⭕┃circle-of-fortune

[inner pelican]

I'll still disagree here and say that with the rank 12 change the breakeven point is actually when 1.1 exp (scaled w/ rank bonus) is equal to 50% of 1.0 exp.

That puts it around 1400, which may be close (or even past) the upper limit now

[frosty pelican]

I don't follow. When I say breakeven I mean the corruption where your increased favor gain is equal in 1.1 vs 1.0. Where does 50% come from?

[livid spruce]

Why 50%?

[frosty pelican]

That would be "breakhalf" not "breakeven", no? Heh

[gilded lark]

this is mostly a buff

[fathom pike]

ye ik it just feels less exciting

having 2 chances for your legendary was nice

[gilded lark]

actually it's now with this change that you have two chances for your legendary. Before you rolled once and got either 2 or 0

If you need 1, this is a huge increase to the consistency

[hidden temple]

there is high corruption favor gain nerf. so we will get less prophecies and no duplication.

[fresh pivot]

These problems are the reason that I did cry about Tuesday cycle starts since bots farm 24/7 anyway while I’m still at work -_- so I can blast at the weekend when the problem is already efficiently generating and distributing currency, and feel the need to switch to cof

[frosty glade]

Yea i already hate the feeling with POE, if im not playing efficiently for the first couple of days, I KNOW its gonna bite me later

[fresh pivot]

One day your item is 4 mil gold and over night when the shady sellers gain power you wake up to same item 80mil gold and a couple hours farming turned into 40 50 hour farming if unlucky

[frosty glade]

exactly

[fresh pivot]

Depending on your lootfilter also heavily that is one of the biggest skillchecks of merchants… not for lucky drops but to remove rng of the dry streaks of bad loot

[regal knoll]

Boss drop is to a minimal % of builds(specially after ward nerf), because they are about their specific items, so nah. I was in 1600 corruption, not super high like Skurge and Frost, but I could get 500k favor in no time... And if it's -25% in 1k, gonna be like -60%+ in 1.6k. And btw, those ----- are already counting with 60% increased from ranking, since 1k+ have VERY low add to favor gain.

[frosty pelican]

at 2k corruption you get 38% of the XP vs 1.0 assuming rank 12 CoF

[limber minnow]

This is my reality. Knowing that rmt/botting/(duping sometimes) exists is lame from a competitive standpoint. I’m thankful there is visible CoF tag on builds. So if I can’t beat the MG players on ladder I can cope at night knowing at least I was legit.

[fathom pike]

That's why I just play ssf so I'm on a separate ladder from MG guys

[limber minnow]

Part of me wants to stay on SF ladder. But if you have to do a whole single click to filter for it. So a lot of people don’t even know it exists.

[fresh pivot]

that will not happen ... valve has proven that gamers dont look upwards in theyre games like portal ^^ there are unwritten habbits that prevail

[livid spruce]

Bold to assume they've even clicked to open the ladder in the first place

[fresh pivot]

wasnt there even a poll since people cried ( tied to leaderboard )

[inner pelican]

From rank 12 change being unique dupes instead of ideantical

[lone slate]

what are the best ssf starters for the next patch?

[hazy elm]

there is too many builds that are good'

[regal knoll]

FG minions, Sorc meteor, sorc disintegrate...

[lone slate]

people play disintegrate?

isnt that the beam skill where you have to stand still

[limber minnow]

glacier sorc, also the best finisher as well

[lament shale]

Yea, the good thing about Mana stacking sorcerer builds being a meta build in v1.1 is that mana is a common affix, so you can easily find it on a lot of gear, unlike affixes like cast speed or even intelligence

[frosty pelican]

Yeah it's going to be easy to swap between solid sorc builds in 1.1

[upbeat cobalt]

Hmmm but boring

[waxen pond]

im sure it will be fine, there's tons of ways to do this, like not spawning them near where the player spawns, or not spawning them if you didnt complete the last mono you entered.

[fathom axle]

Is COF better to learn the game than merchants guild? Since you can’t buy all your gear? Or is it not that important?

[tiny sluice]

thats how i did it. in my opinion yes

[azure ice]

So im COF, but my friend who is new to the genre is MG. MG is better for new players because once you have a high enough faction rank you can just buy gear from the auction house.

[fathom axle]

yea I can imagine it is easier, but the question was which faction is better for learning the game mechanics. Like endgame, crafting etc. And I imagine COF is better in that respect since you are forced to engage with the systems rather than just buying everything with gold.

[winter shadow]

what system do you think COF players have to engage with that MG players dont?

MG players still have to craft their asses off

or doing slams

you dont just go into the bazaar and buy the exact thing you need

[azure ice]

In that regards COF will be better for sure.

[fathom axle]

Well thats why I asked in the first place. Im a new player and that was my assumption after watching a couple of yt guides^^

[arctic seal]

i think cof will be better for LP hunting when coupled with new nemesis crafting system

MG usually dies down after a month

[winter shadow]

COF if you want longevity

MG if you want to jump straight into action

[river mason]

To learn you need to try lots of things out and see what works and what doesn't. For that MG is far better.

[limber minnow]

CoF>MG

[pine cairn]

Im actually still cant decide if MG or COF is better for me, i have new work which will take majority of my free time, i tried both in 1.0 and COF was my main faction, but i feel like since i want to play mostly one character MG should be better right? but then in 1.0 there were a lot of gold dupers, market prices skyrocketing so high i could only look at the items i want, so im still in the middle 😦

[hazy elm]

as a working person who cant play more than 4h per day on best days, go mg trust. Just play only one build and keep up with meta selling

[zinc ore]

so with just about 2 weeks of time to play and the intent of going for mana stacking sorc (probably)... would you go for COF or MG?
seems like people say cof is only for people who will play a long time and mg is for a "quick season" but considering the build being (probably) meta, the items might be very expensive so i won't even get them on trade

[zinc ore]

i guess that answers my question too...

[hazy elm]

yep just look at what timeline boss loot sells for most thats the most important thing if u cant play a lot, farm the timeline that has deterministic boss drops that sell for a lot and make money that way

[zinc ore]

actually didnt think about the boss drops as the items for sorc all seem to be just "random drops" this cycle. ty

[pine cairn]

did you play the whole 1.0 in mg? how prices were changing? last time i checked ( quite some time ago ) items were selling for 0 gold so i couldnt even make gold to buy stuff that was overpriced cuz of dupers

[river mason]

You shouldn't think of MG as farming for gold to buy items, since item drop way less for everyone vs cof. Instead MG is like a swap meet where you trade unused items for useful ones. In this sense the inflation doesn't matter, because if there's a gold dupe, your rare drops also cost millions. At the end it just enables you to swap your rare drops that you don't need for ones that you do.

[pine cairn]

i see, but is it true that MG dies of pretty fast? i read that somewhere here earlier

[hazy elm]

ye i played only on mg with 1 cof alt. but you have to understand that prices are a bit irrelivant, the core of LE trading is that you find op item, sell it and for that money u buy another op item, with 1.1 itll be better cause cross fingers we wont have bug abusing. So you have to deterministically farm expensive items, which is possible in LE

[hazy elm]

1.5 month, meta items die fast but offmeta items stay for more than 2 months

so it depends on what build u are playing highly

[river mason]

Depends on what you need. There are still pages and pages of 0 cost 0lp uniques

[hazy elm]

also dont list any items for 0 gold

ever

thats the dummest decision that came from misinformation to new players

[pine cairn]

so you are saying after some time the meta items just will be not in the market right?

[pine cairn]

at least i know that haha

[hazy elm]

ya after 1 month meta dries out

there will alwyas be items, just very scarce

[copper valley]

why tho i haven't tried MG is there some kind of tax?

[hazy elm]

why would u give out items for free if u can make money?

[copper valley]

fair point

[hazy elm]

😏

[crisp totem]

Hi, new player, what's the main diff between the 2 factions? Prob going CoF since I heard everyone going that

[river mason]

There will still be there, like red rings, it's just that they all cost 1.5 billion and you need to find other meta items to afford them

[pine cairn]

so COF after new "buff" with bosses drop their loot twice as much or smth like that its not important and its still better to use MG for a guy who has one/two free days in a week and 1/2h between sleep and work

[hazy elm]

you probably heard wrong, cof is for people who dont like trading, mg is for people who love op items

[copper valley]

cof is like ssf but you can trade with your friends while you droped some item in party

if you have an item for it*

[hazy elm]

well that is a hard question to answer, depends on your expectations, if its full t7 exalts and 1lp items its MG imo

but you can do it on cof too

[pine cairn]

but isnt that the vicious circle since MG is dying after 1,5month into season, so if you want to buy smth rare you need to find smth rare but then there might be not a lot of players that can actually buy that item from you?

[river mason]

If you have little time I would go MG, it's better to be able to play a starter build with 0lp uniques than never seeing the unique you need at all

[river mason]

If you are talking meta items they will always be bought

[crisp totem]

So if you can play a lot CoF better?

[pine cairn]

i see, thanks guys ❤️

[river mason]

For sure

[hazy elm]

thats highly debatable

1.0 proved that its not

[copper valley]

it all comes to your playstyle

[river mason]

If you can spend 12 hours a day grinding you will run out of stuff to buy in MG

[hazy elm]

what happened in 1.0 is that cof folks had to grind 2-3k corruption for 1-2 months to get same level of power that people got on week 1 mg

it was proven on several builds

and now top end of cof was gutted with favor changes

[lyric grotto]

well the way i see it is you have a good chance to get what you need with CoF, whereas with MG it's guaranteed as you can just buy it

[copper valley]

you can either try your rng with drops or farm gold and just buy it on the market

[river mason]

MG is especially good for niche build items that you need particular rolls for.

[crisp totem]

You can do both if you have more than one character?

[lyric grotto]

for alts i would always recommend MG as you can just straight up buy the uniques you need

[modern iris]

ye. im not sure MG is good if you are playing meta build with low time investment. you simply will not keep up with prices

and they buffed boss drops so

[stark pumice]

Hey do you guys know a good Loot Filter for CoF? like seeing all good idols etc?

[next cape]

I mean it depends on what you're playing. There's generically good items to have on your loot filter like double health idols etc or health resistance but class specific ones you would ideally tailor to your build

[regal knoll]

Mishaaaa, this is CoF channel, stop hijacking our players 🤣

IMO playing both factions only works if you are main MG. Because you do some CoF alt, make lvl 12 faction, do prophecies for runes(specially that one that makes unique items) and glyphs.

[wraith hazel]

The few whales who want everything after a week need some people to feed them ofc ^^

[muted mango]

cof better then other

[wraith hazel]

Same as in IRL

[regal knoll]

Noooo, Misha is a nice guy, he doesn't mean ill.

[bitter dawn]

I was mainly CoF in season 1 but hard really hard time trying to finish my build because bosses wouldn't drop 2lp or couldn't target farm in monoliths for specific unique. Will the same problem exist to a similar extent? or is merchants guild the way to go if I don't have crazy hours to spend

feels like target farming should give you a window with 3 random uniques to choose from

instead of 1 random unique that drops. The probability is just really low to target farm

[regal knoll]

Target farm will be better, for bosses in new cycle.

[bitter dawn]

good to hear

what about unique nodes spread across monoliths?

like gloves

[regal knoll]

CoF now got 150% chance for bosses specific drops.

Those are same

[bitter dawn]

😦

[regal knoll]

But that isn't the best way to target farm

If u need specific item in CoF, u need to spam that prophecy.

[bitter dawn]

yea I did mix of both

CoF prophecy and target farm if I don't have points

still the odds are really low I think

because of the # of different uniques for one armor location

it would be interesting if the unique nodes in monoliths gives you a choice to pick out of the 2 ~ 3 random drops tho

I once got like 5 of the same gloves that I didn't need

[regal knoll]

Hehe, normal

[bitter dawn]

given that they had higher drop rate because of low lvl requirement

[muted mango]

nemesis ganna help allot to get big juicy items

[exotic glade]

is the new faction also solo self found like this faction ? or solo self found character cant use it

[copper valley]

everyone is new faction

[regal knoll]

New faction is despite any faction you choose.

[crimson obsidian]

Thankfully the new Nemesis system with the egg will allow you to reroll a drop (As long as it has no LP, which will be the vast majority of your uniques anyway), so if you are lucky enough to get exactly the item you need, but the stats are bad, you at least get two (!) chances to make it better. Assuming you live through the Nemesis fight... twice.

[flat mica]

Hm I lost all my COF progression and all favor after the patch. Now I'm standing there with a unusable char because most of my items need COF progression. Is this a bug or intended?

Ah I was able to merge my cycle 1.0 stash, now the ranks are there but favor is still missing. Well, at least I have a playable char.

[latent coral]

anyone can help me to tp to observatory pls ?

[regal knoll]

Guys, 150% of drop chance for boss specific items is OP

[arctic seal]

is is 1.5x multiplier?

[signal iris]

Gg still same favor cost

[regal knoll]

Y, check "item-showcase" channel

I got a screen there

[mellow nacelle]

anyone aldy in COF guild can tp me there please?

[gray ermine]

My RNG today has been NUTS lol

still think it's gonna be pure pain later, but fun so far

[mellow nacelle]

taxi to CoF please?

[brittle trench]

I would also like a taxi, need the WP 😛

[mellow nacelle]

m2 s i can lvl CoF 😦

[versed knot]

hey can anybody share the way-point to the fraction pleas?

[mellow nacelle]

im waitng for someone as well.

[vapid blaze]

I’ve ran into this as well. Not sure why they went with this approach. Now we have to rank up in CoF before we could use existing gear 🤔

[rose mesa]

anyone can help getting to CoF please?

[gray ermine]

PSA Empower ur rares starting at normal monos, hitting insane T7 items already

[sinful atlas]

Am I reading this right, if you skip act 8/9 you can't start faction rep?

[pine cairn]

where did you read that

[sinful atlas]

doesn't the faction "quest" start in A9?

[pine cairn]

you can just skip act 8, do one main story mission in A9 and on the second one you unlock it

[inner moon]

i'll trade 1 or 2 gold if anyone taxi's me to CoF

[tired thistle]

was there some kind of change to skip to npc or nay ? didnt read patchnotes

or whats the fastest way to get to merchant

[twin edge]

would anyone be so kind to taxi to cof please 🙂

[winter current]

are prophecies broken for anyone else? Anytime I accept one, it takes my favor, rolls a new set, but leaving the UI I don't have it and the favor is refunded, but the reroll still happens

[regal mauve]

can anyone give me cof tp please?

[rose glacier]

Can anyone give me a port to COF?

[torpid finch]

Can anyone give me a tp to COF? Thanks

[celest marsh]

where is the COF located at? ive been playing 5 hours still havent foudn it

[tired thistle]

act 9

[desert mason]

anyone giving out ports to CoF right now?

[crystal herald]

LF port to observatory pls

[pliant totem]

You get the port by leveling through the campaign to act 9 like the rest of us

[woven ice]

If you need a Merchant or COF Waypoint Taxi please DM me in game IGN: FateofDeath, I'm jumping off in 10 min for the night

[hoary musk]

I lost several 100k worth of favor due to my char now being legacy. Merging the stash restored the ranks, but not the favor. Is there a way to get my favor back?

[copper valley]

someone with waypoint to Cof?

[lost hollow]

Nope, by design, else you could funnel favor to previous legacy chars from cycles

[glacial sluice]

can anyone give me a quick tp to baazar please i return the favor game name: jimshooter123

[arctic relic]

Anyone else got problems with prophecies? I acquired two prophecies. On the first the quest did not complete. On the second the quest got completed but my Prophecy list shows something completely different and only one of the two.

[sour plaza]

wait COF reset level? I cant equip my items T_T

[river dust]

can some friendly gamer please give me act9 wp ?

[gleaming mirage]

I thought funneling your cycle stuff to legacy was the point?

[azure obsidian]

anyone free to give a ride to CoF?

[unique jay]

So my reputation got reset with CoF (legacy), can’t wear any equipment now, basically unusable character. Anybody knows the fix by any chance?

Nevermind I found it in known bugs, seems like it’s a feature, kind of wild

[misty oasis]

I totally can understand the decision with favor earned on one cycle character. Your legacy characters could have already earned favor on their own and that rank was seperate playtime & server than cycle & favor was introduced with cycle so makes sense to me

[split summit]

And here I am not understanding why legacy characters have access to the new content after a week, then why creating cycle characters?

[wraith hazel]

Because many of us want a new game experience

[pure vessel]

anyone available for a COF waypoint Creepur is name iof so

[frozen loom]

Absolutely. Only thing that kept me playing D3 (and probably D4) is the seasonal model and playing a different class or two every season. It took a little while to get used to but I'm now convinced it's the way to do these things. Learning and optimizing a new build is the fun for me... but also, time invested is very real. I might know that starting a new build is fun... but if I have a 100-hour character, I'm probably going to keep using them, and that loop just ends in getting bored even though there are absolutely new things to do.

I do it in Destiny too... play for a few weeks, take some time off, and then when a new season/event/whatever happens, I'll load up a different class and get them caught up. Most important progress is shared, but it mixes things up enough to keep me from getting bored.

[mint river]

anyone able to help me with COF waypoint? IGN is Nevr

[ornate moat]

How’s everyone liking CoF in the new update

[torpid finch]

Anyone available to port me to COF please? IGN darkconz

[tender prairie]

can someone give me ride to COF?

[viral stirrup]

me tpp!

me too* ign name Bluevvirus

[candid quest]

Samee in dire need of a tp

[golden stag]

Is there any reason to play online if I'm going to run a COF character? Thinking of playing offline to avoid server BS but want to make sure I'm not missing something

[viral stirrup]

cof can be usefull also in coop

you can trade cof items to ppl with cof if you play with them or have resonance

[safe sparrow]

so on a fresh char, people get tp to majasa to start the favor grind for CoF earlier?

[viral stirrup]

yup. thats why i want a tp so badly. XD

but if you alrady did sign to either of those you can get them in 1 town too

[fading hornet]

can anyone taxi me to cof?

[elder osprey]

can anybody taxi to cof?

[glad forge]

Can you get taxi'd to CoF if you havent gotten to the last chapter?

[elder osprey]

can anybody taxi to cof?

[tawdry sorrel]

Anyone can taxi me to COF? IGN: Simurgh1

[olive wyvern]

Looking for taxy to COF. IGN: Onybic

[elder osprey]

Can anybody Taxi to COF please? Ign: YamiYamm

[frozen loom]

I promised my wife that I wouldn't level without her while she's at work, but I figured I could get CoF sorted. Can anyone portal me? Looks like the cool kids call it a taxi? 😁
Handle is Thilus

[candid quest]

Hiii need a taxi to cof 🥹 ign: Ventus

[pure vessel]

Taxi to cof please ign: Creepur

[elder osprey]

If anybody needs taxi IGN: YamiYamm

[olive wyvern]

anyone wants taxi to COF dm me ingame : Onybic

[quasi shell]

LF toxi to COF/ ign: SamuelLJackson

[glad forge]

LF taxi to COF too, ign: randomocity

[weary moth]

LF Taxi to COF ign: ItssTuck

[broken venture]

Are taxis actually needed in Cycle? I'm playing with legacy and when I made a new legacy character, to snag the Veteran boots, both faction heads were in Keeper's Camp.

[olive wyvern]

yeah you keep your progress in legacy, when starting in cycle you need to go through it

[broken venture]

Ah so they're not at the camp in Cycle. Fair enough.

[olive wyvern]

yea unfortunately factions are really far into campaign

[urban saffron]

LF Taxi to COF pls ign: Eyori

[olive wyvern]

cannot find you ingame mate, w me, ign: Onybic

[pseudo idol]

I've been trying for a Harbinger of Stars, build enabling unique belt.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCYA5KA

Should I stay in Fall of the Empire Monolith or push further and come back in Empowered Fall of the Empire?
I've also been using all of my Rune of Ascendance on Noble Sash base belt and spending all of my CoH currency for unique belt prophecies, can't do much more, right?

[livid spruce]

Empowered is where you fully unlock the ability to target farm, so definitely push onward, and stick to using runes on CF-tagged belts

[pseudo idol]

Will do, thanks!

[ruby pulsar]

what was the best lens combo again?

[mossy delta]

double attempts, double rewards, and then the last one is used to reduce rerolls. So either block some activity or increase chance for a specific prophecy type. The latter is usually the best.

[open lark]

LF Taxi to CoF please? ign: IROverRated

[hallow mountain]

Can anyone help go to CoF please? ID: Aztec_LE

[open lark]

Still need?

[hallow mountain]

yes please

[azure token]

is COF better than MG

[open lark]

Entirely subjective

[mint nacelle]

hi are you still online? would like a taxi too

[open lark]

Sure lemme finish this Echo

[mint nacelle]

o sorry i was in the wrong faction chat, i was wondering if you would have a tp for merchant bazaar instead

[open lark]

No sorry

[mint nacelle]

nvm thanks though!

[zealous bridge]

anyone having an issue where the reward isnt dropping but the "fulfilled x times" increments?

[regal knoll]

It's sad af even with 150% chance to farm lightless arbor...

[azure ferry]

mfw when lvl 73 and still no temporal key 😦

[radiant cosmos]

is cof better than merchants?

[unreal nest]

Merchants will always be better in the sense that you can just buy anything you want. CoF is a playstyle preference. So its up to you.

[radiant cosmos]

thanks. i played cof last cycle and it was really nice but i have little time this time around and i think merchants is the way

[unreal nest]

So that means staying in touch with the meta. Watch the popular streamers to see what they are playing - Youtubers for builds they are releasing videos on - sites like Maxroll for their Tier Lists, and the Leaderboards. Learn what items they use, so you can tailor your loot filter to only see high value items. This will ensure you stay ahead of inflation for your own build

[clever hare]

Any COF gamers able to get me to COF on cycle softcore?

[hallow mountain]

still want to tp?

[clever hare]

yes plz

[hallow mountain]

w8 got dc, give me your id

[clever hare]

DM

[boreal spruce]

can someone get met to the observatory? Nick in game Trublas

[wide forge]

Does CoF buff nemesis items?

[arctic seal]

dont think so

but you get more uniques to farm legendaries (most of the time the results are garbage though), rarely you will get LP back

[hollow fiber]

can i get a taxi COF ign Lokisvengeance

[hushed peak]

Can someone port me to CoF please? ign: Chesty

[maiden pecan]

any cof player help me to tp at cof place please? ign shadow6161

[boreal spruce]

can someone get met to the observatory? Nick in game Trublas

[glad forge]

Also looking for a taxi, ign randomocity

[kind saffron]

anyone doing taxi? would like some help ig BarbellsquatEnjoyer

[royal arch]

LF taxi, IGN Jaromir

[lost hollow]

Yo homes what do I do with gold in CoF

[unreal nest]

Stash Tabs you will need em - and then Lightless

[lost hollow]

That it? No actual CoF usage but spaffing it on lightless?

[livid spruce]

That's the whole purpose of that dungeon. You can also buy shatter runes from the vendor, but that shouldn't drain you too much.

[marsh quest]

Is there a solid way to grind gold for lightless? this gear im finding sells for like 10 gold at lvl 75

[errant ledge]

mono nodes for gold. empowered monos mobs drop a lot more gold

[marsh quest]

Ah gotcha, im not at the empowered part yet, almost tho

[unreal nest]

looting items for the purpose of making gold isnt gonna do it - i'd still loot uniques cause they are like 500g per sale - but exalteds or rares - not worth the time to vendor

[errant ledge]

Gold seems to be basically only obtained through drops. When I got to empowered monos, I think I had like 500k gold. That unfortunately doesn't get you a lot in lightless

[marsh quest]

The prophecy thing feels really mid IMO. Extra drops are cool but eh

[errant ledge]

my thoughts exactly. Heavily considering making a new character in online mode for merchant's guild so I can get the uniques I want for my build

[unreal nest]

Wait you mean like the entire prophecy system? CoF like dumps items all over the place for you

[marsh quest]

Might do that, my main is a sorc and I cant get a single mana item.

[unreal nest]

Yea if on like day 2 you are already concerned about loot - MG is definitely the play

[errant ledge]

I didn't play during 1.0, does CoF get significantly better at rank 10 or 12?

[marsh quest]

10 gives 150% drop rate on bosses, 12 gives 2x prophecy reward

[knotty remnant]

if im wanting to find a weavers will relic from prophecies, would it be a unique relic im looking for?

[errant ledge]

yes

[unreal nest]

But its not just Rank 10 or 12. Like Rank 11 takes every rare and gives it a 25% chance of dropping as exalted - that is ALOT of exalted items once you start pumping. Rank 9 giving you T7 affixes mroe likely is HUGE.

Rank 4 is our weakest bonus (set items dropping full sets) but even that isnt bad for some extra gold 🙂 Aside from that the average quality of items you find are vastly superior to MG. MG Just gains the benefit of you being able to sell high valued items for other builds and then buying your solutions instead of grinding them.

[marsh quest]

Is there a way to get more favor? im still at rank 5

[unreal nest]

based on XP gains - push higher monos for more XP

[marsh quest]

im almost to corruption for the first time so lets hope

oh wait, what are these lenses thing when i pick prophecies?

[azure ice]

The lenses are very important. They can increase uses and quantity of prophecies

[marsh quest]

oh, how do i get those?

[errant ledge]

The vendor at the bottom of the stairs sells them. They also sell gear. Are these vendor gears ever worth buying?

[jolly spire]

if they ever get around to a transmog system, yeah
some of them look really cool
as for using as actual item, not really

[marsh quest]

Im running lightless arbor if anyone wants to join

[rancid lagoon]

Is it possible that rune of ascendance rank 2 is bugged? I know RNG is RNG, but I used 10 runes of ascendance so far and never procced the "preserve a rune". And yes, im making sure I use them on CoF items

[ancient osprey]

if it really didnt proc 10 times in a row then it sure sounds buggy cause thats statistically unreasonable outcome
https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1210281997591908452

[crimson otter]

Can someone bless me with an invite to the observatory?

[rancid lagoon]

Like, as long as the icon is on the item, it is eligible to proc right? Im at 12 already...

[livid spruce]

It's like a 0.25% chance, imo far from unreasonable. Very unlucky, though.
Might also not be obvious when it procs

[rancid lagoon]

13th now, lol. oh well

[vivid ore]

anyone with cof rank 10 can confirm if it works for dungeon bosses?

[rancid lagoon]

After 14 tries it finally procced, my cof rank 2 procced. 0.019% chance, not bad, felt more painful when I missed 50/50 8 aislings in poe

[mossy pulsar]

how does the rank 2 bonus work exactly?

the rune has to be used on an item that dropped bc of the rank 1 bonus?

[gray ermine]

Anyone else find it odd that prophecies are completed on boss kill, but boss drops don't appear util after Harbinger 🤔? Huge oversight

So, basically, if u have prophecies active disable Harbinger or risk losing the items 🤔

[jolly spire]

it has to have the little CoF thingy in the bottom right of the item popup

[clear spire]

yeah youre right my prophecies gone after i killed the boss and died to harbinger

[pallid robin]

u need taxi

[golden needle]

How hard is it to swap to CoF on a new char after going MG 1st char? I know you can't use bought items from MG but otherwise it should be fine?

[undone shell]

Rng is RNG :/ i got 6 uses from 1 rune today ( all crap tho )

[gleaming mirage]

1 in 400 for 10/10 fails (iirc success is 45% right), kinda expected to happen often, rip though

[short ginkgo]

So, I'm trying to understand how prophecies work. I'm at a telescope, clicking on one of the rewards symbols. It's asking if I'm sure that I want to claim the prophecy. I click "Yes", and the only apparent effect is that the prophecies for that constellation get rerolled.
It doesn't spend favor, and I don't seem to gain anything. What am I missing?

[wind cargo]

Go to the guy in the middle of telescope room and ask him to show your prophecies. If they are here, and you didn't spend any faver, report a bug. If they are not here, report a bug anyway.

[short ginkgo]

The guy in the middle (Sandrak) just has their dialogue to present prophecies (I still have the quest that asks me to gain a prophecy)

[wind cargo]

Restart the game, try again, if nothing works, report a bug.

[short ginkgo]

Fair enough. It should add them to my list of prophecies in the factions screen, right? Just so I know what to expect

Alright, after restarting it worked. I guess I got 2 rerolls for free. Thank you!

[robust ridge]

Can you item filter for CoF bases to use with ascendance rune?

[gray ermine]

@frosty pelican Mages and Nemesis respawns upon reset confirmed, Nemesis frequency seems lower than Mage... In Solarum it seems like some/all Mage spawns are shared with Nem, but Nem also has its own unique spawns. I'm at 400c, assuming Nem frequency will scale with corruption like Mages do. Actually huge if frequency is at all reasonable at 1kc.

[livid spruce]

Interesting. I had a prophecy for a timeline boss (specifically, Gaspar) not too long ago and it popped before the harbinger spawned. Not sure what the difference was.

[gray ermine]

Yeah, my point is that prophecies should complete upon harbinger kill similar to how boss drops function, so players don't need to worry about dying to Harbinger on a prophecy completion.

[livid spruce]

Seems reasonable. Not that I would ever die to a harbinger.

[regal knoll]

Are you feeling the 150% drop isn't helping with exiled mage?

[gray ermine]

Hsven't been farming them, Wrongwarp is prob my primary weapon this cycle

[gray ermine]

Yeah it just seems odd that boss drops and prophecies function differently in terms of when they drop with a harbinger active... If they want the opportunity cost of harbingers to be higher that's fine, I just find the difference in when the items drop to be... odd

So... I just got two of the same boss drop from a single kill... I assume if the item drop rate exceeds 100% with rank 10 that 2 can drop? nuts

[livid spruce]

I believe they said the rank 10 just counts it like you killed two bosses every time, with a 50% chance of counting like you killed it a third time. So potentially you can get up to 3 of any particular drop.

[gray ermine]

Good to know, ty

[granite pine]

So on launch I decided to go CoF because as kind of a solo player I thought it would be nice, but I didn't feel like it actually increased my likelihood of finding stuff at all, so I was thinking going with Merchants this time, but youse that have been playing the Cycle longer can probably tell me better if the changes made any difference

[ruby pulsar]

did the weaver items dissapear from the COF?
I can't seem to find any of them no matter how much I roll

[torpid vale]

Lvl up your COF level to get more drops, also use prophecy to target farming. COF is super fun and gets tons of drops

[granite pine]

Right. I didn’t had the currency for the prophecies last time. Well at least not enough

[hollow sequoia]

pros and cons to both, i hated cof. last season i was max rank in both and i'd spend a whole day just trying to target farm one item, as most of your build is often exhalted and the affixes are just random luck... i had a much better time with the mg as after i made tons of gold and could buy w/e i wanted

[frosty pelican]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2194863317?t=10h58m13s I had a massive pop right before a harbinger fight, this is an absolutely terrible experience that will easily get you killed and waste a massive amount of favor. And we can't even say "this only happens because you farm at thousands of corruption" this was the favor I got leveling to 100 on day 3 of a new cycle

[torpid vale]

Last season I also played COF and I have farmed all items for 3 builds that I played and most of them are lp3. Unless you want to min max your build COF will offer you everything you need. I enjoy farming loots myself as that’s the reason for me to play any ARPG. I don’t like to waste time in market place and buy directly

[gray ermine]

Yeah, need to disable Harbingers if u have prophecies active... It's fine though for now (for me anyway) cause I can just farm glyphs of envy when I'm a bit stronger to kill 5000 dragons, and they drop quite frequently outside of Harbingers anyway

Also idk if u saw what I said about Nemesis, tagged u scroll up if not... This cycle is going to be pretty fun I think .

[livid spruce]

Nemesis stronk. I wonder if I can take my legacy 0 WW relics and get LP on them just to make them even more silly
It does work on uniques that are unable to get LP, but I haven't gotten LP to roll on those yet.

[frosty pelican]

I did a few resets at 300 or so, seemed worse than last season. Before I was getting almost exactly 50% mage per reset with a fairly large sample

this round I got fewer than 50% for mage or nemesis, though to be fair I think corr increases their appearance rate. Late time I did it at 3k, maybe the chance they just down spawn at all is high at 300?

[livid spruce]

Totally non-reliable info, but I felt like mages spawned on well over 50% of echoes at ~200c before 1.1. They feel more normal now. Corruption definitely does increase their spawn chance.

[gray ermine]

yes, mage spawns certainly scaled with corrutpion and still do I believe... at 4kc it was nearly 100%, if this is still the case and Nem spawns also scale with corr it's probably insanely broken, but Nem seems rarer than Mages overall... Hard to tell at this point

Seems like I'm already seeing way more Mages and Nem per echo @ 515c, relatively to 100-300c, spawns have gradually become more common for sure

[frosty pelican]

I didn't mean 50% of echo, I meant 50% of resets - I did over 200 resets and exactly half of them had mage at the spawn, without moving at all. I'd bet the spawn rate was 100%

[granite pine]

wait what's the deal with harbingers and cof?

[arctic seal]

if you have prophecy for boss kill, the items will drop when the boss dies but you will have to fight harbinger.
for me, one instance i could loot the items beforehand, but another instance the loots were unpickable because harbinger spawned on them, so be careful

[granite pine]

oh, oofta

[livid spruce]

Oh, the weird thing for mage farming. That's what I get for not paying attention to the context lol

[sudden gorge]

Is there any way to filter for circle of fortune items?

[hollow sequoia]

have they still not added a cof tag to filter after all this time?

[sudden gorge]

I can't seem to find it if there is one.

[hollow sequoia]

that's sad, what an ez addition that i've been wanting since week 1

[loud stratus]

Guys, after skipping the campaign as per Rax's guide at act 7, how do I get to join Circle of fortune?

[arctic seal]

you need to do act 9 quest, they are introduced there

[stark pumice]

Can someone recommend a loot filter setup that is good to set up?

[arctic seal]

maaaan i just killed the boss, prophecy dropped an lp1 unstable core, and i couldnt pick up because of harbinger

this is so dumb peepoRage

[mild jetty]

there is still no use for gold in CoF, is there?

[arctic seal]

you can spend it all in lightless arbor

[rich cipher]

Is anyone free enough to lend a hand to open observatory wp for me? ign: Virien

[velvet matrix]

I haven't had the chance to play long enough to unlock CoF again. How are you people finding the changes in the Faction so far though?

[normal horizon]

Can someone bless me with an invite to the observatory? ING: Delley

[little vortex]

When I buy a prophecy, shouldnd I see them on Y? Bought some but still tells me to visit the observatory to research prophecies ...
edit: now it finally shows up

[mossy fractal]

Well dying is not the only problem... just think how horrible it will be to fight the lagon nemesis with 60 uniques on the floor. Silly to have to modify filter to remove EVERYTHING before each timeline boss fight. This is just bad.

[limpid plank]

Anyone played around with cof10 yet? did 3 lightless arbor with it and 0 boss drops in any of them...

[split summit]

are you sure that you dont have too strict filter?

[limpid plank]

All of my uniques are shown, and I'm hitting x to enable/disable filter and check.

6th run, finally a shield. That's really bad odds to not hit a helm in 6 runs with cof10, but maybe I just think the bonus does something different or im very unlucky.

[split summit]

hmmm then idk, maybe there is something like a bug or just drop rate is so low

[gilded lark]

yeah I fail to see how this is intentional, probably a weird bug/oversight that nobody bothered to test for

[mossy fractal]

Funny thing is that I asked in ask the devs #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message and they consider this tested and fine 🤪

[limpid plank]

COF10 works extremely well in monoliths vs bosses. Doesn't seem to work vs arbor boss.

[gilded lark]

bro if I "tested" sh it on my job like how LE testers "test' sh it, I'd probably be lynched on the spot long before they could have a chance to fire me

a ton of things in LE look like nobody ever bothered to test them, or at least test them beyond the most superficial level. Glaring bugs or QOL issues that are unmissable in actual gameplay

[mossy fractal]

We need to spam them about this I suppose... since this is so so bad. They told me to post in feedback. So if you have a min I guess everyone and their mothers should do that and perhaps also in suggestions...

[gleaming mirage]

alt+Z

[arctic seal]

this also happened to me, it feels so bad when it dropped an item that i was looking for, and i died cause harbinger is rippy af

[gleaming mirage]

I agree that losing the boss prophecy loot to dying to harb sucks
But you can literally press alt+Z to hide ground items

Maybe that needs to be better communicated to new players?

Either way, yeah, the risk/reward formula does not check out for losing boss prophecy loot to harb death

[arctic seal]

or there should be a notification on the UI before we start the boss fight that says which prophecy will apply, so players can determine whether they want to pull harbinger in or not

(this feature was highly requested last league)

[gleaming mirage]

Yeah that should solve it completely

[normal horizon]

anbyody needs a taxi to observatory?

[rough rain]

Anyone experiencing prophecies just not unlocking after being chosen? After reentering the telescope ui i get my favor back but the prophecies change

[minor turtle]

Those being? Actually interested to what you think. I find the QOL really good in comparison to other games in the genre

[plush mural]

Whats a smart way to buy lenses?

[minor turtle]

Depends on what content you like

[plush mural]

Dont really mind

[minor turtle]

Have you read what they do?

[livid spruce]

The simple way to do lenses is getting one of each of the doubled effects for more cost ones for each zone, then just use the last socket to target what you want (unique, set, exalt, weapon type, etc.)
Requires you to be at a decent level in the faction, though, until then just do the last part

[frosty glade]

Can strand of the souls drop from prophecies?

[livid spruce]

No, boss-only drops can't drop from prophecies

[frosty glade]

Despair

[gray ermine]

Yeah, it's a pretty big oversight... Hopefully it gets changed sooner rather than later.

[viral thorn]

Quick question: where did the CoF & MG NPC's go? they were in the starting town last cycle... Do we find them in game later now?

[azure ice]

@gray ermine are you running the same warlock build from 1.0?

[gray ermine]

Mostly, but some stuff changed... Prob running Wronwarp > Ladle and Harvest + Spirits (no Rip Blood) for clearing.... Profane orb stuff for bosses/shades (prob wont go veil in arena)...

[gray ermine]

basically can still get 150-200% MS even with the Ghostflame mobility nerfs and still have giga damage/clear at 1k for sure

Also gonna drop 1 RR for the harbinger ring (swiftness, pen, ward, extra mana) it's really good and aiming to run Cradle perma... Cradle buffed btw!

[gilded pier]

anyone on HC i can port to observatory by any chance? xd

[azure ice]

send a link to your build if you dont mind

[crude lake]

Any taxi driver wanna take me to CoF Observatory? Ign ManaHungrig

[reef coral]

hint, with Rune of Ascendance and Circle Of Fortune can I get any unique not dropped from a boss?

[livid spruce]

Any unique that's a random drop (there are some uniques that just aren't drops, can't get those from runes either)

[fallen wyvern]

Would someone be able to help me get to COF pls? IGN NewPhoneWhoDis

[exotic dust]

Still need that TP?

[fallen wyvern]

Yes please dude

[exotic dust]

Think I sent the invite.

[fallen wyvern]

I didn't get one, what is your IGN?

[exotic dust]

ShieldsUp

[fallen wyvern]

LE-94 - failed to fetch party data

[exotic dust]

Hmmm

[fallen wyvern]

I did also PM you, and added to friends list, my IGN could be Rivanex, even though my char is NewPhoneWhoDis?

[exotic dust]

Huh, guess it's account name then.

[celest marsh]

how do i leave COF and join merchants?

[somber moth]

So why does the death of siege golem doesnt wrk?

[obsidian moth]

worked for me,

[odd lion]

Does anyone know if exalted lenses stack? I want to try 2x exalted 1x helmet. Too much rerolls for usual doubling setup

[warm scroll]

Anyone want to help with taxi? IGN Bynor

[ionic shale]

Can I filter for CoF items somehow?

[languid igloo]

Can anyone let me taxi? IGN Blky

[limber minnow]

@frosty pelican @gray ermine@signal iris for my corruption boys. I'm doing ~125k favor/hr at 550c on Imperial Warcamp. Only saw 4 nemesis and wasnt tracking mages but I think maybe about 3 seen. You guys doin any favor runs yet?

[frosty pelican]

tbh I spent my entire 700k or so after hitting 100 on prophecies, got nothing of value, then realized how massive the grind ahead is, and got tilted

[limber minnow]

you reroll MG? ya the grind is pretty insane now. MG got huge buffs with the nemesis exalteds and legendary empowers. Less players than cycle 1 but maybe retention will last a couple weeks longer since pinnacle content takes longer. The LP bonus for CoF kinda troll for nemesis as well haha.

Boss loot stupid easy to get tho, if your build needs those items. I have 4 2lp wings of aregentus rn

[gray ermine]

Working my way back from 575c been hunting for Imp Warcamp after R12 favor dump, no luck yet.

[limber minnow]

nice, when u find a node and do your run lmk ❤️

[frosty pelican]

I'll be totally honest, trade was what killed PoE for me and has generally been a thing I avoid like the plague in ARPGs since. It was a big reason why LE 1.0 was the most excited I had been for a game in many many years and why I went so hard into content and all that stuff on launch. Don't want to get too salty here, but seeing the gear the top MG players already have and knowing it would take me another 2+ months at least to get to that point kinda deters me from wanting to do that grind again.

[gray ermine]

im prob gonna go wrong warp + profane veil with 150-200% MS, proximity shield wont be an issue this time xD

[gray ermine]

It's probably going to be bad, but not as bad as ur making it out to be

[gray ermine]

So you only saw 4 Nem in 1 hour? I think Solarum is prob best for Nem spam... just reset with MAX movement and check all spawns in 20-30s

[limber minnow]

its definitely pretty bad now haha. Doable with some serious grindage. I love last epoch either way. And I would 100% quit if I did trade

[gray ermine]

If Nem can be easily targetted at 1k it will change alot, being able to empower every 0lp is pretty big

[limber minnow]

ya Im unsure if maybe there is some deterrent built in for spawn rates if you dont clear a map or something. 4 in 1 hour is insanely low compared to when im just clearing echoes

[gray ermine]

Could also maybe be low number of spawns in Imp Warcamp... I'd assume the frequency scales with corruption like mages which seem to be unchanged

[gray ermine]

I only did like 10 test runs in Solarum at around 300-400c and went 5/10 iirc

[limber minnow]

oh thats extremely good

[gray ermine]

Need a bigger sample size though, I'm gonna aim for Imp Warcamp + Solarum info nodes in t he next couple days

[limber minnow]

ngl im about to theory craft a build that uses all the crazy rare boss loot. 3lp twisted heart etc. Actually kinda easy to farm them now

[gray ermine]

The harbinger mana staff looks nuts, prob gonna go Sorc next and play with that

[limber minnow]

i had a build planner prelaunch using wall of nothing. already have 2 2lp of them. crap rolls tho

[gray ermine]

Yeah idk how I feel about that one... Any body armor that can't easily get 3-4lp needs to be insanely good to not be outclassed... I got a 1lp Celestial Doom earlier though and that thing is gonna slap

[limber minnow]

i was COOKING. trust haha

[gray ermine]

Really don't see how that body armor provides any value at all in current patch, but 🤷

[gray ermine]

Think I'm gonna try Celestial Doom + Seed of Ekkidrasil... Wall of Nothing would synergize nicely, but 2lp on body amor is really bad cause of how valuable body affixes are

[signal iris]

Im still not lvling on new cycle btw, been bz for preparation for my work xD. But im sure it will be so grindy since imo harbinger legendary are almost same on weaver gear but its good on exalt. Also, devs ddnt hear some suggestions to put some items for target farming such as eternal gaunt, few exalted amulets, etc, for sure with favor nerf this will be so grindy for cof to compete with mg

[steep trellis]

New patch has new good things, but personally the favor grind with xp nerfs kinda kills the cof experience for me, I don't mind grind, I just don't enjoy Japanese jrpg levels of grind,egg has very bad chances at 1 lp which is a shame most time is either affix 4 or less on item , maybe rarity of item changes chances of lp .

[frigid jungle]

glad im not the only one. It feels like they straight up buffed MG, yet giga nerfed COF this patch, when COF was already worse

[crimson obsidian]

I do wish there were more CoF levels that end up helping you gear up, even if those levels take a lot of extra grinding. Knowing that the gear I find will be better once I achieve, for example, CoF level 14 exalted gear that drops have two extra total tiers and bosses drop twice as many boss specific uniques, at least I'd be willing to work it out even if it takes a week of c1000 grinding.

[limber minnow]

Not having a rank for target farming exalted implicits was a blunder.

[deft creek]

Is there a guide to learn how to level up CoF rank?

[crimson obsidian]

Not sure if there is but it is irrelevant anyway; you gain Favour when killing things that yield experience. If you kill enemies that give +100% experience as a monolith modifier, you gain favour twice as fast, too. This is how you scale up CoF leveling (And why it seems like such a brick at some point until you push corruption)

Better gear makes you kill things faster, meaning more favour/h but also allows you to push higher corruption which is more favour/h (until you kill slower than the exp bonus would be)

[hoary apex]

the best way in 1.0 was going for exp tomes in high corruption monoliths to gain a lot of favor and then spend it in prophecies, complete them and repeat the cycle. not sure if still the best way in 1.1

[crimson obsidian]

Sadly exp tomes are terribly nerfed (I think down to like 1/3rd of what they used to be from 99 -> 100)

[hoary apex]

oh, expected tbh, it was op as hell

[crimson obsidian]

The favour gain on high corruption has also been reduced. EHG really wants you to farm efficiently, not necessarily hard content. So if you want to farm favour, make sure you can kill things quite fast. That said, if you one-shot things at 500 corr and one shot things at 1000 corr, then of course 1000 corr will yield a ton more favour/h than 500 still, thankfully. But yeah you need to make sure you can beat the content fast enough for it to be worth it for favour/h

[forest badger]

if the condition for a prophecy is arena 2, is it only fulfilled on arena 2 or can I also do it with a higher one ?

[smoky star]

only on 2

[supple field]

how is cof performing at "starting" endgame gear farm? is it better than last cycle or still not that good?

[spare valve]

it feels fine imo, maybe a bit stronger now infact because of the league mechanic.

[supple field]

good to hear since last time it was at this point that game started to feel tedious since I couldn't get to farming reasonable cor with my rng

[azure ice]

Yeah thats why im sticking to playing legacy. The nerfs to COF are too harsh to start a fresh cycle as COF is a true ultra nightmare mode

Finding the a unique and a worthy exalted is only half the battle. Landing the slam with slot machine RNG is way too harsh

[limpid plank]

Worse, they moved the two best reasons for cof to the very end while nemesis starts out early for a character. You’ll be level 98 or so before cof11 which would have helped a lot getting gear with a t6. Boss drops doubling doesn’t work for dungeon bosses either sadly

[gray ermine]

WTB rune that rerolls base type

[gray ermine]

Legendary crafting has been and will continue to be the worst part of the game... It can't be pure RNG, there needs to be some way for the player to weight the system more in their favor w/ each subsequent fail

I was simping a bit yesterday because I had pretty insane Nem RNG on day 1, but yeah I do think overall it's still going to be really bad... Still need to push to 1k and test spam Nem/spawn frequency, because in the long run it may not be as bad as I (and some others) were initially thinking

[azure ice]

If 300-1000 corruption is the new norm then having full 3LP and 2LP gear will no longer be the norm - so maybe our thinking of seeing big juicy LP drops is no longer required. After 100-200 hours a player has experienced the RNG of LE and this is where it becomes a very simple matter. Do you keep on grinding, knowing that if you put in 1k hours you will hit your gear goals or do you stop playing because you just got shafted when trying to slam a t7 affix on a 3LP? Some sort of mechanic that boosts our chances of crafting would be nice - im not asking for a free handout, but something that makes grinding 100s of hours worth it other than leaving it in the hands of RNGesus

[gray ermine]

I simply don't think this is true for the no lifers, assuming Nem frequency scales with corruption like mage spawns did (and likely still do?) it could be pretty nutty later on with Solarum resets. Being able to empower every 0 LP item twice is really insane if u can force a Nemesis every 1-2m... Rarity also seems to continue to scale and it's just exp that was nerfed? So, I could see pushing 1.5-2k+ potentially being worthwhile for the stronger builds if things work how I think they do. I'm still planning to aim for 4lp Urzils, 4lp Chains, 1lp RR/Orians and 2-3lp every other slot.

I think for more casual/semi hardcore players that gearing at the high end will be much more unrealistic, but conversely to reach a moderate gear level should be much easier overall

Also, I'm unsure if devs have confirmed how Nem actually rolls, but it seems to roll the item from baseline twice based on the items LP odds (and I'm assuming zone modifiers like rarity/corruption also play a factor for the shop/lp in general)... If 0lp empower results in 1lp, I'm assuming it rolls for 2lp again on the 2nd empower, so on, so forth. This could result in a lot of extra attempts on each item if you hold 0lps to empower, assuming Nem can be forced frequently via resetting.

Point being that I think it's a bit too early to really determine how harsh gearing will be overall, it's almost certainly going to be worse, but to what degree is still a bit ???

[crimson obsidian]

Not sure how common the egg is though, as well as whether a high corr nemesis having better rolls or not being a question I think, unless EHG explained it and I'm not aware. That said though, like I mentioned before, I do think CoF could do with more levels and grind for those levels is OK if it means we turn RNG more in favour.

[gray ermine]

I hit an egg every shop with rank bonus at 600c, haven't really tested spam resets yet though

[crimson obsidian]

Oh that is sweet, that'll help a lot. Haven't been able to play enough yet due to IRL reasons. Furthest I got was completing the final 90 mono. So about 40 or so nemesis so far, about 4 of them had an egg. but of course early character levels probably don't get those anyway for very obvious reasons 😛

[naive spoke]

what lens block do you guys use?

[gray ermine]

I pretty much always go double reward + target, especially early on. Not sure if Frozensentinels calculator is still accurate (should be unless prophecy pool changed).

[naive spoke]

what that? dont think I know

[gray ermine]

The two lenses that give reward multiplier + a target lens (uniques, exalteds, wands, etc.). Blocking on some categories may be correct, depending on what it is ur trying to farm, but hard to say w/o calculator or doing the math urself.

[arctic seal]

oh so that's how you use it

do you have a calculator link for the cof reward mechanic?

[gray ermine]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLiKBOApPtBBm5prr185HU-iYM9k28ENFgz-voXpB-4/edit?gid=269012209#gid=269012209 - Might be out of date, might want to ask Frozen directly if everything is still accurate (I'm unsure if prophecy pools have changed at all)

[arctic seal]

thanks

[tight shadow]

can you use more than one of the same lens at a time to up the chances of a specific drop?

like say I really wanted to find huge idols can I use 2 focusing lens of the mountains?

[azure ice]

Too early for sure - im not burnt out yet so im definitely going to keep on grinding

[void dome]

So what I'm gathering is that MG is the way to go this season? I can't tell if CoF is really rough or if the concerns are overblown this early in the season

[jolly spire]

nothing has really changed, just some perception things
MG - trading
CoF - grind forever

[arctic seal]

it's just early in the season so MG has more supplies

[void dome]

I generally enjoy Self-found more than combing an AH

[gray ermine]

This is just false... Favor generation/gearing curve has changed drastically, mathematically CoF was nerfed something like 80-90% for players who were at 3-4k+ corruption last cycle, new rank 12 and Nem comepnsate somewhat, but likely not nearly enough.

[jolly spire]

ok, fine
MG - trade more
CoF - grind forever more

[void dome]

I mean to be fair I've never broken like... 300 corruption. I'm reasonably casual, I wind up burning out by then, but have a blast up until

[gray ermine]

@limber minnow When u tested Waste Pools last cycle it was basically the same for u as Imp Warcamp, correct? I found a Waste Pools, but can't find Warcamp zzZZzz

[frigid jungle]

if you never get past 300 corruption, do not play COF. You won't even unlock anything good in COF ranks before you burn out.

All of the good COF rewards got moved towards the very end of COF, so you're literally not going to unlock anything good, or you'll be right there unlocking it as you burn out.

[gray ermine]

I hit R12 yesterday, around 30-35h playtime at that point I think

[arctic seal]

should i try to get 10% exp blessing for that extra favor boost? i'm currently using 22% unique drop rate blessing

[gray ermine]

Any build that can quickly push 300c should be able to hit R12 in around 40-50h (prob less), but yeah for most players that could be 2-3 weeks I guess

[frigid jungle]

I'm at ~400 but I didn't hit rank 10 until around the same time i killed abberoth

[gray ermine]

How much favor are u sitting on? Spending also gives rep, iirc u should be around R11 when hitting 100... I started hoarding at about 900k rep remaining and hit R12 with 500k saved, but I spent a lot of favor earlier on specifically to push R12 faster

[frigid jungle]

I'm spending it

[hazy elm]

how is cof there overall? do u feel like you are progressing fasetr around 500-600 cor?

[gray ermine]

Pushing is a non factor with needles and glyphs, very easy to push quickly

[hazy elm]

ya i was talking more abt favor gain/new faction progress etc

[gray ermine]

I'm working back from 575 looking for farming setup to finish baseline gearing, then I'll prob push 1.5-2k+ (assuming mage and Nem frequency scale with corruption)

[gray ermine]

Favor gen is mathematically nerfed by 80-90% period for players who were pushing 3-4k+, new R12 and Nem will give some back, but overall it's likely going to be worse... The X factor is Nem and how many u can force via spam resetting to empower 0lps

[gray ermine]

There's also a graph somewhere with the distribution plotted.. the 75% nerf from 300-1k isn't evenly distributed and iirc the bulk of the falloff occurs past 500-600c

There are also certain aspects that are clearly better/much easier now for CoF... Like boss drops and experimental items, so that's a plus, and there's lots of cool Harbinger uniques that should be pretty easy to farm overall..

[limber minnow]

waste pools was way worse for me

[gray ermine]

Yeah iirc it was actually on par w/ Ritual Lake which was worse... Man I can't find Imp Warcamp it's getting frustrating and I also want Solarum Ascent info node on same web or diff timeline

[thorny summit]

@arctic seal I think yes, every little thing that makes a difference is important now for us poor cof players

[gray ermine]

Just turned a pair of 0lp Telfs into 2lp, tbh if Nemesis can be spammed/forced reliably I think gearing could, maybe, be better than last cycle... That's a big maybe though, and needing to loot/hoarde all 0lps for empower is a bit annoying.

To clarify I went from 0-2lp on the first empower, and got to empower again at a chance for 3lp+, this is what will make it insane if it can be spammed.

We also need a "Maximum Legendary Potential" (starting at 0) setting for the loot filter, currently impossible to filter for 0lp and 3lp+ on the same item... If I want to see all 0lps for X item I'm forced to look at 1-2lp as well.

Err actually u can just recolor to a diff color for 3lp+

[livid spruce]

You can technically do a hide rule for 1LP+ after your show/recolor for 3LP+

[gray ermine]

yeah ur right there are ways around it

lol 0-1lp on Ocearon and 0-2lp on Salt the Wound on first empower... Nem might just be broken, but time will tell

[livid spruce]

Nemesis really feels like it's been pumping out some juicy stuff for me

[gray ermine]

I highly doubt it will make up for the nerfs for high end players... but if spammable it's hard to say and could be completely insane later on

[grave dagger]

is the rank 10 cof boss drop bonus supposed to work in dungeons?

[gray ermine]

I'd assume so

[livid spruce]

It gives an amount of agency that CF never had, hard to quantify it exactly. I think it's fine if it doesn't make up for what was going on before tbh, that stuff was downright silly

[hoary apex]

i heard it doesnt

[grave dagger]

it definetely doesnt work atm, the question is, if that is intended or if it's getting fixed

[gray ermine]

Should be pretty obvious if ur not seeing multiple of the more common drops across 10-15 runs

[gray ermine]

Yeah I'd assume it's intended for R10 to apply to dungeon bosses, otherwise the wording is pretty bad

[livid spruce]

It's intended to work on all bosses, they very clearly explained it that way

[gray ermine]

Would this also include mages? They have a "boss bar" and their own unique drops, it clearly doesn't apply atm

[hoary apex]

i guess its bosses with specific drop only?

[livid spruce]

Yes, it includes them
(Mages do have specific drops, ladle, mero, etc.)

[grave dagger]

that means you are supposed to get 5 Experimental items every time?

[gray ermine]

Harder to tell if R10 is applying to them though due to baseline drop rates not being as high/consistent

[livid spruce]

I don't think it is supposed to count the experimentals, but we'll find out the answer to that if suddenly we start getting 4-6 experimentals per kill lol

[livid spruce]

Yeah, that's why I'm not 100% sure if it's even bugged or not. Haven't done any testing myself or paid attention to anyone doing it and I avoid dungeons most of the time 😂

[azure ice]

Still a lot of RNG involved, but having an opportunity to turn a 0LP into something more powerful is definitely a good implantation on EHG part.

[grave dagger]

do 1 dungeon and you will know, every timeline boss Drops 3-4 items, yet temporal sanctum for example only Drops 1 ring on lvl 1

[livid spruce]

It does work differently than people intuitively expect, so I take claims of it being bugged with a little bit of sus

[gray ermine]

That isn't the point, the point is that if u can spam them effectively via echo resets (Solarum Ascent likely ideal), it could be insanely broken if u stockpile enough 0lps to empower

I'm thinking I'll be able to hit a Nemesis every 1-2m when spamming at 1-2kc, but we'll see if frequency scales with corr (seems to)

[livid spruce]

Fair yeah, Julra has always been buggy with her drops, so not surprising if she's bugging out again

[grave dagger]

lightless arbor is also not increased, since t4 dungeon would guarantee a helmet with 150% dropchance increase, yet you still get 0 Drops sometimes. the question really wasnt wether it works right now, but wether its supposed to.

[livid spruce]

It doesn't work that way, it just rolls the drops 2-3 times instead of once
So, you can confirm that it works if you ever see more than one of any particular item drop from one kill, but proving that it doesn't work takes a bit more effort

[grave dagger]

no, t1 temporal sanctum only Drops the Ring, 100% of the time

i was just wondering wether anyone knew if its supposed to work, but clearly noone does

[livid spruce]

I think we just explained that yes it's supposed to work, and we've concluded that Julra's drops are definitely bugged.

Patch notes and dev responses have been very clear about what it's supposed to work on:

    ‘Specific Rewards’ refers to any items dropped by that Boss, for example Ravenous Void dropped by The Husk of Elder Gaspar
    ‘Bosses’ applies to all unique enemies that display a boss health bar.```

[gray ermine]

Yeah, this is why I figured it should also apply to mages

idk if anyone else has seen a double drop from a mage, but I haven't and that one's a bit more difficult to confirm

[clear spire]

i get double drops from mages all the time

[fresh sphinx]

How has favor farming gone for you guys?

Im still undecided on CoF vs MG, and seeing Boss Uniques at Rank 3 on MG while CoF wants Rank 10 for the boss drops kinda upsets me.

[ancient osprey]

You'll never find happiness if you compare mg to cof directly
It's a fundamental gameplay choice

[fresh sphinx]

Hard to not do to be honest

[ancient osprey]

I find it to be a very easy choice personally. Main content of the game is coming up with your own build and item hunting, mg gets rid of a major part of that. But that's subjective

[fresh sphinx]

On one hand I see Rank 3 Boss Uniques in MG and want to MG. On the other I see the insane Idol costs on MG and want to farm Idols with CoF. Makes me feel stuck.

[ancient osprey]

It doesn't take that long to lvl up factions

[fresh sphinx]

Can you give me an idea?

They felt fairly long last Cycle, but they lowered and spread out the ranks so I know its lower somewhat now, but I dont have a proper frame of reference.

[azure ice]

Do you want a game where you can spend 1000s of hours in, COF is for you. If not then go MG and be done in 2 weeks

[ancient osprey]

Well it took me 2 days of farming to get from 10 to 12, it should be a similar timeframe to get to 10, maybe +/- 1 day
Depends how you farm, if you get the exp nodes, corruption level your build can pull off etc

[fresh sphinx]

Were you staying at a certain corruption the whole time? If so what was it?

[ancient osprey]

I'm playing legacy, so it might not be the best reference point, I was around 600c most of the time

[gray ermine]

Not experimental items, we were talking about unique drops

[hasty turret]

When I complete a prophecy, does the reward appear in my inventory or do I have to go somewhere to collect it?

[ancient osprey]

It will drop directly on your feet

[alpine cipher]

Does the 4th rank of CoF have any limitiation, I just droped 6 set items all 3 different sets and only one set was complete. Is it a bug or am I missing something or the wording of the rank is wrong and it's just a chance? All 3 sets are 3 piece total so Im lackin 3 set items. I may add that a prophecy for set item also proced.

[gray ermine]

@limber minnow I do think Wall of Nothing + Seed of Ekkidrasil could be insane, hard to say how reliable the damage to mana will be though and will require insane mana income... I'm assuming u were cooking something along those lines... I also think ward decay threshold in general is pretty ??? unless u can get an absurdly high value somehow

Also I found my Imperial Warcamp right at 598 corruption, a wizard always arrives precisely when he means to!

[limber minnow]

im just trying to find the best sentinel build, and life based prolly aint it haha. I found a very creative use for it that should be BiS, but will need the gear to test it.

[gray ermine]

Cleaver Solution + HH problem solved xD... I didn't look at new HH at all yet though, prob need to stack other methods of ward gen

[limber minnow]

maybe for melee, cleaver doesnt have cast speed

[limpid plank]

Lightless arbor as well. Doesn't seem to apply to any of the dungeons.

[livid spruce]

That may well be the case, I just don't know enough to say that definitively

[west vine]

How's CoF compared to previous cycle? Does it feel better to use now?

[rustic grotto]

Is there any rank within CoF that benefits getting the nemisis weapon bases? Feels impossible to get.

[near peak]

heyo yall. Has CoF been buffed or changed in any way going into 1.1 ? Havent had time to comb througbh all the patchnotes yet. When it first started it seemed like it was inferior to merchants guild in a way to me

[frigid jungle]

feels worse compared to 1.0

[fallow basin]

just reached monos someone wants to coop?

[vivid ore]

when are they gonna fix rank 10 cof for dungeons

i was hoping it would be fixed on 1.1.1.2 hotfix 😭

[hazy elm]

wait whut hahaha did they bug it?

[celest marsh]

is the only way to farm frost bite shackles from the linch boss???

[livid spruce]

Yeah, only drops from Formosus

[hazy elm]

its super easy now with envy glyphs

[gray ermine]

@limber minnow 180k in 1 hour @ 598c, had a few deaths and 0 XP shrines, with a bit more optmization would prob be 200k+ ... Primary counter to lower corr ceiling will be ULTRA zoom and aiming to 1 shot everything in a single pass. My gear is really bad atm, long term I'm going wrongwarp + full autobomb (No Rip Blood), aiming for 180-200%+ MS and fastest possible kill times vs. rares.

Pretty sure at 1-2k corr I could push this to 300-400k/hr - When combined with R10, R12 bonuses and Nemesis, I could see cycle 1.1 being a net buff for CoF overall (and especially at the lower end)

[azure ice]

This is good to hear !

[sleek mural]

Hey I'm new to COF this cycle, are there some prophecies that are unique to some areas (like arena/campaign/monos/etc.) or can I just block arena ones because I don't like arena (and not miss anything)

[livid spruce]

Nah, you can block whatever content you want. Only downside is losing that lens slot

[sleek mural]

👍 thanks!

[frosty pelican]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLiKBOApPtBBm5prr185HU-iYM9k28ENFgz-voXpB-4/edit?gid=498577041#gid=498577041

[gray ermine]

TY, so I'm pretty much right at the point where DR starts to kick in when accounting for rank it seems

I really don't think it's going to be that bad if we can still push 300-400k favor/hr with the new rank bonuses and Nemesis... Only builds with very high dps/consistent burst and mobility will be able to push those numbers though I think

[frosty pelican]

At what corr did you get 800k/hr? @gray ermine

[gray ermine]

4k last cycle, I just did 180k in 1 hour @ 598c with 3-4 deaths and 0 xp shrines (straight blasting 0 loot, 0 nem, 0 mage)

[vale harbor]

At what point if ever would you say a character is ahead in cof compares to MG? I bought 2 of the like 7 non lp phantom grips last night on eternal but they had min roll on crit. There were no higher rolls iirc. I'm thinking I'll probably switch off when phantom grips become more plentiful since my lich from last season is still mg.

[gray ermine]

I believe that with more optimization I'll be able to push 300-400k @ 1.5-2k and pushing that high will still be worth it for additional rarity and potentially Nemesis spawn frequency, assuming clear speed is maintained... TBH as far as I can tell pushing as high as possible will still be the play, except now u want to stop immediately when clear speed starts to falter... It will also be much faster to push overall so not a big deal.

[unreal nest]

CoF is never ahead of MG - because in MG you can just farm gold, and random highly desirable items and buy the things you want

If the "power" aspect of the factions is of any concern - MG is the only answer. CoF is about a preferred playstyle

[frosty pelican]

Well if we say you did it at 3.5k that was 42x XP in 1.0 if you do 2k in 1.1 you'll get 9.5x XP with the R12 bonus. To still get 400k/hr (so say 50% of your previous rate of xp) you would still need also farm 2.21x faster

[gray ermine]

Yes, and that will be doable at lower corruption is my point... New meta is MAX zoom and MAX burst which will limit options in terms of build diversity when it comes to farming effectively

[gray ermine]

My setup will be Wrongwarp > Ladle with Profane Orbs + Harvest (no Rip Blood) aiming for 150-200%+ MS and max upfront burst

[frosty pelican]

my RM certainly couldn't clear 1-2k corr multiple times faster than 4k or whatever, maybe your setup is different

[gray ermine]

I'm using a diff setup specifically to cater to faster clearing and confident I'll hit 350-400k/hr in the 1.5-2k range (or even 1k, depends on when clear starts to fall off)

[frosty pelican]

I would be surprised, but it seems possible

[gray ermine]

300k conservative, 400k optimistic

[frosty pelican]

yea, definitely need a very specific build to pull that kinda favor/hr off - super purpose built

[gray ermine]

agree

[gray ermine]

Fortunately I think the same setup will also be superior in arena, so works out in my favor if anything xD

[frosty pelican]

are you not giving up defense or something with that much speed? Or is speed just better for kiting

[gray ermine]

I will be more durable actually because Cradle was buffed and I'm hard committing to it early... It's gonna be funny, wait and see xDD.

[gray ermine]

My build could only maintain 15-20k ward last cycle to begin with, so barely touched on that front... Lost a lot of DR on GF and overall EHP will be lower, but I didn't get hit ANYWHERE near as hard as other meta builds

[limber minnow]

Did you notice nemesis and mages only like once every 12 mins? Pretty sure they nerfed resetting yesterday right before I did my run.

[gray ermine]

I will be completely and entirely unkillable at 1.5-2kc, not even a question

[frosty pelican]

lol that would be hilarious if they did that

[gray ermine]

I kinda noticed the same thing LOL and the funny thing is that if they did shadow nerf, there is absolutely a work around regardless of how they implemented it... Just setup 4-5 ideal layouts on the same web, or swap between two... Depends on if time or zone based... Because I know they will respawn on the same echo, and iirc I've seen one respawn within as early as 3m from the last just today (Solarum)... To me it just seems like RNG and that spawn frequency scales with corr, but I do seem to see a lot more when pushing normally.

[limber minnow]

Nemesis is pretty op. Worst case you just do a pure grind session of favor then map as usual after.

[gray ermine]

I've hit 4-5 in a row and within a very small window when pushing nromally... and yeah Nem is broken... You will isolate farming.... Pure favor blasting into Nem/Mages while dumping favor on a diff layout

[frosty pelican]

or make a bunch of alts, lel. Half joking

[gray ermine]

The ability to consistently spawn/spam Nem will make a big difference though and is still ???, I should know within 1-2 weeks depending on how long my baseline gearing takes... hopefully less

[gray ermine]

another potential option, but relogging would take longer I think

[limber minnow]

FG is at empowered mono start, VK lvl 25 otw now for the same. Get my trio setup and just wait for the gear to come in. Pala is farming on a meme warpath build

One thing I noticed.....You get a pair of avarice gloves every run. Can egg add LP on this thing? I havent tested cause priorities.

[gray ermine]

Getting used to looting all valuable 0lp items is... difficult...

[gray ermine]

Boys I was going to log 5 minutes ago and just hit the most insane RNG streak of my life... Double RR day 4 btw xDDD

[hazy pike]

Is cof 12 actually working? I’m using double lens so typical 1 prophs now say get 2 and I only get 2

[frosty pelican]

It doesn't work on runes, keys, glyphs, etc if that's what you are trying

[hazy pike]

Nah on uniques

[frosty pelican]

oh what, I took a bunch all at once so I didn't notice if it was working or not

[hazy pike]

Idk you have no issues w it? Yeah same here but I’ve been really suspicious lately and counting closely

And it’s not doubling my uniques, it’s the same as the listed number… and the listed number isn’t pre doubled

Feel like I just blew like 500k favor for half value

[frosty pelican]

Maybe get a recording if you can, that would be a massive problem for CoF

[hazy pike]

My pc is potato

[signal iris]

Hi frozen, u stopped farming ur gear?

[frosty pelican]

I haven't really played the last couple days

[signal iris]

Oh okay, i thought u came back to legacy.

[frosty pelican]

I might do that, yea

[alpine wedge]

how do u guys farm favor? im at corrupt 750 but idk if i should go higher, reset instance or something

[signal iris]

Rinse and repeat, and wow ur that hight already? Wtf

[alpine wedge]

having a good time playing torment warlock but lacking some good exalted gear

[signal iris]

I mean ur in new cycle or legacy?

[alpine wedge]

cycle, almost 3% away from lvl 100

[signal iris]

Warlock must pretty op, ive seen alot on friendlist lvling one

[alpine wedge]

profane veil is op af

[signal iris]

Damn, maye boss mechanic is just cake on warlock

[alpine wedge]

which region got the easiest boss? i climbed at age of winter but that boss is soo Zzzzz

[frosty pelican]

Abom is easy imo, Reign of Dragon too

anything with phase is a pain

[gray ermine]

apparently R10 isn't working on dungeon bosses, and should work on mages, but I haven't seen a single double unique drop (this is more difficult to determine, but I should've seen at least one)... I didn't confirm the dungeon bosses myself, but have heard from a couple others.

[signal iris]

So warlock arena battle this cycle huh. For the leaderboard

[gray ermine]

I'm wondering how pure Profane Veil/Orb would do compared to what I'm doing... Uptime too low I think... Pretty sure Ghostflame still the play and prob no Profane at all for arena

[alpine wedge]

what are u guys farming?

[gray ermine]

Sorc also has some potentially INSANE stuff with new Harbinger uniques and mana stacking, but prob more difficult to gear overall, that will be my 2nd build if I have time after month long Corepunk alpha xD

[frosty pelican]

Am I supposed to be CoF Rank 1 on Legacy...?

[signal iris]

Btw a friend of mine left his marksman for skurge's warlock xD, i told him ur build lol. I thnk now he is so happy.

[signal iris]

Same rank10 need to switch in stash tab

[frosty pelican]

not 10, I am rank 1

[signal iris]

Theres a dropdwom on top left put it to legacy i thnk then merge

[frosty pelican]

ahh

[signal iris]

Nope, it samehappen to all players on 1st day, very confusing though

Also u cant deposit only withdraw items on previos cycle

[frosty pelican]

What happens if I click merge and I have 200 tabs in 1.0

[signal iris]

Yeah u can see them all

[frosty pelican]

Is it going to mess my tabs up ?

[signal iris]

But sometimes it disappears and u need to do that dropdown menu again, idk if devs fixed it

[signal iris]

I thnk no, mine still same the way it was

The only downside is the new stash tabs, oh if ur max 200 stash, that idk xD, idk if u can add more

[frosty pelican]

yeah I am concerned being over max 200 it will break

[signal iris]

@gray ermine is ur warlock can be played with controller no issue? I tried now bleed falconer i thnk its good on controller, but not as good as sentinel or mage

[frosty pelican]

I think clicking the button broke the game - I don't know if it can handle my thousands of items

[signal iris]

Yeah it will froze the game, im only having 140stash, so simce ur 200 it maybe annoying

[frosty pelican]

oh does it just leave them as remove only forever?

[hazy pike]

Why switching to legacy?

[gray ermine]

Not sure how casting Rip Blood (single target mostly) would feel, but otherwise yes... I also won't run RB for clearing most likely... Wrongwarp and Harvest + Spirits (no Profane either), will find a way to fit Profane if I can't 1 shot everything at 1k+ (doubt I'll need Profane)

My goal is to go full autobomb + MS with more frontloaded damage to maximize the value of MS... MS/Zoom isn't as valuable if things don't die instantly, but at 1-2k everything should pop instantly once I'm geared

[arctic seal]

50 exalted items on the floor, literally only 2 were usable (as slam fodder) 💩

[lime kettle]

This is odd, I have prophecies that need to kill julra tier 2 and yet nothing popped

[arctic seal]

maybe it popped but it has more than 1 use?

[lime kettle]

That's what I was thinking or that it needs to be progressed first but no. Ran Tier 3 Julra next and those popped like it was meant to be. Both T3 and T2 have the "Fulfilled X times"

[agile lance]

I really wish the "double boss drop" applied to dungeon bosses. 30+ Julra down, 2 pair of gloves, 2 failed hit. 😢

[lime kettle]

That bad huh? I guess I got lucky, got gloves on first try but the rolls were bad

[agile lance]

😢 I got them way faster in 1.0, but that's the nature of RNG

I got 12+ Julra rings though! (I say "+" because I don't remember how many I didn't bother to loot)

ALL 1LP though

[lime kettle]

Idk maybe my RNG is cursed too but im 94 beastmaster and I still dont have the core setup, its rough

[agile lance]

GLOVES AGAIN! Hope I hit, it's my last pair of T7 shred (I mirrored my last one)

😭

Time to reroll, build stalled without the gloves, and I can't bother spending a 3rd day doing freaking Temporal Sanctum

[lime kettle]

Do Harbingers or corruption progress, plenty other stuff to shake things up

[agile lance]

I'm playing Poison Burst totems. lvl 98, 10/10 harbringers down, I don't have the DPS for Aberoth yet. I have a good hit on a Death Rattle, T6 flat totem damage chest, I'm just missing over 50% of my damage due to lacking the gloves

possibly more than half my damage actually

[lime kettle]

oh...thats way further than I am 😄

[agile lance]

I was in that same state 2 days ago, hence the Sanctum farm

[storm light]

I Regret going CoF this cycle, almost lvl 90 and alot of Ascendance runes used(ofcr all on CoF gear so i get to save 45%) and i still havent been able get my build enabling unique😭

[near peak]

anyone elses CoF just completely bugged ? Whenever I buy a prophecy, no matter which one, it just puts a random different prophecy instead

It just fills with random ones I dont want or need instead of the ones I select

[arctic seal]

Works fine for me

[azure ice]

Sorry to hear brother which unique are you looking for? Some are more rare than others.

[lime kettle]

Do offline and online characters share cof progression?

[sweet pebble]

Are Shields considered Armor or weapons

[shell scaffold]

Hey yall, what do you think about saving all my fortune until I hit empowered monos/etc? Im level 68 rn and not sure if its a waste to spend it atm

[fresh sphinx]

Spending favor also gives you Reputation with that Item Faction

So if you want/need a certain Faction level, spending favor will get you there faster than saving it

Now if you want to save generally speaking to roll a lot of prophecies at once, thats one thing, but Im talking about intentionally never spending any favor at all, period

[shell scaffold]

Hm, I see - when people try to roll a lot at once is that stacking like "kill x enemy" rewards and then target farm that mob/boss?

[fresh sphinx]

you can do that but you dont have to

I personally just put on lenses that prevent certain activities (like Dungeons and Arenas). Then I have a list of the items and or item types I want, and if I see them as I go through telescopes I pick them up assuming I want to do them or would do them anyways.

[lime kettle]

What does the condition "Monolith" means? Normal monolith? I have been killing on empowered and they dont seem to progress

[fresh sphinx]

I assume its a certain type of enemy in monoliths.

[lime kettle]

Giant Scorpion but I swear I have been killing some

[fresh sphinx]

Yeah it should be just kill X Giant Scorpion inside Monoliths. I believe it shouldnt matter if Empowered or not

Maybe double/triple check you killed one, see if it progresses, and if not submit a bug report?

[gleaming mirage]

Could it be that giant scorpions from the skittering gate don't count? I know that void horrors from beacons don't count

[frigid jungle]

chat is rank 10 COF working yet?

[fresh sphinx]

Given we're dealing with RNG and modification to said RNG, its not easy to know without Dev confirmation

[frigid jungle]

no like its straight up not working on dungeon bosses at all

[fresh sphinx]

The only way to realistically determine if its working or not is with a large sample size of data.

and if it works on Boss A, but not on Boss B, then the size of the data set gets smaller, making any kind of certainty harder

[frigid jungle]

what? There's a 50% drop chance on peak of the mountain at dungeon lvl 4. If you increase his drops by 150%, (my math sucks here so this might be wrong, but I know the odds of it not dropping are very low) .5 x .5 x .75 = .1875 chance of not dropping per run

Even if you only did like 10 runs, if it still had a 50% drop chance, that's a statisticly significant amount of runs

[fresh sphinx]

50% x 2.5 would be 125%, so unless Im misunderstanding something, or its not coded this way, you should be getting one per boss, and a chance at another

[frigid jungle]

I just assumed they made it so it rolls 2.5 times, instead of straight up buffing something to be 125% drop chance

[fresh sphinx]

"Bosses have 150% increased drop rate"

[frigid jungle]

yes and I understand that, but I was being conservative because we don't know the exact mechanics behind it.

[fresh sphinx]

if 50% is default, aka 100%, increasing it by 150% is the same as taking the drop chance and multiplying by 2.5 (1+1.5=2.5)

[frigid jungle]

But regardless, doing 10 runs and still seeing a 50% drop chance on it would be statistically significant for either way they did the drop chance increase

[fresh sphinx]

With this logic, a drop chance of 40% or higher should be guaranteed, and its a rank 10 reward so I think that would make sense

[frigid jungle]

anyway, my point being it clearly doesn't drop every time, so we clearly don't need them to specify its bugged

[fresh sphinx]

LE Tools doesnt specify if its common, uncommon, rare, or extremely rare, so how do you know how common it is by default?

[frigid jungle]

wym? it literally tells u 50%
https://i.imgur.com/cT3n354.png

[fresh sphinx]

I misread the item name my bad. I assumed Core of the Mountain sorry

[fresh sphinx]

Theres 2 realistic options. A: I misunderstand the effect and its not just Drop Rate x 2.5 or B: I am correct and its bugged.

But I dont believe we have confirmation either way so its still up in the air.

The other question being how its bugged. The drop rate could not be increasing, or certain "Boss" enemies could simply not be included under the effect.

[frigid jungle]

yes thats why I specifically pointed out that the other way to take the effect is that instead of just increasing drop rates on items, they could be instead rolling the boss for multiple kills, which is how I got the previous .1975% chance fro it to not drop per kill

[fresh sphinx]

If it was rolling twice Id understand that, but how can you roll for "half" of a boss kill? Just halve the probability?

[frigid jungle]

roll a third time with half the chance yeah

[fresh sphinx]

Using your math, the odds of not getting a single Peak of the Mountain after 10 attempts would be ~12.5%, totally possible

[frigid jungle]

your math is wrong here my friend, i can promise you that. The chance of not getting a peak after 3 kills with just a 50% drop chance is 12.5%, so it's definitely not 12.5% with it rolling 2.5 times after 10 kills

[fresh sphinx]

I inverted a probability, sorry about that

playing and chatting and doing math, bound to make errors

Proper odds would be 0.1875^x where x is the number of boss kills

[frigid jungle]

yup

[fresh sphinx]

2 kills is a 3.5% chance
3 kills is a 0.7% chance

[frigid jungle]

Yes so as you can see, it is very easy to see that its bugged

[fresh sphinx]

Regardless of exactly whats wrong yes I can understand why people are saying that

Would be really nice to get a dev update or confirmation

[nimble crater]

Do we know how exactly the math for double chance of LP on items works? Like if world splinter has a 0.42% chance of 2LP is the better chance now 0.84%? Or is there a cumulative increase happening?

[fresh sphinx]

For a given LP odds, the chance should be doubled yes

So if for example it was
1LP 5%
2LP 3%
3LP 1%
4LP 0.5%

We would expect those values to all double.

actually the wording isnt super clear, hmmm
It might be that the total odds of getting >0 LP are doubled, but Im not sure if its implied that each given range is doubled

so in this example it might be that the total odds double from 9.5% to 19%, but its not implied that each values % is doubled :\

vague wording is so fun to parse 😦

[unreal nest]

You'd have to know for certain if an item rolls "Chance for LP" and then "1-4 LP" as separate rolls. Or if items roll 0-4 LP on every drop.

[fresh sphinx]

yeah

[frigid jungle]

unfortunately its info they legit havent told us

[unreal nest]

And they shouldnt. Just play the game. People need to Stop running formulas and then raging because it was a 4.287495% chance - and you did it 25 times and didnt get what you wanted

[fresh sphinx]

NO clutches my calculator

[nimble crater]

Eh. It'd just be nice to know? Since farming 100 or 200 of those weapons is a rather mentionable difference

[fresh sphinx]

Math is fun, its why I do it!

[unreal nest]

A mentionable difference that doesn't really matter - because until your sampe size is 10,000 or 100,000 - you can't rule out RNG regardless of the formula

[fresh sphinx]

People need to Stop running formulas and then raging because it was a 4.287495% chance - and you did it 25 times and didnt get what you wanted
I love knowing how RNG screwed me over lol. Oh, the odds of X happening to me was sub 1%? Heheh.

Hell, because of Video Games, probability math is my second most used math skill outside of Arithmetic xD

[solid heron]

i love math, but applying it to game RNG is a massive mistake for your fun unless you're working out how lucky you were lol

[arctic seal]

💩 why doesnt the boss drop perk work on dungeon bosses?

[livid spruce]

Not if doing the math IS the fun

[frigid jungle]

i think my biggest complaint with video games is a fundamental misunderstanding of statistical power when it comes to discussions. I've worked with professors at universities like Stanford publishing papers with sample sizes of 30. You do not always need these insanely high sample sizes

[unreal nest]

Is it possible to toss a coin 10x - and hit Heads 10x in a row? It is. But its a 50% chance to hit Tails. right? To eliminate RNG from the equation in practical applications you need a large sample size - otherwise you base your conclusion on a potential anomaly.

My first Unique was a 3LP - so because 1/1 was 3LP - I could summize that the 3LP Chance is 100%. But it isnt. because im using a small sample size to justify nonsense

[frigid jungle]

you haven't refuted my point here. Yes sample size is important a sample size of 1 is going to get your hypothesis thrown out. But you either don't have a proper understanding of power analysis, or you need to go take a refresher, because you absolutely do not need a sample size of 10,000 to make a good hypothesis (as you previously stated)

[unreal nest]

Got it - you read my paragraph and only saw 10,000 and latched onto it - enjoy the game!

[frigid jungle]

Most studies use a sample size of 30 in the real world, because that provides a significant conclusion based on P values

[frosty pelican]

some of us enjoy that part 🙂

[frigid jungle]

Lmao I mean you're just wrong and spouting stuff you clearly don't have a good grasp of, but go off king

[frosty pelican]

Wouldn't the sample size needed for say 95% confidence be relative to what you are testing for and it's expected chance of happening?

[frigid jungle]

yes, that's part of power analysis

[sonic pumice]

bro really tried to flex he writes papers with professors at harvard yikes

[frigid jungle]

it's been a long time since I've taken a stats class, and I no longer work directly in a field doing anything with research papers, but the previous discussion was about peak of the mountain which has a 50% drop rate, you absolutely do not need insane sample sizes for a good P value

[sonic pumice]

ur harvard professor tell u that?

[frigid jungle]

bro u cant even read I said stanford

[frosty pelican]

Can you just do a P test? heh

[sonic pumice]

oh wow same thing xD

[frigid jungle]

you could, and if I was trying to make a relevant statement here I would, i was simply chiming in that gamers especially have a fundamental misunderstanding of sample sizes whent hey complain about people trying to make complaints about RNG or bugs

[sonic pumice]

bro doesnt know what a joke is damn

stanford professor didnt teach him that rip

[frosty pelican]

I was making a joke yea, but math is still fun 🙂

[frigid jungle]

xdd i absolutely did not see that as a joke then

[pseudo shell]

God, this channel is so useful, thank you guys so much! 😁

I comeback to game before Factions are implement and as a SSF player, I love CoF so much
but Prophecies system looks annoying to me, I had 3 problem:

• 1. I understand a prophecy something like this: to get X, need to kill Y, at Z => sometime it's not clear where are Y & Z
• 2. Prophecies isn't tracked automatically as a quest when character is going in Z (why?), all progress logs are displayed in chat windows (?!)
• 3. After getting multiple Prophecies, I cannot filter Prophecies by Y & Z to focus doing them

1, 3 are really big problem to me, make me want to stop getting Prophecies,
but they are solved after I go into this channel, check some comments and learn about the sheet "Last Epoch Information & Calculations Compilation from FS and Community", yeahhh haha ❤️

[fresh sphinx]

1: Not a perfect solution, but I believe there is a list of enemies somewhere and where they spawn (Last Epoch Tools? I forget but I know it exists)
2: Prophecies are "tracked" in the CoF Menu, but not as quests. You can still look them up outside of the CoF area.
3: Do you mean filter prophecies you want to get at a telescope? Or do you mean you have a pile of prophecies already picked, and want to sort through your personal list?

[azure harbor]

Can you get any unique from prophecies or some are still tied to bosses/monoliths?

[fresh sphinx]

Boss specific drops are still only from those bosses, but the rank 10 CoF buff increases the drop rate by 2.5x

[outer arch]

I feel like it takes way longer to get to CoF lvl 12 than 10

[main merlin]

Is it just me or do the Void Horrors spawned by the beacons not count towards the "deaths of void horror" prophesy condition?

[plush zinc]

no they dont

[limber minnow]

True and real

[paper sphinx]

Is there a trick to finding the Imperial Eye enemies? I've had these two prophecies for an eternity.

[languid olive]

any undead zone would work, the first mono is probably your best bet?

[paper sphinx]

okay, thanks

[paper sphinx]

Thanks! Not only did that work, the 18 gloves that dropped finally gave me my Mortality's Grasp I'd been looking for.

[clear spire]

the good ending

[harsh python]

if i change my faction, i will lost all the rank i have?

[gray ermine]

@frosty pelican Sorry to bother you again xD, but apparently base spawn rates of Nemesis will be increased (next week?), that should be interesting... Think I'll focus purely on farming for now and take Nem when I see it until the buff... Hoard all the 0lps! https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1e3abmz/make_finding_nemesis_encounters_less_painful/

[frosty pelican]

hype

[gray ermine]

I was occasionally trying to force them to empower well rolled 0lps, but seems like mostly a waste of time for now

[livid spruce]

No, but leaving causes you to lose all favor in the faction you leave

[arctic seal]

if they are nerfing nemesis i'm gonna be really mad

the current version is fine already, i dont want to see nemesis more frequently if they are going to brick my rare items

[obtuse berry]

If I spend my favor right now, I will reach rank 12 in CoF. Will my prophecies then benefit from the rank 12 reward of twice the loot? Or will I need to spend the favor at rank 12?

[hazy elm]

@frosty pelican how is cof with experimental affixes this season? still garbage or you havent tested much yet?

[lucid pawn]

Is CoF any better this cycle? I remember last cycle pulling hundreds and hundreds of chest prophecies and never seeing a 3lp drop

[red helm]

It’s „worse” now because you can’t abuse doing insane corruption anymore because of scaling after 1000

[lucid pawn]

I got sick of dropping over 20 chest peices over and over and seeing junk

[arctic seal]

no buff to LP rate, but you can drop your non lp chest piece in the nemesis slot machine

[hazy elm]

rank 12 is significant change, boss drops are way better now too, as for high top endgame grind we will see how it pans out after couple months, on paper its nerfed quite a lot

[lucid pawn]

Well MG is cooked due to gold duping... sigh...

[honest ice]

What the hell this cyle alrdy gold dupe?

[lucid pawn]

Yep. Meta items with 2LP are in the billions.

[honest ice]

Holy moly it’s good I’m in cof 🤣🤣🤣

[hoary kite]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/chinese-players-have-found-a-dupe/72506

cof chads we cant stop winning

[bright radish]

Holy fck thank the CoF
While trying to farm the new raptor unique sword in the dragon timeline I got a 2lp twisted heart

[arctic seal]

can't stop won't stop winning

[wise sonnet]

when you buy a prophecy that cost x favor, does it also make your rank progress by x favor? or more/less?

[red helm]

Cof chads are just always winning

[arctic seal]

yes, same amount of x favor you paid for the prophecy

[visual narwhal]

They nerfed cof? It seems less usefull than before

[velvet matrix]

Anyone else experience a bit of jank with CoF regarding Prophecies? I slap on wands and unique modifiers and I don't see wands in over a half dozen cycles on the prophecy charts.

Just to be sure I removed the modifiers and added them back in again, and it took an additional five to see my first wand.

It was Exalted.

[hearty tree]

Why qq when now you can easily get 2 LP or 3LP from nemessis egg replacement

[wraith island]

Which lenses u guys use?

[velvet matrix]

Depends on what I'm targeting. In saying that, the lenses have not treated me fairly.

[wraith island]

I just need a lot of exalted items for my hail of arrow marksman

[velvet matrix]

Buy a couple of exalted and whatever equipment you need.

If you have three slots free then I recommend slapping the "double reward" lense as well.

If you have tons of faction points just sitting there, replace the "exalted" lens for "double the amount of prohpecy runs" or whatever it's called lense.

The prophecies will be expensive but it's a loot shower for longer, increasing the chances of you getting what you want.

But if you only have two lense slots free then keep it simple. Item + Exalted lense.

[wraith island]

Okey thank you 🙂👍

[velvet matrix]

You're welcome Nick!

[vivid ore]

has rank 10 cof for dungeon boss been fixed yet

[velvet matrix]

Dunno. First I've heard that there were problems with it.

[still agate]

how do i target farm throne of ambition? unique idols on god hunter argentus?

[shell belfry]

blessings don't affect boss drops, only world drops - just got to farm

[still agate]

got it, thanks

[ruby pulsar]

so I was thinking it was just in my head but COF felt worse this time around than it did in 1.0
But I'm starting to see folk saying the same thing.

We echo'ing in this chamber or we just suffering a nerf?

[broken venture]

I can't think of anything in the notes that would indicate a real nerf

[red helm]

It kind of is. You are not doing crazy corrupt anymore and you get less xp/favour

[broken venture]

That's a nerf to corruption as a base not CoF specifically. And you're getting more favour from everything else.

[red helm]

Hardcore CoF enjoyers already calculated this before launch. For casual it’s better but for min maxing sweaters doing 4k corr in 1.0 it’s a nerf.

[broken venture]

And your point is? There aren't that many builds that reach 4k corruption. And I'm willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of players don't either.

[red helm]

You are asking if CoF is nerfed, I answered you how it is nerfed. I don’t have opinion about it. Just stated what pro guys calculated. You can decide for yourself if it is nerf for you or not.

[ruby pulsar]

yeah so just kinda echo chambery then

[broken venture]

Except the 'nerf' wasn't to CoF. They lowered the XP you were getting from super high corruption. This indirectly lowers the amount of favor your getting as those two things are connected, but that would also lower the favor you'd get in MG for super high corruption.

Given that from the very math you're referencing the favor gain for everything EXCEPT super high corruption is higher, I'd argue that it's a net buff.

[red helm]

No i watched precise calculation done by valued members of this community. And you just want to be contrarian for the sake of it. Think of it however you want. I don’t have more time to explain basics.

[frosty pelican]

I think double boss drop might be intended to work for this but currently isn't? Not sure

[ruby pulsar]

Well that was helpful

[limpid plank]

CoF is nerfed all around. They moved a lot of impactful nodes to the end of the faction rewards, meaning casuals wont see them for very long. You need to be lvl 98 to get the chance to make an item exalted now, which is huge for gearing.

also boss drop 150% doesn't work on dungeon bosses for whatever dumb reason

So now you're only really getting impactful rewards at like...lvl 99/100? cof felt bad to me this go around.

[stiff wing]

MG is bad as well except to get a unique you want faster. The search interface is an absolute joke and people have no idea what might be valuable or not.

[limpid plank]

nemesis encroaches hard on CoF territory but also has no level/faction requirement.

[vivid ore]

almost one week now and this is still not fixed, i think the devs only tested for bosses in monolith and forgot about the rest

[limpid plank]

Yeah, when I went to try and farm a peak after finally getting the rank...i was like wtf? Then i did some boss monos and was like...oh.

[mortal ginkgo]

whats best lenses combo ?

[trail wyvern]

I like running 2x items, 2x times, and then whatever I'm hunting for

[left gale]

I know nothing, but it seems like running the only loot multipliers that we have access to is a no-brainer and then the 3rd slot is personal preference. I’m blocking arenas when I don’t have anything in particular I’m targeting and running the item type (exalted, unique, etc) when I specifically want that one.

[trail wyvern]

I usually had so much favor I could reroll to what I want. Blocking was kinda meh.

[hazy pike]

Did they fix COF 10 not working on dungeons yet?

Or COF 12 not doubling the 2x quantity lens?

[arctic seal]

wait what, it doesnt?

[hazy pike]

its been a fair while since release, a little bit bummed the COF is getting even more shafted

[arctic seal]

hold on, what do you mean cof 12 doesnt double the rewards? i thought it does?

[hazy pike]

it doubles base but it doesn't double 2x lens, on which it only adds 50% or sometimes 0

[arctic seal]

ooooh

[hazy pike]

the dungeon thing is the biggest bummer... getting 40% loot from running dungeons

all those sanctum runs for slams, losing 60% of my loot every time... just not gonna play til that gets fixed bc I need stardials and got a slam backlog

[hidden temple]

yeah i just noticed rank 12 doubles base, that is so disappointing

[hazy pike]

yeah i just swapped out my 2x lens for arena but I definitely blew like 400k favor before I changed that

I've delayed running the 2x lens prophs that I can delay in hopes itll work correctly retroactively on existing prophs once/if its fixed

[arctic seal]

so we should just run double use lense for now?

[mild jetty]

is the 80% more cost or the 90% more cost better?
or is there no strict better one?

[torpid vale]

@mild jetty I use both of them

[soft gate]

Was there any changes to make up for the favour nerf in monos or was it intended to make it harder to farm favour than before?

[torpid vale]

well I just feel the bosses take longer to kill now

[mild jetty]

I can't
I got to get rid of campaign and arena stuff, that takes up 2 lenses 🤔

[soft gate]

heh seems like a big success again, CoF is around 45% slower favour gain than before and MG is messed up with dupes, like last time 🙂

[vivid ore]

yea save ur keys if your build needs dungeon uniques

[torpid vale]

haha MG....sigh

I also wish we can skip arena in mono, annoying and boring to play
that game mode is super boring to some players like myself

[velvet matrix]

You're not alone in this. I dread every time it comes up but I look at it as practice on how to sustain my MP economy

[steep trellis]

Honestly this is a good game,but man you would think that things like rank rewards would work ,specially the ranks that are needed the most,like a skill is bugged I can wait for it to be fixed . So now gotta hoard those favor or keys until it gets fixed .what a disappointment 😔.

[spark thorn]

I just get out immediately if its arena

[kind saffron]

yo this game is bugged af. first crashing every 5 echoes and now i load into one and cannot move

[left gale]

I assume you made a bug report in game before coming to the cof chat?

[kind saffron]

was wondering if anyone has the same issue? bug reports dont do anything theyll say we are working on it but in a year the mem leaks arent fixed

[fresh sphinx]

Assuming you have the ranks, what do you guys prefer for lenses?

[jolly spire]

both doubles and whatever you're targeting
though the double items doesn't seem to play well with rank 12, so you can drop that one

[fresh sphinx]

You dont mind seeing things like Arena or Dungeon?

[jolly spire]

i have no beef with arena (only with the map sizes)
nothing against dungeons either, though the random walls are sometimes a hassle

i actually like arena, but i try not to say that out loud

[fresh sphinx]

Putting it another way, you dont mind whatever content a random Prophecy tells you to do

[jolly spire]

pretty much
while i would like a good nightbringer quiver, i don't have any boss that i particularly want to farm
it's nice to have variety

[tight valley]

anyone elses prophecies not in line with their icon?

[muted token]

Is there any purpose for gold in COF? I find myself with tons of it, with seemingly nothing to do with it

[tight valley]

theres a dungeon you can use gold at end to roll for chests. also stash tabs but main thing for me was the end of dungeon vault. lightless arbour i think but i rarely do dungeons so cant remember their names

[muted token]

Thought so, thank you for responding. Do the COF rank bonuses also apply to the chests in Lightless Arbor?

[tight valley]

as mentioned above i rarely do dungeons so that information i dont know about haha i just stick to monos mostly

id assume so for things like the set one at rank 4 since theres some that are specifically for monos and they say that

[kind saffron]

can i get a port to cof please? ign ChickenricebrocGains

[limpid plank]

No, they don't. There is a good amount of information on the chests at the end, but every time you decline, the next offer is more expensive in price to had you gotten it earlier. Usually it's best to try and get ascendancy runes, despair glyphs and as many chests/dupes as possible

[oak idol]

i hate this game and COF :D i spent last 3 days farming for amulet, ring, wand, armor, boots and belt. 3 DAYS! i got 2 no LP boots with bad rolls. and my friend is inviting me for his uniques too. i hate this game :P

[royal wren]

If I want to farm unique catalysts through prophecies, what are my best lens choices? A unique and a catalyst one? or?

[crimson obsidian]

Pick the catalyst one and then the two that give you double the rewards/uses but increase cost by 90%. Then just keep rerolling and pick every catalyst unique you can get. At least, that's what was suggested to me a while ago and works well. A bit rough early on due to reroll costs and such, so maybe not the best method for really early prophecy hunting

[worn delta]

Anyone having the siege golem prophecy never progressing despite killing loads of siege golems?

[crimson obsidian]

Yeah... I wonder if it's related to Siege Golem bosses or not 🤔 or a special rare version of them? But either way I haven't been able to complete one yet either.

[rose plover]

what lenses i should be using? i have only 1 slot now

[crimson obsidian]

Answered that two sentences up. Pick the lens of the unique that defines your build the most (i.e. catalyst if you're a sparkcharge build, unless you already have one of course) until you get that item at least.

the answer for lens slot 2 and 3 are in that same suggestion for the other person and it's universal across all builds for all classes. Once you can afford it and have that high a rank.

[rose plover]

ok thanks

what if i want to farm rare/exalted items or idols?

[modern iris]

is lvl 10 cof working at all? or maybe someone can explain how exactly it works? because im farming peak of the mountain and there is no drop sometimes. but with lvl 10 cof it should be +150% drop rate.

[jolly spire]

doesn't seem to work with dungeons
nobody knows if it's oversight or intentional

[fresh sphinx]

Devs confirmed its a bug

[jolly spire]

ah, finally

[fresh sphinx]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[arctic seal]

soon we can farm dungeons my brothers

[modern iris]

its been 3 days tho. i hope they will fix it asap

[soft gate]

Imperial war camp at 800 corruption is 200k favour an hour, anyone got suggestions for better mono maps to farm?

[modern iris]

im not sure there any better map

[final perch]

Anyone tell me how i know which monolit drop any item type

[golden needle]

Hey, tired of the MG issues and wanted to try something different - are "Rare/very rare" uniques in LETools reasonable to get eventually in COF?

[hazy elm]

red rings are easier to get in cof for example, its case by case basis, usually u can expect to get anything with at least 2lp, except super top tier items

[golden needle]

Thanks - the main item I was thinking is blood roost - and double of onos tull but that's common - maybe razorfall too.

[hazy elm]

all should be ez

[warm torrent]

I’ve got all of them with 2 lp today at level 10 cof

[hazy elm]

bleed falconer enjoyers?

[normal meadow]

Hey there. I'm over the gold exploit stuff over at market now so how exactly does cof work, especially since I have to gear out for a bleed falconer?

[broken venture]

Every rank gives you 5% increased favor gain and per the math you'd need to be in 4k corruption or higher before you're gaining less favor than you were before.

[hazy elm]

check out @frosty pelican yt channel, he has compreshansive guide and details on how cof works and what u want to do to succeed

[broken venture]

I'm actually building one right now. Peirce as my main attack, focusing on bleed and shred.

Going 15 into Marksman to get Dark Quiver along with the 50% chance to shred armor with 50% more effect on armor shred.

[modern iris]

we want rank 10 cof bug fix to succeed 😄

[hazy elm]

its only dungeons right?

[normal meadow]

Gotcha thank you so much

[modern iris]

Mike said its all bosses outside monos and aberroth

but when im getting 1 item from shade of orobyss idk 😄

[normal meadow]

Also, what would you guys say are the most important core uniques/gear pieces for bleed falcon?

[hazy elm]

im confused now isnt that dungeons only, ooh and arena of champions ig

[broken venture]

Also getting the third shot empowers Peirce to get the node that consumes all bleed to make it deal the damage instantly.

[hazy elm]

gloves

[modern iris]

look here #⭕┃circle-of-fortune message

x2.5 loot for aberroth would be good right

[normal meadow]

That's it? What type of gloves?

[broken venture]

Do we know how those gloves interact with the node in Falconry that gives your bird up to 100% of your own bleed chance?

[broken venture]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcGZwJiA

[normal meadow]

OK cool. And are they pretty easy to get/farm lp for?

[modern iris]

it is mentioned in the link

[normal meadow]

Gotcha tysm

[fresh sphinx]

So how should I (a casual) farm favor this patch?

[broken venture]

However you were doing it previously.

[fresh sphinx]

so not at all, such good advice 😄

[hazy elm]

play a fast build on 500 cor

[hazy pike]

cOF 12 is intended not to work with runes?

[livid spruce]

Yes

[gleaming mirage]

There's a soft cap at 300 corruption now, which is the balance reference point for endgame too, so that's a good goal to keep in mind

[tough cosmos]

whats a good build that can do 300 corruption easy?

[gleaming mirage]

A bleed falconer will tear through anything, or so I heard

[tough cosmos]

let me take a looksy

[gleaming mirage]

But you can do 300 corruption on a homecooked build too as long as there's some thought put into it

[tough cosmos]

anyone able to give me newbie character the waypoint to COF please?

[gray ermine]

x2 RR x2 Rav and an Orians... Not a bad week 1 so far... All 0lp and failed empower though

[flint dove]

Shade of Orobis is also bugged right? (not dropping 150% loot)

[arctic seal]

yup

[livid spruce]

Mike said everything outside the monolith is bugged, which kinda implies the Shade works fine. It may or may not, though.

[mellow nacelle]

could someone help me im trying to join a faction early on

[stoic trench]

Does COF Rank 12 work with idols? Is it just runes that it doesnt work with?

[signal iris]

550c is the best corr for cof favor farm right? Just want to confirm again tnx

[arctic seal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DLiKBOApPtBBm5prr185HU-iYM9k28ENFgz-voXpB-4/edit?gid=269012209#gid=269012209

push to 900-1k if you can

[spark thorn]

who made this s/s? looks great

[gleaming mirage]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/scaling
There's two softcaps, at 300 and 1000, the difference between 300 and 1000 in terms of XP gain is a factor of 1.5x
(it's actually less because monster mods from echos are additive; XP gain = favor gain)
My recommendation would be to get to 300 and then only keep pushing if it's too easy
Because if it takes you 3x as long to kill something for 1.5x the XP, it's not worth

[signal iris]

Thanks

[velvet matrix]

That's an awesome piece of information, thanks Des!

Any tips on how to push corruption high? So far the highest I have in a mono right now is 153

[stiff wing]

Get a few gaze of orobyss, kill orobyss, rinse and repeat

[velvet matrix]

Good to know, thanks Ramza! And just standard affair when stabalising a mono? Straightest, furthest path?

[arctic seal]

another day went by without a fix to cof R10 perk

[tulip yew]

Fix? Is it not working?

[limber minnow]

Push as far past 300c as you can. Once you start clearing about 50% slower then stop.

Item rarity is still important for higher corruption.

[arctic seal]

still doesnt work in dungeons, you know, the end game content that this game desperately lacks?

[unreal shard]

going to give up on MG after recent events, I'm at rank 5 there, almost getting to empowered monos, should it take a long time for me to catch up with my rank at CoF?

[stiff wing]

The further the better. I usually do Orobyss once I got 2-3 gazes depending on available time and mood.

[arctic seal]

rank 5 takes no time at all

[unreal shard]

nice, ty

[tulip yew]

unlucky, hopefully its fixed soon

[sand bay]

just an mg refugee, looking for suggestions on ssf builds that could do around 500cor more or less

[crude cipher]

hey anyone know fastest way to farm "deaths of a boss" prophecy? what counts as a boss

[azure ice]

pretty much everything on maxroll and frozensentinel made a strong build too, you can find it on youtube

[velvet matrix]

That's beautiful, thank you very much!

[sand bay]

got some recommendations ? empty stash and all that

[warm torrent]

Warlock feels op with very little gear

[azure ice]

I would go with frozensentinel. Out of all the guides his is the most thorough and he is COF and discusses how to gear as COF. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrDFooDWruI

[sand bay]

alright, ill give him a watch when I get back from work, much appreciated 😘

[azure ice]

yes welcome to COF!