#💀┃acolyte
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the bleed boots + chalice is nice to have, a lot of dps boost imo
the bleed axe + a t7 dot dagger would be nice as well
hats off to Mike and the dev team, the engine can cope with the procs pretty nicely
Does anyone have a lich necrotic flay/chaos bolt leveling build they are running and can share?
I meant switching to flay
pure flay? good luck
can't believe even with the buffs lich is still #3 on quantity of people playing
you are surprised people are playing meta?
i dont think the devs wanted lich to be the popular choice, like unironically
it's more of a theorycrafters playtoy with lots of things you need to work with or around
Y'all don't think Lich will be meta or near meta? I'm just a pleb, but Maxroll seems to be moving it up its speed farming list pretty rapidly
well, it is the dinosaur season
Is abom or necro minions in good state? Seeing ppl complain about AI on empowered monos
so that makes sense
dino season or not, lich is never gonna be popular as it's not really a brain off build
i mean it has couple of s+ tier builds but it needs investment and careful management of downsides
But I want a brain dead flay build 🙁
harvest is as braindead as it gets lol
not building it tho
Not quite on empowered monos yet, but I've been doing a mostly unplanned vibe built zoo necro with the t-rex and it gobbled up the campaign and normal monos
The new attack mode seems pretty good for keeping the minions proactive
Golem Gorilla 👍
hey guys don't forget to select your guaranteed affix when you seal them 
silly question, but the "removal of base leech" from drain life does not affect other sources of leech correct? and by extension, "spell leech" will affect it due to it being tagged as a spell?
Think i'll get the axe/ dagger/ boots before I figure out if i wanna switch
Wow mana is hard to solve
ignite flay anyone? kekw
Give
if only acolyte had a single ignite passive
Warlock has some
Is there a way to see your minions resistances?
i ain't even mad it's only 3 affixes
is increased stun useful?
they're cool but is there any build that uses them?
rather than any other T8 affix or primordial unique?
just put that on a forge guard and ignite forges trike can use the stun chance!"
OK wtf, rip blood wasn't reseted. It does weird stuff
did you remove a +skill item?
well, a meteor champion wand with bleed to fire can literally hard carry a warlock
no it's a legacy. I didn't connect to that dude since 2 seasons
also idk if you guys already have your primordial item (i don't), so i'd gladly take a t8 meteor wand
what level are you?
77, just hit empowered mono
oh weird, I'm 76 and have been using my t-rex unique for a while lmao
I skipped campaign and went to monos
t rex is cheap compared to others
I'll be able to buy my dagger for flay soon, just need more petals
anyway to get unstuck if im trapped after a movement skill?
tp or logoff
is there any way to get to the hunter without doing like 3 beasts?
new campaign act
yea but where in it exactly?
Do you use the LL items like Exsang with Corrupted Form?
I got the astral blood primordial chest and it's pretty crazy
giving me almost 4k ward with only 1.7k max hp
Is abomination that strong ? I see everyone running it
any aco builds that have sentinel lv tankyness?
are you gull low life, or corrupted form, or what?
lowlife atm. bleed warlock
Is there a bug with dread shadow skill? I skilled that perk that should not drain life any more, but the pets die within 5-6 seconds when I cast the dread shadow on them.
kind of a mix of lowlife I guess. I heal a lot with leech/rip blood
my setup is jank atm
I can never get a decent damage output with harvest
hopefully my situation will improve once I get flay. 30 passive points is a huge investment so it takes a while
would you not be way better off with corrupted form? Or are you not a lich?
until flay, make sure you have bone curse aura - it doubles harvest damage
excuse me, AURA?
YOU CAN TURN IT INTO AN AURA?
that changes EVERYTHING
thank you so much dude
I'm playing a lock
have you tried disabling leech though, seems like it might be worthwhile, i dont think rip blood alone heals that much
I've thought about it but havent tried it yet. Might be worth with the new chest idk
11 points into lich, and you leech becomes a more damaeg multi
yee
I had 500 mana
I have lone watcher but my pets are still drained to death by dread shade. 🙁
maybe this node in the abomination tree?
do i need reaper's mark if i have oppressive gaze
I wish I could get the rip blood node that makes the hp turn into ward without being forced to change it to necrotic
no, not using it on abomination... I just wanted to test some "old build" on Eternal... but the Dread Shade kills my Wraithlord within 5 seconds 🙁
yes
the only time you dont is when you turn it into an aura
cuz it keeps reapplying
you know theres a node that just gets rid f the healing completely right?
It seems like [Lone Guardian] and [Shambling Steel] cancel each other out and allow you to summon archers again.
there used to be a generic skeleton
im confused why though, wouldn't unlimited duration mean that increasing the duration doesn't change anything?
it's already unlimited
you need flat for it
iron skin and some dex
How on earth are people stacking like 4k life for use with Corrupted Form? I'm level 62 with health on just about every item, T5 or above, and I'm at like 1275
that's very low
because it only effects the origional curse
Noted. I just reviewed my gear, I'm actually missing Health on like half of my slots, but without those affixes I'm not res capped anymore
meanwhile the aura reapplies the curse and thereby constanty reapplies all the effects tied to the curse
random drop from rift beast? Does anything use these
Uh yes, they're like BIS for bleed builds
master rage bait lol
yes
lmao I found a pair of those gloves
dont do me like that 😭
hmm I cant screenshot in game lmao
my prnt screen button works fine
mine doesnt it takes me out the game
are you in fullscreen or windowed
aah there we go
yeah they all minimised my screen when I was in fullscreen
how tf is win shift s minimizing ur game kek
does this apply to tethers
oh maxroll made a harvest flay
What build is reccommended to play before maxrolls harvest flay endgame build? Is it possible to play flay from start or no good?
Im kind of dissapointed in flay, the skill says a blood eruption. But the visual is just an exploding ball. I was expecting more of a pillar of blood or volcano kind of thing :/
anyone have any idea why my Abom just isn't leeching damage at all?
i have both the crit leech passive and the base leech passive on the tree
but his hp literally never goes up in monos
So I saw someone was playing a Poison Reaper build, anyone got a link to that?
So is Death Seal just something we numlock? Or how do I go about coping with this short duration.
honestly play w/e, just flay from the start if its fun for you. even if slower
I played Flay from the start but that's because I'm playing in Legacy and had access to my twink gear, dunno how it would be in season
rip blood + shards felt decent as a fresh start
chaos/ fissure is decent
new rip blood was pretty nice pre-mastery
part of me thinks I should swap from rb/marrow to chaos bolts but I kinda want to keep tether. feel like it could scale crazy well later when I actually have more bleed chance
we'll see how it feels going into emp monos but it feels fine atm
doing final normal mono rn
Im doing emp monos with fissure at the moment with some half assed gear
astral blood + ll is carrying my survivability atm
do you need to be a vit stacker to hit 4k+ life on aco
feels kinda impossible
Im gonna try farm up the dagger and switch
would love to be like the ultimate hp leech blood tank but I feel kinda forced into ll
bro whats up with abomination, does it only consume one type of minion now?
the new amulet is pretty good
which one
The rift amulet? Yea man got that during campaign and +2 skills and all res so early hard to replace. Early nihilis lol
I'm still using the useless crappy flower trinket you get during the campaign lol
Petals? Me too lol
yeeeee
Wanted to run a Flay +Aura of Decay Bleed build, is this gonna be a bad time? All the pre-launch theorycraft videos I saw for it, the builders are now running something else entirely.
we have rf at home
rf at home:
I can finally start. Gonna try to level as necromancer
ooo got my necklace
why do i feel like my abomination isnt eating the skeletons and the bone golems
decent rolls. we take those
Hello guys, new to acolyte/necromancer
niceeee
he devours whatever you use to make him and heals
so if I summon more they just get sucked in?
yup like wraithlord
Pretty much yea
hmm that means that if I dont use wraiths to make him
I can still summon more goons
perfect
picky boi
It remembers
I remember there was a node that made him stronger per each unique undead
I will play assemble abomination casting sacrifice with 100% resummon chance on skeletons
Yeesus lol
it feels great with the t-rex giving every summon a flat buff
I have a unique that makes my dudes bleed
so bosses have 100+ armor shred stats and 100+ bleed stacks
also nemesis gave me this
@abstract summit actually
just go ward per missing mana experimental
also forgot about this xd
but that's lmc
well first of all it costs haste experimental so rip
lmfao
I have no other source of ward
I swear I can hear "we must construct additional pylons" when im summoning wraiths
u can easily have like 2k missing mana and reap can go down to 1.5s cd so that's 3000 ward per second
ur welcome
😂
the downside is you have to press reap
but that's ok
hmm death seal no longer deal damage
fuuuu
It used to be my main dps as lich
blood rip fuel spell dmg into wave that deal 25k on a wide area
damn Im gonna go the cold flay I think
are the self health drain passives on Acolyte and Lich good? I feel too squishy
should be fine is oyu have enough leech
yes but no
you need alot more current life lost gained as ward
than the tree offers
also if your a dot build every 7% is 1% more dot dmg
wish it was 5% or 10% just so it would be a flat numbere
those are rookie numbers 😄
I'm playing cold with chaos bolts, AoD and Rip Blood for sustain
but ye this is way better than stupid transient rest
how the f do you craft experimentals now i have no clue, used zero last patch
LOL true
is almost everyone here going cof
im cof
you need the rune prison complex woven echo (drops from exiled mages), this lets you turn a random prefix into an experimental of your choice. so you just have a t7 exalted suffix (preferably two), craft the experimental (you can also craft ms on the other prefix), then havoc the t7s onto the prefixes
cof is based
the only downside is that you have full mana at the start of the echo and you need to waste some but you're a little vulnerable while doing so
i had a grand total of nada rune prison complex wovens all of last patch lmao
merchant guild is UI gaming, screw that
Just a heads up armor shred doesnt benefit bleed
prob just death seal and spam flay on some mob and it should be fine
dont think thats worth using a primordial but very strong tech
it benefits their hits still tho
they won't drop unless you kill exiled mages (a lot of them)
I mean true.
i killed all i saw lol. did not spec into them tho
im a degen only active I have is wraith resummon and transplant
and mind you i did 1200 corr on VK ES, then farmed more to reroll into fully kitted judgement, killed uber abby, farmed some more, and was still missing my last weaver lol
dont have to spec but ye
@abstract summit you going mg?
they're pretty rare but they shouldn't be that rare
i like cof but im concerned about being able to find all the mana idols and shit
hell naw
prob easier on CoF than MG ngl
can just do prophecies
it probably costs like 1.5mil favor to get them all
up to you what's easier to get, 1.5mil favor or 20 gold caps
😂
tbf i would prob still roll around with architect/exsang and ring but then add this to the mix and one of the three layers should be firing at any given time
i also want to try getting a primordial rune dagger and idk how easy it will be to get specific exalted affixes on a specific base
has the new minion stance made a big difference in how it feels to clear with minions?
i dont really understand how imprints work with exalts ngl
just reroll the base for an easy win lol
vs if i go mg i can just buy any specific exalt
is it better to have one more kind of summons or to run bone curse? my brain says bone curse but im a casual
how
isnt that what new envy does
ok cool yes
thats fine too
nvm cof is the move
i think i'll just do the ward boots
im an architect -lol maybe that's why I love the chest 👀 -, we love contingencies lol
you can only get one experimental affix per item right
but jesus christ 25 ward per 10 mana is like
4x as much scaling as a max rolled transient
quite honestly i dont think architect is good because between this and rb you will be well over the ward cap
i would just go exsang even for LL
ye im not saying we gonna roll around with 4k mana constantly while mapping but 2500-3000 is kinda beeg
oh ye i wouldnt do RB with these techs
i would go exsang either way and keep the nest
ye could work
truly disgusting tech shoutout whoever came up with that
every day we stray further away from -god- one button build
or even death seal
yeah
ds might be the move if you wanted to push several thousand corruption
i've been looking at this affix since 1.1 and it's broken every patch and everybody is sleeping on it lol
anyways i will try cof if you guys think its better
only reason i wasn't slamming it in 1.1/1.2 was cus im slamming experimental haste to zoom lmao
but lich seems pretty squishy without and it zooms with flay anyway
its more fun, you get plenty of loot and some of the upgrades are crazy
you can't get both right
so this is the perfect moment for ward experimental
like the one where dropping a set item lets you get all the set pieces
one ex affix per item max?
you can't but even if you could you only have 2 prefix slots so ms + experimental haste
and there's no room for a 3rd prefix
but now ima slam ms + exp ward i guess
he wants to frenzy 😄
you can't**
i might do double
tbh
you are spamming reap and harvest anyways and ms doesnt matter for those
canNOT slam 2 experimentals mb
why does lv 48 abom hit for 15k
oh ok
ms still matters
but ya
You can slam experimentals ?
arent you supposed to be on a holiday or sthing btw
in 7 hours
I’m excited to hear what the cook is
i'll have to sleep as well
ok so we drop the frenzy thing sadly
just slam frenzy on your uber boots
but have ridiculous ward
I just got to level 70 and got the primordial relic lol
no int on boots means not reaching 4100 mana 😭
can somebody tell me why i still dont have a well rolled blessing after killing like 30 bosses
Deciding if I should do the cold harvest flay or stay in mana stack
switch the boots for foot of the mountain if you want
any necromancers I can grill for information here?
dont need rb from army of skin anyways
i dont see why you wouldnt mana stack
so all you lose is attack speed
wait did i actually pick a build that worked with cold harvest flay lol - why is that better than bleed?
i dunno if it's better, somebody had theroycrafted 70-80M bleed flays before patch
I have -10 iq on acolyte so I’m just here to listen to people smarter and more experienced than me
First few levels leveling with skeleton and bone golem feel so slow ngl
quite honestly the main reason to go melee is because stacking attributes = huge dodge chance and armor
so ur durable
the dmg is way lower for sure
but flay doesnt do the damage, harvest does XD its got so much better scaling than flay
i was saying that before release, but I think thats right - they want you to use multiple skills
but hopefully it doesnt get a CD added to its movement next patch XD
its like lunge without the CD 😄
ill prob go cold flay
but wait are the builds going straight damage rather than dot?
Id say straight dmg / crit is more popular at the moment
but bleed is close behind
you can leech with it and the frenzy belt
does like 20mil uber dps
but it's zhp
im doing frostbite atm, but wondering about going bleed - doesnt really seem like i need/want much more pen from the boots, and i just got last steps
All the mana stack planners I see are zhp which is tough
yo you take that back
I haven’t seen all of them! Just a claim on the 3-4 I’ve looked at
i mean ES VK had about 4k ward with that experimental but it also only had 2k mana and no ward retention
ye i mean the glass cannons will have 0 EHP 😄
lich will have 3-4k mana and a bunch of ward retention
so it should stabilize over 10k ward
if you can empty your mana bar anyway
i'd really like to get an experimental slammed today but
dunno if i can find a rune prison complex for that lol
guys , my Abomination is dying all the time , any tip? 🙁
feed it
they need to eat 8-12 times a day during the first couple of weeks
lol
@abstract summit i just realized a big multi we were missing for melee flay, which is the 50% more melee damage against high health enemies from army of skin
we execute anything below 12%, so that means 44% of the enemy health bar takes 50% more dmg
werent really missing it, it was in the 1.8M Volca showcased as he had them as well
and flay also does more dmg to low health enemies
those boots might be worth using on quite a few non-acolyte melee builds just for that mod
like shadow cascade which also does almost double dmg to low life
how?
if you have the same minions out he can eat them to heal
not that you should need it
is harvest still dogshit or just weak early?
I'll go the maxroll cold setup, seems fast af for farming and work towards and endgame mana stacker
thanks , worked 😄
Hey, if I'm going all Poison Flay, will those Marrow Shards also poison?
i lucked out finding this on harbingers early
i agree, my damage went up
should i spec to skeleton warriors or nay
both
no
I figured not, since it says "Poison with the melee hit"
Anyone have suggestions on efficient ways to kill off my skeletons?
marrow shards
skele mage oblation
making it stand in the big red circles
still trying to target farm the tongue dagger 
What is this?
This was useful thank you. First time acolyte player here xD
its basically sacrifice skill but the skele mages can use it and it doesnt scale from sacrifice tree
I remember seeing that once but I can't find it. Is it an item? Skill tree node?
skill tree
its in the summon skele mage tree
its connected to the flat spell dmg passive to the top right
harvest already not dogshit
i did a skele mage oblation build last season that went kinda OK
lol
harvest is now a 1k corruption skill believe it or not. what a world we live in 😄
Shoot, I was looking in the regular summon skeleton tree, thank you. Build gonna be much stronger now. (Going with Marrow Shards!)
harvest is one of your specced skills, you direct cast it, what else you want from a harvest build 😄
the optimal dmg rotation is 3 uses of harvest for every 1 flay, and flay is there only to proc harvest
that seems like a harvest build
how hard is it to switch to harvest flay lich after leveling? would merchant guild make it easier?
how to sustain lich form early on?
Not very, two good weapons with flat on them, and the boots, good to go
Preferably axe+dagger
"I wonder how good Poison Reaper is?"
"...Oh."
do you go merchant guild? or circle of fortune is equivalent?
Personal preference
aura of decay or u just dont
lich will always be drop if you arent leeching and dont have aod
what is more beginner friendly? this is my 2nd time playing, i did COF last season
is the maxroll cold flay a harvest/ flay ?
Cof. Mg kinda good when you know what sells
mind explaining a little bit?
reaper decays more and more over time and you cant regen
so you either need aod to heal you for missing health per second, or be leeching
Yea
@abstract summit
also wouldnt call this a permanent solution
but this does get me to 2k ward in maps
from like
300
couldnt you just use the relic that gives ward on kill?
ty and a way to apply curses on hit? for boost harvest dmg
theres a node that makes bonecurse also become a buff you apply onhit
on the top of the bonecurse tree
Meh
marked for death counts as a curse right
Gloves is too competitive
you can get marked for death from a lot of sources
u dont need this
flay applies marked for death on hit
i do not reccomend speccing bone curse at all honestly
I'm building bleed reaper and the aura of decay is still killing everything
I've never had such an insane leveling experience
ye it's mostly temporary if you're in need of ward while you get the boots affix
my abom just bonked a level appropriate boss for 40% of his hp
im laughing my ass off
im legit just feeding entire gang into abom
and because it doesnt eat mobs midfight
Yeah, the Aura just seems good period. That big green cloud is the Putrescence proc going off lol
you can still print wraiths during the boss fights for more dps
I'm excited to turn it to bleed in a few more levels
and then I won't need to press buttons ever again
@brisk elk but how im suppsoed to fight against the lich degen and being swarmed by 50 mobs
kill or be killed or wut
i mean
Poke, watch enemy just bleed out in seconds lol
well, in normal form i dont have a degen
ward stacking is a thing for lich?
yeah
it's hard to run lowlife without ward
yo acolytes, in lich passive tree has anyone played around with the final passive Accursed Feast? curious if its worth taking as poison dot
any loot filter that i can use?
I'm using it right now, I'm basically unkillable in Lich form unless I take a massive hit to the face lol
At lvl 69 anyway
cool deal i'll test it myself see if I see a diff
And full Poison Lich is also what I'm doing too
thats what im looking at atm
I took Corrupted Form too, to count as always at low health for Dance with Death
what skills do you run on full poison?
I was thinking of doing that but I have the Death Seal sets me to 30% hp and locks it
this is my setup
damn, nemesis let me down hard lmao
sick, thanks. I want to keep poison in the back pocket in case this flay/bleed build doesn't pan out
Spirit Plague and Flay for basic stuff, Spirits if I really need to clear a room
my aura of decay will go crazy
I've not seen any of those red items yet lol
These are legendary, you get them when you do a dungeon and turn a unique with legendary potential in them, or in the case of this one on the pic its wivers will, it turn the unique into legendary as you play with it
Aahhh... So find an Orange with Potential, do dungeon, get Red.
dont forget nemesis egg technically
Pretty simple
Exactly
If you empower a nemesis that has a unique
it'll also turn into red
^ thats what i was gonna type
And on gloves holy
Nature drop?
Well I'm only about to hit 70, but I'll check that out soon
Get out
Wow
Finally had a cat nap, im ready to tackle... Checks notes...
Act 7 😂
@brisk elk less dmg tkaen overtime helps with the lich degen? or necrotic reisstance?
nah
new blood rip is amazing
"reduced health decay" is the only thing
Refresh my memory, there's no way to take a Blue to a Yellow, Yellow to Orange, etc?
also i believe death seal can completely disable decay
Pretty neat innit
orange is unique so no
but you can add affixes to a blue to make it yellow
Mkay, thought not
blue and yello items are the same but yellow has 3 or more affixes
I do miss my 2000% increased damage lich
Not reaper
with death seal
Skeleton mage still tokyo drifting like he's racing The Rock
If aura of decay is converted to freeze it doesn't make the poison nova into some sort of cold nova, does it?
I didn't think I needed to see a swole bee, but hey, LE told me otherwise lol
I forgot how annoying harbis are to fight when you dont just 1 shot them
The praying mantis thorn whatever hit like a freight train
Gives me older wengari vibes
why do they hit so hard at 100c 
How much health did folks playing Lich have before switching to Corrupted Form?
Harbys? Or the thorn aholes
harbs
at 2400 hp at start of empowered monos and corrupted form feels godawful rn
3.5k ward and I'm getting hit for 2k autos. I know my armor isn't that high but still
Harbys are just the weirdest difficulty spike in the game
They’re way tankier than the content that surrounds them
how does lich actually work with big hits, does the damage overflow to your human hp bar?
Ye
making me miss my old basher rn
perma stunning harbis so they literally cant move
I just miss being a class with secondary defense
no armor / no eva feels so incredibly bad
it was brutal man trying to start monos
even monos are totaly fine. it's just harbis
I tried to do lagon first in empoweredso he and his harb wouldnt wall me later, but I'm not strong enough to do them first either lol
5k phys hits on attacks that already missed me but the hitboxes linger are absurd
anyone have reccomendations on a easy to put together build
tried doing cold flay and it sucked
bleed flay clears well but the class is just squishy
i want to run bleed convert with the carrion gloves but they are hard to get so idk what to do until then
just play bleed without them, buy the dagger from him in the meantime
what dagger?
its such a low chance which isnt a bad thing tbh but its so random to farm
wish you could increase beast chance more
me too
velocyns jaw
the 30 percent is too low
I'm using the ward chest atm and I'm afraid I'm just gonna get 1 shot without it
i dont have any mats rn
+4 dex and a ton of pen, and I took off the ward chest c it made me too squishy with the half hp thing
yeah bleed is strong
yeah i have no idea how to get tankier
i had to get to like 1300 health just to feel ok in the first mono with ward
everything felt super rippy
any super important nodes i should take or just any bleed i find on trees is fine?
bleed flay rn but its like half bolts and rip blood, flay just makes the clear insane
I'm not smart enough to take advice from
I've just been throwing together my build as I go
feels like I'm hardstuck behind this dang harbi tho
maybe I ditch the catalyst and go shield for now
I think endu threshold is what I'm missing, but no idea how to get a lot of it quickly here
what's your armor / HP
2.8k hp, 700 armor, 600 eva, but only lvl 80 rn
nah, armor is what you are missing. a lot of it
ppl undervalue how important it is when not playing STR chars who just get it inherently
believe me I get it
is it worth the 8 points in the passive tree for it
but idk how to feasibly build more of it when an aco body gives like 190
double armor blessings from empowered monos as a start
everything feels much better afterwards
flat from passives
and yes i would abs pick up flat armor from passives when starting out
4/INT in reaper form
this is prob a required 5 pointer too
in my first empowered mono rn, no blessings for it yet but its in the plan
ye starting out as a caster is def hard, i also always wanna bash my head in on new mage builds lol
but it gets better
in reaper I have 950 bc of the flat int, but its all gearing to actually get defenses rn instead of having base stats and passive tree giving some
even my int is only like 50, so its not doing a ton for me
that's lich for ya
what curses do you take then/
feels real bad compared to primalist / sentinel and even compared to sorc tbh
I'm up to 1275 armor now changing my passives a bit
to be completely candid with you, yes, yes it does
i completely agree lol
really undervalued quick fix is popping on an isadoras binding belt btw
I've got a few xd
from where tho?
seems like I have 5 atm
bone curse
anguish (applied with bone curse. in lock passives)
wither (lock passives)
torment (fissure)
decrepify (amulet)
marked for death?
i have this rn i just specced it from cold so i only have 10 points in
if you can solve durability exsang negates phys aod downside
bottom branch, get res and less dmg taken
still waiting for a single exsang to drop
this is my aod rn but I greeded for more ailments over more tankiness. getting 150 stacks of bleed on a dummy just from aod rn
I should probably put more into res
still got 2 shot by harbi xd
they better give us some form of defense next patch
not great
wait really D: D:
defense is brutal
I was so excited
def better as a 2nd build imo, needs some gear to get tanky but the clear is phenomenal
thats what we are talking about rn
Defense is fine imo
what are you taking then
necro is ok so far, no deaths yet
also which one we talking, warlock lich or necro
i need help in defense department im talking lich
Warlock is probably still great i imagine
Lich was hard for me to get off the ground in my last playthrough, even with Stygian
getting my ass beat by harbis atm and not sure what I can do to make myself tankier
yeah i def shouldntve league started it
Necro I dont like snapcasting and needing to make it all work based on that mechanic
so lich warlock are the only 2 im really looking at
necro abom is very bugged rn even with snapcasting removed
yea no snapshotting anymore
I mean, personally I was never a fan but not everything has to "speak to you" for it to be in the game so im kinda sad its gone for those who liked the expression
so what i'm hearing is Warlock, buffed?
Necro, buggy? But is it better or worse off than before
Lich, just a big question mark?
You have int to armor conversion with lich form. Int to dodge in skill tree. Transplant give bones armor with a 70% uptime. Dark seal is insane def layer. Most idols give -% dmg over time effects, you get wards.
whatever lich is now has to be better than what it was before right? stygian i was hard stuck with the class and it made me lose my drive to play i felt no progress :/
- infinite leech and delayed hit damage from rare and bosses
mugu yea all of those are dope but all of them require gearing to actually be strong, it's just hard on league start
only took like 8 attempts
like if you have a bunch of int + life gear I'm sure it scales super well, but having low int and no % armor (not even % inc life) on tree means you need some decent gear to get over the hill
can someone tell me why my abom is dying when i use potion
I mean you just grab any +int you see. You should have int equal to level
the node that sacs a minion almost always kills abom
on a normal leveling
Decided to swap marrow shards with rip blood, my damage seems meh or am i missing something
oh lmao didnt even notice i reached the breakpoint on that, was just trying to stack int
You can cast marrow shard with ripblood on multi hit
where are my t7 chests with %inc hp at
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/harvest-lich-guide
im just following this guide, but i swap the transplant tree with a rip blood one
Does this league get better at endgame? everythings just feeling like a slog compared to last season. Fissure warlock doesnt seem great.
Doesnt feel as good as previous seasons. Doing my usual build, Necro resist stacking ailment fissure.
Well warlock was untouched
I know, but it seems like mobs got buffed and it just isnt as fun.
Mobs do be hitting kinda hard
Plus this league mechanic is kinda ass. Ive killed like 40 of these primal beasts and I dont even have 20% of the bones I need for these gloves.
some of the primal item cost differences is wild
friends costs 10k bones and a buncha normal mats, ive gotta spend like 56k bones and 2 hearts to get mine
How to show UI again?
Getting 80-140 bones per miniboss isnt it. The primal area is always the same too. Its all good, Ill wait for POE2 0.3 and just play LE next leagye.
I clicked on something and the IU was removed
Looking
I think its Delete
Tis that yes
Doesnt it scale? I was getting a lot more.
I just googled it btw, googles great if you have any questions about things,
What's google
Its a knockoff of Ask Jeeves.
Maybe it does, but whats the point of doing it if from levels 1-90 its giving you 1/10000th the ammount that endgame would. It all just feels kinda pointless and one note.
I think i'm gonna make a chaos bolt warlock
Yeah I can feel that.
You still get the other ingredients tho and a chance at uniques
You'll be swimming in bones in no time, it's been only a day and a half
I havent had a single unique drop, only these bones and feathers, and I have like 4k bones, and oyu need 18k to buy the cheapest items.
Theres a guranteed unique thats good for leveling if you finish a lineage
Iirc
Great one at that yes
I did finish a lineage and didnt get anything 🙁
All 4 tiers?
Oh yeh I did get that
+1-2 to all skills, resistances, move speed...
I finished a lineage early hoping to get it and no luck felt so bad
Loving the new lich changes so far. Is there a passive specifically for 2 handed weapons/axes though? I know they got a new dual wield passive but I didn't see one for 2 handed
Dont think so.
Aww shame. Fair nuff, I think I can still get away with using a 2 handed axe at least just won't get any fun bonuses
aaaand another one
i just noticed ... rip blood no longer gains mana costs from anything lel
before it would gain cost from blood splatter
now it just starts at 3 ... can be lowered to 0 ... and can have its cost repeated with repeat casts
With mana feast, shouldn't you be able to get decent mana recoup?
it's so troll we don't have a way to convert marrow shard into necrotic
each orb will give 3
and it can get a bunch of orbs
on a boss tho you can only get 1 orb and 9 mana back
ghosts just don't have bones
its also still tied to only working on manual casts
so not even blood overload can save you
wish hematology also scaled mana feast
acolyte needs more buffs tbh
Hmm, would rip blood as a main skill be a horrible idea? Phys based
probably
it would be awful
you do get 9% base crit buff now ... but no dmg
Is it clear issues or damage that would be the problem?
both
both
you could do a bleed setup but you probably wont wanna mainly cast rip
well if your using blood teather you will
I was thinking crit based phys rip blood with bone curse
true
cuz it can be scaled by the flat spell dmg buff
aura of decay with bleed immunity
I think you can dual wield marinas and the ghostmaker dagger
You can probably use the new gloves to stack a pretty high amount of bleed to scale blood tether
thats a crazy amount of flat
that's kinda what I'm going for but I'm also not smart enough to properly build around it. what do you recommend? I'm trying to farm the bleed gloves atm with no luck
Lemme double check I was theorycrafting soemthing pre league
Leveling flay lich. How do you maintain mana? I always played mage so I could always solve this problem with skills.
you dont
I'm doing rip blood/marrow shards/fissure/bone curse/aod/fissure as my skills. I can already get a good amount of bleed with bad gear
mostly just struggling with survivability atm
I dont have anything specific but I had some idea like this. Honestly id drop the wandering spirits stuff but yeah https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0kMx0GA
Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3
Acolyte (20) / Lich (82) / Warlock (8)
▸ Health: 1,102, Regen: 29.6/s
▸ Mana: 104.51, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 78%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 39 Int / 2 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 54% / 34%
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 220
▸ Armor Mitigation: 6% (138)
So if I wanna stuff my pockets with uniques and what-not, monos are my best bet for hunting, yeah?
but you just stack tf outta necrotic
and hope tether does work
buff your boss / rare rip bloods with flay
yeah just doing content in endgame basically
👍
make sure to do nemesis when you see him
Yeah, I poke it, guy melts to my poison stuff almost off spawn lol
nuts!
profane veil
you could dip into lich for mana regen gives armor % node too. But just make sure you are crit reduction capped somehow
and yeah just skill issue
gg
I'm gonna try a warlock soul feast build using bone curse aura
h good luck
nothing changed this patch so I assume yes
the more things change the more they stay the same
Does Bone Nova from Sacrifice scale with Marrow shards tree?
is it worth full clearing if I'm trying to farm beast rifts or should i still just leave asap
in monos?
leave prob
ye
I dont think league mechancis happen more than once per area
would the primordial item blue feather band be good on a lich? for ward?
it could be, but you gotta build around it more
and its probably easier to just use something else
which primordial itme would be good for lich then?
mine will be a cold damage build mostly
there are generically good ones but also you ahve to check out having a T8 instead
the chests are just good in general im pretty sure
Holy jeez bear is busted.
Astral blood seems pretty op yeah
How so? Got an example?
I'll see what the abom can do to it
I just had a scary realization. my filter may have been hiding the gloves this entire time lol....
I was using the same filter from last league
Ok I do actually want help solving this mana problem
time to update my filter :^)
Stopping dps to regenerate mana is miserable
yeah good reminder. I was so confused on my first lineage why there wasnt an ammy lol
are you hunting experimental?
hunting the bleed gloves
ah
they're quite rare, I wouldn't worry
how necessary are these nodes on flay lich so far, or am i better just purely speccing to lich tree?
very good for bleed flay
can i offer you a 40s uber kill in these trying times?
bleed overload kinda huge
That’s crazy
Does the converted bleed from Carrion of Creation counts for each tick of Aura of Decay or only the "base" bleed counts? And what about the Lake of Blood node inside Profane Veil? This node says you deal 1% more damage for each 10% global bleed, does only the "base" bleed counts for that? Or all ignite/frostbite/shock/poison/damned converted from Carrion also counts?
gotcha, 4 more levels ig
now the effort to put this together is def not in the same ballpark as a bear build, but it is what it is 😄
since im going bleed, removing cold to go to bleed nodes should be the go to no?
wait do you have a guide i can look into, fixing my tree now
I dont have a bleed flay setup sorry
you might be able to find one if you search in here
lots of ppl were sharing
hey quick question i just got to end game with my abomination but he is soooooo squishy i have to keep feeding him some skeli how am i supposed to keep him alive with out the feeding part?
Engorgement (at the bottom of the tree) makes it pretty tanky, but you have to feed it 4 minion types (skeleton, mage, wraith, golem)
alrighty thanks!
Nothing seems out of order, there, THOUGH, it might be killing itself with Contaminated Dreams?
Trying out Necromancer, I find that I don't like the feel of Abomination that much, but that's ok because I DO enjoy the feel of just having a horde of other minions buffed by T Rex
Did you try messing with its AI? (hotkey 2 to make it aggressive)
does summon flame wraith share a limit with summon wraith?
gonna try that
not happy with spell acol.. decided to go necromance.. fire golem and fire archers and fire mages with zombies
Yeah but its still limited by there just being one of it instead of 20+ other minions running around stacked full of speed buffs
My build is to get as many melee minions as possible than stack attributes for T Rex buffs
Yeah, having an army is fun, but abom is... so so good... it's hard to give it up for me
That's a good idea, did you look at the 2-set piece of the last bear's set?
Yeah the T rex item just seems insane for minion builds
Maybe Dread Shade is killing it, too
o.o
ok so the dream thing is one problem solved but made me realise the souce of all the probleme he ain t leeching at all
i m confused
Well, the necro node requires it to crit to leech, the abom itself's tree has a non-crit leech node in the upper part
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one
and also i have 2 points here which don t require crit
Do you have Pernicious Pact in your Dread Shade tree by chance?
how lich used to be before the "rework" ? like im just leveling and feel clunky
nope
Lone Watcher? Are you using Aberrant Call (the weapon)?
How is Warithlord this season?
depends how you level with it but yeah its always been behind the other 2 masteries in terms of ease of leveling
Ive had 0 issues with it doing DoT and just using chaos bolts
i thought that was goign to be adressed on the rwork tho
any more idea @buoyant bear
Are you... automating Sacrifice somehow? 😅
nope lol
Marrow Shards? Otherwise, I'm all out
What's a thing that prevents healing/leeching... for minions
does this mean that i have to kill the monolith boss, or just random drop pool as long as im within the timeline?
random echo reward type
Echos spawn in that specific timeline with a chance at a Unique/Set, the node looks like that on the monolith map
looked at every tree with leech in the filter and nothing of the sort came out
Yeah, I had a look at items, nothing either
Are you using rezzing skellies to make it really fat?
I'm having the opposite problem, I'm trying to get mine to die (or be at low health for Flesh Harvest)
Is it Endurance Threshold or Endurance (percent) that counts towards T Rex buff? I thought it was the latter while Last Bear gives the former
Is the all minions summon build bad? Don’t see anyone running it but abomination ones
hey guys so this is my first leauge i kinda idk what am doing could i add someone in game and ask them questions when ever am stuck or something
it's %, correct
on aura of decay, I see everyone taking fume weaver, is that feasible with a high int # somehow? Since int is dodge, ward, damage, and armor, it seems like that'd be a massive penalty to overcome
I dont mind, never underestimate just asking questions in here or the #❔┃ask-the-community channel though
ty but having in game is faster
PSA for potential abom enjoyers
if you are in combat you can still summon things it ate
it will only eat them out of combat or when low
protein
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q97e88Zo
Asking here too cause you guys are more familiar with necrotic damage.
Think a necrotic damage stacking swipe build would work?
Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3
Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (30)
▸ Health: 1,341, Regen: 132.09/s
▸ Mana: 124.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 67 Str / 19 Dex / 11 Int / 12 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 7% / 7% / 7% / 7% / 42% / 21% / 21%
▸ Endurance: 46%, Threshold: 502
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (336)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (2,035)
None
is there even a BM build where swipe is the main skill?
i think there was one but even with everything it's kinda ass
not sure why would you do it even non-necrotic lol
the giga part of the shared affix is not the melee damage, that is the same -or actually slightly worse- than any other flat melee type. the cheese is in the added necrotic spell
so what would you use that spell on?
So does endurance threshold do more for me than just defense? Also it only applies to health and right now I have a lot of ward per second from all the minions
T-rex+Cleaver solution just seems so obvious
Yes, that's the other part to this
Found a Weaver dungeon, this place is neat lol
Look out for the new idols you can only find there
Yeah, I upgraded one of my existing ones at the Altar
now we need a veloceraptor conversion for crows so we can go full primal
why not raptors?
because raptor doesnt care about int while crows do
Mana is now much better on flay for me
The real question is cold harvest better or mana stack proc everything better
how do i get the carrion of creation gloves? just kill the beasts? or some special setup
but raptors scale physical and still benefit from strength
cool thanks
leveling pretty slowly since I just started and taking it easy but minions felt so bad till I got necro mastery
owo +2 on first primal ammy and 1lp
it's saul goodman now
real talk, WHY are crows int? primalist already has dex, str, attunement as scalings, why throw one random int skill in?
well its not int
its just
they give the int buff so that having 50 int for double lagon buff is cheaper
basically thats the only int tiein
ye it is super weird
just me and the boys
Is there any uniques I should be fishing for as an acolyte minion build
with rune of ascendance
fish for fish
depends. the item database has rune rates
Is there any point in a build that uses both Harvest and Flay?
no
bonk
im sitting at +8 to all minion skills
goddamn lol
and the results are... hilarious
violence
only to proc the boots army of skin with flay MAYBE, and even that sounds sus
can't you use flay to proc chaos bolt to proc harvest
actually yeah I'd run flay on any harvest build for speed clear and army of skin stacking
anyone know if making a Lich build with Death's Embrace is a good idea? I just dont see it work compared to dual wielding for +8skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUaYpgeAmqg that uses both, though im currently trying to make something without those damn boots, feels like im forced to play them going lich
I thought triggered skills couldn't trigger other skills? so if your flay triggered choas bolts, the choas bolts couldn't trigger anything?
Corrupted form doesn't trigger always low life effect for lich. Does anybody else has the same problem?
not me
Does it stack if few golems?
Gotta love getting a Unique for another class lol
what chaos bolt guide
its just not under the acolyte guides when you click on build guides anymore
I'm stuck between harvest flay lich or chaos bolt lich. imma probably do harvest flay because it uses flay while i farm for endgame aspirational flay stuff
ascendance runes if i want the flay boots i just need to use the rune on any kind of boot right?
abom vs normal aberroth (30s kill): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcOWr-pxBFc
did you guys do all chapters before endgame?
up to heorot for idol and passives usually
im going to act 10 to see what the new act is about
kaiju battle
lol
exsang lol
me dying to frostbite by AoD everytime

So do Dungeons give more stuffz than Monos or they're just there to upgrade a Unique?
dungeons are a little different in le
some have specific uniques
temporal is done to make legendaries
most of your time in endgame will be in monos
Ahhh, gotcha...
I've got a pile of keys on me, so I'll have to get around to 'em eventually
yep! if you're cof you can also get prophecies that require you to do certain dungeons
that's usually where I end up using mine
also if you cba and got plenty of keys you can make an item that lets you skip to final boss
What flavor of abom are you guys using