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too offtopic even for #๐โoff-topic , yooooo
I mean, let's not pretend US cares about international IP laws and shit, they just want to keep china backward and that's it
China hates the US and is the main competitor to US on a global stage.. why would the US want to help them
Makes sense to me
british empire tried that to US back then too, but failed
The CCP is also fundamentally opposed to western democracy on an idealology level
I never say US should allow china to import tech from them, I just point out that cpu/gpu prices would have been much cheaper if china has the tech
regardless how how they got the tech
They also cut corners and the market would be flooded with junk. There is literally no top brand for any computer part that comes out of China. The best stuff is either American or Taiwanese. For any part.
Japan and SK get notable mentions
But Taiwan is where it's at
And Japan respects international law and doesn't steal trade secrets
So they get to play with everyone else
As does the EU
totally unrelated
Europe is quite lagging behind on the tech industry in a global scale though.
Asia and North America dominate it
Germany by itself is probably 80% of European technology industry
got nothing to do with international laws, they are just the biggest player in semiconductor chemical industry, literally monopolize the manufacture, same as ASML dominates UV lithography machine
in a sense, if japan and netherland shake hand together, even the US is fucked with semiconductor sector
lol as long as ther dollar is the world's main economy, any nation is more fucked by not trading with the US than the other way aroudn
it won't always be that way but that's how it is today
it really depends on which industry
take car consumption for example, china is much more impossible to lose as a consumer market than US, the German brands know this the best
even apple, this year they suffer huge sale loss for ip15, and instead of say fuck china, they say fuck sleepy joe instead
in the end, it's all about what can a country offer to be the leader, US has the most tech, thus usd is strong, and totally understandable that it cannot allow china to take away the only thing that backs up usd
Not just tech. It's also the scale of the US economy and the fact it's not volatile https://www.commercetrustcompany.com/news-and-insights/2023/us-dollar-role-in-global-economy
Can also factor in oil buying/selling done in USD, as well as reserve currency held
The only two other currencies that come close are yuan and euro and both offer much less than the dollar does
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/the-international-role-of-the-u-s-dollar-20211006.html its a fun topic
it's the tech that gives US such economic scale, then vice versa, a good cycle
oil is no longer dominated by USD though, even the arab countries are selling oil and LNG to china using yuan, can also say that very soon petrodollar era will end, but tech dollar will of course be strong for much longer
as positive as me, I can't see china catching up to core techs in the next 50y, even 1 of the most important core tech which is material science, they are still behind russia, not mentioning US
but never say never, if british empire managed to fuck up its leader position, so can the US, or any future leader after the US
well yeah
no empire is forever
but for now and the forseeable future it doesnt look like it will change
I wouldn't dare to say foreseable future, from the great depression in late 1920s, most people back then could never imagine in just within 15y, US would topple british empire, and 15y is honestly very short
yo this is for real. first time using it. got to 90% DR from armor haha

damn
never used that ability
this would be crazy good on Legionnaire
yeah man. i was trying to make Arcane Shield work, but it doesnt scale well (and it gets negative mods from increasing map levels)
much better to just mitigate the damage up front
leveling my death knight and i took this as a mastery rune and it's niiiice
i also took the War Tank rune (50% more block, but -1 dash) cuz... death knight
The british just got bored of ruling more then half the world truly
After ww2 they were sick of it

why they fight over the falklands then
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the dozens of mutinies, rebellions and freedom struggles that were erupting across the colonies

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Thanks!
this scaling is no joke
very deadly death knight
i have discovered that dashing is overrated. especially when your movespeed is faster than dash anyway. and getting the +3000 body mass stat on the DK means no knockback from stupid meteors ๐
the enemy attack speed scaling gets crazy. you basically have no time to react to the telegraphs
hmmm
I should level my DK then
the problem with some of the classes is how their special abilities either take too long to scale, like Legionnaire, or force you to move towards shitty areas, like Beastmaster
i dont even need the DK's ascension for this shiz
saw this on one of the DKs weapons and i was like yessssssssss... power overwhelming
i'm at 93% armor mitigation and 75% block chance atm ๐
Any skill that multiplies damage based on number of stacks of an ailment becomes OP by default
In fact I think it's the only sensible way to push max curse stuff
stacks and stacks
Damn Poe 2 will have wasd movement support
i think i need to just surrender at this point, i dont have all day
New league looking good
that's a hard pass. just surrendered
apparently you can tank ridiculous amounts of damage when you get your DR to 93%
over half a quadrillion damage done by me
Yeeeeeaaaass chaos head guy is baaack!!!!
2h sword trap... man they're running out of ideas
Seems trash
Its good
why not a trap that spawns other traps. recursive traps. each one does progressively larger damage. biggest one swings around a 3-handed sword!
Its for voidforge/starforge stuff
And big impale 2h swords
So basically super expensive builds
As always
It pisses me off that I can't play poe offline
Would love to try out all these builds at my own pace
Wdym
I mean spawning the items I want lool
You can't craft a mb
Either way I'd rather have an offline mode to play
When and if on the rare occasion I do play le I always play offline
Oh well I guess I can always enjoy someone else playing the awesome builds
An NPC from nioh 1 and her katana https://images.app.goo.gl/WBpYUh8VyhwKoXHa7
Found on Google from ebay.com
One of my favorite katanas from nioh 2. Not home so not a screenshot but https://images.app.goo.gl/FUZdh8BuNGE7mN8X7
@stable shore
So many cool weapons types too
Bruh i want to end my fcking life, as if boneshatter wasn't op enough it now has 1% more damage per trauma quality
Switchglaive ๐ https://images.app.goo.gl/krQdvJnGzmnixua98
And berserk lost attack dmg for cooldown recovery
hum, i think it would look better with a longer handle
Well it functions such that it wouldn't work with a longer handle. It has two forms
Think switchaxe
oh, i see
about path of exile
i think i'm gonna have 1.5B dps next patch 
there is ONE buff that is absolutely poggers for me
Fucking standard lol
Yeah that's a huge change
it's gonna get 2 extra spikes and 50% damage effectiveness
i might even reach 1.7B idk
who knows
it's gonna be filthy
i might go back to poe and play ssf at some point
there are so many huge melee buff
I do love melee
That's gonna be nice for the hollow palm people too
also this now brings me to 110% chance to deal double damage
but that's overkill and perforate will be better after
ggg cooked, after all these years we finally get the long awaited buff to underused skill
Holy shit. Biiiiiiiig nerfs
nobody said the path of EXILE is an easy one to walk
The Ranger and Scion have received audio dialogue for Part Two of Path of Exile.
YOOOO biggest patch notes
Animate Guardian:
No longer has 0-76% increased Minion Maximum Life, Minions deal 0-76% increased Physical Damage with Melee Attacks, or causes Minion's Attacks to deal additional Physical Damage. It now has 0% more Minion Maximum Life and more Minion Damage at gem level 1, both scaling up to 38% at gem level 20. Animated Guardians now have roughly 11% more base Life inherently, and now have 2 to 6 added Physical Damage while Unarmed.
punch guardian?
yo, anything new with poe2?
trailer featuring Crossbows
which are basically guns
looked quite fun tbh

how do i level up quickly from 70 to 80 in ff14 ?
i'm thinking i could level up the reaper to see how well it does at 80
alliance raid roulette, leveling roulette, trial roulette
main scenario roulette
those 4 are the best sources, then followed by 50 60 70 dungeons, normal raid (least). all still good to do daily
wondrous tale submission weekly for 50% exp
main scenario roulette is solo ?
no 4 ppl, but main scenario is the most exp per minute on the roulette
hum i'll do that then
then leveling roulette and trial roulette
can i have npc or i gotta play with other ?
aka you do most of them everyday
just not levequest roulette
play with others, npcs too slow
once you do all those, then there are other sources of exp
depending on queues the fastest is to spam the highest lvl dungeon you have unlocked. they nerfed the exp from deep dungeon so thats a bust now
pvp gives decent exp, and its basically an instant queue now. fate farming is garbage now. leves are a waste unless youre doing crafters and even then its a wash. eureka is okaayy, but its still way slower than doing dungeons. however any of the dungeons at 50,60,70,80 give fuckall exp. so those arent exactly worth it imo.
yeee. roulettes are 2 levels a day
eureka doesnt give exp
bozja does
bozja exp probably the single best source for 80 - 90 outside of roulettes
ye i usually just bunch those together when i say eureka
on top of earning millions of gil in a short time
bozja encounters are harder than your normal dungeons
and the raids too
generally the bozja enjoyers are decent at least
once you unlock bozja raids theres another weekly quest added to your list
how easy is it to solo all of that stuff. bozja is one thing i never touched
you can solo fates yourself, and also make a build to farm solo effectively
yes there's build setups in bozja and eureka
tanks can apply a buff to boost 60% damage, dps roles can gain mitigation + hp etc
so you can take the role of 2 classes in 1
but critical engagements solo you need to be really good to pull it off
oh that sounds pretty cool
yeah its great, a zone where you just concentrate on killing shit and getting rare loot
i can understand endwalker not doing another conflict zone since they did eureka/bozja, and i guess our end game is like a holiday post adventure thing
dawntrail will have another conflict zone apparently
i mean island sanctuary was their form of it this expansion
all they said was "life style content" whatever the fuck that means. jp fanfest is here soon so hopefully they go over it a little then
this is how you modify your loadout, all of them come from different sources within
so the grind is pretty long and varied lol
about daily stuff
is there a limit ?
once a day on each
okay, once all of that is done i move to dungeons ?
if i were to rank exp per minute its MSQ,leveling,trial as top 3
yeah after you do it once you dont get the bonus
yupp, move over to your highest unlocked one
fuck this is gonna take so long to get back up to 80
my reaper is 71
sigh
let"s get to work
you can do it lol
and dont forget to eat
black mage is next in my list , i probably never want to do warrior cause unethical
if i remember right its like 6 runs to get a level at that point
i experienced 3 hours queue already
each one at like 20 minutes
holy fuck, reaper at level 50 is 4 skills
lol youre lucky. healers its 2
reaper isn't an actual build until minimum level 80
i rarely do roulettes now since i normally cap my comedy tomes from A hunt trains
if i do them its trial/normal for second chance points
bozja raids more important since i can make millions out of a single raid if i get good loot
and 3 million exp haha
dps classes have longer queues on dungeons anyway
i can't wait for it to fill up a bit though
healer/tank have priority
dps classes queue better for trial/normal/alliance raids
my two cents is just take it slow so you dont burn out
if you really want to engage in savage raiding then join a static doing legacy raids
they expanded the crossbow showcase they had a while ago. crossbows will grant you a skill, then you have free reservation gems that add affects to the crossbow depending on what they are. they have a rapid fire crossbow, shotgun crossbow, and sniper crossbow types they showed off. in addition, the "offhand" for crossbows will have undermounted grenade launchers, and again the type of mount will determine what the grenade does, like flash bangs are big stuns, or oil grenades create oil on the ground that slows enemies and catches fire.
in addition, some skills are now able to be used while you are moving, though they do slow your character. its at least better than having to stand still. and they added wasd movement as an option because crossbows basically are like "twin stick shooter" builds.
I heard poe2 has wasd movement, that shit is great
its fully optional, you can play with kbm as you currently can or play wasd
we'll see how it works with builds other than bows/crossbows
also that boss fight
where she cleaves a fetus out called the unwanted

holy frugg
also all the combos with the crossbow is sick

i'm gonna do ruthless again next league, lol
yeh hrishi must have heard my wishes for slight boost to currency drops so im very keen for ruthless round 2 lol
just gotta figure out what build to make
anyone play totem build in slormancer? idk what it scales with, so unclear, unlike LE
Gav how good/bad is srs popcorn (before I go to poison) this league?
Also I lowkey wanna try doing SSF
Goguard if ssf
Big sent guy go brrf
Also bow build is an option
Tornado shot is just op
And gets 4proj baseline now
Bows in such a good state
The Lightning arrow qual is huge
But yea id recc bow deadeye
Super fast from the get go
I might just go LA + Arty ballista again
Why not necro as poison necro?
Oh yea you said ssf
Fair point
Would that mean I go lightning srs at some point then?
have to wait 6 months tilll poe2, so long
Lol noob
bloodlust + scent of blood = absolutely ridiculous cooldown
even my "long" recast skills are hitting like a machine gun haha
@twilit mountain @stable shore melee Duelist recs?
Reject melee, embrace Steel
Steel what
Shatterin, Lancing, Splitting, your pick
Are they at least pseudomelee?
Not really. They're projectiles mostly. I think Shattering can be real close range though
not leaguestart, but late game Rakiata's Molten Strike is pretty insane
Champion obviously
also Slayer Boneshatter would still work probably
Boneshatter got more damage per trauma so I think that's a buff for anyone who didn't go into alt qual investment?
I hope rakiatas stays. I want to do my rakiatas wild strike ranger
Pretty sure it's confirmed to stay
I did do Boneshatter Jugg for a bit
Sweet
It stays
Core drop pool
Also they literally made Wild Strike worse
It's a very cool weapon I agree
How? That's like impossible
I only use it because I love it, not because it's good haha
The base quality now gives chance to freeze/ignite/shock rather than LE damage

Alt qual?
No idea about Transfigured gems yet
Ah ok. Still hope
Except the ones they've specifically showcased
Who uses WS for ailments lol
Who uses WS for ailments lol
Ftfy
Also I wonder if FB is just dead in the water now
I use it!! Haha
With rakiatas you can get decent damage. Although tbf that's more because of the weapon, not the skill ๐
Why?
It's giving you more projectiles as base quality now
Early game buff, late game mega nerf if the alt qual attack speed per trauma version is gone
It's entire late game scaling is basically that alt quality
shield bash doing some work on my assassin. assassin with a shield, you say? uh sure, why not!
main gauche ofc
I guess this depends on your goals. I've seen plenty of people handle everything below ubers without using the alt qual.
Yeah that's why I said late game. Having a build be Uber viable, even if you don't actually do them, enables the ability to do a ton of other high end stuff
I am gonna have to fundamentally disagree with your perception of what late game means then
Sure you could probably still do your Harvest / Guardian farm / Essences / whatever pretty easily
Personally I wouldn't play Boneshatter into late game anyway, I'd just fall asleep ramping
Heatshiver got destroyed
Although I didn't know about the proj quality. That's huge
ah yes I forgot that thing was Heatshiver abuse
We now have legacy Heatshiver. AND, legacy legacy Heatshiver.
I am just gonna start a very simple TR Ballista PF
safe bet and I have limited time for the first two weeks of launch anyway
by the time I'm able to play it'll be a lot easier to branch into another build if I want
If I end up playing, no clue what I would start with. I'm usually a right side player. Maybe something trickster
Or PF
man dawn of war was a good video game dang, i've been playing soulstorm all day
Recs ?
Frenzy slayer ice bite imo
Melee?
I do like 2H Axes
Lightning Strike Champ is still a thing btw
better clear but significantly worse single target than Molten Strike
We don't speak cringe, only chad melee build
Go away with your not actually melee build

Lightning strike isn't melee
If you call it melee then power siphon is
I'm gonna be a perforate andy but i doubt i can recommand it to you boru, impale melee still sucks overall despite the huge buff perforate got
Clear is giga good though
And it's not clunky at all
Perforate clear doesn't feel good
It does imo
if you really are determined to play impale melee then the "best" option is Boneshatter
Of course it is
or you be a chad like Goratha and go Glacial Hammer Champ
yeah Goratha had a pretty nifty GH setup
I don't know if it's still viable without tattoos
Should be ok
I'm convinced perforate is good now
Not as much as BS in damage but it has better clear at least
Yeah but there is a difference between optimal and doghit
Perforate buff is huge, but i can't confidently recommand it to you
oh sorry it's a GH Jugg
Yet another update, this is my character from day 3-4. I've mostly being doing non-atlas mechanics such as heist, sanctum, and league mechanic.
So not too much footage from maps unfortunately, BUT I am very happy with how the character has been going so far!
As always you can follow along at https://www.twitch.tv/goratha
THE LINKS
Twitter: ...
wait
It's 100% way worse now
Heatshiver died
Tatoo isn't the biggest issue here
Yep maybe not viable anymore at low budget
you could try Impale Dom Blow Champ Boru
it'll get you to reds for sure, just on the strength of the skill alone
but beyond that idk
Tbh impale perforate champ/slayer might be huge
The perks lf the build is spikes overkap
So you get max impale stacks first hit
all runes, weapons, and global skills unlocked!
@warped wren if im being real
caustic arrow pf is giga cruiser
and once you get aseneths it goes crazy
CA Ballista?
nah just self cast CA
just go ballis in chest then have a 6l caustic arrow with arrow nova
in ur lvl scaling bow
*toxic rain ballis
I might do that actually
man this league is going to fuck soo hard
actually soo many new builds to play
GGG W
i somehow talked myself back into playing this again
"just gonna go casual this time. one toon only."
july. shortly after Kayangel came out
Ah I stopped a bit over a month after launch
i was always on the top edge of progression. our guild was a serious GVG contender guild on our server
What is this?
Lost ark
It gets a lot of hate but outside of the honing system it's an amazing game
I will probably try it eventually
the raid content in LA is top notch... and im saying that with 20k+ hours in MMORPG/ARPG
Hopefully the western version eventually gets a honing rework tbh
I'd play again for sure
I put in 400 or so hours in a month into it at launch
I fucking lived it
there's lots of catch up mechanics. i have one even for my level of progression apparently
And then I quit cold turkey because the game was fucking my life up a bit lol
And I hit the brick wall that was Argos at the time
the i1540/1580 tabs there are the two progression tiers (raids) that i just missed from quitting four months ago
But yeah don't play a game for 12 hours a day literally every day for a month
Not good for you
What in the diablo immortal meets weeb is this game?
is this genshin
LA released in... Feb '22 i think? my /played hours in those 17 months are... kind of a lot
Why are you yelling
CAPS IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
Idk I didn't mind the ui tbh lol
Touche. I have no rebuttal
And yeah that's pretty crazy entropy lol
i have a theme for my skins
Almost 6 hours a day average
Tbf it does look like some straight up mobile battle pass shit lol
For almost a year and a half
i went full degen the first two week i played Last Epoch... 140 hours /played in first 14 days
I liked the cosmetics in it tbh, I played in a cow costume at the end
They're silly but fun
woman in bikini, guys with shoulder pauldrons as big as a pickup truck, and a teddy bear suit. bless korean mmos
page two of roster. bikini, since you asked
Yen falcon would be so proud of you
Lol
there's plenty of booba right there man
Now that's real murrican booba right thurr
also, there are way more booba-ish skins. i just went for the ones that i could dye in my Murrica theme (many of them cant be dyed)
Idk I don't want that floating around lol
Probably a good call ๐
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Did Yen die?
maybe it's like d3, worth coming back every season, for a few days
ff14 bros, how long is dps queue time for daily raids roulette in your experience ?
I haven't played in over a year, but mine were like 10 minutes.
Actually no, wait. 2 years.
Start of Endwalker
hum it's been 40 minutes now
i guess it was a bad idea to tag this late in the night
but with all the time i spent in queue it's a waste of time if i quit now
Sunk cost fallacy

maybe but i can't tell if this is the right move or not
which raid
roulette, level 50 ones
didnt i say dps classes queue longer for dungeons
you did
only alliance raid/normal/trial is usually ok for dps
thats why i highly encourage you level a tank, and healer also
alliance raid is what i tagged in rn
not dungeons
i only have dungeons and raids left to do, but i guess it takes too long to be worth it
what time isit now where you are
prime time helps
if queue too long then just try again later
if your queuing alliance raid like at 2 am i'd go to bed instead 
5am rn
theres your answer
so i just did the level up roulette
do i bother trying dungeon roulette again or just go do my own stuff ?
each roulette you do just once
because you get a bonus exp from the roulette
5 am i think its gonna reset soon for the next day anyway
50 60 70 roulette is still worth doing also , the exp bonus isnt as much as leveling but you can expect 1 - 1.5 million
doing your highest level dungeon is a thing but queueing for it might take forever
you'd need to open a party finder to find 3 ppl to go with you
bruh
Is this becos of the introduction of transfigured skill gems
Yes
We have yet to see the transfigured versions
It's because a lot of gems had their quality effect improved
This will raise the price of gemworkers I imagine?
Maybe not a lot but probably a bit more than what they are worth now
gemcutters*
The difference will be significant at least on leaguestart
Even earlier, GCPs would be worth at least 1.2-1.5c on day 1-2
Now I wouldn't be shocked to see their value triple
20 quality on a lot of base gems is bananas now
yeah
also lab runners this league will be huge, since you can only get the transfigured gems in map lab, and they moved the gem xp reward from incursion over to map lab
I do like lab. I'm weird
im thinking of doing a lab runner build only because i haven't done it before and i really want to see these new gems
I'm just gonna consult the labbers in the one PoE community I'm in to see if they'll do some ferrying for me 
kinda sad they tied it to lab, but atleast it's something i can just buy and not like the helm enchant services now
what day is poe league
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Oh god it's live action
Yup
The last of us trailer had me knowing it's good instantly, this , this idk
Yeah idk what to think.
It's lacking in 1950s retro style
I'm somewhat interested.
Sorry I don't click on these kind of links
idc
ff14 bros, you know the blacksmith in shadowbringer final area that gives you a entire free gear when you complete his quest ?
if i bring my reaper to 80, will i unlock a free reaper set too or it was a one time use for my samurai ?
i don't remember that quest, but i would think it's a one time use
oh shit nvm, you can get transfigured gems from any lab
just the map lab gives you 2 uses of the font
Where'd you find that out from?
ziggyd's q+a with the devs
shit's getting real in here
96.6% cast freq mod, 94% armor DR
that is... a lot of health. i cant even see how many trillion hp they have because the bar doesnt display numbers out that far
some number of hundreds of trillions? quadrillions maybe?
Darn, those are quite some d3 level of stats
aight that last level took like half an hour. i gotta surrender here
came in at almost a quintillion damage
that was with a way underlevelled skill tree on the pally too
I have come to realize that very few characters have decent abilities
Barb, Assassin, DK, Necro, Houndmaster, Elementalist are IMO the only decent ones
All the others tend to either force you into stupid positions, or take too long to scale up
What the fuck

Paladin is good as well especially after you unlock few of his skills
Same problem with Pally, you have to be in a specific area when the blessing spawns
Very problematic
Think pally was slighty buffed recently as you still get some charge even if you're not in the circle. Still definetily needs a rework for higher corruption levels.
@stable shore 

he just didn't have a trained eye
atisse being a man never fooled me
and now he will begin his quest to heal his balls 
(litteraly, that will be his plot line for a dozens of chapter)
Yeah I remember it, it's great
zenos is the fucking goat
bro defeated this cringelord edilibus without his op body and killed his father
what a chad
edilibus actually acted cocky and revealed him all his secrets only to be forced to flee

welp after like 2 hours of fucking around, finally came up with a better hud layout
Idk why but there'a a lot of what I expected on there
Grammar nazi says: title should read โSongs to which I bang your momโ
That reminds of of a family guy joke lol. "omg, can they really say bang your mom on TV"?
heard poe this league will be a complete meta shakeup, how viable to play without trade and also without buying any additional stash and only stick with 1 build?
You can always play SSF
And there's definitely 1 build only playstyles available
But I would always recommend having at least a few specific tabs
Map, currency and a quad for sure
You can't play really without purchasing some tabs. It's unfortunate but you just kinda can't
what's the minimum number of tabs and how much will that be? so I at least can consider poe as some kind of pay 2 play game
Wait till they have a stash tab sale. I think you can get most of what you need for like 20 or 30 bucks?
yeah pretty much
you can get away with no stash tabs at all if your playing ruthless since you'll never see 500 chaos orbs
One quad, all the league specific ones. Currency
but 20 - 30 bucks is tbh a lower barrier for entry to get some stash tabs
even today i only use two small stash tabs for trade
my gem stash at least shows some use in ruthless
Gem stash is really nice for sure
i just set my gem stash to 1 chance / 1 alch and just put all my dupes in there
easy sales operation and undercuts all the competition by default lol
you can simply play trade and not engage so much with it
kinda waiting for pob to be updated so i can test abit
I really hope I'm gonna have time to play it
pob aint getting updated
for
a
very
long time
like there is going to be soo much to add into pob
Is it really 100 all new gems?
Bow PF sounds fire
isnt bow only good in the sc trade zoom zoom currency meta
its otherwise a glass cannon
yeh phys to fire
on every piece you can get it on
etc
not lower? like ssf will need to buy how many tabs?
These guys know better than i do keika
just buy currency tab, then map tab if you plan to go far
I'm going off memory, I haven't bought tabs in forever
for 20$ you can get curr upgrade the free tab you get from the first blood pack
the curr tab
map tab
and ur set
to start
and i think thats still has coins leftover?
yah
get a supporter pack instead of buying straight coins
or first blood thing if it still exists been awhile
also every 3 weeks GGG always do a stash sales
its always at a set period
its not random
if your patient enough you'll get the sales in a few weeks
you can still arrange your currency neatly on the default stash tabs anyway its just like d2
i'd arrange them in corners etc
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/36990/Deaths_Soulstone/ two of our recent community enjoyed games here now bundled
i cant see the bundle price because i already bought both, but even at full price they're still cheap and worth it ๐
I was really deep into dmd when ggg announced wasd movement for poe 2 so I'm excited to see how that turns out
Updated note for Earthshatter:
Old:
Quality now causes the skill to Create +0-1 fissure, instead of providing 0-10% increased Area of Effect.
New:
Quality now causes the skill to Create +0-1 fissure and provides +0-3 Maximum Spikes, instead of providing 0-10% increased Area of Effect.
@faint mauve guard statue is now nerfed by 50%
in ruthless
guardian you mean ?
necro summoner i can always go back to but pretty sure guardian is still better
oh i saw it now KEK
guardian was overrepresented in ruthless, kripp / playlife also started with it, almost all paid the price since it couldnt do ubers lol
i think i have taken this broken ass paladin build to the next level. i went for the 7th skill slot. doing quad auras (added armor shred). this shit is gonna be crazy.
yay! and damn, nice tier on that mayhem
Mayhem is pretty insane
I think i wanna try out ultimatum
Mapping is pretty cool i like
But not sure how hard it scales and how well it works with MF
well they said the mobs dont drop anything so i assume not an MFers mechanic
the mobs won't drop loot this time around
but it would probably scale with Deli I guess?
so you could still amp it?
but you can't do hobo tissue MF for sure, Ultimatum was scary af even before the rare mob changes, it'd absolutely shank now
Yea maybe it works better with deli
I'm just seesawing between PF vs Deadeye for starter
Quant only scales catalysts
yea not concerned with IIR and IIQ just the tree investment vs payoff vs difficulty scaling type of thing
need pob
i want to theory craft
hopefully ggg gave the data in advance so they actually had time to work on it
yea
legit was just going to

its soo fucked
like
what
are
those
base stats?
LIKE HUAAA??
3 2 0 % 1 0 % crit

also like
u just use unearth
with chain reaction dd
its fucked
@eternal sky can I league start with divine ire?
I thought I read it got improved for affliction.
not really
and like
there are soo many
other builds
that arej ust better then that
lol
I was just curious honestly. Never played it becore
If I do play I'll probably still do something PF but
im probably gonna just boneshatter again
not at all, i just want to push melee for ruthless
and it looks like theres gonna be some differences so its not going to be the exact same problems to work with
its still boneshatter
some differences with the new league stuff
sadly still boneshatter 
ruthless builds are not the same as the SC non ruth meta so i dunno what your saying there
you serious ? haha
0.7 % ?

i dont know where you pulling your numbers from
nope, i got my build on ninja
but we have our own ruthless discord
ice spear was used for ubers in ruthless, theres also deadeye ballista
yea thats miserable
sorry pal but playing SC trade and killing ubers in week 1 is not exactly a high bar either
sorry pal but playing ruthless and doing nothing is wild
but yes build diversity is better in non ruth
like boneshatter has to be miserable
but there are still many builds and not 3 builds being used for all
so your pulling numbers out of your ass haha
there is no week 1 meta in ruthless what are you talking about
there is though?
everyone was still progressing through maps in week 2
thats what you think
you need an actual strategy to sustain
i'm well informed of the successes of ruthless players and no one had 4 voidstones for the first month
week 1 even the no lifers are still progressing
yea but the meta is still there
even latest snapshot its srs light arrow tornado shot
with boneshatter falling off slightly
alot of builds are just bad and thats why they didnt reach that time
thats why i filtered from 76 to 90 there
alot of the builds had to be built around the drops from the first few weeks
trade is very limited in week 1 because of how useful alch orbs are
which is the main currency
soo yea idk
and please, its not like you play ruthless for you to know
you dont need to play ruthless
you look on poe ninja filter some things
and you just find the best possible builds for ruthless
also the meta of
farming for 3 months
to build a char to be able to do ubers
makes me cringe internally
you got like what 5 guys or smth able to do ubers in ruthless?
looks like 2 icespear guys
think less than 20 this time around
life did icespear, playlife didnt manage in hcssf
i highly doubt the 92 slayer is doing ubers
soo the meta is just play boneshatter la or srs for 3 months farm out a set of icespear gear to finally do ubers 
ubers is meant to be aspirational content anyway, but this league especially was harder than before
3 months farm is an exaggeration of course
but the league is 3 months for a reason so ppl have the choice to do that if they really want to
its only either ruthless or hc for me so im also a very different poe player than you
its not, its just a harder game full stop
I feel like ruthless is miserable, ngl. Ftfy
without benchcrafting you are much more nerfed
it just takes more time and its meant for you to not do the content
see this is where the misinfo lies
ppl say its just grindier not harder
ignoring the fact that benchcraft dont even exist
you cannot do phys to fire conversion
at least not in the non ruth way
boneshatter is not meta what are you saying dude
i was the no.1 boneshatter on ladder this ruthless trade league
i know these players, no alot of them didnt take boneshatter as far
the guy at the top is one of them who did icespear ubers
because boneshatter sucks
but u need to play it because its one of the 3 leaguestart builds that work in ruthless
like it literally just looks like
thats part of the incentive to do boneshatter , but this time taking it further for me
everyone swapped to SRS as the next best thing
since boneshatter doesnt scale enough
i'm not looking for the highest deeps build to do ubers in week 1 sc
me either
but i think having under 5 mil dps
is miserable
10mil is playing the game comfy
idk if getting good is sitting beside a rare mob hitting it for 5% of its life per hit
yea thats miserable
no thats skill
it really isnt
yea because he does damage
the effective dps on melee is much much else than you think
especially on pinnacles
as u have no totems
no rage
ik how melee works
its the issue of
borrowed power
thats all what melee is
without totems rage bersek melee is crine
soooooo what about him doing damage and effective dps on melee do you not understand
you said you do
also ben did sirus on a 0 link boneshatter
because player skill is something that can still be applied
it takes time
and practice
or you know
ignore all that
farm on a dogshit build for ages
pop out a build that can actually do the fights
because they dont last 30 mins

its what you do in hc also
again a broad generalization
It's what you do in SC, do the same content till you have enough divines, buy your build, close your eyes and win
(funny how reductionism works)
you run an OP build in sc, you make divines and be rich
because its not a challenge anymore
You buy 10 builds a league yeah yeah
infinite invest ceiling technically
You can say a lot about gav, but you can't say he doesn't play the shit out of each and every league
anyway you do know what you are saying sometimes, but you also pull data out of your ass
ill give him that at least
its a tired old trope with sc players hating on hc and ruthless
And vice versa tbf.
Who fucking cares. Just play how you want. Jfc
i dont think ruthless is necessarily better than hc trade / ssf , its just a very different experience altogether
idk the experience in ruthless really feels like
Not saying you specifically hellen
your char is permanently shit
no matter what you do
you can farm all you want you're just playing a worse version of an already meta build
i dunno why you are comparing to non ruth at all
anyway. maybe one day you'll try it , maybe you wont and do what you always do
idk i think im fine not being forced to play LA SRS or Boneshatter ngl
maybe you'll even play hc and see how far you can go
LA srs or boneshit is not top 3

anyway ...... whatever
it is the top 3 by far week 1
do i have to drill to your head week 1 doesnt exist in ruthless
everyone is still progressing
in maps
Can you play ruthless SC?
So ruthless sc ssf?
Gotcha. Makes sense
you need orb of alchemy also its the strongest currency lol
Right. Also makes sense
so you cant just use your orb of alchemy to buy something good and go broke, and then you have nothing to make your yellow maps rare for atlas points
you need an actual strategy this time to sustain maps
this doesnt exist in normal poe, it did back in 2014 ?
I remember when alchs and then gcp were primary currency
yah you need an actual plan
Back when gems weren't all available from the one chick
and getting to red maps feels good
getting your two stones feels good and you would have worked hard
like when i played gauntlet
yeh i get it , i still put in the same time i do normally
it was just playing safe
400 hours is my char
eventually got lazy and ate baran mob multishot
my boneshatter went to level 93 ruth which is past lvl 100
and this is without 5 ways cheesing
Yeah maybe in the future, def not right now lol. Btw have they said ruthless for poe2?
Joke's on you, PoE2 is Ruthless 
Haha. Sweet!
yah thats a good thing

thats what you think
and then you remember its all tutorial showcases
tohoneypot new players in
Honestly idk if I'm gonna go back to Poe if Poe 2 is looking as good as i think it is
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