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silent arrow
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you defended your point earlier by saying it'd be easy to code

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you're already convinced this is how it works when everything else in the game is saying it shouldnt, just based on the wording alone

mossy delta
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Each unique dropping is boolean value. When you kill the boss each unique is rolled for True/False. When it procs it simply does the checks again.

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Yes. I said I was personally convinced it works.

silent arrow
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on what grounds other than feel? thats what im wondering about

mossy delta
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This is going in circles.

silent arrow
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The curse said heart was a 1/100 in 0.8, you're not going to convince me his data means anything

mossy delta
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I was more going off his 32% heart rate in ~550% rarity. But I wasn't comparing soley heart. That isn't what is important. You count every unique..

lucid pawn
silent arrow
silent arrow
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does tunklab even have the values

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the weight and sum

mossy delta
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That comment was direclty to somoene who was saying it can drop twice if the double procc'd. And I was saying even with a double proc it isn't actually possible for 2 of the same unique to dorp.

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You just have to compare absolute numbers of uniques.

silent arrow
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well first of all, its double rewards, not duplicated, so even if we weren't talking about the fact that you can only drop one unique of a type at a time, its irrelevant

mossy delta
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bro. what you are talking about is irrelevant what? no one is talking about duplication.

silent arrow
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two of the same unique?

mossy delta
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Who is we? you just jumped in without reading

silent arrow
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I'm now in the conversation whether you like it or not, so we would work fine here

mossy delta
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Two of the same unique isn't just duplication. He was saying if the rewards were double there would be 2 chances for the same unique to drop. Ie. they would be different drops with different rolls.

lucid pawn
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Anyone hunting for and or found a well rolled wheel of torment here with 2LP+??

silent arrow
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the first and only problem tho, bosses aren't echoes

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and his drops arent echo rewards

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that is the one and only thing that should matter and why you shouldn't think anything else

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idk why you're in speculation land all the time when its explicitly stated in-game

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psure they're called timeline bosses in-game somewhere

solid seal
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Yea, I agree Kaj. Kasey has really mixed things up here. Rank 5 says "double rewards for Monolith Echoes" which are the rewards you get from these https://imgur.com/9aDgnNY

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sans XP tomes of course

mossy delta
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They are echoes

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As they are called so.

silent arrow
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they are quest echoes kasey

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they are not echoes

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it would say echoes/quest echoes

mossy delta
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Quest echoes of a monolith. One might say theya re a monolith echo

solid seal
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the maps you kill stuff in are echoes.

silent arrow
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it doesn't mention "quest echo rewards" for a reason

mossy delta
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Echoes have a guaranteed reward. Sounds like a boss drop to me.

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Calling boss fight not an echo when it's literally written right there "quest ECHO".

silent arrow
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QUEST echo

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it has its own tab in the help guide

mossy delta
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I don't get this argument when I've already said: "It's not that important to me and really unless you got spreadsheet data comparing MG and CoF at same rarity or Dev saying otherwise, I think it only natural to believe my anecdotal evidence."

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You aren't going to get anywhere arguing with me.

solid seal
mossy delta
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A separate entry doesn't mean anything.

silent arrow
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you don't even queue into the quests THROUGH THE MONOLITH

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its through the timeline

mossy delta
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The echoes are in the timeline too.

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at the top of your screenshot.

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The whole thing is a monolith. The timeline is part of the monolith. The fact that the quest echo is part of the timeline means it is part of the monolith. So monolith echo it is.

silent arrow
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well technically the entire endgame system is called the monolith

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the little zones are timelines

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so ig you're right

mossy delta
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yes

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well i may not be right

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but I think I am lol

silent arrow
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but you're still doing quest echoes in the timeline

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no thats defintely right. each and every zone is not called a monolith

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they're branches of the monolith called a timeline thats for sure

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wait nvm LOL

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this sht is so confusing and convoluted

mossy delta
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Yeah. I just meant about the whole drops thing.

silent arrow
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they are both timelines and monoliths

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and echoes

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all 3

mossy delta
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Yeah, but the whole zone is one instance?

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So it's 1 zone with multiple way points

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It makes sense the way points would have the same name.

silent arrow
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true true

mossy delta
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Uhm. what about if a boss drop has a rank requirement of 5? Would that be proof?

silent arrow
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wait LOL

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you found a NON LP unique with rank requirement?

mossy delta
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yes

silent arrow
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alright well you're right then

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crazy wording

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post a screen of that so I can refer to it

mossy delta
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nvm. It does have LP

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I think I stopped picking up non-LP or got rid of them.

silent arrow
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ok well when you drop one without LP with rank requirement that'll confirm it

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i'll keep an eye out

mossy delta
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So does it not require Rank 6 if it has LP?

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I guess not since all mine are rank 5, but that is odd.

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Since they got LP from rank 6 CoF

silent arrow
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i think the rank is random on it idk

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ive got some sht that definitely came from rank 10 and it requires rank 2

lucid pawn
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Lol.. MG channel exploding with all kinds of issues. Apparently prices have sky rocketed and a lot of decent loot costs millions of gold and some even 1 billion

mossy delta
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🤣

lucid pawn
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Im staying the F away from that guild... no thanks.

silent arrow
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thats rough

burnt sundial
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https://ibb.co/9cv4nyn what does the ''7% chance to gain ward when you hit a shocked enemy'' mean here
i.e physical hit?

mossy delta
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any hit.

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there is an in-game guide page for hit vs dot

solid seal
burnt sundial
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ah okty

lucid pawn
solid seal
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I just want to drop a message like "omg 4 lp garbage item is 500 million now!"

lucid pawn
icy harbor
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Im a happy man running my full build 2-3 lp in CoF. Gl earning the gold in MG to gear that and worst if its a meta build

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I could never afford my marksman zeus build in MG if i wanted to even have a similar gear vs what i have on CoF

teal axle
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Not to mention that the main really only major gold sink in the game, stash tabs, isn’t really used much by mg players

vapid tartan
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Back in early access there was no CoF. New players dont know pain

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Anyways, is reputation grinding just about killing mobs ? Any way to speed it up ?

lost sedge
sage hearth
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Farming books in mono is about the fastest you can do

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Each run is around 2k favor

mental dome
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is COF bugged I have rank 10 did a prophecy that gave 2 rings and I only got 2 rings instead of 4

grave monolith
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no i dont think its bugged

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maybe if u had this prophecy before reaching rank 10 it could do that

slim veldt
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Hey guys how ez is t7 level of skills stuff to farm on CoF. ?I'm thinking of making a new build on CoF . I'm rank 8 on it ATM .

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Also can I ask what builds you guys are running on CoF and if anyone is farming 800 or higher corruption

white narwhal
slim veldt
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Also 1LP twisted hearts are they hard in CoF to farm ?

gleaming mirage
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Unique relic prophecies print weavers, I got a full tab of weaver relics for my class from around 100k-150k favor before r10 (and keep in mind duping weavers items is doubling your chances), so that's one route to farm a +4 (which will be +5, actually)

timber gust
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Im actually rank 9 in MG with all build Made thanks MG, is it hard reroll to CoF or I should stay where i am?

lucid pawn
timber gust
lucid pawn
onyx escarp
timber gust
onyx escarp
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Considering the odds of one dropping, 100%

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On another note, I defected to MG for a day. I made more gold selling a single item than I did all week as CoF.
Really makes me appreciate how much the devs screwed over CoF players by nerfing Arena Key sell price

dawn galleon
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Yea GL getting enough gold to run Lightless Arbor Dungeon 😂

wide sandal
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Mg prices are completely ruined by gold dupes

shy dune
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has anybody else noticed that the T5 double echo rewards has stopped applying to exp tome echoes or have i just gotten highly unlikely odds of luck the last 3 days

dawn galleon
onyx escarp
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They fixed that "bug" when they nerfed arena key prices

shy dune
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bug ? its a perk from CoF lol

onyx escarp
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Nope, according to them it was a bug since it should only apply to items

shy dune
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unless they did not intend for it to double exp tomes is what you meant to say

onyx escarp
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And tomes are not items according to them

shy dune
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hrm fair enough that sucks

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thanks for the clarification

dawn galleon
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Really curious how on earth we are supposed to make enough gold to properly run Lightless Arbor

gleaming mirage
timber gust
shy dune
elder torrent
elder torrent
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sparta.gif

onyx escarp
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It's not madness, you need to emphasize with the poor MG players who are struggling to be able to buy 2 copies of one of the rarest uniques a few weeks into the new season. All CoF players clearly already have 2 or 3 of them at 3lp

timber gust
jolly spire
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*empathize
also, as any good MG player tell you, "jUsT bUy It"

elder torrent
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theny they have the gall the complain about drops

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like a 3lp shackles is normal

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lul

dawn galleon
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Bois my build needs a 4LP Omnis

white narwhal
elder torrent
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everyone should spawn with 2lp in every slot of best maxroll fuseoutcome

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to make it reasonable

elder torrent
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that was after cof rank7 2 in one day back to back

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no 4 yet to be seen

austere glen
elder torrent
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also no hate on mg enjoyers , its just a warped build worldview that is only enabled recently

peak lance
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Circle of Life and Fortune isn't always Shining down on us

elder torrent
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i like te fact i can target farm uniques exalts more appropriately now

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without only being "excited" about shades and bosses

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and i put excited very loosely in there

peak lance
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When you get the magical 6 drop then it shoves 6 of the same 6 right in the butt

elder torrent
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yep

austere glen
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theres no hate on mg. not like we were forced here. what i dont enjoy very much is the fact that if i cannot find an item, let me stand a chance to gamble it with cof vendors. even those items make me sick

elder torrent
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ye cof vendor is a huge letdown

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it should be exalted everytime

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can even roll white lmao

dawn galleon
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You even use the verdor lol

elder torrent
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quit buying prophecy blades

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used to

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in the start

dawn galleon
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Only wish we had a little more gold income, so Lightless Arbor would be used more

elder torrent
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ye they made sure that you cant gain gold at all as cof with the keys nerfed too

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not sure where theyre going with this

dawn galleon
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Yea one run of Lightless feels like a bigtime investment or at least for me. The gold used takes a long time to collect again

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And then if your chests dont yield your items you cant sell to gain gold back. Kinda feels bad tbh

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Or maybe im doing something wrong, but i cant seem to have a steady gold income and also do Arbor

elder torrent
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save up and do one arbor once a blue moon if at all

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i dunno overall 1.0 has been a disaster thus far

hazy cape
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hey guys what is the rate of favor and reputation in CoF,
like if I spend 1 favor, how many reputation I get

mossy delta
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2

burnt sundial
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im buying stuff from the soul gambler - should i spend all my currency with him this run? or does it persist to the next run of this dungeon?

mossy delta
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It persists

burnt sundial
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ah so i shouldnt spend it all this run

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im about to do the dungeon again, just finished it on tier 1, about to do it again on t2

lapis sigil
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So when you switch an alt between factions you lose all your favor. Assume I have 10K merchent favor and 200K COF favor. If I start an alt out on merchents guild and then later switch to circle of fortune... does my merchant guild favor go to 0 and my COF favor stays at 200K? Or do I lose both?

split flint
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Can prophecies give you any unique item that exists? or is it a specific loot pool? Question stands for the ascendance runes as well, can it give you any unique?

jolly spire
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not boss-only uniques

rapid geode
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CoF makes me sad

jolly trail
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Someone linked a runes of ac calc yday

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Forgot to bookmark it

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625 runes to get 1 red ring

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approx 100k favor

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someone was telling me they nerfed the LP from ascendance. idk what source they had for that

mental dome
mossy delta
jolly trail
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dam that sucks

noble wedge
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modest, not asking for much

rapid fable
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is any use for gold except buying stah tabs? i am not planing go to MG.

mossy delta
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lightless arbor 🤷 but it's pretty meh in CoF

cerulean haven
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do vw relics drop from south or north telescope?

mossy delta
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vw? Relics are jewelery so they are from South.

cerulean haven
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weavers will

mossy delta
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There is no WW relic prophecy. Only armor

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but unique relics can drop WW

cerulean haven
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aight thanks

cursive wren
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anyone know if there's an issue with multiple prophecies for the same thing not getting rewarded?

cerulean haven
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yeah i had that issue.. it only gives 1 if i have 2 active

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but counts to both as done

cursive wren
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yes i've been running into that

cerulean haven
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but only when the quest and rewards are both same

cursive wren
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i had 3 bow prophecies for killing the exalted mage only got 1 of them the other 2 were removed and i got the reward as rares instead of uniques

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so any way to fix it other than not get prophecies for the same thing?

obtuse lark
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does anyone know if i am lvl 9 CoF and i spend my favor on prophecies taking me to level 10. Will the prophecies i bought at lvl 9 be doubled by the lvl 10 perk?

mossy delta
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yes, but not doubled, duplicated

obtuse lark
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yea duplicated

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thanks, much appreciated

jolly trail
obtuse lark
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well, i'm fairly close to r10 and was thinking about just grinding it out to 10 without spending favor and saving it for when i hit 10

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even though it'd be way slower

jolly trail
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it would be like 1800 monoliths to get r10 not spending any

obtuse lark
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would be able to do it in a couple 100 or something like that

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but now knowing that i'll get the duplicate bonus i'll just get there using my favor ofc 🙂

blazing holly
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anyone a clue how exactly void horror stacks? summoned from monolith end platforms doesn't seem to stack into that?

craggy pawn
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They don't count from beacons

quaint wing
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Aloha gang, how you guys livin?

brave cargo
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been playing with my second char on MG instead of CoF and it's crazy the difference on exalted drops 💀

timber gust
brave cargo
glass musk
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there is any way to fast teleport do monoliths?

quaint wing
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@brave cargo So would you say cof is much better for target farm?

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I leveled MG to 10 today. I can see it being good if you have a truckload of gold to spend. Other than that MG just doesn't like it is worth it

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So now I will go cof

keen epoch
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MG will always be infinitely better when it comes to faster progression... its trade vs self found

lone bear
brave cargo
keen epoch
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grind for items to sell, buy what you need. t7 exalts atm arent that bad, even the meta ones are only 1-2mil

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you can make several mil an hour just farming high corruption

spring cloud
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how do I claim the profecie?

keen epoch
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so its similar to if you were able to farm 1-3 of the specific t7 roll youre looking for per hour on COF, i would say.

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or you get lucky and find something worth 10's or hundreds of mils, and you can just buy whatever

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MG and COF are just two different game modes. one isnt better than the other

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if you enjoy the self found playstyle and a grindier endgame, you pick COF. if you want to trade you pick MG

agile cosmos
keen epoch
brave cargo
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I'll check MG market later today, but from what im hearing, ppl complain a lot about it (be it due to a lack of research filters ~like filtering per higher stats of a certain affix on an item etc~~ or due to bugs like the armor shred thing).

keen epoch
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yeah the UI and design is awful, but theyre actively working on a redesign

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itll probably come next cycle if i had to guess

brave cargo
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yeah, unfortunately it will take months, but we cant do anything about it besides reporting and giving feedback

potent current
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Whats better cof or mg

glass musk
next cape
keen epoch
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if you meant to say "which one will progress my character faster" than its MG by miles. trade > self found when it comes to gearing quicker

limpid grove
keen epoch
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its not really, prices of most things are lower than what they really should be

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meta t7 rolls are only 1-2mil. red rings (mageblood level rarity, 2x red rings is bis for literally every build in the game) are like 1/5th what they really should be. people are selling items that should be worth billions for hundreds of millions instead because they just dont know better

marble merlin
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ive gotten 20+ 2 lp jelkhors but no 3 lp !!!!!!!!! ahhhh

keen epoch
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i think its mostly just casual players who havent played an ARPG with a real economy looking at prices of things and comparing it to what they can realistically make gold wise on their limited play time and they just jump to "markets inflated because i cant afford really good items"

woven hull
limpid grove
woven hull
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lol he is saying people dont know the valueof items l2read

keen epoch
wide sandal
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So what's the fastest way to gain corruption at first

limpid grove
keen epoch
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people come in this discord like "i sold this 3lp item for 100mil!!!!" and then they get laughed at because they could have sold whatever it was for multiple billions

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itll take a while for people to figure out whats worth what

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some dude sold a 1lp red ring for 300mil

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that one was actually painful to see

limpid grove
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insane.. might be next cycle that the market will slowly start to stabilize

keen epoch
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yeah who knows how long itll take for the general playerbase to acquire the game knowledge to know whats actually rare and good

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red rings launch week were 6 mil

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thats like selling a mageblood on poe for 6 divines

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if you could resell items

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the markets would stabalize because the people who actually know whats worth what would just buy stuff up and flip it

tough wyvern
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Wtb improvements on cof so lame just buy the bis stuff imo but whatever floats your boat 🙂

frail hare
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CoF is fine. nobody is playing CoF to compete with MG, its because finding items to use for yourself is fun and CoF gets the most out of that. trading will always be more powerfull if you're just looking to max out your character asap.

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that set bonus in CoF is kinda cringe, but EHG said they are looking into reworking sets anyway, so it could become good once they've done that, who knows.

craggy pawn
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People play CoF because they forgot to collect the Masochist boots.

rancid wraith
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Question -- does your CoF prophecies now show the correct amount of loot your going to receive to include your rank 10 duping?

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like these rune of creation ones that say x2 reward 2 use, is that calcing my rank 10 dupe now? cause before i thought it wasnt working and you just had to assume x2 the rewards

solid seal
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CoF prophecy tooltips do not reflect rank 10 duplicate rewards. It only shows what you purchased at the telescope, which can be influenced by double rewards and double uses lenses.

vivid ridge
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CoF could use some ways to way more directly target certain affixes or drops is a big thing. MG is significantly less grindy to get the stuff you need

high jolt
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but you need alot of gold to play with MG

vivid ridge
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I'm level 90 and still lack items with skill bonuses for my build. Just never seen them drop and I can't fix that

solid seal
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The biggest improvement to CoF is making it so I can view, sort, and filter all prophecies rather than having to mouseover for event/conditions. Manually having to track them kinda blows.

stable hamlet
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CoF needs better bonuses to compete with MG, unfortunately

vivid ridge
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MG would never have that issue. It can just flip what it gets to get the resources

stable hamlet
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it's fun for what it is, just don't expect much.

solid seal
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CoF will never compete with MG, lol

unreal nest
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CoF will never compete with MG - and anyone thinking otherwise is delusional

vivid ridge
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There is still plenty they could do to make the gap closer, but it's understandable why they low balled the first pass at it

hasty bough
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Can someone tell me why in SoloAF(SSF), prophecies of CoF not working? Currently in monolith lvl 73, and no one prophecy triggered. Is there something that I miss?(in regular game CoF working fine for me, no issues). Thanks

high jolt
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always thinking CoF make more money in the game ...

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when MG you have to sell to make huge money

wary mulch
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guys if I have tier 7 circle of fortune and I will change "guild" to merchants will I have to start from tier 0?

unreal nest
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yep - and you lose all your favor and prophecies

wary mulch
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welp 😦 Asking coz actually i've been trying so long to drop 2 specific items and still nothing 😦

solid seal
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you should also check your gear to see if anything important has CoF rank. If it does, you won't be able to use it while aligned with MG.

wary mulch
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or maybe u guys will have a hint for me.. I am trying to drop relic Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros and purple relic with + to frost claw. How can I increse my chances 😄

hasty bough
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is there level limit for CoF(73 currently) to get it work finally? (i can't get it work in SSF, only in regular game)

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Soon I will fill all my prophecies....

unreal nest
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Do Relic prophecies - clear relic nodes. TWisted Heart is a boss drop - so just farm the boss

unreal nest
hasty bough
unreal nest
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not necessary - report a bug

solid seal
# wary mulch or maybe u guys will have a hint for me.. I am trying to drop relic Twisted Hear...

Bosses have a fixed drop rate for their unique reward. Bosses have 3 loot tables. A 50/50 table guaranteed to drop 1 item always, a table for rare uniques, and a table for uniques that are obtainable from empowered timelines. For Reign of Dragons, the Emperor of Corpses loot tables are staff and catalyst for the 50/50 table, relic (twisted heart) for the rare table, and shield for the empowered-only table. LP and Weavers Will scale with corruption level (5% at 100c, 10% at 300c, 14% at 600c).

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There are some items that won't drop until the area level is equal to or greater than the required level of the item. The Blood, Frost, and Death timeline has an area level of 70 on normal. Frostbite Shackles requires level 74 and will not drop until you've raised the area level up through corruption to level 74. An item like Omnis from Shade of Oboryss will only drop when the corruption level is 200 or higher and the drop rate increases the further you are from the timeline entry point. When you kill Shade of Oboryss, the corruption is added to a timeline before loot is rolled and rewarded, giving you a chance to get an Omnis at that time if you end up at 200 corruption or higher.

dusky halo
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how to calculate corruption x drop

solid seal
dusky halo
solid seal
dusky halo
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kk, ty sir

dusky halo
wary mulch
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what build you are running at 500+ corruption?

dusky halo
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lightning runemaster

idle bane
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Has anyone given both factions a try? Which one do you prefer?

wary mulch
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I am missing that relic and +3 on frost claw 😦

dusky halo
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no motivation to play

dusky halo
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I wanna try to get 16 int on twisted heart

wary mulch
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I feel like I am missing something from def or something coz probably i will not be able to do more than 200+ corruption :p

idle bane
dusky halo
idle bane
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Might have to do that

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Thanks

dusky halo
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if you want I can recommend the build that I'm running, the video is very detailed

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corruption 500 mobs die so fast without crazy gear

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got tons of reduction damage

wary mulch
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could u send me a link to that video?

dusky halo
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yeah, I will pm you

wary mulch
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thank you! ❤️

acoustic cedar
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Can the xp tomes from echo rewards not proc as double anymore? I made a new char, I'm 86 and I swear I haven't seen them double yet

unreal nest
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cant double anymore

hollow spade
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question do uniques like Titan Heart drop from prophecies or only unique body armor timeline rewards

acoustic cedar
unreal nest
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yea like multiple patches ago

acoustic cedar
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I'm just trying to see what the argument for it was

unreal nest
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CoF shouldnt be able to gain favor faster than MG

acoustic cedar
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And they only thought about it weeks after release? lol

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"Hey, let's make echo rewards proc as double!" -Done! What else?

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So basically, now the text on the CoF perk is incorrect

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Or, say, misleading

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Anyway, nothing to rant about, it is what it is, we keep grinding 😄

warped bolt
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Necrophysco - could i get the link to your build vid as well?

gloomy island
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its in there

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" This is also technically a bug fix as the XP Tome Reward isn’t a direct item reward. Item Factions are not intended to have an effect on experience gains, only how items are obtained."

acoustic cedar
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MY point is, the perk simply states "rewards" and not "direct item rewards" or something like that. They also could have left them as a double proc, but only giving favor once. Although probably difficult to code at this stage.

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I just regret not abusing the crap out of it before it got fixed, I had a timeline prepped with multiple vessels of memory/chaos so I could probably have pushed rank 10 in a day 😄

unreal nest
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You are like 10 days late on the outrage

gloomy island
acoustic cedar
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Yeah being busy with life does that to you

gloomy island
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oh is this the "but i have a life" excuse?

acoustic cedar
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Sure is

gloomy island
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I mean, why give some kind of excuse, could just say "oh I missed that" 🤣

acoustic cedar
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He made a stingy comment so I'm not gonna roll over and play nice

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I just expressed my dissatisfaction with the "bug fix" and explained why, dude says outrage lol

unreal nest
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You're hung up on the word outrage? Yikes.

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Plenty of people were outraged - the time to jump on that bandwagon was 10 days ago

acoustic cedar
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They do a survey and not gonna nerf builds running with 50k ward or more at which point the integer rolls over, but double xp tomes? Gamebreaking bug.

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I understand why they did it, it's just not how they usually do things.

acoustic cedar
digital orbit
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dropped a juicy dreadthorn bow with t7 fire pen and crit chance crit multi with open suffix and good implicits, what build could use this yall think?

unreal nest
digital orbit
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rip

blazing gale
unreal nest
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Yea, but a Dreadthorn with T7 Fire pen isn't gonna really be useful in something like that

acoustic cedar
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IS fire pen on a bow a suffix?

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Yeah I guess it is, hmm

minor frost
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Despite it being called Circle of Fortune, it's not really a circle is it.

unreal nest
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Circle means a group of people with a shared interest - so yes, it is indeed a Circle

minor frost
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Actually I didn't even consider that meaning for the word so I suppose you're right

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Still disappointed with the lack of shapes

solid seal
minor frost
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God speed on the idol matey

willow dragon
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god damn boss drops are so frustrating

brave cargo
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I wouldnt have high hopes for rare boss drops below 300 corruption, btw.

late marten
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and its like 100m+ gold on gm with 2lp

loud fractal
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100m gold lol

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surely all the gold circulating is legitimate XD

little tiger
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Hi guys, Is it possible to drop the Oceareon ring with prophecies?

brave cargo
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and 2 of the 1LP hearts weren't tagged with CoF

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little tiger
craggy pawn
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It's the second rarest unique ring that's not from a boss, but it's possible. Can get it from a RoA, too. Same odds.

onyx escarp
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Actual cost was probably less than half that since this is the pre nerf amount it would have cost

lucid pawn
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MG players have access to literally free 2LP uniques cos ppl give them away

dusky halo
lucid pawn
onyx escarp
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3LP ladles are not cheap

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Like 15-20 mil

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Ironic part is I never found a 3LP ladle or a Red Ring as CoF

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Found both as MG on my first day of defection and that funded my entire 200 stash tab

lucid pawn
onyx escarp
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I only converted for the gold, I just got it a lot quicker than I expected lol

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Going to go back to CoF since I enjoy the loot explosions even if we are treated like second class citizens

lucid pawn
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acoustic cedar
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What determines the exalted item type in a prophecy? I get either exalted dagger or exalted rune daggers - is that because I'm wearing a rune daggeR?

onyx escarp
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Nah, that's just the prophecies available.

acoustic cedar
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Why would they pick rune dagger specifically, lol

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All the other weapon prophecies I get are just generic weapons, doesn't say a specific base type

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But for daggers it's rune daggers

molten oar
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rune daggers is the caster dagger base

acoustic cedar
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I'm not even complaining, I'm looking for rune daggers and this feels like winning a jackpot being able to fish for rune dagger prohpecies

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Just wondering about the logic behind it

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I guess it's the only spell damage one @molten oar I see your point

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Actually it's not

molten oar
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the other one is only from CoF gambling

acoustic cedar
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Oooooh

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Yeah now it makes sense

onyx escarp
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I'm guessing it's just a way to help us target find some higher tier stuff

molten oar
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basically if you're looking for an exalted caster dagger to wear then going for all daggers would give you basically no chance at getting a decent base

acoustic cedar
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Was wondering why I can't filter the other one

onyx escarp
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Since I know they also have a few specific types for boots/gloves/amulets

acoustic cedar
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Thanks guys, I actually jsut realized I had rare ticked in my filter but not exalted for rune daggers

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This has been an eventful topic lol

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acoustic cedar
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Yeah for all I know I could have missed a bis dagger for myself 😄

static flower
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Does anyone know if the LP of a unique depends on where you fulfilled the prophecy? As in do the chances change depending on if I fulfilled the prophecy at 500 corruption vs 100 corruption, or are the rates fixed for prophecies?

grave dock
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Doubt it matters where. Wouldn't make sense.

solid seal
# static flower Does anyone know if the LP of a unique depends on **where** you fulfilled the pr...

For general items, we know from the 1.0 patch notes that LP chance increases from corruption.

"Average legendary potential and weaver’s will now also scale up slightly with corruption. For example, Uniques have around a 5% higher chance for 1+ LP at 100 corruption, 10% at 300 corruption, and 14% at 600 corruption."

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-1-0-patch-notes/62536/3#corruption-scaling-8

grave dock
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any info on past 600 corruption? Would love that info kek

solid seal
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It falls off pretty hard. probably 17% at 1200, 19% at 2400, 20% at 4800.

grave dock
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where u get those numbers from lol

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Probably true, but still. 😄

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oh i see how u got it

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good mathz

solid seal
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I'm just throwing out numbers, only EHG knows what they are.

next cape
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Yeah I don't know what the exact numbers are, but from completely anecdotal experience the scaling diminishes drastically once you get past the 800-1,000 Corruption range in my experience. I don't know the numbers but I could see a tangible difference from Empowered Monolith start until maybe 650/700 Corruption or so.

static flower
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I was told by someone else earlier that it's a fixed rate for LP on prophecy drops

red cypress
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does COF prophecies drop boss specific items ?

oak harbor
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its the same rate as rune of ascendance no?

oak harbor
red cypress
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ohh 😦

wide ruin
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anybody experiences prophecies changing after you purchase them. It happens to me about half the time.

cyan orbit
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is rank 2 of COF not working correctly RN? just blasted 50 runes of ascendance on COF belts and none were preserved.

minor frost
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If they did that's just mega unlucky

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50/50 chance of that happening

solid seal
cyan orbit
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i was just unlucky. just preserved the very next rune that dropped.

silent arrow
weary aspen
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im at 2k, and I havent seen a single 2lp boss drop yet

solid seal
molten oar
silent arrow
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oh true and thats not accounting the doubled base chance for lp1 from COF, so its actually quite small

weary aspen
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common ones 2lp arent rare

solid seal
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roflmfao, of course you likely haven't seen an lp2 twisted heart... the chance is still less than 1% even with corruption bonus

silent arrow
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well thats baseline 1/153 so ofc you havent

molten oar
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it's over 1% with CoF multiplier

silent arrow
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its like 1.31% with COF

weary aspen
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people with low corr get it

molten oar
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yeah I don't think you get that much more % chance to get LP from 2k corr compared to like 500-600, but you do get to the boss faster and a higher chance to get the item to drop to begin with at least

weary aspen
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after certain point, the stability gain doesn't increase

silent arrow
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the only reason to run on 2kc is for the favor gain tbh

weary aspen
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favor is useless for me

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im mg

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I do get rare drops to sell from time to time

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I make like 100m a day avg

silent arrow
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oh is favor useless in MG?

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how does favor gain work for listing items on MG?

weary aspen
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its not useless, its used to gain rep and buy/sell items

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but I got to rank 10 a long time ago and I have too much favor to spend

silent arrow
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how much does it cost to buy stuff with favor in MG?

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like lets say an lp3 exsang or something

slim veldt
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heya does mad alchemist ladle drop from prohpecies, or only from the mages?

solid seal
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just mages

weary aspen
slim veldt
slim veldt
weary aspen
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I dont even look at favor when buying

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just the price

serene dirge
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ok so how do I earn reputation for COF?

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or favor i guess its called

grave dock
violet oriole
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Can i get Reign of winter or Orian Eye through prophecies?

frail hare
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prophecies do not drop boss uniques

violet oriole
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okay ty

serene dirge
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Well, apparantly discord hasn't really caught on with this gaming community. Guess I'll go seek my answers elsewhere.

arctic vigil
serene dirge
noble wedge
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got a double drop 1lp red ring with 2 maxrolls and 3 19/20 rolls

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praise COF

ripe spruce
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when Prophecy says +1 LP item, does it mean at least 1 or strictly 1 ?

west estuary
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Appearently its strickly 1 so its just bad

ripe spruce
spiral sand
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anyone knows what would be the best way to actually farm idols that have double helath on them ?

grave dock
smoky plank
serene dirge
elder torrent
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ok meinmachandholden

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thats a pretty hurtful thing to say and is not welcome in this christian subchannel

rough depot
pearl cairn
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You also cannot hold anyone else accountable for your actions

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My experience is that 90% of the people here are actually helpful

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Also your attitude was pretty bad. You expected to get an answer right away and if you didn’t get one you leaving ?

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Whats this princess attitude ?

serene dirge
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None of the above actually. Just wanted to see the reaction to my comment. Your responses didn't fail to entertain lol

pearl cairn
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Oh that’s sweet. I’ve seen that response many times too. Good try to escape princess

serene dirge
pearl cairn
little coral
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did they nerf xp tome favour rate?

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i picked up 3 tome and barely got 300

somber crag
pearl cairn
little coral
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bruh they bloody stealth nerfed xp tomes

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so much for "communication"

atomic parrot
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does cof work on titans rest chests with the multipliers etc?

somber crag
little coral
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no it doesnt

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the flat rate for 100 empowered

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was 300k

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after picking up 3 tomes you got about 2k favour

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now you get 200

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ill check on my lvl 100

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1min

pearl cairn
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I think they only disabled the doubled books

west crag
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Just triple checking: Orian's eye is not a boss unique and can drop from prophecies right? I've been slamming Unique amulet prophecies all the time but haven't seen a single one

little coral
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i just checked with an alt on 500 corruption

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i got the same xp

pearl cairn
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Corruption only affects the mobs xp/favour

serene dirge
little coral
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im telling you the tomes are nerfed favour gain

pearl cairn
west crag
elder torrent
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some interaction about tomes and keys not being items

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lala

little coral
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no they nerfed the favour it gives as well

elder torrent
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i meant that

grave dock
elder torrent
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me bad englando when drinko

somber crag
finite gust
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Why does a prophecy for 8 times (8 weavers will) items cost 4000 favor, but a prophecy for 8 times (16 weavers will) items costs only 3000 favor? They both require killing a timeline boss, and the more expensive one also requires more corruption. Shouldn't the better prophecy be more expensive?

finite gust
elder torrent
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ye its a disaster

stable hamlet
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they nerfed CoF in an attempt to nerf MG

elder torrent
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sounds like mental gymnastics to me

supple field
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How do you guys think CoF will fare against pinnacle bosses come 1.1?

unreal nest
supple field
unreal nest
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Then its impossible to say how anyone will fare against them - since we have no idea what they will be or how they will be tuned

sage hearth
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CoF will be far better off than MG

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Any even remotely good Meta item will run you 10' if not 100's of millions gold per item

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Good luck putting together a build there with all the rampant inflation and RMT going on

west crag
supple field
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but I kinda see a lot of room for dissapointment

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either they will be too hard for CoF or too easy for MG

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since classes are def up to rebalance come 1.1

unreal nest
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Stop with the mental gymnastics - we have no info on Pinnacle bosses. Trying to guess about their approachability is throwing a dart in a pitch black room after spinning around 100 times and hoping you hit the dartboard

vestal finch
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except the dartboard is in the next room

solid seal
solid seal
hoary bridge
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CoF feels very much like a full seasons worth of grinding/play kind of faction, MG sounds like it's a 'I want and need this now' kind of faction. I wonder if in the long run of a cycle that CoF will catch up to MG on leaderboards since all MG gets is setting the bar early.

solid seal
# little coral no they nerfed the favour it gives as well

Experience tomes only scale up until area and character levels 95. At that point, the maximum experience you get for each tome is 353.3k. Experience converts to favor at a rate of 750:1, so you would get 471 favor from each tome (1413 favor for 3 tomes). Corruption, experience blessing, and experience shrines do not influence tome experience gains. They only effect monster kills. Just tested it in game. Completed an experience tome reward echo. My favor before collecting the reward was 3553. My favor after was 4966, a gain of 1413. https://imgur.com/a/ZaP4Lz8

solid seal
# finite gust Why does a prophecy for 8 times (8 weavers will) items cost 4000 favor, but a pr...

The prophecy for WW8 unlocks earlier (rank 2) while WW16 unlocks later (rank 6). Do not do the prophecies if you are trying to get WW on helmets or body armours. Both prophecies are currently bugged as they drop rare/exalted helms/chests instead of uniques with WW of those item types. Other armor types work fine though. edit - Essentially, the prophecy reward for an event completion can drop a rare/exalt helm/body, giving you nothing.

finite gust
solid seal
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the next time you complete an event, you may want to make sure you got everything. Ran them for Majasa in campaign, any boss in monos, and rare monsters in empowered monos. None dropped Unique helms/body armours with WW. https://imgur.com/a/jm66Fot

lost sedge
solid seal
# lost sedge There aren't helms or body armors with WW.

The prophecy is supposed to drop random unique armours. The types include helms and bodies in addition to gloves, belts, boots. "Unique Armour (X Weaver's Will)" only drops gloves, boots, belts, and shields. It doesn't unique drop helms or bodies. Instead, it drops rare/exalted helms and bodies

unreal nest
solid seal
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that would explain it then.

lost sedge
regal jetty
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Any guides to how to go about properly using prophecies? Or should I just grab anything I want whenever

polar lichen
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Just grab what you need.

regal jetty
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Got it.

lost sedge
polar lichen
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You can buy the lenses from the CoF merchant downstairs in the centre from the stars where you pick your prophecies.

supple field
hoary bridge
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If you're wanting to get the best as soon as possible, thanks to large player pool MG has your back. If you don't mind taking your time and building up slowly, CoF is the way to go.

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Or, rather, probably a better comparison. MG is best in normal/hardcore play with other people. CoF is best in SSF and SAF, they each have their domains to take care of.

supple field
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But I would really like for EHG to pull some stats and give us stream/post about state of facrions

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Do they perform up to intended standard and plans for future

hoary bridge
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Odds are, too, as this is the first cycle of full release, they are going to spend the entire cycle gathering data on it all.

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Getting info right now would be an incomplete data set

supple field
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I think right now they should have enough data about early mono progression

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And what to change

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But with rmt it's kinda hard to pull data now and I'm not sure if it will improve later

acoustic cedar
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Don't tell me broken keys are still a mystery after all this time?

hoary bridge
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Broken keys, what are those?

acoustic cedar
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You can get them from prophecies at rank 10

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It's some sort of mystery

hoary bridge
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That sounds exciting 👀

acoustic cedar
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Maybe that's for next major patch and has no use yet

west crag
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Is there any way to increase the chances of Heorot dropping Reign of Winter? I've been getting the helm 6 kills in a row

regal pasture
west crag
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Dang

regal pasture
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Yeah. Heorot always drops only one of those two items, 50% chance for each, totally unaffected by corruption/empowered, and then there are two other uniques on the loot table, one only available in empowered monoliths, with their drop rates affected by corruption like usual.

west crag
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Got it. And Throne of Ambition? Best farmed at higher corruption or better at normal monolith because you only need 250 stability to trigger the boss fight?

wide sandal
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Everything better in empowered

steel yarrow
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I'm not quite finished leveling with MG, and I'm considering swapping. Can anyone convince to leave for CoF rq?

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wide sandal
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Botters duping hasn't ruined cof

elder torrent
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im lp3 and worryfree over here

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them MG youngsters have too high expectations!

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i tellya ha-what

west crag
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wide sandal
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U gain way more stability and droprate

white narwhal
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I'm enjoying COF, actually like 40k dps on frostbite with my runemaster

ruby pulsar
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whats the meta for the 3rd lens?

next cape
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Whatever you're farming assuming you arent using content blockers (which you shouldnt IMO because the reroll cost is low enough)

ruby pulsar
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Fair enough, cheers

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hexed ember
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Hey, when i switch from merchants guild to the fortune i cant wear items i bought on marketplace anymore, right?

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hexed ember
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okay, ty

jolly trail
chrome smelt
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Is COF just bad?
I'm about 90h in, lvl 96 on runemaster mage, COF lvl 7 (almost 8), and I can't even get 0LP variants of my (non-boss drop) uniques... meanwhile on MG theyre basically free at 0LP...

I'm doing prophecies and farming the correct monos but nothing. I have 8+ stash tabs of uniques and still missing 3 of the 6 uniques for my build.. and again, I don't even have 0LP variants of them.

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And especially for mage, the amount of uniques that are catered for minions, which sre basically useless for mages as 0 abilities that summon anything, feels extra depressing to keep getting.
I mean I have 2 LP4 bee gloves :)...

worthy hill
chrome smelt
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Yeah, at the start I thought that ok MG is fir when you want to grind hard and buy a couple items that are the best lf the best, max rolls LP4, and COF would be if you just want to get your base items and roll with it.

Unfortunstely even getting 0LP variants seems basically impossible, pure RNG. Could go 1k hours without getting an uncommon unique drop

worthy hill
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I've been farming now 5 days for an axe and a sword. My friend bought himself the same axe, lp2 off the Bazaar in 5 mins for 2m.
I'm only staying CoF cause of the time and effort wasted so far. I may as well hit lvl 10.
But I'ts an awfully balanced system in regards to effot vs reward if you comepare it to MG.

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It actually reminds me of a Blizzard Loot system, where MAU's are the priority and not gameplay. Shakka

jolly trail
chrome smelt
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Yeah, if there was any way to guarantee an item. E.g. trade 10 uniques for 1 of your choice, it would be so much more fun. Literally played for 12h today farming my chest and helmet and got nothing. Didn't even get a random 1LP variant of the other common uniques I use currently. Just 3 more pages of necro, rogue and druid uniques

jolly trail
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A lot builds need uniques. Cof is pretty bad outside a few world drops.

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I can get my lp0 red rings with 100k favor

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You really need to play coop with the same people to make it decent. Have filters going for everyone's specs. Get some obsidian reso

chrome smelt
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That's also the thing I've been playing mostly coop (probably 60 out of 90h) with 2 of my friends, and I have yet to get 1 obsidian reso for either of them... one of em got 1 for me.

noble wedge
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1lp

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Ty cof

sly anchor
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if I have a unique glove specific prophecy that requires me to kill a specific boss, and that boss drops unique gloves, does that increase my chances of getting those gloves from that boss or are the unique gloves from the prophecy still only pulled from the non-boss specific loot table?

worthy hill
worthy hill
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I'll go look one up.

noble wedge
molten oar
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pretty much all attribute stacking builds use at least one of them

worthy hill
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👍

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Just dropped an Hakars Axe after 5 days from Soulfire dung. 1lp

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Still to gamble yet 😉

dawn galleon
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And i dont think its fair to compare CoF to MG. CoF is more solo self found orientated, with some extra benefits like playing with a group and trading with someone that is a friend. Also has an option to more target farm, get more drops etc, but it still is somewhat SELF found. Where MG there are thousands of people finding items you can just buy.. ofc its the easy way out. But you cant come into CoF and expect the same EZ endgame LOL i just buy items, you gotta grind for it

sly anchor
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I mean, you can compare the 2 (and you should), considering they are the only 2 options and should offer comparable rewards.

dawn galleon
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You cant compete with thousands of people

sly anchor
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Im not even talking about competing with thousands of people. I am talking about things like end game viability. Once you get your full set of maxed out gear, CoF becomes less and less profitable. Imagine farming 500 corr monoliths and an LP4 rare unique drops. The most you can do with that is vendor it for 500g. As Merchant you can turn around and sell it for 10+ mil gold

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Merchant never falls off, and only gets stronger in the endgame

dawn galleon
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True, there should be a better way to get gold in CoF, i agree

sly anchor
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So one is useful from 1-100+, the other is useful from 1-75ish

dawn galleon
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Cos atm your gold income to do Lightless is kinda trash

supple field
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CoF is good between setting up your items after switching builds and farming for straight BiS

dawn galleon
#

But i think CoF should be considered more of a SELF found faction. Where you dont trade, you find it yourself or in a group. Thats for me at least the idea behind CoF

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And if you want more gold, ez items, super endgame scaling you should be MG

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Its the same in PoE, if you are aiming to 100%min/max your build, SSF isnt the place, trade is

supple field
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also CoF is NOT SSF

dawn galleon
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I know

supple field
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you have SSF option when creating character

dawn galleon
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Im just saying if you want to min/max you should go trade

noble wedge
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And thats why cof dont really need buffs

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And its pointless to compare to mg

dawn galleon
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Yes!

noble wedge
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If you look at MG and think wow they have all these nice things. You can always go mg

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Cof shouldnt by design be comparable

dawn galleon
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The only thing i would like to see is more gold income, how are CoF doing Lightless Arbor??? You can do 1 or 2 and be broken for idk how long

supple field
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the way I see factions they should either provide comparable ways to gear to "full build" (not BiS) or they need own niche

dawn galleon
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And at this moment, rank 9 sets drop, is trash. I would much prefer something like boosted boss drop rate (nothing crazy)

supple field
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because it's only gonna get harder for CoF as we get new stuff and harder endgame

sly anchor
# noble wedge Cof shouldnt by design be comparable

The rewards should be comparable though. At rank 9 MG you can buy legendary weapons. At rank 9 CoF the full set drops if a set item drops. I mean by the time you hit rank 9 you already have damn near every full set you could want, and more.

noble wedge
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The real reward is the lens slot

dawn galleon
noble wedge
#

You also get new prophecies

sly anchor
dawn galleon
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Rank 9 set thing is a joke atm

supple field
#

tbh MG only needs lvl 8

noble wedge
dawn galleon
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But if you make CoF and MG comparable, why even play MG. Why even go through the hassle of selling and buying etc. If you can just find it in CoF.. that wouldnt make any sense

supple field
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I would see CoF favour required nerfs since there is no reason higher ranks to be locked after such grind every cycle

sly anchor
supple field
dawn galleon
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Trade will ALWAYS be far superior to non-trade

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Thats how it is

supple field
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I'm ready to take 2+ weeks to gear my build

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but please make it possible in 1 cycle tyme

dawn galleon
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If you dont like it slow, go MG, noone is stopping you

supple field
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I don't need perfect drops, but let me influence item base at least

marsh zodiac
#

its close to impossible to get upgrades on a single character after a while

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on CoF

supple field
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I stopped playing after leveling from 80 - 100 and most of my drops wasn't even correct bases not even talking about good affixes

acoustic cedar
#

Are the void horror prophecies still bugged, or just on the the vision statues?

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beacons*

odd palm
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imagine if we can target farm specific bases/affixes as CoF

supple field
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I would consider character complete if I got to t20+ items with good bases but currently it may as well be a dream

dawn galleon
#

That would be insane lol

acoustic cedar
supple field
#

we already got targeting bases in prophecies

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but it seems bugged

#

since I only got like 5 bases from all possible

acoustic cedar
#

What do you mean?

supple field
#

rare prophecies

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supple field
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if I was able to roll rare prophecies for my bases then I would be already happy

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since that would solve getting good t20

acoustic cedar
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There's... bone amulet, rune dagger, crusader gauntlets,. I have no idea why you can only specifically farm these 3 bases

supple field
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and from that random exzalteds

supple field
acoustic cedar
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I thought it was caster type bases, but it's not, I don't see a pattern

supple field
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if I could get falconry armor or falconry helmet or ivory quiver

acoustic cedar
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@supple field The shrine boots are rare only, no proph for exalted sadly

supple field
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I would be happy

odd palm
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i never chose any rare quality prophecies before

supple field
odd palm
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if it was exalted, i might. but there's no use for rare qualities

acoustic cedar
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To be fair, the prophecies that dont specify a base, drop a lot more stuff

noble wedge
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Rare has chance to turn exalted

acoustic cedar
#

Oh yeah

noble wedge
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Ur doin it wrong

odd palm
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but why not just get 15 exalted

acoustic cedar
#

^

noble wedge
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You get double rewards

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At rank 10

supple field
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I'd rather 2 good bases turned exalted than drop 0 good bases

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exalted drops are good for LP slams

odd palm
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i rather have an option seperate from prophecies to target farm base types

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i think that would make it more comparable to MG

supple field
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but for build with only 1-2 uniques it feels like I can't get decent gear

supple field
odd palm
supple field
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then you can farm either target for exalted to wear or non-specific for slams

odd palm
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yea

next cape
# odd palm but why not just get 15 exalted

Because later you don't care about T6 you care about T7 Exalted when you're trying to perfect your min maxing. The Rare specific prophecies are extremely effective because all of the CoF ranks such as Rare-> Exalted, T7 affixes more common etc. all can apply for 1/4th or less of the price of an Exalted specific Prophecy.

supple field
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with so much affix combinations maybe 10% will be craftable

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also I'd rather get more forging potential than set bonus

odd palm
supple field
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even when they fix sets unless we'll get mechanic to somehow connect set items

next cape
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If you're looking specifically for T7 affixes to slam it can't be stated enough how efficient fishing Rare prophecies are. Not saying go out of your way to reroll them no but if you are looking just for slams etc. they're far and away the best EV

supple field
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there are many possible changes for CoF that would make gearing more deterministic without making it as powerfull as MG

next cape
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And obviously Rare Rings prophecy and Rare Bone Amulet prophecies are goated

supple field
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I wonder in which way it is bugged that only 5 bases appear as prophecies

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cos there's no way it was intendet

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I could kinda see rare base prophecies being targeted for early empowered

oblique cave
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So say you kill a certain boss with prophecies for it, does it drop items from that bosses loot pool, or is it general unique loot

solid seal
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the latter.

oblique cave
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gotcha thank you

lucid pawn
dawn galleon
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Yea the only thing i would like is more gold (to properly run Arbor) and maybe change Rank 9 to boosted boss drops

lapis wasp
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is it common that i purchase a prophecy and it still doesnt show up in my prophecies researched?

viscid kernel
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lost count of the number of mages i've killed farming this ladle smh 😭

gritty agate
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What’s the meta for cof: take double dip lenses and a lense for the desired item or take the double reward lense, the lense for desired item and a blocker lense? Speaking for optimal favor use.

keen epoch
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the first one

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rerolling is cheap, no reason to block content

frail hare
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I block arena, i dont even wanna be remindet that it exists

lucid pawn
next cape
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If re-roll was more cost prohibitive I'd see a reason to use blockers, but as it stands just isn't worth it IMO

frail hare
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They arent worth it yeah. I just dont like arena showing up

wide sandal
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Arenas fun if u save up like 5 and get 30 relics a run

dawn galleon
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I only take arena if the proph is real nice and its not some crazy tier 4 w/e bull

coral hatch
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Do you get more CoF points per kill at higher corruption?

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I guess Favor is the proper word

solid seal
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Every 750 XP earned = 1 favor. Corruption, Blessing, and Shrine increases the experience per kill which in turn increases the favor per kill. Every favor gives you 2 faction reputation when you earn that favor and 2 faction reputation when you spend that favor.

coral hatch
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oh its based on exp, thanks

formal agate
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I have an exaulted weapon from CoF. Now I'm MG and have a LP2 weapon from MG. Can I put the affixes on the new MG weapon and it still be MG or is it going to change it to CoF?

viscid kernel
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Do you earn extra favor in higher corruption?

unreal nest
fickle oracle
formal agate
unreal nest
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Mike from EHG confirmed in that post that items can't have conflicting tags. So either it was a COF tagged item and a Non-tagged item - or you need to submit a bug report

formal agate
tired dune
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Does the content you are doing influence the prophecy reward? ie running tier 2 dungeon vs tier 3 or 4

solid seal
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"We’ve got a few very specific dials that we can turn to adjust MG’s power or CoF’s power (or both) relative to each other if one turns out to be notably stronger than the other in practice. It is set up to be balanceable with regards to each other. They don’t really have much direct impact on each other. They have the indirect impact that you mentioned above for sure but we’ve worked in the tools to be able to adjust that ourselves if necessary."

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hehehehehe

versed ocean
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Is black sun still buggy?

solid seal
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I've only noticed Rahyeh go invisible (sometimes reappears after a mistimed swoop-in animation) or teleport to another part of the zone (eventually comes back to the main platform)

hollow tartan
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MG can just buy boss drops (Although at absurd prices because of the RMT issues)

wide sandal
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The gold dupes killed mg hard

hollow tartan
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its insane

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I dont like making meta builds so i cant keep up with the people grinding insane corruption for good items, I like to experiment and make my own builds but with MG I wont ever earn enough

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it sucks so Im switching to COF for my other slots

cedar wren
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could anyone hook me up with the wp for sanctum of the architect? i have like 6 prophecies for unique daggers there but skipped the questline

pastel tangle
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mg inflation means you can fund of meta builds really easily

serene furnace
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once you hit rank 8, is it more efficient to get rare prophecies vs exalted?

native isle
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if I switch from CoF to MG, do I keep the benefits of what I unlocked in CoF?

unreal nest
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Items tagged to CoF become unusable - all your current favor it forfeit - all your current character prophecies are deleted. You will start MG at Rank 0 (unless you were MG Previously) - your CoF rank will remain if you change back

native isle
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what about the ranks of CoF, like doubling item drops or increasing rarities?

unreal nest
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That is a CoF bonus - it applies when you are playing a character that is a member of CoF

native isle
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makes sense, ok thanks

gritty agate
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@keen epoch @next cape thank you guys!

pastel tangle
unreal nest
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sure

keen epoch
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but the only thing people can produce showing a "dupe" is that gamblers falacy thing where pressing sort brings the items back into your inventory but from what ive been told from a bunch of people is that its just a visual bug and when you zone or log out it all dissapears

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i think the market is just catching up to what things are actually worth, so people who need items used in meta builds are having to pay a huge premium for those items. no reselling means supply will forever be significantly lower than demand, especially for meta items

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i dont think theres actually been any real dupes. nobody has ever been able to show proof of one and then also prove that gold is usable and tradeable and remains after logging and/or zoning

amber idol
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Trying to get a leviathan carver, 70 2 handed swords in and no sight 😬

lucid pawn
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So many qheels of torment... so much dissapointment.. best ive gotten after 26 of them is 1LP but low rolled nec pen

humble cipher
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are weapon lenses actually working

teal axle
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are lirakas claws actually like a giga rare unique or something? I know it says common on LET, but ive done a crap ton of prophecies, gotten hundreds of glove drops, and only ever gotten 3 pairs of lirakas

spare valve
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i saw a ton of them going for other gloves

amber idol
teal axle
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maybe thats a typo and it meant 1 in 1700?

potent current
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In merchant guild is it better to sell yellow items or purple to evel up faction rank

foggy shell
vocal lance
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I've vendored tons of those gloves, they seem fairly common

gilded anchor
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Who thinks we need a nerf? Currently seeing all merchants fly by all the fortunates

foggy shell
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Don't care about MG 😄

gilded anchor
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I mean for gearing, at beginning of cycle maybe fortune was better but now feels we not being given much credit even with a few extra T7 rolls

foggy shell
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The thing you're forgetting is that most in CoF aren't in CoF because it's the "best" or "optimized", it's because we 100% prefer that playstyle, and looting our own stuff.

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Also PoE made me puke just thinking about trading 😛

teal axle
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yea ive been tempted many times now to swap to mg lol, i joined cof at first because its a much more fun way to find 95% of your build. But its paaaainful for that last 5

gilded anchor
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I love farming my gear too but currently feels a bit wonky the system, even with all the buffs the % of actually getting something useful is extremelly low, having the name fortune, you may believe that the drops would be a little more favourable in rolls towards your build

foggy shell
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You do you 🙂 But for me trading would atm just ruin my experience.

vocal lance
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That's really the biggest pain point with CoF for me. I really wish they would boost the odds of getting like T7 skill drops

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If you're MG and you get a good T7 skill helm drop, but it's not the one you want, you just sell it and buy the one you need

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With CoF, you just... Bank them for that alt you're never going to roll

gilded anchor
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Something along the lines of being able to pick an item and 1 attribute would be enough, being able to have a 2nd layer of screening on items or lowering drop pools to even more specific items, per say, you activate boots, all drops in the map will only be boots, and nothing else

teal axle
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or a way for cof players to craft up to t6

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if i could get a solid drop with a t7 and then add a t6 to it

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id be v happy

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Even if it takes quite a bit to do it, just having something to work towards would be cool. Like what if when you shattered an item with an exalted trait you got a fragment for that trait and you could combine 20 fragments or something to create a shard that upgrades a trait from 5 to 6

frail hare
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i think its good enough as is, when it comes to exalteds. you get a crapton more than MG, just from the 25% chance for rares to upgrade to exalted mod. that also counts for experimental items it seems like, so more than 25% of them will be exalted (which lets you slam them on uniques)

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the one thing i'd change, atleast for now, would be to change the full set drop bonus into "drop restricted uniques roll their LP 3 times and drop with the highest of the 3 rolls" or something along those lines.

teal axle
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yea we get more exalts than mg, just that 98% of them are duds or arent usable for the char we're playing

frail hare
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then play more than 1 character? thats not the game systems fault

gilded anchor
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For any build, you might think well maybe this bit can be fitted into another build but not even like that, how many bits have dropped only for 1 stat to be wrong and make the whole piece useless, true that you can gamble and cross fingers it changes into something useful 99% it just doesnt

frail hare
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if anything, i actively loath the fact that body armor/helmets/relics are so insanely drop biased that its a pain to gear up whenever i start a class i havent played before.

frail hare
teal axle
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those poor mg players not getting the opportunity to ignore all the t6 hp regen exalts we get dropped and having to buy the ones they want i really feel for them

gilded anchor
# frail hare and its several times that for MG since they dont drop extra exalts, with the sa...

Although the ingame text says one thing, in reality is the opposite, MG true they dont drop exalts, but they dont need to either, just by gearing ever so slighly better you can achieve higher corruptions which then bring you to levels with the CoF buff, so its a game of cat and mouse, CoF always taking the hit, cause even being able to farm all the juucy T7s you still need them to roll in a very specific way. The system is in place but seems like half finished, needs some more polishing.
And it dont mind the grind (Ex-BDO Player, doubt you can find a game to grind more xD) for an item but I dislike is the tediousness of not being able to target an item, what is the point of having maps with supposedly extra drops of an item to find you go in and nothing useful drops.

lucid pawn
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How do i have 7 desth rsttles with 0LP and not a single cycle of putrescence ring? Fml

paper tree
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Joined mg yesterday and thought I’d list an lp3 bow for a laugh at 100m. Then it sold. Wtf lol

modern iris
remote forum
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There really needs to be a way " not easily obtainable the right amount of grinding ( 2 weeks or so or whatever ) to be able to unlock ( obviously not make them tradeable )each item you have to come back to COF , so many players quitting because of gold buying has hyper inflated the market and they dont want to lose their builds. ( i guess they could just farm the items again ) but there needs to be some kind of way to interconnect with COF so that when the market gets flooded with hyper inflation like this the populace can just say no and start to slowly head back to COF until the market resets itself.

I understand we will never get rid of gold sellers but we can certainly make it so that in someway even if it takes a bit of time that you can slowly unlock your items so that you can kill demand so the market goes back to normal.

Just shower thoughts

twin vigil
elder torrent
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like 90% of my tabs are trash actually but i CANT stop hoarding

dapper mango
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is it possible to get every unique item out of the prophecies? like also the ones you only can farm from specific bosses?

foggy shell
frail jay
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circle of fortune has given me crippling depression. i was told by many that i needed to rush to 200 corruption to get a decent piece of gear and ive managed to painstakingly do with that with not great gear but im still not getting anything

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im cof 9

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i can crush any enemy i find but i die in litteraly one shot

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i feel like everyone is trolling me and not giving me actual good advice

lunar escarp
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200 corruption unlocks all loot drops

frail jay
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still not getting what i need to survive 200 corruption :/

lunar escarp
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it's still RNG

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it might also be your build that has no focus on defense or the like

frail jay
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if i do that my wraith seems to lose a majority of its dmg

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im running a wraithlord setup

lunar escarp
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craft gear from decent bases

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helped me

frail jay
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what are bases?

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im a new player and im kinda lost

lunar escarp
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dropped gear

frail jay
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i was just told to speedrun corruption 200 and nothing else

lunar escarp
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you do what you wanna do

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just enjoy the game

heady knot
# remote forum There really needs to be a way " not easily obtainable the right amount of grind...

i think its safe to say that at least we have an option here, which is well thought of by the developers. a market/action house is always a pain in the ass in other games and specially for people who do not want to spend time playing "wallstreet".. at the same time as an active player you always feel left out if you don't use this mechanic since it has a big impact on the endgame (lets leave out people that intentionally play without player interaction in general)

every game with such a mechanic has issues with rmt, and at least it takes a good while to get accounts to lvl 10 reputation on mg. i see where you are comming from but le is already doing more in that term than other games i have played so far..but i agree looking on the prizes that the market is completely inflated right now. im sure they will find a solution to prevent that even more eventually

lunar escarp
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rushing 200 corruption just unlocks all possible drops from the monolith loottables

frail jay
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i do enjoy the game but the many different pieces of advice is downright confusing

lunar escarp
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and raises drop chances for some stuff by 4 %

frail jay
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many people tell me to just run lowlife setup and other tell me to run pure defence

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i still get one shot on lowlife ward

lunar escarp
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again, pick some gear that is most of the way where you want it to be and look into crafting

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missing def? -> throw in the defences on an affix

gleaming mirage
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How much ward do you usually have? low life ward scales incredibly well, but you kinda gotta get there

lunar escarp
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ward iirc benefits from healing effectiveness

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so that would be something to put on your gear/keep an eye out for

gleaming mirage
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That's a very specific Healing Hands bug

frail jay
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i have 3.8k-5k at anytime

lunar escarp
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ah

gleaming mirage
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These "different pieces of advice" in terms of what to run really just lead to different builds

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I'd recommend against speedrunning 200 corruption too hard if you're new, the game deliberately punishes dying quite a bit

heady knot
# frail jay what are bases?

as takkov said, get a decent loot filter that only shows usable item bases and items with affixes that you actually need (if you are running a "mainstream" build you find those filters everywhere).. then just craft yourself some decent gear and you will have a very solid base.

also, what i missed until empowered monliths, i think the most important affix is +1-5 on your main ability. ability points have such a huge impact on your strength its crazy actually 😄 but maybe missing it was just my issue, i didnt value that enough

lunar escarp
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^still hoping for that +3 frostclaw drop 🤣

gleaming mirage
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Oh yeah +level is huge, I got a +3 Void Cleave relic but +5 would give me a sizeable multiplicative boost

heady knot
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i was so used to other rpgs where its like +2% crit chance, but in le it really feels like ascension "+40% crit chance and you can now fly" (ok that might be alittle overtuned but you get the point xD)

gleaming mirage
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3.8k-5k ward isn't a lot, it is a bigger pool than life gets but with life you can go for leech which is absurd in this game

lunar escarp
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so low life wraithlord is running the experimental gloves mainly?

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for ward gen

gleaming mirage
heady knot
gleaming mirage
heady knot
gleaming mirage
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I'll look at it wishing for a crafting league that can affect uniques

frail hare
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its not really that lucky tho. the lowlevel stuff drops regularely as 3LP

jolly trail
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Does r10 not double rune of ascendance proph?

acoustic cedar
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Only equippable items afaik

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Includes idols

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And I think the term is duplicate, not double

acoustic cedar
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I guess technically runes glyphs etc are not "items"?

heady knot
frail hare
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guess it depends on how much one plays. we've found a bunch of 4LP already for the lowlevel garbage. tho all of those can ofc be reused as leveling legendaries

gleaming mirage
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I wonder how much favor it'd take to find a 3LP heart trough neck prophecies

heady knot
frail jay
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i think the game hates my wraithlord lol

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got on my shatter strike spellsword and immediately got +3 for my main skills

remote forum
jolly trail
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that's a pretty big let down. i already thought r10 was a joke

sleek parrot
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Market sucks but it’s only bad for hype builds tbh you can still get what you want for stuff just not lp3-4

jolly trail
sleek parrot
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I was so tilted

jolly trail
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the only plus is if you plan on playing like every spec you are slowly amassing gear for everything

sleek parrot
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But the prices on some things is absurd they gotta make a ceiling on item prices

unreal nest
sleek parrot
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Well tragic

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Pay 1.5 bil for an item

unreal nest
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all you're going to do is drive high end items OFF the market - into P2P trading - and if gold excahnged is capped, you're going to open up more risk to people being scammed. Its all lose-lose.

jolly trail
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the rarest loot is so rare that you aren't reasonably going to get it on cof. you might get a few for random specs.

sleek parrot
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Like how much is gold that these guys are making sub par items worth 70 mill now lol

unreal nest
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The primary issue in Cycle 1 was the rampant duping - if they solve that for the next cycle, you will see some of the market stabilize.

If they actually allow you to search for real in the Bazaar you'll also see the economy stabilize - as right now its virtually impossible to know what your item is worth, or how many others like it are out there.

jolly trail
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ive played quite a bit in the 200-300c ranges and ive not gotten many big lp drops. i got a 3 lp laddle and that's probably the best ive seen

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i dont think that's even rare it's just a meta item

sleek parrot
unreal nest
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Laddle only comes from one place - and you got it with 3LP - yes its rare

jolly trail
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it's a lvl 16 item tho i dont think 3 i would consider super rare

sleek parrot
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Lvl dosent matter?

unreal nest
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So moving the goal post from rare to super rare - got it

sleek parrot
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It being a lower level req makes it even better too

jolly trail
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it's "Rare" on LE tools

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i happened to be playing with a warlock who needed it. so it worked out pretty well

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and he slammed it with 1 junk stat on his wand and still got all 3 good ones

noble wedge
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and also its not a rare item

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2lp has 12.75% chance to drop

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by default

sleek parrot
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But he said lp3

unreal nest
noble wedge
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im saying it should be even more with cof bonus

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ive had 4 ladles drop, out of which two were 2lp

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and 2 were 1 lp

unreal nest
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and this whol cycle youve only killed 50 mages?

noble wedge
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no, i kill every mage i see

jolly trail
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ive probably done close to 4k echos

noble wedge
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im at 1300 and 550 corruption

unreal nest
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so if the chance of dropping a 2LP Ladle was 12.75 - you should probably have alot more than 4 right?

noble wedge
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no

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when a drop happens, its 12.75

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the chance is for the lp not the item drop

unreal nest
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Exactly

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So quoting an arbitrary 12.75% is not relevant at all - because you still need to get the ladle to drop.

jolly trail
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that being one of my best drops on cof is sad. that's my point

noble wedge
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its relevant when you yourself bring up the lp in discussion

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and on the topic of rarity

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there are items i have not yet seen

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ever

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which ive target farmed

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that are truly rare

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and are established as such

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ladle not being one of them

unreal nest
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and we were discussing a 3LP ladle - which even at your own measurement is a 1.82% drop. Gonna go with needing to see 50 Ladles drop to get one - makes it rare.

noble wedge
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i disagree

jolly trail
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it's objectively rare. this is why cof is banannas

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farming a lp3 of a low lvl item should be doable

noble wedge
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it shouldnt

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lp is a bonus not a given

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if you want to pull 3lp gear on the daily, you should mg

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not cof

jolly trail
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im at 216 hrs played

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just swimming in mediocre loot

noble wedge
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im at 300 and im the same

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thats why im swithing to mg for next cycle

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im not hitting even the exalted bases i need

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i like minmaxing more than i like to admit

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so mg is the only way

jolly trail
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they probably have statistics on how well people are geared. the avg mg vs cof won't be close is my guess

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they are trying to make them "even"