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copper pawn
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which is true to this channel's name?

shadow sundial
rugged island
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Lul

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Gottem

copper pawn
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I mean, let's not pretend US cares about international IP laws and shit, they just want to keep china backward and that's it

rugged island
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China hates the US and is the main competitor to US on a global stage.. why would the US want to help them

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Makes sense to me

copper pawn
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british empire tried that to US back then too, but failed

rugged island
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The CCP is also fundamentally opposed to western democracy on an idealology level

copper pawn
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regardless how how they got the tech

rugged island
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They also cut corners and the market would be flooded with junk. There is literally no top brand for any computer part that comes out of China. The best stuff is either American or Taiwanese. For any part.

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Japan and SK get notable mentions

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But Taiwan is where it's at

copper pawn
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Japan is king of semiconductor chemicals, they are huge

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then netherland has EUV

rugged island
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And Japan respects international law and doesn't steal trade secrets

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So they get to play with everyone else

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As does the EU

copper pawn
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totally unrelated

rugged island
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Europe is quite lagging behind on the tech industry in a global scale though.

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Asia and North America dominate it

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Germany by itself is probably 80% of European technology industry

copper pawn
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in a sense, if japan and netherland shake hand together, even the US is fucked with semiconductor sector

rugged island
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lol as long as ther dollar is the world's main economy, any nation is more fucked by not trading with the US than the other way aroudn

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it won't always be that way but that's how it is today

copper pawn
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it really depends on which industry
take car consumption for example, china is much more impossible to lose as a consumer market than US, the German brands know this the best
even apple, this year they suffer huge sale loss for ip15, and instead of say fuck china, they say fuck sleepy joe instead

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in the end, it's all about what can a country offer to be the leader, US has the most tech, thus usd is strong, and totally understandable that it cannot allow china to take away the only thing that backs up usd

rugged island
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Can also factor in oil buying/selling done in USD, as well as reserve currency held

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The only two other currencies that come close are yuan and euro and both offer much less than the dollar does

copper pawn
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it's the tech that gives US such economic scale, then vice versa, a good cycle
oil is no longer dominated by USD though, even the arab countries are selling oil and LNG to china using yuan, can also say that very soon petrodollar era will end, but tech dollar will of course be strong for much longer
as positive as me, I can't see china catching up to core techs in the next 50y, even 1 of the most important core tech which is material science, they are still behind russia, not mentioning US

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but never say never, if british empire managed to fuck up its leader position, so can the US, or any future leader after the US

rugged island
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well yeah

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no empire is forever

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but for now and the forseeable future it doesnt look like it will change

copper pawn
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I wouldn't dare to say foreseable future, from the great depression in late 1920s, most people back then could never imagine in just within 15y, US would topple british empire, and 15y is honestly very short

shadow sundial
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yo this is for real. first time using it. got to 90% DR from armor haha

warped wren
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damn

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never used that ability

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this would be crazy good on Legionnaire

shadow sundial
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yeah man. i was trying to make Arcane Shield work, but it doesnt scale well (and it gets negative mods from increasing map levels)

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much better to just mitigate the damage up front

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leveling my death knight and i took this as a mastery rune and it's niiiice

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i also took the War Tank rune (50% more block, but -1 dash) cuz... death knight

eternal sky
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After ww2 they were sick of it

tawny sand
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why they fight over the falklands then

warped wren
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<@&1082357055484071997>

stable laurel
shadow sundial
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this scaling is no joke

warped wren
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yo what the fuck

shadow sundial
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very deadly death knight

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i have discovered that dashing is overrated. especially when your movespeed is faster than dash anyway. and getting the +3000 body mass stat on the DK means no knockback from stupid meteors ๐Ÿ˜›

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the enemy attack speed scaling gets crazy. you basically have no time to react to the telegraphs

warped wren
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hmmm

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I should level my DK then

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the problem with some of the classes is how their special abilities either take too long to scale, like Legionnaire, or force you to move towards shitty areas, like Beastmaster

shadow sundial
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i dont even need the DK's ascension for this shiz

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saw this on one of the DKs weapons and i was like yessssssssss... power overwhelming

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i'm at 93% armor mitigation and 75% block chance atm ๐Ÿ˜›

warped wren
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Any skill that multiplies damage based on number of stacks of an ailment becomes OP by default

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In fact I think it's the only sensible way to push max curse stuff

shadow sundial
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3 trillion health each, no biggie

shadow sundial
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stacks and stacks

placid yarrow
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Damn Poe 2 will have wasd movement support

shadow sundial
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i think i need to just surrender at this point, i dont have all day

eternal sky
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Ultimatum back

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Wtf

placid yarrow
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New league looking good

shadow sundial
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that's a hard pass. just surrendered

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apparently you can tank ridiculous amounts of damage when you get your DR to 93%

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over half a quadrillion damage done by me

junior oyster
warped wren
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this patch is PoE1.5

shadow sundial
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2h sword trap... man they're running out of ideas

junior oyster
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Seems trash

eternal sky
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Its good

waxen sonnet
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Except you can throw what? Nine traps?

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That's 18 swords spinning lol

shadow sundial
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why not a trap that spawns other traps. recursive traps. each one does progressively larger damage. biggest one swings around a 3-handed sword!

eternal sky
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Its for voidforge/starforge stuff

shadow sundial
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"hey, that's pretty stupid" you may be thinking

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and you'd be correct

eternal sky
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And big impale 2h swords

junior oyster
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So basically super expensive builds

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As always

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It pisses me off that I can't play poe offline

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Would love to try out all these builds at my own pace

eternal sky
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Wdym

junior oyster
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I mean spawning the items I want lool

eternal sky
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....

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Thats called crafting

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Or target farming tbh

junior oyster
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You can't craft a mb

eternal sky
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Sure you can

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Craft enough vises etc

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And get the money

junior oyster
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Either way I'd rather have an offline mode to play

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When and if on the rare occasion I do play le I always play offline

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Oh well I guess I can always enjoy someone else playing the awesome builds

waxen sonnet
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@stable shore

stable shore
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Oh, nioh does have fire weapon model

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Those looks nice

waxen sonnet
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So many cool weapons types too

stable shore
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Bruh i want to end my fcking life, as if boneshatter wasn't op enough it now has 1% more damage per trauma quality

waxen sonnet
stable shore
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And berserk lost attack dmg for cooldown recovery

stable shore
waxen sonnet
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Well it functions such that it wouldn't work with a longer handle. It has two forms

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Think switchaxe

stable shore
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oh, i see

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about path of exile

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i think i'm gonna have 1.5B dps next patch omegalul

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there is ONE buff that is absolutely poggers for me

waxen sonnet
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Fucking standard lol

stable shore
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i mean shit

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we might be perforating now

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i already have 1B pob dps with it

waxen sonnet
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Yeah that's a huge change

stable shore
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it's gonna get 2 extra spikes and 50% damage effectiveness

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i might even reach 1.7B idk

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who knows

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it's gonna be filthy

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i might go back to poe and play ssf at some point

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there are so many huge melee buff

waxen sonnet
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I do love melee

stable shore
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just look at that

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makes me want to play an ice bite raider in ssf right now

waxen sonnet
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That's gonna be nice for the hollow palm people too

stable shore
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also this now brings me to 110% chance to deal double damage

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but that's overkill and perforate will be better after

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ggg cooked, after all these years we finally get the long awaited buff to underused skill

waxen sonnet
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Holy shit. Biiiiiiiig nerfs

shadow sundial
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nobody said the path of EXILE is an easy one to walk

viral galleon
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holy shit that corpses

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METAMORPH GONE? wow

eternal sky
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Ulti back

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Thank god they shot heatshiver

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Holy fuck

viral galleon
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The Ranger and Scion have received audio dialogue for Part Two of Path of Exile.

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YOOOO biggest patch notes

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Animate Guardian:
No longer has 0-76% increased Minion Maximum Life, Minions deal 0-76% increased Physical Damage with Melee Attacks, or causes Minion's Attacks to deal additional Physical Damage. It now has 0% more Minion Maximum Life and more Minion Damage at gem level 1, both scaling up to 38% at gem level 20. Animated Guardians now have roughly 11% more base Life inherently, and now have 2 to 6 added Physical Damage while Unarmed.

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punch guardian?

copper pawn
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yo, anything new with poe2?

warped wren
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which are basically guns

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looked quite fun tbh

narrow token
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I just wanna punch and kick stuff to death.

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GIMME!

eternal sky
stable shore
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how do i level up quickly from 70 to 80 in ff14 ?

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i'm thinking i could level up the reaper to see how well it does at 80

faint mauve
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main scenario roulette

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those 4 are the best sources, then followed by 50 60 70 dungeons, normal raid (least). all still good to do daily

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wondrous tale submission weekly for 50% exp

stable shore
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main scenario roulette is solo ?

faint mauve
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no 4 ppl, but main scenario is the most exp per minute on the roulette

stable shore
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hum i'll do that then

faint mauve
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then leveling roulette and trial roulette

stable shore
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can i have npc or i gotta play with other ?

faint mauve
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aka you do most of them everyday

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just not levequest roulette

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play with others, npcs too slow

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once you do all those, then there are other sources of exp

near hedge
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depending on queues the fastest is to spam the highest lvl dungeon you have unlocked. they nerfed the exp from deep dungeon so thats a bust now

faint mauve
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you still prioritize roulette first

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then you can do the highest lvl dungeon

near hedge
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pvp gives decent exp, and its basically an instant queue now. fate farming is garbage now. leves are a waste unless youre doing crafters and even then its a wash. eureka is okaayy, but its still way slower than doing dungeons. however any of the dungeons at 50,60,70,80 give fuckall exp. so those arent exactly worth it imo.

near hedge
faint mauve
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eureka doesnt give exp

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bozja does

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bozja exp probably the single best source for 80 - 90 outside of roulettes

near hedge
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ye i usually just bunch those together when i say eureka

faint mauve
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on top of earning millions of gil in a short time

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bozja encounters are harder than your normal dungeons

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and the raids too

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generally the bozja enjoyers are decent at least

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once you unlock bozja raids theres another weekly quest added to your list

near hedge
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how easy is it to solo all of that stuff. bozja is one thing i never touched

faint mauve
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you can solo fates yourself, and also make a build to farm solo effectively

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yes there's build setups in bozja and eureka

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tanks can apply a buff to boost 60% damage, dps roles can gain mitigation + hp etc

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so you can take the role of 2 classes in 1

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but critical engagements solo you need to be really good to pull it off

near hedge
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oh that sounds pretty cool

faint mauve
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yeah its great, a zone where you just concentrate on killing shit and getting rare loot

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i can understand endwalker not doing another conflict zone since they did eureka/bozja, and i guess our end game is like a holiday post adventure thing

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dawntrail will have another conflict zone apparently

near hedge
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i mean island sanctuary was their form of it this expansion

near hedge
faint mauve
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this is how you modify your loadout, all of them come from different sources within

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so the grind is pretty long and varied lol

stable shore
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is there a limit ?

faint mauve
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once a day on each

stable shore
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okay, once all of that is done i move to dungeons ?

faint mauve
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if i were to rank exp per minute its MSQ,leveling,trial as top 3

near hedge
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yeah after you do it once you dont get the bonus

near hedge
stable shore
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fuck this is gonna take so long to get back up to 80

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my reaper is 71

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sigh

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let"s get to work

near hedge
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nah its faster than you think

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your dps. so have fun with the queues lol

faint mauve
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you can do it lol

near hedge
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and dont forget to eat

faint mauve
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black mage is next in my list , i probably never want to do warrior cause unethical

stable shore
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i feel like queue will be a huge issue lmao

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i'll go with dungeons

near hedge
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if i remember right its like 6 runs to get a level at that point

stable shore
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i experienced 3 hours queue already

near hedge
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each one at like 20 minutes

stable shore
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holy fuck, reaper at level 50 is 4 skills

near hedge
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lol youre lucky. healers its 2

stable shore
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reaper isn't an actual build until minimum level 80

faint mauve
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i rarely do roulettes now since i normally cap my comedy tomes from A hunt trains

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if i do them its trial/normal for second chance points

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bozja raids more important since i can make millions out of a single raid if i get good loot

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and 3 million exp haha

stable shore
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i like my reaper bar

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looks comfy

faint mauve
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dps classes have longer queues on dungeons anyway

stable shore
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i can't wait for it to fill up a bit though

faint mauve
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healer/tank have priority

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dps classes queue better for trial/normal/alliance raids

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my two cents is just take it slow so you dont burn out

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if you really want to engage in savage raiding then join a static doing legacy raids

viral galleon
# copper pawn yo, anything new with poe2?

they expanded the crossbow showcase they had a while ago. crossbows will grant you a skill, then you have free reservation gems that add affects to the crossbow depending on what they are. they have a rapid fire crossbow, shotgun crossbow, and sniper crossbow types they showed off. in addition, the "offhand" for crossbows will have undermounted grenade launchers, and again the type of mount will determine what the grenade does, like flash bangs are big stuns, or oil grenades create oil on the ground that slows enemies and catches fire.

in addition, some skills are now able to be used while you are moving, though they do slow your character. its at least better than having to stand still. and they added wasd movement as an option because crossbows basically are like "twin stick shooter" builds.

copper pawn
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I heard poe2 has wasd movement, that shit is great

viral galleon
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its fully optional, you can play with kbm as you currently can or play wasd

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we'll see how it works with builds other than bows/crossbows

eternal sky
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also that boss fight

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where she cleaves a fetus out called the unwanted

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holy frugg

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also all the combos with the crossbow is sick

faint mauve
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i'm gonna do ruthless again next league, lol

eternal sky
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alot of builds are just good now

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vortex got gunned

faint mauve
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yeh hrishi must have heard my wishes for slight boost to currency drops so im very keen for ruthless round 2 lol

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just gotta figure out what build to make

copper pawn
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anyone play totem build in slormancer? idk what it scales with, so unclear, unlike LE

junior oyster
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Gav how good/bad is srs popcorn (before I go to poison) this league?

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Also I lowkey wanna try doing SSF

turbid trail
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Dont go popcorn, play hit based guardian

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Its much better

eternal sky
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Big sent guy go brrf

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Also bow build is an option

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Tornado shot is just op

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And gets 4proj baseline now

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Bows in such a good state

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The Lightning arrow qual is huge

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But yea id recc bow deadeye

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Super fast from the get go

maiden widget
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I might just go LA + Arty ballista again

junior oyster
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Why not necro as poison necro?

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Oh yea you said ssf

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Fair point

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Would that mean I go lightning srs at some point then?

copper pawn
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have to wait 6 months tilll poe2, so long

junior oyster
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Lol noob

tawny sand
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dawn of war's default keybinds are awful

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fun game tho

shadow sundial
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bloodlust + scent of blood = absolutely ridiculous cooldown

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even my "long" recast skills are hitting like a machine gun haha

lethal bane
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@twilit mountain @stable shore melee Duelist recs?

twilit mountain
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Reject melee, embrace Steel

eternal sky
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Perforate probs works

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Slams work but u nees fourth vow

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Use bens helm

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Be zerker

lethal bane
twilit mountain
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Shatterin, Lancing, Splitting, your pick

lethal bane
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Are they at least pseudomelee?

twilit mountain
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Not really. They're projectiles mostly. I think Shattering can be real close range though

warped wren
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Champion obviously

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also Slayer Boneshatter would still work probably

twilit mountain
waxen sonnet
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I hope rakiatas stays. I want to do my rakiatas wild strike ranger

twilit mountain
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Pretty sure it's confirmed to stay

lethal bane
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I did do Boneshatter Jugg for a bit

waxen sonnet
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Sweet

warped wren
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Core drop pool

waxen sonnet
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Hell yes

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Such a cool weapon

warped wren
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Also they literally made Wild Strike worse

waxen sonnet
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And it's HUGE

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No ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

warped wren
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It's a very cool weapon I agree

waxen sonnet
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How? That's like impossible

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I only use it because I love it, not because it's good haha

warped wren
waxen sonnet
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Ugh

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Wtf

warped wren
waxen sonnet
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Alt qual?

warped wren
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No idea about Transfigured gems yet

waxen sonnet
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Ah ok. Still hope

warped wren
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Except the ones they've specifically showcased

waxen sonnet
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Who uses WS for ailments lol

warped wren
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Who uses WS for ailments lol
Ftfy

waxen sonnet
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Also I wonder if FB is just dead in the water now

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I use it!! Haha

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With rakiatas you can get decent damage. Although tbf that's more because of the weapon, not the skill ๐Ÿ˜‰

warped wren
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It's giving you more projectiles as base quality now

warped wren
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It's entire late game scaling is basically that alt quality

shadow sundial
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shield bash doing some work on my assassin. assassin with a shield, you say? uh sure, why not!

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main gauche ofc

twilit mountain
warped wren
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Yeah that's why I said late game. Having a build be Uber viable, even if you don't actually do them, enables the ability to do a ton of other high end stuff

twilit mountain
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I am gonna have to fundamentally disagree with your perception of what late game means then

warped wren
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Sure you could probably still do your Harvest / Guardian farm / Essences / whatever pretty easily

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Personally I wouldn't play Boneshatter into late game anyway, I'd just fall asleep ramping

waxen sonnet
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Although I didn't know about the proj quality. That's huge

warped wren
twilit mountain
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We now have legacy Heatshiver. AND, legacy legacy Heatshiver.

warped wren
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I am just gonna start a very simple TR Ballista PF

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safe bet and I have limited time for the first two weeks of launch anyway

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by the time I'm able to play it'll be a lot easier to branch into another build if I want

waxen sonnet
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If I end up playing, no clue what I would start with. I'm usually a right side player. Maybe something trickster

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Or PF

tawny sand
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man dawn of war was a good video game dang, i've been playing soulstorm all day

lethal bane
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Yes

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Recomendations

stable shore
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Frenzy slayer ice bite imo

lethal bane
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Melee?

stable shore
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Yep

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Maybe hollow palm too

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Or two handed axe crit

lethal bane
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I do like 2H Axes

warped wren
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Lightning Strike Champ is still a thing btw

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better clear but significantly worse single target than Molten Strike

stable shore
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We don't speak cringe, only chad melee build

warped wren
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Molten Strike is melee

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so what if its Nimis abuse

stable shore
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Go away with your not actually melee build

warped wren
stable shore
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Lightning strike isn't melee

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If you call it melee then power siphon is

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I'm gonna be a perforate andy but i doubt i can recommand it to you boru, impale melee still sucks overall despite the huge buff perforate got

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Clear is giga good though

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And it's not clunky at all

warped wren
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Perforate clear doesn't feel good

stable shore
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It does imo

warped wren
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if you really are determined to play impale melee then the "best" option is Boneshatter

stable shore
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Of course it is

warped wren
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or you be a chad like Goratha and go Glacial Hammer Champ

stable shore
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But fuck boneshatter

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Really

warped wren
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yeah Goratha had a pretty nifty GH setup

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I don't know if it's still viable without tattoos

stable shore
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Should be ok

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I'm convinced perforate is good now

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Not as much as BS in damage but it has better clear at least

lethal bane
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I wanna be melee

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IDC if its less optimal

stable shore
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Yeah but there is a difference between optimal and doghit

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Perforate buff is huge, but i can't confidently recommand it to you

warped wren
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oh sorry it's a GH Jugg

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Yet another update, this is my character from day 3-4. I've mostly being doing non-atlas mechanics such as heist, sanctum, and league mechanic.

So not too much footage from maps unfortunately, BUT I am very happy with how the character has been going so far!

As always you can follow along at https://www.twitch.tv/goratha

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โ–ถ Play video
stable shore
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wait

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It's 100% way worse now

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Heatshiver died

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Tatoo isn't the biggest issue here

warped wren
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fuck I keep forgetting that helm is dead now

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my bad

stable shore
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Yep maybe not viable anymore at low budget

warped wren
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you could try Impale Dom Blow Champ Boru

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it'll get you to reds for sure, just on the strength of the skill alone

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but beyond that idk

stable shore
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Tbh impale perforate champ/slayer might be huge

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The perks lf the build is spikes overkap

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So you get max impale stacks first hit

shadow sundial
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all runes, weapons, and global skills unlocked!

warped wren
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wow

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that's pretty amazing man, gratz

eternal sky
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@warped wren if im being real

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caustic arrow pf is giga cruiser

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and once you get aseneths it goes crazy

warped wren
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CA Ballista?

eternal sky
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nah just self cast CA

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just go ballis in chest then have a 6l caustic arrow with arrow nova

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in ur lvl scaling bow

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*toxic rain ballis

waxen sonnet
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I might do that actually

eternal sky
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man this league is going to fuck soo hard

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actually soo many new builds to play

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GGG W

shadow sundial
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i somehow talked myself back into playing this again

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"just gonna go casual this time. one toon only."

placid yarrow
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1580 f2p is pretty crazy lol

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When did you quit?

shadow sundial
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july. shortly after Kayangel came out

placid yarrow
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Ah I stopped a bit over a month after launch

shadow sundial
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i was always on the top edge of progression. our guild was a serious GVG contender guild on our server

placid yarrow
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Idk how ilevels look now ig

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Or when you quit

waxen sonnet
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What is this?

placid yarrow
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Lost ark

waxen sonnet
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LA I assume?

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Yup

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Looks ridiculous lol

placid yarrow
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It gets a lot of hate but outside of the honing system it's an amazing game

waxen sonnet
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I will probably try it eventually

shadow sundial
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the raid content in LA is top notch... and im saying that with 20k+ hours in MMORPG/ARPG

placid yarrow
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Hopefully the western version eventually gets a honing rework tbh

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I'd play again for sure

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I put in 400 or so hours in a month into it at launch

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I fucking lived it

shadow sundial
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there's lots of catch up mechanics. i have one even for my level of progression apparently

placid yarrow
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And then I quit cold turkey because the game was fucking my life up a bit lol

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And I hit the brick wall that was Argos at the time

shadow sundial
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the i1540/1580 tabs there are the two progression tiers (raids) that i just missed from quitting four months ago

placid yarrow
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But yeah don't play a game for 12 hours a day literally every day for a month

#

Not good for you

rugged island
#

What in the diablo immortal meets weeb is this game?

placid yarrow
#

Is Brellshaza out btw?

#

Always wanted to do that raid

rugged island
#

is this genshin

shadow sundial
#

LA released in... Feb '22 i think? my /played hours in those 17 months are... kind of a lot

rugged island
#

THATS NOT A MOBILE GAME? THAT UI LOOKS SO BAD THEN

#

LOL\

waxen sonnet
#

Why are you yelling

rugged island
placid yarrow
#

Idk I didn't mind the ui tbh lol

waxen sonnet
#

Touche. I have no rebuttal

placid yarrow
#

And yeah that's pretty crazy entropy lol

shadow sundial
#

i have a theme for my skins

placid yarrow
#

Almost 6 hours a day average

waxen sonnet
#

Tbf it does look like some straight up mobile battle pass shit lol

placid yarrow
#

For almost a year and a half

shadow sundial
#

i went full degen the first two week i played Last Epoch... 140 hours /played in first 14 days

placid yarrow
#

I liked the cosmetics in it tbh, I played in a cow costume at the end

#

They're silly but fun

rugged island
#

woman in bikini, guys with shoulder pauldrons as big as a pickup truck, and a teddy bear suit. bless korean mmos

shadow sundial
#

page two of roster. bikini, since you asked

waxen sonnet
#

Yen falcon would be so proud of you

placid yarrow
#

Lol

rugged island
#

shame

placid yarrow
#

There's no Booba slider sadly

#

Iirc

shadow sundial
#

there's plenty of booba right there man

waxen sonnet
#

Now that's real murrican booba right thurr

shadow sundial
#

also, there are way more booba-ish skins. i just went for the ones that i could dye in my Murrica theme (many of them cant be dyed)

waxen sonnet
#

Just don't play code vein lol

#

Pretty much yeah actually

placid yarrow
#

Idk I don't want that floating around lol

waxen sonnet
#

Probably a good call ๐Ÿ™‚

solar tiger
lethal bane
waxen sonnet
#

Nah he still posts.

#

Just less

narrow token
#

Oh wow Lost Ark.

#

Didn't know ppl still played that.

copper pawn
#

maybe it's like d3, worth coming back every season, for a few days

narrow token
#

If it was like D3 I'd play it more tbh.

#

Playing D3 right now, in fact.

stable shore
#

ff14 bros, how long is dps queue time for daily raids roulette in your experience ?

narrow token
#

I haven't played in over a year, but mine were like 10 minutes.

#

Actually no, wait. 2 years.

#

Start of Endwalker

stable shore
#

hum it's been 40 minutes now

#

i guess it was a bad idea to tag this late in the night

#

but with all the time i spent in queue it's a waste of time if i quit now

stable shore
#

maybe but i can't tell if this is the right move or not

stable shore
#

roulette, level 50 ones

faint mauve
#

didnt i say dps classes queue longer for dungeons

stable shore
#

you did

faint mauve
#

only alliance raid/normal/trial is usually ok for dps

#

thats why i highly encourage you level a tank, and healer also

stable shore
#

alliance raid is what i tagged in rn

#

not dungeons

#

i only have dungeons and raids left to do, but i guess it takes too long to be worth it

faint mauve
#

what time isit now where you are

#

prime time helps

#

if queue too long then just try again later

#

if your queuing alliance raid like at 2 am i'd go to bed instead omegalul

stable shore
#

5am rn

faint mauve
#

theres your answer

stable shore
#

so i just did the level up roulette

#

do i bother trying dungeon roulette again or just go do my own stuff ?

faint mauve
#

each roulette you do just once

#

because you get a bonus exp from the roulette

#

5 am i think its gonna reset soon for the next day anyway

#

50 60 70 roulette is still worth doing also , the exp bonus isnt as much as leveling but you can expect 1 - 1.5 million

#

doing your highest level dungeon is a thing but queueing for it might take forever

#

you'd need to open a party finder to find 3 ppl to go with you

stable shore
#

okay i did dungeons

#

i only have raids left to do

#

but i think i'm not gonna do it

placid yarrow
simple needle
#

Is this becos of the introduction of transfigured skill gems

simple needle
#

We have yet to see the transfigured versions

viral galleon
#

It's because a lot of gems had their quality effect improved

junior oyster
#

Maybe not a lot but probably a bit more than what they are worth now

#

gemcutters*

warped wren
#

The difference will be significant at least on leaguestart

#

Even earlier, GCPs would be worth at least 1.2-1.5c on day 1-2

#

Now I wouldn't be shocked to see their value triple

#

20 quality on a lot of base gems is bananas now

viral galleon
#

yeah

#

also lab runners this league will be huge, since you can only get the transfigured gems in map lab, and they moved the gem xp reward from incursion over to map lab

waxen sonnet
#

I do like lab. I'm weird

viral galleon
#

im thinking of doing a lab runner build only because i haven't done it before and i really want to see these new gems

twilit mountain
#

I'm just gonna consult the labbers in the one PoE community I'm in to see if they'll do some ferrying for me monkaLaugh

placid yarrow
#

kinda sad they tied it to lab, but atleast it's something i can just buy and not like the helm enchant services now

rugged island
#

what day is poe league

placid yarrow
#

friday ?

#

idk

junior oyster
simple needle
#

Oh god it's live action

waxen sonnet
#

Yup

simple needle
#

The last of us trailer had me knowing it's good instantly, this , this idk

waxen sonnet
#

Yeah idk what to think.

simple needle
#

It's lacking in 1950s retro style

tawny sand
#

the ghoul makeup is pretty good at least

#

but fallout is kind of boring so i'll pass

junior oyster
#

I'm somewhat interested.

junior oyster
#

Sorry I don't click on these kind of links

tawny sand
#

idc

stable shore
#

ff14 bros, you know the blacksmith in shadowbringer final area that gives you a entire free gear when you complete his quest ?

#

if i bring my reaper to 80, will i unlock a free reaper set too or it was a one time use for my samurai ?

tawny sand
#

i don't remember that quest, but i would think it's a one time use

viral galleon
#

oh shit nvm, you can get transfigured gems from any lab

#

just the map lab gives you 2 uses of the font

warped wren
viral galleon
#

ziggyd's q+a with the devs

shadow sundial
#

shit's getting real in here

#

96.6% cast freq mod, 94% armor DR

#

that is... a lot of health. i cant even see how many trillion hp they have because the bar doesnt display numbers out that far

#

some number of hundreds of trillions? quadrillions maybe?

copper pawn
#

Darn, those are quite some d3 level of stats

shadow sundial
#

aight that last level took like half an hour. i gotta surrender here

#

came in at almost a quintillion damage

#

that was with a way underlevelled skill tree on the pally too

warped wren
#

I have come to realize that very few characters have decent abilities

#

Barb, Assassin, DK, Necro, Houndmaster, Elementalist are IMO the only decent ones

#

All the others tend to either force you into stupid positions, or take too long to scale up

modest sentinel
warped wren
#

Same problem with Pally, you have to be in a specific area when the blessing spawns

#

Very problematic

tame dome
#

Think pally was slighty buffed recently as you still get some charge even if you're not in the circle. Still definetily needs a rework for higher corruption levels.

placid yarrow
#

@stable shore omegalul

stable shore
#

he just didn't have a trained eye

#

atisse being a man never fooled me

#

and now he will begin his quest to heal his balls omegalul

#

(litteraly, that will be his plot line for a dozens of chapter)

placid yarrow
#

Yeah I remember it, it's great

stable shore
#

zenos is the fucking goat

#

bro defeated this cringelord edilibus without his op body and killed his father

#

what a chad

#

edilibus actually acted cocky and revealed him all his secrets only to be forced to flee

near hedge
near hedge
#

welp after like 2 hours of fucking around, finally came up with a better hud layout

lethal bane
#

What's the music?

#

Why isn't it Bitches Brew by Miles Davis?

eternal sky
#

1200 songs LOGIN

lethal bane
#

Idk why but there'a a lot of what I expected on there

shadow sundial
#

Grammar nazi says: title should read โ€œSongs to which I bang your momโ€

waxen sonnet
#

That reminds of of a family guy joke lol. "omg, can they really say bang your mom on TV"?

copper pawn
#

heard poe this league will be a complete meta shakeup, how viable to play without trade and also without buying any additional stash and only stick with 1 build?

warped wren
#

You can always play SSF

#

And there's definitely 1 build only playstyles available

#

But I would always recommend having at least a few specific tabs

#

Map, currency and a quad for sure

waxen sonnet
#

You can't play really without purchasing some tabs. It's unfortunate but you just kinda can't

copper pawn
#

what's the minimum number of tabs and how much will that be? so I at least can consider poe as some kind of pay 2 play game

waxen sonnet
#

Wait till they have a stash tab sale. I think you can get most of what you need for like 20 or 30 bucks?

faint mauve
#

yeah pretty much

#

you can get away with no stash tabs at all if your playing ruthless since you'll never see 500 chaos orbs

waxen sonnet
#

One quad, all the league specific ones. Currency

faint mauve
#

but 20 - 30 bucks is tbh a lower barrier for entry to get some stash tabs

#

even today i only use two small stash tabs for trade

waxen sonnet
#

Yeah true. You don't NEED a quad

#

It's just nice

faint mauve
#

my gem stash at least shows some use in ruthless

waxen sonnet
#

Gem stash is really nice for sure

faint mauve
#

i just set my gem stash to 1 chance / 1 alch and just put all my dupes in there

#

easy sales operation and undercuts all the competition by default lol

faint mauve
#

you can simply play trade and not engage so much with it

eternal sky
#

earthshatter is going to be goated

#

zerker login

faint mauve
#

kinda waiting for pob to be updated so i can test abit

waxen sonnet
#

I really hope I'm gonna have time to play it

eternal sky
#

pob aint getting updated

#

for

#

a

#

very

#

long time

#

like there is going to be soo much to add into pob

waxen sonnet
#

Is it really 100 all new gems?

faint mauve
#

i guess, ill probably run boneshit or go guardian zombies/skellies

#

for ruthless

eternal sky
#

idk

#

it sucks

#

i wanna do earthshatter

#

but

#

bow char is op

waxen sonnet
#

Bow PF sounds fire

faint mauve
#

isnt bow only good in the sc trade zoom zoom currency meta

#

its otherwise a glass cannon

eternal sky
#

no

#

bow is just good in general now

faint mauve
#

i dont think its highly represented in hc ladder

#

not as high as sc

eternal sky
#

yea because defense meta sucks

#

if u dont have determ

#

u need phys taken as

faint mauve
#

yeh phys to fire

eternal sky
#

on every piece you can get it on

faint mauve
#

etc

copper pawn
eternal sky
#

bro

#

not

#

lower

#

20$ is piss

#

for a game like poe

waxen sonnet
#

These guys know better than i do keika

faint mauve
#

just buy currency tab, then map tab if you plan to go far

waxen sonnet
#

I'm going off memory, I haven't bought tabs in forever

faint mauve
#

then a trade tab

#

you should be done

eternal sky
#

for 20$ you can get curr upgrade the free tab you get from the first blood pack

#

the curr tab

#

map tab

#

and ur set

#

to start

#

and i think thats still has coins leftover?

faint mauve
#

yah

#

get a supporter pack instead of buying straight coins

#

or first blood thing if it still exists been awhile

eternal sky
#

yea it still does

#

ggg W

faint mauve
#

also every 3 weeks GGG always do a stash sales

#

its always at a set period

#

its not random

#

if your patient enough you'll get the sales in a few weeks

eternal sky
#

they might just enable it at league start

#

anyways

faint mauve
#

you can still arrange your currency neatly on the default stash tabs anyway its just like d2

#

i'd arrange them in corners etc

eternal sky
shadow sundial
#

i cant see the bundle price because i already bought both, but even at full price they're still cheap and worth it ๐Ÿ™‚

viral galleon
#

I was really deep into dmd when ggg announced wasd movement for poe 2 so I'm excited to see how that turns out

eternal sky
#

Updated note for Earthshatter:

Old:
Quality now causes the skill to Create +0-1 fissure, instead of providing 0-10% increased Area of Effect.
New:
Quality now causes the skill to Create +0-1 fissure and provides +0-3 Maximum Spikes, instead of providing 0-10% increased Area of Effect.

#

@faint mauve guard statue is now nerfed by 50%

#

in ruthless

faint mauve
#

necro summoner i can always go back to but pretty sure guardian is still better

#

oh i saw it now KEK

#

guardian was overrepresented in ruthless, kripp / playlife also started with it, almost all paid the price since it couldnt do ubers lol

shadow sundial
#

i think i have taken this broken ass paladin build to the next level. i went for the 7th skill slot. doing quad auras (added armor shred). this shit is gonna be crazy.

hardy crane
#

finally completed my first run ๐Ÿ™‚

#

Mayhem was a very good early get lol

shadow sundial
#

yay! and damn, nice tier on that mayhem

hardy crane
#

I'd just walk around and let my Ravens kill shit to stack it up

#

lol

rugged island
#

nice

#

my mayhem record is 1400% ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

viral galleon
#

Mayhem is pretty insane

warped wren
#

DMD needs more storage space

weary yacht
#

I think i wanna try out ultimatum

#

Mapping is pretty cool i like

#

But not sure how hard it scales and how well it works with MF

maiden widget
#

well they said the mobs dont drop anything so i assume not an MFers mechanic

warped wren
#

but it would probably scale with Deli I guess?

#

so you could still amp it?

#

but you can't do hobo tissue MF for sure, Ultimatum was scary af even before the rare mob changes, it'd absolutely shank now

weary yacht
#

Yea maybe it works better with deli

warped wren
#

I'm just seesawing between PF vs Deadeye for starter

eternal sky
weary yacht
eternal sky
stable shore
#

need pob

#

i want to theory craft

#

hopefully ggg gave the data in advance so they actually had time to work on it

eternal sky
#

holy

#

soo many of those are insane

#

thats nuts

warped wren
#

Cold Snap of Power is far and away the craziest gem I've seen

#

it is batshit insane

eternal sky
#

yea

#

legit was just going to

#

its soo fucked

#

like

#

what

#

are

#

those

#

base stats?

#

LIKE HUAAA??

#

3 2 0 % 1 0 % crit

#

also like

#

u just use unearth

#

with chain reaction dd

#

its fucked

waxen sonnet
#

@eternal sky can I league start with divine ire?

eternal sky
#

bad skill

#

if im being honest

waxen sonnet
#

I thought I read it got improved for affliction.

eternal sky
#

not really

#

and like

#

there are soo many

#

other builds

#

that arej ust better then that

#

lol

waxen sonnet
#

I was just curious honestly. Never played it becore

#

If I do play I'll probably still do something PF but

faint mauve
#

im probably gonna just boneshatter again

eternal sky
#

god it must be miserable being a ruthless player

#

same build every league

faint mauve
#

not at all, i just want to push melee for ruthless

#

and it looks like theres gonna be some differences so its not going to be the exact same problems to work with

eternal sky
#

its still boneshatter

faint mauve
#

some differences with the new league stuff

eternal sky
#

sadly still boneshatter xdd

faint mauve
#

ruthless builds are not the same as the SC non ruth meta so i dunno what your saying there

eternal sky
#

ruthless builds are garbage

#

there is actually 3 builds

#

srs

#

la

#

and boneshatter

faint mauve
#

you serious ? haha

eternal sky
#

your week 1 meta

#

srs

#

la

#

boneshatter

#

thats ur entire meta in ruthless

faint mauve
#

0.7 % ?

eternal sky
faint mauve
#

i dont know where you pulling your numbers from

eternal sky
#

there is 1000 characters

#

u dont look on ninja?

faint mauve
#

nope, i got my build on ninja

#

but we have our own ruthless discord

#

ice spear was used for ubers in ruthless, theres also deadeye ballista

eternal sky
#

deadeye ballista is just tornadoshot/LA

#

with ballista

faint mauve
#

slaughterlord is my character

eternal sky
#

yea thats miserable

faint mauve
#

sorry pal but playing SC trade and killing ubers in week 1 is not exactly a high bar either

eternal sky
#

sorry pal but playing ruthless and doing nothing is wild

faint mauve
#

but yes build diversity is better in non ruth

eternal sky
#

like boneshatter has to be miserable

faint mauve
#

but there are still many builds and not 3 builds being used for all

#

so your pulling numbers out of your ass haha

eternal sky
#

except im not

#

week 1 meta is the meta

#

latest snap shot could mean less ngl

faint mauve
#

there is no week 1 meta in ruthless what are you talking about

eternal sky
#

there is though?

faint mauve
#

everyone was still progressing through maps in week 2

eternal sky
#

thats what you think

faint mauve
#

you need an actual strategy to sustain

eternal sky
#

boneshatter lightning arrow srs

faint mauve
#

i'm well informed of the successes of ruthless players and no one had 4 voidstones for the first month

#

week 1 even the no lifers are still progressing

eternal sky
#

yea but the meta is still there

#

even latest snapshot its srs light arrow tornado shot

#

with boneshatter falling off slightly

faint mauve
#

alot of builds did not reach far this time

#

its not counted in week 1

eternal sky
#

alot of builds are just bad and thats why they didnt reach that time

#

thats why i filtered from 76 to 90 there

faint mauve
#

alot of the builds had to be built around the drops from the first few weeks

#

trade is very limited in week 1 because of how useful alch orbs are

#

which is the main currency

eternal sky
#

soo yea idk

faint mauve
#

and please, its not like you play ruthless for you to know

eternal sky
#

you dont need to play ruthless

#

you look on poe ninja filter some things

#

and you just find the best possible builds for ruthless

#

also the meta of

#

farming for 3 months

#

to build a char to be able to do ubers

#

makes me cringe internally

#

you got like what 5 guys or smth able to do ubers in ruthless?

#

looks like 2 icespear guys

faint mauve
#

think less than 20 this time around

#

life did icespear, playlife didnt manage in hcssf

eternal sky
#

i highly doubt the 92 slayer is doing ubers

#

soo the meta is just play boneshatter la or srs for 3 months farm out a set of icespear gear to finally do ubers Aware

faint mauve
#

ubers is meant to be aspirational content anyway, but this league especially was harder than before

#

3 months farm is an exaggeration of course

#

but the league is 3 months for a reason so ppl have the choice to do that if they really want to

#

its only either ruthless or hc for me so im also a very different poe player than you

eternal sky
#

atleast play normal hc

#

ruthless is miserable ngl

#

hardstuck dogshit dps forever

faint mauve
#

its not, its just a harder game full stop

waxen sonnet
faint mauve
#

without benchcrafting you are much more nerfed

eternal sky
#

it just takes more time and its meant for you to not do the content

faint mauve
#

see this is where the misinfo lies

#

ppl say its just grindier not harder

#

ignoring the fact that benchcraft dont even exist

#

you cannot do phys to fire conversion

#

at least not in the non ruth way

eternal sky
#

i mean thats why boneshatter is meta

#

it has armor scaling baseline

faint mauve
#

boneshatter is not meta what are you saying dude

eternal sky
#

it is though?

#

majority of the highest dps builds

#

are boneshatter

faint mauve
#

i was the no.1 boneshatter on ladder this ruthless trade league

eternal sky
#

there is alot of just

#

boneshatters sitting there

#

and yes yes bro

#

guardian srs

faint mauve
#

i know these players, no alot of them didnt take boneshatter as far

#

the guy at the top is one of them who did icespear ubers

eternal sky
#

because boneshatter sucks xdd but u need to play it because its one of the 3 leaguestart builds that work in ruthless

#

like it literally just looks like

faint mauve
#

thats part of the incentive to do boneshatter , but this time taking it further for me

eternal sky
#

everyone swapped to SRS as the next best thing

#

since boneshatter doesnt scale enough

faint mauve
#

i'm not looking for the highest deeps build to do ubers in week 1 sc

eternal sky
#

me either

#

but i think having under 5 mil dps

#

is miserable

#

10mil is playing the game comfy

faint mauve
#

just git gud ?

#

theres a player who did maven in ruthless with 400k dps

eternal sky
#

idk if getting good is sitting beside a rare mob hitting it for 5% of its life per hit

#

yea thats miserable

faint mauve
#

no thats skill

eternal sky
#

it really isnt

faint mauve
#

carn doing ubers with boneshatter, thats skill

#

not miserable

eternal sky
#

yea because he does damage

faint mauve
#

the effective dps on melee is much much else than you think

eternal sky
#

yea bro

#

as maven tps away from you

faint mauve
#

especially on pinnacles

eternal sky
#

as u have no totems

#

no rage

#

ik how melee works

#

its the issue of

#

borrowed power

#

thats all what melee is

#

without totems rage bersek melee is crine

faint mauve
#

soooooo what about him doing damage and effective dps on melee do you not understand

#

you said you do

eternal sky
#

also ben did sirus on a 0 link boneshatter

faint mauve
#

because player skill is something that can still be applied

#

it takes time

#

and practice

eternal sky
#

or you know

#

ignore all that

#

farm on a dogshit build for ages

#

pop out a build that can actually do the fights

#

because they dont last 30 mins

faint mauve
#

its what you do in hc also

eternal sky
#

nah in hc you just loadup dd ele

#

and do ubers in like 30 hours

faint mauve
#

again a broad generalization

mossy thorn
eternal sky
#

idk what that is

#

i play 10+ builds a league

mossy thorn
#

(funny how reductionism works)

faint mauve
#

you run an OP build in sc, you make divines and be rich

eternal sky
#

and yea you legit just go

#

bow char

#

LA

#

into TS

faint mauve
#

because its not a challenge anymore

mossy thorn
eternal sky
#

infinite invest ceiling technically

waxen sonnet
#

You can say a lot about gav, but you can't say he doesn't play the shit out of each and every league

faint mauve
#

anyway you do know what you are saying sometimes, but you also pull data out of your ass

#

ill give him that at least

#

its a tired old trope with sc players hating on hc and ruthless

waxen sonnet
#

Who fucking cares. Just play how you want. Jfc

faint mauve
#

i dont think ruthless is necessarily better than hc trade / ssf , its just a very different experience altogether

eternal sky
#

idk the experience in ruthless really feels like

waxen sonnet
#

Not saying you specifically hellen

eternal sky
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your char is permanently shit

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no matter what you do

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you can farm all you want you're just playing a worse version of an already meta build

faint mauve
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i dunno why you are comparing to non ruth at all

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anyway. maybe one day you'll try it , maybe you wont and do what you always do

eternal sky
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idk i think im fine not being forced to play LA SRS or Boneshatter ngl

faint mauve
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maybe you'll even play hc and see how far you can go

eternal sky
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ive played gauntlet

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got to lvl 85

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didnt play ssf

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didnt play hc before that

faint mauve
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LA srs or boneshit is not top 3

eternal sky
faint mauve
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anyway ...... whatever

eternal sky
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it is the top 3 by far week 1

faint mauve
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do i have to drill to your head week 1 doesnt exist in ruthless

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everyone is still progressing

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in maps

waxen sonnet
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Can you play ruthless SC?

faint mauve
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yeh thats what i play

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it was gonna be hc trade or ruth sc

eternal sky
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also its still srs and LA just boneshatter falls off

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at week 4

waxen sonnet
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So ruthless sc ssf?

faint mauve
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ruth trade

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but ruth trade is basically ssf for the first few weeks

waxen sonnet
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Gotcha. Makes sense

faint mauve
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you need orb of alchemy also its the strongest currency lol

waxen sonnet
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Right. Also makes sense

faint mauve
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so you cant just use your orb of alchemy to buy something good and go broke, and then you have nothing to make your yellow maps rare for atlas points

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you need an actual strategy this time to sustain maps

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this doesnt exist in normal poe, it did back in 2014 ?

waxen sonnet
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I remember when alchs and then gcp were primary currency

faint mauve
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yah you need an actual plan

waxen sonnet
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Back when gems weren't all available from the one chick

faint mauve
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and getting to red maps feels good

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getting your two stones feels good and you would have worked hard

waxen sonnet
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I can see the appeal for sure

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I just def don't have the time to invest.

eternal sky
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like when i played gauntlet

faint mauve
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yeh i get it , i still put in the same time i do normally

eternal sky
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it was just playing safe

faint mauve
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400 hours is my char

eternal sky
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eventually got lazy and ate baran mob multishot

faint mauve
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my boneshatter went to level 93 ruth which is past lvl 100

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and this is without 5 ways cheesing

waxen sonnet
faint mauve
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it doesnt exist

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so i play with the same philosophy and approach in HC

warped wren
waxen sonnet
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Haha. Sweet!

faint mauve
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yah thats a good thing

eternal sky
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thats what you think

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and then you remember its all tutorial showcases

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tohoneypot new players in

waxen sonnet
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Honestly idk if I'm gonna go back to Poe if Poe 2 is looking as good as i think it is

eternal sky
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and show off assets