⭕┃circle-of-fortune

[sly birch]

really depends how popular ur build is

i agree if you're playing an unpopular build

[storm nest]

nah, i played falconer meta and was smooth sail

[sly birch]

but, for instance, if you plan on going heartseeker rogue, MG will be a pain in the ass

I don't think falconer was ever the actual meta #1 build except when it first came out

[storm nest]

yep

[sly birch]

Exploding ballista, infinite ward warlock, static orb archmage sorc were all #1 and an absolute pain in the ass to play MG

stuff was always way out of budget

[storm nest]

my second build was a ward warlock

no issues too, and ican bet my house i geared him WAY faster trough mg

[sly birch]

you must of not played it when it was the #1 build

before the patch

[storm nest]

yeah it was before the patch

with infinite ward

[sly birch]

idk but your expierence was much different than mine

if you wanted anythign with any LP it was crazy expensive

back when people were pushing 4k corruption and gold from corruption didn't have diminishing returns

the cost of things were crazy

[glass musk]

i also played warlock on the crazy ward era and was sweet on mg

expensive? sure

but i also dropped wl shit that i didnt needed and sold for expensive

[storm nest]

^

p much

[sly birch]

if you want to have a loot filter for all the top builds and constantly be price checking

and farmign enough gold

then you can do any of the top builds even when it's expensive

but that's what makes it a pain in the ass

[storm nest]

using a loot filter?

[sly birch]

like what you're saying made it easy is what I'm saying is a pain in the ass

[storm nest]

what is a pain?

[sly birch]

picking up 3x the loot, price checking all of it, and updating anything that hasn't sold after price checking it and changing the price

[storm nest]

you dont pick 3x loot? or you enjoy setting prophecies? rerolling the same 300 times?

[sly birch]

price checking takes so much more time than other games

[storm nest]

each of them has a level of pain in the ass

[sly birch]

prophecies are more fun

if it's not filtered out by my loot filter it's an upgrade

[storm nest]

thats subjective, imo setting them and rerolling them 300 times isnt fun

[sly birch]

so i'm not picking up 3x as much loot

price checking is just such a pain. Prochecies are fine extra things. Tbh only really need them for red ring

[storm nest]

so you miss out crazy double exalted on other classes/ potential builds?

[sly birch]

most other uniques are fine with just regular target farming

[storm nest]

well, if you are a 1 toon per cycle, sure

[sly birch]

yeah, i'm not picking up loot for future builds

[storm nest]

yeah since you only build 1 toon its w/e

thats another pain on cof for alts

when i have enough bank i can just gear an alt instantly

[sly birch]

the time it takes to get that much money is just not fun for me personally

I tried it every season so far

and man it just slows the pace of the game down for me

makes me compare my build to others (am I clearing fast enough ,am I keeping up with economy)

more fomo if I can't play for a day cuz Irl

Cof is just more chill

[glass musk]

its literally the opposite imo

[storm nest]

yeah it is

[sly birch]

if you're comparing youself to others in cof

idk what's going on with u

[glass musk]

if you dont farm daily like a sick one you wont come close gear wise with someone that play 1-2 hours daily on mg

[storm nest]

exactly

[sly birch]

it doesn't matter though

[storm nest]

so mg is the chill experience

not cof

[sly birch]

you aren't competing against them in the economy

your amount of gold/h vs theirs doesn't matter

[storm nest]

your drops/h matter for you

if you want to get 2 weeks without a upgrade, sure

[sly birch]

if you're comparing yourself in cof that's an issue

mentally

imo

[storm nest]

same can be said with mg

[sly birch]

like you'll burn yourself out

[storm nest]

lol

[sly birch]

I agree, it's bad in mg too

[glass musk]

played both 2 times, didnt have this issue with mg, this fomo, this stress

[sly birch]

but much easier to ignore in cof imo

[rich remnant]

CoF is chill, I can play at any place, sleep on launch, start in legacy with lvl 80 char with some prefarmed basic gear etc
MG is rush

[sly birch]

^^^^

[storm nest]

mg is far from rush lol

[glass musk]

lmao

[sly birch]

if you fall behind in economy

you're a leg down

[storm nest]

loot will drop the same way dude, like i said on gold exploit example

everything was costing way more

i sold shit for way more

its irrelevant

[glass musk]

cof you need to farm EASILY 5x more than someone on mg to get even close ( if you want to min max or fine tune you may never )

[storm nest]

^^^

[sly birch]

not really. If you get ahead in mg and push the first few days you get a leg up. you get more drops and more gold in the economy, you sell things for higher price because you're one of the first people to list double exalts, rarer uniques, etc. So you're selling for more and building up a higher reserve of gold that you can use to skyrocket your build even faster to higher corruption to get more gold, items, etc. Or just clearing insanely faster to get more gold, items, etc.

If you're behind this person, you're buying their items, you're following the economy their setting, you will never catch up, no matter what, they not only have a lead, but their lead keeps them ahead of you

that's basically the economy of every arpg, and why the first week matters so much

[glass musk]

you are missing the point on the catch up

[sly birch]

you don't catch up vs someone with no life

[glass musk]

you dont need to catch up if your gear will already be better than anyone playing on cof 5x more than youy

[sly birch]

you're not vsing peopel in cof

you're vsing the no lifer in the economy

in mg

[storm nest]

lol i know a warlock cof dude playing since 1.0 trying to fine tune his gear, he is still there

[sly birch]

who's setting the prices

[storm nest]

at this point i would have perfect gear on every slot

[sly birch]

in cof

it doesn't matter if you miss a day

if you get behind the no lifer in cof

[glass musk]

i give up

[rich remnant]

I'm hugely torn between started new char in league or reusing old one rn
I really don't wanna do whole campaign again T_T

[sly birch]

it doesn't affect your progress

but the farther behind u get in MG the worse MG gets

[storm nest]

dude is making catch up looks harsher than it is on reality lol, even if you start playing months later you will gear up way easier than any time on cof ( specially buying key itens for 0 gold lol )

[sly birch]

doesn't matter how behind u are in cof, it remains the same

[storm nest]

yeah, remains shit

[glass musk]

love farming a month for a 3lp key item

[sly birch]

you sound just salty

[glass musk]

so good

[storm nest]

yeah lol

if ever

good luck on rng

[rich remnant]

I wonder how bad getting meta 3lp in MG is tho

[sly birch]

enjoy playing price checker half the time Ig

if you're this salty against cof

why are you typing in this channel?

[rich remnant]

I feels like if you're plaing top 3 popular builds in MG it's gonna be rough

[glass musk]

as bad as it can be, you are working towards it, selling things little by little and you will get there

on cof you can spend months and dont get there

thats the deal

[sly birch]

it always is

[calm eagle]

what do i get from mg as saf?

[sly birch]

so badly

[storm nest]

nailed

[glass musk]

there is 0 guarantees

on mg as long you are selling shit, you will get there

[sly birch]

until the price increases because it's a popular build, the amount of people playing drop off so the supply goes down, etc

and half the time your playing ur adjusting prices in the bazaar

not even playign the game

[glass musk]

yeah because everything i sell will be the same price forever

[sly birch]

not really my cup of tea

[glass musk]

see your issue here lmao

[rich remnant]

my problem with MG is that you need to know what to sell
like, I'm planning to play HS mm, I have pretty much 0 idea what gear outside of my class is useful

[glass musk]

loot filter

[storm nest]

dont need to know shit

[sly birch]

that doesn't answer what they said

[storm nest]

it does

what

[glass musk]

lmao

[sly birch]

It doesn't

I think yall are just kinda salty rn

[glass musk]

i think you are just baiting rn

[sly birch]

you still gotta know what to set the loot filter to

just "loot filter"

isn't an answer

[calm eagle]

gold sellers clearly

[glass musk]

set what

[sly birch]

WAIT IT MAKES SENSE NOW

[rich remnant]

it really doesn't
if lootfilter highlights some item I still need to pricecheck it, which is rather annoying

[sly birch]

omg

holy shit they do buy gold

or sell it

wait it makes so much more sense now

[glass musk]

you know there is even a discord with this? you can literally copy from? its constantly update?

i mean, you are clearly baiting

[sly birch]

i was wondering if they were trolling

[storm nest]

or baiting or too dense idk

[sly birch]

but that was a good catch @calm eagle

[storm nest]

highlights per price mark lol

[glass musk]

now he will act like crazy

classic

[storm nest]

dudes a clown

[sly birch]

Gotta stick to name calling when you lose an argument

classic

[rich remnant]

not quite get it, never used lootfilters from others, on CoF you just filter what you want and it's gucci

[sly birch]

simple life, happy life

[storm nest]

"holy shit they do buy gold" classic

what a clown jesus

[glass musk]

he couldnt argue with the loot filter argument and he lost it

so funny

[sly birch]

if you can't control your emotions

[rich remnant]

I'm willing to try MG ngl, but it really feels like quite complicated, and with less loot less dophamine

[sly birch]

i'm not going to converse with you

[storm nest]

if you cant use your brain

[sly birch]

if a video game conversation makes you this emotional

[storm nest]

wonder who is emotional lmao

[glass musk]

he is not a clown

he is the whole circus

[storm nest]

fact lol

[sly birch]

ngl one of the worst feelings is feeling like you found something good, and then seeing there's million of it on the Mg selling for 0

or just buying an item you needed. it kinda is just less of a dopamine hit

[storm nest]

thats why you learn to use a loot filter LMAOOOO

i give up

[glass musk]

its like talking to a brick wall

[rich remnant]

getting cool item which isn't suitable for your build isn't that great too

[sly birch]

half of them still go for 0 gold though

I thought i'd have fun selling the uniques I got that i wouldn't use

but 90% of them were just useless

and it took tiem out of my day price checking them and seeing which ones were useful

def less fun

atleast for me

[glass musk]

yeah because in cof they are so useful if you are not gonna use them

[rich remnant]

you don't use them in CoF too tho
I get the appeal of MG
I spent 1 hour today trying to get some shitty quiver which would cost 0 on MG, but I can't get a single quiver echo in map, and favor gains are quite low
with MG I could've just bought

[sly birch]

nah I see what you're saying, i'm just saying MG doesn't really use them too.

like it doesn't solve the problem like I thought it would

if the quiver is going for 0, it should be easy to farm. MG is good for the 0 cost items, but it's the higher cost items and gold farming and all of that, which make it a less fun expierence for me

[glass musk]

gotta name that dude the brickwall

[sly birch]

if you enjoy the market

[storm nest]

psyduck pfp what do you expect

[sly birch]

and like

price checking

and knowing which builds are popular

and picking up items for each popular build

[glass musk]

lmao

[sly birch]

and trying to keep up with how the market shifts

the MG is prob fun

there's ppl in poe who only do the market

but i'm not one of those people

[rich remnant]

how often do you need to update filter tho?
and how bad is the situation with runes, since you get way more glyphs/runes on CoF

[storm nest]

not bad at all, last cycle i updated it like 2 times per month? iirc

market doesnt do those crazy flips like people that clearly not played mg or dont know what they are doing say

most updates are on first to second weeks since ppl are discovering the meta, then its pretty chill

[peak smelt]

Guys please be respectful and civil

[rich remnant]

mind sharing the link where to get? still not quite sure if I wanna go MG, but having link saved won't hurt for sure

[cinder ridge]

I haven't played MG before. When you guys talk about 0 gold unique are you talking about the common ones that might be build enabling but you just aren't seeing them with cof? What if you want like a 3LP titans heart

[terse shard]

It's in the server share

Sanctum something

[sly birch]

On legacy, there's only 3 for sale and it's going for 300 million, a the other 2 are 1.5 billion. Would be more expensive on a seasonal server.

What's weird about MG is that the 0lp titan hearts are 0gold, which is great if your buying them. But if you're trying to build up gold to buy that 3lp one, you can't sell them.

Idk if cof is actually better in getting items like this, but the cof bonus of items being 2x as likely to have LP is def kinda big. Plus the extra runes of ascendancies u get + the bonus of them not being consumed.

I'd have to do the math, but it may not be as one sided as ppl think

[peak smelt]

Unsure why you'd think it'd be more expensive in season

[sly birch]

Less supply

That's my though process anyway

[peak smelt]

Yes but there's also way, way, way less gold

[sly birch]

Oh that's a good point

Less inflation

[glass musk]

and the math is already done.

[peak smelt]

Prices on legacy realms are usually way lower yep

[glass musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5vK-O0ylYs

[sly birch]

But if you adjust for inflation I think it might still be harder to get on seasonal

[peak smelt]

Plus there were some gold dupes and stuff that really inflated the prices before

[terse shard]

I'm going to be neutral on the matter, but there are some things that I've found while doing MG:

1. Uniques are a lot more expensive than legendaries, and most of the time you're dropping uniques -> more gold to sell
2. Your main source of gold is not actually gold, but stuff like boss/rare drops and such. Apathy's maw, for example, is 1 million cheapest as unique, and it's incredibly common drop.
   This is all speaking about cycle prices. Legacy is completely irrelevant for so many reasons.

[cinder ridge]

Hmm ok interesting, I got a 3LP exsang in 1.0 and a good amount of 1s and 2s just doing prophecies. I guess with the guaranteed slam it makes MG a literally free option to get 1LP legendaries with the stat of your choice

[glass musk]

plus its 100x more alt friendly

and specially stash friendly lol

[cinder ridge]

My CoF stash is full of double exalted items for builds I'll never play

[glass musk]

yeah its a pain

[cinder ridge]

Even triples

[sly birch]

Yeah, it's prob still less time consuming in MG. Idk if it's as much of a gap though with the buffs cof has. But I can't get myself to spend hours price checking and spending time in the bazaar

I did it too much the past few seasons

[cinder ridge]

I gotta pick em up but then it's just clutter

[terse shard]

Yeah tbh I'm not sure why they don't use the mg filter for stash

[cinder ridge]

Oh man that's a good idea

[terse shard]

It's already there

[glass musk]

thats what i like about mg, filter showed something? sell it, gg, want to build a new toon? you prob have currency already for it, easy to build

its more friendly in a lot of ways

[terse shard]

You don't have to do that. Just use the already available loot filter from the sanctum discord

[sly birch]

It's the updating the prices according to how the market goes, esp week1

It just isn't fun spending my time organizing my marketplace. Atleast for me. Some ppl love it though

Id rather be blasting

[terse shard]

Ofc. You have to change your mindset honestly. Don't chase the fomo of the cheap/expensive first few days prices. Just relax & play the trade game for the long run. You want the price to stabilize, not fluctuate.

[sly birch]

And idk, I feel like i lost some dopamine hits for a few builds I did when I just bought the upgrade piece I needed for the next big upgrade. Didn't feel as good to me

But that's just me

[glass musk]

dude is bath in fomo

just lol

[sly birch]

Oh i mean if I set it to like 100k and then it stabalizes for 60k, i'd obv have to adjust for that

Checking for those kinda changes

[terse shard]

It's very fast, just like referring to an excel & comparing with what uniques you have. Ctrl + f, etc etc

[sly birch]

Nah I get it, that's just not how I like to play my games lol

[terse shard]

But anyway I'm done posting in the wrong channel

[sly birch]

Appareciate the views regardless ❤️

[glass acorn]

Please share Weaver Tree for Cicle of furtune.

[sly birch]

I'm not sure coF has any particular weaver tree

It's more just suited to your playstyle

Maybe prio lootlizards cuz they benefit from cof buffs? Idk. Most of the nodes benefit from cof buffs. So prob just whatever looks the most fun

[granite light]

when you cant get a basic unique to drop for 2 days and than 2LP version drops -.-

[nimble crater]

#🎥┃video-shoutout message

[delicate orchid]

hmm yeah Frozen went for exp maxing it seems. Im still not sure how easy it will be to find all the unique woven echoes
and since you can buy them for amber in a shop, i feel like it might be better to path for increase amber and drops first just to farm up points

[broken breach]

I think getting Weaver tree points first by getting Elder Sap, Darkwoven Threads and branching up towards Graveborn Paths to do many Woven Echoes will be the way, assuming we get Weaver Tree points by completing incomplete Woven Echoes.

[gilded lark]

weaver respec seemed to be really cheap so you will probably be adjusting it based on what you are currently farming

[delicate orchid]

Do we know how much amber we will be farming and what the respec costs are?

we do know the echo prizes for amber in the shop

[gilded lark]

they showed respec cost of like uh 40 amber in one of the videos? Might be a placeholder but might be not

[delicate orchid]

oh well that would be dirt cheap compared to woven echo shop prizes being 1000s

There are also only 4 echoes you cant buy, well some need max rank weaver

[broken breach]

If that's the case getting woven echo drops boosted will be important for progression, again assuming we get points by completing incomplete echoes, like other games do.

[delicate orchid]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/monolith/woven-echoes

letools says we do

patch notes says so as well:

Travelers will be able to gain a maximum of 50 Weaver Tree points, and as mentioned above, you will gain points by increasing your rank with the Woven and completing Woven Echoes for the first time.

[broken breach]

Yeah, I wasn't sure. Good to know. But buying echoes will also increase faction rank. But all this also needs enough cemeteries, so getting more cemeteries might be needed.

[delicate orchid]

Yeah in order to get points you need to actually be able to place echoes on your monolith

[broken breach]

So memory amber for first points, path towards cemeteries and start doing woven echoes with what woven echo drops you got stockpiled.

[gilded lark]

its confirmed that we do

[gilded lark]

the placing itself is just finding any cemetery, right? Those shouldnt be too rare

but you might want to spec the weaver tree into finding more

[delicate orchid]

yeah just find a cemetery according to patch notes

[wooden shuttle]

cemeteries are also the ones that give two idol enchants vs one from tombs

3x one from a rank 4 woven echo
4x one from a rank 9

i hope one run of a cemetery is enough for like 4x enchants + some change

so 2k minimum memory amber

[twin wolf]

inbefore 3m amber to rank 12 💀

[wooden shuttle]

💀 plz no

[granite light]

blah i want a hakarr to drop and i swear i found like 20 tempest maws and taste of bloods -.-

[granite light]

in general is it faster to proc prophecies or to target farm the unique nodes in a timeline>

for 0 lp specific items

[nimble crater]

Pretty sure I read somewhere that prophecies are faster

But you can block reward types now in timelines, that might change things up a bit

[granite light]

I heard someone mention new lenses? How much did the base value increase?

Because I’ve had rough luck getting even 0 lp items I needed this patch

[nimble crater]

One new lens that'll block all non-mono prophecies. If that's efficient to run is something for mathier nerds to figure out

[gilded lark]

with average play at average corruption levels you can farm how much favor per hour, 50k? I don't remember offhand what the bottom line is for uniques prophecies with relevant lens but let's say it's in the ballpark of 500 favor per item. Thus you can get prophecies for about 100 uniques per hour. Let's make it 80 for a conservative estimate.

In comparison with this you'd need to be lucky to find more than about 5 mono-specific uniques nodes in an hour of clearing that mono. Let's be generous and make it 8.

See where this is going?

[gilded lark]

that was obviously without taking this into account

[granite light]

I’m not talking about corruption farming I’m talking about build enabling starter items m, per example naals tooth

[gilded lark]

then that's a wash cause you are likely to find 0 mono-specific unique nodes in normal monos, and only a little more in 100 corr empowered

[granite light]

I’ve seen a few in normal

But basically my main issue is the build I want to play requires uniques that took me ages to farm in season 1. So i wonder if it’s going to be more feasible in season 2

Or my sample size is small and I genuinely had bad luck ofc

[gilded lark]

it might be a little more feasible in s2 with weaver's tree but don't expect to play it early on

if you focus your runes of ascendance, cof prophecies, mono selection and weaver tree on finding it, you are increasing your odds, but with a small sample size it's always gonna be RNG based

[granite light]

Yeah but the 0 lp versions you’d think they’d all drop within a week 🤣

[gilded lark]

sure but "a week" is a very variable amount of actual and effective play time depending on what you are actually doing

[granite light]

The alternative of course is staying on the legacy character but what’s the fun in that

[gilded lark]

"a week" of playing 1-2 hours a day mostly spent on leveling is different from "a week" of blasting 500-1000 corr 15 hours a day

[granite light]

Oh nah let’s say 20-30 hours of casual plebbing.

Also there’s less loot lizards now for runes I think? But there’s also more nodes for that on tree so with specking that might work as usual

[gilded lark]

there should be less lizards in campaign and monos but you can target them in dungeons with the new charm and there are specific lizard-infested woven echoes, so depending on how accessible either of those are you might be able to "target farm" lizards

[granite light]

Yeah depends how often the echoes drop so to speak I guess

I mean I could go wolves and respec when I get the raptor sword

But the problem with league starters that require uniques is that RNG can be unkind to you even if your lens setup is good

[gilded lark]

which is why builds that require specific uniques are usually not counted among league starters

especially if you are on cof

I'm starting on paladin which has like a dozen of good builds that require no uniques, that's a more rational plan since I'm not going MG

[terse shard]

Sorry for the offtopic, but if you NEED specific uniques or your build didn't function, you need to go mg. End of the story. If you're lucky and it's non meta, it's also going to be pretty cheap.

[wraith hazel]

Just no. We (CoF) can get any specific unique in a reasonable time.
"Need to go MG" is a hoax.

If you like trading go MG, if you don't like it, go CoF. Not more not less

[terse shard]

Can you define "reasonable time" please?

[wraith hazel]

Define the unique. ^^

[terse shard]

Ok sure, let's say Wraithlord.

[wraith hazel]

My teammate played that this season, didn't seem to be hard to get that, we just threw like a few prophs on it. (3-5)

But let's say you are starting and have no Prophs: That is 23 RoA in average. You will see around that even before you hit the level to wear the helmet.

Even with bad luck, that is not a hard goal.

• Lizzards
• Nemmys

[winter shadow]

frozensentinel got multiple red rings on his sparkcharge FC in the first week iirc

aint no way you get that in MG

[wraith hazel]

I've seen 45 Red Rings this season. What what the price of a RR in MG?

[terse shard]

Well ofc I'm not going to play as much as him in the first week 🫠

[wraith hazel]

Just asking for a friend

[winter shadow]

you will not get 45 RR in one single MG season

that's for sure

[wraith hazel]

MG will catch up here tho, with guaranteed slam

[terse shard]

I'm so confused. Why would you need 45 RR tho?

[winter shadow]

well you have 10 fingers, and slamming odd is 1/4 so

checks out

[wraith hazel]

Multiple chars asked for a T7 RR.

And I accidently deleted 2x T7 on a dead HC char

[terse shard]

Also frozensentinel's vid has stated it's easier to farm red rings as cof, so idk what to argue about

[wraith hazel]

35 or more are bricks btw ^^

[terse shard]

We were mostly talking about build enabling uniques at the beginning of season

[winter shadow]

which is literally the same as target farming RR

🤷🏽‍♂️ no?

[rustic grotto]

Red ring is the hardest to get? If that is "easy" then anything is.

[terse shard]

You don't have the double prophecies, or the lenses, or enough favors, etc etc

[wraith hazel]

Yeah, and there is no hard to farm build enabler that comes to my mind

We have a channel to advertise MG, but that's not here. 🙂

Here is the people that are happy with their faction 😊

[terse shard]

And I'm not advertising MG lol

[wraith hazel]

That's how this started

[terse shard]

Nono, you got me wrong. Let me tell you my origin story. Once upon a time ago someone told me that cof is the best for everything, so I'm very excited to do it. After farming for so long, using roa etc, I didn't get my build enabling unique. I get so frustrated I actually quit the game.

Then I decide to join the dark side

It was day & night for me

[wraith hazel]

But honestly, there is no "if xyz must take MG".

Build enablers were easy to farm for me in 4 cycles now and it is getting easier with every patch.

Even as a beginner getting Scurry Helm in 1.0 (my first build) was not that crazy

[terse shard]

So that's why I was informing someone who's frustrated

Who's not finding the unique that he want

That he can change side to just buy that unique

That's all

No offense intended in any way shape or form

[gilded lark]

did they amputate your legs? no respect for toes smh

also you can fit way more than 1 ring per finger, come on now

[wraith hazel]

I didn't feel offensed, only think the recommendation was plain wrong.

I'd rather point out the multiple ways to approach such an item hunt. And sorry, if not for a bit item hunt, why do you play this 🙂

[lost sedge]

10 ring wearing mastery when?

[terse shard]

Idk why everytime I read your msgs I would laugh so hard

[terse shard]

Hah even the other game only +1 ring as a mastery bonus. No game dares to use all your fingers for some reasons

[lost sedge]

Most of the rules around it are just some form of "the magic would interfere with each other." Goes back to D&D I think, maybe further than that. I can't remember exactly.

[terse shard]

Yeah I understand that. Just some handwavy thing to prevent balance issues maybe

[lost sedge]

Basically

[storm nest]

Last season when they introduced it, I did one character of both. I had t7 stats on my legendaries before I got to 200 corruption on the mg guy. The cof was running around in flat uniques till waaaay later. Like I just bought 3 2lp versions of the weapon, three epics with the right stats, and went and did sanctums. So eh, debatable, wont even mention fine tuning, gl with that on cof

[gilded lark]

E Z, just apply common sense to it, how long is the average ring when straightened? 5cm or so? So your 10 rings would still be 1/4 as long as a real staff, thus 1/4 as effective

[lost sedge]

This MG propaganda is getting out of hand.

[native shell]

they need more players..

[wraith hazel]

Thanks, had that now a few cycles and looking forward to S2 as CoF aswell.
I bet I've seen more crazy gear, then most MG people even can dream of ^^
I had also some quite high rankings, so seems it was competitive enough 🙂

Finetuning is only pain, when it comes to exalts.

[storm nest]

really doubt, even frozen talked about this, 100 hours on cof you can bet you wont have even close gear power wise someone with 100 hours on mg has lol, its simple math

not to mention huge stash issues

but if you play 1-2 classes per cycle is irrelevant lol

[winter shadow]

then play MG

why are u here

🤔

[storm nest]

free discord, thx for the allowance

[wraith hazel]

Funny thing, never see that MG chars, only hear of them 😄

[glass musk]

you have eyes, use them

[gilded lark]

it's a pyramid scheme, just like egyptology

[wraith hazel]

Yeah, for the top 0,000001 % MG is the best, no doubts at all ^^

But we are not saying CoF is the best

We are saying: You can achieve TOP chars easily and it makes fun

[glass musk]

easily sure, never spend weeks chasing x exalt

lmao

bias

[wraith hazel]

And for a few scenarios, CoF is even better ^^

[storm nest]

dude is baiting

[glass musk]

100%

[wraith hazel]

Saying the trolls 🙂

[lost sedge]

MG players always coming to check out the CoF channel because they see the grass is greener.

[frosty pelican]

It seems like your point is that MG gets these build enabling uniques earlier so they can begin playing their preferred build right away instead of using some transitional build?

This is probably true if it's an off meta unique that you can get for cheap early I guess. But even then you aren't that far ahead of COF and if its a good or high demand item you would need to be a really efficient MG player to buy it that early anyway when supply is low and demand high.

Plus even then, I was R12 before day 3 in 1.1 and it got faster since then. It's not like you will have issues.

Also as I've shared before this is my HC SSF character lol https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/FrozenSentinel&subid1=20250220-0557-0096-82d6-71f863839f28/character/DeadBeforeMonos

And it's not even that minmaxed

[wraith hazel]

I'd like to have 3 even similar MG chars posted now 😄 Not even speaking of "MG is so much better always" ^^

And respect Frozen, really nice stuff for HC, really hot!

*SSF

[frosty pelican]

But yeah MG is probably better, it doesn't matter though, we still do fine with COF

[storm nest]

[wraith hazel]

That's my point for quite a while now 😄

And in the end I see chars like yours only from CoF, never from MG ^^

[frosty pelican]

It's not because MG players can't get those chars, but usually because the types of players doing MG are less likely to minmax one single character like COF people for weeks or months

My characters have a stupid number of hours in each one

[lost sedge]

Its a playstyle preference. If you want to min max and you want to do it now MG is going to win every time. If you like the incremental process of min maxing and finding loot yourself then CoF.

[ancient osprey]

trading is a chore, change my mind
we finally have an arpg where ssf is fun, boggles my mind how people play mg

[wraith hazel]

Ofc, but that still shows how good CoF can "compete"

[terse shard]

I understand where you're coming from, but you are mostly talking about beginning of season, where everyone is tryharding pretty much. However, I'm a casual player who plays at my own pace, only reaching endgame when price has stabilized. So for people like me, it's a literal feast of good stuff, especially offmeta. Is it expensive if it's meta? Sure. Is it still buyable without needing to be lucky with drops/proph/etc? Yes sir.

[glass musk]

i would gladly enjoy cof if we had more stash tabs lol, till they tackle this issue, its a auto skip sadly

its just a pain

[lost sedge]

Yep, every time I think about trading in that other game I audibly groan. CoF makes playing SSF a viable and pain free process.

[frosty pelican]

I've said it before but in 1.0 I was pushing mage arena ladder, I got to Rank 1 fairly easily after the previous rank 1 (mg) quit playing weeks earlier. But then my build became popular and people started competing, eventually I got surpassed by a few MG players that were similarly motivated to minmax the same build. I couldn't compete with good MG players who did want to actually compete

[terse shard]

No, that's just a bandaid. They need to put mg filtering on the stash

[glass musk]

that too

they have the tech on mg already

[lost sedge]

I can't say I've had an issue with stash tabs as a CoF player, weird.

[glass musk]

idk what they are waiting for lol

[terse shard]

Exactly

[glass musk]

how many builds you play per cycle?

[lost sedge]

3-4

[wraith hazel]

6-10 here

[pliant dagger]

1-2 max

[wraith hazel]

2-3 bigger and a few 0-90 and new

[frosty pelican]

I'll agree with this, sure. If you play slow and aren't competing for the "best items" you'll have a good time with MG.

Trade always has a huge price premium for that extra last 10% of power, the perfect roll, the last extra LP, etc.

Sweaty players compete with Sweaty players

I pretty much only played mage and still filled 200 tabs xd

Think 1.2 will be better for cof stash space thougg

[glass musk]

exactly the issue they need to tackle

imagine if you played a lot of dif builds

and this feedback its been given since 1.0

[ancient osprey]

how so, wouldnt you pick more items for havoc

[lost sedge]

Runes of Havoc might make it worth picking up more stuff now that would have previously been ignored so I could certainly see it being an issue.

[frosty pelican]

The issue is tackled to some degree. Before you needed like 10 copies of each unique, exalt affix, etc. To make sure you'll get your slam.

No no no guys.

Yes Havoc makes more items useful BUT it also means your stash is more liquid.

Instead of needing T7s of every single affix you might potentially use, you just need a stash of T7s and havocs

[terse shard]

I personally think havoc is just an incredibly rare drop tho

[frosty pelican]

"OH I'm going to keep this random rare T7 on a good base in the off chance I use it" you don't need to do this as much

[lost sedge]

Should be about as rare as runes of ascendence if LE Tools is anything to go by.

[ancient osprey]

did you figure out any smart lootfilter logic to pick items for havoc? especially if you are looking at exalts for slams where you need 1-2 stats, how would you filter those without highlighting 90% trash

[frosty pelican]

Before I kept all my giga rare stuff because I knew if I ever did need it I'd probably never find it again

[frosty pelican]

You can filter for multi exalt

[ancient osprey]

wdym

[frosty pelican]

Multi T7 or T7 + T6

Etc

[ancient osprey]

thats not what i mean, if i wanted to have 1 specific prefix as t7
but i wanna pick up items that have that affix(any tier) + any random affix t7

there is no rule for that right

[frosty pelican]

I think you can do that? I'd need to look

But also idk if it matters, it's not worth being so specific. You can despair or removal, single T7 is common enough

[ancient osprey]

i guess

i just prefer filters where i know i want to pick up everything i see so i can just blast

[frosty pelican]

You'll want to be sparing with havocs, but T7s will be plentiful

IMO you just build up a number of tabs of T7s on each item type then turn it off

Then show only T7 you care about on good base maybe or multi T7

[ancient osprey]

thats probably the smoothest way to go about it

cheers

[pliant dagger]

So, let's say, that I am going to play at most a first week of the season and want to squeeze the most of a single meta build (most likely UB Falconer), do I sent myself into CoF or MG?

[twin wolf]

Unless you plan to play like 20+ hrs every day out of that week I'd go MG. While CoF is nice you are unlikely to achieve same hights on relatively short notice with it.

[low birch]

How do you guys think fortune will perform in this season? Will be strong with new crafting or a bit weaker with the new weaver

[twin wolf]

It is already strong. Only going to get better.

If you play long enough that is :D Kinda D2 style

[low birch]

I do have more dopamine playing fortune with the big loot explosions tbh

they are still here right? the explosions

[twin wolf]

yeh, they travel with u to echo hub if harbinger rips u a new one with 1.2 now too 😏

[sly birch]

Why would weaver make it weaker?

The biggest buff imo is the lens that makes all prophecies monos. That's so nice.

Imo, anything that gives us more loot disproportionately is a buff to cof as opposed to MG. So like since we have the chance for mobs to drop double loot, that's higher chances for mobs to drop their weaver node affixes, like dropping a dungeon boss item or keys, etc.

And even better if it increases their drops of actual weaver faction related drops, to max out the faction faster.

Over all MG will always be easier to gear, but CoF is def closing the gap more each season.

[bitter folio]

The CoF ranks will be a pretty significant boost to quite a few mechanics this league.

The whole set at once thing is actually good now.
Rares getting converted to exalteds will be very good for the sealed affix imprints.

25% chance for 2 more idols (should) work on the new weaver 1x1 and 1x2 idols.

• a big one i think is the fact that we have a rune now for when we get a "bad" t7 (or even more importantly, a bad multiple t7)

[sly birch]

More runes in cof is always a huge boon

[alpine glen]

Guys, I played before and got to the monoliths and around lv 80 character.

One question, if I choose CoF, I'll still be able to play with friends and trade in the same zone? Only the auction house/trade will be disabled?

[rotund quartz]

Just because they have the Buddy item to trade items with friends due to item duping, no

[steady kayak]

yes, gifting to players who are in your party and instance when the item drops is not trading so still exists

[ruby sierra]

you can play with friends and trade stuff you drop in the same instance... resonances are still a thing (though they drop very rarely), but you can't use items that are the result of a different faction

[alpine glen]

Alright, awesome. It's SSF but way better xD

[sly birch]

Yes, you can trade freely if someone was in the same instance with you when an item dropped. You can trade that item to them.

If you play enough with them, you will get orbs that let you gift them items that dropped even when they weren't with you

The ONLY thing is that if you go MG and buy an item on the market, itll be tagged at an MG item, and if you give that to someone in CoF they Cannot equip it. In Cof we have extra items drop from prophecies, and those will be tagged as CoF.

[alpine glen]

The orb thing I had no idea! That's pretty cool!

[sly birch]

They only drop when ur playing with ur friend and will be tagged with that friends name

[alpine glen]

No reason to go MG then, since I don't want the headache and anxiety of trading like I normally do in the "other game" xD

Thanks guys!

[sly birch]

Glad to help ^^

[lament sand]

Also MG falls off once the playerbase shrinks

[gleaming mirage]

I read some comments on the forum thread and saw a comment that the single guarantee-able affix made 1LP items much more relevant and now I'm gonna wondering if that means anything for circling strategies

But I'm looking forward to grinding out a 1LP EE this season

And slapping T7 crit on it or something

[sly birch]

One of the benefits of MG was cheaper low LP items. Buying in bulk, and getting the 1 or 2lp slam you needed. (2lp being much more expensive, and later in the season).

Since you don't need to do that anymore for 1lp, it equalizes a lot of the early game leg up MG had on Cof.

I'd suspect 1lp items on MG will also drop in price a lot because of this. Making gold farming a bit harder.

But it's really just do you like playing the market and maybe never having the item u need dropped, but selling small items here and there to eventually buy it. Or would u rather target farm the item for a while and have much much higher chances of it dropping

[sly birch]

Guaranteed t7 movement speed on unique boots is amazing

[jolly wagon]

Hey guys, Im new to CoF. Are there any Strategies to start with?

[finite canopy]

FrozenSentinel has a exp strat if you look on his channel that he thinks will be decent. A lot more will come out over the weekend. Favor is king is basically the strat though for COF

[jolly wagon]

Alright thanks. Best to just play it how I like? for example just pick Monolith related prophecies? or its best to just farm whatever

[finite canopy]

Yeah I mean play any game how you like for fun man. There is so much new stuff that Idk what will be "Good" or "bad" but goign through monoliths and killing for favor for prophecies will always give more loot in COF. Gonna depend on what you want to do with your weaver's tree I suspect for best play.

[jolly wagon]

Fair bro thanks for your response.

[frosty pelican]

Hello friends, doing up some more COF content before S2 drops - my prophecy sheet is now updated and included info on prophecy changes; https://youtu.be/T_32CYU-Jbg 🙂

[still scarab]

awesome vid as usual, waiting for the lens update!

[brisk fox]

Thanks for the awesome set of vids recently. Relatively new player and they've been a major help. A general question for anyone though, on topic of the back and forth discussion above (and I'm sure may times prior) regarding MG vs CoF: don't a lot of comparison issues that someone might have about average character progress and the like just fall apart if you simply play SAF? Unless you have a decent group of similarly skilled people to play with, it seems like to me there's no reason to go CoF early and not go SAF since it puts you in a more appropriately competitive ladder. As a follow-up to that, how generally active is the SAF playerbase relative to the normal cycle group over the first month or so?

[granite light]

help me math something out. I get to lvl 66, with 20 percent swords and 15 percent uniques, how many drops on average would i need for naals tooth? (ascendancy spamming excluded ofc)

[twin wolf]

There is no faction-based segregation in ladders right now. There are four total: SC Arena and Experience, and HC Arena and Experience, unless there's a new bit of info I've completely missed.

[rustic grotto]

naals is 1/54 unique 1h swords, with your .2 and .15 that comes down to 1 in 1800

[wraith hazel]

The solo ladders seemed to be as competitive as non-solo ladders in the past.
So if you are really having an eye on certain rankings, that may not be much difference in the end.
This goes at least for Arena rankings

[granite light]

wait what? those stack on top right? why would they decrease with the lenses

[brisk fox]

Yes, hence my question about any concerns regarding character power progress in mg vs cof. Since it stems from a comparison, if you simply go SAF/SSF is it not simply better if you have that mindset? It does seem a shame there is no split for non-SAF/SSF. In putting together info about the game in prep I have seen it raised as a common suggestion in multiple forums though so I'm sure it's something EHG are aware of

[rustic grotto]

maybe I am misunderstanding the question?

[gilded lark]

ladders are a joke in this game, not even the developers give a shit about them. But yeah ideally this should be correct

[brisk fox]

Interesting. I'd be curious to see the general player numbers between the two ladders, but that's prob something that's not available

[granite light]

well if the base chance to drop is 1/54 (0 LP)

and i get the 15 percent chance of uniques blessing

and 20 percent sword lance

how much is left

xD

lens*

[brisk fox]

Mhm, I mentioned the ladders more so as a way to point to general player activity in either game mode, more so than from a "this is some high-tier level of gaming competition" type of thing.

[wraith hazel]

The lens does affect the prophs you can see, not what drops out of the prophecies you take

[twin wolf]

They seem to be working on it, global announcements is a step in right direction. Now someone just need to re-organize this decrepit mess and we gucci :)

[granite light]

so whats the end chance of a naals then? xD

[wraith hazel]

1:54

[granite light]

for every one handed sword i ascend or pick up, if the base chance is 1/54

is there any way to increase that chance?

[twin wolf]

1 in 54 Serrated Tooths that drop is Naals

[granite light]

oh, not all swords?

i think for rune of ascendancy it doesnt matter no

[wraith hazel]

No you can't affect the drop chance, you affect the prophecies that you can select.

[brisk fox]

If they're able to upkeep the 4 month timeline theyve been talking about recently it would seem like something they'd want to go for. As it is, doesnt this update have a few solid UI changes as far as inventory management goes?

[twin wolf]

Yea, this is a massive patch from development pov. They've cooked 50 mtx on top of functional changes xD

[granite light]

so my league starter is ruined? xD

I could stay legacy i guess, presuming the patch goes well entirely

[twin wolf]

Naals is on the rarer side but its not impossible to get it quickly. 2LP+ ones will be hard to get SSF

[granite light]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgzBBsQ like it says for rune of ascendancy its 1.85 chance

so that means one every 85 or so is gonna be that sword no? on average

Lizard hunting it is! thanks. xD

[wraith hazel]

Lizzards, Champions, Nemesis, RoA... there's many rolls for the uniques you may want.

And even if you fail to hit a build enabler for a while, you can usually play around that with a similar build until you get it.

[granite light]

yeah i dont know yet about the champion drop rates

[twin wolf]

Naals is weighted towards primalists too I guess, I've got multiple 2LP Chronostasis while maybe one 1LP Naals in this season.

[granite light]

or if their new affixes are going to be useful for me

[twin wolf]

While playing pala that is

[granite light]

i target farmed one this league and got in 2 days

so like 8 hours gametime

annoyin but not insane or anything

but now i wonder if that was 'lucky'

[wraith hazel]

If you need Frotbite Shakles, in SSF HC, thats pain I tell you. And even that will be doable in the end ^^

[granite light]

im too old/bad for hc 😛

i need deaths to learn bossfights lol

[twin wolf]

farming formosus in hc monkaS

[wraith hazel]

Only time I saw 50 corr normal monos ^^

[granite light]

im not a huge fan of orobyss fights as he keeps changing his move set

hes so annoying at higher corrupt

[wraith hazel]

Yeah, he stops me at 1k, wether I play super meta or super meme build

[twin wolf]

Volin buried like half a dozen primalists this season alone xD

[granite light]

ive never gone about 800 corrupt and usually fail around 4 lol

Funniest meme build i had was i went full minion health on skeletons, and first monolith where you have to kill that spire, they werent dying, and the spire wasnt taking damage, so i was stuck in limbo forever. xD had to redraw xD

[brisk fox]

real quick question that I havent been able to find an answer for. Once you get to an appropriate corruption level that you want to farm at, is it better to continuously reset the monolith by killing the boss/shade +cleansing some corruption, or going as far out in the echo web as possible. Similarly, do rewards of gold/exp/amount of items scale based on how far away from the central echo you are?

[granite light]

anyway to be back on topic, lenses only increase chance of prophecy rewards, not drops as a whole, got it.

[gilded lark]

go farther out

also saves you time on the pointless in your situation cycle of increasing and then decreasing corruption

[twin wolf]

yea the farther the better, both for dr and for rewards in general, you get like 7 exp books from far nodes compared to 3 book at start

[granite light]

now to remember the difference between dungeons and cemeteries lol

[brisk fox]

[twin wolf]

furthest shade is juicest allegedly

[brisk fox]

So there's no real reason to ever reset a monolith once its a corruption level you want?

[wraith hazel]

The web is not endless, yeah but if you don't farm Shade loot, not so often

[ancient osprey]

you eventually end up with no monos to run so you have to reset at some point ^^

[twin wolf]

if ur build can handle it go for it

[twin wolf]

nah whole web has like 500-550 echos last time I've put myself to that torture and "explored" lol

you'll eventually have shades in every corner

[brisk fox]

Interesting. Got it. Looking forward to figuring all that out lol. I got build/filter settled so just trying to piece together last bits of things I havent learned yet lol

[granite light]

im tempted to just wing it and respec at this point

xD

eh well, we'll see

[brisk fox]

Coming from other arpgs, that urge never goes away lmao. I've definitely been guilty of swapping to something entirely different within an hour of a league starting

[granite light]

well its also not so punishing to respec

even at lvl 90, lets say you wanted to change all your skills, your class, and all points

you'd still be done under a mil i feel?

[valid bay]

What is best level of corruption to kinda farm 3LP items and get a decent chance for 4LP ?

[granite light]

I mean we're cof what else are we gona spend it on other than more stash tabs lol

[valid bay]

i read somewhere its around 250 - 300

[valid bay]

maybe some gamba later 😄

[twin wolf]

There's never a decent chance at 4LP unless its 0 lpl item

[ancient osprey]

the highest you can do

[granite light]

I mean best is relative to what your build can handle no

[wraith hazel]

There's only a handful of uniques you can reliably farm as 4lp.

But in general, run the highest you can without slowing you down.

Most 3/4lp drop from prophecies anyway

[twin wolf]

best favor/rarity threshold seems to be 1000c, the farther from echo center you go the better it gets, theoretically its double the dr at furthermost nodes

if ur build is comfortable with that gun for 1k I guess, its never comfy until you get insane gear for most of my builds to go above ~600

[wraith hazel]

600 is btw what the top farming people in #👑┃item-showcase often ran

[twin wolf]

I'll be posting there soon agane

[gilded lark]

eventually you'll run out of nodes but otherwise yes

[twin wolf]

did EHG fix the infinite orobyss thingy? or u can still spawn him at the start if current timeline is <50c below ur highest

[granite light]

no idea

well see next season wont we

[valid bay]

I felt like it is taking forever to farm higher corruption, +20 corruption every time i kill that boss is kinda slow ....

[wraith hazel]

If you use Gaze from bosskills (envys to get more of that) and clever use catch up mechanic you rather push in steps of ~50-60.

[twin wolf]

only your highest corruption timeline is kinda slow, the remaining ones get bonus c from distance from center+gaze

[valid bay]

so far in blood frost i have 250 and i feel like its so slow, i want to aim for those boots 3 - 4 LP ( which gives ward )

[wraith hazel]

Lol, 3LP Last Steps are a call!

[twin wolf]

my lowest timeline looks like this #📚┃off-topic rn, boots with above 2LP are generally hard to find regardless of c :)

[wraith hazel]

Nothing you can farm reliably beyond 2lp imo

[wraith hazel]

Slow in terms of pushing corr, or slow in terms of "it takes longer to kill stuff"?

Also have in mind that LPL (legendary potential level) is a thing. For some uniques even a 1LP may be amazing, while for others a 3LP or 4Lp is absolutely doable.

[twin wolf]

in LEtools terms, if your item has 1 in 330 chance to have certain LP upon drop its considered reasonable, below 1 in 200 you can probably farm pretty fast regardless of faction, items bove 500 generally speaking are super rare and that threshold goes into billions (like with Red Ring), which you will probably never see even if you play LE every day until the end of your life

[valid bay]

Slow pushing corr , i can clear pretty fast wih Wraithlord

[granite light]

silly question but i forgot, does rerolling favour count as spending it for progression? xD

[twin wolf]

yes, its like 225 per roll though so dont expect it to help u push higher ranks xD

[valid bay]

So far i have only 1 - 2 Lps most of time ( with bad % of HP to Ward )

[wraith hazel]

If you manage to slam 15% roll 2LP that is the peak you can expect.

3LP is extreeeeemly lucky

[twin wolf]

3LP Steps are 0.027%, even with boots+unique blessings and maxxed CoF it'd probably take like 150-200 kills to see them

[valid bay]

Oh okay 😄 didnt know that

[valid bay]

so i should rather aim for 2 LP and just try to find good boots to combine it with

[twin wolf]

more if ure me xD still cant get 3LP Blood of Exile

[valid bay]

I feel like 3 LP stuff in general is quite rare, or at least for me in 200 corruption

[twin wolf]

we get more tools to work with in 1.2 so hopefully it gets better, farming up 35-40 envys in a single sesh doesnt seem like a stretch, that way you can wrap it up in like one work week xdd

[valid bay]

yep tommorow i plan to farm alot

[warped iris]

I wouldn't expect to be able to play tommorow brother😂

[valid bay]

and is there somewhere a LIST Of uniques which are worth keeping eye on etc? i have alot NO LP Uniques and i dont know which are worth putting into egg

[valid bay]

Im offline player, so i hope 😄

[gilded lark]

then you are doing something wrong, as ppl already suggested above, you should kill the boss a few times and then kill shade with 4 gazes, that should take you idk 2 hours of play at 200 corr to get +60 corruption

perhaps less with optimization and a lot less with using glyphs of envy

also your stability per echo goes up with corruption so you have a lot more access to the boss at higher corruption levels

[valid bay]

hmm issue might be i acidentaly clear it with 1 gaze

like i kill it , farm back and kill it without un-checking the box

[warped iris]

Well the LP masher web exists next patch soo

[valid bay]

LP masher ?

[warped iris]

I'd prob stash any Lp2 in COF next patch

[warped iris]

Yeah I dont remember the name of the woven web but it allows you to put a bunch of LP items into a window and randomise the LP elsewhere lol

Rewatch the patch video brother

Its in there :p

[valid bay]

I will, i kinda did not understand it at first 😄

[warped iris]

Its an interesting one

But very good for CoF

[valid bay]

i thought it would consume unique items to try to increase it on specific one

but guess i read it wrong

[warped iris]

Prettty sure its random

If its specific then its broken lol

[gilded lark]

the box pertains to harbinger, it should have no effect on your corruption at all

[granite light]

i am beginning to wonder if there is any downside at all at staying on legacy as cof

since we should get all content anyway

[gilded lark]

not at this moment

other than lack of a fresh start

[granite light]

yeah but i could start 'fresh' and keep my hard to find items technically

i mean im sure there's gonna be some bugs at first in legacy, theyre changing so much its almost expected

keys, skill trees, woven echoes, gotta see if it falls in smoothly in legacy

[wraith hazel]

It adds gaze to kill the Harby

[gilded lark]

it will be the same bugs in season too so your plan is preemptively countered

[frosty pelican]

it's done

[still scarab]

pog, will check!

[frosty pelican]

On that note, the optimal lens calculator is done, put together the video going on the "best" lenses for use in 1.1 with the updated spreadsheet: https://youtu.be/TJ9hFuA84x8 - Please @ me in here if you see any bugs or issues, ty.

TODO: need to confirm which lenses work with the new weaver idols. That part might not be working yet.

[rugged mauve]

so cof is still terrible to play?

[final stone]

was never terrible

[rugged mauve]

nah you could get 10 hour of grinding worth of CoF gear in 15 min in mg

it was unbalanced

[delicate orchid]

this is ragebaiting right?

[azure ice]

10 hour grind sounds like the perfect Sunday

[rugged mauve]

was trying to ragebait so maybe ppl would list the changes in new season ... 🥀

I never played trade : p

[gilded lark]

they improved the auction ui so now that's 10 minutes

a bit more fixes to search and it will be down to 5

great patches balance comrade

[delicate orchid]

this is the worst way to have a discussion...

[void heath]

the twitter way^^

[rugged mauve]

well its actually the best, chat died after ragebait is discovered as you see

[quasi lance]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[azure ice]

There aren’t really any just some tweaks to lenses and Julra tier 2+ grants 100% slam chance option

[junior pewter]

I never once played Trade guild, is CoF just objectively worse than Trade?
I don't really want to set my LootFilter to pick up meta slavery & have to manage the drops

[sweet parrot]

I mean, the optimal way to play MG is to farm currency and buy your stuff, instead of playing the game and getting your own stuff. It's a different experience. Not better or worse

Until there is a gold dupe and the economy crashes, then MG is worse

[twin wolf]

You still gotta drop stuff to sell it xD

[rancid arrow]

anything new for CoF this season? havnt been able to keep up

[twin wolf]

there's a bunch of good stuff :) better start catching up

[junior pewter]

I alyways play trade league in PoE but here for some reason I always play CoF which is strange to me.

[gilded lark]

nerfs

[digital orbit]

I went circle the very first build I played and it wad a bit frustrating and I felt like I'd have a lot of useless prophecies. Would it be more worth running this league? It was kinda fun to shop in merchants guild but people selling everything for 0 gold is also a bit unfun

I also really disliked having to go do act bosses or arenas (somehow arena boss higher dps than Lagon beam)

[sweet parrot]

They buffed all the lenses except greed and rhyme

[sweet parrot]

The weaver tree has a node to remove arenas from monos

[digital orbit]

meaning?

[digital orbit]

mhm i did see that

tho i dont think u can remove them from prophecies

could be mistaken tho its been a bit

[steady kayak]

i dont think its strange, POE you don't have any choice... you either trade or you suck. CoF here lets you play the game at least

[sweet parrot]

All of the lenses that you use to modify prophecies got their effects increased by minimum 5%. The weapons lenses got their effectiveness doubled from. 20% to 40%. My point is that it wasn't all nerfs.

Except greed and rhyme lenses, and they're still good

[digital orbit]

whats the main struf you usually do? just your weapon types and then amulet/ring etc?

[steady kayak]

i look at my build and spam the ones i want

[red helm]

Beacon encounters give 90% less XP on repeat attempts in echoes - when did they added that

means beacon strat is dead ; (

[twin wolf]

😆 now they just need to nerf the storymode and tome abusing

[gilded lark]

always could

[gilded lark]

when they saw frozen sentinel on youtube

but tbh this had been known since cbt of 1.0

they just didn't give a shit

[red helm]

used it myself, but yeah

dumb tactic, good it was rid off

[gilded lark]

yea the play pattern was fairly cancerous

just another monday for most arpg players though

[stone folio]

COF looking strong this season? woven stuff looks good for us

[gilded lark]

its less that it looks strong and more that it looks less weak

some of the glaring issues are getting fixed like missing 1 lp slams early on

[lament sand]

depends on your goals

trying to get BiS gear? MG. Want to get ok gear and not super unique reliant? CoF

also MG naturally falls off after a month or so when the playerbase shrinks

[steady kayak]

ive never found getting uniques hard in CoF, unless you want something ridiculous

[lament sand]

well getting uniques is fine, its the 2-3lp ones

some builds really rely on that

[steady kayak]

builds dont rely on 2-3 lp uniques, anyone who tells you that is high

but yeah if you want to rely on 1 in 1000+ odds items then you are gonna have a rough time unless you are an absolute mg grinder with insane playtime and money

[modest axle]

I have found that COF works best for the casual player like myself. You would think MG would be better for the casual player, but the reason COF is better is because you don't need to race against the clock to make sure you are able to race against the economy and buy items for decent prices. When I played MG before, the BIS items were unattainable in price because my play style was so casual. I never care about being the top 5% in player power, So yea, COF for the Win. 🙂

[stone folio]

id be dammed if i cant progress due to not getting a 2-3 LP unique

sometimes i wish i went MG but then again i dont idk

sometimes you get unlucky

[gritty creek]

What’s the best way to farm favor

[steady kayak]

playing the game and killing enemies

[stone folio]

kinda wonder too you prob get tons as you push corruption

i see the sweaty guys gets thousands of them effortlessly tho

[steady kayak]

the exploit farm method has been removed in the patch

[stone folio]

oh rip

[steady kayak]

they were exploiting the game with beacon echoes and restarting

[modest axle]

that's why this new league will be better for COF due to the changes.

[stone folio]

yeah i agree was going go MG but i change my mind COF on top baby

[neat crater]

Always prio xp tome monos

[mental marsh]

There are builds that perform non linearly relative to investment. As in every game. Some builds are only good when fully invested. Some are good at low investment. Just like in every other ARPG

[rich remnant]

Do we know the new optimal lens setups after nerf in the upcoming patch?

[wooden shuttle]

check frozen sentinels youtube

[azure ice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ9hFuA84x8&t

go subscribe to the goat

[rich remnant]

right, my bad, should've gone straight to Frozen's youtube

[rich remnant]

looks like 2x uses + uniq + ring lenses is the most cost efficient combo for me if I wanna just target rings

[stone folio]

brother even has a dam spreadsheet what a goat

[wooden shuttle]

do you all think weaver tree imprinting stacks with the CoF rank benefits (like enemies have 35% chance to drop twice the amount of items, affixes 50% more likely to be exalted), so you just keep imprinting>get better drop>imprint>get better drop>imprint?

i assume thats how ehg wanted to make it work no?

gets even crazier with the warlords riches node where champions can seal an affix

[molten oar]

I mean kind of? But as far as I know mod tiers don't matter for the imprints. If you have an exalted with only mods you want you're basically set, even if it's 1 t6 3 t1s.

The effects are more likely to be same base type, more likely to be same rarity, and if the item has regular (droppable) mods then more likely to roll those mods

[brisk fox]

Quick heads up but prob already known for anyone setting up a loot filter. Champion affix items will get hidden if you hide all/hide rares and than dont make a specific rule to show them . Found this out after spending an hour or so retooling Frozen's ( 🙏 ty for the awesome video) template for rogue.

[ancient osprey]

Completely forgot about those, cheers !

[granite light]

are champion afixes added as a specific one yet like exile mage ones?

[past karma]

By the way, I remembered back then that you were supposed to spam rare item prophecies over exalted one due to the 25% conversion

is it still the case, or did the cost got normalized?

[granite light]

i dont think the changed cof progression anyway

just some new prophecies

[terse shard]

Oh do you have early access?

[granite light]

aight zero just confirmed well have a specific setting for champion affixes

problem solved 😄

[brisk fox]

lastepochtools

:D

It has them built in already. Theyre called "Personal" in the affix list

[terse shard]

Nice

[brisk fox]

yeah sorry I should have clarified what to specify in the rule to make them show

[terse shard]

No worries. You're going for the arena then in weavers tree?

[brisk fox]

Nopers :D, but I am taking the nodes that make them have a higher chance to spawn in echoes generically

There's a few of them that are just generically good and useful on their own as a starting point for a progression item even if they arent paired with an exalted affix.

[terse shard]

Hm I really need to study up on them

[brisk fox]

good news is the list is relatively short so, can glance through them rather rapidly and find the ones thatll work for w/e build

[terse shard]

Ohh I see

I hope ehg expands on them tho

Since champs are supposed to be your hardest normal enemies

[brisk fox]

its another great system for them to develop as the the game goes forward for sure

imo it adds a really useful tuning knob since they compete for space with uniques

[terse shard]

Just checked, and oh wow those are reallllly short 🤣

[brisk fox]

yeah. one thing I'm not sure of is they're base type specific in anyway.

[terse shard]

Well some of them are supergood (+max companions wow). Others not so much. But they are sealed anyway, so I guess we shouldn't complain on getting free stuff

[brisk fox]

yeaaah. My assumption is they are at least item type specific, but not base type. The example they gave in the patch notes stated that a "Volcanic" champion will always drop a belt with that "Volcanic" modifier sealed on it

[dark raft]

Is there any AIO guide about how to make a CoF filter for self use?

[ancient osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOFrWbHXcCc

[umbral saffron]

So just about this following change in 1.2:

• Added several new prophecies for killing Nemeses and Champions.
  Do we know what kind of prophecies will there be? Like... "when you kill 5 Nemeses you'll get X amount of <items>" or something like "the next X Nemeses will have an additional egg chamber"? I guess we dont know yet and it'll be the first option?

[still scarab]

its just kill nemesis/champions anywhere and others in specific corruptions, frozensentinel spreadsheets has every detail

tunklab too

[rose hull]

You can access the spreadsheet mentioned by Zeloxt in the description of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_32CYU-Jbg

[umbral saffron]

Yeah thanks, I was just hoping for something new than just the generic "go, kill that, then you get random loot" 😄

[granite light]

Nice and calm at the COF. May your prophecies pop early. xD

[rose orchid]

Guys how does primalist been looking this league ?

[granite light]

not cof related, but fine? every class is viable if you build em right lol

[undone quarry]

let me in porra

[past karma]

Let's pretend I want to hold on favour until the point spending it all brings me to rank 12. At which point can I start spending

I remember there is a specific point about that

[elfin nymph]

hmmm any tipps on starting char for COF?

just play what i feel like or is there a good one for starting out which doesnt need anything to run through it all to farm upp?

[dark raft]

just use every fame you have early game i believe

to get more gear

[rose orchid]

Kk yeah sorry I just didn’t find a more general chat channel and since I’m going circle of fortune i tought of asking here

[elfin nymph]

same here 😄

cant decide on what to pplay 😄

[granite light]

Thank god most main people don't click here. xD

for my offline cof mains, true offline is fully live and running 🙂

Where was the new key trader again?

[dark raft]

Maj’elka Upper District

[azure ice]

Brace yourselves the teleport to COF faction posts are coming (even with the new patch change)

[proven robin]

Do I need to be Solo Account Found or Solo Character Found to get more loot from CoF?

[granite light]

nah, its just the faction, you dont need either for that

just pick COF in act 9

does mean you cant trade with players ofc

[proven robin]

Thanks!

[granite light]

solo character found means no trading between your own characters.

[granite light]

these new champ suffixes are awesome, i got a +1 companion sealed ^^ will do till artors lol

I hope i can spam one sword prophecies later on till naals drops xD

[quasi shell]

Can someone give tp to COF pls? ign Soseeker

[winged jay]

Also looking for Taxi (InvictusTitanRex)

[granite light]

-.-

[static knot]

Can anyone please ferry me to act 9 for CoF? IGN No_Mercy_Reaper

[lofty gale]

anyone maybe able to give portal to majelka

[blazing rapids]

can someone give me a tp to the oberservatory? would be greatly appreciated!! IGN: GhostbloodJudgement

[lusty marsh]

LF Portal to Observatory IGN: UKRARZYNEK

[granite light]

i remember when this was about lens strategy, not all the new players looking to skip story content.. xD

[lusty marsh]

I mean there is a bug because all players should be able to choose fraction in first town

[blazing rapids]

i mean im not new i just have all my passives and idol slots by beginning of chapter 7 i was just wanting to skip 8 and 9 to get the faction to save time

[lusty marsh]

same

[twin edge]

LF Taxi to observatory. IGN: Remdog

[unkempt tartan]

Only when is ur 2nd chacarter of the season

Not bug

I mean, u need to have it unlocked in other character to be able to choose in first town

[viral stirrup]

LF Taxi to observatory. IGN:HeartPiercing

[lusty marsh]

ah, okey

[last bloom]

LF taxi to observatory pretty please, IGN: Wayzer66

[quasi shell]

LF Taxi to observatory. IGN:soseeker

[midnight harness]

LF Taxi to observatory, would be very thankful! IGN: Voidskov

[twin edge]

LF Taxi to observatory. IGN: Remdog

[brittle trench]

LF Taxi to Observatory. IGN: Acowich

[stone folio]

Dang everyone want a taxi

Sign me up

[viral stirrup]

LF Taxi to observatory. IGN:HeartPiercing

[solemn cloud]

Look at all these lazy mfers

[stone folio]

I thought you could skip up to chapter 9 if u did temporal dungeon

Saw a YouTuber did it

[unborn timber]

LF taxi to observatory IGN: TigerWoods

[viral stirrup]

LF Taxi to observatory. IGN:HeartPiercing

[twin edge]

Has anyone successfully gotten a taxi

[tulip flume]

nah dont bother

[stone folio]

Nope just grind it yourself you will get there

[tall cliff]

What lenses are worth using?

Should i prioritize some over another? my build is just a fire crit mage type thing

[golden kernel]

LF Taxi to observatory IGN: SenorF1re

[crystal basin]

lf taxi to cof ign Gewch

[inner moon]

Lf taxi to cof ign buckfrandon

[severe needle]

Lf taxi to cof ign atomictrippy

[twin edge]

LF Taxi to CoF. IGN: Remdog

[royal socket]

do Legacy characters miss out on anything apart from MG?

[primal crystal]

Is CoF good for leveling/first character ? Or merchant will be easier to find uniques (not talking about optimal endgame items)

[regal mauve]

Hello can anyone tp me to COF please ign sukunakingofcurses

[violet willow]

someone help tp me to COF as well please LrdFardwad

[viral stirrup]

LF Taxi Observatory HC IGN:HeartPiercing

[ivory steppe]

LF Taxi to CoF SC IGN:SpreadingHotStuff

[upbeat carbon]

LF Taxi IGN: SN8W

[inland moon]

Depends if you need a required unique in your build early on.. both are good clearly

[red helm]

It’s not even 24 hours lol

Already taxi

[shadow dragon]

People are lazy it seems

[red helm]

Guys you can do story in 3-4 hours

[ashen axle]

LF Taxi IGN: CashewGun

[somber cairn]

Lf taxi COF Loightningbogus

[lime breach]

LF taxi CoF - IGN: Kangaruthless

[shadow dragon]

What even are the differences between the constellations?

[turbid ice]

LF taxi COF - IGN: Erased_Nachos . will pay if forward.

[sly birch]

I think ppl just dont like the idea of goin thru the story without the buffs to drops

[sly birch]

Tyoes of items dropping

[rare willow]

When i can ask for the taxi cof? After some act or unlocking some dungeon?

[shadow dragon]

Thats kinda stupid imo

Its just like 3 chapters from where you can start monos

[sly birch]

In a game that is about min maxxing, can't really blame ppl for min maxxing, even if it is pretty useless

[shadow dragon]

I guess. whatever lol

[coarse steppe]

LF Taxi CoF IGN: FURIOUS_PENGUIN

[gleaming mirage]

What even do you get for having it for the campaign

I always though the like 100 favor you get on picking the faction was all accumulated exp throughout the campaign because funny exponentials

[woven venture]

anyone help me out w/ a taxi to COF? still no luck finding a sanctum key in monos >.<

[rich remnant]

For people wondering about Havoc runes drops, they drop quite nice in empowered monos from weaver mobs

Also, lizard nodes feel kinda bad
Yes they drop lots of shit
But you get runes/glyphs/affix shards anyway in CoF
Uniques - too random
Piles of exalted - with CoF rank 11 seems quite insignificant
Totems - yeah, but again, too untargeted

Even when you proc shrine with 6+ lizards, it's barely anything interesting

So probably will switch out, was nice while in non-empoweted, but late game feels like a waste of tree passives

[viral stirrup]

Anyone would be so kind and give me the tp to observatory? :C IGN:HeartPiercing

[full meadow]

Does anything special need to be done to taxi someone? I just stand in observatory or whatever and invite them? I'm not on now, just curious when people ask

[woven venture]

Yea, you just stand in obs, invite them and then they click the little blue teleport to player icon on your party frame.

[valid bay]

What can i do with multiple 1 or NO LP uniques which i feel like have no use ?

just sell ?

[woven venture]

nemesis eventually adds a mechanic where you can put them in for another item and add LP to them by empowering him up and then killing him

[valid bay]

but what if i have just 1 LP item i feel like is useless ?

[woven venture]

then yea, do w/e with it lol

[past karma]

1LP goes into the new weaver mechanic where it either get 2LP or go 0 LP

[valid bay]

Whats the name of place i cna do it ?

since i am doing weavers for few hours and did not see ityet

[steady kayak]

its the turtle one i think?

[normal horizon]

can someone taxi me to CoF?

[feral tide]

Cof better than mg this season?

[ashen axle]

can i get a COF taxi pls (e: leaving this post up = still need one, hmu!)

IGN: CashewGun

[maiden sky]

I think I’ll do COF this season!

What’s a COF taxi ?

[sick plume]

can anyone help me tp to CoF please thansk! ign: criticalghost

[granite light]

People are too lazy to level an extra hour appearantly.

[red cloud]

Looking for a COF tp if any ! > Irgnar

[woven bison]

reminds me of asking for a portal to teth back in asheron's call days

[stone folio]

The dam keys won’t drop so ppl wanna get there quicker

[red cloud]

I'll be at CoF for a few minutes, Irgnar, EU-West

[crimson jay]

Can someone send a picture of the all the CoF rank bonuses pls

[red cloud]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/resources/circle-of-fortune-overview

[crimson jay]

Oh the maxroll one i saw was outdated

Ty

[visual mirage]

Can someone pls add to party so I can tp to observatory ? Tag - Xisz

[rugged mauve]

so favours are really expensive to get rn, does it cahnge at late game?

[visual mirage]

Should I go cof or mg if I’ll only be playing one character?

[thorny veldt]

Is anyone around that can taxi me. Because as someone said earlier I'm too lazy to run through act 8

[valid bay]

What uniques are best to try to reroll ?

in general 1 LP ones?

[visual mirage]

Your tag ?

[thorny veldt]

Frostbite127

[ivory steppe]

for tag is it your character name, or account name?

[visual mirage]

Press ‘h’ u will see your tag

[ivory steppe]

LF taxi (League SC) to CoF IGN: Cantspel

[waxen heath]

anyone willing to give me a waypoint to CoF?

[steady fossil]

no

[lapis gazelle]

Is there a video breaking down CoF vs MG? Played the first season as CoF I'm pretty sure but I can't recall if it was worth it or not.. I'm used to trading in the context of PoE so.

[ivory steppe]

Generally MG is faster for gearing early mono, and easier late mono to get ideal gear. CoF is more fun typically with "mini quests" and massive loot drops. If you are a Min/maxer then you probably want MG. If you want to take your time and enjoy the loot explosions, then CoF is for you.

[still scarab]

Nice, thanks for the info, anything more you tested?

[hasty tinsel]

Anyone on HC feeling generous to inv me and port me to the trader's town to select my faction

[normal horizon]

I am at FoC, can taxi nick: Ultraviolence

[hasty tinsel]

WTB HC Taxi: Chek_SpunIt

[granite light]

They should really add a no asking for taxis rule in this channel, it's getting silly.

[bold cosmos]

can you get wrong warp trough the prophecies?

[viscid star]

Anyone got a weaver tree for CoF? 😄

[granite pine]

Is Favor coming from XP you win, number of kills, just a fixed amount for every X thing you do?

and reputation too

[night whale]

Did anyone has a good Heartseeker Loot filter ? pn me

[normal horizon]

add me - ultraviolence

[viscid star]

what for?

[hasty tinsel]

I'm actually shocked people aren't more helpful.

[normal horizon]

yeah I am pretty shocked too that people are having such problems, like come on dude, not everybody wants to go through the campaign for the 100th time, or does not have that much time like players playing all days

and it's just one click

[hollow tartan]

Does COF help in target farming like rare uniques? Is it able to, I've always been merchant so idrk

[hollow forge]

very much so

thats the entire point

[snow cypress]

for cof you get a rank reward that doubles the drops you get from prophecies and then theres another item you can get that will multiply the amount of drops you get but makes the prophecies more expensive i like that one when im farming later on you can get like 15 items off one prophecy or more

[hollow forge]

i think he was wondering about the phophecy system itself

but yes you target specific gear slots

and then can target rarity of said gear slot

so late game you will drop 10+ legendary rings from 1 boss for example

[snow cypress]

oh ok i thought he had a basic understanding already i gave too much info XD

[rich remnant]

not a lot, trying to make my build die less often so I can finally move to corruption higher than 100
reroll turtle gave me two 3lp Kestrel, so it looks like getting 4 lp common items is kinda possible
gold drops are really nice due to possesion
exp tomes node is cool since it can trigger on some things inside maps
nemesis - there's woven echo which has something like 4 or more nemesises, so nodes on tree seems not quite needed unless you really want some sealed exalted affixes

rn going to test exiled mages nodes, I think mages spawn more often now due to guardians + mages objectives, so wanna see what you can get from that

[shadow dragon]

Are all drop you get flagged as circle of fortune when you join the faction ingame? Or is it only the drop you get from prophecies?

[hollow forge]

all i think

"Cannot be traded" on everything

[rich remnant]

not all, but all that you get from CoF bonuses
like you still get non-flagged items sometimes
for example, when you kill timeline boss and it drops 2 RoW coz of rank 10, first one might not get flagged

[hybrid ice]

Any good tips for COF?

[lost hollow]

Youtube has all the answers

That's certainly irrelevant word vomit. There is plenty of CoF data on youtube, from before season 2 that hasn't changed, and from season 2 + weavers interactions.

Or you could just play the game

[pearl void]

could someone let me tp to them to the majelk district please

[tall cliff]

Is there any use for items with legendary affixes if the affix itself is just awful? do I just throw them on the ground if I don't need it

like i have a putrid ring wth 24% void res becuase it missed the LP from nemesis egg, do i just leave it on the floor if i'm not using it?

[severe needle]

Lf taxi to cof ign atomictrippy

[idle relic]

could anyone tp me to observatory? for COF

[hollow forge]

why do people ask for port to faction HQ?

[tulip flume]

can someone be kind and tp me to cof?

[jade cloud]

do we have a blessing tier list ?

[hollow forge]

why

[calm eagle]

so do the amulet prophecies always drop the same one?

[hollow forge]

random amulet

[calm eagle]

bug?

[hollow forge]

huh?

[normal horizon]

PM me - ultraviolence

[calm eagle]

got the same amulet x3 multiple times

[hollow forge]

maybe its a common one

[calm eagle]

the last one was a seashell or something

[stable hamlet]

Can cof prophecies drop things like nihilis or other boss items?

[hollow forge]

boss specific items no

[rich remnant]

Man it sucks to get red ring, even get lp1 on it, and not being able to do t4 dungeon to make a slam :(
On the bright side, imprints on wtree make it lowkey trivial to get lp4 kestrel

[gritty creek]

so they can skip the campaign to join a faction

[hollow forge]

oh i didnt know that worked

so they can start earning favor from lvl1?

[gritty creek]

im not sure from lvl 1 but you can skip a good portion by getting someone to tp you there. your alts will have the faction unlocked at start just need it the first time at the start of a new seaosn

[sly birch]

OH SHOOT

im almost done with harbingers and forgot prophecies exist

[gritty creek]

well you must have a lot of favor then

[urban fog]

This sounds more interesting to me than Merchants guild but im worried about the idea of wanting a specific item and not being able to get it. Do these prophecies ive read about allow you to target farm?

[stone folio]

how good is the woven imprint? havent seen ppl talk about it

[sly birch]

yes

[coarse adder]

Drops like crazy. Already dropped 3lp uniques from it. If you can imprint the same item as often as possible. Drops go vrooom.

So for Talons of Valor it went crazy today. Many 3lp to roll. Now imprinted omnis+2x razorfall and will see how that goes tmr

[stone folio]

dammmm say no more

[kind shard]

i assume you mean you imprint the unique and it combo with unique prophecy?

[coarse adder]

Nah I had imprinted valor twice and it dropped like mad even without extra prophecies.

[kind shard]

i see

thats good to know

[runic heath]

do you have to imprint unique to get unique?

or?

[kind shard]

i wonder what woven echo to imprint hmm

i guess you just wanna imprint the rare one

[coarse adder]

Yes you get the unique u imprint.

[kind shard]

i quite like the nemesis echo

seems like a good way to just high roll for good exalted rare

[coarse adder]

I imprinted valor in 2 slots then got other prophecies like unique boots etc

Can get good stack of uniques fast

[runic heath]

but you get THAT specific unique?

[coarse adder]

Yes I have 2 full tabs of 2lp+ talons already

[runic heath]

ok thanks

[coarse adder]

I thought it was generic unique bow. But no if the pile procs you get like 6 same items

[runic heath]

lmfao

time to print reowyns fortress until I get 4lp idc

[coarse adder]

I think rarer unique will be harder but the plans probably will be to imprint red ring/nihilis etc once u got the first

[modest axle]

I'm loving COF so far. I noticed this game is getting crapped on in comments by poe 2 players seeing this alot in comments under videos saying that the game is too boring and easy. 😦

[runic heath]

same players got mogged by act 1 and 2 bosses in poe2 ignore them

[outer steppe]

hi, i am in chapter 9, but i was wondering if i unlock the factions with just the main storyline or if its with a secondary?

[runic heath]

once you reach divine era MajElka

you can join the circus of fortune

[outer steppe]

it isn't locked behind a quest? because i have been following the msq but i havent seen anything that could bring the factions

nvm found it

[gritty creek]

its a side quest

[grim pelican]

if I put two of the same lenses they are gonna to stack together?

[rich remnant]

Depends on leans, but if you mean rarity/item type etc, then yes
To find the optimal combo use Frozens's table, for example for objectives I'm doing for rings the most optimal combo was uniq/ring/2x uses

[grim pelican]

what is frozen s table?