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ah ok, not a fan of barb so I don't really care what happen to that class
π«‘ I'll give my fan arts before 08.20 because I'd like to use them to join in a game recommend salon and promote le
(Figureing out the basic angle now)
π€ People go to play Diablo 4 and stream now
Well 100% new for D4 still so i can't get what are they stream actually lol
I even don't know how to upgrade my gems
hah...Too much people better than you when you're aggressive always and want to catch up another people but...
Don't try to challenge the profession of them with your hobbies π«
Is not only the barb but everyclass gets effected of this badmade content. Instead of optimizing their content they nerfing it further and on top endless loot,mats.gold. thats an arcade mode arpg game.
but nerf what exactly? all I see are nerfs to barb and buffs to other classes
s4 was great and after a few hours of s5, I can safely say s5 is even in a better state than s4, and if you don't like the game as a whole, that's fine, each person has different taste anyway
congratula..rip
it actually cleared it lmao
i thought great now i have to do it again but no it completed it (one of the 3 quests to unlock the echo boss thingies)
Assume u never read what i type. Pits got nerfed 2 times
Yes ofc each person has his own taste about thinks. Glad that u enjoy s5 atleast π
yes, I'm glad I can enjoy multitude of things, from d4 to poe, LE, GD, TQ1
if it got nerfed, it deserves it
I think it uses the Soulsborne principle - Okay you died, but the 'You Won' message came up so it counts π
Titan quest 2 going to play for sure. Will play LE and that new game i bought couple days ago Ghost of tsusima till Titan quest 2 gets released.
About Diablo 4 prolly will give it a try again in 2030. Assume they will manage till then to fix their game.
About pits is copy-paste content from D3 still they cant bring content either its 1 shot mode or naked can clear everythink.
Last time naked could clear everything was d2, so I'm confused what are you talking about
Is there a d4 version in a parallel universe that I haven't tried?
Coz the d4 I know is so gear dependent it hurts
Go clear Ubers naked in d2 with normal class and ofc not Smiter paladin. You try to compare Diablo 2 which has 3 times more playerbase than D4? OmegakekW
Nah diablo 4 isnt gear dependent is just bad and boring. Dunno why to play arcade mode arpg cause is named Diablo 4 but has nothing to do with Diablo 2. Story wise music wise cutsceens wise doesnt come even close. At least they tried π
3 times more playerbase? again, in some parallel universe I don't know about
older generations and their nostalgic obsession with d2, laughable
d2 if it were to release this day and age, wouldn't even sell past 500k copies
nothing about d2 cutscenes or music is any special, they were memorable because the game was its only kind at that time, simple as that
and pls tell the community next time when you smoke weed, because it really shows when you say d4 isn't gear dependent
the freaking game won't even let you level up to 10, not mentioning leaving wt2 or touching endgame, without gears
and why does it has anything to do with d2 besides the lore? it's a modern game released for modern people, older ones, who care
from hindsight view, a new person playing d2 nowadays will find it merely a 5/10 game, a position no different from d4
and with the mindless zooming using teleport/enigma, d2 is the epitome of arcade you talk about, an even worse level of zooming than poe
a mid quality game somehow praised to god level by nostalgic bunch of fanatics
meanwhile any arpg released after 2010 (minus d3) is easily far better than d2
@hexed stream this post shows that u have no idea. Sad
Yeah sorry but disagree - especially the soundtrack is so well done and memorable compared to what we get now as were the cutscenes
Dunno really what this guy talking. He played 1-3 seasons online d2 with full of bots and p2w and he/she believes that was diablo experience. Go play offline naked with 0 trades and if be able to clear ubers and hell mode so easy let me know. In any way if u compare d2 with d4 huge difference in everythink. Ofc diablo 2 doesnt have shop dayli changing with new outfits to buy for 25-50 euros thats why. I am going to lose my hairs here kekW
this shows that you're stuck with the past, simple as that
And dont say Poe anothet d2 clone. Please
nothing about d2 music or cutscene is well done, it's mid at best
it's memorable for the reason I mentioned, but it's not well done
d2 bad
Why would it not be well done, you didn't really say anything but that you don't like it
why would it be well done?
well done for the 2000s era maybe, but this year is 2024
anything well done in the 2000s is only mid level in 2020s
and newer games are made for newer generations, newer tastes, and I appreciate that
statistics doesn't lie, which all companies rely on, not just gaming companies
I'm going to remind chat that we are allowed to disagree, but we will disagree respectfully.
Idk the songs just match the environments a lot, it's not some weird epic orchestra song after another like they did in D4 where none of the tracks really clung to me
nothing about d2 music clung to me
I've seen better, and I can't look back
music matching enviroment is 1 of the easiest things to do in game design, nothing to praise about
maybe it was something worth praising back in the 2000s, but not today, it's just the baseline
Poe still buddy is on holidays still so I'll start D4 when he's back
Ahhh gotcha.
duck recommended me for a new melee build for this season but I'm having a lot of fun playing this build.
but I have a feeling that either Range Rogue is imbalance or dev hates Range Rogue π
heartseeker was super fun last season - gotta try my first sorc this time around
oh you mean in LE - i did falconer ballista (not the explode) last league and it was pretty fun but mana drained hard
Yeah
wow, a fellow heartseeker, too bad build was gutted, I mean, fixed
this season I'm having fun with the new chain lightning pants, and I swear, it's the best leveling I have in any arpg so far
Yes Ave always. Personally not going waste my time here. π
Already said too much.
work in progress, I'd like to say the environment light is the most tricky thing to reveal π
This update (add legendary potential) suppose to the greatest one in history. Most of fun from gamble is from this change I'll say.
Good night!
I guess I reached the limit of spoiler...Go further will not give EHG a surprise then so it's the last one
Those are awesome! I can't wait to see the finished results π
im bouncing between D4 s5 and LE C2.
I ran out of stuffs to do in LE C2 after 1 week, and poe league is taxing me with health and fomo, so d4 so far
Best movie ever: Borderlands
After not touching this game since it launched (pre-season), I have to say, wow, what a massively improved game D4 is. My only problem with it is being way too generous on items
and leveling is just trivial.
a bit, but GA items are still rare enough, similar to t6-7 items of LE
They confidently put more luck and grind dependent mechanics in the game, much like LE
there's an actual loot hunt
All in all, nearly finishing my sorc leveling, massive improvements all around
tons and tons of endgame activities compared to the bare, naked launch state
I feel like it needs more build archetypes though. Can't be much of a battle mage in D4 unfortunately. And still no monk which makes me very sad.
next season there will be monk, or similar to it haha
Probably the best find I've ever had
I have seen 2 kinds of frost, 2 kinds of lightning and 2 kinds of fire Sorcs on the battlefields so far. That's 6 builds people run endgame
Fair? bottom line? that's more than most ARPGs can wish for
They are very formulaic, but they exist
diablo is never a game about complexity like poe or LE, it's a game about simplicity, always has been
I wouldn't put LE's complexity far above current D4, in all honesty
There are more skill specific choices, but there are also obvious skill specific choices
But yeah, its a very simple game, always has been
The payoff is that instead of playing a board game, or a stat simulator, you get to enjoy combat
Yeah, even sir Brevik said Diablo 1 passed the Mom's test. I wouldn't say LE is complicated but there's a specific stuff you need to do to get some OP
To me, Diablo has always been more about its art, setting and story than anything.
In term of that yeah, but for gameplay, it just plug and play for us
Casual and accessible, diablo has always been, may not be deep and complex, but the title doesn't need to appeal to that niche market
You should watch War Stories of Diablo, it is a neat history of the game, That's where I got the term "Mom Test". even Diablo supposed to be turn based Rogue and Avalon Hill.
Not Roguelike, the original Roguelike game, Rogue.
Sadly couldn't enjoy d1 even though I was given a free copy
D1 being inspired by Rogue does not surprise me
I could've enjoyed it, if I experienced it on first hand.
Yeah, I've seen and been thru too much before playing d1, it dumped down the experience too much
Reva, the only thing difference was original S&Synapse/Blizzard forced them to change to RT thanks to Warcraft 1.
I believe other than Doom and ID stuff, Diablo was the first box office hit on PC. Even with Diablo 2 came out? Diablo 1 is still in the top 10 charts
Baldur's Gate 1 wasn't far behind and did pretty well
is that a spam?
Yeah, BG is great as F
I never played BG because I'm not a fan of tabletop RPG, but I got into D&D when I was 27.
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I get that. I tried BG3 but didn't really enjoy it.
(I'm generally too young for BG1 or BG2, though I do own a physical copy of BG1.)
Sorry I still can't reveal the environment light completely but I guess this one looks great too?
FIRST FAN ART for last epoch. Enjoy! @ember lake
(Posted it on INS, pinged the official, what I want is a like. This is the link. https://www.instagram.com/p/C-iTAmNy-xS/ )
This zone not be done yet I suppose because architectures on this zone is what I don't build in this work although I'd tried π
So ... I'll do the other one on the same zone :)
(The luminious window and the pattern on the ground should tell the answer about which zone I'm trying to reveal)
π Let me post the first post about le's fan art on ins lol
β¬οΈ I'm done finally :) @small sky
π€ I believe this one is much better than any fan art for ftk 2 because my skills and aesthetics are improved per work I did
Last epoch is too perfect. I don't have any ideas on how to build my first game yet π€
Oooo, I believe the mods and Dev would love this.
I just realized my PC is not on recommendation for the game. π
Yeah I hope Judd will check it out soon
Dungeons are overwhelming if i want to clear all of them under I don't own my horse yet
You should get the horse first tbh
No idea how to find the location of that quest...lol
You should get the quest for it in Kyovashad stablemaster
π€ I'm here
Or at least that's where you get it during the campaign
what lvl are you?
lv.45
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but the question is: why do you even want to clear dungeon if it's not a nmd?
or are you trying to 100% complete side quest?
π€ I want to complete all ranks on map reputation (you can gain experience and status bonus by exploring more locations on map)
You need to reach like what? 50? I don't remember. π it's been a year
oh, you play the game for the first time right? so need to unlock all the lilith statues and the map reputation
I also saw this on Reddit! It's awesome! I also noticed on Reddit a team member saw it π
Yeah 100% newbie π
Hope Judd enjoy it too π
Oh just checked my reddit, yeah a few people noticed it βΊοΈ
They're very smart that figured out the correct answer quickly π
The cages were a bit of a give away, they don't appear in too many places π
I forgot to sell my goodies
What Steve plan to do? (I remember Steve is the moderator of the official account on ins?)
My desire is get a free like from EHG.
π Alright no one from EHG reply on current case...
Maybe it's a new case they never meet before? π€
if something was missed in discord, please fill out a modmail or support ticket π
oh support ticket. good reminder
π€ hah fan art channel is existed before but never come back. Such a pity...
I want to know another artists who created fan arts for le to be honest
https://www.instagram.com/javad_rajabzadeh?igsh=MWNjNWZ4d3FjZG0zbg==
π€ I guess this is the temple artist who EHG want to find to hire
π€ Save his material packages on artstation at first... To be prepared when I has enough money to pay them.
β I don't know him. I just see his post on ins by the algorithm.
hey guys, I know most people here likes math and theory crafting, so if anyone is interested to play a text based war game called Open Dominion (which is a remaked game of Dominion that started in the late 90's) hit me up since we need new player. anyway sorry for this shameful plug
I'm watching the trailer of a game and see the familiar passive tree which had appeared on the past of le too π
What a surprise is...I never play this system so it's a good chance to experience
(Feel the invisible loop in game design haha, wonderful feeling)
By the way, I guess ARPG lovers and turn-based RPG lovers maybe share the same circle in general? Both of them needs your strategy from your thinking so something must common on system design
The essence is how to trigger players be addicted in numbers π
Share the same circle? Nah, I absolutely hate turn based arpg
Share more please, I'm interested π
what to share though, turn based arpg has worse itemization, worse skill and passive complexity/depth, worse combat feel, suitable for guys with 100 grandchildren and want to enjoy slow life
There was a necro content maker says Necro this season is the worst class. Then he posts 306mil crit with half naked gear. Intersting game π€£(D4)*
306 mil sounds like a joke this season
he's right actually
andariel rogue is ticking poison for 10+ bil damage on the other hand, and LS sorc while not having big numbers, also crit in the hundreds of millions and there are like 20-30 of such crit instances at any given moment
What do you mean by turned based ARPG? Like, a CRPG? Xcom, Baldur's Gate, Wasteland, etc?
something like that, and dragon age too
I think those games are mainly for the story, not for the gameplay and build making
I don't think they're very slow paced at all, having extensively played Xcom and Wasteland, with limited experience in Dragon Age and Baldur's Gate, though I didn't really like those two. I think you have a very incomplete view of those genres, tbh, because they have very deep gameplay that can be played fast or slow.
actually there can't be turn based arpg, only turn based rpg
Yeah, that's why I was confused.
I don't need a complete view to know that even the fastest turn based rpg is slower than 1 of the slowest arpg out there which is GD
I'm not talking about time to complete campaign though
I mean, depends on your build, but generally you're correct. IDK why that's a bad thing, though.
I don't say it's a bad thing, I said from beginning it's a preference thing
I don't like slow paced games
Also, a lot of CRPG's don't have... Itemization? Like, that's just not a term that's used there.
And that's perfectly okay! But when you insult the people who play a genre, it can be pretty distasteful. I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose, but it's worth remembering.
but I don't insult anyone
I merely stated the reasons why I dislike turn based rpg
which is completely my own thing, speaking for no one else
"suitable for guys with 100 grandchildren and want to enjoy slow life"
While this statement may not be inherently distasteful, it definitely is within the context and the way its intonation comes across. Anyway, in terms of CRPG, I seriously recommend XCOM or Wasteland, they're a lotta fun. GTG! Have a nice day
you view that as an insult? when it's no better than a joke
Jokes can still be insulting though
people telling d4 players are dad with 2 wives 7 kids 3 jobs all the time
Yes, that's... Toxicity.
which is fine, comedians insult all the time
with their jokes
I mean, a lot of them get flak for that too. And you're also not a comedian on-stage, you're a person on discord. And comedians also understand the structure of jokes and how to be tasteful with their jokes, the funny ones don't just say insulting stuff, there's a punchline and follow through and buildup. Y'know?
Lmao okay you're that
This age of compassion shall never come to pass, clearly
Mm-hmm
Anyway, have you tried XCOM?
no, not interested in the sub-genre nor the franchise
I think XCOM is worth playing even if you aren't interested. It was pretty foundational to the genre, but it's also quite fast paced and easy to understand. XCOM 2 goes on sale a lot, so I'd pick it up next time it's cheap and at least give it a shot.
I mainly play arpg, shooting, some rpg including souls-like, some turn based strategy, and that's it
I mean, even the best game out there, BG3 is not worth playing to me, so no other game will
Turn-based strategy? Wow, you're old, that's for like. eighty year olds who were around during the invention of the pc lol
Well that's because BG3 is very iffy and definitely not the best game out there
not the old titles, I'm mainly into civ series
oh my god your social security number must be 2. civ is like, ancient
dunno, started playing it since civ 5 I think, and already wishlist civ 7
didn't civ 5 release in like the 1900's
no idea, probably when dinosaurs were still walking in front of my house
clearly
anyone here got poe2 beta invitation already? I heard many big arpg streamers actually fail to join
do ppl have an idea of this current poe league? worth playing?
Yes! I actually really enjoy it. A lot of the stat changes have been fun, and the mechanic functions great. It pops up "clear this" things in campaign/Maps that don't take too long, and you can choose to engage with it or not. I think doing some slight settlement management between maps is really enjoyable, it's a nice break.
it was fun for 2 weeks for me, then it becomes a bit of fomo, imagine when I get sleepy at night but I look at my gold and realize no I don't have enough gold for the town to run until the next time I play it, so it becomes GGG aka grinding gold game
LMAO
so the league mechanic this time is like a colony sim or town management type thing
Yeah, pretty much. You donβt have to engage with it if you donβt want to. Also, if you donβt want to grind gold, justβ¦ Donβt? No point losing sleep over a game.
Only if u going to be top 10 in Eu as speedrunner then yes
arpg games are too casual for that. Rpg games are way more hardcore. example level from 60 to 70 straight then speedclear the content of raid first on the server or world.
was like 60-70 hours with out sleep.
Yea not a big fan of league mechanic. About the only thing I like is the shrine which gives you temporary meteors/lightning strike lol
That's why I quit the league entirely
Mmorpg to be specific, rpg is also casual as fk
π That's super fun to compare the same landscape under different HDR and details, took a few groups like this one
A hope that le give me a photo mode is spawned suddenly...
yes correct. Mmorpg. call it how u like still is an RPG means u have to level up 1 char and gear up. sorry i am old school and will remain so π
casual yes ofc for the beginners. for those who wanna pump the metters and carry whole raids is not.
only the Pvp about vanilla requires 3 months 18-22 hours per day dayli non stop. very casual
Funny fact that Wow Vanilla expansion is an old rpg-mmorpg for the new generation gamers*(that enjoy graphics and butterflys)* has so easy boss mechanics still in 2024 cant clear even the first raid.(molten core)
Did played also Hardcore had this feeling that people who choose Hardcore have atleast minimum idea about the game. was so wrong kekW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajSXxtokwF4&t=1490s this is better than Netflix. π€£
well, i wouldnt say inferior by any means, just that its way harder to achieve. one thing missing from the equation is regen/leech and most classes dont have good ways to add this natively through passives or skills so id just say its really hard to get a competetive build going @clear panther
if we are talking ward pre 1.1. then definitely inferior
well that's the reason it's inferior, because the ward character has an overall similar ceiling while hitting that ceiling very quickly.
pre 1.1 ward is a joke, like borderline cheating, some of it even was imo.
That and also regen/leech is just directly inferior to ward per second/on hit/mana spent due to ward not having a cap to this and leech/regen having a cap
i think the main issue is ward builds have really accessible go to items that just instantly enables your build
with health you need many moving pieces and stars to align on many items to work
that and ward has very strong passives form classes, where as health has very few options
yeah, agreed
personally, i think a big issue is that leech turns off when you hit full hp, no matter how much you had stored up, this basically caps you internally. Where as proactive ward gain effectively has no cap as it will just keep piling on, so the ward leech effects actually raise your max hp total to protect you from heavier hits, where as life leech just gets stifled
yeah, topping leech should have a grace period that accounts for x amount of leech overflow
i personally found this issue too with my lich, but there is a way to add 3sec of leech through warlock tree
true, but that's one class, imo overleech should just exist by default, even if it's at a reduced value
yeah, that would be a good solution
could also see items like leeching at full health grants endurance threshold, armor or whatever
that and i think passive HP regen nodes need a serious rework, because %HP regen is almost non competitive when considering the low access to flat HP regen
if you don't build flat, %1000 regen increase is like 1k hp per second right? Shoot, give me 1000% ward retention and 10 ward per second and that's genuinely near equal while also giving me max total life
yeah, flat hp regen has the same issue as mana regen
you do nothing with 200% mana regen when the base is low, its just non existent
yeah, though with mana I am more lenient as mana gain directly means more dps in all cases.
as this game's damage output in general is based on that, though I do believe mana spending classes need better access
as mana regen only helps builds with very low mana like warpath.
yeah
i made a suggestion in the suggestion forums section in discord
feel free to add up to it if you have time @clear panther
He's like: I'm going to smoke here and chill out. π @soft fulcrum
chat is so on-topic
can't send pic on #π¬βgeneral
Why do you have your song in the middle of your screen ???
asking the question we all want answer for

It's a Rainmeter skin, I put it as click through, 60% transparent, and It's great if you're using VR while streaming your monitor into the VR monitor.
You won't have any problem unless you press Shift keys and it will be clickable and drag it accidentally
Just bought a keyboard which has play-stop next-previus song buttons easy going. Spotify on the background alwaysπ
Sonic the hedgehog song 
Forget the name of the company atm.. very solid
Today outside from my work. Robot invansionπ
Vroom vroom fresh mown grass 
Oh damn, I think I'll stick with the regular mowers 
A5 isn't available so...
I guess these notebooks are enough to do some analysis/stretching for last epoch and maybe I can expand the radius of my redar on Diablo-like ARPG π

I stop using XXL mouse mat. it just.... too "egotistic"
Hands down, this is the funniest Olympics ever
Expensive meat tho 
yes one of top 2 high quality Beef on this planet xD
There is 1 more which requires 30.000 Euro License to import it to Eu. its made in Japan and only.
This kind of Beef u find only in Michelin restaurants 1/2/3 stars etc
Olympics and whole planet is at war mode almost.
Olympics its an event where introduced for first time in Ancient Greece for Peace reasons or During Peace periods and only!
Ofc nowdays everythink its translated to money.
I did order these to wear with a specific dress 
I bet the dress is just as amazing!!
This is the dress 
Secret 
but those Shoes arent too warm for Summer? xD
They're low boots 
i see 
Those will go great together! Party?
Fantasy Fair in October
I've got a fitting jacket and long sleeves to go with this
Basically all the elements of my outfit are present in those shoes
the ribbons, lace, choker...
First need to chill down after cycling, then I'll start walking 
Amazon style! 
Is it just me or does this look scream "It needs a Parasol"
Hi Wick, remember to stay hydrated 
For the first time in human history, I'm way ahead of you
That's good
keep it up
These boots are made for walking dun dun dun dun~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDmidrIDB4o ehehe 
wow I find where this scene is finally...The only zone I never see in game what has appeared in trailer
Wish game had everywhere so long view!
Zoommmm out! π
unfortunately I meet a bug then
dunno i enjoy to play rpg-arpg-mmorpg on general Rpg gerne mode games with long view.
makes my life easyer by rush clear dungeons or stack mobs then aoe.
Both types have cons and pros. In big groups aka Raids has to do about team work and its harder to achieve that Chemistry requires effort.
Solo its less painfull cause have to deal only with your self which in long term becomes also boring.
lol
the thing become more interesting now @small sky About how to max the value of my fan art
The possibility of EHG meet this thing for the first time is more π
Of course...More works I'm done and showed, more possible they'll contract me. I guess they can't believe me temporaily because they're not sure what I will give them
Hi Kirra, remember to stay hydrated 

It's not a lack of belief at all, it's just everyone who needs to discuss this is super busy and we don't know when they'll all be free to look at it, talk about it and then reach out (Planning meetings is fun π ) To make you feel a bit better though, here's the response you got when I shared your art in our chat channel π
And yes that is the CEO 
lol can feel the fun of planning meetings π«
Thanks. More cool stuff is coming soon. (Collecting inspirations from traveling in the game to build moodboard now)
π° Good noon
heello
By the way, do the picture you posted included double ones and the other one is how another EHG members react on that artwork going?
Nope, it's one screenshot from directly under the post. The top bit is the emote reacts from the team and then Judds comment. It's just how our chat program makes it easier to read posts π
To be honest I don't get it lol...
Maybe because I never see any in-discord program can highlight any posts...Post?...
It's not in Discord, different program π
Ohhhh make sense now. So EHG don't use discord as the work chat program
Yeah
14 potential,just gamble it to 0 and make an actual item lol
That cold multi and the void res are actually HOLY mods
Unless Ur not merchant xdd
Dafuq base is that anyway the icon doesn't make a thing on those mods ,to me it feels low
Bro if u see stuff like this its already game over.
Also Hype is gonne have to be super lucky now to crit 2-3 times in a row. yes if u do so then log off and go play lotto! π
i am gaming Cof this cicle and this rng with t7 items its rekting me so good π
when its normal item t5 everythink works t6 depents t7 its like never
just wanted to max Dex cause there was empty slot item had 52 Potential.
i didnt touch Void ress or Cold ress multi
the plan was to turn it into Experimental but was a coolstory π
Low base really good rolls even if it's not a bis u can still screw the game with that to a surtain extend that other builds can't
Like actually a good rolls just due the crit avoidance
nah i dont know they say they didnt nerf crafting but i believe they did
rememper cicle 1 as MG was crafting items a lot dayli
never had issues like this
dunno 350 hours maybe all those hours was lucky π
I had to much touching grass this last few month and Poe is my main game so I can't really judge but that fkn thing is god like to craft for me xdd
i just try to grab any t7 affix now as Cof in order to balance this build so can push to 1k
but this wont happend not going to grind so heavy no reason
Surely u can lol just need some dedication and not getting down by low crafts ,blast prophecys and get some crazy gear and get on that freaking leaderboard
every t7 item tried to fix failed.
Outside gaming if u play like a 6 HR a day shift u can dude its just matter of fact not getting really unlucky
for example. if u start rerolling the affixes in 1 x item dont excpect to finish every affix on the item.
Welcome to rng matrix u took both red and blue pills xdd
Is there a split method for items in le ?
split method? there is a token which u can duplicate your item but must have crafting potential aka never π
you mean duplicate it before u start crafting it
thats a not bad call tbh but have to try it. assume u lose Potential by doing this move too
its made so to grind more.
but i dont wanna grind more i wanna push more π
If it's random potential if u do that MAYBE it's worth it so u don't scrape a bis item
i rememper was using those tokens cicle 1 only if was godly craft and Slam went bad to give it one more try
aka 3lp uniques etc
Rinse and repeat is also good ,just because it prevents items to be duped and sold on market outside cof
The funny thing to me it's not even a main item like chest or head maybe
Those are gloves and holy that some stats ,it's not a ring to be game bis but still it's a build enabling item
yes mate but what is the point. somebody will be smart and get rich and what
isnt only the gear must have proper build-class whatever
Yea but as a player that just games for it self and not a streamer I would be proud of it
try hards exist on every game which of those play offline try to find exploits cause have skill issue syndrome
Like if u not making a business out of those ,just game and show of
nah just gaming no business. if i wanna do business will be not in gaming industry xD
Be like Dan in Poe be a god of making builds that not popular and just be god xdd
One item can brake a game without breaking the rules that's a peak
No leaderboard no cloud just be a god lol
yes but Dan dont have real life job i guess
I geniunly can't speak for that but u probably right ,and we are talking about hardcore player builds at this point
i mean content makers gaming 24/7 how to have a real life job
There's more than having free time
or suggar daddies
everythink its paid from Dad car from Dad then ya i am content maker too 
That's the issue with him we don't know ,this mf can have 8hr job and he is still wtf gamer
Like actually casual player that is probably best player player in Poe
Casual with a big "ISH"
there are 2 versions.
Version 1: is the complete no lifer nerd which plays the game since release non stop
Version 2: is the Chad where plays the game less but more effective.
And as softcore player that never followed him I still have to fkn bow and it hurts me 
The last one for people that read this is summit ,that guy is just good in any game that he plays
Maybe not on pro level like csgo but still he is a prodigy
to get on this level must play a lot. practise is the key
nobody born gamer
Saw that on many games either i was casual-speedrunner-first kill bloods whatever
fps games nowdays are dead
Same companies that release their games produce also Cheats for their costumers
miss old school Call of Duty 2 counter strike 1.5 lan that was fun. now play fps games and either they are camp mode + cheats or just 3k hours played with Cheats on top.
Escape from Tarkov. the game was amazing sounds like in real life. people spend 100-150 euro to get cheats.
Don't want to talk about tarkov but modern warfare 2 I have 479 days played 
i dont think that there is 1 single FPS game on this planet with out cheats nowdays.
I come from console after very log time and I played wow before since burning as main warlock
also you see people gaming fps games with controller kekW
I have lost my PS3 that was on the hacked patch when PSN got screwed and I had the best week of my life xdd
people feel bad when they lose. But thats the point to play a game. you going to lose and also win.
same goes on rpg gerne games too
they dont know 1 x game and they burn their money. money doesnt buy skill
or Intelligence π
It depends how u take the content for example valheim ,I still have my dev sword to test new content because if I have to play it legit the grind takes weeks for same thing that I did multiple times and haven't been changed ,it does change when I play in group for me
Lost ark and watching kr players wile waiting that out version will hit the same base
Actually a great game but spoiled to us with a community that have different gameplay in every single aspect
Like I follow world best raid players like judoh that actually play like watching a sincronize swimming
Valheim is my lovely rpg game. have like 100 hours there. really cool game
ofc dont have super crazy graphics omg π
those plebs nowdays are dying for graphics
I have like 600 hrs don't judge me lmao it's my therapy game
It's that or Minecraft
Valheim is to chill and build your farm do your think and even the funs made crazy stuff in 1 year.
Then you see triple AAA big trash companies cant bring content with 6000 employers
the troll is real π
there is a word saying: Fish always smells from the Head xD
Valheim is probably the only game that can sufle game graphics inside Ur mouth ,si much can be done with so little that people can't understand why it's so beautiful
Man ,have u played Conan exile ?
The game have so much potential ...
Arc is different we knew what we getting in to
nah Bloodborne-Sekiro-Elder ring-Assasin creed Odyssey cause i am Greek thats it π
Also about Lost ark nah graphics are meh
Nice I always wanted to meet a greek gamer geez
Ghost of tsusima was ok but also has Ubisoft flow elements in to it
you know to do list
The more courtys the merrier lol can't always be Turks that hard game
I m russian btw but I live in Spain
One of the best songs I heard outside gaming btw
Ghost of sushi
mm
Alright we have some heavy gamers here holy
I m enjoying
Ur fkr used to game very heavy on no log out games before I have to much respect
Game has very nice cutsceens and this warrior-samurai feeling right
first 5 hours was like i was watching a movie
Never played tsusima
just call it "ghost of sushi"
because it makes me hungry that way
so i wont say anythink more dont wanna spoil the fun
price could be bit less but whatever 10-20 euro today its like nothing
Dude
you couldn't even pay me to buy ubisoft products
i have a lot of Ubisoft games but like 80% left them in the middle
or couple of them didnt touch them at all
only assasin creed odysey played a lot
Last one I got was physical copy of prince of persian trilogy back when windows vista was a thing
and I couldn't even play the 3rd game because the DRM system didn't agree with vista, only win7
i bought Red dead 1 on ps4. Graphics not even close with Red dead 2 but seems its better game than Red dead 2
story wise atleast
not that red dead 2 was bad game. had tons of fun but their launcher is so bad
still nowdays isnt fixed
It's ghost of Bermuda song I m sorry kek https://youtu.be/i-Qg1TrO74c?si=AsIB26TZBOKTg3Jh
Anyway
I've been awake since 1am
and it's getting close to 11pm
I should probably get to sleep
I m to drunk and I want a pizza lol it's been 13 hours for me
wait u are from Turkey and u are Drunk?
will call the police! xD
Tell them to bring you Pizza too xD
Not turkey.
@ebon meadow He is i think
Nah he's not
Nahh I m russian and I live in Spain kekw , but very tourist town and I m closing a pub and grabbing a pizza
haha Russian Davai
Like I lived here for 22 years xdd
well i quit with drinking almost 10 years ago
heavy drinking ofc. 1-2 bottles dayli while was working in night clubs
cant afford losing my 120 euro driving license EU for that xD
Well if u going that way same I quit at 24 but I still get my few beers after work with 33 lol
Nah I m in the boat ,small town
Problem is that i love Wotka and in summer is not optimal cause u get even more warm
We go heavy every day ,touristic town for EU
I sometimes brew my own beer or wine
Bro if u want a chill place ,do move
they good think is that Spanish languange has over 20k Greek words so wont be hard
Bilbao is a very chill place with good fiber
yes i am thinking not going to stay for long here in Germany. max till 40
Putin will be here till then too π
No freaking way ,I can't understand anything from greek Lang if it's not old Latin at least
so wait a second u can understand Ancient Greek and not Greek? lol
man i listen people talking Spanish and can understand what they saying all around cause words are almost the same
same is in Germany when i go to Hospital same is with English copy paste
dunno why i have to learn languanges which are copy paste made from my own

Spanish-Italian-Greek have many similar words
Ancient Greek we had in school and i was 14 years old. pure headache.
very very hard languange to learn
This is love bridge in Frankfurt. It says : In the City where many languanges will be spoken. All around translate π
But thanks for the info. Yes born close from the sea have to return back there π
If it's old Latin then yes I can understand every 3rd word for the conversation but it's like Yorkshire English lol very closed
My 3 "mother langs" are russian ,English and Spanish lol literally the languages I use at home and every single day
Russian will never going to learn oh boy. seems impossible except going to work season in Norway with russian tourists
btw best Tourists in Greece are Russians
they pay and they behave π
German is probably u best bet in tourism there TBF
nah German,France they dont leave tips
Scandinavian or Russian thats it
Netherlands-Belgium getting close too
have crazy manipulation skills trust me π
I m half Brit half Russia lol I can't vouch for France sorry only gamers that been outside feel like Europe rest is very tough crowd ,my job is selling tools and installations to those people XD
used to work 3-4 summers close from Mykonos with Tourists. Luxus restaurant and yes i saw/learned to make good money
but not doing this job anymore
Greek culture and mythology is one of the best of the world btw outside the wars we had with turkey
i was mixing Holidays having fun and earn money.
you have to learn first to read people
then u can play. if u cant play then u are doing wrong job
reactions matter a lot
always Female is the boss.
If u can make tip on Germans than u good with Ur job lol they like there particular stuff
keep the Female happy and u win π
yes u can ofc not all the fingers are the same right. but on average easyer tips are made from Scandinavian or Russians
we talking about billionairs now what is 200 euro kekW
I m in very touristic place with Germans having their villas and stuff I know how to handle them ,and neither of them have balls to call me cartofen xdd
Might have to do with my grandparents having purple medals
Thats different
people living in Villas there and people travel there for 2 weeks
used to be in Villas too close from Paros. island was named Anti-Paros was only Villas with Tom Hanks etc
True but people people that travel here actually have permant villase to come back to every day ,welcome to white coast
thats another think thinking for the future. cooking for rich family in their villa or whatever. lost my eyes there lol
It's dumb u live here of tips more than salary
its so funny and sad same time. some people having so much money and others cant survive the day lol
Like legit 500β¬ every month on tips on top of vayge
I will alway say it's a county for no man without being in US , so crazy being from a place that struggles
plus my drinks smokes eat whatever include all paid
u need good kitchen small card and thats it
u must know how to sell thinks and when
0 mistakes
1 mistake and u lose everythink.
never bring the Bill into table when his Wife is at Toilet.
2 best friends are Spanish and Italian pro shefs and they still pulled out from 52 Celsius kitchen and went to building xdd
The work is not paid the effort
you are in Restaurant too? well Kitchen is feelings
Get out of there and do literally anything else u d be more human and calm
i do cook cause i love my job not about money.
Nah I m maintenance guy I fix Ur kitchen but yea I know what heat is
My last good kitchen was a 2 Michelin star thing .... Was caved inside the mountain. Doing plumber work with 30 metre slops on a ladder in august is just screwed
Where i am working now as Sous Chef we have 2 Michelin star restaurant is top 100 in Germany xD
But normal people cant afford to pay this
No air , briefing in pvc glue for hours on ladder is just fi u I ain't getting paid for it
Eu has crisis people saving money bro
ofc are those with big fat cars and small d.... but thats it all they have π
yes ofc we are lucky to be here
Looking after a water depurater for an hotel for a year doing their dirty water depuration is a skit
going off soon. the think is to be glad with what u have and always healthy. rest doesnt matter
I,m glad to learned what I did and not have to mess with human experiments at my age xdd
Now I just sell tools to pros lol
Plumbing ,power demolition,even electric lmao but I don't go in my knees anymore for anyone
Exception if I have to for my family or very close friend
I actually disagree with that
there are born gamers, just like there are born talents in many professions in life
world is not fair, effort decides how fast you reach your max potential, but talent is what decides how big that potential is
truth is, even if you give a person with no gaming talent to play game non-stop 48h per day, they will, in no manner, be able to compete with top tier esports players
maybe mid tier and below is where they can barely hold their beer
Yeah but being a pro gamer is true L no maiden behavior ong
Funny would be if u agree with anythink at all. In your answer is effort aka practise. Humanoids require practise to improve at anythink so its our nature. Ofc are those who believe that are super humans or have high intelligence cause they managed to finish 1 university. Did first blood kills with people never played with before and they also never played any game before. There isnt such a think as Talent is only how fast u can learn thinks or not. Is all about if u wanna learn something or not.
like I said, effort decides how fast you reach your potential, talent decides how big that potential is
and the best people in the world have both
wanna learn something doesn't magically make something possible
give an average man 100h per day and he still wouldn't ever be able to make some nobel prize level of research or breakthrough
my mom is also a strong believer of effort is everything, but I shut her up easily with 1 sentence "no amount of effort without talent can make a person become a billionaire from nothing, or get a nobel prize"
live long enough and I fully understand in this world, effort can get you only so far, like middle class, some average achievement, that's all, higher things require talents that most people lack, that's why such achievements are so rare
Yes i think i am also wrong. Everybody is free to believe whatever he/she likes. There is word saying: learn by doing. Seems those who found that had no idea.π
she remembered caterpillars*
A puzzle game's name
https://store.steampowered.com/app/470780/She_Remembered_Caterpillars/ I mean someone had inpired by this little creature to create a puzzle game
have a look at my art guyss, hope you all like it π
another one, I have done this DND character art for my beloved client. β€οΈ
Done this zone now π«‘ Move to next one.
(It's a GIF)
This is superb!!
Cheers
Kirra u cooking π
Reminds me of battle.on
Adventure quest
Small hiatus from today 2am to at least 12am tomorrow. we have tragic news of passing of my relative.
and there's engagement ceremony in this house so, that's why there's 22 hours hiatus.

π€ To be honest, what i like indie games the most is a player can contract with or communicate with devs easily, fairly and equally
Of course maybe another reason is indie games is the first one which I touched since I start to play games consistently
it always amazing that you can grow up with an indie game for a while or longer if this thing is accessible
I am true to my words. π I'm going to launch LE in 30 minutes
Fun fact: I unlocked this panel and actived three nodes but I still no idea how to unlock my horse lol
π€·ββοΈ oh well figure it out finally...I can't get my horse until Chapter 4...
And...Damn it. Super far away from the current waypoint. (I'm on chapter 3)
Don't get why many people said they can get their hourses when lv.20+ only. THIS IS A SUPER BIG MAP
π΅ ...Bye D4. Your route just too twisted and long and I need to sleep.

Get my horse finally π
you should try D4 at release and run with your mount into City-open world.
not that they fixed it now but had so bad pathing.. even Horse movement from Witcher 3 was better compare to that π
Gz Kirra π
I second this, the most terrible experience you've ever had with ingame mount
what's gz
Congratz I guess
lmaooooo lord surprises always full in the abbreviation
This is nothing compared to gen Z chat languague lol, it's not earth language anymore, pure martian
????? This quest is confusing...Where should I go?
...The north. Alright no way on the north is showed so I never think about that
This is sort of where user error shows a glaring presence
There are zones which meant to be searched in
No, that quest is genuinely badly designed
Lol, now we have a drama about wukong black myth being downvoted among western critics because obviously the game that is based on a several hundreds of years old Chinese novel, about Chinese culture and myth, is not inclusive and diverse enough
This is getting out of control, woke culture
First time to equip this stone, it looks a bit too heavy and clunky
If it was only the quest bad designed 
oh you're back to LE
Need to rush up my progress of fan art because the deadline is 08.24 lol
fan art? wait is that your job? sounds immensly interesting
It's my plan more than call it a job π
I want to use my voxel aesthetic to exchange something like game copy, game art book copy, game dev friends etc
Let more people know there's a art type calls voxel art is the key because it's the only hope for me to gain money by my skills possibly...
A lady who do fan arts with voxel style for indie games is the tag I want to print for myself π
Don't want this type of art dead so what I need to do is dig more hided gems in indie games and help them to shine
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2198150/Tiny_Glade/
I just find a indie game which it's similar on art style lol
These indie games can give me consistent inspiration on which kind of environment art is more suitable to put in game development too, so it's a good loop
If I can join in their development to help with translation, suggestion and management of community then it'll more cool, but they're advanced and it's up to the dev team
π€~~ The question is I will never buy this type of games~~ oh Pavilion.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892606135 No one will reject to enjoy this screenshot from the game
Of course I guess EHG art team can do this level of environment art too
Wait what game is this ? Why would u Γ‘lter a color of something based of a myth and an animal ? Such as monkey king 
And something that had skins in most games anyway
Why do you think disney made the current snow white movie where skin color of snow white has nothing to do with either snow or white?
Wolcen lords of mayhem
Sorry I was a bit sceptical asking that question ,but was genuinely curious
If it looks good and plays good who cares anyway it's just a game
Day 1 progress. Lots of works to do... But I'm happy on this version of ground anyway π«‘
now noticed if u never die by leveling u have a special title there Deathless does the Title remain if u hit lvl100?
or if u die at lvl100 gets auto-removed.
is only at Char pannel tho.
As soon as you die it disappears
π€ I guess black myth: Wu Kong is the most popular game on all over the world today
179K audiences is watching streams on twitch in this time still
Doesn't surprise me, seeing that it just came out today
This game had promoted so hard before it's released too
little do the critics know that the more they criticize the game for lack of diversity, the more people are interested
or you know the game could just look fun and most people ignore hate bait youtubers
I'm rich enough to go to gamescom per year is my dream π
International game exhibits are attractive always...
Did u bought it already?
π« No.... Sorry to say it's too expensive, Wukong. (I never read monkey king too although it's the most famous Chinese myth)
how much is it, haven't been on steam for a very long time
59.99β¬
that's AAA game price already, so really need to see how much game content it has to offer
but nowadays every soulslike game price like that, no surprise
Chinese Myth i see. ye well lets see feedback from those who already bought it and gameplay.
Not in mood also to spend so much for a game.. wait and see first xD
Chinese myth so famous, they try their best to insert it everywhere.
Not to offend anyone, it just feels like there's really too much of it sometimes.
Can't really recall anything else of similar magnitude.
2016 still price is high. But Darksouls games requires bit more focus to play xD
instead prefer less focus gaming after working day
also always Controller for darksouls
Day 2 is more details but more messy too
But at least I figured out which next step should I do
π π π I wish I own this level of skills too...
Voxel version of last epoch sounds extreme interesting though π
so long u practise you never know Kirra π
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/particles-effects/mudbun-volumetric-vfx-modeling-177891?srsltid=AfmBOoqiMNNIbzT5OvGaoiB3QdzloClRRV_12Uv3rp76kS6fT9bGKyz_
This tool is the only one which I know can help me generating volumetric models in unity.
And learn how to use unity...Another big issue which can be explored for a super long time π
I don't has the key skill yet...Design the gameplay system
Wait, maybe I can contract this developer to cooperate on making a voxel ARPG if I have the whole good idea one day lol
(Sounds very crazy indeed)
Wish had the time to learn something like this..its creative and if u do it with love cant go wrong xD
Till you reach the Artist level π
was used to cut music back then and listen 12 hours+ dayli music 1930-2000 mostly
(Blues,Rock,Funk,Jazz,Reggae,DnB,TripHop,Hiphop,Electronic,Swing,Ska,Cumbia,Country sometimes House too but find it boring and easy to mix)
mixing-cutting loops or mixing songs for 1-4 hours depents.
requires tons of time Music is endless.
My flavour on music... As similar as this musician https://www.youtube.com/@DystopianEchoes/videos
Thanks for the info, I don't think I'll get the access to playtest it though
Too much people want to test it so they must do some filter work
Necromancer, new mission coming soon!
Man, it would be really awkward to announce a new borderlands game
borderlands game?
lol Capture a value screenshot (Monkey time...Well good)
hah god had used Twitch one year at least but never knoew I can open captions on streams...
They just announced borderlands 4
What?
About 88% (estimated) of Black Myth Wukongβs concurrent players are in China, for reference.
Itβs not doing well internationally, Iβd say.
Yes we going to buy it now.. let me grab my mastercardπ
Rememper to return and check a month laterπ
It seems like a good game, itβs just that over-the-shoulder action games arenβt popular in the international market right now. From my understanding, its garnered decent interest from souls-likes fans and some other genres like action-fighting games.
Numbers tell me nothing. Banana was top 2 on charts and was just simulator clicker.
Banana is more than a simulator clicker, actually. It is a genuine scam.
Imagine clicking a banana in 2024 in order to make money. Ultra loserπ€£
Basically, the scam functions off of Steamβs community market. The entire game was developed in a way where the community market could be exploited by the dev to make money.
Those thinks was made to make people rich yes.
Smells from miles that is scam rofl
This is heavily simplified and I recommend looking into it yourself if youβre interested.
Story background is the biggest obstacle of course
Base on the Chinese myth heavily so must popular in China but it looks confusing under another countries
Gambling is addicting think. Once in time was gaming mobile games and saw how casino works by playing a gameπ
There is no luck. All is set up. Each move u do is calculated
Exactly. Overtime, people in the west have become much more introspective about other cultures and settings possible within them. Iβd frankly say that western audiences have been wanting something set in something such as Chinese Mythology, especially amongst the communities Black Myth Wukong has attracted; souls-likes, action-fighting games, etc. Take Sekiro, SIFU and Absolver as off-the-head examples. The issue is that these communities arenβt very large.
By the way you see which games are Masterpiece during the time and the playerbase. Baldurs gate 3 game was finished at release minor bugs today still has 70-80k players. Elder ring same all around, Red dead 2 if they heard the community about their broken launcher prolly will have more players and not so many cheats online mode.
Cyberpunk bad release fixed tho later on. Witcher 3 still has decent player base for 10 years old almost game.
Baldurβs Gate 3 had missing content and many bugs on release. So did Elden Ring.
About Sekiro you mentioned is hands down one of the hardest darksouls gerne games nowdays do u expect that going to havw big player base? Here people playing super mario and asking to nerf omegalol
Neither of these games are masterpieces, no matter how much theyβre loved.
I did say small communities
Hence why it isnβt performing well in the west
Did played Baldurs gate 3 and Sekiro at release. Compare to what i see today yes games had minor bugs. Game was playable and optimized
Specially Sekiro
Cause i am using 2018 gpu and running 2k graphics 80 fps everythink maxed and my pc runs smoothly means game is good optimized
I said nothing about Sekiro.
If my Pc turns into Helicopter at medium graphics means gg
Again, BG3 had missing content upon release and had many game breaking bugs I personally experienced.
Yes but Baldurs gate 3 is huge game and has 30 different endings
Respect for their work even amateur can see that they put a lot of love to make this game
So they were under crunch and the execs released the game before it was ready, yes. This impacts nothing about its release.
Personally those minor bugs didnt effect my 130hours first playthrough. Just this turn based mode is not my think. If i was Dad prolly will play it long term
I am being as objective I can about the quality of a game. Do I like BG3? No, itβs not for me, but I can understand the qualityβbut objectively, this is the state it was in on release, snd thatβs not to mention any flaws within the broader writing. Do I love Elden Ring? Initially, I didβdespite the issues upon releaseβbut my opinion has changed overtime. These things arenβt simple, theyβre a mixed bag; I see the same quality concern issues in these games get brushed off because they were treated like the next messiah. Itβs unfair to the broader industry.
But the thinks u could do with different classes and builds was amazing. Also your actions do matter a lot. Fun game
Was my first experience ever in this type of rpg. Unistalled ofc takes so much place in my Ssd.
Iβm glad you like it! Itβs a fun game for a lotta people, and hey, more fun games is always good.
But compare to Diablo 4 release example... they also ask 90 dollars for 3 days early access into their beta game lol
I see nothing wrong with that.
Thats the main reason i hate Diablo 4. Cause they try to manupulate my intelligence. They give u not finished game empty and they ask full price. Red card straight
I heard that prolly will add platinum materials on shop to buy with real money. I was 99% d4 will be trash. But my friends pushed me so hard to buy it..
The game was finished upon release, and pretending otherwise is silly. I played it in those pre-release days and the game was fully completable. It had a lacking endgame, but that can be said about any S1 ARPG, and it was clearly more about the story than previous Diablo titles.
Endgame did no exist. Horse did no behave. Every season is based on multiplicative broken powers. Lilith was bugged dunno how many times died there with my rogue cause of broken anti melee mechanics. Red color mechanics on top of red color floor. Dunno what else
Season 4 should be d4 release
The floors being red with red colors was an issue, yes.
Then maybe game had a change
It was less empty than PoE on release, or Last Epoch even now, frankly.
I love Diablo but this thinks i saw made me sad and annoyed. Problem here is are 2 big fun groups
1 group is old school aka d1/d2 gamers and the other group are the zoomers d3 or whatever else clone from D2 got released after.
Especially because of all the fully-voiced and properly written side quests in the game. There are obviously the usual issues with side quests, but there were many that were well written. Additionally, D4 is beautifully crafted visually and the main story had great voice acting.
So Devs cant make both happy
So far the second group winning and you see how D4 progress into time
And they shouldnβt. The older players will be upset no matter what, whereas a newer audience is more malleable to change. This can be good or bad.
I mean used to talk on the street with nerds of my city either old or young. Those who never played D1-D2 will never understand
And its 99% normal
Simply providing to long-time fans and older players creates a stagnant and toxic community. This is evident amongst D2 communities, due to a lack of new-player integration and toxicity toward other communities and games, including their own series.
Toxicity and humans goes always together on any game
Its from our nature this think lol
Proportionally, yes. But if itβs the majority, then no.
Any community will have toxic subsets, but when the majority is toxic, you have an issue.
Jokes aside. Speedrunned,dadrunned,casual,first blood kills leading, whatever game played in my life so far internet-Lan mode people was always annoyed and toxic to each other. Very few can control their manners and mostly have no issues with losing.
(I do just want to state, in order to make my own viewpoint clear, that I do not in any way believe humans are inherently toxic, rude, or other manner of bad trait.)
Usually are older people but not always have seen 50 years old acting like 10 cause lost his loot
We have extraordinarily different experiences, so I canβt really comment. I can also make the assumption our experiences would be inordinately different because I am a very young woman, and from what I understand, you are not a woman nor very young, which obviously leads to wildly different perspectives.
You are very young man means? XD
Very young woman?
Last think i forget to add is that from Blizzard you have high excpectations. Is not any Indie company and u expect quality not Quantity.
Sorry read wrong.
NP lmao
Is not polite to ask a female how old she is anyway π
Yeah, I understand that. I more than believe that release D4 did in fact deliver on that quality.
TBF you shouldn't be giving out your age online anyway
I am bit older and i can understand your generation too. I would be the same if i was younger. I just grow up with 1980s generation and also played in internet caffes back then was a think(early 2000s)
Mixed with Football outside and other thinks. Different times
Have nothing to afraid.. π
Yeah, internet cafes don't super exist in a lot of places now. Plenty of people still play sports though lmao
It's just general online security, especially in big public servers like this
Well in Germany walking to my work and see babies with iphone in their hands going to school
I was 19 years old when got my first phone named : Nokia
Sounds like bad parenting and nothing else.
Ya cause parents are busy and kids lose their brains with this very early on. Good part is that they learn fast new languanges but ya
Agree to that. People nowdays doing anythink to manipulate you in order to earn money from you. It is what it is. Always take care π

But i think they require more info aka your Email your real life name. Heard some crazy stories about hacks and what people are possible to do..
I am so glad that born in 80-90s π
Anyway have a nice day and thanks for the talkπ
You too
iirc, except for csgo and 1 more game I forgot that is dota2 or pubg, steamdb doesn't count players from steam china
from yesterday to today I've watched 4-5 renowned game streamers that I'm pretty sure are too rich to care about dev money, and they all ranked the game somewhere 8-9/10
a lot more westerners are interested in chinese mythology than you imagine, especially since journey to the west is 1 of the 4 most classic novels of the whole chinese literature
Again, I said nothing bad about the actual game, the game is great
SteamDB does count Chinese Players BTW. The last time they gave an answer about this was 2018, and they said they do, which is the best info we have.
I find that suspicious, because if they do count, there's no way the game will stop at 2.2mil peak concurrent players
but can be explained, chinese players are usually not so interested in souls-like games, even if it's a super easy one
Well, they do count it, so I dunno what to say
anway, good for the game, really high reception even among western streamers and their audience
asmon even gave the game 9.5/10
Sure, my only point was that the style of game Black Myth Wukong is, simply isnβt very popular amongst the western communities right now
Also, streamers arenβt a good gauge of quality in any way
Or really anything aside from entertainment TBH
The critique I assume youβre referencing was a genuinely thought-out multi-paragraph explanation on some of their issues with the diversity in the game, especially because the game comes from a development studio with intense HR issues.
This is objectively false. The language youβre using right now is also a big dog whistle for less accepting viewpoints, so Iβm going to step away from the convo, as itβs making me uncomfortable and I donβt think the mods would want it to continue. Have a good night!
I mean, if you think that way, then no review in this world is credible, except our own subjective review
unless you can prove to me otherwise
and critics, luckily, are pretty powerless in influencing players what to play and not nowadays, compared to say 10-15 years ago
pretty funny accusation isn't it, considering china is the first country in human history to adopt meritocracy on a national scale
https://www.ign.com/articles/how-black-myth-wukong-developers-history-of-sexism-is-complicating-its-journey-to-the-west
You can read it or not. I finished my work anyway, so Iβma get some rest, since Iβm quite tired. Have a lovely night!
just read, not much different from western game companies like blizzard or riot, or all the japanese/korean studios, admittedly asian countries have it worse about gender equality than western counterparts
not that I support this kind of thing, but it's undeniable that it's everywhere, in every industry
and maybe if it's just me, but the only thing I care about a product is the quality in and of itself, not about it's made by whom
actually I'm amazed the game is even allowed to be finished in china, the whole idea of the game is practically anti-dictatorship
Companies choose China cause is cheaper vs Eu i guess
game science is chinese studio or from which country?
@hexed stream may i ask how old are you just was wondering if u want to say if not np. I mean on general Companies move to China cause of cheaper hands either its gaming industry or whatever else
used to be cheap, but later to access to chinese market, as well as efficiency
chinese worker salary is about 3 times other 3rd world countries, but it's also around 3 times less likely to make faulty products, and logistics cost in china is heaven to all companies in the world to set up factories there
Are u from China?
no, from those 3rd world countries
but most have very deep economic tie with china, so we understand them quite well
China is famous for the ultra heavy industry have watched many documentaries about that country. Rivers are poisoned cause of Eu Pc parts are getting throwed there. Tomatos or whatever else also produced there and exported to Eu
Many thinks are copy-paste cheaper made in China and most used in Eu instead original parts from Germany or Japan etc
yup, they started from very low industrial base after WW2, and all these decades have to play catchup game with the west
pollution, I would say, China is going thru exactly what western countries went thru 200 years ago during 1st industrial revolution, pollution and stuff, just on a bigger scale
Quality wise either u going to be lucky or not. But still is cheaper vs original so np xD
yeah, buying stuff on alibaba is a massive gamble
Personally will never want to live there. Only the sky to watch is enough. With masks etc sad
and they have some very unethical e-commerce like online pet sale, I think that's very stupid, imagine a living pet packed in box to deliver to customers, it can die during delivery
No idea about more specific thinks just colture wise what they eat and how they live is another level.
Same goes for Saudi Arabia yes its money paradise but to live 99% of my life in Aircondition prefer to be poorπ
quality of life can only be improved with being wealthier, for now they are still 3 times behind developed countries in terms of income per capita, so we expect the qol to lag behind as well, but well, still ways better than where I am
at least their infrastructure is world class, which explains why their logistics cost is so cheap
but even if it improves, I still don't want to live there, you know: dictatorship, censorship, and other social issues
In Eu are also many countries poor but is bit different cause people own their homes and eat healty from the nature which is more important than material aka money but ya
It is what it is xD
well, talk about home ownership, I think even US got it worse than china
europe is still the peak of human qol for the next few decades as far as I can foresee
I am coming from a country where Democrasy and Market where born sadly non of those thinks exists nowdays.
Tbh i dont like talk about Politiks not is allowed here to talk about it. (Waste of time)
Point is to be healthy and happy with what u already have in life.π
@ember lake hey Aveπ
I'm actually hyped for titan quest 2 gamescom stream, arpg strong
I should play through Titan Quest again
but it's just so slow start
Yeah, I also didn't realise TQ counted as an ARPG so technically I have played an ARPG before LE π
The remaster has some speed slider that is quite nice - replayed it last summer on my steam deck its still pretty beautiful for its age
You haven't played d2 before LE?
Or sacred series
Nope, I was too young when they came out and I started my gaming on different genres so never crossed paths with them
Just know monument valley 3 will come out on 2024.12.10π±
My DNA of puzzle games is actived
so uhm, d4 will finally have party finder in the next season
90s 
Titan quest 2 and Poe 2 will give a try for sure. π
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280020/Lindwyrm/ I guess this is the indie ARPG what @thorn nacelle wants
oh Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor is the other one
Too much new games shows on Gamescom... Checking out the list
What about the Graphics? where is the shop to buy 90 dollars horse? bad game
@fierce moth
ty for sharing π
i believe 2025 will be very interesting year about arpg genre games.
Sharing many discovers on Gamescom which based on my flavour:
Rich at story telling by immersive environments, animations and BGM- The Occultist
The same type with last Epoch so want to try- Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor/ Lindwyrm/ Astera/ Titan quest 2
Games which I knew or just knew but I'm sure I can't offer- Avowed/ Little nightmares 3/ Frostpunk 2 /Sid Meier's Civilization 7/ Diablo 4: vessel of hatred/ S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl/
Stalker 2 yes. Vessel of Scamed nop. π
Only the fact that they failed so badly to deliver what they promised early now want also expansion.
Coolstorybro xD
Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor and Titan quest 2 is the game which no demo is available but on my wishlist
Let me check out the discord server of Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor and notice how their progress of development going
Downloading demos of remain games :)
hmm
i think TQ 2 it will be good. based on comments about TQ1.
also Greek Mythology what can go wrong xD
π The funny fact is the server looks like not to be built completely yet...No chat channel is available.
Optimized game is more important than ingame chat if its single player focused anyway
had potetional but gg.
Devs started nerfing everythink 2-3 days after release.
idk, the whole greek mythology looks wrong to me on so many levels
even the word mythology is greek xD comes from Mythos and Logos.Myth -> Mythos**Logos -> Speach
i find any Mythology interesting doesn't matter from which country it comes from.
Zeus was Chad. 
yeah, but the mythology is a bit too alabama for my taste haha
You cant take Mythology serius.. reason its called Mythology xD
If they can make tq2 the way the original devs wanted to make 1, I'll be really interested
Any1 here pre-order the D4 expansion? S5 is pretty good.
I've vowed to not get back into LE until 1.6. Got hundreds of hours pre and post release
1.6!?!
lol yeah - i love LE but burnt out
Nah PoE 2 in November (and I don't even own Diablo 4) heh
I've played a bit of d4 and I can't have any hype for the expansion
The new class doesn't fit with the diablo aesthetic
Sorry to ask but what is the new class? Didnt bother even clicking on their videosπ
Seems Poe 2 this year and 2025 Titan quest 2. Also something else going to pop in between i am sure xD
spirit born, it's like a druid but plays like a d3 monk lol
π Spoiler of next fan art: ||It's relevant to desert|| Close to be done, will post it later
it's an enthusiasm-consuming work indeed, less and less desire to open le
Anyone from Greece I can ask a simple question? π
Spirit born, a warrior-monk style class that has a mayan/Aztec aesthetic. The lore of a "spirit realm" existing too doesn't make sense that we've never heard of it before. The expansion is returning to kurast because we can't go anywhere else when mephisto is the villain
One of the things I liked about d4 was that it tried to focus on new places and characters but now we're gonna go do member berries for d2.
that's me
after s5 doesn't fu@ck up like a usual odd number season does
and hearing more about s6 features, total rework to progression system, party finder, no more bricked items when tempering, all those are nice boost of confidence
Yes send on private
New work is out! The second one @ember lake
@small sky Do you know which zone is it? π€¨
Feels very familiar, 100% within the desert. π€
Really pretty and nice π
π Which gem will you meet always in desert area?
Finally Devs released cant ignore Diablo history is something. Actually never too late to wake upπ
Monk-Warrior is more into Wow would say than Diablo dunno if it was in Diablo 3 also
monk was in d3
Ok then they copy paste it from Wow to D3. Dunno when D3 got released before or after expansion of Pandaria
Don't know, don't care
Yes but i didnt asked u π€£
And since you say you don't know if it was in d3
how do you know it was just a copypaste from wow to D3 π
Have to check on internet when d3 got released and when pandaria got released takes 10 seconds
Yes Monk is copy paste from Wow Pandaria expansion.
Cause i dont play trash games thats why @desert jasper
Yea that's why I don't play wow or d4
Is not whole wow trash. It used to be good Dev team back then
Aka Vanilla wow,Tbc,Woltk was decent specially Vanilla wow is one of the best mmo rpgs ever made. Simple and fun
Diablo 4 did played cause of my friends thats why otherwise will never buy that game. Was smelling scam from miles. Only that i see game at release 90 dollars 3 days per access is more than enough to understand.
Reason nowdays people thinking for Vanilla fresh again. There is hardcore server too. Had 400 days played casual
Cause Company back then was different to today. They bring content into their games.
Nowdays whales diablo immortal many people spend their money to buy skill etc Gdkps mastercards its normal Company to be like this. I cant blame only the Company but people fault too. What u give u earn
These are all amazing, sharing this with the team now! But please don't burnout, if it starts feeling like a chore then take a break and make something for fun!
Just so you know, my hyped game civ 7, will have 5 days to play in advance if you buy deluxe version and above
π₯²
The game has literally never looked appealing to me.
I gave it a chance once because a friend of mine reaally wanted to
Played to lvl 20 in some patch back in the day (Not vanilla)
It was among the most miserable experiences I've ever had in gaming.
πNeed to recover myself by playing a bit D4 after done this one indeed.
Good idea π
Yes depents which on you played. Anythink above Tbc-Woltk was not that fun.
Depents each person has his/her own idea.
What build? See if I have something for you
That's a tough question to elaborate due to no shared users API on it... Will check it out after I go home π
My ISP attempted to screw with me today (their PON terminal switched from bridge mode to router mode out of the blue)... sigh. Guess they succeeded in some way (I had to reset my router to factory defaults and redo the config from scratch, hopefully it was worth it in the end...).
What are these?
Old slots for mouse and keyboard
as the icons suggest
PS/2 ports, to be exact.
For mouse and keyboard respectively, yes. Those are dated but still functional.
Tks
There's a question for my gears is I don't know which type of gears is what I'm equipped
Which are these...Overwhelming
π€ ...What the funny thing is i guess these types are prepared for exclusive skills from this item but no one on the website can match with the one from my helm
What these dots meansβ
which planner site are you using? I recommend maxroll d4 planner
mobalytics
the blue, yellow, orange are color code for masterworking
masterworking?
typo
masterworking has crit on every 4th, 8th, 12th, so 3 crits per item, if an affix got 1 crit, it's blue, 2 yellow, 3 orange
every game takes time to learn, like LE, pretty sure it also took long for you to learn crafting system too
π«‘ Maybe I can communicate with you on my builds when my class is lv.70? Lv. 52 only and I'm focus on random exploring on the map and complete main quests to be honest
I even don't unlock world tier 3
lvl52 should have unlocked wt4 already π€― sure if anything just ask me, but for now are you following a leveling guide or something?
π I'm immerse in reading the story...Oh NOOOOO...Sad, rip, little girl π
ah yeah, I forgot you still go thru campaign
Mods ftw
π€ Oh I get what's masterworking finally...It's locked unfortunately
its where rng party begins xD
π€ Mine is 33h now. Not sure what's extras
extras i guess are the quests all over the map.
the optional ones which have nothing to do with the Main story.
hahaha no one answer it right yet π maybe I had increased the difficulty too much
Just killed Lilith. I guess I'm close to the end of main story...?
π’ I want to read the whole story again because...Many details I maybe missed by language's barrier
But this is a epic story without doubt.
Not a easy thing at all to build a story to connect so many biomes. Very amazing when I look back the map and recall where I walked...
Oh forget something...Many familiar shadows exists in both of D4 and LE. LE did a good job on inherit many D4's shadows to turn into the own things, like the skill of poisoned nemesis (parallel arrows), double periods from the same boss, evade button, the health bar of bosses etc.
What I don't like the control of combat in D4 is there's a skill triggered by left-click...This is the same key for movement too so I always moving instead of activating that skill when I want to active it π
You can change that in settings
I went to TQ discord and people there absolutely hate it when you can't bind anything to left click, pure movement
at least in d4 it allows you to change left click to pure movement/npc interaction
hmm, so this whole criticism about steam count of black myth wukong has been busted, it turns out very little of the millions of steam players playing the game are from china
so it was found out that the majority of chinese players, inside china, they don't buy the game from steam, but from another local game store called wegame, owned by tencent
man, 90% of steam concurrent playercounts from china 
steam china has like what, less than 54 games
Bought it last night going to play at weekend. Has similarities from Ghost of tsusima in combat aka change stances i saw so far. Super graphic game
Who cares now if those 2-3 millions are chinese or japenese.. π€£
Point is that its the first game of that company and they trully nailed it.
Wish all games was released like that. Running rx5700xt nitro gpu/cpu 3600x and on 2k graphics + all settings high 70 fps.
0 crashes. Same experience had with Ghost of Tsusima and Sekiro.
Titan quest 1 is the same with 2023 arpg game aka D4 right.π€
Wait till titan quest 2 gets released first.
There is more endgame content aka Duriel uber bosses and pits
Imagine how easy is Lilith to kill her like this π s1-s2 had to grind hours nightmare dungeons and also clear t100 first in order to hava a change to kill Lilith.
Not to mentioned required almost days to hit lvl100 while now in 3-4 hours max u are lvl100. That is when i say arcade mode arpg.
Source?
I'm interested to know more
Which game have you purchased?
Black Myth Wukong
- steam doesn't count console players, which is massive in china
- most chinese gamers don't even have steam account, and I mean steam china, meanwhile wegame in china is the largest game store, owned by tencent, and can be logged in using wechat, no account creation needed
- wegame sells black myth wukong at only $40
- I just surf the website store.steamchina.com, guess what, I don't even see black myth wukong there
Lol steamChina is a special version of steam which under the more strict and odd rule. Devs can gain more money and don't need the permission of Chinese government on original version so it's not popular.
yeah, part is political and part is economical
steam china has to share 12% game revenue back to valve, that's the deal in china
while wegame is a completely chinese owned company, all the money stays within the country
why make life difficult and ask all kinds of permission to release a game on steam china while you can just talk to wegame, seal a deal, and publish the game immediately
the sole reasons steam china still exists still now are: dota2, cs2 (was csgo), pubg
The monkey wukung game
It just went on the list of games that i'll eventually buy when I can afford
I was asking for a source on your info
Since it sounds like more concrete info on the player breakdowns is available
I don't understand what you mean? which part of "black myth wukong is not for sale on steam china" do you not understand?
if it's not for sale on steam china, of course steam count for the players in china will be a good old zero
or do you suggest steamdb can somehow count the players using wegame as well?
and if you want proof, I gave you steam china website above, can check for yourself
