💬┃general

[south moat]

Yeah you're wrong there...

[night marten]

also incorrect. season 5 is also not paid or the expansion

[turbid silo]

Wooosh and we are off with Hype Week Day One!

[fathom umbra]

Wrong, you mean the expansion

[turbid silo]

🙂

[viral halo]

the new fight looks very interesting! Don't know what channeled abilities could do though...

[pulsar geyser]

the bar reminds me of breach 2.0

[modest cypress]

New mechanic looks fun

[south moat]

New pinnacle got me interested 🤔

[lost steeple]

Yeah that's really exciting at least

[steep wraith]

Looking at the past time table, it is

[pulsar geyser]

and opening multiple of them too

[calm zodiac]

Fractured legend acquired 🙂

[mint edge]

Ah it's just breach league, nvm good luck boys

[slim pier]

Are you guys gonna sell the hype day posts as dlc?

[near timber]

Gonna be nice to dive back into LE

[calm jay]

I shoulda brought fries for all this salt...

[calm zodiac]

Exactly, me and the boys love killing monsters in a circle

[near timber]

Love the skills got talents trees a ton

[night marten]

the roadmap clearly has s5 and the xpac seperate. and the devs have said so many times.

[vocal hull]

I hope they bring back the broken reflect builds❤️ I liked turning LE into a walking simulator

[fathom umbra]

soooo creative

[calm jay]

Yes, my paladin senses are tingling already, I can feel a paladin in the future

[ocean roost]

is it? you enter a CIRCLE and there's purple bar fills up as you kill enemies. it's Breachest Breach that ever Breached. which is good.

[mint edge]

If it wasnt RIGHT after a Poe1 breach league maybe lol

[fathom umbra]

Some of us LIKE breach

[calm zodiac]

What's wrong with it? 3.27 was great lol

[night marten]

and the boss is invulnerable until the mob is gone

like harb

[fathom umbra]

And besides... sooo many people keep whining for more PoE content in the Friday streams

[heady night]

bought my supporter pack

sooooooo crrrrrisssspppyyyy

[fathom umbra]

I want me that red panda on god

[ocean roost]

yea, it's not 1 to 1, which would be weird. but i'm proposing to call it Omen Breach, because window is a lame word.

[vocal hull]

The only PoE content I want is big titty demon women as bosses 😤😤😤😤

[viral halo]

hey derrik

would it somehow be possible, maybe for the next season at least, that your GIFS in that area could get a bit more resolution... A bit more detail would be awesome, it is hard to read/view on 4k for example

[calm zodiac]

Finally they put out some good looking cosmetics for once lol

[unborn relic]

I was just looking at the news channel last night to see if I missed an announcement. Lets go

[steep wraith]

Instead of breaches they should've made like 10 new unique boss fights in end game

[lost steeple]

I'm sure that's coming

[modest cypress]

I think we can all agree here at least that last epoch and poe copied sacred 2, any truers?

[calm jay]

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

[coarse swallow]

We wish we could go away from GIFS entirely. Unfortunately we're actually limited by Steam here =/

[south moat]

Even if we got 10 new unique bosses he'd be complaining

[turbid silo]

This is great feedback. We have some various limitations that prevent us from doing this.

[balmy arrow]

Approved by the lizard gang

[calm zodiac]

The purple gang approve too

[vocal hull]

Poe has big yitties

LE has no yitties

See the problem??

[night marten]

lol. i dont think they are going to call it breach. its a little breach but i still think more harb. either way, its a mob mechanic and thats what the people wanted

[steep wraith]

Complaining? Critique, where you actually add context instead of just saying this bad

[calm jay]

Look, man, my education may be in medical but I know proper science and math when I see's 'em, and I see's 'em here.

[viral halo]

oh ok, but thanks for the quick answer 🙂

[shell wadi]

Is this the first and at the same time the last season for this year?

[calm zodiac]

Monsters in circle = good
Monsters dying in circle and droppin loot = brain happy

[vocal hull]

I went to school for political science and history and if I know anything is that when there are boobah present, history is way more fun

[heady night]

when the youtube videos dropping for the supporter packs. they did a REALLY good job!

[calm jay]

And what are we doing in Last Epoch, if not making history?

[ocean roost]

oh i'm not saying Devs should call it. but as a community, we probably could.

[fathom umbra]

Good chance of season 5 later this year, they said somewhere implying s4 and s5 will be normal cadence, but the epansion will be a bit lo nger

[vocal hull]

Preach brother PREACH

[calm jay]

I believe our case is rock solid, your honour...

[inner finch]

Fractured, but whole

[night marten]

no, expect s5 to be this year too. the expansion/s6 might be next year tho

[night marten]

i see what you did there

[round lake]

Game is still in ea. Not even campain is ended and there are no unique models 3d for most uniwues.. we aint in 2011 and its going to be b2p, +dlc+ class + skins.

Typical Greed and dreaming of being big corpo

[south moat]

I'd like to see s6 this year too tbh

[coarse swallow]

I'm not sure if the post says it, but you'll actually get a lootsplosion at the end instead of drops while clearing, so they don't clutter and interrupt your fight in the ring.

[lost steeple]

Yeah probably. I get people's complaints about ehg and le rn. Personally I'm more than a little annoyed that I'm gonna have to buy a class when it drops, that's a major L in a game we already had to buy to begin with. But simultaneously I think people can just like.... Get over it, to some extent. Or drop the game, leave a bad review about it and dip from the server. There's no sense in just spewing mindless negativity lol

[steep wraith]

Well a man could wish

[shell wadi]

2 season per year a bit little

[calm zodiac]

Nub is this servers professional hater, don't mind him

[fathom umbra]

Yet plenty of games are EA these days and get off scot-free, release DLC, and other crazy practicess

[steep wraith]

He replied to my critique..

[fallow sleet]

Hey everyone! Is there salt today?

[calm jay]

I don't like it but I also understand running costs and how a solo box price just isn't a reflection of modern monetization requirements... and their cosmetics shop clearly ain't it and they aren't running PoE's gamut of selling storage. So, yanno, the moolah gotta come from somewhere.

[fathom umbra]

Ask the LE haters ig

[vocal hull]

Kain I am once again asking the devs from the bottom of my heart

When is the giant baguette sword mtx

[fathom umbra]

Its hip to hate on LE these days

[inner finch]

Every global ping is like throwing a net, pulling it, and see what comes out. Its full of surprises

[calm zodiac]

Basically like it works on breach, I imagined as much, me like loot explosion, unless I get bad loot then I'm going to come here and say that the game is trash

[night marten]

eh. depends on how big they are and how fast they can push stuff out. still could be but not likely i think

[lost steeple]

Yeah which is a lot of why I'm still gonna buy it even though I'm annoyed about it lol

[fallow sleet]

But are they here today?

[mint edge]

Think it would be fine if they approached it that way from the start, but it was a buy in price to play and that was supposed to be it til the moolah got drank up

[calm jay]

Basically this lol, "Shut up and take my money" kinda moment

[mint edge]

Very much a bait and switch practice even if not intentional

[calm jay]

What I super duper appreciate is that it's the classes for sale and not the content

[night marten]

best laid plans and intentions and all that

[coarse swallow]

Unlikely ever. Our art team has been quite against 'joke' MTX, and adamant that everything is at least somewhat in-universe. Like the roomba cat. Toucan I think was as far as we'll ever go, and only because it's such a big meme.

[fathom umbra]

Yeah, PoE gets their income from selling you stash tabs + power, sooooooooo...........

[balmy arrow]

Omen windows opened in chat

[turbid silo]

[mint edge]

POE sells cosmetics and tabs, not sure what power you think they selling chief

[round lake]

Dragonkin devs are fair and dont have delusional dreams of greed go support them.

[calm jay]

So in an ideal world when I bring someone into the game three paid classes deep, the box price still gets them five classes they never played and a whole entire game they can play with me. Don't have to also buy Burning Epochsade and Wrath of the Last King

[lost steeple]

Power?? Lol

[fallow sleet]

I thought I was the only one. Normally you have to buy the whole content including the class. Now you can skip the class and not buy anything.

[fathom umbra]

you dont have to STAY Here

[inner finch]

[fathom umbra]

Power through stash tabs is what im implying

[crude saddle]

lol

[round lake]

And you to answer.

[mint edge]

Lol?

Thats an opinion

[calm zodiac]

Lock them up in a basement and release magical girl waifu MTX, I speak for everyone when I say we're buying it

[mint edge]

For sure

[vocal hull]

I didn’t realize proper carbohydrates were a joke to you

How insensitive.

[lost steeple]

I've spent less on stash tabs than I did on buying LE and I have 15000 hours in poe

[zealous siren]

I'm still reading but this already looks soooo good love it ! ❤️

[calm jay]

Right! So I have the option for a single small payment as an experienced player to get a new experience, and new players brought in don't have this massive paygate to be able to play the game with me.

[fathom umbra]

Oh so you represent the entire POE community, interesting

[calm jay]

They can just play mage, and I can play... the void/necro caster they're definitely adding.

[vocal hull]

Respectfully, please go outside

[south moat]

I guess you could say that it's "power" having more stash tabs that allow for easier selling of items etc
and easier handling of stash space
I don't exactly agree that it's power but

[lost steeple]

Obviously not but my point is that stash tabs do not equate to power in any way and it's perfectly possible to get to multi mirror builds with very few

[calm jay]

And I really just want to steer at least some attention to it because if we aren't thankful for the really good decisions devs make, they'll just keep following market trends because that's where money goes. Das'all

[south moat]

15000 hours isn't that much for a game that's been out for 13 years really

[lost steeple]

Yeah I've been playing since the 3 act days

[fathom umbra]

Point being, you have to pay for an action or service such as storing items or selling items via premium tabs, that you;'d not have for free

[whole dust]

hype for monsters in circle?..

[calm jay]

Dear God, I remember when it was 3 acts. Christ

That isn't a couple years ago anymore...

[calm zodiac]

Absolutely, we love monsters in a circle

[lost steeple]

Lmfao ikr

[livid prairie]

So the new mechanic this league is Breach Hives

[lost steeple]

SO true

[calm jay]

Wheeze

[vocal hull]

Averaging over 3 hours a day for 13 years, shit I wish I had that kinda time

[devout remnant]

when Searing Bond was meta

[balmy arrow]

I remember when lizards didn't trample our land....

[night marten]

i prefer squares but ya know sometimes you gotta take what you can get

[south moat]

Yeah... I remember when it stopped at Piety in act 3
before we got Dominus

[lost steeple]

Tbf most of those hours were when I was unemployed 😂

[lost steeple]

I wasn't quite that early

[calm zodiac]

The entire ARPG genre is built around killing monsters in a circle since the days we started killing diablo on top of a literal circle in diablo 1

[whole dust]

kinda like what we have been doing since 1.0

[south moat]

There's also new pinnacle boss.

[fathom umbra]

Trying to pretend otherwise is asinine (i agree with you)

[whole dust]

where?

[jade atlas]

You know the update is hype when all people can talk about is poe from 10 y ago

[sharp hedge]

surely the update will be worth the 8 9 months

[south moat]

Did you not check the post.. at all?

[whole dust]

no

[fathom umbra]

Reading is hard for some people, complaining is easier on the brain cells

[south moat]

Well see, I'm not going to feed the info to you with a spoon

[vocal hull]

Homie that WAS your job, go get that bag

[south moat]

Most ARPG players don't read at all

[night marten]

7, but yea its been a minute

[lost steeple]

It basically was. Lol I was playing like 12 hours a day for a couple years

[sharp hedge]

i meani dont care, as long as the next updates dont take as long

[calm zodiac]

It's what we do since diablo 1 came out lol

[sharp hedge]

then im cool with it

[inner sand]

my body is ready for march 26!

[calm zodiac]

We get in a circle, kill monsters in it, get stronger, kill stronger monsters in the next circle

[night marten]

part of why this one took so long was they were onboarding new hires. the hope is that this does speed up s5

[lost steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/lwts-lets-go-gif-25090667

[copper sorrel]

can't wait to play it on my tv

[lost steeple]

Ope I guess no embeds in here

[balmy arrow]

I don't know what else people need

[fathom umbra]

I guess poe2 makes thingse interesting, forcing you to run across the map the size of africa to kill mobs spread out

[south moat]

Yeaa people abused it

[sharp hedge]

good to hear

[calm jay]

And restructuring from their previous season design, no?

[viral halo]

sorry for the follow up^^
couldn't be GIFs itself not be higher res too? I don't mind GIF as a format, if it shows enough pixels 🙂

[lost steeple]

sigh I love the ARPG community

[coarse swallow]

size limitations unfortunately

[calm zodiac]

Until you get to t16s where you're killing delirium monsters... In a circle.

[fathom umbra]

real

[coarse swallow]

can't be bigger than 10MB per gif

[whole dust]

more echos is exactly what I didnt want to see..I think I will study for exams, skip this season and wait for poe2 0.5

[night marten]

i believe that was also part of the 'expanding' but not really sure 100%. but anything else wouldnt really make sense

[viral halo]

ok, got you 🙂

[night marten]

With fresh packs arriving, the Woven Supporter packs will be leaving the store on April 13th, so be sure to pick them up while you still can.

[south moat]

It's also the reason why we didn't have reactions available for a while
and why emotes from other servers are still disabled

[calm zodiac]

I got it day 1 hihi

[fathom umbra]

Thats like saying "More maps in poe is exactly what i didn't wanna see"

[calm zodiac]

I hope they put on better cosmetics in the store

So I actually have something to spend the coins from the supporter packs

[south moat]

The red panda looks cool

[elfin tundra]

Another day without a cute fit gf with nice feet, another sad day 🙁

[south moat]

Might get that one

[calm zodiac]

No no, the supporter pack is super cool, don't get me wrong, I already purchased it, I'm taking about the ones for sale in the store itself

[whole dust]

not really. somehow in poe2 I have fun in campaign, trying different builds, in LE, campaign is a chore and I was hoping for something cool in endgame but this is meh

[lost steeple]

Yeah I noticed that, very sad that I can't use my maniacally laughing cowboy emote in here but I'm sure people were spamming awful stuff as soon as they were given the chance lol

[turbid silo]

We are looking into the supporter pack price issue in-game.

[south moat]

Ah, right
I haven't actually looked at them in a while
At some point I tried looking for a wand mtx and there was basicaly none of hem

[calm zodiac]

@coarse swallow Anyway tell the Mtx people to stop being plate armor simps and release some cloth stuff, with a hood preferably

[lost steeple]

I gotta disagree here, I think the campaign in LE is pretty top tier among modern arpgs

[whole dust]

its too long and too ez, for me.

[calm zodiac]

My main issue with the campaigns is not completing the campaign itself, it's having to do side quests, that's what annoy me both in poe and LE

[south moat]

I honestly just mentally tune out during the campaigns of games after my first time going through it
But I always do play through the campaign on every character
for me it's important to see the character growing and getting stronger

[lost steeple]

I think it's mostly in a good place balance wise, though I agree it could be a bit harder.

[ancient surge]

LE campaign is actually an experience, unlike PoE. That said, repetition can get boring regardless of quality. PoE did have that magic of making the campaign a "turn brain off, get to end game, forget you went through campaign" feeling to it.

[unborn relic]

That’s how I feel about LE, too. Only difference is that it’s easier to miss bits of Last Epoch’s

[lost steeple]

Strongly agree on all points lol but even 13 years later I still mostly play through even POE's campaign casually enough that it takes like 7-9 hours depending on the build lol I've never been one to rush and speed run it

[ancient surge]

Faster than my 11 hour record and yet I couldn't exactly tell you much about the campaign in either poe titles.

[lost steeple]

In mirage it took like 10 but I was sick af while playing it lol

[south moat]

Tbh the LE campaign is intentionally easy
Makes it easier for newer players to get into it
And since the end game is the actual main content of the game it can get you used to stuff but doesn't really need to be hard

[lost steeple]

Fair enough lol

[fathom umbra]

if you want a hard campaign, POE is right there... but the point of an arpg is the end-game

who cares if it's ball-bustingly hard or not as you level up, really?

[lost steeple]

Yeah that's what I mean about it mostly being in a good place already. LE has always come across like it was meant to be new ARPG player friendly in a way poe1 simply isnt

[ancient surge]

I care that LE impressed me enough to remember things about it more than PoE ever has. Notably: I never felt the environment of the maps was... more than there to tell me where the map limits are. LE is different in that regard.

[kind vale]

when does the Paid class come out? in this upcoming patch?

[hallow mist]

remember guys PoE is free 🥰

[night marten]

you can also equip those veterans boots if you want a harder LE campaign

[topaz path]

Shame pinnacle boss looks similar to aberoth and void based, would be cool to have a different aesthetic

[night marten]

whenever the expansion is coming out. there is no date

[ancient surge]

PoE is free until you want to be efficient with your hideout time. Then the wallet comes out.

[calm zodiac]

We need the freezing exarch and the eater of dimensions

[kind vale]

So not this next league launch? (PoE calls all major patches expansions so I am just trying to understand terminology here)

[cerulean plaza]

and remember GGG's "vision" XD

[calm zodiac]

No, Poe is free until you reach endgame, after that you can't possibly play it properly without stash

[prime cliff]

Not this season nor the next, should come after that

[night marten]

as far as we know, s4 in march, and s5 are not the expansion, and will not have anything paid for. we dont know if the xpac is s6 or not. thats abit too far out yet

[ancient surge]

Which is what I meant. hideout time = time spent sorting loot into tabs.

[hallow mist]

L(AI)st Epoch is p(AI)d for mediocrity, just play Poe kekw

[kind vale]

Ah okay. So LE terminology is seasons = major patches, Expansions = major major patch/akin to new box set name

[south moat]

I can play and enjoy both

[kind vale]

sorrta like WoW naming

[vale tulip]

I'll stick to a game with a better crafting system. 🙂

[hallow mist]

cope !

[night marten]

generally, yes

[fathom umbra]

People whining about paid classes, you better not be playing diablo and have paid for the warlock class or the expansion b/c you have no room to talk

[calm zodiac]

You can't even do that, currency alone would fill your entire stashtab, like I sold some belts for 400 chaos each recently, how could you possibly do that without having tabs with stashes of 20c

[last crane]

Instead of trying to get player away from the game, just play your own games

[vale tulip]

Why cope when I can just craft T7 affixes on my gear while you gamble hundreds of exalts and divs on an item?

[eternal oyster]

I'm less likely to play PoE just from reading this

[night marten]

what? the post or the chat? lol

[hallow mist]

if you’re bad at crafting that’s your fault 🤷‍♀️

[void hatch]

grown ass man acting like this btw

[eternal oyster]

The textual content of this page

[vale tulip]

Bad at... gambling?

[ancient surge]

Exactly the point. You get 10 regular tabs by default, if I'm not mistaken. You want to even sell something on the market? Pay for premium or merchant tab. You want to not have stacks of currency in all your free tabs? Pay for specialized tabs to "handle" that.

[south moat]

4 regular tabs by default

[eternal oyster]

I'm not bad at anything I don't play

[calm zodiac]

You should. It's a great game too, don't let the diehard fans stop you from it, last epoch and Poe 1/2 are the best arpg experiences currently

[ancient surge]

Even better, I forgot since years back when I HAD to expand the stash.

[fathom umbra]

meanwhile LE lets you have 200!

[eternal oyster]

Noted

[cerulean plaza]

PoE 2 is not that good rn

[calm zodiac]

Oh no, you don't get 10 hihi, you start with 4 regular tabs if you don't buy any

[night marten]

hey yall, if you want to talk about the intracacies of poe and their monetization, please take it to #📚┃off-topic and let the general channel be about the new LE stuff please

[kind vale]

Seconded. PoE and LE are both great games that offer stuff the other doesn't.

[ancient surge]

0.4 EA version, I can see PoE2 not being that good... yet.

[eternal oyster]

D2 and PoE be like stash tabs behind pay walls

[tough sierra]

Fractured Legend pack purchased. EZ

[fathom umbra]

same

[cerulean plaza]

it was good at 0.1 and got worsen...

[calm zodiac]

That I agree, but it's temporary

[vivid portal]

Ngl the omen stuff is exceeding my expectations and I’m getting excited for it

[void hatch]

Season looking good ngl

[eternal oyster]

I can't think of a better game than Last Epoch and I can't think of a worse game than PoE

[fathom umbra]

Im sure PoE2 will be a very fun Dark Souls Game when its 1.0

[ancient surge]

Fair enough. Apologies for getting distracted by what has become a mess of... various opinions.

[kind vale]

I'm excited for the new pennicle boss. Uber Abby was so well done imo.

can't wait to see this one

[vivid portal]

I still haven’t been able to be one of the gigachads to beat uber Abby, that boss is the ultimate test of my patience

[eternal oyster]

It's not even a souls-like. Sekiro, Elden Ring, DS 1/2/3 are infinitely better

[ancient surge]

Diablo

[eternal oyster]

Nope that's the second worse game

[fathom umbra]

I mean im just throwing shade because its notoriously grindy

[ancient surge]

At any rate, yeah, I am curious to see how the new pinnacle feels like.

[eternal oyster]

I know right? GGG is so just easy mode.

[lost steeple]

Uber Abby is one of my favorite fights of all time tbh. I love poe1 but Abby beats them all except maybe Uber Elder

[fathom umbra]

I meant PoE2, i can't be arsed to get through the campaign, ive tried mult times

[kind vale]

the progression it took to finally beat it was so fun to me. Actually needing to do mechanics instead of out gearing it felt good. (even tho you can out gear it with some bonkers gear/bugged builds)

[eternal oyster]

idk what that means

[vivid portal]

My only huge concern is the wacky damage numbers some monsters have (like spirit barrage and some primal beasts) and I’m bummed it hasn’t been addressed yet. I’m hoping it is this patch

[ancient surge]

And when I say feels like, I mean I'm anxious to learn patterns, figure out strategies and die 100 times doing it :p

[lost steeple]

Real

[late plank]

Whoa the new systems look sweet

[vivid portal]

I’ve only managed to get to phase 3 and I’m sure it’s because I got lucky lol

[eternal oyster]

Elden Ring does it better

[night marten]

those big balance things generally come with the bigger balance patches like s4. but likely wont be talked about until actual patch notes

[lost steeple]

Spoken like someone who has played through ER exactly 1 time lol

[eternal oyster]

I admire your psychic powers

[ancient surge]

thornclaw nightmares

[kind vale]

during my first kill prog I felt like that a couple times but then just kept grinding and found myself consistantly getting to spots that I thought I was lucky to get to before. Eventually it all lined up, I played well and it died

[lost steeple]

I'm a huge Fromsoft geek but ER ain't it tbh. The first playthrough was magical but every subsequent one is just obnoxious

[eternal oyster]

Noted

[heady night]

yo we get a crow!

[south moat]

As much as I enjoyed my time in ER I didn't get the dlc

[lost steeple]

I got the DLC and it took me like 8 months to finish it because the game just feels like such a slog after a while and I didn't wanna bother

[eternal oyster]

git gud

[lost steeple]

I'm not even talking about the fights. Most of the bosses went down in like 3-5 attempts. I just mean the sheer amount of travel time

[wicked violet]

@night marten why you laughing at me? 😠

[night marten]

not laughing at you. just thoroughly enjoy when someone goes through all the pictures with such detail

[eternal oyster]

there is this amazing thing called fast travel

[lost steeple]

I love how you seem to think I'm riding horseback between every grace every time lmfao but I just mean in terms of getting to each place for the first time. I want to spend my time in a Fromsoft game fighting dudes not running around for 15 minutes trying to find the next grace

[wicked violet]

okay you're forgiven, but yeah those things stood out lmao

[eternal oyster]

I love how you tell me what I'm thinking and my motives. Your clairvoyance is impressive.

[night marten]

@eternal oyster @lost steeple i am asking nicely one more time to please either drop it or move to #📚┃off-topic

[elfin tundra]

Like, what is the safe amount of caffeine to have in one serving?

[lost steeple]

O7

[elfin tundra]

Scientifically

[fathom umbra]

yes

[ancient surge]

I regularly make long rants mentions about a few key points to consider when approaching uber abby, such as have a dps that enables you to hit his first shield part or better before he even lands his first flail hit. Then it's a lot of mechanics to take in, but patience and perseverance will get you accustomed to them and they are actually not that BS, but you do have to master the fine art of pointing on the right pixel to not get hit. And not getting him on an edge from where he can do his triple flail without you being able to dodge behind him, or if you're very cool, sidestep his pattern.
I encourage anyone who wants to beat uber abby to stick to it, but try to make sure you have a fighting chance first. Unless you can stoicly manage all the panic moments that may crop up :p

[zenith pewter]

^

[dusk breach]

Is there any alternative leveling up method yet? I'd love to try the new season but the thought of having to go through the whole campaign for the 4th time is really holding me back.

[kind vale]

Lizard_IRL did a 15 minute Uber abby kill with heartseeker. So you don't really need to burst his sheild down immiedately. You can do the fight slow, just gotta master movement and mechs.

[night marten]

nothing close to what you are asking for

maybe something when the xpac drops, but i wouldnt hold my breath on anything tbh

[south moat]

No
You can skip parts of the campaign with the dungeons (if you have the keys)
but you'll still need to do some side quests for the passives + idol slots

[dusk breach]

Yeah, I've done the skips. That's too bad. The campaign is good, but it's getting pretty tiresome by this point.

[fathom umbra]

Yet people do PoE's campaign each season 🤣 but i get your point, it can be tiresome, but its easy, sooo not as bad as it COULD be

[dusk breach]

I got tired of PoE's campaign too. Pretty big reason I stopped playing that. I'll probably still try the new LE season, but I'll be super bored the first while. Lol.

[night marten]

they did change their mastery stance...so you dont have to do it as often

just if you are actually changing base classes

[kind vale]

I like trying to speed run the campgin personally. but it also serves a "re-introduction" to LE for me too. Juggling other games has my fingers forget the LE feel

[night marten]

but like going from sorc to rm is just gold now

[ancient surge]

Well, I did mention, if you can keep your cool, the patterns are not too difficult. I can't keep my cool and focus indefinitely (more like ADHD levels), so I do need a higher dps to stand a chance.

[eternal oyster]

People just rush through PoE campaign to get to mapping. They all call the campaign the tutorial.

[night marten]

pretty much the same thing here tbh

[eternal oyster]

I tend to lose interest once I get to empowered timelines

[vivid dust]

wasnt this season supposed to have big monolith changes or is that the next one

[night marten]

i dont think so. tho it looks like there are some changes

i think most of the 'big' stuff was for the xpac

[bronze vale]

interesting atlas memory / astrolabe mix

[night marten]

looks like most of it was xpac

[fathom umbra]

People could look at the campaign notes and still complain "Where's Da CoNtEnt?!!?!"

[silent pivot]

IIRC there was supposed to be some monolith updates in season 3 that ended up too big to fit in the update (scope creep), and I believe Mike said they were in season 4; there are also more updates coming later

[turbid silo]

There are more details about other Monolith changes later in Hype Week.

[void pike]

In-game supporter packs are priced for the same price and the links don't work

[proven grove]

Oh man, so we have to wait for season 4 and 5 for the expansion? Do we have a ballpark ETA on that? It's looking like it'll be a 2027 release 😭

[turbid silo]

They aren't "crazy", but there are other things. QoL imo.

[kind vale]

Any CoF changes for hype? 🙂

[eternal oyster]

Is Lightning Blast Runemaster good?

[south moat]

Wait, are you saying that this isn't the only part of the hype week? not just a hype day

[south moat]

Extremely

[fathom umbra]

hype week 😉

[turbid silo]

Yes, each day is a new post during Hype Week

Revealing more about the update

[south moat]

Ah, I guess my sarcasm wasn't clear enough

[turbid silo]

I rarely get sarcasm through text sorry

[night marten]

the xpac is almost certainly next year, yea. s5 is prolly this year tho

[fathom umbra]

ya dropped this: /s

[kind vale]

Fingers crossed S5 doesn't release same week as Mythic raiding in WoW lol

[night marten]

someone has already noticed some changes, lol

https://discordapp.com/channels/368953963267096586/414298693257265155/1483143831003332889

[fathom umbra]

Lemme consult my crystal ball LUL

[proven grove]

Tragic 😭😭 I love this game I just wish the content pace was faster, but I get that they're no Blizzard with the resources to rework the game every 3 months

[fathom umbra]

also, season 5? Wouldn't mythic raiding be... a week after normal/heroic? as in this month or april

[main frigate]

400c for the new uber boss is quite interesting because maybe I can kill that this time 🤔

Uber Aborrth is no way.

[kind vale]

I have Mythic raiding release, M+ release, then LE release 2 days later. Then OSRS League 2 weeks later lol.

[south moat]

It's not uber boss

[fathom umbra]

season 5 is months away is what im saying, 3-5 months away

[night marten]

you and just about everyone else. hopefully their new hires this season will make the next faster

[frosty ridge]

where can we see what the new supporter packs look like in game. for the last couple ones there was a video that showcased them

[kind vale]

Yeah I know, but S4 is killing me so I am hoping lol

[main frigate]

en? I read pinnacle encounter as uber boss

[frosty ridge]

yes that is also what i assumed. actually i think this is a pinnacle boss not an uber

[south moat]

DerrickG linked them in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[south moat]

Normal Aberroth is also pinnacle boss

[dreamy sentinel]

wow, we got chat now, super nice! ❤️

[fathom umbra]

my brain is a little fuzzy so i think i mis-interpreted what you meant, but i think i get it now

[main frigate]

Oh make sense. hhhhh so it maybe harder than Aborreth

[turbid silo]

Supporter Pack YouTube videos

[south moat]

You were already told that the difficulty is between aberroth & uber aberroth

[fathom umbra]

I totally see the new boss as bein between Abby and Uberoth

[quick wraith]

I got the pack with the bear but it's not in game yet, is it only after new league?

[fathom umbra]

3/26

[south moat]

Oh wait nvm it was a reply to someone else, not you kirra. Sorry

[quick wraith]

thanks

[ancient surge]

If the new pinnacle boss is a little less harder than uber abby, I have hope for the 0.1% of player base killing the uber version of this one at a later date when it gets uberified.

[void pike]

All supporter packs are priced for 10 USD in-game, is it just my client? (I created a bug ticket anyway)

[fathom umbra]

I like the uber hard bosses, gives mea field goal to reach when ive done most other stufff

I have extreme dedication if nothing else

[proven grove]

Please 🥺🥺🥺 this is my favourite arpg life feels so hollow without it

[ancient surge]

Indeed, some of us really do need a goal to aim for in a game, or...

[main frigate]

thanks, just wonder where Derrick mentioned that in his post

[turbid silo]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/temporary-client-patch-roll-back-1-3-7-to-1-3-6/80564/1

[void pike]

Thank you, sir 🙂

[turbid silo]

No problem!

You can still purchase them on Steam.

[south moat]

Anyway, so far it's looking promising

[night marten]

he mentioned it in the discord. which is why i gave you the picture

[void hatch]

lol. there's someone downvoting every single comment on the reddit post

[viral halo]

The legend Supporter Pack looks so effing gorgeous.... that sword and that armor....

pristine, for me ❤️

[fathom umbra]

Bought mine, I wanted that panda too

[night marten]

what? a malcontent on reddit? never

[rancid pulsar]

man I am kinda screwed for not having all the recent content fresh in my mind lol, I barely know what half of everything means

[nimble mural]

do the fracture vanquisher also unlocks the other 3 packs? the cheaper ones

[fathom umbra]

Someone needs to touch grass

[ancient surge]

One of these days I'll dig up a new pocket of oil and afford living expenses and cosmetic packs... one of these days.

[night marten]

you get all the lower tiered content, yes

[calm jay]

Tbh I think most subs have one of these

[nimble mural]

gotcha, ty

[nimble mural]

im buying it

[night marten]

the legend is the high one tho, make sure you get the right one

[strange umbra]

Good morning Travelers!

HYPE TIME

[south moat]

Gm Muffin

[night marten]

nay sir, hype time was 82 minutes ago

[nimble mural]

i cant read lmao

ty sir

[ancient surge]

Where someplace is morning, some other place it's evening. Good day sir!

[strange umbra]

started yes - but it is a continual state of being

get on my level bruh

lol

[night marten]

we are now in the waiting on next hype time, for 22 hours and 37 minutes

[south moat]

Yeah, past 7pm here already
Can't wait to sleep early today tbh

[nimble mural]

i cant read x2

[night marten]

all g. steam has way too many words on it. lol

[nimble mural]

thanks i almost mess it up

[rancid pulsar]

gotta be honest my eyes are kinda glazing over reading about echo chains and omen windows and timeglass fragments and tilted towers

[night marten]

that would have been an expensive mixup. lol

[rancid pulsar]

it all sounds cool but it's a lot

[south moat]

Also new pinnacle boss

[night marten]

isnt...that what we all wanted?

[turbid silo]

Happy to try to answer questions if you have any 🙂

[rancid pulsar]

I mean as in, many big word giving my tiny brain a headache

[night marten]

what is the meaning of life?

[turbid silo]

If i knew that, I'd be retired 😄

[west ivy]

my steak is too juicy, my lobster too buttery, my bed too soft type of shit going on

[inner finch]

My Falconer too buffed

[night marten]

i cannot wait to see the 18 nerf bats taken to falcon this patch

[south moat]

Falcon getting equipped with extra bats

[nimble mural]

give falconer some love

[night marten]

absolutely not

not until it gets an eagle skin

and not one second before

[nimble mural]

american falconer i see

[night marten]

for better or worse

[rancid pulsar]

removed a 0 from all damage numbers on falconer skills.

finally, peace

[night marten]

honestly, would still be strong

[ancient surge]

Removed falconer from the game, falconer still too strong.

[fathom umbra]

Factor of 100 more like it,

[high kettle]

dont worry they will nerf falconer 20 more times before they actually nerf sentinel

[fathom umbra]

Or hell even 1000

[night marten]

is sentinel as a whole an actual problem tho?

[nimble mural]

i may have missed it but, the new pinacle boss has fixed difficulty right?

[night marten]

it is between abby and ubby from what we are told

[ancient surge]

400 corruption requirement, probably fixed.

[nimble mural]

ok so it doesnt scale off corruption

[night marten]

like 95% sure it doesnt based on derrick and mikes comments

[nimble mural]

like abby and ubby

[real vine]

It has a fixed difficulty

[high kettle]

yeah warpath and erasing still broken

paladin still the best for hc

[nimble mural]

thanks

[high kettle]

what is the problem on falconer its just ballista

[rancid pulsar]

sentinel commits the crime of rewarding melee players egregiously for standing 5 centimeters from the boss, we can't have that

[night marten]

ok thats not a sentinel problem. thats a those skills problem.

falconer can put literally any skill on and be insane

[high kettle]

acid flask is broken but its played on all 3 masteries

and better on bd

[main frigate]

Oh, catch a wild Holly? Quite rare

[wispy notch]

Good to hear that it's between normal and uber abberoth. It's quite the difficulty spike between those two.

[night marten]

how dare we stand in melee range

[nimble mural]

i would disagree with "broken" but they are really good

[ancient surge]

Indeed, why are you not standing on top of?

[rancid pulsar]

go offscreen the boss like the genre intended you maniac!

[night marten]

yeah there is a gap in content there that i hope keeps getting addressed for sure

[urban bay]

Question are the seasons free or do we need to pay for them. Sorry it’s my first season only stated playing in season three

[south moat]

free

[urban bay]

Legend thank you 🙏🏻

[night marten]

the seasons are free. the only thing paid for is one future class currently

and cosmetics

[urban bay]

Thank you so much

[fathom umbra]

Yup, seasons and legacy are also same content wise

[night marten]

i havent killed it yet cuz im not a falconer

[urban bay]

Oh nice

[ancient surge]

A single class? I thought there was something about one subclass per base class?

[night marten]

we dont know what it entails yet. we just know its a 'paradox class'

[ancient surge]

Ahh, I see

So a class with its own subclasses then.

[night marten]

perhaps

[wispy notch]

I tried uber as a poison lich with mid gear, no chance unless I grind out some better stuff, get some sorely needed bugfixes and you know... play better. Like waaay better :p

[night marten]

or something entirely different.

[rancid pulsar]

you have to play a subgame of europa universalis to pilot your character

[west ivy]

at some point a dev said it was easier to add subclasses than to add a new entire class but we don't know what's going to happen

[ancient surge]

Something unexpected, like the spanish inquisition?

[south moat]

Poison isn't very strong currently
It's probably the weakest dmg over time effect we have

[night marten]

you know what, maybe

[warm stratus]

Paradox class will be unique somehow ?

[night marten]

i actually think mike talked about it last dev stream a little. a whole class is like 15+ skills. a subclass is a fraction of that.

[south moat]

We don't know the details but yes.

[ancient surge]

As Brandenburg in Eu5 1.1, specifically.

[night marten]

we assume so. there are no real details

[surreal canopy]

How do I recieve items from fractured legend pack? I bought it, but dont have it in appearance inventory

[night marten]

also again the paradox class isnt coming in s4 or s5

[night marten]

you wait for s4 cuz they dont exist yet

[south moat]

They are available after the season is out

[vocal sonnet]

tbh I may go warpath this season

nice lazy s2w

[west ivy]

I think I'm gonna do some sort of spell VK but I might also play bladedancer

[high kettle]

I think its just ptsd from earlier seasons

[west ivy]

possibly ignite FG, which probably will not work very well

[nimble mural]

i really wanna try the new bane of winter

[high kettle]

I dont think falconer is even close to primalist or sentinel rn

[wispy notch]

I've caught on to that from discussions here on the discord. But it doesn't matter to me, I'm just having fun playing the game, bringing my own build ideas to life and see what happens.
Fairly sure a better player than me could beat uber abberoth with a poison lich though, it wasn't -that- bad.

[night marten]

depends on your application skill...but its not that bad

[nimble mural]

not sure yet if i should do VK o SB

[ancient surge]

I'm patiently waiting for the actual patch notes, see if any mage or acolyte builds catch my fancy. (spoilers, they are the first things I look for)

[west ivy]

people keep saying falconer got nerfed too hard but it was the first to 100 wasn't it

[night marten]

bear is the only thing that might actually be better than falcon. but that is just one build compared to the entire class

[nimble mural]

was falconer broken in S3? i didnt see much of it compared to S2

[high kettle]

first 3 characters to lvl 100 are tornado players

best arena skill is also tornado

[night marten]

its been broken since release. lol

[nimble mural]

many things were brpken on release xd

[low cradle]

Holy hell memories of the observer is sick for people who don't like mindless grinds

[night marten]

not quite like falconer was

[west ivy]

I never got to play blast knife when it was cool 😭

[night marten]

sames

tbh i missed a lot of actually nutty builds

[low cradle]

Honestly I don't care what happens to falconer. As long. As they make sure "Not best 2 builds" marksman and blade dancer are functional.

[high kettle]

bear, crows, frogs

[nimble mural]

sameee

[high kettle]

reflect

tornado

[low cradle]

Classes that have like 2 clearly optimal builds kill the game for me.

[nimble mural]

i played it for like 10 hours maybe

[west ivy]

blast knife was such a funny concept though
slap a bomb on someone and it's actually exploding arrows

[high kettle]

I think its just the past experience

people also think shadow daggers is still broken when its nothing more than a lvling build

it falls off a cliff after 300c

[low cradle]

That's one thing warlock did really really well imo.

There's like 8 archetypes

All fully supported

[night marten]

i have not heard one person complain about SD

but it is just easy lvling

just like firestarter torch

[low cradle]

Shadow daggers in general just feels super anti fun.

[high kettle]

I have seen a content creator think shadow dagger was the reason people were one shotting uber in 1.2

when it had nothing to do with it

[low cradle]

You don't play a crit class to crit on an ailment. You dont play an ailment class to do crit hit damage

[ancient surge]

Every class has plenty of "viable" builds. Some err on the side of "viable for easy content" and other on the side of "viable for everything if you like everything dying as you look at them funny"

[night marten]

yeah. the ole 'the guy in the video said it'

lol

i wish we had a litmus test for content creators sometimes

like some really shouldnt be making videos

about anything, ever

[low cradle]

But yeah I'd personally love if shadow daggers as a concept was just removed or reworked.

Surprise it's toxic design

[night marten]

this is accurate

[low cradle]

Any mechanic anyone else would want deleted from rogue?

[ancient surge]

The rogue? I kid, never played the class.

[nimble mural]

not a mechanic but i feel like marksman skills are too expensive for what they offer, mana wise

look at det arrow for example

i absolutely hate generator-spender playstyle

[night marten]

thats like all of MM. lol

[nimble mural]

yup

[broken yarrow]

New Season Startes today ?

[nimble mural]

march 26th

today starts hype week

[ancient surge]

I don't personally care about the broken builds, I tend to look for strong builds that do not rely on being broken or Ahem extremely imbalanced.
And then I pick a theme that looks fun.

[low cradle]

I agree

[vocal sonnet]

is warpath still strong?

[low cradle]

But deleted or rebalanced ?

[night marten]

for s3, yea. for s4, patch notes are friday

[vocal sonnet]

aah right may as well wait

I just want something nice and easy to play that I dont need to farm lp3's with to kill uber aberoth

[nimble mural]

rebalanced maybe

[rocky niche]

The supporter packs looks good

Finally

My only complaint is the armour looking more like porcelain than glass.

[fathom umbra]

but glass armor isnt that effective /s

[main frigate]

do you & your team design omen window as similar counter as like as rift beast, kill mobs -> get currencies -> do deals to get different loots and a few branches on enemies to correspond to different altars?

What I ask is the logic chain behind.

Not sure can I use my understanding on rift beast to understand how omen windows work

I thought potential connections echo chains and omen windows have but I have no idea yet

#📚┃off-topic message
That's my guessing about how to play omen windows before, I want to verify which part I went wrong

[inner finch]

Besides supporter packs, it would be cool if there was a video showcasing all the new skill MTXs

(naively assuming there's plenty of new ones to showcase)

[real vine]

I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but echo chains aren't that similar to the Rift Beast lineage mechanic, and Omen Windows don't really have a direct equivalent to Rift Beast lineages.

If I remember correctly, the different item rewards from Omen Windows, such as altars, are detailed in the next hype week post, so I don't want to spoil that information early 😄

[main frigate]

Oh it's a good hint. So I can ignore hype week posts in this week, thanks!

[inner finch]

Also, an exceedingly rare Trasochi post

[main frigate]

she's Holly

[inner finch]

ik

[main frigate]

Next hype week post = the post tomorrow or a hype post in next week? Want to confirm the meaning

[fathom umbra]

3/17 (tomorrow, 22 hours from now, im assuming anyway)

[ancient surge]

I often question how much can even be done in an arpg on a conceptual level. The premise is typically a power fantasy of wading through waves of creepies and crawlies and the odd entity that is even more powerful that the character still overcomes one way or another. And we do it in isometric viewport.
How much is left out there that has not already been explored? Have we circumnavigated the arpg genre?

[fathom umbra]

Basically, i find it funny people constantly demand something new, but really, what is there to explore? It boils down to just micro-iterations of prior concepts

20 some odd years of arpg history

[muted cape]

Yeah looks like season 4 is packing a wallop of content that I had no idea lmao

[ancient surge]

That do be why I ask myself that whenever someone complains that there's nothing new. How much new is out there to be explored?

[inner finch]

The tastiest sauces take the longest cooking time

(i made that one up)

[fathom umbra]

and this is day ONE of the week too 😉

[muted cape]

Le is so back

[short vessel]

Poe1 has already proven peak arpg design is killing enemies in a circle

[muted cape]

And holly is giga 🧠

[main frigate]

👀 Let's see which details will EHG spoiler about omen windows tomorrow

[ancient surge]

Sometimes in a line, and lines and circles conflict.

[fathom umbra]

What if we killed enemies... in a trapezoid?!

[ancient surge]

I think the biggest brain twister is a spiral stairwell.

[muted cape]

New pinnacle boss too? Holy

[inner finch]

Well, to be fair

most of what was shown in terms of basic mechanics today was teased before

[fathom umbra]

Peoplle wanted a boss, now they get one, hope they find a new complaint LUL

[south moat]

There was already one that we should've gotten 10 new bosses and "no new breach mechanic"

[muted cape]

Ohh a couple forum posts already irked me lol

[coral vector]

Only one new boss?

[main frigate]

I can give you one now.

The new boss is too hard

[main frigate]

lol the other one ⬆️

[fathom umbra]

my point being;. Alot of people's complaints are just to make noise, sure there are some credible ones, but i just roll my eyes lately at ALOT of complaints

[muted cape]

One new pinnacle boss and 5 harbinger like bosses all tied to the new league mechanic and the 5 bosses can buff other enemies it says too

[ancient surge]

I, for one, am more curious in how the very much tested old notions can be blended into something unique that can stir my ADHD's interest. In general. LE has provided thus far, eager to see the new pinnacle and feel myself struggling in a good way.

Like, people have mentioned how the mechanic of our soon to hit cycle season whatever looks a bit like harby and mini-breach from poe combined with a twist: you actually fight the harby when it's done.
Sure, but... How will it blend together in the form of the feel of the fight/challenge/thingy? That is the question I am still eager to answer for myself.

If we are to simply argue that it's been done before, well... People have lived before us, why are we? (this is the level of my facepalm)

If anything, I can appreciate the design of the new bosses. The eye. It sees. It observes. And then it firez da lazor.

[heady night]

oh whats that pretty run above the corruption rune in the post

its where they talk about trade in

[balmy arrow]

[ancient surge]

The yellow thingy?

[acoustic palm]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/in-a-wild-turn-for-the-subnautica-2-lawsuit-a-judge-orders-krafton-to-restore-fired-unknown-worlds-ceo-and-gives-them-9-more-months-to-earn-usd250-million-bonus/

[heady night]

@ancient surge oh yea just realzied thats a woven echo for sure

[fathom umbra]

inb4 people be like "This is why its bad for EHG"

[muted cape]

Off topic. You want to discuss that use #📚┃off-topic thanks.

[acoustic palm]

-# Considering that Judd said that EHG is partners with them and that many things allign together, is it offtopic? /s

[coarse swallow]

It's not related to Last Epoch in any way.

[heady night]

https://youtu.be/D7sVWhEu7t0?t=6 thats a big snake

[coarse swallow]

big danger noodle. The bucatini of danger noodles.

[pliant coral]

Is there some kind of beta release for collecting feedbacks now?

with new stuff*

[coarse swallow]

We have a closed Community Tester program comprised of hand-picked individuals who get early access to content to provide feedback under NDA. There is no application process for this program, rather we look for players that are active in the community, are in good standing, and provide good bug reports, feedback, or conversation in the community.

[low cradle]

The problem with rogue is the less broken builds are balanced around the broken ones.

This is what I'd consider a fundamental flaw of a lot of last epoch design.

Because there are no scalers. Builds that do more damage but would be less tanky just take the same defensive nodes the tanky ones do or augment with a tanky skill. Unless your damaging skill has a defensive layer. You're just as defensive as you want to be.

This means outside of rare cases like judgment if your skill does less damage it's just a worse skill

Rogue is the peak of this problem since it's designed around spamming specific skills and cooldowns on the others.

[ancient surge]

I can't speak for design philosophy, but from my knowledge, the few memes surrounding arpgs kind of hold everywhere: "Don't get hit" and "nothing can hurt you if nothing is alive on the screen". These two form the basis of the glass cannon.
Evasion as a mechanic is the quintessence of this: Evade as many hits as you can, and make sure that one hit doesn't kill you. You don't need that many layered defenses if your main defensive mechanic is not being hit.

[low cradle]

That's simply not true. Especially now that we have crit avoidance.

Most spike damage is arpgs is multi hit meaning evade is actually better. Since it can save you a few of the ailments you'd get from earlier sections of the hit, dot, or would kill a Dr focused character anyways.

[amber prawn]

Please don’t notify me again that way, I have this discord completely muted. There’s not a reason to bypass that

[low cradle]

Dot is an interesting problem to solve for rogue but I think the least magical character having a weakness to life draining magics but avoiding poison blades just makes sense thematicly.

[coarse swallow]

How do you mean? As far as I'm aware, there is no way to bypass a discord mute as it's completely client-side.

[ancient surge]

Indeed, that came out of the blue and it's either a discord bug or someone specific?

[silent pivot]

Muting and disabling notifications are two different things.

[ancient surge]

Well, the more you learn (talking about myself)

[silent pivot]

Muting prevents unread indicators from showing up, and very little else.

[low cradle]

To add a layer to this POE has proven it's better to be lucky than good when pushing via delve metas before they nuked evasion and block in delve

[amber prawn]

@coarse swallow not sure, just got a notification in this chat which all are turned off and ended up talking to you. I like this game but I’m not sure how the notification bypassed anything that’s had been said for the last year or more

[low cradle]

It's a very weird situation where developers don't want evasion to be tanky therefore it's never allowed to be

Even though mechanically it is the sauce

[silent pivot]

If you see notification pings that just means you muted but didn't actually block the ping.

[ancient surge]

Yeah, the everyone keyword is a direct reference that applies to anyone part of the server, online or not.

[silent pivot]

I've had the same issue in the past on other servers. I'm very careful to do both when I don't want the angry red dot to appear, now. 🤣

[ancient surge]

So, if you turn off all the notifications, it should block that.

[amber prawn]

@coarse swallow no worries tho, I planned on leaving anyways, the game doesn’t really hold its own. Thanks tho. Good luck!

[south moat]

Yeah, if you mute all notifications it doesn't even show the ping
But if you just mute the server it doesn't do that

Not that it's relevant here anymore

[ancient surge]

My approach to software in general is on the should basis, especially in the age of AI code...

[willow sentinel]

Make sure to announce when you leave in every discord

[pliant coral]

Understandable ^^

[nova lark]

1.4 trophy please @turbid silo

[round lake]

I guess it limits and narrow perspectives. You more seek acceptance than real testing in my opinion when its like you said. Just favourism

[coarse swallow]

While the CT program can certainly provide testing information, that's not its purpose. We're looking for design feedback, which requires an understanding of systems and communication ability.

When it's more open, it's more treated as an early access than a feedback environment. We'd prefer fewer testers that actually provide feedback than more testers that just log on to play it early and leave without saying anything. This is something we went through, and also caused a number of issues with leaks from the program.

[round lake]

Remember
Most loud part of community is just most emotional part. The critique we see the most can come from lowest % part of community. Negative feedback is important and you guys clearly push same and same mindset over and over without realizing how this game need better models, more appealing characters and skins that eill fit those models. D4 barb vs lrimalist. Primalist is just skinny beggar. You are pushing just content for the group that will not increase sales - and doing b2p + skin + dlc will sink it up.

[ancient surge]

People are not all the same. Some try to be helpful but can't, others look helpful but are not. The select few that can pull off constructive criticism that is on point are the valauble ones.

[round lake]

You cant that simply define it. Thats why its important to have different people with tottal different mindset

[wet mauve]

Remember Me

[coarse swallow]

We don't just look at community contributions, but actually largely at how they submit bug reports and feedback in game - things only we ever see.

If the players aren't willing to communicate to us or provide feedback under normal circumstances, we wouldn't expect them to be willing to go out of their way to write constructive feedback in a CT program. We'd expect them to continue to do the same.

We look for players with all levels of experience, and we don't ask that players support us to be in the CT program, they just have to be civil, provide feedback, and be able to be constructive in that feedback. That's not something just anyone can do, and we appreciate our CT's for providing that for us.

[round lake]

Like do content: yes real arpg players come
But community is made from casuals. 90% of gamers come to graphic, dopamine and nice looking characters. Thats why even better in gp poe have not even 1/5 of players from diablo.

[silent pivot]

An alarming number of people are absolute animals when providing feedback TBH, and it just makes me think they have never been on the other side of things getting feedback like that.

It's a complete waste of time to behave that way, because the other person is inevitably just going to smile and nod and then completely ignore whatever you said.

Not every time of course, but a lot of the time.

[wet mauve]

I mean, that's the nature of feedback.
If you want to get good at anything you're gonna face feedback that tears you apart.

It's on the receiver to figure out what the feedback actually critiques though.

[ancient surge]

I have ample experience in meaning well, but not actually being helpful. It is by this lens that I refrain from going out criticizing where I have no reason to be, since I don't personally have a good grasp on communication skills. Best I can offer is analytics data and maybe the odd bug report.
Being too invested is one of the key points that detracts from the quality of a report.

[wet mauve]

e.g. someone complaining about servers in a fighting game could have a non networking related fix. e.g. slowing the meta down to compensate for lag.

[ancient surge]

But then that someone never checks their own internet connection and other network settings and replies back if they are clear on their end.

The amount of players vs the number of people going through reports kind of requires a sort of... statistical relevance, I guess?

[silent pivot]

The thing about feedback when running a large project is though, by it's very nature you get a LOT of feedback about everything. You can't possibly act on all of it, so the stuff that just consists of insults and unactionable nonsense goes absolutely nowhere.

[ancient surge]

And is also wasted time.

[wet mauve]

Yeah, usually from what I've seen is using weighted metrics for that. It's not the most accurate but you can see how common key phrases and words are.
It's pretty hard to dissemenate information and critiques at scale.

[ancient surge]

The topic was about the small team of testers that are not part of the company per-se. People the dev team can trust to provide good feedback that they can go over in detail.

[wet mauve]

I wouldn't trust a team of testers 100%, qa feedback can be great but it can be skewed, intentionally messed with, or just miss obvious things.

[ancient surge]

Because of course the rest of us are out here, talking, playing the game, providing data for the analytics :p

And also, I speak not for EHG, I am but a player of their game.

It is also the way I understand what Kain, the actual EHG employee already addressed the issue.
We do what we can from here, if they want someone to work with from the community in a more direct form, it's on a "don't call us, we'll call you" basis.

[lofty cedar]

Will there be Primal Supporter packs whole season?

[night marten]

The primal packs are staying.only the weaver packs are leaving this season

[muted cape]

Yo btw... what the heck is the limit on showing packs on the forum? The pages are getting out of hand fast yikes

[ancient surge]

My best personal stories regarding online communities are about being asked to be an officer for a guild or once even a moderator somewhere. Always had to turn it down on the basis of "trust me, you don't want that".

[void hatch]

Bro this season already looks sooo much better than S3. I can't wait lol

[uneven fern]

hey. i started yet another new build, online legacy. and i can't get to "the northern road" in the first act. it repeatedly freezes when loading zone. any tricks to it? it's been a while since i made a new character.

[strong echo]

If I make a t7 mod into a t8, can I put that in a primal unique with lp?

[ancient surge]

T8s are sealed

sealed affixes cannot be transfered via sanctum.

[strong echo]

Ah

That's good info

That's still pretty good need to find a t7 black hole relic

[ancient surge]

I'll take a wild guess that they made T8 mods be sealed in season 3 because sealed affixes were never transferable.

Also creates an odd use case of sealing a useless T1 affix on an exalted item to prepare for sanctum.

[wide sigil]

Could a mod/admin please add a discord event for when the next league starts so that we can see the countdown. Or is the launch not finalised yet?

[simple bison]

This assumes that "casuals" would be willing to sign an NDA, and volunteer their time and effort to test a game and write constructive feedback/bug reports. Which I think is fair to say isn't the case for the vast majority of "casuals". And if it's just an open application anyone can say anything, get in and then not do anything and it would just become bloated with people who are in the program but don't contribute, making leaks and such a lot easier

[ancient surge]

That or a pinned post with a discord timestamp thingy?

[simple bison]

It is

I'll ask about making an event

[ancient surge]

This one bids ye all a good ole fun and productive time. The community here is rather refreshing for an arpg, but weary bones do need sleep.

[turbid silo]

Sleep well!

[vocal sonnet]

how accurate do you think the feedback on this is? do you think they'd be bias on a positive in order to keep part of the closed testers?

[coarse swallow]

I'm not sure what you mean. Feedback is always subjective.

[night marten]

You think the CT has to give positive feedback to stay a CT?

That is 100% not accurate. Lol

[vocal sonnet]

bit like how media who get 'early access for review' copies of games always glaze the game no matter what in order to keep access

[turbid silo]

I think the feedback they provide is neutral, constructive criticism to help us deliver the best product for all our players. (Not biased, literally what I read)

[coarse swallow]

Sorry, I see what you mean. No, we specifically tell our CT's they're allowed to speak against us internally and externally. We do not moderate feedback concerning us as a company. We just ask that they're civil.

[blissful glen]

where the achievements at?

[wide sigil]

Yeah the event is better as discord shows it in our local Timezone. Really handy

[night marten]

Hopefully coming with console release

[vocal sonnet]

while your both here, give us a spoiler

[simple bison]

They'll likely come with the orobyss expansion since PlayStation needs them afaik

[blissful glen]

when is that?

[simple bison]

We have no definitive release date

But likely late this year if not 2027

[night marten]

Bro you just got 2 forum posts of spoilers today. Lol

[vocal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[simple bison]

Damn carbon fiber

[blissful glen]

well wasted my money i could gotten it on sale then pay full price for nothing

[simple bison]

Fancy

[turbid silo]

Got em

Heh

[vocal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-dark-kermit-gif-13921433

this doesnt work quite as well if I cant post them lmao

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/boU7h.gif

[glass pendant]

Oh what was that muffin? Big falconer buffs I hear?

Perfect

[bronze turtle]

Honestly, I really like the new supporter packs. I think basically all of them have been good so far, but this one is just very good. Can't wait to get paid friday and buy them and especially to finally get that red panda, thing is to cute

[inner finch]

[muted cape]

Ngl last season it was the tucan and now I just have to buy this racoon lol

[turbid silo]

Champ's a Red Panda 😉

[muted cape]

Look at it ugh

[turbid silo]

LOL

[muted cape]

Ohh is that a panda lol

I thought it was rockets cousin

[bronze turtle]

i mean, according to real life stuff, apparently red panda's and racoons are closely related so to an extent, we have a red racoon

[simple bison]

There's an event now ^^

[strange umbra]

gonna drop the people's elbow on you

[visual zephyr]

I'm so hyped for the coming season

[turbid silo]

Woot woot, we are too!

[visual zephyr]

Nice!

[civic tide]

Will it launch on ps5 for next season?

If we got info ab that

[bronze turtle]

think last i heard, ps5 is still scheduled for roughly around the expansion which is still i think 2 seasons away including the one that is next week

[inner finch]

PS5 is Orobyss exp launch

so... somewhere in 2027, hopefully not too deep

[last crane]

my hopes are on january february..

[visual zephyr]

I am just happy LE is being managed by people who care and aren't just there for money

[heady night]

which is why i love the game and the people

[inner finch]

If we are getting S4 late March, the season will go on for 4 months at minimum, and with a statistical risk for stretching like melted cheese again, not counting S5 having a similar kind of scheduling, I would say that this is very very optimistic

[ionic vale]

legend is the highest tier of the supporter packs right

[stray forge]

Guys, how is last epoch season releases going? 1 season per year quarter?

[south moat]

No
This one took 7, season 2 was 4, 1 was long

[inner finch]

No crystal ball is powerful enough to know how long seasons last

[south moat]

You just know some people will say it's over already after a few days

[inner finch]

The real season is the friends we made along the way

[stray forge]

waiting sweatly behind keyboard
ping sound "new LE season is live"
panic scramble to reddit
"ThE nEw SeAsOn iS aLrEadY oVer!!! WheN NeW sEaSoN??"

[stray forge]

The real season is the charity rich player gave you while youre stumbling your way through the game

[silent pivot]

in the midst of "it's so over" I found there was, within me, an invincible "we're so back"

[stray forge]

and that fill you with DETERMINATION!

[wide sigil]

Awesome!!

[west ivy]

I saw some folks on reddit talk about how guild wars 2 was dead on the day an update was coming out

[signal mica]

First console release... so the second is Xbox.... hmmm

[hollow dirge]

Out of curiosity, has there been mention of a new “Corrupted” Faction for this season already? I noticed it in the discord channel roles with all the other factions but didn’t recall hearing about that anywhere yet

[bronze turtle]

i'm not sure if there has been an announcement, but they did mention an npc named apophis is basically the vendor to the corruption system it seems? apophis being the snake who takes the epochs powers in act 8 or 9 and we follow her to the past in the most recent act. it was said in the omen windows forum post for today

[brazen bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Az3ZePnFE

gz krafton

[hoary sedge]

Are we worried at all about the Krafton news coming out today?

[last crane]

Which news?

[hoary sedge]

https://www.ign.com/articles/judge-slams-subnautica-2-publisher-krafton-in-victory-for-fired-workers-orders-company-reinstate-boss-and-extend-250-million-bonus

[silent pivot]

Krafton paid $500 million outright for Unknown Worlds Entertainment, and had a $250 million performance bonus they tried to weasel their way out of. The recent news is a judge said they do in fact have to follow the terms as originally stated. I'm not super concerned about a company valued around 20 billion USD having to pay 250 million USD.

[stray forge]

Wrong server?

[last crane]

Yeah the saubnautica case is kinds ridicolous, cant understand why you make promises if you dont keep to them from the start ...

[stray forge]

Bro thats pretty old

[stray forge]

The fearmonger is already over and nothing changed

[silent pivot]

the CEO used ChatGPT to formulate a "takeover" strategy (yes, really -- this was revealed via court records) and it backfired on him

https://kotaku.com/subnautica-2-publisher-followed-chatgpts-advice-on-how-to-break-the-law-2000679155

[stray forge]

Nepotism when their nephew is challenged

[bold axle]

is there a showcase video of the new mtx anywhere? I can just see screenshots on Steam - the previous MTX sets had videos 😮

[muted cape]

No show case videos, but theres screenshot on the hype post on forums

[simple bison]

There are on their youtube channel
https://youtu.be/D7sVWhEu7t0?is=UpaOONNm1e1-J8e-

Each pack has its own video

That skull portal is pretty sick

[west ivy]

no it was because people were making a joke about how last epoch gets an update and people will immediately say it's dead

gw2 has the same thing happen

[south moat]

Tbh it happens with every game

Seen people saying that even about single player games
How it's dead now because it lost a lot of players

[heady night]

I want the next aninal to be a baby hippo

https://tenor.com/view/2020got-me-like-is-it-over-hippo-roll-gif-17260148

[simple bison]

Moo Deng?

[dark holly]

Are we talking about this one in here?? https://fxtwitter.com/culturecrave/status/2033647158264840323?s=46&t=RS2eHTUgsmwfmoK2cQNDsQ

EHG’s lawyers might wanna keep this case in their back pocket for when Krafton tries something lmao

[south moat]

Moo Deng is a pygmy hippo

Would probably still try to eat you if it was large enough

[lost elk]

Who needs more animals when you have Champ? #Champ4life

[dark holly]

They not only asked chatGPT, but it basically told them it wouldn’t work then they followed its instructions to the letter anyway

Absolutely insane stuff

[visual frigate]

i heard krafton recently got bopped in court too, so that may be in the cards

[dark holly]

They did. Forced reinstatement of the ousted CEO, the $250 million bonus is forcibly back on the table.

[visual frigate]

oh they got bopped-bopped

[dark holly]

Yeah. Big bopped.

[visual frigate]

i wonder i wonder what to league start, anyways. Do i take the bait and assume black hole is gonna be good?

[dark holly]

Krafton CEO over there just flat out going “ChatGPT just speaking purely hypothetically, how would I commit wire fraud? Show your work”

[visual frigate]

i thought that was youtuber hyperbole, you're telling me that was VERBATIM?

[dark holly]

No no that part is hyperbole.

I think.

But they did quite literally ask it to tell them ways to avoid paying the $250M bonus

That part is literal.

[south moat]

I don't think it'll be good enough as main skill tbh
Not that I know really

[sudden sequoia]

Is the Fractured Legend Pack out yet? I paid 59.99 for it today and got the 300 currency but no new cosmetics

[silent pivot]

Pre-Order Notice: The cosmetic items in this supporter pack will unlock and become available in-game on March 26th with the launch of Season 4 - Shattered Omens. Purchases made during the pre-order period (March 16th through March 26th @ 11am) will only see the Forum Titles and EP added to their account until the launch of Shattered Omens.

from the "About This Content" section on the Steam page for the Fractured Legend Supporter Pack

[karmic cedar]

LOL They're still going to add paid expansions?

[silent pivot]

they've said like 15+ times they're not, so idk where you're getting that from

[karmic cedar]

Goodie 😄

[sudden sequoia]

Ok Thank you! I bought that and the Woven Legend pack, since I’m starting the game. Just trying to support what looks like a great game.

[silent pivot]

the paradox class(es..? can't remember), which won't be out for like a year, are paid; the expansion and seasons are free

[karmic cedar]

lol paid class is ridiculous

[silent pivot]

don't buy it then, it's optional

[sudden sequoia]

Yeah I agree, the game will still have a free place for people everywhere, the paid stuff is for those who want it. It’s not a slap in the face or anything

[karmic cedar]

"We'll never charge ya"
Proceeds to charge for everything now lol

[silent pivot]

"everything" -> "one singular thing that doesn't even exist yet"

[south moat]

They also do still need to get funds for the company and the mtx didn't sell
they weren't making any profit for season 1 or 2
probably not 3 either, we don't know

Sure, they got money from Krafton but it's not exactly just out of the goodness of their heart and they will expect money back for their investment

[silent pivot]

yeah, and there's a weirdly vocal minority that thinks the game should just die rather than figure out how to become profitable

which I wholeheartedly disagree with, and would be mad if LE stopped getting updates

[west ivy]

people who show up every few months to talk shit, accuse everyone of being shills and then disappear

but keep coming back to complain without seemingly having touched the game

[glad kestrel]

Anyone know how much longer the current supporter packs will be available for?

[karmic cedar]

I haven't played in a while because a lot of skills, and descriptions aren't clear, and dont tell you what they do for modifiers, or how it scales, or shows you the total.

A lot of it is guessing and hoping it works the way you think

[heady night]

april 13th

[glad kestrel]

Thanks

[visual wadi]

or that it works at all lmao

[karmic cedar]

Which some things didn't work properly either... in season 3

[visual wadi]

for sure, i know when i stopped playing was when i saw the corrupted form passive for lich just didnt work. as in the part that says "always count as at low life" no clue if they fixed it by now but theyve always had trouble with stuff just not working

so yeah when they cant fix basic stuff like that in a reasonable amount of time i dont blame anyone for complaining about them charging for more stuff

[brazen bane]

ITs old? thew new news is new are you stupid

[stray forge]

I am stupid but thats irrelevant

[night marten]

Weaver packs leave the april 13th. Primal packs have all of s4 still

[glad kestrel]

Ah ok I was gonna fomo buy both of them, guess I can wait for Primal

[night marten]

They basically have a 2 season shelf life. Been the timeline for a few seasons now

[glad kestrel]

Oh was weaver from season 2?

[south moat]

Yeah

[strong knot]

Is there a pack for S1? Wondering if I have missed one.

[glad kestrel]

Yes

There was

I forget the name

[strong knot]

Sad.

[glad kestrel]

Yea there are many packs in poe I wish I had bought years ago. But its cool for the people that own them they get bragging rights.

[night marten]

Vanquisher i think?

[glad kestrel]

Nah I own it, but its not vanquisher

I forget the name

[night marten]

Eternal was s0 and abyssal was s1

[glad kestrel]

Abyssal

Thats it

[night marten]

Yeah. The vanquisher is a tier

[glad kestrel]

I didn't buy any of the eternal, you just didn't get enough for your money. The new packs are great though

[night marten]

Thats why i was confused

Yeah this seasons packs seem to be pretty solid

[glad kestrel]

I agree

[strong knot]

The abyssal pack, I remember that, the purple one…

[glad kestrel]

Yup

It had great cosmetics

[strong knot]

I will pretend this pack never existed.

[glad kestrel]

Lol, its all good. There are many more coming.

I buy so many cosmetics and battlepasses for diablo and I just end up using the same one

[strong knot]

That’s true. Only the best one survives

[main frigate]

Chip 🤘

[inner finch]

The spreadsheet master is back

[short vessel]

no offense but are you new to the arpg scene?

cos like

i've played a lot of the arpg's and descriptions not being clear, what they do for modifiers, how it scales or shows you accurate total damage/dps is VERY par for the course

internal damage/dps calculators are REALLY hard

to implement

and no game has an actual accurate one

none

your complaints are equally applicable to the gold standard arpg game poe1

so yeeeeah

complaints about bugs are valid tho

[south moat]

So many variables when it comes to the dmg

[karmic cedar]

Except last epoch is terrible with being simple to understand.

[short vessel]

unless you're comparing only a diablo and maybe torchlight? (idk what the latest one is like), it is way less complicated than the competition

[half vigil]

just out of curiosity... theyve never expressed that the expansion will trigger a launch for more consoles than just ps5 right? cuz i got some friends who play xbox that i think would like the game but....

[night marten]

Just ps has been announced

[karmic cedar]

Poe 1/2, grim dawn. Very clear lol

[half vigil]

well i doubted anything else was announced, but have they ever even hinted it could be a possibility

[short vessel]

LOL

[night marten]

Eventually. Maybe.

Felt more like it wasnt happening soon and def not with this xpac

[half vigil]

yeah was afraid of that but i doubt the expansion will happen before fall/winter at the earliest

[lost elk]

Which I've found surprising as traditional wisdom suggests porting from PC to XBox would be easier than PS. And if going through all the hoops for porting to PS, why not do Xbox at the same time...

[low cradle]

How much you bet spinny blades is almost strictly nerfed but way more versatile than the original form of umbral blades

[half vigil]

yeah i found that wierd too

[low cradle]

while umbral blades gets real uses

[half vigil]

like controller support exists but the most common controller to use is xbox as far as i'm aware. so why not port to xbox. i would assume they already have all the proper framework but i'm no dev and dont know coding so i could be very wrong

[silent pivot]

I'm quite certain Mike said that porting to PS5 would make further ports significantly easier, implying that yes they are in fact interested in doing so and just haven't committed to the idea yet.

[half vigil]

so interested but not planned for orobyss

[silent pivot]

"check back in 2029-2030 and we'll see where we're at" energy

[half vigil]

well considering they had to fall on their own sword and backtrack the promise of "all updates free we rely on cosmetics for funding" it's oossible it could take that long. it annoys me that they had to roll back that promise, but i understand it. it's a sacrifice they never intended to make, but you have to keep the lights on somehow

[silent pivot]

the current expectation is that orobyss and the ps5 launch will happen at some point in 2027; mostly because getting validated and approved for ps5 release takes a long time

[half vigil]

they did say it was planned for 2026 but i understand the update issue. warframe use to do it too. i used to play on ps4 years ago and it was always months inbetween when the update would hit pc, and when it would hit console

[silent pivot]

orobyss will probably be "ready for PC" at some point in 2026 as it's been in development for a while now, not sure what exactly their plan is tho

[half vigil]

i'm curious as to how the paradox classes will work

[south moat]

Same
But they haven't been willing to give any kind of explanation
stating that it would instantly reveal too much

[half vigil]

entirely possible

it could mean that the first class could be directly related to something dealing with orobyss and the expansion. would completely make sense to do that

[bronze turtle]

the only thing i can say from what ive heard and its just my understanding of it, is the fact that the paradoxes will obviously be special classes, but it sounds like they may only be classes, they potentially might not have masteries

[low cradle]

Rogue Shade Class.

Seems natural.

phys damage gets converted to necrotic, bleed time rot, poison damned.

[south moat]

That would be too easy tbh

[half vigil]

tbh i thought they meant an actual brand new class not connected to existing ones

[south moat]

We know no details

[half vigil]

yup it's all speculation till they tell us more. and i love to theorize and speculate. but of course there are people who scream at me for that acting like i'm trying to say this is what the devs will do ect

[silent pivot]

I think mike might have accidentally leaked something in one of the latest two dev streams, I remember him acting like he did a whoopsie; it was very minor though, I can't even remember what he said tbh

regarding paradox classes I mean

[half vigil]

it was a piece of armor that i saw in a vid or something cuz he went this was on the roadmap right... started looking around and went.. oh it's NOT on the road map at all... oops

he's just the rebb ford of ehg XD

[silent pivot]

oh I think I remember now

someone asked about shaman changes

and he was like "oh yeah pretty sure that's on the roadmap between season X and Y" -> "wait no it isn't WHOOPS"

I could probably find it if I spent like 20 minutes scouring twitch VODs, too much effort though

[true elk]

it's that they involve the player themselves doing time travel

you have to create a paradox to unlock them

[silent pivot]

given the theme of the game I'm expecting paradox classes to involve some sort of temporal paradox specifically

What happens if a time traveler alters the past in a way that prevents their actions from happening in the first place?

Someone travels back in time to discover the cause of a famous fire. While in the building where the fire started, they accidentally knock over a kerosene lantern and cause a fire, the same fire that would inspire them, years later, to travel back in time.

etc

maybe paradox classes will involve our character deciding to free the watcher way back in the ancient era, hoping to prevent orobyss from happening

butterfly effect on steroids

[half vigil]

i think it's sad they did away with the class specific intros for each of the characters

[south moat]

I don't think the paradox is related to the story of the character like that
would have to then make changes ot the campaign and so on

anyway, it's too late (or early) for this since it's 4am here
so good night

[silent pivot]

well it's not really a true paradox in the context of Last Epoch, since the devs already basically answered that question

there are many different branching timelines

based on events playing out differently

[half vigil]

oh i wasn't linking that to the paradox characters, it just popped into my head

[south moat]

Was more meant for what lothrik said

[half vigil]

so i've been playing diablo 4 again recently, and i was wondering if anyone thinks that they'll do something similar in last epoch for minions. make it so that ally minions are lightly rendered or looking like faded ghosts? cuz if you have a member of your squad that has minions in d4, you can barely see them

[signal mica]

Is it next Thursday yet...

[visual frigate]

aww it comes next thurs? i thought it was this week for some reason

[half vigil]

funny story... warframe has an update the day before lool

at least lord of hatred doesnt drop till end o fnext month

[visual frigate]

yeah im not sure if im gonna go pally lock or barb

[half vigil]

i'll probs run the campaign with my sorc cuz i wanna see how i'll have to fix my pyromance hydra build but i really wanna try warlock

[visual frigate]

that reminds me. i need to grind out the current reliquary

i am a fiend for DOOM

[half vigil]

i've got 2 sets of armor left, the cyberdemon back piece, and missing the axe based crucible skins

[visual frigate]

unless i get a really, really good interview tomorrow im not spending 60 bones on every DOOM armor set

but im gonna at least get either barb or pally

[half vigil]

i did. i just didnt buy the cocodemon pet (the giant eyball one)

[visual frigate]

Yeah i lost my job yesterday so i gotta be a little smart

i got a few supervisor positions and a management position im looking into tomorrow

else id just get all o em cuz DOOM

[half vigil]

still off the opinion that the flaming skull demon pet shouldve been in the reliquary instead of the back trophy

[visual frigate]

thats why

you want the pet, not the back piece

[half vigil]

well i think it all lasts till LoH drops

[visual frigate]

oh good i have over a month to grind it

cuz tomorrow i wanna try the darktide update

[half vigil]

wanted. because i bought everything except the eyeball demon pet because i came into an extra 500 this month

[visual frigate]

i might get an extra 2k, ill find out tomorrow

someone storing my guns for me while i moved wanted my turret and might buy it from me

if thats the case im getting that and some new body armor for work

[half vigil]

are you in the military or something?

[minor sentinel]

the new class is coming in this season?

[half vigil]

no paradox class isn't coming until the expansion drops

[visual frigate]

that reminds me

ehg please buff the orbital laser on pally

please

its so bad, and i want to use it

[visual frigate]

bodyguard

body armor that fits under a suit is hilariously expensive

ill be going from a cheaper safelite defense to this
https://www.cryeprecision.com/LVS-Base-Vest

[half vigil]

Damn thats kinda cool. Id just be worried for my life 😭😭 not really a physical guy lol

[willow sentinel]

Please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[ancient surge]

I know I'm late to the party (having just recently awoken from my hibernatory (yes, made-up-on-the-fly-word) slumber), but I am kind of curious here: What separates the classic "internet trolling" from "legitimately mislead into strong belief"?

[pliant tartan]

I haven’t played since s2 - the spec meta looks kinda stale in s3 - but did the s2 mechanic go core?

I plan on playing s4 and I remember the s2 mechanic was great

[ancient surge]

S2 was weaver stuff

It's core

[pliant tartan]

Oh good ty

[ancient surge]

And if I'm not mistaken, seasonal content goes core the moment it hits?

[pliant tartan]

I think so you’re right lol

[ancient surge]

The cycle is simply a fresh economy.

[willow sentinel]

Everything that's added rn is core straight away, and is available in legacy (standard)

[pliant tartan]

Okay

I’m hoping there’ll be some fresh non abom minion builds

Looks to be fire support but I’m not sure how strong it’ll be

[willow sentinel]

S3 had a lot of good BM builds

Wolves, bear, Saber, crows were really solid

[pliant tartan]

I prefer to play necro but I did make a void knight in s2 too and that was fun

[willow sentinel]

Bear was op and we all hope it get bring back from the stratosphere

[pliant tartan]

Some slammy void thing but it was super meta

[willow sentinel]

Ah, necro

I can't help you then

[pliant tartan]

I don’t think I wanna repeat that despite it being good

[willow sentinel]

The most popular vk rn is Warpath

[pliant tartan]

The fire staff is getting buffed from the dragon boss

That’s the spin2win

[willow sentinel]

Correct

[pliant tartan]

I think I am gonna do the trading Econ thing this go around

And hopefully necro