📚┃off-topic

[fierce moth]

🤭 Let's see will their HR reply this question

I see, this question is relevant to how the company think of that so different companies, different industries must have different answers.
Thanks for the inspiration 🙏

[keen wind]

With a tech job you can usually sort out your first experience with the interview at least, going into art seems even more portfolio dependent

Was just participating in some OSRS shenanigans and PoE is down for maintenance now 😔 lvl 99.70, trying to go for my first ever 100

[fierce moth]

.....I'm tired to fight with her. I always run to evade her explosion and her minions but my damage is too weak to hurt her

[fierce moth]

Only my weapon can increase my damage and another gears are for defense?

[desert jasper]

Oh
that boss is hard if you don't kill her fast

[fierce moth]

I don't know how to get the kill-boss-quickly skill

I even can't check out how much chaos damage I can deal in game...

[fierce moth]

Sigh, the server don't work again then I can't import my build

[ebon meadow]

there was a 5 hour downtime like 10 hours ago ish

ans they change the client on web so ... there might be some issues

seems to be working for me and i got my chasis number to xd

[fierce moth]

https://www.threads.net/@97071234z/post/DCeVXvkzKG1?xmt=AQGzex89MaR_Xv68oX_56IjrcFNbHzT9HUfipkn5H6Sotw

Super creative...These chairs express my status when I'm too anxious and nervous so well

[fierce moth]

Want to ask suggestions

[hexed stream]

Nicknames for what? Poe?

[vagrant topaz]

Kayak > Kayak

[blissful token]

row your boat faster Vladdd

[ember lake]

Racecar > racecaR

[fierce moth]

Sorry I don't get

[fierce moth]

Le

Only single character I own in poe, don't forget I'm a newbie still

[hexed stream]

Huh? Why? LE can name anyhow you want, I have like 50+ char since I bought the game and none resembles each other

[vagrant topaz]

Its a joke, a Kayak is a type of Boat
And its spelled the same backward

[fierce moth]

Yeah so I don't know which name should I use next

I don't like code names

Ok maybe use atbash cipher is a good idea.
So kirraluan = priizofzm

[blissful token]

what is this alien encryption?

also priizofzm sounds like some chemical or fansy med named by pharmacy companies

[fierce moth]

Priizofzm/Mzfoziirp
Priiz/Ziirp
Ofzm/Mzfo

[fierce moth]

Oh yeah, another request...
I want to ask which build is the one Judd mentioned by "typically I like mana stacking and world ender and just making the biggest meteors I possibly can but I haven't had the chance to do a Harbinger of Stars mana strike build which looks really fun as well."

[ember lake]

I'm not sure which build it is specifically, someone in #🧙┃mage might know based off that description!

[fierce moth]

Yeah only he knows

[ember lake]

It might not be a specific build you can follow then, but just how he likes to play 🙂

[fierce moth]

Oh Judd don't play his game as every build he plays must complete many targets like T4 Julra, xxx corruption, Abboerth etc so maybe it's not the build I want to play?

[ebon meadow]

Music time wile i m setting for PoE sitting for few hours https://youtu.be/Yd0uOSIkTzU (ur local weird music radio ) Montana is really underated its only the US drill i accept i m sorry

Also the bars and slang is just freaking amazing

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/thegameawards2024nominees

That's why

🤔 I guess last epoch can appear on the page next year too if 1.2 update is shocking and creative enough

TGA base on Las Vegas...Then no too far away from Texas

The compete in 2025 just harder and harder...5 of games on my wishlist will release on this year

[sand wigeon]

D4 is also a better game

Last Epoch hasn’t had any major changes to the game in nearly four years

If not longer

The endgame is the exact same as it was when dungeons released

Which is unfortunate, because I like LE

[fierce moth]

🤔 oh nice to hear as a new player hhhhhh because it mean I catch up the release content they did in the beta

[sand wigeon]

EHG’s novice experience and the fact that they’re “a group of passionate devs from Reddit” has really shown

[fierce moth]

It'll become a legendary story one day, it's on my opionion already

[sand wigeon]

I think it already would have if it were a possibility

EHG takes infinitudes of time to add even the slightest change to their game

And the mentality of not being worthy enough to play over other options has likely dampened efforts

[fierce moth]

Appear on TGA's stage will attract another huge potential new players if le can do that

[sand wigeon]

LE is quite well known amongst the dedicated ARPG player base, but it’s just not anything enough to actually attract them

The only thing LE had going for it was the art direction, but now with the larger games turning out much more defined art directions that’s falling off

[fierce moth]

New players means a lot for a long-living game... It just become lifeless if you can't find any new players appear and asks different questions

[sand wigeon]

D4 is LE’s direct competitor because LE’s strengths were a “more refined story” and “intense art direction,” and D4 has outclassed it on those fronts

[twilit mountain]

Pretty much, yeah. LE's big hype was launch day, which quickly spiraled out of EHG's control and then a couple weeks later had very large exploits with long lasting ramifications.
My take for that sitch is that the exploit was expected, because all of these games have that (PoE gets one nearly every league), but the handling of it was very, very poor, which caused a lot of dissent.

[sand wigeon]

D4 has outclassed every ARPG when it comes to art, writing and composition

[fierce moth]

The same game type so it's sure

[sand wigeon]

No, that’s not why

There’s more specific reasons then “they’re both ARPG’s”

[sand wigeon]

LE never tried to outdo POE when it came to build-crafting, but it did try it on the visuals and writing

[fierce moth]

What do you mean by "very poor handing"?

[twilit mountain]

LE's main driving force was "built by ARPG gamers for ARPG gamers" and "easy to start, but with lots of depth"
However the first part has been dashed because... well, EHG just doesn't seem to handle the creation and development of the game very well, and the second part was dashed because they just power creep constantly with minimal, if any, effort to minimize it.

[sand wigeon]

But now with D4 accomplishing that much better, LE has nothing going for it

[sand wigeon]

Plus, the endgame has been the exact same for the entire lifespan of the game

You need to fundamentally change the game often in live-service products like this

But the seasons for LE aren’t impactful

[twilit mountain]

By very poor handling I mean that EHG did borderline nothing. They banned the exploiters they found and that was it. They didn't make any efforts to reduce the effects the exploit had. In comparison, GGG had a MASSIVE duplication exploit during Settlers. Know what they did? Removed all traces of it. Every single divine, every chaos, every mirror, every card, every item from it, they all get completely deleted from the game and all players who used the exploit were banned. THAT is how it should be handled.

Thousands upon thousands of divines removed from circulation because they could track down where they came from

[tawny sand]

i don't know if EHG has the tools to track that kind of stuff (if that's the issue), it would've been nice though

i haven't touched le in a while

[sand wigeon]

Whether they do or not, I think it just goes to show the level of novice incompetence plaguing the studio at large

[fierce moth]

Get it, so the main question still on MG's side

[sand wigeon]

Which, I’ll be frank, was obvious because of this server’s mod team. It’s become better as of late, but still.

I remember when there were blatant transphobes starting arguments daily that we were just told to block

[fierce moth]

it's the most important reason for many players want to try le

[sand wigeon]

MG is not the main reason

LE tries to appeal to new players and new player’s don’t want to have to deal with trading

Especially when MG is post-campaign, and new player’s may not even make it to that point

The most important part of a game for player retention are the first fifteen minutes

That’s why LE has redone their start so many times, the player retention kept failing which meant their “new player friendly” marketing wasn’t really doing anything for them

[twilit mountain]

Even further beyond MG/COF split, EHG's level of negligence when it comes to the balance of their game is ridiculous.
Let's look at PoE once more. We have some balance issues. Trickster is really good. Some skills (Lightning Strike for example) are quite a bit stronger than others. But the difference between a meta skill and an off meta skill is so much smaller in PoE than in LE. In LE the difference between a meta skill- such as Falconry -and an off meta skill- such as Lethal Mirage -is to the point that Falconry at a BASELINE gets to DOUBLE ITS DAMAGE for the cost of a single skill point. That is absolutely disgusting amounts of power gap.

[fierce moth]

👀 Yeah, very friendly for me but maybe it's due to the character I selected is necromancer

[sand wigeon]

For reference, I essentially played a Lightning Strike build, but instead of Lightning Strike I chose a very off-meta option, and I did just fine

You will not do “just fine” if you choose a very off meta option in LE

[fierce moth]

I'll not stick in here if I selected runemaster or sorcerer as the first character 😂

[sand wigeon]

I find Necro the least interesting class so

[tawny sand]

i haven't played much realtime arpgs in a while. I played the D4 expansion for like a week, ended up going back to traditional roguelikes like DCSS

[twilit mountain]

RM vs everything before it when 0.9.2 came out was a crazy situation to look at. RM literally crushed every single class prior to it with a single skill, and then we watched it happen again, twice in a row, with Falconer and Warlock.

[sand wigeon]

I mean, roguelikes and ARPG’s have no connection

[fierce moth]

Then I'm no idea

[sand wigeon]

But playing DCSS in 2024 is crazy to me LMAO

[tawny sand]

diablo was made with rogue in mind tho, and then it ran off on its own

[sand wigeon]

That’s like me booting ascii Rogue

[fierce moth]

I just know I'm on the opposite with the gaslight time for runemaster and sorcerer 😂 I play sorcerer when runemaster is super popular, I play runemaster when sorcerer is super popular

[sand wigeon]

Maybe D1 was, but modern Diablo was not

I’m too young to have experienced D1 or D2, though

[twilit mountain]

Me booting Aardwolf in 2018

[sand wigeon]

Boutta play Rogue in my command console

[tawny sand]

brogue is still be developed lol

being*

[sand wigeon]

No clue what brogue is

Oh sequel to Rogue

[tawny sand]

it's free rogue basically, kind of a sequel i think

[sand wigeon]

Yeah the issue there is that Rogue isn’t a good game.

Like I love Rogue

It is not a good option anymore

[tawny sand]

yeah i don't really play it or anything

i rather play CDDA, DCSS, CoQ, etc.

[sand wigeon]

You like the old ones I see

[tawny sand]

i do i do

i like some new stuff, jupiter hell was good. but if i'm being honest i'm more interested in jupiter hell classic than regular jupiter hell

[sand wigeon]

I prefer stuff like Enter the Gungeon, Atomicrops, Balatro, Curse of the Dead Gods, etc

[tawny sand]

ah, yeah i play more traditional style rogulikes

[sand wigeon]

You should check out Moonring

[fierce moth]

Players: Go out and adjust the damn balance please, game devs 😂

There's a joke about le is they called le as "ward epoch". Ward builds just too insane than non-ward builds in 1.0

[sand wigeon]

Not quite the same vein but you’d like it

[tawny sand]

i played a little of moonring, seemed cool

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, it’s a pretty interesting project

[tawny sand]

also shout out to doors of trithius and approaching infinity, those are cool games

[sand wigeon]

My two favorite games, ever, are Roadwarden and Cultist Simulator

So my tastes lean toward story centric games

[tawny sand]

you might like dwarf fortress adventure mode

it should be coming soonish i think

[sand wigeon]

Both games have also personally inspired me, so I’m emotionally attached to them

[tawny sand]

in steam version imean

[sand wigeon]

Dwarf Fortress has been on my radar foreeever, I just can’t afford it

[twilit mountain]

Pretty sure Risk of Rain 1 is my most played roguelike

(sadge, can't xdd here, I forgot)

[sand wigeon]

loser <3

[twilit mountain]

Hey. I held a high spot in speedrun leaderboards for a while. Loser doesn't begin to cover it.

[sand wigeon]

real

it’s okay that’s not nearly as bad as practicing speedrunning but never submitting anything

plus, i’ve done some obscene dark souls 3 challenge runs, i have no room to talk

[tawny sand]

it might go on sale soon, I imagine kitfox will have some kind of sale for the adventure mode update or maybe around Cave of Qud's 1.0 release

[sand wigeon]

Maybe it will, but I have $0.83

[tawny sand]

oh 😦

[twilit mountain]

Yarrr, stuff's expensive over here

[sand wigeon]

$300 for one week of groceries. pain

[tawny sand]

but yeah idk, i got kind of into ToME4 at one point and then fell in love with traditional roguelikes

[sand wigeon]

I mainly tried out traditional rogue-likes for the history, I’m far too young to have ever played them growing up

And I likely would never have cared about trying out the older ones if my father weren’t into retro and antique games

[tawny sand]

i guess so, i only really got into them in the last 2 years i think

some older stuff is hard to play though yeah

and it sucks cause i don't have a numpad, but most support vi keys or let's you rebind if they're newer or have settings files or something

[sand wigeon]

Aye

[twilit mountain]

I have experience with traditional roguelikes, MUDs, and other/similar things. But mostly cuz it's all I could run on my laptop from like 2014-2018. I'm far, far more partial to modern ones.

[sand wigeon]

Catch me Nova Drifting

[tawny sand]

yeah i don't really put my 4070 super to use, kind of a waste getting it. I do play some newer stuff, like i'm looking forward to monster hunter wilds, but i don't play a whole lot of newer stuff

i'm debating switching to linux too so i gotta find games that run on it probably

[twilit mountain]

Even now it's not like I've got anything crazy lmao
Just a laptop, 1660ti and a Ryzen 7 4800H. Slowly losing the ability to play more and more recent games. Probably can't play Wilds.

[tawny sand]

i have a 5600x cpu i think, i'm worried it won't be good enough for wilds and it'll hammer the cpu

but we'll see i guess

[sand wigeon]

Yeah I’m only a touch above that. Likely can’t play Wilds, either

[tawny sand]

but yeah since we're on the topic https://store.steampowered.com/app/3126530/Jupiter_Hell_Classic/

looking forward to that

been playing a little quasimorph too, that's pretty cool

[twilit mountain]

Hell of a tagline lmao

[tawny sand]

yeah lol

i also like how they spell it D**M to avoid copyright

made me laugh

[blissful token]

I see Wilds

[twilit mountain]

N I am not, but thank you, devs

[blissful token]

Game Award Nominees are out

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, it's rough

I vote Black Myth Wukong despite never playing it

I will be very upset if Shadow of the Erdtree wins

[blissful token]

Wow Wilds have to compete with GTA6 for Most Anticipated

Heck...

[sand wigeon]

GTA wins that

[tawny sand]

i don't get why a dlc is nominated for goty tbh

but my goty isn't up there anyway so i have no skin in the game

[sand wigeon]

"it's game sized!!" okay idc it's a dlc

for a game that imo wasn't that good

and yes i have room to talk

elden ring is an EXTREMELY flawed game

and the dlc was a 7/10 at best (with 5/10 being average)

[tawny sand]

path of achra not nominated for anything, RIGGED

[blissful token]

Best Ongoing, D4 is nominated

Hellblade 2 got a few nominations

[sand wigeon]

good

[blissful token]

I think it wasnt as good as Hellblade 1 tho

[twilit mountain]

I would love for this to win for a few reasons. Not the least of which is I would die laughing at people who can't help but parrot "D4 bad" lines

[sand wigeon]

d4 is in fact

not bad

[blissful token]

Hmm...

[tawny sand]

ah yeah hellblade 2 should win best audio design i think

i haven't played hardly any of these games though

and i can't play hellblade cause it messes with me (I experience psychosis)

[sand wigeon]

yeah it should

[mental talon]

30 bucks for the Supporter Pack for PoE 2.

https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1858751340782161994

[sand wigeon]

aye

this has been known for a bit

[mental talon]

We didn't know the exact number we've just been speculating (and coping and hoping) but now we've got an official number.

[fierce moth]

What's power charge and what the sense of gaining more charges? (poe)

oh nevermind, more crit chance because I using this gem

🙃 Sigh much more struggling and hesitated on changing passive tree in poe than change anything in le

I don't think any nodes I connected is no sense, just which one is more important so I must give up less important one. But which node is less important? Everything is important

More life or more damage, they're fighting each other hard

I just can confirm poe is impossible to self-teach

[hexed stream]

Spreadsheet time again

[gilded elm]

Not impossible, but yes you will have a bad time without some kind of guide, even a very basic guide.

[hexed stream]

Idk why you choose to dive into this game without a basic guide, or even watching poe university videos by zizaran on youtube for a good start
It's like finishing primary school and immediately barge into calculus

A few rare ones can, but most won't make it

[gilded elm]

It's a mistake that can happen with new players who underestimate PoE's complexity. You can usually brute force yourself through a lot of other games, but PoE is a completely different kind of game and one of the few games where a guide is effectively mandatory.

[ebon meadow]

Yea Zizs university is very good it teaches u all the basics ,rather u follow guide or cook Ur builds Ur self I would really recommend it

[ebon meadow]

U can have a godlike character and still die to old DD or old volatile dead (today's degen grounds)

[ebon meadow]

Well before it was a lot harder this league we have gold to redo passive tree witch is probably best implementation since the back pack from affliction witch I msad that didn't stay core

Was so nice to have all the rolling currency there and and still some space left for maps

They really should rework or just delete out of the game soul eater it's gets so stupid speatially with this event

It gathers so many souls around becomes more tanky than Sirius

[fierce moth]

Question: How to reduce rng on affixes of a gem? Too random for finding all affixes I want on this gem, I want to know if any faster ways here

Tons of affixes in poe...Hiya too hard

[hexed stream]

Either buy it, or craft from fractured jewels

Which again, need to buy the base

[fierce moth]

fractured jewels?

[gilded elm]

SSF is hard, but there are several crafting systems to try and target mods.

[fierce moth]

I don't know any crafting is for gems specially

[ebon meadow]

It's jewels not gems ,and fracture means that mod is permanent and can not be rerolled

For crafting I usually do them magic blue roll the ones u want then regal and exalt if no outcome then scour and start again

[gilded elm]

Look here, this is an example of Cobalt Jewel, all of the crafting possibilities: https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=28&m=fossil&f=|&ob=both&v=c&a=x&l=a&lg=17&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={"limit":88}

Then choose a crafting method

You will see how the possibilities change with different methods

[fierce moth]

Holy god, just one step away....I want mine damage not trap damage 🙃 Another affixes are fine

[ebon meadow]

Bleed duration on u is sort of worthless u want to be immune to it

[gilded elm]

There's also Harvest crafting

[ebon meadow]

The good thing about fractured is that roll will be guaranteed even if u scour that's why those bases are very good

[fierce moth]

wait...

[ebon meadow]

Harvest bench is probably the best one as it lets u sort of target craft things but just getting involved with that mechanics is bad for me ,freaking hate those yellow bears

If we could have the first harvest bench man it would be so nice but it was to broken

Now it's mostly used for Gamba with cards lol

[fierce moth]

So these yellow stuff is fractured jewels?

[gilded elm]

No, those are fossils.

For fossil crafting

[fierce moth]

Where can I touch fossils

[gilded elm]

It's a different way to craft items with specific targeted mods.

[ebon meadow]

Before u think about it take in consideration that u need to know the tags of modifiers u need ,mods have their tags to like life ,Res ,damage etc etc

[ebon meadow]

The bottom ones with like sockets u put the fossils in those and depending on the combo it gives u the fossil modifiers

[fierce moth]

where can I get fossils?

[ebon meadow]

Delve

Or trade

[fierce moth]

There remind me of fossils

[ebon meadow]

Delve is my favourite mechanic in game I could play the game there

[fierce moth]

Delve...Oh...The mine...Alright yeah I just played it a few times

[gilded elm]

This is what you get

As you can see there are different sizes of resonators. More sockets means you can add more fossils.

[ebon meadow]

The funny thing it still says random mods but it blocks some depending on fossil

Those random ones still have a decently big pool to get them from

[gilded elm]

Yes you can use Craft of Exile website to check which mods are blocked by specific fossils.

[fierce moth]

I just want a jewel like that but I don't know how much chaos orbs I needs to roll

[ebon meadow]

Are u on trade ?

I would just alt spam for those and if u on trade league then just get fractured life

[fierce moth]

I still wating that guy to trade me his body armor

[gilded elm]

If I select these fossils on the site, it shows me what the mod possibilities are for that resonator item.

[ebon meadow]

Ohh ,if the people don't reply at all just leave it and move to next one some people don't answer trades it's very common

For many random reasons

[fierce moth]

🙃 ...Why are they list items on market if they don't answer trades?

[ebon meadow]

That's the biggest issue in Poe trade sistem people list things and just don't sell them for what ever reason

Because humans suck

[desert jasper]

i remember once having to run to the bathroom after listing something
A guy spammed me the entire 10minutes and said he'd report me

[fierce moth]

I need to play delve more often at first 😅

[ebon meadow]

TBF mid league and after going out of the map u doing for 10 c trade is not worth it and people just don't delist them

[gilded elm]

Another very easy thing you can do is just use magic jewels, crafting magic items is much cheaper and easier because it's 1 prefix and 1 suffix.

It can be better to have 2 really good mods than 3-4 okayish mods/rolls

And then once you have a good magic jewel, if you really want to add another mod, you can gamble a Regal Orb, it either gives you a good or bad 3rd mod

[fierce moth]

🙃 Why lots of types in this jewel

Only can hit one of affixes I want so far, sucks

......All preys(5) here, one shot by them is super easy

[hexed stream]

also, kingsmarch is your friend, shit tons of jewels from the mappers

[gilded elm]

I don't know what I'm even looking at anymore.

[fierce moth]

I wonder why your videos are pictures for me only

[fierce moth]

oh petrified amber gains jewels? Sucks that's the ore type I can't mark any because my damage is too low then these enemeies just destroy my tree 🙃

Time-limit is annoying

[hexed stream]

no worry, even till now I still can't check my dps and ehp using pob, just don't know how to configure it

[fierce moth]

🤭 You can play le for a while then

Don't play runemaster is fine

[hexed stream]

nah, LE is too boring for me at this state

been thru 50+ builds, nothing much interesting left for me

[fierce moth]

Sounds too much for me... I maybe just try...less than 20

How to judge which side is better when monsters with different colour's name is the same?

[hexed stream]

6>5

grey color doesn't matter

[fierce moth]

New knowledge +1

[ebon meadow]

Visually clear build lmao

I genuinely can't play like that if I can't see what's on top of me and I do like skill mtx to speatially the celestial ones

But I don't know people just flashbang fiesta their builds ,I can understand in a party play where u don't really care becouse u just roll over most of the stuff

It is still just an assumption and it might be between 500 and 1 k

But u still get an acces for EA PoE2 with the 30 bucks pack

Confirmation will be on Friday stream

[fierce moth]

You know what? $500 is the amount I mentioned before when I talked about le's MTX

[ebon meadow]

Yea but it's not like one pay it's u woke spending in game and it's been around since 2009

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLij_001vUU&t=0s

Reminds of #📚┃off-topic message when watching it till 2:10, "Which character should you pick"

Well it's why I don't persist in playing when I touched poe for the first time---No idea which character should I pick then pick a disliked one

[ebon meadow]

I haven't bought anything in game untill I think o had like 2-3 thousand hours ,maybe few portals

that video was in my recommended this morning

[fierce moth]

🤣 I like the way he applied to introduce passive tree

I still struggling on trying to figure out which path is the best...Hell difficulty but just the first block need to face

[ebon meadow]

Wanna riddle try look up how Scion passive tree works

[fierce moth]

Ok I'll check it out after getting up

[ebon meadow]

I love our Poe community the fact that people go out and just add these little details of lore in to a community event every video and give it a theme is amazing

[ebon meadow]

some how i managed to pull some decent MTX layout lol

i like this galaxy jumper theme

[blissful token]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587517?fbclid=IwY2xjawGqEhtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHX1OTkSH-nAFOiAl8i09P_qvgrJBRt9CW09I3JnLk59jy37Ic86walFvsQ_aem_7b5z_Hy5O5M83YEgCf4AWw

PoE and PoE 2 twitch drop

[desert jasper]

Hmm weird
Usually they have the time in your local time but not this time around

[fierce moth]

Don't need to check time anyways...Because I know it must my sleep time

They'll care about US time and Europe time only

Yeah. Afternoon for all US time and night for all Europe time

That means Sleeping time for China, Japan, Australia

But New Zealand avoid the time disaster

[fierce moth]

....I have a question, I can't open this page

Single page for me here only

How are they unlock multiple pages

Oh not relevant to Altas maps, ok

...Why I can't find a npc even I reach the top floor of this building

On the rooftop?

...No people on rooftop too

...Explored all areas in the sceptre of god but find nothing

I guess it's here but no one here

...I even can't see this achievement on achievement list

oh nevermind, the name of this achievement is freedom lol

Then I guess why this is a trick is I have unlocked it already and it's part of current passive tree?

[desert jasper]

She starts from the middle of the tree

[fierce moth]

I defeat ora's curse trove finally but I just can't survive in the last floor to get remain rewards...

[fierce moth]

unlock all rewards from the last floor in the last chance....Such a pity that nothing is value

Ok the gameplay of this map is very interesting if my character can kill everything smoothly but due to current case, it's annoying

[fierce moth]

Wow super satisfying after slain the boss in basilica...Epic!

Spreading lightning orbs + melee attack + dash + minions melee attack + rotating trace ray

What the hell?

Altas tree 2, 52 points are available?... It means I have the second chance to parve on the same passive net from zero?

Well well well indeed. I'm right. hhhhhhhhhh GGG is too good at building complex gameplay system and I should predict altas passive tree isn't as simple as I seen so it must just not give me single net to draw

I want to hug with my bed then hhhhhh
Real brain storming by single passive net. Good job, ggg

[fierce moth]

I have a feeling is I'm the game designer of my game even this game isn't design by myself, I just select options game designers provides

The issue is I don't know what are these encounters still

[gilded elm]

Scion starts here in the middle and then moves out. With enough ascendency points, you will be able to choose to start somewhere else on the tree

Scion is generally much weaker than choosing a normal class, though. Also you probably unlocked her on your first playthrough. You only need to unlock her once and it's permanent across all new leagues.

[fierce moth]

oh so I don't unlock it because zero ascendence points I have. How many ascendence points I need?

[gilded elm]

I think you misunderstand. Scion is a new class haha. You choose Scion class when you make a new character.

Once you save the Scion in Act 3, then that class is unlocked forever and you can create a Scion in any league.

Looks like you already unlocked the class in your very first playthrough before you made this new character in Settlers.

My character in the current event league is a Scion, it has only one ascendency called Ascendant.

Not a very popular class this league haha

[fierce moth]

oh yeah the same. He's the only character who the own passive tree start from that position?

[gilded elm]

Yes, Scion starts from the center of the passive tree and moves outward in whatever path you choose. Later on though, with your Ascendency, you can get a node that lets you start from another class' starting position.

[fierce moth]

🫡 oh get it. Every character he can run later like a treasure chest. Reminds me of hobo in ftk

[gilded elm]

See how I changed my Scion's starting position on the passive tree to the Ranger's

[ebon meadow]

Plus u get extra passive points and her ascendancy is a mix from all the characters

[gilded elm]

Yeah, this is the tricky part. Her Ascendency nodes are only partially copied from other classes. So she can mix different classes, but she is rarely stronger than a normal class.

[ebon meadow]

I think u get it unlock by just doing the campaign it's a quest and yea once u run through u always have her unlocked all leagues

[fierce moth]

so where your trick is

[ebon meadow]

The extra passive points and her ascendancy nodes

She gets to pick from all clases and have their main powers to surtain extend

[fierce moth]

😂 Then you spoilered your riddle too early because I'm far away from the step to create alt character to play

[gilded elm]

See how I chose Deadeye node on my Scion, it's not bad but obviously real Deadeye is MUCH stronger

[ebon meadow]

That's if u like It lol she just a weird archytipe I never liked playing her

Still interesting

[gilded elm]

I think people who like to make their own builds and play around with different ideas are most likely to enjoy Scion. She is definitely weaker and not a very popular class.

[fierce moth]

No idea because I never play this character

I'll have my idea after I tried all characters once at least 😅

[ebon meadow]

I wish I had a link to a meme video explaining her lol they are funny

[fierce moth]

oh I'm looking forward to the link then

[ebon meadow]

That's every character AND their ascendancy since they are the core difference for each class

[gilded elm]

This is just an example, not a real build, but for example you can see how a Scion can branch out into different areas of the tree very easily.

[fierce moth]

yeah maybe 1 year later or more...

I like this then

[ebon meadow]

Yea for example like maurader have a hard time getting to spell supresión on the tree

[fierce moth]

Grab advantages of different directions and cover its weakness by them

[gilded elm]

Yep, my Scion is a Deadeye/Juggernaut (Ranger/Marauder) and I can get Spell Suppression easily

[ebon meadow]

Been thinking for over a year now that passive tree could do with a gateway like the atlas's tree ,so u can hope more to both sides

Would open so many doors for new builds

[gilded elm]

Feels like that's kinda what they wanted with the Scion, but they had to balance the class and it just ends up feeling underpowered comparably. Curious to see if PoE2 does anything interesting since it won't have a Scion class at all.

[ebon meadow]

Yup

[fierce moth]

Too early for discussing different classes, guys... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOXQLKyZlo0
I even don't finish this video yet

[ebon meadow]

Lmao looks like a good video

I like the start ,witch was my first and probably best character in game ,I miss my worb so much

[gilded elm]

Seems good, start of the video is very true. Technically every class can do everything, it just won't do some things better than other classes.

And that's basically the Scion. It can do a lot of things, but it can't really do any one thing better than a class that's designed to do that thing better.

[fierce moth]

Let me complete the whole Altas map net before figure out what are they saying hhhhhh Well I need to do some progress on delve tonight

[ebon meadow]

Ohhh good luck with Sirius fight not memeing first time can be devastating untill u figure what's going on

Probably with Maven to

[fierce moth]

My mind: I'm talking mining, what this guy is talking about

Oh a boss as like as infinite hunger on difficulty, get it

[gilded elm]

Infinite Hunger and Black Star were nothing, you got some much, much harder bosses to deal with before you finish all the Atlas stuff hahaha

[ebon meadow]

Yea u said u want to explore atlas to extend those are the end game Bose's

I haven't done black start for a long time ,such a cool fight

Delve has it's own things for u to find out

[gilded elm]

There's some things you can basically only find in Delve, like Curse-on-Hit rings 🙂

I got a really nice fractured Flammability ring from Delve in regular Settlers league

[ebon meadow]

Don't mention that in racing discords u l get flamed

People really dislike those rings

[gilded elm]

Dislike, why? haha

They're pretty desirable for Hexblast builds, I thought

[ebon meadow]

They take it as a waste of an item socket since the rings give u a surtain level of the curse most of time it's better and more powerful to self cast it or just set up curse on hit

It's just a community meme ,gigachands don't use curse on hit rings

[gilded elm]

Well yeah there's other ways to curse, Arcanist Brand is another popular approach I think

But hard to deny the convenience of the rings for cheaper builds haha

[ebon meadow]

I used to use them a lot on slammers they are just very convenient

Saves u gems and buttons to press or like setting up a curse on hit

Or like a unique that had curse on hit saves a item slot

[gilded elm]

Yep, opens up options elsewhere. Really nice when your build is limited in some way or another, either by cost or slots.

[ebon meadow]

I was just playing an event once and we had a meme that if our bosser sees anyone with curse on hit ring he will find us in RL

[gilded elm]

Haha

Bruh, just from breaking a random jar

[ebon meadow]

I mostly like delve for it's color theme yea I m a blue freak

[ebon meadow]

Nice tink lol

[gilded elm]

Yeah, just leap slam into a group of jars and ding lol

[ebon meadow]

Sometimes they come from such a weird places

I got an exalt I think from act 4 this necro settlers

Thought they were locked to hire act

[gilded elm]

Nah, apparently people get divines too in acts lol

[ebon meadow]

And I got an impulsa before got to maps witch is annoying when u want it u never get it when u don't need it it drops everywhere

Actually thinking maybe building my light strike around it and just have juicy explosions

Why did they had to nerf explosion on kill chest to they don't want us to have fun

[gilded elm]

Do it, I'm of the opinion that something that is weaker but can still clear the important content is better than a stronger build if that's more fun

[ebon meadow]

Just because we were printing them like nothing in 1 league didn't mean it had to be nerfed

[gilded elm]

That's why I didn't just jump on the Trickster Locus Mine PS hype train

[ebon meadow]

Yea I don't really care of having single target if I need to I l make a Boser it takes me like a day and a half to level up new char

Ohh yea I think I saw u in Poe discord

They were talking about locust mines

I m banned from there I have been naughty and was rude to a person

Mod message me was like I don't want to ban u but yea I have to

[gilded elm]

Oh, maybe. I think I remember something about it. Might've been something related to using Locus Mines. A lot of people think it feels clunky because it has a minimum distance where mines can be activated.

[ebon meadow]

Yea it was something to do with activation

[gilded elm]

So you have to aim farther away on your screen for Locus Mines to automatically detonate

[ebon meadow]

U can't have detonation on left click anymore neither right ?

[gilded elm]

You probably could, don't see why not. Main issue with Locus Mine is that you have to click closer to the edge of your screen when throwing mines, because whatever you use to auto-detonate mines, it won't detonate if the mines are within 2m (or something) of your character.

This is the part that a lot of people find uncomfortable with Locus Mine, and I bet it's completely unplayable on controller lol

[ebon meadow]

I mean it's a fair confusion lol try explaining near by in Poe or even meters

[gilded elm]

To be fair, "Nearby" is like one of the very few "poorly worded" things I find in the game haha. Everything else is usually very specific and accurate.

[ebon meadow]

Usually it is all very well worded but there's some exceptions

[gilded elm]

Like I can't understand the meaning of "Nearby" just by pressing Alt, like I can with "Recently"

[ebon meadow]

Poe wording is probably most accurate out any game

[gilded elm]

I agree

Overall, I think PoE's tooltips are indeed the most accurate of any ARPG.

Most of them do exactly what they say they do.

And I mean exactly

[ebon meadow]

That's because there's no tooltip in game that can explain nearby u have to go to Pob and see the rings of the area

[gilded elm]

I feel like they could've just said "Nearby refers to 2 metres" and that would have at least been better even if the exact measurement of an in-game meter isn't known

[ebon meadow]

And it also depends on resolution u play

Wide screen for example have things stretched

[gilded elm]

But at least when it comes to meters, we have a frame of reference since our skills also show us their areas/ranges on use

So it would've been less confusing if they simply told us that Nearby = XYZ meters lol

I think so, any way

[ebon meadow]

And u right but for some reason they didn't want to wet their hands there

[gilded elm]

It's possible that Nearby means different things for different skills/passives, I guess.

[ebon meadow]

But its and they expetion of wording against rest of the game

[gilded elm]

Whereas I think "Recently" is always "the past 4 seconds"

[ebon meadow]

Do u know the meme with spiritual aid and people confusing the skills that they don't cast them self and all exceptions around it ?

You are not a totem but mines count as u hitting lmao

Just one of those things where it's that hardly worded it confuses people

[gilded elm]

Spiritual Aid? Isn't that the node that makes increases to Minion Damage also affect you?

[ebon meadow]

Yep

[gilded elm]

I forget, I just vaguely remember this node is popular with RF builds

[vagrant topaz]

According to the wiki "Nearby" effects range from 1.5m to 12m

[gilded elm]

Aha, so it is a varied range! That makes more sense then

[ebon meadow]

It works for every build sometimes u pathing near Minion damage nodes and it can help a lot

[vagrant topaz]

"In your presence" seems to refers to 8m only

[gilded elm]

In PoE, Recently always refers to "within the last 4 seconds" I think, but yeah Nearby has varied meanings depending on context.

[ebon meadow]

Yea from 1.5 meters to 12 there's a good gap lol

[gilded elm]

True, it's more sources of damage nodes. But also this is an area where I can see a lot of people getting confused with PoE tooltips, because the tooltip is very specific to "increases and reductions" which means that anything which gives "more Minion Damage" is not affected, because "more" and "increase" are different things.

[ebon meadow]

Yea that's another thing

Inc and more are very different

[gilded elm]

But also this is not a bad thing, you just have to recognize they are different things and the game will never accidentally use the wrong word.

[ebon meadow]

One is a sum and other is a multiplier to easy explain

[fierce moth]

@hexed stream Do you write a review for le on steam?

[ebon meadow]

Ohh no it's not a thing of it wrongly worded it's understanding that hard wording lol

[gilded elm]

I think LE probably took inspiration from PoE for their tooltips too, since LE works basically the same way in regards to "more" vs "increased"

[ebon meadow]

Pretty sure they did

Same for things like tags

So smart and makes life of everyone easier

[gilded elm]

I notice a lot of subtle things in LE that make me think, "they got this idea from PoE" and that makes me happy lol

[fierce moth]

I'm curious about what the difference between yours and my opinions

[ebon meadow]

Poe took things from D2 as well I like that we can have games that grappled to good mechanics from other games

[gilded elm]

PoE really still hanging onto them Identify scrolls haha

[exotic wave]

I mean ideally, games in a genre should take what works in previous games and use them/itterate on them

I say ideally because a lot of companies love to reinvent the wheel

[gilded elm]

They reinvent the wheel and try to call it innovation, yeah

[exotic wave]

And then act like it was a huge achievement

"WE CREATED A BAR IN OUR GAME SO YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECTS THAT KILLING ENEMIES DOES TO IMRPOVE YOUR CHARACTER OVER TIME"

[gilded elm]

I don't mind real innovation, taking risks on new, never before tried ideas. PoE does that a lot and that's why it's such a good game. If something ends up being unpopular, it just gets deleted. But players appreciate the fact that they tried something new.

[exotic wave]

"so... you reinvented xp"

honestly forgets which game that was now

[ebon meadow]

U know what makes me angry in many games spatially in Arpgs and survivals ,the debuff and buff explanations

[exotic wave]

I just remember the interveiwee being so excited about what amounted to just reinventing xp... in the action genre

[ebon meadow]

Horrible huds everywhere and they still can't add to inventory HUD the freaking explanation about debuffs

Yea let me hover over mid fight and hopefully it says what that icon doing to me so stupid

And if u Lucky and get the name of the debuff u have to go to the wiki and read about it

[gilded elm]

I think mostly the idea is that you're supposed to memorize the icons, but yeah some things might not always mean the same thing in different contexts even if they have the same buff/debuff icon.

[exotic wave]

Or time to actually rip into EO, love the series

but boy do they like to just... not tell you things

hell you have no idea what your skills ACTUALLY do

since it just gives you a description

and then when you rank them up all you get tehre is arrows from increases and decreases in modifiers

[gilded elm]

PoE has definitely made me more concsious of buffs/debuffs, I will immediately recognize a Bleed/Corrupted Blood and cleanse it as soon as I see that icon pop up lol

[exotic wave]

what baffles me is I find some people LIKE not knowing what your skills are doing

(which is how you get so many people playing EO 1 Medics and spamming heals instead of their more busted tools)

[ebon meadow]

See here I have an autopilot my eye on life globe it's just easier for me but those fractions of a second u glance ur life going down u look up at debuffs u recognise the bleed or corrupted blood u retaliate

But let's be fair that micro fraction of second can just get u killed

[gilded elm]

That's probably one of my biggest complaints about PoE, actually. The UI arrangement is horrible.

The information is there, it's just not easy to take that information in

[exotic wave]

and probably won't change

for better or worse it's "Iconic" now

and you know how people go with change

[gilded elm]

I like the more central UI that you see in like Lost Ark or Diablo 4

Because everything is immediately visible in one location

I don't know how this isn't a bigger complaint in PoE, tbh

I feel like people would welcome the change, or more options to customize the UI

[exotic wave]

Honestly the best UI is IRL

It took me ages, but I've come around to the no-UI side

[gilded elm]

PoE would be impossible for me to play on PC if I wasn't sitting a good distance away from my monitor to where I have decent peripheral vision of the whole screen.

[exotic wave]

lol yeah

sounds like PoE 2 might have the opposite problem

where you need to be super zoomed in to see animations and such

well depending on class

[gilded elm]

Maybe they finally realized their playerbase is getting older with deteriorating vision lol

[exotic wave]

well class/build

lol I think they just got bored of designing zoomy content

and split the company between those who LIKE making that (kept as a skeleton crew for PoE 1) and everyone else

which being 100% fair I can understand

imagine designing all this stuff

and your playerbase just... refuses to interact

and a vocal portion flat out doesn't WANT to

[gilded elm]

To be fair though, I think it was either Jonathan or Chris at ExileCon who said that PoE2 would still be zoomy in the end game. There may have been a caveat there, don't remember.

[exotic wave]

at that point why have a monster designer, just leave a vague wireframe

the caveat is it'll be FASTER at endgame than shown

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I think that was the caveat. Zoomy, but less zoomy than PoE1

[exotic wave]

but not "Delete things 5 screens away and infnite movespeed"

probably will be LE or maybe Grim Dawn speed

[gilded elm]

Oh god I hope not GD speed

GD is already too slow IMO haha

LE speed would be perfect though

[exotic wave]

It's not really lol

[fierce moth]

Alright I know why I need to increase chance Niko appear in map now...Sulphite spent quickly

[exotic wave]

any of the top 50 builds still just obliterate everything

minus the super bosses which take like 2-5 minutes

[gilded elm]

GD has a overall slowness to it, similar to the feeling of Titan Quest, which makes sense because they both use the same in-house game engine.

[exotic wave]

(or less for builds specifically built for skullfucking those, those are like 30 seconds)

(5 minute builds mind you just have 0 threat as they outtank the superboss lol)

[gilded elm]

I think GD would feel much better if the base game speed was just 1.5x faster

And if that means tuning down end game builds, that's fine too

Just that the general game speed feels sluggish.

[exotic wave]

Honestly I think the BIGGEST issue

is like 90% of your power comes at level 94

well for some builds it's probably closer to like 75%

now this isn't true for ALL builds

some can come online earlier

but a lot of builds are gear reliant and some equipment doesn't have a low level version

so like GD FEELS slow

...but then you hit 94 and it stops being slow

at all

(assuming you have your gear of course)

now of course some build wear greens during leveling and don't face this issue but it's slow going

[ebon meadow]

Left one is 40"

[exotic wave]

hopefully if/when a GD2 comes out they'll fix that (and improve/use ideas from other games that come out between GD1 and GD2)

[ebon meadow]

Played like that for over 5 years now I have small screen and can't get used to it

[gilded elm]

I feel like with sets, MIs, skills, devotions etc that you do have access to early are enough to make a build feel good but the game's overall speed just makes everything feel bad.

[gilded elm]

Yeah, that's why I pretty much always take these 3 nodes early on, keeps my sulphite topped up.

[fierce moth]

Hah? Where can I find fractured walls?

[gilded elm]

I focus on Kirac, Strongboxes, Shrines,Scarabs and a little bit of Niko in my very first Atlas tree

[gilded elm]

Some nodes in Delve can only be accessed by breaking a wall. Look at your Delve map you can see some areas cannot be accessed

[ebon meadow]

U basicly wonder in to darkness wher EU think there could be a path u l find something like walls u drop dinamite and it opens a path to loot

[fierce moth]

oh... Many nodes doesn't on the road need dynamites

[gilded elm]

Yeah, when you find and blow up the wall, it will create a road.

You will want Flares and Dynamite to find and blow up the wall

[fierce moth]

What is it mean?

[gilded elm]

Good question, I don't know that one haha. I never invested many points into Delve stuff.

[fierce moth]

I don't get why most of basic node I must pass is this one because I never know how important are they...I storaged lots of them now

[gilded elm]

Scarabs are good. I usually focus on Scarabs in my first Atlas tree

They are map fragments, you use them with maps in the map device.

[fierce moth]

No idea which ones should I use 😅

[gilded elm]

Looks like this in fragments stash tab, highly recommended

Do this one then, easy and simple.

[hexed stream]

no, I never write review for any game

[fierce moth]

🐸 I can understand why many players said the end game of le is too boring now, if you get used to figured out which encounters you needs in your maps to do something always, yeah le is too boring because it only can do prophecies.
poe's base is super thick...

I don't have much feeling on how boring monolith farming in le before and find it's interesting because I touch this thing for the first time

😂 The altas map can take you a few night to figure out definitely if you want to figure out all types of encounters

[hexed stream]

man, curse immunity is so sick, equally as sick as ele ailment immunity

[fierce moth]

This cover mean curse immunity? just hunted by this monster and I can't kill it even I throwed mines consistently

[nocturne fog]

Proximity shield - you need to be inside the dome to damage.

[fierce moth]

🙃 Her health just don't reduce

Alright then it's armor issue

[hexed stream]

no, it's you being outside the bubble issue

[fierce moth]

being inside means I must afford its melee attack

[nocturne fog]

Maybe, but being outside means you do 0 damage to it or other mobs inside.

[fierce moth]

I want to know how to deal with this boss...

The arena looks like a clock mechanic that I can't walk around her the whole circle or something else? No idea how am I slain... Just many little orbs be summoned from connected mini circles up and down then I'm died 😅

[hexed stream]

are you following a guide?

[fierce moth]

🙃 People just show how powerful their gears is

I can't learn anything on checking out their records on youtube

[gilded elm]

There's a lot of guides that will teach you boss mechanics

Just need to look for them specifically

There's also a lot of new player leveling, mapping and build guides that only talk about things relevant to what you're trying to do.

PoE Vault (run by Icy Veins) is actually quite good for looking up various guides https://www.poe-vault.com/guides

You can filter the guides by category

Of course there's also the wiki which is often very detailed about everything, so you can learn almost everything about that boss from the wiki https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Venarius

[fierce moth]

I want to know the boss mechanic but the research gives me build guides...

[gilded elm]

Yeah PoE-Vault is mostly just build guides and systems guides (like different crafting, end game systems etc)

If you want to learn boss mechs, you should YouTube the specific boss name + "poe" or look them up in the wiki

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=poe+venarius+guide

[fierce moth]

😅 ...Alright nothing special I can find on youtube to help me learning what are these circles for

I just know this boss will shoot double rays and rotating them in a period

Nothing tell me what are these visual effects means

[gilded elm]

Which map is it btw? Is it Cortex?

[fierce moth]

Twisted Distant Memory

[gilded elm]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=path+of+exile+Twisted+Distant+Memory That should have more useful videos

Using the exact map name helps haha

First video I found explains all of the mechanics from your screenshots.

I didn't know, but Maxroll apparently has boss guides too. I should've known... because I used to use Maxroll a lot back when I used to play Lost Ark https://maxroll.gg/poe/category/bosses

But this is a minor boss I think, so there's no guide for it on Maxroll

[fierce moth]

🙃 ...I want to know how to survive when my damage not enough to one shot her but unfortunately, no one willing to show a video like that

[gilded elm]

Well the videos teach you how to survive the mechanics, but the reality is that these boss fights are not designed to take a long time. You either have the damage to kill the boss quickly or you don't, and if you don't then it probably means you're not ready to fight that boss yet.

[fierce moth]

🙃 Now I'm stick on the ambush from groups of enemies on the road and always no idea why I'm died. I still can be frozen even I wear 100% avoid to be chilled boots

[gilded elm]

Chill and Freeze are different. You need Freeze Avoidance or Freeze Immunity for that.

[fierce moth]

Too many enemies is sure

[gilded elm]

I'm guessing that boss fight is probably designed for someone with 300k-500k DPS

Most people don't play any builds that do less than a few million DPS at where you are in the game currently.

For example, this is a list of level 85 characters in the SSF Settlers league (so no trading) and they do millions of damage per second.

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlersssf/?max-level=85&sort=dps

If you look at your character in PoB, what is your DPS?

[fierce moth]

lol wait...My damage increases a lot after I give up this gem because I change my boots

[fierce moth]

Alright no chance now...But I increase my damage a lot. I can't check out my build because "private profile" bug. Just search kirraluan or kirraluan#4349 then you'll know

[gilded elm]

The "bug" is because of the account name. You have to add the numbers in the import field now, the "#4349" part

[hexed stream]

the issue is, you're trying to learn every little thing of this game, so now I ask you, are you ready to spend at least 10000 hours to do that?>

or just save the effort and learn the key things which will take 500-1000h at most

[hexed stream]

like this thing, I will never bother to learn what it is

my job is to reduce enemy's life to 0, not learning that thing

[fierce moth]

Don't work still

[hexed stream]

Of course they won't, they are not stupid, nor masochistic, what they will do is to farm easier contents for currency, upgrade gears, and come back later

There's just no reason to brute force difficult content when you're weak, it's always better to come back when you're ready

Idk, I think your approach to playing poe is very wrong on many fronts, it's as if you're not playing it, but rather researching it academically

[gilded elm]

Oh, you probably need to update PoB

[hexed stream]

Pob got updated twice today

[gilded elm]

Yeah

[hexed stream]

A side effect of the new account upgrade is that I can't find the loot filters of the streamers anymore

Have to properly learn how to use filterblade now

Not that I do anything complicated, just choose uber strict, set the theme I like, and done 😂

[gilded elm]

You can still look up the most popular filters fairly easily and track down what the discriminator is for the creator's account https://www.pathofexile.com/item-filter/ladder/follower

[hexed stream]

Man, the build I'm playing is so fun I probably will look for something similar in poe2

[gilded elm]

I just want to know what gameplay pacing feels like with end game builds.

[hexed stream]

I assume still zoom zoom, but with better graphics come better solution for screen clutter by skill effects

Can't see $h!t in poe1

[fierce moth]

Tried the latest version (software), don't work for me

Host code is lacked issue

I admit le do better than poe on build planner

Through it's not relevant to dev team, it's community side

I still don't figure out how to max my damage... Just spent 2mins for just killing double spiders come from harvest to get yellow crystals. Super crazy that their health is the same even I never stop to attack

[fierce moth]

Because I just play maps whatever on my hands, I don't own many maps to play now...Only double tier10+ maps I own 🙃

[hexed stream]

Your atlas is set up for atlas completion? You buy maps from kirac? You use scouting reports often?

[fierce moth]

Yeah run out scouting reports... Valid map stash. The current Kirac mission is tier 10 only because I get that from a tier 10- map.

For atlas passive net:

My progress on completing the whole atlas map net is messy or chaos or disaster indeed

The only thing I run well so far is my kingsmarch 😂

[hexed stream]

This starter atlas is wrong

For a start, you can google tuna 3.25 starter atlas

Also no idea why you waste the 2nd atlas tree, that and the 3rd one should not be touched until you have at least 2 voidstones

[fierce moth]

😅 ...I have no idea why not I don't use the second atlas net too

[hexed stream]

Also, don't use scouting reports indiscriminately, every time you use, you buy all the chisel, then buy all the incomplete maps, before you use the next report

Prioritize explorer report up to t10, and from t11 onwards you have to use vaal scouting reports

Either that or vaal orb t11+ maps manually after you alc them

[fierce moth]

vaal scounting report...Ok I never see that

[gilded elm]

You can do easier maps, like white maps, to farm scouting reports if you're struggling with harder maps.

[gilded elm]

Another trick that I like to do with red map atlas progression is using Alt Orb + Regal + Vaal Orb to try and create "easy" red maps that count towards Atlas progress.

[ebon meadow]

Found this when was going thru my pics on phone xdd

[fierce moth]

Wait, where can I create red maps?

[gilded elm]

Same way you craft anything, using currency

I just crafted that redmap

Easy map for atlas progression

[ebon meadow]

Also that Poe hideouts in a nutshell

[gilded elm]

I think I actually have that mount

Might be the blue haired one, dunno

But I only ever used the golden cloud mount, it was actual P2W

[ebon meadow]

gokus cloud yea

And yes the unicorn variants were blue to

I like the Luffy costume from one piece to can't remember who had it

[fierce moth]

?... I just know benching table

[ebon meadow]

That was my favourite still

[ebon meadow]

He means the orbs they are crafting items more than currency

[fierce moth]

hah?

[ebon meadow]

Crafting bench uses the currency for specific mods but the orbs on their own it's the basic crafting items

[gilded elm]

They are currency because they are crafting items. They only have value because of what they can do.

[ebon meadow]

Yup

[ebon meadow]

If u use a Vaal orb on a map it corrupts it and can have different outcomes

Same if u use It on item (some exceptions)

[gilded elm]

This is just a Normal red map. But if I use a Transmute orb on it... it becomes a Magic red map.

[fierce moth]

oh these orbs can improve everything except map tiers :(

I want high tiers

[ebon meadow]

Not sure if vaaling can add a tier to map but it could change it to another map

[hexed stream]

Kirac sells tons of high tier

[gilded elm]

You should be buying maps from Kirac, yes.

[ebon meadow]

U were gonna do some delving u can get red Maps from temples there

[gilded elm]

Kirac's shop will reset when you start a new Kirac mission.

The shop is refreshed at the exact moment the open the Kirac mission map

So you don't even need to complete the mission

[fierce moth]

No red maps

[ebon meadow]

But yea if u set Kirac on atlas tree in middle and then grab lower nodes that give u +1 to map tiers it's probably easier

[hexed stream]

Need to buy chisel every single time too

[gilded elm]

Chisels are good to yeah

You maybe aren't getting red maps because you still don't have enoguh yellow map progress?

[hexed stream]

And also not enough 1 tier higher nodes in the atlas tree

The starter atlas was wrong

[fierce moth]

My atlas tree

[hexed stream]

Too many missing

[gilded elm]

Yeah I mentioned the Kirac nodes before #📚┃off-topic message

[ebon meadow]

Do u have a map stash tab or can u screen shot Ur map pool I m interested in Ur sustain

[hexed stream]

Don't think map tab was purchased yet

[ebon meadow]

I d thought so to but u never know lul

[fierce moth]

Don't purchase it yet

[ebon meadow]

Tabs go on sale twice a month

[gilded elm]

Maps are probably manageable in normal stash tabs before you get voidstones

But yeah this past weekend was the stash tab weekend sale. There won't be another sale for 3 more weeks.

[ebon meadow]

Depends on how much u play I can probably fill couple of quads of white maps I never liked to 3to1 them of I can get profit

[fierce moth]

😱 I miss it perfectly

[ebon meadow]

Currency is the most important tab u probably need rest is depending on Ur interest and experience

[gilded elm]

I've only gotten one voidstone this league and mostly been playing SSF (sort of) but this is what it looks like, very useful to have.

[fierce moth]

I owned currency tab

[gilded elm]

Yeah Currency is #1 most important tab, so that was a good choice.

[ebon meadow]

Smart decision,it piles up so fast

[gilded elm]

#2 most important is Maps tab

#3 is Fragments tab

That's it for "very important"

[ebon meadow]

Currency tab and maybe a premium or an upgrade is what u need to get started

Premium is for listing trades I think upgrade from normal to premium is like 1$

[fierce moth]

lol... My choice is far away from these important choice.
Currency/unique/divide cards

[gilded elm]

Many people might even tell you Unique is the LEAST important haha

But I have 2 unique tabs because they look nice

[ebon meadow]

Divines ok but uniques it's mostly for people that go for 100 % collecting all of them

[gilded elm]

And it's convenient, but completely unnecessary

[ebon meadow]

U can only fit one unique of each type there

[gilded elm]

I like having 2 unique tabs just to organize uniques into, that way I can have 2 of each unique in their own tabs

[fierce moth]

Yeah I like collecting unique items, the habit from playing le

[ebon meadow]

We all do don't worry

[gilded elm]

yeah unique tab will save you A LOT of space if you do like collecting them

[ebon meadow]

They always interesting to see first time also make good sound when drop

[gilded elm]

Premium Stash Tab is probably next most important after Fragments if you want to be able to sell stuff on the PoE website. You cannot list stuff for sale without a Premium tab.

[ebon meadow]

I collect them for dumb reason of thinking oh I might want to make a build that I can use this

Then u end up with 200 + tabs in standard

[gilded elm]

Yeah, that's why I just stuck with 2 unique tabs and any extras I just delete if they're bad uniques, unless they're rolled better than the ones I've already collected.

[ebon meadow]

Well u can it's just a pain in the ass ,there's a place in forum for that but I m not even sure people use it anymore

It always get mention so I asume it's still used

[gilded elm]

Better to pretend that form of trading doesn't really exist haha

So few people do it.

[ebon meadow]

Yes it's to much time consuming and brings back the thing of I just want to play instead of sitting on spreadsheets and forum lol

[gilded elm]

It's like the old days of trading D2 items on D2JSP

[ebon meadow]

I very vagly remember those days and I played offline internet in Russia was not a thing back then

I went hard in to gaming like 8 years ago,was a party guy

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I hate that I'm old now lol

[ebon meadow]

I played a lot of wow and he'll lot of COD on console

470+ days played in MW2 XD

Never go back to console unless I can get dualshock2 for ps

Friends pulled me in to LoL when I was almost 25 and I just went very very hard on gaming

[ebon meadow]

We say that ,then think on what caind of sessions we do in Poe at league start

And hype like children to

I still shake on league start before Q hits

Ziz is bad influence to lol having him on second stream made hours go so fast and he used to do stupid sessions

[maiden widget]

ngl i am kinda happy that i mostly grew up without cameras and social media everywhere

not too sad about being "old"

[ebon meadow]

Ohh me to ,the thing of not having the tools that we have today for finding any sort of info and I u really wanted to learn it u would have to rather hit the books or ask someone felt nice

Now today everyone knows everything because the think they can Google and read the info

First u need to learn how separate wrong info from right one lol

Fortunately my family had a huge library at home probably around 5 k books and I loved enciclopedias speatially the animal ones

Same for movies I had a cupboard full of VHS

[mental talon]

So many people gonna be running around with this in the Early Access lmao

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8a7grro1w

[ebon meadow]

my card was already sliding in before that xdd

i l pay for poe2 its fine if it helps in anyway , i m expecting to pull hours and hours out of it

and the first one

unless diablo 4 goes on crazy sale i m rotating between poe 1 and 2 an le

should cover the wole year easyly

want to see more bioms/zones and monster types from LE in future though i m happy with just that

new class archy would be drop from the heaven but runemaster already got me sold

maaan why do i get this life rolls on low items always

i can actually use that as well

[fierce moth]

@gilded elm Do the rule of fresh maps from Kirac shop is I only can get red maps when I get a red map mission?

That's the reason I'm worried about redoing yellow or white maps don't help the consistency of my progress

[hexed stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56RsNBiCxtM
watch this to understand more about how to start your atlas

[gilded elm]

Well you should run the yellow maps you have because you have a chance to receive a connected map, that should be part of the Atlas nodes you selected.

I forgot, you can also use vendor recipe to get higher tier connected maps, I think

[fierce moth]

oh...I get it. You want to say none of my atlas paths is focus on something so it's a chaos

[hexed stream]

yes, when you start, it should be all about connecting maps, 1 tier higher, scouting reports

[fierce moth]

😂 Yeah classic mistake for beginners, want to try everything then lost in which one should they try

[fierce moth]

And do the map device only can run one of atlas net so I can select apply the first one or the second one on that?

[gilded elm]

You should probably always be using a "Kirac-focused" Atlas tree while you are progressing through most of your Atlas

[fierce moth]

oh ok I don't know what that change mean for me hhh

[gilded elm]

It means your Atlas tree should focus on these nodes for progression to maximize map/scouting report drops and Kirac mission count

And you should be crafting your maps, turning normal maps into rare

Or at the very minimum, you should craft them as magic

But red map progression requires the red map to be rare and corrupted so for red maps you have to craft them

So your red map has to look like this or it doesn't count toward Atlas progress.

[fierce moth]

well I never know what bonus mean...Ok so it mean completed

I have thought just need to kill the map boss for the first time then this map is done

...So I rush to kill map bosses always

[gilded elm]

No Bonus = No Atlas Skill Point

[fierce moth]

oh....Never know this relationship

[hexed stream]

seem like you wasted a lot of maps this way

[fierce moth]

Yeah wasted many maps because my damage is too poor/my defence is too poor/ I don't know what's going on

Classic triple questions on the process 😂

[hexed stream]

actually I don't even know how you struggle yellow maps

feeling rich

and the same map

[desert jasper]

I'm jealous

[fierce moth]

👀
Titan quest 2's demo is leak on the internet without any announcements about its demo open to play

[hexed stream]

coz it's not open to play yet

[fierce moth]

Yeah that's problem

[hexed stream]

there are 2 versions: demo playable during gamescom in germany 2 months ago, then there's a short close beta not sure already finish or still going on

[gilded elm]

Divine Paladin looks quite good

[hexed stream]

this is the best, nameless seer in mesa map
finally I can scry it to jungle valley

[fierce moth]

Immersing in the surrounding of historical architectures in the city I'm live in

Can say this area is the old money where lives in because it's the origin of this city

[mental talon]

Less than 7 hours until the PoE 2 live stream

[desert jasper]

Aye
Looking forward to it

[ebon meadow]

Here where I live every town and city has the old town part witch is usually the first town that was build when it started so they keep old buildings under protection

[ebon meadow]

And @fierce moth regarding maps completion ,easier explanation there's 3 colours white ,yellow and red . White can be completed with lets say no rarity so white(magic so blue apparently I m to lazy to read ) ,yellow have to be completed in rare so yellow and red ones have to be completed red witch means rare and corrupted

The colours are related to difficulty and rarity for completion

Then there's t17 witch I think are purple that's just the last tier ,also theres boss maps like guardian maps they just speatial ones and don't count for like atlas completion example guardian maps like maze of minotaur etc

[desert jasper]

White maps do need to be magic so blue @ebon meadow

[ebon meadow]

Do they ?

Wait xd

[placid yarrow]

yes

[ebon meadow]

I always do my maps magic I never thought they had to be magic for completion

Well let's use the old meme that I can't freaking read since it will be stated in game lol

Why don't just make the freaking icon on them blue then

Makes sense to other way they just skip a tier from white to rare ,white is counted as campaign then

Or like any act zone

[hexed stream]

regardless, I always alc my t1-10 maps, and t11 is vaal scouting or alc+vaal

[fierce moth]

when are you start to play poe?

[sand wigeon]

yeah, i always alch my maps, even just white ones

alchs are so easy to get it doesn't really matter

[fierce moth]

Full name please...What's alchs...

[hexed stream]

me? affliction league

[fierce moth]

which build is your first one to play?

[hexed stream]

guardian srs the legendary build, but I heard it's dead

the key is to always choose a beginner friendly build to start everything

[fierce moth]

oh yeah...Never search if my build beginner friendly... Let me check it out

[hexed stream]

if you don't really know, just play deadeye lightning arrow
https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/lightning-arrow-deadeye-league-starter

it's the go to build for almost every new poe player, which, I never touch 😅

[sand wigeon]

orbs of alchemy

oh someone posted a screenshot

i'm blind, apologies

[fierce moth]

😅 I even no idea what the difference between wards and energy fields

Reddit seems that issued, I can't open

[desert jasper]

Yes, reddit is under attack currently

[fierce moth]

oh no

Down for 16h? Amazing 🤔

[fierce moth]

Oh so I still can use ward to protect my health, just can't use es. This is the most important info I ever learn

[hexed stream]

yeah, but ward takes a few sec to recover

[fierce moth]

? I use a vaal orb to craft a red map then it become rare immediately

[hexed stream]

it has a chance, but not always

so you still want to alc then vaal

[desert jasper]

Oh man
Not sure I can stay awake for the poe2 stuff
Already feel like sleeping but it's only about to be 7pm

Maybe if i'll keep myself busy with some games

[fierce moth]

😂 Found gameplay from unique maps +1

Mao kun is done just now, I love lots of orbs the boss gives me by eight booty chests

Found the first divide orb here

[exotic wave]

How much longer?

[fierce moth]

🙃 Holy damn, the map nerf my arrmor then...Easier to be slain by physical damage

[mental talon]

2 more hrs

[exotic wave]

Thanks

[fierce moth]

I'm too late to learn poe exactly...These streamers are ready to watch poe 2 announcement stream with their rich experience to make guessing for different new contents, it mean I can understand what will they talking about rarely because they must uses current contents from different builds to do analysis...

And I'll face an important question is should I focus my money to poe 2 or keep playing poe 1

With rich experience from poe, these masters must master at poe 2 quickly too

[exotic wave]

Just go to PoE 2

[maiden widget]

most things you get in poe1 will transfer to poe2

if you have fun in poe1 theres no reason not to keep going

[fierce moth]

keep going 1 or 2

[maiden widget]

1 as 2 isnt released for a while anyway

[hexed stream]

lol, I realize, to import char to pob, you have to change the # to %23

[fierce moth]

Holy god...I can import my build then

Appreciated the info

But then new issue is appeared

The game is down after 15 mins. Today is done too

[mental talon]

Ladies and gentlemen, 1 hr

[ebon meadow]

U can play both or play witch ever u like more because the games will be different including the movement style and yea if nothing change u can have MTX in both game they are shared

And now with the account changes u can even play Ur pc account on a console somehow it's called cross play lol

I have different understanding as for crossplay for me it's when console can play with PC people

Like Albion

[hexed stream]

or d4

[ebon meadow]

Stream is up already in case people going to bed and want to leave it on

[ebon meadow]

Update PoB and the #works now just got a confirmation

[hexed stream]

another update?

I'n on 2.49.2 and still have to use %23

[gilded elm]

This is latest, you're good if you have this

I can use #

[hexed stream]

oh nvm it works now

but darn, patch takes forever to download

at this rate I'll be playing poe2 before poe1

[ebon meadow]

It's actually fast patch up but I guess the update server got overloaded with people

[ebon meadow]

lets go bois and gals

god damn the cinematic was amazing

[hexed stream]

fk they say even as beta, it's a big game

[desert jasper]

Oh
It looks so good

[exotic wave]

RIP lol

[jade jackal]

So far, just wow

[hexed stream]

RIP stream

[jade jackal]

Im not surprised Twitch's servers are imploding on the stream

[desert jasper]

Ah well
gives me good time to sleep
and catch it tomorrow

[fierce moth]

It go normally now

I have to sleep too unfortunately

[ebon meadow]

ye it was down for couple of minutes

i here like a 10 year old child getting exited as hell

one coment i read from chat "stop humiliating Blizz" xdd look at the amount of mechanics at launch and now compare to d4

still rude though

[jade jackal]

im gonna need a cigarette after this showcase

And i never smoke

god damn

[ebon meadow]

I m outside with a blunt couldnt hold it anymore

I am literally feeling like a child on Christmas it has been so long

The fact they mention that even Devs don't know all the outcomes from supports combos is just amazing

[jade jackal]

This might be the greatest ARPG game showcase ever made

Ive never seen anything like this

[ebon meadow]

it was planned for long ISH time and well actually beeing executed

[jade jackal]

This isn't just a giant infodump showcase

The visuals, animations, sounds and places

absolutely phenomenal

[ebon meadow]

well we have been lab rats for the game since 2009 (not in my case i think i started like 2015) constantly adapting to content and changes every 3-5 months

devs were just smart enough to consider everything as feedback for a better game

and also adapting to generations of players

XDDD wink

yea theres no way beating this u just go along side it

[mental talon]

Yeah...

Peak is back

[exotic wave]

lol so how many of you are going to end up with 2 keys?

figures this place is a good sample size for predicting how many in general will

[exotic wave]

marks down PaPi as an easy mark

[ebon meadow]

and i think i know few people that would get like 4 keys xdd

[exotic wave]

SAAAAME

[restive geyser]

damnnnn

my account is over the threshold and I don't even have access 😦

[exotic wave]

it'll probably be rolled out over the next couple of weeks

[ebon meadow]

i dont actually know when they get send to be fair

[restive geyser]

https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account/early-access

check here

[exotic wave]

first day is a wash

[restive geyser]

people have it already

[ebon meadow]

i dont have acces neither sadge but i think it will be rolled out in these weeks

[mental talon]

I will have 2 keys because Im probably buying a bigger pack to gift a friend

[round pebble]

sanctum in poe2 😴 LOGOUT

[ebon meadow]

i m still getting a suporter anyway xdd

[ebon meadow]

i can adapt copium

[restive geyser]

man, our friendship has never died, bestie

[mental talon]

All the things I enjoy are in

I have in fact, won

[round pebble]

If it's actually a skill based mechanic I might like it but if its like PoE1 where you just offscreen everything on a glass cannon build, I'm out. boring as hell

made a sanctum farmer last league and it was the most boring thing I ever did. sold the build because it was so boring

[ebon meadow]

i know i have played the league lol but i think i can adapt to that mechanic and it also depends on interaction

[round pebble]

run up, offscreen, next room 🛌

[ebon meadow]

like how much i actually have to use it and brain about it

[round pebble]

I'm sure all the "sanctum enjoyers" will change their minds when they actually have to dodge things in poe2 🤭

[ebon meadow]

i really need to try before i can judge it , but it does raise alarms in me i really dont like Sanctrum

but i m one of those people "i just like to kill monsters mate" the more the marier

open zone start killing click things kill more kill boss exit and repeat

[round pebble]

Yeah thats the issue I have with sanctum as it is in poe1, it flips the formula on its head. You make a gimmick build and get insanely easy rewards with barely any barrier to entry

[viscid raptor]

sanctum succy

nice how the labs actually have like tie in other than just being labs ... they are intro to actual league mechanics

rn sanctum and ultiumatum

[round pebble]

ulti makes way more sense for an ascendancy test, you actually need a mix of surivability and damage

im guesing in poe2 sanctum won't be trivial to offscreen everything, so maybe it'll be fun

[viscid raptor]

well the only real similarity to sanctum is resolve

lel

possibly the worst part of sanctum being the league exclusive life/es

[ebon meadow]

that was my alarm

it means skilled people have a HUGE advantage over new and normal players

and the reason i say i want to try before judging is depends on the scale of dificulty

very end game skilled people should have an advantage over rest but defining end game is such a hard balance

like if no hit run is compered to a guardian map than ok that is fine

[round pebble]

my main issues are:

• the damage output in sanctum is so low that you don't really need defenses
• the best way to play is to not engage with mobs and kill them with totems/mines/bow skills offscreen
• the rewards are too large for how much investment it takes to get them

[viscid raptor]

then they were like there was alternatives for lab and it was all fine kek

wonder what the 3rd version will be

[round pebble]

if in poe2 your defenses matter, you cant offscreen everything, and you need to actually be good I'm all in on sanctum

[viscid raptor]

cuz they have 1 more

[round pebble]

lab 2: revengance

[ebon meadow]

same lul the first one i was like monkaS

then i saw that u had choices and like ok this can be cool i can choose what i want

i hate lab btw and my last ascendancy is usually after level 90

i hate traps like a lot

and the amount iof maps i can generate just gives me so much xp i dont go to last lab til really late

feels like devs reading this chat XD they mentioning the sanctum relatable now xdd

[exotic wave]

so you're going to be doing vaal trails I see