💬┃general

[chilly ember]

"mike forgets a teaser in the middle of the stream" might be my favourite

[prisma hatch]

EHG took my money once more this season >.>

I blame the toucan and cat pet

[random socket]

been out of the game a solid 4 yrs... is there a slam dunk fun ez starter this league that may be in a newer class or skill? i dont think the 3rd classes existed back then

[prisma hatch]

Raptor BM, it's power scaling is great for leveling, and still has chase items to motivate for end game grinding

[random socket]

sold, dont think ive played beastmaster yet

[prisma hatch]

It's my chosen league starter this season as well, but it was already pretty strong last season (outside of uberroth which most non-snapshot minion builds struggled with to an extent)

[random socket]

looks like BM got reworked?

[prisma hatch]

They reworked quite a few of the companions to give some power buffs, they also are re-introducing (in a more controlled manner) player procced skills through the companions which they did take out of the beta but looks like they are putting back in. Which is exciting as Bear and Sabertooth were faring much more poorly compared to wolves, crows, and raptor

[summer tapir]

Anyone know where I can get merch? Like a paladin hoodie or something?

[fast gull]

Hello guys, I didn't played from the start of s2, did they fixed all gold dupes and it's possible to play normal with Merchants guild?

[compact dawn]

I don't think EHG has any official merch for sale atm. However might be worth asking in dev chat to see if that's changing.

[compact dawn]

As far as I know all known dups have been fixed, but it's always a cat/mouse game.

[fast gull]

I hope this season will be different situation 🙁

[compact dawn]

Same here

though going CoF was ok last league. Weaver's tree helps a lot finding the exact items you are looking for.

assuming you have a garbage copy of it already to put into the tree

[ionic vale]

is there any way of zooming out

my char is so big man

[compact dawn]

mouse wheel normally, there is a max zoom out though

[ionic vale]

yah man max is still so much

[compact dawn]

the limited view is intentional. It's always a player vs dev arguement how much the camrea should be zoomed out :P. The fact is though some mobs are flat out suspended and unrendered past a certain distance for performance reasons. So increasing zoom has it's issues, and using super wide monitors technically work on the horizontal axis, but you see "pop in's" with it.

[deft bobcat]

[burnt crest]

when does new season release?

[brittle wadi]

This Thursday 🙂

[burnt crest]

:oooooo whaaat

i ahvent

prepared at all

can you delay it like for next friday pls

[cloud mulch]

gfys lol

[burnt crest]

fck me yourself pssy

[vivid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[floral charm]

crafting materials dont carry over to legacy? 🙁

[stoic frigate]

Did you hit the merge button in stash?

[night marten]

They do if you merge stashes

https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1394658973612904478

[main frigate]

I have a question, how to colour this grid after I did that?

Just doodle on the picture?

I mean the bingo games

Get a CM to talk about food

lol... What the hell

[ripe sun]

Easier than you'd think. If you catch him in game, it's dead easy to get Judd talking about food.

[iron grotto]

anyone else starting lich?

[ripe sun]

I am!

[iron grotto]

hell yeah, i like ur style

[near bobcat]

I want to make sure so I'm asking the experts in discord.. I have a level 70 something lich on legacy. Can I keep playing in legacy when the new season drops in a few days and I'll have access to all new content? (I want to try the acolyte with all the changes)

[iron grotto]

yeah, season and legacy are seperate. After the current season ends all seasonal content gets transferred to legacy

[near bobcat]

Oh okay so legacy won't have access to any of the new stuff

[iron grotto]

correct

[near bobcat]

Thank you!

[ruby pine]

thats wrong

[main frigate]

Give someone a gift on the beach/ Eradicate the species in Eterra

...????

Mike forget the teaser in the middle of stream/Mike answer your question on stream

lol... What the hell +1

Someone in the chat ask when 1.3 start

Oh man, very classic

[ruby pine]

legacy and season are the same patch there is no difference

[near bobcat]

See, I can't find definitive information for some reason when I search it. I'm also smooth brain.

[main frigate]

Well, time jet and region limit make the thing you said is impossible, sorry.

[ruby pine]

LE doesnt have seasonal content only yet. all systems are core for now

all season does is provide a fresh wipe/economy/leaderboards

[near bobcat]

Okay. So then I could play my legacy lich and start at levle 70 something (instead of starting a new level 1 and grinding) and have access to all changes?

[ruby pine]

yes all legacy characters will be upgraded to the new patch

[near bobcat]

Okay, thank you! I still don't know which answer is fully correct but hopefully it's the answer where I don't have to start from level 1 😂

[steep flare]

At some point seasonal content will be in the season league only, but for now it shows up in legacy at the same time except sometimes when they add a giga boss, in which case they wait for someone to beat it in the season first before opening it up for legacy. I don't believe there's such a boss this time, so there should be no difference

[paper dome]

So erasing strike vk nerfed in s3?

[ruby pine]

yes it got nerfs. and its still OP

[steep flare]

There were a few minor sentinel nerfs. The only big one is that Battle Standard on Javelin doesn't buff DoT anymore

Aside from that, if it was busted af last season, it will still be busted

[paper dome]

So starting sentinel into pally into erasing strike still solid choice?

[ruby pine]

will work just fine yep

[paper dome]

Necro minions be good or nah?

[ruby pine]

should be very good yeah

[steep flare]

Minions overall got a bit of a buff, but snapshotting was removed, so depends on whether you were using that

[warped vine]

What is snapchat

Shot i mean

Damn autocorrect

[steep flare]

So, if you summon a minion, it would remember the stats when you summoned it

So you could summon it, swap out your gear to non-minion stuff after, and keep the minion bonuses

[paper dome]

It takes the stats frkm gear you wearing when u summoned it. Allowing u to swap gear for other stats after

[warped vine]

🤔

[steep flare]

But starting with the update, they will update their stats when your gear changes even if you don't resummon

[ruby pine]

they fixed gear snapshot. but you can still skill snapshot

so its kind of fixed

[wet heron]

How excited are yall for the new league. I’m like ehh looks interesting

[trail cradle]

I like squirrels, but now they have a t-rex friend. What's ehh about that?

but also we're comparing a yearish of development (season 2) with a few months (season 3), so I'm not surprised it isn't as huge

[ripe sun]

I've not played Lich since before 1.0, I'm looking forward to it.

[main frigate]

That's a pity that maxroll become the powerful platform for influenced loot-based ARPG YouTubers but letools can grow up in wild only...
I still prefer to search info about skills, items and make my builds in letools.

[steep river]

Same. I think back in like 0.8.5 maybe? Was one of my first characters.

[steep river]

Then do that? Feel free to make your own build and play the game however you want. Have fun!

[main frigate]

Letools can act as a search data tool only. It's why Maxroll is more famous because it have a team that craft builds for players to follow.

[steep river]

There are written build guides on LE Tools as well? This section https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/

[ripe sun]

?

[steep river]

Anyway, play however you want! It's a game, the important thing is you're enjoying playing the game. Have fun!

[deft bobcat]

Remember to enjoy it

[main frigate]

32 build guides in 1.2 on letools, 40 build guides in 1.2 on maxrolls.
Guides in 1.2 on letools have a leaderboard about which mastery/which skills/which unique items are the most popular (meta builds and non-meta builds) by travellers.
Guides in 1.2 on maxrolls have a tier list under hardcore and they verified by the most famous ARPG youtubers.

Unfortunately the tier list come from a team which form of pro players always more reliable than guides from travellers even this traveller recognized as a pro player.

[burnt eagle]

<@&1161418687471956101> unfortunately folks are at it again with spam/scams!

(Thanks for all you do )

[main frigate]

Find an interesting thing by the way, neither maxroll or letools mentioned burning dagger marksman. Alright but this build is quite fun literally...

🤷‍♀️ Maybe this build is limited by lacking of enough custom nodes for burning daggers so...

[stoic frigate]

Yeah it's just not good sadly

I want it to be, it's really funny

[steep river]

there's some Heartseeker guides on both that use procced Burning Daggers

[brittle jay]

my beloved falconer has been murdered 🙁

[main frigate]

oh Dread's burning dagger marksman video remind me of something lol

#❔┃ask-the-community message
I miss tons of crit chances. Damn

[fast gull]

hey guys, there is no good archer build on this game? like tornado shot in poe

[unkempt sorrel]

real

[main frigate]

thanks for recommendation

👀 I'm new to poe so never hear this build

[calm zodiac]

So 48 hours for me to go around trying to find the epoch even tho i dont know whats an epoch after hundreds of hours of gaming

[marble axle]

whats a good build to start next season with?

[calm zodiac]

Good in the sense of overall good, it easy to make good

[marble axle]

like good balance of dmg and tankiness

[calm zodiac]

if you want simple, go warpath VK

[marble axle]

idrm simple or not simple

im looking for something none-sentinel lol played too much sentinel tihs league

[calm zodiac]

Witchfire warlock them

[willow sentinel]

Good morning travelers

[muted cape]

Good evening

[stoic frigate]

It is 12:20AM

[marble axle]

no

[elder bluff]

is anyone else having the game crash on loading screens in the early campaign? It's so frustrating. I've updated GPU drivers, reinstalled the game, etc. And it still crashes when reaching loading screens...

[willow sentinel]

6.26 here

[calm zodiac]

You on 13th or 14th gen intel CPUs?

[stoic frigate]

Wrong, only EST exists

[elder bluff]

@calm zodiac This is my CPU.

AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics (3.80 GHz)

I've always been able to play LE. This is happening only for my Primalist, which I'm levelling to prepare for season 3. All my other characters work fine.

[calm zodiac]

Seens like some sort of file corruption most likely, try to click on repair files on steam

Also just saying

You'll have to make a new character on season 3

[elder bluff]

I already did that. It didn't fix it. Then I uninnstalled and installed again the game. Same issue.

Yeah, I know. Just don't want this issue to happen to me or other people while levelling Primalists in s3

[willow sentinel]

Maybe they play legacy

[calm zodiac]

Fair

[elder wedge]

If you play abonimation, do you need to summon it every map or does it stay once you done it?

[south moat]

Good morning

[willow sentinel]

Should stay

[steep flare]

The worst part of an abomination build is gonna be when you first start your play session and gotta summon up 20 things for it to eat

[south moat]

That's a part of the abominable experience

[elder wedge]

but thats only once as long you don't log out?

[steep flare]

or die

[elder wedge]

i see

thx

[steep flare]

So yeah, conceivably you could go hours without resummoning it

Or you could be having a hard time on a boss and just suffer

I did a menagerie build once which had the same issue
Thankfully minion builds are less likely to die since the minions are eating the hits

[heady bough]

🤔 2lp red rings are pretty impractical, right?

[steep flare]

Even 0LP red rings are gonna be pretty endgame

Never plan your build around red rings

[calm zodiac]

Depends on how many hours you're willing to play

[heady bough]

yeaah fair, I can't figure out a good 2nd ring

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDGqGMPA

[slow cloud]

Beastmaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (56) / Shaman (17) / Druid (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,896, Regen: 109.44/s
▸ Mana: 199.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 86 Str / 128 Dex / 9 Int / 45 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 102% / 105% / 88% / 81% / 83% / 101%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 84%, Threshold: 657
▸ Dodge Chance: 23% (768)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,049)

Used skills:

Fury Leap / Warcry / Summon Frenzy Totem / Eterra's Blessing / Summon Thorn Totem

[calm zodiac]

Thats a 300 hours build

[steep flare]

A solid exalted will carry you real far when there isn't a build-specific item

[heady bough]

Maybe crab for all attributes? 🤔

[steep flare]

My default is usually to cycle out weaver rings until it hits useful affixes

[heady bough]

I'm okay with that, but what makes you say that?

[calm zodiac]

You'll play 100+ hours before you START dropping t7 stuff

[steep flare]

Since the health/mana/ward from the weaver ring is pretty solid, plus it has ele resist implicit

[heady bough]

oo

Only part I think will take a long, long time is the double t7 naal's

[steep flare]

My advice is to plan your build out based on no more than 1 t7 affix on any given piece, and no more than one affix in general on legendaries, unless you already have an LP4 stashed to use

Gotta have something solid to farm the giga rare stuff with first

It's still worth planning further out just so you know which uniques/exalteds to put on the hit list ofc

Just gotta have a "farm build" plan and an "aspirational" plan

[stoic frigate]

Yup. My most wishful thing on my starter is probably Legends Entwined, and it's not needed for the build to work at all.

[steep flare]

Most build guides only throw down the aspirational one which is why you'll see stupid stuff like double LP2 red rings lol

[heady bough]

I'm planning around the mid-tier stuff, none of the additional affixes are mandatory. The early stuff is just the same gear w/o LP -> Lp1 -> Lp2

[stoic frigate]

Outside of that I can roll like, pretty dogshit purples until probably well past Abby

[heady bough]

I didn't realize how rare my LP4 Mantle of the Pale Ox was last season lol

[steep flare]

Yeah, I was planning a bleed lich (who isn't?) and I don't think there is anything mandatory for it to be solid. But obv the new bleed gloves + ye olde bleed chalice are a real double whammy, and exsang opens things up a lot (it's giga common tho)

[stoic frigate]

I'm not doin Lich for a while xdd

[heady bough]

Yeah only mandatory piece is Land Before

and the helmet obv

[steep flare]

I was mathin' it out and it should be pretty easy to hit that 999+ mark on bleed stacks with new lich lol

[vivid leaf]

Are they removing snapshot in s3?

[heady bough]

What is the overall thought on lich? The overleech alone makes me want to play it w/ the 2h sword that's like take 20% less damage while leeching

yeah

[azure geyser]

better than it was before uwu

[steep flare]

I did think about merophage, but it's a pain to get a good one of those so it's def not a season starter. Even getting a bad one can take a while with bad luck

[stoic frigate]

At minimum we know it's gone for minions

[heady bough]

only lich builds I saw had the movement speed setup

and that mace got nerfed by like 30%

[steep flare]

S2 lich really didn't have anything going for it. New one looks pretty solid tho

[heady bough]

part of me really wants to start harmony ice barrage just because of how zoomy that build is and how it needs zero gear lol

[azure geyser]

leveling as lich is still gonna be torture

[heady bough]

I worry lp1 harmony might be a bit on the rare side tho

[steep flare]

Rip Blood + Harvest buffs means it won't be nearly as bad

[muted cape]

still had the solid S Coal

[stoic frigate]

New Lich is ffffine. It has some cool stuff. Blood Tethers mmight be crazy. Dunno if anything else it has will be like, absurdly good, but it's at least got more than one build now.

[azure geyser]

cant be as rare as a red ring so probably fine

[steep flare]

Yeah, that's literally the ONLY good build anyone could figure out for lich.. and it was a warlock build with Lich written over it in sharpie

[azure geyser]

marrow shards finally getting use again after 50 years

[stoic frigate]

LPL 60, not suuuuper rare but not the easiest farm

[steep flare]

I tried to use Marrow Shards this season and man it was so bad

[azure geyser]

nothing has really changed through the skill itself but you can automate it through rip blood and flay

[heady bough]

Yeah, it'd feel really bad to base your build around it and just get unlucky and not hit day 1

[muted cape]

@steep flare then later on in season misha made a very high dps poison HS lich right? dont think that was warlock

[stoic frigate]

It's not a day 1 item in general, the stuff to make it not utterly worthless is going to be a huge pain to farm

[azure geyser]

ye dont play a build like that

lol

[steep flare]

The only thing I need to get my build really goin' is Exsang, so that aura of decay bleed version will have no self damage and I can just throw as much ailment frequency/chance as I want at it with no consequences

[azure geyser]

you just replace aura of decay self damage with exs self damage

[heady bough]

I really don't think you need t21 gear to make it "not utterly worthless"
day 1 gear just...isn't very good and it's easy to just run around with a full set of 2-mod gear

[stoic frigate]

You'd need at least like, better than T10 gear to make it not awful

[steep flare]

The key there is aura of decay self-damage scales with my damage
Exsang self damage only scales with my HP. Which scales a lot slower

[stoic frigate]

And at that point I'm pretty sure just ignoring it and getting full normal gearing is better

[azure geyser]

fair ... and your generating ward with it

[heady bough]

I think you underestimate just how much 300 flat or 1000% inc damage carries

[steep flare]

Also exsang can't kill you 😛

[azure geyser]

and its like 2% more dot dmg

[stoic frigate]

Get there on no exalted gear without getting one tapped by a white mob. I'll wait.

[azure geyser]

essence devourer threshold

[heady bough]

I don't think you're getting 1-tapped by low corruption white mobs as long as you have equipment in every slot lol I don't think you need good gear for that

[steep flare]

Jury's out on whether that actually scales with exsang's drain, I hear, since it's phrased as "life lost" not "life drained"

[heady bough]

unless you're rushing to corruption 300+ for some reason

[stoic frigate]

Who isn't passing 300 in day one?

It takes like, a couple hours

[heady bough]

Man, I'm way slower than the norm then

[steep flare]

People who enjoy the leveling experience and aren't just giga-racing to the end

[azure geyser]

if it doesnt ill be sad

[steep flare]

Or people with jobs 😛

[stoic frigate]

Season 2 I stopped at 700c on day one

[muted cape]

ohh just checked, chaos bolt lich is also is s tier yaya two great builds for lich lol still not enough ofc

[heady bough]

That sounds like a really long day 1 lol

[stoic frigate]

I had a job when 1.0 came out and I was at 900c at the end of day 2

[heady bough]

Do people usually kill abberath day 1/2?

[azure geyser]

force them to make more builds uwu

[stoic frigate]

When Abby came out he was dead in under 12 hours

[heady bough]

I mean, top end speedrunners vs most people aren't really the same

[muted cape]

well with 1.3 I think s tier builds are going to increase by a very very very large amount compared to max rolls list of 20million dps

[azure geyser]

lol

[heady bough]

I have 191 hours played, they're putting that in in 10 days lol

[stoic frigate]

Most people who go hard on day one are in empowered by at least the end of the day. My friends, who all play less than me, have not had a single season where they weren't halfway to Abby by day 3 at worst

[muted cape]

ofc maxroll will update it list later

[azure geyser]

sounds about right ... will probably be slower cuz the new chapter

[stoic frigate]

I'm just gonna... not do it for a while

[heady bough]

Crazy, won't be me; I enjoy the grind up and I'll take it quite a bit slower

I like making my own builds too, so I'ma be quite a bit weaker than them lol

[steep flare]

Yeah, doin' my own builds is half the fun for me

[azure geyser]

i dont mostly cuz then id have to make a filter again lol

[stoic frigate]

I have never followed a build guide

[heady bough]

Yeah but you have enough experience to make a a or s tier build on your own or at least know what is top tier

[stoic frigate]

It's just numbers

[steep flare]

But like.. I also just do the campaign normally with a new character and just chill until I naturally end up forced into endgame

[stoic frigate]

It's not even complicated numbers, otherwise I would struggle to get it

[heady bough]

bruh I don't know what falconeer does, how would I know what skill is good lol

[azure geyser]

i mostly follow builds just so i can steal their loot filter and not have to think

[stoic frigate]

You don't need to know what it does

Literally put on the falcon and stack dex

That's it

Pick whatever falcon skill you want

[steep flare]

Loot filters got a lot easier when I realized it's smarter to hide what you know you don't want first, then figure out the rest later

[muted cape]

falconeer is op because of minions skills the end.

[azure geyser]

hide white items ... hide class items uwu

[steep flare]

I don't even have a filter until I at least get something in every slot

Can't always just buy stuff from vendor cause they can be stubborn

[heady bough]

I didn't find I needed a filter til I got to a decent amount of corruption

[steep flare]

Plus 0 gold at season start

[stoic frigate]

I just have affixes memorized and read things as I go until monos

[azure geyser]

when i make a filter its pretty lazy
hide weapons
hide white items
hide class items
show like 100 mods
recolor 100 mods with 2 on an item
bold 100 mods with 3 on an item
sleep

[muted cape]

yeah I also dont use a loot filer until i'm able to equip an exalted item

[azure geyser]

time to turn off all the loot beams thats gonna be really good

[muted cape]

then I do the 10min minmax optimal planner rule set

15 rules gives you everything you want

[azure geyser]

ye something like that

[heady bough]

I tried using other people's filters but I didn't like how much they hide stuff. I like playing a variety of builds and hiding 80% of good items just because it's not good for the build - didn't like lol

[azure geyser]

the new weaver mods really made it annoying tho

[steep flare]

Yeah, I always keep "show t7 +skills" somewhere on my filter

Because never know when I might want to try another build

[heady bough]

yeah!

[stoic frigate]

I just have a generic filter that shows everything I want for my planned builds that I put on as soon as I hit empowered.

And just some general rare stuff gets highlighted

[heady bough]

I don't know enough about the game to know what builds I'd want to play lol

[stoic frigate]

I make many planners

[azure geyser]

i dont want to plan it but then i have to plan it to filter lol

[steep flare]

"What should I play next?"

+4 to X skill drops
"Aight, why not"

[stoic frigate]

I have 13 for this patch already (not all will be played, some are just experiments)

[azure geyser]

oh ye i always add a line at the top of the filter when im looking for something for another build to make it white and bold

[muted cape]

my filter is show all affixes I need in red, recolor all rare and exalted bases I need in blue,. idols in green then hide rest.

[heady bough]

I just make a few "That's a cool idea" builds, and then if something cool drops, I'll play around with it

[azure geyser]

oh ye and i never hide uniques

[muted cape]

and for SSF it's hide all class items but the class i'm in

[steep flare]

The fact that envy will now swap the base will be huge

[heady bough]

I hid a bunch of LP1 uniques

but kept most Lp0 and all lp2+

[azure geyser]

envy as a relevant crafting mechanic instead of just stability fodder

[muted cape]

lp one is your base yep

[stoic frigate]

I've gone as far as separating the 1/2/3/4LP uniques by the rarity of LP on them kek

[muted cape]

man they really made the game better giving us auto lp 1's

[steep flare]

I keep my single highest LP of any given unique because of weaver imprinting. If I end up going for a build that wants it, BAM imprint

Highest two for rings because yeah

[stoic frigate]

I'm still against it tbqh

[muted cape]

just think, in a year it could be two! 😄

[stoic frigate]

Yeah I don't like that idea

[muted cape]

nah i'm kidding, I doubt that will happen

they will probably keep making crazy awesome ideas

[heady bough]

btw is bluefeather band...good? Idk what to think about it

[muted cape]

Le is finally getting the variety crafting

[muted cape]

ahh yes thats a tricky item to build around, and for me it's mostly because it doesn't affect melee, which on average have higher mana costs then spells 🙁

[heady bough]

The only spell I can think of is the glacier on dodge build

because that build eats mana insanely fast

[muted cape]

it might be good on a hail of arrows build tbhj

wait nope its proc is nto a spell

[azure geyser]

its bad

[heady bough]

the ring and the horn of the bone wisp wand are the only 2 I'm not sure what they're good for

[muted cape]

chaos bolts!

ez

[heady bough]

especially since you're giving up a t8 affix or another ancestral item for it

[muted cape]

i hate chaos bolts because its the most expensive spell to cast

[heady bough]

haha, does chaos bolt have a flat -mana cost on it?

[muted cape]

blue feather would make me hate it less so i dont have to build a bunch of mana regen and spamming ripblood

because you can bet i WILL be using fissure to also cast em

[azure geyser]

marrow shards are pretty expensivew

a whole 10% health xD

[muted cape]

yeah opposite effect

but i'm a filthy primalist main

I only build health and health regen

[heady bough]

Hydra Arc looks fun, but how practical is evasion in high corruption?

[stoic frigate]

It means the evasion button, not dodge

[heady bough]

ohhh

[muted cape]

evasion is ur dash

[heady bough]

poe brain, thought evasion was something else lol

[muted cape]

yue thats dodge :d

n parry lol

[stoic frigate]

But the answer is about as reliable as it is in PoE lmao

[heady bough]

so either immortal or useless no inbetween? lol

[stoic frigate]

Yeah pretty much

[south moat]

oh that might just be me

[steep flare]

You basically have to build around procs/interactions with dodge to give it a use, since on its own it can never be one-shot protection

[stoic frigate]

You either have some mitigation backing you up so you don't get blown up immediately (and if you have the right amount you never die) or you don't and out of nowhere you just explode

[sinful crescent]

S3 looks awesome!

[heady bough]

the reflect chest sounds funny

[stoic frigate]

It is

I have a plan for it

[heady bough]

lol

Big part of me wants to play around velocyn's Jaw because zoom zoom, gimme my 30%+ movespeed dagger 👀

Wish you could dual wield them

[muted cape]

day one I will play until I beat all empowered

[stoic frigate]

Put Traitor's Tongue in offhand

[steep flare]

That dagger is tryin' to convince me to play rogue again. I won't fall for it

[heady bough]

Rogue has so many fun looking skills

[steep flare]

Might be usable as an off-hand for melee lich now too, I guess. Flay/Harvest are dex skills

[stoic frigate]

I have a funny (horrid) idea for that dagger on BD don't worry

[muted cape]

TT the hot new item (again)

[stoic frigate]

Hey, I've been a Traitor enjoyer since before it was cool

[heady bough]

i think if I were to try out rogue, it'd be bow w/ wildfire embers...like the dragon bow

dragonsong I think?

[steep flare]

since flay uses both melee and spell damage, a solid exalted rune dagger would also be decent instead of traitor's

[stoic frigate]

No, join me in Ignite Vengeance with it instead

[heady bough]

lol What's vengeance?

[stoic frigate]

Funny Sentinel skill that only gets used for DR rn but has some of the funniest ailment builds in the game now

[heady bough]

ah was never a fan of Sentinel

[steep flare]

Though for a pure DoT build traitor's will def win out. +skills stronk

[heady bough]

I prefer ranged / casters / minion builds generally

[stoic frigate]

It might as well be ranged with what I have lined out for it

[heady bough]

wait..how does vengeance work with wisps?

[muted cape]

sentinel is cool but onlly for manifest armor and forge weapons for me 😄

[heady bough]

do they have to get attacked? lol

[stoic frigate]

No they just repeat when you use the skill

That's how they work in general

[muted cape]

ignite veangance VK?

[stoic frigate]

Nah VK is my Time Rot version

[steep flare]

Fireclaw runemaster?

[stoic frigate]

Ignite and bleed versions are actually on FG on my end

[muted cape]

ohh you cant make veangance good unless you equip its prim sadge

[stoic frigate]

Nah. I can.

[heady bough]

I'm a bit sad the trex has such bad scaling compared to frogs. Although "Added Damage Effectiveness: 750%" sounds exciting lol

[stoic frigate]

That's more frogs being busted, the t-rex is great

[heady bough]

i can't imagine what minion build you're playing that wants to stack strength and dex though

[stoic frigate]

We have options for spread on every ailment Blade Paladin works with now, so clear is solved.

[stoic frigate]

It's called playing beastmaster

[steep flare]

Beastmaster stacks strength, yeah

[heady bough]

but hten you could just be playing frogs :<

[stoic frigate]

Yes, because frogs are way overtuned

[heady bough]

yeah froggy numbers do seem incredibly high

[steep flare]

Look, you can try, but you're not gonna outcool velociraptor+trex caveman

[heady bough]

hahaha okay now you have a good point there

[stoic frigate]

I'm not complaining (much), I've been pestering EHG for a frog item since 2020

[azure geyser]

beachmaster

[heady bough]

Dragonraptors with Trex sounds amazing

[calm zodiac]

My glasses arriving tomorrow, I've upgraded the pc now I upgraded my eyes so I have 4k ray tracing eyes

[muted cape]

they changed it where minions in bm get crit multi per dex

[stoic frigate]

^^^

[calm zodiac]

I haven't done BM but can you do army BM like you can do with Necro?

[muted cape]

yes, but with only one type of minion

[calm zodiac]

So you can't have full minion skill then

[steep flare]

BM is basically spam one minion in huge numbers OR have one big minion

[muted cape]

either wolfs, squirrels, frogs, raptors, and crows

[heady bough]

You can have full buffs instead

[calm zodiac]

Make sense

[muted cape]

you can do a full buff build i guess

[steep flare]

warcry's berzerk + frenzy totem + aspects (shared) => Insane buff town

[muted cape]

like have 4 minions buffing you, crows+bear+spriggan+wolf

[calm zodiac]

So I can do a super powered frog army then

[heady bough]

I'm planning to do frenzy totem + eterra's blessing + thorn totem + warcry + leap slam w/ frog army

[stoic frigate]

My plan has more style points

[muted cape]

I can see a solid build that uses the new idol in a druid setup

[stoic frigate]

It uses Gathering Storm shenanigans for shred

[heady bough]

I looked at that tbh, I ended up going full lazy build lol

just summon totems on boss for shred

[muted cape]

obviously going zoo in bm doesnt make sense, but in druid it does

[calm zodiac]

I'm not a big fan of totems

I like stuff that moves

[muted cape]

totems are not the greatest by themselves but good for leveling

[fathom carbon]

hi 👋

[heady bough]

o/

[stoic frigate]

Hi

[muted cape]

totems are 100% out scaled by all the companions this next update based on crazy math

and I jsut got done calculating a 30million dps storm ttoem build with new gavel, double my dps from season 2

[heady bough]

A big part of me wants to start the new abomination, I'm just worried it'll have bad clear on account of being 1 big dumb minion lol

[stoic frigate]

Bankai have you made bees live for once?

[muted cape]

yes in a old summon bear bleed build

I basically tied my item into a skill

[calm zodiac]

The most important question nobody been asking

[muted cape]

and now that skill is going to want my unique finally lol

[calm zodiac]

Cute anime waifu pet in the store when?

[muted cape]

I think the tucan is the best omg

[stoic frigate]

Huh. Neat. I await your results.

[calm zodiac]

I like capybara and bees more tbh

I also wish we had mounts, would be cool

[muted cape]

ghost flame feels like a mount

like ur zooming on motocycle ghost spirit

[stoic frigate]

Ghostrider

[stray mantle]

So for a frog build, would it be Wolves/Frenzy Totem/Fury Leap/Warcry/melee rightclick skill of your flavour?

[muted cape]

yeee

[fathom carbon]

As a guy that grew up seeing toucans and capybaras, i love both

[stoic frigate]

I have GS/Frenzy/Fury Leap/Warcry/Maelstrom personally. Don't care enough abbout the wolf.

[stray mantle]

Fair, but i want the extra perma wolf that doesnt eat into the frogs 😂

[calm zodiac]

I'm from Brazil so I've had a ton of both near me as well

[stoic frigate]

I have an obligation to only have frogs

[muted cape]

@stray mantle I think you would want spriggan companion to give them base crit

[calm zodiac]

I think the 🐝 s are the most adorable pets

[stoic frigate]

They gain crit inherently from attune

[calm zodiac]

I wish we had a 🐢 pet, I have a turtle irl

[muted cape]

yeah but for leveling easier to cap crit

[fathom carbon]

Same, but i love the bees too, the first build i did on my own was a bee build

[stoic frigate]

Ew respeccing

[stray mantle]

Do i give up Warcry for Spriggan or another skill?

[muted cape]

@stray mantle honestly i wouldnt worry about it, its going to take you awhile to gear for frogs

[stray mantle]

Like, trying to brain a frog build to use when S3 is live, but also torn to get TRex too 😂 😂 😂

[muted cape]

focus on your starter build first, then see how you want to build your frogs once you get the item

[stray mantle]

True true, we dk when we can get the frog helmet

[spring panther]

Fire breath raptors just sounds cool so I’m doing that

[steep flare]

Almost all the primordials will take until around empowered monos just by level requirement lol

[muted cape]

fire raptors sound amazing

[steep flare]

They're mostly lvl 80ish

[muted cape]

flame thrower raptors?

[vast pecan]

Is seasonal mechanic will be able only after finishing chapter 10 of campain? I usually skip after chapter 7..... 😉

[stray mantle]

I just want to make a zoo build until then w/o getting squished into a 1shot but eh, not playing hardcore, so it shld be fine if i die a few times

[stoic frigate]

No, your campaign completion is entirely irrelevant for all mechanics in LE

[heady bough]

just missing 2 attributes, i think, right?

[stoic frigate]

Yup

[vast pecan]

Thanks, that good to know

[sinful crescent]

lol once again PoE is announcing a league just after LE season launches.

[heady bough]

I mean, poe's put itself into a "release every 2 month" cycle...so there's always a league that just launched or one that's coming up. Feels kinda bad, but what can ya do

[vast pecan]

It was set long time ago, I belive

[sinful crescent]

I am super excited about LE S3 anyway. And with some luck I can get S4 in time for my winter vacation.

[heady bough]

I like that non-unique items are becoming more valuable w/ t8 mods, makes building a lot more interesting to me

also like 17/25 of the ancestral uniques look really fun

[sinful crescent]

Yeah I think that was a great move

[stoic frigate]

They need a bit more work imo. The primordials are just too interesting to pass for a T8 in my eyes

[steep flare]

t8 elemental damage over time staff go brrr (1126%-1408% range lmao)

[heady bough]

Maybe, I can't say much yet but I know there's some builds that none of the ancestral items looked too impactful for

[stoic frigate]

That's at the range where you basically just don't have affixes to put on other prefixes tbh

[sinful crescent]

Is the holy fire damage over time javelin still a viable build? I remember that one being kind of fun a year ago

[stoic frigate]

Eh. It's... fine.

[muted cape]

ye it was judgement concecrated grounds little brother

[spring panther]

Sentinel still has really strong passives all around from semi recent rework

[heady bough]

I keep looking at Horn of the Bone Wisp - I feel like this is one of the most out of place items in the primordial uniques. It seems good, but it just seems generic compared to the rest? 🤔

[stoic frigate]

I mean, if you want generic there's Legends Entwined, or the idol one

[heady bough]

I don't think legens entwined is generic at all

[muted cape]

I predict primalist, sentinel, and lich being the strongest masteries going into next season

[heady bough]

That's a super unique effect

[stoic frigate]

It's a stat stick item, it's very generic

Maybe we have different views on what that means though

[fervent ether]

if you dont have a friend to taxi you to the factions, you have to do some campaign to get faction

[heady bough]

Yeah, I'm talking about every other item feels unique, in that it has some special niche use or special effect you can't get elsewhere

[stoic frigate]

To me a unique needs to have an interesting function to it. Legends isn't interesting, it's just stats for having affixes in it.

[muted cape]

legends entwined is good but def not for companion builds :d

[heady bough]

Horn of hte bone wisp just looks like a really juiced generic item

[stoic frigate]

That's not related to completion

[fervent ether]

its a mechanic of LE

[stoic frigate]

....

[muted cape]

I get 14 skill levels from 5 items

[stoic frigate]

Reading comprehension devil is out and about huh

[muted cape]

for saber lol

[heady bough]

I mean...you can't even get to end-game without doing "some" campaign

[fervent ether]

if you didnt have breakfast this morning how would you feel

[heady bough]

Not like you can make your character and instantly go to monoliths lol

[fervent ether]

if you have a friend taxi you to end of time you can skip all of campaign and do monoliths

[stoic frigate]

Dios mio.

[heady bough]

Wait what? I'm 100% ssf only, is there like an option to teleport to someone?

[stoic frigate]

Yeah you can tp to people in party. This is still not relevant because the question that was asked was "is the mechanic locked to campaigin completion" and the answer to that is no, just as it is for factions, nemesis, weaver, and everything else in the game

[heady bough]

Oh yeah he's being difficult, but I didn't know you could just spawn in and insta-teleport to monoliths

that's cool that they allow that

[fervent ether]

good luck killing the lv 54 enemies with your Mastery Skill, 1 skillpoint, and your starting skill

[heady bough]

reminds me of old d2 white bow only challenges

I'd be down to attempt that lol

[stoic frigate]

It's not that hard

[forest parrot]

No idol slots either

[heady bough]

honestly with twink gear it wouldn't even be a challenge tbh

[fervent ether]

you have what 50 health starting off

[heady bough]

just don't get hit, same as doing them at level 20

[stoic frigate]

You get instantly booted to almost level 20

[heady bough]

not like it really changes, you're 1-shot either way

[stoic frigate]

Just by going to EoT

[fervent ether]

level 20 you can get hit by a few shitters and can ignore the shitter hits if you have potions your hitting

[stoic frigate]

At level 20 I've gone into monos and cleared the entire first one before going back to campaign 👍

[heady bough]

I did that as a noob, took quite a few attempts lol

[fervent ether]

im able to do lv 20 campaign skip on warlock, fissure + infernal shade is just real good

[heady bough]

What is the best lv20 untwinked monolith character?

[fervent ether]

i dont know other classes havnt tried it

[heady bough]

I always see falconeers take the top spot in the first hours

[stoic frigate]

It's just fast so it does that

[fervent ether]

its probably falconer, explosive trap + acid flask is just so strong of a leveler and its whole screen ranged

[heady bough]

explosive trap is a real skill? ngl I thought that was bait lol

[fervent ether]

its very good

[heady bough]

next you're gonna tell me net is meta too

[stoic frigate]

Explosive Trap itself sucks ass, but it is real good at making other skills do things

[heady bough]

Ahhh

that makes a lot more sense to me

[fervent ether]

explosive trap if your attack speed is high enough you're
mapping and bossing at 200+ dusk shrouds

[stoic frigate]

Yeah... By making other skills do the damage

Because the actual trap itself is dogshit

[heady bough]

I think if I started rogue, it'd have to be blade dancer. Something about those clones just look so fun to play around with

[fervent ether]

the trap does good damage and triggers the acid flask that does giga damage so its a good skill

[stoic frigate]

Aight I ain't gonna bother arguing with you

[steel mesa]

it doesn't do good damage

[fervent ether]

it's not umbral blades

I built it before its fantastic damage

if warlock wasnt so strong league start I would start rogue

[heady bough]

I've been trying to figure out why people rae saying blood tether was so good. Seems super mediocre, 40 base dmg/sec, 200% de like..it's fine but nothing amazing

then i saw it

Deals 1% more damage per bleed on the target.

[stoic frigate]

Yeah

It's funny

[heady bough]

That's disgusting lol

they give us the bleed gloves, and give us that? I don't even know how to abuse it but I know it's going to be insane

I'd probably just do chthonic fissure rip blood 🤔

[fervent ether]

fissure does some wacky with a ton of bleed chance

the bleed build gets 1600% bleed chance easy

[muted cape]

it's a spell right? so spell flat damage, and dot.

[stoic frigate]

I don't think the tethers spell tagged

[fervent ether]

then phys convert fissue and that 1600% bleed gives it 800% spell damage, and 4000% increased stun chance

[muted cape]

so probably

aod+blood tether

[heady bough]

Physical Spell Damage Over Time```

[muted cape]

aod for aoe trash clear and blood tether for single target

[stoic frigate]

Fair enough. I didn't pay enough attention to the tags

[heady bough]

aod?

[stoic frigate]

I just went "eh, get bleeds, who cares"

[muted cape]

aura of decay

[fervent ether]

bleed tether has the potential to do some work

[heady bough]

ah

[azure geyser]

can we get aod spell tag

[muted cape]

cant convert that spewll to physical

[azure geyser]

so we can use that ring reeee

[heady bough]

I played like 3 chthonic builds last season and absolutely loved them

I'm 100% down to league start another lol

ice barrage or chthonic are my fav skills

[fervent ether]

the bleed tethers idk id just scale ghostflame and the tethers are an unexpected boost..

15% more multi gloves, 40% more multi boots, 16% more multi to channeling, 15% more multi bleed overload, 4% more multi from health decay, 15% more multi decrepify, (25% pen marked for death + 15% pen aura of decay + 175% pen aura of decay + 24% pen reaper tree +10% pen reaper form = 249% pen) 249% more multi from pen, 48% more multi inside ghostflame, 15% more multi in ghostflame, 150% more multi in ghotflame

[muted cape]

can sorry can lol. 1.3 I hope is the dream to make an aod damage build 🙏

actually think I found a way

WOAH ok ill make planner in a bit lol

[stark canopy]

LE Tools Build Planner now allows to copy existing idols. I know a number of people wanted this feature for quite some time :D

[heady bough]

\o/

Les goo! 😄

[steel mesa]

That's probably been my most wanted feature for a long time, thanks Dammitt

[fervent ether]

I think the way to go to make aod do damage is to just stack your int through the roof to make it pen your phis, poison, or cold through the roof

who knows maybe the nova and fester components will do some work

[stoic frigate]

If only that was one day earlier when I was making a reflecter

[inner finch]

🗓️

[candid linden]

So is LE and poe2 new patch on same day again lol?

[steep flare]

One week apart

LE on 21st, PoE2 on 28th

[stoic frigate]

Only one of these games is installed for me :)

[fervent ether]

poe2 would need to buff movement speed, make the campaign 1 playthrough only, and add dual daggers+claws and spin to win for me to reinstall. Then I wouldnt even play through week 1

[tribal ember]

Is there going to be any difference in seasonal or legacy this time around? Apart from economy reset

[steep flare]

None that I know of

[tribal ember]

Sweet thanks

[south moat]

Leaderboards

But yeah no difference in content

[crisp tinsel]

have poe 2 added any weapons other than the javelins or whatever for added ascendancy?

And I'm still undecided what to start for this LE season. s0 was devouring orb, s2 was erasing strike- I really should try not-sentinel

[south moat]

Nobody knows
maybe you'll see after their actual season reveal

[crisp tinsel]

so nothing new since, but might now, then, aight

warrior was.. rough with mace only. just nothing fun about it's quirks

[latent wyvern]

There is nothing fun in poo2 in general

[bright hill]

Maybe try minions this patch?

[crisp tinsel]

They are getting some neat buffs, true

[bright hill]

I was mostly sentinel/mage player too and doing minion starter this time around

Time to try something new

[crisp tinsel]

never touched mage at all, did a very short stint with primalist and some dagger bladdancer dagger thing previously

..also not acolyte, I guess

[spring zealot]

I only started playing a few days ago but did rogue get any buffs or nerfs?

[inner finch]

well...

you're not in deep enough to really experience the effects of what's gonna happen

My advice would to just pick what you like playing

[steep flare]

It had some adjustments but yeah, nothing you'd care about unless pretty far into the optimization cups

Only Beastmaster, Necromancer, and Lich had big adjustments, with Lich being heavily reworked

[stoic frigate]

Drunk on dexmaxing

[simple bison]

Someone say dexmaxing?

[inner finch]

[stoic frigate]

Oh gods I summoned him

[steep flare]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-25170795

[simple bison]

What 2 flat damage per dex will do to you

[stoic frigate]

Average Shatterstriker

[steep flare]

I guess this is a no-fun server that doesn't embed gifs

[stoic frigate]

Well we had them for a while

[simple bison]

They used to be allowed and some people decided to ruin it for the rest basically

[stoic frigate]

Then people started posting things they shouldn't

[steep flare]

Ban the people, then

[simple bison]

Well yeah xd

[stoic frigate]

We did. Doesn't really stop the spam during launches though, which nobody enjoyed

[steep flare]

I just wanted to make a Dark Souls dex v str reference :Sadge:

God, can't even use emotes from elsewhere

[simple bison]

Same deal

[stoic frigate]

250k+ people. Unfortunately they can't all behave.

[steep flare]

At least it's better than the TQ2 server where you get warned for off-topic the instant something vaguely not-TQ2 related is referenced

[stoic frigate]

That happens if Kain is in chat

[glass pendant]

that's why we need muffin's chaotic energy more often to counter balance it

balanced, as all things should be

[inner finch]

ive seen worse. Some people really dont get the simple formula behind developing proper community in their server

releasing some of that leash is important

let people mingle

[steep flare]

We all need just a little bit of chaos gremlin in our lives

[glass pendant]

A little bit of the acolyte character if you will

[steep flare]

Procs on procs get you those bleed stack stonks

[tidal heart]

Lmao so many people overnight are now telling me they are going primalist instead of lich. What happened the past day?

[inner finch]

Could be Aaron's work

could be Rax's work

[tidal heart]

Oh content creators ok

Makes sense are they all rolling primalist?

[steep flare]

It's got some fun stuff in it, including a helmet that summons one of the plagues of egypt on your foes

[mild briar]

is bladedancer capable of reaching wave 1k+ in a arena THEORETICALLY?

or rogue as a whole for that matter

[inner finch]

They will be rolling primalist yes

People are really excited with the pet compositions primalists can have

[tidal heart]

What is the primalist build a lot are playing?

I don’t play minions but if it’s fun will send the build to friends

[glass pendant]

Bear is a strong contender for the strongest build this season at face value

That's until someone breaks the game with falconer or void knight

[inner finch]

I think that a good contender to game breaking would be the bleed stacking warlock

but it feels a little more ethical

The RM stuff is a little more busted

with the lightning

[glass pendant]

Not too game breaking. I think the best warlock tech clocks it at around 65mill so far

[inner finch]

I would like to try Bearquakes

i dont even care about how high it pushes, just sounds fun

[glass pendant]

the current estimate is do Uber in seconds type of pushing

[inner finch]

1.3 will push builds to do goofy stuff

[sturdy hare]

we got patch notes, is what happened

[south moat]

And I'm here for it
What a time to be alive

[tidal heart]

this was after patch notes

everyone was going lich with patch notes, then everyone going primalist I am hearing

[sturdy hare]

it takes them time to look at them and really decide things

these are the sort of people who mess around in planner etc

[main frigate]

I'm interested in which build do they mean

[silver pewter]

Is there path of building but for LE?

[tidal heart]

yeah just talking community perception from my side, obvi people will play a lot of builds

[sturdy hare]

they got into planner for a day or two and were like "wait a second BM is amazing"

[tidal heart]

but def it was all lich lich lich talk and then bam now so many of the people I play with are like nah primalist

[sturdy hare]

yes. LE tools

[tidal heart]

yeah makes sense, did not know what was so good about primalist and they all did not either 😂 they just said its prob strong compared to lich

[silver pewter]

oh interesting

does le tool give you all the damage stats and resists etc ?

[steep flare]

I'm still goin' lich, personally. Friend of mine chose Beastmaster for our first duo through the season (he doesn't watch streamers, he just heard about the trex).
Also, Lich was my one of my first characters but I never revisited it

[tidal heart]

but if content creators all coming out saying primalist it makes sense the change

[sturdy hare]

minions in general are popular this patch due to all the changes. on the necro side, most people are assuming the abomnation build will be S tier

[silver pewter]

like calculated correcttly

[steep flare]

There's no full calculator for LE that I'm aware of, just basic build planning stuff

[tidal heart]

yeah I got a gaming community, we got a lot of people from a lot of arpgs but most people just follow build guides for this and poe so if content creators pushing primalist I am sure a lot will roll also

[silver pewter]

darn

[sturdy hare]

I mean, following streamersd aside

primalist also fits the season theme

so I think al ot would roll one anyways

[steep flare]

A hunter must hunt

[tidal heart]

eh most of them will just roll what they think is the strongest, I am sure if Fubgun comes out and says he is playing xyz build a lot of people will just copy his. LE fun though you can kind of just make your own

[sturdy hare]

take BM into the ancient lands. Wolves V.S Raptors

the strongest pack animal of today v.s the strongest pack animal of history

and then realize you can just use raptors too

[steep flare]

I suppose Marksman is somewhat thematically appropriate too considering the hunting angle

[tidal heart]

ah there it is, maxroll updated their tierlist? That is prob it

[main frigate]

🤷‍♀️ No beastmaster builds which extreme popular are available now, so I can't agree beastmaster is top 1 mastery in 1.3

Lich lovers are pretty too

But I can guess only beastmaster and lich here to compete "the most popular mastery in 1.3" and "op builds in 1.3"

[steep flare]

Looks like maxroll did put bear beastmaster in their S-tier list, next to two types of void knight, judgement paladin, ballista falconer, and abom necro.

[tidal heart]

yup

[steep flare]

50% sentinel, 0% mage

[silver pewter]

isnt mage constantly bottom tier /

?

[tidal heart]

I am going melee lich, if it sucks or not fun sending shatterstrike. SS mad fun, idk how it does with uber abby though

[steep flare]

mage is more mid tier. You gotta work for its power, but it has some. But it also doesn't have giga cheese builds that devour uber bosses in seconds or anything

[sturdy hare]

considering that last season when it had basically nothing, a streamer was already able to take bear to over1100 corruption, this season I imagine the hugely buffed bear build will indeed be amazing

[steep flare]

In other terms, Mage doesn't really get S tier builds, but it has a lot in the A-B range

[tidal heart]

Haha seeing acid flask rogue on this list makes me excited, I tried so hard to cook a flask build but it sucked, looks like people made a much better one

[silver pewter]

mage defo was a struggle compared to paladin last season

[steep flare]

Everything is a struggle compared to sentinel

Sentinel just gets all the basics it needs right in its passives and skills

[tidal heart]

Falconer was pretty busted, heartseeker was fun but def took a lot longer for boss kills

[main frigate]

@steep river See here. People prefer to talk about tier list from maxroll directly to judge which build worth to play.

(99% youtubers who famous in this circle have joined maxroll too)

[bright hill]

Lizard killed Uber with sabertooth

[tidal heart]

I think this game has a good mix of people who will try to make their own builds and following build guides but idk

[steep flare]

I always follow my own stuff. I only looked at the tierlist because people here were talking about it, but I ain't lookin' at the build specifics. Ruins the fun.

[bright hill]

A lot of theorycrafting on reddit, it’s sign of that

[silver pewter]

i usually make my own builds first. then try a pre planned build to see how much i suck 😄

[tidal heart]

yeah gonna make one for campaign and early maps then higher corruption usually swap to something meta if I hit a wall. But idk enough about build making for this game so its a bit tougher because of the skill interactions. I cooked up a warlock build and looking a build guide it was night and day difference because fissure was working with rip blood and the other curses and chaos bolt so much better than what I was trying to make 😂

[steep flare]

My build is like a farmer tilling the ground by hand.
Then the cookie cutter build that somehow has every ideal unique in the game rolls by and eats an entire field

[main frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3n59DCRpBs
well, Dread just release his top 5 builds

[tidal heart]

lmao so it begins

at least cof is goated so builds won't be expensive af

[main frigate]

But I want to play necromancer only even it's not op :)

[tidal heart]

that is kind of how I feel about lich, I want to play melee kayn, I am an otp, so gonna do whatever I can to make it work, you figure with the rework its gotta be strong

[main frigate]

well, as a newbie in ARPG, seek a op build isn't my options because I have no idea how to predict op builds

[steep flare]

I have way more fun picking a gimmick out of a hat and doing what I can with that

Plenty of duds, but still something to learn along the way

[tidal heart]

for sure, its just tough because its gonna be a busy month

[inner finch]

Sure gonna be busy

first week - Lich, second week - pa... nope, beastmaster, third week - probably some RM shananigans

[steep flare]

First week: Bleed Lich
Second week: Cold Lich
Third week: Necrotic Melee/Spell hybrid Lich
Fourth week: ....

[rigid lake]

Hey all , is last seasons mechanics still available this upcoming season?

[main frigate]

A build per week? lol that's a pro player definitely

[steep flare]

All mechanics added thus far are permanent features, yeah

[rigid lake]

sweet

[main frigate]

I can play 1 month per build

[steep flare]

If I remember the old roadmaps correctly, I think it's either S4 or S5 that might end up with a non-permanent mechanic? The road maps I'm thinking of are very old tho so plans could easily have changed

[south moat]

They'll announce it when it'll happen

[main frigate]

I wonder what your rules on "this build is completed"

[steep flare]

A build is complete when starting the next one seems like more fun than continuing the current one

[main frigate]

My rules let me can play a build for a long long long time

[south moat]

My build is complete when I get bored of it and feel like making a new one

[brazen mica]

Usually it's when I reach the micro micro upgrades like triple T7 on good LP slam

[main frigate]

I can't... I must get some data display on screen, if the data over than the value set in my rules, ok it's completed. Otherwise I must continue playing

[south moat]

I just don't care enough
A build is a build is a build
I'll play it
some are more satisfying or fun but usually not that much difference to me

Mostly I play to pass the time, really

[true granite]

i play till i'm bored usually

[south moat]

That's my secret captain
I'm always bored

[inner finch]

5 bad slams in a row

[south moat]

I suppose your builds got completed earlier before 1.2

[main frigate]

I guess your pace on completing builds was quite quickly before guaranteed slam is here, that's a big resource for reducing passion to play le indeed

[floral charm]

what's a decent ehp for squishier character?

[mystic phoenix]

2 MORE DAYS AND WE THERE LADYS AND GENT

[bitter stump]

+4 hours. and downloading on steam 😄

[mystic phoenix]

shhhhhhhhhhh

[mystic phoenix]

thats just a small detail detailed

[true granite]

i think i want to do a lich

[potent ermine]

im doing a thoradin probly 😂

[shadow mason]

Aight my Lootfilter is finally ready. You can release the Season now EHG

[potent ermine]

did you get the new uniques added?

[true granite]

i did a paladin last season so want to change it up

[near adder]

Are the stash tabs transitioned into the new season?

Can i prepare them now?

[runic bane]

peeps, those new legendary items. Where they boss drops or just drops from those new area mobs?

[hallow egret]

Some drop from the beasts, some you can buy from the new npc.

[main frigate]

@primal abyss Good morning, remember to stay hydrated, how's going?

[median perch]

They will be transferred to Legacy when the Season ends

[near adder]

so everyone creates new ones when the season starts?

[runic bane]

is it random NPC that spawns in maps? or a static that just stands somewhere?

[tawdry gazelle]

i believe it is a NPC static at chapter 10 areas i mean in one of it

[runic bane]

ok ty for info.

[tawdry gazelle]

no worries

[runic bane]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/72/bd/a8/72bda89f214abc13cf7ef37942c466d5.jpg

is this what we playing this season?

[tawdry gazelle]

yeah 😄

[median perch]

With seasonal, everything will completely reset to zero; the only things you can carry over are game experience and your friend list

[crisp tinsel]

t-vex for president

[tawdry gazelle]

let the season start today already i cant wait

[crisp tinsel]

I'm gonna be so behind with playtime fairly restricted till weekend ;_;

[runic bane]

companies should do more "shadow drops" just to keep player base guessing and happy 😄

"we decided to drop patch..TODAY"

[tawdry gazelle]

Yeah that would be awesome tbh 😄 i would love that

[night marten]

Not really possible with live servers that need to be updated

[polar bison]

any competitive event we know of for S3?

[steep river]

If you could not @ me at 5:30 AM my time, I'd appreciate it. I have to be up at 6 AM for work already, but that little bit of extra sleep... 💤💤

[calm zodiac]

So, we epoching in 48 hours, well, that + however long the servers take to stop dying

[willow sentinel]

3 minutes

[south moat]

Tbh I solve this issue by just closing discord for the night on my phone
or putting the phone on silent
and then in the morning I see I've got like 10 pings

[calm zodiac]

You're very hopeful

I'm fairly sure it'll be more packed then last time

[primal abyss]

[willow sentinel]

👋

[calm zodiac]

[primal abyss]

Happy Tuesday before patch~ Hope everyone is doing alright

[night marten]

Enjoying the peace before patch

[primal abyss]

Aah. Yes

[willow dirge]

Cant wait for thursday

[stoic frigate]

I have not slept since yesterday raaaaaaaah

[inner finch]

Why would you say something so brave yet so controversial

[primal abyss]

Need you to get that rest...

[night marten]

Cookin going that hard?

[primal abyss]

Cooking? 👀

[true granite]

i forgot, how long are the seasonal cosmetic packages up for? They last the entire season right? the new ones i mean

[dim agate]

Sleep if for the weak.

the weak is me

[polar bison]

hey vand, any community event cooking up this season?

[south moat]

Cooking builds

[wise smelt]

The news post say it will be available on August 21, 2025 at 12:00 PM, is that already converted to local time or is it a different timezone? I'm on EDT by the way

[primal abyss]

You've got to be weak before you get strong, right? hehe

[hallow egret]

Discord posts show time in your local timezone

[primal abyss]

I have no info to share or spill at this time

If any of the team does, we'll totally be sure to let it be known

Always down to see stuff in #1210281911872786482 too

[rough hinge]

what build yall starting in new season

[polar bison]

acolyte 100%, gotta try out necro and flay

especially being an og acolyte main

[primal abyss]

[wise smelt]

Going for Lich Flay, made a point of not testing it last season because of the new changes 😄

[primal abyss]

Beastmaster awaits me

[wise smelt]

BM would be awesome if we could only have 1 type of minion instead 1 of each tipe with that primordial

Fantasy of being a leader of the pack with 11 other wolves

[south moat]

Beastmaster calls for us all

[primal abyss]

I'm excited for a pack of Dragon Raptors with a certain tooth Unique

https://tenor.com/view/hhgf-gif-25031041

[willow sentinel]

Its not a primordial, its an unique idol

[copper sorrel]

Is there somewhere you can take a look at the new items?

[fresh tiger]

Last Epoch tools

Maxroll too I think

[south moat]

The pinned message has links

[crude cloud]

Any multiple pet S tier build yet? 🤔

[muted cape]

tunk labs too if you are hip

[main frigate]

lol my back and shoulders just too stiff even I want to sleep. Tossed and turned on the bed 2h and slept 5h only. That I took 3h nap at afternoon...

My sleep is ruined, chronic pain is so bad

[muted cape]

yep plenty

[wise smelt]

yes, that xD

[red fox]

Cant wait to rive once again

New uniques looks fire

[muted cape]

🐻 🫨

[astral vortex]

wish rive had built in movement

[inner finch]

Bearquake lovers

[stoic frigate]

I wish. No, I'm missing one of my meds and it's really messing with me apparently. Stomach and head have been having a rough time.
Especially the head, ain't just a headache, it's like I can barely fully form a coherent thought before it's ripped away just because I glanced at something else. I have no idea how I lived with this shit for so long.

[thin siren]

wait there's a new league already ??

[stoic frigate]

Thursday

[thin siren]

\o/

it's so fast compared to the last one

wasn't expecting it

I'm a simple man, I see a new last epoch season, I'm happy

[rancid igloo]

Guys, will this season be the lich season?

[fresh tiger]

Dino

[south moat]

It's gonna be bearmaster season

[thin siren]

squirrels everywhere

[fresh tiger]

Bear necessities the simple bear necessities

[red fox]

True but woud be to much op when its alrdy is

[astral vortex]

already is?

[fathom carbon]

👋

[thin siren]

no updates on the cof guild ?

oh well

[round turtle]

What, in general, do you feel is the tankiest build in LE? And also in the major ARPGs in general? It’s a model of gaming that suits me naturally so I’m curious what the community thinks?

[loud fable]

You have to define "tanky". Inherently, all OP builds are very tanky - they can't really die.

[cobalt wharf]

how does BM Bear vs Raptor vs sabertooth compare in terms of clear speed?

[strange umbra]

https://tenor.com/bMAli.gif

(+2 lol)

[glass pendant]

May your bears quake hard

[willow sentinel]

We dont know, patch is not out yet

[cobalt wharf]

in theory I guess then

[slow whale]

If you let me post my frog in general chat (I can pm it to you for you to verify) ill buy the 64$ supporter pack for season 3 within 8 minutes

[strange umbra]

sorry dont accept random requests 🙂 apologies to your frog

[slow whale]

All good :)

[inner finch]

im gonna Epoch so hard

[slow whale]

He will be posted in off-topic and ill still buy the pack regardless :3

[restive whale]

one more day closer folks heck yea

[red fox]

I mean i could down Uberoth with out even mooving last season so for bossing it is
If you want to speed farm meh its a bit slow
Would need a respect with out any lvl down so i could change healing hand for void cleave to moove way faster

[sturdy hare]

but it's not random it's frog-specific

[strange umbra]

neat site:
https://www.lastepoch.re/

[round turtle]

Maybe. I’d say the reign of winter marksman is a glass cannon, I’m sure other builds can be, or at
Least their authors say they are. But, tanky can be hard to pinpoint
In systems like
This. And it’s meant to be a role in a party. But all in all whenever i play any game i tend to default to run in and hit it a lot while taking almost no damage

After I try to play a subtle and complex wizard type

[carmine cargo]

How hard will it be to acquire primordial uniques? Specifically the set ring thingy

[south moat]

We don't really know yet

[steep river]

It can be purchased directly from the NPC in Primal Rifts, Skarven Bloodhorn, but like nub mentioned we don't really know much beyond that, such as which Primal Materials it takes, how you get each Primal Mat - such as are they random from Rift Beasts or are certain mats from certain evolutions, etc. etc.

[ashen vector]

Is there new shop items with s3

[willow sentinel]

MTX ?

[ashen vector]

Ya wondering

Skins

[uneven berry]

Is it possible to bind left click to a skill when using WASD, or is this not possible yet (or never)?

Without unbinding the interact for stuff

[willow sentinel]

Doesnt look like you cant

If you want to see it go to #1210282176680169562

[uneven berry]

Ah rip, I just want my controls to be semi similar to POE2 with them updating so close again

so I dont have to rebind my brain for different controls

[uneven berry]

I think I did add my input to a forum post suggesting it a while ago when the last season released

[near bobcat]

Im so excited 😊

[fair wing]

Are we there yet?

[primal abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[fair wing]

TM

[spark river]

im cookin up a torkrefin flay lich. anyone wanna take a peek?

[median perch]

How many more hours until maintenance, and when can we play again?

[south moat]

The maintenance starts 24h before the patch

So in 25hours

a bit under that

[median perch]

Ok, my last try before rest

[wet mauve]

I love torkrefin! for sure

[spark river]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkGxylDQ

[slow cloud]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (8) / Lich (68) / Warlock (17)

General:

▸ Health: 2,328, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 302.51, Regen: 16.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 217%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 96 Int / 10 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 101% / 78% / 76% / 209% / 0% / 26% / 91%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 919
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,711)

Used skills:

Rip Blood / Aura Of Decay / Flay / Bone Curse / Reaper Form

[wet mauve]

noice! I'm doing a cleaver solution bleed.
Tho it's more of a tank than a dps if you want to see.

[spark river]

ya

mine should be pretty tanky too tho

leech every where even dot leech

[wet mauve]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AK2Z7WDo haven't added all the damage skills yet, but it's a sustain tank not a one hit tank.

[slow cloud]

Lich, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Acolyte (20) / Necromancer (10) / Lich (50) / Warlock (33)

General:

▸ Health: 3,636, Regen: 823.6/s
▸ Mana: 157.9, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 196%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 98 Str / 12 Dex / 98 Int / 19 Att / 60 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 60% / 60% / 155% / 16% / 76% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 187%, Threshold: 1,778
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (537)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 75% (8,298)
▸ Block Chance: 79%, Mitigation: 50% (2,050)

Used skills:

Aura Of Decay

[spark river]

im curios if transference of aura do the mobs/bosses get the buffs aswell?

[wet mauve]

that's a fair question, tho I avoided that due to using it for healing.

[spark river]

i guess we will have to see

i like that ammy alot

[wet mauve]

I'm surprised you didn't take fume weaver

[spark river]

i did have it

not sure how it will work with transference i guess it wouldnt matter cause its the same either way

well

i wouldnt want the mob to gain more res from phys

[wet mauve]

fume weaver gives a negative penalty to you and mobs tho.
So should work either way.

[opal fiber]

Just noticed the achievement bingo

Mike forget the teaser

[cobalt ermine]

hydrahedron not viable this season ?

[spark river]

i could easily lose a point in the area node for fume weaver

[untold bloom]

Anyone else just constantly looking at the date on their computer

I'm even considering swapping it a few days forward 😡

[spark river]

ya iso transplant to take me to thursday

[fast thicket]

I wonder how many things got "broken" this patch, i mean its a tradition with EHG

[dense grove]

when does the season 3 launch?

[runic bane]

48hours 6 minutes

not counting or anything

[balmy arrow]

[subtle loom]

What builds u guys planning ?

[willow sentinel]

🦂 🌩️

[spark river]

i posted one just scroll up a bit

[main frigate]

<-

[fervent ether]

ghostflame lich

[fast thicket]

Im gonna build a wall

[subtle loom]

That sounds so cool lol

[midnight garnet]

Ooof... My case fans on my PC stopped spinning. All of them. CPU fan still working. Not getting high temps. staying at around 60-67c when gaming. Rock out?

[subtle loom]

Are the player base rising or going down

[tender thistle]

ofline players eating good tomorrow

[inner sand]

glad they're releasing an update that's NOT tuesday when i'm in the office

looking at you, GGG and Blizzard

[subtle loom]

😂😂😂

[south moat]

Well
not like they get the update any earlier

[tender thistle]

they can still play the game :P\

[honest belfry]

we try to avoid tuesday patches because of steam maintenance. you're not alone in that frustration

[ancient garnet]

Dang, a full day offline?

[inner sand]

newer fans are designed to spin up only when needed like on my video card.

[elfin wadi]

why 24hr tho

[viral halo]

Hype is real... two days left... two looooong days left.

[inner sand]

Hype for dino minion unique!

[subtle loom]

How would u guys recommend I prep for the season since I only got to lvl 35 this season

[ancient garnet]

Start over. Have fun

[inner sand]

sleep, food, water.

[wide sorrel]

welcome dino

[inner sand]

also PTO

[elfin wadi]

actually i wont mind the 24hr since we finally getting optimization update raaaaaaaah

[midnight garnet]

It's the case fans tho. O.O I never heard of them doing that tbf.. Would be neat but they used to spin all the time =p guess as long as i stay low temps I'll be fine

[fallow sleet]

"Find the bees" oh that's so me rofl.

[inner sand]

if they're using a 4-pin connector that 4th pin is used for data to gather data such as RPMs as well as turning it off/on. 🙂

[fervent ether]

open case and use box fan or something to bow air into it ez

[inner sand]

and no, not 4-pin molex. the other one. lol

[viral halo]

Just enjoy the game, do not compare yourself to others. ARPGs take time, use yours as you want, build guides can help you get higher in Level

[fallow sleet]

I legit am going to be playing a 4 companion build. This is not a joke. I'm going to do it. Screw the haters.

[main frigate]

good morning, remember to stay hydrated, get caffeined?

[honest belfry]

working on all of that right now. Thank you 🙂 and good morning

[subtle loom]

Oh I just didn’t see the point since the season is around the corner lvl 99 at Poe atm

[fervent ether]

you going to race or have any goals for day 1

[wispy imp]

@honest belfry Sorry for ping but thought you'd find this helpful for announcements: https://www.hammertime.cyou/ allows you to setup a time slot and provides you a discord chat syntax that you can then paste into your announcements which will auto translate the time you posted into the time zone of whomever reads it. For example, <t:1755705600:f> is 11 AM for us in Central but will automatically read 12 PM for east coast readers

[azure yacht]

You gonna be busy tomorrow with why servers down heh

[ancient garnet]

I wouldn't do this. Filters on fans make a huge difference. Just inviting extra dust inside the case

[lone minnow]

I should be able to mount my trex and ride him around, please make that happen EHG

[main frigate]

all of that?

[subtle loom]

Nah not really I just wanna see if I should main this game instead of Poe 1

[fervent ether]

its way better than poe

unless you love poe trading

[jolly moon]

I was used to Tuesday patches because of Blizzard and tought the patch is today, imagine my disappointmen realizing I have to wait 2 more days 😅

[azure yacht]

GGG seems to be indecisive with the direction of it. First it was going to merged to poe2, then it's not, I heard probably won't be focusing on that game much

[ancient garnet]

I like LE because I can make a build myself, and it's fairly viable. More complex than Diablo, less worisome than PoE

[inner sand]

this

the holy trinity: D4->Le->POE 😛

[honest belfry]

got any new builds in mind for the season?

[signal sluice]

i got thursday off because i worked for my boss for her birthday thank god 🙏🏻

[fervent ether]

wagie

[main frigate]

what your planned build is?

[ancient garnet]

I like the new Acolyte changes with Lich, but I've never gone far ona beastmaster, so probably go that route. Mainly jsut winging it

[subtle loom]

Yeah I feel ya I will be trying to go on my own build till I hit. A wall

[honest belfry]

two handed Lich. That's all I have so far

[signal sluice]

are u guys making forge guard fun this patch

[azure yacht]

Thursday only half day of gaming. I got friday off. Hopefully, work is slow Thursday so I can get headstart lol

[inner sand]

forge guard? that exists? :3 kidding

[main frigate]

Good luck. We're not on the same boat this time :)

[south moat]

Froge guard is the best

[honest belfry]

sentinel got a full rework last season

[west ivy]

am swapping the order of the three builds I want to play this season because I tried to figure out shuriken rogue and ended up just being umbral blade rogue instead :V
so it's time for minion forge guard or spirit thorner druid

[signal sluice]

wick if i could use my emotes from other servers id have the perfect response for that in emote form :/

[hexed tide]

is anyone willing to help me get my first uber abby kill? I'm not bad I'm just not great. It's on my paladin on legacy. I can really easily mindlessly farm 700 corruption but I can't seem to go long enough without a single slip up on uber abberoth. If someone has absolute god tier dps to reduce the amount of time I need to do well I think I could win.

[inner sand]

got to p2w those emotes

[signal sluice]

[ancient garnet]

Lol I started last season going heartseeker, then found a nice unique for shurikens, and found my build for the rest lol

[hexed tide]

yes, and I love it, I've had a blast playing my legacy paladin 🙂

[fervent ether]

leveling infernal shade warlock until rune of ascendence drop a ring of putreleacence and a stygian coal, then switching to a infernal shade zombie spawner stygian coal lich and racing to 100 with that setup, then farming ghostflame idols and switching to ghostflame to farm the rest of gear, then see how much corruption ghostflame can do

[subtle loom]

Anyone in eu I could add if I have question on day 1

[azure yacht]

ES got a big nerf with void well right? Still gonna be decent or no?

[hazy gust]

the chat is gonna be chaos on the 21st again xD

[pine fox]

Forge Guard still needs work even after the rework, imo

[inner sand]

as much chaos at 1.0 release? lmao

[azure yacht]

20th with why server down lol

[west ivy]

scissor of atropos or li'raka claws?

[inner sand]

i was there, 3,000 years ago. :3