📚┃off-topic

[stable shore]

i started a hunt train in ff14

i NEED nuts

i can't explain

[placid yarrow]

Leo I'm curious dm me one you think is ban worthy, but not super obviously so

[lethal bane]

Choo choo

[warped wren]

[placid yarrow]

Alright hold on

I take back what I said I think

[lethal bane]

Leo has some off needs

[stable shore]

i will just leave you with that information

i'll explain later

[warped wren]

more like OF needs iykwim

[warped wren]

"I NEED nuts, I can't explain" - Leo c. 2024

[lethal bane]

Lmfao

Leo needs his protein

[twilit mountain]

Cashews

[waxen sonnet]

"protein"

I might have been the only one who had an encounter but do you guys remember deinxceriis? Or something like that?

[twilit mountain]

I think I recognize the name

[waxen sonnet]

I think they are still around but like six months ago they had it OUT for me. Had a whole dramatic dm thing with me and everything

Hated when I answered any question lol

[placid yarrow]

Lol

[lethal bane]

Lmfao wtf

I never get hate DMs

[placid yarrow]

Now I feel so drama free

Compared to you all

[waxen sonnet]

Oh I get hate dms fairly often haha

[twilit mountain]

I've been DMed slurs multiple times from people in this server

[waxen sonnet]

I miss the days of dark souls 3 salt dms

[lethal bane]

I feel like I'm so much meaner than you guys too

[placid yarrow]

The only dm's I've got was after I posted my dummy dps and people wanted my build planner lol

[waxen sonnet]

Boru your meanness is too smart, no one gets it enough to be mad

[lethal bane]

IDK lol

I get DMs about Steamdeck shit

[waxen sonnet]

I even got bitchy passive aggressive dms from gnasherr lol

[lethal bane]

He never DMd me passive aggressive stuff wow

[twilit mountain]

Dream has a small convo with Sam about his pseudo-intellectual shit

It's comical

[lethal bane]

That was a doozy

[waxen sonnet]

Oh I bet

It always tickles me when obviously stupid people pretend to be smart

[lethal bane]

Me

[waxen sonnet]

You said it, not me 🙂

[twilit mountain]

[placid yarrow]

Gotem

[twilit mountain]

Boru catching strays

[placid yarrow]

Boru shooting himself you mean lol

[lethal bane]

Was it a stray if I jumped into it?

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah that's was straight up suicide

[lethal bane]

I'm out here purposefully playing FG

[placid yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-gun-shot-gif-14869640

[lethal bane]

Me investing 300+ hours into Sentinel alone

[waxen sonnet]

True masochist

Respect

[placid yarrow]

Guys I'm worried about leo

[waxen sonnet]

Welcome to the club

[lethal bane]

Leo's eating nuts on a train or something

[waxen sonnet]

It's fun. We have a treehouse

[placid yarrow]

I fear he's gone down the deep end

[twilit mountain]

(This may not be the place for this, but I'd just like to say this term is kinda iffy)

[sand wigeon]

I like nuts

Almonds are good

[waxen sonnet]

What is the best nut?

[sand wigeon]

Don’t say it, Deias. I know you don’t like almonds.

[sand wigeon]

Mmm cashews.

[lethal bane]

Almonds are a drain on California

[placid yarrow]

Oh I didn't know that, sorry about that

[twilit mountain]

Frothing at the mouth to rant about my hatred for almonds

[waxen sonnet]

Nut of the common folk.

Pleb nut

[sand wigeon]

WDYM COMMON

THAT SHIT IS EXPENSIVE

[waxen sonnet]

What's a cashew but a poor man's pistachio

[sand wigeon]

uh

[placid yarrow]

Is almond milk more expensive than normal milk?

[sand wigeon]

worse

[twilit mountain]

You're fine, I know there's no harm intended, it's just an unfortunate side effect of some unsavory types from the anime community at large.

[sand wigeon]

cashews taste different and are better than pistachios

[twilit mountain]

Yes. Pretty much all alternative milks are.

[placid yarrow]

Thats messed up

[sand wigeon]

this

[twilit mountain]

Yeah

[sand wigeon]

tastes better though

isn’t fucking disgusting

[placid yarrow]

Normal milk ain't bad imo

Lactose free milk is trash

[twilit mountain]

I was allergic to dairy until i was like, 11. Grew up on soymilk due to it. hate the taste of cow's milk now

[sand wigeon]

idk why the hell i would like drinking the lactations of another being

[waxen sonnet]

Macadamia nut best, pistachio second, almond third

[sand wigeon]

it's so gross

[twilit mountain]

You literally drink milk

[sand wigeon]

sure, but that's because i literally don't have an alternative

[placid yarrow]

I mean I eat meat too

[lethal bane]

Soymilk talk?

Actual soy?

[twilit mountain]

Yes actually soy

I crave soybeans

[waxen sonnet]

Tofucore

[twilit mountain]

I will fucking guzzle soy sauce

You cannot stop me

[placid yarrow]

I feel like drinking milk is similar to eating eggs no?

[lethal bane]

Tofucore vrs. Beefcore

[sand wigeon]

okay woman

[twilit mountain]

I am BUILT for salt.

[lethal bane]

Go suckle another beast's liquid then. Fucking weirdo

[waxen sonnet]

I feel like that is innuendo...

[warped wren]

it's silly tbh

[twilit mountain]

Salt is my PURPOSE

[waxen sonnet]

Just saying

[placid yarrow]

I mean if you insist

[warped wren]

considering that functionally, milked nuts are "cheaper" than anything the dairy industry puts out

[waxen sonnet]

Are we still not doing phrasing? Guys?

[warped wren]

but imagine having costs be tied to actual resource consumption

[twilit mountain]

Propaganda, mostly. And very cool, super based, hyper awesome market manipulation.

[stable shore]

i'm back

so i needed nuts to upgrade gear

[twilit mountain]

Welcome back Leo

[stable shore]

in a computer game

[twilit mountain]

I'm toeing the politics line again

[placid yarrow]

What do they do with the pulp of the milked nuts ( )

[waxen sonnet]

We have made zero progress since you left

[warped wren]

you got dem nuts?

[stable shore]

well none so far

[waxen sonnet]

In fact. We may have regresseed

[stable shore]

i should have supposedly acquire many juciy nuts

but i saw none

[placid yarrow]

Leo do you drink milk

[stable shore]

i'll google it

[sand wigeon]

soymilk to political leftist pipeline

[stable shore]

yes

[placid yarrow]

Good

[warped wren]

there is none lol

zero waste process tbh

[twilit mountain]

I AM GOING TO EXECUTE REAGAN'S SPIRIT

[placid yarrow]

Damn so it's just water and nuts or what?

[warped wren]

if you make it at home, yes

that's exactly what it is

[placid yarrow]

That doesn't sound very good

[warped wren]

wdym

[placid yarrow]

Idk sounds like itd taste like lactose free milk

[warped wren]

just add whatever flavor / fruit / syrup to it that you like

[placid yarrow]

Like it'd miss that depth

Lactose free milk tastes like milk flavoured water

[warped wren]

yes, they're quite light because they're lower on fat and have 0 additives if you make them at home

[placid yarrow]

I feel like this would be nut flavoured water

[warped wren]

when I moved from dairy to alt milks I also felt that

but after a couple days I felt so much better in terms of gut health, and then I got used to it overall

[placid yarrow]

Hmmm I might try it out

[stable shore]

i'll google where the fck are my nuts, i'm supposed to have some

[simple needle]

HUH

[twilit mountain]

Humans aren't really supposed to drink dairy milk

Like

[stable shore]

in the computer game

[twilit mountain]

We can but we're not built for it

[simple needle]

I love Soy milk

makes me soy

[placid yarrow]

I mean yeah deias we also aren't supposed to eat fruit rollups but here we are

[warped wren]

I personally like oat and almond much more than soy

[twilit mountain]

MY SIBLING IN SOY

[simple needle]

oatmilk taste just like water

Almond is nice but expensive

[placid yarrow]

I bet they all taste like water

[lethal bane]

My son loves tofu

[warped wren]

tbf it does taste bland af without some form of addition like honey / maple syrup whatever

[lethal bane]

I like my plain oatmilk

[warped wren]

almond milk in Canada is legit expensive enough that I'd rather just make it at home

is so stupid

[stable shore]

ok i just don't have the quest for it

[simple needle]

Almond nuts are expensive by themselves too

[twilit mountain]

Water has so many different tastes though, it changes based on where it's from, what it's packaged in, the pipes it comes through, filter it goes through if any at all, hell even the pH level messes with the taste of water

[stable shore]

we're not supposed to have plastic in our blood yet here we are

[placid yarrow]

My parents places water hits different no lie

[warped wren]

I once saw a video of a guy who calls himself a water sommelier and this comment reminds me of that

[twilit mountain]

Maybe you're not

[eternal sky]

multiplayer launch was fucked and really shot them in the foot

[placid yarrow]

My guy presents water from the kitchen tap, bathroom tap, shower and toilet

[lethal bane]

Sommelier of nut based drinks

[placid yarrow]

Gav why did you scroll that far up lol

[warped wren]

would you believe that you're mostly bang on

[lethal bane]

Gav is damaged ftom too much PoE

[eternal sky]

my discord was

[copper pawn]

@twilit mountain listened to your advice yesterday, spent around 30 div for some minor changes, and man, now I really have to worry about destroying the spire too fast

[eternal sky]

stuck

up there

[twilit mountain]

DPS moment

Glad it helped though

Also welcome to beverage chat

[eternal sky]

also choccy milk bis drink

dont @ me

chug that shit by the litre

[waxen sonnet]

@eternal sky disagree

[placid yarrow]

Idk I don't like that I can't drink an insane amount of it

[eternal sky]

[twilit mountain]

Bro has never had malta or materva

[stable shore]

i prefer just regular cow milk

bland

with nothing else

[placid yarrow]

If I have a drink I want a metric shit ton of it

Unless it's soda

[eternal sky]

when i make juice i normally just have the jug with me

[stable shore]

soda tastes like absolute shit idk how anyone drink that

[placid yarrow]

Like even if I have water if you give me a pitcher big enough I'll literally over hydrate myself

But with milk I'll end up throwing up instead lol

[warped wren]

I will not lie, I miss having it sometimes

[copper pawn]

the only true adult drink: water

[eternal sky]

water with a can of frozen drink mix in it

[warped wren]

there are some specific curdled versions of it that are made in some regions of India that are just DIVINE

[placid yarrow]

After not drinking it for a while it's very syrupy with an after taste

But the sugar hits different ngl

[twilit mountain]

Inject materva into my fucking VEINS. I want it pulsing through my heart with every beat, make the blood/alcohol levels of lethality look like a JOKE.

[warped wren]

but it is what it is (autoimmune disorder is what it is)

[stable shore]

the aftertaste in the mouth feels super bad imo

it's utter trash for health

it makes you thirstier

and i'm already way too thirsty as a daily basis

[placid yarrow]

Yeah but the sugar rush tho

[copper pawn]

i kinda agree, but it's the effect of drinking soda that matters, not the taste itself

[stable shore]

fuck sugar, makes you fat

[placid yarrow]

Not wrong

[twilit mountain]

I wish

[warped wren]

it does pretty often but it's more like high correlation

[stable shore]

how so

i mean don't get me wrong you need sugar

but not soda sugar

[twilit mountain]

I still weigh 110lb. I have not gained weight in 7 years. I look like a bundle of sticks. I have to wear long sleeves and baggy clothes because I look like a sickly, malnourished runt with my ribs showing through my chest and my spinal cord being traceable.

[warped wren]

soda just has a whole bunch of other toxic shit that's more problematic than sugar lol

[stable shore]

i need to convert to kg so i can react properly

[warped wren]

55 kg

well, 50

[twilit mountain]

^ about that yeah

[placid yarrow]

How tall?

[twilit mountain]

Scoliosis efffects included or no?

[placid yarrow]

No

[stable shore]

55kg seems ok on paper

[placid yarrow]

Depends on how tall

[twilit mountain]

5'8"
I have compressed vertebrae

[placid yarrow]

That's pretty damn skinny yeah

[stable shore]

is it ?

[copper pawn]

Carbonated content alone is harmful for your bones

[twilit mountain]

172cm roughly

[eternal sky]

110 lbs is like

[placid yarrow]

I'm 6 feet and at 130 pounds I was underweight

[stable shore]

hum, it is a bit low then yes

[eternal sky]

getting carried off by the wind almost

[placid yarrow]

Im higher now though

[stable shore]

i'm 6ft and 145lbs

[placid yarrow]

I was overweight, lost too much and then gained back some

Was like 180 pounds

Went to 130

[warped wren]

my fat ass feels attacked

[stable shore]

most i reached was 240lb

[placid yarrow]

Now I hover at 150

God damn brother

[stable shore]

depression + liking food makes wonders

[placid yarrow]

Well maybe I shouldn't say that lol sorry

[warped wren]

I am about 200-220 at 6 ft

[stable shore]

it's ok lmao

[eternal sky]

we are built dif

[stable shore]

i'm back on track so i don't give a shit anymore

[placid yarrow]

When I was depressed I actually lose weight because I was too tired to cook food lol

[eternal sky]

anom

[warped wren]

I don't even eat that much, but I also do not exercise

[placid yarrow]

I just wouldn't eat

[warped wren]

so that just do be how it is

[lethal bane]

I'm like 6ft and 190lbs

[warped wren]

once I start exercising I drop to 180-190

[eternal sky]

like im like 200-220 smth but i also can casually life like 200+ lbs etc

lift*

[stable shore]

i never lost weight by exercising, just stopping eating like shit did the trick

[placid yarrow]

Same

[stable shore]

in fact excercising made me gain weight

because i had no fat to lose

[placid yarrow]

I lost 20kg in pretty much one summer

[warped wren]

I have strength but I need more stamina and overall endurance. I was running earlier in the year but then just lost track. Oh well, will get back to it

[twilit mountain]

I stress eat so hard I just have a fucked metabolism I think

[eternal sky]

yea my cardio sucks

[warped wren]

stress eating sucks, I do it too

[twilit mountain]

I also don't feel hunger consistently so like...

[warped wren]

I managed to not order a pizza yesterday and I was proud of it

[twilit mountain]

Honestly based

Good job

[stable shore]

i do feel hungry most of the time, but i just learnt to ignore it

[placid yarrow]

I'm kinda always hungry tbh lol

[warped wren]

and I talked myself out of going out to get a few cans of beer today

[simple needle]

Leo did u try MH Rise

[stable shore]

too busy playing dress up in ff14

[eternal sky]

i had 2 beers yesterday have 22 sitting in fridge

[warped wren]

I have read that this is partially a function of additives in our foods accrued over years that sort of messes with our liver's appetite regulation system

[copper pawn]

chat went from poe fest to oktoberfest real fast

[warped wren]

haven't read in detail though

[placid yarrow]

Yeah maybe, I've had some periods of time where I feel fine tbh

[stable shore]

is it possible for a metabolism to do a full 180° at some point in your life ?

[placid yarrow]

But like Leo I just ignore it

[warped wren]

in what sense?

[placid yarrow]

Until it gets unbearable then I est

[simple needle]

its called getting old

[eternal sky]

^

fat n old

warm n comfy

in a rocker with my VR PoE

truly a future to live for

[stable shore]

like, i was mostly eating like shit wich mostly explained how i took weight, but i used to be freaking tall and large before that, and it was legit impossible to lose weight. and now it's the complete opposite on every aspect

[eternal sky]

[lethal bane]

I'm vigirous

[twilit mountain]

Don't worry y'all, I'm gettin old early. Back problems, hand problems, leg problems, neck problems, memory problems, teeth problems, eye problems, we just keep collecting

[eternal sky]

[lethal bane]

Unlike you bitches I don't stop. I'm pounding back Costco chicken bakes and hauling small children around

[stable shore]

it was legit a surprise for me to find out i could be slim, even at a normal weight i was heavier when i was 14-15 than now, it's so weird

[warped wren]

whenever I am exercising regularly, I need to eat less. My fit af friend told me it's because your body's efficiency in harnessing energy from food increases drastically the more fit you are, so you need less energy to function, and even if you "overeat" you digest and burn pretty fast

[stable shore]

all of that happened before i excercise though

it's like if i had a factory reset

[warped wren]

and this guy inhales fast food when he wants to and doesn't gain a pound

because he works out like a demon

[stable shore]

well that makes sense yes

[eternal sky]

i have a friend who just like

eats all the garbage

and his body doesnt gain a pound

truly a human of man kind

[stable shore]

tbh excercising makes me eat more

generally i'm too lazy to even eat more than once a day

[eternal sky]

lazymaxxing

[stable shore]

sometime i go on a full day with a bowl of cereal because i'm too lazy to do more

when i have a work out day i get two normal meals though

[warped wren]

I need two full meals + breakfast

[lethal bane]

Minmax for pro corruption pushing

[warped wren]

though our full meals are kinda light by some standards

[stable shore]

i hate breakfast ngl

[warped wren]

just bowls mostly

[stable shore]

i have to force myself to hell to get one

[lethal bane]

At breakfast I do eggs and coffee sometimes. Normallu just coffee

I do a sandwich for lunch

[stable shore]

i only ever have breakfast on exam days

[twilit mountain]

Eating within about 2 hours of waking up makes me deal with a ton of nausea

[warped wren]

when I was young I had that problem. But eventually it inverted and now I feel like I'm starving if I don't have breakfast

actually get hangry without a smoothie / oats bowl

[stable shore]

my routine is just 1 meal at 9pm

basically

[twilit mountain]

Ooo. Smoothie. I like those.

[warped wren]

most efficient breakfast

breakfast speedrunning, if you will

blender go brrrrr

[eternal sky]

if i make breakfest i do eggs toast bacon hashbrowns on 2 sandwhiches

[stable shore]

smoothie is S tier meal

[warped wren]

once my wife gave me smoothie for dinner because she didn't want to cook

[stable shore]

based

[warped wren]

didn't feel that way at the time, but had to shut up and have it because I didn't want to cook either

[shadow sundial]

one affix away from riches

[stable shore]

on that legendary nut questline

[shadow sundial]

your mom completed my legendary nut questline last night

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

[eternal sky]

YEA WELL!

i had your mother make me some cookies

they were very lovely

!!!!

[stable shore]

indeed, i brought some to your daddy when i spent the night with him last night

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

That emote is cursed

Why can't you use normal emotes

Like this one

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

One step closer to TOS

[eternal sky]

three nuts into heaven

[stable shore]

Joke aside ff14 is fucking stupid

You can either defeat godlike boss to upgrade your gear to BIS

Or get nuts

You can exchange a bag of nuts for highest tier boss reward

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

@placid yarrow since you started rereading sword king, do you know wich chapter it is when hanbin randomly find atisse holding a sign in a town ?

i need to find it back for an emote

i know it's early but i don't wanna reread 40 chapters to find it back

[copper pawn]

damn it, so the pob contains a gem that's actually not used at all, just for the sake of simulation lol @twilit mountain

[twilit mountain]

[copper pawn]

imagine figuring out the correct skill gem thru comments instead of pob

how the hell their luxurious hideout looks so beautiful like a wood with a small stream, while mine looks like ass

[simple needle]

DD been killing so many HC players

[eternal sky]

we love when that happens

[stable shore]

me and kappa don't because each DD death quin gets makes 7/7 less likely to happen

end of league is close for him anyway

either his new build pop off and he goes 7/7, or he rip it and lose his ralakesh boots and give up

[copper pawn]

or just equip your AG with garb and forget about whatever crit mods are on the map

[simple needle]

Which character got the Ralakesh boots

[warped wren]

or do if you have the poisoned enemies cannot crit mastery

[junior oyster]

Lol probably the biggest minor change I've seen in a while

[copper pawn]

d3?

[junior oyster]

Yep

[copper pawn]

damn, 1 single 6k random juice map costed me 20 div

I thought that was only possible with 10k+ juice

cry a river

suddenly wanna rage quit league lol

[junior oyster]

Welcome to gaming

[copper pawn]

my dear AG

at least kingmaker drops in price tho

I'll make do without tyrant, for now

[stable shore]

His pf but he banked them

[simple needle]

Rip PF

[stable shore]

Died too young sadeg

[copper pawn]

wonder if tft sells juju in bulk

also not too sure why many things I see in tft is ways more overpriced than poe trade

[twilit mountain]

Bulk selling usually includes a "premium" for the convenience.

[twilit mountain]

I shelled out over $100 for the basically P2W version of Tarkov

And now I get Arena for when extraction stuff is buggin me

[copper pawn]

not bulk selling, like I notice spectre in tft sells significantly more expensive than poe trade

[twilit mountain]

Oh that's just TFT things

They're a little scammy

Generally speaking if you aren't straight up buying a build or buying in bulk you'll get it cheaper just using trade normally. Will it be a little more annoying? Probably. But if you don't want to overpay then that's just the toll.

[copper pawn]

@twilit mountain is this any good?

[twilit mountain]

Nah. Mana leech is dead, stun duration is dead, lower life roll, proj speed is dead on that base.

[copper pawn]

I believe this one is good? as in the case with mana reserv efficiency
what's the best affix to craft on? 35% effect?

[eternal sky]

just sell it

[copper pawn]

craft first then sell, it drops as white

[eternal sky]

rolling 35% effect is like 2k alts

avg

[stable shore]

unless it's giga well crafted people won't pay extra no ?

[eternal sky]

basicly

base is already expensive

[stable shore]

i'd say you'll lose money even if you get lucky on craft

people probably sell their crafted one already for cheaper than it is to craft at this point of league

[copper pawn]

cheapest 35% effectiveness is 34 div

while base item is like 40c

[eternal sky]

i mean then you dont have the right base ilvl then

need 84 ilvl small cluster

a 3 point 84 ilvl cluster is like

24 div

to 32div just posted now

[copper pawn]

ah yes you're right, this one is 83

[shadow sundial]

this shit is insane with mageblood

hey what's weird about this pic?

i got back to my hideout after zooming the fuck around that zone with that buff on me

started to ID some items

then: HOLLLLLLLLLL up

[twilit mountain]

Oh fuck you

[shadow sundial]

my first t0 drop ever 😄

i made myself go back inside and see if i left any other loot laying around. this is the only thing that was left

(it was not a dupe mageblood, unfortunately)

[twilit mountain]

My T0 this league was the worst one to get

[stable shore]

T0 are actually raining

Never found 1 or a mirror shard in 4k hours

May have to do with me being mostly a bosser i guess

[twilit mountain]

Leo you wanna know what's even more annoying?

I have had a Squire drop before when I didn't realize it was a T0

[stable shore]

What happened to that squire ?

[twilit mountain]

Tbh I have no idea. It might have been vendored.

[copper pawn]

imagine you vendor an unid mageblood when you're half sleepy

[twilit mountain]

Haven't done this but I have fallen asleep playing PoE multiple times. And once deleted a stack of 6 divs on accident. Not a lot of money sure, but enough to feel it.

[stable shore]

Worst i did is scouring an amulet i spent 1000+ divine on

I was streaming the crafting process to a friend so he witnessed me losing my fucking mind lmao

[copper pawn]

That sounds like a "fk this I'm done with league" move

[stable shore]

Nah i just spent another 3k divines and started over until it's done

Mistakes happen

It's something most crafter do at least once, like sushi who scoured a several mirrors bow

[daring shore]

oh no you have wasted your imaginary orb

[stable shore]

I like my imaginary orbs 😭

[sand wigeon]

ponder your orbs

[twilit mountain]

@stable shore man you're missing meltdowns in #💬┃general

[elfin stream]

@stable shore you play ffxiv right (?)

[copper pawn]

took some time to switch to mf setup with 2 ventor + bisco belt + rarity support, the result is sick

[stable shore]

Yes

[stable shore]

Interesting fellow again. Boru somehow started it because of his higher minded shitposting

[elfin stream]

it's looking like I will be coming back so is there anything essential I've missed the past... 15ish months

I know how the game is with player etiquette so

[stable shore]

Sadly i can't help with that because i started roughly a bit more than 1 month ago

[daring shore]

not really i think

since we are in that period

where a new expansion is soon

[eternal sky]

i really fucking hope

1.0.0 isnt a trainwreck for epoch

[twilit mountain]

I will never understand why people read a sentence from Boru and take it seriously

[stable shore]

Well there is still a patch coming january 16, wich is very important for me but not that important in its globality

[eternal sky]

the multiplayer launch really shot them in the foot with basicly none of the movement skills working etc

[daring shore]

i still think feb is too soon

and the way they are advertising the new subclasses are wrong

but its their game

[eternal sky]

launch needs to go smoothly

it really needs to

[stable shore]

They will introduce the next msq quests for dawntrail introduction, female variant of lion people guy (i forgot the name) and the new tier of the manderville weapon

That's about it for now

And we got confirmation of the new class pictomancer coming in dawntrail

It's a spellcuck so i didn't look it up in details

[stable shore]

Simply because people are fcking dumb

Simple as

Reading is hard, understanding what you read is even harder

[eternal sky]

reading?

[lethal bane]

Not everyone is as literate as I

[daring shore]

decisions have been made @stable shore

i have a tail now

[stable shore]

ONE OF US

I knew you couldn't resist to the catboy propaganda

[daring shore]

[stable shore]

i see gosestu on the left

[daring shore]

ye he will probably take me to the start of stormblood

its not probably he will

[stable shore]

Oh boy, you're gonna meet my beloved

The man himself

Zenos bae galvus

[elfin stream]

oh shit what world/whatever its called are you

I accidentally picked the french one when I made my character

[junior oyster]

Trashy netflix thinking more than 2 devices are streaming...

[twilit mountain]

It's me, I'm doing it

[elfin stream]

and me

[junior oyster]

Nvm I didn't notice another device being used llol

[stable shore]

Is there a french specific one ? I'm in light for datacenter, and my world is phoenix

[junior oyster]

But no way in heck am I upgrading to 4 screens for a further £8

[elfin stream]

I just picked a random one, chaos -> moogle, went to check after if it mattered all and found out apparently moogle is for most french folk

[stable shore]

Hum i honestly don't know what's up with that

But honest advice : don't play with french people in mmo

It's better to remake your character

[elfin stream]

LMAO

[daring shore]

i am officially in stormblood quests

[elfin stream]

Well I got a cool fire sword on this character so I'm not rerolling out of that nosirree

[stable shore]

Up to you

[daring shore]

you can get a cool fire sword in a server not containing french

[stable shore]

Not the most fun questline, but zenos makes it enjoyable

[elfin stream]

I can just transfer away

costs a bit but still

[stable shore]

I have to finish hilidibrand questline before jan 16

Btw i have a team of giga god gamer coaching me to become a god gamer myself

[stable shore]

i kinda want to start a new ssf poe character

for in between ff14 content

anyone got a ssf splitting steel leaguestarter pob ?

[twilit mountain]

Nope, wouldn't know the first thing about that

It's going fucking lower

(-7C for those who use that)

[twilit mountain]

Leeeeeooooo help me find a build to play
I have Mageblood, roughly 75 to 85 divs, and a bunch of weird mildly useful uniques like Kalandra's Touch just because I could.

[stable shore]

i have the best build ideas but all of them requires infinite amount of currencies to function

[twilit mountain]

Can you turn the infinite meter down to a "non-standard player without infinite currency" level?

I just crashed going to HO immediately after launching

[stable shore]

no joke i legit am trash at making league friendly build

for standard i'm a god scientist and can make you hundreds of game breaking shit

but for league you are signing up for the worst build you ever played if you ask me

[twilit mountain]

Well shit

I literally don't have currency in standard, I gave it all to my friend who plays standard

[stable shore]

make sure i am that friend next time

fund the next overpriced dogshit upgrade i make to my already way too strong build

so i came up with that

there is kinda 0 gear on

so life is low

only bases

[eternal sky]

looks like ur

avg champ pob

tbh

[stable shore]

yeah it's basic

dps isn't actually calculated here

since it's return proj shenaningans

just a question though

how realistic are 2 beltimber for ssf ?

[eternal sky]

uh

i havnt dropped one this league

soo

[stable shore]

hum then i guess i dual wield dreamfeather ?

[eternal sky]

i think dreamfeather is on the same tier

[stable shore]

it fixes my accuracy too

[eternal sky]

could be wrong

[stable shore]

you sure ?

i'm pretty sure it's giga easy to get

but i lose far shot, yikes

it is what it is

[twilit mountain]

Just play MF and get tons of them both

[eternal sky]

ye they both t3 uniques soo its not like /theworst/

[stable shore]

i'll check my ssf std guy

if i have any of those

i may just stick to std ngl

i really don't give a shit about poe, it's like, 1h a day if i don't play ff14

[eternal sky]

ichimonji

is also really good

[stable shore]

it really is

love that thing

i may just go with that ngl

[eternal sky]

sword progression is pretty funny

ichimonji into paradoxica

[stable shore]

paradoxica in ssf

[eternal sky]

surely

[twilit mountain]

Paradoxica is giga overpriced in league for some reason

[stable shore]

do you guys know why i specificaly wants to dual wield sword for this build ?

[eternal sky]

its steel builds

[stable shore]

because saviour

[eternal sky]

they all want that sword

[stable shore]

saviour is my favourite item in the game

yet i have no reason to use it in std

[twilit mountain]

It's just wild how stark a contrast it is in price compared to last league

[eternal sky]

people need a tanky build that deals loads of damage

looks at champ splitting steel

[stable shore]

damn i have actually a rebuke

oh wait, i don't have tincture in std

sad

[twilit mountain]

Nop, no funni

[stable shore]

i have a pre nerf heatshiver

but i genuinely hate that item

[twilit mountain]

Because it's bullshit or because you don't like the way it works?

[eternal sky]

idk it just dominated the helm slot for alot of builds

just equip item for 150% more damage

[daring shore]

for those who use that is certainly a very uncommon way to describe "rest of the world"

[twilit mountain]

Look, there's a mix of people in here

[stable shore]

i hate the way it works

very clunky

[daring shore]

i am aware there is

mix of people

but counterpoint

"haha country using feet to measure things"

[eternal sky]

[stable shore]

ok i'll start my character then

[daring shore]

second counterpoint

[stable shore]

i must think of a good name

[daring shore]

even path switched to using meters

America has no excuse

[daring shore]

DuWUlistSplittingBussy

Remake char

now

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-yskysn-ltg-thunder-thunder-gif-23523876

[eternal sky]

[warped wren]

made it in <20d because I bought an ilvl 76 base rather than 82

[stable shore]

sweet

[warped wren]

great BAMA bow. Just that it's t2 lightning and t2 crit chance rather than t1 of each

but the difference is small enough for the massive savings

the base alone was like 15+ d otherwise

the guy who sold me this base was so kind, I messaged him twice for trade and he was like "it's low ilvl"

and I was like yeah I know, it's fine

[junior oyster]

I know this is fake but it feels so cursed

[warped wren]

when you play so much PoE that you become Chris Wilson

[eternal sky]

we love frac piles

[warped wren]

beeeg

[placid yarrow]

Riot tried to pull a fast one by demoting me right before the ranked season ends because i wasn't playing

[stable shore]

kinda bad no ?

[warped wren]

No spell DD, vendor

[stable shore]

i wonder how much a legacy explode + DD goes for in std

lame, there are none

[mental talon]

Anyone been having crazy hitching in PoE? It's been pretty much unplayable the past 2-3 days and idk what to do.

[warped wren]

servers probably melting with all the loot dropping everywhere

[shadow sundial]

What the hell did I just scroll past in my google news feed

[twilit mountain]

That thumbnail goes hard though

[stable shore]

ok, i just converted my 95 slayer to my new build

since i had a free reset

i'm leveling up gems atm, but it seems to be very strong

i use a mirror tier sword until i find what i need

i must also put on mtx

[daring shore]

it has been constantly laggy for me ever since leauge launch

this leauge their servers are eating shit

its weird bc we had no issues in other leauges

[stable shore]

here is my plan : i spec into essences and harbinger to farm basic material and ancient orb

and syndicate too

then i get belltimber like a chad with ancient orbs

[copper pawn]

juicy juice

maybe I should make 1 myself too, to get the t1 lightning damage

I think you can make huge profit just making that bow, selling for min 50 div

t1 lightning is even hundreds of div

[copper pawn]

@twilit mountain I just realize for just a bit less toughness and damage, I can get any amulet with chaos res and additional curse, no need to be juju, do you think the additional curse outweighs the loss of the last 2 affixes of juju?

[twilit mountain]

Losing that health offset will be noticeable, I think. I can't tell you how the damage will feel without checking it, all I can say is the going from no extra curse Juju to extra curse Juju was like 20mil difference

[copper pawn]

yeah, the 10% dr is also huge, so I'm trying to mitigate with something like max life, not much but still something

[twilit mountain]

How did you get HH, 3 docs, and a mirror shard but you can't afford MB?

[warped wren]

I physically, individually bought 60 Jujus to corrupt today

None of them hit

https://tenor.com/view/my-old-friend-crying-sad-hello-darkness-my-old-friend-gif-11975451

But I did craft some gg cold convert gloves and Omni ring with triple t1 attributes, unveiled life and -mana cost

So idk let's see

[copper pawn]

a super tiring process indeed

[warped wren]

Been playing Path of Trade and Craft since last night

If you're dedicated saving for an MB, you should be able to make it in about 60-100 maps even with bad RNG

And a few scarab explosions / card drops / giga Ventor's or corrupted uniques could significantly shorten

They're not super duper common it's true

But so far I think ever since my 2nd or 3rd set of 16 MF map rotas, I've been able to self sustain scarabs just by buying purple juice

Even now I have about 50 divs worth just as is

Probably make 2-3x as much if I could be arsed to just sit and roll with purple juice

[copper pawn]

you can buy purple juice?

[warped wren]

the difference between t14+ and t7 is pretty hilarious, just warning you

even with like a nearly 2m TS I lose a map now and then

ruetoo optimizes his builds so precisely that it's crazy

and then when you try following it all the prices are jacked, so you cut corners here and there

but those corners are what make the difference

[twilit mountain]

@mortal cape phishing/scam link as usual

[twilit mountain]

Fellas we have entered gigachad territory

Yes, I spent 6div to make a fucking Shaper influence Rakiata's Dance. I regret nothing.

[warped wren]

How much clicking did it take

Oh wait you can force it with that Omen now can't you

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, I forced it. Fucking worth it. Is there a point to this? Not one worthwhile. Am I fucking around with it anyway? Absolutely.

[stable shore]

my splitting steel guy lacks some dps

i hope fury valve and belltimber aren't too hard to find

i wonder how i can target farm them in a reasonable time frame

[simple needle]

Leo Rise is so much fun i think ppl didnt give it a chance

Its Genshin + MH

MH Weeb mode zoom zoom

[stable shore]

the only thing i want other games to take from genshin are femboys

the rest can stay in genshin

[copper pawn]

error 404: king in the mist fortress not found

[daring shore]

not really

genshin has nothing to do with a mh game

it is just more arcade and not realistic

Handheld team always made the non realistic games

[twilit mountain]

Handheld team made MH4U and that game is utter bullshit

[lethal bane]

I liked 4U

[twilit mountain]

It's a good game. But also fuck that game.

[lethal bane]

Did you play MHFU?

[daring shore]

not that there is something wrong with the non realistic games

[lethal bane]

There is

That's why I only play immersive sims like Kingdom Come Deliverance, Last Epoch, and Train Sim

[daring shore]

i would very much enjoy if they somehow can bullshit the Phial extension or the bullet barrage into the mainline

[twilit mountain]

Nope. 3, 4, World, Rise, Gen U.

[lethal bane]

FU had some Fuck U elements

[stable shore]

So quin secret build turned out to just be boneshatter jugg

[lethal bane]

Me cominf up with a new melee build

[stable shore]

He spent weeks running away from meta and not doing any uber on his pf for that reason, he spent days farming giga rare uniques he lost by ripping, he spent days hyping his secret builds

Only to play jugg BS

I'm really disapointed lmao

[eternal sky]

Ubers on boneshatter

[stable shore]

He could have done that week 1

Like everyone else

But no, he had to spend a month of abyss abuse on his meta cuck poison pf chasing for the perfect off meta build first

[warped wren]

Quin out here thinking he's Carn

[stable shore]

You don't need to be carn to beat uber with cringeshatter jugg

[eternal sky]

Tbh

Doing ubers on boneshatters fucked

Quins actually too shit to do them all

[stable shore]

tbh he is good mechanicaly

99% of his death are due to him being an idiot overgearing dogshit build for weeks to test every chance he has to an unlucky rip

facts

[warped wren]

Btw Léo I have started (re)learning French

Soon I will try to talk to you in French and make an ass of myself repeatedly

[shadow sundial]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tempering_Orb is there some way to benchcraft or force these enchantments? or is it just expensive RNG with tempering orbs?

[warped wren]

Expensive RNG, also sometimes Tempered bases drop in Heist

[elfin stream]

potentially crazy for some uniques thou

like a voidforge

[shadow sundial]

i was going to put it on my +2 gems sceptres i'm using as a trapper (qual:ele dmg or AoE), but not if its a divine per attempt and the pool is that large

maybe i'll just buy like 4 and whatever happens happens

[warped wren]

yeah the gg ones are hard to hit, that's what makes them so valuable

[junior oyster]

Goodbye D3. I'll play you occasionally just as I do with D2 but I think it's time to pretty much move onto specifically grim dawn and poe.

[stable shore]

If you learn fr*nch, the first thing you should know is to properly censor it

You wouldn't want to cause an outrage by saying forbidden words

[warped wren]

I am still at infant level, I think I know maybe 50 words tops

Long way to go before censoring

[daring shore]

baguette

cigarette breakfast

wine

these 3 are the only french words you need

[solar tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/omelette-dexter-laboratory-whisper-gif-15038986

[warped wren]

this will never get old

[eternal sky]

Instant waterfall line

[warped wren]

[placid yarrow]

Bruh

Mans dropping whites

[twilit mountain]

Synthesised maps and synthesise craft. It's fucking expensive.

[warped wren]

By buying it from people that do

[twilit mountain]

That too

[warped wren]

Belton doesn't actually play PoE that much

He just crafts

[twilit mountain]

+1 charge bases are hundreds of divs rn afaik

[warped wren]

Conner (Mana guy) found and rolled an absolutely insane synth ring last league that he sold to Jenebu for, like, 3 mirrors?

It funded his bullshit MoM Manaforged accu stacker

Synth bases get pretty fucking wild

Even the synth reroll beasts are hella expensive this league afaik

[copper pawn]

today I'll try out meticulous appraiser atlas node to see whether it's lit or shit

[twilit mountain]

Yeah, rarely.

[eternal sky]

New pc is here

[simple needle]

I need an upgrade on my motherboard Aware

Its gonna be a pain in the ass to swap just the motherboard

[simple needle]

is that a Micro-ATX on an ATX case

[eternal sky]

whatchu talkin about

@simple needle

ah

the motherboard

i see

[simple needle]

micro-atc, Small motherboard, in Big case

how many m.2 slots do u have on it

[eternal sky]

m.2 slots are those ssd slots?

onthe back

[simple needle]

yes

[eternal sky]

2 of em

[simple needle]

Damnnnn

I really need to upgrade mine

[warped wren]

Starforge?

or made your own?

[eternal sky]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864194031205482516/1194066661314142381/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_5755d3e6-0a50-41f7-8d27-a67d08982882.jpg?ex=65af003c&is=659c8b3c&hm=fcc475f30e8154ea7c838df2fb81c9694cec7e9dc9023d57948a3d9e0c64b3f4&=&format=webp&width=526&height=702

prebuilt

and its uh

fuucck 1 sec

its a technoid prebuilt

its in canada

[simple needle]

rtx 3060? cost?

[eternal sky]

its a 4060

[simple needle]

ooo

[eternal sky]

it costed me 1700 CA

[simple needle]

they reduced the price recently

[eternal sky]

was like 1599 before taxes

[simple needle]

for 40 series

the skimmed out on the motherboard tho

idk why they didnt wanna put an ATX on it

[eternal sky]

got 2 more ram slots too

its 32 gigs atm

[simple needle]

its good enough

[eternal sky]

yea

32 is fine for now

by far

[simple needle]

Only money farming gold sellers need more ram

[stable shore]

first time i see one, and it's in ssf

sadly it's not a variation that passionates me, i'll never use it

[copper pawn]

found fortress, followed wisp in maze, dead right on the wisp, wtf

I thought can only die if don't follow the wisp?

[shadow sundial]

uh, how do you get the rewards when you're done with a 100% delirious map?

i dont see the normal "end delirium" button

[copper pawn]

I think you pick the node that makes it never end

[shadow sundial]

i'm wandering path, i dont have notables

[copper pawn]

this one

[shadow sundial]

nope

[copper pawn]

hmm that's strange

[shadow sundial]

it was a delirium map, not a mirror

nevermind, just looked it up. deli maps dont end, the loot drops as you hit each stage

[twilit mountain]

It's funny how often I see this confuse people

[warped wren]

Unending Nightmare works the same way

[eternal sky]

youtuber makes video

this thing is suddenly worth 15+ div

was literally a 1c item

[twilit mountain]

tf is that

[warped wren]

is that.. Fragility

[twilit mountain]

Replica I think? It's got the weird orange glowy bit

[warped wren]

Yeah seems so, just checked trade

What build is it even for I wonder

[eternal sky]

subtractem made a vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzeqhqHb8s

dont mind me printing enduring compsures over here

[copper pawn]

look expensive with all those unique jewels

[eternal sky]

yea it is expensive

all the prices on those items went up by like

1000%

like the impossible escape went from 40c

to 15 div

the fragil went from like 3c to 15 div also

[mental talon]

lmao well time to that Replica Fragility

[eternal sky]

composure stonks

already

[warped wren]

Another 3d budget build

[solemn harness]

no, closest would be the PoE subreddit discord which has 8+ GGG members lurking

reading things in their free time, and occasionally answering questions? exactly the same thing normal people do there

and it's as close to official as you're going to get, Chris Wilson originally made the subreddit, he just doesn't like it when developers control things like that and handed it off to the community instead

only thing "more" official is PoE wiki which GGG hosts directly, but they have even less direct involvement with that discord server, and it's way smaller

anything bug report or support related is directed to the official PoE forums and/or email

yes, the community-run discord servers have community-dictated rules, that's by design and that's exactly what I was talking about with Chris Wilson

he doesn't like and very specifically did not want GGG to control that aspect

he is 100% in favor of the community self-policing

only the official forums and the actual game are exceptions

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I haven't had any issues, but admittedly I'm not super active on the main discord, and only somewhat on the wiki discord

probably most active on the path of building discord tbh, though that's only really intended for people actually contributing to PoB in some way

[solemn harness]

I mean.. it depends on the bug..? Sometimes people find bugs that are absolutely not appropriate to share publicly (think: item duplication), so they would much rather get them via email or private message. Can't really comment on the rest of that without a lot more context.

[maiden widget]

but it doesnt do that, its just a huge community which some ggg devs joined

[solemn harness]

GGG does not provide official support in any capacity on discord, so no, it's not hiding some support function behind anything

you're just looking in the wrong place for support and acting surprised when you find it lacking 💩

unofficially there are a couple of people from GGG that will respond to questions over discord, but that is absolutely not their job

[maiden widget]

but there is no support function there

it's either email or their forums

[solemn harness]

also if you've ever actually emailed GGG, their support team responds practically instantly there; so idk what there even is to complain about

literally had response times measured in seconds for some of my emails

I don't get what you mean, then

GGG has no official presence whatsoever on discord, only unofficial; I told you where they have the highest unofficial presence (the subreddit discord)

beyond that idk what there is to discuss lol, if you want to communicate with them in an official capacity look somewhere that isn't discord

GGG is not obligated to do anything official via discord, no game developer is

[copper pawn]

I agree with this, a game dev only has duty on 2 platforms: their official email, and their forum

[daring shore]

that might be true in 2000

we live in 2023

and discord is a big part

you cannot just exclude it anymore

we are not in 2k

idk about the poe2 QA thing

i just commented on the discord itself

[solemn harness]

Chris Wilson could decide to do any/all of those things over Discord tomorrow, completely unofficially, so yeah; those can totally be "free time activities"

I've spoken to three different PoE devs over discord with technical questions and gotten answers, none of them were answering in an official capacity

running a discord officially is very different from simply using discord once every so often because it's there and convenient

that's on you I guess, don't break the rules lol

[copper pawn]

2023? not even in 2300
official really means official, will not change with time

[solemn harness]

I have no idea what you got banned for, but I do know the people that run the PoE subreddit discord are reasonable people

so if you got banned you probably deserved it, frankly

they are very lenient, as long as you aren't stupid and try to argue with them on rule interpretation

no, I'm assuming you broke a rule (or multiple), since you said you got banned but haven't elaborated on what you did or what you were banned for

[daring shore]

and you deserved it

if you cheated

what the fuck

[solemn harness]

if it was really something innocent you wouldn't just immediately claim the people banning you were in the wrong, you would have some sort of defense

[waxen sonnet]

Well... Did you cheat?

[copper pawn]

asking the real question

[waxen sonnet]

That's not an answer

[daring shore]

i cheat in video game- i get banned as a result of my cheating- "i do not deserve this ban"

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-gif-27609644

[waxen sonnet]

Did you cheat?

[copper pawn]

then appeal for it

[waxen sonnet]

Then why did you get banned for cheating?

[daring shore]

the game does not matter

you cheat- you get banned

[copper pawn]

I knew many cases of false banning in lol, all managed to appeal successfully

[daring shore]

thats how things work

then you appeal that say that your account got hacked

[solemn harness]

so the guy that "hacked" you probably cheated, and therefore you got banned

[daring shore]

see you got the access to your game back

what was the original point

[eternal sky]

After reading everything artifacts typed

[daring shore]

i gotta do that as well hang on

[waxen sonnet]

No one said that. At all

Not once

[daring shore]

also it was just maximus

and if you get banned

you dont just get banned out the ass

[waxen sonnet]

Nope. The only assumption was that you got banned for a real reason

[daring shore]

something triggered that ban

[waxen sonnet]

Because... You got banned

[daring shore]

you contact whoever is in charge wheter its something official or not and explain your case

[solemn harness]

you still haven't said what you got banned for or provided any evidence to suggest that they weren't right to ban you; so I said given the absence of contradictory evidence I'm going to assume the people moderating that discord had a good reason, as I've known them for quite a while and they're reasonable people

[copper pawn]

"innocent until proven guilty" is only true when it hasn't been proved, for example, if you told us you were arrested by the police, do you think we need to ever consider innocent until guilty? when someone did the proof for us already

[daring shore]

me thinking GGG being a boomer and not having an official discord in the gods year of 2023 is is something else entirely and its a thought of my own

very much seperate from what is going on

[solemn harness]

if someone told me my best friend banned someone, and didn't elaborate on why they got banned, just saying "your best friend is an asshole, corrupt, banned me for no reason" I'm going to assume there's more to the story you're deliberately choosing not to share, and my friend hasn't suddenly gone to the dark side 🤣

[waxen sonnet]

More to the story is the key here. Especially with you being so obviously obtuse and vague

[daring shore]

so artifact got banned in a community hosted Reddit server and now mad or smth

what is the lore

[copper pawn]

when there are 2 sides to the story, people will naturally believe that the official side has proven something, it's just natural that way in most society

[daring shore]

your reputation of

?

[solemn harness]

I mean I looked at your messages on that discord server, I couldn't find anything that looked like you "defending your reputation"

mostly just a lot of complaining about everything in the game and the discord server

etc

[daring shore]

i talk shit about the server i am in

[copper pawn]

was about to ask for screenshots, bro you're real quick

[daring shore]

why am i no longer in the server

you are allowed critize things

that

is not how you do it

[solemn harness]

I'm willing to bet he got banned for arguing with everyone too much, probably including moderators or something

[copper pawn]

fine line between criticizing and insulting

[solemn harness]

and before you ask yes, doing that is against the rules

the first rule on that server, in fact:

1.  Be Respectful! Personal abuse, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature won’t be tolerated. This includes belittling other users based on their platform or league of choice. Someone else's bad behavior does not justify it for yourself.

[copper pawn]

in most civilized countried, freedom of speech is a human right, and at the same time defamation is also a crime

[ember lake]

I know 😆

[waxen sonnet]

I talk shit about froxy

[placid yarrow]

artifact bro

[maiden widget]

I finally got around to play magicraft and it's pretty fun btw. A bit early but the combos are fun as fuck

[daring shore]

and i am not shot or hanged with a golden rope

see

[copper pawn]

will I get shitty fps when playing 1.0? 😅

[daring shore]

you can be not a dick and convey your point

[solemn harness]

hell even if you are a dick, it's super easy to apologize and move on

[placid yarrow]

They are making some improvements in 1.0 with the new lighting so it might run better actually

[waxen sonnet]

In fact I've never been banned from a game forum of discord or anything. Why is that and yet you are persecuted unfairly?

[daring shore]

if people are not taking your respectfully put out point

leave

the server

path has like bazillion people playing it

[daring shore]

last epoch is not in the wrong buy a better PC

[placid yarrow]

I've managed to not get any punishment of any kind in league for almost 11 years, I'm a shining example of an upstanding citizen

[waxen sonnet]

Ave in off topic is never good. Ominous...