💀┃acolyte

[red harness]

wraithlord dmg is nuts

[crisp ridge]

ask and you shall receive

[frank remnant]

Does Soul Feast will gain full benefit or Ward generation even without shotgunning? Like vs boss I will gain only get 1 hit per cast but 13 "ward generation instance" per cast?

[obtuse quest]

No

[austere breach]

it's difficult to deal decent dmg over time with hungering souls, I'm sure hit dmg can be decent but the possess thing is quite meh

[frank remnant]

sad, hard to invest on this skill then

[austere breach]

not enough dmg % on it

[frank remnant]

for bossing

[obtuse quest]

Oh no it's dogshite at bossing.

It's a clear skill through and through

[frank remnant]

but can probably used for mana regen purpose since mana gained scale with ur ward gained on the tree

[vivid fractal]

So there's definitely some bug with the abe where it can't approach one of those lizard type enemies and gets stuck in place swinging at air, right

[obtuse quest]

The big champion ones? Their hit boxes are wonky

[vivid fractal]

Yeah the big champion lizardy things

The abomination doesn't know what to do and just stops in place like a mile away and starts swinging at air

[obtuse quest]

Yeah it's kinda off for any no-aoe melee iirc

[vivid fractal]

Right right gotcha

[frank remnant]

Sadly I don't see any single target potential for all acolyte spec, even infernal shade explode seems bad

[wintry flame]

How much you doing?

[wintry flame]

The DoT version used to be so good for single target, granted it scaled infinitely but shhhh

[frank remnant]

DoT version got nerfed?

there are a cap here

when explode version can crit and "shotgun" with multiple minion

[austere breach]

does this mean Bone amulet is like bis ?

because of bone helmet

unique

🤔

im editing my loot filter, it's a total mess now

[wintry flame]

Interaction between the Sacrifice more multi and Dread shade refreshing the shade. They capped it to 2 refreshes it used to be unlimited so you could stack the 250% multi infinitely

[obtuse quest]

In theory.

[austere breach]

also (im quite of a noob) since I use the bone armour helmet now on my loot filter, it means I only look for exalted helmet, no matter the bases) that will have one or two affixe I want right

that's how it works

and how I should proceed

like +lvl spirit plague for me

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[austere breach]

so we need different rules if we either look for a replacement or a item to use for legendary items

interesting

a bit messy in the loot filter

🥲

[vivid valve]

Yeah mage and acolyte will have trouble with Uber abberoth

Is there any acolyte build doing over 700 corr for season yet

[void vigil]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/stygian-coal-lich-guide do not use this guide fr

sure with 1000% crit chance and multiplier its good and red rings and nihilus, sure. Its a good build, anything less, It's just ass

[obtuse quest]

OH

It uses the new gloves to fix crit chance

You help me figured out the missing piece lmao

[void vigil]

I have it, still ass 😄

I don't understand where he is getting his damage from

I'm not seeing aaanything near it

[sage sluice]

Server lagged on patch launch day when I finished my character and nothing (apparent) happened when I clicked the Create Character button... so I clicked it again to be greeted by two instances of the same character.

Got disconnected when I tried to log in and decided to wait a couple of days before playing again. Got to the town with one of them. They look to be fully separate.

[obtuse quest]

He's slotting in spell crit chance and crit multi everywhere he can.

[obtuse quest]

Day 1 server bug iirc.

[frank remnant]

probably better to mana stack instead of crit stack no?

[sage sluice]

There doesn't seem to be an issue so far with 2 character with the same name. I wonder why different names are a requirement then.

[obtuse quest]

You won't have the vurst kinda since crit gives you another multiplier.

[sage sluice]

Let's try deleting one of them. I will report the result.

[frank remnant]

crit is an expensive multiplier, need to cap ur crit chance and stack crit multiplier

idk if it's worth tbh

instead mana stacking with lots of mana regen to keep ur current mana as high as possible

[wintry flame]

okay hoping today we get enough gear to kill boss dummy in sub 1min

[obtuse quest]

We also got the funnier method of using singularity and ignoring crit.

[sage sluice]

I couldn't delete the first one I tried (lower level). Several tries, but nothing happened when I clicked delete character. Then I tried the second( higher level), it got deleted with no problem, then the first one could be deleted too with no issues.

[vivid valve]

How much dps is that on real bosses

Any acolyte build looking good for Uber abberoth?

[wintry flame]

I have 5 rogues hitting for 550k-1mil per hit with 2mil bursts depending on my harvest procs. idk how much dps but hits are ~70k on bosses. I insta kill mostly everything atm

[wintry flame]

most probs will have to abom reroll tbh

farm some abom gear, snapshot and win 😛

[arctic owl]

spectral putrescence is a hit?! okay.

[wintry flame]

yehhhh

[austere breach]

@obtuse questthanks again, now I feel way less squishy

and I have a path for my defense

[void vigil]

What kind of build are you making?

[frank remnant]

is witchfire a good candidate for bossing? Those node seems insane

[wintry blaze]

more

[arctic owl]

👀 bro weaver wtf

[obtuse quest]

Not really.

[glass shale]

Does this damage apply to my death knights ?

[wintry blaze]

only skeletal mages

[wintry flame]

cold crit skeleton rogues

[glass shale]

yes but death knights count as skeleton mages right ...

oh wait it says so when i hold alt

nvm

Also i know it says so in the skill but just double checking this counts as a more damage modifier right

[wintry flame]

yeh

[glass shale]

so this would be better to get then this one

since its increased

[haughty sedge]

So as it turns out, for melee lich the safest place is in the enemy's face.

[haughty sedge]

Depends, if you have minion cold damage scaling that node might be better.

[glass shale]

why minion cold damage ?

[haughty sedge]

Idk, but if you have it, that node is probably better.

[glass shale]

?? u dont know but u do know

[surreal wasp]

I tried push 100 monos for torment warlock... no dps (like 30k in tooltip), no good sustain ward/hp

[glass shale]

how does that work

[vivid valve]

Is that good for corruptions too

[haughty sedge]

I don't know why one would have minion cold damage scaling, but if you do have it, that node is probably better .

[surreal wasp]

Totally, warlock in 1.2 not meta build

[wintry flame]

abom is pretty slow in monos tbh

[glass shale]

yes but im asking why is that node better specificly with mininon cold damage ?

[vivid valve]

How about flame wraith crit build

[glass shale]

it says nothign about cold damage

[wintry blaze]

not having issues im farming 430 corruption Reign of Dragons

[haughty sedge]

Because it makes your minions only deal cold damage.

[glass shale]

does not say anywheere

that it does that

[surreal wasp]

May be good gear... and slowing bosses

[haughty sedge]

If you take away the lightning and fire ones, which one's left?

[wintry blaze]

this is good enoug dmg on Cythonic fissure

[glass shale]

death knights

is what im using

which removes all other mages and now i only have death knights

[surreal wasp]

Check Alexandar/BoomBoomBoom on lastepichtools planner please

[glass shale]

these

[haughty sedge]

Yes, but I'm talking reasons why someone would take Frost Lich, not you specifically.

[surreal wasp]

I can see u build?

[haughty sedge]

You are correct that Death Knights have no synergy with that node.

[wintry blaze]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

oh it doesnt show mb

Pinnah/Euhhhhhhhhhh

just stack as much Necrotic Damage and Necrotic Res

with Crit multi when you can

[vivid valve]

Okay so what would you all say is the best overall end game build for Aco

[surreal wasp]

Check my build plz: alexandar/boomboomboom

[wintry blaze]

i did

[wintry flame]

snapshotting minions

unfortunately

if you want clear, defenses, and single target and be good at all you need to snapshot the more you do it the better you are in all of those categories...

[surreal wasp]

Tyvm

[chrome mason]

@obtuse quest Have you seen the woven echo with all the rune mages

legit 25 prisons, its insane

[obtuse quest]

No, I'm stuck mass producing nemesis tower

LMAO

[delicate belfry]

i rerolled this trashy class because mage is even more trashy

[surreal wasp]

U can drop rune research?

I'm nеwer see one

[obtuse quest]

Research runes don't exist anymore.

[surreal wasp]

Off in league?

What sealed experimental affix? No have insight

[obtuse quest]

Doesn't even exist in legacy eitther.

"Deleted from the game altogether"

[chrome mason]

its PEAK, 25 prisons and since its an echo it can proc the double mage spawns weaver node

[obtuse quest]

Crazy, I haven't got the need to mass farm yet but looks like I got a plan B

[arctic crystal]

why does it still loose hp?

nvm im dumb

i read it wrong

[obtuse quest]

You thought it was 6 of each didn't you

[pure sandal]

Stop me if i'm wrong but, if i have an exatled with Legendary potential and for example an Unique like Marina lost soul, i can combine them to create a legendary weapon, right ?

[arctic crystal]

nono ithought over 6

[wintry blaze]

low ass base roll but its fine it hit necro res on the 2nd one

[arctic crystal]

i thought i eould decay under 6 minions

[obtuse quest]

Unique needs to have Legendary Potential and an exalted with 4 affixes, yes

[pure sandal]

4 affixes at least T6 ?

[arctic crystal]

and then it wouldnt over 6 minions

[obtuse quest]

Oh, oopsie!

[arctic crystal]

ye

[obtuse quest]

At least one affix must be T6 or higher. (Which makes it a purple rarity item)

[arctic crystal]

so 1 point wasted

[pure sandal]

Okay thanks for the help, i'm so sorry

[obtuse quest]

No issue

[strange tendon]

You guys, is there a way to change the damage type of the poison aura? If not what other classes that use damage aura please?

[next marten]

Is there a way to make Wraith Lord chill out? He keeps sacrificing my auto respawning minions non stop even out of combat

[obtuse quest]

You can change it to shred armour instead.
No, it still sucks.
If you want an aura, go Paladin's Judgement Aura, or Mage's Fire Aura.

[next marten]

I have to mute the game to go through loot and stuff

[obtuse quest]

No, other than killing him.

[strange tendon]

Sounds good ty

[high smelt]

Anyone do 1000C yet on Acolyte

[wintry blaze]

im at 486 currently just chilling there

[high smelt]

easy?

[wintry blaze]

sometime random deaths but mainly easy

[twin epoch]

At like 350c with fissure warlock and just got aberroth. First time pushing endgame so nothing to compare to, but build feels solid. Having an invuln button makes bosses a lot easier, and with 4k ward map deaths happen but are fairly rare. Damage is def plenty

[wintry blaze]

sounds like a fellow Cythonic Fissure enjoyer

[twin epoch]

Yep

Might look into some other builds now. Dont think I want to push this one any further

[wintry blaze]

trying to go for Uber then might look into something else

[twin epoch]

Btw how much do the void gloves help with tankiness just out of curiosity. Farmed the boss for a while, but those are the only item that I couldnt get dropped at all for the build

[quartz dragon]

anyone doing the dread infernal shade ?

[quartz dragon]

whose are ya following?

[high smelt]

What build can do 10m+ dps

Possibly some crit infernal shade?

[twin epoch]

Maxroll

[austere breach]

those monolith areas looks so good now

[quartz dragon]

cthonic with chaos bolt?

[twin epoch]

Yep

Idk if its optimal, havent really done any theorycrafting/looking at other setups yet, but worked well enough

[quartz dragon]

im doing infernal shade warlock for now, seems good

[amber eagle]

no dmg)

[obtuse quest]

6k a hit against lv 100.

That's... not that good.

[wintry flame]

yeah they aren't snapshotting and their gear looks pretty meh atm

[obtuse quest]

Like, this is the infamous boss one shotter we're talking about.

6k is peanuts.

[wintry flame]

yeah it's a fraction of it's 60+mil dps capabilities

[wintry blaze]

soooo turns out that the 10 harbringers woven echo is hard when they have 550% increase hp and dmg

[obtuse quest]

It IS 10 boss fights in a row.

[wintry blaze]

turns out the small one one shots me ...

[obtuse quest]

[wintry blaze]

😂

[amber eagle]

this no up dps....

[wintry flame]

whats it like with dps hmmm

[wintry blaze]

oof

[pearl snow]

I've been overkilled by 4 and whopping 4 twice now lmao I understand this feeling

[wintry blaze]

ive been overkill by 0 so many times

worse feeling is when a Crit overkill you by 0

[tall mural]

I really wish infernal shades blew up when you replaced them with another shade, it really makes the zombie delivery system kinda meh

[quartz dragon]

imagine not having 1k hp at least smh

coal lich looks fun ngl

[wintry blaze]

I have 1.3k HP with usually around 4-5k ward

[warm mauve]

does this buff minions too ? or why is that one in the guide

[wintry flame]

no

it's for block and armor

[warm mauve]

ah

[obtuse quest]

It's to make sure you die less.

[warm mauve]

losing HP sounds like the oppostive but i gues the defense stats are just better

[obtuse quest]

This is technically not an issue if you're running the low life ward setup.

[warm mauve]

using the Abomination build

[wary tinsel]

best lootfilter? For Warlock + merch

[warm mauve]

Rax uploaded one you can set up

[warm mauve]

your dmg also is all around the place

[wintry flame]

nice look good!

[warm mauve]

seeing 20-100k slaps from abomination is wild

[red harness]

wraithlord

[warm mauve]

i know but my Abomination is doing similar dmg

[red harness]

yeah idk why it ranges from 20k to 100k

[warm mauve]

but sometimes he has brain issues and cant get closer to enemys

lol

[gleaming elbow]

why is that low?

[obtuse quest]

Do you let it eat minions?

[red harness]

yeah

[obtuse quest]

Yeah probably why

[high smelt]

can wraithlord or abomination be commanded to aoe in certain areas

like crostorm on BM

[obtuse quest]

No

[high smelt]

Crow BM is goated atm was wondering if Aco had that.

oh

[warm mauve]

i wish my abomination would stop getting stuck on some places

just attacking air and cant command him to get closer

[high smelt]

lol

does wraithlord do that too?

[warm mauve]

didnt play with wraithlord yet

dmg just all over the place with that boy xd

[obtuse quest]

He's ranged, so much less issues.

[high smelt]

you got a build guide for that

[warm mauve]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/abomination-necromancer-guide#loot-filter-header

[red harness]

even if wraithlord get stuck

you can just transplant

then he tps with u

[wintry flame]

lets goooo 4lp next please

[quartz dragon]

why cant i find any of my uniques ; (

[high smelt]

wow loosk real tanky

[obtuse quest]

The curse of the desire sensor.

I don't have a boneclamor at all lmao

[warm mauve]

stuff like that just kinda makes me giggle. He is stuck top right corner attacking air

in an open field

and cant get closer

xD

[quartz dragon]

why do u even need boneclamor? xD

[warm mauve]

yea

[obtuse quest]

Because I'm making an alt Acolyte

And I want to cook with witchfire.

[high smelt]

surprised no uber abby clears with necro yet unless abom is having buggy ness on that

or dying

[obtuse quest]

Messing with acolyte builds happen for me every season, it's why I camp this channel.

[high smelt]

i usually camp mage but its looked cooked this season

top end mage doing 200k dps while prima, rogue , and sentinel 20m

Aco i still need to see more but if you guys are saying Abom does 20m+ thats another

[gleaming elbow]

why almost no one goes physical lich

[wintry blaze]

becasue lich as a whole is kinda bad

[obtuse quest]

With what skill exactly?

[high smelt]

even crit flame wraith lich?

[gleaming elbow]

rip blood

[obtuse quest]

We're closer to like half a mil if anything.

[high smelt]

Abom can't do like 20million+ ? i heard it has potential

[obtuse quest]

Yes, but only against bosses.

[gleaming elbow]

yall mean 20m dps or 20m per hit

[obtuse quest]

Our average is much lower.

[obtuse quest]

Rip blood will either have shit clear or shit single target.

It's also much more suited as a support/mana gain.

[gleaming elbow]

am doing the mass global spell dmg and use marrow shards for huge dmg on single target

[high smelt]

oh.

so like when clearing regular maps the abom does low dmg?

[quartz dragon]

yeah, afaik abom is only bossing

[high smelt]

oh shit damn

[warm mauve]

for me in early mapping rn he's fine

[high smelt]

what acolyte build is good balanced

[warm mauve]

a bit slow for aoe but shreds all tanky enemys

[quartz dragon]

cthonic fissure afaik

[obtuse quest]

Oh, that works, but becuase of marrow mechanics, no one plays that, it's REALLY jank.

[warm mauve]

also him never dyign and jsut going map to map is realy nice too

[wintry blaze]

i'd say Torment Cythonic Fissure

[delicate belfry]

can coal lich reach 1k+?

[gleaming elbow]

do bone curse crit?

[obtuse quest]

Not by default. 0% base crit rate.

[obtuse quest]

Probably.

[viral cosmos]

Someone may know why i can't see DPS of my summons?

[gleaming elbow]

so I need base crit chance on my gear

[viral cosmos]

This really makes it difficult to select items with better damage :/.

[obtuse quest]

Summons won't have it, because most minions have more than one attack with different sttats.

[viral cosmos]

Any ideas on an easy way to check this?

[obtuse quest]

Pen and paper, or knowing the basic math on how scaling works, sadly.

[obtuse quest]

Correct.

[viral cosmos]

ok, thanks :/

[red harness]

did this come out good or should i re-enchant

[unborn hedge]

good

[red harness]

okie

[obtuse quest]

Pretty decent.

[unborn hedge]

how does julra obsesion works? for example increased cast speed, does it change it to "more" or it stays as increase?

cuz wondering why for flame wraiths build ppl play it

[obtuse quest]

TLDR: Clones the affixes and add"minion" to it.

Flame wraiths play it because they don't get infernal shade's boost.

[grave flame]

Lich question, is the Stygian Coal build basically the only way to go? I'm trying out a Harvest build but not sure if its total cope, the damage is okaaaay but not fantastic.

[fresh leaf]

Does the Hollow Lich node not convert Harvest damage leeched as health into increased damage?

[obtuse quest]

Harvest works, but that's about it. Coal is stronger.

[vale jacinth]

Coal is the best lich build you can possibly play if that's what you mean

[obtuse quest]

It doesn't convert skill specific leeches.

[high smelt]

what corruption levels is it doing for s2

[fresh leaf]

thanks good to know

[grave flame]

Fair enough, I suppose I'll just farm for one then. Is there anything I need to be careful about when doing the switch? Don't want to accidentally brick.

[vale jacinth]

As high as you wanna go

[high smelt]

2k i want

[obtuse quest]

Don't do it if you don't have coal is basically it.

Build bricks without a coal.

[vale jacinth]

It chills ez at 1k+ corruption

[high smelt]

Nice

[grave flame]

Figured that much, yeah. My plan was to switch over as soon as I have a Coal, but I wasn't sure if its dependant on any other items/stats to really get off the ground.

[bold hatch]

I’ve been doing well with volatile zombie lich, not super far into end game though

[vale jacinth]

Nope only coal is needed to get laser beam online

[grave flame]

Splendid

[vale jacinth]

And u can use drain life in the meantime

[obtuse quest]

Depending on style:
Poison: Access to the poison chance node at far right of lich.
Crit: A source of flat crit.

[vale jacinth]

Drain life will still do giga damage for farming 100 corruption

[grave flame]

One last question promise, is this Maxroll guide solid? I know the popular stuff can be iffy.
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/stygian-coal-lich-guide

[grave flame]

My Harvest build does okay in 100 corruption for now so I've got that going at least

Until I get a coal

[obtuse quest]

This one is crit, and don't expect numbers as high as theirs without the legendaries.

[vale jacinth]

All maxroll guides are certified 1k+ corruption

[grave flame]

Yeah ofc, but at the very least its not like, offensively wrong?

[obtuse quest]

No, it's not wrong.

It's just a lot of commitment to peak

[grave flame]

That's fair, as long as I can work on it one piece at a time. At least gives me some goals to work towards whilst I refine and farm.

[vale jacinth]

Yeah you would have an easier time running cof tbh

[high smelt]

damn all these builds using double red rings but its 40million each 😦

[vale jacinth]

Yeah red rings easiest to get on cof

[high smelt]

maybe ill do COF now

[grave flame]

COF?

[vale jacinth]

In a couple days you will be swimming in red rings then u imprint it

[wintry flame]

hmm I need red rings

[obtuse quest]

Circle of Fortune.

[grave flame]

ooooooho

That's the faction I picked so that's that sorted

[high smelt]

but if it drops on MG i can imprint that and sell them

does imprinted drops as same exact stats too?

like LP

[grave flame]

I've had enough of Market Board Gaming (tm) on PoE2 so I decided to do the loot faction in this one

[obtuse quest]

No

LP will be random

[high smelt]

nice

[high smelt]

yeah COF is real good

im just too lazy to swap now 😄

[grave flame]

I'm still trying to figure out how to like, optimize using the prophecies and stuff

But I've been using it a bunch for crafting materials

Getting runes and stuff

[high smelt]

the guy who killed uber abberoth on crow bm geared his char like full BIS and 2-3 lp in 1 day using COF + Weaver tree

super target farming

[vale jacinth]

Plus now all the trash exalted stats on good bases can be rerolled into good exalted affixes too so now you wanna hoard all good base items as well

[high smelt]

its real epic

[gleaming elbow]

whats a red ring?

[obtuse quest]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMCYHZKA

[bitter heath]

Did runemaster get mega nerfed or something since launch? I don't see runic invocation builds other than hydra really ,thats kinda depressing.

[vale jacinth]

A powerful unique ring bis for builds wanting more dr so bis for hc players

[obtuse quest]

We cook undead here sir.

[gleaming elbow]

not so needed right now then

[high smelt]

mage is cooked

[edgy yew]

I need an acolyte build, any suggestion? I leveled with the Maxroll one and then tried the Stygian Coal Lich build but ... felt very clunky. Need something to do echos/timelines mostly, don't care much about bossing aside from Shade

[vale jacinth]

It's been getting nerfed every patch since 1.0 yeah because ward got lower so it needs dr the most lol

[grave flame]

I do have to say though

[obtuse quest]

Torment is the easy pick.

[grave flame]

Reaper form is one of the coolest things I've seen in ARPGs

[bitter heath]

damn that is lame, runic invocation is so cool

[vale jacinth]

It's a really good skill yeah doubles your hp

[high smelt]

RM when you had to actually do combos was the coolest thing iplayed in arpgs. too bad about so many nerfs

its trash now

[edgy yew]

it is pretty cool, but it felt very clunky. Maybe it's less clunky on M&K but on controller was just... weird 😄

[bitter heath]

glad acolyte is doing great though, so ill probably do that

[grave flame]

That too but I mean more like, visually/conceptually

[edgy yew]

how accurate are the tier lists on MR, any takes there?

[grave flame]

You turn into death and start swinging double scythes around how cool is that shit

[high smelt]

actually kind accurate this time. they played the patch for 4 months (PTR)

[gleaming elbow]

hoped we'd get a mtx for reaper form

[high smelt]

altho its missing stormbear which is probably high A tier

[vale jacinth]

It's not trash just harder to gear, and hydra Hedron still a good blaster

[edgy yew]

LE has good takes on a lot of things: falconeer is very unique, lich, runemaster, forge guard

[obtuse quest]

Accurate for 1k corruption or higher

[high smelt]

those S tier builds reach 1k much faster

[gleaming elbow]

also is it a bug that blood splatter have no effects paired with a mtx on rip blood

[high smelt]

same for bear form. would be awesome

[vale jacinth]

No because it's a separate sub skill different from ripblood itself

[gleaming elbow]

but I mean like the skill have no effects visually

[grave flame]

At the very least it seems the stats you want for Harvest and Stygian Coal are roughly similar

[vale jacinth]

Maybe, smite fissure hot fix they did was prob the same?

Invisible

[grave flame]

Crit, Necrotic Damage, Intelligence

[ruby igloo]

want some folks thoughts, playing infernal shade crit. Got a LP1 wrongwarp, T7 spell crit or t7 multi

[vale jacinth]

Harvest also requires the unique axe to have it actually do good damage too

[edgy yew]

mmmkay so I guess torment warlock or the abomination thingie

[obtuse quest]

How consistent do you think you’re critting

[ruby igloo]

60-70% I'd estimate

[grave flame]

Mhmmm. I assume that Stygian Coal still outdoes it though.

[obtuse quest]

If you think that’s enough, crit multi. Otherwise crit chance

[vale jacinth]

Ohh yeah it's not even close lol

[grave flame]

Sad but understandable

[gleaming elbow]

just need mad alchemist ladle then my build half done

[vale jacinth]

A skills strength depends on how many scaling damage multipliers it has, which harvest only has two baseline in tree

[gleaming elbow]

wdym by scaling dmg? the "more dmg" %?

[high smelt]

stygian build seem to need really good gear b4 you can start it tho

[edgy yew]

how much snapshotting is involved on this Aberration build

[high smelt]

like high crit at least

[vale jacinth]

Then at that point if u really wanted to play harvest you would have to layer addition sources like chaos bolt if you wanted to do a decent bleed build

[obtuse quest]

More damage nodes ye

[obtuse quest]

You need high crit for the crit version, but there’s also the poison version

[gleaming elbow]

so marrow shards is great then

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[edgy yew]

lol

ok

[obtuse quest]

Marrow shards is good damage but horrible playstyle.

Because of how it works.

[gleaming elbow]

no need for playstyle I just have rip blood clear the map for me

[vale jacinth]

Yeah marrow shards is sick but yeah you need to be a good pilot and build properly it's a bit more complex build then other options

[edgy yew]

ok I kinda don't want to walk around being followed by a killing machine so let's try the torment one 😄

[vale jacinth]

I never was a big fan of bouncy health ping-pong

[gleaming elbow]

wym by that complex build

isnt playing lich basically playing with your health

[obtuse quest]

Short answer: every cast of your marrow shard must be a specific angle to do a double hit or you do no damage.

[vale jacinth]

You have to build it with aod and scale lot of leech and you can like level with it lol

Cant*

[gleaming elbow]

I dont understand wym by angle? you talking about the node in the tree? am not going that node tho

[obtuse quest]

No, as in AIMING the skill marrow shards when casting it

[vale jacinth]

Ye aiming is the biggest factor too also it has a bug while aiming and stutter stepping

[gleaming elbow]

yea I remember having issues where my dumb *** minion would stand right in front of me so I'd lose dmg

[obtuse quest]

Oh no, that’s the least of your problems

#💀┃acolyte message

[high smelt]

So how is flamewraith build compared to coal or abom? I heard dread saying it got over buffed

b4 patch tho

[obtuse quest]

Read the convo about it, starts from linked messeage.

[vale jacinth]

Over buffed no, it was giga nerfed in 1.0

Lost like 150% more damage

[obtuse quest]

Basically it’s core damage comes from a subkill that you have to hit at a specific range or it’ll whiff and do no damage

[high smelt]

oh

oh sorry I meant infernal shade

[vale jacinth]

It's still really good just nit as absurdly crazy as in the past for normal fire wraith crit version

[high smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZtwvXkHqxU&t=486s

[vale jacinth]

Ohh you meant infernal shade yeah never played it outside of just buffing minion builds

If dread can make it work tho then it should be solid

Fitting name too 😂

[unborn hedge]

ohh just dropped lp2 julra xd

[vale jacinth]

Obsession? 😱

[unborn hedge]

seems pretty price'y on trade

[vale jacinth]

Pog

[wintry flame]

that's niceee

[vale jacinth]

If you slam cast speed/attack speed and armor shred then gg

[compact sorrel]

How is torment warlock this season?

[vale jacinth]

Still solid

[high smelt]

Anyone here doing infernal shade lich?

think im gonna do that looks fun

[chrome mason]

AHHHHHHHHHHH

IT HAPPENEDD

[vale jacinth]

Congrats! Coal enjoyer loves it

[chrome mason]

i am #1 coal enjoyer

[gleaming elbow]

do base attack rate change cast speed?

that was my marrow tree to one shot bosses after finished stacking rip blood

[high smelt]

first time doing Lich. Still lvling/gearing. So in end game, where does survivability come from with all this sealed health stuff and no ward.

[chrome mason]

Leech mostly

[high smelt]

what about big hits

[chrome mason]

And reaper form is basically a second life because if you go to 0 you go back to human first

Endurance cap

Since we're at low life if you have enough endurance threshold youre always getting the 60% DR

[high smelt]

oh wow

but still I wonder how dangerous that is on uber aberroth 😄

[chrome mason]

Transplant with bone armor also gives DR

Reaper form has armor stacking as well, elixer of death node in Lich tree gives 50% phys and necrotic DR while active

Theres alot of defensive layers

[wheat nexus]

hello

[chrome mason]

We also just naturally stack alot of HP because it becomes a damage multiplier thanks to death seal

[wheat nexus]

any ideea why i get hit like a train in 100 corruption with this stats? stygian coal lich

[chrome mason]

Can you show the defensive tab at the bottom as well

[wheat nexus]

need more health for the build?

[chrome mason]

Yeah you definitely need more health

This is what i'm looking like, at 250 corruption no problems

Some random deaths to crit because i havent found any good crit reduction pieces but other than that no issues

[wheat nexus]

u playing lizard build or wanderdota build?

[chrome mason]

Lizard rn

[high smelt]

I wonder if infernal shade can beat stygian coal build

[red harness]

man how do u cap all res

[gleaming elbow]

sacrifice damage

[chrome mason]

passive tree, 20% blessing from timeline

[next wedge]

Hello, does spirit plague actually do anything or is the tooltip dps completly wrong

[wheat nexus]

yea i need to get my 20%

so i can focus on health idols after

[high smelt]

did you get two red rings yet?

[chrome mason]

Nope

[grave flame]

Another quick Stygian Coal question, should the aiming like, change to where I cast Rip Blood? Its useful, just wondering if that's intended.

[obtuse quest]

No

[obtuse quest]

DoT, auto spreads, counts as a curse. Mostly a clear skill

[obtuse quest]

You cast it in the direction where the mobs are basically

[grave flame]

Yeah I get that, I just noticed that when I spam rip blood for mana, the area where the bolts fire seems to change to where I press rip blood

[obtuse quest]

It just tries to find a target nearest to the circle you casted and fires

[next wedge]

it may be a case of its doing more then I think it is then 🤔

[grave flame]

Ah

[red harness]

youve gotta be kidding me

[edgy yew]

Do youse hide all non-build/special exalted? Or show everything

[chrome mason]

I show all Double T6 and T7's where the exalts are on the prefixes, and I highlight all Exalt Double T6/T7's on bases i use, cause of the rune that lets you reroll the affixes while keeping the tiers

So even a double T6 wand with fire damage and vitality as its exalts, i can roll into something usable with the rune (if i'm lucky ofcourse)

[edgy yew]

aaaand, any tips/guides for a decent weaver tree? I added a bunch of mages to my stuff but I don't know if that's worth it

[wise basalt]

Should I just use a normal golem when I'm running around with skeleton mages and abomination

[wintry flame]

depends what else you have already

[wise basalt]

Well nothing else lol, 5 skeleton mages, abomination and the 3 dudes it spawns

[wintry flame]

no dread shade?

[wise basalt]

Yes dread shade

[high smelt]

hmm all these builds need 2 red rings

i might pass on acolyte

[wintry flame]

it's not needed it's just tankiness 😛

[lament kernel]

how do you make your minions survivie 300 corruption? im at 200 and they die sometimes so often :/

[unborn hedge]

by not playing skeletons :/

[wintry flame]

I play skeles they never die, but I am snapshot abuser

even without could be fine tbh

[lament kernel]

but skeleton army is cool :/

[warm mauve]

man how does the dmg varrie from 25k to 230k xD

[high smelt]

lol

[wintry flame]

those enemies take more melee dmg

[warm mauve]

but x10?

[wintry flame]

there's a few enemy types that are vulnerable to melee

[unborn hedge]

btw doing julra t4 in 10s is pretty solid right?

[lament kernel]

i need more time on t2 for this boss 😅

[wintry flame]

it's good

[high smelt]

What are some good twink lvling unqiues for Aco, I'm MG so can buy

[wintry flame]

+300% increased Melee Damage Taken

looks like it varies from enemy but most are 300% to 400% increased melee dmg taken

[warm mauve]

that should increase the 20k to like 100k

with 300%

or not?

[lament kernel]

is minion armor affix important?

[wintry flame]

idk the mob type it was I was just looking at bestiary and reading the mods on other enemies that have the vulnerability

[wintry flame]

if you can scale it or get enough

[warm mauve]

well. Abomination dmg is just wild anyway xd

[wintry flame]

which is tough outside of dread shade and vit stacking

you also have 20% dmg variance

[lament kernel]

i have minion armor 0 and increased armor 5% right now 😇

[wintry flame]

Int, HP, and Regen are your best bets for defense

[warm mauve]

would also depend on what minions you use i gues

[lament kernel]

35 int 543% hp and some health regen like 80% from passive tree

i have fire archers and fire mages and wraiths and fire golems and dread shade

[warm mauve]

all i can say is. My baby is immortal with no minion modifer other than hp %

xd

450% or so

[wintry flame]

int could be higher and regen is way beneficial early on

like even 1 exalt regen

[wintry blaze]

oh just hit that 460k on dummy with Torment lock

[wintry flame]

noice!

[wintry blaze]

pretty hard to see the number

might have hit something bigger idk

[lament kernel]

will try to remember it with exalt regen if i find one and can fit in

[wintry blaze]

oh i found one

[thin knot]

Im following the maxroll tormented warlock guide and was wondering how I can go about getting some of the gear they have on there? Do I just grind the monoliths?

[chrome mason]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/ You can go here and search for the item's specifically to see their drop tables

[thin knot]

Thank you!

really good to know!

[wintry flame]

the rogues be pumping dmg tho, lmao it's like 1.7-2.2mil and I think a couple hit all at once so I got a 4mil 😛

[grave flame]

Does critical strike chance also work on spells? Or does it specifically need to be spell critical strike chance?

[wintry flame]

generic works for all

[grave flame]

Gotcha ty

[lament kernel]

cant find minion health regen on lastepochtools :/

[autumn elbow]

just realized, font of the erased would have been so good on lich if seal didn't block ward gain

[wintry flame]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AAwdgzEA

[wheat nexus]

@chrome mason can u check this planner? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BanLV49o idk but i feel weak for 100 corruption mobs dont die easy

[stuck owl]

Lich, Level 83

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (70) / Warlock (6)

General:

▸ Health: 1,628, Regen: 137.09/s
▸ Mana: 214.95, Regen: 16.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 178%, Regen: 3/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 8 Dex / 89 Int / 0 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 80% / 96% / 81% / 81% / 215% / 54%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 384
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (794)

Used skills:

Reaper Form / Death Seal / Rip Blood / Transplant / Drain Life

[austere breach]

if I get a buff during an ability does it get boosted or it snapshot the state I was before casting it ?

[wise basalt]

Is the wraithlord helmet enough to go corruption 300 without anything else? xD

[chrome mason]

This, also get blood grasps asap it is a huge damage increase. I'd also reccommend swapping the rings for Opal rings with a exalted INT roll. Int on chestpiece as well instead of mana. Getting a better relic would also be big cause the exalted necrotic res is completely wasted. Ukheiros is probably your best bet cause its easily target farmed with 1LP to slam int in it, same with gloves. I'd say you're definitely looking too much at crit chance rn. Crit gets more value when you have higher base damage, and int has 3x scaling in this build due to the multipliers of Coal.

[wise basalt]

Did they remove that you have to reapply dread shade every few seconds or is it a skill that changes this?

[grave flame]

Probably the wrong place but is there a "meta" for the weaver tree to maximise juicing or are all the directions good depending on what you want to do

[chrome mason]

hasnt really been figured out yet, we dont have the actual numbers and formulas for the way any of it is calculated so people are just testing

[grave flame]

Fair enough, just gonna go with vibes for now then. Been going down the lizard trees because I love loot lizards.

[chrome mason]

So far people have absolutely advocated for getting these nodes whilst leveling to 100 however

Cause it gets rid of all the shit nodes in ur tree and just leaves you with special nodes, and exp tome nodes

[proper fox]

is warlock useless in this patch? i cant handle 300 corruption

[peak rune]

can I run Stygian Coal Lich pre lvl 70 if I already have Stygian Coal?

[chrome mason]

Yeah you can swap np if youre not at empowered mono's yet the moment you find COal

[peak rune]

nah I just finished the campaign and im at lvl 56 and got coal drop

[wise basalt]

God damn wraithlord is still so strong and now I don't even have to re apply dread shade anymore wtf, it's even better now

Why is it so much better than normal minions

[crisp ridge]

if ur not, try out the frenzy ammy with it

[lament kernel]

yes shade is now forever until the possessed minions dies 😊

[wise basalt]

Yeah love this change

I thought to myself I want to try wraithlord again but man farming the helmet will take ages

Then I put two helmets in the forge with the rune and boom I had this helmet second try LOL so lucky

[lament kernel]

❤️

[wise basalt]

I think that's it for my luck the rest of the season 🤣😭

[crisp ridge]

dam u lucky, i wanted to try it but i didnt get one til lvl 92 lmao

tho for whatever reason, ive gotten 3 aarons wills with lp

[unkempt oasis]

anyone has any idea for a minion bulid only?

[crisp ridge]

there is heaps of variants

skele mage
wraithlord
golems
abom
can probably run more

[regal fable]

Ok all, question. Aura of Decay converts Poison to Armor Shred and Icarian Poison node makes it self afflict at an infinitely scaling rate. Eventually you get to ~95 stacks and your armor is in the bin. How would you mitigate this awful downside?

[wintry flame]

Unfortunately you don't unless you get armor to mitigate it or have some way of perma cleansing

[stiff summit]

playing AoD is gigachad

cleanse on potion use

[regal fable]

I need it for Aspect of Death. 90 stacks is 18% global more damage. Cleansing would just put them all back on me within 2 seconds 😛

I'm at Dodge Cap. Would block do anything for me?

[wintry flame]

unless you have 100% it wouldn't do much

[stiff summit]

getting rework in S3

[regal fable]

sigh that's the hope I guess at this point.

[rich frigate]

Does Hemomancer on Rip Blood does anything if I am casting Rip Blood from Chaos Bolt? Or does cast speed only affect directly cast skills?

[chrome mason]

Only direct afaik

[edgy yew]

what's the point of Chains of Uleros on the Torment build?

[crisp ridge]

bit hard t say with just "torment build"

[edgy yew]

The one on Maxroll, sorry

[edgy yew]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/torment-warlock-guide#gameplay-header

This is what

[crisp ridge]

dmg + more necro res + easy lp + reduced stun duration

[granite wyvern]

how yall finding torment warlock this season? seems a bit weak to me

[high smelt]

what lvl should I go stygian coil

or crit chance

[drifting haven]

Anyone playing with rogue skeletons? I just dropped the unique for them

[wintry flame]

I am, but not using unique video above if you want to see

[high smelt]

will i have a bad time if i start Coil at level 36 😄

hate how the crit gloves are lvl 71

[drifting haven]

Looks really cool. Though I am reading any of these minions builds need to snapshot to do well

I loathe snapshotting idk why

[wintry flame]

yeah I snapshot a lot now

but you can do minimal and not worry

[high smelt]

every map you gotta snap?

[wintry flame]

no

in monos you snapshot once and can run maps with it until you die, leave mono area, or logout

[drifting haven]

I just wanna Summon my rogue skeles and blast ya know

[high smelt]

nice

[wintry flame]

fair yeah they will suck 😛

[high smelt]

does COF make the whole imprinting target farm even better?

or does MG + imprinting work fine

[crisp ridge]

what imprinting target farm 🤔

[high smelt]

weaver tree

literally only hard thing to buy from MG for this Coil build is red rings 1lp or more. insane price

the rest is fairly simple

[granite wyvern]

any warlock enjoyers here? how's your experience been with corruption?

[crisp ridge]

currently pushing super smooth with an offmeta build. Tho too me its noticesbly worse than peak warlock release

[granite wyvern]

what build did you go for mate?

and what corruption you at

[young vine]

Just bought the game and wondering if Acolyte just doesn't do any damage without minions? Level 16 and all my abilities feel super underwhelming compared to the Rogue I rolled after

[high smelt]

most people are sentinel and rogue, and lesser extent primalist. so hard to find acolyte or mage pushsing anything crazy

but i know Acolyte can since a lot of the OP builds were not nerfed

and maxroll tested like 3 to 1k+

Not even sure they tried the new doulbe ddamage shade pop

[crisp ridge]

some silly witchfire one

biut 250corr rn

feels like itll get abby and 500corr done but not uber

[crisp ridge]

honestly i feel the opposite, but ur lvl 16 and thats not a good indicator

[thin knot]

hmm. am I doing something wrong? Im trying to farm the Boneclamor Barbute on the black sun timeline, do I just keep going until it drops or is there a way to juice my chances?

[pearl snow]

Go till it drops. Use prophecies and nemesis to help pump more chances of the drop

[crisp ridge]

prophecies can help a lot

also weaver tree might be able to help

[thin knot]

ahh... is tha the observatory stuff? I haven't dabbled there yet

[pearl snow]

yes

[high smelt]

these guys have 2 red rings and a nihilus in the "endgame" guide, not even "aspirational"

[thin knot]

Ok, I think I stored up a bunch of favors for that Ill give it a shot

[high smelt]

that build is cooked

ill try an easier build

Which Aco build is not insane impossible to gear on MG

[pearl snow]

Most builds don't need crazy gear to get online afaik

[wintry flame]

use the other planner lmao

they have one before endgame

[high smelt]

im doing stygian one once im 70

or 71

i have stygian coal and gloves

[crisp ridge]

just do stygian once u have coal and enjoy the game 🤷‍♂️

[high smelt]

wont it be weak

[crisp ridge]

depends ur definition

[high smelt]

low dps

[crisp ridge]

itll still be fine

[high smelt]

oh ok

[crisp ridge]

u dont have to wait till x level to use y build

just make sure u have any specific things( in this case coal) and youll be fine

[viscid junco]

anyone have a good chthonic fissure guide thats updated?

[crisp ridge]

fissure is used in basically every warlock build

[viscid junco]

fissure, shade, spirit plague?

[pearl snow]

fissure + literally anything

not just shade

kidna depends what you want

[crisp ridge]

fissure + infernal shade is pretty fun

[marble palm]

we are back baby, torment warlock idc if its not meta, this class the most fun for me

[viscid junco]

does on hit apply to spells?

[pearl snow]

yeah

[tulip galleon]

My skeletal mage just attacks the floor against the lagon boss?

[crisp ridge]

tried clicking a?

[tulip galleon]

Yup, bro wont even try move, I can resummon and it fixes but then I dont have my shade buff so the damage is far too ass

[viscid junco]

I was following this and wondering if there is a better/updated one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rlL-VPdzKA

[young vine]

What level do the non-minion skills feel like they do damage then?

[viscid junco]

i was using the ghost one to level and it was destroying everything

[crisp ridge]

early on their fine, then on mastery choice u get big buffs with fisuure + bolts later and reaper form + death seal respectively

[lavish axle]

How button mashy is the coal build?

[crisp ridge]

not very

drain life attaches to u
death seal lasts 5ish sec
then u have double mobility

[lavish axle]

Hmm cool just got a decent coal so might try it

[crisp ridge]

if ur spamming mobility it is a bit in conparison to 1 button builds. but its not as clicky as say fireball sorc

[lavish axle]

I dont mind it when its mobility, zipping along makes it more worth it

[crisp ridge]

yea double traversal is solid

can also use reap as ur main monility and transplant as a panic button or only for bone armour

[lavish axle]

Sweet, may just reroll instead of redoing my necro

[crisp ridge]

u can respec mastery now

[lavish axle]

Yeah, but I enjoy just chilling with my minions build after work. No brain, just put up shade and run around lol

[crisp ridge]

thats fair haha

[leaden wolf]

why tf am I taking a 3.6k cold hit vs max res in a 150c echo

[crisp ridge]

crit?

also res reduc?

[scarlet crypt]

I am... just incredibly disappointed. I thought "While at max wraiths," would mean "once the maximum amount of wraiths is summoned... (then the rest occurs)", but instead it's "The wraithlord regularly consumes your non-wraith minions, gaining temporary maximum health equal to 10% of their maximum health and +3 spell damage for 10 seconds. (new line)(new line) The wraithlord casts necrotic beams in combat after the maximum amount of wraiths have been summoned."

[scarlet crypt]

wow. nevermind. it just ignores the "while at max wraiths" part. instead it's "The wraithlord will summon wraiths while in combat (maybe, if it's not doing anything else). Also, it'll regularly consume non-wraith minions, and when it starts shooting necrotic beams, it might keep shooting, regardless of the number of wraiths summoned"

[drowsy cairn]

I need a full minion guide to play, can anyone help me?

[crisp ridge]

lots of minions are viable

[drowsy cairn]

yes, suggest me a good guide to follow...

[crisp ridge]

dont follow a guide 😂 just play

[lavish axle]

Just let me google that for you....

[scarlet crypt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/filter/language=en , these here should be viable, regardless of if they're made for 1.2 specifically or not

or the ones at maxroll

I prefer LET though

[scarlet crypt]

oh my god, the summoning issue is dependent on if you took the node to give it a cooldown -_-

[vestal frigate]

So, I've been following the maxroll warlock leveling guide and been really enjoying the build.
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/warlock-leveling-guide#gameplay-and-skills-header
now I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to look toward working on uniques and kinda confused on which ones to go for/affixes to try to slam, any recommendations or pointers?:)

[crisp ridge]

basically just depends what u have, ur slowly looking to improve every slot

[wintry flame]

yeah look at what might be the easiest to get or one that is in the path of your mono progression. Sometimes if you feel weak in damage or tankiness you go out of your way to fix that specifically via crafting or target farming a unique that fixes the issue

[ashen tree]

Saaaame spot as me

Can you link your current character

[obtuse quest]

Welcome to empowered, please boost your health and other defenses.

[crisp ridge]

looks at my resistances 🫣 in empowered

[ashen tree]

Nice cold res

[obtuse quest]

It's AI order withoutt spec node shinanigans:
Eat every non-wraith minion>Summons wraiths>Beams things.

[obtuse quest]

You're asking for death

[crisp ridge]

i just changed a blessing and havent fixed it yet 😔

i am alos dying an absurd amount farming exiled mages ngl

[ashen tree]

Just

Don't die

[obtuse quest]

Just don't get hit-

[thin knot]

dang. this helmet isnt as common as they say it is

[weak knoll]

Anybody doing chaos bolt warlock?

[crisp ridge]

i am using chaos bolts if thats what ur asking

[thin knot]

Im doing the tormented warlock build

[weak knoll]

Most of the starting acolyte skills kinda suck cause it’s all physical and minions

[thin knot]

I used the acolyte leveling build and then switched over at about level 60+

[obtuse quest]

Ehh. rip blood is okay, wandering is the cheapest aoe early game, Spirit Plague carries your campaign...

[crisp ridge]

i honestly enjoy marrow spikes tbh

[weak knoll]

What leveling build

[obtuse quest]

I don't like marrow shards, it's a werid ass skill

[crisp ridge]

it gives my sorc fireball vibes, but tbh most the time i just spec into w/e build im wanting to play pretty early

even if its bad, its more fun seeing the progression

[thin knot]

The maxroll acolyte leveling build

[thin knot]

This one https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/warlock-leveling-guide

[strong urchin]

What mods increase abomination damage?
Is it only minion damage, minion melee damage, minion physical damage?

[main cypress]

what ways is their to slow the decay of hp from reaperform?

[obtuse quest]

Yes

[obtuse quest]

Get more leech.
That's about it. Decay is inevitable.

[weak knoll]

I was playing Rogue and I got this unique latern called Soulfire so now I gotta play warlock

[main cypress]

so the talent perk crimson glutton doesnt effect it?

[strong urchin]

Thanks

[obtuse quest]

Correct, it doesn't affect it.

[strong urchin]

Is there a capped attack speed for abomination? I tried applying infernal shade with frenzy node but I cannot notice the improvement

[main cypress]

hmmmmm reaperform just seems less like a signature skill and more of a meh skill cosidering theres so little support for it

[obtuse quest]

No.

[obtuse quest]

It gives you a second health bar and is effectively a buff stick.

[main cypress]

considering you go through that health bar pretty quickly just by it decaying only use it would be is to survive a 1hit KO move thats abit it

[crisp ridge]

itll generally last a long time with the amount of leech u get

but u will eventually lose the form if it goes on too long, esp if u cant hit something for leech

[obtuse quest]

You shouldn't be.
A decent build should be able to upkeep reaper form through leech as long as they're in combat.

[main cypress]

problem is getting to the next mobs to stay in combat if im not constantly hitting things i see the reaperform hp drop like a rock

[crisp ridge]

yea but u have 2x mobility skills, most builds do it with just 1

[main cypress]

im currently running harvest reaperform aura of decay bone curse and life drain

[obtuse quest]

Well. Aura of decay absolutely doesn’t help you considering it’s also draining your health.

[main cypress]

when i was making this character i was thinking being a total nightmare up close it just doesnt seem to be possible with the huge drain reaperform is

feel like 90% of my build is just lifesteal and hp to keep reaperform on for aslong as possible which leaves little wiggle room

[quartz dragon]

Try to fit in death seal instead of aura of decay, death seal makes you immune for a few seconds.

[obtuse quest]

To be fair, your skill setup has a small issue.
Aura of Decay is draining your life further by the self-inflicted poison. Unless you don't build poison damage, have overover capped poison res, or have the missing health as healing node, you're effectively hurting yourself for little gain.

Lich also has the default 1% generic leech they have, so it's the matter of having enough health, not self-harming yourself too much, and doing actual damage.

Life drain/drain life doesn't do that much damage and thus doesn't leech as much as you think.

Also, do NOT spec into Hollow Lich.

[main cypress]

figured that much just the skill itself is fundamentally flawed if the player has no way to slow down the decay once it starts to speed up. i mean i get its powerful and people have figured out a way to offset the drain but there should be more ways like getting a kill slows down the ticker again or getting some talents that slows down the ticking over all

[obtuse quest]

It would be kinda too free if you can slow down the decay outside of leech. The drain is also flat based and not % health based so you'll feel somewhat less of it with high enough health.

Hilariously, Death Seal has a node that prevents health loss effects, but it specifically excludes Reaper Form.

[main cypress]

currently 43 with 895 hp. just feels like it eats through my hp constantly have to fight to keep it going

[obtuse quest]

That’s just a little bit under average for that level though

Do you think you do enough damage?

[charred echo]

anyone know if the profane orbs from hex flurry scale with veil's tree?

[main cypress]

hard to say most of my dmg comes from aura of decay i think may need to just get a better weapon i think tho for harvest

[thin knot]

omg... literally took me 8 hours to finally drop a barbute

[obtuse quest]

Oh, that’s horrible.

If AoD is your main damage you did something horribly wrong.

[main cypress]

not sure on the stats i need to stack alongside of hp and lifesteal

[thin knot]

If its marked as common random drop would I have been better off doing other timelines instead of the one where it is supposed to be farmed?

[main cypress]

so far ive been stacking int but im noticing a huge fall off

[obtuse quest]

Not really, the timeline helps limit the loop

[obtuse quest]

Int isn’t enough, stacking the actual % inc damage affixes is better, int is only 4% inc per stat. For raw damage int is kindaaa not good

[main cypress]

so i need to stack necrotic or?

[obtuse quest]

For harvest, % inc necrotic or % inc melee

[quartz dragon]

@obtuse questi need ur acolyte knowledge

[obtuse quest]

Ask and you shall recieve

[quartz dragon]

need a bit of help with my infernal shade/ cthonic fissure warlock

i feel like im doing no damage at times xD

[obtuse quest]

Post planner?

[quartz dragon]

Mine or the one im following?

[obtuse quest]

Yours-

[quartz dragon]

lemme just see how to import it xD

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKEMk9LB

[stuck owl]

Warlock, Level 71

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Lich (8) / Warlock (56)

General:

▸ Health: 1,393, Regen: 15.94/s
▸ Mana: 220.33, Regen: 12.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 123%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 8 Dex / 28 Int / 3 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 256% / 98% / 72% / 149% / 76% / 126% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 23%, Threshold: 279
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (164)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (696)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 35%

Used skills:

Transplant / Chthonic Fissure / Infernal Shade / Bone Curse / Spirit Plague

[quartz dragon]

trying to get ghost maker dagger out of asc runes rn , but no luck

[obtuse quest]

% fire damage kinda ass, so the explode isn’t doing that much damage. Also you’re mixing damage types

[crisp ridge]

does bone curses defile defenses convert to necro shred? with the convert node

[quartz dragon]

what should i stack then if not fire damage?

[obtuse quest]

No.
Unless it says it converts, it doesn’t.

[obtuse quest]

I meant “you didn’t stack ENOUGH fire damage, stack more”

[crisp ridge]

wow, that just seems like it should

[quartz dragon]

ooohhh, on the guide he stacks DoT so i was just following that

[obtuse quest]

It’s armour shred not resist shred, you could argue that if it was resistance shred.

[crisp ridge]

its still shred for the typing of the curse, by default its phys.

o wait, im stupid

nbm

i forgot armour isnt phys res

[main cypress]

should i use 2hander or 1hander and shield?

[obtuse quest]

DoT doesn’t improve the explosion damage so…

[obtuse quest]

Ah, that’s was the missing critical info

[crisp ridge]

yea sry, used to other games having armour as phys res then u have like magical res or w/e

meaning armour shred is still useful for my build

[obtuse quest]

Depends if you want to be more offnesive or defensive

[obtuse quest]

Yup

[main cypress]

offensive

[wheat nexus]

Ty coal#1

[crisp ridge]

also to make sure im not stupid, for profane veil

is there ever a reason to have spirit plate and unholy renewal both specd? at the same time

[obtuse quest]

2h

[obtuse quest]

One only deals with ailments(debuffs), the other covers all sorts of DoT like lagon’s sweeping beam and ground DoTs

[main cypress]

high physical dmg type 2h or stuff like a stave?

[crisp ridge]

his beam is a dot? dam, also do ground dots affect me in profane?

ig anythig that isnt a hit isnt dodged?

[quartz dragon]

So i should swap back into fire dmg? i was doing that before but as per guide showed to stack DoT i did that instead ;D

[obtuse quest]

Melee implicits are normally adaptive flat, so check for the other inplicits, i know there’s an axe that provides necrotic pen

[pearl snow]

Kzb needs another set of hands out here

[obtuse quest]

Yes.
Yes, you can only dodge hits, not dots

[obtuse quest]

Dot means your damage focus would be on stuff like torment or infernal shade’s dot aura, so it depends on what you wana focus on

[crisp ridge]

makes sense, easily grabbed both

[obtuse quest]

Should have been here before 1.2 where the channel is quiet as heck

[crisp ridge]

miss the flame wraith talk tho 😂

[pearl snow]

Lol I bet, I took a peak periodically after I quit S1

[crisp ridge]

flame wraith was my 1st build i ran and will always cherish it

[obtuse quest]

Wraithlord overshadowed flame wraiths F

[crisp ridge]

didnt abberants call get gutted before wraithlord even existed?

[main cypress]

should i focus on % leech or life on hit?

[crisp ridge]

depends what ur build is doing

[obtuse quest]

The gut isn’t that hard hitting

[main cypress]

was doing a poison aura reaperform but that fail through so going more crit based

[obtuse quest]

Leech. Health on hit is flat and kindaaa hard to scale

[crisp ridge]

thats fair, i generally dont repeat builds so i had m fun with flame wraith

[obtuse quest]

But yeah once wraithlord came up there wasn’t a real reason to play it

[crisp ridge]

truthfully, im yet to even play a wraithlord

maybe ill swap to it for uber, idk.

wouldve played it this cycle alrdy if it didnt take me till lvl 92 to get my first helm lmao

[haughty token]

Does anyone have a build based on hellfire explosion ? I don't know how to get tankier, as you can't use profane veil cause you need to be able to cast

[obtuse quest]

What is hellfire explosion

[haughty token]

Mmmh maybe it is not the right name.
It is the dot that can be put on up to 4 target that deals fire damage.
It has a nose where it exploded in AOE when it expires.
The warlock fissure has a nose making where it shortens the remaining cool down of hellfire dot, making it procs the explosion instantly

[obtuse quest]

You mean infernal shade?

[haughty token]

Infernal shade right

Mb

[stable mesa]

So do Dread Shade's stack their buff?

[obtuse quest]

No.

[obtuse quest]

Get more health/ward/defenses in general.

Veil is your panic button.

[haughty token]

Yup, that seems to be it

I still am considering the witchfire build cause it is so simple just fissure into veil

[stable mesa]

Cheers. And the only base cold minions the Necro gets are Mages and Golems?

and the skelly archers

[obtuse quest]

Yup.

Otherwise you gotta feed them flat cold some other way (Which doesn't give them chance to freeze)

[stable mesa]

Mostly looking at a Skeleton mage x Cold Golem build

[crisp ridge]

love to see it

[ashen tree]

Does armor affect any type of damage

[obtuse quest]

Yes. 100% eff against physical 70% eff against everything else

[ashen tree]

Thanks

Don't mind just asking tooltip questions

I'm just at work and can't play 😭

[slender haven]

What minion / summoner build would you recommend for a first time player? Trying to get as far as I can with one character.

[obtuse quest]

For necro: Any single big minion build.

Like wraithlord or archmage skeletal mage

[mild wedge]

any tips to sustaining self poison?

is leech or low life better?

[obtuse quest]

Don't self poison /s

Overcap poison res, get DoT leech, get more leech.

[crisp ridge]

how big is csa? like if non-hc is ~95% fine?

or do u rly want that 100%

[obtuse quest]

100% Avoid or 100% reduced damage taken.

[crisp ridge]

avoid

[obtuse quest]

You don't want to be one shot out of thinair.

[obtuse quest]

As in you need either at cap.

[crisp ridge]

ahh yep

[mild wedge]

are there any items that can use the overcapped res @obtuse quest i know salt thw wounds+poison conversion cheese.

[obtuse quest]

If you don't plan to cap, reduced is better

[obtuse quest]

No

Overcapped poison doesn't do anything other than null potent

[mild wedge]

any way to turn int into life based defenses?

[obtuse quest]

No

[obsidian radish]

Niche question but anyone doing non-moving wraithlord and arena echoes?

[slender haven]

Does it require snap shotting to be successful?

[obtuse quest]

No. No snap shot needed for 500c.

[obsidian radish]

Wraithlord is busted compared to BM companions

[north comet]

Any torment warlocks out here? I'm really unhappy with the build and find it hard to scale :/

[crisp ridge]

what corr? should do well for awhile

[north comet]

191 sadly

700 necro res, 300 crit multi

[crisp ridge]

it can easily go higher

ur stacking crit on torment?

[north comet]

u mean as a stat? yeah

[obtuse quest]

Multi is a bit low

[red harness]

yes

[obtuse quest]

Since it ignores the default 200.

[north comet]

My only crit multi gear tbf

I got base 2k5 ward and goes up to 3k5 when damaging, seems low imho - 1k4 hp

[crisp ridge]

seems like ur just missing a lot of gear then tbh

[north comet]

hmm probably, I got some of the first uniques, but farming at 200 corru can be rippy on bosses/champs

[crisp ridge]

shouldnt rly be struggling at 200, unless ur affixs/defences are under. also dont underestimate blessings

[north comet]

actually speaking of blessing, in reigh of dragons, % all res or necro dmg? maxroll guide says 20% all res, but found it weird

[obtuse quest]

all res. You use blessings to cover defenses.

[crisp ridge]

scales ur dmg coz of uncapped, and depends on how ur other resistances are going

[marble palm]

20% all res is insanely good value

[obsidian radish]

Never played warlock, how does uncap res scale dmg?

[crisp ridge]

helmet

[crisp ridge]

well, and other stuff tbh

[marble palm]

Read you abilities and gear guys

[crisp ridge]

helmet is not dmg i should clarify

[rough peak]

is harvest the only melee skill

prolly a bad worded question

uhh

[marble palm]

On Acolyte it is

[rough peak]

what about warlock

[marble palm]

Unless you count Reaper Form

Warlock is Acolyte

[rough peak]

type shit

thanks

[obtuse quest]

Harvest is the only melee.

[stiff summit]

Harvest is like AoD it sucks

[coarse gyro]

How does mana efficiency work? like with the idol that says 14% mana efficiency with Ghostflame

[obtuse quest]

1 mana is instead 1.14 mana for that skill.

[coarse gyro]

so essentially it costs less right?

[obtuse quest]

ye

[coarse gyro]

Thanks!

[chrome mason]

@obtuse quest did you see what i dropped yday

[obtuse quest]

3lp mad ladle?

[chrome mason]

yessir

[wise basalt]

Does +10 minion spell damage affect wraithlord?

[obtuse quest]

Good shit

[obtuse quest]

Yes, his attack is a spell

[chrome mason]

Now just need to find a good base to slam into it

[crisp ridge]

finding exalts is the hardest part of the gamengl

[wise basalt]

Nice!!!

[chrome mason]

New runes made it muuuuch better though

[crisp ridge]

yea but slam change makes u rly want them higher lp's

[obtuse quest]

To be fair, his helm does technically tell you this

[crisp ridge]

man, doing the rune prison tower, my witchfire can 100-0 them atm

im hella impressed with it

[rough peak]

i have this rune, not sure if i should save it or use it now

i have a few unique pieces of equipment already

[crisp ridge]

is there an item u want? send it

[rough peak]

idk what i want 😭

[crisp ridge]

then save it till u do

[spiral grove]

i mean if you wanna chase some unique then go for it

[red harness]

this gamba shit is making me ill

[rough peak]

also is this a HUGE amount of armor or na, idk the stats of this yet

because im not using minions at all

i just use it for the illusory tree

[obtuse quest]

Decent, but normally you have other ways

[glossy willow]

Guys , if my champion affix is + to chthonic fissue . Can my pref roll + to chothonic fissue anymore?

[crisp ridge]

is thete a champ roll for +fissure?

[glossy willow]

Yea

[crisp ridge]

whats it on?

[glossy willow]

Body armour

[obtuse quest]

Do you mean sealed affix?

Champion affix and sealed affix is different.

[rough peak]

im sick to my stomach

[glossy willow]

Not sealed. Its champion seal affix

I mean it sealed but its champion

[crisp ridge]

can u send pic

[glossy willow]

Not online home

[obtuse quest]

I'm looking at the champion affix list right now.

[red harness]

do u need exalted with 4 affix for legendary crafting

[obtuse quest]

I don't see one that specifically boosts fissures.

[obtuse quest]

Yes.

[crisp ridge]

yes

[obtuse quest]

The affixes can be in any tier.

[crisp ridge]

sealed does not count fir the 4 fyi

[obtuse quest]

Wait.

[glossy willow]

Weird let me check after i got home

[obtuse quest]

There isn't even a champion affix for body armour.

[hoary dirge]

Is there any midgame build for the crit lich infernal shade that dr3ad made?

im kinda new 😭

[obtuse quest]

I don't think so?

[chrome mason]

Another 100~ ascendance no red ring 😔 ✌️

[crisp ridge]

hey kzb, woudl u happen to know if the 12% inc dmg on this affects witchfire?

[hoary dirge]

all i see is the uber endgame version

[mild wedge]

If i'm going for neutral dot affixes

[hoary dirge]

so is it possible to play it on a budget

[mild wedge]

what do i use as second prefix?

[hoary dirge]

or na?

[chrome mason]

Yes its a global multi

[obtuse quest]

It's generic, so yes.

[red harness]

so I gotta pray to rngesus for the right affix to transfer over to legendary item?

[obtuse quest]

Whatever youe damage type is.

[crisp ridge]

kewl, wanted to make sure

[obtuse quest]

Yes, but at T2 dungeon or higher you can pick one affix that always transfers over.