#⭕┃circle-of-fortune

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slim veldt
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anyone got a really good COF loot filter?

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the torment one?

broken venture
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Minion Necro can start going into monos at mid20s to early 30's and that's with nothing. You might be squishy as hell but you can build a literal army. I've got a half baked self made build that has 20 or so permanent minions that can easily tear through things vastly above my own level.

nocturne kernel
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is it just me or is the egg giving everyone better lp stuff than prophecys?

foggy trench
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Shoutout da egg

old coral
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Anyone have an issue with buying a prophecy and the wrong one shows up in your inventory?

brisk depot
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is there a good guide for what lenses i should be getting?

teal path
gray ermine
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@frosty pelican @limber minnow Made some more optimizations and pulled 220k in my next 1 hour test run @598c (444% XP Imp Warcamp Info Echo), will upload VOD later... For my build I think MAXIMUM mobility/map traversal is ideal and that there's no real limit... Ther are a couple reasons for this, but the most pertient I think is that it acts as an additional insurance policy against bad spawns.

Being able to turbo rush the beacon while still clearing entire screen (lack of rares) on bad spawns is going to allow you to squeeze out every ounce of favor possible.

Also, it seems I was correct about Nem frequency scaling with corruption, base spawn rate also being increased... IT'S GONNA BE A FUN ONE! Probably want to secure a Solarum Ascent info node at 1.5-2kish (depends) on Fall of the Outcasts, Spirits, etc.

magic forge
kind saffron
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anyone want to give me a port to observatory?

hidden temple
gray ermine
gray ermine
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It's just really strong in general early if u want to be running a bunch of uniques and lack suffixes to fix stats properly, easy 1-2lp as well

hidden temple
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alright thnx

limber minnow
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Nicesu

frosty pelican
vivid ore
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i don't see any mention of rank 10/12 fix for cof in patch notes

main merlin
arctic seal
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the beacon, it's guaranteed you won't get bad events like ambush

main merlin
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Oh, so it's "info" because it gives you info about the web

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Oh, so you're farming beacons without finishing them on a linear map with stacked exp boosts?

gray ermine
arctic seal
gray ermine
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Solarum will be better for spamming Nemesis + Mages this cycle I think... Smallest layout means easiest/fastest way to pop Nemesis notification

main merlin
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I know what I'm trying today lol. For some reason I figured that this is the best way for leveling, but didn't make the connection that this also works for favour lol

gray ermine
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I will try to setup a Solrum info echo on a higher corr timeline (probably 1.5-2k, frequency scales with corr and rarity too afaik)

gray ermine
arctic seal
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what makes imperial warcamp faster? i have been farming ritual lake

gray ermine
arctic seal
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so you just run on the right side then tp out?

gray ermine
arctic seal
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i see

gray ermine
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Also you don't need to stand in the circle and I avoid it so I don't accidentally complete

gray ermine
# arctic seal i see

Video is processing I'll tag u when it's done if u want to see how I clear it... I also have another VOD uploaded, but didn't have it as optimized

hazy pike
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I didn’t see any mention of the COF drop bug fixes for 10 not working on dungeon bosses and 12 on refracting lens of wealth; are these still bugged?

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Maybe week 3 it’ll be fixed…

arctic seal
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there are still 3 more workdays in the week, surely...

clever hare
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can anyone taxi me to COF?

finite trellis
gray ermine
finite trellis
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I only got started with cycle today, lf to some optimized farmin

cinder bear
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Any1 here around 1k corruption that could hook me up with a good CoF -friendly build?

solemn flower
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Can you start with CoF from level one when someone taxis you, even if you don't have a character at that point in the campaign? Or do you need the main quest until that point on your main

left gale
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does the exp bonus blessing also scale favor gained for cof?

shrewd falcon
stoic trench
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So I am guessing we don't use the double rewards lens anymore since it is not affected by rank 12.

modern iris
stoic trench
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well it works with the lens that doubles the profficies

worn delta
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This The Enigma prophecy seems bugged, not proccing off any echo boss

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What does Deaths of boss count as? Just the timeline boss at the end then? None of the end of echo enemies with the big HP bars?

hazy elm
livid spruce
worn delta
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But they counted towards a different "boss" prophecy I had before

fresh pivot
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Nobody crying in this faction ^^ again thinking about going cof

livid spruce
mystic goblet
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the server still in maintance?

desert escarp
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Hi just saw this channel! I’m new and just unlocked this faction . What lenses did you guys first buy when you started?

eager nebula
desert escarp
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Hmm good point. I haven’t even found a dungeon key yet 😦 . How do you unlock arenas? I just killed apophis and it looks like I skipped arenas? Idk

outer nacelle
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arenas are keys also.

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arena prophs are generally bad and no one takes them. arena in general no one really likes unless they are doing a leaderboard push

desert escarp
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Oof yea I prob don’t want those that need keys

outer nacelle
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you can use those blockers when you first start cof, when you get to rank 7/8 there are better ones to take

desert escarp
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Like what?

outer nacelle
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you'll see when you get there. it's more value for your favor lenses

random copper
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can someone give me a majelka waypoint?

rough pendant
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classic complaint : why do the One handed and two handed Axe icons look exactly the same ?

outer nacelle
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i hate that the armor icon and body armor icon are the same.

slim veldt
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Day2 of asking if anyone has created a good end game loot filter template for cof 🙂

slim veldt
desert escarp
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quick question do u know by any chance why this says "contains incomplete path"? how do i compelte the path?

i did this timeline to the very end until i cant branch out anymore

"altar of flesh" quest line from Fall of Outcasts

slim veldt
desert escarp
slim veldt
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It also stored the values you roll so if you get a max rolled blessing you can switch to it at any time

desert escarp
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the 15% unique drop rate rolled its max range though. I am CoF yes.

slim veldt
desert escarp
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Ooh you are big brain sir! i wouldve gone 15% unique otherwise!

ember spear
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Hey guys I have heard on twitch that t10 cof is bugged on dungeon bosses. Is that true?

livid spruce
ember spear
neat panther
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What would be a good way to search for a sword with melee cold damage X, spell damage X. and cold damage X% affix's?
I would be using it on a legendary Yrun penance sword to level of a sorcerer character till I get the lightning gear he needs

marsh quest
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Anyone mind letting me tp to CoF? I didnt collect it last time i guess.

crimson obsidian
serene jackal
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Anyone have a good lens tier list/setup to go off of? no idea what to use

arctic seal
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double uses + double rewards + wild card

proud siren
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How's the CoF changes this cycle? Substantially better?

arctic seal
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i think it's good for casuals like me who dont push to degenerate corruption

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i'm at 1k and cof has been a blessing for me

desert escarp
arctic seal
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yes i do, just refresh for what i want then pay a chunk of favor

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it's pricey but effective

slim veldt
slim veldt
night maple
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yeah can confirm cof bugged at higher ends

crimson obsidian
fickle frigate
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CoF is the best thing that could happen to SSF players

near peak
charred anvil
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Any advice on transitioning from MG to CoF at lvl 80? Part of my gear is built with MG items and I expect a downgrade on my stats. but I prefer that over starting over (I don't have enough patience for another campaign)

outer nacelle
arctic seal
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the meta sorc glacier/static orb

tiny sluice
arctic seal
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yeah

pallid urchin
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Where do you guys go to complete your siege golem prophecies?

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did some monos in fall of the outcast, no golems yet..

tiny sluice
arctic oxide
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Can we make COF merchant currency gold, please? I got like 1mln and don't know what to do with it

tiny sluice
pallid urchin
tiny sluice
fickle frigate
arctic oxide
pallid urchin
tame sundial
prime slate
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im sure this is the first time ever this question has been asking in this channel, but whats the best way to make gold in cof? lol

spring mulch
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Hello guys, is that worth it to take prophecy who cost 59.000 for ringx2 ( 1 legendary potential )

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it look like realy expensive for what it is

lucid pawn
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Spent all last cycle trying to get a 2lp wheel of torment and got max 1 with bad rolls. As MG this cycle i got a +3 wheel with 79% necro pen and 2lp for 200,000 gold. Lool

arctic seal
spring mulch
hollow pagoda
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Guys, is lvl 12 of COF bugged? Im not getting double rewards

worn delta
hollow pagoda
drowsy rock
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Do Prophecies drop boss specific uniques such as Red Ring, Mad Alchemist's Laddle (Exile Mage), and Stormcarved Testament (Lagon)?

arctic seal
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Red ring is not boss specific
Mad Alchemist's laddle is supposed to be boosted, but currently bugged
Lagon's relic is boosted

drowsy rock
muted token
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Does COF rank 8 double the chance to get ANY LP? I.e. if the chance to get 2LP on an item is 7.5%, is that now doubled? Or is it maybe just "lucky" (roll twice, take the "better" roll)

azure ice
rigid widget
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is there a list anywhere of the best idol combos?

frosty pelican
ebon thistle
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I am looking for a port to observatory, any kind soul out there please?

azure ice
frigid jungle
frosty pelican
left gale
patent delta
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I'm so jealous of CoF players and I have such regrets choosing MG this cycle 😂

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I remember simpler times when I too played CoF

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I realize that, probably, technically, even in MG's sorry state it's probably still a more efficient way to gear, but with CoF, you experience hope...lots of hope, drops that instantly release dopamine when they hit the map. Right now....MG is like....the death of hope.

copper valley
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you can reroll to CoF

patent delta
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I could, but I can't bring myself to...I have enough invested in MG that the transactions costs feel bad...giving up my MG gear and not having faction progress transfer...it just...feelsbadman

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So the hope I have left is that EHG will fix the MG economy so I can enjoy it again

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I am not smart

copper valley
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rn there is no way they will be able to fix it is too far gone

patent delta
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There are ways, but I don't think they have the will or confidence to do what must be done

copper valley
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rollback is out of option, money is transfered to players i don't see an options

copper valley
patent delta
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I can only say what I would do if I was in charge of regulating the market in LE. I would have a policy of extreme aggression against hyperinflation, which in practice woud look like a "do what it takes" approach even if it f'ed over a sizable number of players for the greater good. In this case, you could do something that's not a full roll back (too much time has gone by for that), but a brute force temporary gold cap that, yes, would affect the top 1% of players dramatically, possibly wiping 80% of their wealth or more instantly and it would feel really really bad to them, but would also remove excess from the money supply. My sense is the benefit is worth the cost. This status quo is unsustainable, both in the short term and the message it sends the market for cycles going forward. The incentive to not play MG is high going forward given their orientation to the market...if you're a rational actor.

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so if they want MG to be a viable game mode, they need a socialized playbook that reduces uncertainty. Otherwise....this game mode for them is going to die. They could learn a lot from what PoE has done and how they've learned from their early mistakes.

patent delta
copper valley
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if dupe was like a few hours in i could understood but it was like a week, even if they do rollback 80% of people are waiting for 28'th to switch to poe LE was in theory singleplayer withour trade but people asked for it so they are "maybe" not prepared

copper valley
patent delta
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it behooves them to get the market part right imo, but they did bite off more than they can chew....right move might have been...let 3rd parties handle it just like most everyone else.

copper valley
copper valley
copper valley
patent delta
copper valley
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in general

copper valley
hazy elm
# copper valley in general

we know its not true cause there are people that i know with hundreds of millions of gold still, there is 0.001% chance its all legit gold but who knows, also rmt websites stocks still full so doesnt sound like its all deleted

copper valley
hazy elm
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i know i saw that msg, either it was poorly worded or they meant smth elese

slender saffron
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hi guys. can same lens stack effect?

gray panther
hazy elm
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LE has tools against inflation its just they are useless against bots that abuse exploit

gray panther
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i mean thats fair, just pointing out that GGG doesn't interact directly with their player-driven market either

patent delta
gray panther
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then i dont understand your point of "They could learn a lot from what PoE has done and how they've learned from their early mistakes."? You're saying their shouldn't be a in-game market?

patent delta
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I think that is one place in which they bit off more than they can chew, yes

minor crown
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is rank 10 and 12 still bricked?

gray panther
patent delta
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The smartest thing PoE ever did was not have a singular ubiquitous in-game currency

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because it allows them to not really have to regulate things as much....let alone set up an entire bespoke faction mode for trading

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they outsourced all of that to third parties and the economy thrives almost every league

gray panther
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technically they dont but in practice they do. exalted/divines (and to lesser extent chaos) are just gold in bigger chunks

patent delta
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that "technically" part is not nothing

gray panther
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no but there have been leagues where divines were way easier to farm and the prices of chase uniques skyrocketed

patent delta
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it provides organic optionality, if one consumable becomes unreliable as a store of value, the community can organically swap to something else

gray panther
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that doesn't actually happen in practice. no one suddenly switches away from divines if they get too expensive

patent delta
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it absolutely would happen in practice if, for example, things weren't just easier to farm, but there was a dupe bug that allowed folks to just make an infinite number of them. 100% there would be a currency swap because market transactions would become super inefficient. when the cost of sticking with divines becomes greater than the benefit, there is nothing stopping a switch

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and people do trade other consumables in PoE

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divines are just the most common currency

gray panther
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im not saying they are never traded, i just dont believe hyperinflation in the defacto currencies would cause a shift. its gotten close a few times (ive only played PoE since 3.0), and everyone just had to deal with it

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PoE isnt a real barter economy

patent delta
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well it wouldn't for divines because an infinite number of them could replace the need to trade (another brilliant aspect of the system, there's inherent value in the thing itself, it's not JUST a store of value).

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In any case, the market self regulates well enough and it's a lot easier than taking ownership of the market dynamics directly 🤷‍♂️

gray panther
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if gold had better sinks do you think it would regulate itself better?

patent delta
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I actually think LE does a great job with in-game gold sinks...LA can be tweaked to do an even better job at this. The issue is that a single exploit can eradicate the whole economy over night like this and ruin a whole faction track for those who aren't aalready at the top of the wealth distribution.

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Like, if you could get infinite divines in PoE for a short duration of time...like if one divine become super duper cheap....that's cool actually because, rerolling affixes has inherent value...cool, now that's easier to do. there's at least a benefit for me as a player if the market is oversaturated with divines in PoE. There's not player benefit to hyperinflation of gold, only downsides

gray panther
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well thats why i ask, because it sounds like the problem is that gold doesn't have uses outside of being a psuedo-fiat currency. you say LA is a decent sink but apprently not enough to combat hyperinflation

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if you could use gold to craft then it be very similar to PoE, no?

patent delta
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ah, no the problem is that the only people who can efficiently use LA right now as a gold sink are the same privileged class that has access to elite items, the marginal utility of each piece of gold is near nothing, whereas the marginal utility of a single divine can vary based on its value as currency, but there's a higher floor, it can't go beneath a certain value that is equal to its inherent value...does that make sense?

gray panther
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yes it does, but then my argument is that gold should have more efficient sinks. like I get that PoE currency has intrinsic value because you can craft with them. so to make the two system "equal", gold needs a use that is competitive with using it as a barter tool.

patent delta
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like the only people who have gold to sink like that are those who have already made it to the top 1% of the income distribution. Now if they temporarily made LA rewards sooooo amazing so as to make economic transactions less valuable such that people didn't want to trade, they could take money out of the economy...and actuallly, that may just be a brilliant idea

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can I propose that to EGH?

gray panther
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i mean it sounds like a cool solution

patent delta
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I think that's the way out dude lol

gray panther
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Lightless Arbor flash sale

patent delta
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Let's think through the effects of this...supply of items would increase dramatically

blazing cairn
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is it just me or does cof feel alot better than the MG because anything useful cost an arm and a leg

boreal bramble
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how much favor are you guys able to get in an hour

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40k an hour seems quite bad'

hazy elm
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top people farm 200k+

nocturne kernel
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whats the best strat for farming favor?

limber minnow
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Lost my imperial war camp beacon node from a d/c yesterday. I’m on my 3rd full web and still can’t find another zzzz

boreal bramble
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Wait is that the strat to farm beacon nodes on repeat. I saw it gave a lot but didn’t care to do it at the time

acoustic cedar
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Dear lord, why do melee weapons, 2h and 1h sword prophecies share the same icon

slim veldt
hazy elm
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look up @gray ermine posts here

blazing cairn
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damn it be hard to get gold to buy stash tabs in cof

hazy elm
blazing cairn
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but you got to pick up all the Unique

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that and i have two tabs full already of keys that i might have to stop picking up

hazy elm
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😅 no u dont really unless u want to play like 10 builds

blazing cairn
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i think the only unique i leave is the stone shield that drops everywhere

gray ermine
random horizon
blazing cairn
gray ermine
slim veldt
gray ermine
gray ermine
gray ermine
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Also u need to maximize mobility and burst to pump favor effectively in 1.1 due to hard cap around 1-1.5k... Max zoom meta and frontloaded dmg is king

arctic seal
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Another day went by without cof r10 bug getting fixed...

outer nacelle
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sadge.

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is t1 julra the best for strictly just stardial farming? or is that g1mping LP chance

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(ill wait until r10 bug is fixed anyway i guess)

arctic seal
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i'm not sure, i think it doesn't matter? I got LP3 peak of the mountain from t3 lightless arbor

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oh juldra's stardial has lp level of 70, that means we cant spam t1 temporal sanctum

livid spruce
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It matters, but idk how much exactly. Running T4 is probably always the goal if you can do it easily, but T3 is not too much lower of a level.

outer nacelle
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chances of 2lp pretty low. only found 1 all of last season. probably early game strat would just do t1 for best 1lp rolls, getting 2-3 of them per run (once r10 is fixed)

night maple
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Had no idea there was a bug with boss loot dropping before harbingers spawn in. Lost 30 ish items lol

hazy elm
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its not a bug tho, just bad design

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the prophecy says after xxx timeline boss kill, not after harbinger kill, so it works right, devs just didnt think much about it

night maple
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@hazy elm Damn, good point. Just got to get good I guess lol.

gusty hare
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Can't find a monument of protection anywhere

boreal bramble
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prophecies are effected by corruption modifiers correct?

blazing cairn
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so any specific way you guys are farming idols or is it just luck of the draw from prophecies

winter shadow
winter siren
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Hey, its truth that rank 12 is bugged and and only gives x 1,5 and not x2?

glad sable
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can you stack refracting rhyme or refracting wealth with itself (have them on all three slots)?

split summit
unique jay
split summit
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9 days in cycle and the crucial things are not fixed so ye

winter siren
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Yeah that one i was aware. Also a question. I’m currently rank 11 in cof and i have enough favour to pick prophecies to rank up to 12. When i finish those prophecies will i receive double the reward ? Since i pick the prophecies at rank 11?

unique jay
arctic seal
ancient osprey
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did anyone else notice that soul vessels in the abomination fight count as watcher eyes enemies or whatever they are called

foggy gull
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whats funny is that dev said they already have the fix for dungeons 2 days ago

arctic seal
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surely they will fix this crucial bug before friday...

urban turtle
foggy gull
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not disconnect, t10 cof

winter siren
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We need a fix for rank 10 and rank 12

urban turtle
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OH! Both of those are with the QA Team now 😁

vivid ore
split summit
safe dome
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Unfortunately it will be too little too late

limber minnow
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Assuming it’s fixed in a couple days, that’s not too bad of a response time.

arctic seal
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it shouldnt be this hard to target a specific weapon prophecy, i have been spending 10+ rolls so far on average

hollow pagoda
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there is no fix for rank 12 CoF rn yet right?

vivid ore
misty pawn
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CoF max level jumped from 10 to 12?

livid spruce
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Yeah

hidden temple
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Really need to do dungeons but waiting for rank 10 fix

wooden briar
vivid ore
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just do echoes as fast as you can

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push corruption until you are comfortable, then if u find imperial warcamp beacon echo, you can keep repeating it by going out at 40-50% beacon charge

gray ermine
vivid ore
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enrage/deadly mod give 40% exp so if u happen to find it you can do that echo first before farming imperial warcamp beacon

gray ermine
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Need to do a x3 Deadly/enrage into x2-3 Deadly/enrage... I'd recommend one of each, because stacking either or will be much more sketchy due to how the mods interact

wooden briar
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oh ok, thats good to know ty, its a bit weird that resetting an echo is the fastes way to farm favor/gain exp

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does the deadly/enrage mod reset on resetting an echo or only once completed?

vivid ore
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the scaling past certain corruption sucks so people do it this way now apparently

gray ermine
gray ermine
wooden briar
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what does "spamming a layout" mean? layout of the map? doesnt it reset?

gray ermine
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it's just now there's a hard cap and max favor/hr will prob cap out around 300-400k, but the new rank bonuses + Nemesis help a lot

gray ermine
wooden briar
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and how come the setup is a pain? sounds easy enough for me, no?

gray ermine
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because u have to find a specific layout on an information echo lol

wooden briar
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im sorry, im not sure i know what those words mean, wahts an "information" echo?

gray ermine
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so u want to make sure u push the timeline as high as is comfortable (ideally 600-1k) before farming

wooden briar
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yes, the highest corruption without dying and still killing stuff i guess

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do you mean that its a pain to find an echo where the beacon is easy to reach?

gray ermine
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I also have the setup on another timeline at 600c, going to test to see if it's worth moving up yet... Two best timeline imo are Reign/Outcasts due to native spawns

normal torrent
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yo, anyone got frozensentinels loot filter for his frostclaw build with static orb for CoF?

thick briar
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Is cof down? Been stuck at 7 for days and have done at least 25-30 proficiency during that time. Not to mention several echos full completion 100+

wooden briar
gray ermine
wooden briar
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ok, thats good to know, ty

nocturne kernel
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cof rank 12 fixed yay

gray ermine
nocturne kernel
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just need rank 10 to be fixed now so i can go farm my peak

gray ermine
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I've seen 4-5 ladle drops total so far, and have killed most mages I've seen, and zero double ups for any of their uniques

nocturne kernel
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yeah same here. and like last league the higher corruption i go the less ladles ive seen

gray ermine
nocturne kernel
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luckly im not using laddle this league lol

vivid ore
stable sequoia
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fr, omnis is borderline impossible to get

frosty pelican
gray ermine
next cape
azure ice
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can anyone confirm they actually fixed rank 12?

slim veldt
foggy gull
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confirming a bugfix and patch notes are very different, according to patch notes "never late" was also fixed

arctic seal
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R10 is still not fixed according to patch notes

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tomorrow surely...

next cape
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Screw it we ball

hidden temple
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well at least rank 12 got fixed

next cape
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That's the big one IMO the dungeon, Orobyss, and Exiled Mage still not working sucks but Rank 12 is just a big freaking deal tbh

forest marsh
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rank 12 fixed as in we can slap in the x2 reward lens again?

nocturne kernel
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yes

forest marsh
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woop woop! gregory

ember scaffold
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when the prophecy says 1 legendary potential unique, does that mean at least 1 LP, or will always drop with only 1LP

hazy elm
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at least, but they are never worth cause cost too much favor

ember scaffold
outer nacelle
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they should have addressed that. easy fix, reduce price by 5-10x or something

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tha'ts really a 'do the devs even play the game' scenario. which i know they do, so why is it still like that

hazy elm
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its weird ye...

rose plover
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when u recommend to visit observatory for new prophecies?
when have around 5k favour, 10k or other value?

lone sparrow
acoustic cedar
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Do you always put a full tank of gas in your car, or 20 quid each time?

drifting hatch
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whats quid

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I use freedom units

outer nacelle
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pretty much. the only other thing to take into consideration especially when starting out, is that spending the favor will give you cof rank experience, so if you are near an important rank milestone, spend it to reach that rank

spark merlin
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i have over 150k favor to spend on nothing

stable hamlet
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theres always stuff to spend favor on wym

arctic seal
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spend on unique ring

orchid cipher
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does the increased boss drop apply to any enemy with the health/ward gates or only timeline bosses?

outer raft
orchid cipher
outer raft
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I believe it does for the mages but it’s also not working as intended

orchid cipher
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ah cheers

outer raft
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As of now it’s just the timeline bosses :/

copper oxide
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Guys which lenses u usin for prophecies?

subtle latch
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but if u are on lower corruption or slow farming favor, just pick the less chance for dungeon/arena/campaign prophecys

tacit token
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is there one that can help me get to lvl 9 i am now lvl 5

plucky lintel
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Question: Are prophecies able to drop items that drops from exclusive boss, Apathy's Maw, for example ?

gleaming mirage
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No

hollow sequoia
arctic seal
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another day of R10 not getting fixed...

lapis sigil
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Anyone know what tier Runes of Creation (the duplication rune) prophecies appear after rework? I know it was tier 9 before in 1.0, not sure if its moved with rework.

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nevermind. Just confirmed it still appears at tier 9. So probably unchanged.

wooden briar
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how do I chose which timeline I want to push farm? i dont need any boss unique, most unuiques is gambit relic for rogues cause I wanna reroll that weavers alot, wouold relic timeleine be good then?

wooden briar
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if activate a crest on bosses for harbinger kills do I not get boss loot or prophecies? lagoon for example didnt drop his usual chest for me

jolly spire
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the harby will drop the boss stuff once you kill it
if you're not looking for any particular boss, i just go wherever the prophecies want me to go

lapis sigil
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If you slam a class specific affix on a unique the resulting legendary becomes class specific. What if you slam a hybrid-class specific affix on a unique? For example %mana is specific to both sentinel and rogue. If I use a %mana rogue armor for the slam, does the resulting armor become 1) rogue specific, 2) rogue/sentinel specific, or 3) unrestricted?

arctic seal
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it's really over... we are not getting R10 bug fixed by weekends, oh well at least poe league is coming next weekends

urban turtle
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Maybe not 👀

scenic bane
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Why are all prophecis for Julra bugged -.-

hazy elm
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they are not? are u killing the right tier of the boss(or higher one)?

scenic bane
hazy elm
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thats new 🧐 report report

scenic bane
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i did, 3 days ago 😄

acoustic cedar
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Is stacking prophecies bugged/changed? I swear that for the second time in a row I've had 2 prophecies for a boss kill, both would proc, but only got loot from 1

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Had 2 idol prophecies from soulfire boss, only dropped 5 gran idols. I wouldn't even enter the dungeon with just 1

nocturne kernel
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rank 10 being fixed today and is gonna work with mages and shades

arctic seal
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COPIUM

nocturne kernel
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egh muffin said in global chat

hidden temple
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Really? Pls be true

blazing cairn
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yo best place to farm gold for stash tabs with CoF?

left gale
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hotfix live. supposed to fix rank 10

gray ermine
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R10 fix let's gooo

next cape
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R10 definitely working

odd sedge
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how long does it take to get to r10

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just got to r6

left gale
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does r10 double the Glyph of Despair drops? or just seeing extra boss loot? (Despair is the current bonus for t4 julra)

acoustic cedar
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I wouldn't bet my money on it being a boss specific drop

acoustic cedar
livid spruce
valid leaf
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Patch out for the CoF rank 10 fix. whew

limber minnow
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Dungeon loot actually bearable now

dense hedge
whole hornet
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Is here any red ring lp farmers i can join ?

ember scaffold
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Is there a fast way to increase the levels of your COF. I feel like I have put in so many hours and am barely at level 10

hazy elm
ember scaffold
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around 220, any higher and I get clapped. Need a unique armor piece to help with my defenses

hazy elm
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well ye you need to go to 400-600 or so, 220 is a bit low for xp grind,all u can do is get the xp blessing

ember scaffold
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jesus I am getting clapped at 250 man. I dont know how I would survive that lmao. i am playing sentinel right now

whole hornet
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Playing broken builds is the way

ember scaffold
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with the new season of POE coming out next week I just want to get my FG to the pinnacle boss 😄

whole hornet
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There is one stupid way high lvl corruption arena. And all time you need die before end. Then spam infinity xp

acoustic cedar
livid spruce
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Yeah, the exclusive echo things aren't super impactful, but if you need any boss drops, that's pretty much the place to be

errant ledge
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How long should I expect it to take me to get R12?

dense quarry
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That’s entirely dependent on you? If you play half an hour a day it’s gonna be quite a while

ember scaffold
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Does the prophecy get affected by map I am in. For example, if I have a prophecy for dropping exalted chest armor and It completes in a 400 corruption location will it more likely drop higher tier equipment and affixes?

hazy elm
arctic seal
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today was a good day to wake up to

pastel tangle
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I pushed decently hard and i got to 1k corruption, level 100, and max rank all around the same time

indigo zodiac
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So what is the best blessing from the first timeline? Xp for more favor from COF? Simple bonus unique chance?

potent eagle
hazy elm
whole ginkgo
pastel tangle
green sinew
ember scaffold
hazy elm
oak tendon
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For items form timelines (I.E unstable core), will prophecies of that type cashed in on that timelone be able to drop the item?

ember scaffold
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is there a way to increase the staves in a monolith that arent legendary or set? I have run enough prophecies to get at least 100 2 handed staffs and I still havent gotten one with elemental damage over time:/

oak tendon
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drop filter hidfing them?

ember scaffold
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Nope, I even turn it off cause I am in disbelief

oak tendon
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That's hella unlucky. I'd have thought rare stave prophs would make it very easy to farm.

ember scaffold
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I am looking for exalted ones but I still cant believe this bruh'

lost hollow
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Man CoF is still not a viable alternative to MG and it sucks. I am burning out on target farming, I'm losing count of how much favor I've spent on utterly useless loot explosions of which nothing is even worth picking up 🙁

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Made even worse by the fact that off-meta barely exists in LE. You play meta skills or you don't do enough damage no matter what, which sucks. No amount of CoF farming can make non-meta skills good

misty pawn
lost hollow
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Sad times to be realising that just one week into a cycle

ember scaffold
lost hollow
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I'm not far off that count of daggers and I still don't have a second 2lp blast knife

oak tendon
pastel tangle
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I focused 1 time-line up to 300 and then did the blessings along with harbingers, using glyphs of envy later to reroll if I didn't get it the first time

lilac frigate
#

Which part of set does drop mana spent as ward affix?

exotic dust
ember scaffold
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use the hubris gloves to make bleed turn into ignite and pick up bleed chance in the FG tree

muted token
exotic dust
ember scaffold
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How do I upload the build?

muted token
ember scaffold
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oh just to post to supreme surprise to show him my build. Is that how you do it?

muted token
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Yes, I reckon that'd be the easiest way

muted token
fringe salmon
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Does anyone know if the rank 10 bonus causes boss drops to override harbinger unique drops?
I've killed lagon at 150c in hardcore 5 times now and gotten 12 alluvion drops with no blade of chaos.
I really dont want to lose my character doing this risky fight all day

desert knoll
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What are the best lenses?

near agate
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does area level affect what uniques can drop from a prophecy

potent eagle
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Has anyone watched Frozen Sentinel's CoF bug video on youtube a few days ago? think I'm gonna hoard favor until these are addressed.

hazy elm
potent eagle
hazy elm
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they fixed pickup thing in the same patch and rank10 was fixed yrdya

potent eagle
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I see, missed that one. Wonder if they fixed the Aberroth bug too

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now if only they'd fix dungeons heavybreathing

vocal current
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How much game time is required to get the 2nd tier resonance? I've played 7-10 hours with a mate and have yet to see one yet.

tame sundial
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Is there any prophecy that can make more likely to get a dungeon boss drop?

livid spruce
tame sundial
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Alright ty

wraith hazel
jolly sail
wraith hazel
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We had 3 in around that time.
But always hard to tell net playtime for me. Could be we have some more time already.

In the end it is: Don't idle too much, kill stuff and hope for the best.

jolly sail
wraith hazel
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I mean we can share all loot, even from prophecies, I think I can speak for my friend and say: We feel like playing together gives us a nice advantage.

Needed to get used to the system first, but it always felt fine for me personally

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But I see you point, rng can be cruel sometimes

wraith hazel
jolly sail
wraith hazel
jolly sail
wraith hazel
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I see.

jolly sail
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Also, I think there is something going on with the nemesis because last time I tried, we couldn't trade something from a nemesis drop we killed together.

wraith hazel
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Have no experience with that, but if I remember I test it later the day

jolly sail
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Maybe it was because the item was from a nemesis I started alone on another character, but killed after empowering it with my friends. Not sure, I'll have to test it more.

spark coyote
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are there prophecies to make timeline end bosses drop more loots from their loot table?

next cape
spark coyote
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alright, that's a long climb, thanks!

azure ice
jolly trail
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All the changes looked pretty solid how is cof feeling this season?

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Did they add a little bit better unique filtering and custom minimap indicators?

livid spruce
azure ice
sour flume
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played MG last cycle.. bout to do my first char of the cycle.. should i run CoF? and can you still have someone teleport you to the factions at the start of the game?

hazy elm
sour flume
misty pawn
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How to rank up fast? Spending favor vs farming in echo?

outer nacelle
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both. should reach rank 12 at around lvl 100

potent eagle
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Yeah I’m 10.5 ish at lvl 95

misty pawn
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Does item LP dropped from prophecies scale with corruption too?

vagrant remnant
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does the weavers will prophecy set ithe item to a fixed weavers will value? as in, do the x16 ones ALWAYS give 16 weavers will or at LEAST 16 with the potential of more?

oak tendon
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Do higher arena/dungeon tiers unlok lower tier Qs?

molten pilot
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is it worth buying the prophecies that guarantees 1 LP items if im looking for 2+ LP items ? is it higher change for more LP ?

jolly spire
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never worth it

outer nacelle
outer nacelle
wooden briar
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whats the best approach to get lp3 items as CoF? looking at buildes from other ppl runnin around with all that good stuff and here i am barely finding even the right exalted items.

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i can do echoes on 400c atm just fine, but bosses just onetap me

cyan magnet
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do grand idol prophecies actually exist?

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I bought the proper len's and I have yet to see a single one in 20 rerolls

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nevermind finally got one lol must be very raree

livid spruce
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rng be random

pastel bluff
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RNGesus must be mad at you.

potent eagle
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I feel like idols are the worst when it comes to COF vs MG... I have yet to find a single 2 stat idol for my end game setup on sorc. Would be nice to be able to buy them lol. Aside from idols, everything else has been fun drops wise.

hazy elm
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spam prophecies with blessing switched for idols

potent eagle
livid spruce
potent eagle
pastel tangle
potent eagle
hard grove
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Do Prophecies stack or donu have to complete 1 at a time ?

livid spruce
hard grove
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Sweet

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Ty for the info

placid magnet
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the fact that i have to redo all my faction progress on my high level characters after a cycle is complete nonsense, i just wanted to a litle dopamine rush between grinding out another character, and instead im forced to grind on a character thats already done it, already has gear and now cant use it...if this is going to happen every time, I WILL NOT ever roll a new cycle character again, may not even bother to play.

livid spruce
placid magnet
livid spruce
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Yeah no problem, I wish they had a message or something in game to tell you to do it

placid magnet
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agreed, I was feeling pretty discouraged the last couple days lol.

outer nacelle
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i logged onto my non cycle char just to see how it was, saw it was cof rank 1 and logged out.

limber minnow
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lol. Good times

nocturne tangle
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can i make an alt char to play in CoF, my main is in MG rn and market is making me wanna quit xD

limber minnow
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Yes

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But faction gear is exclusive

misty pawn
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Why for optimizing gear in high corruption, CoF is better?

midnight pollen
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I think for the price of MG item.

misty pawn
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Even if not considering the current state of the economy?

wooden briar
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If I need lots of exalted chests/helmets, is it best to go for rare prophecies or exalted? Or just both and get as many with as little rerolls as possible?

limber minnow
wooden briar
limber minnow
vagrant remnant
idle sundial
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🫠 It's pretty damn that prophecies gave me different rewards. Actual rewards don't match with the tooltip at all... I'm confused.

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Pretty sure prophecies I accepted just unique bows only but it give me a bunch of rare and exalted bows instead of all of them are unique bows...
EXCUSE ME? WHERE'RE MY UNIQUE BOWS :(

wooden briar
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losing a screen full of prophecies casue I'm busy looting and getting oneshotted by some #!* spire , really really sucks

twilit jetty
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Was the tier 12 rank perk changed? I recall last season it literally duped your prophecies, now it's just more items?

jolly spire
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last cycle rank 12 didn't even exist
no more dupes, just more items

livid spruce
twilit jetty
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Shame, no more free double 4LPs

livid spruce
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It's a buff, since you're more likely to get a 4 LP now

misty pawn
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Starting which rank is it worth to also get rare item prophecies when I farm exalts for slamming?

hazy elm
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i think its r9 now? just check the on that turns rare to exals

misty pawn
hazy elm
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yep that one

tranquil sinew
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Favor gain buffs when? 😭 👆

pastel tangle
midnight pollen
solid seal
# limber minnow But faction gear is exclusive

Did they fix the Nemesis egg to start checking faction requirement? You could buy items off of MG with one character, put them into the egg on a CoF character, and the upgraded item affected by the LP chance benefit would have a CoF faction requirement instead of an MG requirement

cursive scarab
solid seal
solid seal
# cursive scarab Wait, what?

A week ago, you could take a unique item bought from the bazaar (gives it MG faction requirement) and put it in the nemesis egg. If the item upgraded to a legendary (adds affixes), then the faction requirement doesn't change. If the item stays unique and increases the LP, all items offered by the Nemesis get a CoF tag which overwrites the MG tag.

frosty pelican
cyan magnet
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did they fix the issue with the refracting lenses and the rank 12 CoF bonus?

solid seal
distant leaf
uneven iron
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Is there a good merchant guild loot filter anywhere that just shows potentially valuable items?

nocturne kernel
frosty pelican
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Just need a single target build

misty pawn
minor crown
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even past that u have literally 10k ppl playing the game the only ppl left in mg are rmters lmao

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and ehg has shown that have absolutely no plan to stop ppl from buying gold so nothing matters even if there isnt an exploit

hazy elm
misty pawn
hazy elm
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thats not an easy fix at all, they need to recode boss to not give xp cause favor isnt dropping, its just xp gets converted on every kill

modern iris
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it is clearly not intended

unkempt elk
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is the rune of ascendance somehow useful? can you target roll smth?

modern iris
stiff wing
hazy elm
limber minnow
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Doin 200k favor and 20 envies/hr on paladin. Its not much but its honest work.

stiff wing
hazy elm
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just normal monos? or beacon grind?

misty pawn
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How is reputation calculted?

hazy elm
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its % of your xp + 2x favor spent

limber minnow
hazy elm
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pogg thats pretty good on pala, not sure whats sentinel best speedrunning 1k cor build, i think its either bleed hammers or ignite shield rush

misty pawn
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I think frozen's tech is still "honest" work, as you indeed legimately killed the boss, using a really good single target build that you invested a lot into.

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and this inspires me to park a boss to farm boss kill prophecies with

limber minnow
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I’m a big fan of warpath in general cause I’m lazy. pressing zero buttons makes farming super chill.

misty pawn
limber minnow
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Ya I farm mono. Kills lots of monsters over and over

solid seal
# misty pawn How is reputation calculted?

One favor = Four reputation. For every faction favor earned, you earn two faction reputation. For every faction favor spent, you earn two faction reputation. Spending includes purchasing prophecies (telescopes), rerolling constellations (telescopes), buying lenses (vendor), and buying random items (vendor).

solid seal
# unkempt elk is the rune of ascendance somehow useful? can you target roll smth?

Rune of Ascendance crafting is another way to acquire unique and set items from the random drops pool. The item you apply the rune to will generate a unique/set item of the same type (e.g. Wand, Shield, Catalyst, Belt, etc). The rank 2 benefit of Circle of Fortune gives a 45% chance to not consume the rune in a craft when the item you craft on has a Circle of Fortune faction requirement. In 1.0, uniques crafted this way had a significantly lower chance to have legendary potential. Not sure if this is true in 1.1, but we at least have nemesis eggs to feed 0LP unique items to.

frosty pelican
# misty pawn I think frozen's tech is still "honest" work, as you indeed legimately killed th...

Honestly I don't think this is any more or less ethical than resetting beacons, both probably shouldn't be in the game as they are clearly not intended to be an optimal method of farming. The boss reset strat only gives a viable option to builds that are more heavy into single target where previously you were forced to spec full speed to get a reasonable favor per hour.

It's mind numbing though

potent eagle
next cape
safe dome
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EHG should be happy that people may play longer if they can get quick favour

hazy elm
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nah how about they make more people stay by providing them more opportunity to progress the game, instead of bore them out in 1 week

safe dome
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nothing to progress

hazy elm
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depends on the build

potent eagle
steep trellis
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Game is good ,but like lacks so much Quality of life on many aspects like after 800 hours I got a 2 lp apathy maw ,and of course bricked instantly,I feel shade needs a faster better way to farm it .LE desperately wants you to make alts and that's fine and all but balancing is quite garbage, specially life builds or melee builds feel way undertuned ,my rogue glass cannon feels tankier at a glance than my sentinel builds, only block build feels sort tanky .

molten sentinel
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i am very open to other ways to progress or at least nerfing the amount of grind for favor/reputation.

hazy elm
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i see so many people saying the same thing as u do, and yet it seems ehg wants to make grind only longer when less than 1% of players even engage with that grind, why? seems really unreasonable to me

misty pawn
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one thing for me against CoF is I don't like to grind items in dungeons.

limber minnow
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I agree dungeons are lame. But this best way on MG to farm gold is spam lightless arbor. So that’s prolly even worse

regal nebula
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I don't know how many ARPG some played, but Imho is Last epoch one of the best tailored game to farm specific Gear and Items. Or do i miss something? Of course, gettin 3 or 4 LP Uniques is really really rare. But thats RNG, i suppose. And even mentioned as End-Endgame Gear, or not? Even the Big COrruption numbers arent meant to be the Ground for Balancing, iirc.

and to pick up Misha's Message: Are really more Player in MG than in Cof?

open hawk
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I really like trading in PoE, because crafting is so difficult, tedious, and expensive. I feel like gear that you want NEVER drops in that game, you basically have to craft it or buy from someone that did.

Last Epoch is different. Crafting on random drops you get is viable, and crafting is easy and fun. That's why I like CoF, because I don't NEED to trade when I can easily craft stuff myself. And getting drops is so exciting when I think I might be able to craft on it and get something better than what I have.

I know some other games like Grim Dawn have ways to target farm things, but I really like Last Epoch's design for target farming and it was made even better when 1.0 launched and CoF came out, then even better still with the Nemesis system. I have no issues with it and I enjoy farming the boss of Blood, Frost, and Death over and over again to find some Last Steps with 2 LP and if I get some with 0 LP, it's just so fun to throw it in an egg and watch it hatch with uselesss stats I didn't want! 😄 But hey I tried, then we start all over again. 😛

regal nebula
# open hawk I really like trading in PoE, because crafting is so difficult, tedious, and exp...

Exactly my point of view. ARPG's are meant for Farming, the Grind, the Exciting drops. I love it and play it, because of this.
And then something drops, with some stats that are on the first glance crap. but then you think about a funny skill combination with Class XY and want to try it. ANd an Alt is born.

The Same with other Loot Games. From Shooter to other ARPG.

At Least vor Me.

Still: would love a "User" Number for BOth factions.

hazy elm
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and yes mike said on stream that we had more mg people, just didnt reveal numbers, at this point tho all mg is gone thanks for dupe and poe

regal nebula
#

I See. thanks! I don't watch streams for the most part. So i missed that information. 🤔 the question is, what is needed for the people to stay? And is that even possible?

hazy elm
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well whats the point of the faction system if over 80% of people get to rank 1-3? for example make all factions half unlocked after campaign and fully unlocked after unlocking emp monos, and then ofc add more monolith activites, delete/rework arena echoes, buff favor gain or reduce prophecy/mg favor cost, those are the things i saw the most in the community

jolly spire
potent eagle
# hazy elm the main thing you are missing is that its not fun for most of the people, very ...

I agree with this. I'm almost about to hit level 100, already COF 12, and the end game grind doesn't feel that great, especially when I see how easily people can acquire items on MG and repeatedly do their slams for min maxing. COF players have it extremely worse when you consider the low chances to 1. Find a specific unique you are target farming 2. That unique rolls the ideal LP (at least 2 to increase slam odds) 3. Finding the exact exalt with a T7 affix you intend to slam and 4. Actually hitting the slam when in many cases you are going at it with a 25% chance. You could easily spend hours and hours going through this entire process and just bricking the item. I get the grind aspect of ARPGs, I've played D2, D3, and D4 as well as a little bit of POE. The end game grind here (for COF at least) just doesn't feel balanced. Would be cool if we had some lenses that allow us to target farm specific uniques or maybe increased the drop rate of ultra rare uniques etc. I don't play MG because I don't want to buy all the best gear and end up bored with nothing to strive for, but yeah.

hazy elm
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you can do all of that in cof but it requires u to play a lot, play specific build, play mindnumbing strategy on already lackluster endgame. They are limiting high end grind for no reason while also not providing engaging fun entrance to the system for starting players

potent eagle
hazy elm
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it does not, yes

regal nebula
#

🤔 I understand most of the Points here.

More Endgame = More Bosses to clear, Getting a Character close to finish or clear Stage XYZ from > Insert Gamemode here < ? in Which i Agree. More Gametypes and Encounter to play is always good. Harbinger was a good first addition, IMHO. For more Encounter and Itemization.

hazy elm
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people here complained abt getting 60k favor at 800 cor and thats way out of devs scope of view

regal nebula
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But still. You can't make the Factions grind too fast. Since lvl 12 is some sort of achivement to reach?

potent eagle
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@hazy elm what do you think about a different slam system for COF players? like maybe the ability to reroll the slam if you miss etc

hazy elm
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achievment should be slaying bosses and clearing hard content,not getting QOL in the game, thats really stupid design

hazy elm
hidden temple
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They just nerf timeline boss favor farm lmao what a joke

left gale
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LOL

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"Experience granted by the original timeline boss is granted by the harbinger instead if one spawns. This prevents an abuse case where you could repeatedly kill the timeline boss for xp and then portal out before killing the harbinger to farm favour (from xp)."

hazy elm
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i wish they were fixing skill bugs with the same enthusiasm as cof favor abuse 😦

misty pawn
#

they very entusiatically fix things that make the game more enjoyable

hazy elm
#

big time

livid spruce
potent eagle
regal knoll
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They will never let us have cof in real high lvl again, will they?

#

For f sake...

solid seal
#

@frosty pelican pls make a video about more bugs so they get priority fixed, kthx!

#

Would love if teleporting from an incomplete echo takes you back to the monolith reward area instead of to town in offline mode

frosty pelican
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I feel like EHG has a script that just creates a dev ticket each time I upload a video called "Fix whatever Frozen showed"

solid seal
#

at least they didn't fix prophecy event cycling for rewards since Harbinger Crests adds a step after every timeline boss that allows you to skip out on paying full stability costs

frosty pelican
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I find that kinda sketchy tbh

#

looting while big boy coming in to smash you

solid seal
#

its really no different than formosus/abom, which didn't get fixed until after the cycle. As you said, it carries some risk if you don't have a loot filter that hides the labels to uninteresting items

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only thing you can't do is collect loot from abom's four soul vessels, since the lower floor gas doesn't reset until you kill the harbinger

livid spruce
solid seal
outer nacelle
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that's one of those bugs i expected them to take a year to fix.

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could have been pretty op though, i've gotten quite a few good lp outcomes from nems, 2lp wrongwarp, 2 lp unstable core, multiple 2 lp conflucence

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they didnt say how they fixed it though, can you still do it and still get the cof perk, but the tag doesn't change?

winter shadow
#

If only they can fix skill/items interaction bug as fast as they do with favor farming trick

misty pawn
#

does double reward lenses stack?

teal path
#

I may have rolled like 1.5b boots lmao

#

but im COF

#

Cant send pics in here?

red helm
whole hornet
#

if you got cof boots then you mean 1500 coins ones

cold sphinx
#

Why am I broke playing with this faction? Fortune needs to extend to a form of gold generation. I want to spend big money on lightless chests 😭

solid seal
tame rune
mellow coyote
#

how do you farm favor as cof?

regal knoll
jolly spire
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kill anything that moves, then go spend all the favor you gain to get even more favor

modern iris
#

more rep you mean

tight vale
#

hm I feel like Weaver Will gears atm only fitting for MG, not CoF
due to its nature of RNG rolls
like for MG at least even if you don't have the right rolls you can just trade it
but for CoF it seems nigh impossible to get the ideal ones over LP unless you are willing to farm / try like 1000 of them or have god like RNG on your side

molten sentinel
#

So you’re saying we should be able to sell items to CoF merchants in exchange for favor/rep?

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Instead of gold that is

teal path
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anyone do lagon 424 corr

supple halo
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does rank 12 on CoF work retroactively?

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like, I have abou 250k favor and I'm 200k away from hitting rank 12, so if I get prophecies, will the rewards be duplicated?

solid seal
supple halo
outer elm
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what is the best lens setup outside of the lens your currently using to target farm?

hazy elm
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its always double use double drop+something

left gale
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Yes, always use the double use and double drop lense. Then, if there's something specific you want like exalted helmets, use the helmet lens. If you want a mix of things from one constellation like exalted helmets and unique chests and unique boots, then use a lens to block content you don't want to play (like arenas or dungeons or story).

hazy elm
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no, never use blocking lenses, its a bait

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if you want a mix just use 2 lenses and swap between them while rolling

potent eagle
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I think the target item lens is kinda bait too. wouldn't it be good to just use two of the double rewards and 1 of the double use lens and reroll as needed?

misty pawn
solid seal
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You can equip multiples of the same doubling lens, but the effect is only applied once to the constellation. There is no point in equipping TWO double rewards lenses. The consensus is ONE double reward, ONE double use, and one of your choice

potent eagle
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lmao damn, what a waste of favor

misty pawn
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double use vs. double rewards?

potent eagle
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no ive been stacking the double rewards lol

solid seal
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you should probably be aware that the same applies to blocking lenses. You can equip one, two, or three of the same activity blocking lens, but the effect only applies once.

potent eagle
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Yeah I dont bother with the blocking ones, but thanks for clarifying the other stuff.

lost hollow
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I am losing the will to farm on CoF

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You still cannot target farm and it's painful

#

I don't even want to know how many hours I've spent farming 2lp dragoraths

#

Two drops, two bricks, dozens and dozens more hours 😭

#

MG next cycle, dupes or not

vague pier
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cycle is still new... just come to mg now lol

lost hollow
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Can't be bothered going through the rank grind again

vague pier
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i can power level you quick if u like. doing 1.5k corruption atm

lost hollow
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It'll be next cycle for sure, unless CoF sees actual target farming buffs

wooden briar
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i kinda agree that CoF targeted farming is lacking, im a bit done as melee bladedance at 1014c now and only way to get better is with lp2-4 items, but cba to go lower corruption now and mindlessy grind that for hours on end just to brick my slam in the end, there needs to be something like 900c prophecies for lp3 items or something

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or let me create a custom prophecies for a specific item with specific lp where I have to do a very special thing somewhere somehow, and the grind would come from repeating that to get good rolls and get favor to afford it. like, "Get "Wall of Nothing" lp2, kill harbinger in fallen empire at 800c while you have the deadly modifier active"

potent eagle
vague pier
potent eagle
torpid vale
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lol MG stealing COF players !!

misty pawn
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lol you know what's than the current MG economy due to gold exploit? CoF!

potent eagle
torpid vale
turbid copper
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Are prophecy items drops scale with character level? Because i got unstable core from campaign Liath

torpid vale
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Not too sure tbh

solid seal
potent eagle
turbid copper
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Liath was around 5x while unstable core was lv 7x, near lv 80 (i forgot the exact level) 😦, lastepochtools should show the area lv req for the drops

lucid pawn
potent eagle
hazy elm
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cof isnt good if u aint farming 150k f/h+

torpid vale
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Tbh I got plenty of lp3 with COF rank 12 and only been rank 12 for 3 days

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Got dragon claw and enigma lp3 a few times already

lost hollow
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It's not even a mega rare 2lp, I've just had the most rotten fckin luck and an ocean of 1lp

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I'm still of the opinion CoF needs yet more buffs after 1.1. 1.1 helped but even not-that-rare, not-that-meta builds are 300-500 hour builds, it's insane

fast fable
wooden briar
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is the best way to farm items with cof to do some beacon and then pop boss prophecies on the reset echo? does anyone know which beacon exactly and how do I know when to quit out?

subtle wedge
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I'm also getting burnt out from the farming. I've gone through the storm mono unique glove echos 50+ times, done about 30+ unique glove prophecies with double reward double use, so hundreds of unique gloves at this point and not a single Salt the Wound :/ feels bad man

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I was thinking, it would be nice if they added a shatter mechanic for uniques. Like you get a specific type of material depending on the item type you shatter. Say you shatter 20 unique gloves, you'll get 20 of the unique glove material. Then you have a unique vendor that sells uniques, the rarer the unique the higher the cost in unique mats. So instead of going through 100 unique gloves you don't need, you could shatter them and buy the uniques, from this vendor while still staying on CoF

wooden briar
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my biggest gripe is how I spend a very long time trying to roll prophecies when I could just kill stuff instead

subtle wedge
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that too

wooden briar
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but ye, some way to target them more specificly would be nice, somehow let us create our own prophecies

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the more specific they are, the harder they should be to fullfill or something

subtle wedge
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That would be another option, have a different prophecy for RARE uniques that are harder, or pick an item we want and maybe make it more objectives based on the rarity. Really, rares could be 10 objectives, but at least you're guaranteed to get that item, the same as you would in MG if you were just farming gold to buy the item.

wooden briar
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i think devs want to make sure cof and mg feel different, i dont mind that, cof seems to be alot about loot explosions, and that you get lots of items you wont use but cant sell anyway

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but not letting us filter for specific uniques for example makes this also very tough to handle, trying to look through 20 gloves cause they are the same basetype as my specific one is a waste of time

pastel locust
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^^ this give me specific unique filters

muted token
muted token
# pastel locust ^^ this give me specific unique filters

While you can't have specific uniques, you CAN still filter for uniques by using a combination of the following:

Example item: Prismatic Gaze

Rarity Filter: Unique
Level Filter: 59 (Since the level requirement is 60)
Item Type: Bronze Casque (since that's the base type of Prismatic Gaze)

Since we're filtering for all 3; Prismatic gaze if the only unique that has that base item type, with that level requirement (the only other bronze casque above that level is a set item, which won't be shown anyway)

I get that it's a lot more work. It would be nice if they did indeed put the specific uniques in so we didn't have to do all this work.

Hopefully this helps

muted token
wooden briar
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I'm doing that, but some items have same level req and are same base

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but ive reached 1000c as melee bladedancer, only way forward would be to get lp3-4 items, im not sure I want to farm that, especially since its a harbinger only item, wall of nothing. current meta seems to be to farm those beacon echoes and quit out half way through

muted token
potent eagle
low glacier
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molten sentinel
solid seal
mint finch
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why is gaining favor so slow this league in cof

hazy elm
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cause devs think we have too much favor to spend

mint finch
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I feel like I barely have any prophecies, I'm almost lvl 100 and still not even lvl 12 so it's feeling massively inneffecient, last season it felt a lot better in terms of how much/how fast you gained favor.

hazy elm
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people asked and they literally said that "we are used to astronomical amount of favor from 1,0" while in 1,0 people who had insane favor are only 2k+ cor grinders, while people who complain abt favor now are people who sit on 300 cor

mint finch
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if they're balancing favor gain around people in 2k+ corr no wonder it feels garbage for the rest of us

solid seal
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They balance around corruption level 300.

hazy elm
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well all we can do is write feedback posts in ⁠feedback-forums but ngl it does feel sh*tty, and prophecies are very stupid too. some are straight up ineffeicient and you would never want to pick them ever

mint finch
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do you start getting more favor when you hit lvl 100?

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yea, frankly 90% of the prophecies are bad and I spend more favor rerolling them than anything

solid seal
hazy elm
livid spruce
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I kinda prefer having favor be not so common, rolling prophs is annoying lol. Love the double double lenses to make them cost way more so I have to do less, too.

hazy elm
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well double use/bonus are the only lenses that are worth something, others barely do anything efficiency wise

livid spruce
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Yeah, all the others only reduce the rerolls you need to do

hazy elm
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ya but the reduction is so small that it doesnt matter

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its a strange system, numbers are way off there

livid spruce
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matters a lot in some cases, like trying to get specific proph types

solid seal
livid spruce
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weapons and idols are a pain to get

hazy elm
solid seal
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my guy, they literally nerf the xp% modifier starting at 300 corruption then completely tank it at 1000 corruption.

hazy elm
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there wasnt one time since corruprion system was introduced to the game where game was even remotely balanced around 300 cor

hazy elm
livid spruce
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tbff, they kinda succeeded a little bit this time with the favor changes

hazy elm
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nice balance, more speed meta to the game 👍

hazy elm
mint finch
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I'm really, really struggling to get the correct affixes on the correct bases. Even just T6.

Like, I have literally not found a single T6 mana(either one) dragon, gate, or crystal staff.. in almost 100 levels of grinding. Nvm T7. I got lucky and found a T6 mana regen on temple staff, but that's like, the lowest prio out of all of them. It's hella frustrating.

Then even if you get it, you still have to get lucky with your crafting on top of that.

I've found a single armor with T7 meteor, and it was on a terrible base. I'm bout to hit lvl 100 and am using a yellow ring still because I just can't find rolls on the correct bases I need for my build. Amulets I've only found a single T7 mana, on the wrong base, and with a dead prefix on top of that because bad luck.

Most of my prophecies I'm using for unique body armor, trying to get just an unstable core with a single LP.. like, I've gotten 12 of them or something, all 0 LP, and every single one got random bs instead of an LP from the harbingers. It's hella frustrating because I feel like I've just been using the same bad gear since lvl 75 and literally just don't get enough prophecies atm to get through the bad RNG. It's supposed to be almost a 30% chance for 1LP with the bonus, but I've yet to get a single unstable core that has 1 LP, EVEN USING the league mechanic, at almost lvl 100? It's insane.

AND THEN I STILL HAVE TO GET LUCKY ON THE 25% SLAM!

hazy elm
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but regardless of top 1% of players, i have yet to hear casuals or newer players that sit on 100-200 cor that they feel good about favor or faction progress, so far what ive seen is vastly negative feedback in that section

solid seal
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neither faction are going to feel good at 100-200 corr this cycle or even last cycle. The changes though have made it better this cycle.

livid spruce
hazy elm
hazy elm
mint finch
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Yea atm it just doesn't feel good. Like I should be chasing upgrades at this point, but I'm still trying to desperately get CORE items

livid spruce
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Speed will always be meta in some flavor or another

solid seal
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last meta, you literally rerolled echo webs farming tomes near the center until your corruption was high enough where killing monsters gave more experience (which was around 300 corruption). Then you spammed the same echo repeatedly for experience or mages.

hazy elm
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also why 1lp amulter prophecy even exists? nobody checked numbers on that. You would never want to take that even if you are farming for 100lpl items

hazy elm
mint finch
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If I were to make a merchant guild char, I could get my core items in a couple of days and then be focusing on upgrades/perfect rolls. COF I can't even get my basic, core items going before hitting lvl 100

solid seal
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you get lower favor in echoes above 300 corruption, below that, it's unchanged. It takes less experience this cycle to get 1 favor than last cycle

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but you get fewer tome xp which made up the majority of your xp gains in 1.0

mint finch
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it's definitely slower. You can't target farm favor by going for EXP tomes anymore, either, since they were neutered AND their fame gain was neutered

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they needed a huge boost in how much favor you get through regular gameplay if they weren't happy with the targeted XP tome farming to keep the speed equal/consistent. As is, it's literally like 1/4 the progress it was the first season around

livid spruce
solid seal
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yes, and as I said, they reduced the amount of xp needed to earn the favor. At area/character levels 95 and rank 12, it's like 490 xp per favor. It used to be 750 xp per favor

mint finch
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it would also help a huge amount of I didn't have to spend half my favor rerolling trash prophecies over and over

hazy elm
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but why? who are they nerfing and why, thats what i dont understand, if they want to nerf players nerf builds, making things more tedious instead of weaker feels 10x times worse

solid seal
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you complain about tedium but also complain about the speed meta. Pick a lane pls.

hazy elm
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???

solid seal
hazy elm
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how those two are even related, if things are speedy doesnt meant its not tedious

mint finch
livid spruce
hazy elm
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does anyone actually think that cof on 300 cor is good? if devs really balanbced the game around 300 cor they need to make it feel good first and only AFTER that care for top 1% that farms 1k+, while ehg is doing everything backwards

solid seal
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use a body armour lens... expected rerolls drops like 20% (3.3 rerolls to 2.5 rerolls)

livid spruce
hazy elm
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😏

livid spruce
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It's obviously way weaker than MG, but that doesn't bother be because it's fun and I can always pick whichever I'm in the mood for given a particular cycle

hazy elm
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to me its clunky and kinda sludge, mainly cause of favor gain and prophecy system, the reroll 2 second animation is awful, the numbers on cost/efficiency are way off, lenses are kinda weird

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wish they just made prophecy in a list mode, without all these flashy constelations, you just press button and get a table, then reroll with 1 click and no delay

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like it looks cool for first couple hours and gets boring/tedious after

mint finch
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eh, with how little favor you get that's really such a minor complaint, I just want to actually be able to interact with the prophecies a bit more instead of spending half my favor rerolling and a week without getting a single useable item

hazy elm
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or delete reroll system alltogether, just make it prophecy "shop" u come in and buy as many propheciues that u need as u want

mint finch
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it'll probably feel a bit better when I get lvl 12 and the double rewards, but until then holy hell is it just not good

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It'd be nice if you could target farm specific bases, though, for purple prophecies. Getting the correct T6/T7 affixes on the correct base is a nightmare for cof.

hazy elm
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also did devs ever explained why we have campaign prophecies, since the faction system is unlocked only in act 9 so you will not have it while leveling. is for alts/future?

solid seal
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On alts, you can access your unlocked faction in Act 1.

hazy elm
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ya that is true but on alts you have twinked gear and dungeon skips, are they really expecting us to do prophecies on our twinks

solid seal
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you have twinked gear and campaign skips. You can do monoliths starting when you reach end of time (level 20 or taxi). The hardest part of Lightless Arbor at level 20 is getting a key to do it. You don't even need twink gear to do that dungeon

mint finch
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I'd personally rather never do campaign, since the area level is so low. Arena i hate w/ a passion as well, so I avoid those.

The other dungeons can be ok, but their design w/ the mazes can also be annoying so sometimes it's just not fun running them if you aren't looking for a specific boss unique.

Most of the generic "kill boss" or "kill unit type" prophecies are great, and most monos are great, but it can also be annoying when you get a bunch of prophecies for a useless timeline, of which there are a few, and it means you have to put farming a useful timeline on pause.

hazy elm
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no, my point is that on our fist character we wont even have factions in campaign. so there is no point for camp prophecies there, and for 2nd character we do have factions but its already has starting gear and has all the keys to skip and start monos fast, so campaign prophecy is useless in that case too. Overall it looks like pointless addition to the game that brings nothing but clutter in the roll pool

mint finch
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yea, that's probably it's point. Though idk why they need to clutter the roll pool for prophecies so much

solid seal
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I think you would have a point if those bosses were in the earliest acts, but act 8 or 9 bosses when you get access to factions in act 9 is not really an issue here

mint finch
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I get the point and why clutter rolls exist in most cases, but they seem pointless in prophecies specifically and I'd rather just not have them

hazy elm
solid seal
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Liath has a waypoint in her room. Majasa has a short run. Both can be repeated by simply resetting the room (tp to town then back is quick).

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As for useless timelines, Glyph of Envy now exists and can be used to get you to the minimum stability to do the timeline boss. Unlocking the harbinger crest makes "Death of [Timeline Boss]" events/rewards cyclable. Start boss encounter, kill boss, collect targeted items on ground that were filtered to show, leave instance instead of killing harbinger, repeat. You get charged 50 stability for starting the encounter. The remaining stability is charged when you complete the echo, which is when the Harbinger dies when the Harbinger Crest is active. It's just like last cycle, but for every boss with the harbinger crest unlocked instead of just Abom/Formosus.

potent eagle
muted token
solid seal
muted token
solid seal
# muted token There we have it. So both the "below level" as well as the "above level" paramet...

The "Level" condition will filter on the level required by the item. The item generation rules just happen to use that level requirement on the item to determine minimum area level it can drop randomly in. Prophecies and Rune of Ascendance crafting ignores level requirement when generating the item, allowing you to obtain those items before reaching their minimum area level to randomly drop.

muted token
frosty pelican
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Shoutout to @gray ermine on this one, finally put together an explanation of the optimal favor farm for us CoF folks; https://youtu.be/Dcon6vY_lDI

I think Willow Marsh and Ritual Lake are potentially good too depending on your build

hazy elm
potent eagle
wooden briar
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feels a bit weird that farming favor and fullfilling prophecies don't go hand in hand, can't just progress a timeline and find rares in different zones, gain stability, kill boss, do oro, spend favor for prophecies, repeat
obv I could do that, but I would gain very little favor compared to grinding it in beacons this way, thus had less items in the end

potent eagle
wooden briar
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it also depends on the dev's vision alot i guess, if they want to blanace stuff around 300c then neither mg or cof is lacking, both get the job done, so are most builds. I think when it gets higher than that, once you push past 300c get into 1000, see your build start to strain and need those juicy lp items you see mg being better than cof

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ive never played mg, but i imagine their end goal is to farm gold to get the best items, that could invovle optimizing your filter to sell stuff that other peeps want, endgame for cof doesnt seem to be there somehow, you optimize your filter cause otherwise your whole screen is filled with trash i guess

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i like how cof ranks give better quality items like more exalted chance, more t7, more lp uniques etc. but last rank of just more quantity is not it for me, initially the idea of loot explosions sounds fun, but in the end you just hide them anyway. Maybe a more targeted approach is what we need. but that would require a whole rework
for example, you can put a item into some kind of lense, and this give you a 1% chance per rank to drop that item on your next boss kill, higher ranks allow you to put in better and more items, maybe it starts with just rares with 2 affixes, then up to uniques with lp4 highest requirement and favor cost or something, basically giving you magic find% on specific items, one at a time.

potent eagle
# wooden briar it also depends on the dev's vision alot i guess, if they want to blanace stuff ...

True. But as an ARPG’s end game boiling down to min maxing and pushing as far as possible, makes sense to cater to that on some level. With the current system, I don’t think the average player goes past 300-600 range. You sort of hit a wall and feels less rewarding over time knowing you have to farm for hours just to find your targeted unique, with the right LP, and the right exalt with a good T7, just to gamble the slam and likely start over again. The rune to duplicate an exalt helps a bit but as you said, a prophecy to help increase target farming for a unique would be nice. MG can just buy as needed and skip all the farm time, but sure that heavily varies on the item and gold dupe ruining prices impacts that all heavily.

hazy elm
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and abberoth is way harder than 300 cor, i hope they will balance the game around that instead of constantly throwing this 300 cor number

frosty pelican
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It was a lot easier for MG players to down abberoth because they had much better gear on day 3/4 than even the top CoF players

hazy elm
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yep because corruption wise abberoth is on the level of 500-700 cor, not 300, and thats where cof gets behind mg

frosty pelican
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My first attempt at 1HR test of Beacon Warcamp with Frost Claw Sorc - 230K Favor / HR. I think that's a good sign that 300K/hr is possible. My gear isn't "great" or optimized yet but it still felt solid; https://youtube.com/live/jo_DrIwdTwI

solid seal
hazy elm
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more like 600k?

frosty pelican
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that was a bad single target setup doing a single target focused echo

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People during the warcamp beacon were ~800k or more

#

I think this league we might top out at 300k ish, last league probably top out around 1M with a fully optimized speed setup

limber minnow
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Afaik I was the only dude who reached 950k/hr last cycle. But I know a couple others who were around 800k.

I’d say this cycle would be pretty tough to beat 275k/hr avg

hidden temple
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trying to find warcamp beacon is pain

potent eagle
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or do you think 800k/hr is too much

limber minnow
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I personally think an end game build reaching 200k/hr is fine.

outer nacelle
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they made the change so it didnt feel mandatory to run 3k corruption. but in doing so, have nerfed cof prophs at the top end by 60ish%

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this is only if playing like skurge/cole also, the average player doing whatever makes nowhere near this amount

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man i hate how pressing my faction button defaults to harbingers instead of cof. can you change that?

livid spruce
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Yeah, the average player is getting slightly more favor now than they would have last cycle. Bearing in mind that the average player, assuming they unlock item factions, doesn't even reach empowered monoliths. For the typical high end player that actually plays empowered and maybe even maxes out their faction rank, they are getting significantly more than before. The only people that got nerfed are the 0.001% that push the boundaries of the game.

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(and even those that got their favor hit benefit a ton from the new ranks)

snow palm
livid spruce
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and when comparing 1.1 favor gain to 1.0, favor dropoff doesn't really occur until somewhere between 300c and 1kc

livid spruce
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Yeah, especially if it's the actual specific base you want, like "rare bone amulets". The prophs for rares are just so cheap.

potent eagle
livid spruce
potent eagle
outer nacelle
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always grab rares coz its the best bang for buck. (unless the conditions are bad). also you were gonna reroll anyway, so it's a 'free' reroll

potent eagle
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True that

serene raptor
#

Hey, does rank 8 double your drop chance for all LP (for instance the 3.12 *10-32 for 4LP whatever is doubled), or does it just double my chance for 1LP

glad sable
jolly spire
outer nacelle
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yeah

#

i mean it stays on cof, until i exit game. then it defaults back to forgotten knights

azure ice
outer nacelle
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i think it wouldnt annoy enough people for them to bother fixing it.

azure ice
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yeah its definitely wouldnt be high on priority

regal knoll
livid spruce
misty pawn
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do you guys save up a ton of favor and then spend a bunch or like me who spend once i get like 20-30k?

potent eagle
misty pawn
livid spruce
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Until you're rank 12, you want to spend it all as soon as you have enough to rank up by spending to get the next +5% favor boost and rank bonus sooner. After that, doesn't matter, I usually just go for certain things I want to upgrade

misty pawn
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I am at rank 12, and wondering if it is better to get more frequent small explosions or less frequent but bigger explosions

livid spruce
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It makes very little difference really, you can progress multiple prophs with the same condition all at once which is nice, but then also you may need to really tighten your loot filter so your screen doesn't get flooded lol

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I think the meta tactic is to set up some degenerate play loop on a single echo that you never complete, which works better with stacking up tons of prophs at a time, but I always recommend just playing the game normally, it's a lot more fun

solid seal
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I prefer building up favor to purchase a bunch of prophs that can be completed together. Fewer timeline boss kills needed for the same number of prophecies

frosty pelican
outer nacelle
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nice

potent eagle
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@outer nacelle do you run unique wand prophecy for warp farm?

outer nacelle
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yeah

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can also try ascendance any cof wands

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i was slow af this cycle actually, took me 10 days to reach 100

frosty pelican
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sad CoF feels

hazy elm
#

2 things ehg loves:

  1. melee
  2. rep grind
outer nacelle
# frosty pelican sad CoF feels

i dropped a 4lp peak, i'm sure that's more satisfying than buying a 4lp peak. well that's what i tell myself to make me feel better

frosty pelican
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poggers, true

misty pawn
outer nacelle
misty pawn
restive sparrow
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if a prophecy says monolith 300 corruption can it be higher or does it have to be exactly 300?

solid seal
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They can be done in higher areas. Tier/Corruption requirements are minimums. Similarly, rewards with Weavers Will and Legendary Potential are also minimums.

restive sparrow
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weird i have a kill mages @ 300 corruption but im currenlty @ 400 and have slain multiple and not gotten the profecy completed yet

solid seal
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if you look at the prophecy event, there is a number on the icon. You need to kill that many mages for the prophecy to drop the rewards

regal knoll
potent eagle
outer nacelle
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fun fact, i dropped a 4lp adult ladle last cycle and it never got used becuase i never found a exalt that was worthy

crimson obsidian
jolly spire
sick bluff
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for the level 12 reputation, does it work also on prophecies that you already have ?

frosty pelican
oblique flaxBOT
#
Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (64) / Runemaster (29)

General:

▸ Health: 1,084, Regen: 27.13/s
▸ Mana: 1,651.17, Regen: 23.43/s
▸ Ward Retention: 646%, Regen: 217/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 21 Dex / 151 Int / 16 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 122% / 68% / 120% / 108% / 55% / 67% / 67%
▸ EHP: 2,888 / 2,343 / 2,499 / 3,029 / 2,888 / 2,118 / 2,118

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 217
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (114)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,329)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Arcane Ascendance (20)
• Teleport (20)
• Focus (20)
• Static Orb (22)
• Frost Claw (21)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Unstable Core
• Wrongwarp
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Orian's Eye
• Stormcarved Testament

sick bluff
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So i can spend favor to get to 12, then it would technically work on the prophecies i get ?

frosty pelican
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That's the ideal strat. Wait until you have 0.5x favor per remaining rep until 12 then spend all

sick bluff
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0.5 not 1 per ?

frosty pelican
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No 1 favor spent gives 2 rep

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This season I saved all favor until R10 when I hit level 100, then spent it all straight to R12

sick bluff
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Oh that's good to know, thanks a lot !

potent eagle
frosty pelican
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I think RR + Midnight ring is BiS for echo tbh

potent eagle
frosty pelican
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Tbh I only planned on making 1 of them but RNG is weird sometimes, will be good for future builds lol

potent eagle
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The best kind of RNG. Even got the Orions too. Must be nice 😄

misty pawn
frosty pelican
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Aiming for 300k+

rain bolt
misty pawn
outer nacelle
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Yeah they had better gear than mine in 2-3 days

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At the start when the market was fresh, stuff was cheap and lots of people playing. Now it's not so good

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Granted they are pro players playing long hours and super efficient. I'm a casual dad gamer and can play 3 hours a night maybe

misty pawn
outer nacelle
scarlet wing
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wow

green spade
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Is the difference in favor gain much noticeable the higher you push corruption? Or is there a point of diminishing returns?

livid spruce
indigo zodiac
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Is it a 1/3 chance to get any arena boss or are they weighted somehow? I've had wolfram 13 times with only 4 arsenals

whole hornet
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stupid question. on what corner is shield missions ?

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that new shield weapon

muted willow
whole hornet
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o thx

livid spruce
mellow coyote
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I just found out if you switch you lose all your favour :/

snow palm
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only real gamers chose COF rest lames

snow palm
solid seal
mellow coyote
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Some of us can't read

hazy elm
frosty pelican
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min-maxers go brrrrrr

gray ermine
gray ermine
frosty pelican
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I think my issue with the build I have is the delay on spark charges, I often attack more than I need to

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need to get used to how much damage you will do and move on

gray ermine
frosty pelican
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I think you just slowly deplete mana then tap focus right? Or do you use LB, seems clunky without cast speed

gray ermine
outer nacelle
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i randomly have a 3lp tribo

gray ermine
outer nacelle
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have you tried the build out yet?

frosty pelican
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I am not sure if the coverage will be enough though to reach the far monsters for xp

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for me I can click a pack at edge of screen and it dies, then click other edge and it dies, all while zooming

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if you are giga fast it might compensate though

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but with tribo you lose the WW speed so idk, but you gain a proper tp if you want

gray ermine
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still need to test, will prob be last month of cycle cause alpha for another game I'm interested in soon

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also might scale well with + AoE?

frosty pelican
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tbh I am kinda thinking pure FC without static could be interesting

gray ermine
frosty pelican
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I'm only rocking 142 int in that video and FC carries hard, with 220 int it would be nuts

gray ermine
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u want to avoid hardcasting as much as possible, automated killing + mobility if possible

frosty pelican
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yeah for sure but if you get enough cast speed and only need 1 click once per screen or so it's close to automated

gray ermine
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or I guess u would just rely on max MS if running Wrongwarp

frosty pelican
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Ladle might win for pure FC

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real teleport + 50% more damage, plus over 100% free cast speed

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Also is Kestrel still bugged? lol

gray ermine
outer nacelle
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What's bugged with it?

frosty pelican
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it used to not give MS or haste effect when I tried it for a zoomy FC last league

gray ermine
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oh idk about the haste effect or MS specifically though

hazy elm
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are rank 3 idols not class based? or its some offline bug i keep getting rank 3 proccs with different class idol drops

solid seal
hazy elm
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im talking about the instance when it procs and drops 2 additional idols and yes they get faction req

solid seal
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oh, yea, the Faction Rank 3 benefit just drops 2 additional random idols, not guaranteed to be class specific or even the same type of idol as the one that generated the benefit

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I thought you were talking about stout lagonian idols, which unlock at rank 3

hazy elm
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yeee useless rank, idk why they made it that way

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maybe gonna ask devs

whole hornet
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im on lvl 11 fortune . if i take missions before like to get more level up and start making missions after lvl 12 fortune ? then my lvl 11 missions get lvl 12 double loot bonus to ?

wraith hazel
gray ermine
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@frosty pelican LOL I didn't realize u were using Flames of Midnight, glad to see I wasn't wrong about it being universally useful... You're even slotting Disintegrate just to be able to summon the spirit lmao

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I was thinking about going Flame Rush + TP on Sorc

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That new setup does also look insane for clearing in general, but my goal is still to clear the screen w/o stopping movement xD

frosty pelican
gray ermine
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haha yeah I think maybe the ring needs a serious looking at, my immediate thought was "completely broken nerf tier"

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Unless they want turbo zoom meta, seems to be a bit of a theme this cycle in general

frosty pelican
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I don't think it's completely broken beyond a super niche case where you can basically give up stats on a ring slot

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It's like RR without stats, and if it wasn't for WW the MS wouldn't do much either

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If they didn't do the corr xp changes it wouldn't be s tier I reckon

gray ermine
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Actually gives decent ward gen if specced Wandering Spirits

frosty pelican
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How does it work with skills that have both elements

gray ermine
frosty pelican
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But does it spend them both at the same time?

gray ermine
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tied to evade cd, so I can proc both elements with fissure and TP twice in a row every 4s, or once every 2s, with the same button, it feels super fluid/non intrusive especially due to how Fissure functions

gray ermine
frosty pelican
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Ah this is good then. That was my worry

gray ermine
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It's absolutely insane for doing dungeons as well, can skip barriers, walls (even in most cases where there's a change in elevation)

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I use it to jump the wall and hit that one mage spawn on the far west side of the map if it's up

frosty pelican
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Oh trust me I know about the dungeons been using it for slams for a while now

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The wall bypass basically never fails too

gray ermine
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yeah it's really absurd and the potential mobility factor probably should be toned down a bit

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it'll become one of those things that's pseudo mandatory for basically everyone if they want to be time efficient

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and I like this stuff, it's actually fun and feels really good, I just think it might be a bit too strong in its current state

frosty pelican
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I don't think the item is too strong, I think it just slots in too perfectly to the current set of builds and meta

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It indicates bigger issues beyond the item

gray ermine
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the mobility itself is problematic in the context of the game

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not really a meta thing, but heh

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it's just weird to have 1 item that's basically mandatory for any form of speedrunning