📚┃off-topic

[copper pawn]

But you have to tell me specifically which one, because to me GD is 90% TQ, so I don't even know which of the remaining 10% comes from poe

[real sable]

Besides, it's all a moot point because every arpg is just copying d2

[real sable]

From a quick glance at the wiki, the only thing truly unique to gd compared to other arpgs (not anymore thanks to LE) was one time chests

Maybe the reputations too

If we're just talking arpgs

But I think the first sacred had rep vendors?

[copper pawn]

GD was made as a successor to TQ, therefore most of it can't be unique by nature

Even the engine is the same

[real sable]

And TQ piggybacked off of the success of D2. The most unique feature it had was that mobs used and dropped equipment

[copper pawn]

Double mastery is a unique thing on its own

I mean TQ

[real sable]

Sure

[copper pawn]

GD has constellations, which may be inspired from elders scrolls, so I guess not too unique

[real sable]

The two aren't really the same tbh. Skyrim's was just skill trees in a pretty nebula

GD's at least have some depth to them

[copper pawn]

Yeah that's the difference betweer an rpg and arpg

[real sable]

Hell I wouldn't even call the elder scrolls games after Morrowind rpgs

Immersive sims really

Their actual rpg mechanics are so watered down

[copper pawn]

Faction system I can't remember they take idea from which game. Thinking of TL2 fame system

[real sable]

World of warcraft

Don't be upset, everyone was copying wow in some way

Remember when every fucking game had dailies?

[daring shore]

even today

games have dailies

[copper pawn]

Nah, nothing to feel upset, copy and do well is better than innovate and work like shit

[daring shore]

Y8 is going to have dailies and that shit is a SP RPG

[copper pawn]

Dafuq is dailies in an arpg?

[daring shore]

god i hope those daily missions i saw in the screen is literally Daily as in game time

[real sable]

CONGRATULATIONS YOU BULLIED A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER 3 DAYS IN A ROW! POST THIS STATUS TO FACEBOOK?

[real sable]

Repeatable quests

[daring shore]

[real sable]

Specifically repeatable quests you do for rep or part of a bigger meta grind

[copper pawn]

Thoughts and prayers to TQ2 that they can outdo GD

[real sable]

If their engine doesn't run like trash that'll be a win

[copper pawn]

TQ2 will be on UE5, they confirm that

No longer shitty engine

[real sable]

Oh okay so it'll run like trash

But hey fortnite skins right gamers?

Built in live service framework pog

[copper pawn]

Hmm what do I do for tmr since I quit d4 season? Maybe stay away from gaming for a month?

[daring shore]

sir

you just argued for hours for d4

the season started like a day ago

why are you quitting

[copper pawn]

I argued that s2 was good bro
S3, the one just started, play like shit

[daring shore]

so D4 is ass

and bad

[copper pawn]

Yup, I expect s2 to be the pinnacle of vanilla d4, unless s4 itemization rework can topple my expectation

[real sable]

D4 was never and will never be designed to topple expectations

Too risky, sell skins

It just has to function for a week to get streamers back to buy packs

[copper pawn]

Hard to say about that, d4 is just repeating d3 history

D3 vanilla was ass, RoS was at least nice ass, only after s15 or something that the game became good

[real sable]

D3 was great with ros

They found their niche by then

[copper pawn]

Since d3 is officially in maintenance mode, they should move the d3 team to work on d4

That team is imo greater than all d4 dev combined

[real sable]

Best Activision can do is fire everyone, hire inexperienced devs for minimum wage, and wonder why reviews bad

[copper pawn]

Nah, now only MS can fire people, and they should fire shit tons of people in Actiblizz

Like 80% is leeching on the work of the remaining 20%

Sleepy Joe

[real sable]

Sleepy joe? What?

[copper pawn]

Joe Shely, d4 director, always appears sleepy 😴, Blizzard must have worked him off like a professional slave

[real sable]

Y'all watch their livestreams? The ones where they spend half an hour upfront shilling diablo immortal?

Could never be me

[eternal sky]

[waxen sonnet]

Omg D4 bad?

Y'all are innovators of true thinking

[eternal sky]

couldnt have said it better

[waxen sonnet]

def not sarcastic, not me

[faint mauve]

100% not touching d4 s3

even google doesnt show positive news about it

[simple needle]

google reddit discord

wudijo

everywhere

[copper pawn]

I can confirm it after playing for half a day

I wonder how ziz feels after he played yesterday

prolly suffer mental damage

[stone apex]

Anyone have a invite link to actionrpggaming?

[copper pawn]

What game is that?

[copper pawn]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QG05s1u7Zks?si=pzX5UZQ97OVp7oAe
To be expected

[copper pawn]

You can't have fun if the antifans don't allow it

[faint mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZiCl8mPSAU lol

[copper pawn]

and he is right
in my memory as bad as s1 was, still felt better than this s3

or I think about it: d4 is having a Great Leap Forward

[daring shore]

D4 is bad

what a suprise

i totally didnt see this coming

[faint mauve]

yeah enough is enough for me

[near hedge]

who was the one town crier we had that came by every morning to remind us d4 bad

[simple needle]

Nem

@humble moth

[near hedge]

ah yes, thats right

[humble moth]

enjoy ur game 🤗

[simple needle]

Say it nem

[copper pawn]

wonder what I do now, back to poe ssf I guess

[humble moth]

i cant even say it, someone cried about it to mods

its bannable now

[daring shore]

D4 BAD LOL

[lethal bane]

Perhaps it was Nem who was bad all along

Perhaps Nem is D4 made flesh

[shadow sundial]

kalandra says... PEEK A BOO

i had spawned a legion, bunch of eldritch altars on me, risking it for the biscuit. i almost never die, but i died from whatever bullshit. i laid there dead as my ignites were propagating around and killing stuff. heard the SHINK sound from the filter but it was offscreen. came back in to see that

came through for me

or actually, fuck, no.. they would have been 1x each side by side if that triggered. this must have been a Quant plus up?

[twilit mountain]

You need to stop

Your luck is bullshit

[shadow sundial]

this pain train has no brakes

1 HH, 1 MB, 4x MoK

[twilit mountain]

I hope you realize how stupid your luck is

[shadow sundial]

i mean, i'm running full MF gear in gigajuiced maps

[twilit mountain]

Yes I know

So was I

So were half my friends

[shadow sundial]

but, did you make Beltshrines to Rngeezus though?

[twilit mountain]

4 mirrors even in that, even in this league, is extraordinarily lucky

[shadow sundial]

if you're not making shrines to the gods then i don't know what to tell you

[copper pawn]

lucky I play ssf, so even if I drop mirror Idk what to do with it, so it better not dropping for me

[shadow sundial]

i've made about 2 mirrors worth of divines just selling shit i craft in 5-10 mins of dicking around in my hideout every now and then too

so the drops aren't even really relevant to my progression

[twilit mountain]

That part is mostly just inflation. Dramatically less people crafting than usual, so prices have skyrocketed.

[shadow sundial]

yeah. sold a ton of 50-150div items that i would have thought would be maybe 15-30d otherwise

[twilit mountain]

A simple low difficulty double influence craft will sell for like 10x it's normal price right now, it's comical

[shadow sundial]

apparently everyone elses pain train also has no brakes. they just zipped right past the Crafting Station and kept charging down that track

[warped wren]

you can legitimately make a 50+ divs MF helm in, like, <10

absurd economy

[shadow sundial]

❤️

[warped wren]

that's like 5d right now isn't it

[shadow sundial]

i dunno, i stocked up awhile ago, probably

[warped wren]

I am debating how to pass the time till LE 1.0

Palworld wasn't for me

[shadow sundial]

i dropped like 100d on a bunch of essence/fossil/eldritch/etc awhile ago and have been using it here and there

[copper pawn]

I'm thinking the same thing, palworld is also not for me

more poe? idk

or just stay away from arpg till LE 1.0

[shadow sundial]

get a nice juicy game of Factorio going. that'll hold you over for a month

[sly wing]

Dwarf fortress!

[faint mauve]

ssf can be good in that its not just a currency farm meta

still probably much more efficient league starting with an mf char to gear up your preferred build

[simple needle]

Is there an Last Epoch Unofficial discord with all the regulars in it?

[elfin stream]

what? noooo

[daring shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864189358348304394/1200105697879265280/abDH7bphCgYM9_57.mp4?ex=65c4f887&is=65b28387&hm=234f12000d8cbd7909cb5262f86ad33d6295eb4d12fa36ed357b497557a98ebe&

[eternal sky]

[shadow sundial]

can Hinekora's Lock only drop on certain maps? i switched away from Jungle Valley farming to mix it up a bit. my first two Burial Chambers each dropped a Lock

they were the first two locks i've dropped all league

[turbid trail]

All maps with wisps can drop locks

And ratio is 1 mirror = 3.5 locks = 35 sacred orbs

According to some huge scale tests that happened recently in community

[shadow sundial]

I dropped 4 mirrors before getting my first lock, wheeee

[warped wren]

tbf fubgun and tuna have been questioning this ratio lately, even though they were two of the biggest contributors to the data pool for it

apparently purple juice conversions can influence it? idk

[junior oyster]

Sacred orbs don't drop very often right? Are they still mostly useless or do they have a better use this league?

[warped wren]

I mean, if you're crafting mirror tier gear sure

useful

[eternal sky]

Its good for like

ES and arm builds

To gain some flat

[rugged island]

Palworld broke 2 million concurrent

they did it

wowwwww

2nd highest peak of all time

[daring shore]

it will go higher

probably

as far as i know February is a very empty month

there is like DD2 in march

idk what that could be a big game in Feb

lemme check

Helldivers 2 and granbluefantasy at the start and FF7rebirth at the end of the month

we might see some fall with FF7 maybe

[warped wren]

Detonate Dead 2?

[daring shore]

Dragons dogma 2

[rugged island]

no way it breaks PUBG's 3m record

right

right...?

[warped wren]

don't think it will, even with the all the hype

[daring shore]

also is this 2m on steam

or is Gamepass on this

2m

[warped wren]

shooters inherently have a higher audience pop

[rugged island]

just steam

gamespass doesnt show numbers publically

[daring shore]

it may even be close or already past 3m

[rugged island]

for all we know its past 3m

ya

[placid yarrow]

We need 4 people to make negative reviews for palworld

[viral galleon]

Are the majority of negative reviews "waaah indie game successful, infringe copyright, accusations of foul play"

[eternal sky]

dear lord a game actually succeed these days

[daring shore]

God forbid a game actually gives people what they want instead of the same thing but less things for the last god knows how long on a singular platform

[copper pawn]

time for more poe ssf

[simple needle]

@daring shore Drake in tekken

[daring shore]

[copper pawn]

what's this doped cosmetics? I want

[eternal sky]

annihilator pack wings i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15t8GYYi4Tc

dang that was 2 years ago

[simple needle]

160 usd 💀

[copper pawn]

ah forget it

[placid yarrow]

Watafak

Lol that's fucked

[simple needle]

I hope it doesnt happen to me in my lifetime

oof thats a phobia

[warped wren]

Picked up Warhammer Darktide on sale today

'ate 'eretics. Like ta smash. For da empruh

[copper pawn]

almost read eretics as erotic lol, my brain is fked up

[sly wing]

It's a nice game, I have a few hundred hours in it. Just don't go near the subreddit.

[clever hollow]

or if you join the official darktide discord
just stay at ogryn chat
surprisingly the most civil and chill place on said discord

[maiden widget]

Ogryn together stronk

[clever hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[copper pawn]

asking poe question: is totem kill counted as your kill?

[faint mauve]

nop, to proc what

[copper pawn]

% life on kill for example

[faint mauve]

no

[elfin stream]

there's gloves that specifically make it so it does count, but not sure if that includes totems nor is it worth it just for some life on kill

[copper pawn]

so basically totems scale with player stats instead of minion stats, but behave just like minions

[copper pawn]

no wonder LE moves the whole totem portion under minion instead of the way poe does

smart

[warped wren]

Only if your totems are inflicting ailments and those ailments kill mobs. In that case for some reason it counts as you making the kill

[copper pawn]

does this penetration affect totem?

[turbid trail]

Yes

[copper pawn]

ah ok, then this prefix, combined with the suffix that gives totem taking % damage before you, should be bis for totem builds

[turbid trail]

What totems are you using?

[warped wren]

Yeah totems taking damage before you can be quite neat

Frankly with any kind of poison totems getting life on kill is insanely good for clear

[copper pawn]

holy flame

[daring shore]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-21094172

[native blaze]

did they ever change defense objectives so you don't have to do that obnoxious hacking minigame at the same time as fending off the enemies

[daring shore]

they didnt

also i do not agree with the obnoxious part personally

its a slow moving press the thing at the correct time puzzle

1 step below is literally just having a bar that fills up

altho then you can argue why didnt they do that ?

[sly wing]

Only problem with it is if your teammates are idiots and don't defend you while you do the job

[daring shore]

well that is not the objectives fault now is it

[warped wren]

horde shooter without cooperative objectives is kinda pointless

DRG has a lot of such mini game stuff

[near hedge]

https://cybernews.com/security/billions-passwords-credentials-leaked-mother-of-all-breaches/
just a heads up to change all your passwords in case anyone missed this shit

[warped wren]

Jesus god almighty

EIGHTY mirrors, solo farmed

[elfin stream]

pssht you can make way more than that in 1.5 months, just work a job and hop on tft

;P

[warped wren]

[copper pawn]

Haha I was banned from d4 discord for ... RMT lol, what a reason

[sand wigeon]

I mean. Did you RMT?

[copper pawn]

In a season where I quit after half a day playing?

I sent the appeal already, will see how 🤔

RMT in d4 lol, in a game where bis gears are literally raining down on you like d3

[sand wigeon]

I mean. People also RMT’d in D3.

[copper pawn]

Well, rest assure, I've never engaged in any RMT, in any game, in my life

Even poe I play ssf now

[sand wigeon]

Okay

[copper pawn]

Provided though, I did talk shit about the season, using polite words of course

[warped wren]

how

why

for what

[keen jasper]

account selling probably

[warped wren]

bruh

people have more money than brains for real

[stable shore]

it was mostly early on in the game i think

[keen jasper]

if you have more money than time and want a max level fully geared character, it makes sense.

not that it's ToS compliant or a good idea

[stable shore]

like, there was a mace that was like HH rarity with gg rolls

and it sold for several thousands dollars

[warped wren]

[stable shore]

but nowadays it's worthless

see it like kaom heart or shavrone of poe, it's pretty much the same

powercreep just made the mace irrelevant

was the thing in question

iirc it was 40B gold and sold for 12k usd

[sand wigeon]

There was a built in RMT auction house for a while lol

[warped wren]

good god

why do people still give Blizzard their money

[sand wigeon]

I mean it went between players

I don’t think Blizzard even got a cut?

[warped wren]

meant the auction house

[sand wigeon]

Not sure on that though

Yeah that’s what I’m talking about

[warped wren]

and then the lols of D4

[sand wigeon]

I can’t speak there, I like D4

[warped wren]

sorry, to be more precise: why give Blizzard money when they're incompetent enough to design a blatantly abusable system

and iirc they stood behind it for a while

[sand wigeon]

They just tried something different

[stable shore]

sunk cost fallacy

mostly

and nostalgia

[warped wren]

although being real, I think their stash tab "system" is by far the biggest proof of incompetency I have ever seen

like for a game with, what, 2k active developers at various levels?

[sand wigeon]

I don’t think I understand

In D3?

[warped wren]

no no, D4

[sand wigeon]

(Or just liking their products)

[warped wren]

sorry I jumped topic a bit

[sand wigeon]

I don’t think I had an issue with my stash in D4 but I also don’t really remember the stashes in D4

I don’t think I used them

[solar tiger]

they did

[sand wigeon]

Understandable

[solemn harness]

D4 is like, the exact opposite of LE; the combat is rock-solid and feels beefy, but the systems behind it and the developers working on it are just.. kinda bad? LE combat needs a lot of work and is annoyingly floaty, but the systems behind it and the devs working on it are a 10/10 IMO. I can see the pros/cons of both, and I'm looking forward to an ARPG successfully combining both "positives" into one product.

[stable shore]

right, i forgot some people still do

[keen jasper]

well, I hardly think they'd do it if they didn't get money

[stable shore]

tbh d4 isn't bad i think

their few previous games were kinda dogshit though

[sand wigeon]

I got my money’s worth, I had fun

[keen jasper]

for all the flak that people give blizzard, there are still people working there who know what they're doing

[stable shore]

d4 is kinda the first good game they made in a while imo

[sand wigeon]

I liked D3

[keen jasper]

and their games are, at the very least, playable and enjoyable for at least a little bit

they might not measure up to the heights of some of the games they made in the past, but I think overall, that's a pretty rough bar to clear

since other people have since taken those ideas and run with them.

[sand wigeon]

I will preface though that I only play story, I don’t do ARPG endgame

[stable shore]

i forgot the timeline, OW was after d3 and HS related stuff right ?

[sand wigeon]

Yeah

[solemn harness]

Honestly I still prefer D3 over D4, simply because it's a finished product; the game is simple but there isn't anything "missing" -- not really, anyway. D4 feels like a tech alpha proof of concept in a lot of areas, still.

[sand wigeon]

OW1 came out in 2015 iirc

[stable shore]

i think after OW there was really nothing that good until d4

[warped wren]

the only reason I wish people stopped paying for obviously bad, poorly designed, cash-grab games is so the industry stops sinking lower in how okay it is to milk us as players

I know bad and design are subjective

[stable shore]

maybe d2 ressurected was good ? i didn't look into it but it's a remake so it doesn't count

[warped wren]

but when a company that has spent millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of manhours is unable to implement basic features that have existed in other games for a literal decade

that's kinda inexcusable to me

[keen jasper]

D2 was, and arguably still is, an iconic pillar of the ARPG genre. But it's been years. Other people have iterated on its formula better than Blizzard has. We have Grim Dawn, Torchlight, and of course, Last Epoch. All have experimented and tried things while Blizzard was just... not doing that much.

[stable shore]

W3 reforged was worse than the old one, DI ... i doubt i need to expand on it, OW 2 was just stupid from begining to end

[sand wigeon]

There was Immortal and Overwatch 2, so…

I’d have to agree

[stable shore]

yeah, OW 2 on paper could have been huge

but they just absolutely fucked up

it was a graphic update and nothing more

[keen jasper]

Overwatch 2's whole situation was kinda sad

[sand wigeon]

I mean Blizzard is doing a lot, they’re just making games primarily for the casual player, and most ARPG players are not casual

[stable shore]

it screw over so many OW 1 players too

mostly on mtx i believe ?

[keen jasper]

they stalled development on OW1 for years to make OW2 and didn't even finish enough of it to make the sequel properly

[stable shore]

yeah, they originaly planned to make a pve mod

that WAS the reason for OW 2 existence

[sand wigeon]

And I’ma be honest, the change to 5v5 was awfully implemented. It’s what most of the pros wanted but it did not happen in the way they wanted

[stable shore]

then they just gave up and it lost all its meaning

[solemn harness]

Diablo Immortal honestly wasn't bad, it's a very solid mobile game (way better than 99.9% of the other crap I've tried on my phone); it just has mountains of P2W garbage which ruins it entirely.

[warped wren]

the problem with the whole "casual player" pandering is that you keep feeding them shittier slop bit by bit and they keep lapping it up

[stable shore]

yeeeeah especially consdering what was the meta before it ... it was hard to mess it up

[sand wigeon]

Yeah Deias has said it’s pretty okay now

[keen jasper]

they finished so little they had to release it piecemeal and it's just... really unfortunate. there was a possibility for OW2 to be the shot in the arm the game needed and really bring it back to life, but instead they fumbled it entirely and now it's... well, honestly? It's not doing that bad.

[warped wren]

and that screws it over for EVERYONE because while a casual player is not invested in gaming as a hobby, others are

[sand wigeon]

I mean D4 was a huge step up from D3 as a casual player

[stable shore]

but like, that's why i called nostalgia and sunk cost fallacy for blizzard fanboys

yes d4 was good, but that's all they did for years

[keen jasper]

17k players on Steam isn't terrible...

but Blizzard is a AAA studio, and OW2 cost a lot of money to make

[stable shore]

if you simply considered their recent release, there was near 0% chance d4 would end up even decent

[sand wigeon]

I can’t agree

[warped wren]

frankly I cannot say either way because I'm decidedly not a casual player. I just know of no single positive impact D4 brought to gaming other than getting some extra eyeballs

and I can think of PLENTY of negative impacts

[solemn harness]

95%+ of people playing OW2 are using blizzard's launcher and not going through steam tbh

[sand wigeon]

It had really awesome cinematic moments, great side quest writing and S-tier voice acting

I loved it

[sand wigeon]

This too

[twilit mountain]

Sub 400 total credited devs on D4. Total. That means ever touched it.

[sand wigeon]

IDK a single person who plays OW on Steam ngl

[warped wren]

I am certain I read a 2k number somewhere. Was that the total team size? Art included?

idk will have to re-check

[solemn harness]

I remember the number you're talking about, that was them crediting like, the entire fucking company (blizzard) for having literally anything to do with D4 not actually working on it directly

[twilit mountain]

It has 9k+ people who "worked on it"
Number is vastly overblown because of management, art, VA, etc etc.

What Lothrik said

[solemn harness]

ie: you get your co-worker that works on overwatch to test something in diablo 4, into the credits they go

[twilit mountain]

They credited way, way more than actually was necessary

[warped wren]

anyhoo, even knocking my number down by 80%, 400 devs managing to fuck over a fairly core system that's been robustly established in other ARPGs for a decade is pretty hilariously incompetent

[sand wigeon]

They should have given me credit, I’m in the game! /s

[warped wren]

ah I see

[sand wigeon]

Complete and utter side note

Why are ice cream sandwiches so great?

[warped wren]

because contrasting flavor and texture

[sand wigeon]

Mmmm

Icecweam uwu

[warped wren]

🤌

[twilit mountain]

I don't like them much

The sandwich part feels bad, just give me a cone

[sand wigeon]

You don’t like anything good

[twilit mountain]

Not true. I like materva.

[sand wigeon]

Is that a latino thing?

[twilit mountain]

Yes

[sand wigeon]

I cannot speak of it then

(IDK what it is)

[twilit mountain]

It's a soft drink that originally started in Cuba. It's made from yerba mate.

[sand wigeon]

Yeah I can’t speak on the core like, itemization. I didn’t ever need to go SUPER in-depth with it.

[twilit mountain]

Aspect system: cool, I like.
Uniques: vary a little but most are pretty cool. I like.
Rares: Passable, but not good.

[sand wigeon]

Okay but hear me out

Shiny :D

[daring shore]

yes

4 stash tabs

with no way to get more

oh wait they did that survey where stash space a basic game function that should have been in the game since the beginning is going to be sold

gotta pay blizz 100 dollars for a problem of their own creation

whose solution should have been in the game 5 seasons ago when the game was in alpha

with no textures

[keen jasper]

it really makes me wonder how decisions like that happen

because I can't imagine that once you have a stash system up and running that letting players have more tabs is difficult from a technical standpoint

coding a "give extra stash tab" button is probably not something that takes months to do (I wouldn't know, I'm not in gamedev) and extra stash spaces are basically standard in every ARPG I've ever played

so the idea that they'd launch with four tabs with no option to buy more seems like either a massive oversight (that they chose not to correct later for some reason?) or a deliberate decision

but if they intended to monetize it all along then why would they wait to implement it

[twilit mountain]

FINALLY

[keen jasper]

That doesn't look like leather

That looks like bone

I don't think I need an identify scroll to know that those are skulls

[daring shore]

as a player and as a feature that is as core as a stash tab- not to mention what games in their own genre doing

i dont care

i dont care about the background

how much code it takes

i want the stash tab

and rightly so

other ones can manage

why cant Diablo 4

i do not care that they are loading in everyone's stash tabs

dont

fix this shit

somehow

i dont care how

[daring shore]

GZ

[twilit mountain]

[copper pawn]

Imagine poe2 but without unid item, the loot filter will be much better that way

[daring shore]

well its a "uniq" right- its a uniq in both function and visual

[opal flower]

I don't even use the stash in D4

[warped wren]

average new player experience

lmfao

(he was commenting on a post where this guy got INSANELY lucky corrupting a mirror synth quiver with +1 arrows on top, and also explained the crafting process)

[copper pawn]

Poe bad

[simple needle]

"anyone looking forward to TF2 instead of POE 2 " Gigachad

[daring shore]

Yes

GGG literally does nothing to explain the game and help new players

if it wasnt for ziziran new people would eat shit

Path is horrid on the first time player exprience front

[keen jasper]

which tf2 are you talking about

[daring shore]

probably Team Fortress 2

that game refuses to die

[waxen sonnet]

I assume he means tq2

And in that case, porque no los dos

[copper pawn]

After more than 1 month playing, today for the 1st time I realize I can't see my % spell damage or fire damage anywhere, or do I miss something?

[daring shore]

You are right that information does not exist in the game

Go pob

[copper pawn]

fixing season the d4 way: we have fixed the season by making seasonal mechanics irrelevant, and even more surprising, it actually works

[eternal sky]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1911610/Windblown/

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deadcells makers are making new game

[waxen sonnet]

oh snap

hells yes

[keen jasper]

oh yeah I saw this, looks pretty sick

[waxen sonnet]

i love the art style holy shit

[eternal sky]

ye its a game to look forward to

[shadow sundial]

i just had a map so bad (2k wisps total) that i actually opened a portal and went back to my hideout to go do the next one. i reconsidered because i'm grinding out conqueror maps for my last achievement this league

and then it comes through for me, out of gratitude maybe?

@twilit mountain that's 1HH, 2MB, 4 MoK now

[twilit mountain]

Meanwhile the game has given me exactly one good T0 unique despite 5 T0 drops

[shadow sundial]

and yet you probably still havent offered any Beltshrines up as sacrifice to Our Lord and Savior Rngeezus

tsk, tsk

and i cannot emphasize this enough: ...tsk

[twilit mountain]

It's fine. At some point I'll sell off my Chief gear and just make a Penance. Maybe.

[warped wren]

I got 38 challenges and I'm a smidge off from 40/40 but I cba to log back in and finish them off

[shadow sundial]

sigh

im just running my usual MF strat, but on conq maps

i prob should just speedrun white ones with my trapper and just finish this

[warped wren]

I did some Formed rotas for that

made some easy money off it

[shadow sundial]

i dont even care about the cost of doing it solo. im sitting on like 6 mirrors (4 raw) atm

[opal flower]

https://tenor.com/view/49ers-frisco-bang-bang-9ers-brock-purdy-gif-2530415459325635446

[burnt bane]

Ya I love Black Company. I’m on Malazan 4 @warped wren

[lethal bane]

I liled book 1 of the Black Company

[warped wren]

The 4th book is a pretty different experience

I think it was Erikson's smackdown to some critic who said that he can't write a single character to save his life

So he wrote half a book as a single character

[lethal bane]

Lmfao

[burnt bane]

I feel like Erickson is subtle characterization

[warped wren]

And arguably one of the best characters in the whole series

[lethal bane]

How is the series stylistically?-

[burnt bane]

It’s like how can he supposedly write bad characters when Lorn has been living rent free in my mind for a year now.

[warped wren]

High fantasy, very philosophical and brutal

[lethal bane]

I hear that its philosophical

[warped wren]

Prepare to read some awful truths presented in visceral ways

[burnt bane]

It’s a really rough read in my opinion but enjoyable

[lethal bane]

Any specific systems they go through?

[burnt bane]

I’d encourage you to read more Black Company 👀

[warped wren]

Well from what I've seen there is nihilism, elements of Kant, stoicism for sure

But I'm far from an expert

[lethal bane]

I do read a lot of philosophy on my own time. Largely theology, Marxists, and so on

[warped wren]

And it's all presented from different, often clashing viewpoints

[lethal bane]

Kant but as a wizard

[warped wren]

Not wrong actually

[lethal bane]

LMFAO

If that's the case then I'm fucking sold bro

[warped wren]

[lethal bane]

That's all you gotta tell me

[warped wren]

One of the absolute BEST philosophical characters in the series is a slave

Like holy hell

His dialogue is insane

[lethal bane]

That's a very classic styling

[warped wren]

Because he's probably the most powerless and downtrodden character

[burnt bane]

What book do we meet him?

[warped wren]

Uhh 5th

[burnt bane]

Oo nice

Did you listen to audiobook?

[warped wren]

Also one thing Erikson nails is the conflict between inner monologue and a person's actions

[warped wren]

No

[burnt bane]

That’s one of the things I always say is the best thing about the series

People think one thing and do another

It’s so realistic

https://youtu.be/2TZO83wH_Xc

This is the video that got me to read it

[warped wren]

I make sure I read the entire series and accompanying series cover to cover once every few years

Last year was a re-read year

Just wrapping up Esselmont's books now

[burnt bane]

Very nice. It’s the first read for me.

[lethal bane]

I'm considering rereading Gene Wolfe's Soldier series

Takes place during the Greco-Persian war following a fellow called Latro

[warped wren]

That sounds interesting

Is it myth or historical drama?

[lethal bane]

He can't remember anything due to a head injury so you're reading his journals

Historical fantasy

[warped wren]

I always love amnesia mechanics

[lethal bane]

Wolfe was a big Thomist so you'll see hints of St Aquinas in there

[warped wren]

A good author does so much with them

[burnt bane]

I love Wolfe

[lethal bane]

He does a ton!

[radiant tulip]

what book series

[lethal bane]

Its my favorite series of his

[burnt bane]

Book of the New Sun was my all time favorite for like 10 years

[lethal bane]

Have you read Peace?

[burnt bane]

No

[warped wren]

Malazan Book of the Fallen

[burnt bane]

Only New Sun and Long Sun

[lethal bane]

Its good. Its a singular book and distills his ideas a lot on memory

[burnt bane]

I should check it out

I always regret never writing a fan letter to Wolfe

His books had such an impact on me. I’d always go back to them.

[warped wren]

Which Gene Wolfe book do I start with?

[burnt bane]

Shadow and Claw

Shadow & Claw (The Book of the New Sun, 1) https://a.co/d/av7oLHr

[lethal bane]

I'll come back and ramble on Wolfe soon

[burnt bane]

I’m so glad to have met you guys. I love books like these :)

[lethal bane]

I like my philosophy, I like my sword n sorcery

Gene Wolfe likes both too so I'm a sucker

[burnt bane]

Me too

I really loved Black Company too

[warped wren]

I think I read maybe two or three Black Company books

But it's been a long time, barely remember it now

[turbid trail]

Malazan Book of the Fallen is my favorite fantasy series, finished my 3rd reread like week ago

Its soo good

[warped wren]

the best part to me is that it rewards you for reading mindfully and deeply

[turbid trail]

Yea, you can notice a lot of new things when you read it again

And characters feels like real people with their own lives and stories

They are not there just to be there, there is always a reason why they are where they are\

And all of the plot twists in the story are so well made

And nothing is black and white. Its hard to say who is the bad one in the story, and even if you can you understand reasons why they are doing their things

Besides assail, fuck assail

[warped wren]

yeah fuck those dickbags

[warped wren]

I mean, I think some characters exist just for the hell of it, but Esselmont is a lot more guilty of that than Erikson

frankly I HATE the way he wrote Kiska, to me it just felt like a crime

[turbid trail]

Honestly I don't even remember her

[warped wren]

he's honestly a mid writer when it comes to characterization, but his pacing is better

[turbid trail]

But I mostly remember main series, haven't read most of other books

Which novels are the best (I will read them first)?

[warped wren]

in the main series?

or Esselmont's?

main I personally love 9th, 3rd, and 2nd as my top 3

Esselmont's I think Return of the Crimson Guard and probably Assail are the best

his three prequels on Kellanved and Dancer's rise are, like, okay. Good for the story

[turbid trail]

Will check Crimson guard and Assail then

[burnt bane]

Ever plan to retry Black Company?

Malazan 4 is feeling a bit slower to me

[warped wren]

Maybe, yeah

[warped wren]

It is slower, that's true. But it's a setup for some big shit that goes down later

[humble moth]

wtf u here?

[burnt bane]

Nice. Ya I’m excited to get to later books.

[young carbon]

i was surprised how much i loved 5 actually

(4 was also pog)

i didnt think it could get bettter than 3 lmao

ive just finished 5 now 😩

[hidden zodiac]

"But it's a setup for some big shit that goes down later" the entire series is like that lol

[warped wren]

true

[sand wigeon]

@proven hare i think i'd personally go for d4 over LE

[proven hare]

ive had that primal guy blocked before idk how he is seeing my msgs

[waxen sonnet]

lol you blocked me

you suck at it apparently

[lethal bane]

Blocks are one way

[candid sage]

tbh its mostly a troll question, esp with how you phrased it with hahahahaha afterwards. so, you got a mostly troll response. if you werent trying to troll, apologies

d4 is just easier/less complex than LE, in a nutshell

[proven hare]

for that exact reason hes an antagonizer

[lethal bane]

Its been talked about and beaten to a pulp

I love a good meme but it's a dead convo

[warped wren]

there should be a bot command for that question

you go $leord4 and the bot tells you "Stop flogging a dead horse"

then you go $poeorle and the bot tells you "STOP FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE"

[sand wigeon]

they're a troll it's fine

[placid yarrow]

Guys is there hope?

https://youtu.be/RskRFwgoQ5g?t=6711

[waxen sonnet]

oh SHIT name dropped!

[formal belfry]

thank you last epoch for lighting a fire under their butts for once

[simple needle]

Damnn POE devs praising what is good and is holding themselves accountable for improvement

[warped wren]

Part of why PoE keeps rising

Devs take their jobs, and their feedback, seriously

I hate certain aspects of it and disagree heavily with dev ideas on certain things, but never have I ever had occasion to say that they don't listen to feedback

[copper pawn]

even d4 dev listen to players' feedbacks

they just don't act on what they hear

or hear 1 thing and do another thing

[daring shore]

instant buy out trading in path 2

that shit is years away

that does not fucking help us

fuckers

do this shit

where it matters

in path 1

[copper pawn]

Imagine if this shit really happens

[junior oyster]

It helps tft though. They live a little longer.

[wooden wing]

@uncut tiger #💬┃general message stat selectable gear u can get from lots of different sources and they ALL include harrier stats for ex u can get it by doing PVP if u wanted lol. plus u have crafted options that are better. also u have legendary armor which is stat selectable and its account wide.

[warped wren]

The beta is literally this year Froxy

[elfin stream]

the closed beta

poe2 could be next year or in 5 years

[daring shore]

and when this was a thing

4 years ago

if a beta is the best you can do in 4 years

thats not very good

god knows when this shit is going to release

as torgor said

its not even an open beta

at that

[warped wren]

The 3.0 launch didn't take long from closed beta to full launch

Iirc it was like 6 months at most

[eternal sky]

Beta this year means open beta basicly

Psure you get into it if youve swept 500$ to ggg

[copper pawn]

Thank god things like t4 aisling will become an item instead of playing puzzle with mechanics

And auction house is basically ggg's middle finger against tft right?

[formal belfry]

i dont think they would have done anything to trading if last epoch didnt do it first

they've let tft go off since the beginning

[near hedge]

so blizzards new ceo is a galaxy brain move

[dawn rapids]

have i zoned into another chat region? never seen pink icons lol?

[daring shore]

they sure did but kept it on a leash

if something happened owners would get banned

for a couple days

they got the newspaper and then it was business as usual

[twilit mountain]

@warped wren I swear to god loot is seeded, there is no fucking way I have spent this much time in high juice maps and make like 10% of what others do on the same strats. I even dragged people along wth me to see and they went "what the fuck? Where is your loot?"

[warped wren]

this is going to sound silly but did you check your filter

[twilit mountain]

Yeah

[stable shore]

i actually can't meet you there, my raid started

[twilit mountain]

In fact I have retuned it multiple times

[warped wren]

how many scarab bombs have you seen

[twilit mountain]

And when I say I dragged people along I mean I literally physically partied with them and took them into maps with me

[twilit mountain]

Maybe like 2 per 10 maps, it's stupid

[warped wren]

so clearly it's working

because scarab bombs are actually kinda rare-ish

bunch of stuff needs to align for it to happen

[twilit mountain]

It's just my raw drops are so dramatically behind others

[warped wren]

how many sacred orbs did you get?

[twilit mountain]

I've dropped I think 10 this league across all that playtime.

Now mind you I only spent 6 hours leveling

[warped wren]

so it's not impossible that you haven't seen a mirror drop, I'd say it's just on the moderately unlucky side of things

but not seeing a single good T0, THAT'S unlucky af

[twilit mountain]

I have seen one

I got a HH

A few days ago

[warped wren]

especially because if you're Primalist, you'd be seeing purple and yellow juice more often

[twilit mountain]

After god knows how many maps

[warped wren]

ah

[twilit mountain]

Everybody I talk to already has multiple

[warped wren]

yeah I kinda logged off after 38/40

it's become monopoly money at this point so it's whatever

[twilit mountain]

Divs are at 160 and dropping still somehow

[warped wren]

hypothesis is because people stopped picking up chaos stacks

but were still using them

[twilit mountain]

I guess that makes sense

[stable shore]

it's femboy boss time

wish me luck on the drops, i need the body armour to finally be bis

[warped wren]

why are there disco holograms everywhere

[stable shore]

markers

[waxen sonnet]

Because FFXIV

[warped wren]

ah

never did understand Japanese games

randomly saw some Yakuza gameplay the other day and it was the most surreal and unhinged thing I've seen

[stable shore]

you don't need them most of the time

but people are dogshit at the game

and need them or they can't play

[waxen sonnet]

I was just joking 🙂

[twilit mountain]

That's just Yakuza tbh

[stable shore]

yeeeah

yakuza is very special

[waxen sonnet]

It's like Japanese saints row

Or saints row is like Yakuza idfk lol

[stable shore]

less trash-y than saints row but it's the same spirit

[stable shore]

i got lucky, dropped the body armour and i'm bis now

[twilit mountain]

Faucheur

[stable shore]

not too bad sounding although the english version is cooler

[near hedge]

and they said it couldnt be done

[stable shore]

right lmao

been a while since i started but i would say i easily got it done before dawntrail

but on that one it's mostly thanks to the relic weapon, otherwise i would have needed p12s

rn i'm gearing up a samurai

every reaper acsessories are bis for it so that's something

[near hedge]

did you pentameld everything as well?

[stable shore]

can't pentameld raid gear

only the non upgraded crafted one

[near hedge]

oh really

[stable shore]

yeah apparently

[near hedge]

well thats weird

[stable shore]

is it ?

[near hedge]

idk just always assumed you could pentameld everything

[simple needle]

@stable shore drip check

[stable shore]

hairs and lipstick are a bit too glowy imo, but maybe it's just lightning doing that

aside of that it's solid

[simple needle]

theres no emo makeup sad

theres also reze from chainsaw manm

[near hedge]

how much better is that game than 7?

[junior oyster]

Oooh I'm liking that it has the kung fu panda

[placid yarrow]

Guys I accidentally dodged three times on the same day and now I can't play league for 12 hours help I'm so bored

[vagrant topaz]

"accidentally"

[junior oyster]

Dodgy

[vagrant topaz]

Did you sneeze and click at the same time?

[junior oyster]

I dunno what he means by dodged. Is it not normal to dodge?

[vagrant topaz]

No it's not. You dodge when you are in queue and you don't want to play the game, because you don't like your team /'think you won't win.

You close the client, it cancel the lobby and put everyone (9others players) back into the queue

[placid yarrow]

Well i didn't dodge accidently, i accidently dodged 3 times not realizing i had done it twice that day already lul

honestly i don't mind people dodging as long as they're not abusing hacks, you dodge you wait out the timer, all is good

but i would've played the game if i had remembered i was on my third dodge

[vagrant topaz]

Maybe someone can help me.
Yesterday I went to bed, my 2 screens were working fine . One is on a Displayport, one on a HDMI. This morning it seems the DisplayPort is not working anymore.

Is there another explanation then just hardware issue ? (cable or plug)

[placid yarrow]

mmm is the displayport connected through an adapter or is it just a DP to DP cable into the pc

[vagrant topaz]

DP to DP

[placid yarrow]

have you tried restarting everything?

including monitors

sometimes it just doesn't recognize the monitor, think it's a windows thing, usually stops happening after a while but windows do be windowsing

[vagrant topaz]

It will try that

[placid yarrow]

like when i first did my setup my main monitor would always fuck up and not connect or whatever, usually a restart or two would fix it

sometimes restarting once wasn't enough

but now it hasn't done it for a long time

my hdmi monitor has never had issues though

so might be a DP thing with windows

[vagrant topaz]

Did not change anything

Weird

When I try to detect the second monitor, the monitor turn on. But then it says "No signal"

And if I am only with the DP it doesnt work either

Well, back to 1 monitor I guess

[uncut tiger]

It's not even Japanese games in this case, 14 is a wow clone and copied these from wow too.

[uncut tiger]

Time to click that dota2 icon friend

[placid yarrow]

man i tried

i played lich

[simple needle]

If you like tk7 then you will like it 10x if you hate tk7 than Tekken isn't for you ever

[copper pawn]

interesting, it seems they did some changes to lab, so that even the easiest lab will guarantee an option to give trans gem, early season must be merc lab and above to have good chance to have the option

[desert jasper]

That has always been an option in the easiest lab since the patch the new gems came out

[copper pawn]

is it? like the whole 1st month of season I asked all people and they said must do merc and above

[desert jasper]

I did lab on day one
like 10+ times for shits & giggles
and it was there always

Before the season started people were saying it's only a thing in merc & above because of the patch notes saying that it's "Eternal Labyrinth"
but in the reveal stream they had stated that they want it to be available early & it's starting in first lab

And they did fix the patch notes quite fast to show the real thing

[copper pawn]

ah I see, interesting

[desert jasper]

So it was largely just people either: not checking the patch notes, not listening to the stream
or not even trying to check the enchant altar in earlier labs because "there's nothing worth it anyway"

[copper pawn]

didn't figure out earlier, until now when I farm trans gem seriously

[desert jasper]

But tbh the first lab one isn't as good as the later ones
Somehow I did manage to get the one I wanted on first try though

[copper pawn]

I do the 1st lab coz it's just fast

[desert jasper]

Wanted ranged anime weapon and got it and even managed to get it to 20% quality in 4 runs of the normal lab

Too bad the AI on ranged AW was horrible
like they wouldn't move in range for enemy

So they'd just try firing at a door sometimes etc

[copper pawn]

yeah I tried that early on in the season, it was shit, shit just won't work without convocation

[desert jasper]

Even with convocation it was a bit... eh

Should've just went with normal animate weapon tbh
and then make the switch way later in league
or go with SRS and then swap later

[copper pawn]

my biggest mistake was to swap from srs to animate weapon, before swapping once more to bama

I thought it would be better qol than srs coz the summons live longer, I was bloody wrong

man, what's the chance of not getting the trans gem you want after 20 runs 😭

[urban cypress]

PoE is taking notes from Last Epoch devs. Go LE devs, you're coming in hot and landscaping the ARPG scene🔥

[keen jasper]

love to see it

[near hedge]

thanks. i'll check the game out then

[turbid trail]

I'm 50 runs deep, still no penance brand I need

[lapis summit]

For anyone around, what kind of content do people want to see from Last Epoch creators? Ive wanted to jump into content crestion and im enjoying the game immensely, so i wanted to poke around and see if anyone had any suggestions

[daring shore]

well due to the nature of the game

it being an arpg

your options are somewhat limited

your options are- build guide- boss guide or build showcase

[lapis summit]

Yeah figured that, just wanted to try to be taco bell and think outside the bun

[copper pawn]

I finally figure out why they advise to run merc lab and above

while earlier lab gives trans gem option 3 choose 1 of the same colors, merc lab and above has a chance to have option to make trans version of that same gem

[faint mauve]

should still be better running a good uber lab if you got offerings id think

if you havent quality-ed your gems yet

[copper pawn]

Too bad no offering dropping yet
I got almost 20 different trans gems already, still not getting what I want

[faint mauve]

should not be hard dropping them with some atlas investment early game

anyone doing gauntlet tomorrow? should be a good one

[twilit mountain]

I never play gauntlet. Or any of the events, really.

[faint mauve]

im out of practice in normal poe but should be fun still. at least its gonna be very difficult

ill be happy reaching a high level and doing all except ubers at worst

[copper pawn]

not a fan of artificially tougher content in any game, same reason I'll never play masochist in LE

real life is challenging enough, don't want to suffer even more in virtual enjoyment

[faint mauve]

i wouldnt say its artificially tough at all but i do like competing to a degree

[twilit mountain]

Oh I'm just lazy. Don't wanna league start multiple times per league time-frame

[faint mauve]

in my younger days i was pro and played in south korea and the USA

you can still mitigate the risk in the gauntlet , after all map sustain is free in normal poe without needing to juice

[twilit mountain]

I also would not call gauntlet artificial, they do make you approach the game differently. As opposed to like, master raids/dungeons in Destiny where the primary thing is just higher numbers and really that's it.

[faint mauve]

and also testing your preparation against it

im just gonna use my ruthless build and make some skill adjustments

[copper pawn]

I guess quite some people play the game for the challenge, especially when playing normally offers less and less fun

[faint mauve]

yah , im not taking the gauntlet too seriously since im more invested in ruthless

i wouldnt draft a preplan or anything like i did this league

ive read d4 will have some sorta ranking but its based on one single activity not the entire season

[copper pawn]

incidentally, it's called gauntlet too

[faint mauve]

yeah its abit too simple

[copper pawn]

I prefer the old d2 leaderboard, aka race to 100

[faint mauve]

yah thats where i come from

[copper pawn]

at this point d4 gauntlet is just like a glorified challenge rift from d3

[faint mauve]

i was on 1st page 99 hc assassin in d2r season 2 last time i played d2 lol

poe ladder can be cheesed, but ssf/hcssf/ruthless is good

[copper pawn]

darn it, 32 red trans gems, I got 21 already, still haven't got what I want

[junior oyster]

Welcome to rng

[eternal sky]

[eternal sky]

@ember lake ^

[gentle flume]

anybody have some music genre suggestion for farming monos?

xXD

[vagrant topaz]

Lofi Girl

[eternal sky]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2UEXRIn2kKNQ89cLTGElhI?si=ccb1eaeba6f94ada

[waxen sonnet]

Electroswing

[eternal sky]

maidcore

https://open.spotify.com/track/0MRLn08uSG4PfvfyRt0xap?si=31094260df474b92

[gentle flume]

ty

[waxen sonnet]

Fellow person of taste 🙂

[shadow sundial]

before i roll over this and keep trying, is there an INT stacking build that'd buy this for a mirror+ this league? i bought the base for 350d so i could try again on a new base if this'd sell. working on a KB trickster gear set for myself

(obviously i'd divine it first before selling)

not sure if anything wants the phys-as-extra-cold

[stable shore]

i don't think it would

for a mirror service you get a 4 t1 one

plus that phys mod is kinda ass afaik

int stacker stack lightning flat, so it doesn't do much

more of a 2 mods ammy than anything imo

[shadow sundial]

yeah, figured. just wasnt sure if there was a build where the 30% extra cold was better than the 2% Dmg Per 15INT

[warped wren]

how the HELL did you get a Simplex for 350

who was the idiot who sold it for that much?

oh wait they've actually dropped in price

huh

damn things were at 0.6-0.7 at one point

[shadow sundial]

they were 0.4mir for most of em but i saw one at 0.3, but it sold before i could sell one of my mirrors to replenish divs. so i set a live search for 0.3mir and got the next one

first mirror i've ever sold (first league where i've gotten one). korean guy messages me for it. trying to explain the concept of collateral through a language barrier is tough 😛

[warped wren]

thankfully I sold mine via a community Discord

so we were gucci

but on TFT you can typically use shards / locks / MB etc. for collateral

[shadow sundial]

i gave him my MB, Kalandra ring, and my 8link helm i crafted. it was the best i could do

[rugged island]

????????????

[warped wren]

is this me

[shadow sundial]

also, i assume there isnt much price fixing going on for mirrors, right? the lowest were around 1140d, i posted mine for 1135, it sold within minutes. not sure if the "true" price is higher but w/e

[warped wren]

not super aware really. TFT listings are 1180

[shadow sundial]

poestack said 1800 and i was like "uh no wtf"

[warped wren]

definitely not 1800

[shadow sundial]

even when the annul hits, the exalt never does. send me your energy ❤️

[rugged island]

i dont know what half that does but it looks good

sometimes looking good is all you need

[shadow sundial]

i rolled dex and %att on some annul/exalts, and kind of gave up and went to do the lock+harvest reforge

[mental talon]

[shadow sundial]

and for the first time it fucking hit the dmg per int

ON THE WRONG SUFFIXES

[mental talon]

Whekp

*whelp

[shadow sundial]

i've been essence spamming for 3.5 hours now

[mental talon]

You'll get there

Take my energy (or my essences if you want)

[shadow sundial]

very next essence after this debacle (and annul hit too)

~1% chance for the exalt to hit though

imma need extra energy for this one

[mental talon]

Any locks?

[shadow sundial]

they arent worth it for this method

[mental talon]

Fair

[shadow sundial]

better to just spam for suffixes and then harvest reforge influenced for the prefix

[mental talon]

Well I'm working out so you can only have 50% of my energy

[shadow sundial]

if locks were like 15-20d then maybe it'd be worth it on the harvest step

jesus christ NEXT essence hit this too

[mental talon]

I wish I had some to give you

[shadow sundial]

i am stopping here out of exhaustion

i may decide to pick this up again later

[mental talon]

Share the results when you do

I'm excited for your hopeful triumph

[shadow sundial]

i was looking up gear for the KB-Frag trickster and a bunch of people were wearing the same mirrored chest. i decided to start from a bare base and do it myself. went through all the steps, including fracturing, and made it myself for 296div investment. mine is T2 spell suppression but otherwise basically the same as that mirror service one 🙂

i kept a log of my steps and my costs

after i hit the sweet enchantment really early, i had big plans to split it and sell off the one that didnt end up with the fracture on it. and thats when i found out that you cant split enchanted items

it was my first really big craft (done a bunch of 30-50d ones before)

i'm 570d deep into that amulet above (350 of that just for the base)

[kindred basin]

@chrome pike If you havent seen it

[chrome pike]

Yeah that’s dope af

[kindred basin]

when looking for this video, i discovered a 2nd one got announced

so thats hype

[solar tiger]

Nice

I would do random starting things challenge after I unlocked everything

[warped wren]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1agvirk/rank_1_delve_showcase_penance_brand_pathfinder/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

God gamer

35 mirror build with 1 billion DPS and the nearly half a million max hit

[near hedge]

wtf am i even looking at

[warped wren]

Peak PoE

35 mirrors is pretty inzane, even in Inflation League

[near hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-stupid-smooth-brain-idiot-gif-20901280

me right now

[warped wren]

Pretty sure he's being conservative too, like that TWWT is one of a kind

What's truly wild is it's not even the most expensive build I've seen this league

But it is for sure probably the strongest

[twilit mountain]

[copper pawn]

lol 32 wtf

4 is from level 21 awakened empower?

[turbid trail]

I assume its awa void manip + empower 4

[copper pawn]

man, I hate trans gem farming

shit should be made droppable from random mob, if not straight away sold by gem vendor

[daring shore]

that would be ass

and if its sold by vendor why would you ever use the normal ones

i dont like lab

i was very open about this subject

but trans gems actually give you a reason to do labs

considering GGG wants people to do it i would say its a good thing

[twilit mountain]

Emp 4 + awakened void manip + 21 base + a +2 chest + a +2 wand

[copper pawn]

forcing people to do a bad content is never good

[twilit mountain]

Lab isn't bad imo

[copper pawn]

worse than heist, which is already bad enough imo

[twilit mountain]

Hard disagree

Heist is the worst. Period.

[daring shore]

i never said if its good or not

[twilit mountain]

Lab is fine. It isn't great. I would still rather do that than literally half the mechanics in the game.

[daring shore]

the fact is it gives people a reason to do lab

and i assume that was GGG's intention

[copper pawn]

lab gives you some godlike reward?

[daring shore]

i hate lab with a burning passion and i would rather see ascendencies gone than step into lab 4 times each leauge

but still doesnt change the fact that Trans gems actually made Lab worth something

[copper pawn]

I don't exactly mind doing lab, but it's the fact that it's too unrewarding

level 75 monsters mean that base dropping there is borderline useless for crafting

[warped wren]

Also the fact that now lab is worth doing for anyone and you don't need to be a brain dead lab runner mafia goon

[daring shore]

you get the greatest rewards from lab

[warped wren]

Always good to remove mafias

[daring shore]

your ascendency

[copper pawn]

and after finishing ascendancy, what other great reward?

getting the trans gem you want is 100x more difficult than finishing the ascendancy

they should at least make the chance to get the gem you want at least 50% in uber lab and 25% in merc lab for example

for now it's like 1/10 of the said probabilities

[twilit mountain]

Imma be real

That'd be busted as fuck

[copper pawn]

trans gems are not alt quality gems, people need to understand that, most trans gems just change the way the skills work, only very few of them are more powerful than non-trans gems

and for such gems, I agree that the chance to get them should be small

[twilit mountain]

I'm sorry, I don't agree with that. Many of them are better than the normal variant.

[copper pawn]

many as in how many percent?

10%?

[twilit mountain]

So far I've found maybe three that I've gone "eh this sucks"
And I've had a lot of them. I don't even bother planning around base gems now, that's how much better they are in my eyes.

[copper pawn]

I farmed around 22 red trans gems so far, out of 32, and more than 80% of them I find no better than normal gems

[warped wren]

Trans gems are hilariously better than normal in a lot of cases

Which honestly is a good thing

A very good thing

[twilit mountain]

That sounds like a skill issue tbh. All of the slams are fucking outrageous for example.

[copper pawn]

I see, now anti qol is a new philosophy of poe I guess

[twilit mountain]

[copper pawn]

if I were to be in charge, I would unlock all of them at gem vendor after finishing campaign

[twilit mountain]

It's a good thing you aren't

[copper pawn]

or a bad thing

good thing I heard they will make changes next league to make trans gems easier to get, along with many changes that are a bit friendlier toward casual

guess they have received enough negative feedback from forum and poe discord about how bad it is to get trans gem

[waxen sonnet]

I hope that's a lie and they make it harder for casuals to do anything. Whiners all

[copper pawn]

agree, you shouldn't be able to drop any unique item until t16 maps

or any currency chaos and above

[junior oyster]

Bruh you serious?

[junior oyster]

They already did that by giving players the option to go ruthless

[copper pawn]

not ruthless, the main trade league
and I may as well remove gem vendor, all gems are either from quest reward or drop only, so that all casuals will flee from this game

[junior oyster]

I mean you more or less described what I said lol

Main trade league has problems but not current lab

Previous lab was mostly trash except for the lab runners.

Now anyone has incentives to do lab

[elfin stream]

the only ones that suck belong to the skills I like that's why

I can never travel to new zealand because I would commit crimes against whoever made transfigured explosive concoction

in minecraft of course

[copper pawn]

I don't call that incentive lol, real incentive is to buff lab on top of trans gems, for example having higher monster level, and lab can spawn events same as map

put it more accurately, there's a reason to do lab, but there's still no incentive

[twilit mountain]

So you want to bloat lab. Got it.

[faint mauve]

the rewards from lab is the incentive, on ssf its what you need to do

just because a mechanic doesnt shit divines doesnt mean its not worth doing

[copper pawn]

what reward?

[faint mauve]

ruthless and poe2 will double down on making league mechs mostly for the exclusive stuff

you have trans gems, quality up, rerolling skill gems, unique jewels

hcssf ruthless meta right now is to farm lab to get your auras

it also opens up your activities alot more

that its profitable doing abit of everything