💀┃acolyte

[drifting idol]

dunno about harvest but bone curse looks more interesting

[pearl snow]

Harvest can be good, its just rough to gear for everything +dexterity

You really need like 40-50 Dex to be consistent

[drifting idol]

well time to try the warlock build lol

[short girder]

guys should i go for more attack speed or more critical hit chance?

[obtuse quest]

That depends on how much of both you already have(or don't have)

Why is attack speed even in the convo we only got one melee skill.

[short girder]

yeah i got a build around harvester.....

[obtuse quest]

Then the latter really shouldn't be an issue since harvest can crit cap by itself easily.

All it takes is like 7 skill points and 5 passive points.

[short girder]

yeah thats true.. but it says i go down lik 1500 dps if i go for the attack speed

[obtuse quest]

If you have these three maxed, you have crit chance cap for Harvest.

[short girder]

yeah those points are not very well for my build is use the learned weakness instead

[obtuse quest]

Then I am sad to say that you must suffer and find flat crit from affixes and lose the advantage of not needing to build crit chance at all, which is the one thing harvest is good at.

In that scenario, it would depend on what you have more, and just take the one that is currently the lowest. And never trust tooltip dps.

[short girder]

yeah ill do that,

[short girder]

tooltip dps suck i know 😮

well it seems 63% crit rate beats attack speed so ill go with that thanks anyways 🙂

[drifting idol]

man, gotta say i did not spend my 400k for nothing

warlock aesthetic is so much more cooler than what i had as poison lich

[gray spear]

@vivid valve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cThI1Crb994

[atomic atlas]

tower defense

[atomic atlas]

is there a noticeable difference in drops being that high corr? vs speed farming 300-500

[gray spear]

There are way more drops, but it's less reliable since you can be 1-shot by anything. For farming, I'd stay around 1-1.5k

Pushing corruption is just a fun challenge

[atomic atlas]

i like the juiced out tombs and they get kinda tough sometimes

[still sable]

do you guys think it is worth trading 37% of increased necrotic damage for an extra 4 intelligence on my Stygian Coal?

i know the int stacking is very important

[atomic atlas]

you probably have close to 1k increased damage already

so 37% isnt much

and int is still damage. and cast speed and ward etc

[still sable]

only 244 with the stygiant coal equipped, so if i got the one with more int it would still be at like 207% or something

but i am also only level 65 haha

but the new stygian coal is basically free for the amount of gold i have and i need to level up the guild rank

[atomic atlas]

oh 65 dont even sweat it just zoom

[still sable]

is there any way to sort the bazaar by implicit stats btw?

[drifting temple]

int is much better. it gives you many things at once 4 int is still equal to 16% necrotic increase and also it gives ward retention/beams frequency/extra mana from warlock tree/extra cast speed from ladle

[still sable]

yeah i didnt really think about it much beyond how it impacts the coal

i do need way more mana to spam more drain lifes

[drifting temple]

mana is damage multiplier for drain life with coal

[lament kernel]

guys what is better for doing damage? blood aura for 6% minon damage with 8 points or forbidden knowledge for 1 intelligence for 8 points?

[pearl snow]

Are you talking the starting nodes in acolyte?

[lament kernel]

yes 🙂

right now im using minion armor but i have t7 exalt helm with armor now and i think i dont need that anymore 😇

like its about is 6% or 1 intelligence better ^^

[pearl snow]

I’m partial to Forbidden knowledge since it also has necro res but I think pure dmg output the 6% stack is better

I believe you can check the intelligence scaling % in game via tooltip or on LET

I know for spells its 4% per Int

[lament kernel]

yeah i think its also 4% damage for minions too but i dont know if it counts the same as minion damage because minion damage is like few hundreds % and then just 4% seems so low 😋

[pearl snow]

Yeah the starting passive amps are kinda low per point

More dmg is more dmg is more dmg kinda thing

[atomic atlas]

int is still minion damage tho

4% aint it

oh u just said it kek

16 dmg difference... you prob have 500%+ min damage already... 16 % difference is not much vs the other benefits of int

int kinda op

[lament kernel]

862% 😋 but i have changed it again a bit...i do have the 8 int and also the armor back...i removed all points from this other int node that also gives minion crit multiplier or so and this node with minion increased crit chance to also have more points in minion health

oh and i have tried vanguard...but the chance is really low to get them and i dont know...better to put points in armor and health for minions maybe 🤔

[atomic atlas]

link ur profile

[lament kernel]

i dont know how and im playing offline so i dont know if that even works 😅

[atomic atlas]

id do offline but i dont wanna restart

good choice

[lament kernel]

yeah like i was starting 2 weeks or so before new season to just play and then do season but when season started i was having fun and strong and didnt wanted to start again 😅

[atomic atlas]

u playing zoo?

[lament kernel]

full minion skills but im thinking adding this blood spell with splatter to heal myself when i change from usurper to reach of grave and incorrect offhand 😇

[hasty otter]

is warlock kinda bad, i dont know how to see what builds are best and all i see is the ladder thing on lastepochtools and warlock hasnt done crap on there

[pearl snow]

if you want to push high corruption its not the best

but Flame Whip exists

ladders are usually just meta and speed builds

[atomic atlas]

isnt usurper just better? pen is too important

[still sable]

what do warlocks like on their gear?

i found an exalt chest with t7 +cthonic fissure levels and want to craft something juicy on the chest

[atomic atlas]

depends on the build? nec res for most of them

[still sable]

well i got t7 cthonic fissure, t5 health, t5 necrotic res, with fp left to chaos the final affix

there is not a single chest on the market with those 3 mods at tiers 7 5 and 5

or even 7 5 and 4

so i dont even know what to price it

i guess i will just put something crazy

[atomic atlas]

that'd prob take frequency. but ye thats great

[still sable]

its too bad warlocks dont use summon skeleton lol

thats the other affix but i left fp so it could be chaos fodder

[atomic atlas]

any of these good ? 4LP stash idk any of them

[atomic dust]

the relic has use in some mage build iirc

[atomic atlas]

oka tyty

[still sable]

oh boy i just figured out you can hold two buttons at once and if you have mana it will cast the one that costs mana and if you have no mana it will cast the one that doesnt cost mana

it makes playing stygian coal so much smoother

[vivid monolith]

Relic also sees use in ice or frostbite heartseeker marksman and maybe some primalist stuff

[deft scarab]

messing around with warlock fissure (?) skill that does fire & necro dmg - is it safe to focus 2 different dmg types? or should i find a way to go all in on one?

[pearl snow]

depends how you are scaling it. If you are doing flat dmg, not a great idea.
If you are doing Ignite / Damned into Witchfire its okay

[cedar hill]

Any vet Warlocks about? How does the [Blood Gulch] node in the Fissure tree interact with the [Ash Cloud] node? Does the "fissure spreads ignite stacks" gets converted to bleed stacks?

[pearl snow]

it should yeah

because the fire shred is converted

[cedar hill]

Thank you.

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[lament kernel]

do you mean penetration? because usurper mandate has necrotic penetration only and i dont have much necrotic damage...mostly fire archers and fire mages and fire golems 😋

[vivid kernel]

aight i think i might have fixed my warlock squishiness issue...

too bad the imprinter doesnt work anymore

[lament kernel]

but how do you reach 180 total attribute?

[vivid kernel]

i stack about 30 int in passives alone, unique helm/amulet/boots give a tonne of stats

the ring itself has stats

[lament kernel]

my stats are 20 14 11 12 2 😅

[worn drum]

you will get there easlily

[atomic egret]

Hey guys, i have an lp3 exsang in my chest and i don't see many people running exsanguinous on Styg coal Lich, is there any reason ? build functions quite well being low life most on the time (at least till i can get a 2lp+ null portent ?)

[worn drum]

dunno if thats about the life leech to stay in lich form

[obtuse quest]

Do you run Death Seal?

[atomic egret]

yes

[obtuse quest]

Have you read Death Seal?

[atomic egret]

not enough i presume xd

HUHH

ok

don't mind me guyz

[obtuse quest]

I was about to screenshot it-

But yes, Death Seal is the reason why most Lich builds don't run ward.

[worldly sage]

Hey guys! I've have some trouble finding a fun build for my Lich and I'm currently running "Infernal Shades".

It's definitely in the right direction, but I don't like pets/minions(also already tried "Death Seal" and "Stygian Coal", but those were not fun for me).

So I've been looking everywhere for a build that uses Infernal Shades, but without minions, is that even viable? And if "yes" what would I replace the Zombies with? Or perhaps there are other direct damage using builds for the Lich that I haven't found yet? Any suggestions?

[lament kernel]

im not sure.... how about health? 😇

[obtuse quest]

Zombies are your best bet for infernal shade spam really, they're great bodies.

[worldly sage]

So there are no alternatives? I don't care if it's a suboptimal Infernal Shades build, I just don't like minions, even though I understand that they are only there as utility. Or perhaps I should try Warlock idk anymore...

[obtuse quest]

You can remove zombies then spec out of infernal shade's minion attach node, then just spam cast infernal instead, but it's pretty suboptimal.

[worldly sage]

Ok I can live with that. One more thing that is driving me nuts is the "Wrongwarp" wand. Are there any good alternatives for that aswell?

[obtuse quest]

Not really. It's used for the movespeed to damage affix which cannot be found anywhere else.

If you don't have it, an exalted will have to do until then

[worldly sage]

I see

[shrewd valley]

How are harvest lich builds faring in this patch? Getting a bit bored of my vk and always loved harvest liches..

[worn drum]

thats looks very healthy! dam!

[lament kernel]

thanks ❤️ ...maybe i focused a bit much on it 😇

[worn drum]

im using a null with t7 +% hp and imjust at 2400 😛

[obtuse quest]

No change, still kinda mid.

[shrewd valley]

Thanks! Wish there could be more variants to acolyte melee 😦

[obtuse quest]

There's no variants to do when there's only one melee skill that isn't even THAT good.

[shrewd valley]

Yeah, what I mean is they should add something like an unique or a skill node/passive nodes to change up playstyles

Or not should, but I wish they did

[obtuse quest]

Well, comsidering we're getting a lich rework next season, you can hope.

[drifting temple]

they will do it for sure next season. lich and necro are pretty much the focus of next season. also lich is still missing 1 skill

[shrewd valley]

Woo, that's cool af

[half bone]

abom vs wraithlord and why? which is overall stronger? which is easier to play? i usually like braindead low button walking simulator pet builds that can do all the content with ease (grim dawn double brairthorn conjurer type of thing for example)

[half bone]

necro focus? i love and only play pet builds

[finite galleon]

based

[drifting temple]

the answer is very simple. abomination is stronger if you are snapshotting

[half bone]

(walking sim runemaster is only exception)

[obtuse quest]

Abom is high effort high boss deletion, Warithlord is low effort but weaker balanced setup.

[half bone]

no snapshot

thats cheesy

[finite galleon]

okay, I take it back

[drifting temple]

if you do not snapshot then its not a question. the answer wraithlord

[half bone]

what does snapshotting abom look like?

[drifting temple]

check maxroll guide you will see basics

[half bone]

does it take long and whats the process like? i never snapshotted in my life

also maybe you could help me with a non acolyte question

i havent played since 1.0. do we still stack ward? i heard that is nerfed? what the go to survivability strat like

[drifting temple]

int ward retention is nefed yes. but it still depends on the build

[obtuse quest]

Some classes still stack ward, depends on the setup.

[half bone]

i take it wraithlord still uses ward

[finite galleon]

It's never too late to take your first sip from all that untapped power

[vivid kernel]

Yall describing it like the dark side of the force

[drifting temple]

yes

[half bone]

im actually not even familiar with snapshotting rly. i would have to see how its done

i just know its cheesy

[drifting temple]

for almost all minion builds its just equip minion health/damage/dodge etc gear summon minion and change gear to your def setup

[half bone]

snapshotting to me in other games was like +X skills, summon, put on real gear

[drifting temple]

for abomination its a bit different

so if yre casual player do not even try to do it. you will not enjoy your life

[half bone]

i rememer teleporting around with my wraithlord deleting everything

that was so fun 🤷‍♀️

squirrles was actually my first build but they.. kinda suck

[drifting temple]

wraithlord is totally fine to play without snapshots you will do your 1k corruption and will kill nornal aberroth without any issues

[finite galleon]

Well it's kinda modular, so you can choose whichever step you'd like to do

I'm not doing all of them either, i'm skipping the minion health bit until it becomes a problem

[half bone]

i heard theres an uber version

no chance wraithlord is killing it?

[obtuse quest]

No one has done it so far.

The only person I know trying to do so is keeper, who hit 5k corruption with wraithlord.

[half bone]

thats the person whos build im looking at

im confused on their skill choice though

when i played we specced voltale zombie > parasites for the wraithlord to absorb

theyre not doing that

[obtuse quest]

They're using transplants' bone minion for the absorb and just keeping it up.

[half bone]

isnt that just 1 minion?

[obtuse quest]

Yeah, they're committed to not stacking the buff so the wraithlord AI just focuses on attacking. It can't move anyway.

[half bone]

we need both dread/infernal shade, wraith and transplant as core skills. is bone a core skill or could we go zombie?

[drifting idol]

missing the last relic then i am set for my build 😌

[half bone]

i read wraith can only absorb so many minions at a time now. does zombie parasites screw him up or something?

im not too familiar with the nerfs/changes

[zinc jay]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/wraith-necromancer-guide does its good build?

[obtuse quest]

If he takes too much time to absorb then it's less time to do damage.

[half bone]

can make bone summon minions instead of using zombie

[obtuse quest]

Which is what he alternatively recommends, yes.

[half bone]

where do you see that?

[obtuse quest]

Scroll down in his build guide. He mentions it somewhere.

[half bone]

(i did oof)

[dry bridge]

what rings should i use for sygian lich if i dont have red rings?

[pallid dawn]

imprinting will drop more items with t7 + t6 mods , not necessiraily same mods right ?

[half bone]

i thought absorbing minions increased wraithlords damage too

[obtuse quest]

The buff does yes, but he spends less time attacking.

That's what I know about it, kinda balancing eating minions and doing damage.

[half bone]

i see

curse has to be the way to go

mark death -25% all res

works on bosses?

[gritty cargo]

these tripple all the LP slams?

movement skill before snapshot something

[prime smelt]

Yes

[dry bridge]

why doe sstygian lich drop so low in hp? what passive/skill does that

[prime smelt]

Death seal

[dry bridge]

without activating it

like im just chilling at the start of any mono im at 87/2000

[prime smelt]

Different nodes in the passive tree drain current hp % per second

So if you are not leeching your hp will drain

[dry bridge]

deadge

[prime smelt]

You can opt out of taking them but they are quite strong

[dry bridge]

yeah i just took a look them numbers crazy

[prime smelt]

I found it quite annoying but their strength was hard for me to pass up

[scenic hornet]

Question - why is Aura of Decay not counted as a spell? Is that intentional? Compared to other aura-based skills like Holy Aura, it seems off.

[chrome mason]

It might be intentional in scalings since holy aura is specifically a buff, however the more likely answer is the class is old as shit 😅

[cursive parrot]

Because poison can never “hit” in LE and the skill itself applies the poison ailment which isnt a spell.

[half bone]

lucky start i guess?

[scenic hornet]

@chrome mason @cursive parrot Got it. Thanks! 🙂

[drifting temple]

not every buff is spell tho also

so my guess is "it is what it is"

[obtuse quest]

It doesn't have a spell component to it either

(Or you can just think of it as them shafting poison)

[arctic turtle]

do multiple casts of drain life with stygian coal stack?

liek dark shackles lasts 5 seconds, if I cast it twice in a row, do I have two of them going at the same time?

[warped steppe]

I'm going nuts here folks - I am trying to assemble abomination but for some reason I cannot channel it - can anybody perhaps tell me why that is?

[arctic turtle]

are you using hardware or software that treats holding down a key as rapidly pressing it?

[warped steppe]

not 'i know

[arctic turtle]

and you definitely have minions to sacrifice?

[obtuse quest]

Yes, but you would want your mana to be high at all times for the damage boost

[arctic turtle]

ok thanks

[lost gale]

yeah, the maxroll guys reckon that casting it as often as possible is better overall than keeping your mana high for the damage bonus but I've never tested it myself

[warped steppe]

yes of course 🙂

[finite galleon]

Ay yo after bricking 4 ravenous voids in a row

the luck has come around a little bit

in slamming at least

Not gonna upgrade these in a long long time I suspect

[warped steppe]

can you reroll the affixes btw? One they are on they are forever, right?

I found out why I could not assemble abomination... feeling quite stupid. It was golem I was using 🙂

[finite galleon]

affixes on what type of item?

[warped steppe]

legendaries - once the affixes are on you can reroll them sure - but it's going to be the same affixes always right?

[finite galleon]

yes

[vapid yew]

For how long stygian coal beams fire? Is there need to recast those until I hit negative mana or just when it runs out?

[obtuse quest]

As long as dark shackles lasts. Each cast stacks.

[vapid yew]

I see thanks

[finite galleon]

@obtuse quest kzb sama I have got gud. I now have like a 90% success rate on summoning a wraithlord and insta channel abom on top of it b4 it can get its first sacrifice cast off

I just creamed a little bit

[warped steppe]

Is there any way to target specific affixes on weaver items or is it just completely random?

[vapid yew]

anyone tried target farm mad alch ladle with COF? any prophecies can help or its just totally random not affected by any

[obtuse quest]

There is none. Pray to god.

[obtuse quest]

Mad ladle is a boss drop, so prophecies don't do anything.

[exotic temple]

exiled mages

I swear those drop it so weaver tree

[vapid yew]

yeah i wanted to play jav throw and none dropped, swapped to ES and had 4 spears drop

now I need ladle and none 😄

[fervent basalt]

what are the damage scalers in this build outside of minion dmg and flat dmg on weapon
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bxr56jZA

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (22) / Necromancer (72) / Warlock (19)

General:

▸ Health: 2,770, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 265.51, Regen: 12.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 277%, Regen: 186/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 11 Dex / 89 Int / 1 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 50% / 60% / 82% / 70% / 259% / 71%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 554
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (114)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (895)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Skeletal Mage / Summon Volatile Zombie / Summon Wraith / Dread Shade

[fervent basalt]

it seems so simple, it couldnt be that only right?

[obtuse quest]

What is this minion army build? But otherwise, pretty much correct. Int also scales damage.

[warped steppe]

Mana if you can pump 5 points into Forbidden Arcana? That's what I did. Not playing this one though - using Wandering Spirits to shred necrotic res instead of having wraiths

[gritty cargo]

there a way to reroll these and change the curse?

[obtuse quest]

You can reroll the affix ranges, but not the curse. Get another drop.

[old hull]

No, but apparently you're able to sacrifice different variants to reroll affix ranges on ones you actually want

[finite galleon]

Funnily enough, for all the modesty shown in this build's equipment recommendation, the idols are casually rocking double t5 on theme enchanted affixes

I have yet to roll a t7 on the one enchantment I care about

[fervent basalt]

its skeleton explode build

[fervent basalt]

oh yeah definitely, i dont care about them tbh

[fervent basalt]

wraiths hits nice on single target or smt idk

build clears comfy but kinda slow

[obtuse quest]

Other that the skeletal mage max mana scaling node, that's it.

[fervent basalt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/vinalene/character/RISSEEEEEE

My equipment looks like this, just started doing empowerred monos

[finite galleon]

Finisher, I need you to listen to me, finisher

[fervent basalt]

no i wont snapshot abom

😠

[finite galleon]

Having fun raising skellies is cool and all, but

?????

???

how did you know??

[fervent basalt]

lmaooo

[gritty cargo]

unfortunate

[vivid monolith]

Can't look close bc on mobile but you also have the multipliers from shades as options don't forget

[warped steppe]

I actually tried swapping to wraiths for this. Don't have the flame dudes but went with death knights and melee wraiths. God damn it smacks hard. Way better than my spirits 🙂

[vivid monolith]

You can use an idol to get flame wraith chance

[warped steppe]

I know - I'll get one and give that one a shot

[vivid monolith]

Obviously isn't 100% but it is nice, I use it with wraithlord

[warped steppe]

yes yes - I actually had one. I'll just snapshot it

[vivid monolith]

Don't forget to enchant it with ww

[vivid kernel]

can confirm this works, i did it myself, i was surprised that it went through but since the name is the same it makes sense

helped me go from absolute god horrid roll to kinda meh roll yesterday

this amulet is a huge pain to roll, so many variables, especially if you've already slammed it

[finite galleon]

LET UNCLE SALT GIVE YOUR FACE A SQUEEZE SHINOBU

[vivid kernel]

wha- stay away from the donut vampire

[warped steppe]

ww?

[vivid monolith]

Weavers will, they're class idols so they can be enchanted in cemetery or tomb

[formal aspen]

Why does the Stygian Coal Lich build convert Rip Blood to necrotic? What does that actually do for the build?

[placid heart]

anyone here playing a self curse build?

[lilac scaffold]

rip blood is physical dmg based, changed it to your " natural " necrotic dmg is more efficient in dps

[formal aspen]

so just supplementary dps

thank you

[drifting idol]

mmm mad alchemist ladle works with witchfire build?

did not skill hungering souls at all so i dont think i will go for marina's...

[zinc jay]

What i miss on necromancer, I can't do any monolit maps , I just dead

[gritty cargo]

no way this snapshots with Bone Curse using Signet of Agony

[pearl snow]

Depends on your character but a lot of necros will have block on top of their ward gen etc

Theres so many reasons you can die

What level monos?

[warped steppe]

I am doing just fine on necro

[pearl snow]

No it doesnt scale Witchfire

[drifting idol]

so what are my wand choices then?

[pearl snow]

In general your weapon wants DoT, Chance to Ignite.
Endgame you want a fire pen mace with the Curse Dmg Set piece slapped on it,
or a firestarters for HS setup

LET Witchfire guide should be more in depth but thats the tldr

Witchfire is an Ailment no Spell Damage or Int scales it

[drifting idol]

!

but elemental dmg does right?

[pearl snow]

Yes

Ele dmg scale the fire hal

Half

[zinc jay]

100 corruption

[pearl snow]

Sounds like a gearing problem

[swift wren]

If I wanna kill uberoth with drain life, are there any core item changes or do i mostly need to make sure I have hybrid health on most gear?

Like do I take immortal vise just for the dr?

[pearl snow]

We need to see your character for any assistance that you need so link your character via last epoch tools

[drifting idol]

finally unlocked empowered stones

still a cakewalk though, just watching 1 cthonic frissure kills everything lmao

[fervent basalt]

the problem is you trying to scale spell damage on minions for explosion, not melee damage

[finite galleon]

But at what cost?

[drifting idol]

your dignity

[finite galleon]

???

you've gone cringe javors

A traitor to our people.

I should've known it, so many signs of westernisation, now metastasized in the form of going full warlock.

🤮

You're dead to me.

[drifting idol]

its alright bud

at least i did not switch to void knight as i thought

💀

[finite galleon]

Ahh scheisse that would've been even worse

that would be rock bottom

[drifting idol]

the only bottom i see here is you

gtfo bottom

[finite galleon]

????

[drifting idol]

bro needs his daily verbal BDSM session frfr

[finite galleon]

ay cmon man you can't be at your age and still append frfr to your sentences

that being said

I do need to check out this new dommy mommy asmr video yes

[drifting idol]

sry baby boy, i just did

[worldly sage]

Hey!

So I'm gonna try out Whipclaw Warlock, and on the recommended helmet:"Boneclamor Barbute" it says and I quote:"1 Ward per Second per 3% uncapped Necrotic Resistance".

English is not my native languange, so what does that mean exactly? Should I stack as much Necrotic resistance as possible whenever I can, or should I avoid it completely?

[finite galleon]

The former

well, within reasonable boundary

[worldly sage]

I understand what you ment.

[finite galleon]

👍

[worldly sage]

Thank you for the info 🙂

[drifting idol]

wrongwrap seems quite fun

[finite galleon]

I will never again use any item that remotely resembles the Oculus

My achy breaky heart

[drifting idol]

lol wut

[finite galleon]

暗黑2里的眼球，就是那根会乱传来传去的法杖

俺被坑死过无数次

[finite galleon]

Ah shit there is no first phase in uber aberroth fight

I went in thinking I was gonna stack the harvest stacks during the 1st phase

ended up not triggering that 13 stacks minion dmg node once, rip

[formal aspen]

whats the point of this node for stygian coal?

[lyric dirge]

Very new to ARPG's, enjoying the game play on Maxroll's Acolyte levelling guide (Chthonic, Infernal shade, chaos bolts, spirit plague), but it doesn't have an endgame goal. Is there a similar full build that I can follow so I know what items/stats I should go for?

I'm level 78, going through monolith I guess I should mention

[finite galleon]

The natural next step to that play style is to hard commit to a skill called Assemble Abomination

btw your pfp is kinda unsettling

[lyric dirge]

im a warlock tho not necro

[finite galleon]

Maybe that pfp is the face of someone who

is doomed to play warlock

[earnest lichen]

has anyone messed around with a poison rogue skeleton build? got a nearly max rolled 2lp version of this I kinda want to play around with. seems like a cool idea

[old hull]

Pretty fancy. I've run it a bit, though maybe Zeckar the skele rogue enjoyer would know more if they're around.

I think their survivability did get a minor buff in S2? And the skeles dying was definitely a problem, not sure how it feels now / how much minion health investment you need.

[wintry flame]

they pretty good

[earnest lichen]

do you have a planner I could peep at?

[wintry flame]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oX4YPj3o

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Acolyte (31) / Necromancer (60) / Lich (22)

General:

▸ Health: 3,087, Regen: 1,649.44/s
▸ Mana: 177.51, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 228%, Regen: 499/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 3 Dex / 50 Int / 3 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 66% / 66% / 62% / 101% / 144% / 82%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 617
▸ Armor Mitigation: 61% (4,524)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Aura Of Decay / Dread Shade / Transplant / Harvest

[earnest lichen]

tyvm

[wintry flame]

I saw this guy's build too, it's a bit different but doesn't have the same upkeep as mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZborUzif10 @earnest lichen

[earnest lichen]

yeah that's the first build I saw that peeked my interest

[wintry flame]

Yeah you might have to make the rogues a bit tankier on my version, but doesn't matter too much since your resummon to counter infinite poison. I opt for less minions, but faster ramp time and idk his total damage but with my bad gear I was at like 1-2mil dps

[earnest lichen]

daamn nice

that slam on your spear is so nice

actually perfect

[wintry flame]

that's my just the planner I made my gear was a lot worse than that

[earnest lichen]

gotcha

[wintry flame]

here let me put the gear on my char, cause I swapped to test stuff, so you can see

[finite galleon]

And just like that

The moment skelly rogue is mentioned

Zeckar materialises out of thin air

[earnest lichen]

based

[finite galleon]

you can't make this up. This is some crazy voodoo stuff

I suspect this guy has a bot set up, pinging him whenever the words skeleton rogue are said anywhere on discord

[wintry flame]

lmaooo

[earnest lichen]

wouldn't this be better than the swine necklace?

wait

90% less poison dam nvm

[wintry flame]

yeh

not good 😛

[earnest lichen]

totally kills it lmao

didn't even see that at first

what poison build would ever use that?

[wintry flame]

well when poison had uncapped poison pen per stack, it was good for when you had minions to apply a bunch of stacks to get a bunch of pen then you could use a poison ability (i.e. Entangling Roots) to get a lot more dmg

[earnest lichen]

oh interesting

[wintry flame]

but now that poison pen caps at 30 stacks, meh.

Here is my current gear that I hit 1-2 mill dps on, ignore the passives and skills I respecced back lmao https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Apy8WJdQ

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 88

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (31) / Necromancer (59) / Lich (11)

General:

▸ Health: 2,325, Regen: 1,179.65/s
▸ Mana: 180.45, Regen: 9.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 183%, Regen: 336/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 8 Dex / 19 Int / 2 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 97% / 83% / 67% / 106% / 72% / 175% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 581
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,136)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Aura Of Decay / Transplant / Dread Shade / Harvest

[earnest lichen]

why the belt?

[wintry flame]

oh also I do numlock AoD to get 200% inc health regen permanently

[earnest lichen]

classic

[wintry flame]

flat hp regen

[earnest lichen]

ah

[wintry flame]

easy-ish to get lp

[earnest lichen]

my necro is only level 60 atm so I'm a far ways off of strife

[wintry flame]

I farmed it on the character at 74 😛

you had to play semi-good, but dmg was niceee. Just couldn't get hit much. I need to refarm mine has bad roll

[obtuse quest]

Drain life, even after being converted to cast, drains your mana while it’s doing it’s thing. This turns it into health drain instead.

[formal aspen]

oh okay that makes sense

does it still count as channeling then? seems weird

[obtuse quest]

No, but anything in drain life’s node that would check for channeling time checks for newest instance’s duration instead

[finite galleon]

The mental resolve required to slam on a 23% regen to ward strife as a temporary upgrade is crazy. I don't have the guts to do it even if I knew it was the rifht thing to do.

[wintry flame]

lmao it's just a T6

[finite galleon]

[wintry flame]

and I would want a better roll, remove lp, then egg

to hit that sweet sweet 2lp

[finite galleon]

wait is egg 0 to 2lp more likely than turtle 1 to 2lp?

[wintry flame]

I have no idea, but if it hits at turtle I am happy too

[finite galleon]

True, true

[formal aspen]

i see, thank you

[earnest lichen]

@wintry flame is harvest just used as an additional way to add poison stacks?

[wintry flame]

yeah gives jade dust buff, 50% poison chance and 150% for throwing

and then extra dmg, some move speed, in monos

[earnest lichen]

gotcha

[wintry flame]

also lets you control rogues a bit with the enemy prio

[earnest lichen]

is it possible for dread shade to not kill my minions 😭

[wintry flame]

if you take the all for one node like I do you have to take the everlasting poison node

since I have less minions I opt to take that node to give them another multiplier. so there is upkeep, but regen and minion health makes them last longer. The leech helps too, but I just resummon 1 every so often.

[earnest lichen]

makes sense

are you able to get to 999 poison stacks?

I'm getting to around 100 stacks atm single target with all 4 buffed. but my gear is awful and I'm still leveling

[wintry flame]

I get to like 200-250 in that range

you can't get high stacks unless you have more minions but it makes the ramp time longer and you need more minions to focus each target and also they usually are squishier

[earnest lichen]

yeah that's fair

[lost gale]

If you're using hollow lich why aren't you going for the big T7 melee leech roll on your spear?

gloves too

[wintry flame]

on the spear would be good, it's another 16%. I think I still want Int on gloves. it has a lot more value than just damage

[finite galleon]

I thought you'd be based and play pets embryo

smh my head

😭

[lost gale]

The idea of ARPG pets builds, the power fantasy, is always much better than the reality imo

[earnest lichen]

Agreed

[lost gale]

I'm big into proc chains and ailment proliferation

Those builds are also a bit unreliable and underwhelming at times but they're just so appealing

[vivid monolith]

Pretty sure you use the serpent's milk when you convert poison to another ailment

idk what minion you do that on that is actually used though

[lost gale]

volatile zombie can be converted from poison

I'm not sure which other ones can

[obtuse quest]

Those are pretty rare

[vivid monolith]

Yeah, that's sort of the problem lol. Not sure if something in other class can, either, but w/e

[true flame]

Is anyone struggling with survivability with stygian coal lich?

I really start to hate this build at level 98

[obtuse quest]

Do you have enough health and leech?

[true flame]

I feel like the leech is great but I just get one shotted way too often

how much life should I aim for?

[warped steppe]

Are you snapshotting?

Oh sorry - I just assumed everyone here was using minions 🙂

[obtuse quest]

3k+

[true flame]

I am just at 2,3k. Got something to fix. thanks

[warped steppe]

Holy shit it's hard to get a good Nihilis...

The roll ranges on that one are just insane

[lament kernel]

dont look at omnis 😋

[wicked blade]

I run some test on Curse, can anyone confirm this?
Sinathia reforged [+X Curse damage] does NOT work / bugged
Sinathia mace set [+X Curse spell damage] works.
Helmet affix [+X Spell damage for Curses] works.
All three add FLAT damage to Curses but worded differently, which is confusing.
Test were done on Decrepify Pearls of the Swine on Bone Curse Signet of Agony

[lament kernel]

what means +2 to spell minion skills or +2 to strenght minion skills on items?

[obtuse quest]

Minions that have the spell or strength tag

[obtuse quest]

The 2nd and the 3rd is effectively the same.
The first adds to all curses, even if they aren't a spell.
Which means in theory, the 1st one adds to something like Acid Skin, which ISN'T a spell.

[lament kernel]

thank you ❤️

[wicked blade]

yes, that what happened. The [+X Curse damage ] should work on non-spell curse, but the test on dummy show no changes at all.

not even on Acid Skin, since that's the only non-spell Curse

[obtuse quest]

Sounds like a bug then.

I assume you already taken into account reforge's % cursed damage?

[wicked blade]

yep, Decrepify on helmet with [+44 curse spell damage] ended up with almost double damage compared to a reforged mace with [+99 curse damage] and [+201% increased curse damage],

[finite galleon]

Waaiiiit, power fantasy? I thought everyone plays pets cuz they're cute

[finite galleon]

I should've known looking at your comments in the chronicon server

[warped steppe]

Does anybody have a minion build that's tanky and performs without actually having to snapshot?

[lost gale]

forged weapons

[finite galleon]

Molbert, I need you to listen to me, Molbert.

[warped steppe]

Acolyte of course - already went through 3 sentinels 🙂

[finite galleon]

Snapshot is going away next patch. This is our final opportunity to bask in all its glory.

A pet player's life cannot possibly be complete

without giving himself in to the power

[warped steppe]

Well I do enjoy the playstyle - I do hate the "buffing". Even if it's only a minute it takes it's still annoying. But damn one is tanky with 100% block chance, decent armor, 2 red rings and vessel

[finite galleon]

Okay in that case you won't be wanting to play abomination to begin with. Even without snapshot it's still going to take more than 1 minute thar's for sure.

[warped steppe]

Wonder if I can actually create macro for it in the Logitech G-Hub app

[lost gale]

I wouldn't recommend it, these devs do not like macros one bit

idk if they actually try to detect & ban them or not but they're quite explicit that any gameplay that either is macro-able or makes players want to macro is a failure of design and they'd want to introduce stuff to change that

[finite galleon]

FeelsBadMan

[warped steppe]

I play a skeleton mage exploding skeleton warriors, wraith and volatile zombie build. It works wonders - I'm not really going for uber abberroth. At 250 corruption it's safe as f... and clearing is excellent.

Wraiths for single target
Skeletons for clearing
Zombies for ward generation

[lost gale]

if you play controller you could use steam input to macro spam stuff but idk

and obviously numlocking is allowed

[finite galleon]

Noice, noice

[warped steppe]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7myOK6A build planner - as you can probably see I have to swap all gear except from boots and belt on summon - set the spells and then swap back

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (21) / Necromancer (61) / Lich (9) / Warlock (18)

General:

▸ Health: 3,041, Regen: 50.54/s
▸ Mana: 610.49, Regen: 12.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 305%, Regen: 201/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 34 Dex / 71 Int / 11 Att / 49 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 76% / 76% / 79% / 104% / 318% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 705
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (184)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,623)
▸ Block Chance: 101%, Mitigation: 51% (2,055)

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Skeletal Mage / Summon Volatile Zombie / Dread Shade / Summon Wraith

[warped steppe]

I actually wonder about the scaling tags on Dread Shade - says necrotic. But Dread Shade scales with nothing, right?

[finite galleon]

yeah that governs which items affect it when it comes to +lvls

[finite galleon]

Wait why are you on the void res blessing when you've got that amulet?

[warped steppe]

Just because - there's nothing really useful there for the build anyway?

Maybe the ward thing - hand that one but scapped it. Didn't notice any significant wrop in my ward

[finite galleon]

Well there's flat life or ward decay threshold, whichever you prefer

[warped steppe]

It's probably also because I tried out Aurora's at some point. But yeah I should probably swap it

[finite galleon]

damn I cannot remember items by names at all

rip

[warped steppe]

🙂

[finite galleon]

Ohhh

[warped steppe]

just because I am not endurance capped so

[finite galleon]

Yeah this is a pog one

[warped steppe]

yeah and funny thing is - you pretty much always runs at 50%-75% with that shield so dropping below 30% is not that off the table. And with the added endurance and instant heal to full is worth considering

[finite galleon]

True, maybe next patch there'll be a less cringe shield

[warped steppe]

Also - Orian's was something I was opting for when I tried making the build without having to snapshot. I was scaling the mages with mana

Did anybody try to create a minion build around this item?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgzCAcAsQ

If that could be done with skeletal rogues, poison mages and poison dread shade those minions would be close to unkillable with 8% leech?

[obtuse quest]

#💀┃acolyte message

[wispy panther]

will profane get converted to ice/fire if i take the skeletal mages pyro/cryo

[obtuse quest]

No

[silver night]

Guys, why this echoes is so hard. The enemy is gives crazy dmg

[lament kernel]

36% increased damage?

[finite galleon]

Maybe you got marked for death?

[silver night]

i mean even the normal mobs are so tanky

[lament kernel]

also 36:% incrrased health... but yeah in cemetary monsters are much stronger i feel

[obtuse quest]

So, possessed enemies have double stats-

[atomic atlas]

juiced tombs... double champion spawn, let me click this exile mage next to them. two mage and champion spawned everyones possessed...

[silver night]

😭

look at my run, maybe can gives some eval

[obtuse quest]

Woah, death!

[silver night]

i feel wanna give up on that echoes, the boss dmg is unnatural somehow even timeline boss give some space

[atomic atlas]

are you supposed to be critting?

oh ur witchfire

[silver night]

finally 😭

[drifting idol]

sold my 2 of my exalted with 2 tier7 stats

totally did not know about how i could use them in crafting lmao

[gritty cargo]

im zooming

[rigid matrix]

hi, wanna ask about wraithlord necromancer... is it possible for it to reach uber aberoth like the other meta builds? or is abombination necromancer the only one that can do uber aberoth?

[brazen wigeon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVqnWpPo can this work?...

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (14) / Warlock (79)

General:

▸ Health: 2,666, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 342.51, Regen: 12.48/s
▸ Ward Retention: 243%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 13 Dex / 84 Int / 13 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 153% / 102% / 102% / 92% / 162% / 184% / 153%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 533
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (71)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,498)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Sacrifice / Rip Blood / Summon Volatile Zombie / Profane Veil

[pearl snow]

I dont think you have nearly enough mana regen to use Cruelty

[brazen wigeon]

that;s where rip blood comes in

[pearl snow]

Unless youve tested it yourself I still dont think its enough but not like I have that gear. I’d also say it looks like you are trying to buff Sacrifice as much as possible but then you run 2 minion items for crit. Might be best to further buff Sacrifice

[brazen wigeon]

it's in diapers

[brazen wigeon]

how does hollow lich and mountain helm interact? do I lose extra damage from leech on crit?

[pearl snow]

Hollow Lich should convert it before anything happens I think

[obtuse quest]

Leech on crit is conditional, it disables it for no benefit.

[obtuse quest]

The current best wraithlord player that has hit 5k c currently has not cleared uberroth.

[rigid matrix]

D:

[obtuse quest]

Curelty will negative your mana before you can even press rip blood, making it useless.

[finite galleon]

Someone mentioned that it's been done with wraithlord too. Anyway, psst, puppet, here's the thing: Could you really live the rest of your life with no regret, if you do not embrace the ABOM power? (Also what do I have to do to uhh, to get a hold of those thigh high pics)

Ahh shit I'm wrong apparently

[rigid matrix]

[finite galleon]

Well, you know, the thing you mentioned in your bio - nvm, nvm

[pearl snow]

Salty

Are uh you down bad?

[finite galleon]

Hard to deny that, yes

[obtuse quest]

[finite galleon]

btw kzb sama

some ppl were asking for videos of abom snapshotting, so I went ahead and recorded one, along with a guide, woohoo

I'm gonna force you to check it out once it's published

[obtuse quest]

Bruh LOL

[finite galleon]

pwease

🥹

[obtuse quest]

I'm not the minion expert here sir

[finite galleon]

🥺 But you're the #1 expert in my heart

[rigid matrix]

sus chinese guy

[finite galleon]

HEY

okay that's a fairly factual description

but still

[split bluff]

What's the fastest way to level an acolyte alt, in terms of skills and gear?

[vivid monolith]

Uh, probably beefing up minions so they just tear through things, since that'll be more hits per second than what you can pull early on

[split bluff]

I was thinking the fire dot alt build with the Spirits

[vivid monolith]

Tbh I just play... whatever I feel like on alts. I know it isn't "meta" to level with certain skills, but I'm never going to play everything at a fully built level, so I like seeing how stuff works

[split bluff]

That's fair. Fun above all else

[obtuse quest]

Anything warlock fissure related.

[brazen wigeon]

Lich should give 1% more damage per missing HP, not increase

that's like running T5 mod on an item

way too weak

[split bluff]

Cheers! 👍

[brazen wigeon]

so I lose damage from hollow lich passive right?

[obtuse quest]

You don't get anything basically. The leech on crit becomes dead.

[atomic atlas]

wouldnt hollow lich be good for witchfire?

[pearl snow]

Hollow Lich is universally good

Its just gear dependent

[obtuse quest]

Yes, gotta slot in leech though.

[vivid kernel]

ok i have pushed this to 500c, i think im done
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0e7wwzB

pivoted back to int on some nodes because of the ladle

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 99

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (28) / Warlock (64)

General:

▸ Health: 1,441, Regen: 25.02/s
▸ Mana: 301, Regen: 15.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 329%, Regen: 346/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 37 Dex / 106 Int / 13 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 78% / 78% / 127% / 121% / 323% / 160%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 455
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (545)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,835)
▸ Block Chance: 20%, Mitigation: 22% (330)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Chaos Bolts / Bone Curse / Spirit Plague / Chthonic Fissure

[pearl snow]

Nice!

I’ve had 3 people tell me this season alone that bleed cant hit 500 lmao

[vivid kernel]

oh wait thats still 99, this is the 100 version
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEmE0yRB

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (32) / Warlock (61)

General:

▸ Health: 1,452, Regen: 20.2/s
▸ Mana: 306.51, Regen: 15.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 344%, Regen: 352/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 37 Dex / 116 Int / 13 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 78% / 78% / 127% / 78% / 323% / 160%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 457
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (545)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,835)
▸ Block Chance: 20%, Mitigation: 22% (330)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Chaos Bolts / Bone Curse / Spirit Plague / Chthonic Fissure

[atomic atlas]

2 lp red ring

[vivid kernel]

tbf, its 2 red rings

insane crutch

[vivid kernel]

nemesis, those 2 stats are useless to me

[atomic atlas]

unucky

[pearl snow]

True, I think its still possible without youll just get deleted more often

But those 3 had some abborrent gear lol

[pearl snow]

Went all in on that cast speed. Is it a massive difference? I know I went up to like 350cr with bleed before I got lazy on finding the rest of the gear

Had pretty minimal cast speed

[vivid kernel]

i think its a big impact, going by this bleed scaling post it loses to "more" modifiers and bleed chance https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/u766ru/bleed_ailment_scaling/

but cast speed is a very common affix, also, rip blood gives me fixed ward per hit, the faster i hit, the more ward i get

[pearl snow]

Oh I havent seen that post at all

I was getting to like 750 stacks on a dummy without so I thought it was fine

Maybe that ward gen etc is a major difference

I keep overlooking cast speed

[vivid kernel]

i regularly hit 999 stacks i cant even tell how high it goes

[pearl snow]

Damn okay

Adjusting that in future

Maybe I go back to my bleed setup

I was doing CB and Harvest

[vivid kernel]

ok i gave it a proper test at the dummy, with fissure down and just spamming bolt i hit 900+ stacks, not exactly breaking 999

i think it depends on the size of the enemy too

if all hits of bolt land its much stronger

may be why i often notice it just capping out when running echoes

one thing i feel like would improve survivability is to focus on health instead of ward, with my specific unique setup, there's endurance, leech, health gain on kill, etc,that's all pretty much doing nothing right now

at this point its too late for me to pivot, but something to keep in mind

[calm dome]

Nemesis gave me this wand and not sure what to do with it but it seems like something I can use as Acolyte. Mana stacking crit hungering souls? Or is that not viable enough

[pearl snow]

Yeah good ideas

[vivid kernel]

ah if i stand point blank on the dummy with fissure then i consistently break 1k

something to do with what bolts hit i guess
i feel like the most impactful affix is definitely chaos bolt on direct cast on the helm

at T7 its basically +2 bolts for free

each one gives you mana back on hit, solves all the mana concerns

[obtuse quest]

You're er, about 2 versions late for that build.

[calm dome]

Dang. I guess it will rot in my stash

[vivid monolith]

Do it anyway

Just don't expect to go past abby

[swift wren]

Does new drain life build now use pearls of swine instead of nihilis or is that only for uberoth?

[obtuse quest]

You probably use pearls before you get nihilis.

[swift wren]

Ok, looks like it's both then cause my understanding is pearls for damage since you can get 100% crit via acid skin

So nihilis for most then pearls for uberoth to really cap that damage

[obtuse quest]

Acid Skin without being warlock just gives you 20% flat final crit, sooo ehhh?

Iirc not every coal build uses bone curse

[swift wren]

Oh, the one I was following did

[dry bridge]

what are good unique helmets for stygian coal lich?

[swift wren]

I was honestly curious about that too, I figured I was mathing weird but 20 final doesn't seem like a ton, 80 vs 100 is meh for the other stuff you lose

[obtuse quest]

Either a defensive one like boneclamor or decayed skull, or just run an exalted.

[swift wren]

Do people really like boneclamor? I feel like it does very little vs decayed skull if you're going for defenses

[obtuse quest]

Warlock already stacks necrotic res, so it's kinda free.

[finite galleon]

Well it's the highest INT helmet for Lich's Scorn Dread Shade purposes, so that's a thing too, if you're a based individual like I am

[swift wren]

True but for coal lich, you rely on death seal so don't really want too much ward, right?

And I agree about the int but if you're going for def, I'd think that decayed skull would end up providing more esp with dot help

[obtuse quest]

You wouldn't want ward at all, Death Seal eats it and then hard locks it to 0.

So in that case yes, decayed skull or an exalted.

[calm dome]

Yeah I might just for fun. Only thing I can see that could use that wand is a death seal hungering souls lich though. Could be fun

[neon vigil]

For Cthonic Fissure->Chaotic Rupture (chaos bolts from rift), it says there's a chance for no extra projectiles. Does that include the base additional projectiles (eg it may only shoot 1 bolt), or just any extra projectiles from the Chaos Bolts tree (eg it'll always shoot at least 4, but maybe more if you have them in the tree)?

[vivid kernel]

based on the wording of chtonic aura in the chaos bolt tree, i assume its the latter

specifically uses the phrase "extra projectiles" here, even the icon is the same

[obtuse quest]

Anything that boosts it past the default number. (So 4, or 1 if you took the one big shot node)

[neon vigil]

That's what I figured, but I wasn't 100% and I'm at work (slow) so I can't test.

[vivid kernel]

ah yes, the theorycrafting while at work
truly the best dishes cooked up during this period

[neon vigil]

Speaking of, who's the resident theorycrafter anyway

I have had just the stupidest idea rolling around in my head

and I wanted some opinions

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxaZrpdo

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (20) / Lich (10) / Warlock (37)

General:

▸ Health: 1,920, Regen: 216/s
▸ Mana: 161.51, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 158%, Regen: 96/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 58 Dex / 59 Int / 1 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 43% / 43% / 43% / 43% / 289% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 384
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (232)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 20% (778)
▸ Block Chance: 41%, Mitigation: 54% (2,370)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Summon Volatile Zombie / Harvest / Profane Veil

[neon vigil]

the basic plan is rift, rift, rift, veil, repeat

mana is.. a concern

I call it corpse chaos

rifts spawn zombies (along with rings), veil eats zombies or skeles to make very strong zombies, zombies pause to vomit before getting exploded by bolts, harvest and apogee buff the already heavily buffed ones

bolts cause booms and harvests, which should buff zombies even more

along with apogee

rifts should reduce veil cooldown

from curse tag

anything unfilled is just left open to whatever

[obtuse quest]

Didn't mass stack Int or convert it to fire
DISSAPOINTMENT

[neon vigil]

Yeah but apogee is necrotic conversion

and the occasional spirit will res strip

along with harvest

[obtuse quest]

Oh apogee

[neon vigil]

I was squeezing in extra int but it craves dex for the harvest

I figured ~50 dex should be enough to keep a lot of triggered harvests happening with 3x rifts

[obtuse quest]

The buff kinda only applies to whatever that was up when you proc it and isn't a universal aura so it only buffs one waves worth, not sure if it's worth the slot.

[neon vigil]

yeah but it SHOULD be constantly happening

for both apogee and harvest

[obtuse quest]

It has a 1 second ICD so your mileage may vary

[neon vigil]

still not the end of the world. I considered putting extra points into vomit because despite it not being AS good as just exploding, it is extra damage until it does explode. And they're vomiting anyway.

[obtuse quest]

Personally, throwing the points at leap attack and path of destruction means chaos bolted zombies that come from apocalypse hit the whole screen-

[obtuse quest]

You might as well throw points into explosion area since that's the main chunk of your damage.

[neon vigil]

Will the chaos bolt actually hit them if they are leaping?

I figure the rift spawning will cause them to generate slower than most forms of manual casting

[obtuse quest]

Leap makes them hit their target sooner so they vomit sooner instead of walking like monkeys. Cuts down on travel time.

[neon vigil]

Oh right, I was assuming removing the vomit, I gotcha

[obtuse quest]

Oh no you want vomit so you have an opening to CB them lmao

[neon vigil]

Ya

That's what I figured.

Also allows the rings to apply, which is a little bit of free +flat too, which is nice

[obtuse quest]

You're not necro so you're missing a good chunk of the damage nodes necro has, so it's probably just okay?

Without enough INT it's kinda hard to make up for the lost nodes.

[neon vigil]

Well see I was thinking about that, and I'm not sure there's a lot of damage nodes that apply to zombie in the back half of necro, is there? Because the bottom half is defense/skeles, Rite of Undeath is very good, there's 10 flat, and there's crit along the top with aspd/cspd, and aspd/cspd does nothing. Really the big ones seem to be crit chance/damage, flat damage, and the huge +15% 10 pointer

Actually does Harvest->Spirit Shards only apply on manual use? Because if so, Harvest is dead and I should give up

[wintry flame]

nope

procs work

[neon vigil]

nice

[wintry flame]

but I'll show you something one sec I gotta set it up

[neon vigil]

I am all ears

[wintry flame]

sorry, idk if I can show but with Necro you can snapshot using dread shade to get more dmg for zombies. I was doing testing on using minion tp and stationary zombies to lock them in dread shade buff and spam chaos to clear

[neon vigil]

interesting

[wintry flame]

it's got it's flaws tho, but idk maybe the idea is useful

[swift wren]

What stats do I even look for on mad alchemist ladel? Spell damage? Combined ailment %?

[pearl snow]

Well the % spell dmg doesnt have a roll so you’d want high ailment % to more reliably get the 8 total negative ailments. Though thats usually not so hard on lock

If you are hit based Shred Armor is your best output on there

Frailty and Slow are great utility and defensive

[swift wren]

Hit based as in stygian coal?

[pearl snow]

I assume the beams are hits yeah

[swift wren]

Yeah they're hits

The 12 to 16 spell damage does like nothing, right? Or is it potentially 25% increase from 12 to 16? Idk how base truly works in this game

Oh wow, 12 to 16 on just the ladel makes a 12% diff for me. Might be worth worrying about that too 😦

[pearl snow]

Min maxing it yeah youd want the best implicit flat spell dmg roll and shred armor plus frailty

but in terms of dps output its just spell dmg and shred armor

[lyric idol]

what are some stupidly fun acolyte builds out there?

[pearl snow]

For Necro Abom can be pretty fun, you just have a giga large minion.
For Lich people really like Stygian Coal because you kinda just beam everything in sight with your lasters.
For Warlock I really like Flame Whip, but Witchfire has really cool mechanics because you get free DoT proflif without doing anything every 15seconds

[brazen wigeon]

experiment is going on...kinda funny

[lyric idol]

I'm leaning towards minions again... either big boi wraith or big boi abom hmm

[placid heart]

What are some good unique helmets for stygian coal build?

[placid heart]

are you int stacking?

[placid heart]

able to get around 3k shield just from self cursing

[brazen wigeon]

I go up to 5000 when I curse myself

I hoped to get 99% more damage from lich mastery but it;s like I have 1 T5 damage modifier on gear

very weak

[placid heart]

yea 99% more dmg for all that investment is not really worth it

[brazen wigeon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7mO4kZA atm, experiment in progress

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 71

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (36) / Warlock (28)

General:

▸ Health: 1,522, Regen: 9.56/s
▸ Mana: 278.86, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 198%, Regen: 15/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 8 Dex / 75 Int / 8 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 73% / 83% / 58% / 77% / 60% / 109% / 54%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 21%, Threshold: 304
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (543)

Used skills:

Ghostflame / Drain Life / Bone Curse / Wandering Spirits / Marrow Shards

[brazen wigeon]

I do regen like 800 ward per second now I wonder if I can get up to 10K ward iddle with like 3K HP

[placid heart]

it would probably just be more powerful to do twisted heart

[brazen wigeon]

it should be more damage IMO like null portent

I mean

event horizon

[short girder]

GOD I HATE LAGON BOSS

[gritty cargo]

I gain 1,146 ward per second and get to about 4400 on 2160 hp before it stops going up

im not really spec too heavily into it its kinda what comes with my setup

If I unspec from movespeed I could probably juice it

[placid heart]

i just checked i only have 372 ward per second but my stable ward is around 3k, i would highly reccomend speccing more into an intelligence build if you want to go heavy into ward

[brazen wigeon]

I'm lvl 71 atm, I'm not even at the end of lich tree

there's 20 intelligence waiting for me alone

[placid heart]

i am only 81

and i have not even done most of the idols /passive quests

[brazen wigeon]

I'm just using all low life lich nodes that boost damage but somehow damage still suck

[placid heart]

because i am lazy and it is an alt

[drifting idol]

wait

[brazen wigeon]

also need to get 4 idols with more spell damage when on low life

[drifting idol]

why did lagon slam kill me during profane veil loool

[placid heart]

is it more damage or increased?

[brazen wigeon]

increased, sadly

[placid heart]

so useless

[brazen wigeon]

I'm having 14 life and I get measly 99% increased damage, while single ornate idol gives up to 75%

[placid heart]

just stacking intelligence gives you innate increased damage on skills

and look at all these buffs just from stacking intelligence

[brazen wigeon]

I don't use reaper form

[placid heart]

you don't need to use reaper form

[brazen wigeon]

can't use it on low life reaper

[placid heart]

but the amount of life you lose is not given back in ward anyways

[brazen wigeon]

tho I must admit that ghostflame with marrow shard spam is funny

I can ignore marrow shards eating my life so I took all damage in exchange of cost nodes

they are criting for 10K now but still suck compared to some other DPs of some classes

[placid heart]

also take a look at this death seal is probably the most powerful lich skill

[brazen wigeon]

I can't use death seal

I use hollow lich

so I stay low life all the time

I got literaly 14 life

if I use death seal and remove my ward even tickle would kill me

[placid heart]

i see death seal is kind of useless without reaper form

[brazen wigeon]

no hollow lich is useless with death seal

it's meant to be used to keep lich passive 99% incrased damage mod from mastery

but it;s too damn weal that it should be more damage IMO like event horizon

[placid heart]

i have that passive all the time too just from using death seal and reaper form

[brazen wigeon]

double damage as tradeoff for hollow lich lowlife build feels reasonable

[placid heart]

since it kicks me out of death seal if i take too much dmg and return to normal form with full hp

see basically always low life anyways

[brazen wigeon]

this is funny interaction

[placid heart]

you are using pearls of swine right?

[brazen wigeon]

yes

but with acid skin

[placid heart]

then you inflict a +20% crit chance on the enemy

[brazen wigeon]

since ghostflame can add decrepify

1% more damage per 5 missing life

strong curse on low life as hell

I am so tempted to just roll warlock instead of lich

I have acess to all good nodes on warlock anyway

that 99% increased damage is dogshiet compared to ike 15% more damage from cursed from warlock

I plan to run this currently

but I;m thinking of changing

[placid heart]

to what kind of build

[brazen wigeon]

to this

tho I would have 30 less intelligence or so

self cooking

[placid heart]

i just use stygian coal and use 0 brain power

[gritty cargo]

points in ghost is real valuable just snapshot decrepify on bone curse with a pearls of swine

plus you hold it the whole map after snapshotting the flat damage from rip blood?

decrepify from that node wouldnt even hit anything

[gritty cargo]

switching off of lich to warlock on phys build is hard cause you lose the free 34% phys pen

[atomic atlas]

lich is so tanky

[obtuse quest]

Playing Lich without using Reaper Form OR Death Seal, why are you playing Lich for? Most of the low life nodes are accessible as Warlock.

[kind forge]

time to play the worst build uwu

[half bone]

im playing / leveling again since 1.0. what is the ideal way to level up as minions during the campaign? i went fire archers, fire golem and fire arch mage. still in ep 3/4. first time i went rogues and no specific element. is frost bad i never see anyone using them to level and havent tried that element myself

[kind forge]

probably a dumb idea and totally not worth it because nihilis and omni exists but if you used bone curse aura and the necklaces that give bone curse a second curse ... would you have 2 curses on you?

bone curse and the curse from the ammy

[pearl snow]

Frost stuff on Acolyte doesn’t have much scaling so its not really used. I assume leveling its not a big deal which element upu go honestly

[kind forge]

need more frostbite stuff

[pearl snow]

A lot of Acolytes dont even use Nihilis honestly.
But it should give you double curses

[kind forge]

how many curses can you self inflict

[pearl snow]

Uh I think 3.
Torment + amulet bone curse + whatever amulet you chise

[kind forge]

just wondering cuz that ammy gives like 130 ward per second per curse on you

[obtuse quest]

4 if you’re willing to use that crap shield that self marked for death

[kind forge]

marked for death is a curse?

if so you can add that directly from bone curse or profain veil trees

[kind forge]

ic

so 3 from bone curse and one from fissure

400 ward gen uwu + 530 if warlock

and all you need to do is wear ankle weights

xD

[lost gale]

if you're scaling curse stuff then self bone curse is actually pretty dangerous

[median pebble]

any torment warlocks managed to kill uberoth and could share their build?

[vivid kernel]

Yes, I know because I tried and I think it’s fatal

It’s even worse because mark for death if you specced it also gets inflicted on you

I was considering this exact ward go brrrr thing from self cursing but quickly found out why a curse is a curse

… actually now that I think about it.

Torment - acceptable, minus move speed is bad but for warlocks at least can be mitigated by haste on hit/kill. I’m using it now

Mark for death - can mitigate by overcap res

Bone curse - maybe not so bad if you’re not scaling it. When I tried previously I had pretty high spell damage.

Bonus amulet curse - decrepify is wild and not worth it, but maybe penance is alright

Hmmmm

Not for my own build I need the decrepify, but maybe someone else can cook something with another necklace version

[kind forge]

bone curse is kinda oof

i mean if you spec into aura for self curse ... if you went profain veil route you can ignore the slow

but ye to get aura curse you gain slowness debuff ... and youll probably go chill too just cuz

massive movement speed nerf + torment movement speed nerf

[vivid kernel]

One thing I didn’t test is whether the bone curse 12% kill threshold also works on you, would be hilarious

[kind forge]

you could snowblind to be chill immune but there would always be that slow ... and it means no boneclamor

[kind forge]

LOL gl

oh ye acid skin is probably free cuz you could just remove all bonus dmg from crits with gear/blessing

which you would want to do anyway

[vivid kernel]

Right….

[kind forge]

lol

warlock kinda stole liches thing with curses ngl

harvest being curse stuff ... while also looking like reap/lich form

[obtuse quest]

Yes. Saving grace is that it has the same logic as boss ward, so it can’t proc while you have ward.

[kind forge]

LOL gg

[lost gale]

self curse penance can be a ward engine with ward on block and chance to gain ward when hit idols.

You get hit with both penance and bone curse whenever you hit something so you cannot be scaling bone curse, it's easy to make bone curse hit you too hard to achieve a net gain of ward.

also do gain health on block rather than ward but that's just like mediocre leech rather than 10-20k sustained ward

[kind forge]

lol

[warped steppe]

Is there somewhere you can see your minion dps? For example my skeleton mages?

I see there are calculated values on other spells on my VK so just wonder if there is something similar to help gearing on minion builds

[gritty cargo]

Marked from death applies with 1 point in reaper form it's weird to have it on bone curse

[obtuse quest]

Pen and paper and finding the flat damage from letools, since most minions have more than one attack

[obtuse quest]

Aint nobody got points for that node that is also not 100% consistent

[gritty cargo]

?

[obtuse quest]

Mostly: There’s better, more consistent things to put your reaper form points in, unless you’re going for the poison convert.

[glass estuary]

Is there anyone here who has a "better" Abomination guide, than the one they have published on MaxRoll? Maybe one they have found are a little better at speed farming/monolith runs... because it does seem to be rated quite poorly there, and it does seem it needs snapshotting to be good?

[silver night]

guys, which one is better for exsa?

[obtuse quest]

Abom is.. just 2/3 of the effort without snapshotting, and works similary style wise, it'll still be kinda bad in clear. If you want a necro build that's better for clear, get wraithlord.

[lost gale]

or profane oblation

[glass estuary]

Can they both do uber abarroth as well?

or is that a no-go?

[obtuse quest]

Abom is currently the only one that has cleared uberroth.

[glass estuary]

Oh ok

[obtuse quest]

Last I know there's a 5k corruption wraithlord player that's still trying to clear uberroth with it.

[glass estuary]

... what? 5k corruption?!?! wtf

Is there anyone who can share a link to a good wraithlord build guide then... (Also.. what build is best for levelling. Currently have a level 96 Primalist, and a level 22 acolyte)

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/keepers-wraithlord-necromancer

[stuck owl]

Keeper's Wraithlord Necromancer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class

Acolyte / Necromancer

Used skills

• Infernal Shade
• Dread Shade
• Transplant
• Bone Curse
• Summon Wraith

Used unique items

• Wraithlord's Harbour
• Exsanguinous
• Usurper's Mandate
• Blood of the Exile
• Death Rattle
• Ambitions of an Erased Acolyte

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Arena / Minions

Created by keeper184 · Feb 20, 2025, 1:21 PM

[glass estuary]

thanks 🙂

@obtuse quest Any recommendation of which guide to use for levelling? And when would you say is minimum level to switch to that above build?

[obtuse quest]

Anything works imo for leveling. I got no recommendations on when you should swap to it, i'm not sure either

[glass estuary]

So if I get that unique helmet, I can even use that for levelling also?

Ah wait.. level 65 minimum

nvm

lol

[kind forge]

probably the left side ... cuz armour and int

[silver night]

alrait

[kind forge]

pray for int

guaruntee fissure and pray for int ... then the rest can be either or xD

[warped steppe]

Wraithlords at 5k corruption while I am still searching for a way to make my mages work flawlessly 🙂

[kind forge]

lol

[vivid kernel]

5k holy shiet

aight next time i play acolyte ill try a "real build" ™️ by someone who knows what they're doing

[median pebble]

has someone tested is marinas lost soul or wrongwarp better for torment lock?

[kind forge]

time to play the worst build in the game uwu

[obtuse quest]

technically wrong relic!

[kind forge]

naur

which one then? xD

[obtuse quest]

muramasa iirc, but tbh that works too for pure damage

[kind forge]

doesnt murmasa focus on the curses and not harvest tho?

like obviously harvest mana gain is good but everything else is curse related

curse dmg ... curse cast speed uwu

[obtuse quest]

How else are uyou going to let harvest do it's double damage-

[kind forge]

i mean the mod exists

its like 20 something mana per harvest hit

[obtuse quest]

That's a body armour affix, but ye

Are you really going to use a titan LP slot for it?

[kind forge]

probably ... at least temporarliy

6 mana on hit is not gonna cover the like 20+ mana drain on grim harvest

i mean i do have one ... i need to get another +4 to harvest tho to put on it

the worst part about leveling builds is when the leveling build is better than the build you wanna swap to kek

[silver night]

guys, i'm following this build to guide me https://www.icy-veins.com/last-epoch/acolyte-leveling-build?area=area_4#acolyte-leveling-build. But i realized now seems like its out of date since now its patch 1.2. There is recomended build to play witchfire double alinment overload?

[glass estuary]

Thats the guide I was using up until level 25'ish.. I didn't like it too much either

[chrome mason]

Maxroll guide is a breeze for leveling

Used it to 70 then swapped to coal

[silver night]

i using that until level 95 😭

[silver night]

what coal?

[lament kernel]

off hand unique i think

[silver night]

ohh 😭 i think that is a website as well

oh u mean stygian coal build?

[chrome mason]

😅 Yeah the stygian coal build

[silver night]

just saw that on maxroll

[chrome mason]

Yup, i swapped to it around 70 i think, or whenever i had enough mana for it to feel comfortable

[silver night]

i prefer want to still playing warlock with fissure + chaos bolt. But from what i saw on icy-veins no more guide to end game with that double alinment overload playstyle

i saw on YT as well, there is someone play double alinment but it'susing rip blood as well

[lament kernel]

like you can play what you want and its more how high your corruption can go 😋

[silver night]

🤣 my corruption still 250 and it's so hard already

the boss + possesed = 1 shot

[kind forge]

3 ailment lel

bleed damned and ignite

[silver night]

oh u right

[kind forge]

damned and ignite are damage sources while bleed is just there for the rip blood buffing

[silver night]

he is playing using infernal shade mostly

[kind forge]

OH that build

ye i know ... not sure tho

[silver night]

yep, i think that's for the single target thing

[kind forge]

ye

[silver night]

even in maxroll there is no guide play using fissure+chaos bolt only. Are the playstyle using that is out of date for this season?

i mean, fissure+chaos+bone+transplant and veil seems decent but somehow there is something missing

[obtuse quest]

That byitself doesn’t say anything since there’s at least 5 builds I can think of that can use that combination of skills

[vivid kernel]

with the power of 2 red rings you too could reach 500C

[silver night]

i think i should try using infernal shade for single target

btw my chaos bolt can gives bone curse to enemy. The bone curse is scaling with all of it's skill tree right?

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[silver night]

i'll try using infernal shade, i hope it's works

[rigid matrix]

what build is that?

[gritty cargo]

think hes doing a melee harvest lich

[rigid matrix]

ah...

[finite galleon]

Psst, I'll let you get a sneak peek of my super secret abomination guide (that was rejected by dammit due to my shit formatting KEKW, hopefully my editing has fixed that)

As long as you follow these simple steps, you'll end up with an abomination that uhh, that is pretty much just like any other abomination, and you'll have to do it all over again the next time you want to play

[drifting idol]

just when i thought ARPG is easy going hack and slash

bro pulls out his essay

aaaaand i heard poe is worse 💀

[obtuse quest]

To be fair, he's doing the "I want to snapshot abom to hell and back" strat.

[drifting idol]

its true but like i am quite amazed by how complex the theorycrafting is and how the actual play is infinitely more straightforward

any build

[finite galleon]

Yeah the "sifting through all possible options for animate guardian and raise spectre" part was highly time consuming

but oh well, not like I can ever reliably get myself a kingmaker if I insist on not trading

At least playing in pob was pretty fun

[drifting idol]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRmmZrYB

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (11) / Warlock (72)

General:

▸ Health: 1,721, Regen: 18.6/s
▸ Mana: 192.34, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 262%, Regen: 293/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 9 Dex / 35 Int / 2 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 151% / 68% / 133% / 83% / 101% / 296% / 55%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 344
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (505)

Used skills:

Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Profane Veil / Spirit Plague / Bone Curse

[drifting idol]

newbie at 150 corruption, thinking about changing my wand and boots right now

[pearl snow]

Torment with Witchfire?

[drifting idol]

just a random build i am playing

[pearl snow]

Ah

Nice

[drifting idol]

i mean they are necrotic damage right?

[pearl snow]

Witchfire is half necrotic but yeah

[drifting idol]

what does that exactly entail though

[pearl snow]

Witchfire does half fire and half necrotic.
So any modifiers for either dmg type only scale half its dmg

Your build can 100% work btw

Just know Spell dmg does scale Witchfire

It scales your torment

[drifting idol]

thought they dont

[pearl snow]

Doesnt

[drifting idol]

so whats the idea here, think i should scale into dot?

[pearl snow]

Auto correct

More DoT in general unless you wanna all in Torment

Torment scales super well with Crit multi and Spell dmg and Int

Witchfire scales very well with Chance to Ignite, Chance to Damned on hit, and DoT

Curse Dmg too if you have the relic

[drifting idol]

🤔 👍

Now i feel like i have a lead to go somewhere alright

[opaque coyote]

Am I wrong or is this video that claims to beat uber aberroth showing normal aberroth kill instead? https://youtu.be/YEZAhu7s-ck?si=np5zhiSQQgc3Enm5

[finite galleon]

It's at the end of the video it looks like

[pearl snow]

Yeah the end of the video

[hearty meadow]

Can you "spread" spirit plague to the same target? It seems like it's refreshing on bosses way past the 3 sec duration but I can't figure out why.

[old hull]

If you have chaos bolts refreshing it there's that, otherwise I'm not sure

[hearty meadow]

TIL that's a thing you can do

I don't think I have that though?

[obtuse quest]

It can spread back to the same target if the target does not have an existing spirit plague.

Eg: If you have two bosses, and you have the "Auto spread after 3 seconds" node and your spirit plague has a duration of less than 6 seconds, it will spread between them until one of them dies.

[hearty meadow]

Makes sense. But that won't work against just one target right?

I can't even find the node that refreshes spirit plague from chaos bolts

Oh never mind I'm stupid. Spirit plague is a curse

Carry on y'all

[split bluff]

Came here to ask, is this a good mid game item?

[pearl snow]

Yeah, even if you don’t use skeles theres a little bit of minion dmg on it

Great base too

[split bluff]

Thank you!
I'm actually playing a Primalist Druid and hunting staves, but for some reason, the game is showering me with Acolyte gear, decent as well

[meager dove]

does anyone know of any way to cleanse other then the profane veil node and potions?

[pearl snow]

Theres a belt affix

Oh that’s potions

Lol

[meager dove]

that is potions right yeah

[pearl snow]

Only passive on Acolyte is a curse cleanse so

I’m no help

[meager dove]

I am asking bc the abby fight you basically must cleanse right? is fragility a curse

[pearl snow]

It is not

According to LET

The only Abby Curse is the -all res and its not cleansable

[meager dove]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ailments/aterroth_frailty

I could swear he puts 3 stacks of that on me and it can be cleansed

[obtuse quest]

It can indeed be cleansed, but it is not a curse. Just a generic debuff.
But all acolyte tools for cleanse is just Veil and potions.

[finite galleon]

I suppose not wanting necro to be able to cleanse the infinite poison stacks from dread shade is partly why it is this way

[drifting idol]

🤔

[pearl snow]

@obtuse quest do you know of the top of your head how impactful the armor shred from all of the K is if you went that route?