💀┃acolyte

[charred ridge]

it has a line that says like "35% of your leech converts to damage, affected by frenzy effect"

if you stack frenzy effect you can get to like

200% of your leech converts to damage?

and you can use "22% of melee damage is converted to leech" t7 affixes on each one of your weapons

and in some other places

so basically anytime you do damage you can leech like over 2x that amount, and convert that into 4x the damage to a nearby enemy

[warped coral]

the Fangs?

[charred ridge]

ye

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DtBHrLQzlimGUn6an-pOCVKqZFHzMvIdJ-krF_F0NsM/edit?usp=sharing

[warped coral]

there is prolyl a typo there

[charred ridge]

i have a mockup here

[warped coral]

cuz that line is not there

[charred ridge]

what line

[warped coral]

this?

[charred ridge]

leeching flay at the bottom and there is a planner

[warped coral]

aaaah ok ok i thought you meant % dmg

my bad

[charred ridge]

it's effectively % dmg

just with a weird implementation

and it's not aoe but i doubt that matters

[warped coral]

true

Will look into it

[charred ridge]

but it's really really really glass cannon

[warped coral]

but defences are...soemthing :P

yeah i figured

[charred ridge]

i dont think it's playable at all in maps

but u can maybe figure out a compromise

it'd be cool to see this belt used cus

it's clearly meant for lich

[warped coral]

yeah

especially now that we can dual wield as well

[charred ridge]

oh ye right

you can use aura of decay

to multiply the dmg of my planner by like 2.5

so u can actually get pretty giga dps with it

[silver abyss]

how to toggle defansive and offensive stance for summons? whats the shortcut?

[charred ridge]

i did this before launch so it's not even close to optimized

you could get this on the level of mana stacking flay dmg

just without the defenses

[warped coral]

ye

[astral kettle]

1. Does the 3 point bonus of Effigies which says a "Minion being healed 20% of max HP when another minion dies." proc from Volatile Zombies suiciding?

2. It seems really hard to get resistences on minions. Is the Blessing with +25% minion resistence a must take if I am playing a pure Necromancer minion build?

[warped coral]

And why is this?

[charred ridge]

there's a node at the bottom left (i learned that literally today)

that converts int into pen

at a 1:1 ratio

build has what 158 int

[lost cliff]

anyone willing to vc about my build

[charred ridge]

you get 15% for free

that's 173% phys/cold pen

[warped coral]

ah yeah this

[charred ridge]

yeah

[warped coral]

i was eyeballing it as well since i am not using int fully yet

looked juicy, although you forgo defences on that as well :P

[obtuse quest]

2, it's written on the top left.

[obtuse quest]

To compensate you DO have extra DR against that type's DoT inately by AoD

[charred ridge]

ye it's mostly a meme uber build

[silver abyss]

ok but how do I toggle?

[obtuse quest]

Press 2.

It's really just press 2.

The 2 key is the default bind.

[warped coral]

True

[charred ridge]

but maybe you can do without scornful in the lich tree and at least keep your leech

and you'll have a ton of leech

but you'll also lose quite a bunch of increased dmg, the leech > inc% dmg conversion is worth 700% increased dmg

[silver abyss]

llooool xD it was obvious I dont know why I didnt pay attention to that thanks

[charred ridge]

but the dps will still be pretty overkill so it's fine

[obtuse quest]

I knew that was the misunderstanding lmao

[charred ridge]

it's just ass that the belt has that "more dmg taken" modifier that scales with frenzy to like 165%

it's really hard to build defense after that

[warped coral]

Yeah 33% leech from your calcs is insane high :P

[hollow flint]

imo that belt is pure garbage, never to be used in any build

[charred ridge]

33%?

i think you're looking at chaos bolts

[warped coral]

Yup, i am dumdum

[hollow flint]

and here I am sitting at 100% melee leech

[charred ridge]

you're leeching 3x your dmg so you've got pretty infinite sustain

[warped coral]

And what primordial would you use then if not forgoing defences? the dagger?

[charred ridge]

basically either you get one shot or you are invincible

[warped coral]

:D

[hollow flint]

I use the blossom amulet since im armor capped and phys damage is my friend

[warped coral]

understandable

289% leech, sick.

:D

[charred ridge]

that amulet has no offensive stats therefore it's pure garbage imo, never to be used in any build

😏

[hollow flint]

I just really dislike increased damage taken

[charred ridge]

understandable

[hollow flint]

its probably fine if you offscreen everything

which isnt too easy with a melee build

[warped coral]

Ah yeah t hat blossom was cool defensively

[charred ridge]

understood

[warped coral]

Will try a bit of everything :D

[charred ridge]

stack 4000% aoe

maybe there's a cool fullscreen harvest build somewhere

🤔

[hollow flint]

maybe im just gonna slap that belt on and try how it feels with 200% increased frenzy effect

[charred ridge]

i think you really need to build around it

[warped coral]

thaty is a lot of inc dmg taken :P

[charred ridge]

it'll probably be underwhelming as a filler item

[hollow flint]

well my build is pretty much perfect for it

its just that damn increased damage taken

[charred ridge]

you can always use it as a swap for bossing

use something else in maps

[hollow flint]

thats true. Chill health belt for mapping and this one to nuke bosses in 4 secs with star dial

[charred ridge]

AoD really was the piece of the puzzle i was missing for this build to do great dmg

i wanna try it now

maybe i shouldnt be closing my ears when ppl talk about skills i dont like lol

[hollow flint]

I really dislike AoD how it is now

its mandatory for every single acolyte build

1% pen per int is so damn op

[pallid dawn]

im playing chaos bolt lich, for plague bearer staff what stats im prioritising ? penetration or chance to poison on hit, i got the carrion of creation and all the others items

[charred ridge]

idk about every single one but ya it sounds pretty strong

[grim rune]

lovely

[sweet spade]

skill issue /s

[grim rune]

fear from bolts

sometimes fks the position of uber

[obtuse quest]

Went from doing jackall to “best res deleter”

[obtuse quest]

Fear casuing position shifts is basically it’s downside

[grim rune]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AK21mRGo
still no damage for uber sadly

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (73) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,254, Regen: 18.6/s
▸ Mana: 1,155.32, Regen: 18.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 105%, Regen: 6/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 4 Dex / 47 Int / 6 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 53% / 83% / 108% / 76% / 62% / 73% / 33%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 50%, Threshold: 812
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (16)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (880)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Marrow Shards / Reaper Form / Harvest / Flay

[dusty onyx]

Yeah, AoD used to be only there to susstain lich decay. Now it completely erase all res

[charred ridge]

there are skills with stronger pen but i guess the nuance is that you're actually shredding with AoD so it's probably crazy in multiplayer

[sweet spade]

ffs the dmg ramp on corruption is so sharp now

[dusty onyx]

don't think you would want it in a warlock though

[obtuse quest]

Yeah it’s just good generic pen if you run that damage type and works for everyone. As long as you’re close enough.

[obtuse quest]

Could technically use aspect of death for extra more damage

[charred ridge]

you can also use the AoD flay thing for bosses

so you dont even have to be close enough

[dusty onyx]

You could but you would have to balance the defense deficit even further. At some point, it even out.

Also, while you can spec into phys, the later part of warlock tree is more geared toward fire/necro

two elements AoD do not support

[sweet spade]

someone help me understand the current amber tech, how does coast generate so much with bags?

[autumn bough]

https://youtu.be/H_wQD7q6wyE uber on warlock, build has 2 bugs now(at least offline) that lowers dmg significantly if you get unlucky but still does uber in 2 min

[charred ridge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BevLkVP3qn0JB2by7bpon_VZUQyjt1dJNlTfcGJ0xHI/

tried to write a guide on imprint farming

it might not be well presented but at least we can link something when somebody needs help crafting their double t7s

[thick whale]

I'm looking for a good weaver tree planner, do you guys have something decent on hand?
is cemetery champion farming still the best practice?

[sweet spade]

Good guide ty

[sweet spade]

Rampaging Coast apparently is bis now

[thick whale]

how do you spec the tree for that?

[sweet spade]

@thick whale boss stuff

No tomb or cemetery

[thick whale]

could you share your planner plis? :3

[sweet spade]

But i haven't personally gotten it working. But I've heard ppl sitting in like 1m amber

[thick whale]

ah ok, so just bufff everything boss relatred?

[worldly birch]

arent there only like 4 boss-related nodes?

[thick whale]

yeah I was just checking, I feel there is more to it

[worldly birch]

and some of them im not sure would even apply to rampant coast

like this one, based on how it's worded i dont think it would work for rampant coast?

[grim rune]

How annoying is doing egg while mapping

[worldly birch]

if it did work that could potentially be good, but since the loot all drops at the end im not sure if it actually accounts for how many bosses you killed rather than just always the same

[grim rune]

i again died cause somethign 1shot me offscreen when i choose item for nemesis

[charred ridge]

lfg pause button

[worldly birch]

yes that's very annoying especially on lich lol

it was much less a problem for me last season on vk es

[thick whale]

@charred ridge do you have any tips for the weaver tree this season?

[sweet spade]

I think there may be a bug atm whereby rampaging coast appears from imprints more often than it should

The rarity is meant to be related to cost, but it's definitely appearing a lot more than nemesis or trove

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/7lPO3WI0Ow

[charred ridge]

not really no

[grim rune]

lmao

i think im crit capped for bosses now

crit multi is so useless before u cap crit lol

[hollow flint]

and fire res capped too! so nice

[grim rune]

XD

dunno i have like 6 lp2 jurlas

opsie

[gentle wraith]

Is infernal shade better than bone curse for abom necro?

[autumn bough]

you use both

infernal shade snapshots so u put it and unspec

overall bone curse is way more important

[dusty onyx]

Okay I finally made the spine work

just require an insane amount of investment

[gentle wraith]

thanks for the reply. so level 9+ infernal shade is good enough if i have to unspec?

[autumn bough]

ye you need only few points for it

same for bone curse

[autumn bough]

share

did they change much

i forgot the patchnotes 🤔

[hollow flint]

which approach did you use? melee leech to universal damage for acid skin?

[dusty onyx]

Still leveling them

[obtuse quest]

The 2h sword spine? I thought people just do perma-stun flame whip with that.

[dusty onyx]

but basically, infernal shade does all the damage. The fissure can be tripled. Zombie spawn more shades. The place is just there to reduce the cooldown on the Profane vale

[hollow flint]

good news is my belt got 2 LP, bad news is it rolled 13% increased damage taken. I have 150ish increased frenzy effect, which means 32% increased damage taken

[dusty onyx]

you still perma whipe since you have the profane orbs that is really spammy when you are inside the veil

the build requires x2 +30% duration on profane veil to beconfortable

[obtuse quest]

Doesn't the stun setup basically shoehorn your damage in already (Via massive amounts of ignite chance)

[dusty onyx]

don't need. only need 25 to get the overload trigger

most of the damage are flat

I mean on hit

[obtuse quest]

I'm talking about this though.

[dusty onyx]

Calamity give like 150 ignite % on fire skills

idk if it works for that node though

That one

[obtuse quest]

This is dr3ad's setup for it last season for refrence, which perma stunned uber:

[hollow flint]

kinda sad that its before conversions so the new bleed gloves cant be used with it

[obtuse quest]

But it DOES still scale following conversions.

SO if you're physical fissure it will use any bleed chance

(But it doesn't cover the "Ignite is turned into bleed chance" inside the convert node)

[hollow flint]

yeah thats what I meant, you cant do 1000% bleed chance by converting different things and then have 500 spell damage

[obtuse quest]

Item converts maybe work

[rough flicker]

How do you get so many of the 1x1 mana minor weaver idols? I do not think I have even gotten one

[slim niche]

Calamity does not work for Fissure of Wrath

and bleed conversions wont work either

I am playing whiplock currently, sitting at 575% ignite chance, and I am definetly not permastunning uberabby

[obtuse quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkBb2pWsv8
There's one video where it gets stunned enough that it ignores a good chunk of attacks

[tepid junco]

is there any mana threshold for flay mana stacker?

[slim niche]

Kzb yes and that is quite far from permastunned

[obtuse quest]

True, but It does stun it enoguh to make the fight not a screen clutter, so I think that works pertty well.

[slim niche]

yea

and it's very comfy to play with a controller 🙂

[hollow flint]

why dont you go bleed fissure with the new AoD node for phys pen? Shouldnt that be a lot stronger now?

[slim niche]

IMO one of the more interesting options to develop whiplock is to go --> mixlife, and get T8 spirit release speed on chest, this will make you whip a lot more (t7 70%, t8 105%), and change relic to Uhkeiros to generate mana, and then go mental with leech 🙂

[grim rune]

oh so the bug affects uber damage too

that's why i got hit for 92k

[jagged marten]

Minor weaver idol prophecies, slap the minor lagonian idol lense to target them

[thick whale]

can i drop STR items on acolyte?
I never had this issue before so IDK

[hexed ivy]

Whats AoD? 🤔 On LE Tools i only find it somewhere at the very end of the warlock tree 'aspect of death' which doesn't read anything about pen?

[rough flicker]

Will that do weaver ones?

[half kelp]

time to jump back in

how are we feelin bout new lich

and necro

[dusty onyx]

Wildfire amulet give ton of ignite

[drifting idol]

can a dot low HP build be done without reaper form?

[old hull]

Aura of Decay, the Lich 15-ish point skill

[obtuse quest]

You'll probably do it in Warlock then? Since you don't need Lich's things.

[drifting idol]

mostly i want to do the low HP thing

[drifting idol]

smth like this

i just think that reaper form is going to drop too fast when i am low HP and doing too much % missing health is hard to manage with the form

[jagged marten]

seems to help them show up more for whatever reason

[half kelp]

@obtuse quest

[obtuse quest]

Pretty decent

[half kelp]

better than old?

[obtuse quest]

Yeah

Even AoD is useful now

[half kelp]

hell yeah

downloading the new season patch now

[astral kettle]

I can only cap 1 resistance on my minions. Which should I choose? I'll be using skeletons, golem, wraiths and Abomination.

[lost gale]

physical is the most common damage type, poison the least important

but really it won't matter all that much

[astral kettle]

Why won't it matter?

[lost gale]

minion HP is much more significant and you kind of expect skeletons & wraiths to die sometimes

if you're having issues get more minion hp, dps & leech

[chilly sun]

i see people move in a different direction than their mouse, what control format is that?

[lost gale]

WASD is an option

top of the first page in settings

[chilly sun]

wouldnt using abilities be a bit awkward with WASD?

[half kelp]

you can map all abilities to mouse if you wish

[chilly sun]

ah

i see

[half kelp]

just a matter of preference

[thick whale]

Not too bad :3

[astral kettle]

I have the 674 %HP on warrior skeleton, 599% hp on rogue skeleton and 699% hp on wraiths.
For leech I have:
All minions 30% increase minion leech rate, 6% leech, 15% crit leech
Wraith = 6% crit leech, 15% necrotic leech
Skeletons = 4% leech

I also have 40% all minions resistance and 1291 all minion armor.

Do I need to invest in threat generation for golems if I already have 60% threat generation on abomination?

[worthy arch]

@drifting idol in doing a low hp ward generation dot build right now. Granted im only level 30 but I one shot everything, tank everything. I've tried to die on boss mechanics, sit in everything pull extra mobs etc but I dont die.

[hexed ivy]

Ahhh okay, thanks. ^^ makes more sense now.

[worthy arch]

But im also only level 30 lol. Regardless super fun.

I pulled the ancient boss spawn, experiment guy and some other mini boss you can spawn and just sat in all their damage and they never broke my ward.

[lost gale]

tbh just that 6% leech for all minions should keep them alive decently enough

sounds like you have it covered

[astral kettle]

Have I over invested in leech? My minions cannot be crit but they can be stunned.

[lost gale]

you might be overinvesting in minion defensive stats over DPS stats, but you'll know if that becomes an issue as you progress

I say might your build could have more than enough damage

dead enemies deal 0dps so sometimes you can end up worse off

by not having enough DPS and overindexing on defensive layers

[drifting idol]

Lv 30 is easy mode tho

Do it with Corruption 300+ monolith

[worthy arch]

Yeah exactly why im saying no clue how it will do later on

Probably won't work, maybe it will idk

But its fun at low levels lol

[drifting idol]

For me i am a casual gamer

So if you can beat normal abberroth then its a functional build

[abstract summit]

These snitches man...

[rancid stirrup]

Hey guys. can you please help me to understand how to control decay in Lich form? Is it health decay % vs health regen %? While in battle i'm staying in form without any problems due to health lich, but after it decay is quite fast

[naive nimbus]

health decay in lich form is a flat amount that ramps up over time. your health regen is disbaled so the only way to sustain it is through active healing/leech

[abstract summit]

100% reduced non mono events but ye

[rancid stirrup]

thanks, so Aura of Decay can help with it using healing and i need to find some other sources

[obtuse quest]

Reaper form disable health regen. So healing and leech are the core ways to deal with t.

[rancid stirrup]

Got it, thanks

[obtuse quest]

(Leech is something you do naturally as a Lich since it's also a mastery passive, go do more damage!)

[astral kettle]

Physical Damage = +16 all minions, 480% increased,
Necrotic = +10 All minions, 592% Increased

Skeleton warrior = 48% more
Skeleton rogue = 75% more, 48% more
Golem = 50% more
Wraith = +20 Necrotic, 60% more necrotic
Abomination (Necrotic) = 32% more, 4% more per skeleton warrior.

[lost gale]

are you just making an abom from all your minion types?

[astral kettle]

Yea and then micro abuse to have it not consume them 😅

[lost gale]

how?

[astral kettle]

I have no idea. I have heard of it but don't know how to do it lol

I also have 52% necrotic penetration if that counts

[lost gale]

well I'd say just go push corruption and if you grind to a halt tweak things

but it all sounds alright from where I'm standing

[astral kettle]

One last question. Is threat generation on golem needed if I already have 60% threat generation on abomination?

[lost gale]

I have no idea how threat generation actually works and I wouldn't depend on it to keep you alive in the first place

[astral kettle]

haha ok. Thanks ^^

[heady cargo]

I'm dying quite often in 100 corruption monos with the roid mage build on maxroll. Is there a better minion build for pushing into monos or is there some item I should be grinding for that would make me way more beefy? Already have a boneclamour (though no LP) and I thought that was what was needed to get enough ward to survive

[pearl snow]

Survival is a mix of resists, HP pool (so max hp and ward gen), crit reduction / avoidance. And then anything else you can do to help mitigate i.e Block, Dodge, Parry

Necro usually does blocking on top of its basic defense

Boneclamour by itself doesn’t mean you can just face tank things

[ashen quest]

Question new primal treatment is awesome I'm.sad I can't have multiple primals lol

The purple T8 primal affection can it be used with a unique primal in sanctuary dungeon

[green coral]

no

[ashen quest]

Can I take primal affix off purple and slam a unique ?

If not guess I'm just forever farming my trex for lp upgrades lol

[green coral]

hp to ward experimental affix on gloves, upgrade bases for higher armour, idols for ward. summoners in general shouldnt be worried about survival if you let minions facetank

[obtuse quest]

They only exist as sealed affixes , so no.

[green coral]

thats kinda it yes

[ashen quest]

Ok thanks team! Apreciate that I'm a SSF player

[green coral]

personally after obtaining 1 lp +3 dino i invested bones into amber sashes

[ashen quest]

Woulda been cool to have a whack of primal gear but me and Rex besties

[green coral]

yeah t rex kinda too good to pass

even if some t8's are awesome

[obtuse totem]

i wiish t8s could be slammed

[ashen quest]

Me too

When I make abomination he eats bees and trex does it give him more hp or dmg.or

[hollow flint]

I like it that they dont. This way you dont have only all legendary builds

[green coral]

they even disabled that t8 cant be worn as long as you have primodial unique

otherwise you could farm dino woven echo for t8 minion dmg + minions teleport on traveral ring

[obtuse totem]

i dont mind one t8/one primordial

[green coral]

and it would blow any lp2 unique ring out of the water anyway, but cant wear that and primo unique both

[obtuse totem]

but i wish we could t8slam as that

[green coral]

would be cool at least

[obtuse totem]

would open up cool ideas

[green coral]

but nope, not possible sadly

[obtuse totem]

i mean one combined

not both

[green coral]

ah yeah

[obtuse totem]

both a t8 and prim would be broken

[hollow flint]

Naa, it would just be a powercreep

[green coral]

now chase is usual lp push instead of interacting with league lol

boss farm into turtle woven lp gamble gets boring after 2 leagues tbh

[hollow flint]

Well the league gives bones which gives weaver points, so its at least something

[green coral]

yeah thats what i used my bones for after getting lp1 primo

[hollow flint]

You mean lp2 primal

[green coral]

funny enough for me grinding evolutions end is ... im 98 with 1lp +1 instead of +2 evolutions end amulet lol

[green coral]

for real grindera sure 😅

[hollow flint]

My first and only one was 2 lp

[green coral]

lol

[hollow flint]

But its the belt which has reasonable LP level

[green coral]

i bought like 15 dino skulls and ended with like 5 lp1 +3 rolls which is decent

then just went for amber sashes

im still salty t rex is too good for abomination while theres such an juicy primordial low life chest 😭

maybe you could use chest instead of t rex pre red rings and clever solution stat stacking for abo since its damage is so high anyway

but with stat stacking dino for abo is absurd

[earnest lichen]

Stat stacking with trex is so goooood

[heady cargo]

Yeah, I'm generally okay except that many champions leap to me and then do a quick attack. Most of the time I can survive it, but many times I end up dying if there's other stuff on the screen and I'm not at full ward+hp to tank that hit.

[hollow flint]

Just pay it back equally by going flay and jumping them

[green coral]

some mobs have overtuned damage scaling rn so no matter what you do you get one tapped, apparently patch to fix coming this week

for high corrupt i recommend defensive minion ai + spamming attack command manualy so your summon/summons stay in front most of the time, esp if you are playing singular minion like abo it helps a lot

[slim niche]

patch just dropped

[green coral]

Assemble Abomination: Assemble Abomination will now only absorb minions it specifies in its tree.

oh wow lol

rip t rex 😅😅

good reason to play poe2 season then come back for new toon, for me personally

[obtuse totem]

wait theres a patch?

[green coral]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-hotfix-1-3-1-notes/79240

[obtuse totem]

ooh ty sir

[obtuse quest]

Finally, it can't eat trexes

[unreal hill]

we cookin

[abstract summit]

Zero marrowshard changes or im blind

[green coral]

abomination is ded now without t rex lol

at least for high corrupt

and uber

[unreal hill]

marrowshard got a text clarification update.

[obtuse quest]

Why would you want it to eat the trex? Health?

[abstract summit]

Lmao

[green coral]

if you stacked endurance or stats it gave phys pen (per endurance) + per int/str gave t rex flat and something too

[obtuse quest]

Which... okay? Abom now doesn't eat the trex and you can use it properly now alongsiode abom

I don't know how making the abom NOT be able to eat the trex changes that

[green coral]

yes but abom got t rex stats from eating it while channeling, then t rex was always there after resummon for roar buffs

[obtuse quest]

The only stats abom would have gotten was health.

Abom ONLY takes health into account.

[green coral]

and phys pen from endurance

[obtuse quest]

It ignores that.

[green coral]

did u try it on training dummies

[obtuse quest]

There is no way EHG did something that stupid, right?

[green coral]

my dmg on dummies skyrocketed when eating t rex

[obtuse quest]

Abom clearly states it should be only taking health into account

Jesus

Yay bug fix I guess

[astral kettle]

If my minion has physical damage by default and I have a passive node that give +10 necrotic damage to minions then does that mean my minion will deal both physical and necrotic damage per hit?

[green coral]

think t rex stats from attributes applied aswell but i cant confirm that

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[green coral]

yes

[astral kettle]

Thanks

[obtuse quest]

Wouldn't be pretty normal since abom is supposed to generically just take the health and ignore all their other stats.

[arctic grotto]

Abom gets all minion hp but gets only % damage per minion capped at 20

[green coral]

its kinda weird since bear and t rex eaten abom was quite similar power level

[eternal heath]

i wonder how is this worth 3.5GB

[obtuse quest]

That's not the patch notes

We're in 1.3.1

[eternal heath]

ah tru

[sinful cliff]

actual patch is 7GB 😂

oh, I misunderstood

[eternal heath]

hoooooooly

[sinful cliff]

nvm me

[green coral]

i was surprised seasonal patch was 15gb

[arctic grotto]

Seems im right with minion attacks not triggering rift beasts

[green coral]

last one added so much more compared to this one and was like half the size

[abstract summit]

Bro marrowshard one tapping uber is not even in the known issues

[green coral]

with Evolutions end ?

[arctic grotto]

Yep

[abstract summit]

I guess once again im the stupid one for not abusing it

[arctic grotto]

Had to manually hit the boss gor it to trigger

[eternal heath]

edit: kekwa

[green coral]

i played abom and only thing i casted was bone curse which could maybe trigger from curse itself damage

[abstract summit]

Ye also what is going on with that lmao

[eternal heath]

capital p = priorities

[green coral]

but it did seem to trigger on champions when i didnt cast anything, maybe infernal shade did some ticks and did count as my own damage for evo to trigger

[arctic grotto]

Most hits from the character triggers it but minions alone attacking nope, it wont trigger for some reason

[eternal heath]

fix endgame loop - nonono
add random encounters - yeyeye

[abstract summit]

On the flip side they also didnt fix beast amber farm so there is that

[green coral]

well thats problematic for some summoner builds then

[charred ridge]

there is?

[short arch]

me: Switches to assemble abomination thinks: hmmm this skill kinda bad also me: didn't read skill also me: didn't consume all my minions feels kinda dumb realizes skill is broken now

[abstract summit]

Thank you i do be blind

[green coral]

we gonna be farming 1k corrupt mono bosses for lp items forever and then just facepalm at turtle woven when you toss whole stash and nothing upgrades

kinda boring endgame loop tbh

[eternal heath]

me: trying out runebolt
also me: 😢

[short arch]

this think is critting for 40k damage and Im level 65 with meh items

[green coral]

pro tip: summon skele warriors on one side and others behind you, and start summonong abo on warriors so they have time to auto respawn via passives in summon skele and tree

[arctic grotto]

1.5k corr still manageable for me with abom build, 1.8k corr however everyone 1 shots me even with res above 120% 100% crit reduction and 8k armor yikes

[short arch]

I don't even have good uniques yet XD

[abstract summit]

Well the actual real endgame loop is running 20 follies followed by 20 troves
Which is still half boring cause folly is bad, at least troves are fun

[lofty lodge]

bro why is flay so slow with the beeeing cast note

[green coral]

i pushed only 1.5k aswell with fairly decent defences but bugged 1 shots made me stop pushing

[short arch]

did feel nice to get LP1 on my first dino snag tho ❤️

[green coral]

its only as many defences you can put into a build lol

[arctic grotto]

Even when im using 2 red rings and that dmg transfer to high hp minion yep im still getting rekt with piercing projectiles in the back

[pearl snow]

You mean turning it into a spell? Because if so there is an attack speed less mod somewhere in the tree too and that would impact speed by alot. I think its in the bleed nodes and the mana reduction node

[short arch]

I need more points into the damage transfer passive myself Im starting to feel the hurt in low level monos

[green coral]

yeah i did red rings + cleaver aswell but skipped the ox unique armour for bigger ward pool, nontheless 100% block with 4k effectiveness, 8k ward and 2 red rings, still sometimes got onetapped by those normal fire lizards in kings stash woven echo 😅😅

[arctic grotto]

Damn man, what more can we do lol

[green coral]

yeah thats essentially everything possible besides higher ward pool

but that doesnt save us from 20000k hits on death log

20k*

[short arch]

do you guys have any recommendations for uniques other than blood of the exile for stacking vitality, int, and strength? trying to get my dino nice and stronk

[green coral]

cleaver solution axe

and later farm red rings if ur cof

[short arch]

okie tyvm

[arctic grotto]

Just put T7 Strength in your unis and ur good usually

[ashen quest]

Now abomination no longer eats bees and trex boooo

[green coral]

ye stack exalted str with axe and ur good

[arctic grotto]

I recommend the helm from antipode rift drop, gives 12 strength, 400 armor and up to 60% crit dmg reduction, casts glacier tho when u evade which is big mana eater

[green coral]

^ its amazing

and not that hard to farm 2 lp

echo from woven wendor is only like 800 amber

i personally after getting t rex 1lp relic just bought amber bags from new league vendor

[arctic grotto]

I have yet to hit the jackpot with 3 minion skill trex relic

[green coral]

i think glacier mana sink is only noticeable if you dont run last steps of the living with t7 ms otherwise you dont press evade that often

[green coral]

from my data i had 5 lp1 +3s out of 15 t rex relics which is quite fair lol

or very lucky

since we dont really need 2 lp skull, unless you hit % endurance with that somehow

[arctic grotto]

I bought the bloody glacier effect for that lich king looking helm, totally worth it 😂

[green coral]

lmaoo

altho maybe 2 lp skull with minion hp would be nice, at 1.5 corrupt i had to sometimes unallocate aboms +cdr but 5% hp lost on ability node so he wouldnt just die

[arctic grotto]

Rule of cool, edgy frozone lookin ah

[slim niche]

change in difficulty is very noticeable, back to farming corruption 1200 monos 🙂

[green coral]

i tried going full on 6% leech node on abom from passive but that didnt help much when you have 4x good cdr roll large idols

he just dies 😅

[arctic grotto]

Yeah that cooldown node could suddenly kill my abom for having double strike, arrow, poison aura and skelly mage missiles

[green coral]

even with two skills he seems to spam it like no tomorrow with 100% cdr from idols

its more of early game node imo

nice bandaid before you get minion cdr

[arctic grotto]

Yep, even sacrficing minions constantly to keep its hp afloat abom can suddenly burst itself to death

[green coral]

his leech seems to be so random too

[arctic grotto]

Im wondering if sacrifice + abom would be a nice build

[green coral]

one would assume if abo hits trash mobs for 2 mil he would top up from 6% leech

[arctic grotto]

Just wondering how effective those blood revenants are

[green coral]

but 😅

[green coral]

sounds cool on paper

[arctic grotto]

Have to choose between infernal shade massive atk speed buff or sacrifice

[green coral]

i liked shade for autopilot vibes

[rapid bobcat]

Just hit 70, have most of the gear reqs for harvest flay. Should i continue to farm, or just make the swap? Im worried ill not be as strong, infernal shade hits like a truck rn.

[arctic grotto]

I mean its abom casting sacrifice instead of consuming minions, but it takes your mana instead i think, could get the node in skellys where if skelly dies u get mana

[thick whale]

Is there a chance to buy them with 1 LP or how do I get 1 LP on it?

[arctic grotto]

Nemesis my good sir

[green coral]

better safe than sorry, altho flay bugs with not being able to "teleport" seems to be fixed after patch

[green coral]

theres also ward on skelly death

[rapid bobcat]

Im not in empowered monos yet, I ran the whole campaign this round since i havent played pretty much since launch. I guess ill just keep farming and work towards my CoF and empowered monos with harvest loot filter

[thick whale]

So no chance to buy it with LP?

[green coral]

from what i heard lich gameplay is love it or hate it, best to just have stashed up 2nd set and gold for another respec if you brick yourself

[rapid bobcat]

Stick em in eggs

[arctic grotto]

Always a chance but could be low

[green coral]

you can get it with lp from vendor, just luck

[arctic grotto]

Not to mention could give you only 2 minion skills instead of 3

[green coral]

not sure if +lp passives from weaver tree or cof affect bought uniques

[rapid bobcat]

respec is kinda expensive lol, Idk how to farm gold efficiently on CoF? I think i have like 350k

[thick whale]

Can i drop this relic? Afaik is vendor only right?

[green coral]

thats good enough for 2 respecs no? for gold you just ramp corruption and it naturally gives more gold, or weaver tree opted for gold if ur desperate but imo its not worth the points

[green coral]

vendor only

[arctic grotto]

Vendor seems to be the only way, can be improved with Nemesis egg or you can take ur chance with turtle or rerolls

[rapid bobcat]

Might be, ill double check, i thought it was around 250k. Nah im rushing the printers (or whatever you wanna call em)on weaver tree

[green coral]

nemesis then stash it for rerolls if it bricks and gives unwanted stat, you can use it as a reroll for 1 lp tyra skull in woven echo to fish for +3 roll

[green coral]

yes printers are always best to be rushed 👍

[rapid bobcat]

TY for the advice

[green coral]

np

[arctic grotto]

The printer for the jewelry or weapon seems to drop most for me when farming echoes

Its raining 2 T7s rings for me, affixes are too random tho

[abstract summit]

Affixes are random

On the t7s

[green coral]

honestly all printers fit nicely into gameplay loop unless ur bossing for lp uniques

took me way too long to find island chests woven echo to imprint 😡 had to hit 95lvl with maxed woven echo drops passives lol

early game event horizon echo op to zerg rush high corruption

[craggy flax]

some of us have tried it
Abom animation to cast Sacrifice is slow and is spamming it with skellie revives so Abom is always behind you
it also randomly Sac's itself

[arctic grotto]

Yikes, damn shame

[vapid belfry]

did they fix the flay/rip blood/marrow bug?

[charred ridge]

nope

[real turret]

I did Ctrl+f 'marrow' and got 1/1 results when checking notes

Then it was just some bs

[thick whale]

Uyeeeeeahhh

[vapid belfry]

does it also apply to the volatile zombies that harvest spawns?

[pearl snow]

If you are struggling with gold you either gotta do more gold echoes or just grab those few point nodes by the start of the weaver tree I think its directly south of the start

[rapid bobcat]

ty, im not struggling yet

But i appreciate the advice, ill continue to just grind out echos

[abstract summit]

saaaameeeee duuudeeeee 😄

i guess it is intended lol

[median pebble]

is anyone playing lich pure flay, without harvest?

[pearl snow]

Lich flay is the main dmg dealer?

[median pebble]

yeah

[pearl snow]

Like flay*

I doubt purely on hit dmg is being played

DoT has some potential but most of your dmg isnt from it’s DoT stacks

If you wanted pure on hit you could do necrotic dmg and try that

[median pebble]

sad, was hoping to get inspiration from people in high corruption

i am clearing 300+

aberoth down

I am scaling damage through mourningfrost boots

but having issues to decide what to slam as getting enough cold and phys resistances is getting very hard

[abstract summit]

pure flay is basically non existent

it's whole design is about being a hybrid skill

[median pebble]

pure flay as in not using it to buff harvest or proc c-bolts

mourningfrost is used specifically to scale both melee and spell parts of flay at the same time

[abstract summit]

i understood what you wrote, and to that I was replying that it's kind of an exercise in futility trying to scale it that way 🙂

[vapid belfry]

for anyone playing mana flay do you find you get stuck on uber abb sometimes

[median pebble]

not sure I agree, though I do doubt I can kill uberoth, aberoth is an easy fight which makes it viable(?)

[vapid belfry]

like you physically get stuck

[abstract summit]

everything is viable in this game more or less. you asked about people running flay in high corruption

[pearl snow]

I agree that anything that can do 300-500 cr is a viable build

[hollow flint]

I play pure flay

[pearl snow]

Pure flay may get more output from being necrotic instead of cold though. Mainly because you can shred necrotic and have higher tier added necrotic on weapons and lich has flat on the tree

[hollow flint]

necrotic is a lot worse than cold or phys

[median pebble]

cold is better

[abstract summit]

for melee cold is def the play ye. necrotic is for spell

[median pebble]

all the shred can be cold too i believe(?)

[hollow flint]

AoD only allows for phys or cold

its not even a question

[pearl snow]

I forget if aod shreds cold but the curse from Flay is sick on cold

So that makes sense

[median pebble]

plus without mourningfrost there is no point in even trying to make it work

[hollow flint]

I dont play mourningfrost

you get 2 damage per dex anyway

and the boots are 13 * 6 damage

there is no need for extra flat damage

[median pebble]

yeah, but if you run those new boots why not run harvest aswel?

[abstract summit]

boots gives half the upside with zero of the downside of mourning basically

[hollow flint]

why would you run harvest?

[abstract summit]

to double your damage 😄

[hollow flint]

1 button > 2 buttons

[abstract summit]

proc it 3 times from 3 CBs, it already doubles your damage

[median pebble]

hey, if you kill uberoth with oure flay, please let me know

I dont really see how to do it and if noone else has i will probably switch

[smoky stratus]

The patch just now nerfed the abom build. Can anyone help with one that doesn't use the dino

[median pebble]

I guess you could try mana stack flay without c-bolts? to get more damage, but what is the point in that?

[abstract summit]

FYI even with the harvest procs the numbers look okay to be able to kill but it's not a 1 minute kill, actively need to play the fight

ye if you actively mana stack that's all your damage, you gotta trigger cbolts

[heady cargo]

Is there any way to tell if the Revolution buff from the chaos bolts tree is actually active? I don't seem to see it in my buffs at the top of the screen ever

[median pebble]

I guess stygian lich is still the best build?

[abstract summit]

no

[median pebble]

was it nerfed?

[abstract summit]

mana stacking cbolt flay is big damage

uhm some people are saying there might be bugs, but flay overperforms it anyway afaik

might be wrong tho, but seen 20-40M numbers for coal, flay can do 80-100M

[median pebble]

thank you for information, last patch my stygian lich was enough to make uber fight a breeze

if flay outperforms that, numbers must be great

[abstract summit]

oh ye damage above 20-30M is basically just for fun 😄

[median pebble]

to make yourself immortal

[abstract summit]

we have 40s-1m uber kills on it

[median pebble]

that is the best feeling, to be able to sacrifice damage to make yourself tanky and still shred the game

[abstract summit]

we kinda went the other way around, at least for uber 🙂 for mapping ye we go way more defensive

[median pebble]

do you use the new axe?

[smoky stratus]

Might go in that direction. Dmg really took a hit

[median pebble]

executioners tithe

[abstract summit]

ye it's a must have

enables the whole thing

[median pebble]

cool, the axe looks like a really cool and well designed unique

[abstract summit]

ye 48% increased mana on a mana stacker... and it solves your otherwise really bad mana sustain as well
and then flat crit

the off hand slot is debatable but the axe is a staple

[median pebble]

how much attack speed do you aim for? like is it a priority on weapon slams?

or crit multi is still king?

[abstract summit]

with CB build we go necrotic because of the existence of the shared necro melee + spell affix, so that's prio1

after that atk speed and crit multi ye, ofc after mana wherever you can slam it (outside of weapons)

[median pebble]

makes sense

does flay skill node that gives you flat spell dam from flat melee is global spell power or local (just for flay blood explosions)?

[abstract summit]

just for blood explo so that's useless

[median pebble]

sad

[vapid belfry]

is it, i thought the maths showed that a t8 necro rune dagger was bis?

[abstract summit]

kinda

not in the "maxroll way" tho

[vapid belfry]

what are the other options then? TT with lp3 and t7 necro

[median pebble]

thank you for the help I will go try to make cbolt flay build and comeback when I get stuck 😄

[abstract summit]

3 LP TT and reliquary, or T8 rune dagger + shattered world + keeping julra rings

specifically only talking about uber setup you dont care about damage when mapping lol

and tbf all three are so close that you gonna be one tapping uber with either of them, so go with whichever you have the best pieces for

[vapid belfry]

when you get SW what do you replace the haste node in flay with again?

is it just another point in bloodsoaked blade and go for the throat?

[abstract summit]

Tbh whatever

Cb procs, dagger atk speed, deadly ploy, frost curse and reap cd reduction are all you rly need

[thick whale]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe3Vjyxo

Am I good for uber abby?

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (25) / Necromancer (75) / Lich (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,636, Regen: 42.01/s
▸ Mana: 201.99, Regen: 10.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 278%, Regen: 82/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 15 Dex / 94 Int / 22 Att / 36 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 78% / 78% / 150% / 94% / 114% / 134%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 527
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (126)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,340)
▸ Block Chance: 108%, Mitigation: 46% (1,702)

Used skills:

Assemble Abomination / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade / Aura Of Decay / Summon Skeleton

[radiant vessel]

only one way to find out

go get em champ

[median pebble]

do chaos bolt from flay benefit from chaos bolt skill tree?

[thick whale]

I aksed cause i get wrecked xD

[old hull]

Yes

[median pebble]

so for cb flay you would use flay, cb, reaper form, death seal and AoD?

[grim rune]

Draal Lava Carriers are now less accurate with their Lava Breath, which now has less base damage, but slowly scales over the duration of the attack to its current damage value.
gods finally

[opaque schooner]

damn. harbringers in brink still demolishing me at 520 corruption, don't really understand how i'm getting hit for 5k through reaper

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe3Vjyxo

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (25) / Necromancer (75) / Lich (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,636, Regen: 42.01/s
▸ Mana: 201.99, Regen: 10.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 278%, Regen: 82/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 15 Dex / 94 Int / 22 Att / 36 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 78% / 78% / 150% / 94% / 114% / 134%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 527
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (126)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,340)
▸ Block Chance: 108%, Mitigation: 46% (1,702)

Used skills:

Assemble Abomination / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade / Aura Of Decay / Summon Skeleton

[opaque schooner]

sorry wrong link

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkGZg6wQ

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 92

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (75) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,079, Regen: 18.88/s
▸ Mana: 1,226.92, Regen: 12.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 172%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 6 Dex / 86 Int / 8 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 76% / 86% / 85% / 82% / 81% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 70%, Threshold: 790
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,280)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Flay / Chaos Bolts / Marrow Shards / Harvest

[opaque schooner]

yeah idk what to do with this

[lime mural]

still no fix for the abomination not leeching when critting?

[grim rune]

@abstract summit

12 mana, 2 skills

[hollow flint]

time for a blossom and some armor

[unreal hill]

I love blossom it's my new favorite unique

[hollow flint]

yeah, blossom, armor stack and phys AoD makes you pretty much immortal

I just need to find a damn blossom

[unreal hill]

I just wish my blossom rolled lp at the nem

[hollow flint]

its a lot better than no blossom

im currently doing the opposite with fangs of the berserker

[unreal hill]

my immortal vise got LP tho and I slammed that mf

[hollow flint]

32% increased damage taken from it

oh those gloves are nice

[unreal hill]

oh wait, zero do I know you from the rimworld discord?

I painted over your pfp.
Not sure if it was you or someone else w/ the same pfp tho.

[hollow flint]

I played a lot of rimworld, but I dont think I have been active in its discord

[unreal hill]

hold on Imma ping you in off topic you're gonna love it.

[grim rune]

jezzz

[fathom otter]

@autumn bough is the primordial affix so much more worth to use that we sacrifice rings to scale crit chance instead of using just traitors tongue?

[grim rune]

it's for aspirational setup prolly

u wont cap crit that easly so most of people use tongue

[autumn bough]

its not just primordial affix its also rune dagger base

big difference

also crit isnt an issue cause you also go uber relic later

in theory nobozors mana variant is more dmg on full endgame gear with 4k+ mana, but imo dagger is better if you want more tankiness

[grim rune]

this base is so hard to roll

[autumn bough]

pray rngsus to envi glyphs 🙏

[grim rune]

so close yet so far

[autumn bough]

also the other setup isnt much better cause the only viable alternative is TT+idol relic

and good luck getting full inventory of mana idols well rolled

[grim rune]

tbh it's easier to roll rune dagger than idols + good relic

[autumn bough]

ye dagger is playable with t8+t5 cri multi +t1 armor shred

thats already 90% of dagger potential

also rings are really nice for 8% mana

OP

[white oracle]

I've been putting the 8% rings into Weaver tree for LP.
Got a 2 and 1 off one champ already

[grim rune]

which nihilis would u go ?

12% mana juicy but losing crit + shred 🙁

[fathom otter]

was just wondering on the rings since in volcas guide they are there for crit

i wanted to make cold flay work but seems meh, atleast as a main dps-skill i was so sure it would be good with mourningfrost

[plucky plover]

geez, flay lich hits like an airplane at max throttle

[acoustic fable]

@autumn bough let me look look your planner 😁

[plucky plover]

Took less than half time to clear campaign than my average other char

[acoustic fable]

So you are saying for bosses the DMG still not enough? I'm expecting 2-3mins for uber which I will find out online maybe a month later

😂

[fathom otter]

captainnoobzor has sub 1min uber aberroth on youtube

and misha has like 1min kill or smth

[acoustic fable]

We talking about different builds

[abstract summit]

neither is an option? 😄

how many armour shred stacks you ahve on bosses with that 20%?

i would strongly recomend running an eternal gloves with shred before you get giga juice to alleviate shred pressure

gloves slot is super whatever outside of vise / weaver gloves and eternal is one of the best bases in the game

i get to shred "cap" with that 97%, now you dont need to worry about it on ammy or weapon uniques

[brisk elk]

1.3.1 notes out and do not mention anything related to marrow shards or flay

They did apparently fix the corruption bug thouhh

[plucky plover]

Asking for build advice:
Wanting to try out the new Velocyn's Jaw dagger. What flay build synergizes best with its dexterity bonuses?

[grim rune]

what about these?

[willow current]

whats the endgame stuff for the traitor tongue with primordial relic version of mana flay? i don't know if we use immolators oblivion on that one or not

[grim rune]

for bossing yes

for mapping brewmaster

oh my god

[pallid plume]

Hey what's the new all passives into early mono setup now ?

With mono being higher level hoping into lv62 zone at lv40 feels very rough. So do people just level to 45 or so now before monos to make it smoother ?

[willow current]

got it thank you. are gloves still grasp of blood mage if im using traitors?

[grim rune]

someone suggested these

[grim rune]

^

[willow current]

oh i see got it

thanks

i felt weird doing 2 different versions of mana flay so im kinda trying to pivot to traitors version

[ocean shale]

“Assemble Abomination: Assemble Abomination will now only absorb minions it specifies in its tree.” does this kill abomination build?

[grim rune]

I do 0 fk dmg

[umbral garden]

Still good, lost a bit of damage, but damage is still really high

[grim rune]

jesus christ

[ocean shale]

bro doominated!

been following ur build

how so tho? cause it was consuming the trex as well?

[umbral garden]

I think so, not exactly sure, but I did Uber Aberroth after patch and it lost a little bit compared to my runs before patch

The summoning mechanics are still a bit weird, some snapshotting is still possible as well unfortunately

[grim field]

anyone got a good warlock lowlife build?

[clear kernel]

Ok harvest flay lich is amazing...Probably one of the most fun builds I have ever played in a long time. I am still starting, but I am having fun!

[abstract summit]

if you are already crit capped blood amge is purely a defensive choice. however it is also LP71 so at best you will get it at 2 LP, prob 1, so once again no shred

[grim rune]

Right now I feel like I still don’t have damage on uber

It’s due to no shred? 1.3k mana?

[abstract summit]

which is why im telling you to use an exalt so you can get shred besides mana and attack speed 😄

[grim rune]

What about amulet?

[abstract summit]

nihilis too good

well, a good nihilis

[grim rune]

Here I think evo

?

[abstract summit]

a good nihilis

no T7 mana on ammy is grief ye

the second one can be crit multi

[grim rune]

Time to farm more normal abbies

[abstract summit]

saaaaame dude. grind enver ends

but ye need more mana

[grim rune]

I still have t6 mana on chest …

[abstract summit]

and ofc you dont go into uber with the same passives, you go full glass cannon

and julra rings

(assuming crit cap without needing rings for it)

[willow current]

how do you get exalted eternity gloves with the affixes you want? just imprint a exalted eternity and hope it rolls good?

[abstract summit]

just roll gloves prophecies

base type of imprint can change too

[ocean shale]

how much though

[willow current]

ah got it

so just do exalted gloves prophecies and pray?

[abstract summit]

can hit it with an envy if it's looking good

[grim rune]

With lp1 grasp what would go on them? Mana again or go shred ?

[abstract summit]

ye basically

LP1 always T7 mana

[grim rune]

Where to put shred then

[abstract summit]

on relic chest gloves ammy helm

[grim rune]

I mean ye exalted gloves

[abstract summit]

the gloves 🤣

[grim rune]

Will be nice

Time to farm

[abstract summit]

or weapon suffix but then you need 2-3 LP on it

like a T7 flat T5 shred traitor isnt bad either, optimally it would be T7 flat T5 attack speed T5 shred but that's not easy

[willow current]

there's no rune or glyph that allows me to exalt a affix right?

[grim rune]

Still can’t decide between t8 rune dagger or lp2 traitor + relic

[abstract summit]

i mean, havoc

is basically that

[umbral garden]

I got uber abberoth to 80% health before with no shield before he phased, after patch he had 80% health and 50% shield. But Abom is still insanely strong

[abstract summit]

if you go t8 rune dagger than that one could have the shred as well, but you need it on weapon or gloves imho

[grim rune]

It’s kinda meh

But ye

[abstract summit]

nah that's straight up bad ye 😄

a good t8 is a different story, flat - speed - shred - necro pen now we are talking

[grim rune]

It still skyrocketed my damage compared to some weak t7 traitor

[abstract summit]

i mean it's always going to be better than a traitor, you compare off hand + relic + rings packages against each other

[grim rune]

So much farming I even went full t7 lootfilter

Not even looking at single t6 outside multi t6+t7 lol

[abstract summit]

that's prety common lol

usualyl do it around CoF rank 7-8

then also hide every slot i dont care about

especially with lich aint nobody got time to stop looking at every exalt

[grim rune]

Yep zoom zoom

[brisk elk]

So glad I went MG dawg

Prices have been disgustingly low

1.8 mil for my 2lp nihilis with 12% mana

Anyways I'm gonna try to put together a marrow shards Uber killer for now but then I'll focus on gearing for cb when the bug is fixed

Cb better for mapping anyways

[brisk tiger]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

@prisma ingot I'm answering your message here to avoid being off-topic in the #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs channel:

I'm by no means an authority on what build/skill/ailment is "best" or "worst", but I definitely wouldn't call poison weak, especially on Acolyte - poison overload gives you reliable access to 400% poison pen, and since it's in the left half of the Warlock tree, you can get it as Lich too.

I played a poison Warlock two patches ago and it was really strong, though uber Aberroth wasn't out back then so I couldn't say if my character could have killed him.

I'm playing a poison Lich right now; it's too early to say how good it will be in high corruption, but it's looking very strong so far

[abstract summit]

apparently you got an extra week to do it lol

thanks EHG

[brisk elk]

Yeah

I mean even after they fix marrow we still kill abberoth in under a minute

Just not literally oneshot

I'm curious whether marrow will be worth running though

[abstract summit]

for uber there isnt really anything else so ye, but dont expect miracles

[brisk elk]

Divide the damage it does by 27 and its still a solid amount

[abstract summit]

it's like 5mil a second probably, something like that

[brisk elk]

What is?

Oh just marrow

Yeah

[abstract summit]

actual non bugged mshard

[brisk elk]

That's really solid

And you could also go for pierce and +range for better aoe for mapping

The splinters go quite far

[abstract summit]

oh speccing the f out of it as soon as im done with uber, death seal gang

[brisk elk]

Understandable, I'm not sure yet

We will see

[abstract summit]

it's so good

cant live wo it now 😄

[brisk elk]

I guess the waves of death also have huge aoe

[abstract summit]

extra armor, 4s bone shield when you get out of it. why it's really good imo is because even when you lose reaper for some reason you dont need to stop or be careful, pop seal, continue smashing. it's effectively extra speed

[brisk elk]

Yeah

the waves probably do good damage as well with so much flat necro

[abstract summit]

wouldnt notice lol

it does some shred on the other hand if you spec it for reap/evade

which im spamming all the time

[vestal frigate]

Aight, need some pointers, here's my current build. don't know what uniques I should go for next with what affixes
Currently got a really well rolled lp1 nihilis and idk if I should keep stacking t7 dex or go for crit multi

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Mellisandei/character/Mellivaraa

[ocean shale]

did u change anything in the assemble abo tree for this new patch?

[umbral garden]

No, nothing changed

[dusty onyx]

That's my 3rd 3LP. Any build using this?

[ocean shale]

i did some tests on boss dummy

im doing about 66% of the damage i was before

(havent tried uber yet)

boss dummy in 1min and 30 secs

no red rings still

[brisk elk]

3rd try

lol

[dusty onyx]

That's a crazy belt

[umbral garden]

Good to know. Is a significant nerf then

[brisk elk]

oh this belt is worth like 20 mil

now idk whether to use or sell lol

ill probably keep it for myself

[zinc flower]

Can I get this marrow setup looking good on a budget/new char?

[brisk elk]

yeah

[willow verge]

on market right now

[dusty onyx]

wtf

That shit isn't even worth 50000 😄

[willow verge]

would be good on my lich.

[drifting idol]

is this node playable? it is turning flay into dot right?

[inner robin]

is this a fkn joke? 😂

[arctic gale]

have they fixed the Abomination arrow skill cooldown yet?

[sweet spade]

how's the new patch in terms of damage taken?

[brisk elk]

seems to be fixed

[sweet spade]

mfw if i still get 1 shot 👀

[brisk elk]

i mean

[floral escarp]

Is everyone doing just flay this league? I like fissure

[grim field]

im trying to make a low life ignite warlock but idk if i want the primordial ring or chest for it lol

[floral escarp]

I see

I'm really digging fissure but am unsure of how to keep building it or what uniques I need

[obtuse quest]

That would depend on what exactly you want to do with it

Fissure is like used in every warlock build lmao

[floral escarp]

I see

Idk if I wanna do poison or ignite

[ocean shale]

yeah sadly

[urban dust]

try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rlL-VPdzKA
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un8qCYblIYQ

old style bulletproof solutions

[dusty onyx]

What the best slam between those two boots?

[floral escarp]

Nice thanks

[dusty onyx]

for warlock spiner

Void res is the wort roll by far, but I'm happy with anything else.

life base is slightly worse than hybrid of course

[brisk elk]

I mean do you care about ms

[dusty onyx]

not that much since I'm constantly in shroud

I mean profane

but it's confortable to move across the map

[brisk elk]

I would decide based on whether you want 16 int or 30 ms

Since the other is random

Only 1/3 to get int+ms either way

[dusty onyx]

I'll go with int I guess

not a single bad roll

everything is cool

[grim field]

this is wht i have so far if someone can take a look and dm me fixes https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdOPvRpA

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (29) / Warlock (64)

General:

▸ Health: 1,454, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 176.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 121%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 7 Dex / 37 Int / 7 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 0% / 0% / 10% / 0% / 82% / 16%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 291
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 6% (122)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Soul Feast / Chaos Bolts / Spirit Plague / Infernal Shade

[calm dome]

Good news everyone. I finally capped my resistances

[dusty onyx]

gg/

[versed fox]

Do the costs of items in Bloodhorn's store change?

I swear this thing was going to cost me 30 leaves but now it wants 20 horns

[dusty onyx]

it doesn't

the dude doesn't do sales

[obtuse quest]

So, what’s the plan here? Why is there both torment and witchfire

[versed fox]

wack

I guess I keep misreading then

[brisk elk]

dawg cremorius is not dropping the belt

ive done like a dozen of these

[ocean shale]

@umbral garden bro

the set shield

use that when channeling

my damage is more than before the patch

[grim field]

I didnt know you couldnt do both but plan is a low life ignite build

[brisk elk]

@charred ridge what would you reccomend for uber oneshot gloves

theres no way im getting t7 int and mana on weaver gloves

hand of judgement?

[dusty onyx]

hahaha. Same

[echo yarrow]

Probably those other cast speed gloves for one shot

Could do had of judgement ig

[dusty onyx]

time for mr Harbring to boos those stupid rings

[obtuse quest]

You could, but then both will do less damage compared to a build that focuses on one.

[brisk elk]

can you apply "feared" to uber abberoth?

even if it doesnt do anything

bc fingers gives more dmg to feared enemies

[grim field]

Would it be better to low life torment than

[versed fox]

man I do not remember harbingers spawning in regular monos

I thought these dudes only came out with corruption

[grim field]

Or does witch fire ignite do more dmg for dot?

[brisk elk]

witchfire dmg scales with ignite and damned chance right

[obtuse quest]

Nothing is immune to fear, except mobs that have already been feared once.

[brisk elk]

ok cool so for a oneshot it would be best to use the gloves that give %more dmg to feared and press terrify right before i hit him

?

[obtuse quest]

Basically, but your opening for that boost is like 1-2 seconds.

[pearl snow]

From the passive tree it scales with ignite and damned chance. In general it also scaled with Fire / Necro dmg. Then the relic gives it curse dmg scaling

[brisk elk]

i mean the goal is to use rip blood for 4-5 seconds then onetap

[obtuse quest]

Then you just need to lock in the timing

[brisk elk]

cool ty for help

i also like those gloves because theyre really easy to get with lp

[obtuse quest]

It's more so "What do you want to do" becuase both can do either by building for it.

[grim field]

If i ran ignite witchfire is it pssible to spread like in poe1 if not tomrent would be my other choice

[obtuse quest]

You would rely on the relic to spread it, but technically yes?

[grim field]

Cuz tomrent has built in spread so i think thats more what i wanna go for

[obtuse quest]

it has spread?

[floral escarp]

Man Everytime I get something it's for minions

[dusty onyx]

yipi

Roll on bleed is shit but wtv

He missed the hybrid life sadge

that doggo

[grim field]

yes should be in the tree unless im mistaking it for plague?

[obtuse quest]

The only spread-like I know for torment is this, and it's not even 100%

[grim field]

ya that lol

so if i wanna lean into torment more shall i take off the witchfire parts of the passive and remove ignites?

[obtuse quest]

I wouldn't really call that spreading since it's only 50%, but sure, I guess?

[obtuse quest]

Yeah, since they scale differently.

[grim field]

does torment not scale from damage over time?

is it ok to stack damned+torment?

and instead of infernal shade maybe go into transfusion?

[obtuse quest]

It does, but witchfire's main damage scaling other than damage over time is just more ignite and damned chance.

Meanwhile, torment can use % spell damage.

[tender ridge]

what a thing to get a perfect roll on

couldn't have been like, anything else

[radiant vessel]

25 dodge

[obtuse quest]

It wouldn't do that much extra damage, but you could, sure.

[radiant vessel]

I've gotten 4 belts from random drops and zero in 10 dungeon rune

That weaver node is bis apparently

[grim field]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BMwq7gwA with the changes

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (29) / Warlock (64)

General:

▸ Health: 1,547, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 179.51, Regen: 8.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 127%, Regen: 60/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 7 Dex / 40 Int / 7 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 0% / 0% / 10% / 0% / 82% / 16%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 309
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 7% (171)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Soul Feast / Chaos Bolts / Spirit Plague / Profane Veil

[grim field]

since torment is necrotic that means any +% to necrotic will scale correct?

[tulip turret]

Are wraithlord builds still viable?

[obtuse quest]

Okay, time to actually critize this thing.
What do you MEAN you didn't take the two nodes that skyrocket Torment's damage?
You probably don't need 3 points in the necrotic res shred node since it caps at 10.
No Bone Curse proc in Chaos Bolt? it's effectively 3% more generic damage.
No Int scaling in Spirit Plague?
Do you even need Calamitous? Soul Feast already spreads Spirit Plague better than Spirit Plague itself.

[obtuse quest]

It still works decently, yeah.

[tulip turret]

Stationary or non stationary

[grim field]

but unless im stacking crit multi (which dots do not crit) wouldnt that be useless?

[obtuse quest]

Both.

[tulip turret]

Cool

[obtuse quest]

Correct, but it's a seperate more modifier, if you plan to skyrocket Torment's damage, this is a node you use and build around, since Torment has a max stack of 1.

[grim field]

i thought i grabed the dmg per necro res lol

[pearl snow]

Torment does a lot of dmg from added crit multi. technically you could try double dipping if you were doing poison or bleed with Salt The Wound Gloves but thats a whole nother ailment and dmg type so meh

[grim field]

moved points around and now have this

[proud marsh]

Hello

[grim field]

im using plague has my main clear with bolts+fissure for more bosses or the tough minis

also trying to setup chaos bolts for some sustain

[obtuse quest]

My comments on plague still apply. No better Int scaling? Taking the node to spread more with more mana cost even though Soul Feast does that for you?

[grim field]

how many targets can feast spread it to?

[obtuse quest]

3 per enemy hit, per hit of soul feast.

[grim field]

so combined with the node from plague thats 6?

[obtuse quest]

It ignores the plague node. The plague node only affects itself.

[grim field]

o see i thought it combined lol

[abstract summit]

or bloodmage if you are not crit capped
or just a simple exalted glove with mana + atk speed + shred. then you dont need to worry about shred on weapons
gloves doesnt give you much before vise if you dont have a giga weaver

[autumn bough]

check dms lol

[acoustic fable]

DMS?

[brisk elk]

not attack speed for oneshot

would be int

but yeah i can get those three stats on unique gloves easily

bloodmage is harder

[abstract summit]

fairly sure atk speed is still better than int but ye int is also not bad

[autumn bough]

private messeges

[dusty onyx]

wtf I don't even remember crafting this

things spawn in my tabs

[abstract summit]

ye personally dont think bloodmage is the way to go because if you can offload shred to gloves the same affix either becomes necro pen on weapon, or crit multi on ammy. it doesnt compete with anything on gloves on the other hand, least opportunity cost

ofc if you can get an LP3 bloodmage be my guest 😄

[brisk elk]

no because you have to do like 2 billion damage in a single hit

so attack speed doesnt help

[grim field]

@obtuse quest so my understanding of uncapped is anything over the 75% right?

[abstract summit]

ah you meant marrowshard iteral one tap nm

that said if that 10 extra mana is not pushing you over a 100 threhsold it is zero value. for mshard one shot you still need to stack up boots stacks, so faster attacks means more stacks sooner, faster bug proc

[brisk elk]

its not just for mana

marrow shards do physical

so int = pen

[grim field]

btw if i generate a loot filter from my planner does it just do a general based of gear/skills used?

[brisk elk]

16 int is 16 phys pen, 64% dmg and 16 mana

[abstract summit]

oh ye the pen prob makes it worth, true

[brisk elk]

yeah

[abstract summit]

inc is whatever when you have julras lol

[brisk elk]

this is one very specific application otherwise its not worth

i already have near BIS for general use

[obtuse quest]

Uncapped is everything, INCLUDING over 75%.

[grim field]

so if i hit 200% nec res it counts all 200?>

[calm dome]

Any minion build using the primordial catalyst Bones of the Ancestral Pack?

[autumn bough]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/e481i0gt#1 here my ver basicaly changed rings and added gf compared to last season.here if u cant find

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[grim field]

thats insane

so if its 3% per nec res doesnt that mean at 200% nec res it would add 600% dmg?

and if so is there an item that converts other dmg sources into necrotic dmg?

[obtuse quest]

it's 3% per 3% necrotic res at 3 points.

(So 200% at 200%)

[obtuse quest]

Not really?

[grim field]

ah ok

[grim field]

so no all physical damage taken as necrotic type items?

since im going with bone curse on chaos should i use swine amulet as well?

so something like this than or is there a better relic to run since the new prim chest?

[obtuse quest]

I don't think so?

[obtuse quest]

WHy not? Run the decriptfy one and get 15% more dot damage