📚┃off-topic

[jade jackal]

LE is in a bit of a dire need of later game and endgame systems, and im waiting to not just focus on the monoliths anymore

I would love an alternative endgame system

[unique creek]

I don’t disagree

But the monoliths could also be worked to be better as well, I’d say

As much as I feel PoE gets over-glazed, I’m not gonna pretend they’re not doing something right with the maps system

[narrow token]

I never get far enough in PoE to even see what their endgame IS.

Same with PoE2

I always get to the end and just start another character because I just hit this impenetrable WALL of nope.

[jade jackal]

I would love if LE makes a new mapping / dungeon system that's not in the end of time, and doesnt just remixes all environments in the game. I would love a new endgame mechanic to focus on one type of maps, in a single hub, with new NPCs and a new atmosphere. I would kill for a castle / fort themed system where we get to spend time inside and outside the walls of a giant castle that can combined randomly generated layouts and farm-purposed mapping, just something that isnt a web of random locations

Just something where i can spend time outside the end of time in some clastrophobic circle in the sky between teleporting in and out of random maps

[narrow token]

Idk if that fits LE's central theme of time travel though.

[unique creek]

I don’t mind the reuse of the environments, personally

[narrow token]

Maybe if it was a castle in different eras

[jade jackal]

It would be a particular era

not just any era

we have the perfect lore for a giant battle

[unique creek]

I can think of a few ways to make it work

[narrow token]

Like the Temple of Eterra from the beginning of time to the end.

[jade jackal]

just abuse it, strengthen the lore of Eterra

Get us to meet new NPCs

[radiant helm]

I'd like then to remake the end of time and do some cool features.

Make it bigger, prettier and a space where people hang out

Maybe allow people to open stores in there like the mmos?

hell add dancing emotes so people can sit there AFK dancing like the good old times lol

[unique creek]

The biggest thing when it comes to PoE’s maps is how keystones let you make it as easy or hard as you want and reward you accordingly

Something like that in monos would be huge

Especially if you tied the corruption to that instead of what they have now

[jade jackal]

im going to abuse the upcoming lore stream we have to try and squeeze some information about the different castles in the map lol

[radiant helm]

As far as lore go i can say that i'm really out of it lmao
Finished the game, figure out that theres an angry bird and a deer fighting, theres this john epoch guy who wants to rewrite the time and theres an evil snake that i think we killed

[jade jackal]

all im looking for is an excuse to have a bit of lore and an endgame system outside the end of time

Act 10's lore is actually so far the most interesting in this whole story

I think its also the best told so far, an uptick from previous acts

And the new zones are gorgous, a very serious improvement over the dark and damp stuff we see in most other acts

[radiant helm]

That i gotta agree with ya, specially going up those chains, really damn cool

[jade jackal]

the chains, the sky temple

brightness and color are a very rare sight throughout Last Epoch's campaign

You spend 2/3 of it in dark zones

[radiant helm]

Even then, that crystal cave area was gorgeous

genuinely this chapter added some of the prettiest backgrounds this game ever offered

[jade jackal]

I waited from March of 2024 to play these zones

very happy it turned out good

I would love to not have to wait a year and a half again for a planned zone lol

[unique creek]

Sounds like I have lots of screenshot taking to look forward to

I’m currently making my way through the imperial era

[radiant helm]

100% genuinely even in graphical quality standards it feels better then anything we had

[radiant helm]

Also one thing i'll say, they need to remove that cutscene with the bird attacking the ice guy

That one is 100% awful, replace it with literally anything else

lmao

[jade jackal]

Rahyeh vs Heorot scene?

Yeah its a bit janky

[twilit mountain]

Corruption is absolute dogshit as a system and I will die on this hill. I am not willing to budge inch.

[jade jackal]

its ok to hate the corruption system

there are a lot of tedious things about it

There's just one big game design problem about it. endgame balancing is performed around difficulties that are worlds higher than a vanilla lv100 difficulty, which means that if a new endgame system exists, it should abide to the difficulty that the monolith system works by

[unique creek]

As it stands now, I don’t disagree

That doesn’t mean making a new system under the same name wouldn’t be a viable option

[radiant helm]

I guess so? i'm awful with their names lol

Also one thing as well

[jade jackal]

big rebellious bird against forest man-horse-deer person

[radiant helm]

Yeah exactly those

that scene is the jankiest thing in this game lol

it makes me understand why every other cutscene is 2d

Also on another note

Those exiled mages should go away tbh, give their experimental stuff to the nemesis or something

totally unecessary for then to exist at this point

[jade jackal]

Exiled system is now just a relic of older versions

I guess EHG can spice it up with some added mechanics / meaning

last season my take was simple - come up with a new pool of crazy experimental affixes. There's nothing "experimental" about this mild nothingburger affixes, make them crazy

[radiant helm]

Well

Exept for the ward afix

that one was quite insane when it came out lmao

[twilit mountain]

I think he's like, an elk centaur?

[jade jackal]

ye

[radiant helm]

man bear pig aah situation

[jade jackal]

its an Elk technically

which is a trope that exists in many mythos

[twilit mountain]

I have an elk plushie

[jade jackal]

All of these gods rely on common tropes really

[twilit mountain]

Yeah I mean, Lagon is just Cthulu mixed with Davy Jones

[jade jackal]

They made him smart, which is something these chtulu-like gods are also known for

smart and apathic to conflics outside of his realm

gods of the air, forest and desert are absolutely powerless in his realm, so he just gets to sit around and play pocker with his fish friends

[twilit mountain]

That's the life...

[radiant helm]

Also another thing, small but i'd love to see

Diablo like angel wings MTX

i'd pay any price for it

pls make it happen

[jade jackal]

There can be lore accurate ones

I know a figure that has wing-like contraption

we may not say his name, at least until all the spoilers are allowed ethically

[mental talon]

You and me both homie, you and me both

[jade jackal]

i think im done for today

firm handshakes

[twilit mountain]

[fierce moth]

[radiant helm]

[fierce moth]

lol I'm very chili. The 1st death, happened in fortress wall

[fierce moth]

Oh I see.

Come from the damn bad champion. Yes the 1st champion I met

I'm slain again after... Survived 4s only

The best game experience killer.

[fierce moth]

Well, I can survive in the combat with Nemesis through Nemesis have rich health but champion isn't the same case. It mean Nemesis is balanced even the combat is hard but champions just overpowered.

The champion just on the way I must pass if I want to push main quests. Cool, it's a good reason to stop playing the campaign xd

[tawny sand]

i'm already kind of bored of le this season honestly, i got to echoes and did a little bit but yeah

i might play co-op with a friend tho

figured i'd finally try spellblade with them

[blissful token]

some beast evolution are brutal

i have decided to go BM frog build

[blissful token]

Wow kirra plays sentinel?

[desert jasper]

Aight, you asked me to tell you how Flay feels @blissful token
The skill itself is surprisingly nice to use tbh
wish it had a bit less mana cost
the flicker it has makes it very easy to chase loot lizards

I kinda hate how squishy Lich feels until you get gear up
also it feels like they buffed enemy dmg,especially stuff like the spider ice barrage
next lvl I get Army of Skin boots that'll let me autocast rip blood

haven't actually managed to find the new unique axe yet

Anyway, now it's time for a break
got to make lunch

[tawny sand]

speaking of enemy dmg, i thought i was crazy while playing but it feels like enemy balance is all over the place to me

[desert jasper]

Yeah, agreed
especially early game nemesis

Just casually either oneshotting or taking half your hp in one non crit

[tawny sand]

yeah at once second you're having a good time and then a champion 1 shots you and it's blocking the path to where you need to go in campaign

[blissful token]

With the spirit step, you can pretty much zoom zoom to enemy packs

I die to beast more often

Some evolution are really crazy

[jade jackal]

Chronowyrm really feels at home here

[blissful token]

Even its basic ability, the slam hurts alot

[tawny sand]

yeah newer content is much stronger than content from back in the day it seems like

[desert jasper]

The new dryads in the rifts
Peek through a corner and there's like 5 of them
get shotgunned instantly

[tawny sand]

i was still getting whooped in woven areas, so many effects all over the screen, i'm proccing stuff constantly, can't tell what is happening, and then i'm dead lol

[blissful token]

It does feel like mobs are shadowbuffed

Or bug

Like how last season the beam thingy just 1 shots you screen away

[tawny sand]

common last ebugged w

[blissful token]

Ebugged

[tawny sand]

but nah they should do a balance pass

[twilit mountain]

I'm stiiiiiill waiting on a big player balance pass

Been waiting for like 4 years

Sadge

[tawny sand]

yeah lol

i think i'm gonna check out poe1 again, almost done downloading

[twilit mountain]

This patch may unironically be the new worst point of balance for the game

Bear can casually one tap a dummy whilst we still have shit like Cinder Strike in the game

[fierce moth]

Alright, I just find drawing on photoshop is an amazing thing because you have infinite chance to make mistakes... No one will know I have erased 18 times when I drew these lines if I spoil nothing. They will think I've drew them one time perfectly only xd

I can make mistakes for free... Hah it's so good. Traditional paintings will not allow me to make mistakes because... Pigments on the paper already. They'll not be gone.

Than means any perfect digital artworks maybe be edited on details tons of times behind but I just don't know xd
But traditional paintings can show any minor bugs. So they're much harder to be perfect.

[desert jasper]

Think in some notes they said that the dmg nerfs for new monsters didn't make it to the launch patch

But that wouldn't explain early nemesis etc hitting so hard

[blissful token]

Funny how i got spawn sniped by beast during campaign

[desert jasper]

Why yes
That does sound very funny indeed
A truly enjoyable experience for the whole family

[tawny sand]

i didn't mind the beast so much, but starting out it was like "why can i do this already when it does so much damage, why isn't it until monos" so idk

lich felt like it was taking me a while to get going during campaign too so

but i'm also just not good at arpgs admittedly, so maybe in someone else's hands it would be a smoother experience

[desert jasper]

Tbh I kinda wish I had started as warlock and then respecced to lich later

Would've been way smoother experience

[twilit mountain]

I have not died to a beast of my own volition yet (I LOVE FRAME DROPS, PLEASE PUT MORE PARTICLES ON MY SCREEN TO STRESS MY GPU HARDER), but they definitely can hit a bit too hard still.

[desert jasper]

That can be arranged

[tawny sand]

dude the like small robot enemies in the new act with the white whispy effect drop my fps

idk why

[twilit mountain]

If you can't tell I am annoyed that the game performs worse and worse the longer it's out because they put a morbillion unnecessary effects on screen

[blissful token]

Skill transparency slider and better optimization when

[tawny sand]

i've been waiting on better performance since before 1.0 lol

[twilit mountain]

How did the game run better in 0.8...

Sobbing

[desert jasper]

Tbh I've noticed clear improvement in performance of some areas compared to 1.2
but

[twilit mountain]

Monos this patch run a biiiit better than last season but my campaign/town performance is astronomically worse now

[tawny sand]

yeah some things have improved overtime for sure, ngl, but then something new performs bad again so idk

[desert jasper]

Oh
meanwhile I noticed the improvement in campaign

[twilit mountain]

I have entire chapters that I play at like 20FPS :/

[desert jasper]

The area after the... outcast queen? the one with all the bridges and stuff
that area used to always drop to like 20-30fps
now no drops for me there

[tawny sand]

dang poe1 doesn't have wasd movement yet

[desert jasper]

wouldn't be surprised if it never will

[tawny sand]

😭

yeah actually it might not ever, who knows tho

[desert jasper]

Would probably need them to rig all the player animations again and make new animations and stuff

[muted parrot]

I dunno why but today it goes much more smoothly with my squirrelmaster
Still only at 100c but at least I'm having fun grinding now

[junior oyster]

Definitely feels a little annoying abom doesn't seem to wanna absorb the mages

If he absorbs mages he doesn't absorb archers

[junior oyster]

Ah nvm apparently I'm supposed to hold the summon button

I'll give it a try

Nope nvm

He still only eats one or the other

[muted parrot]

what the heck?!? I don't even have weaver specced in the tree

[desert jasper]

Now to get good rolls on it

[muted parrot]

do you have skilled nodes that prevent eating certain minion by chance?

[junior oyster]

I don't think so

[muted parrot]

yeah it's crazy..I got two of the minion staffs with insane rolls but I know exactly how it'll end in trash because it still needs to roll good affixes. IMO weaver items shouldn't have a roll range of their unique affixes

[muted parrot]

i mean in abo tree

[junior oyster]

He will eat mages and then not archers

But not both

[muted parrot]

hmm idk, I've never tried abo tbh

[junior oyster]

Maybe I'm just not playing it right

[muted parrot]

I think the left side of the tree is skeletons only

[junior oyster]

Yea but doesn't say mages can't be absorbed

[muted parrot]

so no others allowed

[junior oyster]

And he can absorb mages :)

[muted parrot]

🤷

maybe ask in acolyte channel

[desert jasper]

Hmm... the build I'm following has these things added
that if the enemy is cursed you get this and this on hit
but I don't see any source of actually cursing an enemy 🤔

I'd also rather not curse enemies manually all the time

[muted parrot]

yeah that's what I also wouldn't want, sounds like two button build
Can't think of anything to apply curses by trigger but surely it exists 🤔

cursed blood would be an easy way I think but dunno how reliable that would function with transplant minion for example

and it's more of an option for bosses I guess

[junior oyster]

Ok I honestly hope a few things can be 'revolved' next league cuz it's a little annoying:

1. Allow us to skip campaign events
2. If we die or relog let us keep our current summons

[desert jasper]

Like it even has Pearls of the Swine
But the only bone curse application I see is in chaos bolts... but that's only on enemies that are already cursed 🤔

I guess I could take Corrosive Slash in Flay tree because that does inflict curse

[muted parrot]

hmm bone curse can be turned into aura, maybe that?

[desert jasper]

It's not even specced to bone curse

[muted parrot]

[desert jasper]

Oh wait
I just noticed it does have Marked for Death in Flay
i feel kinda silly now

[karmic nimbus]

ive been waiting this moment, got my fiber

[desert jasper]

Hmm
Getting hit by Rahyeh when you've 0% void res hurts
As it turns out

Also Flay moves you to the range of it even if you do it from behind Rahyeh and think "oh i'm close enough that it's not gonna dash"

[muted parrot]

btw was the change of envy runes in the patch notes?
I never thought they would enable us to do this tbh

[fierce moth]

I just know envy glyph

[junior oyster]

Yep

[abstract karma]

so you need to grind stability slowly onc again ?

[desert jasper]

There's a new thing, temporal keystone
but they're worse than old envy was

and feel more rare too

[junior oyster]

Playing abom kinda makes me wish I went judgement pala instead

It seems to me that it's intentional abom can only absorb one kind of unit

But they don't state that on the skill

[fierce moth]

@placid yarrow @vagrant topaz Can I add you on steam?

[placid yarrow]

Sure, I don't mind

[fierce moth]

added

[junior oyster]

Just started maps and really need to work on my resists

[sand wigeon]

Cool.

[maiden widget]

damn overachiever smh

[junior oyster]

Sheesh that's a lot of stats

[maiden widget]

probably a bit too focussed on ddps 😄

but storm bear is super cool

shapeshifting is fun in LE

[sudden pasture]

Did you make a Reddit post about the first to get 100 this season?

[junior oyster]

I finally understood how to summon abom properly

[cosmic river]

no, but i got asked to post my worldfirst and so i did

and its a screenshot and worldfirst from season 1

[sudden pasture]

I was racing you and I honestly don’t think it’s fair.

I mean, I started a couple days later, and only play like 2 hours at a time, but i still don’t think it’s fair I should’ve won

(That’s sick tho dude)

[maiden widget]

i think this seasons first 100 was a shaman

[junior oyster]

I really really hope they can implement a change where you don't have to resummon everything on death

[sudden pasture]

I think it was a paly, was almost a VK until someone passed them last minute, I think the first to kill uber was an acid flask rogue? I could be totally wrong

[maiden widget]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/ damn

[sudden pasture]

The respect I have for someone to go through leveling a primalist that fast is crazy, I did my first primalist this season and the early levels are painful

[maiden widget]

the build is crazy fast after the awful levelling thankfully

playing it now after suffering through beastmaster first

so much smoother

[abstract karma]

Well if you know how to handle "shaman class" its pretty much DPS canon..

[maiden widget]

didnt touch primalists outside of beastmatster in beta and yup confirmed

super fun

ill do another run with reflect this week i think

[sudden pasture]

I think I’m gonna go build that reflect shaman next, it looks too fun to not try, I did frog army, got a flay lich to 55 yesterday in a few hours and it’s already stupid broken, but reflect shaman just looks funny

[maiden widget]

i basically abandoned frogs before i got there

people told me to go raptor fire breath for levelling and that turned me off already, then people said its bugged and i noped out

[sudden pasture]

It’s no uber build but it’s so goddamn funny to watch

Frogs were bugged to hell, but the hotfix patched them and they put in some WORK

[maiden widget]

oh nice

[sudden pasture]

Reflect shaman is def my next build though, is it fun?

[muted parrot]

let the hunt begin

[maiden widget]

gonna level it tomorrow it should be hopefully 😄

watching some frog summoner now and it looks as cool as i imagined it now

damn

[sudden pasture]

Dude I’m tellin you, it’s hilariously fun. I can hop on with you sometime and show you the Battletoads build, it’s nowhere near done but it’s just plain fun

[maiden widget]

the tongues look hilarious

[fierce moth]

Red ring?

[desert jasper]

Man
It actually feels kinda bad using Flay to cast Chaos Bolt
just sucks all your mana

[sudden pasture]

The minion ai makes them all attack the first group they see together with their tongues before they split off and do whatever attacks they do, but seeing 9 tongues at the same time is funny every time

[fierce moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/s/HB2n8KdZ7A
Lol yes I can say it's a very long journey in hell.

@junior stirrup Check out the level of this hell process

Swedish education must as same as in the paradise for Chinese

[desert jasper]

@blissful token Okay i'm starting to feel bad about going for flay
instead of doing forge weapon build

Turns out i'm not really a fan of how lich plays

Forever doomed to play Sentinel

[junior oyster]

Hoping this doesn't backfire on me xD

[sudden pasture]

Started the harvest meme build last night and was doing monos by level 40, ive never done a build that can do that, but I feel you. Sentinel calls to me something fierce

[blissful token]

same same brudder

[junior oyster]

Lol ofc

[muted parrot]

sure, but none dropped and most prophecies are gone already

[blissful token]

i am playing frog build just to try out companion build

and i can see the potential with its scalling

[muted parrot]

have you tried the new one 1 axe that gives mana back? 🤔

[desert jasper]

With harvest?
That's like
lvl 80 or something

[blissful token]

wait since when this femur have 32 str

[sudden pasture]

Heavy’s unique axe?

[desert jasper]

yes

[sudden pasture]

I was wondering why I’m not seeing many people use it, or am I just blind and everyone’s using it on their flay builds

[muted parrot]

I wonder if that's good 😵‍💫

[muted parrot]

I saw that on the unique in fire timeline and thought the same 😅

[desert jasper]

I'm honestly not a big fan of the idea of using both harvest + flay

[muted parrot]

fair

[blissful token]

brudder... that 1 weapon have as much str as 2 piece bear set

[desert jasper]

Ah well
I'll get the forged weapons rolling sooner or later

[muted parrot]

big bonk str build

[blissful token]

true unga bunga

[muted parrot]

speaking of the devil, nemesis is love

[desert jasper]

nice

[blissful token]

btw

shield means i am on atk mode?

[sudden pasture]

Im running the cold harvest Maxroll build I wish that axe could do big things for me

[desert jasper]

shield means the minions are in "defensive"
so they stick closer to you

[blissful token]

man i cant tell

cuz, it feels like press "3" to go into shield mode

so that means i am on offensive now

the icon shows current mode or "go into that mode if pressed"?

[desert jasper]

The icon is the current mode

... I think?

[blissful token]

[junior oyster]

I'm not doing rogue but I'll yoink these gloves

[muted parrot]

hmm sad.
I'll try it out myself one time, got a nice t7 melee/spell 2x scythe for pure power fantasy

[muted parrot]

yeah I'm always attack mode tbh. Sometimes they are far away and I want them to be closer but I'm too lazy to press one more button..BM is already button heavy

it's nice for when you play safe in boss fights and they stick to the boss even if you run to the edge of the arena

[blissful token]

yea can confirm it shows current mode

my scorpy goes off screen to kill

when the icon is sword

[muted parrot]

tbh I wouldn't play bm on M/KB. It's still relatively chill on gamepad tho

btw, has anyone tried reflect? I heard it's good 👀
I guess it's ultra boring because you're basically playing walking simulator but I got nice gear already

[blissful token]

must be nice being a hedgehog

[south gust]

It shows current mode

[desert jasper]

I heard they turn blue and speed is their game

[blissful token]

if they are yellow and can discharge electric, it must be a pocket monster

[desert jasper]

well that's not a hedgehog

[blissful token]

wait..

thats a mole?

[desert jasper]

a mouse

[blissful token]

wait....wat

🐿️ ?

dahek

oh nvm

it is a mouse but the designer design it based on a squirrel

[desert jasper]

Ah
good ol' bait & switch

[blissful token]

did anyone experience fury leap got canceled and u have to press it again?

[junior oyster]

Yep

At least it doesn't get wasted like teleport

[blissful token]

lol

true

ok so its not just me

oh yea, is there anywhere that mentions why our dodge became a hop instead?

kay finished chapter 10 for my BM, gonna hit monolith tmr

[muted parrot]

going my first dungeon at lvl 91, is that weird?^^

[fierce moth]

you play frogs?

[blissful token]

yep

scorpion for now

until i can equip the helmet for frog at lv 73

[muted parrot]

are you kiddin meeee. I just slammed my 1lp a few minutes ago

[desert jasper]

Yes

[blissful token]

Eternity Cache smirking at one corner

[muted parrot]

need a worthy exalt for that

tbh I feel no difference in having 100 int or basically 0 with TRex

[blissful token]

Whats int for trex

Was it health and dmg? 🤔

[abstract karma]

.> I dont have druid

[blissful token]

Frog dont scale with jnt

[muted parrot]

phys pen.
Ok dummy says ~500 flat damage increase for my squirrel

oh I haven't specced the new +1 all skills yet

[blissful token]

+1 all skills?

[muted parrot]

from cleaver

[blissful token]

Ahh

[fierce moth]

So far so good. No one will know I edit the positions and angles of these simple lines over 45+ times and I have almost ruined the layer because it looks very clean :)
No colours because I have tried do colouring and sketching together, it will kill the work. I'm not sure the scale of these lines yet

It's more fun than do sketches on papers

[desert jasper]

Squirrels deal about half the dmg of wolves
think it's like... 65% dmg? of a single wolf per squirrel

They used to deal same dmg as wolves
so just suddenly getting double the dps was... quite a thing back in the day

Anyway, forge guard at lvl 27
time for bed
got to get up early tomorrow

[fierce moth]

time for taking a hot shower

[abstract karma]

now these fights in new chapter are so ||unbalanced and i dont mean by dmg or chaos but that fighting design..||
Like ||Aphosis fight was copy paste of majatsa just little weaker??||
||Queen was hell of bullets lol and longer than Aphosis||
||Dragon twins were more annoying than challenging with their jumping around||
||Observer was decent though little chaotic on eyes||
Done everything without jumping to monos so not exactly gear up...

weak as f.. with 12 deaths of total >.> dont know how to play LE without deadless chapters

They forgot change monos introduction clip after new chapter lol

[muted parrot]

I thought they balanced them

[fierce moth]

That's a one shot skill so I think it's normal

Possessed

golem

[muted parrot]

alright, normally I don't watch videos about builds but I was curious..reflect pala is on my list to play now
but so far I'm doing better than expected, slowly climbing corruption and dying rarely. Next big upgrade I'm trying to get rn is squirrel helmet with +3 lp1 or better

[jade jackal]

My favorite champion affix stays lightning bolts

but it seems like they all got the instant nuke treatment

[gilded elm]

Looks like concerns of PoE2 0.3 launching too soon after LE S3 were basically unfounded. S3's release numbers and retention numbers are looking incredibly bad in comparison to LE 1.0 and 1.2.

At this rate, we'll probably have more people begging for PoE2 0.3 to release sooner.

[radiant helm]

time to clean up lol

[hot crown]

@fierce moth Sorry for the late ping... You wanted to know who my S3 starter would be. Well, looks like it's gonna be a cold single-cat Upheaval beastmaster after all.

[jade jackal]

im the part of the playerbase who does not currently play PoE2 and im still trying to understand where the 96M ROI is in the Krafton buyout. I have no complaint, but even if EHG is able to generate 1M USD per season in game and MTX sales, or 4M USD a year, that would make it 24 years, and we have not counted a single dime for salaries and additional production and marketing costs

napkin math shows that this sale has been grossly overvalued

[gilded elm]

I strongly expect monetization strategy to shift over the coming seasons. Krafton isn't like Tencent, Krafton doesn't have the same flexibility for acquisitions to remain unprofitable or low profit long-term, they depend on ROI from acquisitions unlike Tencent who has countless other sources of revenue.

LE clearly has potential, and I suspect that "potential" did a lot of heavy lifting in Krafton's valuation.

[jade jackal]

Maybe this ROI has such long term goals we can't really do the math

[gilded elm]

I don't think the ROI is coming from long-term projections as much as they are from direct intervention on Krafton's part in the short-term. I expect Krafton to be hands on, eventually.

[jade jackal]

3M base sales is good, its 100M in sales revenue, so maybe there's something there

I can't expect LE having any kind of progression accelerating MTXs any time in the future, since the backlash might harm the game, but maybe future sales of MTXs will grow after they will be able to charge the studio with fresh blood

I know EHG is hiring like crazy

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I don't necessarily mean P2W type stuff. But more aggressive monetization in general.

[jade jackal]

If LE is able to progress from 2025 to 2027 in the same degree it did from 2020 to 2025 ill be satisfied

[gilded elm]

I feel it's safe to say that LE is perhaps, highly "under" monetized.

[jade jackal]

LE is super highly under monetized lol

[gilded elm]

And that's perhaps a combination of both LE not focusing strongly on monetization and the existing monetization options not actually being very attractive to potential buyers.

[jade jackal]

This is why i wanna see the transmog system and a rework to the MTX UI so bad

[gilded elm]

That's where I expect Krafton will directly intervene and try to change with a more aggressive monetization strategy (which again I don't mean "P2W")

[jade jackal]

not because i wanna hang out hours in menus and play doll, but because i know how important it is for income

[gilded elm]

Yeah, give me good cosmetics along with an actually good cosmetic system and I'll actually buy them. Frankly, I just don't like the art style.

The amount of money I've invested in PoE cosmetics vs LE cosmetics, even when considering hours played, is vastly disproportional and that simply comes down to the fact that LE doesn't have good cosmetics, plain and simple.

I have actually spent more money on D4 cosmetics and I basically don't even play D4 anymore, at all.

[jade jackal]

LE is unironically my highest money dump ARPG

next to, and keep this on the low low, a private server for a very famous ARPG

[radiant helm]

There's just 2 sins on MTX they can't commit

1 - Pay to win
2 - paywalling something that was previously free

Anything else they do its all good

i just hope no battlepasses lol

[narrow token]

A battle pass is fine if it's modeled after Warframe's Nightwave.

[fierce moth]

To be honest, I don't think 1.3 will be a season what krafton will care about ROI too much because this thing was happened until July.

But... 1.4 will be the most important point to see how EHG's ROI going

[blissful token]

nub gonna summon a bunch of FWs? Which build?

[fierce moth]

The drama is in the future. Let's stay tuned

[blissful token]

I think if EHG is to release 1st week infographic, we are gonna see player deaths to beasts is insanely high, surpassing ghost in 1.2

[fierce moth]

What EHG need to do is learn something from lessons in 1.3 so they can do better in next season after 4 months, they don't have rich experience on releasing something under this level of time limit yet

[fierce moth]

The difference is displayed from base items and unique items too. Item icons are extreme complicated in poe 2

[blissful token]

If they are implementing Skill Sigil in S4, i am sure it will shake things up

[fierce moth]

If I have rich experience in soul-like ARPG + I'm rich, I'll select poe 2 too, on the angle of a player who aim at beautiful graphics

[blissful token]

You can start with Hollow Knight . But it is not arpg

I think Hades is closer

But i dont like roguelike game

[fierce moth]

No idea will skill sigil inspire me to play campaign. The first step is disable champions to spawn in campaign

Champions is the only gameplay I can't understand why EHG think it's cool and even expand more

[blissful token]

There is always elite monsters in ARPG

Even in D2

[junior oyster]

Diablo 2?

[desert jasper]

currently just winging it and not following a build

[muted parrot]

Tbh best way to deal with champs in campaign is ignoring them and run to the exit. I know it’s not a solution but at least you stay sane 😅

[desert jasper]

Still sane, exile?

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3845830/Glass_Masquerade_4_Constellations/
Yeahhhhhhhhhh, I'm sane.

(I completed all puzzles in 1-3)

[narrow token]

I've been trying to guess what skill sigils will wind up being, and the only semi-coherent idea I could come up with is an LE version of POE1&2 support gems socketed into skills, somehow.

[blissful token]

I was thinking like soulworker where skills have 2 versions and they will alter how the skill works. Support gem in poe2 is something like that, yea

[fierce moth]

I'm a lover who want to deal with how to improve my action skills to kill bosses instead of adjusting my gears through improve dps is an important part, so play cooked builds to explore how these bosses attack me is more interesting.

Aaaaaaaaction :)

[hot crown]

Can attest, those 🍇 me into infinity and beyond. Overkills from full to negatives? Be my guest.

[abstract karma]

actually except my reckless fight with champions without gear new chapter didnt kill me a once..

[abstract karma]

Well more or less excepted..

1. LE Krafton whatever is saying, fact their reputation made back off a few % of active players

2. New chapter is nice but whole new endgame and feature of S3 is according many posts average or not usable for any players at all.. - there goes anoter % of active players

3. PoE 2 as much is unbalanced, RNG gamba and had horrible 0.2 they made big overhaul which not only bring back these runners from PoE 1 / 2 back from S1 and S2 but probably brings even some active players of LE..

-- Either way discussion below, i have seen many arguments but not what can EHG actually do or change except monetization to bring more players or have better catch of sesonal players..

[muted parrot]

I think I've never had it this high 👀

[fierce moth]

😂 😂 😂 .
The introduction of endgame in Poe and le

The funny thing is... This guy don't say anything wrongly

[maiden widget]

i mean in poe he just ignores the complete atlas setup you want to even reach reds as well while he convolutedly describes LE which could be "do all monos once, the top 3 unlock the endgame monos" and then the quest guides you anyway

[muted parrot]

just spent all my earned beast stuff since literally lvl 60 for 1 reflect chest (1lp yay) and three trex relics that have -1 skills..feels bad
now I guess I throw them to nemesis and trying to reroll the 1lp one..at least it's only one stat that has rolls

[fierce moth]

🤔 Ok...frog beastmaster is on wishlist

[muted parrot]

three harbingers left. But I don't think I'll try abby until I get better gear

[jade jackal]

Someone claims Monolith is convoluted?

Its so straightforward its almost painfully simple

ARPG players are truly a diverse candy bag of surprising flavors

You can make anything sound complicated if you start describing your actions as a player one by one

[twilit mountain]

Skill. Issue.

[jade jackal]

Insane skill issue

In the most legitimate way, and i can print receipts for it, even Diablo 3's endgame loop has more mechanics than Last Epoch, and that's not a compliment

[twilit mountain]

I betcha $5 they whine that D4 doesn't have endgame as well

[twilit mountain]

For real. LE has some amazing item design and I really like how the game feels but it has a severe content issue that just does not reflect the game being in development as long as it has

[jade jackal]

Currently my drive in LE is simple

Monkey see, monkey want

I want Flay zoomer gameplay, I want an army of frogs

My entire reason for playing is unlocking playstyles

[twilit mountain]

Deias see funny reflect
Deias walk and watch things explode
Deias get dopamine

[twilit mountain]

I will get to frogs eventually

[sand wigeon]

Deias go to the hospital

[twilit mountain]

And I have a meme build lined up that is way too expensive. It's unarmed Judgement that has roughly 1200 flat damage

[jade jackal]

I would love to just screw around with particular builds, but it would probably be to the degree of manipulating the offline client

because respeccing constantly isnt quite affordable

[twilit mountain]

I just make new characters xdd

[jade jackal]

There are many things i want to just "check out", but that would be a huge gold and time dump

compared to how fast you can do that offline

[twilit mountain]

I am made of free time, for bad reasons

[sudden anchor]

Would carrion of creation gloves be good in poe?

[twilit mountain]

We basically have them without the conversion part

[fierce moth]

+1.

Sitting in a milk tea shop, waiting my matcha milk, listening noises from random people, all of them have fancy clothing, or iphones with custom cases, or just walking in a restaurant to enjoy grilled porks or casual chatting with a dessert and drinks, I'm just can't tie with this room.

Oh my matcha milk is ready.

🙃 (Sip a bit liquid I got) ....I should buy a matcha ice cream instead of this cup of boring liquid.

(Ice cream form is top 1 to enjoy matcha forever)

[junior oyster]

I read the first half that post and LUL'ed

Like monos = open the rift thing -> choose the tile you want to go on -> profit?

[maiden widget]

hm since the last patches i always have issues when killing a beast in monos, drops down to 15fps permantently until reboot, super weird

[junior oyster]

Also it tooks years for poe1 atlas to get relatively easy

And even then true setup can be a pain

The only thing easier than monos imo is grs in d3

I would compare to d4 but I lose interest by the time I reach level 30 or so

I do wish though that we could completely skip sidequests even in normal monos

I just wanna do the boss lol

[fierce moth]

If the most popular hobby in US is discuss and play games, enjoy food is on the same level in China

For taking beautiful photos, editing them and matching with many texts to show how good their life is and attract another people to copy... The thing is all over in world.

But it's more seriously in Chinese internet

This chain brand should friendly on USD price, but it's expensive here because the price is just exchanged from USD directly. But this restaurant still here after 5 years

[blissful token]

New chapter is okay, it was the beasts thorough the whole campaign.. especially after u evolve a few times. Some of the new beast abilities are

[blissful token]

Yea, one of the pros of the frog is that, the unique resummon them when they die, so they are practically immortal

[abstract karma]

funny to read these 50 / 50 basically black and white posts and comments about PoE 0.3 changes

Zoomers have Hype..
Players which wanted from PoE 2 something more have starting nightmares

[tawny sand]

i'm currently watching the ziggyd interview with mark and jonathan and they're saying good stuff, so here's hoping at least

[blissful token]

Hopefully not copium

[abstract karma]

from what i've sum up..
Interview confirmed that they are settled with players wanna more and more zoom booming and basically soon or later PoE 2 will get to point of PoE 1

• which is quite sad..

[tawny sand]

the sorc changes at least sound really cool to me

[tawny sand]

i mean i guess so, but poe2 at launch had more flaws than pros. I didn't play the huntress patch so idk what changed there

[abstract karma]

Well first they said that they will try go different approach than PoE 1 but basically they got pressured from masses and broke down

• as developer of some software with goals in mind, changing that for purpose of having easy money is basically DOOM
  Who needs 2 games if eventually both ends up in same way ?

[blissful token]

So vision gone? Player win? I thought the issue wasnt really player power but monster was given too much power for a "soulslike arpg"?

[abstract karma]

Basically that's why "Screamers" posts in forums right now..

[tawny sand]

i'm only halfway through the interview, but a lot of it is making combos work better and more build variety by changing the support gem limit so idk

[abstract karma]

Vision is bricked.. What is point of interesting mechanics if your goal is zoom one boss under 3 seconds

[jade jackal]

Secretly... This might have always been the direction

ARPGs always, always always gravitate towards clear speed, efficiency, movement, streamlining

[abstract karma]

whole blame is RNG system of PoE designed literally for zoomers gamers without IRL, fact that you cannot progress without high grinding is what makes game
also shifting to zooming because who the f.. wanna take one map 10 minutes or more if you get from that map "nothing useable"

That's why LE doing differenlty a bit but that's thanks crafting system which PoE had from start RNG based till you had so many things to work with that RNG became more deremenistict

[maiden widget]

maybe you just want iso dark souls and not an arpg

in the end all arpgs so far gravitate to being a god eventually

[abstract karma]

If Single Players ARPG's can do that with little tweaking you can make balanced Online service ARPG..
Why always this ends with argument "go to dakr souls"

I hate souls, they are reason why there arent many immersive RPG's anymore

[jade jackal]

If Single Players ARPG's can do that with little tweaking you can make balanced Online service ARPG..

This is exactly the core of why they will always be balanced differently

Or rather, why the community of a live service model game will always apply forces on the devs to streamline the experience

This is why Diablo 2 is Diablo 2, and PoE is PoE

[maiden widget]

because you mentioned hating RNG, which has been a staple in arpgs kinda

and dark souls mostly has none and is slower paced plus way less power fantasy

[tawny sand]

i thought hersik was just saying what forum posters are saying earlier, maybe i'm confused tho

[abstract karma]

LE has also RNG but managable ? Why can't PoE 2 go similar approach, they afraid that min/mad datamining will solve everything and game will be cleared too fast ?

• then just change pace
• change way for RNG progress to point where you get something from longer expirience one map
• change way of bosses that if you put that time to kill them, you get more or less something useable..

[junior oyster]

Ngl even when Crate nerfed builds for a single player game a lot of people complained

[abstract karma]

Datamining is already at peak in POE 2 anway

[maiden widget]

i mean poe/2 are the games with least datamining iirc

[abstract karma]

There are definitely ways to avoid "zooming" in early game or early endgame

[maiden widget]

they only provide most new stuff on the day of the patch

[abstract karma]

Wouldn't say that.. how many guides you get every patch from PoE.. To point where ppl doesnt play anything themselves because they wanna have easy game BECAUSE they know if they take it too long, they will got nothing as reward back.. - RNG in full work again

Either way i dont find it strange at all that ppl complain about PoE Devs to broken down under pressure, PoE 2 have potential shift from their PoE 1 zooming

[maiden widget]

Personally you're mixing up a lot of things so it's a bit confusing to follow

[tawny sand]

i don't think that's the reason why people follow guides in poe1, moreso that the new player onboarding is a bit rough. It's better in PoE2, but even jonathan and mark said that their "recommended" gems system was bad and flawed

[maiden widget]

for me datamining so knowing new stuff early is not the same as guides

guides are also sadly universal but i guess many just want to zoom through a game with the least resistance see the d4 easy claims while following the most meta builds

[abstract karma]

maybe i mixing stuff because they are very similar in case of PoE.. Before release you have tons of guides even before official patch notes..

[maiden widget]

i mean thats mostly people bullshitting to maybe make some money sadly

[tawny sand]

some builds do kind of see not many changes or very little changes, such as Pohx's RF build, (I think anyway I don't follow the scene closely)

but most of the time it's people making money or farming hype

[narrow token]

ERHEM I believe it's called "theorycrafting". pushes glasses up nose 😏

[tawny sand]

or farming doom in some cases, like people saying Warrior is bad in 0.3 without playing it yet

[abstract karma]

Theorycrafting is interesting part where you get knowledge of game and making something interesting for fun, with some purpose or just meme build

What you see in these guides are just meta builds which categories from "easy budget" "mid budged" Zoomer "high budged"
I would say they are totally different

Either way time to something eat - afk

[tawny sand]

i'm suddenly thinking about how it's meta to get +1 to teleport in D2 to go as fast as possible, such as from Enigma or some other method

[fierce moth]

Single mode in my mind only when I do theory crafting.

It's high budget.

[fierce moth]

4 days into the new season, already talking about next season. Always a good sign

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/6FyKqyP81d

I'm far from be done still, though

[jade jackal]

This is the curse of cyclical content ARPGs

devs work 4 months for people to finish it in 7-14 days and move on

[desert jasper]

Yeah
people push the content way too hard and then complain there's no content

[jade jackal]

A big part of the curse is that the scope of the update and game barely matters

This happens with PoE1 too

I like to spread my enjoyment out of this patch simply by individually farming a chosen build for every class. I think its a good approach and keeps the excitement and anticipation alive

[fierce moth]

EHG: ....What can we say?

[tawny sand]

idk, the season mechanic isn't that interesting to me

new act was cool tho

[junior oyster]

Only reason I want to do the season mechanic is for the trex

[tawny sand]

but after i got to monos and did it for a while i realized i was pretty bored

[maiden widget]

Even Pohx only publishes his new stuff after having data which many lesser known people don't do, theory crafting starts with actual data and knowledge

[maiden widget]

This is why I enjoy PD2 a lot, it evened the playing field a lot

[junior oyster]

Payday 2?

I'm kidding

[maiden widget]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-petting-staring-im-watching-you-gif-4613862

ah right no gifs allowed

[fierce moth]

@rugged marsh Tai boba tea with salty cheese foam is quite popular in here. Just give an idea on diy drinks

[junior oyster]

I hate failed rolls so damn much

Aww that kinda sucks but at least I got my first amy

[vagrant topaz]

Maxrolled on minion dmg though !

[junior oyster]

Ofc!

[junior oyster]

Lol damn first gamba

I mean too bad once again it's no +2 though

If I equip it I need to work badly on res damn

[sand wigeon]

I've started work on a custom MtG Trigun Stampede set

[blissful token]

sadge, saw i got 20+ envy glyph and remember it cant do what it does last time

and i dont have the new item to siphon stability

oo i like this

[fierce moth]

I'm sad to say I don't have a chance to try magic because I don't have any friends enjoy that and available in hanging together always because I'm poor

[junior oyster]

Alright trex secured

[muted parrot]

all harbingers down. Group photo with the boys

btw..I'm a bit ashamed to show it but..well. At least I have stuff to do xD
I don't die often so I don't care that much about optimizing more^^
like in s2 I'll stay at 300c and grind

[radiant helm]

I'll say, as much as i'm having fun here

I do honestly think it was a mistake releasing it before POE2 season, they should have held it off 3 more weeks or so, give it 2 weeks so everyone got mad at POE again and then released theirs

[jade jackal]

EHG announced their season 3 date before GGG announced their 0.3 patch date, iirc

So, this is a 2-0 game so far

[desert jasper]

Correct, EHG announced first
and then GGG like... 2 weeks later, if it was even 2 weeks

[jade jackal]

This will happen again, and again, and again

[desert jasper]

Probably every league from now on, yeah

Also, I got the forged weapons to monos and cleared the first 2 already
But I'm getting kinda bored, not enough variety

The beasts are nice additiona nd all that
but the end game itself is just

Too monotone I guess?

[mental talon]

https://x.com/Localldentity/status/1959134891771404381?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Tl;Dr no PoB 2 update until 0.3 launch

[abstract karma]

EGH has only one option release their stuff in middle of season of PoE 1 or PoE 2

But PoE 2 updates are now unstable they can prolong or short it how they want

[tawny sand]

ggg said they want a more standard cadence (4 months i think is what jonathan said, which is how long it took between 0.2 - 0.3) but who knows

[desert jasper]

But what else to play 🤔
No idea really

[tawny sand]

tower of kalemonvo

[abstract karma]

i'm not hardcore ARPG guy which means i have tons of games between seasons to play + IRL

[radiant helm]

Then they should wait for POE to announce and announce a week later

[jade jackal]

EHG really doesnt work like that

maybe later, when Krafton takes a bit more control

good guys do finish last

[fierce moth]

hah guys I'm regret to imprint bloodline glade now, seriously. I have to deal with these extreme dangerous beasts consistently...

I must prey I'm lucky enough to not meet any deadly combos... Otherwise the combat is failed

[desert jasper]

Tbh I mostly just play to pass time
it doesn't really release dopamines or anything

[abstract karma]

welp too much arpg would cause me burning out before new season..
Too much adrenaline without some break is also not good

[desert jasper]

I mean games in general

[fierce moth]

wait wait wait... This is imperial warcamp? In autumn? Pog, it changed a lot

[junior oyster]

No idea

[gilded elm]

Also PoE1, I spent a lot of money there too because they have a lot of really good cosmetics. It's an old game but it still beautiful.

[junior oyster]

I honestly can't agree with the cosmetics in poe1 though I did buy some because anything looks better than pots and pans

Though their portal mtx is by the best imo

[gilded elm]

The FOMO packs aka supporter packs is where a lot of good ones are too, which not many people will fork over the money for.

[junior oyster]

Yea but it also doesn't help that poe looks so dated

[gilded elm]

But in general there's just an enormous selection of skill effects, portals etc

[junior oyster]

PoE2 on the other hand

Yea portal and skill effects definitely are cool

[gilded elm]

I'd even say PoE1's "pretty cosmetics" are mostly in the skill effects rather than the character equipment, because of it being dated and all. The particle effects are still very nice to look at because of the nature of builds in PoE1 IMO

[junior oyster]

Yea

[blissful token]

yay 🐸 time

decent roll

[desert jasper]

have fun with the froges

[junior oyster]

I have no idea what to spend on with weaver tree

Maybe loot lizards? But abo feels so freaking slow sometimes

[desert jasper]

I always go for the loot lizard wizards
mostly because I don't really care to optimize it and just go for maximum loot splosion

[blissful token]

last ruin or spirit of fire more annoying? for the first harbinger

[desert jasper]

in empowered?

Tbh I just hate spirit of fire harbinger so much I always do it out of the way as soon as I can

[blissful token]

i think it is more annoying

especially if u are melee

[desert jasper]

I've never killed it in anything else than melee

[blissful token]

[desert jasper]

And it sucks, can confirm

[junior oyster]

Nooo almost killed him without phasing him

But luckily was still able to kill him without him summong stuff

[fierce moth]

hoooold hold on. 2 champions are appeared at the same time in the rift cave my Jesus

[junior oyster]

I want my glyphs of envy back...

I hate this change 😭

[fierce moth]

tell them

[vagrant topaz]

Are you getting Temporal Stone thingy ?

[junior oyster]

Yea pretty rare

[fierce moth]

#1210295029323534367 message Mine

[junior oyster]

And would rather not use it as my survivability isn't the best

At times like these I kinda wish I went offline instead

But I'd have to redo the whole damn campaign

[fierce moth]

Have 1.5x speed up.

@south gust I have a question, what that moon on the ground for? I just know it keep targeting me. Is it like moon beam from Lagon?

[blissful token]

what is this Little Flying Dagger Lee gameplay 😂

[junior oyster]

I think it's a dot aoe

[fierce moth]

I meet the same case. What the hell...

[junior oyster]

Lol looks like me and orobyss killed each other at the same time

[blissful token]

u start a new lineage and the evolution's end unique will drop, if that is what you are after

but i dont think rogue class need it?

owh the stat is pretty generic

[fierce moth]

Evolutions I selected will be erased and a new lineage is started from zero, without keeping any previous evolutions?

[desert jasper]

yes

[fierce moth]

Random end unique will be dropped?

[blissful token]

this unique will drop

100%

[fierce moth]

emmmmm... Start a new lineage from zero... 🤔

I'm thinking will lineage become more interesting if special lineages give me something special

[desert jasper]

You get more options to pick than just 4

[fierce moth]

the 2nd lineage will have 5 parts?

[desert jasper]

Well something like that
it goes up to 6

[fierce moth]

I go back to be poor after purchased a bag of materials

🤔 Not quite understand how lineage work...so far

... I must record this insane memount. Don't believe EHG trust me I can deal with this woven echo

2x speed up, the original time is 1:01

🙏 Get this weaver point safely, thanks god

[junior oyster]

Pretty lucky drop xD

Although it's only +1 which kinda sucks

[fierce moth]

Let us feel the power of 5-6 dreel lava keeper breath flames to you.

Poor rift beast. Unfortunately, it's why I have died.

[blissful token]

kirra is so busy 😂

[fierce moth]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I just want to say that.

It's go back to the fight with dreel queen... Minions are flooding me

[junior oyster]

Damn I need another amy for this

With +2 preferably

[blissful token]

yea 🐸 build is pretty broken

owh they fixed the cemetery steps slow down

[fierce moth]

#❔┃ask-the-community message I have no idea why that warden come here to be a guest. Sorry, I'm quite busy to deal with dreel's guests already...

[blissful token]

lol

I havent seen them at all

[muted parrot]

I'm fine with that, not gonna farm for +3 lp2. It takes too long imo.

[blissful token]

gonna farm emp mono blessing tmr

today's session is pretty fruitful

[junior oyster]

Took a few tries but finally beat my first harby on c100

[muted parrot]

no way it rolled the same number again

[junior oyster]

What mono gives that?

[muted parrot]

age of winter

[junior oyster]

Ooof so it's either lose phys res or take that node huh

It has to be that though I think because I'll need all the block I can get

[muted parrot]

or be under res cap like me 😅

I never take res except for all res from blessings

[junior oyster]

Lol that is how my build will have to be when I get my items

[muted parrot]

normally I'd take %armor always but I have 100 str so having a bit more %armor doesn't do much

[junior oyster]

Not sure if I should put %health on this or +int

I have a base with +19 int otherwise I'd have to find and drop a %health base (t6)

[muted parrot]

acolyte? 🤔

[junior oyster]

Necro but yea

[muted parrot]

hmm I think Int is fine. You'll most likely drop a lp2 sooner or later and then you can hunt %hp as well

[junior oyster]

Boo no +2 again

I have like 2k hp so

[muted parrot]

necro doesn't have much hp in passives I think

yeah with 2k you won't get much out of %hp imo, so Int might be better 🤔

[junior oyster]

Good thing it's only t2 julra I have to fight for this item xD

[muted parrot]

for example I was at 3.2k life and got my mantle upgrade with 15% hp which got me to 3.5k

[junior oyster]

Oh damn I can only do t1 julra for now

Forgot I didn't unlock the tiers yet

[muted parrot]

can't decide what I want on my 1lp trex relic

[junior oyster]

I need +4 abom and good luck to me with that lol

[muted parrot]

gl might take a while to get

[junior oyster]

I'd be happy with +3 to start off with though

Even that is unlikely

Why are these things so freaking rare

[muted parrot]

so much strength 💪

[muted parrot]

I think they drop more with higher corruption. I have more than I want to use rn after climbing to 300

[junior oyster]

I'm still on 100c cuz how squishy I am xD

[gilded elm]

Finally lmao https://youtu.be/Q972GGaOMBM

[fierce moth]

pog

[gilded elm]

In-game market window in PoE2 (and prob soon PoE1)

[mental talon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3828185

[fierce moth]

They release in-game market?!

[mental talon]

To add on to that FAQ

[fierce moth]

My JESUS. Quite unexpecting.

[muted parrot]

RR dropped

[junior oyster]

Aww another dropped but with no lp

[mental talon]

I think you can bet it'll be in, in 3.27

[gilded elm]

Yeah, for sure

This is a big win for everyone, but I can't help but feel it's an especially big win for console players lol

[mental talon]

Oh yeah absolutely they talked about how awful it is I have a few homies on PS5 who were pretty damn excited

[junior oyster]

I've been building abom wrong all this time apparently

[fierce moth]

Definitely

Quite convenient if I don't need to switch to chrome and click market tag to view

[muted parrot]

Nemesis I love youuuu 👀

[cosmic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q972GGaOMBM ... fully fletched ingame auctionhouse confirmed for next patch PoE 2

[radiant helm]

Am i too broke for waiting for this to go on sale before buying?

[blissful token]

Big green lizard drop them guaranteed. Also harby drops them instead of envy glyph. At least according to patch note. I havent progress my forgotten knight faction yet. It will be tonight for me

Eh it takes GGG almost 12 years to implement ingame market?

[junior oyster]

Damn I rarely see those guys either but thanks. Should make it a little easier now.

And yes I have specced into lizards

[junior oyster]

Damn le really eats up the steamdeck battery lol

[rotund musk]

I think something went wrong

[fierce moth]

?!

[blissful token]

Owh the pottar game is on sale?

I dont really like the game

Its cool and nice yea

But the exploration is unrewarding

[fierce moth]

I can't afford that until now

[blissful token]

And similar to cyberpunk, items u found are tied to your level, so some ppl dont want to discover those higher rarity item early

And game have massive balance issue

[fierce moth]

It's fine... I never play 3a games so I'm open

[blissful token]

U can literally kill everything with a few clicks of curse spell and Avada Keda~ making other spells inferior

[fierce moth]

67.9GB. It can download 1h

[blissful token]

I havent touch my stash tabs since 0.1, so if i make a char in 0.3 league, my stash tabs will be empty?

[fierce moth]

I must say EHG art team and level design team cooked so hard in 1.3. It's no doubt. This is the new version of lost catatomb.
But EHG system design team and balance design team let their works covered by dust unfortunately

The old version is lost catacomb is too square, regular and classic so it's too boring. Now the angle is changed, the path is reworked, art assets are remade.

More lost caches(chests) in different types too. This wardrobe chest is classic in poe

[muted parrot]

tbh it looks awesome but the gameplay of new maps is questionable imo. Like the catacombs are so tight spaces with often little to no enemies, the garden is way too big, the map with chains is horrible to navigate and also too big and many more. I really don't like where it's going 😦
Many times I'm just running through enemies because I want to go to the objective and not fighting random trash mobs >.>

let's have some fun with ||randomly evolved beasts|| in bloodline glade (they drop like candy for whatever reason)

[fierce moth]

:(
I hope I have a build can kill a beast in 1 min so I can grind bloodline glade

[muted parrot]

that's a lot of %minion dmg

after the upgrades from yesterday + RR I feel sooo much more tanky
I might try abby soon 👀

[blissful token]

Stop haxing theiliya

And stop having fun

[desert jasper]

Fun?
What's that

[blissful token]

Ask theiliya

[desert jasper]

But you can't even have t8 on unique

[blissful token]

Oh wait, if theiliya using trex unique, then they cant use the t8

[muted parrot]

insert pic of bugs bunny NO

[muted parrot]

having a well functioning and self built character and grinding the sh out of the game

[muted parrot]

ye I'm using trex. Got a whole stash of prim exalts from farming the woven echoes but I guess they collect dust.
Maybe I'm going to use some of them for leveling (saw a reddit post that explains: you can remove affixes so the lvl requirement is as low as possible but the t8 stays which is a big boost in some cases)

[desert jasper]

See
I don't experience that

[muted parrot]

btw got second RR thanks to imprint today
unfortunately nemesis hax didn't work somehow

[blissful token]

So much hax

[muted parrot]

also..I'm playing online now. No hax allowed

[blissful token]

I am hitting emp mono today with the first lv90 mono that i stopped at

Not much progress yet

[blissful token]

Rngesus blessed you. Thats hax too

[muted parrot]

legal hax

[blissful token]

Legal hax, comes with legal tax

[desert jasper]

Like there's something wrong with me
Stuff doesn't release dopamine
things that I used to enjoy

[blissful token]

Like watching domino topple?

[muted parrot]

I feel that 😔
I do get some dopamine when good things drop like one more lp of squirrel helmet or mantle of the ox or RR yesterday but very often and in other games too, the feelings are just blank.
It wasn't like that ~2yrs ago

[desert jasper]

Yeah, it didn't use to be like that
So I just don't really play most of the time

[twilit mountain]

Nothing wrong with you imo. They've made the item chase feel way less exciting by giving us dramatically easier access to... everything.

[desert jasper]

Not talking just about last epoch
stuff in general

[twilit mountain]

Mm. Fair.

[vagrant topaz]

Deias!!

[twilit mountain]

Hiya

[desert jasper]

remember to take meds

[twilit mountain]

I slept for two hours :)

[vagrant topaz]

Need to try this

[twilit mountain]

Interesting.... groceries are in two days, I'll ask to throw stuff on the list

[vagrant topaz]

You need a tart case to bake that in

[twilit mountain]

We might have one, I can ask!

[vagrant topaz]

You can buy a roll of pastry and bake it into your tart dish/mould

[desert jasper]

Ah that reminds me I should get some groceries soon

[blissful token]

I tot the beast being stronk is legit, apparently it is probably just one of the potential enemy rebalance that didnt make it to 1.3.0

[fierce moth]

lol the game know what I want

[hot crown]

...It's morbidly unhealthy for me to get random urges to chat with someone if I hear them speaking a foreign language I can speak as well (specifically English).

[fierce moth]

Ok I go back to start the 1st combat in rampant coast with my marksman later. Supper time

[hot crown]

Bon appetit.

[worthy wasp]

😭

[fierce moth]

No way to escape

[muted parrot]

kirra be zoomin

did you take full 3/3 buffed crystallized beasts? 🤨

[fierce moth]

Alright start again, too focus on the beast and ignored the poison pool...

I don't think so because I even don't know what 3/3 buffed crystalized beast mean

Pure action practicing

[muted parrot]

I mean this node here

[fierce moth]

Oh....

Yes...

I max that...

I understand why it have so much health finally...

Done immediately after cancel 3 points here

[muted parrot]

yeah maybe that's the problem. You don't need that many hearts, it's fine if it's 15% chance imo so it's easier but the grind goes longer

[muted parrot]

try to leave 1 point for heart drops for the hearts if you want certain primordial uniques

you could also grind without and trade for them at the npc but that takes forever then^^

[blissful token]

did you evolve the beast that have the ability to be invulnerable for a few sec every 12 sec?

i see the beast blocking all your flying daggers LMAO

i think the description of the evolution was 100% block for 3s every 12s or something

seems like thats what you took during evolution

[muted parrot]

whyy couldn't it be t7

[muted parrot]

easy..just kill it in under 12 sec

[blissful token]

my 🐸 will lick the beast clean

[fierce moth]

good question, I want to why the beast can block my daggers

[blissful token]

i will screenshot it if i see that evolution again

nice drop for my frog

[muted parrot]

i bet froggers are better than squirrel but I really don't like rebuilding characters..also I like them and it goes very smoothly so why change the running system

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, frogs should have better numbers but if you're happy with what you got then that's what matters

[blissful token]

running system?

[twilit mountain]

I think it's smth akin to "why fix what isn't broke"

[blissful token]

owh

i literally read it as 🏃🏻‍➡️

i geddit now

[tawny sand]

speaking of running, when's last epoch getting sprint? EHG playing catch up with poe smh my head

[muted parrot]

I'd also loose TRex and that's...that's simply something I can't imagine myself doing 🦖
Frogs aren't nice to look at

[tawny sand]

frogs would provide ribbiting action

hehe

[fierce moth]

My Jesus, the phoenix summoned from a shrine is quite mini xd

[blissful token]

wibbit 🐸

man even the spirit of fire quest maps leading to the boss are annoying

the objectives are spread out like 10,000 miles away from each other

[muted parrot]

yep, reported that for many quest objectives..you just want to rush through but the map is too huge and/or bad to traverse.
Wasn't a problem this season tho 🤔 I think we got QoL

unfortunately that's also their echo design preference, huge maps

[blissful token]

got to emp mono

https://streamable.com/fja054 wibbit

[fierce moth]

Fine. I can't play le with champions

I can't at all.

Marksman player just 0 status in le

[muted parrot]

kirra should try reflectadin so she can take revenge by making enemies hurt themself

creating leveling gear for necro or lich

+31 flat spell damage at lvl 4 that fits lich leveling better than the ring

[blissful token]

hax

you remove all the prefix and suffix?

[muted parrot]

yep

but it can fail since removing costs a lot of FP

there are 2h weapons with flat melee damage and void cleave..getting one on a low lvl base would be nice or be lucky and have enough fp for envy and be lucky with envy

I threw all of them away bc you're usually going for world splitter or other uniques but now I regret it

[blissful token]

u want to envy into a low level base item yea?

[muted parrot]

if there is enough fp left and you want nice leveling gear, sure. But t7 flat damage on a random low lvl unique would be easier to get I guess

[desert jasper]

just get lucky with nemmy

[fierce moth]

Wwwww. Very excited to play poe 2 soon. I can't enjoy the fun from champions unfortunately so I want to switch a game.

[blissful token]

thats a odd reason to switch game considering rare monster in poe2 is scary as hell

especially at t15-16

[desert jasper]

What's at t15-16?
Never made it there in poe2

Ah let me guess
Suffering is there

[fierce moth]

Maybe rare monsters will better than champions

Their bosses are scary

[muted parrot]

coooooooooooooool, the anime warframe game that comes out soon removes all gacha and every character can be farmed!!! I hope sooo much that this becomes more and more popular, it's so much healthier for players.
Game in question is called Duet Night Abyss
I was in the beta actually and it was fun but also needed time, I hope they polished it 🙂

[desert jasper]

Ah... Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater is out if you purchase the deluxe edition
Too bad I'm not really interested

[muted parrot]

same, got bored after ~20 maps. Running around in huge maps is tiring

[desert jasper]

I got to uhh... like lvl
I don't even remember
Didn't hit 70 on my marauder dude

[twilit mountain]

I beat every boss in PoE2 at max diff just so I could say the game sucks and I knew what I was talking about

[desert jasper]

But you didn't do it with auto attack only with no supports so clearly you have no idea

[blissful token]

now you can put the green atk speed support gem in all skills

[twilit mountain]

Can't believe they finally just let us do that thing we should have already been able to do

[blissful token]

still doesn't fix certain warrior skills like sunder cuz of the total attack time LUL

[twilit mountain]

True

[desert jasper]

it feels really bad tbh

[mental talon]

Selling the rest of my character's gear in Merc league (in game) so I can buy more Alt Arts since now they're finally getting Demigod's in POE 2 and I wanna be a large lad. Demigod's Eye is only 6.5 Mirrors I just need 1 more for transfer to Standard.

I shouldnt have gambled so much 🙁

[twilit mountain]

Gamble more

[mental talon]

Nah I already burned through 7 Mirrors this league gambling. Now is actually need Mirrors to buy Alt Arts since they're transferring in Third Edict. Just my luck

All the Demigods I want are gonna be like a combined I think 210 Mirrors?

[twilit mountain]

:<

[mental talon]

It's all good gives me something to aspire to every PoE 1 league now and maybe be less of a degenerate gambler at the end of each league xdd

[abstract karma]

that your second acc that you are selling it ?

[mental talon]

No I'm just selling Mirror items from the current league right now (again not for real money) in game to recoup the costs so I can buy Demigod's to convert to Alt Arts for PoE 1&2.

I've got a bunch of Mirrored items from the build I played I'm just trying to get rid of them before this league ends because otherwise they're gonna be worthless in Standard as the Standard mirror tier Legacy gear is orders of magnitudes more powerful (I've got Mirrored Chest, Weapon, Gloves, and a Simplex up right now) just trying to get a few Mirrors and Locks and resist the urge to gamble before PoE 2 League on Friday lol

[tawny sand]

oh huh, you can respec with gold in PoE1 now? When did they add that?

i just discovered it on the faustus npc

[gilded elm]

Back in Settlers, so it's been a while lol

[tawny sand]

i haven't played since delve i think lol

[gilded elm]

You missed out, kinda. Settlers was goated

[desert jasper]

Yeah
all ... how long did it last again
like 9months?

[twilit mountain]

Uh... 11 I think

[desert jasper]

Was originally gonna say almost an year
but then I thought it couldn't have been that long lul

[tawny sand]

ah okay, i knew they added the currency exchange but didn't know about the gold respec

[junior oyster]

I didn't like settlers much mgl

Then again I have never truly liked poe much despite my hours in the game

[desert jasper]

Eh I guess I'll play some more LE on the froge weapons

[junior oyster]

Are you for real?...

[desert jasper]

kek unlucky

[junior oyster]

Part of the reason I don't feel like playing online

I probably should just go offline

Ok I absolutely hate these guys and their practically off screen meteors

[muted parrot]

whyyyy 2h sword

[muted parrot]

oh yeah, funny if the echo is full of them (it's not). Thank god that's very rare but still, some echoes are so horrible because of the enemies in it

[junior oyster]

In my map I think I had 2-3 every few yards

And ofc my abom doesn't just target everything

He'll only target the small fry

[desert jasper]

really wish I got this with LP tbh

Throw in a big flat dmg on that and forge weapons slaughter sooo many things

Though I do miss the trex

[muted parrot]

idk it might help with clear which is what felt bad when I tried fw
Still..I don't think I'll try to make it work in s3 :S

[desert jasper]

The overkill as splash helps a lot with clear
and giving them a little aoe on the skill tree

But the massive flat dmg from trex roar if you've some strength? super sweet

But I find trex itself to be a bit too slow
animations are slow
I really only used it for the roar
and the occasional times it actually did something

[junior oyster]

All this to try and find a freaking orobyss and no luck

Did I split too much instead of going straight?

[desert jasper]

I'd say there's orobyss in like
3 more echoes

[muted parrot]

akshually it's the shade, not owobyss ☝️ 🤓

[junior oyster]

Well what dya know

[muted parrot]

good rolls, now let's hope gigachad nemesis adds LP 🙏

[desert jasper]

Best it can give is +5 hp

[muted parrot]

is this poe or what?!

[desert jasper]

If it was poe
you'd get randomly -100hp on it

I'm just kidding
but i remember how in diablo 1 you could actually get negative life roll on gear
and i think one of the speedrun categories is killing yourself by identifying gear and it having negative lige

life

[muted parrot]

lol nub..WHYYYY

taking notes to never reveal the plan until it's finished

[junior oyster]

I had two end of evolutions not give me lp

[muted parrot]

welcome in the club
(all others that dropped had only +1 and I don't want that) gonna reroll them, found the echo (was it always this rare?? lvl 98 and found it once)

[junior oyster]

I've only had two drop so far

I'm bad at mapping so not much progress

[desert jasper]

Sorry
I have this bad habit of ruining it for everyone

Like I jokingly say something
And then it happens, if it's a bad thing

Never when I jokinly say "Oh I bet you'll win the lottery"

Meanwhile I've no horns or feathers to buy a new Primal Cadence

... then I've got like 90 fangs

[muted parrot]

I think you can exchange them but not for every other one. Top right side

[desert jasper]

Yeah, you can exchange them
but what if I need those 90 fangs?
What if I get a really bad itch and need to scratch it?

and only ancient fangs will do

I'll surely need 90 fangs

[junior oyster]

Also ancient bones are not so easy to farm for some people like myself

[desert jasper]

I wish they'd drop a bit more
Especially early game
and they don't scale on increased gold gain (like the blessing)

Because duh, it's not gold

[muted parrot]

yeah quantity could go up by I'd say ~10-20% but it's ok tbh. I think prim uniques should be a bit hard to get since they are very powerful

[junior oyster]

Ok some champs are definitely more dangerous than others

[desert jasper]

Ghost is spoopy

[junior oyster]

Mermaid for me

[muted parrot]

idk why but ghost was never an issue to me 🤔

mermaid is really frustrating to deal with yep

[desert jasper]

Ghost wasn't an issue last season
this time it wrecks me somehow
Also the... river champion? that creates whirlpoor that follows you? pain

[junior oyster]

I wonder if I should forgo my defences and just hope to not die

Since a lot of stuff kills me anyway

[muted parrot]

worst champs are the ones in tombs/cemeteries and empowered by possess thingy^^

[desert jasper]

oh yea
don't like them

[muted parrot]

I'd say armor could be higher but I guess you don't have the two blessings yet (flat and %armor)

[junior oyster]

I rely on block chance I think

And endu stacking

[muted parrot]

then get a dawn shield and more life

[junior oyster]

I mean this is what I have right now

I need mountain unique shield and then put the endu on shield

[muted parrot]

bc of trex? or why you want endu so much?

[junior oyster]

Abom

[muted parrot]

abom scales with endu now? 🤔

[junior oyster]

Oh and ofc

[muted parrot]

hmm dunno much about abom but I'm more interested in the flat damage per str. Sure, endurance is nice to have but not a priority imo

but as acolyte it's not that easy to get str

[junior oyster]

Str doesn't really help necro much

[desert jasper]

Extra dmg is extra dmg
and still nice

[junior oyster]

Abom scales with int not str

Lol got this at least

Just now

[muted parrot]

more endurance

[desert jasper]

meme of protection

[blissful token]

🍺 + 🐸

[tawny sand]

um, to that guy in chat. It's actually "diablo-like" ☝️ 🤓

[muted parrot]

I feel like trex is almost mandatory now in minion builds..well, not in wraithlord build at least

[tawny sand]

trex will prob get changed some if it's that strong, but idk

[muted parrot]

ngl thinking of an ARPG like poe2 and mix it with a real soulsgame..loosing your stuff on death and such..could be fun

[tawny sand]

so diablo 2?

you lost your items on death in d2

[muted parrot]

since they don't do mid season balance, we are fine for now

[tawny sand]

though you go get it back

[muted parrot]

idk, never played

[junior oyster]

Aww I feel kinda sad

[muted parrot]

why tho? it's for your t7 int you gonna find soon

[junior oyster]

I wanted it with lp2+ and also 24% mit

But the +2 roll is nice though

[fierce moth]

Do the amount of bones available in ancient caves/from rift beasts scale with corruption in your experience?

[muted parrot]

I think so but if then not by much

[muted parrot]

oh wait, the +2 roll is nothing for you isn't it?

[junior oyster]

No it's biiig

[muted parrot]

bc only str minions

[junior oyster]

Oh wait you are right

Lol

Nvm it is nothing

[muted parrot]

it's big for primalists^^

[junior oyster]

I thought you were referring to the amu

The fact necro has to use a primarily (no pun intended) primalist item is funny to me

[muted parrot]

imagine if it'd have been locked to it 😬

[jade jackal]

EHG has a lot of enemy affix / attack balancing to do for 1.4

Like... a lot.

[junior oyster]

Indeed

[jade jackal]

And god i hope weakening or entirely muting damage of affixes after their caster die is high on that list

Cheap deaths suck

[junior oyster]

I've had times where I have insane amounts of res and armour/block but still get oneshot

Or stunlocked then killed

[jade jackal]

Im running a shield bearing melee Paladin and im still getting near-one-shots from out of nowhere

[muted parrot]

I think that's already a thing but only for bosses. Dunno exactly but I think it wasn't in s2

[jade jackal]

But those long animation post-boss effects have to be sorted out

They simply have to

[muted parrot]

what corruption?

[jade jackal]

I can't recall how it is now, but imagine that preior to season 2 we legit died to echo bosses with giant UI elements popping in our faces

post kill