💬┃general

[south moat]

Tbh i've actually only killed 1

[primal abyss]

I think when most people mention or think of pvp its more of "I'm trying to beat you/surpass you" with the intent of not helping their enemy win

[night marten]

nono. me kill you = pvp

me kill you more = better pvp

[south moat]

Not if I kill you faster

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers!

[south moat]

Gm Muffin

[primal abyss]

Good morning Muffin

[main frigate]

? I don't understand why I can't

emmmm it's point exactly

[simple bison]

Being in competition with a playerbase isn't really the same as being in competition vs a single player/team

[simple bison]

Nobody is trying to beat specifically you usually

[main frigate]

Vlad always can explain a thing in a easy way

[willow sentinel]

😂

[simple bison]

Pvp is when you're in a direct competition with another person/team

At least how I see it

[main frigate]

...lol

This is my real idea indeed

[south moat]

Quite sure what Vlad said was a joke

[main frigate]

Not better, it's more intense

[south moat]

No no
It's better
I kill the other player 20 times and don't die?
Great
I die once? literally 0/10 game

[primal abyss]

I mean, some folks enjoy pvp and others pve and sometimes pvpve but that isn't LE's intent

[main frigate]

I don't say it's le's intent

[primal abyss]

I know, just saying in general

[main frigate]

I know pvp/pve, but no idea on pvpve lol

[primal abyss]

Usually in battle royale type games where there is a 3rd element

or even some different game modes, etc

[strange umbra]

ya Fornite is a good example

PvP but also the world is trying to kill you

[primal abyss]

Yeah xD

I'm a huge PvP fan but also enjoy some good ol PvE co-op

[main frigate]

Do sea of thieves is one of them or not?

[simple bison]

Yes

[south moat]

I haven't played any pvp in a while tbh
Oh wait, I did play some counterstrike a while ago
but before that it's mostly been Apex Legends

[simple bison]

The only pvp I play nowadays is league

But honestly league is basically PvE

[main frigate]

Not sure I understand, maybe life will let me understand that later

[strange umbra]

Ya I am not personally a fan of PvP

no shade just not my thing

[main frigate]

My life is follow this logic for 10 years+

Just need to replace gold with scores

[turbid silo]

Happy Monday all 🙂

[primal abyss]

Howdy Derrick and good day

[turbid silo]

Hey hey!

[willow sentinel]

Me praying for some Shaman goodie in 1.5

[south moat]

Shaman was too strong so all totems got nerfed
falcon buffed.

[night marten]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-the-office-hang-up-phone-nope-gif-16554267

[strange umbra]

lol

[night marten]

vlad should be celebrating, we are getting a the 5th paladin skill

[primal abyss]

That should be a gift itself. 😆

[willow sentinel]

It's on Paladin, so it will be good
I have less hope for shaman last skill💀

[severe socket]

Just saying, but BR is a later addition to a primarily PvE game. Which stole the spotlight entirely.

Sorry.

[strange umbra]

? I was just using it as an example of PvPvE

[severe socket]

An example of PvPvE would be AION, imo.

IIRC anyway.

Though, prior to leaving fartnut for good, I did run into a classic PvPvE situation multiple times. Heh.

As in some malicious players were sabotaging the rest of the party in pretty much every way possible, including but not limited to boxing people in and demanding free weapons.

[strange umbra]

they're both examples - I didnt claim Fornite was the original example or anything 🙂

there are many

[severe socket]

Actually, I'm sorry about my outburst, I've missed most of the prior convo. The dialogue loaded from that specific moment.

[wide river]

I started my last epoch journey with shaman and still love this mastery

Hope it will get some love

I can lag out my pc with storm bolts, but I also want them to do some damage 😄

[primal abyss]

Welcome to Last Epoch!

Primalist was my first class, I'm bias. I spec'd to Beastermaster i hope you have fun

Be sure to ask all the questions as there are a lot of folks who would be eager to help

[orchid smelt]

Hi did someone can help me beat aberoth pls I need farm his loot

[primal abyss]

Aah. A good ol Abby fight. I would also check in #👥┃lfg

Just in case!

Surprisngly global chat in-game can sometimes yield some fun results

[severe socket]

My first was a marksman... mistakes were made. -_-

[primal abyss]

Oh?

How long did your first PC last?

[severe socket]

Since it was in full-offline (started around 0.8.x)... Can't exactly recall. Let me boot up and see if she still exists.

[primal abyss]

Haha

No need to do all that but you still have'em around?

[severe socket]

Somehow.

I did clean up a couple of online characters back in the day. Did hit the hard limit of 30 online characters twice after all.

Yeah, she does exist. Amber is her name, and she's an emulation of an eponymous character back from, xcuzme, "genshin".

[primal abyss]

Ah

[severe socket]

Lv78. Deaths: 2 (interestingly).

[primal abyss]

It just hit me...GI came out what feels like forever ago

[severe socket]

Year 2020...

[primal abyss]

6 years?

[severe socket]

Yep.

[primal abyss]

Yeah. Feels longer

[severe socket]

I created my own account on August 6th, 2021.

[primal abyss]

It gives you the urge to just revisit year old accounts from games you used to play and just get hit with a brick of realization haha

[severe socket]

For real though, I want Dark Quiver to be an actual quiver, not a terribly-designed bag of spilling.

I would understand if the current rendition of the skill rained down something like traps or whatever, creating a hazardous terrain in the process, but that niche is already taken by Explosive Trap.

If that skill is supposed to be an enhancer of any sort, then let it. With any direction it could want, updated to the latest quirks and gimmicks.

But still a quiver in the end. A stash of actual arrows, you know. Heck, even the actual quiver as an offhand could get a new implicit based on that alone.

Think an idol altar, but for marksman specifically.

Something along the lines of:

• X arrows max for Dark Quiver
• Projectiles consume Y arrows per shot
• Doing [some specific action] recovers Z arrows
  You get the idea.

[willow sentinel]

@uncut bolt the idol is working properly

It limits you to one of each kind

1 wolf, 1 bear, 1 raptor 1 crow etc

You get +4 to the maximum of companion

But can only have 1 per kind of companion

It's primary use if the primordial helmet Anurok

That gives you Minion per max companion

[strange umbra]

🐸

[severe socket]

@primal abyss #suggestions message - Check this out.

[severe socket]

Ribbit!

INKA ZUMA !!

[uncut bolt]

Thank you for the explanation. That kind of hinders me but I understand. I thought it would be sick to have 9 wolves lol.

[willow sentinel]

You can have 12 squirrels

[uncut bolt]

How is that?

@willow sentinel 3 from passive tree and mastery, 1 from wolf node, 1 from the skill itself. Am I missing an item?

[muted cape]

Champion ring affix +1

[uncut bolt]

Ohhh but that takes away from 1 primordial item, right? T8?

[muted cape]

No its a normal drop

[uncut bolt]

I can slam that on like any affix on let's say Red Ring?

[muted cape]

No its a sealed affix

[willow sentinel]

That's on helmet

[uncut bolt]

But I would already be wearing Scurry.

So can't have that unless I am able to slam.

[willow sentinel]

2 base +1 BM bonus + 1bm tree +1bm tree with attribute threshold +1 wolf tree

X2 for squirrels
That's 12

[uncut bolt]

I see where I went wrong in my math, thanks @willow sentinel and @muted cape

I'm going to tinker with the build when I have time.

[muted cape]

Lol what affix was I thinking is on ring? Must have been the teleport one

[willow sentinel]

Minion tp?

[willow sentinel]

Then you slap a t-rex on top

[uncut bolt]

Can I slap t-rex with it?

[willow sentinel]

Yup

[uncut bolt]

So 12 + 1 T-rex sick!

[willow sentinel]

Scurry isn't primordial

[uncut bolt]

I like that.

[willow sentinel]

Str + Dex + Cleaver + endurance Stacking

Giga crit squirrels

[primal abyss]

I'm a fan of slapping the rex with... everything

[willow sentinel]

no t-rex were hurt

Please stop slapping the t-rex

He is a good boy

[primal abyss]

The bestest.

You know what I meant 😆

[willow sentinel]

Btw you can do either
12 squirrels +1 trex
8 wolves (with +2 primo champ affix or anurok helmet)
7 wolves + t-rex (with champ affix or artor unique helmet)
6 lightning Wolves + t-rex (howl of the west wind)

[uncut bolt]

I'm still farming gear first haha.

I always farm gear then go level.

[willow sentinel]

Now you go out there with you pack and slay Aberroth

[severe socket]

[slaps T-rex]
This bad boi can fit SO many minion bonuses inside.

[severe socket]

But does he want to be the very best like no one ever was?

[strange umbra]

[primal abyss]

Actually, I think that T-rex has a simple life. Eat, Sleep, fight and enjoy fun pets in between

[uncut bolt]

Might as well do T-Rex for +2 minion skillers and I'm using 2 Red Rings with a bunch of +attributes so..

Only makes sense to.

[severe socket]

🤷‍♂️

I'm still upset that my idea of the skill "Tame Beast" for the Primalist was very likely binned.

[willow sentinel]

Sound solid

Dw Apogee + yulia boots might be more dmg, but so much more squishy

[primal abyss]

From that alone, sounds like you wanted to collect them all to become Eterra Monster Master

[severe socket]

I mean, that would've made a pretty solid signature skill for Beastmaster...

(assuming that reply was for me, that is)

[primal abyss]

It was

Just a busy day 😆

[severe socket]

Speaking of... Do you still have access to the old suggestion channels in here?

For skills specifically?

I'd be happy if some of my walls of text over there could be recovered.

Hiya Kain.

[coarse swallow]

We don't delete anything. If it was submitted to us, we still have it

[severe socket]

Awesome. I'd like to keep some of those for archiving purposes.

[coarse swallow]

If you mean publicly available, the issue is that they both clutter the space, and cause confusion for individuals that want to submit new suggestions.

Because of that, we don't feel it makes sense for archived channels to be publicly available.

If there was a particularly strong reason for them to be, looking into making an archive server that has all old channels replicated may be an idea?

[severe socket]

Nah, just a text copy via DMs if possible. I'd like to shove them into my OneNote pages so that they rest in there.

[coarse swallow]

shoot me a DM, and I can see if we can quickly track down copies for you.

[severe socket]

Given that the ideas I offer are VERY unlikely to shape up into anything tangible anyways. 🙂

[quick snow]

looking for them royalties 🤣

[severe socket]

Not in the slightest. Just for the sake of reminiscing.

I mean, I'm not a programmer, and all I can do is brainstorm, albeit in a limited capacity.

So whatever I offer ain't gonna become a thing anyway.

Might as well just archive them for myself.

I do want to contribute to the game's systems in whichever way I can. Brainstorming ideas like that is the most I can do aside from bug-reporting.

My most glaring issue about that is I very often tend to get very annoying in doing so. 😭

[main frigate]

Interesting, all EHG's CM opens their DM

(I care different points always)

[south moat]

Got to have them t-rex steaks

Would probably taste like chicken, really
maybe a bit gamey

[severe socket]

Birds are smol raptors after all.

[south moat]

They absolutely are
Chickens & roosters are terrifying
Like if they find a mouse that's bleeding, they'll wreck it
and will do that to every mouse they find after that

[severe socket]

Pigeons are dumdums though. They'll try "stirring the pot" (iykyk) with their kind's corpses when they feel like it. Ludicrous. Seen that once.

Not a pretty picture.

Note how I said "when", not "if".

[coarse swallow]

I'm Canadian, I know all about the horrors of modern dinosaurs

[south moat]

I've to say
I've heard rumors of those
but obviously never seen them

[coarse swallow]

Some say Canadians are so polite because these birds act as vessels for the collective hate and anger of all. Whatever the truth is... they have zero chill.

[severe socket]

What about shoebills?

Those can trigger nasty PTSD trips with how they sound...

[gilded nymph]

Hey guys! I am new here and was wondering if there are some art contest for the game sometimes?

[brazen tiger]

My brother was attacked by ducks once. They can be pretty nasty

[willow sentinel]

There was one recently, you just missed it

[gilded nymph]

Got a link maybe to check it out?

[willow sentinel]

#🎨┃fanart message

Start here

Rule here

#news message

[main frigate]

First time to see someone ask about this thing

[turbid silo]

Apologies for the quality poll delays btw folks - One will be going out tomorrow for Combat. We wanted to take advantage of some new forum features we didn't have before 🙂

[main frigate]

lol I have no idea how Derrick know I want to ask the poll

[gilded nymph]

Hope it is ok to ask 🙂 Just wanted to see the quality.

[fallow coral]

So.. I've been out of the L.E loop for a while. Have they changed their stances on making primordial items locked to only one? What I mean is at least made it so that you can only have one Unique primordial and maybe a single exhalted T8 item? Because let's face it. The exhalted T8's alone aren't so powerful as to be game breaking or anything.

[night marten]

has not changed

[fallow coral]

That's pretty lame. Ah well. Thanks for the heads up.

[barren mural]

hello guys and good bye 🙂

[vagrant smelt]

where is everybody

why do i not see anyone in the towns

[night marten]

cuz the season is like 6 weeks old. most people have moved onto other games

as is normal for every arpg

[turbid silo]

You are welcome to create art for the previous contest of course

Sadly, no prizes tho 🙁

[daring coyote]

Any1 with LE-65 D:?

[night marten]

nah, im solid

[daring coyote]

Hello, Solid.

[night marten]

*sigh

[vagrant smelt]

is this game dead or nah

[night marten]

it is between seasons...so its 'dead' it that regard.

this season is like, 6 weeks old. so most players have moved on unti next season

[smoky osprey]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message
@stable shoal
Yeah, its a change that removed a specific aspect of the item chase that is particularly negative for people who were willing to run 1000 troves

[stable shoal]

Yo man we gone through this so many times I just dont get it , arpgs are about loot if loot is bad then you just dont play much at all and skip

Anyway I aint Chinese neither I know what going on that community but my Vietnamese friends aint impressed about the league in the slightest either

[short vessel]

Yeah ngl, i'd prolly be doing my usual marathon esque grind

If imprints weren't gutted for multi-exalts

[young cloak]

how do you get past the LE 51 boss?

[smoky osprey]

And all I'm saying is that this feedback is localized to people who are willing to spend lots of time grinding for multiexalteds, which is not the entire community

This isn't to invalidate your opinion

[stable shoal]

Ok then thats fine

[smoky osprey]

But that comment was a full on lecture about why this happened and why it's universally bad when it's... not than that

[stable shoal]

I would love to grind the crap of this league but my imprints are 3 lp titans cause I got no chance to get any multi exalt from it

[smoky osprey]

Why not slam with t7t5t5?

[stable shoal]

So we are moving away from Le and going to poe 2 and grimd dawn fangs of aster whatever

Because we are minmaxers and something people dont think about is that exalt evolving is a chase and very fun thing to do

Like evolving exalts from the 1t7 you got to 3t7 felt f great

And get higher fp as well it sort of like getting a 3 lp titan hearth or 3 lp splitter in terms of hype each upgrade you get even to the fp but now that is also useless so

[short vessel]

I moved towards that but ultimately the process is much less enjoyable

With corruptions you end up doing a lot more slams

A lot more havocing

It's all just so tedious and unsatisfying

Before it was a long time between "useful" drops but those drops were exciting

They had a significant chance of resulting in that ideal item

Now you're just dropping those "useful" items on mass, 2/3rds of them get filtered by the slam and then you're wanting to hit a 10% worthwhile corruption

[stable shoal]

@short vessel the fact that someone is know has corrupted 41 shattered worlds and he still doesnt have frenzy is

[short vessel]

Like something i liked is that LE made dropped items exciting

As opposed to like PoE

[stable shoal]

Loot needs to be exciting crafting every single t7 that you drop is not super fun at all,uniques dropping aint a problem is the exalts

[short vessel]

But the changes this season have resulted in that kinda going away

The fact i care more about havoc drops than slam exalt drops is a pretty big condemnation of the changes in my mind

[stable shoal]

For me sucks that I am in a cof group with like idk 15 20 people and only like 1 plays anymore and rest dont cause of this league it would have been quite fun ,so many new friends

From all over the world

I know ehg is focused on next league and nothing will happen until fall most likely but idk kinda fixing what you know its not good or like hey we messed up lets try fix it to a point we are comfortable but not gonna affect the players that much

If I mess up at my job I ain't waiting 6 months to try fix my mistake

[main frigate]

It's too rare to see someone who interested in doing art here so...

Glad to see one

Fan art channel is dead though, except a short live time when a content was happening

[smoky osprey]

Ill just say that i strongly agree that game should include a way to make chasing more and more powerful exalteds possible. Ill also say that i hate imprints as a solution to that problem

I think imprints should have been released at their current power level, and I think EHG needs to ALSO build systems to chase better exalteds

[rich ledge]

Hey guys, any Shadow Rend Rouges out here want to help me with my imprints please?

[smoky osprey]

On top of a couple dozen other things I want them to address

[warped vine]

Bug fix 1st plz

Reverse loot filter, abberoth loot template remains after fight, abom sacrifice itself etc

[stable shoal]

New systems that let you get or target farm better exalts is great ,my problem is after 7 months they release omens ,they have a good chance for multi exalt affixes but for some reason they drop corrupted exalts when their use is onlu good on campaign and super early monos

Like I need ehg the developer to think and do more testing cause anyone would have known that loot is not getting better and only worse with that change

[thick totem]

@ripe sun i put an appreciation msg in #feedback , pretty long, except i put a screenshot in there, the auto mod bot deleted it instantly whenever you get the chance could you copy paste send me the text from logs so i can post it again without the image, or forward the love to the devs so they see it? i dunno why but rewriting something i wrote wholeheartedly that got automodded feels wrong

[stable shoal]

If a season takes 4 months and its mid or sucks that fine you getting 2 more on the year and dont need to wait like half a year but if leagues are 5 to 7 months then they need to be better 1.3 wasn't great but the loot was good,1.4 is worse than 1.3 and 1.2 was great like 1.5 has to be good not decent or we gonna keep getting less and less players

[warped vine]

Think we have like more or less 2k active players now

[stable shoal]

Yes

Even less sometimes

[rich ledge]

Can someone help me please lol

[stable shoal]

For mg is very bad if the number of people who start league fo down every league drastically,but cof im this league aint good

[stable shoal]

Like what you need to put in imprint slot?

[rich ledge]

I need to put the exalted chest plate with ward per created shadows

T7

im like 200-350k Favors deep and cant get it

[stable shoal]

This is a normal affix you gotta use redemption havocs,farm more and i guess spam more prophecies

[rich ledge]

damn i was hoping someone that has a good imprint can run troves with me so it drops same map and then gift me it so i can imprint it then i send it back

[stable shoal]

You could ask ingame and there is a channel for something like that in here maybe someone wants to use his imprints for that

[warped vine]

Maybe ask in #🔪┃rogue ?

[stable shoal]

You could always put the affix on a chest with an open prefix and then use havoc to hit the t7 on the affix

[rich ledge]

thank you

[ripe sun]

Done.

[thick totem]

thanks 🙂

[smoky osprey]

I think the biggest thing this league and its feedback highlights is that EHG needs to test their shit better. If imprints were stronger than they intended by this much, then they messed up. You can't give people that level of general power and item access, then take it away. You're going to get...well... what they got

I agree with them, imprints are a bad system at that power level. But you can't just close pandoras box

They should not have shipped the imprint nerf without something better in its place

[stable shoal]

By the end of this month we may get release date of grimd dawn new expansion pretty hype about that

[short vessel]

You can't send it back afaik

[main frigate]

No prizes is what I want either lol (I want colourful roles)

[smoky osprey]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message
@thick totem

My point, which youre missing, is that you cannot think that the devs intended the imprint nerf to increase playtime without thinking that the devs are brain dead

Literally any player who played season 2 or 3 could have told you that imprints increased playtime and removing them would decrease playtime. There was copious feedback to that point and EHG has actual metrics on playtime.

Claiming that EHG nerfed imprints to increase playtime is stupid af

[thick totem]

not necessarily brainded, when you tinker with drop coeffs in arpg it can be hard to estimate the impact on actual drops
add to that the psychological aspect of loot reliability and devs can make blunders, i wouldn't see any malice or incompetence in that

[smoky osprey]

Its possibly obvious that ehg did not nerf imprints for that reason, and I dont know how anyone with two brain cells to rub together thinks it is true

[smoky osprey]

Again, literally anyone who played season 2 or 3 would tell you imprints increased playtime

So I disagree

You have to think the devs are brain dead to make this change for this purpose

There was SO much feedback about the imprint chase and people spent so much longer on their characters in S2 than in S1

Why would anyone assume that was the devs intention with absolutely no evidence whatsoever when the obvious and actual effect is the opposite

Why does anyone say "they did this to increase playtime"? Where does that claim come from

Its a stupid and baseless claim

[thick totem]

? i don't know about stupid, people assuming devs made it harder to get chase item upgrades for longer playtime is not that far fetched of an idea, its legit one of the main levers for life expectancy of a character on every other arpg out there, i don't think its a 'dumb' assumption and that you're 'braindead' for assuming that's the devs's intent and that they might have indeed blundered in the amount of character progression they have taken away with regards to player count on league start and player retention falling because people don't want to have to chase that hard.
Now if anyone says they're intentionally killing the game because of that then ye, THAT is baseless without evidence, but for me the two are separate issues.

[smoky osprey]

We just disagree about how obvious the effects of imprints are. But the discourse around this is that it IS obvious

And i agree

It is plainly obvious that making multi t7s unobtainable makes people not continue to play characters to pursue those items

[thick totem]

right, people could have left for entirely unrelated reasons, nobody has the stats on those, poe1,poe2 leagues, diablo, irl etc

[smoky osprey]

Here's what I'm seeing in the discourse over and over again

1. imprints are great and significantly improve the longevity of players interest in their characters. They give more access to items to chase.

2. removing imprints would be bad for player retention and longevity (this feedback came from s2, not just s4)

3. EHG removed imprints to increase playtime

These points, taken together, presume the incompetence of the devs

[thick totem]

hmh, you also have to keep in mind that regardless of the actual effect of the nerf, if people think the nerf is major enough, it will have a dispoportionate impact on people's psyche and players leaving
exemple scenario, the nerf was in effect not that bad, but people perceived it as so and so they left

[smoky osprey]

I agree with you in principle. But the nerf IS that bad for multi exalts

This is not an example of players overreacting to that one point

This is an issue of EHG moving imprints back to the likelihood of achieving those items through other existing systems

Aligning imprints with the rest of their design

Now imprints dont feel like the only way to acquire gear and a huge outlier for gear acquisition.

You can't get multi t7s from prophecies and random drips, and you cant get multi t7s from imprints, either!

[thick totem]

ohh

damn

[smoky osprey]

I see youre in the spellforce discord. Those games are so sick

[thick totem]

they are :p

same reason i bought LE, i like the general vibe

like

actual lost eons lore kinda deal

[smoky osprey]

That last thing was an exaggeration, of course. I've seen like 3 or 4 non- nemesis multi t7s

Yeah, I really like last epoch and the imprint nerf doesn't bother me much. I'm not looking to play this game 100 hours this season. I haven't even finished my 1lps

[short vessel]

It also screws over the comparison between item factions

[smoky osprey]

And im content to slam lp2s with t7t5

[smoky osprey]

This isn't apparent to me

[short vessel]

Mg still has double t7 access nominally

[smoky osprey]

I mean... kinda?

Its hard to find double t7s you need in mg

It was WAAAAY easier to find them last season

[short vessel]

Yes but you buy like

a double t7 with one of the affixes you need and an empty/t1 affix that you craft into the other affix you want and havoc it

[smoky osprey]

I mostly don't agree. Like...I want a t7 eledot t7 mana/regen gate staff

[short vessel]

Yup

[smoky osprey]

How many of those on the marketplace right now

Or just a double t7 craftable to that point, as you say

[short vessel]

That exactly? Prolly none. Things you can craft into that excluding the othet affixes? Prolly a.few

[smoky osprey]

I kinda doubt it lol

I'd be curious to see

And also how much does it cost. The craft probably won't work

[stable shoal]

You also got like half the amount of people from 1.3 so the market gonna be drain much faster and way less good loot overall

With multiexalts dead

[smoky osprey]

Yeah, i kinda expect this nerf hit MG hard, too

I'm not MG, i could be wrong

But like... all they have is crowd sourced nemesis the thing i want is really rare

[stable shoal]

But at least you can buy altars and idols and dont need to go through that experience and try anything thats why frozen and noobzor went to mg

No way he doing same thing on cof

[smoky osprey]

Exactly

This season benefits mg heavily for that reason

I think the imprints thing is pretty flat. Hurt both a lot

[short vessel]

Still way more viable then getting it on CoF

It does hurt both a lot

I agree

[smoky osprey]

Like I said, I doubt it

But I don't have an easy way to check

[stable shoal]

1.2 we got this weaver idols shenanigans after this long I wonder why ehg cant think about players and give us an easier better way to grind idols or give us an actual reroll

[short vessel]

But the average person can access double T7's on mg way easier than on CoF

[smoky osprey]

How many double t7 gate staves are there on MG in general

[smoky osprey]

I suppose that's fair

[stable shoal]

I cannot get any 2 hand axes to slam so I just give up on cof in this league

Also with corruption mg is like miles better and ahead than cof pretty sure you not gonna have to farm 40 shattered for 1 corruption or 100 bows for a t7 shuriken mod corrupt

Idk from a player standpoint lots of testing is missing and not being done

[smoky osprey]

Yeah, strong agree

But MG has always been way better than cof

Because EHG has done a terrible job of keeping cof up to date with new mechanics

[stable shoal]

Yeah but still cof was competitive to a point no 2 lp red ring point but could get 3 and 4t7 slams going

[smoky osprey]

Like...cof doesn't get extra altar drops. Idol prophecies gave no class bias

[stable shoal]

Now I can t even get a 2t7 corrupt going as cof at least one that I want

[smoky osprey]

Imprinting trivialized gearing in MG, but it made it accessible for COF so it didn't sting so bad

[stable shoal]

Dude this is so bs like prophecies idols already suck I have better rogue and acolyte idols than my Sentinel ones from farming ornates

[smoky osprey]

There are several things like this that really annoy me about EHGs approach to things

I don't care about imprints much. I just take double t7s off my list

[stable shoal]

The only reason behind it that I can rhink off is that ehg wants you to drop an idol of other class and be like omg I wanna try this class because of an idol

[smoky osprey]

But idols are a core system and idol prophecies are painful to interact with

[stable shoal]

But ots an oversight

The entire idol needs to be fixed

[smoky osprey]

Its either

1. an oversight
   Or
2. a shortcut

My money is actually on 2

[stable shoal]

No actual rerolling, the weaver stuff farming on idols sucks,idols have too big of rolls meanwhile some classes have like no big difference in affixes rolls so its ez to get max one

[smoky osprey]

I think it was easier to implement, and someone decided at some point that it was working well enough and didn't want to go through the technical challenge of making it better

[smoky osprey]

They added rerolls in S2, but it rerolls everything and its a huge wtf moment

[stable shoal]

Seing Aaron recap idols aint getting touched and most likely new league is September or October

[smoky osprey]

Why the hell does that exist

[stable shoal]

Yeah that aint a reroll

[dry talon]

hi

[stable shoal]

Give us gauntlet of strife type or something

[smoky osprey]

This is very puzzling

Like... does anyone actually use that feature? We got so few users of the enchantments, and amber is not well used on that anyway

[stable shoal]

Its so bad ok that I dont even try to empower my idols I just corrupt whatever roll it got and thats it I can't waste anytime on idols anymore

[smoky osprey]

Its like they intended a gauntlet implementation, but it got axed and remade into the useless reroll we have now

[stable shoal]

It cost so much too like 500 amber and you get nothing pretty much

I found it very expensive in 1.2 , 1 conquered tower is 2k amber

[smoky osprey]

You mean to tell me every half an hour I can do 10 more idols and all it costs me is the cost of several conquered towers?!

Hah, we both compared to conquered towers 😂

Anyway, I hope this conversation is highlighting that even though I'm a big fan of the game, I'm not opposed to harsh criticism

[stable shoal]

I know they have limited time so they do whatever they can but they gotta revisit the entire game at this point for new and old players alike

Its fine anyway we care so we complain ,discuss and all that stuff

[short vessel]

The blessings need to be like

[stable shoal]

Blessing should be account wide mostlikely ,

Anyway I play maybe like 2 hour a week if that until other games of 2026 come out ,,so hopefully they come gun blazing next league

[short vessel]

A choice of 3 different starting points

Sorrry not blessings

Idol enchants

And the reroll should be either rerolling affix ranges or rerolling a single affix on the idol

[stable shoal]

Idol enchantment have the same problem of weaver items it pick the right affix and it has enough fp but it upgrades everything randomly without finishing the affixes so its such a bad experience likr weaver items and enchants

I would just make a currency if needed but let me upgrade prefix or suffix first to the end and idols just let them finish the enchant

[main frigate]

@sour solar I'm curious about which group with over 1000 people you mean... ( Chinese +1) 🤔 You're a streamer?

[sour solar]

QQ group

[main frigate]

lol it's a qq group for sure. Can I ask the Chinese name of the owner of this group?

(Or just the group name)

[sour solar]

653010921

[main frigate]

Oh caimogu... Make sense

I can sure all issues you mentioned are knew by EHG, but they don't solve them yet

[sour solar]

John us

653010921

[main frigate]

lol I joined that before, can't jump in the vibe unfortunately. I can't get fun from le since season 3

🤔 Derrick is finding a new member to join his team? Interesting

I hope it's not a sign that a past CM will leave

[primal abyss]

Good day everyone!

[south moat]

Good day

[primal abyss]

Hope the day is treating you well

[south moat]

It is
Though I think I slept too long, woke up all confused as to what day it is
Hope you're doing good

[main frigate]

On the opposite, slept 4h only so I need a nap now

[primal abyss]

Like when you nap and the nap just takes you? Ah good times lol

Don't let the nap take you Kirra!

[main frigate]

.....??????

[primal abyss]

You said you needed a nap

You ever take a nap and wake up feeling like you are in a different timeline?

That's what happened to nub's sleep lol

[south moat]

Ended up sleeping 12hours last night

[primal abyss]

That must have been divine

Meanwhile.. sleeping and Cat walks on your arm

[south moat]

I wish it had been divine
Too warm

[primal abyss]

Ah

Perhaps next time, then

[south moat]

Mayhaps

[main frigate]

🤔 Derrick is later than me obviously

[primal abyss]

What do you mean?

[south moat]

Derrick is doing Derrick things
And will be back to regularly scheduled things eventually

[primal abyss]

Yeah. We're here but also have other things we have to get done

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers!

[primal abyss]

Morning Muffin!

[south moat]

Gm Muffin

[turbid silo]

Good morning all 🙂

[primal abyss]

Howdy Derrick

[main frigate]

@primal abyss I mean...

[primal abyss]

What's up?

[main frigate]

I need to confirm that

[primal abyss]

You are not getting rid of me that easily lol

[main frigate]

I guess it's your answer for how do you want you to be remembered?

[primal abyss]

Plainly put. I am not leaving. So don't worry.

[main frigate]

You laughed, so I can use it as your answer

[thick totem]

is this a known bug that if you die and spend a key to retry the boss fight in temporal sanctum, you lose the ability to switc timelines, making the fight considerably harder, and bricking your ability to making legendaries

this also bricks (not definitively, just for the run) any prophecies related to that boss kill

[primal abyss]

Are you playing in offline?

[thick totem]

yed

yes*

[primal abyss]

When was the last time you connected online for update?

[thick totem]

hmm

when i died in hc, so like 2-3 days ago?

i have an extra key, im gonna check for updates on steam and do the boss again and die to see

[primal abyss]

Yeah, if you don't mind. If it happens again come back and ping me and we'll go from there

Eitherway, let me know the results

[thick totem]

i didn't see an update when launching online, doing boss now

yeah no its still bugged

time shift is gone

oh, and the boss died instantly

in t4

hmm

ohh

area lvl 55

it reset to t1 when i died

@primal abyss do you know where i can check the game version in game? might be a steam update issue

oh

nvm found it on log in screen

1.4.7

from steam patch notes it seems to be the last version

hmmm not sure what more testing i can do, want me to write an ingame bug report for your logs or you got it?

Also i seem to have found a quickfix aside from the usual fix for enchant weapon effect bug, going in and out of those pinnacle boss fights (timeline bosses) seems to reset the effects on your character as compared to regular map loading

[primal abyss]

Yes, please do this for me

[thick totem]

Does that warrant a click on the "Unable to progress" notch?

meh

nah

submitted

[primal abyss]

So this is partial offline?

[thick totem]

ye i did it on partial offline this time

happens on both

[rocky bloom]

hey guys, total noob here. i know that most items in acts are vendor trash, but i always hear about some items to keep so you can shatter them to runes or something. how do i know which items those are?

[primal abyss]

Ok. Thank you for reporting this with me. I will share this and do a little digging. Thank you for your assistance, here

[thick totem]

from one noob to another, its highly unlikely you'll find anything you'll actually want to keep once you enter echoes, for specific affixes you want you can do an exception rule for those if you're in high need of them through the loot filter shift+f

@rocky bloom

[thick totem]

no problem ^^

[primal abyss]

Hello and welcome! Well, the Rune of Shattering can shatter most things but are you asking what you should or shouldn't. So perhaps shatter things that have affixes you'd like to get

Also good tips from Venerable

There are plently of players of various styles more than happy and willing to help

[warm zephyr]

i shattered 16+ tiers of affixes to build up my shard budget

[thick totem]

this is incomplete, if you're coming from poe1 or some other arpg, take the time to make a decent filter tailored to your archetype once you hit something like lvl 50-60+ i'd say

i don't know how its going on on online trade faction since i've only played the game, and on ssf for like a week, but general affixes come very easily once you finish campaign, even during it, once you hit lvl 50, you should have more than enough to craft on any interesting base drop item you find

[warm zephyr]

5+ tiers of rare and class affixes are good to shatter too imo unless you wanna use it or keep it for alt

[thick totem]

the "legendary status removed" outcome is such troll x)

god i love how there's barely any loading time for anything

such a pain in the ass on poe1 and 2

tho, that might be because im playing offline, i noticed i struggle to load into other player's hideouts when they're on another realm

but still, those 10-20 s loading times on poe2 dreadnought 😭

act3 village is such a lagfest

[warm zephyr]

ngl i would gladly play poe2 with ps1 graphics if it meant it would work smooth

[thick totem]

+1 on that

[warm zephyr]

i can't even see their detailed next gen models during the fight
even if i could i should focus on the actual fight

[thick totem]

them textures are way too detailed for an arpg

you don't need good textures for beautiful landscapes

proof : LE

the dragon area climp to eterra's island

fkin idyllic

i'd spend the holidays there

and then my life

cuz i wouldn't leave

[warm zephyr]

yeah new campaign levels are beautiful

[south moat]

I don't think the dragons would let you leave

[warm zephyr]

even on lower settings it looks pretty overall

[thick totem]

yup

and even on cinematic

my pc is not making a peek

peep*

its mid range, 12 gigs of vram from like 3 years ago

500 euros if i remember right

shitty cpu

2x8 gigs of ram

and im alwasy frame capped on cinematic

[warm zephyr]

my laptop struggles at times
not as much as both poe's tho

[thick totem]

i do get the occasional frame freeze because of the enchant weapon bug on spellblade but hey x)

[warm zephyr]

i was doing breach beyond most recent poe1 league and fps could drop sub 10 when area was full of mobs

[thick totem]

on poe1 you can tinker the settings to get it to a reasonable level, i've found that on poe, usually the biggest part of loading screens is server issues, even more so when switching realms to buy an item in a player's hideout

[warm zephyr]

i play poe1 on lowest 🥹

[thick totem]

kinda wondering if they've implemented a delay for scalpers on hideout switch

[thick totem]

😭

[warm zephyr]

30 fps lock btw!

[thick totem]

haha

not gonna lie

[warm zephyr]

they should add 2d graphics option or something

[thick totem]

i started playing poe1 on my father's computer in beastiary league, i was running labyrinths all day for the enchants on helmets because that was the only content where i waasn't at 10 frames per second, his computer literally only had an i3 intel processor with integrated graphis and something like 4g of ram, no GPU

[thick totem]

yeah, lower polygon textures for poe2 would go a long way for both size on the harddrive and loading times and overall performance

im sure its not that hard either to make all your textures go through some algorithm to scale em down a couple different degrees for players to choose from

[warm zephyr]

years ago when doing labyrinth on weak office laptop i could disconnect every area transition
felt like 50/50
i prayed just to be able go into next area

i think it was similar to you father's computer specs

[thick totem]

Bahahahaha

ye

that happened to me a few times

getting disconnected or crashing in lab

[warm zephyr]

reminds me that size is giant too
130gb before update

i only have 500gb ssd

[thick totem]

decisions decisions haha

which game shall get the axe

[warm zephyr]

modern gaming :(

[thick totem]

ye

LUL

S punch

the publisher for helldivers 2 did something cool recently, they made a 30 gig beta version available instead of the 150 gigs

pretty neat

instead of duplicating the textures everywhere for old hard drives

smh

[warm zephyr]

they removed unused duplicate files

just how is this possible

[thick totem]

weren't unused

essentially

the high gigs version is for harddrives so you load faster

[warm zephyr]

everyone was talking about it recently and they were saying it's just duplicate files

[thick totem]

because of how old harddrives function its more time efficient loading time wise to have multiple copies of textures everywhere, but with ssds because they work differently you don't need that anymore

[thick totem]

they are, but they do have a purpose, which is why as you've noticed, the 130 gigs version has not gone anywhere, its still there for hard drive users

[warm zephyr]

i see

[devout siren]

What are the 2 best prefixes on World Splitter for Erasing Strike VK right now?

I’m mainly wondering about the best damage setup between:

Void Pen
Increased Void Damage
Melee Void Damage
Crit Multi
Flat Melee Void

What are people actually running for highest DPS/endgame corruption?

[chilly ember]

melee void for sure, then probably increased void. pen is a good choice too, but pen is a suffix, not a prefix.

[simple bison]

It'll always depend on what you have elsewhere but flat is pretty much always gonna be #1 afaik

[south moat]

Flat crit is pretty good too, isn't it?

[simple bison]

world splitter already provides a good chunk of multi (100% at 1000 mana) but more wouldn't be bad, same goes for pen (doesn't come from world splitter but you have other sources)

[chilly ember]

generally not needed, especially with a 0.3 crit roll and shattered worlds

[willow sentinel]

Not here, because ES get Flat in the tree and World Splitter give Flat per Mana cost

[chilly ember]

but even with 0.2 and no SW you can just put an extra point in flat crit in the tree

[simple bison]

a 0.3 roll gives you 9% flat right

[chilly ember]

ye

[south moat]

But the mana cost flat doesn't realy work with warpath

[simple bison]

we're talking about ES though

[chilly ember]

the question was about erasing strike

[willow sentinel]

Correct because Warpath has 1 mana cost

But here its Erasing Strike

[south moat]

Ah yea, right
Now I feel dumb

Somehow skipped that part

[chilly ember]

it happens to the best of us

[main frigate]

What about Kain? You leave or Kain leave, if someone will leave.

[south moat]

I doubt Kain is leaving any time soon

[simple bison]

Just because they're hiring a CM doesn't mean someone else has to leave

[strange umbra]

we're growing! 🙂

[south moat]

No, it means I'm leaving
||I'm not actually going anywhere||

[strange umbra]

lol nub

[simple bison]

That's against the rules, you only get so many slots smh

[main frigate]

I doubt that because we lost Wick, Olam and Ave indeed

[simple bison]

Olam and Ave were just contracted to EHG, they weren't employees of EHG

it was inevitable that they'd leave eventually

[main frigate]

Employees of EHG still can leave

[simple bison]

correct, I just meant that Ave and Olam aren't a precedent of that

[strange umbra]

Doesn't mean we're not growing 🙂

[south moat]

Also EHG has been recruiting in general
And their employee count has gone up indeed

[low moon]

I don't get it, what's the point of asking "how hard do you want us to fix

combat

1 to everything in the poll seems like a solid idea ? :S

what else can one pick

[primal abyss]

nope. I'm keeping Kain aroud as long as possible too

So help me Derrick 😆

[simple bison]

I mean yes in a perfect world where everything could instantly be fixed I doubt they wouldn't do that. But we're not in said world so they're polling us on what we want them to really focus on fixing first

[low moon]

I mean more in towards, every option there is equally important

[simple bison]

I personally disagree, I think telegraph hitboxes and player movement being incorrect are by far the most impactful and hurtful of the 5

[turbid silo]

Heh, that would make the point of stack ranking irrelevant

[simple bison]

an enemy AI bricking and having them just do nothing is kinda just funny, obviously would suck if it happened all the time and would detract from the experience so it should still be fixed but it's way better than dying unfairly because your character moved into an enemy attack when it shouldn't have or an attack hitting you when it shouldn't

[languid rover]

me when i flame rush and it does 180 for no reason and i move backwards 😂

[simple bison]

Yeah most dashes will do that it sucks when it happens

It happens more often when there's a lot of big enemies in a tight pack

because the game basically treats them as a wall pathfinding wise

[main frigate]

Sure, I was trying to give a bait

You know who am I want to ask

lol... What a change of poll is

[turbid silo]

We changed it cause stack ranking provides us with a better idea of what's most impactful to player's experience in whatever subject matter we're asking about

[main frigate]

But what I mean is even EHG is growing, they still can leave. Everyone have the own choice

[south moat]

I mean ofc they can leave

[main frigate]

Through I still can't agree Kain on colourful roles

[south moat]

It's not like their contract says "You're not allowed to quit"
That'd be illegal anyway

[simple bison]

That goes for anyone in any company tbf

[main frigate]

I'm curious about how are you keep Kain

[south moat]

That's their business
Not ours

[languid rover]

incorrect, they sold their soul to aberoth and are schackled to the company for all of eternity

[willow sentinel]

With a leash

[strange umbra]

lmao

[main frigate]

What will Judd control his Aberroth to do?

[willow sentinel]

@thick totem You mean like this ?

[south moat]

Tbh I wish just clicking those would be enough to teleport you there
instead of having it open the place on map

[turbid silo]

I am gonna add this to our feedback tracker, cause I agree too heh

They should just TP on click

[thick totem]

omg

yo

my bad

x)

[willow sentinel]

And for donjons

Right click on key

[thick totem]

omg

i need to read

[south moat]

That's the 2nd time I've not needed to put something in feedback because one of the community managers has picked it when I've said something here

[willow sentinel]

Happen to everyone

Although it kinda shows they might not be visible enough

[main frigate]

I wonder why no one at EHG think this point before instead

[willow sentinel]

Thats why I went for a big thick red

[south moat]

They might've but thought it's not as important.

[thick totem]

the keys that's for sure, for the factions, as a new player, you're too overwhelmed by all the level bonuses to care about silly buttons

maybe a glow when you open the interface for the first time? or under level 70 or something like that around the button

[primal abyss]

Have you had that Dungeon bug occur again, btw?

[main frigate]

About this thing... It's why I was start to remember Ave.

[thick totem]

don't have the materials to make another legendary yet, working on it, from the testing i did earlier, its 100% occurance

[languid rover]

nerf mage

[turbid silo]

We pay attention to all 🙂

or try to as best we can

[main frigate]

lol I don't think so. He maybe want to rule Eterra with his fireballs :)

[languid rover]

if this game has any bugs in it or broken builds

[main frigate]

Meteor... Oh yes

[languid rover]

the answer to all is always to nerf mage

[thick totem]

i need to go sleep, i read your msg but my brain didn't acknowledge it, when we started chatting about waypoints and such i was in the process of going to the different dungeons to unlock their waypoints and my brain didn't tick i didn't need to anymore x)

[languid rover]

cant wait to be doing 1 dmg with every spell and they will nerf it again 😂

[main frigate]

Meteor must be top 1 skill!

[thick totem]

oh, scrap that, you need the waypoint haha

[burnt eagle]

Listen there have to be balancing tradeoffs when buffing falconer, that's just the way it goes

[main frigate]

Sorcerer will rule falconer in Judd's mind

Because falconer can't summon meteor

[burnt eagle]

Yet!

[simple bison]

Falconer can summon meteors

[main frigate]

But the truth is on the opposite. What happened?

[thick totem]

@main frigate damn your paintings are good

[simple bison]

All masteries can cast meteor through harbinger of stars

[quick snow]

i would like a meteor node that summons falconers

[thick totem]

took me a moment to realise they were maps from poe2

[main frigate]

The last render relevant to maps from poe 2 will be done in 0.5, it's a whole series which can showcase as same as le's series then. Four paintings for four maps I like the best

I'm thinking eagle version of meteor... Maybe they're eagles with flames around... Oh maybe it's phoenix. Muffin must familar with phoenix because he lives near the hideout.

[odd mason]

Still one of the bad-ass skills synergies across all games in this genre. I wish that Last Epoch could find more investments and level up even more.

[turbid silo]

Which synergy is that?

[civic notch]

Whats the use case for rune of creation in CoF faction? They remove the FP from the item and I cant think of a good use case for it. Second chance for Corruption i guess?

[simple bison]

Two slams for legendaries mostly

[civic notch]

[simple bison]

I don't see why that's not a good use

[south moat]

If slams weren't a thing
You could use rune of creation to get 2 good exalts to use
but alas

[agile wave]

such a dead game

[civic notch]

no u

[south moat]

All aprgs are dead when the season is over a month & half old and people are waiting for the next one

[main frigate]

つ ◕◕ ༽つ Summon 1.5 ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

(what I want is expansion, not 1.5 though)

[night marten]

Gonna be a while yet. Calm thyself

[main frigate]

A new CM will join the journey definitely if Derrick want to hire a new one is true.

Who will be that lucky person? 🤔

[turbid silo]

Only time will tell!

[main frigate]

Why we're online at the same time always lol

[turbid silo]

I'm always online just a matter if I have a chance to check in on Discord 😄

[main frigate]

I mean when I check discord, you check discord too

[turbid silo]

Magic!

[jaunty elbow]

lizard gaming

[short vessel]

When you're doing it on a perfect craft near max roll double exalt with like 3 fp remaining that's a very strong effect

[snow verge]

can some1 help me with keys t ogo faster in camping ?

[thick totem]

#feedback message
@errant nymph Yup, +1 on that, almost died to it a couple of times when my char was still hc

[tiny jacinth]

any changes made to the campaign length per season start? Haven't played this season but thinking about giving it a go.

[south moat]

no

[thick totem]

per season start?

the game isn't a stacking build ahhh

x)

[steep river]

They do keep reducing how much time it takes to get into Empowered Monoliths.

Previously the fastest route was to go up the "right" side: Fall of Outcast -> Black Sun -> Ending the Storm -> Reign of Dragons to get to the level 90s. And in the past, you had to do all 3x level 90s for the Harbinger to show up.

Currently, every regular Monolith except the level 90s are already unlocked. And to unlock the level 90s you need to just do the Knowledge of Orobyss quest and do any combo totaling 5x. Which means you can now get to the level 90s in possibly 3 monoliths if you do Fall of Empire + Reign of Dragons + any third one. Compared to 4 previously going up right side. And then you just need to do any 1x level 90 and defeat the Harbinger to unlock Empowered. Compared to needing to do all 3x level 90s.

Also for Alts the Knowledge of Orobyss quest is shared, so the alt just needs to do any 1x level 90 to get to Empowered.

[primal abyss]

Good day everyone

[south moat]

Hello there

[primal abyss]

Hope everyone is having a nice Wednesday

[main frigate]

No, it's a complex Wednesday

[south moat]

It's good
Just took cottage pie out of the oven

[main frigate]

So many things worth to think

Cottage pie must yummy...

Wait, with cheese or without?

[south moat]

It doesn't have cheese.

[thick totem]

Helloooo

[primal abyss]

Aaah. Those hit he spot

[main frigate]

spot?

[thick totem]

ah

[main frigate]

oh I can't read because a t escaped from Van's finger

[thick totem]

im discovering the automodded words one joke at a time

the S word, the C word

bahahah

i was talking about storage space with someone yesterday and helldivers 2 came up, my messgae got struck down because of the ban word that's in the developper's name x)

[primal abyss]

Haha. Ah, Love some Helldivers too!

[turbid silo]

A good day to all

[south moat]

G'day

[thick totem]

dev team waking up from a hard night of partying

[turbid silo]

Hah, if only 😉

[tiny jacinth]

awesome, tyvm lol.

[steep river]

Welcome

[primal abyss]

If partying means being in bed early, the absolutely trying

[willow sentinel]

OO

I might have to go read Mage patch note

But have Volcanic Orb visual been changed ?

It looks so prutty

[main frigate]

Being in bed early can be mean differently 🤔

[primal abyss]

Being in bed is just trying to ensure you get a nights rest

[turbid silo]

I've been going to bed earlier

[main frigate]

American's night always decent because it's Chinese's day

[willow sentinel]

It looks so cool I might change my mind

I was lvling a spellblade for Fire Aura

I might try to do smth with Volcanic Orb instead

[primal abyss]

Yeah. Timezones and all that

Vlad, are you feeling the Magely urge?

[willow sentinel]

Living a full life 😍

[south moat]

But mage isn't Sentinel

[willow sentinel]

I have been wanting to give Fire Aura a try

Last I tried it , it was back in 1.0 or 0.9

And it was ....

Not alive ^^

But those Volcanic orbs

Are stealing my heart

[steep river]

I tried it this Season. Have fun!

[south moat]

Have fun?
We don't do fun around here

Only serious business

[willow sentinel]

What flavour did you try ?
Hot Chili? Cold Mint or Zingy Lime ?

[main frigate]

Zingy lime... 🤔

[willow sentinel]

Didnt find anything better to refer to lightning

[muted cape]

Ngl fire aura looks really good this season specially when watching frozen sentinel play it on hc 👌

[willow sentinel]

Yeah, the gavel tech looks real nice

Although seeing his planner kinda make me want to play it less

xD

[primal abyss]

You could always try it and tweak some things too

Do it...for Science

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers!

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/gvrp9xlnrgp.gif

[muted cape]

U a traveler? Thought you lived in a data center 😱

[turbid silo]

I could not imagine living in a data center

It would be unique that's for sure

[strange umbra]

traveling data center!

lmao

but honestly just ask @turbid silo - I AM the data center 😛 lol

[muted cape]

I figured as much. You are the le main frame.

[turbid silo]

He is for real tho

[primal abyss]

I can confirm. Muffin is a time traveling pastry

[strange umbra]

HACKING THE GIBSON

[night marten]

This is the way

[primal abyss]

This is the way

[strange umbra]

[steep river]

Ha! Hot Chili if that's fire

[main frigate]

It's raining for three days. I'm quite moist and confused what make the sky cry so hard

[willow sentinel]

Indeed

[strange umbra]

lol

[willow sentinel]

Cant wait to be level 60 to see what the void VO looks like

[willow sentinel]

@stable shoal I feel thats smth you will know
Best way to farm exp ?

Omen Veil

?

[languid rover]

I think that's only decent if you can do all 3 at once ,

[stable shoal]

No all the omen content is no good for xp since your xp only comes from tomes I think this season bis xp favor farm is the prison with the exile mages where you can add exile mages affixes to gear ,last league just doing troves was insanely good and fast xp /favor ,temples should also be good all of this empowered by folly affecting the temples or unclaimed troves echoes,exiles mages echo doesnt need any modifier you basically kill all mages but you never complete the echo so you just restart the echo,if you can stack like 2 big xp modifiers and then just do exile mage echo,dont finish ,teleport out and do same thing again and again

One thing to say if any dev sees this is that polls need to be a bit better and questions need to be more specific and all different, you have people on this discord that go and make a better poll in the co.ments when they see the poll in the forum

[balmy arrow]

[nimble sparrow]

I get CONSTANT LE-51 bugs when logging in and it's killing my motivation to keep playing. Any tips?

Tried already:

• rebooting steam
• rebooting PC
• verifying files
• turned off cloud saves
• cleared game cache

[daring coyote]

Change region to the second best ms

[nimble sparrow]

Didn't work

[sly turret]

How does the experience gain blessing work? For a very rough estimate, let's say I have 10 % inc exp gain, and I level from 51-60. Do I end up at level 61?

[daring coyote]

That will depend on the exp table. But the exp gain blessing is, IMO, the first one u should go for full %(10%) if you are in circle of fortune.

[quick snow]

that's a really bad way to put it. if you kill a mob and get for example 50 exp, if you have the blessing you will instead recieve 55 xp from that mob

[thick totem]

i have not seen 1 bug except 1 known and non game disruptive enchant weapon bug,
are you sure your cpu/gpu is not dying or something ?

[stable shoal]

There are plenty of bugs ,that being said performance has gotten better overall if your build has a lot vfx it kills your performance after a while

[bold cloud]

Farming aberroth if you don't pick items on the floor u get a galore after sometime

The animation is also painful doing it 50 times over

Plenty of bugs, controller joystick suddenly ceased to work and only mouse and keyboard can work

[sly turret]

Which will result to 1 extra level per 10 levels? Seems rather weak.

[sly turret]

Do you know how much extra xp would you have after a couple of levels?

[shrewd canyon]

Just run as far out on the web as possible and higher corruption the more exp

[willow sentinel]

Wanted to play orbiting volcanic orbs
Turns out they are bugged and you get like half the duration 💀

[willow sentinel]

Extra xp also means extra favor

[sly turret]

Elaborate please

Do you also know exactly how the extra xp gain works?

[willow sentinel]

If a mob would give you 100xp, 10% xp blessing will net you 110xp

[thick totem]

galore?

[bold cloud]

Galore of ghost items in the floor that cannot be picked up

[fierce ibex]

LE-51 anyone?

[thick totem]

what's LE-51?

[fierce ibex]

it was an error on the game before login in. but after restarting steam its okay

[nimble sparrow]

Sometimes

[stable shoal]

Damm I saw the convo

[rotund heath]

i just wanted to jump back into LE, however, i have massive performance issues and the average suggestions found on google (usually apply to the graphics settings) do not really help yet. basically whenever anything happens (i.E. in the campaign start, whenever a meteor hits the ground and these beetles spawn, or when i click a quest giver) i have a game freeze of about 0.5 to 3 seconds. any ideas what could be causing that?

[turbid silo]

Good morning all!

[south moat]

Gm Derrick

[turbid silo]

How are you nub

[south moat]

I'm pretty good
Heading out soon
How are you?

[turbid silo]

I am good!

GOing to be a busy week as it's just me and Kain

Van is on vacation 🙂

[south moat]

Ah, hope Van has a good vacation

[turbid silo]

Agreed! Well deserved

[grizzled karma]

See if you have issues in fully offline mode. If you don’t then it’s network/server/lag related.

[rotund heath]

it got a bit better after 1) playing for a bit, 2) even though i have the steam startup args set to "-high -USEALLAVAILABLECORES", i manually set the priority of LE in taskmgr to high and disabled cpu 0 affinity (as some people suggest). that reduced the spikes somewhat, and the further along in the game i went, the better it got.
since season 2 i generally have this problem most extremely in the campaign start, and since then it turns me off from starting in a new season. so i hoped there's fixes by now. verifying game files hasnt helped

[turbid silo]

What kind of system are you running?

[languid rover]

I'm sorry, but what are your PC specs?

LE is not GPU intensive, it's CPU that gets eaten for breakfast

[rotund heath]

Ryzen 7800x3d, amd radeon 7800XT, 32GB DDR5 RAM, win11, 2560x1440 resolution

[turbid silo]

Definitely should run just fine on that heh

All drivers updated?

[rotund heath]

i guess so. since it happened ever since season 2 and since then i updated drivers a few time, i doubt that to be the issue. i can look again sure. I also did the minimum install of the amd drivers (no adrenaline stuff) since that software messed up some other games (like wow). the pure amd driver install with no bloatware helped those games

[languid rover]

Yea I don't really see issue with this, you could try running a stress test on your CPU and see if all the cores work as they should

You can have some internal setting limiting their output

[rotund heath]

i mean with the myriad of posts about last epoch freezes and stutter issues, and me not really having this issue in any other games (well, world of warcraft is the second game that had freezing issues) i was guessing it's game related.

but i don't want to disiss the cpu having some weird limiter set up, though i'd be surprised if that would be installed by default. i am just installing the latest drivers as well, just to check

[languid rover]

All CPUs have a limiter

That's why overclocking exists in the first place

[main frigate]

How long?

[main frigate]

where's Andy 🤔

[languid rover]

Factory sets it to X GHz to ensure the optimal longevity, while the cores are capable of more GHz at the cost of lifetime

[main frigate]

I remembered Andy is a member of your team too

[rotund heath]

sure but i wouldn't expect having to overclock the cpu to play last epoch - since >90% of the customer base either wouldn't know how to do it, or not dare to do it for fear of voiding warranty etc

[languid rover]

If I'm looking at the correct thing you have 4.2 by default which is way more than I use and my game works fine

[rotund heath]

yep. taskmgr says 4,55Ghz current speed

[languid rover]

There could be issues with a logger , but that's something beyond my knowledge and can't help yo with that

[simple bison]

Yeah same. Mine only goes up to like 4Ghz and the game runs fine for me

So it might be something else like drivers or other software incompatibility

[rotund heath]

yeah i guess, but how would i find out what that something is

[simple bison]

There has been some stuff with both the amd and Nvidia software that tanked LE performance in the past, like certain shader settings and stuff in their respective control panels

[languid rover]

Try full offline mode as mentioned above

[simple bison]

Yeah troubleshooting it is rough

[languid rover]

And yeah, there was a patch somewhere in mid season 1 that absolutely destroyed the game for me as well

Like my GPU got borderline fried after the patch

Went from 50-55c averages to 90+

I'm gonna go on a stupid whim and ask you if you have vsync turned off 😂

[rotund heath]

have it off, set frame limiter - tried it off, on 60, ,and 75 fps. could try with on

[languid rover]

You could try uncapping your frames

[rotund heath]

honestly though, after updating the drivers again (not even sure if i wasn't maybe already on the latest version?) right now it doesn't bug out on gamestart. neither offline, nor online

curious if it'll happen again tomorrow

i definitely updated the drivers sometime this year last time though

[languid rover]

Can always be something got corrupted along the way

Software is all just spaghetti code that nobody knows how it works

[rotund heath]

well... that's not quite true, but i get what you wanna say

i am happy it works for now

[languid rover]

My funniest coding experience was when we made a website

That had a button on it, that the customer wanted removed from the final product

Sure easy fix

We removed it and the whole site became inoperable

[rotund heath]

well that's on you then. you can just css it hidden technically x)

[languid rover]

We had to add it back, blend it into the background and code it so the button on click does nothing, and all worked fine afterwards

[rotund heath]

but if it's software you wrote, it's on you to know how it works, is it not?

[languid rover]

yesnt

[rotund heath]

i mean if it's some ancient silverlight stuff i get you. that is black magic for sure

[languid rover]

We never figured out what line of code was tied to the stupid button that made the whole site just not work

[turbid silo]

Apologies, got distracted with a project 😄

[turbid silo]

Andy is still here, he's offline until the afternoon

[languid rover]

Coding is a lot clearer these days yes, but you can ask a programmer to fix someone's else program and they will 9 out of 10 times tell you to get lost cos they don't wanna bother learning jank from someone else 😂

[turbid silo]

That doesn't matter 🙂

[main frigate]

Judd is on vocation too?

[languid rover]

Why do you care Kirra, honestly, it's kind of a stalker behaviour

[main frigate]

Fine. Mans are mysterious always

🤔 I wonder how he define "effective" in work if you says any question I have

[turbid silo]

Not sure tbh

[main frigate]

That's an honour if an artist can be a good stalker

👀 I want to be an assassin if I can

it's why bladedancer and marksman are characters I appreciated after tried them

What a beautiful combo is if daggers with magic

Or dance with wands

Oh. Wait... Maybe what I seeking is a martial artist.

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers!

[turbid silo]

Heya Muffin!

[strange umbra]

[daring coyote]

-> Get 300k favour in bow prophecies
-> Get x quantity of bows u need in the first one
-> First 6 u get what u need
-> Poker face

OBS: same happened to quiver. Never learns.

[main frigate]

Eterra blessed you

[daring coyote]

Finally xD
Gonna try a shuriken cast by bow crit, to have defense and dmg for 1k corruption. A bit hard, cuz it seems a zhp, but I think I can.

[thick totem]

where are y'all from, i see you waking up at 5 pm everyday, US?

[strange umbra]

EHG is globally remote but the handful of us who post regularly here are mostly US or Canada 🙂

[main frigate]

Derek: I need more Brazilians

[daring coyote]

Here

[turbid silo]

Good ol' US

[coarse swallow]

I think we have four team members from Brazil? I'm not positive actually, we don't treat it as a competition, haha.

[night marten]

classic USA nerf. the only way to stop us from winning is to not have winners

[south moat]

Hey Kain, Muffin

[main frigate]

(weird aggressive mood is here, yes)

Glad to hear it's not a competition

[south moat]

How many Finns do you guys have?

I think there's at least one

[coarse swallow]

There's two I believe... don't quote me on that.

[south moat]

Too late, quoting already

[thick totem]

altar of orobyss first attempt 👀

[coarse swallow]

Good luck!

[south moat]

Good luck, you can do it
or maybe you can't

[thick totem]

welp

ded

quite a lot of things that can kill me in there

a dot killed me

i need thos gloves

that apply armor to dot

x)

hmm

people lied to me

there are things that go through ward

the wave from his slam

didn't touch my ward at all

[coarse swallow]

The wave from the slam is not intended to be tanked unfortunately, you'll need to dodge that one!

[thick totem]

yeye i expected as much, i just got hit for a split second tho and it hit through ward and killed me :p

[coarse swallow]

Yea, pinnacle bosses have zero chill, haha.

[thick totem]

ahhh

7ù

7%

close

gonna get him on 4th

haha

and if my assumption is right with threshold of eternity woven echo you can do him with corruption in map/atlas?

i own

won

5th

exciting fight

[night marten]

no. threshold of eternity specifically says it doesnt scale with corruption

but it is significantly harder

[main frigate]

Quite fast this time because I forget EHG have a poll already

[south moat]

GG on beating Aberroth

[thick totem]

lul im farming him

now that's i've beat him once

i need like 3 uniques from him

[turbid silo]

The beauty of beating him once: You can now farm him comfortably 😄

[thick totem]

hmm welp still not quite used to his attacks haha

[turbid silo]

For sure, takes time

[south moat]

Hmm
I guess I could kill him a few times
Haven't touched the game in 3 weeks

[willow sentinel]

Came back after 2 weeks
First build I tried is bugged 😅💀🙃

[simple bison]

what was it?

[willow sentinel]

Orbiting Volcanic Orb duration is inconsistent

The first one in each zone last twice as long as any other

[simple bison]

I mean, are the others lasting half the time or the first one lasting double the time? if it's the latter then it's just a positive bug no?

[south moat]

Tbh if I'd play one more build this season
it'd be spellblade

[round lake]

when we can expect next season? or again.. 6 months? with such bad skins and so bad and not appealing character model (why buying skins to so ugly characters when nothing fits - buying nice looking helmet and rest of character doesn't fit = not buying mtx helmet.?) i guess it's not selling better from MTX'es. So P2W classes are still a thing?

[thick totem]

P2W?

xD

where you seen tht

[south moat]

It is a real thing that we are getting a paid class with the free expansion

[thick totem]

??

which?

[desert nimbus]

Paradox classes or whatever the current name is called

[south moat]

We do not have information

[thick totem]

ohh

[south moat]

Coming in 2027 at some point

[ruby prawn]

new chris wilson video 👀 seems pointed after the poll

[simple bison]

lmao

Good thing their polls aren't what chris is warning against

[ruby prawn]

uh

you sure? his first point is that it gives the impression that devs lack vision or direction

[simple bison]

Yes, they're not polling us on design decisions. The polls are for bugs/issues

they're not asking what the next mechanic should be

We already have a roadmap outlining what their plans are for the future

they're not asking us for stuff like that

[ruby prawn]

right but all of the poll responses are major issues, and by asking for a ranking it gives the perception that only one will get worked on and resolved, even if all may get fixed eventually

[thick totem]

is it a known bug that harbinger's needles don't work?

[simple bison]

they do

are you equipping them?

[ruby prawn]

i guess i'm saying why even take a poll, why not just fix them behind the scenes if you know they are major issues?

[thick totem]

y

hmm

i was trying em before beating abberath

lemme try now that i've beaten him

that might be it