💀┃acolyte

[charred ridge]

it's like

regular double t7s also will give you a lot of single t7

[abstract summit]

i turns out i dont have a trove XD
but so double T7s not guaranteed in every proc under normal circumstances either right?

ye figured

at least it doesnt flat out brick so that's good

[charred ridge]

nope

there are some convoluted ways to track your imprints

the easiest one is to be MG and have your imprint MG tagged

it's like

imprints are the only way you'll ever drop an MG tagged item so you can filter that

[abstract summit]

meh

i mean from troves and echo rewards it's kinda obvious

[charred ridge]

you can also do CoF filter but as you can imagine that one is a lot less reliable

depends on your filter

my filter won't show pretty much anything unless it's double t7 so

i wont see most of my imprint procs lol

[abstract summit]

my base is untagged XD

didnt even notice it before

actually natty double T7 lol

[charred ridge]

ehg should give you a notification when u proc an imprint

[upper swan]

Hey guys, can anyone confirm to me if pact severance consumes the sacrifice manacost

[brisk elk]

@real turret to oneshot ubberoth do you need 2.1 bil in a single hit or within a certain timespan

@charred ridge you probably know as well

[charred ridge]

single hit

and you need 250mil dmg

not 2.1bil lol

[brisk elk]

to dummy i mean

thats what jess said

how much were you doing to dummy to be able to oneshot him?

ik he has crazy dr

[charred ridge]

yeah thats about the same amount

[brisk elk]

ok

i will test some stuff

[charred ridge]

idk i one shot the dummy

before i one shot uber

[brisk elk]

lol

[thorn grove]

bumping this in case anyone knows: #💀┃acolyte message

[viscid geyser]

question. is twisted heart suppose to give me 1 to harvest skill if I have the cold tag? because of the +1 to ele?

[thorn grove]

harvest is a melee skill not a spell skill so no, sorry

[viscid geyser]

I see now. so why do lich builds go for it?

[thorn grove]

idk for sure but my guess would be it's great for leveling with the essentially free dot and endgame maybe because it's got some global buffs it can apply? it's also a mana generator against bosses

[brisk elk]

pen applies at 100% effectiveness to bosses right?

[abstract summit]

oh hello beatiful

[brisk elk]

and aod reduction?

its only shred thats less effective

[thorn grove]

gib

[brisk elk]

or is it all resistance manipulation?

[tender ridge]

I haven't gotten any with more than 46% idol effect

[abstract summit]

well easy rerolls then XD

[tender ridge]

Even my 2lp is 45% 😠

[abstract summit]

bro im so behind on farming slam materials it's insane, i have all of these high LPs just gathering dust

[thorn grove]

what acolyte build uses that dagger 🔍

[tender ridge]

Flay lich

[thorn grove]

ohhh

[tender ridge]

You could probably do any crit spell with it too now that lich has dual wield

[thorn grove]

it's only necrotic res shred

[brisk elk]

my math is turbo jank but i believe the absolute highest single marrow shards hit would be with a wand, either a primordial crystal wand with t8+t7 mana or mad alchemists' ladle with t7+t7

no idea if you can actually get it to 2.1 billion or wtv

[thorn grove]

i would like to do a marrow shards build but it's so bugged

[brisk elk]

you dont like playing bugged op stuff?

[tender ridge]

Self cast is fine

You'll have to grind forever to get it to uberroth

[abstract summit]

what you mean this? 😛

[brisk elk]

dude i want to abuse ts while the abusing is hot

[tender ridge]

But I killed normal and 500c easy enough

[charred ridge]

well i'm already seeing 10k ward in maps

[abstract summit]

need to reroll it still tho cause it's straight up garbo

[thorn grove]

gets stale quick and feels like it dulls the reg gameplay for me

[charred ridge]

boots affix seems good 🤷‍♀️

[abstract summit]

my max is like 6500 but i only have 840 mana

[charred ridge]

im at like 2.3k mana with axe buff

[abstract summit]

lel

[brisk elk]

oh i have some tech

btwe

for marrow shards

instead of zombies

BEE BELT

no skills required

[abstract summit]

im happy i made it to 300+ c 😄

[charred ridge]

thats funny lmao

[brisk elk]

they removed zombie belt because of the sacrifice abuse

but

bees got us

[thorn grove]

dude, get rekt on those rolls kek

[brisk elk]

skill levels barely matter for this build

[thorn grove]

oh, right

[viral igloo]

Hi, am playing flay lich build but am just dying over and over and not sure what i need to do, does anyoen have some suggestions?

[thorn grove]

dont die

res first, make sure ur capped

[abstract summit]

@charred ridge did you also notice a lot of our CBs are indeed getting wasted in single target or am i missing sthing

[charred ridge]

i havent noticed that but it's possible

you mean like they miss the target?

[abstract summit]

ye by like 10 meters kek

[charred ridge]

also damn bro chill i wasnt asking for that much

i needed 1lp

LMAO

10 meters is quite a bit

def havent been noticing but im not paying that much attention

[unreal hill]

I need this for my primalist build, but that belt is bugged with yulia's path

[charred ridge]

whats bugged?

[unreal hill]

doesn't add spell damage when you're ignited, despite maelstrom having the necrotic tag.

[charred ridge]

f

[abstract summit]

like this happens sometimes

but it's situational

[charred ridge]

hmm weird

[brisk elk]

@charred ridge if the dmg tick leaves him below an execute threshold will it work

[abstract summit]

prob some terrain or hit box bs

[charred ridge]

no

[brisk elk]

ok ty'

[unique gale]

Very nice. Do you prefer Reliquary Nest Primordial Relic over Primordial Exalt Rune Dagger?

[charred ridge]

rune dagger is more dmg but requires more gear since it's harder to reach crit cap

until you can get a 2lp shattered worlds you'll probably be better off with the primordial relic

[brisk elk]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q97OMeno spitball planner for trying to oneshot ubberoth

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (83) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,935, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,879.92, Regen: 22.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 236%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 12 Dex / 118 Int / 12 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: -3% / -3% / -3% / 5% / 5% / 58% / 18%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 581
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (951)

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Flay / Chaos Bolts / Reaper Form / Harvest

[brisk elk]

needs work

i gtg tho

[charred ridge]

or 2lp nihilis

[unique gale]

Ah okay thnx, I will probably switch back to Primordial Relic

[charred ridge]

whats the idea?

[charred ridge]

if you already have your dagger u can just go with it

[brisk elk]

marrow shards bug makes it do way more than chaos bolts

and aura of decay shreds phys

so you try to get generic dmg instead of necrotic

[charred ridge]

oh you didnt include skills in the planner

[brisk elk]

also melee doesnt convert to spell for marrow shards

so hybrid necrotic is way less effective

yeah idk if it works

jess said they hit 500m on a dummy offline but i think they were using traitors tongue and other suboptimal stuff

ill test later

gtg

[charred ridge]

cya

just use ladle for wand lol

and primordial something else

can t8 gloves with mana if anything

weavers dont do anything

[brisk elk]

I was considering it, but ladle gives barely any flat spell, and phys flat spell is sorely lacking

I will look at it later

[charred ridge]

hmm

confluence of fate

[brisk elk]

One thing I thought of is rip blood manual cast for some flat dmg

[charred ridge]

maybe

rip blood stacking is alright

i mean it goes together with ladle

since that's cast speed

[brisk elk]

It's specifically phys, cold or generic that we need

To abuse aura shred

[charred ridge]

what aura shred

like resistance shred?

[brisk elk]

Aura of decay reducing res

Yeah

[charred ridge]

pen is not that important

[brisk elk]

200% flat pen is triple dmg no?

[charred ridge]

you get 200% flat pen from aod?

[brisk elk]

1% per int

Plus 15

[charred ridge]

oh

ok

[brisk elk]

It's really broken but not great for chaos bolts since the flat necrotic is so effective

[charred ridge]

sounds like ladle and spam rip blood

to me

[brisk elk]

Yeah likely

I'll check cast speed later

[charred ridge]

like if you're already stacking int

[brisk elk]

No longer at my pc

[charred ridge]

u get 200% cast speed

[brisk elk]

Oh shit true

[charred ridge]

u just stardial up spam rip blood for 3 seconds and flay up

[formal sparrow]

random julra drop (all mods came like this except flat hp i sealed the dodge for)

someone give me a 4 lp core of the mountain pls

[radiant vessel]

is there a blessing or acolyte passive or something thats not an affix I can use to get more reduced crit dmg taken?

ah im sure 42% reduced crit dmg will be fine

[versed fox]

After I disabled automatic potion pickup I've only had one death

highly suggest for all lowlifers

[abstract summit]

im mapping with zero lol

just dont get hit

[snow merlin]

am i just terrible or am i missing something with harvest flay? im stuck at 200 corruption cause the harbinger ends up killing me with some one shot i barely avoid

[radiant vessel]

post character

probably need more mana (or more cold damage?)

[versed fox]

harbinger is bugged

they're doing Way Too Much damage

[radiant vessel]

death seal gives u 3 seconds of invuln to kill em, as long as ur not on HC u can just die after and its cool

[snow merlin]

i see, thats good to know.

[snow merlin]

is there an easy way to post my character? sorry never done it

[radiant vessel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ click import top left

[charred ridge]

@brisk elk do i need to do any fancy minion stuff

for marrow shards

i'll test it

i have a setup in mind

[snow merlin]

im using the maxroll build for harvest and it doesnt use death seal

[snow merlin]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnW8Wl1B

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (85)

General:

▸ Health: 2,435, Regen: 25.48/s
▸ Mana: 183.48, Regen: 10.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 178%, Regen: 22/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 36 Dex / 77 Int / 9 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 72% / 48% / 26% / 43% / 83% / 43%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 877
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (444)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,543)

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Harvest / Flay / Aura Of Decay / Transplant

[buoyant bear]

I'm having this issue too, did you ever find out?

[radiant vessel]

im not super familiar with the harvest build but I feel like you are missing a massive amount of damage with just 36 dex and no +flat damage on ur weps

and yeah since harbingers are bugged rn and slap hard as shit u kinda just need to blitz em

or play perfectly and dodge everything

[brisk elk]

No it's one single minion per proc, the only purpose of the bees/zombies is to have enough for multiple

You can use the skeletons too

[tender ridge]

this is completely off topic, but how do you pronounce that name @brisk elk

I'm aware of my own name

[charred ridge]

ok cus jess said there might be some bug giving more dmg if u have multiple minions

but iuno

[brisk elk]

"Kellen" in English or "Queelin" in Gaelic

[brisk elk]

No idea, if that's true then summon 60 bees with chaps of holding

And do 5 billion

[tender ridge]

lol

that would be easy to test

summon one skeleton, hit the dummy

summon two, hit the dummy

compare numbers

[brisk elk]

It may be only specific minions that bug it as well

[tender ridge]

true

[brisk elk]

@real turret any idea?

If all minions work, then chaps with bees easily gets us the necessary dmg

[formal sparrow]

what blessing from the ending the storm monolith would yall recommend for cold flay

[brisk elk]

Mana

Even for melee you want some extra mana

[tender ridge]

idk what else you'd even want from there. is cold damage from EtS?

I play so much primalist that I end up getting the regen one the most and kinda forget the rest

[formal sparrow]

i also feel like mana is better than 100% cold damage

just to have a bit more cbs

im abouit to do the 10 harbinger boss thing its lookin HARD

[tender ridge]

I got blasted for 10k at 300c and I was like "yeah I'm good"

I think it's a victim of the scaling bug

[formal sparrow]

how even when even autos kill me

[formal sparrow]

they havent fixed it???

[tender ridge]

not until 1.3.1

[formal sparrow]

which is when

[tender ridge]

"later this week" - tm

[formal sparrow]

even doing well i kill 3 then i die to random garbo that shouldnt one shot lmao

ima just have to path around that node and not reset my board QQ

[unique gale]

yea the mobs do a ton of damage atm

[charred ridge]

@brisk elk

[abstract summit]

rookie numbers

[radiant vessel]

Just don't get auto attacked smh

Yeah the 10 harbinger echo is brutal

[abstract summit]

not even 2B smh

[charred ridge]

got a 1.5bil too

it's harder on uber tho

[formal sparrow]

usiung what

[charred ridge]

bugs

[abstract summit]

bugs lol

[unique gale]

I was farming at 1000 corruption initially but I lowered down to 750 corruption till they fix the damage

[drowsy anvil]

How many hp does strongest boss have?

[charred ridge]

250mil

[formal sparrow]

my big numbers were from stacking giga ignites with black hole and making them boom with enchant weapon but thats kinda not legit dps

[charred ridge]

but training dummies take ~7x more dmg

[willow current]

Can you rune of creation a unique?

[drowsy anvil]

So you effectively almost one shot him?

[brisk elk]

AHAHAHAH I KNEW IT

How many minions

[native bison]

Building manaflay. How do you know whether 1 item is better than the other? There doesn't seem to be any tooltip damage on chaos bolts or marrow

[charred ridge]

just 3 skellies

[abstract summit]

i kinda wish they dont fix within this patch, it would be a beautiful disaster

[charred ridge]

actually i think i had bees

[brisk elk]

Did you test if minions scale it

[charred ridge]

nop

[tender ridge]

try lower minion numbers

see if the minion count matters

[brisk elk]

^

[unique gale]

are the minions just for marrow sacrifice or do they explode and do damage too

[charred ridge]

i cba tbh

[brisk elk]

I'll try it myself later lol

[charred ridge]

im zdps on uber tho

not sure why

[brisk elk]

Huh

Interesting

[tender ridge]

wouldn't it be funny if the bug was specifically on the dummy

[brisk elk]

The bug definitely works on timeline bosses and orobyss

Because I was able to oneshot a 300 cor Harbinger before she moved

[old hull]

No

[tender ridge]

during the silly DR they get for their monologue?

because that's nuts

[willow current]

I guess that would be op if you had like one perfect roll exalted legendary already

[brisk elk]

Nah right after it ended

[tender ridge]

ah ok

I've done wthat with smelter's wrath

[brisk elk]

Although if I had 1 billion damage on a dummy I'm sure it would be different

[charred ridge]

i think im just not getting double dip procs on uber

cause i dont have flay stacks so it's rng

[abstract summit]

#💀┃acolyte message bro didnt even wait a full day

i got the receipts

[charred ridge]

LOL

[tender ridge]

lol

[charred ridge]

got it

@brisk elk @abstract summit @real turret

[tender ridge]

well that's pretty good

[unique gale]

geeze

[brisk elk]

💀

Knew it

[charred ridge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A69OEb0o

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (83) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,436, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 2,986.48, Regen: 29.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 250%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 12 Dex / 125 Int / 12 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 17% / 17% / 17% / 25% / 25% / 78% / 38%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 935
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 14% (394)

Used skills:

Flay / Reaper Form / Rip Blood / Marrow Shards / Aura Of Decay

[tender ridge]

wonder if they'll hot fix it or leave it like umbral blades was until the end of S2

[charred ridge]

nice tech

[brisk elk]

I mean

[charred ridge]

i'll be honest i never would have looked at that AoD shred because i don't look at AoD

😂

[brisk elk]

Aod is broken for cold and phys hit now

Previously the shred barely mattered because poison pen isn't exactly hard to get

[abstract summit]

kek

[charred ridge]

i'll keep this in the back of my mind for the future

also thought of using mourningfrost and dex stacking a bit

but cba

nvm

cant use mourningfrost

duh

i already went through the same thought process 10 mins ago

😂

[abstract summit]

so what, bees and AOD?

[charred ridge]

i dont think bees are necessary but yeah

[brisk elk]

He literally has 4 minions in the clip

[charred ridge]

just aod and use ladle + rip blood

[brisk elk]

Idk if it scales with total minions or not but clearly it doesn't matter

[abstract summit]

surely a fix is already incoming 👀

[brisk elk]

If more minions equals more dmg then take whatever he did and 10x it with bee belt

Idk if that's the case though

[charred ridge]

you know whats hilarious tho

like 3-4 hours ago i respec'ed to marrow shards

and i only realized now that i didn't respec flay to actually cast marrow shards

LMAO

[abstract summit]

bruh

[unique gale]

😂

[charred ridge]

yeah can jungle queen and t7 bees

i had t5 bees here

i mean if minions scale ur dmg exponentially then u can just one shot uber in grey gear

ngl

😂

[brisk elk]

60 bees gaming

[abstract summit]

post your one shot in general pls

let the masses spasm out

[formal sparrow]

why do you go from doing 0 dmg to a trillion

[abstract summit]

he needed flays boots stack to pop

[formal sparrow]

i read the bee thing after, sounds like bug abuse lol

[drifting mantle]

for abom necro, is low life cleaver build better than monument of protection/full hp?

how much ward do you generate usually with the low life build

[charred ridge]

it's bug abuse ye

[charred ridge]

i dont wanna advertise offline play too much

[formal sparrow]

what even makes this happen in this league that didnt last league

like

ppl coulda spammed bees like this last league

[charred ridge]

its just some weird shit with marrow shards and the new army of skin (flay) boots

[unique gale]

no flay deadly plot last season

[charred ridge]

doesnt actually have much to do with bees

[tender ridge]

army of skin adds a bunch of flat damage right?

[formal sparrow]

what happens with marrow shard n flay

[charred ridge]

na

marrow shards just benefit from deadly plot twice

so instead of being a 9x multiplier it's a 81x multiplier

• some other bugs

inside the marrow shard tree

that probably have existed for years

[formal sparrow]

huh weird

[tender ridge]

you know i've played with marrow shards a lot and never took the minion node before

i wonder how long that bug has existed

[charred ridge]

of course

who wants to take minion nodes 🤮

[tender ridge]

i'm all for cross-skill synergies like that

they just need to be realistic

something like auto reviving minions that don't take a boatload of investment

[craggy flax]

never figured out what was causing it, ended up scrapping the build

[obtuse quest]

Stares at zombie rings

[tender ridge]

do zombie rings hit 100% revive rate?

[brisk elk]

You are guaranteed one revive per zombie

[obtuse quest]

Their only roll is 100% revive rate.

Two rings gives you two auto reviving zombies

[tender ridge]

i've never played with zombies. didn't know that

[brisk elk]

Because it's 100%/number of zombies

[charred ridge]

man anybody else get this bug

after tping out of a mono

[obtuse quest]

The only issue is that it’s zombies and so they sucide often

[charred ridge]

i swear i lose so many echo rewards

[tender ridge]

you ever just trip and fall into the sun?

[brisk elk]

Hate when I get sent into the vacuum of space

[charred ridge]

it's after every 4 monos

[abstract summit]

did so much damage you unlocked a secret level

welcome to the void

[charred ridge]

i guessi t's just me

[obtuse quest]

I swear this bug never got fully fixed with how often it comes back

[buoyant bear]

Right there with you 😢

[charred ridge]

never had it before 1.3 personally

lol

at least it's not new i guess

they changed something with the portals

they gave it a smoother animation

it looks real cool

unfortunately that broke it for me

[abstract summit]

i just noticed how you made sure to never accidentally press evade lmao

[drifting idol]

seems like a lot of tools of a draining HP lich build, altho it also seems like pretty bad with reaper form tho mmm

[charred ridge]

rofl all my uber kills are super scripted

[abstract summit]

4 more procs no doubles 😭

[oak harbor]

is there a threshold where negative enemy resistance is no longer worth it? im trying to stack int for Aura of Decay's Fume Weaver node.

100 int gives -100 res seems pretty strong

[charred ridge]

i got one as you said that

thank you 😂

[abstract summit]

reeeeeeeeeeee

[charred ridge]

pen (res shred) is always good

[abstract summit]

from normal double t7s or from a sealed

[charred ridge]

normal one

[abstract summit]

i legit dont have a trove to actually test it XD

rank 6

[charred ridge]

trove wouldnt even guarantee it anyway

[oak harbor]

it scales leanerly? no decay?

[charred ridge]

you can go like 10 troves without getting shit

[charred ridge]

linearly yes

not sure wym by decay

there are diminishing returns like everything that scales linearly

[abstract summit]

i mean ye but would deff be getting more procs than one a day

[charred ridge]

probably yeah lol

[abstract summit]

or how else would you target farm imprint procs

[charred ridge]

nah thats the way

i was saying you'd need more than 1 trove

but i just realized u meant, you need 1 so u can imprint it

lol

im just imprinting rampant coast rn

takes 5 seconds to clear an echo so it's actually good for the bottom left imprint

and ofc u get primordial mats

[obtuse quest]

It’s only the usual “stack way too much of a single multiplier” issue that every more modifier has. Note that the node also hits your own res, so you gotta build around that or get one shot lmao

[oak harbor]

oh lmao forgot it applies to self

[abstract summit]

ye fair im doing the orian belt farm kinda for the same

and for, belts 😄

[charred ridge]

oh orian has an echo reward?

[oak harbor]

i fee it's straight better than whatever utility/dmg marrow shards can provide in a mana flay build.

[charred ridge]

you're probably missing the part where marrow shards is bugged to do like 100x the usual dmg

but other than that ye u are right marrow shards is bad

thing is chaos bolts kinda have to be necrotic

you could try for cold/phys bolts but it's prob worse

it's worth mathing though

[abstract summit]

oh ye

[charred ridge]

i didnt know that lol thats good

i was surprised rampant coast even had an echo reward

[charred ridge]

i wonder if they added echo rewards to more echoes

[abstract summit]

imagine, Orian dropping Orians 😄

[charred ridge]

lol

[oak harbor]

lol what?? how 100x damage? most of my dmg so far comes from chaos bolt triggered harvest, all cold with the unique idol.

[obtuse quest]

One of marrow shard's multiplier is bugged to give more than listed. MUCH more than listed.

[chilly sun]

very new to epoch, ive completed campaign and the event and now im just kinda stuck with trash gear, any pointers to progress?

[obtuse quest]

Normal monoliths, properly setup filters, start crafting if you haven't.

[chilly sun]

crafting?

[obtuse quest]

Forging.

Don't tell me you never forged...

[chilly sun]

i have but not alot

[obtuse quest]

Oh thank god.

[charred ridge]

got this before my dagger

so i guess it's time for the ladle marrow shards setup xdd

[obtuse quest]

But yeah you need to start looking for items with some affixes you want to craft them into great items you want.

[abstract summit]

from neme?

[charred ridge]

random drop

i got 3 imprints so far and only 1 was from nemesis

[chilly sun]

the thing is.. i do not know what affixes i needa get.

[abstract summit]

cheater

[obtuse quest]

Do you understand what build you're going for?

[abstract summit]

ok nevermind 😄

fakken staff tho

[chilly sun]

probably profane

[calm dome]

My favorite part of Last Epoch is inventory management. Rate my stash tabs. I almost have the all classes equipment category finished.

[obtuse quest]

Then you need to figure out what scales that damage and find the affixes for it, and also what defenses to use and find those as well.

[obtuse quest]

Look at this guy, this guy was rich with gold

[calm dome]

Gold means nothing in CoF other than more stash tabs

and respeccing I guess

[obtuse quest]

True

[obtuse fossil]

I built a blood spectre horde using abom to spam sacrifice. I was sustaining about 15-20 spectres by the time I quit.

It was pretty frustrating that the abom was rarely in the front lines because of the constant skill use animation of sacrifice. I dunno how often the abom's Dread Shade was really buffing the horde...

I used skeleton archers with 100% resummon to get a 20 stack golem shooting 2000% recurves. Turns out Recurves don't use an animation, so the sacrifice spam didn't stop it from shooting (if it was in range of anything), but I'd rather the recurve be a normal cooldown so it would scale with CDR and sacrifice not use an animation...

A bugged kept causing the abom to sac himself randomly so I eventually just stopped playing it, and now I'm waiting for this issue to get fixed.

[abstract summit]

fck ye reveawing delivers 😄

[drifting idol]

i suppose the scornful blood node will cancel out drain blood's leech?

[obtuse quest]

The heck is drain blood, but it stops all leech yes.

[drifting idol]

drain life

sry

[abstract summit]

bruh 1H mace

[rapid bobcat]

how much mana is needed for harvest flay?

[warm lake]

i had 120 and was doing fine

[obtuse quest]

Depends on how often you're going to rely on chaos bolts.
The normal answer is : Yes.

[warm lake]

if its mana harvest u need min to 800

[rapid bobcat]

Ultimately i want to transition to this, but im level 70 and have the gear needed to go into harvest flay

but unsure of mana reqs

and worried about not being as strong lol

[obtuse quest]

Yeah there's two kinds of flay builds.
Mana flay needs however much you can get so you can output chaos bolts like a machine gun.

The other kind doesn't need as much but also has lower ceiling of damage output.

[rapid bobcat]

Yeah, this isnt acheiveable at my level currently

[warm lake]

i just swapped to mana lich aswell and im lvl 83

[craggy flax]

myself and a couple others have had the same experience, spam casting sac was awkward, and deleting himself randomly

[naive nimbus]

I think I'm a witchfire enjoyer now

[willow current]

honestly switching to manaflay without 800mana min isn't terrible. i need to get like one more ring and the belt and helmet though. no idea what i can use to replace the helmet until i can do aberroth tho

[abstract summit]

some of us started at 200-400, it's fiiiineee

[willow current]

ye im at 317 just got the 2nd ring

[abstract summit]

trash is fine XD

but if you wanna be fancy a barbute is good

[willow current]

im being greedy and waiting till i get t7 mana exalts before i stuff them into uniques

[abstract summit]

ye it's an issue lol

[willow current]

oh right different versions of mana flay

[abstract summit]

i have good 1LP fillers but not for 2 and 3 LPs

[willow current]

makes sense

i have a bunch of t1 tithe that im willing to stuff t6 melee necrotic into it when i can.

[abstract summit]

ye im not doing the rune dagger stuff

[willow current]

im using traitor rn but no idea what to go/get other than that. like do i want the primordial relic if im using traitor?

[abstract summit]

yes

[willow current]

cuz im just using this for now

[abstract summit]

it's either that or T8 dagger with shattered world

or carved before ye

[willow current]

ah i see ok

[tacit plinth]

I am using carved as well for the moment 222 possible mana and 2 double res high helps for budget lich build i guess

[vivid ruin]

I think T8 primordial mana armor+t5 reaper with exalted relic/shattered is actually best on paper. But I havent found a worthwhile armor yet so i'm still using primordial relid.

[willow current]

how do you guys choose what idols to use? like from build guide just use any with 1 or both stats?

[vivid ruin]

I use 1 with frailty, 1 with ignite, res's as needed then fill the slots with the best I have: Mana>health>crit reduc/armor.

My idols arent great tho. Hard to get good idols even running every tomb.

[willow current]

got it

ty

[abstract summit]

is not

[vivid ruin]

Easy was when I put it into my spreadsheet with expected gear; even with better than realistic idols.

[willow current]

if im doing tithe with traitor that means i should go for primordial relic but for chest is woven flesh fine or is that specifically for the t8 dagger?

[vivid ruin]

Lots of chests work. I just used T7 mana chest and now i'm wearing Null with T7 mana on it and overcapped res's.

If you're a mana stacker, then mana beast everything in most circumstances.

If dex stacked instead, that's different.

[abstract summit]

it's not better than double mana legendary slam and primordial relic

[willow current]

right

[vivid ruin]

Double mana?

[abstract summit]

flat + %

[vivid ruin]

On body armor?

[abstract summit]

ya

and on helm, for that matter lol

[vivid ruin]

I couldnt even put % on my hats as the game stopped me due to class locking.

[abstract summit]

read up, the slammed item is not gonna be class locked

farming the exalt is not easy tho ofc

[vivid ruin]

The game didn;t give me the option to complete the exercise. Maybe I missed something. I tried 😄

[old hull]

The unique can't have a class requirement

[charred ridge]

im getting the idols for last season, nice!

[old hull]

So you can do the slam on seed of Ekkidrasil, but not fractured crown, for example.

[vivid ruin]

Pretty sure I tried to put a rogue hat onto dominance of the tundra and it wouldn't let me. I'll try one again, pretty sure I kept some hat bases.

I must've f'd something up.

[old hull]

There are other reasons it will reject a slam, like you need 4 non-sealed affixes on the exalt. But rogues can equip that helm, so you can definitely slam any rogue helm on it.

[vivid ruin]

Once I get more bases i'll try again and try to figure out what I did wrong.

I'm handicapped on mana then using t7 flat mana on armor and hat.

i'm also about 500 weavers rings deep without landing a decent one yet 😄 Stuck in minion rings.

[willow current]

because im using traitor tongue the mana flay on maxroll doesn't have enough skill points on the skills passives so i ended up doing weird stuff with the extras

oh that was easy 2nd time doing empowered reign of dragon and got max roll all res blessing

[fossil basin]

does reaper form counts as transformed? can i use affixes and idols for transformed on lich and will it work?

[abstract summit]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/BingletonGaming/character/ManaAffixesAreBugged
well it def does work

[vivid ruin]

Yea, I presume I messed something up when attempting it on hour 20 of play on day 1 😄

[fossil basin]

but why it doesn't have a tag "Transform" like druid class skills have? so i guess it needs tag to work?

[vivid ruin]

I'll get more bases and try it out.

[abstract summit]

so ye this is way better than T8 chest

primo relic vs rune dagger is more debatable

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[abstract summit]

if you do rune dagger we still favor it with shattered worlds + double julra rings but well

[obtuse quest]

It's right there.

[naive nimbus]

the in-game hover text doesn't show the transform tag on Reaper Form though

a bit odd

[vivid ruin]

Yes, I agree dual mana is much better.
I didn;t even think of T8 primo rune dagger. That could easily be better with T8 necrotic + T6 mana.

[fossil basin]

i look in game description (because it must be more relevant) and it doesn't have one

[obtuse quest]

Weird. necrotic isn't even supposed to be there.

THis looks like reap's tags.

But it doesn't have the stat tags so

❓

[vivid ruin]

Stat tags removed to stop extra skills from traitors I think

[naive nimbus]

shouldn't it have only transform and melee?

[fossil basin]

no, reap has other tags

[obtuse quest]

Yeah, but still exists on reap

[vivid ruin]

cos extra skills on reap arent that strong, whereas reaper is insane.

[obtuse quest]

According to LETOols, it has Melee, transform, area, movement

[naive nimbus]

mmm, makes sense

[obtuse quest]

More like it wouldn't matter at all since you can't spend them anyway, it's purely for reap's stat scaling

[naive nimbus]

since you do cast reap upon transform

[vivid ruin]

Heaps of areas for extra value in reaper form. Could use up to 33 points in global benefits.

[fossil basin]

so i guess transform affixes dont work on reap form without tag? is there a way to check it to be sure 100%, because now it looks frustrating especially with le tools

[vivid ruin]

What would all the X% leech or x% damage while transoformed acolyte mods be doing if they didnt work for reaper?

[naive nimbus]

transform affixes work on reaper form

reaper form's hover text is just messed up

[obtuse quest]

Can't you just test with the chimera amulet that drops your res while transformed?

[naive nimbus]

showing wrong tags

and missing the ones it should have

[jagged marten]

are you just using prophecies to farm the minor weavers? having a hard time finding the mana/mana/health ones

[fossil basin]

ok, now i get it. I placed damage leeched as health idol and it increased this stat on character stats panel, so it works with reaper form, thanks!
but tags so bad at understanding this

[charred ridge]

yep

[jagged marten]

just unlucky then lol

[charred ridge]

about 1mil favor for a full set

[vivid ruin]

I had no idea weaver idols came from prophecies. I thought thet only dropped reg idols.

[jagged marten]

was bugged for a while, now you can get weaver prophecies specifically

[vivid ruin]

Is there a weaver lens? Or just refreeshing for them?

[jagged marten]

there is not, just lenses for "small" ones like that

[vivid ruin]

Wish i'd known this 😄 haha

Can ones that say '24x idols' drop weavers as well or only trash?

[willow current]

nemesis is amazing.

im so glad for buyback. not me instantly selling it instead of stashing it...

[abstract summit]

beeg

@charred ridge after how many troves echo will the science project become kinda sus?

[charred ridge]

probably 15

[abstract summit]

aight

[vivid ruin]

Science project?

[remote quail]

How do these two skills interact with each other? Does one overwrite the other?

[hot parcel]

Is it me or is there a bug that your abobination die when you try to pick up a health potion?

[astral kettle]

As a Necromancer If I only have 100% necrotic resistance shred and have only apply it through Harvest then how much attack speed* would I need to be able to apply a decent amount or 10 stacks?

[tiny dirge]

any weapon to slam? meta

[charred ridge]

oh man why shield

[vivid ruin]

wtf? Where is this from? I've never seen 3x t7

[charred ridge]

nemesis

[obtuse quest]

Do you have the node that kills a minion on potion consume?

[hot parcel]

Where can I see that?

[abstract summit]

RIP lmao

[naive nimbus]

your class passives

[naive nimbus]

this one

[hot parcel]

Oh i see

[abstract summit]

raw dogging normal abby with 800 mana and a dream is kinda fun lol

[hot parcel]

is there a way to filter health potion haha

[obtuse quest]

You can disable auto potion consumtion

SOmewhere in the settings.

[hot parcel]

I see it now

Thank you!!

[charred ridge]

@abstract summit btw you can buy bags of 5k memory ambers from the primordial guy

i just bought like 15

to rank up faster and buy troves

[vivid ruin]

You reckon troves are that good to buy at 3.5k ea?

That's expen

[warm lake]

so i just switched to mana flay lich and im still using the evoluations end amulet should i swap it out with an amulet with t6 mana until i get nihilis ?

[charred ridge]

troves are the entirety of last epoch's end endgame

you basically just do troves the entire time lol

[vivid ruin]

I have been double trove in tree 98% of the time; only swappiung when I want something in particular. But i've felt the trove yield to be lackluster.

[charred ridge]

you need double t7 imprints

something like this

otherwise troves are useless

[vivid ruin]

I haven't found a double t7 yet!

[charred ridge]

but once you have one, troves will be p-much all you do, so u can find more and slam them

[vivid ruin]

Hmm. That souns like poe is calling on Saturday 😄

[abstract summit]

hmm

[vivid ruin]

Corruption pushing is fun but i'm probs gonna hit a wall today and probs sub 1k.

[abstract summit]

ye imma finish my normal abbies first

what's the exchange ratio? is it worth focusing on beast to sustain troves or folly/temple is still better?

[charred ridge]

wym by beast

like the beast woven echo?

i'd just take the primordial bags as a bonus

cause it's not like you can really buy that echo at 7500 ambers per lol

so you'd have to randomly get your primordial mats

it doesn't look like you can really target farm them (aside from imprinting the echo)

[vivid ruin]

Does loot scale much with corruption? I feel like my loot at 750 feels comparable to 300 or less.

[charred ridge]

it does but it's not massive

[abstract summit]

there are 2 more cheaper beastie echoes too no? altho havent measured how much mats tehy give

[unique gale]

cleared it with my mapping setup on test run 🤣 now time to try to gather the one shot gear before Friday

[charred ridge]

they take longer than killing 1 mob but i havent looked too deep into the rewards

looks worse though

[abstract summit]

what i was kinda wondering if imprinting the beast echo would be better than troves if it goves you more than "one troves worth" of amber in beastie mats

but i guess proc chance would be also way lower

[charred ridge]

the beast echo procs like crazy

like idk what EHG did

but it procs 4x more than anything else

it's actually hard to run out of imprinted echoes

[abstract summit]

tbh i jsut f hate running follies and lost temples kek

[charred ridge]

every time you clear some, more show up

at some point i had 5 beast echoes connected to each other lol

[unique gale]

they're great

[abstract summit]

i mean that does sound good

but ye that's what i have ssen with the other beastie, it procced like crazy

so if it's enough to sustain the troves i would be happy

[charred ridge]

troves will prob never be sustainable lol

just pushed to 1k c, time to actually lay down a trove farm

[abstract summit]

1 heart 10 horn 1500 bones

one trove is 3500, bag is 5k

i think heart is guaranteed from the 7500 echo right?

[charred ridge]

ya

bottleneck is bones

uh

horns i guess

[real turret]

Gg

[abstract summit]

so need 7 horns and 1k bones

that honestly doesnt sound too bad

you are at 1k check how much you are getting per run 😄

[charred ridge]

wrong season again

[abstract summit]

lmao

at least it's minroll

[charred ridge]

tbf i had one last season

[unique gale]

nice

[charred ridge]

before after, 2 echoes

[calm dome]

the random golds and 0 lp uniques are not enough anymore. Too squishy. Need actual gear now

[abstract summit]

okay so just needs more horns from normal beast, spec ambush node maybe?

[charred ridge]

i have it spec'ed

[abstract summit]

also have age of beasts?

apparently increases the chances of ambush as well

[charred ridge]

i have all the primordial weaver nodes

[abstract summit]

ye respecced too now. did you get all teh blockers too?

[charred ridge]

nope

dont think blockers are useful

it's just echo rewards, they suck anyway

[abstract summit]

ye but smaller pool should mean more imprint procs no?

[charred ridge]

unrelated

imprint just has a chance to proc whenever you claim your reward

it doesnt matter what the reward is

[worthy arch]

Man i put together some sick ass lich build. Super tanky so far I've face tanked all content in the game and almost been 1 shotting all bosses. Still super early tho so im sure that will change.

[abstract summit]

h kay

[charred ridge]

what u playing?

[abstract summit]

this is just RNG I and doesnt prove anything about the sealed T7 I guess?

[charred ridge]

probably lol

can you tell for sure it came from an imprint?

and whats your imprint again

[obtuse quest]

What build did you make?

[worthy arch]

I'll post a picture one sec. I just recently started so not super familiar with all the skill names yet.

[abstract summit]

ye it was a proc for sure, got like 4 single T7 chests from echo reward

all of them untagged like the base

[charred ridge]

do you know what the echo reward was

usually imprints drop 3 items not 4

[abstract summit]

i ahve been getting 4-5s every proc

[charred ridge]

p2w client

[obtuse quest]

You could use LETools' build planner

[abstract summit]

it was EXP reward so def a proc 😄

[unique gale]

maybe i will try sealing increased mana on my chest imprint

[abstract summit]

but how do the tiers work, is it fully random or are there some rules how much higher the tiers on the proc can be?

cause i only had T2 and T3 on the base so if it's max +-1 then the T6 def came from the sealed right?

[worthy arch]

@obtuse quest @charred ridge https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olpNqRzo i only filled out the nodes i currently have unlocked, again super very early into the game so im sure it wont be as easy at it is now but ive tried 2 other classes and they werent as hard stomp as this. around the same levels too.

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (10)

General:

▸ Health: 1,158, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 104.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 8 Int / 2 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 3% / 3%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 232

Used skills:

Wandering Spirits / Bone Curse / Reaper Form

[lofty patrol]

I'm seemingly struggling more with each progressive season. Just got to monos with a fissure leveling build but am dying very frequently. Is there a particular res I need to focus on or is my itemization just crap? Never had so many deaths since starting prior to s1.

[unique gale]

I just remembered last season, the sealed affix on this helmet would show up quite frequently. I thought it was just a coincidence but who knows 😂

[charred ridge]

you can import your character btw if you don't know

[worthy arch]

oh.

[charred ridge]

ok just got uber down

[worthy arch]

i didnt klnow.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe3nLvqo

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 25

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (10)

General:

▸ Health: 420, Regen: 15.53/s
▸ Mana: 91.63, Regen: 8.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 10 Int / 2 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 18% / 7% / 18% / 13% / 3% / 9%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 84
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (50)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 13% (76)

Used skills:

Wandering Spirits / Bone Curse / Reaper Form

[worthy arch]

there we go lol

thanks @charred ridge

[abstract summit]

ye it also procs at 350 lmao

close to center as well

4 horn 900 bones, seems consistent with yours so prob doesnt scale with corr too much

[uneven citrus]

All numerical gains such as faction rep is weird

Distance from the hub seems to be most important for a lot of calculations

[abstract summit]

well not for this one apparently 😄

like if for nothing else it is def best to level weaver faction

[real turret]

@charred ridge pushing to 3k was easy af, i didnt even see one orobyss ability cause he's just stunlocked until dead

but the melee attack not being telegraped and having 360 degree coverage is really starting to p me off

can u think of a way to get real dodge on this?

[charred ridge]

probably just gotta die and dodge it on the next try lol

[real turret]

idk i lost so much corr just resetting the initial orobyss cause its some bs like void star explosions and ice comets

uptime of 1 sec in 40

[obtuse quest]

Errr, what? Wandering spirits doesn’t even proc bone curse.

[abstract summit]

hope that was on the ethical build Sir!

[charred ridge]

working on the ethical now lol

[abstract summit]

boooooooo

[calm dome]

Is there any other primordial unique I should get that Acolyte can use

other than tyrant skull

the dagger or crit amulet?

[swift forge]

The dagger is used for lich in some builds

[abstract summit]

LOL my redemption hit it XD

surely im not gonna get cucked during the slam

[willow current]

first lp4 ever but like im on acolyte tho

also i just got one tapped by this even tho the animation didn't happen. i assume my necro res isn't high enough??

[willow current]

ok i finally got my t7 dagger so nice dmg upgrade there.

[charred ridge]

wat

[willow current]

how rare is that

[charred ridge]

let's just say i've never seen one before

posted by anybody

it's LPL 70 (1 in 3,725) so not that incredibly rare but also it's a boss drop so

[real turret]

bro i get like 1x 2lp in a league wdym 3lp

[charred ridge]

wdym you get 1x 2lp

you get like 10 just from slamming stuff 😂

[real turret]

i had 4 so far last league + this league

and i played thousands of hours and slammed thousand items

[charred ridge]

this 3lp is gonna miss the double prefix and it's gonna be so sad

[unique gale]

wtf

[real turret]

like last league i was using 1lps

in the end

cause i only dropped a couple and missed both

[unique gale]

I never got 3lp julra before

[charred ridge]

nah but it's definitely wild

hopefully the slam lands

prob like int/spell dmg/hp/ward

*endurance actually not ward

[willow current]

gl

[abstract summit]

i jsut missed attack speed on my 3 lp tongue, im feeling this rn

and int on pale ox
and mana% on valeroot XD

i shoudl go to bed

[hollow flint]

dont miss the bed though, that one might hurt

[abstract summit]

but hey im crit immune now 🤣

[charred ridge]

rofl that's convenient at least 😂

[dusty onyx]

so it's +4 for harvest and flay?

[grim rune]

my bad boy

[willow current]

@abstract summit because you're using traitor tongues where are you using your 4 extra points on the other skills?

[abstract summit]

uhm

super doesnt matter basically? 😄

[willow current]

ah ok cool

so just stuff them somewhere where they look useful than

[grim rune]

what's called the %mana

affix?

forgot to add it into filter...

Azure?

[abstract summit]

ye

same didnt have enough shards for like half an hour lol

[grim rune]

do u think it's worth using for mapping?

[willow current]

i just realized something if im using traitors tongue do i want to have 2 phantom grips or 2 stardial?

[charred ridge]

stardial

or red ring

[grim rune]

can we imprint experimental ?

[willow current]

thank you

it feels weird following the mana flay on maxroll when my gear is now different lol

[abstract summit]

ye this beastie farm is kinda good lol

the ambush seems to be bait tho

[hollow flint]

any ideas on how to get my ehp for elemental damage up? I wish there would be some affix that improved armor efficiency for elemental damage or something

[left whale]

About time

[abstract summit]

bro you are giga tanky by lich standards lol

[hollow flint]

I want to right click uberroth though

[abstract summit]

you kinda do that by damage, not necessary by tank

[grim rune]

I love how u can fear abberoth then stun him XD

[hollow flint]

That only works when doing stupid amounts of damage though and while my damage is fine I dont think I will reach that amount by going glass canon

[abstract summit]

depends on build

we have two which can do it

i dont think we have any which can tank it for 5 minutes with zero effort, judgement style

actually 3 I guess

[astral kettle]

Melee necrotic damage has a chance to apply Damned by default right?

[real turret]

hmm do i play poe2 or gear profane veil

[abstract summit]

poe2 is kinda hype ngl

[real turret]

if they removed tower overlap my choice would be 100% poe2

[abstract summit]

oh ye actually profane veil, 4 😄

[real turret]

but endgame still seems meh

[abstract summit]

it is meh but at least quant is implicit now thankfully

[obtuse quest]

no

[astral kettle]

Thanks

[real turret]

pretty sure profane is even more busted than marrow shards

its not the best build for uber tho

but pushing corruption i havent seen a better build

[abstract summit]

so ye have fun early league as usual, burn out within 2 days in towers as usual, come back and build profane 😄

[real turret]

haha actually sounds like a plan

would be a waste to let my 70 troves go to waste after so much effort

beast echo strat goated

[abstract summit]

did you beast farm, folly farm, or have some secret

ye beastie

no way it isnt bugged btw lmao

[real turret]

yeah they REALLY fked up the rarity

on all 3 of the beast echos

[abstract summit]

im not gonna report this one tho

[real turret]

pls dont i dont want to go back to folly lolol

[abstract summit]

fairly sure they misplaced a decimal again somewhere 😄

[real turret]

best thing about this league

you have to enter tombs maybe like once a day

i hate tombs

[abstract summit]

i love pale ox

[hollow flint]

what are those rookie numbers

[abstract summit]

well i also have damage 😄

[hollow flint]

wow that hurt 🙁

actually kinda sad how hard armor deminishes. 13k armor is only 80% reduction

[grim rune]

tf

send ur planner

[hollow flint]

at least I can kill the dummy in reasonable time, its good enough for me

[abstract summit]

nah im jsut talking trash, nowhere near end game gear yet

[grim rune]

why maxroll 'tanky' version of mana flay has only 1.8k armor

[hollow flint]

me neither, I dont even have my blossom of immortal stone yet

[astral kettle]

Do bosses in this game have in-built health regen?

[grim rune]

the rolls tho are shite

[abstract summit]

obv 7k is with all my shit 😄 but 3500-4000 baseline human form is possible if ya invest into it

[obtuse quest]

no

[hollow flint]

man I wish I had that, its so good when armor capped

[grim rune]

but dropping nihils...

[astral kettle]

So what's the use of -20% health regen effect applied by damned?

[hollow flint]

you can damn yourself

[abstract summit]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Levovar/character/Flaya btw

[grim rune]

my nihilis is kinda okaish

Btw what rolls we want on these? movement speed and ?

[hollow flint]

i dont even like movementspeed that much on my flay build, you kinda get through the map with flay anyway

[abstract summit]

ms / int / epxerimental ward on missing mana

[grim rune]

so int and ward then

ye ms is overkill tbh for me too

[real turret]

ah ye forgot about ward mod

[grim rune]

what about t7 increased armor XD?

[abstract summit]

bruh

[real turret]

no.jpg

[charred ridge]

k i got uber down to 1m10s with ethical budget gear

https://youtu.be/pYqA2v1ChMs

[real turret]

hmm i wonder if theres any chance you could play phys chaos bolts with aod

[grim rune]

lovely treshhold

[charred ridge]

i was wondering about it too

cold also an option

won't do math now though

[abstract summit]

btw according to Frozen's CoF calculator using "100% reduced of non monolith events" lens in the third slot is better than small lagonian (assuming you dont want to run around like an idiot)

[grim rune]

i hope they rework prophecies in next season

it's so annoying to reroll

[abstract summit]

everything is so annoying with this system lol

[abstract summit]

that's actually pretty budget lol

[charred ridge]

ye thats 3 days of playing lol

[abstract summit]

your idols must be ballers tho to have 2k with the rest of the stuff

[charred ridge]

it's a bit of everything

i minrolled a lot of idols actually

but most of my idols are double mana still

[abstract summit]

ye i spent 200k favour lets see if i get even one kek

still need an acceptable nihilis too

[charred ridge]

i scraped every bit of mana i could

by even slamming a +1 all skills nemesis cus it had 12% mana

lol

[sweet spade]

what's with the manual chaos bolts?

[charred ridge]

keep up mana stacks from the axe

while being safe at range and without proc'ing julra's stardials

[obtuse quest]

Wait

stardials?

[sweet spade]

lmao that nihilus wow

[charred ridge]

of course stardials

they're the best item in the game

[sweet spade]

what's with cdr on belt?

[obtuse quest]

The 4/12 uptime item?

[charred ridge]

cdr is just for mapping

[obtuse quest]

[charred ridge]

you mean the 100% uptime item

because you gotta wait for uber's roleplay anyway?

[obtuse quest]

Oh

[charred ridge]

and because all other bosses die in less than 4 seconds?

[obtuse quest]

In the context of uberroth, that's fair.

[charred ridge]

sound about right

i mean even in the context of other things

this item is broken

bosses should die in less than 4 seconds or you're not using the stardials in the right build

[obtuse quest]

It IS effectively a 4 second burst item every 12 seconds in the end, but I can tell most people wouldn't want to count that crpa

[charred ridge]

they're easy enough to use if you use your brain for 5 seconds

and you have enough gear

admittedly they are much harder to use if your gear is not good enough to just blow through bosses by pressing 1 button

but yeah idk these rings have been breaking the game every single patch without fail since i started playing in 1.0

their main weakness would be infinitely scaling bosses aka high corruption pushing

[grim rune]

bruh that nihilis

[charred ridge]

bro i dont have time to kill another 50 abbys for a +2/12% 😂

[grim rune]

only 17 times

[abstract summit]

im literally about to do the same but with a 11% 😄

[charred ridge]

😂 +skills are kinda overrated on this build anyway

[charred ridge]

blessing rng is crazy this season

[abstract summit]

mostly it hurts in RF

[charred ridge]

yeah

at the end of the day it's just a loss of 10% crit multi per point

at worst

which is good but when you evaluate 10% multi vs 12% mana... quite an easy choice

[grim rune]

ugh

crit multi or 5% more mana xD

[charred ridge]

can reroll that ammy later with nemesis fodder

it's decent just too bad not t7

[abstract summit]

bruh

80 armor

[charred ridge]

or that

marrow shards makes uber like 30x easier

[grim rune]

nihilis drop is so pathetic

[charred ridge]

it's alright from uber

it's hard from abby

[grim rune]

it's 14%

from both ye?

[sweet spade]

apparently

i did 11 eyes yesterday, got 0

[grim rune]

oh it's double 14.29% from uber

[charred ridge]

well you can already see that uber rolls for nihilis twice

[grim rune]

ye

[charred ridge]

and not just that but it's also guaranteed 1lp

in one of those rolls

[grim rune]

whats that page

[charred ridge]

tunklabs

[grim rune]

btw i lvoe how ur budget gear has 2k mana xd

[charred ridge]

well

is anything hard to obtain?

[grim rune]

idols

are pain

or i dont know how to farm them

[charred ridge]

just do prophecies

i literally spent

100% of my favor

on these idols

that's like 600-700k favor

that's how u get them lol

[hot ginkgo]

🤔

[grim rune]

wait u can do weaver idols on prophecies?

oh my god

[cerulean pewter]

yeah at rank 9

[grim rune]

standard lenses ye?

[charred ridge]

i do minor lagonian lens

but u can block non-mono

thats fine too

[lost cliff]

yo guys could u help me a bit idk what to do next tbh

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4ynwz1o

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 84

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (75)

General:

▸ Health: 1,669, Regen: 21.31/s
▸ Mana: 120.43, Regen: 10.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 134%, Regen: 6/s
▸ Attributes: 27 Str / 43 Dex / 67 Int / 12 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 88% / 143% / 74% / 63% / 40% / 82% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 501
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (444)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,474)

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Harvest / Flay / Aura Of Decay / Transplant

[sweet spade]

lp?

[lost cliff]

my bots have lp

[sweet spade]

and the rest...?

[lost cliff]

relic

nist of them

[sweet spade]

you asked, what to do next

answer: get lp on everything and t7 rolls

then kill uberoth

[grim rune]

well that was fast

now to minmax few of them

[unreal hill]

yooo check this out

[charred ridge]

100

[lyric idol]

I gave up on my flay lich for frogs, kinda want to try it again is mana stacking the way to go?

[charred ridge]

yep

[astral kettle]

It seems really hard to get resistences on minions. Is the Blessing with +25% minion resistence a must take if I am playing a pure Necromancer minion build?

[lyric idol]

cool cool ty

[warped coral]

Is the dagger (with 3-4 dex skills) and the all res pen (20-40) worth over another primordial item for Melee Flay? Or a primordial exalted would be better somehow?

[charred ridge]

there's the frenzy belt if you dont care about your defenses

can multiply your damage by up to 13

[warped coral]

gonna look into it, but i do think i will have defensive issues nonetheless

[charred ridge]

you'll probably die to anything that sneezes your way if you really lean into it

but you dont have to lean into it all the way

[warped coral]

how can it multiply by 13 tho?