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unreal nest
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that is a delusional goal

jolly trail
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i'd be interested in seeing that data

noble wedge
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i dont think they should make them equal

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it makes no sense

jolly trail
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that was their goal....

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i didn't start as an op spec. so ive not farmed the 1000, 2000, etc

unreal nest
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There will never be a substitute they can add to CoF that will outshine 1000's of people farming and listing items. (Unless they make CoF so overpowered that its no longer equal in the other direction)

noble wedge
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exactly

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hence making them equal makes no sense

unreal nest
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i cant even believe EHG ever said it (i read it, i know they did), because its such a delusional goal

jolly trail
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they want them equal. if it becomes a 1 faction game then they will have lost a big aspect of the game

noble wedge
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ssf players will always choose cof over mg

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so it will never be a 1 faction game

unreal nest
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Sure - they "want" them equal - but thats not a realistic goal. Gamers Min-max the fun out of everything. If any faction has a slight edge, there will be a better option.

noble wedge
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people who play and push meta are in the minority

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they will always be mg

jolly trail
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i think for next season they need to buff boss drops and lp for cof.

unreal nest
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yea, that will be nice - but still wont make it equal with MG

jolly trail
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if they can get it a lot closer then that will be fine

noble wedge
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they wont

jolly trail
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i wouldn't mind them making cof better. a lot of the "meta" players are p2w

unreal nest
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but it will never be close enough. So lets say they give us some perk that gives us a higher chance of getting Lp on Boss drops and drops 2 items from their table per kill - great right? Except it doesnt matter, because in MG there are still 1000's of people killing that boss - and the chance that one of them strikes gold and hits a 4LP is higher than any amount of kills a single player can put in

sleek parrot
unreal nest
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EHG should lean into CoF and MG being different experiences for different types of players - and avoid any reference to "equal"

tulip sonnet
jolly trail
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i have like 10 tabs of uniques and i dont think there is a spec out there that would burn an obsidian on for any piece

regal jetty
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do the double drop for prophecy lenses stack?
like can i have 3 at once

jolly trail
regal jetty
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ah damn

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alright ty

jolly trail
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the two variants do

lean vault
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Ah hi guys I know im supid but how do I actually do this

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the prophecy my current one (my first one) says "event: death of a boss" I've killed a boiss but nothing happened

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😦

unreal nest
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below that is a second bubble with the "Condition" - it may say "Monolith (140 corruption" or a specific timeline, or nothing at all

lean vault
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It says "Condition: none"

unreal nest
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and next to death of a boss does it have a counter? 0/3 for example?

lean vault
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ohh It just says "3"

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it doesnt say 0/3

stable hamlet
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Is there anyone that is in COF with rank 10 that wants to join our group for prophecy stacking?

solid seal
jolly trail
solid seal
stable hamlet
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Plus we have to make sure our builds dont collide.

jolly trail
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how much rerolling do you use to get stacked ones?

lean vault
solid seal
jolly trail
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i usually run both bonus loot lenses

lean vault
jolly trail
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seems like a shot in the dark to find others doing the same types as me but not the same items

stable hamlet
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I posted in LFG the specifics

lean vault
solid seal
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yea, on event, you have to have 3 boss kills to get the reward

lean vault
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Ahh okay

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and if i kill one does that number drop to 2?

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like,visibly?

solid seal
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it doesn't change the number, but it internally tracks it

lean vault
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Okay that makes sense. Thanks a lot for the help. I rlly appreciate it

solid seal
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np, glhf

rapid garnet
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Hey all new to COF, I only really want to run monos, is there a method to only have those prophecies?

molten oar
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you can use lenses that block specific kinds of prophecies, but other lenses are usually better

rapid garnet
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So do you just go kill campaign bosses etc when needed or avoid and reroll?

molten oar
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you can either skip or wait until you stack up multiple prophecies for the same thing and do them all at once

pure hinge
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what are good lenses if not the ones that block a task?

lean vault
solid seal
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congrats!

molten oar
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the double reward and double uses ones are really strong if you have the required rank, then pick another one based on what you're actually looking for

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in the very early ranks then blocking can actually be okay since most other lense effects scale with rank

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but rolling with like 1 type blocked doesn't really change much either

twin vigil
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Source: trust me bro

No one is forcing you to deal with it, if market fluctuations hurt you that bad, just play CoF 🤷🏻‍♂️

chrome smelt
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Is "COF gear" signified by the purple cof icon and level? Thinking of swapping to MG so wondering what all I would not be able to use anymore

unreal nest
elder torrent
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omg is that a heckin exalt node ? im gona , im gonna LOOT

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350?!°

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dont sleep on the 5x9x exalt prophecies y0

zealous finch
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hey guys we have basically want all of the best t7 rolls come group with us and give us all the loot and we'll give you t7 mana regen

elder torrent
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what an odd thing

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i guess the soi enjoyers are getting desperate

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really damn werd to post it here too

lean vault
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Okay next stupid question. Do I hav eto hand prophecies in>?

elder torrent
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no they clear themselves dawg

unreal nest
elder torrent
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they pop once ripe

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likea pimple

lean vault
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Perfect cheers @unreal nest

elder torrent
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hey i demand thanks too

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its called circle of fortune not circle of for you !

lean vault
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Thank to you too @elder torrent

elder torrent
lean vault
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my pleasure

elder torrent
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ayylmao we wuz GODS

echo phoenix
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There's quite a few builds viable other than that, that would look for t7 str / vit / attunement or some stuff like +levels

gritty delta
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Question. How the hell can i finde the monstertype of a proppecies easy as an noob?

echo phoenix
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I just wouldn't focus on that tbh and would just focus on grinding stuff / getting more prophecies

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eventually you will run into them

unreal nest
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agreed - unless your prophecy tab is FULL and you need to actually clear some out and have a ton for a certian monster type - just go about your business - you'll hit em eventually.

noble wedge
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Nah its better to invest 100k in single boss prophecy, have hundreds of loot drop and nothing usable 😄

silver stump
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has there been any acknowledgement on the issue of selecting 1 prophecy and then getting a different one?

azure bough
solid seal
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then click on the monster to see the details of which campaign zones or timelines they spawn in.

gritty delta
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For the csmpain yes bur whats with the monolyth?

solid seal
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Say I have a prophecy to kill 6 Siege Golems in monoliths. I can filter to show monoliths only then search Siege Golem. When I click Siege Golem, I get the details of the monster. The monolith timelines it spawns in are Storm, Lance, Dragons, Sun, Fire, and Winter.

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In monoliths, monsters aren't tied to specific echo types. They are part of curated monster packs assigned to each timeline that can be randomly selected as the population for an echo

zealous finch
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calling people braindead monkeys when you're playing the three most meta builds in the game 🤔

cedar egret
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Right? Imagine giving a $hitz what other people do in a game that doesn't directly affect you. 😂

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Meh or I could just keep going on with my day and not even read your whole response to what you said 😉😘

toxic spindle
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When starting out with CoF, should i just spend all my favour and stack a load of prophecies whilst i'm farming monos?

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i.e. is there any down side to grabbing multiple at once

topaz basin
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no quite hte opposite, getting more at once is more effecient time wise

toxic spindle
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Thanks, assumed so but wanted to check I hadn't missed anything

unreal nest
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I actually pooled my favor while I was Rank 8 - because the R9 benefit of an additional Lens is really solid. So once I hit 9 - i dumped all my favor at once into prophecies, and gave me a nice boost towards R10.

lapis sigil
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Assume I want a sealed lvl 1 prefix on an item that has an open prefix spot. Do I need do two crafts.... (1) put on T1 prefix mod and then (2) seal prefix mod? Or can you use a seal when putting on the T1 mod?

livid spruce
lapis sigil
pallid sparrow
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lunar escarp
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that's not how statistics work; to have a 90% probability to get a 3 lp ladle once, you would need to drop about 179 ladles

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fo 99% probability it would be 358 drops

elder torrent
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ive this weird bug that prophecy blades dont come with melee lightningdmg basemeleecrit t7 dual plus fillers

white narwhal
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is it very rare to find "spell dmg/- mana cost" ?
Can't fine a t6, imagine a t7 😄

elder torrent
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grind issue

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not a rare affix

jolly trail
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an MG filter to just stash away all your good stuff is not a bad place to start

white narwhal
jolly trail
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perfect t7 are hard to find

white narwhal
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a t6 it's ok, i have a 3lp frozen ire to slap on

next cape
jolly trail
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thats a pretty good summary of cof

elder torrent
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cries in no swipe 4 exalted food

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im saveing mirrors for that

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is it stupiud yes ? do they drop no

white narwhal
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i'll keep grinding 😄

elder torrent
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eternal struggle

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but cof is good doe

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who wants to trade not me

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sweats nervously

next cape
white narwhal
next cape
white narwhal
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just entered 8

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hope to farm faster at corr 300

keen epoch
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if youre only rank 8 then youre still pretty early in the grand scheme of the solo self found grind

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just keep goin

white narwhal
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i try to maximixe 1 single map now, more rarity more good things

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want 2/3 lp frostbite 😄

keen epoch
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its most efficient to speedrun maps and target exp rewards. 90%+ of your items will come from prophecies

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no real reason to stay in 1 map for long since the time spent outside of maps is like 10 seconds at most

white narwhal
jolly trail
keen epoch
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if your build needs really well rolled legendary items to do high corruption, its just a bad build for SSF

supple magnet
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It's just RNG, I've killed the dragon like 20 times and still no Twisted Heart. Not a single drop, even 0 LP. So boss drops can be painful to get

supple magnet
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And got both gloves and boots from lich on second kill

silent wadi
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got a lot hearts at 250-300 about every third 3 kill but always no lp. prophecies cant drop it so continue farming that mono and push corruption

ocean ravine
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Boss kill prophecies can drop the boss loot? That’s not true is it?

vague birch
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they can't, so no, it's not true

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(they should, imo. Perhaps a bug?)

ocean ravine
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Ya ok thought so

solid seal
jolly trail
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does xp from blessing help with proph?

unreal nest
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all XP gained impacts Rep and Favor

tulip pilot
solid seal
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More experience = More Favor = More Prophecies you can buy

jolly trail
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im surprised more builds dont default xp

unreal nest
jolly trail
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can i use a mage exalted chest to make a legendary as a rogue?

tulip pilot
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yus

frail hare
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i really dislike that part of the legendary system. rolls that one might want for one class on a slot can be locked to a piece of exalted gear on a different class, one that you might not play and likely dont have gear for since, well, it doesnt really drop without playing the class.

stable hamlet
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could someone trade/gift me a Talon of Valor? :c

pastel tangle
frail hare
inner garnet
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hey guys if i switch back to merchant the quests i took from telescope stuff remains or not?

frail hare
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i guess i wasnt really discriptive of the issue either, my bad

pastel tangle
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cof doesn't really have that issue though, if you are targeting exalts with prophecies you end up with a lot of high tier off class items

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especially using the rare strategy

pastel tangle
inner garnet
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oh i got it

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for a sec i thought you say you lose your favors lol

pastel tangle
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yeah best to run the ones you don't want to lose before switching

inner garnet
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Thanks for this info really appreciate it

pastel tangle
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np

grave dock
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my first LP1 prophecy rewards were all LP1, not over it. Will keep testing to see if I ever get above LP1 kek

tulip pilot
grave dock
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people said it's at least 1 but I haven't read anyone get over LP1 yet lol

nocturne stirrup
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i made a new char

i got all my idol slots and passive points

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but i still need to do campaign just to unlock observatory?

tulip pilot
glossy crystal
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or do the dungeon skip

tulip pilot
grave dock
solid seal
grave dock
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nice doods. looking forward to getting some LP4 gear 🥂

slim veldt
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Okay so runemaster is a ducking joke looking for these + to Frost claw helms .

What's a good build for CoF . Can do around 800 corruption, and can do it fast.

Ty

sacred spruce
slim veldt
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Even that needs the + to Frost claw right ?

sacred spruce
slim veldt
sacred spruce
white narwhal
sacred spruce
white narwhal
sacred spruce
white narwhal
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i'm doing scepter prophecy becouse i found a 3lp frozen ire but never found a t6 spell/mana

nova mountain
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Is it possible to get Atlaria ring from prophecy

sacred spruce
nova mountain
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Damn, gotta grind it then

lean vault
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What sort of forging potential do you guys consider a good base? I'm just getting into all the crafting

nova mountain
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Depends on drop rate

livid spruce
jolly spire
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the only thing about potential
is that stuff from npc shop seems to cap out at 30 FP

frail hare
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you wouldnt wanna check merchants anyway

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the only good merchant is soul bro 😎

echo phoenix
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And good is an overstatement

jolly trail
nova mountain
jolly trail
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it takes a lot. make sure to only use them on rings with cof req

wispy junco
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Hi can u have one chatacter in circle of fortune and another in merch?

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Or will u leave on both chatacters

dim plaza
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any tips (other than prophecieis) for target farming exalted belt / relic ?

foggy shell
dim plaza
foggy shell
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No, that should be CoF 10.

proud shale
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Hey!
Is it worth to combine both Greater Lenses (80 & 90% more cost) to buy prophecies in late game?

cedar hedge
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does it matter where you put the lens, or it will work anywhere?

proud shale
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it matter when you put it

cedar hedge
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so, a greater lens will only work for it's own telescope?

proud shale
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yes

jolly trail
molten oar
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blocking arena is significantly worse than targeting a specific item base even if you skip all arenas

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but yeah, the 80%/90% cost prophecies are the best

nova mountain
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Btw are cof players supposed to have much money 😦

unreal nest
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early on when you are buying loads of stash tabs - not really - but as you push corruption and tighten up your filter - gold becomes a non issue very quickly.

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now with the reduction in stash prices I think it would be easier than it was for some of us early cycle.

civic raft
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if you want money money it's the other faction :p

jolly trail
jolly trail
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there are a few where i would just go for 1 item

pastel tangle
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i've seen this question asked so many times

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we finally have an answer

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first time i went to MG i made 20m, then when I filled up the stash tabs i went back on an alt two days ago and now i'm up 50m and having to convince myself not to arbor gamble

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this game needs a hotline

solid seal
pastel tangle
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lol cof players who spend all their money at arbor are just hopeless cause you need that cash for tabs to fill with prophecy gear

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it's really a simple equation there

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you're reducing your ability to hold stuff at the same time as adding more stuff

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my wife doesn't understand that kind of math though so i guess it's not uncommon

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if EHG were diabolical they'd gate some GG unique as vault only

solid seal
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they are struggling with RMT as it is with MG, not sure gatekeeping a GG item behind a gold sink is a good move

pastel tangle
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well unless they are providing the gold, having the RMTers sink it instead of inflate the economy would just fix it entirely

sleek parrot
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That be funny to watch

latent river
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are prophecies for dungeons that are for L2 for example, completed if you do L4?

jolly spire
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yes

chrome smelt
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Best way to farm gold as COF? Can't even keep up with all the drops now that stash tabs are over 150k each again

unreal nest
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Push corruption higher so more gold drops - restrict your loot filter - do gold node echoes

chrome smelt
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That is depressing

unreal nest
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Chances are you are stashing alot of garbage

jolly trail
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whats a good timeline to push to 1k?

chrome smelt
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Yes 100%, just counted today and I have gotten 14 vileroots (or whatever the druid spriggan tree chest piece is called) during the last 3 days whilst trying to farm for unstable core...

unreal nest
jolly trail
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i dont need any specific timeline boss dorps

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is there a timeline that's easier than another?

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i hate the poison guys and the axe throw bleed guys. i dont pay enough attention to where im at tho

solid seal
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Abom in Outcast and Formosus in death are good to cycle prophecies. You don't complete the objectives after killing the boss so you won't get boss specific loot, but prophecies continue to pay out. Costs 50 stability every time you attempt the boss. If you want to quickly cycle the "death of any boss" prophecies, Outcast's Aboms and its four soul repositories count as 5 separate bosses.

frail hare
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yeah but he wants to complete it to push to 1k, that runs against what he's looking to do

solid seal
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oh, then just blast. Can always check the bestiary, filter by monoloth activity and poison/phys tags to narrow down which timeline is easiest (probably ruin or winter that has more void monsters)

jolly trail
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I'm mainly looking for something with trash npc that aren't bad.

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I just want to fly through on my marks

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Favor at 100 is so low

solid seal
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I need to eventually blast Spirits of Fire, its sub 200 which is discouraging on the favor front. There isn't a prophecy condition for that timeline, so I just never went to it after getting my blessing

frail hare
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i'd say its mostly about the bosses and how tanky your build is. if you arent that tanky, even some easier bosses like frostlich can be a pita.

if i die one more time because he placed the random instant DoT that he puts anywhere without a telegraph on the map directly below me, and i then, after reacting fast enough to not die, transplant right ontop of the other one and die, ill throw my pc out of the window

elder torrent
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you guys got any of that favor for me ?

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i need * scratches neck * some more

tulip pilot
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Any of you pros got some tips on the most effective way to grind for the ravenous gloves?

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So far what ive heard is push corruption in the last ruin and fight the Husk farthest away from the main island, is this accurate?

cedar ridge
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when should i start spending on prophecies ?

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im level 72, running normal mono level 85 atm

static sedge
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Is the red ring farmable or is it an Uber unique?

odd palm
tulip pilot
solid seal
# static sedge Is the red ring farmable or is it an Uber unique?

Has a very rare chance from the "Unique or Set Gloves" echo reward. The drop chance from those exclusive reward echoes, not the boss, increases with corruption and distance from the center. The drop chance from Rune of Ascendance and as a random drop is worse (extremely rare).

static sedge
midnight pollen
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Hello, i think that there is already the answer but i didn’t find it. The rewards prophecies one lp is 1 LP or at least 1 LP pls? And, if this is only one LP, the prophecies unique is better? Pls ping me for answers

solid seal
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Same applies to Weaver's Will 8 and 16.

midnight pollen
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Ho nice, thx!!

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And have you any idea of the luck?

solid seal
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if you don't want to do the math, higher corruption = better LP chance. Rune of Ascendancy has lower chance of having LP compared to prophecy and random world drops.

midnight pollen
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I have already questions:
This is +5%?
How i make the math with the prophecies one LP?
How work the rank 6 cof pls?
Yes, i have never find good article, forum with the math.

solid seal
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5% = LP chance x 1.05. Rank 6 doubles the chance.

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Item With LP chance = (Item Drop Chance) x (Item LP Chance) x (Corruption Scaling) x (CoF Rank 6 Scaling) x (1 - Unique Reroll Chance)

shell belfry
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maaaan spending 17k favor on a proph for it to give you the wrong one is a major L

midnight pollen
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Ok thx, i am already lost for the propecies because there is no item with 0 LP.

solid seal
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Just about every unique item can drop with 0 LP except Julia's Stardial unique ring (maybe others). The drop rate (Common, Uncommon, Rare, Very Rare, Extremely Rare) clues you into the chances of getting at least a 0 LP unique. Maybe someone has a list of the exact drop rates. I previously used the Rune of Ascendance simulator just to estimate reward types. The pool of possible rewards will have differences (unique rewards won't drop sets), but it's close enough to get an idea. https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/ascsim

blazing gale
feral tide
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how long would it take to 1-10 CoF if doing corruption 300?

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honestly can not stand MG anymore

pastel tangle
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it might take a minute but it felt way faster than MG

cedar ridge
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Hi there, how can i sue CoF favors to increase chance to loot soulfire bastion kez ?

pastel tangle
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and you won't notice the grind as much because you will be actively getting tons of loot as you spend favor

steep grove
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Do we know what causes the prophecy item bug? 4/5 times I have bought prophecies it then changes the item when I check it in the faction UI. I buy swords it changes to staves, for example. Or set rings changed to unique rings.

pastel tangle
steep grove
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I already added my bug report but want to know if anyone knows what triggers it

As it stands the faction is largely useless to me as I can't use it's major source of targeted gear

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If I can't figure out the trigger then I'll have to change faction until it's fixed

pastel tangle
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I know this game has UI layering issues and i start to get weird stuff happening when it runs for more than a few hours so i just restart every time i think about it

jolly trail
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yeah they really missed the mark on boss drops

steep grove
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I'll see if it amends itself when I log in tomorrow

jolly trail
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the lvl 70+ stuff isn't very farmable either

pastel tangle
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i feel like boss drops have been alright, the increased lp chance works for sure

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it definitely needs work though

jolly trail
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have to settle for 1 or 2 lp lower than mg players it feels like

pastel tangle
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best way to get any exalt is to farm the rare version of the prophecy

jolly trail
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once i get my marks into 1200+ ill see how i feel about cof

pastel tangle
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i don't think 3 or 4lp should be that easy to get, it's already infinitely easier than beta to get 3lp

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and 4lp

jolly trail
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ive only played higher cor with other hosts so im sure once i can really farm it won't be as bad.

pastel tangle
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the real inflation is in peoples expectations, you shouldn't be able to compete with the high end of the market with CoF in the long run that's the whole point

jolly trail
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even gearing warpath to 300c was a lot of effort on cof where -1 lp from bis was basically free on mg

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mg is stronger for about everyone lol

pastel tangle
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it's definitely not, unless someone is RMT'ing they will be behind for a while because not only is LP more common but you get about a billion more good bases to slam instead of having to buy them , and infinite crafting mats

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my bd had gear for 500c by day 2 in cof

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gearing for off meta is just super easy in MG, but nothing you use is safe

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reens were relatively cheap until recently..

raw pollen
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new player here, i play an hour a night at most, would MG or COF be better?

unreal nest
raw pollen
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sounds good to me!

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ty!

velvet matrix
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I play to a particular build, rank 7 already in CoF. Worth staying in to grind it out for better affixes and the life?

unreal nest
velvet matrix
# unreal nest Can you reword your question - not really sure what you're asking about here

Yeah, sorry, it's late here.

I play to only one build on one toon. I'm looking to maximise my build further, a better relic for example and affixes on gear that are better suited to smash for a Legendary.

Currently I'm rank 7 in CoF, nearing on 8. Am I better off staying in Circle of Fortune and grind out the prophecies and the like or swap to Merchants Guild?

unreal nest
# velvet matrix Yeah, sorry, it's late here. I play to only one build on one toon. I'm looking ...

There isn't a right answer here. CoF and MG are differently approaches to the game. If you feel like you need an absolute min-maxed item to make your playtime enjoyable - MG is the clear winner. But you will need to learn the economy and stay ahead of the market to make sure you can afford what you want. Playing meta builds is expensive in MG.

If you are ok with making it work with what you find - CoF provides a long term experience where you farm for your targetted upgrades - but you may never get them.

velvet matrix
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Doing the Wraith Lord build and really enjoying it. Pushing to Corruption 200 and see how far I can get. I'm hoping with higher corruption and targeted prophecies I can round out my gear better

onyx escarp
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If you just want to clear stuff at 200-300 corruption, it actually is a lot easier as MG

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Since the 0/1LP stuff for most builds are mostly completely free as MG

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It's only when you're pushing for higher corruption that you need to keep up with the market and need gold to buy upgrades

velvet matrix
# onyx escarp Since the 0/1LP stuff for most builds are mostly completely free as MG

Luckily I already have all that. I need a Exalted relic and a few better RNG rolls on prefixes and the like but already doing well enough.

I'm going to push as high as I can. I really don't have the time nor the interest to learn the market and spend time on it.

I get the impression that, since I want to push as high as possible, I'm likely better off staying in CoF and pray to the RNG fairy that I've been a good goober.

onyx escarp
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If you have access to infinite gold, MG is better for pushing too due to pure economics since you essentially have the entire MG player base mfing for you but yeah for the average casual player, CoF requires less thinking even if your overall progress will be slightly slower

velvet matrix
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I'm alright with that, don't have infinite time and don't have access to infinite gold, just the drive to chase that affix.

I appreciate the explanations, just reinforces that I made the right choice 'cause I ain't got time for that.

vale wolf
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can I make a new character on merchants guild if my current characters are all CoF? will it effect my CoF on my current characters?

solid seal
# vale wolf can I make a new character on merchants guild if my current characters are all C...

Yes. Your new character can join MG. If it is not aligned with CoF, simply joining MG will have no effect on your CoF progression/characters. If the character is already aligned with CoF and you switch from CoF to MG, then your CoF favor would reset. The reputation you've accumulated never changes when you join or switch factions (allows you to switch back and pick up where you left off if you only had 1 character). You also wouldn't be able to equip any CoF restricted items (gear, idols) and would have to resolve any gear issues before leaving the bazaar. I've heard switching also resets your active prophecies or bazaar sales. No clue about that.

vale wolf
#

ok, not planning on switching, just having a new character specifically for MG

solid seal
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you should be fine.

vale wolf
#

thanks

silk lichen
#

for prophecies with 1lp, can it roll 3-4LP on drop?

grave dock
#

apparently yes, but super rare

west dirge
#

can i join cof without finishing campaign?

spare valve
#

if you have someone to tp you to act 9 yes, or if you had a char that already joined a faction prior you have the option of joining either in the town of the first act.

velvet matrix
wicked berry
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what are your strat to target farm ?

velvet matrix
# wicked berry what are your strat to target farm ?

For me, I target a Monolith that drops the item type I'm going for, such as Relics, and then push to increase corruption as high as possible while rolling prophecies. I use the relic lens and exaulted lens, in my example, to help increase the chance of the prophecy being what I want.

So really I grind Monolith for an hour, then Prophecies, then hit the prophecies and run back to the Monolith to target farm and increase my CoF currency to repeat the process again.

It keeps things interesting for me. May not be efficient but it maximises my fun and variety is the spice of life.

wicked berry
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but I'm wondering if there's no better way to go about it, like blocking monolith and arena and go dungeon only, or blocking monolith and dungeon and go arena only

velvet matrix
# wicked berry but I'm wondering if there's no better way to go about it, like blocking monolit...

You could do that but if you have two out of the three lenses unlocked then you're losing out on increasing your chances on the prophecy being Exaulted or Unique. Or, if you really really really need that item type specifically, slap on two lenses of the same type so that your prophecy rolls have a high chance of getting that type. Personally, I don't see the point as you can only grab one prophecy per roll. May as well use the other lens to increase the chance for a unique or Exaulted.

I don't mind running dungeons or arena. I don't enjoy them but because I can teleport I can go from the start of Temporal Sanctum to the end in about five minutes or less.

wicked berry
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I have three lenses unlocked

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I think I'll do a few tests

velvet matrix
velvet matrix
# wicked berry I think I'll do a few tests

I've seen a few YouTubers go with one lens being the item target and the other two for increasing the amount of rewards and the amount of times you can run the prophecy.

It does increase the cost but it also is, pound for pound, cheaper that way too.

It also means you're not buying as many prophecies as often and instead focusing on getting showered on loot.

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Right now I only have two lens slots unlocked, currently working on the third.

wicked berry
#

you're far from it ?

velvet matrix
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I don't think so, I'm about halfway to tier 8 rewards I think. Not near my PC at the moment but not far now. I spend prophecies to increase the rank and do the usual stuff.

#

I'm thinking of rolling a new toon though. Level 96 and may want to try something else.

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But I'm also, frankly, having tons of fun. When I play I go on a call with my partner so it's all dopamine

tulip pilot
#

Man... im spending 49k favour on ring prophecies and yet i get mostly amulets what the hell...

craggy terrace
#

Lol

junior mason
#

Does playing in group give me any benefit to CoF?

velvet matrix
#

Probably clear the content faster, I'd imagine, and if you get the currency can trade gear. Otherwise, I cannot say for sure.

junior mason
#

but CoF tagged items cannot be traded to another one right?

round ember
midnight totem
#

I still get messed up with thinking generic armor = body armor too

tulip pilot
round ember
#

ive almost got 2 lvls 100s and just now hit rank 9 COF - is it supposed to take this long? you only gain rep from gaining XP and spending favor right?

unreal nest
#

What level corruption have you been running?

round ember
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200 farming grand blessings/build uniques

#

is that just too low corruption?

supple halo
#

if I have a char in mg and a separate char in cof, and I want to switch a 3rd char from mg to cof, which characters lose favor? all my chars?

tulip pilot
round ember
tulip pilot
sturdy cradle
#

Someone want to join me in new character CoF ? (rogue) lvl 4 atm

tulip pilot
#

I think i need to turn on streamer mode to get my ravenous 🤔

unreal nest
#

Completing a Prophecy does not grant Rep. Spending the favor does.

oblique relic
#

do you get favor by rerolling the prophecies?

night agate
#

Can you use two of the same lenses? So could I use two refracting lenses of wealth and it stacks? Is it worth doing that?

supple halo
supple halo
night agate
oblique relic
jolly trail
frail hare
jolly trail
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Golden's nearly worthless. Idols, rares, and lp0

frail hare
#

Yeah, i made a feedback suggestion regarding that on their forum. A currency system would be better, based on rarity of the item and lp.

jolly trail
#

I've played a lot of hours with someone and only gotten 1 obsidian

frail hare
#

Hours is irrelevant afaik. Its based on exp i think? Or killcount or something

jolly trail
#

Just more reasons for cof sucking off-meta then I guess

velvet matrix
#

sucking off?

gleaming dagger
#

It's what the ghosts call passing to the afterlife.

junior mason
jolly trail
teal path
#

Does completing the prophecies give rep for the faction? Or just the killing of enemies/spending of points

unreal nest
#

Earning and Spending favor gives you rep. Favor is earned from XP gained.

cedar wren
#

24 lightless arbor runs without a chest. cof needs a better boss drop system

grave dock
#

T4?

upbeat hatch
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chest armor ... or chest ... container? the containers only "drop" on T4 @cedar wren

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on that note, are arbor runs "meta" for gearing?

white narwhal
#

it takes 4ver for leveling cof, my god, only level 7,5 after 100h

upbeat hatch
#

its the same w/ MG isn't it? It's just that in MG the last two levels don't matter where-as they kind of do for COF. Well 9 is kind of useless, but 10 is decent for extra craft chances

white narwhal
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dunno, maybe i change faction on my alt, bored of failing lot of lp1/2, these on MG are like for free

upbeat hatch
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yes and no, theres a "funness" downside where things can come too easily but i plan on MG on my alt lol

white narwhal
#

But, assume u paid a lot for a 3lp item and the only bonus u need just dont fit into

#

that's me with frozen ire but on COF :D, never again

upbeat hatch
#

what has me frozen in COF is that all my gear requires it so im locked in lol

white narwhal
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i have just 1 item requiring cof

upbeat hatch
#

after 100 hours in cof???

white narwhal
#

yes, i'm on corr 300

jolly trail
white narwhal
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like 35k dps on frostclaw

white narwhal
upbeat hatch
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im surprised you're only 300c after 100 hours 😅

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also "35k dps on frostclaw" sounds very meta to me

white narwhal
jolly trail
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I hope they log a lot of stuff like drops. I wouldn't be surprised at all if mg is out farming cof if you divide the loot by hours played.

jolly trail
white narwhal
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i was really unlucky with blessings, i did prophecy along maps, this has slowed me up a lot

#

i learnt the lesson now

#

why my "cof" item are like 10%? stashed too wtf

jolly trail
#

I didn't use XP blessing for a while either. I didn't think it worked on favor.

#

At 1k+ the favor is very good. Cof doesn't feel as bad. Not many options to make that push easily. Stuck playing a few meta specs that gear well.

white narwhal
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at 300 i start gaining lot of favor, 1000 to far, gotta change sicn ei'm noob

analog vortex
hidden geyser
#

there are people who have a slower gameplay speed
they don't just go zoom zoom zoom like power players or streamers

white narwhal
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i'll take few days off sicne this 3lp frozen ire failed

jolly trail
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soloed it at like lvl55 in coop. other guy wasn't even paying attention yet and it was dead

white narwhal
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i struggle with orobyss at 330 with meta build 😄, how much can i be unskilled borthers

hidden geyser
#

as long as you have fun that's all that matters
i had a lot of fun building my own builds
one of the strenghts of this game is that you can do that and do most if not all of your content

lucid pawn
upbeat hatch
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apparently not very much stuff ...

lucid pawn
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Been trying different builds etc

solid seal
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Corruption also doesn't introduce new content. It just scales rewards better.

hidden geyser
#

i am at 150h and 100 corruption because is spent like half of the time doing some homecooked builds instead of being a meta slave

lucid pawn
hidden geyser
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people play the game differently

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i have some of my gaming friends getting me to show them every boss and orobyss with my homecooked builds so they can make fun of them
it's peak content for them

frail jay
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im at 235hrs and havent gotten a single character past corruption 200 cause i cant get decent gear to drop

#

cof rank 9 and i feel like im not even cof

#

doesnt seem to make a difference at all

gilded anchor
frail jay
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is cof bugged?

#

im doing prophecies too

#

just garbage is all im getting

rigid wing
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CoF can be very brutual. i am getting rare drop so often, but what i need is not something iam getting even after 60hours of gridning now.

#

target farming is not even close to MG

frail jay
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but mg is so massively overinflated

rigid wing
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MG is vastly superior, and target farming is actual a thing in MG rather on CoF

pastel tangle
#

i've never had an issue getting anything i needed in cof, i think it depends on the speed of your build without loot luck. I can push to 200c in just rares pretty quickly

frail jay
#

i have a 1million gold but i doubt that will buy what i need

rigid wing
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iam 600c+ atm 60+ hours in grinding +3 frost claw

pastel tangle
#

you might just need to try a different build or change strategies

gilded anchor
#

Piece of advise although will drive you crazy, farm mage gear with Pala/Rogue/Etc.. and vice versa, its a mad theory but many people seem to agree

rigid wing
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and i have 0. literally 0

pastel tangle
frail jay
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im running a torment warlock and im doing barely any dmg to bosses and sometimes even mobs

pastel tangle
#

optimal way to do that is rank 7 cof and using rare prophecies

rigid wing
#

what strategies? i have done over 40+ prophecies right now

#

iam using them

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i have single +2 claw drop in 40+ prophecies not a single +3

#

i got 7 lp1 heart in the same duration lol

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i droped 2 red rings same time, some rare lp3, yet no +3 claw lol

frail jay
#

so cof faction whos whole purpose is loot farming is actually worse than mg at target farming

#

im amazed

pastel tangle
#

guess how much a +3 frostclaw is in market

frail jay
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the devs had years to fix stuff before release and they couldnt even get a loot faction correcty

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1billion

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just a guess

pastel tangle
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it's literally something close to that

#

close enough anyway

#

i sell +2 frostclaw relics for 2m+

frail jay
#

i honestly feel like ehg needs to step in and get rid of the gold and equipment dupers driving up the market prices

#

ive seen stuff x1000 over night

#

its insane

rigid wing
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its 80mil for +3 but cheapest was posted 2days ago

frail jay
#

ehg needs to wrangle in the rampant inflation in their ingame economy

rigid wing
#

i can easily switch to MG and farm for that, but i want CoF lol

frail jay
#

i wish EHG actually gave a crap about their game

#

servers barely work and i continously dcing me

rigid wing
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i can easily get +2 at less thn 500k lol, people dont know how to buy stuff if they are buying +2 for 2mil

frail jay
#

and the market is rampant and out of control

rigid wing
#

+1 at tier 4 sells for close to 300k, buy them and get shards, about 6-8 shards in 600-800k at max

frail jay
#

wouldnt count on that being at that price much longer

#

watch it x100 over night

#

gotta love the market

lucid pawn
rigid wing
#

well if its that bad with dupe gear, thn this should be priority for ehg

frail jay
#

its everything though @lucid pawn

rigid wing
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i got many lp1-3 at start of the launch for 0 gold lol

#

but it got so boring i had to go CoF lol

#

now iam getting burned by not getting the item i want! self inflicted pain

lucid pawn
#

The trade in this game is poorly designed anywsy. PoE ruined trade fir every other game

pastel tangle
#

that's a symptom of the problem though, mg is geared so that the fastest players have a massive advantage to the point where they're playing an entirely diff game, and slower players only serve as little loot goblins putting undervalued crap on the market

frail jay
#

EHG gives you two choices either get shafted by out of control capitalism or horrendously bad drop rates

#

i wish EHG support actually helped though

#

i can barely play the game for an hour without a disconnect

#

they are too busy focusing on minor issues rather than the glaring issues

solid seal
# frail jay i honestly feel like ehg needs to step in and get rid of the gold and equipment ...

From Mox - "We’re not aware of an active dupe exploit as all the ones we’ve reproduced at this point are a client/server mismatch and visual only which resolves on the players end as having no duped item as soon as the leave a zone or other. If you think you know an active dupe that is not a client/server mismatch where you keep the item please message me with details and we’ll make it our highest priority to hotfix. We did have an actual dupe that we fixed the same day we were made aware of it." https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1biad4a/comment/kvjohhm/

frail jay
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i was not aware they fixed it yet

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thank god they fixed it

rigid wing
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i hope that is true.

frail jay
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point is i want to have fun but the only thing ruining that is the steep drop off in quality loot needed to comfortably run empowered monos

rigid wing
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Max - "To be clear, there could be a dupe but if there is our team is not currently aware of it. When there was a real one previously we received a lot of messages and videos on how to reproduce it and we were able to fix it very quickly", so he isnt certain that there is no duping still

frail jay
#

oof

solid seal
#

nm, i'm just going to eject myself from this convo.

frail jay
#

no need to get heated

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i just think its a bummer that the devs arent adressing these issues

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i will still play this game everyday but its frustrating such a good game is being bogged down by easy fixes is all

gusty lake
#

Man i wish i went merchants guild 😩

next cape
willow coral
#

Can you have character as cof and a alt in mg at the same time?

modern iris
gusty lake
gusty lake
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have enough gold to buy it outright at this point

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anything above 2+lp*

unreal nest
#

Rank 6 perk is - items are Twice as Likely to have LP

obsidian girder
frail jay
#

@obsidian girder im on ethernet

obsidian girder
#

Then I cant help you there 😂

keen epoch
#

many people are just new and are bad at making money so it feels like thats a lot

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but, i do agree there arent enough gold sinks. not nearly enough

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only gold sink is lightless arbor

tulip pilot
#

Anyone else still having the void horror prophecy not completing? Ive had this issue before but i thought it was already fixed apparently not at least for me...

green nacelle
#

does the corruption condition mean i need to do it at exactly that corruption level or is that corruption condition the minimum?

icy harbor
tulip pilot
#

I saw some people complain about this issue before, but was not aware it was still ongoing

icy harbor
tulip pilot
#

feelsbadman well anyway thanks for the info buddy

burnt sundial
#

how can i mass farm weavers items?

lunar escarp
#

Prophecies

pastel tangle
frail hare
#

does it even specify monolith? otherwise just do it in a story area.
i never had issues completing void horror ones. playing mainly blood/frost/death

proven dome
#

what counts as a "boss" in the "death of a boss" prophecies?

subtle reef
#

mobs with boss life bars ?

proven dome
#

thx

burnt sundial
sage pond
#

There's Weaver specific ones in the armor area if you are looking for relics/rings then just grab uniques of those types you should see a bit of them

wicked berry
#

I'm reading the 1.0.4 patchnote, and some people are talking about a CoF nerf but I can't seems to find it in the patchnote ?

#

what have been nerfed ?

rough depot
solid seal
#

The "Glyph of Despair x3" prophecy had previously cost 420 favor. It is now 4500 favor.

wicked berry
#

well that sounds unecessary.

wicked berry
civic raft
#

yes the X7 despair cost 35K now

wicked berry
#

really ? that must be a mistake

civic raft
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i won't even take them that often now way too expensive

wicked berry
#

if x3 is 4500, surely x7 cannot be 35k

#

I'm not that good at math but that doesn't add up

civic raft
#

How it's because i use a 80% cost more lense sorry

#

didn't checked the price without it

wicked berry
#

oh I see

#

makes sense

civic raft
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7K for 7 i guess

wicked berry
#

I'm a bit mad about the grace period fix, ngl

#

it was a bug so I understand why they did it, but still. I liked it.

civic raft
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Dunno why they keep nerfing CoF

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i'm playing only CoF since the launch never used the auction house an i struggle like crazy to get 2LP items / good exalted for the slams

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i've 60 runes of creation to duplicate Exalted never used them cause i never drop something that useful

wicked berry
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from what I read, it's mainly because of abuse that some of MG players are doing

civic raft
#

i feel like if you really want to progress you've have to switch to the auction house

wicked berry
#

idk, I have a lv.100 character at 500 corruptions and still going

civic raft
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yeah that what i thought you combine the 2 and yo uend up with something godly

#

still tuck at 400 corru

wicked berry
#

it's probably longer but it feels doable

civic raft
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when i check build and see 9 uniques with 3 lp i said just "nope yep nope"

#

it's like mission impossible

wicked berry
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try to work on a "lighter" version of those

#

what are you playing may I ask ?

civic raft
#

Fissure warlock

wicked berry
#

haven't played warlock yet

civic raft
#

kinda fun but without the 2LP uniques slams for tankiness you're kinda goin nowhere

wicked berry
#

random uniques or boss ones ?

civic raft
#

both

#

But even regulars ones i saw one with 2lp so far

#

been playing 6/hrs day since launch

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xD

wicked berry
#

unlucky or maybe you're not target farming ?

civic raft
#

many many daggers prophecies everyday i target farm alot i guess unlucky !

wicked berry
#

that's where I'm at, full CoF player

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and I'm not playing 6h/day

civic raft
#

can't see anything

wicked berry
#

ah

oblique flaxBOT
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Marksman, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Rogue (64) / Bladedancer (29) / Falconer (20)

General:

▸ Health: 2,138, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 133, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 333%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 20 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 329% / 65% / 54% / 82% / 62% / 58%
▸ EHP: 3,618 / 3,781 / 3,421 / 3,312 / 3,781 / 3,331 / 3,218

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 428
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (439)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (553)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Cold, Physical / Throwing, Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Smoke Bomb (20)
• Shift (20)
• Detonating Arrow (26)
• Explosive Trap (20)
• Shurikens (20)

Used unique items:

• Exsanguinous
• Jelkhor's Blast Knife
• Jelkhor's Blast Knife
• Frostbite Shackles
• Last Steps of the Living
• Ucenui's Sphere

wicked berry
#

here, I'm stupid

civic raft
#

that's really good

wicked berry
#

idk but I don't think it's that bad

#

are you target farming ?

civic raft
#

Yep

#

my dagger the Ghost something droped once with 2 lp

#

urs i've like 10+ with 3lp

wicked berry
#

it's a common dagger it should be doable at 2LP

#

yeah just unlucky

civic raft
#

it's the Ghost Maker

wicked berry
#

yeah, lastepochtools says its drop rarity is common

#

like mines

civic raft
#

i just droped 6 of em on the boss few mins ago

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0 lp on em and it's like that for weeks

wicked berry
#

damn

#

rip

civic raft
#

my next char will take MG instead pretty sure it's goin to be less painful

#

and for the next cycle just do a budget character for CoF to farm runes / scrolls for the main in MG

wicked berry
#

I wouldn't recommand it

#

I think that's because a lot of people are doing that that CoF is getting nerf again and again

civic raft
#

Well players will always seek the best and optimal way to get the most of anything

wicked berry
#

sure

civic raft
#

Or they just make 2 very different stash tab even for the runes for each faction

silver summit
#

How do I know what timeline I'm in? like frost/blood/death? is it monolith type?

indigo cloud
#

Those are monolith type

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They all in end of time

silver summit
#

thanks, and its a specific dungeon or the entire tree?

#

like where do I see it?

indigo cloud
#

Not sure what you are refering to but if it prophecy, it any echo in that monolith

silver summit
#

gotcha, thanks

supple halo
#

is it just me or the easier boss to push corruption is abomination? (maybe emperor of corpses as well)

elder torrent
#

ye he is a pushover

frail hare
#

depends, abomination is pretty easy, but so are a bunch of other bosses. the worst ones are those that cant be 100% avoided with a bit of movement. lagon (because he's bugged i guess), formosus, hartons husk are all pretty free, argentus and rahyeh aswell for the most part.
emperor of corpses is annoying if you're melee and/or lack good coverage to kill the zombies quickly, but otherwise very free aswell.

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overall i think they did a pretty good job with monolith bosses as they are all very easy and avoidable skill checks unless your build is just a really bad matchup (for a few of them)

worthy minnow
#

Is there a prophecy for runes of creation?

radiant oracle
worthy minnow
#

Thanks!

steel dune
#

Are there any prophecies that take place in the spirits of fire?

jolly trail
#

its possible you just never see them because you aren't the right rank

proven dome
#

are prophecies per character or per account?

proven dome
jolly spire
hazy aurora
#

Is there a difference between how I use Regional Lenses and how I use Greater Lenses? Do Greater Lenses apply to all prophecies globally or do they just apply to the ones in the telescope they're slotted in?

jolly spire
#

only the telescope they're slotted in

slim veldt
#

anyone had any luck farming +frost claw relics in the past couple of days?

lunar escarp
#

A +2 dropped today for me

haughty wharf
#

Can a boss-specific item drop from a Fortune if you're in that boss' timeline?

opaque minnow
jolly trail
#

rhyme, wealth, and 1 regional for the item you want is very strong

jolly trail
#

only the LP gain from cof does anything for boss drops

placid crest
dense latch
#

Can prophecy drop any unique in game?

swift drum
#

all non boss uniques.

dense latch
#

Ty

solid seal
#

Exiled Mage, Shade of Orobyss, Quest Echo bosses have fixed loot drop tables. Their fixed loot unique item drops are only affected by the Rank 6 double LP chance.

solid seal
coral hatch
#

Is it a huge spike in exalted drops once you hit rank 8?

solid seal
#

depends on your loot filter, but in general, yes.

coral hatch
#

cool, i'll have to filter out more, but I'm probably just a few mono's away from getting there

rapid fable
#

hi. what gonna happen if smash together in temporal sanctum LP Uniq with CoF tag + Exalted item with MG tag?

unreal nest
#

cant

#

Same Tag + Same Tag = Yes. Tagged + Untagged = Yes. Different Tag + Different Tag = No

solid seal
#

both items must be equippable. That covers non-conflicting faction requirements, level requirement, and class requirement.

rapid fable
upbeat hatch
#

can you get rune of creation in COF?

twilit cedar
#

Yes, you can target farm with rune of creation prophecies

jolly trail
#

how do i get t5 experimental affix through crafting? i use the calc and get the affix i want but it's usually like t2 and i can't improve it

solid seal
#

If you want t5, meet all 4 conditions to get +4 on top of the base 1

jolly trail
pastel tangle
#

and i think the first time most people want to put an exp mod on something it's getting any tier of haste or minion or frenzy etc and not trying to min max the process

finite charm
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Man.... the Glyph of Despair higher cost for us COF players feels bad... :/

The biggest saving grace for CoF is that we can craft exalted pieces to make up for the fact that we have to grind much harder for our LP2s and 3s than the MG people do...since they can just buy them.

Now we have to grind a crap ton more favor to even be able to get the glyphs. Is there another way of preventing MG people from farming the CoF for those without making the CoF players pay the price?

Anyone else feeling this way?

I've been crafting what I can with these glyphs until I can get my LP2s or 3s with BiS since COF grind is much harder. Now it's even worse to get those glyphs.

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Is there gonna be some sort of rebalance to help CoF players out? It feels like we keep getting punished for MG behavior

livid star
finite charm
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I want to stay playing CoF, i like being able to craft using the insane amount of exalteds we get compared to MG, but, those glyphs of despair have been one of the key pieces enabling that

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right now, it feels bad to be CoF

pastel tangle
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that's ignoring a lot of points, i feel like you don't quite understand whats at play for MG there without actually playing both

finite charm
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And like i said, it makes up for the fact that we have a harder time getting the LPs we need. Even with only 1 piece of gear at LP2, the rest at LP1 and 60% being exalted, I can at least make powerful exalted gear to make up for the grind

pastel tangle
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it takes an incredible amount of time investment to learn the market enough to make that kind of money

finite charm
pastel tangle
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yes... it's a time investment

finite charm
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Ok buddy

pastel tangle
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how many servers are teaching people how to cof

finite charm
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There's really not much to teach in CoF, you just play.

pastel tangle
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so you do understand

finite charm
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Dude

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the grind in CoF is a lot more intense

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and to say otherwise is just BS

pastel tangle
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no it isnt

finite charm
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ok man

pastel tangle
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i'm ranked in both

finite charm
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👍

pastel tangle
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you really just don't know, it sounds like

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because you keep saying stuf that doesn't track

finite charm
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Ok dude

pastel tangle
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you have to source non cof tagged exalts... how are you doing that reliably to make money

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other than just playing

finite charm
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Ignoring the dude above.

Is there any way to make CoF feel better to play than it is right now? As mentioned, grinding for the end game gear is a lot harder in CoF than on MG, and the Glyph of Despair nerf makes it even worse to craft relative gear

pastel tangle
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you're saying something that isn't true though, the grind isn't harder on average, plenty of MG players can't afford their endgame gear

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but you can optimize strategy for cof

finite charm
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Again --- multiple people switch from CoF to MG and are able to finish up their end game gear much faster than staying on CoF

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so you're being disingenuous or just trolling

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Thanks for your input

sleek bobcat
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jesus christ

haughty wharf
pastel tangle
haughty wharf
pastel tangle
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you turn rares to exalted and it procs often enough that you're getting more total exalteds per favor than buying exalted prophecies outright

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if you are doing that strategy in particular it's okay to spread them out because rare prophecies are less common as you rank up, and it really only for hard targeting a base you need

haughty wharf
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The rares have a chance of turning to exalted before rank 8?

pastel tangle
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is it rank 8? lol

haughty wharf
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Yeah rank 7 is higher tier 7 chance

pastel tangle
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my bad then

haughty wharf
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Okay I got it lol

pastel tangle
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and cof doesn't affect mono specific node drops like glove nodes, boot nodes, etc but if you are targeting a certain unique it's just common sense based that focusing your prophecies to the same mono that drops the item is going to get you it faster than dividing time against other monos or dungeons

haughty wharf
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If I take "death of boss" or "kill lagon" fortune with "unique relic" as the reward will it increase the chance of getting Lagon's relic?

pastel tangle
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doesn't seem to, unfortunately

haughty wharf
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god this relic is the worst lol

pastel tangle
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not affecting the frequency is one of the common complaints

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but it'll help you get LP if it does drop

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and that's what i meant by getting more out of pushing, increased rarity from corruption does affect boss item drops

haughty wharf
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What is considered low, medium, high amount of corruption?

pastel tangle
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low is 250, medium is 500, and high is 1k+ ... is what it seems like currently

keen epoch
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My guy it’s self found mode

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“Why is self found grindier than being able to outright buy and trade for things”

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I hope they don’t buff COF just because a bunch of people who have never played an ARPG before don’t realize that solo self found is going to be extremely grindy

pastel tangle
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the thing is that CoF is not even grindy compared to how the entire game was in beta, it cuts the grind down by literally 70-80%

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i had outclassed my beta character w/ cof gear in less than a week

frail hare
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i dont even get what this whole discussion is about lol, i never even ran out of the despairs i just drop from grinding

keen epoch
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Yeah COF makes the self found mode extremely easy yet people still want it buffed

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Imagine for a second self found mode was just MG with no trading. That’s ssf in every other ARPG

pastel tangle
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it's me, i'm some people

frail hare
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more people should read the line where it sais that the odds go down the higher the tier of the mod 🙈

pastel tangle
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the odds go down of the seal working

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but the odds of making a GG t28 insane show piece go up significantly

keen epoch
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Max tier is 33 right

pastel tangle
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should be 35

frail hare
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how do you get a t7 affix sealed 🤔

keen epoch
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7x4 + t5 mod?

pastel tangle
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all t7 and then sealed t7 experimental

keen epoch
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Ah yeah

pastel tangle
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i have a t30

haughty wharf
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I've tried to double down on 14 and had the dealer push my money back to me before so if you think I'm not going to just gamble away all my glyphs on dumb stuff you got the wrong guy

pastel tangle
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can't really imagine more than that

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t7 sealed experimental, t7 and t6 suffix, two t5 prefix

frail hare
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how do you get a t7 inplace of a sealed t7 experimental

pastel tangle
frail hare
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you have to use research, which frees up a spot, and then how are you gonna add another t7 in that slot lol

pastel tangle
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well played

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33 it is

midnight pollen
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Hello, i don't know if there is an answer. I want to have death rattle with 2 LP. So, what is the better between prophecy "Unique amulet" and "Unique amulet with 1 LP". Tank for the answers and ping me pls.

unreal nest
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The Unique Amulet with 1LP cost is extremely high - personally id just buy more prophecies instead of buying a single 1LP

vestal finch
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Can Lightless Arbor roll t7 sealed? Then maybe you could (once in a billion timelines) roll 5 T7 mods? And then be disappointed they are all trash.

white narwhal
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never got an exalted or rare in 100hours 😄

next cape
woven hull
tidal bloom
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Any OCE players in here?

hidden temple
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very fun game CoF nerfed again and again

solid seal
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free game, No complaining.

jolly trail
silent wadi
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its starts to feel little annoying as cof rank10 player getting 20 items but all useless. no single item with lp2 and spend alrdy 200hours with one char with corruption from 300 to 600. it just takes to long

finite charm
finite charm
hybrid pier
wet swift
scarlet wing
solid seal
undone steppe
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im only getting 40 exp favor for monolith per tome is this normal? i thought we were supposed to get a lot more

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how are we supposed to get 400k exp

hallow plume
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favor scales with corruption

undone steppe
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whats the ideal corruption lvl thats not too hard and good exp?

hallow plume
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what level,class,build are you cause your question is dependant on your build

undone steppe
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lvl 78 marksman

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she's kinda soft so im hoping to not get one shotted if its too high corruption

hallow plume
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basically you want maps to take 90 sec roughly obv some will take longer but if maps are about that long your at the right point

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and it's just a matter of gearing up and progressing and as you get stronger favor gains will scale

undone steppe
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how much favor per tome is 500 or 1000 corruption? i just wanna get an idea

hallow plume
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tomes cap out at some point i'm not sure when but i get 500 per tome

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and have for the last few hundred corr

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but mobs keep scaling

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you will get to the point where your getting 50k every 20 min or so

undone steppe
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wow thats nice

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is this the same even if i piggyback someone?

hallow plume
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dunno i'm a solo player

finite charm
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@undone steppe another thing you can do to farm favor is to switch the blessing from Fall of the outcasts to the EXP one instead of the unique one (seems counterintuitive -- but not if you're farming favor which can get you more uniques)

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That won't impact the tomes, but it should impact the exp from killing mobs in echos

frosty rivet
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Can’t you use items from the merchant guild ?

finite charm
frosty rivet
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Ty

sharp chasm
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If I pick the +90% cost and 2x items from prophecies, will I get the same item (duplicated) or different ones? 2 separate uniques for example

frail hare
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different ones. only CoF10 duplicates the items

mossy fractal
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Personally I think that the QoL blockers competing with the same slots as power ones is just horrible design leading to the whole system being sitting and rerolling instead of playing. Why they are not on a separate row is beyond me to comprehend.

gleaming mirage
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Getting cost and reward up also reduces your rerolls per unit reward, by getting more per successful reroll, and neither of those is QoL as rerolls cost favor

mossy fractal
gleaming mirage
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Making people make decisions is pretty nice for a game imo, and like I said the "power" options also reduce your rerolls

mossy fractal
gleaming mirage
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I love when people say "given your logic" and then say some absolutely insane unrelated garbage

mossy fractal
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You would have to decide more and as you said that is nice.

gleaming mirage
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Brother they all reduce your rerolls by either blocking some outcomes you don't want or making you roll for fewer prophecies for the same reward

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and like I said the "power" options also reduce your rerolls

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The real question here is whether the ones that double your reward are a bit overtuned by both reducing rerolls and having higher than 2:2 reward:cost ratio

mossy fractal
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Ok. So blocking arena T3 is not something you want to add without having to forgo getting helmets. That is fine. I do think the other way though.

gleaming mirage
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You can still get helmest though??????????????????

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Yeah I'm done here, good luck to you on whatever you're trying to do

mossy fractal
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So you do not understand that they use the same slot. Sad.

gleaming mirage
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You can get helmets without specializing into increased chance to get helmets

mossy fractal
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Yes. Reroll.

gleaming mirage
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Do you just want to get 5 copies of the exact prophecy every roll to choose from or something

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I don't get why it's so hard to understand that all options reduce your rerolls

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I must have fallen for an elaborate troll right

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I really need to cap my troll resistance already

mossy fractal
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Yeah, mature. Troll for wanting to block content as a separate line.

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But all this is so minor, would just would be nice to have a slot or two dedicated to tailor game content. Not at all something that make it horrible or something 🙂

gleaming mirage
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I think the cleanest way to do something about the system would be making the two doubling lenses not work with each other (and then maybe buffing the double uses one a little since it's the more effort one)

Then unlocking them would still be a power boost and you'd want one but it'd still make sense for them to exist as lenses because you'd still be making a choice with regard to them

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That'd leave you with two slots, and since the doubling lenses would no longer be buffing each other into even more power, it might even be reasonable to skip it and have all three for targeting

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And ultimately I think they should be for targeting as much as possible, since that's what sets the lenses apart from any other loot enhancing mechanic like the ranks

grand parrot
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Which prophecies give grand idols? I can't seem to find those on rewards despite many rerolls. The ones I'm talking about take 3 spaces horizontally

velvet matrix
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You and me both on this one Yegor. I've stacked two lenses for the vertical ones and only saw one prophecy pop up with what I'm looking for. I don't nearly struggle as much with any other telescope.

glad gull
velvet matrix
glad gull
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maybe try some youtube guides.

muted mango
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so how do i start doing stuff with circle of fortune i have no clue

glad gull
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@muted mango dont ask mentor he has less of a clue

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@muted mango check some youtube vids brother

muted mango
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i did man but 90% of them dodo lol

glad gull
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Nax is good

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check his.

glad gull
velvet matrix
# muted mango so how do i start doing stuff with circle of fortune i have no clue

Essentially there are two ways to engage, lenses and the telescopes. You don't need to travel to individual telescopes either, you can interact with them by simply pressing the NSEW circles in the telescope GUI.

The lenses are used to "slot" in to their respective telescope. Blue lenses go to blue telescope, red to red etc.

The lenses, particularly the minor lenses, help you "target" what prophecies are likely to appear in their respective telescope. For example, if you're targeting "helmets" you'll buy a Minor Lens of Helmets, go to the North telescope, coloured blue in its GUI, and slot in the Lens. You do this by clicking on the Lens on the bottom left and it'll open your inventory to slot.

From there you pick the prophecies, which in any other game would function as a Radial Quest, for the particular reward. Such as "In Dungeon Y Kill Final Boss for 5 [item]".

If you buy a prophecy then that respective telescope gets re-rolled and you have new options to pick from.

Major Lenses helps modify things even further, but their description is self explanatory, such as "100% chance of prophecy not to have X requirement" where X may be Dungeons.

gleaming mirage
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One neat detail I don't see mentioned often is that the regional lenses are color coded after the GUI color scheme of the telescope they're for, so if unsure where to find something you can reference that

mossy fractal
knotty remnant
velvet matrix
knotty remnant
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ohh nice, did not know that

velvet matrix
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Yeah, really handy if you're looking for specifics. Does mean though that depending on your rank you can't slot in a Major Lens for Exaulted or Unique. If you have all three unlocked then you'll want to be particular with how it's used.

mossy fractal
gleaming ridge
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I wish these prophecies would drop some more lp 3 and 4 stuff

rose holly
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Hello guys, the spell healing shield of ring of shield can heal me?

finite charm
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@rose holly probably go to your specific class chat to ask that

sick jungle
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Is so sad how prophecies don't really help with Boss unique drop...

jolly trail
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hopefully they add boss drops and a boss regional lense for target farming

velvet matrix
jolly trail
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only changes they've been making is fixing MG farms with cof even if it's at cofs expense

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calling the 2x tome a "bug". like seriously. the rank reward says can double drops lol

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adjusting vendor prices fixed the issue by itself

sick jungle
jolly trail
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well i can't say they did nothing because the price on tabs is very nice

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i have a feeling they will just split inv by faction

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seems like it's the only fix for all the issues they've had with farming alts

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i don't even know the tldr on the despair nerf. i never bought any. i don't think cof players even need them since we're not swimming in upgrades constantly

velvet matrix
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I just don't have the time or the inclination constantly to monitor the market board, so CoF for me!

jolly trail
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if they add the boss proph and maybe rework r9 entirely cof would be in a pretty good spot

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i do think r1 should stack multiplicative with mono rewards and boss rewards

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i had thought of a great r9. implicits are rolled twice to have a higher chance at being better. includes uniques

pastel tangle
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and you unlock creations and the 3rd lens slot at rank 9, they should just put that on the rank card

jolly trail
velvet matrix
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F

jolly trail
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meanwhile their total raw gold in the economy but lets not change that this season

solid seal
keen epoch
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It’s very rare at 250, higher corruption = better chance to drop an Omni

sick jungle
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I'm talking about... With help of The COF, cuz with Merchant it's pretty easy

keen epoch
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Prophecies do not apply to boss specific drops

sick jungle
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They have a way to get a item like that with they guild

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We don't ;-;

keen epoch
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You can’t get an Omni with prophecies. You have to farm the boss

sick jungle
solid seal
# jolly trail calling the 2x tome a "bug". like seriously. the rank reward says can double dro...

As for the xp tomes, they simply felt experience gains should be equal across both factions. We weren't supposed to be getting extra tomes, which affects not just experience, but favor and rep. The three tomes from rank 5 (35% proc rate) accounts for about 20% of the experience and favor gained through monoliths at 100 corruption. Experience and favor do not scale up any further after area level 95 and character level 95 and are unaffected by corruption, blessings, and shrines. As you increase the corruption of a timeline, experience gained through monster killing increases while tomes remain static. At 300 corruption, the 3 extra tomes from rank 5 would have provided 10% of your experience and favor.

keen epoch
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They want you to still need to farm content other than monoliths

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Have some chase uniques to go for ya know

solid seal
# keen epoch Kill shade at 250+ corruption

Omni simply requires the corruption level of the zone be at 200 at the time the game rolls the loot. The way the game works is that corruption is added before the loot is rolled. If you are in a 120 corruption timeline and killing Shade rewards 80 corruption, the game calculates that you are at 200 corruption when you kill Shade and will roll Omni's. Distance from the timeline entrance (center of timeline) also increases the drop chance once it becomes drop eligible.

sick jungle
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Boost*

slow yew
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CoF needs work...especially late game. I sware I am to the point I don't even think CoF bonues are active since I go days without anything making it thru my loot filter. Finding upgrades is starting to become a frustrating experience rather than a challenge one. And my gear is far from optimal.

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I really think high ranks of CoF should be focused on bonuses/buffs to crafting

restive token
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Is there any way to check the prices of the items instead of searching 1 by 1 ?

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or a external website, since it's not very good to search in game lol

keen epoch
velvet matrix
keen epoch
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If you want easy access to items and you don’t enjoy the solo self found gameplay then go with the trade faction

keen epoch
tropic summit
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people still having the garbage takes I see

worthy hill
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I chose the wrong faction by mistake. I thought this one had cute baby lions and everyone sang Elton John Songs.😩

elder spindle
jolly trail
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"So this was purely in regards to its own balance within CoF." at least they are looking at things related to balance

worthy hill
jolly spire
worthy hill
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Yay. Just hit level 10 Rank. Now to see lots of shineys.🥳

restive current
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Is there any set really worth using, or is the r9 bonus just kind of meh?

worthy hill
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One or two individual items. But Yeah, mostly useless.

finite charm
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Pushing 500 corruption, not a single omnis has dropped for me

restive current
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Shame, gonna hit it today. I didn't really read ahead and had no idea it was coming lol

jolly trail
finite charm
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Playing CoF because it seemed like the more fun choice but boy was that a poor decision when farming end game gear.

jolly trail
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the only r9 bonus is the extra lense

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and regional are very strong on the 3rd

restive current
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I'm not deep into the game yet, pushing for c200. Idm CoF, but I'm fond of extensive grinds and ssf lol

finite charm
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That whole rank "reward" is bleh.

jolly spire
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worth more than keys

restive current
finite charm
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😂

restive current
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Doesn't seem that bad to me, but I've not done a lot with despair yet.

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No idea how many actually get used lol

finite charm
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Using those glyphs to make exalted gear slightly more powerful with an extra affix

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Or, to fix it up.

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Once you start pushing above 300c you'll need a gear upgrade, and if you don't have your uniques with LP (2 or above), you're gonna struggle unless you use the despair glyphs

restive current
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I don't think my build will push 300+ so that's a future me problem

worthy hill
finite charm
restive current
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No, don't even know what that is

finite charm
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Like I said, I'm pushing 500c, and I haven't not had a single omnis drop. So if you will sit at 200c, your odds are low

finite charm
restive current
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I'm playing around with wrongwarp because it seemed amusing.

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Doing a novawarp build

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Making it up as I go lol

finite charm
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Yeah, im running a bleed warlock built around using ghostflame as a replacement for veil

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It's working well so far.

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Gets up to 15 to 20k ward when channeling

restive current
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One day I'll have some big ward energy

turbid wigeon
finite charm
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Can you post your build? I'm curious as to the different approaches

worthy hill
oblique flaxBOT
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Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (10) / Paladin (73)

General:

▸ Health: 2,856, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 273, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 36 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 84% / 66% / 111% / 72% / 77% / 69%
▸ EHP: 3,904 / 3,904 / 3,581 / 4,662 / 3,790 / 3,904 / 3,665

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 571
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 39% (2,186)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 80%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Healing Hands (22)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

• Peak of the Mountain
• Eye of Reen
• Siphon of Anguish

turbid wigeon
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I use the basic Torment Warlock build on Maxroll. I just use the leveling build's Chaos Bolts instead of profane veil. That's it. Like I said, I'm waiting for that point where it becomes not so useful to do so.

finite charm
finite charm
native isle
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I'm hunting the Red Ring of Atlaria, LET says Age of Winter "Unique or Set Ring" echo rewards, but is that only that specific one, or can it also drop from the Unique Ring echo rewards as well?

turbid wigeon
turbid wigeon
finite charm
native isle
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yeah, I'm starting to fully appreciate the rarity of it

finite charm
native isle
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but the question is can it drop from any unique ring reward or just the echos that specifically say "Unique or Set Reward"

finite charm
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It's a world item

native isle
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oh

finite charm
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It can drop even from a mob theoretically

native isle
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well alright then

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so I don't have to be farming Age of Winter specifically

finite charm
native isle
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gotcha

finite charm
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You can also theoretically hit it using runes of ascendance

native isle
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well that's good to know

finite charm
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Although, the calculator says it's a 0.1% chance out of 10k tries

native isle
#

jesus.

finite charm
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Lol yep.

round ember
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yea i threw 30 runes at rings on night before logging off, then read how ran the chance was

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rare*

finite charm
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But you never know... Rngeebus could bless you

round ember
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yea im on my 2nd character and im not normally one to make more than that per season of an ARPG - so i said YOLO know it was rare

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but not knowing sub 1% rare 😦

inland veldt
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Hey guys, I have a question. When you get to rank 10 but you still have old unfinished prophecies. Do they get duplicated or does it only work on ones you bought after getting rank 10.

jolly trail
inland veldt
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Ok, thanks.

finite charm
wild valley
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anyone have any issues of prophecies not duplicating or giving the right rewards?

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I've done 4 8x body armor unique froms julra kill and it gives me 2 body arms some boots helms and other armor and none of it duplicates

inland veldt
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I had a few that showed the sign "Prophecy Fulfilled" but didnt drop anything. 😄

solid seal
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where X is either 8 or 16

wild valley
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nope just said 8 unique body armors

scarlet marsh
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swap my alt to mg and lost all favors in cof is it a bug?

unreal nest
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nope - thats how it works

icy harbor
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You even get a warning telling you favor will be lost before you accept

solid seal
# wild valley nope just said 8 unique body armors

I haven't had issues with "Unique Body Armour x4" but I haven't played with the latest 2 hotfixes (about to tonight). If you still have uses remaining for that prophecy, check the items to see if any items have CoF Rank 6 requirements. If so, then they dropped as a non-unique. In 1.4.0 and the previous couple patches, there are some prophecies that can drop items and fail to convert them to uniques for the quest reward.

"Body Armour (X Weaver's Will)" rewards can drop non-unique helmets and body armours since there are no Weaver's Will helmets and body armour uniques. The CoF requirements applied to the drops from those prophecies are rank 2 (8WW) and 6 (16WW).
"Unique Idol" rewards will drop regular idols if it rolls a unique mage idol and you aren't a mage. The prophecy that rewards 2 idols applies a rank 4 requirement.
Item types rewards for specific classes (e.g. Bows) may also reward lower rarity items. Acolytes get non-unique items for "Unique Bow", "Unique Bow x2", and "Unique Ranged Weapon (1 Legendary Potential)" but do get class-specific bows from "Unique Ranged Weapon x4".

native isle
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can prophecies requiring Arena 2 be completed by doing Arena 3?

solid seal
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Yes

native isle
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thanks

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I've run 5 Arena 2's and haven't fought the guy I need yet

rancid silo
#

the ambition of an old acolyte, how do you make a legendary?