📚┃off-topic

[ebon meadow]

i wish io can bend time xdd

[jade jackal]

ill go in, but blind

after a very long self inflicted pause from PoE2

[neon sigil]

Play druid next league when it's less popular

[junior oyster]

Aww

Not sure what this is supposed to be but I hope it's worth a little

[desert jasper]

Oh hey, it's me
your brother

[fierce moth]

A very cool teaser :)

emmmm but then I need to figure out what's outside this church 🤔 Tricky.

[fierce moth]

What a good night is. Party with friends in a ktv

(I dislike ktv though)

[twilit mountain]

Looks about half a div per card. Not bad.

[junior oyster]

Nah more like 60c lol

Per card

[twilit mountain]

Eh, little under half then. Still decent.

[junior oyster]

I mean definitely lol

Earlier I had 2 valdos drop though

Btw would you happen to know the most optimal strongbox strat? Not including containment because I'm currently doing t16s

Speaking of scarabs

[twilit mountain]

Probably 3x Ambush, 1x reopen, and 1x discernment in a vaal temple if I had to guess.

[junior oyster]

Oh nah not doing vaal temple but I guess that's the same I have lol

The reopen one is nice for sure but I guess the potency one is as bad as I thought

[twilit mountain]

If you're willing to suffer buying vaal temples they're really good

And yes potency is pretty bad in my experience.

[junior oyster]

Also I guess the map drops don't affect boxes?

Scryed defiled onto jungle valley but I'm not sure if boxes affect the natural drops

[warped wren]

they do

it's part of what makes boxes so good

the mobs inside them are counted as natural mobs

[junior oyster]

Ok good to know I'm not wasting my time on JV

Nice whatever this is

Each seem to sell for around 50c according to awakened

I'm guessing in shop it's around 90c

[twilit mountain]

Yeah way higher, reflecting mist is one of the biggest crafting investments

[junior oyster]

Sheesh

[twilit mountain]

Ah is yours reading the uh, whisper instead of the market?

[desert jasper]

awakened can't pull info from the currency trade
it'll look that "okay that's what's it for whisper trade"

[twilit mountain]

It can, but it's an hour behind

[desert jasper]

🤔 Weird that there's such a large price difference then

[twilit mountain]

Fane's might not be set to read it properly, also sometimes it just... won't

[warped wren]

do not trust Awakened Trade for Faustus-tradeable items

[junior oyster]

I doubt it lol. Whenever I check an equipment or something it sends me to async

[warped wren]

it's ok for regular gear / stuff that does not go on Faustus

[twilit mountain]

I double check cards via poe.ninja

[junior oyster]

I always double check invitations div/chaos lol

Chaos is cheaper but is more likely to sell I think

[twilit mountain]

Generally yeah, people buying things for divs like that are usually doing it in bulk which means you kinda have to wait until someone doing that shows up, while selling for chaos usually hits a much wider group of people

[junior oyster]

Those selling bulk I'm guessing just go straight for boss huh

And maven

[twilit mountain]

Yeah. They don't bother with extra maps, they gamble straight up by buying invites and killing as many as possible in as short a time frame as they can. It's a rich people thing.

[neon sigil]

what are you gonna play this coming league?

[twilit mountain]

I'm not, you think I got 120ish gigs to spare on something I probably won't play longer than a week?

[junior oyster]

Damn mappers dropped something nice

At first I was like eh it's probably nothing great

[desert jasper]

Are those worth something? 🤔

[warped wren]

1.4d iirc

[junior oyster]

1.2d apparently

[warped wren]

ah 1.2

[junior oyster]

Again I'm using awakened

[warped wren]

mappers are a solid investment if you can afford em

[junior oyster]

So it could be more or less

Sheesh these guys need to calm down

They making more than me

I know it's late in the league but I hope I can still sell it for a couple of divs lol

Probably not though

[desert jasper]

That looks very good

[twilit mountain]

They do that lmao

[warped wren]

problem with rare gear is the tree

[junior oyster]

I just need a good way to sustain gold tbf

[warped wren]

though that's a good buckler

[junior oyster]

Doesn't help that there are only like 2 people selling something similar lol

[warped wren]

those are fully crafted bucklers listed

cap out your chance to block and suppress in the filter and check

[junior oyster]

I have no idea how to do that lol

[twilit mountain]

You can still sell high end ES gear easily for some reason despite being the easiest gear in the game to craft

[warped wren]

[warped wren]

just click on the max tab for those stats, it'll auto populate

[junior oyster]

Like this?

[warped wren]

yes

[junior oyster]

I still see the same two

[desert jasper]

I think I have a few of those too actually

oh nvm
I've 1 of those
and then 9 of the inscribed ulti one

[neon sigil]

oh no. Well thats fair.
Hope you have fun whatever you do.

[junior oyster]

Not what I want but I guess still worth taking

If only I got something like this earlier in the league

Game is trolling me lol

[fierce moth]

It looks pretty awesome 💯

[jade jackal]

yet not too practical lol

[twilit mountain]

Average roguelike item:

[jade jackal]

The sword of blessing but not stabbing or slicing in any useful way

[junior oyster]

The sword of venom

Actually no

Raise your head, Wabisuke

[jade jackal]

@fierce moth took out some of my Diablo artbooks

I think youll really like the art in them, its astonoshingly good

[jade jackal]

@eternal wasp you are directly screwing servers by posting this stuff in them

[twilit mountain]

I'll be the one to do it

<@&1161418687471956101>

[jade jackal]

yeah, that too

[vagrant topaz]

@eternal wasp please don't post stuff like this
It's both NSFW and against #rules 6

[abstract karma]

ouch, hadnt time even notice it these past days

[warped wren]

Can't wait for Overwhelmingly Negative

[stone anvil]

it will be more negative bcs youtubers and snowball effect

[sand wigeon]

because the game is mostly a negative experience right now, yes

[stone anvil]

this is how it looks like while searching on yt 😭

[warped wren]

tbf I think all those videos are shit.

I would pay more attention to the contents of my toilet bowl than to Ziz / Aaron / Rhykker's opinions

[stone anvil]

its true but newbies will watch these videos

[gilded elm]

Good luck to EHG trying to sell anything new on a Steam page that says "Mostly Negative"

[fierce moth]

😂
I guess it's why Judd is offline recently

I didn't watch these videos personally because I can guess what's going on in these videos

26% now... 😂

[fierce moth]

How much the rate of negative reviews will bring overwhelmingly negative?

[fierce moth]

Appreciated. But... How to take?

[warped wren]

found this from a 2014 article

[stone anvil]

kirra 😭 😭

[warped wren]

idk how true / if changed

[gilded elm]

That should still be accurate.

I can at least confirm that's accurate for everything from Overwhelmingly Positive to Mixed, so I assume the rest of it is accurate too.

[desert jasper]

I slept way too long today

[fierce moth]

How long?

5h + 2h, common day for me

[fierce moth]

wait, Kira?

I need to take a look

[desert jasper]

total of 10h

It wasn't very good quality sleep though
and I woke up in the middle because sensor alerting about low bloodsugar so had to check it and it was actually low so I had to eat stuff

[distant mica]

@shell lynx my ubermap

[shell lynx]

And these are all ubers you did?

[distant mica]

yep either solo or carrying someone

[shell lynx]

Oh lol what the

Let me find my latest screenshot which is not even showing the full map xD

Oh there it is

[fierce moth]

EHG is in a big trouble, well Underwood is under the same case. Fantastic tv series

[shell lynx]

@distant mica

[distant mica]

damnnnnnnnnn

[shell lynx]

Now this map is nearly twice as big

[distant mica]

i still got 22x eyes to use 🙁

[shell lynx]

22x eyes sounds like 22x THE ALTAR OF OBLIVION... cutscene XD

Now you know why i despise this fight

[distant mica]

lmao

[shell lynx]

I sometimes wonder how I managed to do that many runs without going insane

[distant mica]

haha if i do all 22x eyes that will give me another like 30 ubers

[shell lynx]

Road to hell through broken glass, sounds fun

On the other side it's bonk bonk and uber dead

[austere granite]

okey xD

[fierce moth]

Done the house of cards S4

S5, go

[shell lynx]

Isn't it S5 when Kevin gets the boot? Or is it 6, I don't remember

[fierce moth]

The sketch for 🍁 is here after I delayed it for 3 days :)

[junior oyster]

@warped wren hey if you don't mind me asking is it maybe worth removing the shrine nodes? They can be good I admit (especially the zoom zoom one) but I rarely see covetous shrines. I'm thinking of taking map nodes instead for higher chance to see aboms.

[junior oyster]

Oh well got rid of it anyway

If it turns out to be bad then I'll change it back

[desert jasper]

Ding, lvl 98
just... 2 more I guess

[silent steeple]

I agree that theres a good portion of ppl who have youtubers as their source of info but theres also a good number of ppl who took the news from here and are upset

Its like someone pointed out earlier. Its the negative experience thats leading to this

[warped wren]

Shrines spawn natural mob packs, which have a higher chance to drop natural mob drops like maps / t17s

So would recommend keeping them in

You can drop the one point for covetous shrine, it's whatever

They're also free power and speed which is always handy

[junior oyster]

I see

I'll have to remove the map nodes then

[desert jasper]

I kinda hate drowning orbs...

[junior oyster]

I kinda hate when shrines give me rarity but I gotta take what I gotta take

[desert jasper]

Ah
I just remembered that ralakesh boots have cb imunity
And I've been wearing a jewel with that all this time

[junior oyster]

Useless mappers

[desert jasper]

Yeah, they didn't even bring you 2 magebloods + 5locks

[twilit mountain]

AGH

[desert jasper]

Enjoy the snow

[twilit mountain]

I will not. I was honestly hoping we'd somehow have a year without it

[desert jasper]

I love snow

[silent steeple]

Have any of u here been following the reddit mod drama?

[desert jasper]

no

[silent steeple]

Man! Im kinda interested to know how it turned out but I also dont wanna be the guy who googled for reddit drama

As it is my feeds are filled with these kinda gossip articles cuz I keeping looking up stuff like this

[desert jasper]

like not even sure what reddit mod drama

[silent steeple]

It was about some mod on some art subreddit who went on a powertrip and deleted some guy's posts and also reported him

As u can imagine the drama started with the backlash

Last i read about it he apparently kicked out all the mods including himself

[desert jasper]

Oh right, that thing
because he shared how to print it and "you can't say the word print here ree"

But not surprised about a reddit mod powertripping
did you know the entire site has some mods that are mods basically everywhere? and they're not even employed by reddit

[fierce moth]

The result? r/art is closed permanently now

[silent steeple]

Wait permanently?

Wow xD

[desert jasper]

Well reddit closes subreddits that don't have any moderation

[silent steeple]

Yeah but I'd imagine it would be until they find mods

[fierce moth]

Oh no. They change mods

hhhhhhhh funny comment

[silent steeple]

If my understanding of it was clear, ppl who right scripts for certain bots are brought in as mods. So i can see why one mod can be seen everywhere else

[stone anvil]

it's same mod but acting like a different mod

[desert jasper]

The thing is, it's obvious in some places and saying something that a mod doesn't like will get you permabanned in like 600+ subreddits because of that

[stone anvil]

honestly, it's better to f these mods and leave the server or sub but since they can remove your messages, people will just say "ok dude, chill dude"

[silent steeple]

See if theres any place where a person can act out their pettiness to that extent? Its reddit xD

[stone anvil]

its same for some discord servers too

people are just talking about reddit now bcs moist's video

[silent steeple]

Not on official servers tho. Or at least I haven't come across any official discord servers where mods went on powertrip

[desert jasper]

Also reddit has a massive bot problem
and the only reason they even got as big is because they botted so hard

which they've even admitted that they botted users to get investors because "oh they've that large user base"

[silent steeple]

Makes sense why they would look for mods who can write scripts for bots

[fierce moth]

Teaser 2. I can't wait to set it as my pc wallpaper (yes, I used that as my wallpaper already, though I didn't finish it)

[stone anvil]

YOU SHOULD FINISH IT!!!

[fierce moth]

👀 I spent 1h to test where should my focus on to create field of depth on the right place

Render and render again is time-consuming

Back to 2021, I just knew "use yellow light at night"

[fierce moth]

Quick render with current level:

The power of aesthetic

[stone anvil]

the pillows look good

[fierce moth]

Nugget pillows, yes

[stone anvil]

this one is great

and so many arts on the walls

art inside of art

[fierce moth]

https://www.behance.net/gallery/128248953/Voxel-Art-Z-cubes
Yes, spotlight their artworks in my artworks is the core

[stone anvil]

only wood colors ❤️

[fierce moth]

The transition of sky colours are pretty cool

[jade jackal]

Decent choice of a two tone color

[distant mica]

Sat in yard with nothing to do

[wheat gulch]

what's going on here

[distant mica]

Nothing it's dead haja

[warped wren]

mappers OP

[desert jasper]

ez 5 div

[junior oyster]

Thought that was ritual lol

I had one of those from ritual

Very easy 5d

[desert jasper]

I've found 2 of them
One when they were only 2div
and then one yesterday

[junior oyster]

I found only one but I gave up on ritual

It's kinda boring and I'd rather do boxes

[desert jasper]

I've both going on currently
and harbies too
though ritual isn't actually very good for experience

I was going to grind more maps
But seems like Argus is in the first room of uber lab today so gonna do that part of the challenge...
100 argus

Very exciting, I know

[junior oyster]

Uber lab as in eternal right?

[desert jasper]

Yes

I already bought like 80 offerings the other day to prepare for this
and was like "Okay, I'll either go for lvl 100 or 100 argus kills depending if the argus is in first or 2nd room before I get to 100"

Guess i should put on some music for this

[twilit mountain]

You'd need to pay me quite a bit to get me to run 100 Argus kills. Even if hitting level 100 would take longer at least that has me doing something

[desert jasper]

at 38 already

Annoying part is that if you're too fast at killing argus and teleporting out
and try going to lab again you'll get message

So you'll need to ctrl click to open new instance.. or wait just a little bit

[desert jasper]

100 argus done

Took about hour & half
If I see lab again within a month it'll be too soon

Now just 50 more explicit mods on invitations and 13450 quantity on maps and I'm at 36 challenges

[fierce moth]

Vuji suggested me to add a sign at the middle so I added that.

(The 2nd R don't draw well)

Remind me of maybe I can try to hand drawing different fonts 🤔

Let me follow this prototype to draw A-Z

(To-do thing +1)

[desert jasper]

Man, I'm actually glad I went for the Argus kills instead of lvl 100
I've lost 40% at lvl 98

[real charm]

As RF, the level 100 came naturally

[stone anvil]

life is good

[stone anvil]

nub is losing it

they inspired the art from him 🤣

[desert jasper]

I've never even grinded until lvl 98 before

[stone anvil]

you got this

If you made 98, you can also make 99 and 100

[desert jasper]

Nah, no need to go for lvl 100
I just need 45 more mdos on invitations
and like 11400 quantity on maps which should be relatively... fast

But yes, you're right
I could make it to 100
But I'm also stopping the league when I hit the 36 challenges

[stone anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDziZNrL2s

nice

but it says 40 challenges

[desert jasper]

Not interested in 40

[stone anvil]

fair

[fierce moth]

@obtuse rune I guess your discord is exploded by messages in this server because the news is flaming trust from players

Check out modmail please :)
Have a good breakfast.

Oh wait. Forget something...

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[radiant helm]

@jovial bane So

The thing is, people look at that shit

and just decide not to buy it

lol

[jovial bane]

I don't disagree, but I think it works with something like Age of Mythology. With retold you have an option to buy the base game or with two DLCs

With Paradox or Total Warhammer flood of DLCs. Well that would not fly.

[silent steeple]

Lets take cities skylines for example

On one hand, their dlcs span over a decade so clearly they were trying to keep the game alive

But on other hand, 62 dlcs man

They could have added all the music packs in one and deco packs in one and have 14 expansions...which makes sense for a decade old game

[jovial bane]

Total Warhammer has like 30 dlcs ? But it kind of makes sense, because it's a trilogy with DLCs carrying over

[stone anvil]

how much you would pay for dlc If its good

bcs If its bad, you wont buy it anyways

[silent steeple]

Cant say how much but if its the same price as base game, then no

[stone anvil]

let's say 15$ and seasons are over 5 months

[jovial bane]

unless it's factorio I guess

DLC pretty much doubles the size of the game

[silent steeple]

U cant(or shouldn't) look at it like that tho. Its dlc, literal downloadable content for a game u already bought. It has additions to the game but its not a new game itself. I hope im making sense

[stone anvil]

no you are making sense but they will sell dlc

this is what they said

[jovial bane]

It very much depends on the price, but generally speaking above ~28$ I'm sceptical

[desert jasper]

2nd black knight of the league

[silent steeple]

They can say and do as they like, its a free market. But as a consumer and more importantly as a gamer, I wouldn't entertain certain practises, u know what i mean

[desert jasper]

EZ

[jovial bane]

By sceptical I mean, I start to doubt whether it's worth the value. But some DLCs are worth that much. Factorio Space Age, Blood & Wine or War of the Chosen come to mind

[stone anvil]

I played tw3 and I agree for blood & wine

If they make good season and If they are sure about it, they can sell it higher

so when they release the price, it will actually show the quality of dlc If they are not greedy

[jovial bane]

tbh total warhammer 3 was really a big DLC if you think about it. Do I regret buying a 60$ "dlc" ? absolutely not

[stone anvil]

is that bundle?

bcs there are many dlcs like 3$ - 4$

[jovial bane]

Not exactly, warhammer total war is a bit of a special case.
The model was, the previous game with DLCs carries over to a new game after they add the combined map in an update.

So the third game really was DLC with more than usual factions, map expansion and addtional campaign nobody cares about

[silent steeple]

I don't remember cuz its been so long but blood and wine was somewhere around 20$, no? Which is wayyyyy more than worth cuz it was basically whole new game. It had a whole new map, monsters, storyline, abilities added which changed combat. All this for a dlc price

[stone anvil]

also this statement in the roadmap is very interesting

a fully alternate playable class built on systems that work differently from anything else in the game

[silent steeple]

Also, Witcher 3 GOTY edition, IIRC, gave both dlcs for free if u bought the base game

[stone anvil]

iirc the game and dlcs had dropped to 9$ when it was covid

tw3 is def amazing game

[silent steeple]

Oh yeah now u can buy that game for literal price of peanuts

[stone anvil]

they are cooking for tw4

so they need every bucks from highest to lowest

[silent steeple]

Idk. As a fan of W2 and W3, i was kinda hoping that story ended there

[stone anvil]

as fan of tw3 wish they were making remake of tw1 and tw2 😭

[jovial bane]

they are making W1 remake

[stone anvil]

really

[silent steeple]

Now thats something i can get behind

[jovial bane]

but they aim at 2029-2030 according to the investors meetup

[silent steeple]

God damn it

[jovial bane]

very rough, and probably not exactly realistic

[silent steeple]

Why are there 5 and 6. Are they trying to turn this into Assassin's creed 😂

[jovial bane]

They've announced W4 starts Ciri trilogy

[silent steeple]

Wow

Well as long as they stay true their studio philosophy I'll definitely support them

[stone anvil]

https://youtu.be/laGMo__OjNI?si=W9qOMFcrKxDacrFs in the video, youtuber claiming- they will start to use UE5 instead their own engine so this will make things faster instead waiting 7-8 years for games

I want TW4!!!

[fierce moth]

It's my favorite snack now.

Fried beans in meat floss & black garlic & roasted garlic flavour.

Watching house of cards with that. It's bean night.

[stone anvil]

it looks like little onions

[obtuse rune]

oooooooh. That could be a nice snack

[fierce moth]

Not only nice, but also...Addicting

[obtuse rune]

Make sure to eat other food time to time now Kirra 😆

I was like that with Veggie straws years ago

[desert jasper]

Ah, I should cook soon actually

[fierce moth]

what Veggie straws is?

[jade jackal]

Uhhh

I was just talking to the creator on stream yesterday

Kirra are you following me

[jovial bane]

oh I had something similar, they are pretty good

[jade jackal]

Oh wait visual discord bug. Disregard

[desert jasper]

not disregarding

[fierce moth]

👀 I just ate some French fries in McDonald's as dinner (of course, not only fries but also burger and a bbq chicken wing and drum)

[obtuse rune]

Oh nice! I know McDonald's and other places are very different around the world too, I could imagine it being kind of good

[desert jasper]

The portions here are smaller than in the states
But apparently the quality is better
I wouldn't know, I think mcdonalds is pretty... bad honestly

[obtuse rune]

Yeah, I think the gap of quality when it comes to certain food is quite...large

[desert jasper]

juicy sale

[twilit mountain]

I hate you

[desert jasper]

why must you hurt me so

[stone anvil]

I hate you now give me your divines 🤣

[desert jasper]

I did also get awakened ele attack support from maven witness map so that was easy 1div

[warped wren]

What'd you sell

[desert jasper]

Svalinn
that dropped from 2nd black knight of the league

[warped wren]

Holy

Lucky

[twilit mountain]

That be why I said that :<

[desert jasper]

It's not like I do anything with my almost 300divs tbh

[desert jasper]

Like I might just buy a bunch of void keys at the end and open those

[stone anvil]

make giveaway like guys on reddit xD

[twilit mountain]

You could donate 200some to me for a MB /s

[desert jasper]

no

[desert jasper]

You know what, sure
After I'm done with the league

It's not like it'll benefit me in standard

Ah, just a bit under 9900 quant left to grind

and 35 mods on invitations

[desert jasper]

Something like this? :^)

[twilit mountain]

.>

[desert jasper]

It's yours, friendo
if you want it

[fierce moth]

what are you want to say?

[abstract karma]

skip cyberpunk sequel which will be developed for 10 years anyway, trash away witcher multiplayer and make witcher 1 remake in after witcher 4 which will be to be honest quite on edge with quality because Ciri as main char why not but goal with killing "gods" is just too much overtuned story already.. W3 should have been just end

They could make another franchises or spin-off of any characters if they wanted stay in witcher universe

[silent steeple]

See thats what I meant too

Using the witcher title and making it sound like its the continuation to the trilogy is something im unsure about

[twilit mountain]

Why? The books do the same thing?

[silent steeple]

Yes but those are the books. I feel like witcher 3 was perfect ending to the adventures of geralt in video game space. Even before dlc content

[twilit mountain]

....Riiiight? And that's... why they're not following Geralt anymore. Much like the books stop following Geralt and are still the same series and world.

[fierce moth]

How long will corresponding suggestions take to be delivered to the corresponding devs and be planed in the schdule if they're agreed by most EHG members?

[silent steeple]

Now if u wanna tell the stories of adventures of ciri, by all means. But it should have been her own story, not continuation of geralt, u know what i mean

[twilit mountain]

But. It is her own story

Not a continuation of Geralt

I don't understand

[silent steeple]

Witcher 4 doesnt make it sound like that. Thats what Im saying

Witcher 4 sounds like continuation of witcher 3

[twilit mountain]

That's called preconceived notions. That's on you.

Yeah. It is. Because it's the same series. The same world. The same setting.

What do you want it to be? The Grand Adventure Of Ciri Who Is Definitely Not Related To The Series Called The Witcher Despite Being A Central Character And Trained As A Witcher?

[real charm]

hello fellas

[desert jasper]

So Deias, do you want that belt?

[silent steeple]

Perhaps this will help u better understand what im saying. Warhammer space marine. Same universe but different game than warhammer inquisitor. No one is connecting two of these games even tho they're from same universe. Its 2 different games.
Also idk what is it I said that ticked u off to the point of being this sarcastic but I was just sharing my opinion. U don't have to agree with it but u also dont have to be bothered by it 😂

[twilit mountain]

Warhammer Space Marine 2 follows entirely different characters despite being a sequel.

[silent steeple]

I wasnt even talking about space marine 2

[twilit mountain]

Assassin's Creed has followed several different characters despite being the same series

Should I use Prince of Persia as an example?

[silent steeple]

Thats another reason why I said earlier "if they're planning on making this series like assassin's creed" which means I didn't agree with that either

Anyway, its a public forum. People share opinions. Try not to get bothered so much by them. Chill out

[twilit mountain]

Or how about Borderlands? Final Fantasy? Guild Wars? Yakuza/Like A Dragon? The Elder Scrolls? Baldur's Gate? BioShock? Dishonored? Fallout? Resident Evil?

[twilit mountain]

Yes and some opinions are stupid.

[silent steeple]

My god someone's really in a mood today

Perhaps take a walk

[twilit mountain]

And I mean, yes. I gotta figure out a use for it.

[desert jasper]

Aight, I'm heading out for a while after this map so just send me a whisper
the character is MasokistiMake

[obtuse rune]

There is no telling. Some suggestions or feedback stuff, could be something simple or rather something that might take time so I don't have a define response for you other than: It may vary because of various factors

[desert jasper]

Also dear god
i've lost 60% exp already this lvl
i'd be at 65% without those deaths

[twilit mountain]

Ouch...

[desert jasper]

Turns out
Running a map with -40% to block and no regen isn't a good idea

I died 3 times in that map and then just said yeah nah not doing this

[twilit mountain]

LMAO yeah when your main thing is blocking and regen that doesn't go well

[desert jasper]

I'll admit I didn't actually properly look at the map until after that 3rd death

"What in tarnation"

[fierce moth]

unknown things are always here, it's why confirm a date for a new cycle is a hard thing?

[desert jasper]

Because it's not set in stone
They are still working on it

They could say "It's on January 10th" and then it's not ready and they'll have to push it back

people get mad

even more mad than they already are

[fierce moth]

yes it's why lots of players shouted out why Judd turn on his words

[desert jasper]

And they've also never said it this early when the next season starts
December just started
for all we know the next league could be on like
28rd of January
Would be way too early to announce it

They'll probably announce it after new years & the holidays are over

[fierce moth]

wait. Why too early to announce the date is a bad thing (let's assume no accidents)?

[desert jasper]

...

Because they aren't done with the content

And you shouldn't assume "no accidents"

[stone anvil]

https://youtu.be/1O0gE2O0LV8?si=d_g-gXTKGi7FVZ-T lets watch this and have fun

[desert jasper]

Anyway, I need to get some fresh air

[fierce moth]

...

[desert jasper]

Like let's say their coders suddenly all get sick

[fierce moth]

Why I shouldn't assume no accidents... 😅

[desert jasper]

Because real life isn't ideal things
Accidents happen
people get sick
or things don't turn out the way you want

Remember how they made some change that wasn't related to fireball at all
and pushed it live
and it somehow turned to purple cubes

[silent steeple]

Whats that about(dnt wanna open another tab just yet)

[fierce moth]

Ohhhhh codes work like mastertingus's animation sometimes? Make sense.

They call bugs

[desert jasper]

Also if something goes wrong when applying graphics to the game that's something that also needs solving.

Like sure, the artist can make their part without issues
but applying it is a different thing.

[fierce moth]

Change an angle. Which part in this process is the most time-consuming?

From a player asked a suggestion to this suggestion become a in-game feature in a different way or as same as what player asked

[stone anvil]

people spending 1000$ on raw steak

and dancing

[silent steeple]

Makes sense it would be raw..what if they realised 1000$ on a steak is too much while its being cooked

[gilded elm]

SM2 follows the same main character with a storyline that is a continuation of the previous game, leading to the resolution of plot points previously left unresolved by the end of the first game. Not that I disagree with the point you're trying to make, just being clear :P

[silent steeple]

As long as we're clearing things up, I wasnt even talking about SM2 tho. I was talking about SM1 and how its different than inquisitor even tho they're from same universe, franchise etc..
I didnt even say I dont want a ciri game. I meant it should have been its own stand alone game under witcher title

But i didnt bother expanding on it cuz one can tell when someone's trying to have a civil dialogue one is passionate about and when someone's just out here looking for fights 😂

[gilded elm]

I don't think Geralt should have a monopoly on the mainline "Witcher" game franchise tbh. I think it's fine that Ciri is the main character of a sequel.

[silent steeple]

I never said he should tho

[gilded elm]

It's risky to introduce a different main character to an established series, but it can be done correctly too.

[silent steeple]

Exactly and cdpr being cdpr, they could have pulled it off. Or should have at least tried

I should say, all this is based on me seeing the title and the "IV" attached to it

[gilded elm]

Yeah but calling it Witcher 4 seems okay too, that's a gamble CDPR is taking with the franchise. I think CDPR has more to gain from Witcher 4 being a good game than they have to lose from it being a bad game.

[silent steeple]

Maybe it'll be different when it comes out or maybe the story will have elements that'll connect to previous titles in a much deeper, needed way

[gilded elm]

As long as they live up to the expectations of a sequel, it's a potentially good decision on their part to call it Witcher 4. I don't think there's anything inherently disqualifying about Ciri being the main character of a game titled "Witcher 4" as long as the game lives up to the core expectations of a game from the franchise.

If they pulled a Paradox and did a Bloodlines 2 thing, then yeah. That would be bad.

[silent steeple]

Well Im just hoping that they'll stay true their studio philosophy

[gilded elm]

Philosophy is a broad term and maybe I missed the relevant context, but what philosophy do you mean specifically?

[silent steeple]

Okay I wanna be very careful here cuz i don't want ppl to come after me with pitchforks

Take W2 and W3 and u can see how they evolved

Their philosophy of telling a story through a game remained the same

But they got better

[jovial bane]

luckily bloodline 2 was in such development hell everybody should have seen the disaster coming

[silent steeple]

But u dont see that in Cyberpunk

[jovial bane]

So for now Witcher 4 should do bit better

[jovial bane]

actually, we did

there were rumors about the game being just in alpha and not in playable state

then multiple delays

[gilded elm]

From what I gather, The Chinese Room didn't even want to call the game "Bloodlines" because that name carries such monumental expectations that Bloodlines 2 would never live up to.

[jovial bane]

not wrong

[gilded elm]

But Paradox Interactive execs thought better, I guess.

[silent steeple]

No no, I meant u don't see that story telling development in cyberpunk as one can see it in W3 from W2. The continuity of msg got mixed up there 😂

[jovial bane]

I mean some grognars are upset that Baldur's Gate 3 has the 3 attached

[desert jasper]

<@&1161418687471956101> linking his own live stream again

self promotion and all that

[sudden anchor]

That was quick. Gj!

[jovial bane]

ah okay

[desert jasper]

<@&1161418687471956101> again

[jovial bane]

.

[silent steeple]

😂

[gilded elm]

CDPR obviously works very closely with Mike Pondsmith on Cyberpunk, which has led to the Cyberpunk universe expanding as a byproduct of 2077's success. Not sure what that relationship is like with the Witcher and the book author.

[desert jasper]

I actually got Cyberpunk 2077 as a gift last week
wonder when I'll get around to playing it

[jovial bane]

hands off approach afaik

[gilded elm]

I would've said terrible game back in 2020 or 2021. But today, in 2025? One of the greatest open world action adventure RPGs ever made, IMO.

[desert jasper]

Still busy with the PoE league
but I'll get around to it

[warped wren]

As early as you can. Phenomenal game.

[placid yarrow]

I replayed cyberpunk with the dlc not long ago. Amazing game

It's the type of game that makes you sad that it's over, I did every single gig and side quest

[silent steeple]

To put it in better words, cdpr makes vdo games that focus on a story to tell while also prioritising combat. There's usually no compromise there and I like that. And I also like how the story told is just. Its raw if it has to be, its short if it has to be. No added spice. At least for W2 and 3 it was like that. But in cyberpunk it felt like everything needed to be retouched. Perhaps it was needed for the period in time where and when night city exists but it still felt, forced.

[warped wren]

I had prepurchased CP2077 on launch, and then got refunded by Sony because it simply didn't work on launch on the PS4

But it stayed in my library

I played it on the PS5 I think a year or two later after they fixed it

Was blown away

[gilded elm]

CDPR went above and beyond with Cyberpunk. From the poor release until now, they really took accountability and turned the game around. They didn't just fix the performance issues, they redesigned and rebuilt significant portions of the game over the years.

2.0 + Edgerunners anime really changed the game in a huge way.

[warped wren]

I have to play the DLC

[silent steeple]

I will say one thing tho. When it comes to building worlds, no one IMHO can touch cdpr

[warped wren]

Haven't gotten around to it yet

Even though I have it

[gilded elm]

Oh yeah, completely forgot about the fact that they also released a crazy good DLC lol

[warped wren]

Lukewarm take but Horizon series comes close

[sudden anchor]

What about mojang?

[warped wren]

Those games are criminally underrated

[placid yarrow]

People forget that Witcher 3 was also giga busted when it first came out. But that game wasn't nearly as anticipated so it kinda went under the radar until it was amazing lol. Hopefully Witcher 4 will be solid from the getgo

Really looking forward to it

[gilded elm]

Phantom Liberty perfectly captures the James Bond feeling in the Cyberpunk setting.

[placid yarrow]

I don't trust cdpr to launch a polished game but I trust them to end up with a polished game

[warped wren]

Funny but true

[jovial bane]

Being in much better state than W2 helped as well Xd

[placid yarrow]

Yea

[gilded elm]

Yeah and sometimes that's more important. Reputation goes a long way.

[placid yarrow]

They have a track record of launching busted games and then fixing them into masterpieces lmao

[jovial bane]

usual slavic jank

[placid yarrow]

No man's sky template (even though it came after)

[gilded elm]

What does "needed to be retouched" mean in this context, btw?

[desert jasper]

Under 9000 map quantity & 30 mods on invitations left

Getting there

[silent steeple]

I agree but come on man! After spending about close to 100 hours in night city, i felt home sick when i stopped playing that game 😂

[abstract karma]

hmm what that have common ? Prince of Persia 1 - 2 - 3 have their story.. it was not sequel to any series in that franchise..
Original was just some prince saving princes or kingdom
Reboot or how to call it, the trilogy which ubisoft cooked when was make good game had own universe just same time

• Forgotten sands is just spin-off it's not sequel or prequel tho they want to be... but you can't just erase 3 game if you want sequel...

And others games within this franchise tried to be just originals with same character..

But i wouldnt that compare to what developers wants to do or want to be from Witcher 4

[placid yarrow]

I'm playing forbidden west right now it's amazing

[warped wren]

It is

The one and only issue with Horizon IMO is that Aloy is the blandest Mary Sue ever written

[jovial bane]

I should finish KCD2. Amazing game as well

[placid yarrow]

I think it was a slight mistake to start on ultra hard but we ball

Almost finished with the main questline I think

[maiden widget]

I actually liked the first half of the game with alloy but then I just completely lost interest

[warped wren]

But it's alright, because the world and the story and the mob design and the art make up for it

[abstract karma]

still waiting on good price.. because ppl saying that Story are worse and gameplay is beyond what was good in Horuizon Dawn
And to some gameplay parts which i've intersted it looks like they cut a lot of good things from 1st one

[placid yarrow]

I don't disagree. But while it's no Witcher 3 I think the story and characters are very serviceable

[warped wren]

Yeah the story, as in the plot and premise, is quite good

Just Aloy's writing is blergh

Like it's not the worst ever or anything, it's just mediocre

[silent steeple]

Im trying so hard to think of words or examples to explain this better 😂

[warped wren]

Hell I think some of the side characters are much more interesting than her

[placid yarrow]

It's one sale right now. And I'd say the combat is better, story is about the same

[maiden widget]

I wish we'd get game storylines to be remotely as good as the average discworld novel

[placid yarrow]

The only thing that annoys the hell out of me is the insane snapping when in focus mode that can make it super frustrating to mark things sometimes lmao. That's the only thing where you can clearly tell it was made for consoles first and then ported over, everything else works great

[abstract karma]

unfortunately i've already bought with saved money what i wanted trough blackfriday so i hope for Chritmas or new Year sales

[placid yarrow]

Fair. Forbidden west is what I got myself, had been waiting for it to go on sale since the port came out

[jovial bane]

finish what you are playing, don't leave the growing backlog like I do

[warped wren]

I forgot I have to do my obligatory shilling in this server too: W40K Darktide is on sale for $9 rn

[desert jasper]

Instruction unclear, backlog of 400 games left

[jovial bane]

😭

[placid yarrow]

You're lucky stoneshard isn't on sale

[warped wren]

It has, in my opinion, the BEST moment-to-moment combat of any horde shooter ever made

[placid yarrow]

Love that game

[warped wren]

I cannot recommend it enough

[jovial bane]

oh dear lord, Stoneshard is one of the best torture devices I've ever played

[desert jasper]

oh right
I tried the demo for that

[jovial bane]

demo and actual game are sadly two different things

[placid yarrow]

I mean it's the same game but yeah the prologue / demo are streamlined and on rails while the actual game is way more sandboxy

[abstract karma]

Bough DeadSpace 2,
Fable since my physical disks are not in good state,
Disciples old school rts
Days Gone
Fear 1 / 2

[placid yarrow]

I remember playing fable on the ps2

Good times

[desert jasper]

Have you played Trepang 2?

[abstract karma]

havent heard about a lot of games so

[placid yarrow]

Fable and rogue trooper were my favorite games back then lol

[desert jasper]

It's kinda like Fear 1/2

[jovial bane]

rn my backlog is KCD2 and The Necromancer's Tale. Sadly with latter writing takes a nosedive towards the end of the game.

KCD2 on the other hand is IMHO the best RPG of the year. But it's also so big, it's almost exhausting

[placid yarrow]

Ill have to finish kcd1 first and then when kcd2 goes on sale I'll prob get it sometime in the future

[abstract karma]

looks like Selaco but without pixelized graphic

[desert jasper]

Haven't heard of Selaco

[abstract karma]

its not out yet but it looks like Doom with brutality (i mean old doom not remakes)

[placid yarrow]

Metro Exodus was a pretty good time

I've enjoyed all the metro games I've played tbh

Solid series

[desert jasper]

Honeslty, I don't really do horror stuff

[abstract karma]

I hate Metro.. >.> never got good ending though i've tried not kill anybody 😄

[jovial bane]

oh no, I've just remembered I had modded honour run in BG3 in backlog as well

[placid yarrow]

Exodus is less horror than the ones before it

It's more similar to something like far cry

[abstract karma]

Well its more about nature and cure than what was 1 / 2 about..

Also miss a lot of thing from that

[placid yarrow]

At least far cry 3

Haven't played the newer ones

[jovial bane]

Knowing Ubisoft it's probably more Far cry 3 lol

[abstract karma]

Far Cry is somehow good to 4 max then its just downhill which is "what good sloppy dictator would be in this or that era"

[desert jasper]

A friend of mine was writing a fanfiction of Metro
but he replaced all the vodka etc with other alcohol because "I don't like vodka"

[placid yarrow]

Lol

[jovial bane]

did he replace anything with gin ?

[desert jasper]

lol no

[jovial bane]

at least he knows his booze then lmao

[abstract karma]

hmm on GoG you have free install of Stalker Gamma.. Seems that modding communities changed..

Well not wonder good pages already vanishing.. Remains only a few

[desert jasper]

He shouldn't tbh, he has epilepsy

[jovial bane]

xD

[desert jasper]

Epilepsy and a drinking habit

[jovial bane]

it's something GoG does sometimes. IIRC Thief games have modded option in store as well

[abstract karma]

Wanted play Sacred 1 / 2 with remaster but that thing needs Cooking and Sacred 1 mods which aren't detecable by virustotal at least normal mod for bigger resolutions >.>

[jovial bane]

Because, well they are hardly playable vanilla

[silent steeple]

Exodus was an emotional train ride

[abstract karma]

Thief hmm first i should finish rest of Dishonored and Styx

[desert jasper]

I have a physical copy of one of the thief games somewhere
not sure where tbh

[placid yarrow]

Badum tss

I'm waiting for the first punk 2 dlc. Played the closed beta and it was pretty fun

I'll get a few utopia runs out of it

[abstract karma]

we need cheris these games even its they are "badum tss"

Current games are much worse except a few rarities or indie gods

[jovial bane]

The Alters is also pretty good. Different beast than Frostpunk, but interesting enough.

[gilded elm]

Alters is a great game, requires a good bit of patience though.

[placid yarrow]

Yeah was a good time

If you like alters you might enjoy Ixion

If you like colony sims in general there's a new one called whiskerwood that's been really fun. The devs have to be on catnip or something they've been pumping out updates at a crazy pace. People will suggest something and they'll have it implemented and shipped in the same day sometimes

Obviously I don't think it'll stay like that but their early access launch was insane, 7 patches in the first week lol. Not huge ones obviously but they added functionality people were asking for and made meaningful and good changes with each one

[jovial bane]

I need to finish Ixion one day.
Whiskerwood did not capture me however.

I might return to Oxygen Not Included for the time being.

[placid yarrow]

I don't like the aesthetic in oxygen not included sadly

[jovial bane]

Understandable, it's very "quirky"

[placid yarrow]

For me it's mostly that the background is always ugly

[jovial bane]

But I do like that it's a colony building game with no combat, but despite that it's quite challenging.

[placid yarrow]

You can build walls and decorate but it never feels like you can make an actual building

It feels like permanent scaffolding

[jovial bane]

a bit

[placid yarrow]

Like the actual art is good. But the way the base looks isn't

[fierce moth]

I have great troubles to play survival games :(

[abstract karma]

hmm there is blood remake ?

[jovial bane]

But it has no depth to the rooms, yeah

[junior oyster]

288% quant

[placid yarrow]

If you guys like chill management games there's a game called potionomics that I think is a hidden gem

[junior oyster]

Curr quant*

[jovial bane]

Potionomics was fun

[placid yarrow]

Very underrated tbh

[abstract karma]

oh from Nightdive Studios so that's why..

[jovial bane]

System Shock remaster from nightdive was amazing

Weird that they've botched their latest remaster.

[placid yarrow]

Generational debt

Designer potion

And the customer can't refuse the sale

Better take out 3 mortgages peasant

[jovial bane]

Ah yes, putting little girls in debt

Reminds me of Recettear

[placid yarrow]

Yeah similar plot tbh lol

[abstract karma]

System shock 1 Remaster was more or less Remake..

Its typical from this studio - they first trie remaster old game with old mechanics and engine if possible
they they remake whole game to modern view

[jovial bane]

I loved that textures were pixelated, and a bit low res of you paid attention. Made it feel like old game through nostalgia glasses

[abstract karma]

Well if they will try keep to their "thing" we should get remaster of System Shock 2 like 1

[jovial bane]

I wish

[abstract karma]

First system shock was this - https://store.steampowered.com/app/410710/System_Shock_Enhanced_Edition/?curator_clanid=5644295 their "remaster"
then came System shock 1

[jovial bane]

ahhh

I've missed enchanced edition

[abstract karma]

Well their studio isnt well known.. so no wonder

[jovial bane]

TBF I've been itching to play the first system shock for years, problem was ... well it's system shock. It had infamous controls

[abstract karma]

idk myself so

[jovial bane]

For starters it's one of those old FPS games that had no mouse camera control lol

[abstract karma]

that hadnt even wolfenstein or original doom without zdoom engine

[jovial bane]

yeah, but judging by level design, atmosphere and story of the remake (as well as of SS2) it's still one of my fav old games.

Not the one I like the most, that would be Might and Magic VII. But it's up there

[desert jasper]

Oh, I got invited to a party next saturday 🤔

[fierce moth]

what's wrong with the left tower 🤔

[silent steeple]

The very first thought that came to my mind when I saw this was "have a scaled this in assassin's creed?"

[twilit mountain]

Man they really overnerfed LS :(

My old Settlers build with all buffs maxed out lost like 75% of its damage :/

[desert jasper]

Just 7891 map quant and 25 mods on invitations left
I think I can do that tomorrow 🤔

[desert jasper]

That sucks

Oh actually
if it's at same rate as I did quant today it's not done tomorrow

[warped wren]

They nerfed your build specifically from like 6 directions if I'm not mistaken

[junior stirrup]

Captialism, ho!

[twilit mountain]

Yeeeeah

[warped wren]

And your favorite farm too

[twilit mountain]

I really don't understand why the hell they slapped a less damage mod on LS. Like. Do they really think people are going to melee with it? The entire point of the skill's design is the projectiles!

[warped wren]

(I do not disagree with any of it xdd, I'm a huge fan of nerfing insane outliers)

[warped wren]

Bandaid fix probably

Melee-proj hybrid skills need a design overhaul

[twilit mountain]

It's like if they took Viper Strike and went "we should make it do less damage with poison"

[junior stirrup]

^_^

[desert jasper]

The only reason I'm familiar with Recettear is a youtuber
hey hey people

[fierce moth]

🤔 Judd is off work? I should take a shower and go to bed too

[desert jasper]

You should

[fierce moth]

hah Maybe I can put a Kain's magic ball into my golden church. What your magic ball look like, Kain?

[desert jasper]

Pondering the orb

[fierce moth]

No idea how to show the orb is pondering

[desert jasper]

the orb isn't the one doing it

[potent dew]

I actually had recettear come up in my steam recommendations when it released. One of the earlier 'casual simulator' type games.

My magic eight ball is just a normal one from the 90's. Nothing special

[desert jasper]

There's a person, possibly a wizard, looking intently at an orb

[fierce moth]

lol

Me: What the hell is that

[potent dew]

You've never seen a magic eight ball? It's a ball filled with an opaque liquid, and a die with different responses on it. You shake it, and face the window up, the die floats to the top, with one of the sides exposed to the window giving you an answer such as "Yes", "No", "Maybe", "try again later", etc.

[placid yarrow]

In some of these haggling games they literally can't, which is what makes it so funny when you mark up something so high that if it were real life would put the customer into crippling debt lol (in this game a potion selling for over a couple thousand is a lot)

[fierce moth]

die = dice?

[potent dew]

correct, singular of dice

[fierce moth]

hah this is a cool idea. Use a magical dice to decide the fate

[potent dew]

Yea, was a super popular toy in the 80's and 90's here. Definitely a fun concept. Before we could go to an online random picker/wheel, we had a magic eight ball, haha.

[fierce moth]

More interesting than just place a holy bible. A lot

Magic books don't quite interesting

[placid yarrow]

The fact that they let you || fly freely || later on makes exploring and doing side activities so much better. Which for me was a big pain point in Witcher 3 tbh. I still did all the side content there too but navigating mountains on roach was hassle sometimes to say the least lmao.

[warped wren]

Yeah and that mode of traversal is a visual treat to boot

[placid yarrow]

Yeah it makes you actually want to explore

[warped wren]

Even mount travel is stunning

Although

I will say that there's not a single game I've played that made traversal for quests as immersive as Ghost of Tsushima

[placid yarrow]

I feel like more open world games need to find a way and or excuse to put this kinda thing into their game later on

[warped wren]

Actually goated

[placid yarrow]

Haven't played that one

[warped wren]

Do so at the first opportunity

Amazing game

[placid yarrow]

Is it a similar type of game? can't remember

[warped wren]

Open world RPG yes

[placid yarrow]

oh nice

[warped wren]

In feudal Japan

Can go whole hog Samurai or sneaky nasty ninja or mix

It is definitely the most immersive RPG I've ever played

And visually the most stunning

[placid yarrow]

Damn it's on sale right now

I'll think about it

sounds very tempting

[warped wren]

If you set a waypoint on the map in Ghost of Tsushima, you don't get some annoying pointer or highlight

The wind around you flows in the direction of your waypoint

And you follow that

[placid yarrow]

Ohhh right I saw that when it first came out

yeah that's cool

[warped wren]

I haven't been able to buy Ghost of Yotei yet because broke

But I've heard good things

[placid yarrow]

Is that from the same studio?

[warped wren]

Yes

Oh also

Ghost of Tsushima has insanely good character writing, plot points and pacing

Like, INSANELY good

One of the lines from the final quest in the main questline has stayed with me to this day, it was so epic

[placid yarrow]

Seems like it goes on sale decently often, this is the first time it's gone on sale at 40% though, usually it only goes down by 33%, But yeah I think I'll wait until the next sale since I already got horizon a couple days ago.

I'll have something to look forward to

[twilit mountain]

@desert jasper I have decided to use the MB on a build that I cannot calculate the damage of

[warped wren]

Salvo Miner?

[twilit mountain]

Nah funnier. EoW brand Sabo.

[warped wren]

oh lmao

RIP your graphics card

[twilit mountain]

Indeed

[jade jackal]

Nothing. I saw something else

[distant mica]

LMAO

[desert jasper]

Good, good

[junior oyster]

Lowkey wish I had a mb but I'm gunna either level to 100 or find a mb and then quit

[fierce moth]

Raining here.
I never see this type of 911

I guess I ran out the sneezing I need to take in my life today...

[real charm]

oh you have a plushie ?

[desert jasper]

Bought it just 5minutes ago

Might give it to the nephew

[fierce moth]

What a good coincidence is 🤣

[desert jasper]

Though I'm most likely not seeing my brother again this year

[stone anvil]

offtopic > general

[real charm]

I would have posted it in general, but we cant

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhhh

(I don't know why but... Mike just looks funny per time he appeared in Hawg's meme videos)

hhhhhhhh

[maiden widget]

Gave that to my nephew for Christmas last year

[fierce moth]

Hawg is quite good at making meme videos...I can't help but laugh if I watch one

[ebon meadow]

Where is this place asking for a friend with forklift licence and 16 years experience

[sudden anchor]

He looks stressed, exhausted. Sending prayers

[fierce moth]

From 6 mins ago

[desert jasper]

Just 4864 map quantity and 15 mods on invitations left

[silent steeple]

Have u played this game?

[stone anvil]

chinese

[fierce moth]

Played 20h and gave it up by no available builds. Ice elementist is nerfed and battle mage is too mana-consuming, I'm a mage player.

I think the movement speed of my characters is too slow in tq 2, it's the main reason why boss combats are quite hard to deal

[fierce moth]

Fun joke: I never play le in Chinese

[silent steeple]

Makes sense. I have the game in library but Im waiting for the game to have some decent amount of content before trying it out

From what I heard someone said its equivalent to a demo game 😂

[desert jasper]

I think it took me about 7hours to go through everything when it came out
and it only had that 1 chapter

Could've been a lot faster

[silent steeple]

I wonder why they rushed to release the game in such a state

Its a long awaited sequel but ppl who waited so many years would waited another year or two if it meant the game came out with at least 60-80 hours of gameplay

[desert jasper]

Well they probably want feedback from a larger group of players

[silent steeple]

Ah yes, the paid playtesting design but where playtesters pay the company instead of it being other way around 😂

[sudden anchor]

What if they wanted to also test the testers willingness to spend money

[silent steeple]

Im assuming they would do that by doing something like introducing a store instead of more chapters

[twilit mountain]

AGGGGGGH

[desert jasper]

I'm jealous
Send some of that snow over here

[junior oyster]

I'm kinda jealous

Not a big fan of what happens when snow becomes ice though

[desert jasper]

I'm just tired of it being dark until like 10am
and getting dark by 4pm
Snow helps a lot with that

[twilit mountain]

There's a whole-ass bulldozer in the parking lot across the way trying to keep it clear. It is actively snowing.

[desert jasper]

Good luck with that

oh yea I found 2x Brother's Stash today

[maiden widget]

id appreciate it if the snow could happen between 16th dec and 6th of january - 0 interest in driving to work with lotsa snow

[warped wren]

hype off the charts

[desert jasper]

Darktide is fun

[junior oyster]

Worth doing containment here?

[warped wren]

Containment in t16.5s is kinda hit or miss IMO. Over time you'll probably make a profit but it'll be spiky as hell because you don't have uber frags to make up for bad luck streaks

[warped wren]

mindblowingly

I just bought the new class' deluxe pack

it's so nuts lol

made of paper and glass though

1 poxwalker hits you = toughness gone

[desert jasper]

I haven't used any money on the game after buying it

[warped wren]

I have, because they've earned it

sunk over 600 hrs into the game and I still only consider myself like a bit below average

the combat is just so peak

[desert jasper]

I've uhh.. 36hours
I only play it on some wednesdays with a few friends
other than that Idon't touch it

[junior oyster]

Yea I tried it + 60% deli and got 2valdo boxes

I'll skip containment I think

What I don't know is if I should be using potency scarab

People dropping hh/mb left right and centre meanwhile me:

[desert jasper]

I mean
There's a lot of players
someone is bound to get the drop eventually

It's like comparing that ppl get mirrors or 20div drops from the tree
and you're not getting that

[junior oyster]

I'm not necessarily complaining lol

I know how rng works xD

[desert jasper]

I didn't say you were complaining
I do a lot of that comparison of drops too and it does ruin a lot of it for me

[junior oyster]

Nah I'm happy where I am lol

If I wasn't I'd be selling my gifts off

[desert jasper]

👍

[fierce moth]

🤔 The process of convincing people to support a person to become president of US before the final election is quite hard because they must travel to different states to give speeches, convince citizens to vote for them... Why people can quite good at speaking and always energetic... Seems that good at speaking is the common leaders owns

[desert jasper]

back to 45% already
hope I don't die 4 times in a row now

[junior oyster]

I'm at 30%

Exp is so damn slow

[desert jasper]

You're lvl 99, right?

[junior oyster]

Yep

Died once already lol

[desert jasper]

Yeah, I'd be that too if I hadn't died 9 times this lvl

[junior oyster]

I take it you use omen?

[desert jasper]

nah I'm too dumb to get one
i always forget it's a thing

[junior oyster]

Same

Besides it's only 1 death in this game lol

Per map

Ngl I think I should buy it

[desert jasper]

But I'll probably get some of them if I do hit 99

Isn't 99 halfway to 100?

[junior oyster]

No idea

I honestly hate when I see rarity over quant lol

[desert jasper]

Amanamu fight is hilarious as CWS build
he goes up in the air to do his shotgun projectile thing
and you just blast him hard

probably the best lich to fight as that build

[junior oyster]

I still can't believe my second kill of that guy dropped a 99% belt and gaze

[desert jasper]

I can't believe that either

I got another gaze a while ago
but they're not 11+ divs anymore

[twilit mountain]

Destiny DLC is so peak

The "town" has a like, commune of solo ghosts hanging around

[neon sigil]

Hey deias, were you able to reinstall poe2 by chance?

[twilit mountain]

Not yet, I can set it to go tonight

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Art/comments/1pbvhnp/print_a_message_from_the_new_mod_team/
r/art ended the selection of mods and built a new mod team

Print

[junior oyster]

I mean I was definitely not expecting this lol

[desert jasper]

👀

[junior oyster]

I think first time to see a div here lol

[desert jasper]

I actually got a stack of 20 the other day

[neon sigil]

that would be awesome! :) appreciate ya

[desert jasper]

dang
Died at 58% :<

[junior oyster]

You're getting exp much faster than me lol

[desert jasper]

Changed to Eater from Maven

Also holy I didn't realize the omens that preserve some exp on death are that expensive

And I've ignored so many of them in rituals

[junior oyster]

Lol

I've sold the 2 that I found lol

No regrets

Except now I kinda do

Btw they only work one time per instance unlike poe2 and don't stack

Or at least I think they don't stack?

Not too sure of that one

[quaint forge]

Are they new mods or just new accounts lol

[distant mica]

Great teamwork

[stone anvil]

new accounts KEKW

[placid yarrow]

Not so ez clap, should have gone on very hard instead of ultra hard for a fresh save lmao. Didn't realize it was intended for NG+ but we made it happen

[fierce moth]

Good question 🤔

[distant mica]

Loading up Christmas stock

[fierce moth]

There's a evil monster guarding priceless treasures in a cave, no one can live in the combat with that if they selected fight it alone. A few wise men are lived near the entrance of the cave, waiting someone to ask for help. But they never see someone to ask their help.

After thousands of years, a young traveller come to the entrance of this cave because he heard he can get endless treasures if he can kill the monster alone. But he knew the monster is extreme powerful and the myth too. But he didn't believe that and want to gave it a try.

Out of surprises, this young traveller is extreme brave and lucky to escape the hunting of monster. But he was scared seriously so he passed out because of a fever after the monster disappeared. Luckily, one of wise men go through his position and saved him.

The young traveller decided to ask for help of this wise man and shared treasures guarded by monsters after he waked up. He appreciated the help so much so he want to come true a dream of wise man. The dream of this wise man is wish someone come to his home and say hi only.

The ending is good. Everyone got what are they want.

A dream I had in a 2-hour nap ⬆️

[blissful token]

Gunz the duel is back

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LurKRjYgFps
Oh just notice Chris' new video

the story of the art director is... I think it's quite luck for him to make a friend with Chris while they're young

Cross-industry to do art stuff. This is a legend

I'm doubt if this is his linkedin 🤔

(art director and creative director is easy to be mixed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNJ_d_TnMdM
wow this gameplay poe have tried on a league looks quite interesting!!!

I like exploring mazes by managing my path 👀 100% puzzle elements are here

😔 But it's not available in poe anymore

https://youtu.be/pM_5S55jUzk?si=UnDiEYbnJhPX6pCx&t=2000
Oh GGG have mastered the technique they need for crafting abyssal 6 years ago or earlier... Make sense why they can did abyssal in poe 2 efficiently

Abyssal is a fun mechanic, it's different every time you play it because that level is present in is a completely different story... "Multiple overlapping axes of randomness".

Oh still use abyssal in poe 2 as the example, it maybe

1. On amount: 1 cracks, or 2, or 3, or 4
2. On chests: magic, rare and large rare
3. On possibilities: no depth or a depth
4. On types: 2 types of rare enemies
5. On encounters: 2 bosses fight and 1 normal map

🤔 Then players can play abyssal 500+ times

lol poe 2's highhill and red desert is the first thing jump in my mind. Then is lost shrine in act 2 and that blue map in interlace act 2

[desert jasper]

Yeah, the exp loss prevention omens are only 1/instance
died twice in ele reflect + less res map

[fierce moth]

Doing a hell challenge

Anyone who have tried pixel art will know the difficulty. The curve.

Oh spotify released recap 2025? Another year that never use this app

[desert jasper]

35 challenges
Now just need 10 more mods on invitations and I hit 36
Then it's a question if I want to go for lvl 100 or not
currently sitting at 81%

Also already have invitations in my stash waiting for me to run them

[sand wigeon]

spotify wrapped is out

[junior oyster]

Plot line of slay the spire

[junior oyster]

Nope I hated synthesis league lol

[desert jasper]

Synthesis had potential
Like if you could've rotated the map pieces it would've been better
and if the drops didn't have weird things like "You can only drop fractured items in memories that are on their last use and actively going away while you're in it"
etc

Also kinda left me a foul taste in the mouth when I got one of the perandus coin places
and it dropped like 100k of them in stacks of 100

Also people figuring out the synthesis recipe for exploding implicit in the first day or two
it was like... light radius and something else

I'm glad it's never coming back as a thing and instead we just got the fractures, synth mods and the boss fights

Imagine if you had to build up the web every time you wanted to fight one of those bosses

it did have nice lore stuff though
And I remember ppl first thought the memory guy was Zana's dad somehow returned as memory after Elder nommed him

I can't remember the music of it though
It did have a great brimmed hat as mtx and I kinda wish I had bought it

[junior oyster]

Well elder is her uncle so

[fierce moth]

how many years you played poe?

[desert jasper]

But it's not

Elder is the same as Maven is

[desert jasper]

Since 2013
Not all the time, have taken breaks

[junior oyster]

Elder is a celestial and maven is a different kind of being but I was joking about the uncle thing

[desert jasper]

Maven, Elder, Eater & Exarch are all eldritch things from beyond the atlas

[junior oyster]

I can't even remember when I started poe

Maybe 2019?

It was bestiary league

[desert jasper]

I didn't play bestiary

[junior oyster]

Technically I tried poe before that but never got past the ridge or something like that

Didn't even make it to the prison cuz I found the game too slow and boring

[desert jasper]

I remember a friend of mine showed it to me
back when the game ended in act2 end

[junior oyster]

Ngl if poe wasn't on steam I'd have never tried it

Even to this day

[desert jasper]

They've removed a lot of areas since then
like there were .. 4 or 5? areas between prisoners gate & merveil's cavern

[junior oyster]

Similar thing happened to me with grim dawn

I was like what an ugly looking game

And even tried it before AoM

And quit very early in a1 lol

[desert jasper]

got them 36 challenges done

[junior oyster]

AoM changed my mind because d3 showed their version of necro and that absolutely disappointed me lol

[junior oyster]

Man that looks ugly ah but gg

I'm not going to get the challenges done

[desert jasper]

Honestly
I wouldn't have gone for it but I just kinda got to like
30 very easily
and then looked at the remaining ones and was like "yeah sure, I could do those"
last time I did 36 was in... Ritual, I think

[junior oyster]

Like I'd like to but it just feels too boring

[maiden widget]

Also too lazy for them, feels more like work than fun to me sadly

[junior oyster]

And some just kinda impossible too

[desert jasper]

These are the ones that I didn't do

tbh I could've done the breachlords one if I put in effort to fight it more than once

[junior oyster]

Tbf as soon as I hit 100 I might challenge myself more

[desert jasper]

I'm kinda sad I hit only 35 challenges in Delve league
I really wanted that portal
but like the last challenge I needed was vaal boss killed without using flares, I think
and I just didn't find more of the vaal bosses

[fierce moth]

My problem is I don't even want to click poe icon

[desert jasper]

Not much we can help with there

[sudden anchor]

Nub is right, dont click links from strangers and people you know probably too. Because it happens all the time, people get hacked and send you a virus or a walletdrain. And social engineering is always a possibility too. Cant be too naive today, when the pc is so important.

[desert jasper]

Yup
A streamer I follow had an example
one of his friends was making a game and he had previously helped test it out
that friend got hacked and the hacked account then sent him a DL link asking if the streamer could try it out

the thing that alarmed him on it was that the hacked acc sent it in another language than what they normally used

So he sent a txt message to the guy asking if it's him
nope

[fierce moth]

Oh twitch have recap too

The 1st full Loot-based ARPG year

[desert jasper]

expedition 33 isn't loot based arpg

[fierce moth]

You know, e33 is the most popular game in 2025

AI voxel plants. I want to share them here suddenly

[junior oyster]

Most popular doesn't make it lootfilled lol

Loot based arpg I mean

[fierce moth]

I mean I watched that game because it's extreme popular after the release

[sudden anchor]

There is too less grubby on that list of Channels. Hes such an amazing human being. Love to hear his thoughts.

It often makes me take a look in the mirror too, because i find myself acting similar, when he shares some struggle in life.

And always with some insight

Or atleast he tries to, but hes not afraid to say "idk"

[desert jasper]

None of those are in my list

[fierce moth]

#💬┃general message
It's why I cooked this one 2 years ago :)

Want to own something always is the biggest power lol

Never see a real gingerbread house in life yet

[jade jackal]

I think its time to quest

Titan quest... 2

[south gust]

@fierce moth Here you go!

[jade jackal]

when are we getting an LE cookbook

[south gust]

If enough people want one, I think I could push to make it happen. I just need support from you guys

[jade jackal]

lets start with a Gregory plushie lol

im not wasting this ticket

[vagrant topaz]

I was going to say

I want a hoodie and a pair of socks

[south gust]

I actually have a pair of purple LE socks haha

[vagrant topaz]

You don't have to rub it in

[fierce moth]

I'm playing that too

Looks like I understand how to play tq 2 this time

Just... Don't stick to be a mage.

[desert jasper]

Just go full melee

[fierce moth]

yes you're right

Just use the weapon with more damage and swipe that. Ranged weapons are so bad because poor damage + slow cast speed/attack speed

I bet Grimlore games are a group of melee fans

[desert jasper]

Look
even melee weapons are bad if you're not specced into them at all

Ranged weapons are good if you're using them and have put in points to them
Spells are good too if you spec right

[fierce moth]

No. Melee feel better a lot... Because I don't need to target the enemy

(I killed the 1st boss without death hhhh)

[hot crown]

...So apparently Micron is leaving consumer RAM market...

Do you folks think this is the beginning of the end for us?

[desert jasper]

Yes, rip consumers

[hot crown]

Don't you think that this "ai" crap is getting WAAAAAY too fkn far?

First it's been mining, now it's "ai".

Both are INFREAKINGCREDIBLY destructive both for the environment AND for GPU+RAM markets.

Yet nobody gives a flying f--- about it apparently.

Guess it's time to leave IT for good and never look back.

It's irreversibly tainted now.

[desert jasper]

Oh I absolutely believe it's getting wayy too far
and it will burst

[jade jackal]

lol im reading this convo in 2 different chats now

[hot crown]

What's the second one?

[abstract karma]

welp its just end for just some countries.. because China and other big countries have monopoly on material recourses.. They wont get hurt by any things now..
they will just widen gap between used technologies..

So only what will get rekt/damaged are IT companies or normal users which use technologies where it's need any kind of RAM or same designed memories..

[sudden anchor]

would you rather not have ai at all? what else would we do, conquering the universe?

the problem is not ai, its how we use it

[abstract karma]

that would be actually way f.. better because who know how many various materials could be found in other planets near to us which would push our technology level bit futher.. (tho it might sounds like sci-fi)

Not having dark era of "Dark Mediaeval", we would colonize the universe - favourite sentence from StarGate..

• and its f.. right as hell.. Even now what f.. hinder our progress ? Stupid political and religions BS

[sudden anchor]

yes, and ai will probably help with getting there.

[warped wren]

mfw AI can't perform a basic logic hop and bro expects AI to help with space exploration

tomfoolery

[abstract karma]

not like this.. Ai might me great but cost for integration and no potential regulations and limits makes from it just hole in
money
precious resources

not even a freaking 2 years of this AI nonsense public "boom" and market is already on edge due to integration and hunger needs of some AI

I dont need fridge with chip which has AD's on IT

[sudden anchor]

this is where i have a cognitive dissonance, because in my mind its the same like this: cars for example, were constantly getting better, they werent just perfect to drive everywhere from first day on

[warped wren]

I have been using AI in my work since 2023 and i can confirm to you without a shred of doubt that it has literally gotten WORSE over time

because of the following reasons

[abstract karma]

nah.. Cars havent been pusn anywhere.. if something they are made from worse and worse materials while only thing which is improved is too much "tech" on detections and electronics in it..

[warped wren]

1. firms are coding it to prioritize engagement rather than accuracy or reliability, so it will literally make shit up if it feels you'll stay on the platform
2. the source data is getting worse and going in a recursive loop. There are firms out there using AI to create feed data and then selling it to AI firms which use it in their chatbots which are then used to create feed data, in an infinite loop. The current estimate is that over 90% of the internet will be AI generated by 2026
3. there is literally no regulation on what AI can and cannot say, and you can see the consequences of that in the suicide enablement cases that have happened

oh and the AI arms race has ensured that all of this will matter even less to firms because all they're out to do is make a quick buck and any kind of restraint / user-benefit will literally get in their way

[abstract karma]

time to move to darkweb 🤔

[warped wren]

I'd rather not be stalked by serial killers

also

[abstract karma]

welp its one of more isolated space withing internet (for now)

[warped wren]

anybody who has any expertise in a given subject who uses AI can tell you that it literally cannot do shit without enormous amounts of human intervention, to the point where the "benefit" of using it may as well be non-existent

e.g. one of the things I use it for is writing blogs (I hate doing it but it pays the bills). It is so horribly unreliable that I have to cross-check literally every single data point. The only minor benefit I'm getting is some formatting, so I guess maybe a 10% time saving on my work? And even there, the language and tone is so shit I need to rewrite large parts of it.

don't even get me started on how garbage it is for writing marketing copy

[sudden anchor]

thats only the case for open llm like chatgpt and such (even there some firms have private branches). ai in military, medicine, etc. is already on these standards. they dont rely on user engagement. llm is jsut another branch, corrupted by capitalism. the year will be 2035 and everyone will gladly use an ai assistance robotic unit.

[warped wren]

and this is not a one model problem, I've used Gemini / ChatGPT / Claude / Copilot, they're all terrible

[warped wren]

the "AI in military, medicine" you are talking about is heavy human intervention, niche use case programs, not this generative slop that's being peddled to the masses. That's what is called Artificial Specialized Intelligence and has been a thing for over a decade now.

[abstract karma]

geez..

You realize how AI works ŕight ? Which means medicine integrated AI works like gambling in casion.. you rely on % answer that you have some illness or can have one day

[warped wren]

comparing that with generative slop is like comparing Walmart beans to small batch artisanal coffee.

[sudden anchor]

whats the difference to a doctor?