#πŸ“šβ”ƒoff-topic

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thorn nacelle
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Hey ,Pits i think got 2 times nerfed since their release.
Did tried pits before the nerfs and as Thorns Barb had to spam 5mins Jump(basic atk) and if Liliths shadow appeared at 5-10% could 1 shot me.
Meanwhile Thorns did 0 dmg to the boss. i am tired of this. gl and have fun πŸ™‚

hexed stream
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ah ok, not a fan of barb so I don't really care what happen to that class

fierce moth
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🫑 I'll give my fan arts before 08.20 because I'd like to use them to join in a game recommend salon and promote le

(Figureing out the basic angle now)

fierce moth
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🀭 People go to play Diablo 4 and stream now

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Well 100% new for D4 still so i can't get what are they stream actually lol

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I even don't know how to upgrade my gems

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hah...Too much people better than you when you're aggressive always and want to catch up another people but...
Don't try to challenge the profession of them with your hobbies 🫠

hexed stream
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d4 logging in

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deeforbad based

thorn nacelle
hexed stream
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but nerf what exactly? all I see are nerfs to barb and buffs to other classes

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s4 was great and after a few hours of s5, I can safely say s5 is even in a better state than s4, and if you don't like the game as a whole, that's fine, each person has different taste anyway

steady birch
hexed stream
steady birch
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it actually cleared it lmao

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i thought great now i have to do it again but no it completed it (one of the 3 quests to unlock the echo boss thingies)

thorn nacelle
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Yes ofc each person has his own taste about thinks. Glad that u enjoy s5 atleast πŸ™‚

hexed stream
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yes, I'm glad I can enjoy multitude of things, from d4 to poe, LE, GD, TQ1

hexed stream
ember lake
thorn nacelle
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Titan quest 2 going to play for sure. Will play LE and that new game i bought couple days ago Ghost of tsusima till Titan quest 2 gets released.

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About Diablo 4 prolly will give it a try again in 2030. Assume they will manage till then to fix their game.

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About pits is copy-paste content from D3 still they cant bring content either its 1 shot mode or naked can clear everythink.

hexed stream
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Last time naked could clear everything was d2, so I'm confused what are you talking about

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Is there a d4 version in a parallel universe that I haven't tried?

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Coz the d4 I know is so gear dependent it hurts

thorn nacelle
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Nah diablo 4 isnt gear dependent is just bad and boring. Dunno why to play arcade mode arpg cause is named Diablo 4 but has nothing to do with Diablo 2. Story wise music wise cutsceens wise doesnt come even close. At least they tried πŸ˜‚

hexed stream
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3 times more playerbase? again, in some parallel universe I don't know about

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older generations and their nostalgic obsession with d2, laughable

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d2 if it were to release this day and age, wouldn't even sell past 500k copies

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nothing about d2 cutscenes or music is any special, they were memorable because the game was its only kind at that time, simple as that

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and pls tell the community next time when you smoke weed, because it really shows when you say d4 isn't gear dependent

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the freaking game won't even let you level up to 10, not mentioning leaving wt2 or touching endgame, without gears

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and why does it has anything to do with d2 besides the lore? it's a modern game released for modern people, older ones, who care

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from hindsight view, a new person playing d2 nowadays will find it merely a 5/10 game, a position no different from d4

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and with the mindless zooming using teleport/enigma, d2 is the epitome of arcade you talk about, an even worse level of zooming than poe

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a mid quality game somehow praised to god level by nostalgic bunch of fanatics

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meanwhile any arpg released after 2010 (minus d3) is easily far better than d2

thorn nacelle
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@hexed stream this post shows that u have no idea. Sad

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thorn nacelle
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Dunno really what this guy talking. He played 1-3 seasons online d2 with full of bots and p2w and he/she believes that was diablo experience. Go play offline naked with 0 trades and if be able to clear ubers and hell mode so easy let me know. In any way if u compare d2 with d4 huge difference in everythink. Ofc diablo 2 doesnt have shop dayli changing with new outfits to buy for 25-50 euros thats why. I am going to lose my hairs here kekW

hexed stream
thorn nacelle
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And dont say Poe anothet d2 clone. Please

hexed stream
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it's memorable for the reason I mentioned, but it's not well done

hexed stream
maiden widget
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Why would it not be well done, you didn't really say anything but that you don't like it

hexed stream
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why would it be well done?

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well done for the 2000s era maybe, but this year is 2024

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anything well done in the 2000s is only mid level in 2020s

hexed stream
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statistics doesn't lie, which all companies rely on, not just gaming companies

ember lake
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I'm going to remind chat that we are allowed to disagree, but we will disagree respectfully.

maiden widget
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Idk the songs just match the environments a lot, it's not some weird epic orchestra song after another like they did in D4 where none of the tracks really clung to me

indigo shadow
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Faust ❀️

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Anyone shuffling D4 and LE atm? or maybe D2?

hexed stream
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I've seen better, and I can't look back

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music matching enviroment is 1 of the easiest things to do in game design, nothing to praise about

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maybe it was something worth praising back in the 2000s, but not today, it's just the baseline

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indigo shadow
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Ahhh gotcha.

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duck recommended me for a new melee build for this season but I'm having a lot of fun playing this build.

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but I have a feeling that either Range Rogue is imbalance or dev hates Range Rogue πŸ˜‚

maiden widget
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heartseeker was super fun last season - gotta try my first sorc this time around

indigo shadow
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I'm on falcon rogue.

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my bird constantly bring half a health of every mods.

maiden widget
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oh you mean in LE - i did falconer ballista (not the explode) last league and it was pretty fun but mana drained hard

indigo shadow
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Yeah

hexed stream
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this season I'm having fun with the new chain lightning pants, and I swear, it's the best leveling I have in any arpg so far

thorn nacelle
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Already said too much.

fierce moth
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work in progress, I'd like to say the environment light is the most tricky thing to reveal πŸ‘€

fierce moth
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This update (add legendary potential) suppose to the greatest one in history. Most of fun from gamble is from this change I'll say.

fierce moth
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gregory I guess I reached the limit of spoiler...Go further will not give EHG a surprise then so it's the last one

ember lake
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Those are awesome! I can't wait to see the finished results 😁

hasty grail
indigo shadow
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Same.

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but I'm prioritize on LE more.

hexed stream
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I ran out of stuffs to do in LE C2 after 1 week, and poe league is taxing me with health and fomo, so d4 so far

junior oyster
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Best movie ever: Borderlands

jade jackal
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and leveling is just trivial.

hexed stream
jade jackal
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They confidently put more luck and grind dependent mechanics in the game, much like LE

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there's an actual loot hunt

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All in all, nearly finishing my sorc leveling, massive improvements all around

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tons and tons of endgame activities compared to the bare, naked launch state

narrow token
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I feel like it needs more build archetypes though. Can't be much of a battle mage in D4 unfortunately. And still no monk which makes me very sad.

hexed stream
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next season there will be monk, or similar to it haha

junior oyster
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Probably the best find I've ever had

jade jackal
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Fair? bottom line? that's more than most ARPGs can wish for

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They are very formulaic, but they exist

hexed stream
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diablo is never a game about complexity like poe or LE, it's a game about simplicity, always has been

jade jackal
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I wouldn't put LE's complexity far above current D4, in all honesty

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There are more skill specific choices, but there are also obvious skill specific choices

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But yeah, its a very simple game, always has been

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The payoff is that instead of playing a board game, or a stat simulator, you get to enjoy combat

indigo shadow
sand wigeon
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To me, Diablo has always been more about its art, setting and story than anything.

indigo shadow
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In term of that yeah, but for gameplay, it just plug and play for us

hexed stream
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Casual and accessible, diablo has always been, may not be deep and complex, but the title doesn't need to appeal to that niche market

indigo shadow
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Not Roguelike, the original Roguelike game, Rogue.

hexed stream
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Sadly couldn't enjoy d1 even though I was given a free copy

sand wigeon
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D1 being inspired by Rogue does not surprise me

indigo shadow
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I could've enjoyed it, if I experienced it on first hand.

hexed stream
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Yeah, I've seen and been thru too much before playing d1, it dumped down the experience too much

indigo shadow
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Reva, the only thing difference was original S&Synapse/Blizzard forced them to change to RT thanks to Warcraft 1.

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I believe other than Doom and ID stuff, Diablo was the first box office hit on PC. Even with Diablo 2 came out? Diablo 1 is still in the top 10 charts

sand wigeon
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Baldur's Gate 1 wasn't far behind and did pretty well

indigo shadow
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is that a spam?

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Yeah, BG is great as F

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I never played BG because I'm not a fan of tabletop RPG, but I got into D&D when I was 27.

desert jasper
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<@&1161418687471956101>

sand wigeon
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(I'm generally too young for BG1 or BG2, though I do own a physical copy of BG1.)

fierce moth
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heavybreathing Sorry I still can't reveal the environment light completely but I guess this one looks great too?

FIRST FAN ART for last epoch. Enjoy! @ember lake

(Posted it on INS, pinged the official, what I want is a like. This is the link. https://www.instagram.com/p/C-iTAmNy-xS/ )

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This zone not be done yet I suppose because architectures on this zone is what I don't build in this work although I'd tried πŸ˜…
So ... I'll do the other one on the same zone :)

(The luminious window and the pattern on the ground should tell the answer about which zone I'm trying to reveal)

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πŸ‘€ Let me post the first post about le's fan art on ins lol

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⬆️ I'm done finally :) @small sky

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🀭 I believe this one is much better than any fan art for ftk 2 because my skills and aesthetics are improved per work I did

small sky
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πŸ₯³

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Neat voxel rendition, going to have a voxel aprg next! 🀭

fierce moth
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Last epoch is too perfect. I don't have any ideas on how to build my first game yet 🀭

indigo shadow
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I just realized my PC is not on recommendation for the game. πŸ˜‚

fierce moth
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Yeah I hope Judd will check it out soon

fierce moth
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Dungeons are overwhelming if i want to clear all of them under I don't own my horse yet

desert jasper
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You should get the horse first tbh

fierce moth
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No idea how to find the location of that quest...lol

desert jasper
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You should get the quest for it in Kyovashad stablemaster

fierce moth
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πŸ€” I'm here

desert jasper
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Or at least that's where you get it during the campaign

fierce moth
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That quest is locked, i don't know why

desert jasper
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what lvl are you?

fierce moth
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lv.45

desert jasper
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

fierce moth
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πŸ‘€ oh get it i need to start act 3 quest at first

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🫑 Will do it tonight

hexed stream
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or are you trying to 100% complete side quest?

shy sage
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πŸ€” I want to complete all ranks on map reputation (you can gain experience and status bonus by exploring more locations on map)

indigo shadow
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You need to reach like what? 50? I don't remember. πŸ˜‚ it's been a year

hexed stream
ember lake
shy sage
shy sage
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Oh just checked my reddit, yeah a few people noticed it ☺️

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They're very smart that figured out the correct answer quickly πŸ˜‰

ember lake
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The cages were a bit of a give away, they don't appear in too many places 😁

indigo shadow
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I forgot to sell my goodies

fierce moth
fierce moth
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πŸ™ƒ Alright no one from EHG reply on current case...

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Maybe it's a new case they never meet before? πŸ€”

soft fulcrum
fierce moth
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oh support ticket. good reminder

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πŸ€” hah fan art channel is existed before but never come back. Such a pity...

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I want to know another artists who created fan arts for le to be honest

shy sage
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🀭 Save his material packages on artstation at first... To be prepared when I has enough money to pay them.

❗ I don't know him. I just see his post on ins by the algorithm.

uneven chasm
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hey guys, I know most people here likes math and theory crafting, so if anyone is interested to play a text based war game called Open Dominion (which is a remaked game of Dominion that started in the late 90's) hit me up since we need new player. anyway sorry for this shameful plug

fierce moth
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I'm watching the trailer of a game and see the familiar passive tree which had appeared on the past of le too πŸ˜†
What a surprise is...I never play this system so it's a good chance to experience

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(Feel the invisible loop in game design haha, wonderful feeling)

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By the way, I guess ARPG lovers and turn-based RPG lovers maybe share the same circle in general? Both of them needs your strategy from your thinking so something must common on system design

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The essence is how to trigger players be addicted in numbers πŸ‘€

hexed stream
shy sage
hexed stream
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what to share though, turn based arpg has worse itemization, worse skill and passive complexity/depth, worse combat feel, suitable for guys with 100 grandchildren and want to enjoy slow life

thorn nacelle
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There was a necro content maker says Necro this season is the worst class. Then he posts 306mil crit with half naked gear. Intersting game 🀣(D4)*

hexed stream
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306 mil sounds like a joke this season

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he's right actually

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andariel rogue is ticking poison for 10+ bil damage on the other hand, and LS sorc while not having big numbers, also crit in the hundreds of millions and there are like 20-30 of such crit instances at any given moment

sand wigeon
hexed stream
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something like that, and dragon age too

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I think those games are mainly for the story, not for the gameplay and build making

sand wigeon
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I don't think they're very slow paced at all, having extensively played Xcom and Wasteland, with limited experience in Dragon Age and Baldur's Gate, though I didn't really like those two. I think you have a very incomplete view of those genres, tbh, because they have very deep gameplay that can be played fast or slow.

hexed stream
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actually there can't be turn based arpg, only turn based rpg

sand wigeon
hexed stream
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I'm not talking about time to complete campaign though

sand wigeon
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I mean, depends on your build, but generally you're correct. IDK why that's a bad thing, though.

hexed stream
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I don't say it's a bad thing, I said from beginning it's a preference thing

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I don't like slow paced games

sand wigeon
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Also, a lot of CRPG's don't have... Itemization? Like, that's just not a term that's used there.

sand wigeon
hexed stream
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but I don't insult anyone

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I merely stated the reasons why I dislike turn based rpg

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which is completely my own thing, speaking for no one else

sand wigeon
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"suitable for guys with 100 grandchildren and want to enjoy slow life"
While this statement may not be inherently distasteful, it definitely is within the context and the way its intonation comes across. Anyway, in terms of CRPG, I seriously recommend XCOM or Wasteland, they're a lotta fun. GTG! Have a nice day

hexed stream
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you view that as an insult? when it's no better than a joke

sand wigeon
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Jokes can still be insulting though

hexed stream
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people telling d4 players are dad with 2 wives 7 kids 3 jobs all the time

sand wigeon
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Yes, that's... Toxicity.

hexed stream
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with their jokes

sand wigeon
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I mean, a lot of them get flak for that too. And you're also not a comedian on-stage, you're a person on discord. And comedians also understand the structure of jokes and how to be tasteful with their jokes, the funny ones don't just say insulting stuff, there's a punchline and follow through and buildup. Y'know?

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Lmao okay you're that

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This age of compassion shall never come to pass, clearly

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Mm-hmm

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Anyway, have you tried XCOM?

hexed stream
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no, not interested in the sub-genre nor the franchise

sand wigeon
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I think XCOM is worth playing even if you aren't interested. It was pretty foundational to the genre, but it's also quite fast paced and easy to understand. XCOM 2 goes on sale a lot, so I'd pick it up next time it's cheap and at least give it a shot.

hexed stream
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I mainly play arpg, shooting, some rpg including souls-like, some turn based strategy, and that's it

hexed stream
sand wigeon
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Turn-based strategy? Wow, you're old, that's for like. eighty year olds who were around during the invention of the pc lol

sand wigeon
hexed stream
sand wigeon
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oh my god your social security number must be 2. civ is like, ancient

hexed stream
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dunno, started playing it since civ 5 I think, and already wishlist civ 7

sand wigeon
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didn't civ 5 release in like the 1900's

hexed stream
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no idea, probably when dinosaurs were still walking in front of my house

sand wigeon
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clearly

hexed stream
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anyone here got poe2 beta invitation already? I heard many big arpg streamers actually fail to join

stiff yarrow
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do ppl have an idea of this current poe league? worth playing?

sand wigeon
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Yes! I actually really enjoy it. A lot of the stat changes have been fun, and the mechanic functions great. It pops up "clear this" things in campaign/Maps that don't take too long, and you can choose to engage with it or not. I think doing some slight settlement management between maps is really enjoyable, it's a nice break.

ember lake
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Reminder to follow both #rules 1 and 2 please, thank you.

hexed stream
stiff yarrow
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LMAO

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so the league mechanic this time is like a colony sim or town management type thing

sand wigeon
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Yeah, pretty much. You don’t have to engage with it if you don’t want to. Also, if you don’t want to grind gold, just… Don’t? No point losing sleep over a game.

thorn nacelle
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Only if u going to be top 10 in Eu as speedrunner then yes

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arpg games are too casual for that. Rpg games are way more hardcore. example level from 60 to 70 straight then speedclear the content of raid first on the server or world.
was like 60-70 hours with out sleep.

junior oyster
hexed stream
hexed stream
fierce moth
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πŸ˜† That's super fun to compare the same landscape under different HDR and details, took a few groups like this one

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A hope that le give me a photo mode is spawned suddenly...

thorn nacelle
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casual yes ofc for the beginners. for those who wanna pump the metters and carry whole raids is not.

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only the Pvp about vanilla requires 3 months 18-22 hours per day dayli non stop. very casual

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Funny fact that Wow Vanilla expansion is an old rpg-mmorpg for the new generation gamers*(that enjoy graphics and butterflys)* has so easy boss mechanics still in 2024 cant clear even the first raid.(molten core)

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Did played also Hardcore had this feeling that people who choose Hardcore have atleast minimum idea about the game. was so wrong kekW

lone compass
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well, i wouldnt say inferior by any means, just that its way harder to achieve. one thing missing from the equation is regen/leech and most classes dont have good ways to add this natively through passives or skills so id just say its really hard to get a competetive build going @clear panther

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if we are talking ward pre 1.1. then definitely inferior

clear panther
lone compass
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i think the main issue is ward builds have really accessible go to items that just instantly enables your build

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with health you need many moving pieces and stars to align on many items to work

clear panther
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that and ward has very strong passives form classes, where as health has very few options

lone compass
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yeah, agreed

clear panther
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personally, i think a big issue is that leech turns off when you hit full hp, no matter how much you had stored up, this basically caps you internally. Where as proactive ward gain effectively has no cap as it will just keep piling on, so the ward leech effects actually raise your max hp total to protect you from heavier hits, where as life leech just gets stifled

lone compass
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yeah, topping leech should have a grace period that accounts for x amount of leech overflow

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i personally found this issue too with my lich, but there is a way to add 3sec of leech through warlock tree

clear panther
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true, but that's one class, imo overleech should just exist by default, even if it's at a reduced value

lone compass
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yeah, that would be a good solution

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could also see items like leeching at full health grants endurance threshold, armor or whatever

clear panther
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that and i think passive HP regen nodes need a serious rework, because %HP regen is almost non competitive when considering the low access to flat HP regen

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if you don't build flat, %1000 regen increase is like 1k hp per second right? Shoot, give me 1000% ward retention and 10 ward per second and that's genuinely near equal while also giving me max total life

lone compass
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yeah, flat hp regen has the same issue as mana regen

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you do nothing with 200% mana regen when the base is low, its just non existent

clear panther
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yeah, though with mana I am more lenient as mana gain directly means more dps in all cases.

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as this game's damage output in general is based on that, though I do believe mana spending classes need better access

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as mana regen only helps builds with very low mana like warpath.

lone compass
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yeah

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i made a suggestion in the suggestion forums section in discord

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feel free to add up to it if you have time @clear panther

indigo shadow
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He's like: I'm going to smoke here and chill out. πŸ˜‚ @soft fulcrum

hexed stream
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chat is so on-topic

indigo shadow
vagrant topaz
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Why do you have your song in the middle of your screen ???

lone compass
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asking the question we all want answer for

thorn nacelle
indigo shadow
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You won't have any problem unless you press Shift keys and it will be clickable and drag it accidentally

thorn nacelle
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Just bought a keyboard which has play-stop next-previus song buttons easy going. Spotify on the background alwaysπŸ˜‰

ocean rivet
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Sonic the hedgehog song gregory

thorn nacelle
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Forget the name of the company atm.. very solid

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Today outside from my work. Robot invansionπŸ˜‚

ocean rivet
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Vroom vroom fresh mown grass gregory

thorn nacelle
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Its made in Italy? Costs 100.000€ only

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🀌

ocean rivet
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Oh damn, I think I'll stick with the regular mowers omegalul

shy sage
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A5 isn't available so...
I guess these notebooks are enough to do some analysis/stretching for last epoch and maybe I can expand the radius of my redar on Diablo-like ARPG πŸ˜‰

indigo shadow
indigo shadow
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Hands down, this is the funniest Olympics ever

thorn nacelle
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@ocean rivet i will cook thisπŸ˜…

ocean rivet
thorn nacelle
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yes one of top 2 high quality Beef on this planet xD

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There is 1 more which requires 30.000 Euro License to import it to Eu. its made in Japan and only.

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This kind of Beef u find only in Michelin restaurants 1/2/3 stars etc

thorn nacelle
ocean rivet
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My new shoes @ember lake gregory

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I hope that ping was okay

ember lake
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The most stunning shoes EVER!!

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Yes the ping was okay!!

ocean rivet
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I did order these to wear with a specific dress gregory

ember lake
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I bet the dress is just as amazing!!

ocean rivet
thorn nacelle
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ok and where is you?

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groleshades have to check if it fits correct! xD

ocean rivet
thorn nacelle
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but those Shoes arent too warm for Summer? xD

ocean rivet
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They're low boots gregory

thorn nacelle
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i see groleshades

ember lake
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Those will go great together! Party?

ocean rivet
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Basically all the elements of my outfit are present in those shoes groleshades the ribbons, lace, choker...

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First need to chill down after cycling, then I'll start walking gregory

thorn nacelle
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Amazon style! GigaChad

south gust
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Is it just me or does this look scream "It needs a Parasol"

ocean rivet
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Hi Wick, remember to stay hydrated gregory

south gust
ocean rivet
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That's good gregory keep it up

fierce moth
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wow I find where this scene is finally...The only zone I never see in game what has appeared in trailer

thorn nacelle
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Wish game had everywhere so long view!groleshades Zoommmm out! πŸ˜„

fierce moth
thorn nacelle
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dunno i enjoy to play rpg-arpg-mmorpg on general Rpg gerne mode games with long view.
makes my life easyer by rush clear dungeons or stack mobs then aoe.

hexed stream
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I dislike games where I need a group, solo is the way

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fps is exception

thorn nacelle
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Both types have cons and pros. In big groups aka Raids has to do about team work and its harder to achieve that Chemistry requires effort.
Solo its less painfull cause have to deal only with your self which in long term becomes also boring.

fierce moth
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lol

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the thing become more interesting now @small sky About how to max the value of my fan art

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The possibility of EHG meet this thing for the first time is more πŸ˜†

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Of course...More works I'm done and showed, more possible they'll contract me. I guess they can't believe me temporaily because they're not sure what I will give them

ocean rivet
thorn nacelle
ember lake
fierce moth
fierce moth
thin wing
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heello

shy sage
ember lake
shy sage
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To be honest I don't get it lol...

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Maybe because I never see any in-discord program can highlight any posts...Post?...

ember lake
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It's not in Discord, different program πŸ™‚

shy sage
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Ohhhh make sense now. So EHG don't use discord as the work chat program

ember lake
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Yeah

thorn nacelle
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Wow now saw that

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Very nice! πŸ˜„

thorn nacelle
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Copium..

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Costs 1-18 but 22 said goodbye kekW

ebon meadow
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14 potential,just gamble it to 0 and make an actual item lol

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That cold multi and the void res are actually HOLY mods

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Unless Ur not merchant xdd

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Dafuq base is that anyway the icon doesn't make a thing on those mods ,to me it feels low

thorn nacelle
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i am gaming Cof this cicle and this rng with t7 items its rekting me so good πŸ˜„

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when its normal item t5 everythink works t6 depents t7 its like never

thorn nacelle
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i didnt touch Void ress or Cold ress multi

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the plan was to turn it into Experimental but was a coolstory πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
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Low base really good rolls even if it's not a bis u can still screw the game with that to a surtain extend that other builds can't

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Like actually a good rolls just due the crit avoidance

thorn nacelle
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nah i dont know they say they didnt nerf crafting but i believe they did

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rememper cicle 1 as MG was crafting items a lot dayli

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never had issues like this

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dunno 350 hours maybe all those hours was lucky πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
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I had to much touching grass this last few month and Poe is my main game so I can't really judge but that fkn thing is god like to craft for me xdd

thorn nacelle
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i just try to grab any t7 affix now as Cof in order to balance this build so can push to 1k

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but this wont happend not going to grind so heavy no reason

ebon meadow
#

Surely u can lol just need some dedication and not getting down by low crafts ,blast prophecys and get some crazy gear and get on that freaking leaderboard

thorn nacelle
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every t7 item tried to fix failed.

ebon meadow
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Outside gaming if u play like a 6 HR a day shift u can dude its just matter of fact not getting really unlucky

thorn nacelle
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for example. if u start rerolling the affixes in 1 x item dont excpect to finish every affix on the item.

ebon meadow
thorn nacelle
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also Green pill πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
#

Is there a split method for items in le ?

thorn nacelle
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split method? there is a token which u can duplicate your item but must have crafting potential aka never πŸ˜„

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you mean duplicate it before u start crafting it

ebon meadow
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I see ,well we need those and a mirror method to

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Yes

thorn nacelle
#

thats a not bad call tbh but have to try it. assume u lose Potential by doing this move too

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its made so to grind more.

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but i dont wanna grind more i wanna push more πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
#

If it's random potential if u do that MAYBE it's worth it so u don't scrape a bis item

thorn nacelle
#

i rememper was using those tokens cicle 1 only if was godly craft and Slam went bad to give it one more try

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aka 3lp uniques etc

ebon meadow
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Rinse and repeat is also good ,just because it prevents items to be duped and sold on market outside cof

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The funny thing to me it's not even a main item like chest or head maybe

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Those are gloves and holy that some stats ,it's not a ring to be game bis but still it's a build enabling item

thorn nacelle
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isnt only the gear must have proper build-class whatever

ebon meadow
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Yea but as a player that just games for it self and not a streamer I would be proud of it

thorn nacelle
#

try hards exist on every game which of those play offline try to find exploits cause have skill issue syndrome

ebon meadow
#

Like if u not making a business out of those ,just game and show of

thorn nacelle
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nah just gaming no business. if i wanna do business will be not in gaming industry xD

ebon meadow
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Be like Dan in Poe be a god of making builds that not popular and just be god xdd

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One item can brake a game without breaking the rules that's a peak

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No leaderboard no cloud just be a god lol

thorn nacelle
#

yes but Dan dont have real life job i guess

ebon meadow
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I geniunly can't speak for that but u probably right ,and we are talking about hardcore player builds at this point

thorn nacelle
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i mean content makers gaming 24/7 how to have a real life job

ebon meadow
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There's more than having free time

thorn nacelle
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or suggar daddies

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everythink its paid from Dad car from Dad then ya i am content maker too omegalul

ebon meadow
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That's the issue with him we don't know ,this mf can have 8hr job and he is still wtf gamer

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Like actually casual player that is probably best player player in Poe

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Casual with a big "ISH"

thorn nacelle
#

there are 2 versions.
Version 1: is the complete no lifer nerd which plays the game since release non stop
Version 2: is the Chad where plays the game less but more effective.

ebon meadow
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And as softcore player that never followed him I still have to fkn bow and it hurts me omegalul

ebon meadow
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Maybe not on pro level like csgo but still he is a prodigy

thorn nacelle
#

to get on this level must play a lot. practise is the key

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nobody born gamer

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Saw that on many games either i was casual-speedrunner-first kill bloods whatever

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fps games nowdays are dead

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Same companies that release their games produce also Cheats for their costumers

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miss old school Call of Duty 2 counter strike 1.5 lan that was fun. now play fps games and either they are camp mode + cheats or just 3k hours played with Cheats on top.

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Escape from Tarkov. the game was amazing sounds like in real life. people spend 100-150 euro to get cheats.

ebon meadow
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Don't want to talk about tarkov but modern warfare 2 I have 479 days played groleshades

thorn nacelle
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i dont think that there is 1 single FPS game on this planet with out cheats nowdays.

ebon meadow
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I come from console after very log time and I played wow before since burning as main warlock

thorn nacelle
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also you see people gaming fps games with controller kekW

ebon meadow
thorn nacelle
#

people feel bad when they lose. But thats the point to play a game. you going to lose and also win.

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same goes on rpg gerne games too

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they dont know 1 x game and they burn their money. money doesnt buy skill

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or Intelligence πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
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It depends how u take the content for example valheim ,I still have my dev sword to test new content because if I have to play it legit the grind takes weeks for same thing that I did multiple times and haven't been changed ,it does change when I play in group for me

ebon meadow
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Actually a great game but spoiled to us with a community that have different gameplay in every single aspect

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Like I follow world best raid players like judoh that actually play like watching a sincronize swimming

thorn nacelle
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ofc dont have super crazy graphics omg πŸ˜„

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those plebs nowdays are dying for graphics

ebon meadow
#

It's that or Minecraft

thorn nacelle
#

Valheim is to chill and build your farm do your think and even the funs made crazy stuff in 1 year.
Then you see triple AAA big trash companies cant bring content with 6000 employers

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the troll is real πŸ˜„

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there is a word saying: Fish always smells from the Head xD

ebon meadow
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Valheim is probably the only game that can sufle game graphics inside Ur mouth ,si much can be done with so little that people can't understand why it's so beautiful

ebon meadow
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The game have so much potential ...

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Arc is different we knew what we getting in to

thorn nacelle
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nah Bloodborne-Sekiro-Elder ring-Assasin creed Odyssey cause i am Greek thats it πŸ˜„

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Also about Lost ark nah graphics are meh

ebon meadow
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Nice I always wanted to meet a greek gamer geez

thorn nacelle
#

Ghost of tsusima was ok but also has Ubisoft flow elements in to it

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you know to do list

ebon meadow
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The more courtys the merrier lol can't always be Turks that hard game

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I m russian btw but I live in Spain

ebon meadow
desert jasper
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Ghost of sushi
mm

ebon meadow
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Alright we have some heavy gamers here holy

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I m enjoying

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Ur fkr used to game very heavy on no log out games before I have to much respect

thorn nacelle
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first 5 hours was like i was watching a movie

desert jasper
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Never played tsusima
just call it "ghost of sushi"
because it makes me hungry that way

ebon meadow
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It is like watching an anime that is lit

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Hold on I m looking for the base

thorn nacelle
#

price could be bit less but whatever 10-20 euro today its like nothing

desert jasper
#

Dude
you couldn't even pay me to buy ubisoft products

thorn nacelle
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i have a lot of Ubisoft games but like 80% left them in the middle

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or couple of them didnt touch them at all

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only assasin creed odysey played a lot

desert jasper
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Last one I got was physical copy of prince of persian trilogy back when windows vista was a thing
and I couldn't even play the 3rd game because the DRM system didn't agree with vista, only win7

thorn nacelle
#

i bought Red dead 1 on ps4. Graphics not even close with Red dead 2 but seems its better game than Red dead 2

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story wise atleast

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not that red dead 2 was bad game. had tons of fun but their launcher is so bad

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still nowdays isnt fixed

ebon meadow
desert jasper
#

Anyway
I've been awake since 1am
and it's getting close to 11pm
I should probably get to sleep

ebon meadow
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I m to drunk and I want a pizza lol it's been 13 hours for me

thorn nacelle
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wait u are from Turkey and u are Drunk?

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will call the police! xD

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Tell them to bring you Pizza too xD

desert jasper
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Not turkey.

thorn nacelle
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@ebon meadow He is i think

desert jasper
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Nah he's not

ebon meadow
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Nahh I m russian and I live in Spain kekw , but very tourist town and I m closing a pub and grabbing a pizza

thorn nacelle
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haha Russian Davai

ebon meadow
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Like I lived here for 22 years xdd

thorn nacelle
#

well i quit with drinking almost 10 years ago

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heavy drinking ofc. 1-2 bottles dayli while was working in night clubs

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cant afford losing my 120 euro driving license EU for that xD

ebon meadow
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Well if u going that way same I quit at 24 but I still get my few beers after work with 33 lol

thorn nacelle
#

Ofc if i go to Greece will drink but not like crazy

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ye we are in the same boat xD

ebon meadow
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Nah I m in the boat ,small town

thorn nacelle
#

Problem is that i love Wotka and in summer is not optimal cause u get even more warm

ebon meadow
#

We go heavy every day ,touristic town for EU

desert jasper
#

I sometimes brew my own beer or wine

thorn nacelle
#

had job offer for Bilbao still is open

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but to learn spanish now dunno

ebon meadow
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Bro if u want a chill place ,do move

thorn nacelle
#

they good think is that Spanish languange has over 20k Greek words so wont be hard

ebon meadow
#

Bilbao is a very chill place with good fiber

thorn nacelle
#

yes i am thinking not going to stay for long here in Germany. max till 40

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Putin will be here till then too πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
thorn nacelle
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man i listen people talking Spanish and can understand what they saying all around cause words are almost the same

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same is in Germany when i go to Hospital same is with English copy paste

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dunno why i have to learn languanges which are copy paste made from my own

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Spanish-Italian-Greek have many similar words

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Ancient Greek we had in school and i was 14 years old. pure headache.

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very very hard languange to learn

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This is love bridge in Frankfurt. It says : In the City where many languanges will be spoken. All around translate πŸ˜…

thorn nacelle
ebon meadow
#

My 3 "mother langs" are russian ,English and Spanish lol literally the languages I use at home and every single day

thorn nacelle
#

Russian will never going to learn oh boy. seems impossible except going to work season in Norway with russian tourists

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btw best Tourists in Greece are Russians

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they pay and they behave πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
#

German is probably u best bet in tourism there TBF

thorn nacelle
#

nah German,France they dont leave tips

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Scandinavian or Russian thats it

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Netherlands-Belgium getting close too

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have crazy manipulation skills trust me πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
#

I m half Brit half Russia lol I can't vouch for France sorry only gamers that been outside feel like Europe rest is very tough crowd ,my job is selling tools and installations to those people XD

thorn nacelle
#

used to work 3-4 summers close from Mykonos with Tourists. Luxus restaurant and yes i saw/learned to make good money

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but not doing this job anymore

ebon meadow
#

Greek culture and mythology is one of the best of the world btw outside the wars we had with turkey

thorn nacelle
#

i was mixing Holidays having fun and earn money.

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you have to learn first to read people

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then u can play. if u cant play then u are doing wrong job

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reactions matter a lot

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always Female is the boss.

ebon meadow
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If u can make tip on Germans than u good with Ur job lol they like there particular stuff

thorn nacelle
#

keep the Female happy and u win πŸ™‚

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yes u can ofc not all the fingers are the same right. but on average easyer tips are made from Scandinavian or Russians

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we talking about billionairs now what is 200 euro kekW

ebon meadow
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I m in very touristic place with Germans having their villas and stuff I know how to handle them ,and neither of them have balls to call me cartofen xdd

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Might have to do with my grandparents having purple medals

thorn nacelle
#

Thats different

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people living in Villas there and people travel there for 2 weeks

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used to be in Villas too close from Paros. island was named Anti-Paros was only Villas with Tom Hanks etc

ebon meadow
#

True but people people that travel here actually have permant villase to come back to every day ,welcome to white coast

thorn nacelle
#

thats another think thinking for the future. cooking for rich family in their villa or whatever. lost my eyes there lol

ebon meadow
#

It's dumb u live here of tips more than salary

thorn nacelle
#

its so funny and sad same time. some people having so much money and others cant survive the day lol

ebon meadow
#

Like legit 500€ every month on tips on top of vayge

thorn nacelle
#

made 7000 euro in 35 days

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with 7 tables

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was 21 years old πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
thorn nacelle
#

plus my drinks smokes eat whatever include all paid

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u need good kitchen small card and thats it

#

u must know how to sell thinks and when

#

0 mistakes

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1 mistake and u lose everythink.

#

never bring the Bill into table when his Wife is at Toilet.

ebon meadow
#

2 best friends are Spanish and Italian pro shefs and they still pulled out from 52 Celsius kitchen and went to building xdd

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The work is not paid the effort

thorn nacelle
#

you are in Restaurant too? well Kitchen is feelings

ebon meadow
#

Get out of there and do literally anything else u d be more human and calm

thorn nacelle
#

i do cook cause i love my job not about money.

ebon meadow
thorn nacelle
#

in spain-greece-italy kitchens are like this

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in germany not.

ebon meadow
#

My last good kitchen was a 2 Michelin star thing .... Was caved inside the mountain. Doing plumber work with 30 metre slops on a ladder in august is just screwed

thorn nacelle
#

Where i am working now as Sous Chef we have 2 Michelin star restaurant is top 100 in Germany xD

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But normal people cant afford to pay this

ebon meadow
#

No air , briefing in pvc glue for hours on ladder is just fi u I ain't getting paid for it

thorn nacelle
#

Eu has crisis people saving money bro

#

ofc are those with big fat cars and small d.... but thats it all they have πŸ˜„

ebon meadow
#

I mean we have it better than India dude

#

That's my only cope

thorn nacelle
#

yes ofc we are lucky to be here

ebon meadow
#

Looking after a water depurater for an hotel for a year doing their dirty water depuration is a skit

thorn nacelle
#

going off soon. the think is to be glad with what u have and always healthy. rest doesnt matter

ebon meadow
#

I,m glad to learned what I did and not have to mess with human experiments at my age xdd

#

Now I just sell tools to pros lol

#

Plumbing ,power demolition,even electric lmao but I don't go in my knees anymore for anyone

#

Exception if I have to for my family or very close friend

hexed stream
# thorn nacelle nobody born gamer

I actually disagree with that
there are born gamers, just like there are born talents in many professions in life
world is not fair, effort decides how fast you reach your max potential, but talent is what decides how big that potential is

#

truth is, even if you give a person with no gaming talent to play game non-stop 48h per day, they will, in no manner, be able to compete with top tier esports players

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maybe mid tier and below is where they can barely hold their beer

sand wigeon
#

Yeah but being a pro gamer is true L no maiden behavior ong

thorn nacelle
# hexed stream I actually disagree with that there are born gamers, just like there are born ta...

Funny would be if u agree with anythink at all. In your answer is effort aka practise. Humanoids require practise to improve at anythink so its our nature. Ofc are those who believe that are super humans or have high intelligence cause they managed to finish 1 university. Did first blood kills with people never played with before and they also never played any game before. There isnt such a think as Talent is only how fast u can learn thinks or not. Is all about if u wanna learn something or not.

hexed stream
#

like I said, effort decides how fast you reach your potential, talent decides how big that potential is

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and the best people in the world have both

#

wanna learn something doesn't magically make something possible

#

give an average man 100h per day and he still wouldn't ever be able to make some nobel prize level of research or breakthrough

#

my mom is also a strong believer of effort is everything, but I shut her up easily with 1 sentence "no amount of effort without talent can make a person become a billionaire from nothing, or get a nobel prize"
live long enough and I fully understand in this world, effort can get you only so far, like middle class, some average achievement, that's all, higher things require talents that most people lack, that's why such achievements are so rare

sand wigeon
#

I think you’re both wrong.

thorn nacelle
#

Yes i think i am also wrong. Everybody is free to believe whatever he/she likes. There is word saying: learn by doing. Seems those who found that had no idea.πŸ˜‚

ocean rivet
#

Pretty caterpillars in the garden gregory

fierce moth
#

she remembered caterpillars*

A puzzle game's name

abstract coyote
#

have a look at my art guyss, hope you all like it 😍

#

another one, I have done this DND character art for my beloved client. ❀️

fierce moth
#

Done this zone now 🫑 Move to next one.

(It's a GIF)

ember lake
#

This is superb!!

fierce moth
thorn nacelle
#

Kirra u cooking πŸ˜›

junior oyster
#

Adventure quest

thorn nacelle
#

Closer to Baldurs gate mob would say πŸ™‚

indigo shadow
#

Small hiatus from today 2am to at least 12am tomorrow. we have tragic news of passing of my relative.

#

and there's engagement ceremony in this house so, that's why there's 22 hours hiatus.

thorn nacelle
fierce moth
#

🀭 To be honest, what i like indie games the most is a player can contract with or communicate with devs easily, fairly and equally

#

Of course maybe another reason is indie games is the first one which I touched since I start to play games consistently

#

it always amazing that you can grow up with an indie game for a while or longer if this thing is accessible

indigo shadow
fierce moth
#

Fun fact: I unlocked this panel and actived three nodes but I still no idea how to unlock my horse lol

#

πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ oh well figure it out finally...I can't get my horse until Chapter 4...

#

And...Damn it. Super far away from the current waypoint. (I'm on chapter 3)

#

Don't get why many people said they can get their hourses when lv.20+ only. THIS IS A SUPER BIG MAP

fierce moth
#

😡 ...Bye D4. Your route just too twisted and long and I need to sleep.

hexed stream
fierce moth
#

Get my horse finally πŸ™

thorn nacelle
# fierce moth Get my horse finally πŸ™

you should try D4 at release and run with your mount into City-open world.
not that they fixed it now but had so bad pathing.. even Horse movement from Witcher 3 was better compare to that πŸ˜„

#

Gz Kirra πŸ™‚

hexed stream
fierce moth
#

what's gz

hexed stream
#

Congratz I guess

fierce moth
#

lmaooooo lord surprises always full in the abbreviation

hexed stream
#

This is nothing compared to gen Z chat languague lol, it's not earth language anymore, pure martian

fierce moth
#

????? This quest is confusing...Where should I go?

#

...The north. Alright no way on the north is showed so I never think about that

jade jackal
#

This is sort of where user error shows a glaring presence

#

There are zones which meant to be searched in

sand wigeon
#

No, that quest is genuinely badly designed

hexed stream
#

Lol, now we have a drama about wukong black myth being downvoted among western critics because obviously the game that is based on a several hundreds of years old Chinese novel, about Chinese culture and myth, is not inclusive and diverse enough

#

This is getting out of control, woke culture

fierce moth
#

omegalul First time to equip this stone, it looks a bit too heavy and clunky

thorn nacelle
shy sage
hexed stream
#

fan art? wait is that your job? sounds immensly interesting

shy sage
#

It's my plan more than call it a job πŸ˜†
I want to use my voxel aesthetic to exchange something like game copy, game art book copy, game dev friends etc

#

Let more people know there's a art type calls voxel art is the key because it's the only hope for me to gain money by my skills possibly...

A lady who do fan arts with voxel style for indie games is the tag I want to print for myself πŸ™‚

#

Don't want this type of art dead so what I need to do is dig more hided gems in indie games and help them to shine

#

These indie games can give me consistent inspiration on which kind of environment art is more suitable to put in game development too, so it's a good loop

#

If I can join in their development to help with translation, suggestion and management of community then it'll more cool, but they're advanced and it's up to the dev team

fierce moth
#

πŸ€”~~ The question is I will never buy this type of games~~ oh Pavilion.

#

Of course I guess EHG art team can do this level of environment art too

ebon meadow
#

And something that had skins in most games anyway

hexed stream
#

Why do you think disney made the current snow white movie where skin color of snow white has nothing to do with either snow or white?

ember lake
ebon meadow
#

Sorry I was a bit sceptical asking that question ,but was genuinely curious

#

If it looks good and plays good who cares anyway it's just a game

fierce moth
#

Day 1 progress. Lots of works to do... But I'm happy on this version of ground anyway 🫑

thorn nacelle
#

now noticed if u never die by leveling u have a special title there Deathless does the Title remain if u hit lvl100?
or if u die at lvl100 gets auto-removed.

#

is only at Char pannel tho.

vagrant topaz
#

As soon as you die it disappears

fierce moth
#

πŸ€” I guess black myth: Wu Kong is the most popular game on all over the world today

#

179K audiences is watching streams on twitch in this time still

desert jasper
#

Doesn't surprise me, seeing that it just came out today

fierce moth
#

This game had promoted so hard before it's released too

hexed stream
distant frigate
maiden widget
#

or you know the game could just look fun and most people ignore hate bait youtubers

shy sage
#

I'm rich enough to go to gamescom per year is my dream πŸ™ƒ

#

International game exhibits are attractive always...

thorn nacelle
fierce moth
#

πŸ«‚ No.... Sorry to say it's too expensive, Wukong. (I never read monkey king too although it's the most famous Chinese myth)

hexed stream
#

how much is it, haven't been on steam for a very long time

vagrant topaz
#

@abstract coyote No promotion please

hexed stream
#

that's AAA game price already, so really need to see how much game content it has to offer

#

but nowadays every soulslike game price like that, no surprise

thorn nacelle
hot crown
#

Chinese myth so famous, they try their best to insert it everywhere.

#

Not to offend anyone, it just feels like there's really too much of it sometimes.

#

Can't really recall anything else of similar magnitude.

thorn nacelle
#

2016 still price is high. But Darksouls games requires bit more focus to play xD

#

instead prefer less focus gaming after working day

#

also always Controller for darksouls

fierce moth
thorn nacelle
#

@fierce mothwhen u release your Arpg let me know

fierce moth
#

πŸ˜… πŸ˜† πŸ˜‚ I wish I own this level of skills too...

#

Voxel version of last epoch sounds extreme interesting though πŸ˜‚

thorn nacelle
#

so long u practise you never know Kirra πŸ™‚

fierce moth
#

I don't has the key skill yet...Design the gameplay system

#

Wait, maybe I can contract this developer to cooperate on making a voxel ARPG if I have the whole good idea one day lol

(Sounds very crazy indeed)

thorn nacelle
#

Wish had the time to learn something like this..its creative and if u do it with love cant go wrong xD

#

Till you reach the Artist level πŸ˜›

#

was used to cut music back then and listen 12 hours+ dayli music 1930-2000 mostly
(Blues,Rock,Funk,Jazz,Reggae,DnB,TripHop,Hiphop,Electronic,Swing,Ska,Cumbia,Country sometimes House too but find it boring and easy to mix)

#

mixing-cutting loops or mixing songs for 1-4 hours depents.

#

requires tons of time Music is endless.

mental talon
#

November 15th PoE 2 Early Access

fierce moth
#

Too much people want to test it so they must do some filter work

#

Necromancer, new mission coming soon!

viral galleon
#

Man, it would be really awkward to announce a new borderlands game

fierce moth
#

lol Capture a value screenshot (Monkey time...Well good)

#

hah god had used Twitch one year at least but never knoew I can open captions on streams...

viral galleon
narrow token
#

What?

hexed stream
sand wigeon
#

About 88% (estimated) of Black Myth Wukong’s concurrent players are in China, for reference.

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It’s not doing well internationally, I’d say.

thorn nacelle
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Yes we going to buy it now.. let me grab my mastercardπŸ˜…

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Rememper to return and check a month laterπŸ˜‚

sand wigeon
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It seems like a good game, it’s just that over-the-shoulder action games aren’t popular in the international market right now. From my understanding, its garnered decent interest from souls-likes fans and some other genres like action-fighting games.

thorn nacelle
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Numbers tell me nothing. Banana was top 2 on charts and was just simulator clicker.

sand wigeon
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Banana is more than a simulator clicker, actually. It is a genuine scam.

thorn nacelle
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Imagine clicking a banana in 2024 in order to make money. Ultra loser🀣

sand wigeon
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Basically, the scam functions off of Steam’s community market. The entire game was developed in a way where the community market could be exploited by the dev to make money.

thorn nacelle
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Those thinks was made to make people rich yes.

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Smells from miles that is scam rofl

sand wigeon
shy sage
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Story background is the biggest obstacle of course

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Base on the Chinese myth heavily so must popular in China but it looks confusing under another countries

thorn nacelle
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Gambling is addicting think. Once in time was gaming mobile games and saw how casino works by playing a gameπŸ˜…

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There is no luck. All is set up. Each move u do is calculated

sand wigeon
# shy sage Base on the Chinese myth heavily so must popular in China but it looks confusing...

Exactly. Overtime, people in the west have become much more introspective about other cultures and settings possible within them. I’d frankly say that western audiences have been wanting something set in something such as Chinese Mythology, especially amongst the communities Black Myth Wukong has attracted; souls-likes, action-fighting games, etc. Take Sekiro, SIFU and Absolver as off-the-head examples. The issue is that these communities aren’t very large.

thorn nacelle
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By the way you see which games are Masterpiece during the time and the playerbase. Baldurs gate 3 game was finished at release minor bugs today still has 70-80k players. Elder ring same all around, Red dead 2 if they heard the community about their broken launcher prolly will have more players and not so many cheats online mode.

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Cyberpunk bad release fixed tho later on. Witcher 3 still has decent player base for 10 years old almost game.

sand wigeon
thorn nacelle
sand wigeon
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Neither of these games are masterpieces, no matter how much they’re loved.

sand wigeon
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Hence why it isn’t performing well in the west

thorn nacelle
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Did played Baldurs gate 3 and Sekiro at release. Compare to what i see today yes games had minor bugs. Game was playable and optimized

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Specially Sekiro

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Cause i am using 2018 gpu and running 2k graphics 80 fps everythink maxed and my pc runs smoothly means game is good optimized

sand wigeon
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I said nothing about Sekiro.

thorn nacelle
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If my Pc turns into Helicopter at medium graphics means gg

sand wigeon
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Again, BG3 had missing content upon release and had many game breaking bugs I personally experienced.

thorn nacelle
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Yes but Baldurs gate 3 is huge game and has 30 different endings

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Respect for their work even amateur can see that they put a lot of love to make this game

sand wigeon
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So they were under crunch and the execs released the game before it was ready, yes. This impacts nothing about its release.

thorn nacelle
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Personally those minor bugs didnt effect my 130hours first playthrough. Just this turn based mode is not my think. If i was Dad prolly will play it long term

sand wigeon
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I am being as objective I can about the quality of a game. Do I like BG3? No, it’s not for me, but I can understand the qualityβ€”but objectively, this is the state it was in on release, snd that’s not to mention any flaws within the broader writing. Do I love Elden Ring? Initially, I didβ€”despite the issues upon releaseβ€”but my opinion has changed overtime. These things aren’t simple, they’re a mixed bag; I see the same quality concern issues in these games get brushed off because they were treated like the next messiah. It’s unfair to the broader industry.

thorn nacelle
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But the thinks u could do with different classes and builds was amazing. Also your actions do matter a lot. Fun game

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Was my first experience ever in this type of rpg. Unistalled ofc takes so much place in my Ssd.

sand wigeon
thorn nacelle
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But compare to Diablo 4 release example... they also ask 90 dollars for 3 days early access into their beta game lol

sand wigeon
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I see nothing wrong with that.

thorn nacelle
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Thats the main reason i hate Diablo 4. Cause they try to manupulate my intelligence. They give u not finished game empty and they ask full price. Red card straight

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I heard that prolly will add platinum materials on shop to buy with real money. I was 99% d4 will be trash. But my friends pushed me so hard to buy it..

sand wigeon
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The game was finished upon release, and pretending otherwise is silly. I played it in those pre-release days and the game was fully completable. It had a lacking endgame, but that can be said about any S1 ARPG, and it was clearly more about the story than previous Diablo titles.

thorn nacelle
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Endgame did no exist. Horse did no behave. Every season is based on multiplicative broken powers. Lilith was bugged dunno how many times died there with my rogue cause of broken anti melee mechanics. Red color mechanics on top of red color floor. Dunno what else

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Season 4 should be d4 release

sand wigeon
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The floors being red with red colors was an issue, yes.

thorn nacelle
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Then maybe game had a change

sand wigeon
thorn nacelle
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I love Diablo but this thinks i saw made me sad and annoyed. Problem here is are 2 big fun groups

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1 group is old school aka d1/d2 gamers and the other group are the zoomers d3 or whatever else clone from D2 got released after.

sand wigeon
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Especially because of all the fully-voiced and properly written side quests in the game. There are obviously the usual issues with side quests, but there were many that were well written. Additionally, D4 is beautifully crafted visually and the main story had great voice acting.

thorn nacelle
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So Devs cant make both happy

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So far the second group winning and you see how D4 progress into time

sand wigeon
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And they shouldn’t. The older players will be upset no matter what, whereas a newer audience is more malleable to change. This can be good or bad.

thorn nacelle
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I mean used to talk on the street with nerds of my city either old or young. Those who never played D1-D2 will never understand

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And its 99% normal

sand wigeon
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Simply providing to long-time fans and older players creates a stagnant and toxic community. This is evident amongst D2 communities, due to a lack of new-player integration and toxicity toward other communities and games, including their own series.

thorn nacelle
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Toxicity and humans goes always together on any game

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Its from our nature this think lol

sand wigeon
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Proportionally, yes. But if it’s the majority, then no.

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Any community will have toxic subsets, but when the majority is toxic, you have an issue.

thorn nacelle
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Jokes aside. Speedrunned,dadrunned,casual,first blood kills leading, whatever game played in my life so far internet-Lan mode people was always annoyed and toxic to each other. Very few can control their manners and mostly have no issues with losing.

sand wigeon
thorn nacelle
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Usually are older people but not always have seen 50 years old acting like 10 cause lost his loot

sand wigeon
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We have extraordinarily different experiences, so I can’t really comment. I can also make the assumption our experiences would be inordinately different because I am a very young woman, and from what I understand, you are not a woman nor very young, which obviously leads to wildly different perspectives.

thorn nacelle
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You are very young man means? XD

sand wigeon
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Very young woman?

thorn nacelle
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Last think i forget to add is that from Blizzard you have high excpectations. Is not any Indie company and u expect quality not Quantity.

thorn nacelle
sand wigeon
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NP lmao

thorn nacelle
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Is not polite to ask a female how old she is anyway πŸ˜…

sand wigeon
sand wigeon
thorn nacelle
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I am bit older and i can understand your generation too. I would be the same if i was younger. I just grow up with 1980s generation and also played in internet caffes back then was a think(early 2000s)

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Mixed with Football outside and other thinks. Different times

thorn nacelle
sand wigeon
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Yeah, internet cafes don't super exist in a lot of places now. Plenty of people still play sports though lmao

sand wigeon
thorn nacelle
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Well in Germany walking to my work and see babies with iphone in their hands going to school

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I was 19 years old when got my first phone named : Nokia

sand wigeon
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Sounds like bad parenting and nothing else.

thorn nacelle
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Ya cause parents are busy and kids lose their brains with this very early on. Good part is that they learn fast new languanges but ya

thorn nacelle
sand wigeon
thorn nacelle
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But i think they require more info aka your Email your real life name. Heard some crazy stories about hacks and what people are possible to do..

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I am so glad that born in 80-90s πŸ˜…

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Anyway have a nice day and thanks for the talkπŸ˜‰

sand wigeon
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You too

hexed stream
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from yesterday to today I've watched 4-5 renowned game streamers that I'm pretty sure are too rich to care about dev money, and they all ranked the game somewhere 8-9/10

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a lot more westerners are interested in chinese mythology than you imagine, especially since journey to the west is 1 of the 4 most classic novels of the whole chinese literature

sand wigeon
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Again, I said nothing bad about the actual game, the game is great

sand wigeon
hexed stream
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I find that suspicious, because if they do count, there's no way the game will stop at 2.2mil peak concurrent players

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but can be explained, chinese players are usually not so interested in souls-like games, even if it's a super easy one

sand wigeon
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Well, they do count it, so I dunno what to say

hexed stream
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anway, good for the game, really high reception even among western streamers and their audience

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asmon even gave the game 9.5/10

sand wigeon
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Sure, my only point was that the style of game Black Myth Wukong is, simply isn’t very popular amongst the western communities right now

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Also, streamers aren’t a good gauge of quality in any way

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Or really anything aside from entertainment TBH

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The critique I assume you’re referencing was a genuinely thought-out multi-paragraph explanation on some of their issues with the diversity in the game, especially because the game comes from a development studio with intense HR issues.

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This is objectively false. The language you’re using right now is also a big dog whistle for less accepting viewpoints, so I’m going to step away from the convo, as it’s making me uncomfortable and I don’t think the mods would want it to continue. Have a good night!

hexed stream
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I mean, if you think that way, then no review in this world is credible, except our own subjective review

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unless you can prove to me otherwise

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and critics, luckily, are pretty powerless in influencing players what to play and not nowadays, compared to say 10-15 years ago

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pretty funny accusation isn't it, considering china is the first country in human history to adopt meritocracy on a national scale

sand wigeon
hexed stream
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and maybe if it's just me, but the only thing I care about a product is the quality in and of itself, not about it's made by whom

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actually I'm amazed the game is even allowed to be finished in china, the whole idea of the game is practically anti-dictatorship

thorn nacelle
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Companies choose China cause is cheaper vs Eu i guess

hexed stream
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game science is chinese studio or from which country?

thorn nacelle
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@hexed stream may i ask how old are you just was wondering if u want to say if not np. I mean on general Companies move to China cause of cheaper hands either its gaming industry or whatever else

hexed stream
thorn nacelle
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Are u from China?

hexed stream
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no, from those 3rd world countries

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but most have very deep economic tie with china, so we understand them quite well

thorn nacelle
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China is famous for the ultra heavy industry have watched many documentaries about that country. Rivers are poisoned cause of Eu Pc parts are getting throwed there. Tomatos or whatever else also produced there and exported to Eu

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Many thinks are copy-paste cheaper made in China and most used in Eu instead original parts from Germany or Japan etc

hexed stream
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yup, they started from very low industrial base after WW2, and all these decades have to play catchup game with the west
pollution, I would say, China is going thru exactly what western countries went thru 200 years ago during 1st industrial revolution, pollution and stuff, just on a bigger scale

thorn nacelle
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Quality wise either u going to be lucky or not. But still is cheaper vs original so np xD

hexed stream
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yeah, buying stuff on alibaba is a massive gamble

thorn nacelle
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Personally will never want to live there. Only the sky to watch is enough. With masks etc sad

hexed stream
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and they have some very unethical e-commerce like online pet sale, I think that's very stupid, imagine a living pet packed in box to deliver to customers, it can die during delivery

thorn nacelle
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No idea about more specific thinks just colture wise what they eat and how they live is another level.

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Same goes for Saudi Arabia yes its money paradise but to live 99% of my life in Aircondition prefer to be poorπŸ˜…

hexed stream
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quality of life can only be improved with being wealthier, for now they are still 3 times behind developed countries in terms of income per capita, so we expect the qol to lag behind as well, but well, still ways better than where I am
at least their infrastructure is world class, which explains why their logistics cost is so cheap

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but even if it improves, I still don't want to live there, you know: dictatorship, censorship, and other social issues

thorn nacelle
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In Eu are also many countries poor but is bit different cause people own their homes and eat healty from the nature which is more important than material aka money but ya

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It is what it is xD

hexed stream
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well, talk about home ownership, I think even US got it worse than china

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europe is still the peak of human qol for the next few decades as far as I can foresee

thorn nacelle
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I am coming from a country where Democrasy and Market where born sadly non of those thinks exists nowdays.
Tbh i dont like talk about Politiks not is allowed here to talk about it. (Waste of time)
Point is to be healthy and happy with what u already have in life.πŸ˜‰

ember lake
thorn nacelle
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@ember lake hey AveπŸ˜‡

hexed stream
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I'm actually hyped for titan quest 2 gamescom stream, arpg strong

desert jasper
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I should play through Titan Quest again
but it's just so slow start

ember lake
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Yeah, I also didn't realise TQ counted as an ARPG so technically I have played an ARPG before LE πŸ˜…

maiden widget
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The remaster has some speed slider that is quite nice - replayed it last summer on my steam deck its still pretty beautiful for its age

hexed stream
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Or sacred series

ember lake
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Nope, I was too young when they came out and I started my gaming on different genres so never crossed paths with them

shy sage
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Just know monument valley 3 will come out on 2024.12.10😱

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My DNA of puzzle games is actived

hexed stream
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so uhm, d4 will finally have party finder in the next season

thorn nacelle
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Titan quest 2 and Poe 2 will give a try for sure. πŸ™‚

fierce moth
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oh Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor is the other one

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Too much new games shows on Gamescom... Checking out the list

thorn nacelle
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What about the Graphics? where is the shop to buy 90 dollars horse? bad game

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@fierce moth gregory ty for sharing πŸ™‚

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i believe 2025 will be very interesting year about arpg genre games.

fierce moth
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Sharing many discovers on Gamescom which based on my flavour:
Rich at story telling by immersive environments, animations and BGM- The Occultist
The same type with last Epoch so want to try- Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor/ Lindwyrm/ Astera/ Titan quest 2
Games which I knew or just knew but I'm sure I can't offer- Avowed/ Little nightmares 3/ Frostpunk 2 /Sid Meier's Civilization 7/ Diablo 4: vessel of hatred/ S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl/

thorn nacelle
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Stalker 2 yes. Vessel of Scamed nop. πŸ˜„

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Only the fact that they failed so badly to deliver what they promised early now want also expansion.
Coolstorybro xD

fierce moth
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Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor and Titan quest 2 is the game which no demo is available but on my wishlist

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Let me check out the discord server of Godforged: Origins of Ozgalor and notice how their progress of development going

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Downloading demos of remain games :)

thorn nacelle
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i think TQ 2 it will be good. based on comments about TQ1.
also Greek Mythology what can go wrong xD

fierce moth
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πŸ˜‚ The funny fact is the server looks like not to be built completely yet...No chat channel is available.

thorn nacelle
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Optimized game is more important than ingame chat if its single player focused anyway

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had potetional but gg.

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Devs started nerfing everythink 2-3 days after release.

hexed stream
thorn nacelle
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even the word mythology is greek xD comes from Mythos and Logos.Myth -> Mythos**Logos -> Speach

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i find any Mythology interesting doesn't matter from which country it comes from.

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Zeus was Chad. omegalul

hexed stream
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yeah, but the mythology is a bit too alabama for my taste haha

thorn nacelle
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You cant take Mythology serius.. reason its called Mythology xD

viral galleon
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If they can make tq2 the way the original devs wanted to make 1, I'll be really interested

hasty grail
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Any1 here pre-order the D4 expansion? S5 is pretty good.

I've vowed to not get back into LE until 1.6. Got hundreds of hours pre and post release

vagrant topaz
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1.6!?!

hasty grail
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lol yeah - i love LE but burnt out

mental talon
viral galleon
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I've played a bit of d4 and I can't have any hype for the expansion

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The new class doesn't fit with the diablo aesthetic

thorn nacelle
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Sorry to ask but what is the new class? Didnt bother even clicking on their videosπŸ˜…

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Seems Poe 2 this year and 2025 Titan quest 2. Also something else going to pop in between i am sure xD

hasty grail
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spirit born, it's like a druid but plays like a d3 monk lol

fierce moth
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πŸ‘€ Spoiler of next fan art: ||It's relevant to desert|| Close to be done, will post it later

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it's an enthusiasm-consuming work indeed, less and less desire to open le

white turret
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Anyone from Greece I can ask a simple question? πŸ˜„

viral galleon
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One of the things I liked about d4 was that it tried to focus on new places and characters but now we're gonna go do member berries for d2.

hexed stream
thorn nacelle
fierce moth
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heavybreathing New work is out! The second one @ember lake

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@small sky Do you know which zone is it? 🀨

small sky
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Feels very familiar, 100% within the desert. πŸ€”
Really pretty and nice πŸ‘Œ

fierce moth
thorn nacelle
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Monk-Warrior is more into Wow would say than Diablo dunno if it was in Diablo 3 also

desert jasper
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monk was in d3

thorn nacelle
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Ok then they copy paste it from Wow to D3. Dunno when D3 got released before or after expansion of Pandaria

desert jasper
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Don't know, don't care

thorn nacelle
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Yes but i didnt asked u 🀣

desert jasper
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And since you say you don't know if it was in d3
how do you know it was just a copypaste from wow to D3 πŸ™„

thorn nacelle
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Have to check on internet when d3 got released and when pandaria got released takes 10 seconds

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Yes Monk is copy paste from Wow Pandaria expansion.

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Cause i dont play trash games thats why @desert jasper

desert jasper
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Yea that's why I don't play wow or d4

thorn nacelle
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Is not whole wow trash. It used to be good Dev team back then

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Aka Vanilla wow,Tbc,Woltk was decent specially Vanilla wow is one of the best mmo rpgs ever made. Simple and fun

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Diablo 4 did played cause of my friends thats why otherwise will never buy that game. Was smelling scam from miles. Only that i see game at release 90 dollars 3 days per access is more than enough to understand.

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Reason nowdays people thinking for Vanilla fresh again. There is hardcore server too. Had 400 days played casual

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Cause Company back then was different to today. They bring content into their games.

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Nowdays whales diablo immortal many people spend their money to buy skill etc Gdkps mastercards its normal Company to be like this. I cant blame only the Company but people fault too. What u give u earn

ember lake
hexed stream
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πŸ₯²

desert jasper
shy sage
thorn nacelle
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Depents each person has his/her own idea.

hexed stream
shy sage
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That's a tough question to elaborate due to no shared users API on it... Will check it out after I go home πŸ˜…

hot crown
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My ISP attempted to screw with me today (their PON terminal switched from bridge mode to router mode out of the blue)... sigh. Guess they succeeded in some way (I had to reset my router to factory defaults and redo the config from scratch, hopefully it was worth it in the end...).

small spindle
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What are these?

desert jasper
hot crown
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PS/2 ports, to be exact.

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For mouse and keyboard respectively, yes. Those are dated but still functional.

small spindle
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Tks

fierce moth
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There's a question for my gears is I don't know which type of gears is what I'm equipped

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Which are these...Overwhelming

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🀭 ...What the funny thing is i guess these types are prepared for exclusive skills from this item but no one on the website can match with the one from my helm

fierce moth
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What these dots means❔

hexed stream
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which planner site are you using? I recommend maxroll d4 planner

fierce moth
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mobalytics

hexed stream
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the blue, yellow, orange are color code for masterworking

fierce moth
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masterworking?

hexed stream
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typo

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masterworking has crit on every 4th, 8th, 12th, so 3 crits per item, if an affix got 1 crit, it's blue, 2 yellow, 3 orange

fierce moth
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Crit?

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🀣 🀣 🀣 I know nothing on this game really

hexed stream
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every game takes time to learn, like LE, pretty sure it also took long for you to learn crafting system too

fierce moth
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🫑 Maybe I can communicate with you on my builds when my class is lv.70? Lv. 52 only and I'm focus on random exploring on the map and complete main quests to be honest

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I even don't unlock world tier 3

hexed stream
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lvl52 should have unlocked wt4 already 🀯 sure if anything just ask me, but for now are you following a leveling guide or something?

fierce moth
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πŸ˜… I'm immerse in reading the story...Oh NOOOOO...Sad, rip, little girl πŸ™

hexed stream
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ah yeah, I forgot you still go thru campaign

thorn nacelle
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Mods ftw

fierce moth
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🀭 Oh I get what's masterworking finally...It's locked unfortunately

thorn nacelle
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heavybreathing its where rng party begins xD

fierce moth
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πŸ€” Mine is 33h now. Not sure what's extras

thorn nacelle
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extras i guess are the quests all over the map.

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the optional ones which have nothing to do with the Main story.

fierce moth
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hahaha no one answer it right yet πŸ‘€ maybe I had increased the difficulty too much

fierce moth
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highfive Just killed Lilith. I guess I'm close to the end of main story...?

junior oyster
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That is the end yes

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Until the expansion that is

fierce moth
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😒 I want to read the whole story again because...Many details I maybe missed by language's barrier

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But this is a epic story without doubt.

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Not a easy thing at all to build a story to connect so many biomes. Very amazing when I look back the map and recall where I walked...

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Oh forget something...Many familiar shadows exists in both of D4 and LE. LE did a good job on inherit many D4's shadows to turn into the own things, like the skill of poisoned nemesis (parallel arrows), double periods from the same boss, evade button, the health bar of bosses etc.

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What I don't like the control of combat in D4 is there's a skill triggered by left-click...This is the same key for movement too so I always moving instead of activating that skill when I want to active it πŸ™ƒ

sand wigeon
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You can change that in settings

hexed stream
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at least in d4 it allows you to change left click to pure movement/npc interaction

blissful token
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Oh my... Heroes of Might and Magic: Olden Era POG

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So much feel from Heroes III

hexed stream
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hmm, so this whole criticism about steam count of black myth wukong has been busted, it turns out very little of the millions of steam players playing the game are from china

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so it was found out that the majority of chinese players, inside china, they don't buy the game from steam, but from another local game store called wegame, owned by tencent

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man, 90% of steam concurrent playercounts from china omegalul

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steam china has like what, less than 54 games

thorn nacelle
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Bought it last night going to play at weekend. Has similarities from Ghost of tsusima in combat aka change stances i saw so far. Super graphic game

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Who cares now if those 2-3 millions are chinese or japenese.. 🀣
Point is that its the first game of that company and they trully nailed it.

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Wish all games was released like that. Running rx5700xt nitro gpu/cpu 3600x and on 2k graphics + all settings high 70 fps.

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0 crashes. Same experience had with Ghost of Tsusima and Sekiro.

thorn nacelle
thorn nacelle
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Imagine how easy is Lilith to kill her like this πŸ˜… s1-s2 had to grind hours nightmare dungeons and also clear t100 first in order to hava a change to kill Lilith.

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Not to mentioned required almost days to hit lvl100 while now in 3-4 hours max u are lvl100. That is when i say arcade mode arpg.

sand wigeon
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I'm interested to know more

sand wigeon
hexed stream
# sand wigeon Source?
  1. steam doesn't count console players, which is massive in china
  2. most chinese gamers don't even have steam account, and I mean steam china, meanwhile wegame in china is the largest game store, owned by tencent, and can be logged in using wechat, no account creation needed
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  1. wegame sells black myth wukong at only $40
  2. I just surf the website store.steamchina.com, guess what, I don't even see black myth wukong there
shy sage
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Lol steamChina is a special version of steam which under the more strict and odd rule. Devs can gain more money and don't need the permission of Chinese government on original version so it's not popular.

hexed stream
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yeah, part is political and part is economical

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steam china has to share 12% game revenue back to valve, that's the deal in china
while wegame is a completely chinese owned company, all the money stays within the country

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why make life difficult and ask all kinds of permission to release a game on steam china while you can just talk to wegame, seal a deal, and publish the game immediately

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the sole reasons steam china still exists still now are: dota2, cs2 (was csgo), pubg

thorn nacelle
desert jasper
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It just went on the list of games that i'll eventually buy when I can afford

sand wigeon
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Since it sounds like more concrete info on the player breakdowns is available

hexed stream
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I don't understand what you mean? which part of "black myth wukong is not for sale on steam china" do you not understand?

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if it's not for sale on steam china, of course steam count for the players in china will be a good old zero

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or do you suggest steamdb can somehow count the players using wegame as well?

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and if you want proof, I gave you steam china website above, can check for yourself