📚┃off-topic

[tawny sand]

i'm watching stream of silent hill 2

looks quite good gotta admit

i did not have a lot of expectations for it

[hexed stream]

another 2+ hours, darn

[tawny sand]

ugh

[sand wigeon]

Rudy’s ENB preset.

The mods integral for achieving that look:

Obsidian weathers, ENB light, Skyrim 202X (2K textures) and Rudy’s ENB, LeanWolf’s Better Shaped Weapons for visuals.

For gameplay, it’s True Directional Movement, Precision and Nemesis.

For HUD, it’s SkyUI, moreHUD, TrueHUD and SkyHUD.

(Almost all mods that require FNIS work with Nemesis. Nemesis creates a dummy FNIS model to work off)

[hexed stream]

wtf 37gb d4 update

[fierce moth]

Why no stremers playing the game even they're streaming D4

[hexed stream]

season starting

[sand wigeon]

Yeah new D4 shtuff

[fierce moth]

?...Don't get it. Isn't the dlc update live already

All of them is updating the game?

[sand wigeon]

Nope

It releases for download today

[hexed stream]

another new update

server not working for a few hours already

[sand wigeon]

I’m getting some conflicting info on articles tho

[fierce moth]

I even can't download the update...

Battle net tell me install the game at first...lol But I installed already

oh looks like it's the issue of battle net itself. I can't update battle net

[sand wigeon]

You sometimes need to redirect the install back to its folder

It’s under the install button

[fierce moth]

Ok boring waiting time

🙃 Ok the battle net just don't let me update the game stably

[hexed stream]

mine is bigger size darn it

[fierce moth]

No worries, I even can't update it now

The official expect to launch the update this evening...Oh so I'm in the right time lol

[twilit mountain]

It got delayed for a good few hours cuz of technical issues. Only recently fixed so they're all updating now.

[hexed stream]

just nice for my lunch, will have quick lunch before coming back for the game

[fierce moth]

Lunch time +1 but it's brunch for me haha

[fierce moth]

A error reminder window just pop out again and again to say my internet is issued so I can't update 🤷‍♀️

Maybe I don't purchase their dlc so the battle net don't allow me to play the game 🤭

[hexed stream]

ok login time

[hexed stream]

lol I didn't know I could uninstall the hires pack

d2 people should be able to recognize this quest and dagger in act 3

omegalul

[vagrant topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgia-panoots-reddit-cartoon-so-much-nostalgia-gif-18298628

I think I might do a D4 run and go through the campaign

[hexed stream]

fk them flayers

so smoll yet so many

off to travincal

[vagrant topaz]

Are they back ?

With their small Blow Darts ?

[hexed stream]

currently only seeing the melee ones, not yet seen the dart ones

[vagrant topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-turns-around-runs-away-oops-meme-scared-kid-gif-25656420

[hexed stream]

I didn't know travincal was that close to kurast dock, d2 make it seems needlessly far

say no more, meph runs coming

hehe, recognize this old man

this MF was alive and old in d2, wonder how old he is now, 200-300?

[stable laurel]

@fervent hazel Re: #💬┃general message it was just a poorly made store bought pizza cashing in on a trend that didn't really exist. The chocolate tasted weird and the texture was just... not pleasant. Sweet pizzas can definitely work, I think of them as like savoury pancakes. And your combo sounds great!

[desert jasper]

There's this swedish pizza that has banana, curry powder and ham on it
It's surprisingly good

[hexed stream]

spoiler

[hexed stream]

moat trick anyone

[fierce moth]

I wonder why all streamers who play D4 I seen are chose this class. Which class is it?

[vagrant topaz]

I am guessing the new spirit born

[fierce moth]

Thanks for D4, the ping is down a lot hahaha

[fierce moth]

The first unique item come faster than I'm expected but it's useless unfortunately. Don't play minions

[desert jasper]

That's a real nice amulet for minion lvling

[gilded elm]

Use it to level an alt later on maybe

[fierce moth]

emmmmmm... I want a wand more to be honest

[blissful token]

whew dreki fight was fun

[fierce moth]

Much more comfortable to kill enemies after made many mistakes actually :)

[desert jasper]

You don't need Precision aura for dmg over time builds like you're doing

But glad to hear it's more comfortable 🙂

[fierce moth]

Prepare for the hexblast gem later :)

[twilit mountain]

Is it just for the crit chance? Hexblast is a spell, spells don't need accuracy because they can't miss.

[hexed stream]

this new expansion campaign, really have the vibe of lord of the ring to it

[fierce moth]

You're right

Which buff skill I want to find is add more crit chance and more crit multiplier

[twilit mountain]

I think the closest you get for that is Zealotry, generally you have to get crit from other sources cuz there's not a very good aura for it. Power charges are one of the best ways in the game right now (look into Assassin's Mark maybe).

[gilded elm]

Inspiration maybe

But that's a red gem too, so probably not

Don't remember how that scales with levels, maybe Power Charge on Crit would be better

[twilit mountain]

I don't know if PCoC works on mines tbh

[gilded elm]

Crit is usually a late game thing any way in my experience

You shouldn't really focus on crit early on IMO

[fierce moth]

lol Just the logic interia from le. Crit multiplier can improve damage a lot so...

[twilit mountain]

Unless you're Power Siphon, crit is free af on that skill lmfao

[gilded elm]

Yeah, though usually I see people transitioning into crit rather than building crit from the start

Once they have the gear/passives/etc

I guess maybe there's no caster equivalent, but nodes like Resolute Technique and Precise Technique tend to be stronger in early/mid game with the nodes that you have access to.

I never played Power Siphon, but I can't believe that says more instead of increased, so it's a multiplicative modifier to crit chance per power charge? lol

[twilit mountain]

Yes. It's just as stupid as it sounds.

[fierce moth]

D4 is updated 19h ago but I still can't connect battle net to update my game 🤭

[west cairn]

dont tell me blizz fked up again with the server connection after they hyping so hard

[fierce moth]

The floor pattern is the biggest nightmare for the last fan art definitely How are these curves connect each other randomly with an aesthetic way is what I'm thinking

Also this is the hint for which landscape I'm trying to reveal

[fierce moth]

https://x.com/Hakusi_Katei/status/1807591865132466324

That's an interesting mini gift 😱

I'm thinking what will the le cover looks like with that mini mirror so I ordered one just now 😂
Hyped to play that

[thorn nacelle]

its a New class Monk/Spirit born think.. Based on Blizzards History any new class was broken till next patch where starts to get nerfed slowly.
Based on couple reviews that had time to read from most popular steamers talking about 1 positive think about the new Vessel of Waitred Expansion.
its the new Raid event which requires all the Team members to pass the mechanics in order to progress into the next level.
This new Raid event is nothing but normal basic wow raiding/key pushing aka there is no carry mode when u aiming to be at the top.
Last think after years of raiding in Wow... as Single player mode nowdays will pass on that just tired of this carry mode process.(costs time/effort)

[west cairn]

old but for the lulz xD

lets just hope LE never reaches this kind of balancing issues

[narrow token]

Can't even see what's happening.

240p is real

[west cairn]

the monster is so ultra tanky that it takes ~10min to kill it and the streamer just went afk and in the end drops trash xD

better i guess

[hexed stream]

not really, I've played it for a day already

must be something wrong with the local internet

[fierce moth]

emmmmmmmm

Such a pity that I sell that unique amulet now

[narrow token]

When your tooltips are too long, the game. Geez.

[fierce moth]

Ok the second unique weapon is pop out suddenly

Why not just give me an unique wand :(

[thorn nacelle]

looks almost like newspaper xD

[sand wigeon]

tbf that is two separate skills

[fierce moth]

I don't get why the ping is scary once I enter this dungeon 🙃 Can't go on the game alright

[blissful token]

everyone's just humongous

[vagrant topaz]

PC ?

[blissful token]

yesh

[vagrant topaz]

Oo

Didnt know it was out

[blissful token]

ayy SNEK 🐍

[blissful token]

yea, some time in Sep

[vagrant topaz]

Sweet

[modest spoke]

Is the new d4 dlc good? Ive been thinking about getting the game and im wondering if now is a good time to finally jump in

[gilded elm]

D4 has been a lot better since season 4 (2 seasons ago), has been fun to jump into casually for me.

[tawny sand]

i like it so far, the DLC is alright. The campaign is okay i guess, the other features are cool so far tho

i haven't done the raid yet however

spiritborn is fun

kurast undercity is cool

the season mechanic, which you don't need the dlc for, is kind of eh? Like it takes a long time chasing the hell beast thing down

i for the life of me can't get angel's breath to upgrade my potions though

[gilded elm]

Helltides?

[tawny sand]

i've done a few, still stuck on level 40 potions

And Subo keeps bugging out for me and not highlighting resources so

also i keep crashing a lot, idk why

[gilded elm]

Yeah had a lot of client issues too, waiting for stuff to get fixed and better optimized before I dive deeper into the DLC. Been playing on an off with PoE lol

The game is usually highly optimized for me, but this DLC added a bunch of stuff so I guess they still gotta work through all the bug reports.

[tawny sand]

yeah i've had a few bugs

i think the hotfix did something cause i was playing fine yesterday, but now i've crashed like 5 times today

[fierce moth]

Ok it's a real trash unique item because deal no chaos damage

[desert jasper]

For you, yeah
It's... not the worst thing ever though

[gilded elm]

Looks okay for early leveling? You don't have to use chaos damage and having another source of area and damage scaling is nice.

[fierce moth]

Ok I has a question for which armor is better...I don't know which one is more important, more energy field + more cold resistence or more armor...

More armor = more reduced physical damage?

The second witch is over than the first one on all cases anyway :) Left 5 levels to be equal on level only

[gilded elm]

Are you crafting resists at your hideout?

You should be

[fierce moth]

oh I keep pushing up the progress so I don't go to hideout yet

[gilded elm]

Phys damage reduction is very important and the only way to really get it early game is from armor. Resistances can be easily crafted at your hideout.

You should also probably do your Ascendancy Trial if you haven't done it yet

[desert jasper]

Tbh I wish PoE showed it more easily what's a prefix & suffix
like Last Epoch does
but at least you can press alt to check it

[gilded elm]

You can do it as soon as you get to Act 3

[fierce moth]

The same act now, act 4

[gilded elm]

Yeah agreed, even with alt it can be confusing because things move around and your eyes have to readjust

[gilded elm]

You should go to Act 3 and do your first trial so you can pick your Ascendancy

[desert jasper]

Also if you don't press alt
you have things that can appear on multiple rows , the hybrid stuff
So if you're new to the game you might just look "oh, it has 6mods already"

[gilded elm]

Mods can also merge with mods, for example +100 Max Life and +100 Armor / +50 Max Life should show as +150 Max Life and +100 Armor on two lines.

Alt is the only way to know for sure.

[desert jasper]

Yeah, that too

[fierce moth]

Nice rare item as the goodnight gift :) I'm bothering lack of damage issue now

Then I screwed up my helmet lol damn lose lots of armor

But I have gained more types of orbs in settler mode than standard mode overall

[gilded elm]

Have you been to Kingsmarch yet? It's the main mechanic for the Settlers league.

[fierce moth]

I only can sell items here...I'm confused how to play it too

[gilded elm]

Kingsmarch is a city that you're supposed to manage. Talk to the recruiter to recruit and hire workers. You can set up farming and shipping very quickly. Once you have shipping, you can passively earn currency ("orbs" like you called them)

[wooden wing]

idk why but man im having a blast playing D4 new expac.

maybe its cuz i only spent 40hrs in LE but it seems like D4 has SOOO MANY ways to actually alter your gameplay

like i got a permanent buff on my class where my CRIT chance just keeps going up as long as i keep moving up to 100% lol changes how i play cuz now im looking for dodge charges and ways to increase my movement speed in my skill tree

[ebon meadow]

Don't bother to much looking at gear wile in acts (u should be running a filter ) I think I read that u running ED contagion so get evasion base gear with maybe some energy shield and worry about gear when u get to act 9

Ed trickster used to be my main for so many leagues before nerf lol

Get to blood aquaducts in act 9 first zone start blasting levels

Important things are sockets and Res for u for now

[gilded elm]

Yeah, sockets are usually the determining factor early on. You can make up for any shortcomings with crafting (mostly for flat life and resistances) and auras (vitality, clarity, determination, grace, purity of elements etc)

[hexed stream]

shouldn't it be horde?

[gilded elm]

I don't remember, but Hordes aren't available that early, no?

I know Helltides should be available since level 1

[hexed stream]

not at level 1 but still quite early
horde was the sole winner for leveling method last season

when it was still max 100, people played horde around level 25-30 I think

[gilded elm]

Then again, levels got shrunk so maybe Hordes are easily accessible at their level now

[hexed stream]

I barely reached t1 yesterday, almost the entire 2nd day of season I couldn't play due to work

[fierce moth]

😆 I wonder should I go back to play frostpunk to review this type of gameplay to understand it better

😂 I don't play any games about building and managing towns for a long time

Get it now, I assign different resources in my town to get different materials by different ways. Not sure what will they give me later

That's why poe is amazing I suppose...Mix extra gameplay from another types of games into the base hack and loot one. Only poe did that

What I don't get is what the sense of treasury gold? For doing what?

[gilded elm]

Treasury is how you pay your workers. They don't work if you don't pay them. You can put as much gold as you want into the treasury. It tells you how long that gold will last based on your current workers.

You should always keep your town running, gold has no purpose outside of Kingsmarch (it's a new non-tradable currency that was added as part of this league's mechanic)

Get your shipping upgrade as soon as you can. Once you have a boat and sailors, you can start sending shipments and earning currency/materials as rewards.

[fierce moth]

I agree with that now. No another suffix mod is confusing

[gilded elm]

The general rule for PoE items is 3 prefix and 3 suffix limit. It's not always easy to tell just by looking, you have to hold the Alt key while looking at the item to see how many prefixes and suffixes it has, to check if you can use it for crafting.

[fierce moth]

Ohhhh I see 👍

[gilded elm]

For early game, usually you want a spare suffix slot so you can craft resistances.

So items that have no more than 2 suffixes, that way your 3rd suffix can be a resistance that you craft yourself.

Life and Mana are usually prefixes on gear, those are good too. But just remember you can only have 1 crafted modifier on an item.

[fierce moth]

Yeah then I see why I can't craft it. Yeah just learn I can only have 1 crafted modifier on an item by error and trial

[gilded elm]

Yeah, that item already has 3 suffixes, so you can't add any more. You can add a prefix though.

You can probably add Max Life or Max Mana

[fierce moth]

I need to find something can craft to up my fire resistance. Cold and lighting is capped 👌

[gilded elm]

Yep, that's how it goes lol, gotta find the right item

Fortunately early game the only thing you really worry about crafting is resistances.

[fierce moth]

I'm worrying about chaos resistance because 0% chaos resistance I have still

[gilded elm]

0% is okay, but your resistances will go down permanently at different points in the campaign. Have you ever played Diablo 2? Like how your resistances go down in Nightmare mode, and then go down even more in Hell mode? The same thing happens in PoE. Your resistances will go down -30% after beating Act 5, and then another -30% after beating Act 10 (final act).

By the time you finish the campaign, your base resistances will be -60% haha

Oh yeah, by the way... this is why it's a good idea to do your first Ascendency trial before beating Act 5 (because -30% res) and your second Ascendency trial before beating Act 10.

[fierce moth]

oh my treasury gold only support the town running 3 days only!? I need to collect more golds now

[gilded elm]

75 gold per hour is nothing haha

[fierce moth]

Just start the town so the number not crazy at all haha

Being a leader of a town is happy anyway Everything is my business

[fierce moth]

Prove that coming fan art isn't generated by AI so here's an another wip (Yeah my brain is twisted as same as these curves now)

https://tenor.com/view/hot-mess-gif-15680732242341940985

Yeah as like as this gif

[ebon meadow]

Don't worry to much about chaos Res u don't need to untill u hit red Maps if u do ,when u get to maps first time maybe work around chaos Res to get it to 0 then work from there

There s not much content that use chaos damage so it's "fine"

[fierce moth]

lol I always play a game in an unpopular way

Fire/cold/lightning damage is too common, no fresh at all. Only chaos damage attract me

[hexed stream]

chaos damage build still quite a lot

[spiral parrot]

Howdy guys?
Just finished this dope commission of an ice elf! 💙 She's got these glowing blue eyes, icy vibes, and a magical snowflake behind her. Loved adding those braids and the blue dress with fur to give her that winter queen look! I made this piece and thought why not share it with y'all? Would love to hear your thoughts on it!

[thorn nacelle]

Should rename this channel into Poe topic i guess fits better😅

[thorn nacelle]

It looks okay i guess.. would look better if background didnt overlap her dress color. Depends on which game would fit this charachter could add further comments😉

[ocean rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KG_AMMz4PQ

Just a little bit of humor

[sand wigeon]

You should absolutely have capped chaos res by even yellow maps

Ideally earlier

Or, at the very least, you should be working on it

Crafting some basic mapping gear with chaos res is really cheap, and buying it isn’t much more

[spiral parrot]

Yes, you're right. But I drew this based on my client's requirements, and they really liked it. Btw can I draw something for you according to your requirements?

[tawny sand]

VoH campaign is kind of just alright

rest of the expansion is decent tho

but kind of disappointed cause i really liked the base campaign

[fierce moth]

Ok done the floor pattern for the main platform finally. Progress...20% only. POE launch time then anyway

[fierce moth]

No, D4 fans will fight with you about that...Be careful

[ebon meadow]

If u stay away from ritual like a sane person there's no need jk lol u mostly right today chaos damage is more common but u do get the chaos Res rings with good rolls early to since last rework ,I think I m running like 10% Res on my lvl 94 glad to be fair and no issues

It's actually stupid tanky this league (lacerate glad) so much regen it's crazy can mostly tank anything under my life pool

[sand wigeon]

I have max res on mg current league character

Same as usual

And by that I mean I have CI

[ebon meadow]

Ohh lul yea ci is bit different

Never had fun messing around with it before building pure ES is a pain

[sand wigeon]

I enjoy ES

[ebon meadow]

Is the basic still the same ? No change to ci unless u get 5 k ES ?

Or u gonna have bad time xd

I see Kirra mention playing ED now I miss my purple circles

I might roll one this league since we don't know when it ends

[sand wigeon]

What do you mean?

I’m not sure what you’re asking

[ebon meadow]

Before the tip was don't go ci untill u have 5k es pool or u die a lot

I wonder if it change now and u have to have more

[sand wigeon]

Oh well you don’t start CI

You respecc into it

[ebon meadow]

Yea yea I know it's top right ISH node ,but u don't want to spec it untill u had gear that would bring u to 5 k

That was the minimum to run maps and not ripping

[sand wigeon]

I mean, I converted into an ephemeral edge CI trickster, so

https://pobb.in/d6xWpPjHULYl

[ebon meadow]

I l take s lurk when get home ,always like to peak on ci characters

I mostly like lazy builds hybrid life /es and couple of buttons since I still use my flasks manually 🎹

Played like five leagues of jugg RF ,just cruse control on and everything burns

Some fire traps on single targets . The best thing was Unstoppable and don't get slow down of any sorts feels so nice I hate slow downs

[sand wigeon]

Yeah I automate as much as possible

The only buttons I press on that build are my tincture, frost shield, sigils of power, warcry, main attack skill and movement skill

[ebon meadow]

Movement skill is not even a button at this point ,always had it rebind to space bar

It's going to be so hard to re learn it in Poe 2 because of dash on space

[sand wigeon]

my movement is on w

[ebon meadow]

Ohh lul what games do u usually play that u have it there for confort ?

W is my main skill right click secondary the e buffs and stuff

[ebon meadow]

I m guessing MMOs

[sand wigeon]

Uh

PoE

Right click is my main skill, movement is left click

[sand wigeon]

Oh I meant movement skill

[ebon meadow]

Yea I figured flame dash , dash etc etc

Don't recall seeing anyone having w for it

Bit it's what u mostly comfortable with so no judging there

It's funny Poe is only game that I don't use q for anything having some lot of hours in LoL 😂

Probably due the instant life flask is on 2 and I can finger it very fast ( that sounds bad )

[sand wigeon]

Yeah I just have the vanilla key binds

W is just one of the default keybinds for the skillbar

[ebon meadow]

I have rebinded them once and that was before second skill bar on Alt and still havent touch them ,to comfi for my hand

Mouse wheel to side mouse button and r on second side button for Vaal skills and bursts

Good thing about second skill bar was fast toggling auras but there's not even need for that anymore since they stay active after death

Caind of missing rpg play had an accident and fractured my scull so can't play anything that makes my blood rush to head. Just been playing Ark and breeding Dino's for last 2 weeks

[thorn nacelle]

[thorn nacelle]

Thank you for your kind offer 🙂 Had similar offer couple days ago..
Someday maybe but not in the moment

[fierce moth]

.......The size of a map in poe always out of my box. 🙏

Speed run in poe is just quite difficult...

I can level up twice time in a zone... That's the size. God...Go back become quite troublesome, portal is the light in the dark... Bring portal gem on my gears is the most smart decision I did

LE down the difficulty for speedruning the campaign a lot indeed

[narrow token]

I actually haven't been able to commit to playing this past cycle because I'm so utterly uninterested in redoing the LE campaign for the 10th time.

Just can't do it again

[fierce moth]

💕 I get why my emotion is break down suddenly in the night now...
Take care yourself always!

[fierce moth]

Yeah that's why we need a break to avoid burning out.

[ebon meadow]

Funny thing representor of Poe few times said that the % of people trying/playing the game that reach maps end endgame is a single digit u learn to speed run campaign thrugh playing the game like a lot

U can learn the easy way witch is just bashing Ur head like most of us do or learn layouts probably why people want to uninstal lmao

Personally I just like repetivness and doing it each next time better and faster

[fierce moth]

Next target:

Because I get this unique ring just now haha

[desert jasper]

What spell are you using again?

[karmic nimbus]

All it seems

[desert jasper]

Yeah

[fierce moth]

....I must find a loot filter now

[fierce moth]

Still stay on hexblast + despair + contagion + desecrate

emmmm the cost is only 249 mana is available after activate double buff...Then increase max mana become the most important thing

[thorn nacelle]

@fierce moth once u done with Poe give a try Diablo 2 was on offer half price 🙂 offline ofc.

[fierce moth]

No interest so far unfortunately lol

[hexed stream]

@fierce moth wonder why you don't play d4 this season

[fierce moth]

Because I can't update my game by battle net :(

hah guys I fall in love with the new exclusive gameplay in league now!!!! Damn all of them is what I need or what I want

The only problem for me is I don't have enough goods to exchange enough orbs. Need to increase the capacity of farming...

[thorn nacelle]

https://youtu.be/MyaUTj407RY?si=el4c8_-YmagYSZZH

When fun base does the job better than the Devs.

[thorn nacelle]

Yes no worries 🙂 enjoy poe xD

[fierce moth]

oh...I get why I'll meet corrupted flowers, a mysterious tree or ritual base within a map now... These random encounters are for ore deposits...Damn I missed a lot

[fierce moth]

Once I start to enjoy poe, it's even more fun than the past that I learned how to play le XD

The key is I need to learn a lot even during the early stage of campaign...Less stuff I learn in le so le will be accepted more easily.

Consistent surprises and challenges in poe :)

[thorn nacelle]

Same happends with D2. Once u get an idea about the game then the fun begins xD
Grow up with D2 so ya.. anyway enjoy Poe since u have fun 🙂

[hexed stream]

oh, still cannot even till today?

[fierce moth]

Yeah Blizzard cursed my game :)

[hexed stream]

uninstall the game and try again maybe?

[fierce moth]

Internet booster can't help me to install the game too. I guess...Battlenet need to uninstall too

[fierce moth]

30 mins passed. Still stay on 45% update battlenet 😅

[ebon meadow]

Mephisto runs aware

[hexed stream]

oh I remember this, it happened to me too, and all the streamers, download speed was like only a few kb/s

[ebon meadow]

That means the server is overloaded with downloads ,new content probably the reason it's almost weekend to

Maybe try a VPN and different route to download server

[hexed stream]

but today is day 3 of season, overloading shouldn't happen

[ebon meadow]

It's blizzard they make magic happen

[fierce moth]

sorry just don't work

[ebon meadow]

I wish I could meme lol I always had bad experience with downloading new content

PTSD with diablo 2 rework still kicks in and speatially with wow classic launch

[ebon meadow]

Not sure if battlenet works same as steam now but can't you like assign speed and download ? Also a bit of stupid question reminder do u have space for the game maybe it's trying to find it xd

Happen to me once I didn't realize I was out of HDD memory

[junior oyster]

Bnet speeds are always trash

[fierce moth]

I wonder why Blizzard still can own huge groups of players who would like to pay for new content no matter how overprice the dlc is and how potato the server is

Too many mysteries in life...

[hexed stream]

I recall the patch day, for me, at some point it was 60mb/s, at some other point it's 60 kb/s

[thorn nacelle]

Nightmare Mephisto and Andariel best spots to farm

Hell Andariel terrorized best boss ingame. P3-p7 depends

[tawny sand]

the nahantu dungeons feel a lot better than the original ones.

[hexed stream]

really? they remind me of the worse maps in d2: kurast sewer and durance of hate

also, last season few people noticed but they actually reworked the layout of all the OG dungeons

[tawny sand]

they have no backtracking, the objectives are literally just "explore and kill the boss" with some side stuff you can completely skip

[blissful token]

🐿️

[twilit mountain]

SungWon

[tawny sand]

VoH is kind of buggy, i just realized the opals don't work for me and i've heard undercity tributes don't give the right loot or something. I've only used blue tributes so far so idk about that one

and my game crashed yet again lol

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I finished the campaign but still running into issues, hoping things get better over the weekend, otherwise probably more PoE lol

[blissful token]

Wait squirrel voiced by him?

I was when i saw Odin the first time and immediately recognize he was Richard Schiff from The Good Doctor

[hexed stream]

that's not how dungeons work in s6

unlike previously, you don't care about rushing to boss in s6 dungeons

it's now a place to farm masterwork mats, dropping from every elite, so it doesn't matter if you rush or farm every corner

[fierce moth]

Still stick on update battlenet client. Bye, D4

[thorn nacelle]

Noo you cant do dis..

You going to lose all this fun Kirra!!

[narrow token]

Idk if I can be convinced any arpg besides D4 and LE are worth playing rn honestly. Nothing else feels as good.

[fierce moth]

No, I convince everyone poe worth to play definitely too. Done the layrinth!

This labyrinth is the most interesting dungeon I seen so far 🤔

[gilded elm]

gj, dont forget to choose your Ascendency before you leave lol

[fierce moth]

Searching what's transfigured gem

[desert jasper]

transfigured gems have something different to them when it comes to their quality affecting them

[gilded elm]

It's a special version of a skill gem. There's many different kinds of transfigured gems, some of them have very major changes compared to the normal version of the skill.

[thorn nacelle]

Balanced new class

[thorn nacelle]

i am 50-50 to try that D2 mod found yesterday

[gilded elm]

For example, Frenzy is a skill gem that works with bows and wands, but there's a transfigured version called Frenzy of Onslaught which works with a melee weapon.

[thorn nacelle]

Btw also i heard they added Feasts into Diablo 4. another Wow Cooking raiding think.

[gilded elm]

There's a whole lot of gems that you can only obtain by transfiguration, many of these are really cool and fun to play with https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Transfigured_skill_gem

[fierce moth]

yeah looking at the same page. What the difference is...😅

More damage when hit if enemy is hexed and more effctivitness added damage only?

[fierce moth]

emmmm I can improve gem quality by currency so...I choose transfigured skill gem

[thorn nacelle]

Chaos damage is aka Elemental damage in Poe?

ignite,freeze,shock etc

watching this and getting even more hyped to play d2 mod version rofl 😄

[fierce moth]

What the advantage of hitting enemy is the highest resistance compare with the lowest resistance? 🤔

[gilded elm]

This one is a really complicated example of a transfigured gem, I think. Because the Contradiction version makes the skill worse unless you negate the enemy's resistances by special means like penetration or inversion

[thorn nacelle]

so you adding colorfull gems into your gear in order to boost the stats that already exist on the X item

[gilded elm]

It has a higher damage overall, but to apply that damage, you can't rely on curses that lower enemy resistance because of the way it applies only to the enemy's highest resistance.

[fierce moth]

...My roll is so bad. Gives three new gems to me and none of them is what i want

[gilded elm]

You can always run the labyrinth as many times as you want and get a free Divine Font use at the end

[fierce moth]

And only one chance per run

[gilded elm]

I think the very highest level labyrinth has 2 divine font uses at the end? I forget lol

[fierce moth]

...All Izaro's treaure need to unlock by treasure keys?...I just wondered where're my treasure keys (x2) after opened double ones

Then need to grind Izaro a few times to open all treasures once time

[gilded elm]

You don't, those treasure chests all refresh on new run.

[fierce moth]

The answer is clear. Occultist is the only choice for chaos damage

[gilded elm]

You can always change your Ascendency later if you don't like it any way, but each Ascendency point costs 5 refund points to refund.

[fierce moth]

1:5, very value

[gilded elm]

Yes, you want to think more carefully about where you put those points if right now you dont have many refund points.

[fierce moth]

I can understand why poe is the top ARPG which attract over 800k players on reddit now 🫡

The only weakness of poe I can complain is maps are too big sometimes and I can't locate the health bar of corresponding enemies when they're too much

[hexed stream]

most likely the great firewall has blocked blizzard

[blissful token]

EKKS DEE

[fierce moth]

hah interesting, maps in past le zoom in too much compare with current version and not many twist paths here

[desert jasper]

That cat looks content
seems to feel safe

[fierce moth]

pet her is the most enjoyable thing in this world actually. The feeling is too nice

oh especially pet her when she's sleeping hahaha

[desert jasper]

I didn't like to bother my cat too much when he was sleeping

[twilit mountain]

Fellow cat enjoyer 🤝

[desert jasper]

But he would come & sleep next to me under the blanket
I miss him so much

[fierce moth]

Get multiple excellent loots and first time to fill my inventory tonight

Then I meet the most confusing reward for main quests in poe. No tooltips for introducing the difference but ask me select one...????

[vagrant topaz]

If I had to guess, they match the gem colors and attributes colors

So it's probably related

[fierce moth]

Ok so my choice will be sapphire

POE is earning money from stash tabs is what I just know...Four free pages only and I checking out available options now

I guess free space will be filled soon so I must buy extra tabs if I don't want to throw my storage 🤔

[desert jasper]

Wait for a sale if you buy any tabs
currency tab is probably among the most useful ones

[twilit mountain]

Yep.
Crimson: Most melee weapon mods, armor, block/shield.
Viridian: Bow/claw/dagger ("projectile" weapons), trap/mine, evasion
Cobalt: ES mods, wands/staves ("caster" weapons), cast speed, trap/mine, minion.

Suffixes don't change between them iirc

@fierce moth ^ for visibility

[fierce moth]

thanks!

lol I come back town of act 1 with pushing the campaign? Interesting

[desert jasper]

Things have changed

[fierce moth]

Oh -30% all resistance curse is live. Well -30% chaos resistance I get! So cool

[desert jasper]

You'll get another -30% after finishing act 10

[fierce moth]

I wonder how are they keep 75% all resistance even under -60% all resistance then 😢

It means I must stack over +135% all resistance

[twilit mountain]

Yeah. It's easier than it sounds.

Items can get like 40%+ to a single resistance on one affix, and rings can also give a lot via implicits combined with suffixes.

[desert jasper]

Also plenty of passives give some

[fierce moth]

Well...Another new gameplay which I can learn after wake up 🫡

[desert jasper]

Ah, heist
it's... kinda a pain to start

[mental talon]

You're just scratching the surface after Act 5 you'll really start getting a taste of the endgame systems you can take part in and Heist is one of many (I enjoy Heist and am not afraid to admit it)

[twilit mountain]

My hatred of heist is unmeasurable.

[fierce moth]

lol it's very fun to learn any new gamplay in poe anyway because that's what I have did in le before so it's fine.
I'm confident to learn anything in poe because I played le over 1k hours before start to learn poe
Anyways I still no idea what can I do with currencys I get from corrupted dungeons

[mental talon]

Uhh their is a lot to learn in PoE. I'd highly suggest not trying to learn it all in one season, you aren't going to be able to parse it all tbh. Just try out different systems you like, find what you like the most and focus it now and expand your horizons in future seasons. Find out what you like and dislike, don't take half measures and try and dabble in everything all at once.

[fierce moth]

I will not take half measures once I have friends to answer my questions The biggest trouble for learning a game is you can't find someone to answer your questions

Learnt everything in one league not a bad thing I suppose? Then I can learn new exclusive gameplay in next league directly and play the game better

The most important reason why I play poe is I want to learn how a top ARPG is born and what content LE inspired from that and at last...All of info I get from this process can become the useful reference for writing an review for LE

You never know how good somewhere is in a game without comparing with games under the same type

[fierce moth]

I'd better to move my comments for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI5J7FrnXok here...No better channels to post.
Very on topic :)

This comment from Zizaran is cute XD

[fierce moth]

3 min temporal sanctum

I'm not sure what it mean

You can't get a legendary bow before you kill Julra so it's why I don't understand this meme

[twilit mountain]

@fierce moth kitten :3

[sand wigeon]

wow didn't event mention me

(i'm the only one out of anyone in my poe server who likes heist)

[gilded elm]

I like Heist in small doses lol

[hexed stream]

Idk how realistic that is but even the best streamers with 15-20k hours claim that they only understand half of the game

[gilded elm]

It's okay to explore all the side content available during the campaign, they exist to teach you about those systems so you can decide whether you like it or not. Once you finish the campaign, you will have a lot of flexibility to choose what kind of end game content you want to focus on.

[mental talon]

I like Heist 🤷‍♂️

[gilded elm]

The major thing that I didn't like about Heist was the story quest "The Rescue" ... if you know you know lol

And by "didn't like" I just mean it made me angry and sad 😦

[gilded elm]

A mirrored 6-link from strongbox, what are the odds... is there any way to scour this?

[mental talon]

Tainted Chaos Orb can reforge or scour but idk why you'd want to use that base right now? Unless you're SSF at which point I'd say get the town up and running you can get 6 links pretty reliably from shipping.

[gilded elm]

I haven't gotten my town up that high yet and I do have a low level Ranger I still gotta play through, figured it could be handy

But yeah I've been playing SSF (sort of, still using the Currency Exchange)

Haven't opened a single trade window this league lol

[mental talon]

Yeah I'd think you can snag an Omen of Connections for cheap as hell right now at this point in the league from whoever's even left playing tbh.

[gilded elm]

Does shipping at high level give you lots of omens?

I don't know how the rewards are scaled yet, is it tied to specific ports?

Or purely based on the value and distance of the shipment?

[mental talon]

Omens are from Ritual.

[gilded elm]

Yeah, I just (probably incorrectly) inferred what you said about farming 6 links from shipping with omen of connections and thought you meant you could easily farm omens from shipping. I now assume you just meant actual 6 link items as direct rewards from shipping.

[mental talon]

Haha yeah my bad I should have definitely been clearer. So my apologies on that.

[gilded elm]

Looks like Connections is 240c on the exchange right now

[mental talon]

For 1500?

[gilded elm]

1500 fusings is 125c

[mental talon]

I completely misread for some reason smh

[gilded elm]

It's a discrepancy in the Currency Exchange, mostly

Or seems like

[mental talon]

Yeah then Fusings is cheaper to 6 link but more Gold

[gilded elm]

Connections should be like 1d according to trade site, and divine-to-chaos ratio is around 1:140, so the exchange price for omen is also very inflated seemingly.

[mental talon]

That's the price you pay to not have to message 97 people, get a trade time out, then finally buying it for 2 😂

[gilded elm]

lmao true, which is exactly what the price is when paying in divines on the exchange, 2d per omen on currency exchange, or 1d on trade site after your 100th whisper lol

[mental talon]

Yeah this entire league as long as it wasn't an egregious over pay I took the hit to just get what I needed instantly and keep playing lol

[gilded elm]

I think we'll see currency prices normalize over time as the exchange (most likely) goes core and more people will use it.

[mental talon]

Completely related but also the longest I've played a league in a long time

[gilded elm]

So there will be parity between the exchange and the trade site over time for currency items

[mental talon]

Yeah it's also late league so I expect some things might be lacking buyers/sellers

[gilded elm]

Definitely, there's only 30ish connection omens in stock right now on the exchange lol

[mental talon]

Sounds about right haha

[fierce moth]

That's fine, I need to play poe for 1kh at first. I admit I just know half of le only even I play 1k+h too. POE is harder so it must takes more time.

You get up so early 😂

[hexed stream]

Only on Sunday

My natural clock is 7.30

[fierce moth]

I wake up by the noise come from the neighbour so I still sleepy

[hexed stream]

Same, Sunday I always wake up unnaturally

[blissful token]

🐍

[fierce moth]

hah adjust the scale of complicated pillars and explore the right shape of the fence which connected with pillars spent me the whole night.

Go on working in progress tomorrow, maybe 🤞

[fierce moth]

(A little easter egg is what in the golden cup in temporal sanctum is red unknown liquid, looks like hot blood. I replaced the liquid with Matcha on a golden bowl. Just personal flavor.)

[fierce moth]

ah? What is it? Alright, another new gameplay which need to learn

[desert jasper]

Pantheon
the 4 bigger circles on top are major gods and the smaller circles are lesser gods
you can pick 1 major, 1 lesser
you need to kill act bosses for the major ones

[desert jasper]

So anyway, I had actually dangerously high blood sugar levels
and was diagnosed with ketoacidosis
I can barely remember a thing about the first ... like 8 hours of the first day, really.
There was some nurse in training (first day there) and at some point the nurse that was showing her the ropes said that "Remember, not all patients are this easy"

[slender drift]

My bad I didnt see your link

[desert jasper]

👍

And yeah, our pictures are similar.
But mine is my old cat

[slender drift]

Mine is a random cat

[desert jasper]

And quite sure it's edited on top of that

But yeah, it's not bad these days
very easy to check your own blood sugar and as long as you have somewhat active lifestyle you shouldn't have too much problems
Just remember to take care of your legs

[slender drift]

I had a blood clot in my legs and lungs.
I already have to take care of my legs 😅

[desert jasper]

Oh
Yeah then you might need to take extra care

[true goblet]

I'm mid-30's and have a fairly crappy diet, I'm pretty sure the main positive thing I have going for me is I have a reasonably active job, so I'm not gaining weight too much

[fierce moth]

XD I just know I need to choose one of options from the centre icon to active mastery node...

I had thought I just need to active surrounding nodes

Well another day that learnt a little more 💤

[fierce moth]

😱 So you can't eat any sweet food for a long time. Sorry to hear that bad news...

[true goblet]

more than just sweets, gotta watch the carbohydrates as well

[fierce moth]

indeed. But I prefer meat more than carbohydrates always after I realize meat is more delicious and healthy. But the economy condition means I can't eat enough meat everyday...Eat a meal with the rich quantity meat(especially beef) is expensive.

Cheese is another food that I want to explore and storage many of them if I have enough money...Western food owns the special point to attract me.

[hexed stream]

cheese is a strict no to me, I hate anything that triggers the feeling of eating too much fat in my mouth
veggies are true love haha

[desert jasper]

Wel I can
Just need to take more insulin if I do

[fierce moth]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Contract Emmmm the max required level is 80. Ok so this is a long-term gameplay that I can learn it for a super long time due to the wide range of required level and different locations and I can unlock different rogues.

To be honest...I'm a bit confused how GGG figure out such a complex gameplay system...I get 50% after checked out all details of heist on the wiki only.

[fierce moth]

Do possible colours of sockets on a item like boday armor is determined by the requirement of attributes?

I wonder if it's impossible to roll a green socket here

[gilded elm]

Yes, Str/Dex/Int affects the chance for specific socket colors. Str = Red, Dex = Green, Int = Blue

You can still roll a green socket on there, it would just be harder

You can also use the crafting table recipe to guarantee socket colors

Let's be glad they removed socket colors in PoE 2

[fierce moth]

lol yeah that's a big step

Why i can't active a node on the ascendence panel even I have 5 points?

[gilded elm]

5 refund points is for refunding 1 ascendency point

The ascendency tree uses Ascendency Points

But for refunds, it requires 5 normal refund points

Each time you complete the next highest Labyrinth difficulty, you get 2 ascendency points. You can get up to 8 total

[gilded elm]

Each one gives you 2 ascendency points the first time you clear it.

[fierce moth]

lol I just one more level than the second one, lv.55

The gap is quite wide

Hah just get this recipe! I can try it tonight. Unique gloves sounds good too

And only one left then I can see what will be happened after collect 6/6

[gilded elm]

You get a Prismatic Ring 🙂

[fierce moth]

Which rarity of perisatic ring?

[gilded elm]

Wiki says a normal rarity. It's not something that drops, so you would use the normal to craft your own rare if you wanted.

[fierce moth]

oh sad I want the most is unique prismatic ring lol

It explains why I can collect this card so fast too

[gilded elm]

These cards can be used to gamble for a unique ring or a unique corrupted prismatic ring

[desert jasper]

I remember when I got my first div card
and was so tired I didn't realize you needed a full stack of them
so I tried turning it in and it took the card and gave nothing in return.
Think it was a pretty worthless card though

[fierce moth]

The difference on rewards within different tiers is the amount of treasure keys Izaro will drop?

[gilded elm]

I don't think so? You can pick up additional treasure keys throughout the labyrinth, not just from Izaro dropping them. The difference is the monster level and difficulty.

[fierce moth]

I had thought the reward is scale with difficulty and monster level

Well so rewards from Lazaro's treasures is pure random

All tiers are rewards double ascendance points?

[gilded elm]

Everything scales with the zone level, so yes the higher labyrinths drop higher item level stuff

Higher item level means the item can roll with better affixes

[gilded elm]

The main reward for completing each tier of labyrinth for the first time is 2 ascendency points each, yeah

For repeat runs, the main reward is the Divine Font uses at the end

The different tiers have different options available at the Divine Font, and the highest tier labyrinth gives you 2 uses at the end

Divine Font is good because you can use it to gamble for a transfigured gem, increase gem quality, add experience to a gem or even extract a gem's experience into an item that you can apply to another gem later.

[fierce moth]

Ohhhh and more options on divine font

[desert jasper]

And better options

[fierce moth]

But I need to active 6 mazes again at first lol mazes in part 2 is harder on traps indeed

[gilded elm]

You need to complete 3 trials for your next labyrinth, you should encounter them naturally throughout the campaign.

[fierce moth]

Oh lv.55 one need 3 trials only? Nice so I remain double ones only

[gilded elm]

You can go there from a waypoint to check and to access the next lab

The Aspirant's Plaza icon in the bottom right of the map

The 3 circles mean you need 3 trials which you will encounter in the campaign

[fierce moth]

👀 I left one more icons here to unlock. That one under kingsmarch

[fierce moth]

Get what these circles means finally

[gilded elm]

Good thing is that trial progression is shared across all your league characters, so if you level an alt then you only need to do the labyrinths for the ascendency points and not the actual trials.

[fierce moth]

Lol let me level up current witch to lv.100 at first

Then I can think I learn all of the basic of this game

[gilded elm]

100 might take a while for a first-time blind playthrough lol

I think most first-time players don't even do the 3rd or 4th lab lol

[thorn nacelle]

This isnt copy paste from diablo 2 no

[desert jasper]

Yeah I wouldn't even aim for 100
I've... I don't even know how many hours in the game and I've only once leveled to 97 and that was years ago

[gilded elm]

Yeah 90 is pretty much complete, most of the time is gearing/farming currency to buy gear

[thorn nacelle]

Fixed my Necro last night Poison nova.. hyped to try it out today 🙂

[fierce moth]

Yeah I can imagine it must quite hard to get a set of graduated gears

[desert jasper]

Oh yea
the only double corrupt I did this league

[gilded elm]

It's like any trade economy. Meta is expensive, off meta is cheap. But there are powerful crafting systems as well which you can try your luck at.

This one is actually nuts lol

Because you can get partway to something usable, manually craft an affix you need, and then reforge it here

[desert jasper]

Ah
I remember a guy I know quitting when harvest got nerfed
because he got multiple items with all tier1 perfectly rolled
and then started crying how they "literally killed all the builds"

[gilded elm]

Nobody should ever want a completely deterministic crafting system lol

[desert jasper]

Some deterministic part is fine
but completely? yeah no thanks

[gilded elm]

I think PoE has a lot of different ways to craft that can be combined with each other to great effect and that seems good. You can already basically guarantee most of the mods you need, I think it's fair that you have to work for the tiers lol

[desert jasper]

Aye
tbh I don't do a lot of crafting because I'm lazy when it comes to it
Sure, I'll throw some essences, fossils and stuff
but I kinda don't like using the eldritch stuff. never seem to get what I want with them

[fierce moth]

I don't get 50% physical damage taken as lightning damage but reduce 60% lightning resistance

Then it means take more lightning damage

[gilded elm]

It's a lot easier to make up for the lost Lightning Res than it is to get physical damage reduction

[desert jasper]

You can easily get 60% more lightning resistance to cover that -60%
And it's easier to cover against elemental damage than physical damage

[fierce moth]

I see 👍🏻

[gilded elm]

Physical damage can be annoying to deal with and for builds that don't stack a lot of armour it's especially hard

[desert jasper]

So let's say you'd take a hit of 1000 physical dmg
now it's only 500 physical and 500 lightning... and that lightning then is reduced by your lightning resistance

[fierce moth]

😂😱 I just find my memory in a cafe in 2016 back by accident
Lots of stuff is changed, but that cafe still here. And...That muffin with vanilla ice cream photo still on my phone but that product don't available in that cafe anymore...

That's the first time for me to taste expensive dessert in the most central mall of this city 😂

[fierce moth]

I own petrified amber ores and bismuth ores but only double options are available to mine. Why?

[desert jasper]

You need to upgrade the mining place

[fierce moth]

Oh thanks!

[fierce moth]

...I feel my brain is growing up and close to be blowed up after I adjusted my skill gems and support gems a few waves

[fierce moth]

lol Alright get nothing improved but ran out of currency then I can do nothing for one-shot-killing because gems needs currency

The dps of hexblast can up to 10k+ now so damage isn't my problem. The defence is what I'm struggling...

I guess the reason is resistance are too low?

The tricky thing is I don't have better gears to add more resistance so I'm finding a way to get more armor (determination + immortal call) but immortal call seems help nothing 😅

I have no idea why energy field do nothing in poe so far. Always zero energy field once enemies closes to me lol

The way for energy field in poe is different from the ward in le completely

[ebon meadow]

Yea energy shield needs a pool and very fast regen to be effective

And yes you're res should be capped now with that level ,that is where u hit act 9 already and start some xp farm

Get a granite flask instead of Ur last one to buff the armour it's sort of a must if u doing armour

And the pre last one I think u using silver witch gives onslaught does nothing to u only gives a bit of speed I would recommend the one with phasing or the evasion one

I would probably prefer the phasing one u don't have any evasion,phasing is a secret QoL it helps u never get ganged by mobs

And the last thing that's just if u want looking at Ur mana pool u still have plenty ,MAYBE try to fit in akitterbots they are great chunk of damage since they can shock and shock increases damage

[fierce moth]

? No akitterbots in poe but

[ebon meadow]

Skitterbots sorry

Bumped in to my chief in bar had to put phone down lol

[fierce moth]

The pool of differernt flasks are quite big...It's a miracle once I can collect all of them

[ebon meadow]

Flasks are very important in Poe sometimes more than the gear

Usually people run one life flask rest utility but I still prefer 2 life ones and 3 utility

And one flask at least have to be instant ,not many things will kill u overtime it's going to be one big hit

3 levels for u to hit 60 and u can use the end game ones don't get the next ones they are worthless

[fierce moth]

Oh an interesting skill combo. Will try

Do this skill combo means main damage come from my minions?

[ebon meadow]

Meat shield I think is used by zombiemancers yes mainly for minion builds

Or golemancer if they still exist

That reminded me of a rule to learn basic damage bump ,more is always better than increase

[fierce moth]

Yeah then my build is based on hexblast so far 🤔

[ebon meadow]

More is multiplier and increased is like additive in simple words

The difference is huge

If u want to like learn what's good and what other using ,I suggest if u have time just go to poe.ninja then builds select the league and just look what people using and try to understand why .just select ssf or hardcore since in normal u see weird builds that work around group play

That's where I always find different support gem combos that can be good

Also PoB community fork is a must to play game (most of us come from diablo so spreadsheets is our drug XD)

Helps a lot to import builds and twick them

[fierce moth]

lol

The most direct difference between le and poe:
lv.56 is the level which I face serious defence crisis and serious challenge from the basic in poe.
lv.96 is the level which I face serious defence crisis and serious challenge from the basic in le.

⬆️ Both of them is based on the first character I play

I just wish shipping can bring me some currency...The first time to get zero reward tonight

[ebon meadow]

not sure how far u in to town at Kalgur but when u actually playing the game and this is a personal suggestion send ships to the neerby ports witch is like 30 mint with just some grane and dust (dust works like a multiplier for drops ) for smal raw currency

[ocean rivet]

Big chuncks of fudge (they're mine hands off)

[south gust]

ok but you have enough to share...

[ebon meadow]

i m actually munching on garlick potato salad and beer atm

[ocean rivet]

Not happening

I could tell you the flavors though...

[south gust]

Oh yeah. I could make my own!

But yours are already finished

[ocean rivet]

And they're bought from a really good fudge baker

[south gust]

I got to try steak and ale potato chips for the first time last week

[ebon meadow]

and regarding dificulty i d rather explain in levels , 1-90 is first step ,90-98 is second and 98-100 is third all three take simular amount of hours to get to so dont worry if u dont hit a 100 for few leagues it is really hard

[ebon meadow]

ohh my i can do with a decent steak , need to buy a good plancha

also never tried a brisket i need to find a place that can actually cook them well here , thats my food desire for now never had it

[south gust]

Oh good brisket is in a category of its own! It's a labor of love to make it though. we're talking anywhere from 10-14 hours on a smoker

[true goblet]

reaches for the fudge

[ocean rivet]

slaps hand

[true goblet]

😭

I'm about to go to bed and I'm thinking about fudge and other delicious treats, gah

[ocean rivet]

Go to sleep and dream about delicious treats

[south gust]

That is a cruel curse my friend

[true goblet]

I'll wake up and have no delicious treats 😭

[ocean rivet]

It's wicked 😂

[south gust]

no..

[true goblet]

diabolical

[ocean rivet]

Then when you wake up, you go to the store...

[slender drift]

I eat pasta and tomato sauce since 3 weeks because I am broke, you guys are killing me by talking about sugar..

[true goblet]

I work at a grocery store, but we don't have that good of a selection of things like fudge 😦

[true goblet]

at least incorporate some cheap cereal, usually has added nutrients. . .

[south gust]

2 Potatoes, 1 cup flour, 1 egg.
Boil the potatoes, blend the rest together and cut into small pieces and you have Gnocchi.

[soft fulcrum]

I love making pasta

its such a pain though

gnocchi is good for that though. relatively easy

[slender drift]

I am broke, more broke than a Grole.
😂 I'll fix it soon but for the next month it's pasta and tomato sauce until I run out of it.
I Want meat, I want bread 😭

[slender drift]

Expensive 😩

[true goblet]

I tend to not buy meat anymore either, just too pricey unless it's something like chicken legs or whatever

or cheaper pork cuts

[maiden widget]

spätzle is also easy, its just eggs milk and flour and pretty good

[true goblet]

everything else is just too friggin expensive for what you get

and I'm dealing with California prices, everything's like 20+ percent more expensive than other parts of the US

[slender drift]

In France meat price is going up so fast.
Only chicken and eggs are affordable.
Or extremely processed meat, but i prefer to not buy it.

[fierce moth]

but then how to cook these Gnocchi?

[south gust]

Boil them until they float.
Like, 2 minutes

[soft fulcrum]

ground beef is crazy expensive now

its outrageous

[true goblet]

just about anything beef here in the US is ridiculous

[ebon meadow]

depending on country but i suggest butcherys , packed meat in markets are expensive

[true goblet]

5-6 USD a pound minimum for anything except the lowest quality ground beef or something

[sand wigeon]

just grow chickens from chicken seeds

that's what i recommend

[ebon meadow]

been on ramen on oj for a year not ago it sucks

[soft fulcrum]

i wish 😂

[fierce moth]

Then eat them directly?...How to season them?

[soft fulcrum]

$8.50 when I bought some on friday

/lb

[true goblet]

admittedly I haven't checked recently, price could've gone up a bit

[south gust]

You can eat them plain or with a sauce. Make a soup with them. There's 1000's of recipes for them.

[sand wigeon]

You can toss them in a sauce, pretty much any work but alfredo sauce is most common. I personally fry them with a pan with lots of veggies and garlic.

[true goblet]

I don't work meat department and don't buy meat much so I don't notice the prices

[ebon meadow]

pork chops here a very cheap fortuanly

[slender drift]

Here, Cheapest "okay" quality beef is frozen grounded beef in a steak shape (I don't know the name in English 😅).
6,50€/kg

[true goblet]

yeah, usually the cheapest options for meat in my area are chicken drumsticks, most cuts of pork. . .

[ebon meadow]

yea thats sounds like EU price ok sadxd

[slender drift]

We are lucky eggs exist, they are so cheap compare to meat.

[fierce moth]

alfredo sauce oh...I had purchased it in store once time, no flavor at all for me 😅

[soft fulcrum]

make your own!

[ebon meadow]

i m still angry for couple of month ago buying a sack of potato like 2 kig for almoast 5 Euros

[south gust]

it's better fresh.

[soft fulcrum]

store-bought isn't the greatest I've found

it is awful for you but so so good

[true goblet]

off to bed for me, and now I'm all hungry and thinking of food, hmph

[ebon meadow]

can we just rename all supermarkets for convinience store at this point please

[south gust]

Sorry. Come back tomorrow and we'll do it again 😆

[true goblet]

noooo, I dont wanna work at a convenience store

[soft fulcrum]

https://thesaltymarshmallow.com/best-homemade-alfredo-sauce/ looks like a pretty standard recipe

[ebon meadow]

cook some pasta its like 20 mint just throw some olive oil or any and some salt

[soft fulcrum]

i would mince your own garlic though and maybe add a littttle bit more, but I really like garlic

** I would also add your own "seasoning"

[slender drift]

I am leaving this discussion.
If I stay here I'll starve to death.

[ebon meadow]

i want to play for like an hour before making food , nuggies and onion rings tonight

i am actually hungry to xdd

[slender drift]

Best sauce is pepper mayonneese.
I refuse anyone saying no.

[soft fulcrum]

I can't do mayo :(

[fierce moth]

Garlic fan +1, the biggest block is purchase a parmesan cheese because I have no idea what it can do else except making this sauce

[slender drift]

Why?

[soft fulcrum]

i just can't stand it for some reason

never liked it

[slender drift]

I don't like caramel.
I can understand your pain

[ebon meadow]

i m hooked on hellmans burger sauce , i m putting that think on anything with meat at this point

[soft fulcrum]

parmesan can be used on everything

[south gust]

grate it onto salad, top pizza or garlic bread with it, bake it into a bread. it's pretty flexible

[soft fulcrum]

oh yeah 100% make some garlic bread to go with your alfredo

[ebon meadow]

chiken with garlick durum hmm

[slender drift]

@soft fulcrum I am huge fan of penguin and I love your picture

[soft fulcrum]

hahahah thank you

he's cute right

[slender drift]

Yes

I wonder how penguin taste

[soft fulcrum]

D:

[south gust]

Oh no... it's happening again

[ebon meadow]

xdd

[slender drift]

I love them! But I wonder how they taste

It's like horse, I like them, I even ride them as a kid. But horse meat taste so good 😭😭

[ebon meadow]

i dont think they white meat like chiken so guessing like steak , wery hard one

and eww a lil bit not a fan of exotic meats

[slender drift]

I'll probably never taste a penguin

[ebon meadow]

ask Tesco´s lmao

[slender drift]

Iam French and I never tried pigeon or frog 🐸
What a failure

[slender drift]

I guess he is horse rider?

[ebon meadow]

nah lol a very big supermarket line in UK

[slender drift]

And?

[ebon meadow]

had some issues with meat they sold along some other big lines

people got angry a lot

[slender drift]

In France, maybe 10 years ago.
We had FINDUS (huge frozen meat company) that sold horse meat labeled as beef, if i remember correctly.
Huge drama happened

[ebon meadow]

and btw i m south of u and i havent tasted 50% of ur country food it is to weird for my neanthertal like

[slender drift]

Pigeon and frog is gastronomic food.
French people mostly eat beef chicken and pork, and fishs.
Classic meats.

[ebon meadow]

butter courasant i can injest all day long though

[slender drift]

Courasant.
Countries goes to war for less than that... 😡

it's Croissant

[ebon meadow]

i have 3 main langs and i cant spell in any of them correctly

maybe Spanish , sorry

[slender drift]

You are from UK but live in Spain or Portugal?

[ebon meadow]

i m half russian half brit and i live in Spain xd

[slender drift]

🤯

[ebon meadow]

very long time

[slender drift]

Lol I wrote beach, but with the other banned word.
I am stupid 😂

[ebon meadow]

and in very touristic place so i can understand some French and German

[slender drift]

I live in the northest part of France, I can see England coast from the beach of my city.

[ebon meadow]

i have been to Montpelier and Toulose (i think its called) before

[slender drift]

If you plan to continue this discussion we should go private.
Montpellier and Toulouse.

[ebon meadow]

my city and i dont know why that doest display

[ebon meadow]

nah i need to play and do some stuff , back to lurk mode xdd

[slender drift]

Fine, I want to sleep but I hate to stop someone talking to me, thanks 😂

That's a huge rock in your city

Modify your message instead of spam, or talk in private.
We are probably annoying people 😂

[ebon meadow]

i should do same but if i dont tire my brain i wont sleep lol and i have work tomorrow

time to listen to music and do some breading in Ark lmao and chuck a beer or 2

people dont care in off topic we good they just lurk

[gilded elm]

Layering your defenses is extremely important in PoE. An ideal set up would have some form of:

• Avoidance (Evasion, Block etc)
• Mitigation (Armor, Resistances, Spell Suppression etc)
• Recovery (Regen, Leech etc)
  You want to be able to survive one shots, and then quickly recover any lost HP. Defenses are probably one of the most difficult things to learn as a new player without some sort of guide that explains it. I strongly recommend reading about how defenses work because this is one of the ways the game can frustrate new players (constantly getting one shot and not understanding why). There's a good article here https://maxroll.gg/poe/resources/defenses-and-defensive-layering

As a general rule, I try to aim for at least 10k Phys Max Hit in Path of Building calculator, this should allow you to survive most of the hardest hitting physical attacks. You also want a good amount of life or energy shield recovery/regen/leech to quickly recover lost HP.

Having a Guard skill like Immortal Call or Steelskin is good, but you can't really depend on them to be a core part of your defense because of cooldown. They are good for emergencies. If you're looking at your defenses in Path of Building, make sure you turn off your Guard skill so it doesn't calculate in your defenses, because you can't rely on it.

[mental talon]

Shipping can and will bring currency. Shipping is based on the value (after that patch) of the shipping AND the type of things shipped. tl;dr if you ship plants, you will get currency.

[gilded elm]

Yeah shipping actually brings a lot of currency if you actively keep up with it. I kinda hope they keep shipping in the game because it makes currency farming really easy early game

[mental talon]

I'd be very surprised if shipping went core tbh. Faustus is a given and maybe Recombinators and Runesmithing (please) but Shipping and Mappers Id be very surprised

[gilded elm]

Yeah same, it's just too much overhead. PoE suffers from "too much good content" syndrome and has to carefully choose which league features to keep lol

[mental talon]

Yeah and tbh shipping and mapping is fun, but I ain't tryna have that in the future tbh.

[gilded elm]

For sure, it's a novelty but I doubt anyone wants to do it every league. My hope is they can somehow integrate shipping into core but without the overhead of managing a whole ass town.

Runesmithing is a big one I hope they keep as well and it would be a good reason to keep shipping in some form because you want some way to acquire runes. Otherwise, I guess they could have runes obtainable as part of Expedition or something.

[keen wind]

I don't think the shipping can work well and remain interesting without the town attached at all

Without it you're left with like, ore deposits to ship, I guess

[gilded elm]

They could probably simplify the town management interface so you only have to hire workers and put them to work, you don't have to manage specifics like what crops to grow, which ores to mine etc.

And then set up shipments from there as well

Basically just streamline the whole thing so it feels less like a chore in future leagues

It seems really wasteful to remove it considering all the work that went into making it and how much people like it haha

[mental talon]

Yeah I just don't think the shipping makes much sense in the future. Getting bubblegum isn't hard it's at least easy as hell just doing Sanctum or Expedition. I could see a world where they keep Runesmithing and Faustus and just have the runes tied to some other mechanic (maybe they drop in Delve as well now from Mining Fossils or something idk just throwing stuff out there) and can have it cost Gold to Runesmith, as well as Gold to use Recombinators as well as using Faustus exchange. I honestly don't think Shipping should go core if I'm being completely honest. As a league mechanic I think it was nice and fun, but for the future it just doesn't really fit IMO. Realistically shipping especially post buff is just an AFK gather high amounts of currency+high tier bases with 0 input. I haven't played in about 5-6 days and I'm going to log in once my Gold is done and do a shipment for some free Mirror Shards and some extra Div just to have more Mirror Shards/Mirrors for Standard.

I don't think people really like shipping and more people like that it's basically AFK get insane currency which for a league is fine, but for the rest of the game's future it is not a healthy thing to have. Similar to how even though I didn't like how tedious Necropolis corpses were it was far too powerful to go core with how much it was like pre adjustment Harvest in terms of crafting power

[gilded elm]

Oh I agree it's very powerful as it is, but I do think there is value in having some kind of system to "passively" earn currency, especially early on. I think if they kept shipping, it would have to be nerfed for sure.

If they do keep it, shipping shouldn't be used for late game currency farming IMO

[keen wind]

Pull a chaotic neutral, bring back gravecrafting

[mental talon]

Screw that might as well bring back pre nerf Harvest and Eternal Orbs if they're going to let us print gear we want. 📊

[gilded elm]

smh not gonna miss all the dumbass crew lol

[mental talon]

Haha yeah won't miss that. I do wonder what is going to follow this league though because man this league just felt like such a banger and the next league is probably December and that winter league is usually cooking. Coming from a league we got Recombinators back, people basically passively printed Mirrors, insane Strength of new base items, Melee totems getting literally deleted from existence like idk how you follow up after that lmao

[desert jasper]

Ah, I missed the food talk

[fierce moth]

I see why this game don't friendly for new players at all now. This game can torture new players a lot on defense only, otherwise your damage is another new big topic

The most important thing...You only can create a new character to start again if you made too many mistakes on passive trees. Another things like gems and gears still can be switched.

[gilded elm]

Yeah, PoE's respec is very punishing for new players who have not yet reached end game content where you have more access to respec currency. Do you have any Orbs of Regret?

Oh, and you can respec with Gold at Faustus too.

[desert jasper]

Was gonna go to the gym early in the morning but my card didn't work at the door
Went for a walk instead.

[fierce moth]

🙃 Only can pick one from purity of elements and determination is annoying...

I lack both of armor and elemental resistance

[gilded elm]

Purity of Elements is more useful for elemental ailment immunity. If you need resists, just craft them onto your gear. That's the easiest for a lower level character.

[fierce moth]

sigh

[gilded elm]

[fierce moth]

the second time to get nothing

These crews doesn't know how much I want more currency at all :(

[gilded elm]

Try not to have any risk% if you want to reduce shipment issues.

[fierce moth]

I can't offer a gem again :(

[gilded elm]

If you need Alteration Orbs, you can buy them from a vendor for 4x Augmentation Orbs each, or by selling a lot of identified rare items (which gives you alteration shards, which combine into orbs at 20 stacks)

[fierce moth]

You must know the chain of currency clearly and see why I can't offer it

[gilded elm]

You might also have cards for currency/orbs

Can also trade for them in the Currency Exchange at Faustus

[fierce moth]

When will enemy deal chaos damage?

😵 I don't have the ability to balance four resistence at all, really. Three of them is the limit

[gilded elm]

They already do, but chaos damage is generally balanced around your chaos resistance being lower than your elemental resistances.

For example, you can see in Path of Building that the standard boss attack damage has a lower base chaos damage than physical or elemental.

There are many enemies that will do a lot of chaos damage, but they are less common.

You can see a short list of monsters here https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Chaos_damage#Monsters
Or a much more comprehensive list here https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/List_of_enemies_using_chaos_damage

[fierce moth]

then -30% chaos resistance kill me always really

I even can't cap all elemental resistance then the game give me another challenge

[gilded elm]

Depends which monster killed you, but I bet it's not chaos damage that keeps killing you.

Unless you are dying to poison, which is a form of chaos damage.

[fierce moth]

...I want to set my build on a build planner then i find pob.in but this website restricted me to log in...

I just want to learn how to import my build to pob...

[desert jasper]

At the top you type your account name to that empty field and then pick the character

[fierce moth]

Thanks 🫡

Waiting the retrieval be done

........

[fierce moth]

Then go back to this problem after I want to check out why my account is private

[gilded elm]

Are you able to log into pathofexile.com at all?

[fierce moth]

I can't

[gilded elm]

Maybe need to use a VPN to access the website? Seems like it's doing country blocking?

[fierce moth]

Switched from Hong Kong to Singapore, the same result

🙃 My love of poe is done until the support respond me. Alright, due to poe even don't allow me to import my guild to pob and ask for help, time to return to le

(I had tried the lv.33 labyrinth, even enemies there can kill me easily so I can sure it's the fault of chaos resistance)

Hope my poe account go back normal status before poe 2 is out...

[slender drift]

😂😂😂

[slender drift]

Amazing photo 😳

[desert jasper]

Ty

[slender drift]

No one noticed it 😂 i had to reply to it. it's an amazing shot

[vagrant topaz]

😵 It is beautiful!

[thorn nacelle]

Garlic is bis mate.

[fierce moth]

Oh get it...I open VPN and active net booster at the same time so I can't log in poe account...Solved!

Why the retrieval take such a long time...

Couldn't resolve the host name

......What the hell

[fierce moth]

https://poeplanner.com/b/OAJ

My build is live on a website finally... Want to ask any possibilities to keep playing it by increasing defence without changing gears.
Current resistance and armor is the best already... 😢 Had tried all guard skill gems I can get too. I want to get more chaos resistance indeed but I need to pass Izaro at first and I even can't close to that room.

[gilded elm]

Do you have a Path of Building link?

I don't know how to import a PoEPlanner build into PoB

[gilded elm]

Just calculating off of raw values, you're paper thin. You have no life.

You probably don't need Zealotry, that's taking up a lot of reservation and I'm guessing isn't giving you a whole lot in return at this early stage of the game.

You shouldn't need Precision either.

You have a bunch of guard skill gems, you should only have one because only one can be active at a time.

And they all share the same cooldown.

[hexed stream]

@fierce moth here's a bait for you, d4 this season is really good

[gilded elm]

Your passive tree is overly focused on damage at this stage of your progression, I think

Also most uniques are just not that great, so you shouldn't feel like you have to use them when you can craft something that maybe does less damage but has better defenses (especially something you can craft your own resistances onto)

[thorn nacelle]

@fierce mothSo Kirra you turned Off-Topic into Poe-Topic is something atleast 😄
thanks to your info here noticed that did so good that never played Poe.

[fierce moth]

lol food-topic have been here earlier today :)

[fierce moth]

Yeah I'm like a fly to explore where the exit is

[ocean rivet]

It was delicious

[fierce moth]

Well my salty baked chicken leg and wing is yummy too 👀

[fierce moth]

who did so good never played poe? You?

[thorn nacelle]

oh really? Cool 🙂

i mean it like see many similarities Poe and D2 so will stick with D2 till the day something decent arrives into the market.

[fierce moth]

I'll not that one at least. Oh let me check out if battle net still works so bad

Had play le a while this afternoon actually (and I seen the fastest support respond from a game studio in history)

Ok battlenet still can't be downloaded. Nice

[ocean rivet]

Game is fine

[thorn nacelle]

btw u can go to Battle net app settings

and change the downloading process

put everythink at maximum

[fierce moth]

Yeah I can't dowload the app :)

[thorn nacelle]

hmm strange takes seconds to download the app..

but u used to play diablo 4 so?

[fierce moth]

Yeah and I guess the latest dlc update kills everything lol

[thorn nacelle]

so since u played Diablo 4 means that App should be already installed except u unistalled the app too.

just choose which game and try to install it again

[fierce moth]

yeah I want to install it again to verify

[thorn nacelle]

my diablo 4 is unistalled just playing diablo 2 offline as i used to so 4 years now

[fierce moth]

Their app just too amazing :)

[thorn nacelle]

also if u wanna play d4 again there are 2 ways to install d4 the heavy and the light version.

choose the light version except u play games in a monster PC set up still difference is small

but u have to pay for the expansion i think

[thorn nacelle]

yes indeed. wish their games where amazing too. 😂

[fierce moth]

oh? A powerful item for Izaro's mirrors?

[thorn nacelle]

@fierce moth Microtransaction App.

Red Dead Redemption gets released 29.10 for PC.
Was thinking to buy it but 50 Euros for 14 years old game sounds bit too much to me.
Assume will wait bit longer for special offer(normal price). 🙂

[gilded elm]

https://pobb.in/r5p6jbbKr8Qm This is an extremely basic set up that will probably work for where you are in the campaign. The gear is very common trash you can easily find or gamble yourself, you just have to craft any missing resistances.

Should be fine for your current campaign progress, enough to tank any single instance of big damage and quickly recover: 140 life per second regen, 60 energy shield per second regen, and 360 energy shield leech per second.

Resistances and Phys Damage Reduction aren't capped, but they don't need capped yet at this point of the campaign.

Raw life/energy shield and recovery (leech, regen) are much more useful right now than a few small % of resistances.

Just realized that you would still have 13 skill points left over with that build, so that's a lot of room to work with for either damage or more defence.

[fierce moth]

lol such various logics for playing a witch really...Diversity is rich

21% reduce charges on use. Well new goal 👍

[gilded elm]

The flask modifiers aren't really that important this early. But the type of flasks can be very important, for example Jade and Granite flasks can be very good right now.

You go from 0 to over 60% evade chance while the Jade flask is active, just from the flat evasion rating (against monsters of your level)

And the Granite flask takes you from 60% -> 80% phys damage reduction against monsters your level.

Eventually, much later on (when you have a lot more energy shield) you can choose to allocate Chaos Inoculation for complete chaos immunity.

[fierce moth]

I'm trying this skill tree (I don't know what's mine damage)

Struggling on traps in today's labyrinth now (died 3 times)

Different layout in different days is quite interesting actually even I'm bad at evading traps lol

[gilded elm]

Most people have builds that just walk through traps, usually you have enough recovery for that.

So dying to traps often is a pretty big sign you have a defense problem.

[fierce moth]

no, I had tried to pass this type of trap. Well 3rd failed lol

The switch move quite slowly and I must stay in the cricle and I must avoid dangerous around...Ok I can't do all of them

[gilded elm]

Yeah, but the traps don't really hurt that bad usually. Most builds can either face tank them or only have to minimally try to avoid some damage.

[thorn nacelle]

i think we could add couple nodes more.. looks so empty..

[gilded elm]

This is on the hardest labyrinth with my very poorly geared character lol

[fierce moth]

lol I even don't understand what are you doing in this video

[gilded elm]

Standing in a trap, face tanking the trap and a pack of monsters. Doing nothing, just standing still lol

[fierce moth]

D:

[gilded elm]

Basically, dying to traps is very unusual and not that common with a decent defensive setup

[fierce moth]

?...Why...No asscendence points even I'm here :(

[mental talon]

The same tier Lab you did already will not give Ascendancy points

You need to do 1 higher every time

With Uber lab giving the last 2

[fierce moth]

D: -> ):

[gilded elm]

Yeah, this is why it's recommended to do your 2nd lab before killing Act 5 boss and your 3rd lab before killing Act 10 boss, if possible. Because your resistances go down -30% once in Act 5 and once in Act 10

[fierce moth]

Me: Died at 3s

[mental talon]

Also to add on to what Byteflux was saying, in PoE defenses are extremely important. Health is a big defensive layer until you can get better gear with higher tiers of armor/energy shield etc. even if for example I plan on going CI I usually start as a 5-6k HP character while getting my gear better for example.

[gilded elm]

IMO casters are kinda hard for a new player going into the game almost completely blind, phys damage reduction is just such a huge part of the game.

[twilit mountain]

I hate the armor system because of this ^^^^

[gilded elm]

Yeah, Max Life is easily the most valuable affix during campaign leveling.

[gilded elm]

And also why items like Lightning Coil are so damn popular lol

Phys Reduction needs some reworking to be more easily accessible outside of armour because you're kinda forced into investing into armour during leveling, there's basically no substitute.

[mental talon]

Also doesnt help that this league almost every Phys taken As got removed outside of a select few lol.

[gilded elm]

Seems excessive to remove sources of phys damage shifting when there's already so few.

I don't really play casters, but do they even have good, early sources of Endurance?

[twilit mountain]

Enduring Cry?

[gilded elm]

There's the quality bonus from Warlord's Mark too, 0-5% chance on hit to gain Endurance charge lol

But gem quality is probably not a great early game way to get something... especially when it's only 5% at 20 quality lol

[fierce moth]

What the hell is that????????... Completely can't pass here under its attack. Cold damage?

This map is super big so i must go through a long long long long long long path to reach here then killed by this enemy

🙃 Super disappointed

[gilded elm]

Indeed, PoE loves to punish players harshly when they're doing something wrong. Such as losing XP when you die, or having to redo the entire lab when you die.

Probably a good opportunity to regear and respec to not be so squishy lol

[fierce moth]

I announce** I like the campaign of le the best** since now

The punishment in POE even worse than D4 🙃

Alright I just died again even I max my elemental resistance by guard skills. Damn

[gilded elm]

It's almost always physical damage that kills people lol

Phys reduction is just too big to ignore

That's why armour is so valuable in campaign, and why life is basically always valuable

[gilded elm]

Sheesh, this modifier took way too long to find and unveil lol

[hexed stream]

giving up and giving in when

[fierce moth]

?

[gilded elm]

Love the cartography strongbox loot explosions lol

Gotta make sure those lazy mappers aren't slacking in town

[ocean rivet]

Museum maps

[fierce moth]

I see Aaron playing a new ARPG calls Jötunnslayer: Hordes of Hel, which on the list of next festival. Good, games on to do list +1

[fierce moth]

Ok will try it today, it looks like a good game for practicing movement skills that I'm struggling it in poe so hard

[mental talon]

I wish I could cryosleep until PoE 2 early access 😭

[hexed stream]

again, not arpg

just like the last game you mentioned he was playing

it's very simple @fierce moth if you play it wave by wave and acquire new powers every wave, 3 choose 1 or 2 choose 1, it's not arpg

don't let the genre tag in steam deceive you

[narrow token]

That sounds like one of those roguelike/roguelite games.

[hexed stream]

yeah, can just call it vampire survivors game

[blissful token]

Sounds like crimsonland

[real sable]

I played this today, it's a very average survivors clone

nothing special to write home about

if you'd like a more complete package with actual meta progression, check out soulstone survivors, that one is a very complete survivors game (tons of characters, each with different skill/talent/builds to farm out)

[fierce moth]

What the core difference between roguelite games and Diablo-like action roleplay games?

[fierce moth]

Do you join in any guilds or all of storages is farmed by yourself?

[fierce moth]

(I'm surprised this game only can use controller to play because it can't click the ground or use any traversal skills to move)

[fierce moth]

Talking about this one⬆️

[hexed stream]

for diablo like, the skills you use are planned, not picked between waves of enemies

and the itemization, itemization for roguelike is like primary school math, but for diablo like is calculus

basically there's some randomness in the loot you get, but every skill you use is deterministic

that's why every arpg has a planner, but almost none of the roguelike does

[slender drift]

Best survivors!
I wish God of Weapons had success... The game mechanic was so fun

[fierce moth]

Ok the try is done 🫡 The max survival time is 10:01

[fierce moth]

To be honest. Understand 40%.

basically there's some randomness in the loot you get, but every skill you use is deterministic

Stick on that. Both of them are randomly on loots yeah, what's determinstic skill you mean

[true goblet]

deterministic means if you use certain skills more often, you might get more drops related to that skill, while still having randomized loot

[thorn nacelle]

Google maps..😅

[ocean rivet]

If there is a mod for changing the item names then you could change one of the map names to Google maps

[thorn nacelle]

If u have a look what Kirra posted about Poe skill tree is very close to Google maps for sure😂

[ocean rivet]

That's not Google maps, that's streetview

[thorn nacelle]

yes that had in my mind but forget was called : StreetView omegakekW 😄

how cooking is same is with games. Simple thinks do the difference. Complicated thinks are just boring.

[ocean rivet]

If cooking is complicated then you're doing it wrong

[ebon meadow]

Acknowledging the streetview meme POB is literally like a gps that u set up driving somewhere u haven't been to

[fierce moth]

No worries, I read them 👍

Yeah I'm asking roguelite and Diablo-like ARPG. Survival games not on my list

[sand wigeon]

roguelite’s and diablo-likes are two very different things

but if you want some recommendations for rogue-lites, i’ve played… most of them

but rogue-lites are typically not a casual experience

[twilit mountain]

Not survival games. Survivors games. They're a particular subset of roguelites popularized by the game Vampire Survivors.

[sand wigeon]

yeah

[fierce moth]

The pity is I don't play much games on these types so my understanding for your opinions is limited

[sand wigeon]

i played my first one on the xbox 360 tho

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, it's older than the popularization for sure, it's just that they had little traction before VS popped up

[sand wigeon]

yeah

[sand wigeon]

i’ve already failed to explain it so

[fierce moth]

🤷‍♀️ 100% Newbie

[twilit mountain]

Meanwhile more standard roguelites/roguelikes have had a lot of very popular entries; Hades, Binding of Isaac, Enter The Gungeon, Risk of Rain, etc etc.

[twilit mountain]

Baba Is You

[fierce moth]

Their common is...The level of brain-blowing is hard

[sand wigeon]

Kirra, look at the game called the Fire in the Flood

[twilit mountain]

Oh hey, I have that. Haven't played it, but I have it

[sand wigeon]

it’s not a very popular rogue-lite but it’s not difficult and i think you’d enjoy the art

[sand wigeon]

i’ve played it yeah

[fierce moth]

lol lmaoooooo

Are you kidding me...lmaooo one of games from Curve games

[sand wigeon]

Enter the Gungeon is one of the more difficult rogue-lites but the difficulty can also be entirely negated by skill, unlike some others

[sand wigeon]

?

[fierce moth]

This world just too amazing... lol come back to Curve games again

For the king series is the brand game of Curve games

[sand wigeon]

Kingdom: Two Crowns?

The DLC it just got, is that way you mean?

What is a Curve game

[fierce moth]

Here. #2 and #3 is for the king series

The publisher

[sand wigeon]

Ah, I see

https://store.steampowered.com/app/318600/The_Flame_in_the_Flood/

In case anyone else is curious

[fierce moth]

... Perfect loop yeah. The pity is I can't go back the connection of Curve games

[sand wigeon]

You should play Rogue /s

[fierce moth]

I started to play le when I'm tried at boring gameplay of for the king 2 in fact...

[sand wigeon]

I’m NGL the gameplay of LE is some of the most repetitive, mind-numbing stuff out there

[fierce moth]

Well well well too much coincidence in this world

[sand wigeon]

(Don’t)

(I love Rogue, Rogue was my first experience with the rogue-like genre thanks to my father)

(But it’s really dated)

Same reason I can’t suggest anyone to go okay King’s Field

[fierce moth]

The art of the flame in the flood is top as a game released in 2016 yeah. Especially it's an indie game

No outdated even look back it in 2024