📚┃off-topic

[hexed stream]

screenshot of wegame right after you go inside, full of black myth wukong

steam china, no matter how you look at it, sunset hill idk what tf is that game but that's definitely not black myth wukong

I mean, for a country that has social media equal to facebook, a search engine equal to google, why is it a surprise to you that people in china play games from a game store that's not steam?

[thorn nacelle]

Tbh why we need this info what china does or from where chinese play their games?

Or why this convo is going about confused 😂 Wow had 12 million players once and what😅

Personally dont care if i pay 10-30 euro more for a game that is good made and actually worth it.
Now what Companies earn or which people playing their games or what they believe is the last think that i care as a costumer.

[sand wigeon]

I was just curious my guy, damn

[fierce moth]

The game become more interesting. Unlock tier 3 of the world!

🤣 敌人更难缠* （Enemies are more hard）

[fierce moth]

Yeah this description is right because I'd died triple times in the first prioritized quest I did lol

[thorn nacelle]

Yes all good just saying xD

[fierce moth]

Easier to down my health and golem's health by their attack obviously...I guess I need to get more armor now

[sand wigeon]

Not you DW

[hexed stream]

ah I see teal color resource, you are good old necromancer

[thorn nacelle]

Yes if you play D4 for first time its hard 😉 btw what lvl u was when u killed Lilith? Wt3 at lvl30-40 wt4 at lvl 50 till 100. Just do 1 Helltide get full geared then move to Wt4 ez going

Or did u leveled to 100 in Wt2? Have seen people lvl80-90 wt2 🤭

[sand wigeon]

That sounds awful

[thorn nacelle]

You earn more exp at wt3 and wt4. Always leveled wt2 till 30 lvl then wt3 at lvl40 then wt4 at lvl50 something

Always mobs was 10-20lvls higher than me

Same was boosting people s3 with my Sorc/Barb. Average 4-6 hours from 1 to 100.

S5 assume leveling is like 2-3 hours to 100 solo.

[fierce moth]

you mean essence?

[hexed stream]

yeah, just look at resource color you know what class is that

[fierce moth]

lv.52. emmm wait open the game at first

lv.52 when killed the Lilith, Lv.53 start the journey in tier 3 of the world

Emmmm so lv.30-lv.40 enter to tier 3 sounds as same as you start grinding monoliths in lv.30 (it's too crazy)

[fierce moth]

then maybe I know why the same colour for the necrotic spells in LE

[thorn nacelle]

Lvl52 with yellow gear killed Lilith ok 😂

Never started grinding Monoliths or push eckos before lvl90 though.

[fierce moth]

😅 ...damn meet the first boss fight which I can't pass...

Need to repair my gears for the first time

[hexed stream]

hang on, anyone greek here

[desert jasper]

zanzil is, I think?

[hexed stream]

oh it's him, was planning to ask him what he thinks about TQ2, since the game is greek theme

[fierce moth]

Took a nap and change a skill then I'd passed the dungeon 😄 Alright still need the help of skeleton army

[desert jasper]

Naps are good

[fierce moth]

What I realized is I made the same mistake when I played necromancer as the first class in LE...The fault is I want to kill enemies by myself as the main and as less as minions. Then...the efficiency is too slow when enemy's health is more

[thorn nacelle]

Hey, i didnt watched further for info about Titan Quest 2 cause wanna see how they build it once it gets released.

[fierce moth]

🙏 Finally pass the hell area. There's a little thing is I'd met waves of volcanic balls fall down and I'm dead by them several times 😅 But this area full of juicy rewards...Gained lots of materials, guides and advanced gears here.

[hexed stream]

got some stream on them but most in german so I gave up
EA is in winter, not sure which country's winter though

[thorn nacelle]

I can German too

i saw 1 video with german speaker talking about Titan Quest 2 only negative he said was about the abilities (caster) and that they show 1 boss fight only at their trailer.

I cant say anythink till game gets released. Isnt only spells that matters in 1 arpg game.
Many thinks matters story-music-game progress-endgame-optimization-chat? etc

For example when i played Assasin Creed Odysey which also has copy-paste the Greek Mythology they did good job

first part atleast.

Also i read on the internet that early access beta arrives in 2024. means they pushing it in order to release it early 2025.

[hexed stream]

no, EA for arpg genre is different from EA for other genre

EA in late 2024 usually means that game won't be ready until somewhere in 2026

[fierce moth]

Emmmm I consumed it then I quit and restart the game but...The item isn't in my inventory once I come back

[thorn nacelle]

@fierce mothhave Skulm if u need good Necro build.

is oldschool content maker since d1-d2

[fierce moth]

I wonder how am I go on the quest now 😵

[thorn nacelle]

Greek Mithology is perfect to craft arpg or rpg game for many reasons. Gods had unique abilities aka Medusa if u watch her u become stone.

reason titan quest 1 had only possitive feedback or so far what i have heard.

so after so many years and specially with so many arpgs around they have to do good job or its gg for them.

now if it gets released 2025 or 2026 which i believe not but still not in rush mode. Good thinks require time to be completed.

Also that u can build each skill however u like is big +

feels rekt when gots released. moar keybidings! ❤️

[hexed stream]

it's aways good reception if you fulfill your promise about the game being in line with the mythology you borrow from

TQ1 is one example, black myth wukong is another

[thorn nacelle]

everybody borrows copy-paste nowdays ideas.

point is the result and if u are doing this with love

aka professional artist.

[hexed stream]

hey, do you see the symbols deep inside the boxes of QWER

[thorn nacelle]

this is demo

its like 200% better vs d4 already

they copy d2 UI if u see it

i am rpg player dont wanna press 1 button sorry 😄

[hexed stream]

which? TQ2? nah, in the TQ discord everyone thinks it copies LE UI

[thorn nacelle]

assume u think minimap 😄

[hexed stream]

and the skill tab somewhat resembles d3

[thorn nacelle]

its 8 keybidings there free. LE doesnt have so many

D2 had even more

[hexed stream]

quite many of them in TQ discord hate the hp/mp globe, they want good old bar

[thorn nacelle]

who cares what people hate or love

games not made for everybody. nobody is forced to play it.

[hexed stream]

so true, play what you like, don't touch what you dislike

[thorn nacelle]

yep 🙂

[hexed stream]

can't wait for TQ2 EA

I've sticked thru GD EA, then LE EA

[thorn nacelle]

thats wow gameplay + 15 more keybidings.

[hexed stream]

mmoarpg is the mother of piano playstyle

[thorn nacelle]

wsad-123456-shift-1 etc.

rtzufghcv

then with Shift-Ctrl manipulate the already keybidings again 😄

maintime watch your pot timers based on your raid group speed mixed with Cooldowns in right time and Extra Grenades/Sappers
Assist tank and dps same time.
its called multi-Zugzug machine

[fierce moth]

What these seeds for?

[hexed stream]

get some pvp cosmetics

once you get those, it's useless

[thorn nacelle]

Cosmetics are meh

only in Shop are cool! guess why!

its milking time xD

pvp is fun tho go do it Kirra!

just if u see Sorc teleport to city.

[hexed stream]

some non-paid cosmetics are nice too, like the free ones you get from season journey, look decent enough

[thorn nacelle]

after 5 seasons maybe

cause season 5 its unistalled. too much space not worth

[fierce moth]

Ahah...Cosmetics...

[thorn nacelle]

fishing 🎣

[hexed stream]

space? nah it got worse season by season

[fierce moth]

I don't like any pvp gameplay to be honest because I'll never win lol

And...no friends with me 🤷‍♀️

[thorn nacelle]

my ssd has only games that i play the most otherwise no reason to be there.

you have to try Kirra first

[fierce moth]

Let me figure out if any extra pve gameplay in this game 🤭

[thorn nacelle]

was playing Barbarian and did first pvp vs content maker pvp mode only and i didnt know 😄

I was full PvE aka Boss-Dungeons Build and He was full stun-life steal PvP build->(which become s4 the pushing build meta in pve too) pits

losing is not bad think instead u become better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEtHDlEirgY watch this it will help you a lot.

@fierce moth

[fierce moth]

What I learnt is...I learn nothing

[thorn nacelle]

This season is Bone spirit and not Minion.

Minion was s4. D4 goes like this each season since release.

just sended an example if u wanna see something. its not in Chinese tho sorry.

[fierce moth]

Oh the boss I'm finding is appeared then I can kill it at least. Thank you. No idea what the rank for though 😅

[thorn nacelle]

thats why sended the Video can copy his build and problem solved till u learn the game later on

have a solution for each of your problem. reason i am Chef.

joking rofl xD

[hexed stream]

bone spirit is reall hard to gear, so I suggest blood surge instead

also another S tier build

https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/tier-list
@fierce moth here's the tier list with the best guides in the game

[thorn nacelle]

Real hard to gear means you have to play the game more. ok

[fierce moth]

I can find these skills on the skill panel but...Which that red skill is?

[thorn nacelle]

played Necro for 20-30hours s4

thats the most broken ability in the game. almost near Sorc brokeness.

[fierce moth]

Season 4?...Alright I 'd missed

[thorn nacelle]

i send you what is bis. now you choose your path

Season 4 Necro had crazy peak and was S tier by pushing Pits till late season.

[fierce moth]

What I'm interested in is how can he keep enough essance is available all the time

[thorn nacelle]

was cause of a broken Elixir. each season there is a bug-broken think dunno about s5

[hexed stream]

well in that case I suggest minion bone spear, it's mid tier only but essence management is easy

it's in the tier list I sent you, have leveling guide, midgame guide, endgame guide

[thorn nacelle]

@fierce moth

assume he has no essence issues xD

There are plenty build makers so either u choose one or read each spell-paragon by your self.

[hexed stream]

bone spirit indeed has no essence issue.....only after all gears and affixes are in place

so before that better find another build

[jade jackal]

So, after trivializing the game with Lightning Spear, what should i level

It seems people like what Rogues can do, maybe one of those

[fierce moth]

ohhhhh blood skills...Well I'd ignored this skill type completely

[thorn nacelle]

[hexed stream]

I'm at the 6th char for the season already, currently doing heartseeker rogue

[hexed stream]

whyyy

[fierce moth]

lol 🤣

[thorn nacelle]

[jade jackal]

I have an Andariel, maybe ill start with that

[fierce moth]

I'm bad at discovering good skills lol

[thorn nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-john-travolta-lost-where-wtf-gif-2960190602159759801

cant post even gifs...

[hexed stream]

that build doesn't use andariel but shako, andariel is for barrage build

[thorn nacelle]

cause of the atk speed 🙂

rip twisting blades..

[fierce moth]

🤔 Oh so I selected the wrong skill to generate essence st the beginning...

[thorn nacelle]

Lilith is dead though

[fierce moth]

lol Too much free points have no place to go suddenly

[jade jackal]

Man, do pit boss fights get long

[thorn nacelle]

bone spirit.

@fierce moth

you dont have to be full bis to play S tier build.

[fierce moth]

🙏 Sacrified all minions is new for me definitely

[thorn nacelle]

Good luck!

[hexed stream]

not full bis but at least correct affixes, bone spirit is such a build

[fierce moth]

🤔 Figured out the most popular news this week. For game events, gamescom. For single game, black myth: WuKong.

[junior oyster]

What's that?

[indigo shadow]

I'm using Melee Flurry build

if anyone have Diablo 2? it would be great, time for that new season

[junior oyster]

PoE?

[hexed stream]

dee four

nah, d2r has been dull for several seasons, absolutely nothing new, just repeating the same old thing

[viral galleon]

its been cool playing through d2 again with great grafix but yeah, i'm glad i waited and got it on sale for cheap because idk how much i'll play it after running through baal on 2 characters.

[maiden widget]

Can't play d2r anymore really, project d2 is so much better with Vaal orbs and mapping plus way more viable builds

[hexed stream]

I need PD2 to have d2r graphics, otherwise I can't consider it

[fierce moth]

Get why I need to select suitable dungeons to clear now... Too many choices

[fierce moth]

🤭 Familiar decay circle...Black sun

[hexed stream]

you finish campaign already?

[thorn nacelle]

She said that killed Lilith at lvl52. About Aspects i rememper good ones used drop by nm100 dungeons then Helltides.
game its so easy so xD

Killing lilith with almost no skills on talent tree and yellow gear. yes 😄

btw now i noticed

Desperate Pizza Restaurant happy hour.
With 2 Pizza Salami 1 Margarita for free!

what happend to your 99$ 3 days pre release..

[fierce moth]

🙏 First time to experience the difficulty of helltide rises(?), it's fun to meet and follow a random player to slay enemies and gain more embars... He died at a random boss then I never meet another people so I keep grinding. Had gained 231 embars at last but...The event is expired :(

[maiden widget]

free wekends happened already thats not new

[hexed stream]

black myth wukong has reached 10 mil copies sold

[fierce moth]

🤭 Meet random three players with me to wait slaying the world boss. The whole progress is a group of players running around in a small zone but different locations to kill small enemies and destroy towers, then the thing is done after repeat the loop for a few waves...

[fierce moth]

Oh helltide rises. yeah this is the name!

[hexed stream]

fun fact: civ 7 is $100 for 5 days pre release, for deluxe version, and for founder's edition is $130, but they will have my money 🥲
at least the blessing is that due to regional pricing, civ 7 founder will only cost $90 in my country instead of $130

[fierce moth]

ah sad. I need to collect embars from zero again once the rises is expired :(

[fierce moth]

Another rises is done. Met a random player provides me many hearts then we have slayed the boss 5 times at least...So I owned lots of legendary items and had opened a chest which required the most embers (275) XD

This afternoon is so happy with the help from strangers... :)

The paragon is interesting...I can select 1 from 8 boards to advance my skills or damage 👀

[maiden widget]

our you know just buy civ a month later on sale and save even more and dont support predatory "early access" :p

[hexed stream]

civ doesn't have big sales until at least 3-4 years after

also I'm a su@ker for civ series

[sand wigeon]

pretty normal pricing scheme yeah

[desert jasper]

I hate how that's considered normal these days

[fierce moth]

That's impressive indeed... Never know how artists, musicians, animators, programmers and game designers cooperate to craft an immersive and smooth boss combat

[hexed stream]

why? AAA price was $60 in the 2000s, and inflation happens too

so I use inflation calculator, $60 in 2000 is equivalent to $109 in 2024
and considering they only charge $70, even after counting the cost saving of not having to issue hard installation copies like in the past, it's still a reasonable price

[desert jasper]

If only my salary went up similarly
And all the groceries didn't go up at least 1/3 or almost double in price in the last few years

But I mostly meant the "pay extra for a few days early access"

[hexed stream]

oh that, yeah it's terrible practice
but at least I can forgive civ because there's no leaderboard, no race, no whatever like d4bad

[desert jasper]

Fair enough

[viral galleon]

just wait a year for civ 7 to be on sale

[fierce moth]

alright alright alright it's annoying that slaying enemies from helltide rises now...Too many enemies in single time always and I must pay many embars to my death to receiving then my embars never can keep a long time...And just less and less if I can't find the help

[fierce moth]

🙃 No idea why my damage is too less for killing boss from rises now...The health bar reduce like a snail (lv.64 necromancer VS lv.67 boss) How much attack power and armor I need to reach the normal level under lv.64? (Why I feel stack intelligence don't work at all...)

Wait...Do all enemies from helltide rises deals fire damage so I need more fire resistance?

[maiden widget]

no its not just fire but you likely just want a bigger health pool and more defensive item abilities

[jade jackal]

Any resistance below 50% at over level 50 would make me concerned

This is a reductive multiplicative from 100% stat. At 40% resistance, you take twice the damage you would if you were at 70%

If you play an int class, your reses will be overcapped quite quickly. There are items glyphs and rolls that nearly alone do half the job

[fierce moth]

😅 yeah had collected many glyphs but don't figure out how to use them yet

[thorn nacelle]

Hey, would never pay 130euro for a game either its pre release access or normal game price. Even 90 euro is already too much.
About boss fights and graphics Black Myth Wukong with 60 euro does the job already.

is not Darksouls game but Boss fights so far where amazing. No dodge spam either. u have to time your dodge and your atks too.

game is very good optimized gaming at 2k settings everythink on High 70-75fps with my old pc set up.(2018-2019)

[hexed stream]

Not euro. USD. And that's founder's editiion. Base game is the standard $70

[sand wigeon]

I have no issues with letting people who pay extra have early access

It helps smooth out bugs before the larger swaths of players, too

[thorn nacelle]

Each person has his own idea about thinks and ofc can spend his/her money however wants.
I have enough years experience to understand why Companies do this with Editions and Pre release access scam on their games.(preparing their own trap)
If you release 1 X game shouldnt had any bugs at first place reason you ask for this amount of money.
Black Myth Wukung example its 60 euro but game is finished and has almost 0 bugs. 15hours played 0 crashes

But companies know that those kind of gamers exist on the market reason they do this. they know that are people blindless will buy anythink they will offer.

Its like u visit me at my Restaurant u have to pay 250-450 euro to eat
Food will be bad but dont worry if u pay 100 euro more then its going to be good.
Is not how thinks work in life sadly. Either u can provide quality or its gg for you.

[indigo shadow]

Diablo 4.

[junior oyster]

So they won't get in trouble for copying PoE? I assume maybe because they aren't profiting directly from the game itself

[junior oyster]

Oh I see

[maiden widget]

I mean if copying plain mechanics would get you into trouble I think anything after d2 would have big issues

[indigo shadow]

I played D2R and the game feels like POE lite, because I never experience the original D2. but Yeah, POE have a lot of D2 feel and that's why they succeed making Diablo 2 players steering away from Diablo franchise.

[junior oyster]

Nope it was Bliz that killed off their own fanbase lol

Or rather mix of both

[indigo shadow]

That's the obvious answer, but POE would be D3 for sure, same with Grim Dawn

[junior oyster]

It's the same story with stardew valley.

[indigo shadow]

and Titan's Quest.

if TQ didn't blew over? we wouldn't have Grim Dawn.

[junior oyster]

The game was initially made as a 'homage' to harvest moon games which were the GOAT of farming sims but quickly overtook any farming sim. I find it hard to find games as good looking as SV even though SV is pixelated.

[indigo shadow]

Reminded me of Cities Skyliens.

[hexed stream]

prolly done with d4, what now? d2r offline with mods or GD?

[desert jasper]

I prefer GD but I do admit to being biased

[hexed stream]

or maybe some TQ1, who knows

[desert jasper]

That works too

[fierce moth]

Searching this question on youtube and I'm just more confused because what I want to know is how to upgrade my aspects nor my gears...(I guess this part is masterworking which I don't unlock yet) I want to know it because I noticed all aspects have their ranks...

It's rank 1 only so I wonder how to up the rank...

😅 ah oh...Find another legendary item with the same aspects but higher roll to upgrade?... Alright it's as similar as affix system in LE? Well I see

[fierce moth]

This boss is pretty tricky when I has to kill it by myself...Indeed. My damage is increased today but not enough for this monster, the rises is more suitable for multiplayer...
Learnt this lesson by spent three value bafane hearts 😅

[maiden widget]

Yes it's not step by step so if you're lucky you can immediately get the fill rank when finding one with a max roll

If you use your smith to scrap items it'll upgrade the craft able one to the max one your items have

[fierce moth]

😵 I found bosses I met in random events or need something to summon will pretty hard to kill usually (Under helltide rises)

[jade jackal]

Deaths might occur in the game's tutorial (pre 100)

@fierce moth aspects upgrade on the codex when higher values are being salvaged

[thorn nacelle]

Just amazing game. 20 hours played just started chapter 3. Not only was worth it the 60 euro easy would pay 90 for this game. 20/10. Avoid guides-Videos or anythink outside from the game to spoil your fun. Game is full of secrets. Went to chap 1 to grind couple flowers and found a secret boss by doing that lol... 14% achievement was the kill.

[shy sage]

Diablo 4 season 6 stolen over 47k players from this server 🙃

[thorn nacelle]

Imagine they try so hard puting their game for free to play on steam in order to keep their playerbase active🤣

Once Poe 2 and TitanQuest 2 gets released 3 months after will know how much playerbase D4 will have😆

[sand wigeon]

D4 will always have a player-base. It’s a good game with series fans. Plus, I don’t know why ARPG fans make it so necessary to prove the games they like are better or something.

[vagrant topaz]

That is very wise of you Hallow

[shy sage]

The feeling of gazing the people amount of this community isn't good so some proof for this game is better on special areas are benefit on promoting

[hexed stream]

tribalism, or that's what they call

then there's me, a person buying and playing every arpg

[shy sage]

I suppose tribalism is neutral because every game need a group of core players to support the playtest and promotion work. Then the most group is players like you, play every ARPG and don't biased on anyone. It's the easiest to lose players from this tribal and a lot of time must spent to turn people in this tribal into core players, willing to do something help the community grow.

(You can't say D4 isn't the top ARPG from any angle due to it's a AAA game even they still will make a few mistakes)

[thorn nacelle]

Yes it will always have playerbase dunno how big tho😂 talking specially about D4. Not d2 or anythink.Time will prove me wrong or right 🙂

they make few mistakes
Wish them the best!

[sand wigeon]

I mean, I’m aware. D2 is a lot less popular than you think. It’s a dated game by today’s standards, especially because the majority of modern Diablo fans likely grew up with D3, and not D4. I’m a huge fan of some old games and series, but the modernized versions will always get more attention, it’s the unfortunate truth.

D4 is hugely successful with plenty of rotating players and a successful game. It has good voice acting, graphics, decent story and the combat feels good, which are all things younger players care about.

ARPG’s will always be niche, but out of ARPG’s, D4 is the least likely to ‘die.’ It’s the most well known outside of the core community, whether you think it should be or not, y’know?

[thorn nacelle]

Is diablo 2 less popular than d4. Coolstorybro. The fact that D2 has 1 year to see updates doesnt matter. You have to try harder to defend this ultra-trash AAA arpg D4. Is not even near what D2 provide into arpg and rpg gaming history. There isnt 1 single game rpg outthere which has not copy-paste elements from that game. Even Wow retail.

Its your though and i dont have problem with it. That D4 is what it is i dont mind personally cause so many new good arpgs are coming in the near future so np

D4 is already dead they didnt even noticed either playerbase or the devs. Just wait couple months till other arpgs gets released.

The moment you see 70euro game 1 year after release be able to play it for free or ask your friends about this game says a lot. They got their lesson

[twilit mountain]

Dude, touch grass.

[thorn nacelle]

Mooo

[small spindle]

Good luck on chapter 3

[hexed stream]

you know, roman empire shaped the whole modern western civilization, and it was also dead
influence and legagy, those factors don't translate into popularity

d2 influenced the whole arpg genre, yes, d2 is less popular than d4, also yes

saying d4 is dead, is also wrong, the only arpg nowadays that can compare to it in terms of popularity is poe, the rest combined including d2 doesn't even reach a fraction of d4

let's be real, the tens of millions of d4 players, the majority of them are too young to even know what d2 is

doubtful that they even know d3

[desert jasper]

D2 is also dated
Not saying it's a bad game, don't get me wrong
but also good luck figuring out any of the cube recipes or rune stuff on your own

[hexed stream]

or breakpoints

the fact that d4 is the only arpg in modern history to be advertised at times square, NY, easily makes it the most popular arpg of all times

even those who don't play games know about it

you don't need to be good, to be popular

quality and popularity are 2 different things

[desert jasper]

This honestly kinda reminds me of a friend of mine
He thinks Morrowind is literally the best game ever made
but I remember back when he first played it he raged so much because it explained stuff rather poorly and he kept on missing everything
these days he knows basically everything about the game so he just ends up doing same build every time

Meanwhile I tried playing that without any guides
ooh boy it was a baad time.

[hexed stream]

now you mention morrowing, I wonder when elder scrolls 6

I remember bethesda said not before 2028

[lone compass]

they need a new engine

[desert jasper]

🤷‍♂️
Honestly I don't really expect much from that game

[lone compass]

same

and if its same engine as skyrim, starfield etc its gonna be bad

plus, starfield truly sucks

so i have no hope for tes6

[desert jasper]

I mean
It's the same engine they've been using since Morrowind
They just update it
There are some good things in using the same engine but updated
Like you already know how to work with it. modders know their way around it
buut then you'll get the same or similar bugs and so on

[lone compass]

yes, let me rephrase: they need substantial upgrades to their engine

[desert jasper]

Yeah
They should do that
But they most likely will not

[lone compass]

yup. starfield truly was a chance for them to show off something new and restore some faith for their customers, yet anything they market is just lies and PR

and honestly, i dont even think that skyrim is that good either. mods are what make the game

[maiden widget]

its called free wekeend and theyve done it a lot, idk why its a bad thing either

[desert jasper]

Yeah, free weekends are good because it allows people to try the game without investment
and if they feel like getting the game good for them
and if not, nothing was really lost

[maiden widget]

its also a good game at the current sale price - even 45€ was more than worth it for me

more arpg is better tho so cant wait for TQ2 and Poe2 to see if i like the slower approach they take

[thorn nacelle]

Ty mate 😉

[desert jasper]

Hmm I might've cooked a bit too much rice

[thorn nacelle]

You forget one more Empire made from Big Alexander which his stategic method are used even to today. Aka devide and rule. More history reading is good. What is dead or alive i said about the future once other arpgs get released will be different.

Cant compare history with arpg copy-paste clown. D2//D4. As i said many times already. Each person has his/her own ideas based on his/her experiences. I have this idea and its solid whatever u say i respect but doesnt change the picture of those Devs.

Copy-paste crafting system from Indie company to your AAA arpg game they should feel shame. Anyway gl to them.

[hexed stream]

brother, d4 is in its full right to copy from d2, what do you mean

[desert jasper]

Think he means how they copied from EHG

[hexed stream]

well, like how the son looks like dad but also looks like mom?

[maiden widget]

Isnt that very far fetched to say its copy paste

[hexed stream]

inspired by and copy/paste are 2 quite different things

[lone compass]

they shouldnt feel shame, but ehg should feel proud

[hexed stream]

let's look at it this way, your country leader, because of needless pride, refuses to learn the good things from other country, is he a good or bad leader

a game franchise that can put aside its glorious past, and learn from others, is ways better than one sunk deep in nostalgic past

[desert jasper]

That's a bit too close to politics so I recommend we don't go there

[hexed stream]

agree that more history reading is good, because alexander was not the one inventing divide and rule

ancient greek and chinese had used that centuries before alexander

also, it's alexander's father that gave a name to it, divide et impera, but that didn't rule out the fact that other great civilizations had used it and had a different terms to call it

[thorn nacelle]

Yes. This rng crafting was in D2.. this masterworking think its pure from LE copy paste. Ofc u can try even more harder to def D4 but personally have no time for this. Gl and have fun

[thorn nacelle]

Yes also i agree with whatever think u type. Gl

Who was Big alexander nobody

🤣

[hexed stream]

well it's not pure copy, in LE you know what you will add, in d4 you only have somewhere from 20-33% chance to hit what you want to add

and who was big alexander?

[thorn nacelle]

Dunno go read on google.

[hexed stream]

there's only alexander the great, and his father philip 2, so, who is this big alexander again?

or do greek people add the word big in someone's name to refer to his father?

I don't see that practice in US or UK or France, so idk much

[sand wigeon]

If you think I ever said that D2 wasn't popular, or didn't alter the ARPG landscape, you're insane. Because it did! In the same way Marathon changed the landscape of first-person shooters for the rest of time- but also, I bet you just said to yourself, "what the hell is Marathon?" Just because D2 was great for the time, and changed the landscape of the genre, doesn't mean it has staying power or will 'live forever.'

Under the modern player base, which despite what you appear to think, has quite a lot of young people who never grew up on something like D2--and who may have only ever played it to understand the history--the game appears dated, clunky, is graphically bankrupt and entirely turns off the younger player base.
This doesn't make D2 bad. It doesn't necessarily make the newest game better, either. But D4 is distinctly more popular than D2 ever will be because it appeals to the sensibilities of a younger and larger group of people.

[thorn nacelle]

Do greek people? What do u think was Big Alexander? From England?

First of all we are not Greek but Hellin. Second i dont talk about politics here.

[sand wigeon]

What in gods name are you trying to say.

Who in all of the worlds people is BIG ALEXANDER

[thorn nacelle]

Last you have to try harder to def D4. Whatever u say is music to my ears. Dont ping me again otherwise u are welcome to my blocklist.

[sand wigeon]

I said nothing about D4

[thorn nacelle]

Look you have basically 0 clue about Europe

[sand wigeon]

You're as sharp as a club

No, dude, your english is just not the best and we're trying to puzzle out what you mean

[thorn nacelle]

Even Europe is Hellin word. Please go read think then type. Father bless

[hexed stream]

I don't def d4, I just say the truth, it may not win about quality contest but it wins popularity contest for sure, against d2

[thorn nacelle]

Same i write the truth.
Thats what i saw at release and 4 seasons after.
Thats my solid opinion and remains like this.

[hexed stream]

your opinion doesn't change fact

[thorn nacelle]

Cant compare d2 with d4. What fact,

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, I'm not sure we said we care about your opinion when you're arguing in bad faith

[sand wigeon]

I can and did

[hexed stream]

popularity, you said yourself that d2 is more popular

[thorn nacelle]

You are 2 vs 1 about same think. KekE

Laters and have fun enjoy your game. Keyboard warriors

[hexed stream]

oh dear oh dear

[sand wigeon]

me when i'm in a mindthink competition and my opponent is 1984

[twilit mountain]

Y'all need to just block the guy and ignore em. He ain't discussing, he's stirring trouble.

[lone compass]

i agreed fully until the last sentence, i think if you make a claim or comparison like this you should also take into account the size and growth of the market of both releases

its no surprise d4 would be mroe popular

[sand wigeon]

I'm not comparing them at time of release, I'm comparing them now.

[lone compass]

as a whole, the gaming market has quintupled

[lone compass]

ah, then we agree

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

[hexed stream]

I argue, even compare to its own time, d2 is less popular than d4
simply because of that times square advertisement

[thorn nacelle]

Ok you are the first welcome. I seak trouble i agree. Cause i say please dont ping me.

[sand wigeon]

Please learn english

[thorn nacelle]

English that i know is already too much effort. Next time. So much i know and i please dont ping me again. Wish to have fun and good luck:)

[twilit mountain]

xdd personified.

[sand wigeon]

You know you can just turn off pings, right? Like, if pings bother you

[lone compass]

well, this is ofcourse market era dependant. blizzard stock price has gone up thousand fold between releases. and popularity is directly affected by how much money you put in marketing

[thorn nacelle]

Is so bad to share an opinion which is not the same as yours seems.

[sand wigeon]

Right click on the server, hover over notification settings and change it to mute all pings

[sand wigeon]

I have zero issues with people sharing their opinions when they are willing to discuss it. You aren't willing to discuss.

[hexed stream]

yeah, and also counting the fact that the female classmates in class, the mothers in the kitchen didn't know anything about d2 when it was released, but they did about d4
that's already 2 audiences more than d2

[thorn nacelle]

Dont have time mate and you not the only person as u see have Mr.minimap on the back too.

We can discuss private np

[hexed stream]

I'm omnipresent in every arpg, can't escape me

[sand wigeon]

You are not welcome in my dm's lol

[lone compass]

well, you can bet that when d2 released, everyone with a pc knew about it, and by extension most likely their mothers and fathers too 😄

[thorn nacelle]

Same so gl and have fun 🙂

[lone compass]

what im trying to say is, its really hard to compare popularity without taking marketing and the actual reference market into account

[sand wigeon]

Didn't you have some place to be? Aren't you busy? Go on, you can stop looking, we believe in you. D2 bad d2 bad d2 bad

[hexed stream]

and also asia, blizzard didn't have asia when d2 was released, they did when d4 was, we're talking about the largest market in the world containing more than half of the world population

[lone compass]

yes, im aware of this which is also the reason why i said its no surprise d4 is ''more popular'' than d2 at release

the market has quintupled, and if i i would have to guess i would guess that activision blizzard has more than 10 fold more money on marketing now than back then

[sand wigeon]

yeah minimap idk what you're trying to argue

[hexed stream]

btw, TQ2 is not well received right now, lots of mixed reviews

[sand wigeon]

it is impossible for d2 to have been more popular than d4 simply because of market size

relatively more popular? i'm not knowledgable enough to estimate. but any other metric than relative will always come up with d4 being more popular

[lone compass]

yeah, this

[hexed stream]

yeah, with the money blizzard had in 2023 vs 2000, even when talking about % of world population that know about these 2 games

[sand wigeon]

what

sorry can you rephrase that, idk what you mean

[hexed stream]

what I mean is that ignoring sheer numbers, even in terms of percentage, more % of world population knew about d4 at release, than d2 at release

[sand wigeon]

yes, because we're not considering things relatively

which we can't precisely do because none of us are knowledgable enough to do that off the cuff

[hexed stream]

I wonder if poe2 will pull that times square advertisement card

[sand wigeon]

i don't think poe2 will advertise itself much

everyone in the community knows about it and the series isn't beginner friendly either way

so unless the onboarding process is really good, it'd be a waste of money

[hexed stream]

this winter is really good time for arpg

[sand wigeon]

this winter is also a really good time for reading

i'll be reading :>

[hexed stream]

both, do both

you prefer paper books or ebooks?

[sand wigeon]

i wouldn't exactly have the time to do both

i prefer ebooks since i can read them in bed easier, and that is literally the only reason

aside from that, ebooks being easier to transport is nice

[hexed stream]

well, the way I do is turning the reading into listening, coz arpg is pretty mindless anyway

[sand wigeon]

i don't listen to audiobooks

plus, i don't play a ton of arpg's in the first place, since i get bored of them very fast

[hexed stream]

I see, you like a different genre then

[sand wigeon]

i play a lot of other genres, yeah

this is just my account, much less my roommate who has a similar number (we family share our libraries), so i have a lot of options

they're the one who introduced me to arpg's in a more serious capacity in the first place. i grew up with d3 but never had an interest in the genre aside from that

[hexed stream]

my gosh, 342 is crazy, I have half of that only, many are free games

[thorn nacelle]

btw do me a favor. read more about Eu history before u say anythink. its really sad to read what u say. just a tip

[sand wigeon]

go away

[hexed stream]

who is big alexander anyway

[sand wigeon]

most of mine are paid, but a lot of those are also already cheaper indie games i got on sale

[thorn nacelle]

this is the second one today. welcome to the club 🙂

[sand wigeon]

these are all the games i'm playing semi-regularly rn

[thorn nacelle]

we call it like this in my country. Great-Big whatever. anyway

[sand wigeon]

ALEXANDER THE GREAT. You were saying Alexander the Great. Who Minimap literally asked if you were talking about. Oh my god

The revelations fall upon me

I have been gifted with visions

[woven trout]

Funny to see person telling others to learn how to read and write just go blankly with non-english version of name

[hexed stream]

no I seriously thought he was talking about the father of alexander the great, philip 2, who was the one recognized for giving the name to what we know today as "divide and rule"

[sand wigeon]

i have no issue discussing with people who have poor english or limited experience but they need to be available to learn

yeah, that's fine, but when people try to puzzle out who you're talking about because we don't have any key figure named such in english, you need to work with them, not tell them to learn more about history

[thorn nacelle]

i am talking not about the Father but the son aka Alexander which he did what he did and so we learned in the school this phrase.
now it doesnt matter tbh. you said something about Roman before.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, he's called Alexander the Great in English. He's very well known, I'd doubt anyone here doesn't at least recognize the name

[hexed stream]

no, I was talking about ancient greek and ancient chinese, who practiced divide and rule before alexander the great

ancient greek didn't consider macedonian as greek anyway

[thorn nacelle]

so now this convo goes in different way. i dont wanna continue more people will join. going to be a mess.

let it be 🙂

[sand wigeon]

yeah no point in continuing, it was barely relevant

[thorn nacelle]

this is the modern propaganda politics cant say anythink either.

also not allowed here to talk about it.

[sand wigeon]

(some of these just stay in my favorites because i like them so much, even if i'm not actively playing them. These would be Book of Hours, Cultist Simulator, Scarlet Hollow and Slay the Princess)

[hexed stream]

it's not modern, it was a part of ancient greek history

[thorn nacelle]

yes but u get what i mean. has to do with Politiks anyway

[sand wigeon]

i think you not being able to discuss your politics is a blessing

[thorn nacelle]

i really enjoy the Monkey game cool story so far. was wondering how the end going to be 🙂

Wukong

[sand wigeon]

glad to hear it's good! i'll have to pick it up in a few years

[hexed stream]

meanwhile I'm more interested in how it's different from original novel

[sand wigeon]

oh, it's based off a novel? i had no idea

[thorn nacelle]

i dont wanna spoil anythink cause may u also in the future buy it and play it.

[hexed stream]

yeah, and not just any ordinary novel, it is 1 of the 4 greatest novels of ancient chinese literature

[sand wigeon]

that makes sense

[lone compass]

i heard that theres a glitch when u go ng+ that lets you do stuff that real wukong wouldve done

[thorn nacelle]

there is a glitch also in first playthrough but ofc not going to do it.

[lone compass]

like spawning hundreds of clones (which isnt something you can do normally)

[thorn nacelle]

yes this is the glytch

endless mana

[desert jasper]

You can do that on NG already

[hexed stream]

idk if the wukong in the game is the same as the wukong in the novel, or just 1 distant descendant of wukong

[thorn nacelle]

if u do this glytch u lose all the fun of the game.

better dont buy the game.

[desert jasper]

Some people enjoy breaking the games

[hexed stream]

like those top arpg players, that's what they do for a living
find broken interactions and abuse the sh!t out of them

[lone compass]

id love to roleplay lore accurate gods / demigods

instead of a streamlined less powerful one

[hexed stream]

that's why I doubt the wukong in the game is not the wukong in the novel

just a random descendant that has to power up from scratch

[lone compass]

give me stuff of legends and not 5 mirror images

[hexed stream]

and even the monkey king bar in the game is fake, the real one can be made infinitely long

[lone compass]

let me actually cloud surf

and not dash profusely

[hexed stream]

advise western audience who enjoy the game can also read the novel, it's 1 of the greatest novels in ancient chinese literature for a damn good reason, in fact many chinese people rank it the top out of 4

and it's 1 rare novel in the world that when reading backward, the story still makes sense

in fact when I first watched the trailer of the game years ago, I immediately thought the game was definitely inspired by the reading backward version of the novel

[sand wigeon]

i recommend you play everhood

(kinda sarcastic but spoilers ||you are a god, basically||)

[thorn nacelle]

yes i agree to that. some aka the majority when see the first wall will use it xD

But game isnt hard so far chapter 3 atm. i dont mind to die on a boss fight till i get the kill.

[thorn nacelle]

it was ps5 player btw 😄

[sand wigeon]

i wish i had the money to afford consoles, i'd love to have a little sit down space to play games

as opposed to the computer, where i just feel guilty for not working if i'm using

[hexed stream]

just play outside work hours and you're good, not feeling guilty

[sand wigeon]

i have no work hours, i'm self motivated

and since i'm a writer, i can't exactly turn it off in my head, as it's something that improves from constant thought

more-so i just want furniture rn, my room is awfully barren

[thorn nacelle]

Steady 1 Achievement per hour 😅 wukong

[sand wigeon]

hell yeah

[hexed stream]

I suspect by end of week 2, game will reach 20 mil copies sold

[thorn nacelle]

1.5 Counter strike remake 30mil copies easy!

Aim map Sniper 10vs10 lets go! xD

Pubg was amazing at release too. Also Hunt: Showdown 1896.
but ya nowdays is different and many cheats anyway.

[sand wigeon]

I am now done with this game (lLunacid) until the DLC

[fierce moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWCZYoy_m0 [TITAN QUEST 2 New 30 Minutes Exclusive Gameplay Demo]

😱 Don't miss it!

My angle maybe a bit odd... Notice these planks lay on the ground as the same way in LE and TQ 2

[hexed stream]

haha the TQ1 discord is complaining about the overall look of TQ2 a lot, they say look like diablo or LE

[sand wigeon]

so a modern game?

[hexed stream]

as in the look and UI, they complain that the new look loses the greek identity of TQ1

not to do with modernity, more about style

[maiden widget]

looks good to me, cant wait to play it

[fierce moth]

1. The font spoiler they're not done the polish for the UI yet, that's too simple
2. No idea why no place to show the level on the skill bar and show it on the top left instead...Not get used to it. 8 empty skill plots will be the biggest challenge for me to adapt the control because 6 skill plots is my limit, LE did a good decision
3. Item description page inspired by LE definitely but it's the past version because the frame of models (Which I appreciated LE remove it after 1.0)
4. For the way of showing all info of a class, it's origin to Diablo 4 because all info is on a page and need to scroll down
5. Many platforms exists in the environment need to climb up and down, this is one of features from Diablo 4
6. Waterfall landscape is both of D4 and LE lack of on environment design, TQ2 grab it
7. The skill tree is exclusive, follow the TQ's style so TQ's fan must hyped by that but as a newbie of TQ, I must spend some time to learn
8. The underground (dungeons) appeared in the video gives a bland feeling, too much negative space is left and nothing is placed so maybe will cause the difficulty down the expectation a bit
9. The size of map overall will closed to D4 I guess so improve movement speed still is the prioritized issue I'll consider

⬆️ Many feedback for TQ2 only and maybe helpful for how EHG adjust the content of 1.2 to accept the challenge from POE2 and TQ2's coming

🤫 Oh forget one thing, I don't see any stuff about necromancer appear in current gameplay showcase of TQ2 yet

[hexed stream]

The showcase only has 2 masteries, wait for EA

[jade jackal]

TQ2 still looks like a 2012 game to me. waiting to be surprised

[thorn nacelle]

UI has to be bit smaller about TQ2.Basic looks are decent so far middle-endgame most worrying about specially at release.

This Talent tree looks amazing tho to be creative and making builds.

its going to be my first Titan quest experience xD hype. About Poe2 seems more into darksouls mode arpg.

[thorn nacelle]

patch 1.0 will have new class aka Necro 😅

[fierce moth]

lol contract the art team is a bit hard to be honest...

Appreciated the reply. I guess they're busy at figuring out how to design environment assets for 1.2

I'm here and thinking why the art team leave such a big zone for nothing on the courtyard and the roof

[thorn nacelle]

some flowers? Mobs that killed you on previus ecko?

[fierce moth]

Question, which flowers can bloom in the desert

[fierce moth]

Good idea! This zone lack of green plants definitely. Let me help EHG to add more XD

[thorn nacelle]

instead of Healing Potion will be Tequila Shot!

Joking just love Tequila xD@fierce moth

[ember lake]

Agave can also be used to make mead 😁

[fierce moth]

The first big mistake I made in my works is made a big and empty flat roof on the architecture... So I'm confused why they don't think it's not match with the aesthetic

Who're the citizen lives in these houses is a good question...I don't know

I want to find a way to go upstairs but the art team don't provide a way

[thorn nacelle]

First time heard about Mead 😄

Yes Kirra..but the point is to clear the Ecko and move to next one asap?
Keep in mind all those extra details will add also extra space into your SSD Drive.
Example if you download the high graphics(almost no difference from the normal install) of D4 is almost 100GB if i am correct..
@fierce moth

[fierce moth]

You're right so I suppose it's the issue on which assets they want to place in this area. Anyway, I'm not in an echo :)

[fierce moth]

The waypoint spoiled it's belong to part of main story

[maiden widget]

that sounds a bit heretical unless it involves bees :p

cant beat forest honey mead tho a lot of flavours going into that

[shy sage]

Just want to ping moderators haha

[thorn nacelle]

Thats Nub job😅

@fierce moth you should give a try Black Myth Wukong since u are also from China i guess? Eitherway game is very detailed graphic wise.#singleplayer

[ember lake]

Carpenter bees do the job on agave plants. They're bigger than regular bees so can't avoid the pollen on their way to the nectar, which most other bugs can do. They get pollen stuck on them, then pollinate other plants 😁 I like bees

[viral galleon]

so are you responsible for the bee items?

[hexed stream]

tweet from an IGN staff, lol

[tawny sand]

like how they blured out the username but now the @ handle

so entirely pointless

[maiden widget]

Interesting i think i saw one of them this year for the first time and didn't even realize it was a bee 😄

[desert jasper]

I've made mead a few times before
I'd like to make more of it but honey is quite expensive

[maiden widget]

a friend also makes some every year its nice but its cheap enough to just buy it instead - i think making it yourself would mean you spend the same + need time and utensils

[desert jasper]

Oh I've the stuff to make it
I already brew wine every now and then
Would just need to get honey and some nutrients and wine yeast because I've ran out of that stuff
Also would probably get some fruits or berries to give it more flavor

Buying a bottle of it is like 20€ for 0.7L
so making my own is cheaper
just takes time

[maiden widget]

honey is so expensive here that its about the same - but you still got to find good mead you can buy, most of the stuff has added sugar/honey at the end so it's way too sweet for me

forest honey is like 9€/500g, a bottle of forest honey mead is ~7€ for 750ml, prolly a bit cheaper to make it yourself but for me it's a bit too much effort for that difference 😄

[desert jasper]

Well you see
When I make mead I make around 13L of it
The honey I use for it is about 19€ for 1.5L of it (used to be only 15€ but you know, inflation)
Now if the mead was only 7€ here I'd probably buy it more often
but since it's 20€ for the cheapest... yeaa

[maiden widget]

damn yeah makes sense - we have it good in germany with met amensis shop

[desert jasper]

Finland over here
And it's also basically impossible to find any special honey here
Like bees pollinating these specific flowers or stuff
Ah well, Finland is relatively expensive anyway

[maiden widget]

damn, rip. Bought some chestnut honey a while ago - love that stuff (just not as mead, that is pretty harsh :D)

[fierce moth]

AI growing stronger and stronger... Of course, they're need money but cheaper than hire an artist who specialize in it so I guess the side which benefit from the AI the most is micro companies (1-4 people)

[fierce moth]

🫡 WuKong will forgive me that lots of difficulty of life I still need to be passed so I can't buy it

[thorn nacelle]

I understand 😊

@maiden widget now that u said about honey.. rememper used to eat honey made in the mountains with rosmarin,thymian and any kind of wild flower was just amazing. A lot of flavors. Mostly in Eu people eating sugar syrup as Honey

cheap honey

[small spindle]

@thorn nacelle im curious. What's your progress in BM:Wukong?

[desert jasper]

Got a job interview in about 20minutes
My nerves

[vagrant topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/cheer-up-lets-go-ganbatte-gif-12752318

[ember lake]

Is that in person or online? One of my favourite reasonably priced meads is about £13 (15 Euro) online

[ember lake]

You're gonna kill it like Campaign Lagon kills travelers!! ❤️

[desert jasper]

In person
Like you can only get stronger alcohol (past 20%) from government owned store here
even if you order from other country the customs might just decide "lol nope you're not getting this until after a long legal battle"
and "legally" if you buy it from somewhere else in Europe (online) that store can't even organize how you get it. You need to do it yourself. and we also have limits on how much you can bring from other european countries if you physically do it.
Which shouldn't be a thing. but our government loves their monopoly in things

And I hope I do kill that interview. Just not a fan of teams at all.
But if I get the 2nd interview that's gonna be in person at their office

[ember lake]

Bah, Finland!

Teams can be bleh (I should know 😅 ) but I believe in you!

[desert jasper]

Last time I had a teams interview on my own pc teams didn't recognise my headset for some reason
Real fun having to fiddle with stuff during the interview

[small spindle]

Good luck on the interview!

[desert jasper]

Ty

[thorn nacelle]

During the week have less time to play cause super busy at work...
Mostly weekends i push.
I am at chapter 3 and getting rekt from that Female God which turns into Lighting Dragon also there is 1 more boss bit further away from her even more broken as she is.😂

Did respeced again and tried to boost my ressistances will give her a try again today. 3 tries so far 30-40% wipe

Funny think is even the area is on the mountain supposed those bosses to have cold atks..instead they are doing mostly lighting dmg. My life pool is around 550 and if i dont dodge 1 of her atks can 1 shot me too

[jade jackal]

Very pretty game

[fierce moth]

I'm appreciated that I can meet so many lovely people on the internet although I'm live in hell in real life. 🫂

[desert jasper]

I think the interview went well?
Will hear back next week

[hexed stream]

soon TM

[fierce moth]

Find it! Soon TM emote

[fierce moth]

👀 I entered the architecture inside

[ocean rivet]

Where's the door

[thorn nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-bye-hide-late-underground-gif-7397489

wtb Gif permission.... reee

@ocean rivetRememper to stay hydrated!

[ocean rivet]

You too just been drinking some water

Also @fierce moth did you join any other LE-related discord server in #💽┃server-share here?

[fierce moth]

Joined Volca's and BinaQc's server but both of them is quiet

hah Updates my fan art a lot this time :)

[thorn nacelle]

Had the same graphic icon appeared after 260hours in Witcher 3..lol

[fierce moth]

Wait a minute... Rendering it now and just need a bit more polishing

[thorn nacelle]

i think my cpu was giving up.

[fierce moth]

@ember lake I guess this one looks more cool than last one :)

Last one is here

Next one...Time to jump into the deep 🤔

[fierce moth]

Oh good reminder to go on learning how to play it

[shy sage]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/introducing-the-last-epoch-content-creator-program/61964
Hah interesting 😄
But artists isn't on the list because they're too less obviously

So the official member I maybe can co-op with is Foton 👀

[shy sage]

🙏 I get something suddenly...

[hexed stream]

tbh, I think the resistance against AI generated arts is pretty futile

sure some countries will make laws against AI arts, but on global scale, if you don't do it, your opponents will

so in the end, AI is the new nuclear arm race, where no country dare to miss out, fomo is real

[fierce moth]

what's fomo

[hexed stream]

Fomo on national scale, not individual

[fierce moth]

Ok, everything I want say about if my works generate by AI is in this post. https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1f3v57m/fan_art_respond_about_my_works_maybe_generate_by/

[hexed stream]

Ah that, show them the discord here as proof

[fierce moth]

🤭 yeah I just lack of an account which own many followers

[ember lake]

Holy Eterra, that's stunning! ❤️

[fierce moth]

Holy Eterra, Welcome to share it to the art team and I'm appreciated

[ember lake]

I will!

[fierce moth]

What? There's a dev had passed away!?

Oh this is the name of a passionated player who contributed this community a lot but he had gone to paradise so EHG decides to build a grave for him in game.
What a warm moment is 🕯️

[desert jasper]

Grim Dawn also has a grave for one of the supporters who died before the game came out

[fierce moth]

Alright I touched the sensitive word unfortunately

Caneer...Sigh wish him rest well in paradise. I never meet him but I can get how painful if you're illed

Interesting, I need to watch more Gavryn's videos

:( The god don't give me a chance to meet him and say hi

Find the graveyard.
RIP, Shtrak 🕯️

😵 Unfortunately I can't give my candle here... Just notice letters on the coffin...Maybe I can do something for momerizing him too

[ember lake]

That would be kind. Shtrak was before my time with EHG and Last Epoch though I know they were a huge part of the community and well loved ❤️

[fierce moth]

Someone's dead if no one remember him one day, it's not the thing I want to see it happenes

[hexed stream]

maybe dev can insert an interactable candle stand there

[fierce moth]

🤭 (...) My logic maybe a bit odd...But no offense. Just think how EHG will do if another passionate people like Shtrak is left

[jade jackal]

We used to have a very passionate EHG member here

It feels like its been eons ago, but he was special. idk what happened to him

[fierce moth]

😅 Let's be honest. I've thought the topic is if I'm dead, which stuff can I left on this world to let my friends remember me

Maybe it's why I don't want to give up the voxel art even it's not popular and no paid at all

If EHG decide to do something for him, it's enough to prove he's special :) I think it's enough

[hexed stream]

come from atoms, go to atoms

[south gust]

I love this idea. I'll be bringing it up to the team today

[fierce moth]

Is it welcomed to make a voxel art for him? Although I still struggling on how to do it...

[south gust]

Yeah go for it!

[fierce moth]

1. How long he active in this community?
2. When he start to build relationship with EHG?
3. Which thing is the most impressive between him and EHG?

I want to learn more about this legendary people

I has no idea which theme should I use on this quiet resting place... Too many ideas

[south gust]

Shtrak was a member of the community before my time by maybe a year or two,
They were one of the nicest people you could meet here and always wanted to help players learn more about the game.
The most impressive thing? Hard to say, but I'm going to go with the impact they had on the community during the beta days.

[fierce moth]

Oh which country are he come from?

[south gust]

That I do not know

[fierce moth]

lol...This world is amazing...What i missed the most is the beta days too because that's the period that devs will active at community to chat with players

And such a shame that days never can go back.

Well this is a challenge which the most free on theme...Emmm 🤔

[fierce moth]

I'm interested in did he add friends with a few EHG members on discord?

🤔 But...He's gone so he never can talk with EHG again...Fine

[south gust]

I'm not certain on this one either

[fierce moth]

No woories. EHG is happy to check out my works and feel they're amazing is enough

[thorn nacelle]

x1 playthrough was op! xD

This game was so cool to play.. Gwent!

[junior oyster]

One of those few games I installed and then immediately uninstalled

[thorn nacelle]

Was worth the story a lot of.. Gerald did the job😉

[sand wigeon]

I didn't enjoy all the goddamn sex scenes. That's an issue in CDPR games in general.

[hexed stream]

not 18+ enough

anyway, uhm, runewords are coming to d4

and I have quick look at d4 patch 2.0, it now officially becomes....d3 3.0

[hexed stream]

uhm, jah rune

enigma d4 version

[sand wigeon]

as in, you wanted more?

[hexed stream]

🤷

[hexed stream]

oh damn, dbrunski streaming

super long time no see

[fierce moth]

I heard "long time no see" is Chinlish... Will they use it too in casual?

[hexed stream]

is it? I heard my western friends saying that all the time

actually I googled it, the phrase was originated from UK

authentic english

[thorn nacelle]

Atleast they tried🤣

Enigma build exists since s3 aka Sorc endless teleport immune to dmg taken etc

[hexed stream]

you know that's not what enigma means

enigma means other classes can teleport

[thorn nacelle]

Enigma means that u teleport endless. Dont care about other classes. Said that already exist aka sorc build.

[hexed stream]

that's wrong, sorc in d2 teleports endless without enigma

[thorn nacelle]

But i agree with you cause i have no time to waste u know😂

Yes u are right!

[hexed stream]

enigma is always about other classes, not about sorc

[thorn nacelle]

Jesus we talk about d4

Go back to d2 now haha

[ocean rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184730439156506624/1278823291879948349/freddie-meowcury-michis-chilean.png?ex=66d23480&is=66d0e300&hm=1fb9af9c9f58e090e2f2b64119241a20f73d82192cfc22d2579d3ef56c6b6c8b&

[thorn nacelle]

Enigma build

[hexed stream]

there's no such thing as enigma build

[thorn nacelle]

Not the item* @ocean rivet good morning Erega ❤️

[thorn nacelle]

Yes good night.

[ocean rivet]

Morning Zanzil remember to stay hydrated

[hexed stream]

bro, you're not pretending you understand more about a game you have 10-100x less play time than me

[thorn nacelle]

Always just had a bottle of water 🙂 you too! Today its Friday

[thorn nacelle]

How u know how much playtime i have? Why u calling me bro? I have already 2 in my blocklist dont push it cause soon will be 3

[hexed stream]

and you think your block list make you somehow influential or important in this discord?

[thorn nacelle]

What i know and i dont know let it somebody else decide

Ok welcome 🙂

[hexed stream]

stop spreading fake news next time

enigma build in d4 lol, wtf is that

[desert jasper]

Just chill, please

[thorn nacelle]

@desert jasper had enough with this dunno how to call it. Always have to argue with whatever we say. Costs too much energie. Not anymore prob solved

[hexed stream]

ah yes, spreading fake news, then when receive counter-argument, calling it waste of energy

why not start with not saying weird things about what you don't know in the first place

[hexed stream]

just requote the fake news for anyone interested

anyone playing d2 before immediate knows this is the most blatant lie and misinformation anyone can spread about the runeword in specific, and the game in general

idk man, first d4 is p2w game, then a non-existent historical character called big alexander, now is about enigma runeword is mainly for sorc, not for other classes

[thorn nacelle]

Got this from friend.. funny😅

[desert jasper]

Didn't you already post that?

[hexed stream]

no change with pit, some people will still run that simply because it's the hardest scaling content, just to test their build
nmd, currently, someone still does it, but with the new change, nobody will, because everything nmd can give, horde can and can give better

[thorn nacelle]

Removed/reposted.

[ember lake]

Let me get you a better picture 🙂

[hexed stream]

man, I've used english for years and only today I learn about this word indubitable

[ember lake]

You just push the bit that hangs down and it swings around before settling on an answer, which due to the magnets inside is always 'Indubitably' 😁

[hexed stream]

not sure if I will ever use it though, all my life has been undoubtable

then place a NO in the middle

still have enough space

[thorn nacelle]

Make sense😅

[junior oyster]

Can't lie after the d3fication of d4 I'm now more interested in coming back. The only thing I want next is to have rifts and grs.
And yes I'm aware it most likely isn't going to happen.

[hexed stream]

pit is literally the new gr, minus the gambling currency

3 chances of upgrading gems I mean glyphs, no death awards 1 more chance, sounds familiar?

[jade jackal]

People don't understand that there's only 2 ways the game can go under current leadersip. Its either you suck ideas from D3 and streamline progression, or you do nothing else and lose whatever hope for improvement

Frankly, I prefer the first way. Most of what was shown is regarded as improvements.

Its also in a way understanding that people who have a problem with D4, will probably always find things to be angry about if they don't let themselves try the game and properly guage the improvements. Well, wherever the improvements are actual improvements

[thorn nacelle]

Have fun mate 🙂
To be fair played D3 on ps4 but not for many hours..
D4 to become D3 was a good idea because this game has also his fun base so why not.

[fierce moth]

@ember lake Here it's.

🤔 I want to use a soul box instead of a coffin because coffin is too hard to control.

RIP, Shtrak. Hope he goes well.

Curious about how the art team think of my works by the way

[fierce moth]

and @amber warren thank for your video to let me know this warm story 👍

[amber warren]

Ofc, that was a fun one to research and put together! Their impact on the community was immense

[fierce moth]

and I know we can't post pictures in the post which want to post on official form now 😄

[fierce moth]

🫡 Go outside to join a game event this afternoon, let's see can I bring any new players to play last epoch by my art works

[indigo shadow]

https://news.sky.com/story/us-rapper-fatman-scoop-dies-aged-53-tour-manager-says-13206910 😦

[thorn nacelle]

There is a boss at chapter 4 named : Patience.. aka Yellow Loong.
Practise is the key to improve! xD

[shy sage]

https://www.instagram.com/madmaraca?igsh=ejZkMGF1cGJ2Y2x2
I guess the environment artist EHG want is like her...
Mari is the top artist who good at different voxel art styles because she have studied animation in the university and she combine the inspiration from her hometown with voxel art well

I can't do this level of art indeed because I can't imagine it...

The only question is would she like to co-op with EHG

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/NxD2Ez

This is the favorite work from her under my eyes

It mean I like it the best

Of course, It's interesting that if environment artists in EHG know her before 😂

As her influence, she have made friends with many 3D environment artists is normal

[shy sage]

🤔 oh forget a person which I'm appreciated his skills too...
He made double commerical RPG, being the art director of Ironoak Games 9 years.
This is the website for games he made:
https://ironoakgames.com/
His name is Gordon Moran, my past voxel series, micro eyes is inspired by his work in game 👀

(I suppose his skills supposed to be shined if he can join in another team which wise on game system design and gameplay design, for the king is well done on the gameplay but the sequel isn't good at all)

These games is more simple than LE on environment art definitely because the state of how the game suppose to play

[shy sage]

Met a cute kitty in the mall

[fierce moth]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/238960/view/4615714076900195300?l=english
Path of exile hold a fan art competition. When LE will own too also? 🤔

And...This topic never will be stopped exactly, I'm curious about how to justify if it's AI generated or not too

[thorn nacelle]

instead of Picasso events improve gaming live quality

[twilit mountain]

Generally, the PoE contests like to have a few in progress pictures now that AI generated images have shown up a few times, so I would imagine the same rule could be applied here.

[fierce moth]

🤔 I don't know what this skill is but vfx looks as similar as frost claw

[junior oyster]

I'm kinda trash at poe but I finally got my 6th slot solo

[hexed stream]

T17 right? Man I detest memory game

[desert jasper]

luckily no need to beat actual maven for the 5th slot
just the 10way

[junior oyster]

Yeap

10 map bosses are so much easier lol

And better than trying to get 4 or 5way runs...

[indigo shadow]

Should i go back? I'm too excited for the incoming phase

[junior oyster]

Go back where?

[gloomy stirrup]

gamers dont care who makes the art, they cant even see it anyway because they consume it too quickly to even casually glance at "art" in games lol

[full coyote]

Has anyone else played Palworld? I've played a lot of Ark and 7 Days to Die and Pokémon, so I'm thinking I might give it a try...

[junior oyster]

It's a nice cute game

But also comes with a challenge

[indigo shadow]

I haven't launched it but you can add private server just for you and your friends or community.

Apparently only steam users can add private server, I heard that Xbox are coming too but I haven't tried it yet

[sand wigeon]

I gave it a shot an dfound it... Extremely underwhelming. I also noticed a few cases where things felt blatantly plagiaristic, namely with the "discovering a location" sound effect and font--it's almost exactly the Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom effects. I overall found it to be a pretty bog standard open-world survival crafting game that didn't really do anything unique and was very clunky. If you like open-world survival crafting games, you'll probably like it.

[hexed stream]

anyone play deadlock already? how is it?

[shy sage]

Wow catch a live Judd for the first time 😮

I'm sleeping at that time unfortunately

[shy sage]

https://youtu.be/KAOO7UQuhQU?si=bFf4lwdyxgSpjhGe

Titan quest 2 shared a video about dev commentary for the demo from gamescom

[desert jasper]

Got email today that I didn't get the job

[ember lake]

Damn, that sucks nub. I'm sorry

[desert jasper]

Ah well
Didn't exactly feel like using like... 2 & half hours for commute every day anyway
And it would've only been until the end of next month (with a "chance of it continuing)
so it wasn't a big loss anyway

[ember lake]

Oh, oh that is a long time to travel for work

[desert jasper]

Yeah
Like... some 15min of walking to trainstation, then the train
and then walking to the office
and then back in the evening

[ember lake]

Oof, no thank you! I can do a full 40 hour week, even longer if the occasion calls for it but commuting is my enemy. So thankful this is WFH.

Any other interviews?

[desert jasper]

None scheduled currently
finding a job in Finland during Summer is really hard
You'd have to basically apply in... January to get a job for summer
Because a lot of office workers are out during summer

[ember lake]

Oh that's tough, I have all my fingers crossed for you!

[desert jasper]

Cheers mate

[thorn nacelle]

Did bought but Unistalled early noticed many cheaters.

Sound wise was ultra realistic.

[sand wigeon]

Sound was vastly improved on last wipe and slightly worsened this wipe. People have reported mixed experiences with some of the sound changes made this wipe, and I have a suspicion it's linked to servers in some manner, as I've had no issues in the locally hosted PvE mode. Last wipe they added many more ambient sound effects to the environment, such as crows, which I like a lot.

Cheaters have always been a huge issue for Tarkov, and despite efforts, remain strong.

I have about 1k hours in Tarkov across two to three years, for reference.

[thorn nacelle]

Optimal traveling times for me are like 20-40mins. From home to work etc.

[sand wigeon]

I think optimal travel time is zero minutes, actually.

[desert jasper]

Need to only grind like 300k gold in PoE and I hit 24 challenges

[fierce moth]

Throwed a bunch of trash rings in my stash :)

After I realize the best usage of rings is add attributes and bonus resistance

[lone compass]

latest project

[ember lake]

That's a tune! Nice work!

[lone compass]

❤️ have a snippet of the latest version, im wrapping this up tonight

[ember lake]

Again, amazing!

[lone compass]

🫂

[fierce moth]

this comment burst me into laughing really XDDDDDDDD

I met the same case so it's friendly to see someone record it

But I had played the whole season when 1.0 is live... 🤔 Just for learning the game. This guy played 700h D4 and D2 is his childhood game so it's fine. Zero experience means must play more.

[desert jasper]

Done with the PoE league
Now to take a break from arpgs for a while

[fierce moth]

I would like to agree with this point heavily 🙏

[fierce moth]

Yeah selfloss just out yesterday and I want to play it 👀

Done the main farming work for lightning sorcerer today

[desert jasper]

Haven't heard of that
I'm thinking of going back to playing dragon's dogma 2

[fierce moth]

I'm a fan of adventure games which rich in both of story telling and puzzles, had played the last campfire, selfloss is under the same type so I wishlist it before

That guy said a good story isn't appear in LE as he expected and I agree with it

A few things I can do actually so I think which one I want the best... Purchase selfloss and play it/ Launch Guild Wars for the first time/ Start to think what should I do in next fan art of LE
🫠 24h is too less really

[desert jasper]

Sometimes it sure feels that way

[fierce moth]

Hah tell you a news: @ember lake

The thing become more interesting

[ember lake]

I might have to take a look 🙂

[fierce moth]

#💬┃general message I'm react to this message

On 90% sale now so it's a good time to play it

[ember lake]

It was actually No Mans Sky in particular, I wasn't the CM for them at any point but it did spark my interest and led me to this job 🙂

[fierce moth]

yeah you let me know how to manage a community well too

[desert jasper]

I was once asked if I would be interested in trying out CM job as intern
had to decline it because I know that I'd get really annoyed with people and would probably lash out during a bad day

Also already had a job back then

[fierce moth]

🫂 I wish I can own a job too

🤔 Confirm the echo which I want to reveal by voxel but I'm not sure its name... I can play LE a bit more then

[desert jasper]

It can be hard finding one
But got to keep applying

[ember lake]

Awww, thank you. I try my best, don't always get it right but I do my best to learn when that happens!

[fierce moth]

What story do environment artist try to tell by this zone?

I saw lots of wracked boats here so lots of citizens must died by the flood. But there's a few whole cabins to provide light so why are they stay in this place? Which priniciple are they following?

Not enough clues provided by just gaze this echo

[thorn nacelle]

LE has some funny-Hardcore elements aka tells to you to farm Harbringers.

its just another grind layer to farm 🙂

[fierce moth]

Harbinger is harder to grind without doubt because they're more hard to be slain, then if I'm dead by the try of entering its hideout once time, then it means the result that maybe I need to clear 10+ echoes and 2-3 times timeline bosses. The try have double parts, it's no sense (100% waste the eye) if you're slained under the first period.

[thorn nacelle]

point is if u have low gear or whatever try to farm Harbringers while u leveling. had more than 15 eyes and every single Monolith to 300 corruption by level 96

before this ecko boost appeared wild later on

Assume Eyes can be used if are farmed even from your alts not sure.

[fierce moth]

😂 Echo*

[thorn nacelle]

[fierce moth]

👀 I guess art team not done the work for pristine garden yet. Maybe they can just adjust the colour of water then put a few koi and lotus haha

No one will decorate their pools in their gardens by leaving it empty

The tree is which remind me of lotus and koi. Always appear in Japanese and Chinese garden

[fierce moth]

Just over 300 a bit so... Good beginning for your idea :)

[fierce moth]

😅 Just know V2ray had released to 6.57, I almost don't know how to use it after update it from 4.31 to this version...

(Of course it's a software which Chinese need the best)

Time to go back to learn how to play D4 after sleeping

[woeful ice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Y-GwM6o5M

SAO the best harem ever! xD

[fierce moth]

😆 First time to know the system language of Windows can be switched

[junior oyster]

What monstrocity is that

[fierce moth]

屏幕截图 -> screenshot on the first name after I captured a picture by the snipping tool

[junior oyster]

Is that on win11?

[fierce moth]

yeah using win 11 pro (Switched from Win 11 family)

[junior oyster]

If that's the system menu thing I'm not switching to win11

Holy moly it's friking ugly

[fierce moth]

I can hide taskbar in win 11 although it can't switch the direction, it's good :)

[junior oyster]

I also hate the Mac like taskbar location on win11

[fierce moth]

I don't like the icon-centralization layout in Win 11 too so I follow the old layout from Win 10

[sand wigeon]

Yeah you can just change that

Almost all Win11 ui can be freely changed

[sand wigeon]

(It’s the exact same as Win10 but with rounded corners)

[junior oyster]

Sorry but this looks way better?

[junior oyster]

Oh you can change it. That's nice at least.

[sand wigeon]

I mean, I said nothing about how appealing it is, I’m just describing the differences

[junior oyster]

yea fair

But my rejection was for the appeal

[sand wigeon]

I personally like the softness offered by Win11’s UI updates

I think it’s a 15 degree curve on edges?

I’ve used Win11 for about a year and a half now

[fierce moth]

🤔 I can accept both of layout of system settings and I heard win 10 will not be available on October 14, 2025 so I guess it's time to try Win 11

Oh interesting

[desert jasper]

Tbh I'm not a fan of windows 11
every update screws some setting
like audio etc

[fierce moth]

Yeah because the version which most of us using is Win 11 nor Win 11 pro. Win 11 is as same as alpha test and pro is as same as release version so...I switch it to pro

[desert jasper]

Oh I've pro

[sand wigeon]

For comparison

[junior oyster]

Why did Kirras menu look different then

[sand wigeon]

Because that's the system menu, not the display menu.

[junior oyster]

Oh I see

Well I stand corrected then

[hexed stream]

windows 12 when

[sand wigeon]

soon, probably /s

[desert jasper]

It probably will just be a malware at that point

[junior oyster]

Honestly if Steam are able to make a good enough replacement like what we have with SteamOS but optimised for other pc's I'll switch over to SteamOS

[maiden widget]

steamos is just linux with fullscreen steam client

[desert jasper]

Tbh I might just switch over to linux on my next pc
or put linux to the current one when getting a new one
But that's several years from now

[hexed stream]

I can't imagine myself having to enter command for everything I do, instead of double clicking on icons

[desert jasper]

Tbh plenty of linux stuff don't need that and work like windows that you just double click the thing and it'll work.

Though stuff like steam controller still needs a command for it to download the drivers
but after that it works as you'd expect

And steam worked without issues last time I tried
And that was with a really bad laptop that could barely even open Twitch without getting issues bcs of not enough memory

Well, it could back in the day but something changed at their end

Really just depends on what build of linux you're using
Some are more user friendly than others.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah, just saying "linux" isn't very descriptive. There's many, many mini-OS's customized for Linux.

[maiden widget]

Most are fine nowadays, I've been using kubuntu and Linux mint for years at work with 0 issues as well as a steam deck

[sand wigeon]

I think I'll probably stick to Windows, just 'cause it's what I'm familiar with and I don't have the tech know-how or commitment to effort to learn a new OS.

[maiden widget]

I'd swap if Devs stop using windows only anticheat

[sand wigeon]

Real

[junior oyster]

Nah I mean the desktop mode... unless that is what you meant

[sand wigeon]

SteamOS is literally just linux

But Steam is in big picture mode

[junior oyster]

I'm aware

[woeful ice]

👌 https://imgur.com/gallery/if-first-gen-pokemon-had-microtransactions-BIH2zQd

[hexed stream]

Guess I'll forever use windows, linux doesn't offer anything I particularly need

[silk solar]

Linux distributions have come a long way, and not just "steam os". The Steam deck has been a major factor sure, but It's really gone a long way towards being useable on desktop. At this point, if you're just a gamer (ie: not a content creator/designer/etc), it's actually surprising how many games run really well on various Linux distros thanks to Proton / Wine.

[hexed stream]

Or rather, windows doesn't cause me any inconvenience that I need another os

To me, usability is much more important than functionality

I'd even argue that if you're not a coder or tech savvy, you don't touch linux at all

Actually many coders nowadays don't even use linux anymore, they use mac os

[woeful ice]

probably because they are forced to, tbh...their jobs

[hexed stream]

Not really
Gen Z coders don't even know linux exists

And to many of them, mac is the best work machine ever, nothing comes close

I won't be surprised if linux market dwindle over the next few years

As a normal user, I never have any positive view towards linux in the first place, it's always either windows or mac os, or wait till a new superior os appears

Same reason why manual shift cars are falling into oblivion, because people prefer things to be simple for them

[woeful ice]

yeah, I was thinking of that in regards to Linux, even I don't use it because of "skill issue," lol

[hexed stream]

I'm thinking, the new os that can win against windows and mac os will have something to do with neuronlink, and by then, k&m may become relics of the past

[woeful ice]

eh I somewhat disagree, but neuronlink is kinda a hot political topic that will get worse in the future...

[hexed stream]

Not the elon musk one, I mean a better version

[woeful ice]

still, why new OS?

it's not necessary

it'll cost more to invest in too

[hexed stream]

Because someone has good idea and wants to enter the market, you never know

[woeful ice]

not if everyone keeps dumping money on AI...

[hexed stream]

Dotcom bubble incoming

[maiden widget]

that is just archlinux with most desktop stuff disabled you'd likely still want - manjaro is basically just that in user friendly

[thorn nacelle]

Chapter 6 at Wukong 🙂

[hexed stream]

Rtx 4070 super is that much expensive?

I recall buying my 3070 for like $600, not euro, how did 1 more generation and a word super make it so much more expensive 😳

[sand wigeon]

4070ti is the most used 40' series card so it'll end up being pricier iirc

I'd wait for another gen and then buy an aftermarket used 4070

[fierce moth]

Why I just can't connect my twitch account on obs

[sand wigeon]

Inconsistent internet issues

Open your cmd prompt and run:
ping localhost
if there are no issues there, run
ping twitch.tv

make sure your account is connected on obs's end, too

also, what country do you live in? that is relevant for if it's a routing issue

[fierce moth]

Oh this info is changed

[sand wigeon]

you're having routing issues

not much you can do there

at least not much i know about

make sure you're not using a vpn

[fierce moth]

Well I can't use twitch if I don't use a vpn, fine

[sand wigeon]

Why not?

[fierce moth]

the dream is killed

Chinese internet prohibits people to use discord/twitch

[sand wigeon]

Ah, yeah, you'll run into a lot of issues there

Unfortunate

in case you don't know the english terminology, keeping in mind i am not an expert, a handshake refers to establishing a baseline back-and-forth connection between the hosts. in this case, your computer and the website. a failed handshake can be caused by a lot of things, like having to go through an extensive amount of ports (this could happen if your vpn is set to a place far away or with poor routing)

it could also be an obs issue

try using streamlabs

(streamlabs is an obs fork)

[fierce moth]

Still the internet issue 🙃

[thorn nacelle]

[fierce moth]

but various themes for stream windows in streamlabs is impressive anyway. Such a pity that i can't use them because I'm too poor and internet issue...

obs for streaming the window only but streamlabs do everything for streamers

[sand wigeon]

unfortunate

[hexed stream]

Now, it shows how effective chinese great firewall is

[fierce moth]

🙃 I hate the firewall

I hate the firwall SO MUCH

[hexed stream]

Wait till they fine you lots of money and throw you into prison for using vpn, like the Brazilian government is doing

[sand wigeon]

let's not do politics

[hexed stream]

wait, is stating fact, not opinion, considered doing politics now?

I believe the original policy is to not discussing political opinion so as not to engage in needless argument
but there should be no dispute with stating a fact

[thorn nacelle]

btw game becomes even more easy at late game and also more intersting 🙂

[sand wigeon]

i think staying away from anything possibly inflammatory is recommended

[thorn nacelle]

still playing Battle stance eventhough many items boosting Pillar stance

about to craft my mythical armor. so many options to gear-play so far

[thorn nacelle]

[ebon meadow]

Streamlabs also uses local OBS setting since it's integrated in the platform ,but it does have it's downside of overloading and just breaking a lot of time ,I still prefer OG OBS just less issue

[fierce moth]

Work in progress for... I guess the answer is clear enough this time :)

Hint: This landscape is appeared at the beginning of chapter 1 and as one of echoes in monoliths too

the paving don't start yet so everywhere is soil still and a few overgrowth plants should on remain beams

I'm thinking which pattern should I craving on the tree platform

[blissful token]

Fortress Garden

[thorn nacelle]

Was reading a topic yesterday and a guy was saying about UX manager that doesnt exist in LE team. something that LE doesnt have proper optimization cause of memory licks etc

[desert jasper]

Doesn't serve any function
why would anyone build something like that in a world that's ending?

But the fossils are there for a reason

[shy sage]

Oh I see. Need to tell something by it.

[desert jasper]

Like the area might not have always been a desert.
Could've been a lush forest waaayyy back in time
or some place where dinosaurs thrived.
And then turned to desert over time as more plants died

[shy sage]

And if these fossils be replaced by these unknown structures, players will no idea what the dev team want to tell by this zone

Maybe they can as one of shapes of coral

Shaiya... MMORPG 🤔

[desert jasper]

Yes.

[shy sage]

I want to find ARPG which not too difficult on bosses killing (so I pass soul-like)

[hexed stream]

money laundering probably

[shy sage]

...

Don't be too sensitive 🙏🏻
This is one of works from Guangzhou Academy of Fine Arts only.

I mean they maybe have the common to inspire each other as game artists always come from this type of university

Hard to say which one is better, a gifted self-taught artists who owns lots of practice works and a common student from this type of university who learnt this major but less works they created

🤔 I'm thinking which point can attract the employer to hire you the most

Various hobbies? Professional skills? The own style? Your passion for this company? Your understanding of game art?

[hexed stream]

each employer is different, no general formula

I'd say, until your reputation is recognized, connection plays a much more important role than talent

[shy sage]

Indeed

[shy sage]

But you need talent to build connections too

[ivory swift]

Not always, I've seen talentless fools get hired over highly skilled masters. In some circles the ONLY thing that matters is who you know. It's a dumb system, I would change it in a second, but people are tribal.

[solar elk]

@rotund garnet Yeah New world 1st time play through with new update will be amazing for any new player and still good for older players. Many will be salty about how the game has had it's problems but this should change many peoples minds.

I know 100% many streamers that played and left will be starting on the Fresh servers.

[rotund garnet]

alright! thanks for the info

[solar elk]

no problem im waiting to jump back in to, I mained a healer/support build. I remember duoing with a bow user who went full dps he hit soooo hard but was like a glass cannon.

[rotund garnet]

hmm im mostly want pve content but thats not a problem i think

[solar elk]

Yeah same i never played pvp once, pure pve

[rotund garnet]

is it possible to do 'dungeons' alone?

[solar elk]

Yeah

[rotund garnet]

awesom

and my rtx 4060 will do i think

[solar elk]

Yeah i remember playing fine on my gtx 1080 now rtx 4070

Not sure how much changes is being made till open beta but it is meant to be better optimised than before.

[rotund garnet]

nice

[fierce moth]

oh I get it... You means people who their family members or closed friends in this cycle originally...Indeed. But for a person who out of this cycle and want to join in it, be impressive for these in-cycle people is important I suppose (value exchanging)

Provide something they need and only can get from you, this is the ticket

Get more connections in the cycle of game devs is what I need :)

[rotund garnet]

Many people say to stay away from new world.. but I will make my own opinion

[solar elk]

Yeah like me they are people that's played from day 1 and had it rough for a long while and those who has played for 1000's of hours. Since then New world has had many patches and this new change is what we wanted from day 1. If it launched with this update back when we all started i think people would be flooding the servers still.

But until this update drops who know's it sure sounds and looks like its a game changer and for those new to the game even better experience.

[rotund garnet]

So its pretty dead. But as long as its playable i will test it

[solar elk]

Yeah you got comments from players with near 7k hours in the game saying don't play it. lol it's that bad of a game you put 7k hours into it. People hated the problems but could not stay away.

Wait till open beta servers will max out again just like before.

[rotund garnet]

Haha exactly

[rotund garnet]

what will be showed?

[ivory swift]

The thing with the 7k hour players who hate the game (I only made it ~300 hours). There was a lot of hype for the game because it was the only big name MMO that was coming out for awhile. A LOT of people picked up the game because it was the only new thing on the market, and ended up sticking with it only because there wasn't any new options coming for awhile. These players are used to more complex MMO's (WoW, GW2, FF14), so realistically they would of never truly love the simpler approach New world took.

Well sure as hell not Concord lol

[rotund garnet]

awesome

[solar elk]

Ehehe true that but Covid helped boost the game to.

[ivory swift]

very true