💀┃acolyte

[lyric bough]

what are some good ways to self cursed for pearls of the swine?

[obtuse quest]

Bone Curse's Aura node, Fissure's self Torment.

[lyric bough]

ty!

[finite galleon]

Hybrid health is often the best one, but it's not guaranteed. You can always plug it in LE tools and compare with percent health on belts for example.

[ember wren]

is lich viable in hc? or warlord would be better>?

[obtuse quest]

Are you scared to see your health bar rollercoaster?

[ember wren]

if no ward, then thats pretty much a gamble 😄

[obtuse quest]

You're lich, you're most likely never playing ward.

[ember wren]

so its pretty much a gamble?

[obtuse quest]

You get 33% DR and a 2nd health bar, if that helps.

[ember wren]

but if theres a lich build that doesnt use... the other form ? 😄

[obtuse quest]

Why wouldn't you? If you don't use either Death Seal or Reaper Form, why are you playing Lich?

[ember wren]

dont really like lich form visuals xD

[obtuse quest]

Then you lose out on a 2nd health bar and a good chunk of generic buffs.
But that's not that big of an issue if you use Death Seal, tho you'll still be weaker than builds that run both.

[ember wren]

so i guess its better to run warlock then... or necro 😄

[pearl snow]

Yep nearly all the useful low life nodes of lich are available to warlock and necro

[ember wren]

i guess necro is better starter than warlock?

[pearl snow]

Both are good league starters

So both level nicely

[ember wren]

got these on the previous run so using harvest.. warlock is kind of full range right?

[pearl snow]

If you dont want to go lich low life resper stuff because that has a ton of useful necrotic nodes. Then yeah warlock is your next best bet

Warlocks just wanna hit stuff that are cursed so stack curses and harvest basically

[deft scarab]

if im warlock planning on focusing spells, do i want a wand?
and, is focusing spells a viable warlock build or should i be split focusing spells & melee? and in that case id want to use a staff/1 hand staff thing, yea?

[obtuse quest]

There's only one melee skill in acolyte's skill set, so you either focus on it, or don't focus on it.

[lost gale]

for levelling a warlock you probably just want to go big on fissure

[deft scarab]

yea ive been playing around with fissure

so wand & offhand is the best option?

[lost gale]

with a random assortment of gear, not many skill points and an incomplete passive tree fissure just works

[obtuse quest]

Considering every other skill is a spell or minion, yes.

[lost gale]

firestarter's torch is a goated levelling item for ages btw

[deft scarab]

ok thx! just learning the game, sorry 😅

[lost gale]

it's very common so not at all unreasonable to find one

[deft scarab]

does this game have like added drop weights to weapons your character can actually use, or is it all just random global tables?

like im getting an abudance of heavy melee weapons n stuff i would never use lol

[lost gale]

what level are you?

pretty sure it's just global tables

but something like a 2h axe with fire damage & chance to ignite could be totally usable while levelling for a warlock

[obtuse quest]

Most items do not have a class requirement, so there's no weighting on those items. Items with class requirements (Helms, body armour, and relics) are weighted to 80% drops of your class.
Unique and set items do not have any weighting, and 70% of them are classless.

[deft scarab]

ah ok so prefix/suffix matters much more than whatever the base stats are for a weapon type for lvling phase- how long does that last before ill need more focused gear?

[obtuse quest]

Most of the time affixes matter more.

[lost gale]

pretty much, though there are some base types with really fantastic implicits for levelling, basically all through the campaign ailments are going to be very strong

[ember wren]

is this enough for early all round fast filter? 😄 so far it blocks all rares xD

[lost gale]

I think you have to tick all the affixes you care about, if you leave 0 then it'll still hide everything and the hide all normal/magic/rare should be at the bottom of the list

bottom of the list things happen first and top of the list last, so if you hide something above a rule which should show it then it gets hidden

[north lance]

Damn it, my life can't escape the fate of controlling my mana

[lost gale]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/rDQ91ZQg try this, it's a good starting point and probably good enough until you've learned more of the game

[ember wren]

bottom is 1st? thats dumb XD i always asumed the first is 1... and that "show all items with >=4, means to actually SHOW all items that has more than 4tier 🤷

[lost gale]

ah but it's show all items with >=4 tiers of these particular affixes, not all affixes

[deft scarab]

lmk if you find a good solution :P

[ember wren]

why it has to be so complicated 💩 should be an option to choose "all items above # tier", done

[obtuse quest]

You can always choose all affixes-

[lost gale]

because you make a loot filter once and then it just works so the more options/control you have the better

[pearl snow]

If you want a specific lootfilter writeup I got on too

But yeah its like a 1 and done thing usually

Lootfilters are 99% of your game

[finite galleon]

[lost gale]

I've yet to see someone publish a good generic MG filter, though I haven't really looked I suppose.

[pearl snow]

Oh for MG thats a whole nother monster

Apparently Raxx claims he made one but I havent looked

[ember wren]

kind of looking one for ALL. so it would show ALL gears with useful rolls, but all of them focuses on a single class/build 😄

[finite galleon]

I'd rather end it all right here right now than try to keep track of what's worth the most in the current meta

[pearl snow]

Yeah we dont have PoEs filterblade

No datascraping the mh

Mg

And auto updating your filter

[pearl snow]

So an acolyte specific filter

[obtuse quest]

The default rule for filter making for LE is that filters are made on a per-build basis because each builds needs totally different affixes.

[lost gale]

yeah

[pearl snow]

It wont be uber strict but you could do it

[lost gale]

the maxroll fellas have been saying their filter generating tool is really good but I haven't really checked

[pearl snow]

LET generator isnt awful either

Its just so easy to make

And you gotta tailor it all anyways once you hit a certain point

[north lance]

Balancing both drain life and mana pool control, I've finally given up on my Stygian Coal Lich character 🙏

Back to my beloved Torment Warlock

[lost gale]

what if stygian coal warlock with tons of ailment on hit

and int obvs

[obtuse quest]

You'll still want to keep your mana high for the damage mod-

[lost gale]

if spamming is better DPS than high mana for hit/crit builds then surely it's also better for ailments?

[obtuse quest]

They run the same theory and playstyle basically was my point.

[lost gale]

yeah, fair.

I wonder if it's possible to scale spreading flames & plague enough to be good clear at ~3-500c and have good single target somewhere else

probably just ends up worse than witchfire no matter what you try to do with it

[pearl snow]

I did that with flame whip

Ran flame whip used Shade for clear

Lol

Witchfire proliferation is automatic cant beat it though

[lost gale]

when the self-hit build wasn't dead you could use ruby aegis to get absurd amounts of %increased poison/fire which would pretty much make plague & spreading flames the ideal thing to use

but you could also just run past stuff with an unspecced snapshot aura of decay and clear monos at high corruption so idk if that really counts

[ember wren]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnE4OR9A guess this one is HC viable? 😄

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (26) / Lich (8) / Warlock (79)

General:

▸ Health: 2,717, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 206%, Regen: 68/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 9 Dex / 31 Int / 1 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 56% / 81% / 81% / 54% / 153% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 543
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,185)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Chaos Bolts / Profane Veil / Rip Blood / Harvest

[obtuse quest]

Admittedly, I don't know. I don't play HC, but it looks like it.

[ember wren]

firestarter can be ascended only from brass scepter or any?

[obtuse quest]

Any scepter, this applies to all random unique drops.

[lost gale]

any scepter

[ember wren]

nice. failed both xD

[pearl snow]

I have big doubts on that. YOu have no real defensives

No layers, No ward generation

only 2.5k health at most

[ember wren]

The vid shows 8k ward, dont know from where 💩

[dark inlet]

does Grim Tide on Cthonic Fissure (more damage per added Crit Multiplier) apply to Chaos Bolts that replace Spirits? And if yes to that, would it still carry through to ailments applied by those Chaos Bolts?

[pearl snow]

No

[dark inlet]

alright, thx

[ember wren]

2handed firestarter 💩

[zinc jay]

I got chest+4lvl drain Life, does its good?

[vivid monolith]

Don't think it is really that good, but it is cool lol

[vivid monolith]

are you using drain life? Sort of depends on your build, like most things

[zinc jay]

No 😔

Just curious if its good or nah

[vivid monolith]

I don't know if there's any build that doesn't want +4 to its main skill

but +skills is literally useless if you aren't using that skill

[robust bramble]

Frankly the one build that use drain life is the stygian beam one, and actually many nodes on that skill do not even apply to the beam so you actually don't need yhe +skills XD

[ember wren]

it made my fissure dmg go up by 2x XD

[vivid monolith]

to clarify, good in the long run*. It obviously works as a decent stat stick, especially for its level

I just don't know if the stats it has are good enough to justify using it over other uniques/exalted bases at higher levels

I've used it on warlock and on sent for leveling before 🤷

[vivid monolith]

Does the affix for Melee Damage Leeched as Health do anything for minions? Keeper recommends it in his Wraithlord guide and I'm trying to figure out why

[robust bramble]

If he takes one of the Lich nodes that convert leech into 10x damage that might be why

And maybe there are nodes that convert ％Inc damage to minion damage?

[vivid monolith]

Nope, one point into lich for int lol

[old hull]

Like, the glove affix? No. Even if you convert leech to damage in lich that does nothing for your minions without something else like lethal concentration to make that help your minions.

[vivid monolith]

On Usurper's Mandate, for some reason 🤷

[old hull]

if you link the build/guide, maybe we could figure it out, but could be a typo

[vivid monolith]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/keepers-wraithlord-necromancer#equipment_stat_priorities

[stuck owl]

Keeper's Wraithlord Necromancer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class

Acolyte / Necromancer

Used skills

• Infernal Shade
• Dread Shade
• Transplant
• Bone Curse
• Summon Wraith

Used unique items

• Wraithlord's Harbour
• Exsanguinous
• Usurper's Mandate
• Blood of the Exile
• Death Rattle
• Ambitions of an Erased Acolyte

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Arena / Minions

Created by keeper184 · Feb 20, 2025, 1:21 PM

[vivid monolith]

LP recommendations for Mandate: Melee Dam. Leeched as Health, Parry Chance, Minion Spell, Shared Necrotic Pen

One of those things is not like the others

[old hull]

Yeah, it does literally nothing for the build since you don't even use/proc any melee attacks

[lost gale]

I think it may be that there's just no second prefix which is actually good

they're all personal damage/crit prefixes

[old hull]

You'd be better off with the mana and mana regen affix, not that that would help a massive amount either, parry still better 3rd affix

[lost gale]

in his planner he has T4 leech on a 4lp

oh yeah mana/mana regen is better but I don't think the build is terribly mana constrained so it's a bit of a technicality

[old hull]

You do want to avoid damage affixes that could buff your infernal shade, that's pretty much the main thing

[dark inlet]

with Maehlin's Hubris (bleed chance -> ignite chance) how does this interact with Increased Bleed Duration and Increased Ignite Duration? does it scale with both? only bleed? only ignite?

[old hull]

Nothing happens to your duration stats, ignite still only scales with your ignite duration

[dark inlet]

Ok, thx

[drifting idol]

Soooo when do i start to do normal abby

[pearl snow]

if youve killed all the harbingers then whenever you want

[drifting idol]

Yea but in terms of build power

[pearl snow]

if you feel comfortable inside cemeteries around 300 corruption

[old hull]

Also if you can complete the 10-harby echo, you are probably fine for Abby. idk the best way to know for HC though

[pearl snow]

I bet for HC its like 500cr because you want way better gear

[drifting idol]

What is HC?

[pearl snow]

Hardcore

[gaunt abyss]

For ppl who are very pro or have to much free time

[pearl snow]

or masochists

[drifting idol]

👍

never gonna try HC tbh, i am more chill gaming oriented

[vivid monolith]

Would an oops-all-ailments / witchfire warlock want +4 fissure on chest, by chance?

[pearl snow]

It wouldnt be a bad thing. Witchfires best chest affix is Damned on Hit though

+4 is good for % DoT and scooping up some extra nodes for DoT stacking or resistance shredding

[vivid monolith]

Is there a fissure build that wants the +4, in particular?

I assume whips doesn't actually care that much since you can get +9 on spine

[pearl snow]

Yeah whips only cares about frequency

Torment likes it

[vivid monolith]

How's Torment's clear?

I basically want to just do what I did when warlock released: vomit ailments 🤷

afaik witchfire helps alleviate what might be one of the 'typical' DoT issues when clearing, which is the annoying build-up; that's appealing

[gaunt abyss]

its good, i havent really got to far with mine but if feel nice

i followed the maxroll guide

[vivid monolith]

to be clear, I play CoF (and I don't farm uber, because I don't care to roll an objectively overtuned class just to slave away there lmao) and probably only push alts to 500c/abby

[gaunt abyss]

he can do that preaty good

i killed abby on my 2nd try (frist kill on him, never got to him)
the dot killed him, i died to something in the last stage

[vivid monolith]

lmao

[gaunt abyss]

ya was funny, but it does tell you how good turment build is

[pearl snow]

Torment has great mono clear

[vivid monolith]

...Could you theoretically use Wheel of Torment + the witchfire relic at the same time? lol

[gaunt abyss]

i think we talked in the past, go torment OR witchfire, dont do a hybrid it will just hurt you

[pearl snow]

Torment suffers a lot if you just do wheel. Witchfire is by far better to just throw in

But yeah overall focus 1 or the other

Torment scales super well with crit multi and Witchfire doesn’t so you end up splitting your gear too much to excel at 1

[twilit flume]

starting to get good

[kind forge]

lol

[pearl snow]

Every scaler tag in the world

[finite galleon]

damn, didn't know short range was a tag too

btw tevonsonte why is it that your pfp alternates between

a couple and a dog all the time

[pearl snow]

I’m going to guess Discord isn’t doing well at supporting my LE specific pfp

Lol

[finite galleon]

Yes, these two messages display two different pfps, kinda funny

[pearl snow]

What an interesting dox courtesy of Discord

Kek

[finite galleon]

[deft parrot]

Just do as I do, and just full-send everything without a filter, and get in trouble 24/7.

No additional pfps, no alt accounts. That's beta behavior.

[vivid monolith]

Man, kind of annoying there's no way to add flat minion health as an affix--only Aaron's Will, the yucky golem armor, seems to have it. Want to give my Wraithlord a bit of extra flat hp (to help the %hp out) so that resummoning him isn't as... frequently necessary

(I used Aaron's as a stopgap between some garbage exalt and my Wall of Nothing and damn he stuck around so much longer lmao)

(I know int works, also, but that's not a ton of health added, onlyy 3 per point)

[calm dome]

Does the Hollow Lich node prevent stuff like Drain Life and Blood Tether from leeching?

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJrJ42aQ any suggestions how improve build?

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 84

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (70)

General:

▸ Health: 2,438, Regen: 357.08/s
▸ Mana: 165.8, Regen: 13.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 249%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 72 Str / 1 Dex / 72 Int / 1 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 61% / 71% / 73% / 76% / 218% / 70%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 488
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,000)
▸ Block Chance: 69%, Mitigation: 45% (1,472)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Infernal Shade / Dread Shade

[vivid monolith]

I would, but I see you're doing something different than what I do with WL, so can't really offer much advice 🤷

though you can very easily take flame wraith node for the more dmg

[pearl snow]

It might, it removes the leech from Fissure

[obtuse quest]

It removes all leech, but not things that say “health gain”

[nimble berry]

boys im a little lost, so im looking a cthtonian crack, the spirits are related to the "wandering spirits" or they are their own thing same goes for the upper left part where it can cast chaos bolts, does my chaosbolt tree make the ones comming from the crack better or they are vanilla CB

[lost gale]

your CB tree impacts the fissure CBs

[nimble berry]

so its for "hitbased" upgrades for a CB, with no extra triggers

[lost gale]

it can also refresh curses

if you have those nodes

[obtuse quest]

It does. It effectively takes the whole tree that doesn't say "Direct cast". THis includes it being able to proc Rip Blood, Bone Curse, and Harvest.

[lost gale]

oh, my bad

[obtuse quest]

Yes. They take everything that doesn't say "Direct Cast"

[nimble berry]

ok, should i lean into necrotic or fire? is there support for both or one ends up being lackluster, i have been looking up builds and they are usualy very legendary heavy

not just acolyte i mean, but all arround

[obtuse quest]

Depends on what you're doing, there's builds that do fire focus, there's necrotic focus, there's also both focused.

[lost gale]

you can also convert bolts & fissure to phys and focus on bleed, which I haven't tried but is meant to be good

[nimble berry]

there are so many conversions its a headache

its nice when you know what you want and have a bigger picture but starting the acolyte uuuff

[lost gale]

if you just get generic Damage Over Time mods then you'll probably be happy enough with how it goes to start with

[gritty cargo]

If infernal shade fire

[drifting idol]

think i need to up my defensive stats

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZVLz3XB

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (11) / Warlock (77)

General:

▸ Health: 1,705, Regen: 25.3/s
▸ Mana: 177.98, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 281%, Regen: 291/s
▸ Attributes: 7 Str / 15 Dex / 43 Int / 7 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 146% / 123% / 108% / 78% / 138% / 291% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 341
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (827)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Profane Veil / Spirit Plague / Bone Curse

[drifting idol]

max HP? armor?

[gritty cargo]

You could get off of lowlife and play pale ox

[drifting idol]

not playing necro tho

[gritty cargo]

You'd get 400 ward per second if you are aura cast bone curse

[gritty cargo]

Pale ox is juiced even without the 28% to minion damage deferred, and you get that bonus up basically always with a point or two here

Strongest chest in the game

Unless you're Lightning res stacking for the lightning res = mana Regen chest on some builds then that one would be better on those builds

If you're auracast bone curse you can have your unspec transplant on your bar without leaving a skill behind

[drifting idol]

🤔

think i will just slam my LP items rn for 300 corruption

[silver night]

guys, help. Which one should i use?

[drifting idol]

beefed up myself for 1k more ward, lets see 💀

[drifting idol]

can you activate bone curse aura and AoD in the same time? would be hella funny

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[drifting idol]

might try it tbh

bone curse aura costs mana tho, mmm 🤔

[cinder knot]

Hello for Wraithlord user like me I need some advice how to mitigate life loss with wraithlord with infernal shade? So I dont need to snapshot. Thanks

[slender ibex]

any stygian coal licher that knows if anything but necro dmg and int matter? since im assuming my drain life doesnt count as channeling anymore?

[obtuse quest]

More minion health, have as low personal spell damage as possible, give it leech.

[obtuse quest]

Only the implicit matters.

[slender ibex]

thanks mate, made my life loads easier

[cinder knot]

I got this 2 minion health regen what do you mean by personal spell damage? how to give it a leech? thanks

[obtuse quest]

Basically "%increased spell damage" and "int"
Minion leech is found in necromancer passive nodes.

[austere lichen]

on warlock werent you able to refuce the cooldown of profane veil by spamming a certain skill? i don't remember which one it is exactly

[amber fossil]

hey there any tipps for my current build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Viktona/character/Samisthra
Im trying to follow that guide here, doing 700 corruption atm
https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/welcome-to-the-naughty-list---crit-stygian-coal-lich

[stuck owl]

Welcome to the Naughty List - Crit Stygian Coal Lich Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class

Acolyte / Lich

Used skills

• Rip Blood
• Transplant
• Drain Life
• Reaper Form
• Death Seal

Used unique items

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Stygian Coal
• Pearls of the Swine
• Grasp of the Blood Mage
• Orian's Descent
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer

Created by Lohk · Nov 2, 2024, 1:29 PM

[drifting idol]

cof prophecies are hella nice ngl, they are making up a lot of what i am lacking lool

[cinder knot]

Imma try to get some int in the boots and other stuffs thanks!

[obtuse quest]

Profane veil has a node that reduces its cooldown when you use a skill with a Curse skill. It's not part of the base of Profane Veil.

[pearl snow]

Ignite on hit most likely

[drifting idol]

wait can you stack +9 to skills if your skills is fire over time

👀

[obtuse quest]

Which is ghostflame and infernal shade.

[drifting idol]

yeah but could you get to lv29 then

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

Oh converted hungering souls as well.

Convert Profane veil I guess?

[drifting idol]

maybe i should just play that build instead goddam it looks juicy 👀

[obtuse quest]

Skill levels do not have a hard cap if you gain them via affixes.

[zinc jay]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6q1zj8o any suggestions how to make it better?

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 89

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (27) / Necromancer (70) / Warlock (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,216, Regen: 699.92/s
▸ Mana: 133.95, Regen: 8.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 67%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 47 Str / 1 Dex / 11 Int / 1 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 64% / 78% / 74% / 69% / 106% / 153% / 57%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 523
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (41)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,408)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Infernal Shade / Dread Shade

[gaunt abyss]

you playing like health regen?

[zinc jay]

yea , minions never die , feels great

[gaunt abyss]

for youreself

how you stay alive?

[zinc jay]

Just running around the map

That's how don't die

[gaunt abyss]

im not an expart, but you can get better idols

and some of the equips look wired to me, but if its work its work

[zinc jay]

Its not bad , just doing 350 corruption

But need way more dps

And hp for me

What equipment looks weird?

[gaunt abyss]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/keepers-wraithlord-necromancer
i follow this, it is from lsat season

[zinc jay]

My chest give me+2 lvl skills and bunch of health

[gaunt abyss]

in general need like 4 affix: minion health + damage, hybrid health, int

for my build at least

i still need to push more corraption i just started the build a faw days ago and have lot of stuff to fix

[gaunt abyss]

the relic, like how much to you cast?

[zinc jay]

Relic price?

Or what kind

I just see some builds using that relic, thou its good

[gaunt abyss]

my man read what the relic do, for some classes and builds its great pice of gear, it take you the next lvl.
for necro its useless

even just this base will be an improvment

ive now notice you have t7 str on the relic, why?

[versed epoch]

Anyone able to tell me why I'm having trouble summoning 4 gholms for the snap shot'n of abom summon?

[austere lichen]

gotcha, ty

[obtuse quest]

Do you have aaron's will and have at least a max skeleton count of 12/ Twinned Golem+ 8 max skeletons?

[versed epoch]

i have the aaron's will with +1 to skeles, where is the list for how many skeles you can summon?

[obtuse quest]

Pen and Paper.
Here's the possible count:
3 Base.
3 from skill spec.
2 from Necromancer passive nodes.
1 from Necromancer mastery bonus.
2 from 2 hollow fingers.
1 from +1 max skeleton rare chest affix.
1 from Profane champion affix.

[versed epoch]

ohhh profane champion affix I'm missing that...could that be why i just cant summon 4?

[obtuse quest]

The possible count here is 13, so missing 1 should still give you 4.

Make sure you got +1 max skeleton and NOT +1 Summon skeletonn

[versed epoch]

dang it i just noticed it's summon skel not max

bah figured it out I guess

thx for the help @obtuse quest

[calm dome]

If I ran bone curse aura with penance amulet, would the self hit loop between you and your minions cast rip blood from my minions if I took the Merciless node, Acute Infliction node and Crimson Enlightenment node?

Basically does penance proc the 4 hit max on bone curse aura when you take that node between you and your minion? Or even just yourself and enemies I guess

Since you inflict penance on both yourself and enemy with bone curse aura

[zinc canopy]

ask chat gtp

[vivid monolith]

why bother typing this

[zinc canopy]

why knot?

uwu

[gritty cargo]

It takes 4 hits when outside the aura

[calm dome]

Yeah that's fine. So it works though?

[finite galleon]

Am I stuck in a time loop, or did you type this exact message several days ago?

It is probably a good sign that there's someone thinking I've purposefully edited my video to make damage numbers appear bigger

[drifting idol]

man this whole bone curse aura thing is weird

not sure if i like it lmao

[thorn grove]

yo, if anyone could provide feedback on a build i've been throwing together, essentially just Ghazzy's wraithlord build but low life and also learning more heavily into inc necrotic for minions, feel free to rip it apart as i'm just messin around here and suck at buildcrafting lol
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZVwpwlB

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (29) / Necromancer (74) / Warlock (10)

General:

▸ Health: 2,810, Regen: 26.4/s
▸ Mana: 145.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 282%, Regen: 64/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 35 Int / 1 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 86% / 86% / 81% / 74% / 101% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 562
▸ Dodge Chance: 10% (300)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (834)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 136%

Used skills:

Summon Wraith / Dread Shade / Infernal Shade / Transplant / Bone Curse

[drifting idol]

i might just join in on the flamewhip thing

[drifting idol]

finally reached normal abby after 90hr...

man i should gear some more lol

[silver night]

nice

I just can kill normal abby after reach lv 100 and took 150hr. My skill issue too big

🥹

[vivid monolith]

Hey, you killed him, that's what counts

[pearl snow]

Arn't you on Witchfire? Normal Abby should go just fine. Long-ish fight though

I believe in you

[pearl snow]

Thats hilarious because why would the number be 30mil if it overflowed lmao

[silver night]

yes, i tried so many builds from duoble overload, summon skeleton and etc but the flamewhip is the one who very op for this patch

kinda proud of myself abit

[old hull]

I think I'll see if I can get him with skele rogues this season

Looks promising, we'll see though

[fathom hamlet]

Not sure if this is the right group, but anybody got any ideas on how I can craft this for max profit to sell on MG? T6 dread and T7 dodge, empty prefix + t1 sealable fire res.. What would be the best T7+T6 combo I should aim to get from this? Thanks in advance btw guys haha

[obtuse quest]

Other than the fact that the affixes are rare as hell and that missing hp to ward doesn't work on minions, nothing much to say.

Oh also, since you have both shades specced, read Scales of Lemniscate again.

[thorn grove]

it was my understanding it was one shade as in you're limited to applying a single shade of each not one alltogether, that kinda sucks cuz now that means i cant apply both to the wraithlord meaning much less cast speed

[obtuse quest]

One shade means ONE shade, no matter which one. Not one of each, wording!

(You're not the first nor the last to make this mistake)

[thorn grove]

i suppose i can just further copy ghazzy's setup with the weapon

[thorn grove]

#❔┃ask-the-community message
tbf i did ask for clarification but didnt quite understand ig

[obtuse quest]

They didn't tell you the fact that both shades share their max count, so by default you can only have 5 shades (of either shade) total.

[thorn grove]

oh

this is news to me lol

well the weapon swap isnt too big of a deal i suppose

[obtuse quest]

It is technially "hinted" at the nodes that increase their max count.

[thorn grove]

basically the only diff is the survivability relies on ward gain between this and ghazzy's

[old hull]

The shared max for shades is so odd, you'd think they intended to have more shade skills at some point lol

[thorn grove]

does the health lost/s affix on the gloves still drain their health even tho it doesnt give ward? i only have that on there to further buff my ward regen

[obtuse quest]

Iirc it straight up doesn't do anything, so at most it's a empty affix.

[thorn grove]

also just to check, a minion can have both shades on it at the same time right?.... if not that kinda defeats the purpose

[obtuse quest]

Yes, assuming you have the shade max count to do so.

[thorn grove]

yeah i swapped to usurper's mandate

as for the rare affixes part yeah... lol

those rings are gonna take forever to get prolly

i already have the belt and a few 3lp exsanguinous

but i also feel like this is the kinda build that performs at least half decent without perfect gear

the wraithlord in general, not "my" build

never done minions before so it'll be fun

[vivid monolith]

Wraithlord is just so strong, courtesy to the massive amount of more damage you get

[thorn grove]

yeah i saw on its spec sheet it's 89% more

[vivid monolith]

Dread shade factored in?

[thorn grove]

no that 89% is the base more damage that the wraithlord minion has

[zinc jay]

Hi , what i can change here to do better? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXqEREbA

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (28) / Necromancer (71) / Warlock (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,300, Regen: 734.42/s
▸ Mana: 226.48, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 113%, Regen: 260/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 1 Dex / 3 Int / 1 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 96% / 92% / 77% / 124% / 129% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 540
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (41)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (802)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Infernal Shade / Dread Shade

[pearl snow]

what are you struggling with?

[zinc jay]

Doing 350 corruption, clearing fine , but sometimes lacking dps and surviving

[pearl snow]

survival wise, necro can be rough but you arn't resist capped and still take 50% extra dmg from crits.
Dps wise Usurpers could be better. It can also get Parry Chance for alittle extra survivability.
Julras is good for dps output if you use it well, but A well rolled Minion Ring may just be better

I'd change your Age of Winter Blessing to be the Armor % roll

Your Idols could be a lot better

Health Regen ones are good for you but theres a couple that need some help

[zinc jay]

Resistance capped all

[pearl snow]

Hmm mine only shows 60% roughly on all

maybe mine isnt calculating something

[pearl snow]

Yeah mines not calculating something for you

but the rest I said applies

I'm not a fan of Blood Pact on necro at all

And Blood Aura is usually better spent on the Forbidden knowledge node for Necro

IMO

[zinc jay]

Maybe you click here , actual are fine

[calm dome]

I feel like I come on here to ask a bunch of questions cause I am planning to do acolyte as my second character but indecisive on what to build towards

[obtuse quest]

Depend on what style you like honestly

[zinc jay]

Well its my first necro ,so can be better

[zinc jay]

What's that?

[pearl snow]

Your Acolyte Passive Tree, the starting nodes

[zinc jay]

Aa , okay, so i need change it ?

[pearl snow]

It'll help a tiny bit. The Blood Pact one does nothing for you im pretty sure

[zinc jay]

Probably i need only minion stats

Minion damage, minion health and so on

So where i need put that point on passive?

[calm dome]

It's more along the lines of I want to make an acolyte build I haven't seen yet. I played Warlock and Lich and it just feels like bland

so I just keep asking about interactions

Bone Curse Aura w/ Penance amulet and running Bone Golem retaliate is on my mind rn

take the rip blood node on bone curse aura to automate the blood splatter buff and also another thing to proc retaliate on bone golem

if I take the rip blood minion targetting node

[obtuse quest]

Last I known bone shatter from bone golems are bugged, no clue if it’s fixed yet (bugged as in it doesn’t proc at all)

[zinc jay]

I see wraithlord builds can up to 1000/1500 corruption

[pearl snow]

I think Keeper is still playing it and hes like 4-5k

[obtuse quest]

Keeper has hit 5k with it yeah.

[zinc jay]

But for me i can't up more than 350c

Can easy put bosses to 75% and destroy first ward of them, but after that dps going slow 😔

[pearl snow]

Chaos Bolts really doesn't want to be its own Hit Dmg build

[silver night]

guys, should i use this ring? Or the invoker sorching is good enough?

[pearl snow]

For?

[silver night]

playing flame whip currently

[pearl snow]

set is usualy best there. Unless you get that 3LP with like Ward Gen and Necro res. Maybe Int

and if you already have crit reduction elsewhere

[zinc jay]

Crit reduction important?

[pearl snow]

very

[jagged thistle]

man.

harvest kinda blows

[zinc jay]

How to get 100% reduction

[jagged thistle]

i think t6?

[zinc jay]

My boots give only 45% reduction

[pearl snow]

Get it as a suffix

Gloves, Chest, Belt, and boots suffix

[jagged thistle]

is it t6 or t7 that can roll 100

[pearl snow]

None of the crit reductions roll that high

[silver night]

alrait, i'll use the reforged one for now

[obtuse quest]

Yes. Gear dependant basically

[jagged thistle]

im gonna keep fiddling, theres a bleed build in there somewhere

[pearl snow]

Bleed Harvest does well

[obtuse quest]

I hope you’re accounting for bleed overload

But yeah it’s a okay setup

[jagged thistle]

lich with bleed overload, yes

[jagged thistle]

that sword up there's max value for the suffix is 100%, it rolled 92

[pearl snow]

very very few acolyte builds run 2H

[jagged thistle]

i was just sayin, you said the suffix doesnt roll that high.

i was initially thinking that minion affix was ass, but blood spectres exist

[obtuse quest]

I think the original guy wqs talking about the armour versions of the affix, since they’re named differently.

[jagged thistle]

gotcha

[obtuse quest]

But the stuff they apply is based on their stats and not yours-

[jagged thistle]

minion damage goes on minions

[obtuse quest]

Oh, i meant on the ailments context.

[jagged thistle]

oh theyre just fluff

[obtuse quest]

Oh lmao

[jagged thistle]

im debating farming leviathan carvers to plop that sword on to

or just a good sword catcher

i think macahuitl upgrade is bleed dur too

maybe i creation it so i can use it in case plopping it on another sword is worse.

[obtuse quest]

If you want to go away from 2h, you got taste of blood and eulogy of boood

[jagged thistle]

i don't, because i make poor life decisions

my last build was crit focus

[pearl snow]

Flayers Pride Shield too

[jagged thistle]

eulogy and flayers pride were tempting

[zinc jay]

Actually why when i do less than 700 healing, my wraithlord with infernal and dread shade die superfast

[jagged thistle]

i don't particularly like taste of blood without LP, if i could get one with decent lp and get some bleed damage on it, maybe

[pearl snow]

I wasn't doing Harvest Directly but with CB procing Harvest and being a lock. I found Taste to go kinda crazy

1Lp with Crit Multi slammed on it

[jagged thistle]

yknow thats not a horrible idea.

[pearl snow]

Doubling your bleed speed is pretty powerful

[jagged thistle]

nah when its triggered rather than handcast it gives the stack count a chance to go somewhere

[pearl snow]

Also true

every bleed being half duration essentially may be detrimental

[jagged thistle]

thats a pretty solid idea ill look into it. getting the dex will be the only annoying part but thats whatever, ive had worse issues (like being able to see anything because crit focus has given me glaucoma)

[jagged thistle]

cant overload when stacks arent rhere

[pearl snow]

true

CB has so many hits so it also lowers the dex requirement

[jagged thistle]

yeah and it can apply bleeds, which triggers overload, which applies bleeds and bleeds per second

lord give me the strength to not do the things i know i should not do

[pearl snow]

Ive been trying for weeks to get big bolt to work

farthest Ive gotten so far is 150k crits but that only happens with a double dmg proc

I dont think crit is the move, been trying just flat hit dmg

but damn is it rouhg

[jagged thistle]

that gate node does synergize with blood wraith production, hmm.

[jagged thistle]

max out exult in misery?

[pearl snow]

yeah, I had 25 stacks of self torment. and all the dots

even had a Spoon on

something just isnt quite there

[jagged thistle]

as my ancestors once said, on the battlefields of india many years ago

skill issue

[pearl snow]

LOL

not wrong

[jagged thistle]

since 100% chance is pointless id need to math out how much dex i would need to guarantee that 3 harvests per second

then id need to make rip blood not make my mana bar return to monke

i took lich for reaper form so i can oh shit button my way out of a one shot

[slender ibex]

stygian liches, u guys value the ward, cast speed or the hp the most? id assume ward hp is more valuable since idk how much more dps i get from cast speed other than Ig more mana with rip blood?

[obtuse quest]

Do you use Death Seal? If you do, you do not use this relic at all except as a health stick.

[slender ibex]

I am using a deathseal, im following the guide and it basically says im using this relic with 16 int slam till i can get shattered worlds x.x?

[obtuse quest]

That means it’s using it as purely a health and int stick. The ward affix doesn’t matter at all. The cast speed is a minor bonus.

[slender ibex]

ah okok fair, crazy that a relic is only used for that and the next upgrade is an uber item

but alright will keep in mind thanks 😇

[marble palm]

Engage those brain cells or give us some more context

[silver night]

which one is good for witchfire flamewhip?

the twisted is like on recomended relic on the guide

[near hearth]

how to make abomination not decay ??? i already have 6+ skeleton or mage, but the abomination still decay regardless i already take age of undeath node skill

[obtuse quest]

You DON'T want to have more than 6 skeleton or skeletal mages.

[near hearth]

so i summon abomination and then summon skeleteon or skel mage not more than 6 right??

[obtuse quest]

Correct, and that it checks both combined.
Eg: having 4 skeletons and 3 skeletal mages means you have 7, and abom starts to decay.

Ideally, you don't summon them at all, and let abom do all the work.

[near hearth]

it still decay, i summon 4 mage 2 skel

[obtuse quest]

And now, it's time to check your uniques or other effects, like a unique staff.

It also starts decaying if your max skeleton or skeletal mage count changes after summoning it.

[near hearth]

wait i will try, so max skel also count to what trigger decay, sry for my bad english

[obtuse quest]

If you CHANGE your max skel count after summoning abom, yes it will start to decay.

[near hearth]

it still decay @_@

[near hearth]

so my max skel is 6, max mage ar 4, i chanel abo to consume them all, and then abo start decay even i dont summon skel/summon 4 mage 2 skel

[obtuse quest]

Any uniques you're wearing?

[near hearth]

tolmac and reaching grave wand

it doesnt give skel max count, just give skill level to minion skill

[obtuse quest]

Hmm, I got no clue so far then, do you have a planner link to your build?

[drifting idol]

witchfire yeah

i am eyeing torment though, holy malatros looking juicy with all the skill points

[near hearth]

ah i see, so the max count for skel and max coutn for mage include in what trigger decay

no more than 6 included in max summon

[drifting idol]

how do i dodge abby slam lol

[slender ibex]

the triple slam?

he hits always front right left so if ure front of him u can run to his left (ur right) and then to the front after he hits front

if ure on the side just evade or traversal skill to the back of him. I generally like to fight him close by cause the slam gets a bit annoying to dodge if ure far away

[drifting idol]

the big shockwave slam

[drifting idol]

got him to 36%

think imma chill today loool

[zinc jay]

Any difference between acolyte mastery?

[obtuse quest]

Lich focuses on life,leech, and a rollercoaster health bar.
Necromancer is undead minion focused.
Warlock is the DoT, curse, and proc master.

[zinc jay]

Which one better? Or there no weak side

[obtuse quest]

Lich is one-dimensional.
Necro is the only minion spec.
Warlock is decent.

But all acolytes have one similar problem: They have a required skill dependant on your spec.

[zinc jay]

Main active skill depends on class

[obtuse quest]

Kind of. Basically if you don’t want that specific skill for the mastery, one will ask “why not use that skill?” no matter the build.

[zinc jay]

I see

[rich bay]

Warlock is a lot of fun; everything just melts

and it gets good really early on, a decent league starter I'd say

[zinc jay]

Can he kill uberroth?

Relic from him kinda nice

[rich bay]

more than likely, I haven't taken my warlock that far

Though I've never farmed the end game through to the corruption part of mono's before

I usually get bored before that

[zinc jay]

Lol 😆, i up 1400 corruption with void knight right now, and wanna push acolyte as well

[rich bay]

lmao, I've heard void knight is basically playing the game on easy mode - that said, I'm pretty sure my Warlock could cruise to uberroth easily enough

Might just have to prove that 😄

[zinc jay]

But uber unreal

Seems i miss something

[obtuse quest]

Are you sure? According to the data EHG has, 21 liches cleared uberroth while only 8 Warlocks cleared ubberoth

[rich bay]

Oh interesting, I didn't know that - no I was just assuming

[zinc jay]

https://youtu.be/qn80RIxEONg?si=psVqN7OuqdrYI7ik

This build looks interesting

[obtuse quest]

Flame whip warlock. Godlike against bosses, utterly suffers in clear as the cost.

[zinc jay]

But he didn't show the gear and so on

[obtuse quest]

Someone has a guide on it

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/infernal-flame-whip-warlock

[stuck owl]

Infernal Flame Whip Warlock Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class

Acolyte / Warlock

Used skills

• Chthonic Fissure
• Infernal Shade
• Bone Curse
• Transplant
• Profane Veil

Used unique items

• Boneclamor Barbute
• Exsanguinous
• Last Steps of the Living
• Soulfire
• Hand of Judgement
• Chains of Uleros
• Spine of Malatros
• Pearls of the Swine
• Throne of Ambition

Tags

Boss Killer / Arena / Beginner / Ranged

Created by Tevonsonte · Mar 17, 2024, 7:35 AM

[zinc jay]

Judgment gloves?

[obtuse quest]

Because he’s crazy for the fire pen.

[zinc jay]

Interesting

[frigid lintel]

Is there are ways to get more?

[obtuse quest]

No, not on acolyte anyway.

Your only choice at best, is this.

Only gives you like 100% frostbite at best.

[frigid lintel]

Currently trying to cook frostbite build for each class and it seem Acolyte have only 2 options:

• ChaosBolt with Harvest on Hit node(all because Morditas' Reach exist)
• Minions build With converted shade and ChaosBolt

[frigid lintel]

Well, It's not that bad, considering amount of minions you can have

[obtuse quest]

It’s also not that good considering ailment setups will hit faster and with more stacks per hit.

[frigid lintel]

Fair

[obtuse quest]

The harvest one is… okay I guess? You just don’t have any cold support since acolyte has… none of it except on necro for some reason, and it’s only on one node

[frigid lintel]

Reach+Shackles+Showdrift+Blessing will give me like 800% FB chance:

[obtuse quest]

Which is why I say it’s okay.

You can get the chance, and the hits.

Harvest’s only problem is that most of their “more” modifiers are all hit only

[frigid lintel]

Hmm, true

[obtuse quest]

It only has a single more damage node that isn’t hit only, and it’s the same node that refunds you mana and boosts minion damage which only procs every 13 hits

[frigid lintel]

And mana isn't the issue

Need to check one thing

I hoped for Melee tag for CB, but no

Which is fair - but sad

[frigid lintel]

Tbf - I don't really need to spec into Harvest.
But - there is no much else to pick

[obtuse quest]

You’re starting to see the issue

Harvest also cant be converted to cold so it can’t get help from anything that looks for “cold skill”

[old hull]

Just wait for S3 for cold lich to be a thing

[frigid lintel]

Surely

[obtuse quest]

I wanted to say cold reaper form maybe has a use but that’s just chill so lmao

[frigid lintel]

Well, I saw it initially, but I was hoping that maybe I was missing something.

[old hull]

I wouldn't be surprised if AoD's cold conversion applies frostbite, not sure what else we'll see. I think we've also seen a cold conversion for death seal now, maybe.

[frigid lintel]

Yea, it's just chill, for some reason

To be fair - Acolyte Frostbite situation is still better then Sentinel one

[old hull]

Sentinel can hit a million times per second with multistrike + that spear, at least

[frigid lintel]

Hmmmmmm
||Forged weapon + Multistrike?||

[obtuse quest]

Multistrike being decent now was not on my bingo list before 1.2

[old hull]

As soon as they revealed the bladestorm rework

[finite galleon]

I see this as a testament to my basedness

[pearl snow]

Frostbite is heavily gear reliant for Acolyte which means you gotta take really awkward items to get more of it

[frigid lintel]

Which is why I mentioned Reach+Shackles+Showdrift+Blessing

[pearl snow]

Yep, I’m probably checking out my own version again after failing Hit based bolts

Theres also set items too

[frigid lintel]

Last Gift of the Mountain?

[pearl snow]

Yeah for self ailments

I think there was something else too

I have to check later

[frigid lintel]

not really

[pearl snow]

Oh Vial, yeah thats one kinda a dumb choice

but lol

[frigid lintel]

But you have to choose between Reach and Vial

[pearl snow]

True, extra 5 on harvest is big

[frigid lintel]

Problem is - harvest node is capped to 3 per second

[pearl snow]

15 + whatever other hit chance isn’t awful

Other problem is we severely lack cold or frostbite Pen

Bleed has a million Pen

Ignite can get a nice chunk

[frigid lintel]

How exactly %pen work?

Like - do you need more that 100%?

if not - then Snowdrift will easily fix it(1000% freeze rate is 100% frostbite pen)

[pearl snow]

You can get above and it helps out. It can basically dip their dmg taken into the negatives

Bur snowdrift might be enough

[old hull]

The frostbites on harvest are significantly weaker than the ones from CB

[frigid lintel]

The thing is - you use Harvest through CB

[obtuse quest]

Damage nodes from skills don't transfer to procs that have a spec tree, so that doesn't matter.

[frigid lintel]

Initial skill damage applies to Frostbite damage?

[old hull]

Might be better off just focusing on the CB ones anyway by using a weapon that actually boosts CB

[obtuse quest]

Skill nodes that say "More damage" that doesn't specify hit, apply to ailments caused by that skill.

Example: CB's Doom's Vindication's first damage mod, applies to all damage, including ailments applied by CB.

[frigid lintel]

Now I know
(for some reason I didn't think it worked like that, thanks)

[old hull]

The DOT per missing health will probably be the main one, in addition to just applying a lot more frostbites between multi-hitting and ignite conversion

[frigid lintel]

So, it has to be low-life frostbite build

[frigid lintel]

For example?

[old hull]

Pretty much yeah, there's not many options for frostbite scaling on acolyte atm. Still spreading a rumor that it might change in S3 though.

[old hull]

For starters, a weapon type that can roll increased ele DOT. There's frozen ire sceptre which is popular on frostbite, for a specific example.

[frigid lintel]

For ele DoT you have to use Wand, hmm

[old hull]

Yeah or staff

[pearl snow]

CB has a crazy amount of “more” too

Granted I’m still in hit based mode

[frigid lintel]

There is also an option to use Rip Blood via CB for even more hits

but Idk

[pearl snow]

That one is very nice too

Rip blood can give ward gen

[frigid lintel]

But i'm not sure if simultaneos int+dex stacking is even that "great"

[pearl snow]

Actually maybe cold hit based CB works

Its not but for ailments its fine

Ailments dont care about your int

And with CB you only need 50dex for reliable procs

Since you have a bunch of projectiles each with their own hit

[frigid lintel]

Fair, but you need same amount of the int in addition to that

+-

[thorn grove]

at what point should i swap off of this firestarter's torch, or should i try to slam it with added damage

[pearl snow]

Your tree has a good chunk

If you get 50/50 int and dex

Pretty good

Super reliable at that point

[frigid lintel]

So we go warlock, and spec:

• CB
• Rip blood
• Transplant
• Maybe even fissure for some amount of free CB

Harvest itself doesnt really worth of spec

[pearl snow]

Agree

Veil is nice defensively if you have dex

Ward per dodge

And you can get the increased dmg to curse node. So even if you stacks are falling off they do more damage

[frigid lintel]

Seems good, but what about fissure?

Cause I'm not sure if it's worth taking just for this:

[pearl snow]

Fissure you can just do spirit frequency and CB procs

For your purposes its more frostbite

So prob

The spirits dont do much for you outside that

Theoretically you can remove fissure for Bone Curse or Spirit Plague debuffing

Since they are also a curse

But Fissure adds a curse and does more CB

[frigid lintel]

CB can proc Bone curse "for free"

[pearl snow]

Yeah every 6 seconds

Curse has Mark on Hit, Armor shred chance and chill chance. Can do kill threshold too

Bone curse has*

So it can be pretty useful on rares / bosses

[obtuse quest]

Wrong! Int's damage mod gets passed down to ailments as well, like a generic "inc" modifier

[obtuse quest]

Fissure casts CB which those CB can proc whatever it can proc.

[obtuse quest]

Depends on build, for witchfire as an example, it can be a BiS with the correct stuff and setup.

[pearl snow]

Uh oh

[frigid lintel]

You mean "scaling" part of ability?

[frigid lintel]

Fair

[pearl snow]

Increased int it is

[obtuse quest]

Yes. The scaling thing is passed down like a generic inc damage mod. EG: a skill that scales with Str, Str will also boost ailments that skill applies.

[thorn grove]

i'm goin for wraithlord, just leveling rn, the dmg has fallen off

[obtuse quest]

Wait, a minion build has zero reason to use firestarters.

[frigid lintel]

So, not I have to, somehow, calculate softcap for Dex -_-

So I can put rest to Int

[thorn grove]

well lvl 1-20 it's been clearing packs in 1-2 hits without minions, past 10 has been mostly minions

[pearl snow]

Well should be easy, with a small amount if increased area for spells CB is slmost guarantee’d to hit all proj - 1

[obtuse quest]

it should have been swapped off ages ago as a minion build, as soon as you stop attacking yourself (Which you shouldn't be doing as a minion build most of the time)

[thorn grove]

:evasive: I can't use other server emojis but that one is most appropriate here

[pearl snow]

[frigid lintel]

something around 35 should be enough, I suppose

[pearl snow]

Sounds about right

[frigid lintel]

Does this change fissure placement?

[pearl snow]

Yeah, instead of being in a line in front. It travels you along the line as it generates

[frigid lintel]

(thinking about ditching transplant for bone curse)

[pearl snow]

Tbf transplant is purely for Bone Armor or Kill threshold / fear so

100% preference

You can get bone armor on kill from bone curse

[frigid lintel]

Well, at least I can try to use something other than Transplant for once xD

[thorn grove]

transplant is a great skill, prolly my fav movement skill in the game

tho smoke bomb is a close second

[frigid lintel]

it's great, but you(me) have to try other ones to appreciate it even more.

[thorn grove]

i havent used teleport this season but i've used shift, smoke bomb, lunge, shield rush or charge, i think that's it

the fact that transplant doesnt use mana is such a nice subtle bonus

[keen prism]

any flames of midnight wandering spirit build?

i dont use acolyte a lot

[thorn grove]

anyone know how effective minion armour is, or can i drop some points from increased minion armour to put into armour shred chance for them to increase their damage

like is 575 armor gonna make much difference compared to 460

at areal level 100 460 armor is 14.7% to physical and at 575 it is 16.7%

[vivid kernel]

trying to reach the tankiness of the average sentinel be like

[finite galleon]

Come to the dark side and stop worrying about minion tankiness altogether Piggy

[thorn grove]

i mean, rn my wraithlord will have like alltogether 90% damage reduction and 25k health and like 50% damage leech

i just wanna get to lvl 65 so i can start this actual build XD

[finite galleon]

damn that was removed fast, noice

[thorn grove]

idk the rules on pinging mods for stuff like that

glad it was smited fast tho lol

[finite galleon]

seems like we should be able to snap ping, but i couldn't find the ping mods option

[thorn grove]

or just dont click the links and only protect yourself

[gaunt abyss]

what you guys think on aronarg wriathlord guide?https://www.actionrpg.com/last-epoch/guide/67ba94d451be59bd14964566
i feel like he way harderr on the defance then keeper build

[vivid monolith]

Keeper explains that at 5k corruption you get one-shot anyway

[gaunt abyss]

i wonna go to like 500-700 or so, what will be better?

[vivid monolith]

I'm not looking at whatever you posted on mobile so I have no idea

[old hull]

You can ping the @ Moderator role

[finite galleon]

Aintnoway he just casually put four large idols in there with a pair of exact enchantments at t7/t3 That is so much harder to get than a 3LP Exsanguinous

Anyway, this doesn't strike me as super tanky, but it's not squishy either. It's like uhh, you still gotta dodge those nasty hits with long wind-ups around 700.

But if you're hit by some random volley it's fine, imo

[thorn grove]

the acolyte ww relic seems quite nice for high corruption, gaining even 2% of an enemy's max health at high corruption is still a decent amount

but i'm concerned you have to be closer than is comfortable to the enemies

[gaunt abyss]

its ward ya not health

[thorn grove]

yeah i was confused why it's bad haha

the endurance is wasted tbf

these class ww uniques are really nice

the rings for leveling are awesome

the rings arent class specific actually, font of the erased, i've got a few with juiced 21 ww stuff

[pearl snow]

What you don’t have a mega stash of T7 T3 god idols just rotting away?

Smh

I also am not a fan of crit avoid vs reduction but its mainly preference.

[gaunt abyss]

ya, im trying to get one nice ring.

[gaunt abyss]

same, as the armor will help for all the hits

[pearl snow]

Yeah and Acolyte already needs a lot of defensive help lol

Ignore this link I need somewhere to stash it while transferring to my pc

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNj6EnKo

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (2)

General:

▸ Health: 1,271, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 241.29, Regen: 12.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 181%, Regen: 24/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 16 Dex / 44 Int / 1 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 79% / 77% / 0% / 38% / 101% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 330
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (64)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 12% (346)

Used skills:

None

[thorn grove]

there's too many valuable affixes for armor tho, it's hard to fit 2 of that affix

[finite galleon]

[finite galleon]

It's also an option on idol enchantments now, so there's that (but the value is kinda trash)

[thorn grove]

yeah even with one t7 on armor you're not gonna hit 100% reduction

[finite galleon]

That range is quite long actually, you can get it sometimes when your pet is killing things offscreen, which is nice

[pearl snow]

I find 100% reduction easy

[thorn grove]

wut, is "nearby" not 4 meters?

[pearl snow]

Boots base, 1 T6 roll on anything. And like 2 enchanted idols

Gives a lot of armor too

[finite galleon]

I'm still rocking 99% block chance and 90-something crit dmg reduction

[thorn grove]

i thought the roll on idols was like 6%? maybe i'm remembering minor idols

it's only 10% as a t7 enchant on idols -_-

[finite galleon]

Hmm good point, but from experience if my abom zooms past me to hit something offscreen, it will usually trigger once

weird stuff

[thorn grove]

hmm, well it was more of a nice bonus but i mainly put that relic there for the ez +lvl and ward retention, and it's suuuper easy to farm

i'll swap it with a 4lp shattered worlds

ez

[finite galleon]

It is easy until there is one specific t7 + skill level prefix you need

[pearl snow]

Yeah its like 5% you get 2 of them. And the boots rolls up to 50% plus any T6 roll is like 40-65% depending on the item

[thorn grove]

the one i planned on was minion health which is only uncommon not rare, so it shouldnt take too long

[thorn grove]

oh you mean the implicit on boots, i'm using the living boots for low life lol

[pearl snow]

Oh yeah lol

Low life avoid might be easier

[thorn grove]

kinda sucks to drop the t7 on rings for it

[pearl snow]

Yeah I think most do a ring or belt and the blessing

[thorn grove]

the all res blessing is too good for me to drop it XD

looks like with avoid the rings can roll to 75% on t7 so you'd only need a t7+t5 with good rolls

[finite galleon]

that blessing slot do be tight asf

[thorn grove]

i'm mad i had to take phys res over inc armor for the age of winter blessing

if i get super lucky on rings i can take the armor one instead

[finite galleon]

with those nasty 12 or 23 phys res (is it 23?) idols these days, one missing res is kinda easy to patch up

[finite galleon]

wait so you'd be happy with a t7 minion health with whatever else?

[thorn grove]

yeah i can always drop health idols, rn i'm lookin at abt 1200 ward/s with health idols which is prolly overkill for starting high corruption

[thorn grove]

since it's ww i never like to plan on more than 1 affix

it's very likely that i fill a res slot with that relic tho

[finite galleon]

MOAR, WE NEED TO GREED FOR MOAR

[thorn grove]

hahaha

i already got a really nice rolled t7 hybrid health strands of souls for the build which, at least to me, seems like the "hardest" part

the rings i figured i can just suffer with the random big crit deaths until i get those

[finite galleon]

oh yeah, chilling with like a 95 crit avoidance rate

that's how the big bois roll

[thorn grove]

go get a lottery ticket if you get a crit death with that high crit avoid lol

i'm assuming monsters have a 5% crit chance?

[finite galleon]

I am clueless

[thorn grove]

even if they had 50% crit chance you're lookin at like sub 0.5% chance to get crit

wait no, 2.5% chance with that XD

still

also considering mostly only big hits matter for that

[finite galleon]

Yes that's how I cope with my 99% block rate too

[thorn grove]

bruh

average pala be like

[finite galleon]

Nothing in this world can convince me to replace my health regen on my rings or gloves with block chance

[drifting idol]

Season 3 will

No more snapshotting for our dearest baby boy

[thorn grove]

rekt

[drifting idol]

I live to serve.

Yes, you just got served👅

[thorn grove]

snapshotting seems fun in its own way lol

[drifting idol]

It is fun to him

[finite galleon]

Piggy is starting to see the light

[drifting idol]

The light of lies?

[finite galleon]

there is yet a seed of hope in piggy

Javors is a lost cause

[thorn grove]

i can also say drugs seem fun in their own way, doesnt mean imma do it

[drifting idol]

True love means no matter how different we are, i still love you

Onlyyyyyy youuuuu

[gritty cargo]

Most things need the snapshot to be useable. Hopefully they buff everything enough that snapshot isn't missed

[finite galleon]

TRUE LOVE MEANS TO NEVER STAB YOUR COMRADE IN THE BACK REEE

[thorn grove]

they twisted that knife too

[finite galleon]

I uhh, I'm mostly just hoping for some cute re-skins

[drifting idol]

I thought we did backshots enough times to ignore such restrictions

🥺 👅

[thorn grove]

bruh wtf lmao

[drifting idol]

If u r not gay with ur homie, r u even homies

[finite galleon]

I am ashamed to admit you are my countryman

[thorn grove]

it was just so outta left field hahaha

[gritty cargo]

📸 🤨 🫵

[drifting idol]

Just doing comedy dw

[thorn grove]

when are we gonna be able to name our minions

[drifting idol]

When nec starts being fun enough

Btw

I am still not getting how spine of malatros work

Can you really just get +9 on one single skill with max roll??

[wise basalt]

I wish necro wouldn't be so squishy just because "wE hAvE miNiOnS"

[drifting idol]

Warlock is worse 🤣

[pearl snow]

yes

[drifting idol]

Dang

I should switch rn tbh

[pearl snow]

for whips you really only need +6

anything past that doesnt do much

[drifting idol]

Is there any other build with malatros?

Itself points to flamewhip 🤔

[pearl snow]

not really

[drifting idol]

Dang

[pearl snow]

you could use it for skill levels but theres usually better options

[drifting idol]

Such as?

[pearl snow]

depends on what you are doing

Infernal Shade has better options since theres ghostmaker

CB cant really be a powerhouse for on hit

and DoT doesnt care about the skill levels

Torment lock cant use it obviously

[drifting idol]

Idk, I just like skill levels

[pearl snow]

yeah its nice

ive got an idea for it after I test another cb setup

[drifting idol]

I wait with abated breath

5 N abby tries left, can i do it?

[pearl snow]

hell yeah

[drifting idol]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOOD GOOOOD

[vivid monolith]

Black hole sorcerer

[gritty cargo]

there's a few builds that dont really care about the flame whip and just collect the +9 level to skills

off-meta builds of off-meta skills

[drifting idol]

22%

[gritty cargo]

you could be him

[keen prism]

are death knight useful in emp monos?

[drifting idol]

20%

bruh, last phase is such a smol place

alas, i ran out of eyes now loool

[pearl snow]

F

[finite galleon]

You wanna know why?

[drifting idol]

tell me 🥺

[finite galleon]

Ppl have been reporting to have had decent success with it

[finite galleon]

Cuz you on a build that requires you to have hands to play it, when your items aren't yet OP for a particular fight

Big bois play builds that their grandmas can also pilot

(still not too late to swtich)

[drifting idol]

have i ever told you the definition of insanity

i like my warlock dots stuff, leave me be 💀

[finite galleon]

😩 I shouldn't have hoped

Btw is dmg or tankiness your main problemo

[drifting idol]

i think its abby mechanic

[pearl snow]

not the skill issue

[finite galleon]

[drifting idol]

last void phase is hard to survive through, everywhere is dot

holy hell

[finite galleon]

Yeah if you insta die upon touching anything or have to dodge for too long it gets rough

[drifting idol]

i can handle 1 of his triple slam attack

me think thats kinda enough tbh

[finite galleon]

that big ass eye's drop rate is kinda nasty these days

Rip.

[gritty cargo]

anyone here have a pretty far built infernal shade lich/lock/necco

when you're buffed whats your tooltip say on infernal shade

[thorn grove]

isnt this lone watcher node actually only hurting you if you have this poison node already?

[wintry flame]

yes, it used to be for the increased duration but dread shade last indefinitely now, so

[thorn grove]

ah i see

[drifting idol]

bruh how do i farm harbinger eyes wth

[thorn grove]

glyphs of envy

[vivid monolith]

How does Inheritance of the Erased work with minion stats? If I have 50% increased minion damage (for example), and my minion inherits that stat, does it get 50% twice? 🤔

[pearl snow]

I think so

[vivid monolith]

Also, I ust got one with t7 spell damage. Wraithlord, it is time to brr

[pearl snow]

Oh nvm it was answered in dev chat

It wouldnt

[vivid monolith]

Was it?

rip

[pearl snow]

Recently

[vivid monolith]

I guess if the minion had a minion? lmao

[pearl snow]

It will however give minion dmg to any minions it soawns

Yeah

[vivid monolith]

That's funny

[pearl snow]

So minion children get 2x

[vivid monolith]

I guess it isn't a dead stat, then, since flame wraiths have... some damage

wait. Cast speed on Julra's gloves, damn

Also, anyone know the range on [Deadlock] from the Dread Shade tree? "Dread Shade now roots the targeted minion and causes it to taunt enemies around it."

Considering throwing a point into it for Wraithlord so that I'm less likely to be ganked by teleporting possessed losers 😢

[thorn grove]

sowwy

[vivid monolith]

spell damage remains my king, then

[thorn grove]

spell dmg and cast speed are king and queen

[pearl snow]

yeah thats only for wraithlord

everything else acts how I said I guess

[vivid monolith]

what ways am I missing to get cast speed on wraithlord

[thorn grove]

uhhh

i'm in the process of making a build myself so idk if i'm the most credible source

like i'm not even 100% sure i can apply both shades to my wraithlord at the same time

[vivid monolith]

You can

Oh, another thing @pearl snow maybe you know: attributes given to minions, do they function as though they were your own attributes? Ie. int giving Wraithlord benefits (from the Julra's gloves)

[pearl snow]

If its from Julra I assume so. Granted I'm rarely ever necro

[thorn grove]

sowwy

[wintry flame]

attributes do nothing for minions if passed on via julra's gloves. you'll just get the scaling once

[pearl snow]

Good thing im not a necro player lmao getting everything wrong

[vivid monolith]

zzz

my build diversity

💢

[wintry flame]

restrictions breed creativity

or something like that

[thorn grove]

is my internet crap or is the USE server laggin a bit

[vivid monolith]

I'm also getting some stuttering and the stuff I'm watching is flawless

God, if only Julra would give me 2lp gloves and they'd hit cast speed and health

[drifting idol]

i killed like 6 harbingers

0 drop

holy moly

[thorn grove]

what corruption

[drifting idol]

300

rly cant do more lmao, those champions are on my ass

[thorn grove]

lol

still havent confirmed if the echo where you kill the harbinger only gives eyes or not

but maybe try that and find out XD

[pearl snow]

id also double check somehow a filter isnt hiding it

something crazy

[drifting idol]

💀

[thorn grove]

Filters can't hide currency right?

[old hull]

Right

[thorn grove]

this is your fault ||dont look at the overkill dmg it was totally the crit that killed me||

[calm dome]

Does fire convert wandering spirits convert the necrotic res shred or damned chance per second to fire shred and ignite chance per second

[obtuse quest]

It doesn’t convert whatever it doesn’t say.

[marble palm]

I’d rather reduce the crit damage I do take than have under 100% avoidance

[zinc jay]

Somebody follow keeper184 necromancer wraithlord build?

[marble palm]

No but I might be able to help anyway

Or someone else might

Ask away

[zinc jay]

I kinda lost with my necromancer wraithlord build

Find some YouTube cool build, but its not working

Or i miss something

[marble palm]

Probably the latter

What is the problem?

[zinc jay]

https://youtu.be/4A5ulF-gsAY?si=rjdTLv1IOyVXs6yf

[marble palm]

I still don’t know what your problem is though

Do you have a link to your character?

[zinc jay]

I tried same gear as here

Completely no dps

[marble palm]

Looking at the first commenter it looks like they are exploiting snapshotting which may be a cause for the difference in performance

Without seeing your build though I can’t really say for certain

[obtuse quest]

Snapshot related looks like

[zinc jay]

My wraithlord often die, so idk if snapshotting working

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVDmqq4B

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (30) / Necromancer (71) / Warlock (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,545, Regen: 899.4/s
▸ Mana: 200.49, Regen: 8.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 172%, Regen: 390/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 10 Dex / 11 Int / 1 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 87% / 83% / 52% / 124% / 131% / 82%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 509
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (77)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,074)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Transplant / Summon Wraith / Infernal Shade / Dread Shade

[zinc jay]

Here my planner

[marble palm]

What corruption?

[zinc jay]

I have 2500 hp and 2300 ward its not bad

[zinc jay]

350c.

Can't up higher

[marble palm]

You have very little in the way of minion defences

So makes sense

[zinc jay]

I see

What i suppose to do

[marble palm]

They are likely snapshotting their gear for their minion

[marble palm]

Not much else you can do other than keep farming and improving your gear over time

[zinc jay]

What exactly piece i need

Exalted chest+4 wrath lvl seems Indeed for me rn

[marble palm]

You could try for vessel with lip

[zinc jay]

Lip ?

[marble palm]

LP, autocorrect ^^

[zinc jay]

Relic i have 1lp

On current one

[marble palm]

Oh

Planner says no LP

Okay

[zinc jay]

Julra gloves seems okay

With 30% cast speed

[marble palm]

I would use 2 turquoise rings as well personally

Julia is fine

[zinc jay]

Turquoise ring ?

What's that

[marble palm]

It’s a base type that offers minion stats

As an implicit that is

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/IIwBgTKIOwrQ

[zinc jay]

Hard to find with good minion stats add @marble palm

[obtuse quest]

Craft one!

Since it's a base item you can just craft one given an item that drops with like 2 of the 4 affixes you want.

[finite galleon]

This is the price we pay for having enormous testicles

[finite galleon]

Hate to break it to you Tavastical, but that is a sign of you not being based enough

[zinc jay]

For craft i need find good base with couple good mods

[obtuse quest]

Filter for the base then filter for 2 of the list of affixes you want, and you should be able to get a few here and there to craft.

[finite galleon]

Oh yeah, anything below 35 minion crit multiplier? Insta shatter.

Implicits don't sum up to at least 100? Insta shatter

[zinc jay]

Interesting

I just use universal filter

So kinda mess all class items

[obtuse quest]

That’s your first and probably biggest mistake in filtering

[zinc jay]

Yea 😆

[obtuse quest]

Always use filters made specifically for your build.

[zinc jay]

So i need for example that kinda base ?

[marble palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-patrick-spongebob-sad-gif-355481321846362250

[marble palm]

Yeah, I would use 2 Exalted of these personally

And if you can get an (Infernal?) Champion affix sealed on one even better

Would free up a prefix on your boots

Can slam something else then, Int or Movement speed

[zinc jay]

What's champion affix ?

[marble palm]

An affix specific to champion drops

[zinc jay]

I have those

In boots

[marble palm]

Yeah, I saw

[obtuse quest]

That's the Exiled Mage version, yeah.

[marble palm]

I think Infernal has that slam on a ring though