💀┃acolyte

[wintry flame]

and setting up every attempt is tiring

[wise basalt]

I don't need more damage but I will probably need the body armor and play low life with a bunch of ward

[wintry flame]

I can just not use the effect and kill him but it's way slower and I ahve to stay in range of dread shade to get capped armor

[wintry flame]

yeah I wouldn't swap to low life unless you had like 2k+ hp

and all low life pieces

[wise basalt]

Ok so basically I have to dodge everything

I'm glad wasd exists

[wintry flame]

yes or see what you might be missing defensively like crit avoid/reduction, armor, getting block, or something

[finite galleon]

Ay yo that's 5Head, noice.

[wintry flame]

I had to do it for some arenas

[wise basalt]

Yeah I just started corruption, now I will do a bunch of farming

[rich frigate]

Heyo, acolyte mains, can someone help me with something?

This is my current character: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/omdKr8qB
And I just dropped a 1LP Woven Flesh.

After swapping it in LE Tools, it seems to boost my EHP and Health, + the Health Leech from Woven Flesh should increase my damage too because of Lich's Hollow Lich node if I am not mistaken.

Would you guys reckon this is a good enough upgrade for now?

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 61

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (11) / Warlock (43)

General:

▸ Health: 974, Regen: 14.54/s
▸ Mana: 133.81, Regen: 18.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 248%, Regen: 102/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 39 Int / 0 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 45% / 15% / 10% / 49% / 27% / 337% / 26%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 27%, Threshold: 195
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (553)

Used skills:

Chthonic Fissure / Spirit Plague / Chaos Bolts / Rip Blood / Profane Veil

[wintry flame]

yes

[rich frigate]

Ty

[wintry flame]

@finite galleon ^

can see I swap haha to protect my 1hp abom for this fight lmao

and I get regen stuff set up right still can't tank the dots. I also tried with resistances, but maybe if I get like full void resistances for him idk

[finite galleon]

I paused a bunch and finally saw the two rings you were swapping. Btw was your abom's model bugged out in the first video? (cuz it's not visible anymore once you teleported onto the husk)

[wintry flame]

he doesn't follow me he stays there

in the back you can see his green dot on minimap

then abby kill with a diff setup no abom tech so you lose a lot of damage lmao

[finite galleon]

Ooohhhh

you're using it as an aura guy for your rogues, I see, I'm a dumb dumb

[wintry flame]

yeah so I don't have to play in my dread shade like second video it's jsut everywhere except shade is buff zone 😄

[finite galleon]

I was wondering why your rogues are so tanky as they were merely armour shred carriers in my mind at that point

Noice, noice, sick tech

I salute you

[wintry flame]

nah they have a ton of armour and health then leech prevents them from dying ever

[crisp ridge]

man, my resists for 400corr are a bit sus

[finite galleon]

Maybe some day I will shamelessly steal your tech, when the item support for clusterf*ck zoo has finally arrived and I need an aura bot

[rapid cloud]

@wintry flame Do you just have 100% crit rate or does Spectral distance cause all minions outside of the area to gain egoism? :o

[wintry flame]

they have 100% crit when I proc harvest via chaos bolts

[crisp ridge]

imma cri

[wintry flame]

flat crit from gear/idols and then 2 crit nodes for 150% increased Crit and Harvest proc for 250% increased crit for 4 secs @rapid cloud

think they have like 21-24% base crit

so 350% increased is easy 100% crit

[rapid cloud]

Ah cool. I cant decide on what build I wanna play. Been playing a Soul reave Abom and its ok, but now im wanting a change :P

[finite galleon]

Kyuubi do you have a pair of julra's gloves with intelligence slapped on them?

I uhh, I wanted to test something ,but I don't have a spare pair

[wintry flame]

could run skele rogues with minimal snapshotting still good imo

snapshotting more just makes them broken

[finite galleon]

damn zeckar trying hard to sell rogues

[wintry flame]

if they wanted another necro build lmao

I made a Marksman I will play next

[finite galleon]

🤮 Marksman

[wintry flame]

it looks too good and is tanky aff

100k to 200k ehp for hits

[finite galleon]

🤮 Sometimes you need to stop asking could I and start asking should I

[rapid cloud]

Im new, just got to empowered and I was fancying a big change. I was looking at infernal shades spread nodes and took a look and saw various other spreading spells. The 2 big standouts being infernal shade and spirit plague, but outside of looking at them Idunno how good it would be lol. Dunno what else interacts with em, or what uniques do, or if any minions get improved by having dots on things :P

[wintry flame]

Infernal Shade is pretty unsolved on Necro after nerfs

[rapid cloud]

So im currently on the planner going through everything 1 at a time :x

[wintry flame]

But sacrifice has a node that gives Infernal Shade 250% more multi stacking except sets duration to 2, you can refresh twice with Dread shade tho

could do something like summon zombie + parasites, have them cast infernal shade on death, spec dread to spawn VZ on minion death and the get sac procs from either dread shade or VZ

probs VZ

so then you press Zombie + dread then spam dread on new zombies every respawn to refresh infernal, proc sac buff, and spawn another zombie

for clear you take chain on death for infernal

will be mana intensive tho that's likely the issue

[finite galleon]

Me watching helplessly as Zeckar morphs newbie into monstrosity

[rapid cloud]

What do the parasites actually do

I looked em up and they looked liek they just did a weak attack

no other info on them

[pearl jewel]

i didn't realise how important the straight +dmg skills are

[wintry flame]

fodder for your sacrifice to give infernal shade buffs

[rapid cloud]

Ahh alright

[pearl jewel]

i made a sentinel and am playing with warpath, and sub level 10 he's doing more damage than my bloody 8 skeletons were doing

[wintry flame]

skeles pretty weak early 😛

[pearl jewel]

i mean my lvl 50 skeles

[wintry flame]

ohhhh

[pearl jewel]

cause warpath has a passive that you pick first that does huge amounts of void dmg

and skeles have no passive that does extra dmg, only bonus dmg, forcing you to rely on extra dmg from your gear

[finite galleon]

You need to slap some flat damage onto your skellies man

[wintry flame]

yeah flat dmg is important, need it on weapon for minions or from their trees like Bone Golem has +50 flat cold

[finite galleon]

Luckily Pebble's set is readily available

[pearl jewel]

it is? i only have 1 piece

[finite galleon]

Ah shit

Then it sounds like you're screwed

[wintry flame]

I didn't get mine till monos

and I had CoF set rank

[rapid cloud]

Theres these 2, which sound fun together lol

[finite galleon]

Maybe it is time to highlight minion flat damage affixes on your loot filter and try to craft yourself a usable one then... Smoge.

[wintry flame]

yes that's what I mean haha

I have old build where it was infinite lmao

one sec

I have a couple infinite dmg builds actually lmao forgot about ghostflame one at launch

[cobalt merlin]

Can somebody help a newbie with lootfilter overwhelm? Im trying to learn how its working and it causes me pretty much of headache. Basically want to show only items for my class and above certain lvl. What im doing wrong here?

[rare rock]

Omg, my fellow emos
three T5 affixes

elemental damage is kinda useless for me

but poison penetration is huge! and spell is always useful i suppose

[pearl jewel]

yeah i'm gonna set up some better loot filters now on the necro, hopefully i'll be able to build a couple of cool items to help

[wintry flame]

https://youtu.be/8U3EW7jk49o?t=366

you can see I had a similar setup

[pearl jewel]

do i just want to focus on minion damage

or a combo of like melee and bow/spell and bow

i.e which one will net a higher result

[wintry flame]

you want flat and %

flat first cause very little access to that

[rapid cloud]

@wintry flame Lol, love it.

[pearl jewel]

atm i have a rule for + minion dmg on affixes and +cold and fire on idols, i didn't see other dmg types on idols

[finite galleon]

I can't believe Zeckar's got the voice of a surfer dude

[wintry flame]

I try my hardest

[finite galleon]

There're all kinds of shared damage/penetration types on idols (not 100% sure if there's everything, cuz I only pay attention to physical/necrotic/cold, which are all there)

[pearl jewel]

yeah i want the 3 piece pebbles set

[rapid cloud]

Have been playing a Soul Reav abom....thats kinda fun. Lol, seeing the abom just do a massive ass cleave :P

[wintry flame]

you'll want to mostly consolidate your dmg types, cold has the most flat dmg and scaling tbh

[rapid cloud]

Does the aboms tail attack do much?:

[finite galleon]

I still cannot believe you're going to ditch me and abom gang just like that.

[drowsy rock]

Greetings all .... I have an issue where permanent minions are degenerating health after specing into Crimson Gluttony. Anyone else seen this?

[finite galleon]

the two parts of tail slam aren't of the same type, which is kinda awkward

[wintry flame]

it's nice cause you get double scaling for melee/spell tho

[finite galleon]

True, true

[rare rock]

so just to make sure i understand this, if I have a unique it will take one affix from an exalted item at random for itself, keeping the tier?

[rapid cloud]

@finite galleon Im not 100% ditching >:D

[wintry flame]

what is Crimson Gluttony

[rare rock]

Cause i would love to add this T7 dreadshade
to this unique,

[finite galleon]

That's the acolyte passive

that increases health regen

[wintry flame]

do you have an abberants call on?

probs have it on and increased minion hp so current health drain is greater than regen

[drowsy rock]

yes .... Thats it ... ugh

[crisp ridge]

nice bug

[wintry flame]

it's not a bug 😛

[gleaming elbow]

what bug

[finite galleon]

zeckar senpai too observant

[raw coyote]

Hey guys, im new to the game - can some1 help me with the gloves of the "End Game" Setup of this guide?: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide#gear,-idols-blessings-header

[wintry flame]

I did just spend an evening testing hp level, regen, and abberants 😛

[pearl jewel]

hmm, i think i messed up my loot filter, i thought i had it to only give me extra dmg, but it highlighted bonus dmg

[drowsy rock]

Thanks Zeckar ... that explains it. Back to 1hd shield : (

[wintry flame]

what about em?

[crisp ridge]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

was more coz of this

[finite galleon]

I read in the patchnote that apparently you get to fix one affix now. Not sure tho, cuz I haven't slammed anything since the new patch.

[crisp ridge]

gurantee the affix in t2+ julra

[wintry flame]

ahh

[wintry flame]

you get 1 guaranteed slam in T2 and up and yeah it will keep tier

[sage mural]

What would you recommend as a Lich mastery starter leveling guide ? Without respec i mean

[crisp ridge]

stygian if u get an early one, else just some crit harvest prob

[sage mural]

yeah i've cook around Stygian but as a leveling that's a hard time

[crisp ridge]

lich levelling in general feels bad, it is what it is

[sage mural]

yea without a warlock respec that's like really hard

[rapid cloud]

Do any other class pet builds compare to acolyte? Feels like the shades make them pull ahead every time...I wanna run round with some raptors or bees, but it feels hard to justify the new character :P

[rare rock]

sweet thanks you both

[sage mural]

I could recommend you a Minion Forgeguard build

[crisp ridge]

wolves are also really good, crows with snap shotting, or bear

[wintry flame]

crows

even without snap shotting

[ancient pier]

i did it on poison lich wandering spirits death seal hungering souls and spirit plague

[knotty cave]

how is non minion lich performing this season?

[ancient pier]

up until empowered where i got stygian with 0 struggles

and stygian coal is so much better poison untill you get decent crit gear

[sage mural]

i'll try this setup ! Wandering spirit is like the only skill early on to clear things in campaign aha

[rapid cloud]

@crisp ridge Oh who has crows? :o

[crisp ridge]

primalist

[ancient pier]

yeah pretty much, altho spirit plague + hungering if you spec into dot dmg + poison early on does quite a bit too

also nice thing about poison stygian is that your wandering spirits are 100% up, sadly dps ceiling is quite low but still more than enough to kill abberoth in couple mins

[crisp ridge]

was wondering why i wasnt finding the rings for wraithlord build. my filter was looking for 2x t7 affixs ☠️

[crisp ridge]

is null portent worth using for lich?

[ancient pier]

oh yes

afaik bis for stygian

[wanton bluff]

soul feast question: anyone else having a lack of interaction between the "Original Sin" and "Another Strife" nodes? I was thinking applying Marked for Death with the first and then spreading it with the second, but it doesn't seem to work. Spreading MFD does work if it's applied by Profane Veil, though.

[quiet elbow]

hi guys which minion build is good for this season includes leveling

[chilly star]

ngl the zombie spam with shade build is insanely fun and strong god daym

[marble palm]

can you link that build if you have it?

[ember sonnet]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/lxlh0ium i made this build , to play like a zoo build , does anyone have any pointers ? things i could change ,
i mostly play sentinel

[crisp ridge]

abom
wraithlord
shade zombies if u count it

some others are still viable

[tender ridge]

got a pretty sweet torch for my ignitelock today

[acoustic ferry]

Algum Br jogando de Warlock?

[crisp ridge]

yes

[tender ridge]

the new witchfire relic has been pretty fun

[crisp ridge]

frfr

[tender ridge]

made me realize how few instances there are of "increased curse damage" in the game

it's pretty much just the relic and wand implicits. not even a warlock passive node

[crisp ridge]

it still has dot tag atleast

u can also get it on helm, there is also a good hammer set for it

[tender ridge]

yeah I forgot about sinthara's set

or w/e it's called. mace and shield

I thought the helm affix was spell damage for curses, not increased damage

[crisp ridge]

ahh ye, ur right

[smoky pewter]

Is anyone else messing with the Wraithlord helmet?

[quaint notch]

😄

[crisp ridge]

by that u mean? doing a wraithlord build?

[smoky pewter]

Yeah

[quaint notch]

My army

[smoky pewter]

I'm planning on using the wraithlord helm and the staff that gives +10 wraiths to just absolutely spam a bunch of stupid wraiths with enough life regen to counter their HP loss

I was running just "big bungus army" of 21 permanent minions but changed it up

Gonna see if running 20 wraiths + a dad wraith is fun

[quaint notch]

It's nice just sitting back watching the army run around all over lol

[crisp ridge]

seems not worth but lmk how it goes

[smoky pewter]

I found it was running out of steam a bit at level 100 maps so I'm using the opportunity to try something new

Also I am naming the wraithlord Steve

[quaint notch]

I'm maining a fire smite paladin, this character probably won't see lvl 100 for a while

Just wanted to see the updates I heard about for minions

[smoky pewter]

I'm doing a smite paladin as well

using warpath to mass-trigger smites

[quaint notch]

oh ya

Duel wielding the smite sword?

[smoky pewter]

nahh just one

[quaint notch]

what are you using in your oh

[smoky pewter]

using the firestarter sceptre in my main hand and the smite sword in off

[quaint notch]

ooo ok

[smoky pewter]

that + divine bolt and the healing hand that converts its tree into affecting divine bolts

[quaint notch]

Divine bolt is fire? I'll have to look at that

Back to acolyte chat lol

[atomic atlas]

any apogee wraithlord gamers

[light vessel]

For my alt I want to play a form of acolyte.Any recommendations on a 1000+ corruption build? looking for something with good clear and fast bossing. tired of sentinal

[tender ridge]

i never realized apogee is cold and necrotic minions

I've only ever used it for cold zoo or cold companions

[tender ridge]

1000+ is kinda limiting your options

Torment lock is probably still pretty strong. idk if Wraithlord is 1000c still after the bug fixes/nerfs

[atomic atlas]

what'd they change? this dude did 5k corr in mmarch

with wraithlord

[light vessel]

I sort of want a challenge but not to much if that makes sense lol. void knight with all my gear makes me sleepy lol ill look into the torment one

[hard quail]

hi guys, someone have good endgame loot filter for torment warlock ?

[pearl snow]

you hate to hear it

[tender ridge]

if it's on legacy gear that's pretty understandable. getting wraithlord going seasonally it's gonna take a while to get that high

[atomic atlas]

his gear is ok

not crazy

[tender ridge]

the main thing was the interaction with bone prison. I think they rate limited how often it can eat and how many minions it can benefit from eating

[pearl snow]

his gear aint just "ok" for 5k

[atomic atlas]

oh he didnt even bone prison

[tender ridge]

yeah you're not reaching 5k with ok gear

[haughty sedge]

Can I just say how nice it is that leech keeps ticking even when your health is maxed out?

[tender ridge]

you sure can

[haughty sedge]

It's very nice.

[light vessel]

@tender ridge whats your opinion on the Stygian Coal lich build on maxroll? i like the look of it just not sure about scaling with 3lp items etc

[tender ridge]

haven't actually played it. it's been on the list of stuff to try

[light vessel]

might start with that then swap now that we can change masteries lol ... forgot about that

[tender ridge]

Torment lock I know is good, even after they nerfed the necrotic res scaling, it still hits absurdly hard

[pearl snow]

Maxroll is usually pretty good about vetting their guides IF you arn't looking at community builds

[haughty sedge]

I keep ascending axes and getting scythes... But the wrong ones.

[crisp ridge]

i still havent found any 😭

[pearl snow]

I do not remember getting stunned this much a year ago playing nearly the same build jesus

[crisp ridge]

do people generslly summon minions specifically for wraithlord to consume?

[pearl snow]

I think so there are some snapshotting shenanigans

[crisp ridge]

i cba snap shottin

[rapid cloud]

Oh, thank you for showing me Wraithlord. :P

[crisp ridge]

thinkin i can use that new catalyst to auto summon stuff for it to consume 🤔 but i need to test hoe often it spawns

[smoky pewter]

trying out Wraithlord

Seems fun

[rapid cloud]

Ooo

I wanna try using Wraithlord and Abom. I love me a couple of big beefy boys over an army >:P

[smoky pewter]

I named my wraithlord Steve

[rapid cloud]

Is the helmet hard to get? :o

[pearl jewel]

so i redid my build on my necromancer

[crisp ridge]

took me 92 levels 😂

[pearl jewel]

and wow, my minions are smashing things now, i love it

[smoky pewter]

I'm wraithlording in Minion HP gear which actively hurts the build and it still seems fun

it's kinda limited by Steve's cast speed

[quasi fossil]

i have equipped now "Spine of Malatros" and play only fire and the damage is realy good, but i have one question, if i hit targets with the "flame whips" from Chthonic Fissure, do the whips procc the skill "Return Below" and the other skills that proccs with ghosts

[pearl snow]

It should, You can double check the functionality by using it on a target dummy near the arena zone and checking if torment is applied to the dummy

You have to make sure that the whips are applying Torment

[quasi fossil]

normaly infernal shade should be removed after one whip hit, if i understand Return Below right

[pearl snow]

Alternatively spam Infernal Shade you should see it explode

Yeah

I know that the Whips don't inherit any of the Ignite Chance etc. so there is a chance it doesnt work

[tiny tundra]

this any good?

[pearl snow]

Yeah its the baby brother to the exsang chest

if you slam some good affixes it should be basically just as good for a long time

[quasi fossil]

i test it at dummy after echo, if it dont work i realy dont know where i put in the 28 skill points in Chthonic fissure

[pearl snow]

28 damn

Flame Whip should be able to crit so you can grab Acid Skin, alongside any of the other actual fissure dmg amps

[swift steppe]

ready to farm

[pearl snow]

I had an old Flame Whip guide but I havent touched it for 1.2 yet since Im not playing it quite yet

[quasi fossil]

Spine gives
+2 fire
+3 DoT spells
+3 acolyte spells

[old hull]

No return below doesn't work. Only stuff that applies to the fissure and its initial hit basically. Spirit rate is a fissure stat, so that affects whip rate, too.

[quasi fossil]

4 of 5 spells have 28 skillpoints because of this xD

[pearl snow]

yeah its been awhile since Ive used it

[old hull]

It does feel point flooded, so imo just fill out all the damage and spirit rate you can get as well as acid skin

[quasi fossil]

true, acid skin would be nice

[rustic marsh]

Why is my bone golem losing life? I am not wearing abberant call

[quasi fossil]

there are many things why he losing life

[rough peak]

the acolyte cannot smell good

[rustic marsh]

I checked my gear and skill nodes, I don't see any reason his life should be draining constantly

[quasi fossil]

you can curse him, you can burn him with your infernal shade

[rustic marsh]

Not using infernal shade, or curses

[quasi fossil]

he constantly losing life or dies instant?

[rustic marsh]

Steady life drain

[quasi fossil]

you use dread shade?

[rustic marsh]

No

Skeleton, mage, wraith, golem, volatile (no infernal shade)

[quasi fossil]

wich Unique items you wear?

[rustic marsh]

Phantom grip and tolmats

[quasi fossil]

tolmats?

[rustic marsh]

Tolmats incorrect history of eterra

[quasi fossil]

found it now

okay, sorry i dont find anything

[crisp ridge]

best off sending ur build planner

[rustic marsh]

Ok one min

[crisp ridge]

also is it all minions draining? or just 1 type?

[rustic marsh]

Just the golem

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Sage2050/character/FriendZone

[crisp ridge]

nothing is popping out to me

[pearl snow]

try changing off blood golem

maybe

[rustic marsh]

It feels like health regen is being applied backwards

[rustic marsh]

I did, same thing

[pearl snow]

how interesting

[rustic marsh]

Possibly a bug introduced in the patch that went out a few hours ago? But I also redid some skills so idk

[quasi fossil]

hear me out

restart the game

.

[rustic marsh]

I relogged, I haven't tried restarting the whole game

Let's see

[short girder]

hi guys i'm kinda new now playin for three days.. i have a question thougt u might know . does the acolite have any traversal skill?

[pearl snow]

transplant and other skills can be made traversal

[quasi fossil]

yes, one that is without skills a traversal skill and some can be skilled to (look "Chthonic Fissure" top right)

[short girder]

thanks!

[crisp ridge]

transplant is default
fissure can be
skele mage can be
profane orb can be

[rustic marsh]

Restarted the game, still draining

Wtf is going on

[quasi fossil]

i testet it now on dummy, i cast infernal shade 1 time at start and it stays for the whole time, shade dont care to be slapped

[quasi fossil]

nobody knows, magic

[pearl snow]

rip

[quasi fossil]

and no resist shred

4 more skill points...

[pearl snow]

You can grab the node that removes spirits

should be flat dmg boost

Deepest Ravine

[torn hound]

Whip doesn't pop infernal shade is just the spirits

[rustic marsh]

Omfg I'm an idiot. I accidentally put assemble abomination on my bar instead of bone golem 🫠

[short girder]

a general quistion ? what is your favorite skill to use en what mastery did you pick? and why?

[lofty haven]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q95rz3DQ
COuld I get some help on what to replace first, Im going for a Stygian Coal build so I need tons of int and mana
I just unlocked the ability to buy exalted stuff from merchant so Im looking for what to shoot for to see faster clear

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 72

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (63)

General:

▸ Health: 1,051, Regen: 13.99/s
▸ Mana: 212.36, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 174%, Regen: 27/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 82 Int / 4 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 49% / 62% / 0% / 56% / 81% / 6%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 45%, Threshold: 210
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (34)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (703)

Used skills:

Drain Life / Transplant / Reaper Form / Death Seal / Rip Blood

[short girder]

wew nice tool might look in to that lol

[proper fox]

warlock cant even reach 300 corruption...feels awful

[crisp ridge]

no offence, but thats a skill issue

[weak knoll]

What are some good uniques for Chaos bolt warlock
I got mad alchemist ladle and soul lantern

[pearl snow]

those can work for ignite stuff

couple Soulfire Bastion drops are good

Witchfire relic

depends if you DoT or Crit

[pearl snow]

it can 100% reach 300+

[crisp ridge]

i got 400corr with a random pure witchfire build.

normal warlock builds shoudl easily go 500+ or further

[weak knoll]

Don’t know how I feel about dot builds so I might just do crit

You kinda wanna maximize kill time right?

[pearl snow]

Sure, but DoT builds arn't necessarily slow

Obviously its preference

Crit is most likely viable

[crisp ridge]

dots can stack absurdly high and very quick, theyre slower than some crit stuff against low hp mobs, but they ramp up absurdly quick

[quasi fossil]

i dont know what you mean.... i mean i played witchfire before and one shot lizard shrines, they died instant after the splited xD

[crisp ridge]

tbf, if witchfire could stack it woudl be op

[rare quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWkupQ2wufU

[wintry solstice]

i assume this doesnt work in reaper form?

[high smelt]

bes tbuild to start empowered?

with not good gear

[crisp ridge]

can start emps with basically any

[high smelt]

oh

even lich?

[slender haven]

Can I level with minion necro until wraith lord?

[crisp ridge]

lich has 2 builds u can use, one requires a unique.

[crisp ridge]

yes.

can either wraiths or arch mage, both fine. (can use bothtogether)

[pearl snow]

torment lock I think is pretty low entry

[high smelt]

im lich dont have money to reroll

[crisp ridge]

levelling as lich ☠️

[rapid cloud]

So got my wraithlord. Does anyone have a decent build to take a peek at? One im looking at looks like it has outdated nodes and everything :o

[crisp ridge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApwE4vjo

here is what im working towards, ignore the weapons atm coz im testing stuff

[stuck owl]

Necromancer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (22) / Necromancer (86) / Warlock (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,012, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 134.1, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 194%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 25 Str / 11 Dex / 97 Int / 1 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 128% / 130% / 157% / 81% / 108% / 127% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 602
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (185)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,897)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Summon Wraith / Dread Shade / Transplant / Chaos Bolts / Infernal Shade

[high smelt]

i mlvl 60 atm

[rapid cloud]

@crisp ridge Hows the damage look? :o

[crisp ridge]

i havent used yet, still hunting certain stuff before i swap

[wintry solstice]

does this work in reaper form?

[amber rock]

is aura of decay good yet?

[short girder]

i'm killing it with aura of decay lol

but i have it combined with a ledgy so it wont cost life

[wintry solstice]

it works well but i know health regen doesnt work in reaper form so idk i just want to know if that passive is some kinda exception

[rapid cloud]

Is Julras stardial any good with minion damage throw on it lol?

[crisp ridge]

shade got hands

[rapid cloud]

Does it get pumped up to 300%+ after a teleport?

[high smelt]

any early monolith lich guides? i dont wanna spend money to respec to another asteyr

mastery

[crisp ridge]

just play like crit harvest or infernal shade

[gaunt drift]

Fellow Acolytes, brothers and sisters, I call upon ye with two questions

1. If I have the Hellfire node for Infernal Shade, does it make Flight of Fire useless? Seems like I can have as many as I want, until they run their duration.

2. Can two or three of these Hellfire Infernal Shades stack on top of each other to shred twice/thrice the fire resistance per second?

[crisp ridge]

just level it and go hit dummies

[weak knoll]

My harvest lich at launch was so jank

Even with woven flesh and deaths embrace

[crisp ridge]

yea its not great

[weak knoll]

I was invincible with death seal but once I went back to normal form I was pretty much dead

[short girder]

does ward decline if my ward retention hits 100%?

[crisp ridge]

do the math

[pearl snow]

but dad I dont wanna do homework

[short girder]

so no lol

[pearl goblet]

I have 124% ward retention and my ward decays so yes, otherwise you could just wait and get infinite ehp

[short girder]

i got the shroud of obscurity works great

https://arreatsummit.gg/last-epoch/database/items/body-armor/witch-robes/shroud-of-obscurity

[pearl goblet]

I'm using that too

your ward will reach an equilibrium with the decay

[weak knoll]

ARPGs taught me 100% doesn’t mean 100%

[short girder]

also using that to lol

[weak knoll]

100% is much more like 780%

[crisp ridge]

ive died 4 times 😭 my build sucks

[short girder]

it cant be that bad ?

[crisp ridge]

nvm make it 5

[weak knoll]

What are you fighting?

[crisp ridge]

orobyss, but it rolled ice and i suck so bad at killing it

[sharp ivy]

I am playing an aberration summoner build and for some reason my dps drops between locations when I travel from anywhere to the arena it is about 800k a hit after buffs and if I do the summoning there I get 1.1m damage per hit after buffs.

[crisp ridge]

losing dread shade?

[sharp ivy]

Dread shade is the buff I was referring to

[hallow cape]

😭

[pearl jewel]

if i cahnge my skele mages to death knights, does the bonus minion spellpower just get wasted?

[old hull]

Mostly. They cast the various extra spells in the skeletal mage tree though if you spec into them.

[pearl jewel]

hmm

also, i'm annoyed there's no straight +minion dmg for items, it's all melee+bow or bow+spell or melee+spell

[pearl snow]

"We have Boneclamor Barbute at home"

[wintry flame]

we also missing throwing 😦

This is why people use lich's scorn, just easy dmg for everything

[pearl jewel]

lich's scorn?

item?

[wintry flame]

yeah catalyst you get cold pen per int and + flat cold for spells and attacks (melee/throwing) per infernal shade for minions affected by dread shade

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRhCYDYSA

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/ABwBgbEA

or if you just want the flat

[pearl jewel]

wait

so, to use that item well, you spec into infernal shade and it just turns them into dreads?

[wintry flame]

no you put infernal shades out till max shades, then put your dread shade on and now you have the buff for all your minions

if they are in the buff area

[pearl jewel]

so you use both shades hey, hmm, wonder what skill i would drop for that

i'm currently using the permanent dread shade

[wintry flame]

yeah it's still permanent

you don't have to spec infernal, but I mean if you want more shades and to prep it on your minions then yeah it's good

[pearl jewel]

but if you don't go infernal as well, wouldn't you lose +(6 to 15) Cold Damage with Spells and Attacks per Attached Infernal Shade for Minions affected by Dread Shade

[wintry flame]

also doing it in monos will snapshot the dread shade with the number of shades the first time and since it's permanent you don't have to redo it or even use infernal shade after that

[pearl jewel]

guess i gotta find me a lich's scorn

[wintry flame]

drops from blood frost & death timeline boss

really good to imprint harby echoes so they appear and while pushing the timeline and they will drop the boss's loot, if you're cof you'll get the whole set too and be able to get +4 max shades with the gloves

[pearl jewel]

aren't you lmited to 1 shade for dread if you use the perma

[wintry flame]

yeah but you can put out more infernal shades to get more damage from the catalyst

[pearl jewel]

so, you drop a bunch of infernals, snapshot your dread and you're good to go?

[wintry flame]

yesss

I would put out whatever minions, then I wasn't using wraiths so I just threw a bunch out spammed infernals shade til 10 shades, then threw the dread shade on my holder

[pearl jewel]

this sounds like it has a lot of potential

i'd have to probably reshuffle a few skills here and there

[wintry flame]

easy up to 150 flat cold and then cold pen based off your int

yes it's a nice setup

[pearl jewel]

maybe turn my golem back into 1 guy instead of 2 and make him the dread holder, ditch the wraiths cause i honestly keep forgetting them anyway, and maybe use infernal shades more, or skill up some sort of curse

[torn junco]

why do i see people taking [oppressive gaze] and [reaper's mark] at the same time on bone curse tree? why make mark for death last longer if the text in oppressive gaze says that MFD has unlimited duration?

[wintry flame]

like in what build?

[obtuse quest]

At least on the surface that seems like a waste, what's the full context?

[torn junco]

it's in the everything bagel fissure warlock build

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4Lepv0B

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 89

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.7

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (2) / Warlock (80)

General:

▸ Health: 1,964, Regen: 53.48/s
▸ Mana: 253.95, Regen: 23.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 291%, Regen: 75/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 32 Int / 0 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 72% / 34% / 115% / 96% / 138% / 29%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 393
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,121)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Used skills:

Transplant / Chthonic Fissure / Infernal Shade / Spirit Plague / Bone Curse

[pearl jewel]

well that's annoying, i just got the Phantom Grip unique ring, and got all excited cause of the +2 to minion skills, and it's a freaking sentinel item

[wintry flame]

still pretty nice for + levels and crit

[old hull]

The M4D duration used to be required for taking the necrotic conversion, so if someone wasn't careful updating then they might have missed that.

[torn junco]

oh actually maybe he updated it I dont see it there anymore

[wintry flame]

I was gonna say I don't see it 😛

[pearl jewel]

i'm trying to decide on my mage, change to death knight and go back to multiple, or stick to the single uber mage

[torn junco]

i see

[obtuse quest]

You can still use it as acolyte

[pearl jewel]

i know, i was just hoping it was an acolyte ring

[obtuse quest]

Ah

[crisp ridge]

i have made my next stupid build 😈

[pearl jewel]

where is the arena, i forgot

[crisp ridge]

like the place with dummies?

divine era -> heoborea -> champions gate

[hardy sapphire]

I am really enjoying 5 fire mages + fire gole, + 2 permanent fire wraiths + permanent abom

[brazen drift]

is there a way to channel wandering spirit while walking?

[oak minnow]

Not really

Can get them other ways tho

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/search?query=Wandering spirit&in_description=1&exact_match=0

[obtuse quest]

No.

[brazen drift]

thanks, how about life drain with stygian? can i do it while walking?

[crisp ridge]

yes

[brazen drift]

cool ty

[obtuse quest]

Spec node required, but yes.

[marble palm]

my lock got a blessing for 69 crit chance but the 33 crit multi just popped up, which is better for torment lock crit multi or chance?

[pearl snow]

pretty sure that depends on your stats

[brazen drift]

will the damage dealt by minion's poison, like Vomit on Volatile Zombie, scales with my character's poison damage?

[wintry flame]

no

[obtuse quest]

No, it’ll scale with the minion’s damage.

[obtuse quest]

Unless you’re running a different build, torment doesn’t need crit chance?

[marble palm]

thought so

ty

[marble palm]

Does anyone have a pretty strict filter for torment lock?

[crisp ridge]

best off making it urself based on ur needs

[marble palm]

Yeah I usually do but I keep messing up this time, its still not hiding everything besides exalts and uniques with the specific thing I want, also is there a way to target just t7?

[crisp ridge]

u can specify affix tiers in the advanced section

[mint blade]

Guys im quite angry with Aerial Assault bug and im going to try any acolyte class, I played a little bit Warlock torment last year, what do you guys suggest ?

[frank remnant]

U can even select the double T7 of ur choice if you want, filter is well made you just need to learn how that work

[marble palm]

I mean I play a lot of the classes, I love my torment lock from last cycle though, just forget a bunch of stuff. Its fun, only at 300 corruption on it, its still a baby though so we will see how it performs later

[marble palm]

so just this?

[mint blade]

are you following maxroll guide ?

[marble palm]

I am yeah but changed a few things, based on gear. I am doing the poison snapshot though, did not want to bother but it takes 2 seconds

[crisp ridge]

that will show any t7 of those 5 selected.

[gilded frost]

anyone know if Profane Veil counts as "transformed"?

[frank remnant]

@marble palm do you care about good base ? If you want a T7 on a specific item base, you need other rules

[marble palm]

not at all, just need the t7 for right now

[frank remnant]

@marble palm this one work but pretty basic and not "targetting" a good item

then your rule is fine

if you want that

[marble palm]

yeah will edit it tomorrow its late

[crisp ridge]

id remove the lego/unique/exalt condition imo

[marble palm]

will clean it up and make it more specific

ty ty

[crisp ridge]

its redundant

[marble palm]

it is

was just making sure that is the rule for t7

gonna just redo the filter since I know now

[crisp ridge]

the rule youve created is how i do mine. i then do it per item slot(ring, ammy, etc.)(combined into single conditions where possible) and then as u get better, u tighten it more, adding correct base or specifying atleast 2 of the 5, etc.

[marble palm]

Yeah I have so much loot just need to target farm certain things now, I honestly do not even need any more legos but play a few toons so its nice to have them all with LP loot ready

[frank remnant]

my early monolith filter always look like this, I always show all desired affixes than cook to hide non desired item

[crisp ridge]

i currently have 3 builds in 1 loot filter lmao, all coloured coded

[frank remnant]

then ajust when I only want T7 only

[marble palm]

haha yeah looks good

just gotta sit down and do it and not be lazy

lock feels good, I know people said the class is down bad but I am nuking bosses already and I have not slammed anything for it yet

[crisp ridge]

its fine, kills normal abberoth with ease

[marble palm]

yeah doubt I am gonna try for uber with it anyway

[obtuse quest]

No. Transforms have a tag for them. See: Reaper Form.

[pearl snow]

I did this but without the color coding lmao. Finally got fed up today and split them up

[crisp ridge]

im proud of my stuff

[obtuse quest]

Ya'll have more than 1 build in a filter?

[crisp ridge]

i do atm cozim playing lich and trying to upgrade ti whilst farming for another

[lofty pine]

hey guys, im building harvest focus lich. is shredding armor good for necrotic damage/hit ?

[crisp ridge]

i have 3 in one 🤡 + merophage

armour shred is always good

[obtuse quest]

Yes, armour works on all hits, just slightly less effective against non-physical.

[crisp ridge]

didnt get the 2nd affix i wanted 😭

[obtuse quest]

F

[muted garden]

I'm soon lvl 70 levelling as Chtonic Fissure + Infernal Shade + Combustion.
I'm not sure what build to choose. I don't like snapshotting, I don't want to deal with builds that require constant momentum killing/movement.

I like to stop and look at loot/mods. I was thinking of continuing with this skill setup into this https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide
but someone told me it has zero defence in higher corr 🤷‍♂️

[crisp ridge]

warlock is probably the best for you then, unless u wanna just minion with no snapshot

[upper grail]

Hey guys, I just leveled a lich to 36 when I can equip Stygian Coal but found out mine has rank 6 and I can't equip it yet :/ Does anyone have a random Stygian Coal to trade with me for gold? Let me know please.

[obtuse quest]

Huh? If you have a rank on a thing doesn't that mean you met that rank requirement somehow before?

[midnight pulsar]

Anyone got decent loot filters for maxroll torment warlock? Their loot list is once again chocked full of crap

[upper grail]

IDK I got it on my pala

[upper grail]

IDK I got it on my pala but deleted that char since

[obtuse quest]

And you didn't have the faction ranks now? Did your alt not join a faction?

[crisp ridge]

is full of crap because u need to refine it

[upper grail]

do I need to progress through the campaing to get the quest? I mean when I press Y I see COF on rank 8

[obtuse quest]

The first town your alt should be able to join a faction. If not, try and see if you cnan teleport to their zones to join.

[upper grail]

eh 😦

[upper grail]

do you maybe have one? I'll pay

[crisp ridge]

sounds like you want to be MG 🤔 not COF

[obtuse quest]

1. P2P trade doesn't exist.
2. MG required as well.

[upper grail]

nooo I dont 🙂 you can stil ltrade in COF with friends, no?

[obtuse quest]

Did you.. delete your paladin before you made your new alt.

[upper grail]

yea

[obtuse quest]

No, that's gifting, and it only works if the item dropped while in the same party and instance.

[obtuse quest]

That would be why.

[upper grail]

ahh, shit

thanks a lot for you help

I'll just progress throught the campaing then

[crisp ridge]

akshually

obsidian res can be used to bypass that

[obtuse quest]

Don't resonance me, that needs playtime.

[crisp ridge]

not that its relevent for this case tho

[strong urchin]

My abomination decay when I change gear and change map. Any reason why?

[obtuse quest]

Did you modify your skeleton max count?

[strong urchin]

Yes my armor has +1 max skele

[obtuse quest]

Read the no-decay node in abom's skill tree again, but slowly. Check the alt text too.

[strong urchin]

I see, thanks

[marble timber]

hey guys, i have a stygian coal lich question... on the unique itself it has a lot of stats relating to channeling. if i take dark shackles (turning drain life into a castable skill instead of a channel) do these effects still apply?

[frank remnant]

there are any benefit as warlock to go poison over bleed ?

[obtuse quest]

No.

[obtuse quest]

Not really?

[slate pond]

how do you guys compare items to assess what has better dps?

I have those 2 for my wraithlord ...

ohh I see, when I just changed weapon not much changed in terms of crits on target dummies, but when I resummoned I see that axe does more dmg

[frosty herald]

well minion they gear snap when they are summoned

[midnight pulsar]

Hence why I'm asking for anyone that has a decent one. What's the point in getting a loot filter from a guide and your response is "omg just do it yourself"

[sleek folio]

Anyone can recommend an item filter for Warlock Chthonic Fissure, starting fresh from level 1 ?

[lyric idol]

what builds are you guys rocking atm? Haven't played acolyte in a hot minute

[obtuse quest]

Warlock witchfire

I'm probably cooking too much

[chrome mason]

I need to cook more Lich

i need to see if im missing anything

need red rings first tho 💀

[obtuse quest]

I'm still tilted that I don't have a single cycle drop yet

I GODAMN NEED ONE

[autumn elbow]

Lich people, is slamming health% on a 1lp belt better than %cdr?
Worried about reaper and death seal uptime

[tropic bobcat]

Are you playing stygian?

[autumn elbow]

No, gathering gear for harvest

[obtuse quest]

Probably hybrid health.

[tropic bobcat]

Yeah I think you want health, CDR you can get away by speccing more duration for death seal if you really need

[autumn elbow]

The cd starts when it ends tho

[tropic bobcat]

Yes but usually you use that downtime when travelling between packs

[obtuse quest]

You're lich, you have the mobility to not take hits.

[tropic bobcat]

so as long as it lasts enough time to clear the current pack, you are good

[whole igloo]

if i wear julra gloves with cast speed and I invoke Wraithlord and then change my gloves, does he keeps +20 cast speed ?

[obtuse quest]

In theory, yes.

[whole igloo]

hm ok hard to catch the diff ..

[autumn elbow]

K then ty, will try to havoc a hybrid health t7 belt

[whole igloo]

and another question, for wraith lord is it better usurper's mandate or scales of lemniscate ?

[obtuse quest]

Scales is bad, read it carefully.

Usurper's is okay.

[whole igloo]

domo arigato !

[winged chasm]

is this chance based or on a cooldown? doesnt seem to proc very often even when spamming, I actually dont notice any difference between casting slowly or holding down say chaos bolts

[obtuse quest]

The overload flame whip effect? I think it has a 1 second internal cooldown per target.

[winged chasm]

interesting

onwards to target dummies!

the harvest and rip blood procs from chaos bolts dont seem to have any cooldowns

was trying to implement as much automagic as possible to break my gpu

[obtuse quest]

Some things are just weird overall

[winged chasm]

nvm rip blood does have 4 per second cap

[obtuse quest]

IE: bone curse’s cursed limbs has a 1 second ICD

[winged chasm]

harvest doesnt, at least I cant find such info anywhere

so that makes me think how to get 100 dex.... oh wait thats possible easilly this patch

nvm harvest has 3 cap as well I just cant read

[obtuse quest]

[winged chasm]

it would be absolutely ridiculous without these limitations though 😄 my gpu is already at a breaking point with this stuff

I will play aura of decay lich next, no visual pollution..... no damage either but thats okay

[short girder]

what is the gap between the map level and your own level guys ? just wondering.

[rare quail]

fissure is like my favorite looking skill lol

[distant bane]

Before red rings on stygian lich which rings use ?

[obtuse quest]

10+, as usual lmao

[obtuse quest]

Phantom grip if you need flat crit, otherwise the usual affixes work

[dim niche]

I really want to play a build that's more hands off (relaxing to play) and not so reliant on aiming so I am looking into minions or open to suggestions. Maxroll pros and cons of minion builds make them seem not so good...Im a noob so probably won't make it real far into endgame. Any suggestions?

[obtuse quest]

Either a single big minion build or stygian coal lich, the latter has a required unique

[marble palm]

abomination?

[lyric idol]

how relaxing is stygian coal lich? I thought it was pretty action packed

[obtuse quest]

The former one? Abom, Wraithlord, archmage skeletal mage...

[obtuse quest]

Mostly for dodging, your main DPS is kinda cast and forget.

[ruby oracle]

Hey does reaper form drain ramp up?

[humble marlin]

Stygian coal is very button intensive. I found that infernal shade was much smoother and performed better.

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[little yarrow]

is stygian coil autotargeting after you put down the circle?

[west pond]

it makes it so fun to play ngl and it's so satisfying with the sfx

[worldly breach]

i'm just trying to whip stuff

got 200% ignite chance on my swörd so that's nice, now i just need to find resists somewhere

[timid tiger]

Anyone blasting high Corruption with torment lock?

[sterile iris]

I hope that's enough of an answer for you. I'm currently max-rolling the Torment Warlock and am just starting with Corruption. The first Harbingers are already in the dirt. Everything's still pretty relaxed.

[flint pivot]

im at 200 corr... blasting my way ...

[quartz jacinth]

Hi all, question. Looking to play more frozen minion cc with my friends. Do you think its better to have maximum mages shooting out to apply freeze or the arch mage? Learning.

have 7 mages atm.

[obtuse quest]

If you want to up your (Last I checked VERY low after empowered) chances, multiple mages.

[quartz jacinth]

Thanks, yeah m im freezing lots atm. was not sure if chance to freeze was based of lots of projectiles or bigger hits. Didnt want to respec when you legends here could answer the questiom 😛

[obtuse quest]

Because freeze rate can't be added on, technically more hits have somewhat better chances.

[sacred fossil]

yo lads, u think uber is doable on Stygian Coal guy? I wanna push to it

[keen imp]

you already have 2x red rings and the neck?

[obtuse quest]

Player skill dependant, after getting your red rings.

[sacred fossil]

so technically doable? thanks

[obtuse quest]

You do have two dashes and evade.

Probably doable.

[sacred fossil]

or should I lean to necromancer? like abomination or something

[sinful monolith]

So servers are down so there's the chance to ask questions about necromancer. All the "% increase in cold damage" for example won't do anything if my minions deal necrotic or fire damage right ?

[keen imp]

played only necro minion builds in this game, only now tried stygian coal lich, imo fire wraith>wraithlord>abom>roid skelly>minion aarmy

i dont like that you kinda need to cheese if you play the abomination build

[obtuse quest]

If you add cold minion damage then yes, otherwise no.

[compact sorrel]

how is torment warlock?

[obtuse quest]

Decent still.

[compact sorrel]

im playing wraithlord but its rather meh

[sinful monolith]

If I add cold minion flat damage through my gear, would the % increase only work on the + flat cold increase ?

[flint pivot]

Nice.. but you must have good unique gears , good damage, crit multi

[obtuse quest]

Yes, just like player stats.

[obtuse quest]

Eh? it's the easier necro build to get going.

[sinful monolith]

Ok thanks I see.

[compact sorrel]

its ok but nothing crazy for me

[obtuse quest]

Did you play VK or falconer or something previously?

[compact sorrel]

2 years ago vk autobomber, also few other builds before changes

maybe i just need better items on my necro:)

you guys prefer transplant or skeletal mages for teleporting?

[sinful monolith]

I'm currently using a mashup of fire archers / pyre golem / pyromancers / wraiths. Until I get those special rings (to make things resummon), should I just stay like that or is there something better to do with my skellies ? I've seen rogues, vanguards, cryo or other stuff in the possibilities but I have no idea how they do

[keen imp]

transplant cause of excecute node

[obtuse quest]

Do you have dread shade?

[sinful monolith]

I don't, I thought I'd need more things to resummon like those rings before draining minions

My plan only starts with two of those rings to try all the nodes that work with minions dying / resummoning, until then idk

[obtuse quest]

If your minions have enough leech they can stay alive past the drain indefinately.

[sinful monolith]

Oh then it should work, they have leech I think. Maybe not really the two golems

[obtuse quest]

It gives minions such a big boost that not using the skill is kinda cutting your possible DPS in half at least.

[sinful monolith]

I've allocated points into summoner as I went with no plan, I'll go back and respec a bit for more leech and grab the dread shade then

and grab the nodes with leech in all my minions tree

then it should be alright

[keen imp]

the minion army is a good leveling build, but you need to include dread shade, me personally i got tired of big group of minions and constantly having to monitour if any of them is missing i transitioned to skeletal mage or roid build where you have 1 single skeletal mage that clears mobs where you dont even see them. you just need to maintain dread shade+ infernal shade buffs on him

[sinful monolith]

Yeah the current minion army will be temporary, but I'll try the whole everything resummoning and dying all the time once I get two rings 👀

[keen imp]

this build can go prety far, especially if you will be lucky to get aarons will armor

[obtuse quest]

aarons will

[sinful monolith]

tbh I'm going in blind, first time with CoF so I have no idea when I'll get my build 🤣

[keen imp]

Aaron's Will

[obtuse quest]

Imagine using golemancer.

(It kindaaa sucks)

[high smelt]

gotta target farm with COF there are great methods

[keen imp]

Seing this makes me sad. and i need 2

[sinful monolith]

aaron's will sounds fun but that means no archers/rogue/warriors

[hardy sapphire]

lucky for me, my minion build doesnt use any of those 😄

[limpid mural]

Does that work for wraiths as well?

[obtuse quest]

Yes. Any minion death counts.

Watch your mana pool lmao.

Last I known that build has a mana problem/

[sinful monolith]

which item is this

[lilac bear]

Is there any known way to get Skeletons to auto-summon? I'm already aware of The Sintra shield, and the perk to make them respawn after death (combined to give a 85-86% chance). I'm wondering if there's anything else to make them spawn.

[obtuse quest]

That's about it.

[sinful monolith]

cycle of putrescence for volatile zombies

[lyric idol]

pact severance axe

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcCYFZyA

[lilac bear]

The skeletons are good because you can get them to give you mana when they die. This can be used to fuel other chain sacrifices.

[sinful monolith]

this + mages can sacrifice your other minions to chain things

[obtuse quest]

Oh yeah they did drop skeleton's mana cost but not change the mana gain node

[lilac bear]

Yeah, I was playing around with mages sacrificing wraiths (which were cast by the wraithlord)

Aberant's Call + Arbor helm gets you so many wraiths that you never cap out and thus never have your wraith lord eating your mages (which are just resumoned on traversal anyway)

[old hull]

You can summon 3 skeles per cast and of course grab the resummon chance stuff, but unfortunately that's all for skeletons

[lilac bear]

Unfortunately there's just no way to make Sacrifice really strong enough.

[sinful monolith]

Death Rattle too ?

[obtuse quest]

Normally people complain about Sacrifice doing enough damage but not having the ridiculous amount of mana to sustain the damage, not it lacking damage.

[lilac bear]

I'm comparing it to simpler things like Wraithlord

[autumn elbow]

I wish sacrifice had a node converting mana cost into health cost

[sinful monolith]

There's a node for 40% less mana used

[lilac bear]

I wish the Marrow spikes cast by zombies on death used your skill tree for marrow shards

[charred oriole]

Anyone here playing Harvest Lich?

[sinful monolith]

and sacrifice can be cast through volatile zombies with 50% reduced cost too ? wouldn't that work

[old hull]

With the autosac relic, you can focus all your time just casting skeles

[old hull]

They do

[obtuse quest]

They do.

[lilac bear]

Not what I've seen. I don't see the orbs returning to me.

Unless the orbs are "returning" to the now dead zombie.

[obtuse quest]

That wouldn't surprise me since marrow shards are a VERY old skill.

[lilac bear]

WAs trying to use it for the mana node in marrow

[obtuse quest]

Most likely orbs only work on direct casts, if rip blood is any indication, is my bet.

[lilac bear]

Just something fun I discovered (every probably knew this already) but this off hand can be used for your Wraithlord

The respawn of the mob is not as frequent as, say, the volatile zombie, so it doesn't interrupt their movement and offensive cast so much

[chilly star]

servers back up ?

[lilac bear]

The Crab ring can also be used to spawn a minion for the wraith to eat on evade.

[glad lily]

Hey all :), i am new to the game maybe someone can help me! My abomination die after some time because of the Burn dmg from infernal shade i think is there a goal where he doesnt die when i am chilling and not fighting?

[obtuse quest]

#news message

[lilac bear]

If you port to a town the debuff disappears.

[glad lily]

When i am fighting ( he) he leech and cant die but when i am standing still he die after some time is there a trick or stat goal for him?

[obtuse quest]

Make sure you have zero personal damage, and abom has a node that stop his own decay. Also minion health regen.

[glad lily]

because evertime snapshotting is rude haha

[lilac bear]

The debuff doesn't drop off if you are between echoes in the monolith, but if you got back to the end of time town, the ubuff falls off

[glad lily]

ok thx! and the stats what i snapshotting dont disapear?

[lilac bear]

So you can go AFK. MY abom's health is high enough that it's fine for 5 minutes easily when I'm doing stuff between echoes.

[lilac bear]

THey shouldn't.

[glad lily]

i started today and i am only lvl 64 he can live maybe 1-2 min haha when i am afk

[lilac bear]

But I don't really snapshot anymore, so I can't be 100%

[autumn elbow]

Planning on making one this weekend, only 1 good exalt and 2 slams away from being ready

[glad lily]

i dont like snapshotting to be honest but i am scared my dmg is too low ^^

[autumn elbow]

Apparently its going to suck arse no matter what so i'm not expecting much from the build

[glad lily]

thx a lot for the help 🙂

[lilac bear]

Does AoDStillSuckOffensively?

[obtuse quest]

Considering nothing changed, yes.

Honestly only a rework can save this thing's poor arse

[lilac bear]

Season 3 will be the season of AoD for sure!

[old hull]

I'm ready for cold AoD in S3

[obtuse quest]

I wish, at least cold AoD would be interesting-

[compact sorrel]

Its the same for wraithlord? Inferbal shade kills him very fast

[old hull]

Tinfoil hat, I'm convinced lich is getting cold theming

I feel like the cold AoD slip is legit

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[obtuse quest]

!remindme 3 months

[cedar hill]

Anyone knows if Cycle of Putrescence works if you summon only one Zombie? (The single large zombie node not taken.) *works, as in, 100% to re-summon after it exploded?

[obtuse quest]

I'll throw the red rubber ball at you

[obtuse quest]

Yes, it works if you have no zombies. IT effectively tries to do: Keep X zombies alive, X being the number of Cycles you equipped.

[compact sorrel]

Could you please tell me what is the name of this node that decays?

[cedar hill]

Thank you!

[obtuse quest]

Oh you meant the decay.

[compact sorrel]

i have that but wraithlord still dying while on infernal shade

[lilac bear]

Do you have the passive point that gives leech on crit for your minions?

[cedar hill]

So, for the perm Abom/Wraithlord build, I cannot have +damage equipment on me and only have +minion damage?

[obtuse quest]

Deal less spell damage, I guess.

[compact sorrel]

hmm i cant check now;/ dont remember

[obtuse quest]

Yes. + damage wouldn't help your minions anyway.

[cedar hill]

So both Shades are there only for the buffs it gives to the Abom/Wraithlord and not for their AoE damage (At least for Infernal Shade)?

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[cedar hill]

Thank you.

[compact sorrel]

gonna drop shade for bone curse then

[cedar hill]

Oh, and the Abom decay that start after I got 6 or more skeleton minions. Do that mean I can still cast up to 5 Skeleton Mages without it decaying?

[lilac bear]

Yes

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[atomic atlas]

dont. wl leeches

[obtuse quest]

Prepare to watch your dps dip like a cliff-

[compact sorrel]

hmmm i will try to check more in the evening

he dies in 5 sec anyway

with shade:D

[lilac bear]

Seems like a dead Wraithlods does less DPS than one without shade

[obtuse quest]

There's a node that turns the health drain in dread shade into increased damage taken.

[strong flame]

Anyone figure out a good way to get the new golem unique to workout in a build? I've been testing some different things, but can't get the DPS that I would like to see.

[cedar hill]

And for the Abom eating the skeletons, what nodes in the Warrior/Mages tree contributes to the strenght of the Abom besides having more skele types and skele total?

[compact sorrel]

of course im talking about infernal shade 😄

[obtuse quest]

What golem unique?

[obtuse quest]

Max health.

[strong flame]

Aaron's Will I believe is the name

[lilac bear]

That's not a new one.

[obtuse quest]

That's OLD.

And it's bad.

[vast crescent]

Kzb help me out

[obtuse quest]

Oh, fair.

[cedar hill]

Only health nodes in Skeleton Warrior/Mage tree helps Abom?

[obtuse quest]

Shoot.

[obtuse quest]

And their actual total health, yeah.

[cedar hill]

Thank you.

[strong flame]

Huh I could've sworn it was a new one...Either way tried a cold damage build with this and mages. Overall DPS just doesn't seem like it's there.

[vast crescent]

gimme a build suggestion thats fast and can scale

bored out of my mind with HoA

never again

[obtuse quest]

HAHAHAHA

[compact sorrel]

what is hoa?

[obtuse quest]

Errrr Coal? Have you messed with coal?

[vast crescent]

hail of arrows

i did 😦

[obtuse quest]

Hail of arrows, marksman.

[vast crescent]

i havent messed around with warlock tho

at all

second time i play HoA

imb4 s3 HoA again

its so fking boring

my god

[strong flame]

I wanna do something that isn't Coal or Wraithlord lol

[obtuse quest]

Do you want a meta setup, or are you looking to cook?

[vast crescent]

meta but fun if that makes sense

i can cook later

gotta set myself up first

[cedar hill]

Sorry for asking so many questions, but one more, Infernal Shade's damage is determined by the caster's equipment, not the minion it is attached to, right? Asking so I can know which nodes to give up.

[vast crescent]

yea

[obtuse quest]

Torment or Witchfire warlock.

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[vast crescent]

which is cooler

in your opinion

[cedar hill]

Thank you.

[strong flame]

witchfire warlock always sounded fun

[obtuse quest]

Witchfire is the hot new thing that sets the whole screen on fire.

[lyric idol]

sold

[strong flame]

Do you have a build link for this?

[vast crescent]

all right ill give it a go

thankz

[obtuse quest]

Give me a bit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag0qlicMWMs

I slightly doubt it's a good league starter, but it IS good once you hit the critical point.

[strong flame]

I have a level 85 acolyte currently

Just bored with attempting to force minion builds to do empowered monaliths

[obtuse quest]

You'll need the relic unique or it's only going to be avg

[strong flame]

I have the relic unique in my stash

and the weapon

plus the low life ward items

[cedar hill]

Playing Inkspot's I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire in the background as you're playing this build?

[strong flame]

I was doing the 1-button loop volatile minion build this morning. I don't really like it very much

[obtuse quest]

You could-

[obtuse quest]

That one's basically "Basic, boring, decently good"

[strong flame]

That's kinda the gist I got as well with playing it

[obtuse quest]

At least it's not bad

[strong flame]

This one looks fun at least, and if I can break my buddy's GPU while doing it then I'm sold

[obtuse quest]

Play with caution-

[strong flame]

He played flask throwing rogue season 1

I don't feel bad

He also played spark when poe2 first came out

[obtuse quest]

Sounds like revenge LMAO

[surreal wasp]

Torment warlock very weak

Is fact

Same depent gear on void knight pushed +500 corrupt

Or higher

[obtuse quest]

What warlock is not weak then?

[cedar hill]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcCYDZSA
Does this item makes it so I can only cast either Dread Shade or Infernal Shade? Or it only limits the amount of each Shade I can cast simultaneously?

[azure briar]

Anyone think of any interesting uses for this ?

[obtuse quest]

Only one, either.

[surreal wasp]

On start obt warlock strongest build 🤣

[cedar hill]

Thanks.

[gaunt hound]

I started with bleeding fissure, once you've got first ring and gloves from lich - it's just grind through the game

[charred oriole]

Try Harvest Lich, requires decent gear tho

[pearl snow]

Ive been trying to cook dot stacking Volatile Zombies but no luck. That could be a use lol

[gaunt abyss]

Hmm, thanks i playing the torment warlock from max roll and its feel clancky, something wired in it for me. Will give this one a go

[flint maple]

is only minion viable?

[pearl snow]

Witchfire is good starter if you run CB damned/ignite until you scoop up that relic

[obtuse quest]

You need to be a bit more specific. What does "only minion" mean? Only minion builds? Only one minion?

[pearl snow]

Can even start bleeding and respec

[obtuse quest]

Okay CB DoT is a good point

[flint maple]

minion buld only

[gaunt abyss]

CB=?

[pearl snow]

Im doing CB witchfire now and its blasting

Chaps Bolts

Chaos Bolts

[lyric idol]

chaps

[obtuse quest]

Minion only? No buffs or debuffs?

[pearl snow]

I promise I dont use Immolators anymore Kzb

[small sinew]

Stygian Coal Lich has been really fun so far
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/stygian-coal-lich-guide

[flint maple]

yeah

[obtuse quest]

HAHAHAHAHA self burn addiction fr

[gaunt abyss]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide#passives-header
this is what i play atm, but something feels wrong in it

[obtuse quest]

Dread shade is too good of a buff to not run, without it your dps is at least halved.

[pearl snow]

Torment is great you may be missing Crit multi

[lyric idol]

I was thinking about trying that but now I'm getting the witchfire itch

[pearl snow]

Bolts is doing well so far with my witchfire but I think a laid back version would be Fissure and Wandering Spirits

[gaunt abyss]

i have 280%+ i think

[small sinew]

Witchfire is fun too! I just wanted to try out something new, and lich is really cool lol

[lyric idol]

yeah lich is badass

[flint maple]

thanks.. gotta do some respecing i guess

[lyric idol]

I found Heavy's axe and really wanted to make something with harvest

[pearl snow]

Id have to see your toon to help further. But cast speed can help with clunky-ness

[fickle bobcat]

do u guys think stygian coal can kill uber abberoth?

[pearl snow]

I think it has already

I saw someone mention it

[fickle bobcat]

do we have a planner?:D

[pearl snow]

Might need to cntrl f in here

For the vid

[tropic bobcat]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/stygian-coal-lich-guide

[fickle bobcat]

a real "this guy just killed uber aberroth" planer :/?

[tropic bobcat]

He's live rn if you wanna check the build

[fickle bobcat]

im playing the build tho

and im kinda stacked but right now i dont know if its possible to kill him, maybe just a skill issue idk

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Lyxpoch/character/LichMyDuck

[pearl snow]

Most people wont hit uber Abby

[obtuse quest]

Uberroth does take player skill.

[fickle bobcat]

my friend plays judgement pala, he does not need player skill haha 😄

[tropic bobcat]

https://www.twitch.tv/lizard_irl

He is in offline fighting

[fickle bobcat]

oh damn ty!

[pearl snow]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2438846556
around 34mins he went over who killed it

I think it was stygian

I didnt watch tho im reguritating info from yesterday

[flint maple]

whats the best build for acolyte atm?

[pearl snow]

WHATEVER IS FUN IM THE FUN GUY

Torment Lock or Dreadlord

Im oretty sure

[obtuse quest]

Torment, DreadLord, Abomination..

[gaunt abyss]

dont remember my account name sadly 😅

[pearl snow]

[gaunt abyss]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDYGVP8B found it XD

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 84

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (15) / Warlock (62)

General:

▸ Health: 1,075, Regen: 73.56/s
▸ Mana: 233.43, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 268%, Regen: 251/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 13 Dex / 67 Int / 8 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 112% / 109% / 83% / 96% / 390% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 215
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,171)

Used skills:

Bone Curse / Chaos Bolts / Chthonic Fissure / Rip Blood / Profane Veil

[pearl snow]

I shall look

[gaunt abyss]

i know there is still lot of work on gear, but hard for me to pinpoint

[pearl snow]

Wait this is torment?

That looks more like CB DoTs

[gaunt abyss]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide#passives-header

this is the guid i follow

[west thunder]

Gonna try this class while off-line, what's the most fun mastery and build this class has to offer?

[gaunt hound]

It's torment with Necro res overcap

[unkempt oasis]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Ixtar/character/Duloden any idea to make the bulid better?

[gaunt hound]

but why this nodes missed

wtf)

45% more damage=\

[oblique oriole]

hey guys i just came back after playing last year did they ever fix the fact that wandering spirits when channeled how the spirits disapeered as soon as u were done channeling?

[pearl snow]

Id grab the Torment Nodes at the top. If you want to make it less clunky or its weird pressing all these buttons

Pickup bonecurse on CB cast

[gaunt hound]

I'll suggest Mad Alchemist laddle for this build for overloads

wow He even missed overloads

[charred echo]

you don't take overloads in torment

[gaunt abyss]

can also possible the guid is wrong, its maxroll after all....

[pearl snow]

Hes not damning

So no overload

[gaunt hound]

Yup

[gaunt hound]

I mean this

[pearl snow]

Old Torment used to be Wandering spirits

So I was confusion

[gaunt abyss]

its use bone curse for extra curses for more dmg.

[gaunt hound]

there are u

[pearl snow]

Yeah that makes sense

[gaunt hound]

worse than overloads

[obtuse quest]

warlock

[pearl snow]

Id try to find another torment build and see whats diff honestly

Maybe someone’s on ladder

[obtuse quest]

Fixed a while ago, unless the bug came back

[pearl snow]

But if you want pure torment I’m not sure I like CB with it

Even if I am an enjoyer

[oblique oriole]

awesome thanks!

[gaunt abyss]

maybe, in maxroll there is only 1 and in last epoch toll there arent turment

[pearl snow]

Yeah only my guide exists on LET currwntly but its CB DOts

For 1.2

Ill take another look in a couple minutes im on my phone and these sites suck

[old hull]

Just to be clear, the spirits not disappearing when you stop channeling was the bug, they should properly disappear currently

[pearl snow]

Walking the dog

[eternal cave]

Does LE Tools show damage possibilities ?

[pearl snow]

For very very very few skills

[eternal cave]

Ah

[charred echo]

Bleed still exists, cursedboy made a witchfire guide, dread's mark of the rat poison still works, Skurge's ghostflame is way less dps but a fair bit tankier now

[pearl snow]

In build planner under calculations

[eternal cave]

Yea it didn't show for any of my abilities

[pearl snow]

Yep then no go

[pearl snow]

10mins I might be able to spot something. Hows the dps of just your Cthonic on a dummy near arenav

Oh and Bone Curse

[gaunt abyss]

what dummy?

i feel like a dummy sometimes 😂

[pearl snow]

Near the Arena area if you right clikc the key it will show you where to teleport

There are training dummys that take dmg

[gaunt abyss]

will test when server go up again then

[pearl snow]

Sounds good, I’ll hop on pc and check your build in a few

[gaunt hound]

I used this with Mad Alchemist Ladle, curse stacking, was fine

[oblique oriole]

looking to play wandering spirits build any suggestions on if i should go lich or warlock?

[gaunt hound]

And this for fissure, but idk how it works now. Was fine on 700 corruption

[manic cargo]

what build are you using with that tree?

[gaunt hound]

I used this last season, cooked with my friend

[gaunt abyss]

nothing in those 2?

[pearl snow]

Its no longer torment

Its DoT

Non curse

Which to be fair might just be better

[manic cargo]

does % damage and %necrotic damage work on dot

[obtuse quest]

Yes, if the dot does necrotic damage

[pearl snow]

Taking a look now, just to make sure you want to keep the identity of te build

[gaunt abyss]

curse in general is good as its 4% multi dmg no?

[pearl snow]

its scaling something different so he has no need for it

other nodes are purely better

[gaunt abyss]

idk to swap, after all its a maxroll guid. cant be sure its very good XD

[pearl snow]

Maxroll is usually very solid

however LE is pretty new

But im a former POE player so

I stopped using guides at some point

LOL

[obtuse quest]

MAxroll is a hit or miss kinda

[manic cargo]

the torment build on maxroll is very good

[gaunt abyss]

for this season?
maybe im playing it wrong then, also a possebility

[manic cargo]

yea you might be playing the old one

[gaunt abyss]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide#passives-header this one yes?

[pearl snow]

just remember friends. Anyone better than you is cheating

[manic cargo]

yea that one

[pearl snow]

Okay I see the vision now

what a difference LET on a computer makes dear god

@gaunt abyss Okay so what do you do when you enter monos. What is your casting etc

Also this single point in Inferal Lash is kinda hilarious

I get why

[gaunt abyss]

fissure and bone curse and then some rip blood, if there is tanky enemy i use profane veil for the bonus dmg

[pearl snow]

its just funny

[manic cargo]

i think its to get to crippling insight