💰┃merchants-guild

[crisp swallow]

It will

[nimble goblet]

jesus, even lp1 items are 1.5b

might as well just go b ack to the cof and try my luck

[feral drum]

what would you guys do if you were ehg

[nimble goblet]

dunno what ehg means

[feral drum]

without pushing the big red nuclear button

[gentle aspen]

i mean inflation got ignored bc 'arbor is inflation control' idk why hyperinflation wont be ignored

[feral drum]

@hardy lance @peak depot @pastel marlin

[split wave]

It's the game developer

[hardy lance]

I would do what I've been saying. Use ORM loggable functionality to only roll back impacted players.

Shut down MG first. Do the above, implement a fix, then re enable MG.

[nimble goblet]

oh oops lol

[hardy lance]

Sure, MG could be out for a day or two, but it would be better than rolling back everyone an unknown number of days

[desert venture]

What does "impacted players" mean when the gold is in circulation and likely changed hands 50+ times in the past day

[peak depot]

^

[hardy lance]

Loggable ORM functions tracks all that.

Assuming they have them implemented.

[desert venture]

You'd be rolling back all of MG + all MG/COF shared accounts though

[hardy lance]

Only the trading and gold.

Not random drops

[split wave]

They do log all MG transactions afaik

[hardy lance]

Or game progress

[fresh plover]

even p2p?

[split wave]

it would still be a very large undertaking to handle it all

[hardy lance]

It would take a couple of days for sure.

[split wave]

should, yeah - has to go through their servers

[desert venture]

That means you roll back all MG transactions and gold gain for all of MG + MG/COF shared accounts?

[fresh plover]

i sure hope so, but idk hard to belive in ehg after all of this, and even then damage is done

[turbid herald]

If I can't redeem a sale because of gold cap, will the sold auction stay until I've spent enough to have space to redeem it?

[hardy lance]

Not all gold gain, only gold traded or gained through auctions that are traced to bad accounts.

Again, this heavily assumes they have loggable behavior turned on.

[desert venture]

How does a single piece of gold get traced though

[split wave]

At least in this case, this seems like a security issue, not a typical game bug

[hardy lance]

This is different from normal Sql logs

[desert venture]

Assume you have 10M and you just sold an item to a bad actor for 1M

You now have 11M and you spend that 11M on an awesome exalted

Does your exalted transaction get rolled too?

[hardy lance]

All that would be rolled back

Yes

[feral drum]

thats going to make so many people mad

[desert venture]

What if you have 100M and you sold an item to a bad actor for 100k

[fading spruce]

They aren't gonna do anything. They'll fix the exploit/hack and that's it. Everything will reset in the next cycle.

[desert venture]

And you then go buy another item for 500k

[rare sun]

then the item should be rolled back aswell no?

[desert venture]

Does that transaction get rolled as well?

[feral drum]

its not a feasible solution

[rare sun]

i sold my 4lp to a bad actor for 1,5 b

[hardy lance]

Or they could subtract the gold from your acc if you have it.

[humble burrow]

Next cycle is in month lol

[hardy lance]

Maybe they let people keep items bought

[rare sun]

im ok with them taking my 1,5 back but only if they give me the item back

[desert venture]

I just don't know how they would do it

[dense flame]

Could t they just roll back the last 24 hours or something

[hardy lance]

It's all speculation. I'm saying it's possible to trace stuff using loggable ORM behavior if it's turned on

[novel geyser]

all of this assuming they have loggable transactions

[desert venture]

Gold also gets spent outside of auction too

[novel geyser]

if they dont then game over

[rare sun]

is not possible to do all of that for everyone

[fading spruce]

Exactly. It's gonna come out in a month or two. No reason for them to do rollbacks or anything ridiculous.

[desert venture]

And imagine someone then taking the gold from the second sale and using it for a third or 50th sale

They'd have to roll back each of those

[humble burrow]

I mean it’s such a long time like why do I need to wait 1-2 months to be able to play the game

[desert venture]

That seems so difficult compared to just a point in time rollback

[rare sun]

its just simply not doable

[peak depot]

even if what you are describing is possible for EHG and 'technically' removes the impact of the hack, people are not just going to say 'yep thats fair' and carry on playing. They will stop. The fix isn't in a vacuum

[desert venture]

What worries me most is they haven't frozen the market or trading

So the dupes are just going on and on

[rare sun]

that would seem more doable. but the items would have to come back to the people that sold aswell no?

[desert venture]

If they were discussing the problem, that would be the first thing rolled out imo

[hardy lance]

We don't know where they would draw the line either. Assuming they do some sort of rollback using loggable ORM behaviors, they could choose a line with the least impact

[peak depot]

I think they're more likely to do a heap of spin and announce a sooner cycle date with an apology (again)

[hardy lance]

It is. But it's a cleaner solution with less impact to the overall player base.

[rare sun]

i agree that a lot of people would quit but for example others others wouldnt like myself if things are done in a fari way

for example keeping my items that ive sold for crazy amounts of money to a clear gold dup account

[peak depot]

'we feel 1.0 gave us great opportunity to test factions and a market economy'etc etc

spin to win, cycle it

'we are excited to bring you the new bosses'

[fresh plover]

do u really believe they will do it, considering we have bugs from 2 years ago, several bugs that are missing decimal like previous warlock build that are still in the game. Like we have a BLESSING, grand blessing of poison chance still bugged, and all it has is missing 0

[rare sun]

have they even adress this anywhere?

[fresh plover]

if they cant fix that how are they gonna fix this mess

[peak depot]

Not that I've seen, probably war room if they have been able to get people in on easter saturday

[rare sun]

i dont know if they will do it, im just hoping for a fair solution, ive only been playing this game since launch so i dont know about prior bugs

[desert venture]

I just hope they can fix the dupe and do something to better monitor future dupes

It's depressing that the last response to dupes was "we need your help identifying them" when billions of gold are being printed in single transactions

[peak depot]

the poison chance blessing is so confusing, because it can roll below 65% too. I have a 50% roll, it suggests its about 25% of the roll potential, but the range is 65-10%. Big confuse.

[fresh plover]

cause its 65-100

missing 0

as always

[peak depot]

right, so whats a 50% chance doing there

[fresh plover]

its like 3rd instance of same missing 0

cause now it rolls from 10 to 65

instead of 65 to 100

[fading spruce]

10-65 makes more sense

[peak depot]

but the 50% is a quarter of the circle highlighted for roll potential

[rare kettle]

killing monsteres higher corruption means more favor right?

[fading spruce]

65-100 poison chance is pretty insane lol

[fresh plover]

o dont even look at taht, its all mess

[fresh plover]

it was always like that

its not insane

[tiny spire]

they must have already copied over 1k accounts with 2b gold inventory

[fresh plover]

if anything posion currently is the weakest ailment, only warlock brought it back due to overload

[tiny spire]

so evenif they fixed, nothing changes 🙂

[fading spruce]

I'm just saying 10-65 makes more sense than 65-100.

[peak depot]

the bleed is 65-100

[fresh plover]

how so when every other ailment rolls 65 to 100

?

[peak depot]

and grand blessings are often in the T7+ range

[fresh plover]

exactly ALL blessings are either t7 or t7+t5 rolls

[fading spruce]

Yeahgrand blessings are t7 range. 65-100 poison chance isn't t7

[fresh plover]

it is

thats 2h t7 roll

same for bleed and ignite

[split wave]

All the ailment chances are the same for affixes

[fading spruce]

Oh okay

Didn't think about two handers

[peak depot]

the flat armor from spirits is T7+T4 for example

[fading spruce]

My bad

[peak depot]

Whatever they do in response to this Mg issue, it's going to be a hard decision and I'll be keen to see how it goes, but I'm also probably just going to take a break until cycle 2 anyway, I've done like 250 hours since launch, thats a good run

[rare sun]

at least im rank 10 in cof aswell

[peak depot]

yeah same, I even have my build gear cof versions in stash so...they might get more hours out of me, but I dunno

[rare sun]

but i feel the same way 200 plus hours is worth my money already so waiting for a response or new cycle seem and adequate response to this exploit

[rare sun]

same aha,ha

[rare sun]

although i have to say my mg build is now way better then my cof build

[leaden wharf]

No lmai

A new cycle with what content?

The best is a rollback

[rare sun]

i think the new cycle would reset everything

dont really know much about seasons/cycles/leagues in arpgs

[turbid herald]

yup, current cycle characters move to legacy, new cycle characters start with nothing

[rare sun]

but the new cycle would have to come with bulletproff market against cheaters

[wicked umbra]

I think they should roll forward to even more fun content!

maybe roll sideways to a world where this didn't happen

[peak depot]

Tempest is right too though, that a new cycle which is exactly the same as 1.0 would be pretty bad for the game, they would need to bring forward whatever they have ready for 1.1, otherwise a new cycle is essentially a relaunch, if it is exactly the same

the steam reviews would never recover 😄

[rare sun]

of course he is right, no way they could realease a new cycle with the same content, there would need to be a real new cycle for that to happen

not just for the sake of resseting everything

[wicked umbra]

maybe the new content is figuring out interesting ways to duplicate your way to success

I guess that's just the old content though

[crisp swallow]

🤣🤣🔥🔥

[peak depot]

creative mode enabled

[turbid herald]

I believe i recall that the new cycle will have more endgame boss encounters per a recent dev stream

[novel geyser]

I'd love for the new cycle to have less bugs tbh

😂

[rare sun]

that HAS to be 1 of the many things that will come with new cycle or else is just goona get boring fast

[peak depot]

yeah but it's a question of what is ready much earlier than planned, if that is the route they take in response to this

[wicked umbra]

I would be shocked if they did that instead of a rollback or straight up doing nothing

[split wave]

One of the known features coming in 1.1 is a pinnacle boss of some sort

[junior niche]

I got a perf Frost Claw mana efficiency + armor+mana. I bet this will sell a lot.

[wicked umbra]

like it's gotta be a rollback, either targeted if possible or gamewide

[junior niche]

Idol

[peak depot]

I honestly think straight up doing nothing might be more likely, alongside a large blog post

[wicked umbra]

that would be hilarious and sad. maybe they just increase the holdable gold cap

it's the wild west bois

[peak depot]

massive temporary sales taxes to siphon the gold out

needs more sinks anyway

[rare sun]

unfortunately that has no real value in game due to the dup exploit, you should just keep it for now and wait for a fix of some sort

[rare sun]

i took all my lp3+ items off the market so this folks cant keep buying them

but unfortunately everyone whos getting a 3 lp wand for example is going to put them up for 1.5b

thats why closing the market would be best quick fix for now

[junior niche]

what dupe exploit?

[wicked umbra]

they can't fix the market without a significant rollback

[junior niche]

oh damn theres something going in?

[wicked umbra]

closing the market doesn't really address anything, the damage is done

they should've closed it like 20 hrs ago

[rare sun]

true

[junior niche]

What the hell happened?

[peak depot]

@junior niche the extremely short version is people have been (for some time) able to effectively generate gold out of nothing, the technique and script to do so was posted publicly today, MG is kill

[rare sun]

my guy scroll up and read

[crisp swallow]

Mg died

Cycle died

[junior niche]

damn it

I am having a blast playing MG

[wicked umbra]

not anymore you're not!

[turbid herald]

I was definitely curious why i was able to sell some stuff for over 1bil today

[junior niche]

thats why some high end idols are gone in the MG

people are buying em all dont they

[peak depot]

thats why everything is gone my man

[crisp swallow]

Jazz music stops

Right fkn now

[junior niche]

I was wondering why all of a sudden ex 2LP exi is 1B+

[peak depot]

lol the post about the initial post being deleted has been deleted

[junior niche]

lol

[hardy lance]

Nah. CoF is still quite fun.

[junior niche]

well it was fun while it lasted

[tiny spire]

wait ... there is not a single LP2 shackle on the market?

[peak depot]

...yeah we're gonna need a pinned post

[junior niche]

0 4LP armor in MG.. even Kestrel is sold out. wtf

[split wave]

Of course, repost a deleted thing, it gets deleted lol

[turbid herald]

yup, with tons of stuff now selling for 1bil+ and there only being a gold cap for slightly >2bil, if you've had enough sales, basically every purchase is now free since you can stockpile successful auctions

[junior niche]

Is the team even aware of whats happening?

[crisp swallow]

Ill wait what they do before my judgement, but the fix will most likely impact everyone negatively

[split wave]

Yes

[indigo grail]

incase you all dont know...there is a patch. there is no info on what the patch does currently...but there is a patch

[crisp swallow]

Oh ok great 🤣

[fresh plover]

honestly im just curious wth will ehg wil do at this point, and try to find my last items ssf

[split wave]

It's the weekend ofc, holiday for many

[mild forge]

oooooh small patch?

[fresh plover]

do u mean its already out?

[indigo grail]

itty bitty

[split wave]

Ooh, good catch

[indigo grail]

i just DL'd it. it was like, 60mb?

[split wave]

yeah 12 mins ago Steam says

[indigo grail]

idk what it does, or whats in it

but, just putting it out there

[split wave]

22.6mb for me

[daring cloak]

so with 2b gold cap, whatever you cannot claim, the sale listing will NOT expire right?

[turbid herald]

correct. So as soon as you have enough space, you can just claim a previous, unclaimed sale

[fresh plover]

honestly even if they fixed it, game is already borked

[daring cloak]

thanks

[hardy lance]

Nah. CoF is fine.

[iron umbra]

Welcome to COF

[river heart]

Ye

[daring cloak]

cof laughing at us I bet 🙂

[split wave]

yeah, but at least if they were able to stop the exploit, it's a triage for now

[hardy lance]

More like worried about what's gonna happen and if it will impact us.

[iron umbra]

rmt market in China is one Yuan to 1 Billion game gold now.

[crisp swallow]

I know i am. Well not at you but the sadness of it all

[turbid herald]

eh, that's the beauty of the cycle structure. Economy always gets reset to 0 on the regular. Assuming there is an eventual fix (with more content) then the game will be much better off

[hardy lance]

A lot of the solutions proposed by MG players have zero regard for CoF players.

[fresh plover]

lmfao really???

[fresh plover]

highly doubt they will reset gold, due to people playing both cof and mg, but we will see

[iron umbra]

One guy in Chinese chat channel said he bought 15billion

[turbid herald]

no, i mean when the next cycle comes out, you start with nothing. Everything is fresh. Legacy characters may still be borked but fresh cycle shouldn't be in theory

[hardy lance]

If they don't reset gold on accounts with shared or solo MG the prices are here to stay

[iron umbra]

Too bad I can’t send screenshots

[hardy lance]

As long as they don't touch CoF, I don't care what happens to MG or how they fix it

[peak depot]

They could tax it out, fees on listing and buying as a sink

[fresh plover]

ye but who cares abt next cycle that is comin in next 2.5-3 months?

[turbid herald]

<

[iron umbra]

I think they should copy Warefame trading system

[peak depot]

Noooo

No

[iron umbra]

Why not

[peak depot]

Because using a third party site and PMing people all day is awful

[fresh plover]

like we all know itll be fixed issue is that people want to play a normal game now

and tgey cant

[hardy lance]

CoF is fine. The water is warm.

Come on in.

[iron umbra]

Hope this game would go well. I kind of like it

[fresh plover]

i wish, i literally poured in all budget into my last build for the cycle and got all items besides one crucial part cant just leave all of it

[heady surge]

RIP merchants 3/30/2024🙏

[crisp swallow]

🙏

[warm zenith]

🙏

[tiny spire]

🙏

[fresh plover]

🙏

[hardy lance]

F for respect.

[frosty bear]

I guess i had my fun, see u next cycle.

[turbid herald]

that may be the play once we hear from EHG. Not dropping out of MG yet as I feel like i'm finally make progress on my homebrew stormbolt shaman after being behind and stuck in sub 500 corruption for a month. Picking a bad cycle starter was rough

[warm zenith]

itll take another month for the market to restock on stuff thats assuming players even stick around to do so

[iron umbra]

Do you guys know that Chinese and Taiwanese talk trash to each other in Chinese channel?

[fresh plover]

GIGACHAD shaman, are u actually manually using gathering storm?

[iron umbra]

It’s very funny.

[tiny spire]

did they fix the gold dupe with the recent patch?

[fresh plover]

nobody knows

[crisp swallow]

Ofc, they talk trash irl constantly too

[turbid herald]

I'm doing the Tornado storm bolt build that synergizes with cold warcry and maelstrom. Once i realized I needed to scale better off of "on hit" via % chance to cast thorn totem + % cold damage per totem idols, it's picked up a ton

[ionic forum]

whether dup is fixed or not, it's too late, all good items have been bought from MG :/

[cursive pine]

Just made my first 1bn gold! too bad good items are 1.5bn 😄

[nimble goblet]

beings im new, this actually just ruined it for me. Cant even sell items now lol

[turbid herald]

haha, yea. I went from perpetually stuck below 50 mil to gold cap in a day

[tiny spire]

No, good items are sold out, mediocre junkies are 1.5 bn atm

[nimble goblet]

i put my lp3 ring on there for 700 and it still sitting

[warm zenith]

exploit was probly fixed with the patch just now

cant imagine what else they would throw a patch out for

[quaint sandal]

circle of fortune reporting, sipping my koolaid. I heard there was a party here

[warm zenith]

CoF getting nerfed again dw

[quaint sandal]

lol

[fresh plover]

welcome in 👏

we are ssf too now

[warm zenith]

theyre gonna blame the exploit on CoF prophecies

[fresh plover]

jus without cof perks

[delicate notch]

MG always ruining it for COF 🤣

[daring cloak]

🤣

[cursive pine]

My dudes - if you get a 3lp jelkhor's it will instantly sell for 1.5bn - happy hunting. Then you can use that 1.5bn to buy these awesome 25 movement speed boot some aspiring entrepreneur listed 😄

[peak depot]

I have my r10 CoF card in my wallet still, see you at the bar!

[daring cloak]

i'm waiting for them to pop up lol

[crisp swallow]

Welcome sir, you are of extraordinary statute and a verified gentleman

[mild forge]

hahahahahahahahahha

[blazing forum]

i'd like to buy a 1lp red ring or +4 frost claw though... seen 1 today. not able to buy a 2nd no matter how much gold i get :>

[topaz patrol]

yo wth happened with mourningfrost prices

[blazing forum]

wth happened with all prices 😉

[dire pine]

Has anyone from EHG commented on the exploit?

[blazing forum]

not that i know of

[dire pine]

What the hell will they do lol

[topaz patrol]

[split wave]

Not yet, I'm sure they will

[tiny spire]

Question is how long this has been going on. I've noticed that there were extreme market developments over the past 3-4 weeks with price jumps that didn't seem natural in any game economy I've seen before

[split wave]

Seems like it may have started slowly last week, but only blew up within the lasst 24hrs or so

[blazing forum]

i saw prices doubling/tripling in very few areas over the last few days. but yea, 24h sounds about right for the absolute madness

[hardy lance]

Way longer

If you saw the prices of gold in RMT sites, you'd see that it's been going down for a stupid amount of gold

yesterday was a catalyst but it's been going on for way longer

[blazing forum]

never looked at rmt prices

[hardy lance]

I kept hearing about it and got curious so i googled it. I play CoF so it didn't affect me

but, that was one of the reasons that kept me on CoF

[blazing forum]

but would make sense if they already knew before it heavily impacted the ingame econ

[dire pine]

I am interested in how EHG will solve this, If it is even solvable. Rollback? Convert everyone from MG to CoF? Early cycle end?

[hardy lance]

Rolling back is a horrible take.

it's already been discussed here at length and no one wants that solution

[ionic forum]

def not cycle end - that will be catastrophic

[hardy lance]

it's nuclear and it impacts all players including CoF non-shared chars

[dire pine]

There are no easy solutions

[blazing forum]

ban bug abuse accounts, raise gold cap, increase rare/lp drop rate for a bit on MG could work

[hardy lance]

increase rare/lp drop rate for a bit on MG
Whatttt? lol

people benefited from a bugged out economy with silly amounts of gold, let's give them better chances at dropping LPs

sure, that makes sense

people in MG can take all that gold to arbor and do stupid amounts of duplicate chests with uniques and such

[sage dome]

I just got want to know what they plan on doing to fix this because I was enjoying trading. Economy is all out of whack now:

[hardy lance]

and you want to give them increased chances??

That's a hot take

[blazing forum]

some items were just bought up by gold dupe accounts and the market is empty. would not be a good experience to just leave it that way. only other thing i can see working is reset server a few days

[ionic forum]

simply patch it, all good items will start coming back naturally and the MG will fix itself

[hardy lance]

Go to arbor

[blazing forum]

i mean... devs could artificially insert stuff into the market ofc

[outer wind]

It can't fix itself with trillions and trillions of gold inserted into the economy

[blazing forum]

spent 10s of millions there. never saw a red ring with lp or a tier 6+ frostclaw.

[sage dome]

I would role back the characters to before the exploit went public. Fix the exploit of course. And perma ban any IP address that abused it. But that’s just me.

[stray wyvern]

i just dropped lp4 exsanguinous, what can i ask for it? #👑┃item-showcase message

[hardy lance]

Welcome to RNG

[fresh plover]

yep u do realize that people who abused it have billions of gold already and probably billions items in sold, since they cant pick it due to gold cap

[sage dome]

Do not sell it. It’s worth more than you can sell it for.

[tiny spire]

DONT SELL NOW!

[dire pine]

With the insane amount of gold in circulation, I'm not so sure.

[blazing forum]

i know, and i'm fine with it. the idea of MG is that you have to get lucky with something and buy what you want. but thats not on the market any more.

[fresh plover]

there is no point not selling it, now or later 4lp exhang is sold for the gold cap which is 1.5 billion

like u cant sell it for more than that

[hardy lance]

Right, but making CoF players pay (Reset), or even boosting MG players drop rates seems like a silly idea. Unless you're boosting drop rates for everyone - but that also seems like a hot take

Either way

i'm curious, and dreading, the solution that EHG will come up with

[blazing forum]

i'm curious if they come up with something better. and sure, no issue with temp CoF increase as well for balance

or even permanent for that matter xD

just not even more runes of creation i guess

[tiny spire]

but it's worth more than you can currently get if you compare it with the other prices ... lp3 already costs 1b

[fresh plover]

yep and how are u gonna sell it? make a forum post and use 3rd party as a middle man to sell it for more than 1.5 bil

[ionic forum]

blizzard fixed their gold dup in d4 S1 and the market recovered (not sure what they did with all the fake gold)... does anyone know?

[fresh plover]

there is no other way to sell it for more than 1.5 bil

[blazing forum]

direct trade for gold and an item you want?

[daring cloak]

i think by tomorrow, all the exalts we want will be 1.5b each

[tiny spire]

This. Damage has been done and I highly doubt they can revert it or somehow fix the economy as a whole. All we can hope for is a huge ban wave and a 100% loophole closure for the next season

[fresh plover]

that requires a middle man and forum post , same as i said

if u wanna deal with that sure

[blazing forum]

what do you need? i'm tempted 😉

[tiny spire]

i can already see gold dupers sitting in the MG waiting for the LP4 post

[fresh plover]

😏

i would hold it untill monday just in case EHG decided to do something insane

but after monday if they wont fix current situation its eh

[tiny spire]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-gunslinger-six-shooter-gun-flip-flip-gun-into-holster-gif-12524647873518510513

[hardy lance]

This is the reason I think a gold reset for MG players might come

at least those with a certain amount

but it's not a clean solution either since you could dump the gold into arbor

the good thing is that since the market is already wiped clean, the people sitting with that kind of gold in their accounts are kinda stuck with it

[blazing forum]

true

[hardy lance]

they can't resell any of the items they bought

so there's also that

[tiny spire]

kekw

the lp4 just sold for 1b i sadly dont have the gold

[fresh plover]

dont think thats even possible the max u can gamaba for in arbor is like 10-15mil per run iirc

will take a while

[visual cedar]

What happened in last 24 hours with gold? Seeing lot of posts about economy being RIP

[fresh plover]

dupers bought out all valueable items

[quartz perch]

I hate these dupers and h
Cheaters. I legit made roughly 3B without any hacks, dupes or anything and now all my Gold is worthless and i cant buy stuff for alts

[crisp swallow]

Sad day for a smegmasoldier

[dapper bear]

How do you think you made 3 billion? It all trickles down to legit players when cheaters buy stuff. Literally no way you'd make 3 billion if it wasnt for RMT'ers and dupers

[fresh plover]

u can easily make billion per couple of days from arbor gamba and drops

[quartz perch]

Most of my sales were in the 10M range wich is competly legit
Sold nearly 1k itemy

[fresh plover]

i was making 200mil per day

and i wasnt even tryharding

[dapper bear]

Yeah because of RMT'ers and dupers. Otherwise there wouldnt be that much gold in circulation

[fresh plover]

that is hard to estimate because imo even with normal infaltion u could still gamble like crazy in arbor, but now its all on steroids

[fluid carbon]

All hail bots I geared my char in 1 day

[ionic forum]

and how do they get the MG favor to buy everything?

[fluid carbon]

How do you think they got billions? duh?

[quartz perch]

Its not Hard to make favor when playing high corruption

[fresh plover]

its not just 1 person. probaly hundreds who absued the bug when it was made public

[ionic forum]

duh yourself, is there a favor dup?

[dapper bear]

Sadly its been on steroids since week 1. Bought full bis for my alt for like 10 million week 1. After that prices multiplied by 20+ each week

[fluid carbon]

Ofcourse you farm it, wdf is wrong with ur brain?

[dapper bear]

Only today people are facing facts due to the gold dupe being made public. Its been happening since release

[dapper bear]

Dont bother. They are either too dumb, trolling, or simping to the devs

[fresh plover]

ya i was telling people since 1st week when i saw gold sellers with 5.5 bil gold when the most tryhard cor pushers had 200 mil tops

[ionic forum]

you can't farm that amount of favor in 24h since the market went bonkers... costs almost 20K favor to buy an LP item... so yeah shame on all the people who abused the public gold dup

[fluid carbon]

I mean when 1.1 comes out hopefully they fix it so really 1.0 became an open beta testing ground

[fresh plover]

its not just 1 person, we had like 4 pages of twisted hearts with 2 lp, 100 people can easily buy that out

[delicate notch]

what was the patch for?

[fresh plover]

without any favor farm

[fluid carbon]

Thanks for reminding me that was my original intent on why i logged in on discord.. To find out whats that patch for

[fresh plover]

they didnt say, ninja patch

[dapper bear]

What makes you think they had to start from scratch on MG today? They've always been MG since most dupers have been selling gold

Must be hard to survive irl for some people...

[ionic forum]

because all the good items have been bought out in the last 24h, or that's what I've been reading here anyway

[dapper bear]

Duping has been an issue since release. Just not been this much focus on it since the devs have deleted everything about it here and reddit trying to hide the fact

[ionic forum]

but the duping method went public in the last day right

[mild forge]

yeah the major problem is that the dupe was used by gold sellers to sell gold, when it was made public people went 360oogabooga and bought everything and we ended up where we are now

[sturdy spindle]

i sold 2 items for 1.5 bn each but i cant get the gold for the second one. any ideea why?

[mild forge]

you're at gold cap? 😛

[dapper bear]

This dude gets it, congratz on the above average IQ

[fresh plover]

gold cap in invetnory

[sturdy spindle]

what can i do?

[fluid carbon]

Oh wait so dupers happened last night?

[mild forge]

spend gold?

[fresh plover]

nohing

[dapper bear]

Spend gold

[hollow imp]

you can just let it sit until you need it

[sturdy spindle]

i could juat give 1 bilion away to my friends ..i guess

[mild forge]

the overuse of the dupe yes, I guess the gold sellers were regulating it cause the situation as it is right now cant be profitable to them 100%

[fluid carbon]

ahh no wonder the price of the gold went down yesterday

people been selling 4b for 40usd

[mild forge]

now we are at a point that there's just pure chaos. there are 0 good items, mediocre items are sold for goldcaps, and there's 0 value in gold whatsoever

[fluid carbon]

welp maybe that was the patch?

[tiny spire]

i saw 2b for 4$ a few hours ago

[fluid carbon]

2b

for 4$?

[tiny spire]

yep...

[spiral hawk]

whats happening to Auction house? 😦 i cant get my stuff

[fluid carbon]

that sounds scummy

[tiny spire]

🤷‍♂️

i mean just look at the AH ... could be real

[delicate notch]

im at 1.9B rn. i wont be selling anything due to the gold cap

darn please fix this

[hardy lance]

People here got damn near infinite gold because of the bug and they're crying? wth is going on

lol

[fluid carbon]

ohhh damn all 2LP prismatics are gone

[delicate notch]

what u mean. u can literally only buy 1 good item even at gold cap lol

[hardy lance]

Arbor

[mild forge]

damn near infinite gold doesnt matter if there's 0 items to buy innit?

[hardy lance]

Arbor

[delicate notch]

since everything is priced at 1.5B

[fluid carbon]

whats the gold cap?

[delicate notch]

a little over 2B

[fluid carbon]

eh

[mild forge]

might as well go CoF

[hardy lance]

Sure -- that way you won't have to complain about having infinite gold

boooo hooo

wth lol

[delicate notch]

basically u trade 1 good item with another since everything is 1.5B

[mild forge]

thank you for your valuable input

[fluid carbon]

I dont even see any good items now

all 2lps are gone

[hardy lance]

Thank you for yours

[delicate notch]

u will have to settle with 1 lp and snipe your t6

[hardy lance]

Benefitting from gold dupers and then complaining is a bold move

[delicate notch]

no one is benefitting lol

[fluid carbon]

good thing i slotted mine last thursday lol

[delicate notch]

they literally wiped out the market with good items

[hardy lance]

And left everyone with billions of gold

[desert venture]

I think that's the issue - all transactions are suspect so it feels bad regardless of whether you're profiting from legit buyers or fake ones

[hardy lance]

as a cof player, I will NEVER see that kind of gold

[delicate notch]

we dont have anything good to spend it on lol

[mild forge]

whining about mg and acting all high and mighty while you're not even using mg is even bolder

[fluid carbon]

devotion 2lp is 750m hahahahahahaha

[mild forge]

no one cares

[turbid herald]

Just having a massive injection of gold means regardless, you're likely profiting off of less scrupulous individuals

[hardy lance]

You could do arbor runs

[desert venture]

Yeah, and it feels bad, like playing a meaningless system

[delicate notch]

that's not why i went MG. iwent MG to buy stuff i need

[hardy lance]

it's the same gold sink we have in CoF

[distant fable]

Can some1 help me with gold please? I want to buy some 1lp items just to grind...i dont know how to use this gold dupe method....im online atm in game.

IGN: GAMBLERR

Thanks alot.

[delicate notch]

so it's basically ruined lol

[desert venture]

It's affecting all MG players and I can't imagine starting the game right now as MG

[fluid carbon]

well we can still get some good t6s right? right?

[delicate notch]

if i want to gamble at arbor. i should have went to COF

[fluid carbon]

you wanna learn how to gold dupe?

[hardy lance]

Well, you went MG and now this is where it's at

[delicate notch]

i maxed out 5 characters already lol. i say its worth it. why are u even here

[hardy lance]

you can play with your thumbs until a fix is put out, or you can use your illgotten gold into something to play the game

[solar oracle]

kekw

[distant fable]

i prefer just to ask for gold smarter people than me, to buy some gear lp1 for can play new class... , if all my gold farmed in 250 hours are worthless now... @solar oracle @fluid carbon

[mild forge]

@hardy lance is just here for the drama, dont mind him

want some popcorn?

[fluid carbon]

go switch cof

[grand fox]

im just trying to figure out why you felt the need to come in and be toxic? daemon.

[turbid herald]

I'd love to switch back to CoF but considering 14 pieces of gear on my main require MG, looks like I'm stuck

[hardy lance]

🍿

got some already

[delicate notch]

get a good filter for expensive item. if it luckily drops, u can get 1.5b. sadly u can only 1 good item from it lol

[distant fable]

u are not worried about rollback guys?

[solar oracle]

not at all

[fluid carbon]

Daemon i know you buddy we were chatting last time.. But it looks like you're mad cuz u switch to MG and now you cant buy items.. Chill buddy

[tiny spire]

i dont think they will rollback

[delicate notch]

nope. if it happens, it might affect innocent COF players.

[hardy lance]

I've been watching this channel since this AM, and some hot takes i've seen:

• Roll back all players (Because the MG is empty)
• End the cycle
• Many more

That's why i'm here. Hoping, praying, the devs don't listen to these insane takes that would impact the other 50% of players that had nothing to do with MG

[fluid carbon]

I mean i agree to some of this.. Ending the cycle and rollbacks is just plain s2pid when its their fault in the first place

[distant fable]

Ye and what about people farm gold for 300 hours lkegal, and its worth 1minute of farming now @hardy lance

what with this people?

300 hours gone to toailet?

[hardy lance]

So you want to make CoF players pay, because your MG is busted right now?

hot takes left and right

[delicate notch]

i agree. what about legit MG players as well.

[distant fable]

i have f3aking 20 milion gold bro

was listing exalted items like 20 hours in total in merchant

its all pointless

wasted time

and people now who have 1000 bilions gold on account

even dont want to share, help for another

great community

[grand fox]

you do know most likely it will be a complete server roll back

[hardy lance]

If you didn't benefit from the gold duping, hopefully EHG fixes it in a way that you won't be impacted

but i'm not sitting here hoping that all players get nuked like you seem to be

[distant fable]

its impossible to fix it

this duping its weeks out already

rollback for 2 - 3weeks?

LOL

[fluid carbon]

And that will enrage other players who farmed legally

[hardy lance]

And all of CoF which is 50% of the player base

so it's unlikely

[grand fox]

whys it matter for cof? just go kill 1 boss and get 50 drops again.

[hardy lance]

Because RNG isn't guaranteed.

[fluid carbon]

b0rgie have u ever played cof?

[hardy lance]

freaking hot takes man.

[full forum]

way more than that

[fluid carbon]

if u dont know how cof works just tone down your responses

[distant fable]

Looking for online friend who can give me 2 bilion gold, i can share pictures of my sister.

PM

good?

[opal thistle]

I don't see them implementing a rollback / change / fix that directly negatively impacts people who didn't abuse the exploit

[hardy lance]

@mild forge tracking these insane comments is why i'm here.

[distant fable]

@opal thistle people duping gold already like 3 weekjs, u understand?

rollback for 3 weeks?

or how?

[hardy lance]

https://giphy.com/gifs/steve-carell-disgusted-10FHR5A4cXqVrO

[fluid carbon]

CoF relies on your RNG alone so rollbacking their "RNG" loots will enrage more than 50% of the playerbase

If they decided to do that, I can see 1.0 endring right there

[hardy lance]

Yep. in the last few days i was able to farm some ladles, blood of the exile, etc. All CoF. I don't play any alts with MG, or have any MG connections at all

but the hot takes here say, screw that, and other players like that

[mild forge]

oh I gave up bro, watching 3body problem atm

[hardy lance]

fun times.

[distant fable]

i want rollback for 25 days back

please upvote me

[hardy lance]

I hear it's a good show, and the books even better

[distant fable]

rollback for 4 weeks back please for merchant

[mild forge]

slow start, GETS REALLY BONKERS

[delicate notch]

ton's of legit players already god the gold so yeah, since they are pumping the economy with it.

imagine an innocent player that will just sell their item and see that the cheapest price of their stuff is 1.5b. ofc they will sell it for that as well.

[distant fable]

and rollback the gold sellers wallets IRL

[full forum]

some CoF players are pretty obsessed with MG

yall are weird

[mild forge]

rule of thumb, dont feed the troll 😛

[hardy lance]

I just want to make sure I'm not impacted by the shennanigans you guys are up to

[full forum]

CoF players have the biggest chip on their shoulder

when it come to MG

[mild forge]

I hope you get more impacted from our shenannigans than the dinosaurs did when the meteorite hit

[peak depot]

it's just conversation, nobody here can actually decide what EHG do you know

[hardy lance]

Nope. In fact, I thought about switching to MG multiple times

[fluid carbon]

Atp you might just want to experiment an unknown build hahaha.. All meta items are 1.5b yikes

[hardy lance]

but i saw prices go up and up so i stayed in CoF

i have nothing against one playstyle or other other

[fluid carbon]

daaaaamn you live up to your name brother

[opal thistle]

Understood, but I don't see them punishing folks who indirectly benefited from the exploit. I don't see an easy solution to adjust to inflation either, but rolling back or punishing players who didn't exploit it's a viable solution IMO

[mild forge]

clearly, now go away and let the mg boys mald in peace

[hardy lance]

Nah, i'm gonna stick around

[full forum]

take the people who traded who were in negative gold, and the person they traded to put them there. delete their chars this season.

[delicate notch]

i just want them banned. i thought they just found an exploit on the game itself, i mean they did but they were using programs to get the negative value

[hardy lance]

That's not how it works

it's an overflow in memory, the value never actually goes negative in the server

[opal thistle]

integer overflow / underflow are tales as old as computing

[full forum]

either way, if they have a way to pinpoint accounts involved in such activity, than they should action those accounts.
if they don't have the means to do that, then they dont have the means to protect their own game economy from exploiters and should consider that for future seasons

[earnest ether]

did the devs post anything about gold duping? what's their stance

[hardy lance]

If they track history, they can see when after a trade, someone's gold went from normal to the int max

[fluid carbon]

its weekend brother

no one works on a weekend

[peak depot]

they have already released a patch this evening

[opal thistle]

No statement yet, but I would imagine they would take action against accounts that exploit

[earnest ether]

okay, thanks

[fluid carbon]

idk wahts that about 1.0.5.2

[peak depot]

I'm not sure what that sentence means, but there was a patch (no notes) a few hours ago.

My assumption would be they have fixed the ability to create any more gold, but thats entirely a guess

Just to say, it being a weekend doesnt mean they can't or won't work on it

[fluid carbon]

Yeah i was looking for it seems like a premed update so im not sure if it tackles the gold dupes

[hollow dove]

is something going on with MG?

im out of the loop

[crisp swallow]

yes

its borked

[hollow dove]

wat happened

[crisp swallow]

gold dupe made public last night

everything of any value bought

and bad items list for 1.5

b

[digital field]

Any updates from any of the devs

[hollow dove]

my zimbabwe dollars nooooooo

[distant fable]

Can i ask some1 for bilion or 2 b gold pelase? want to buy some 1lp items for my sorc.

IGN: GAMBLERR online now, thanks friends

[hollow dove]

is it known how to dupe gold or is it just a thing one person did

[leaden wharf]

it is known

well, if you find the thread lol

it was posted on reddit but mods deleted it already

[delicate notch]

multiple players already know it.
that's why the market got wiped

[hollow dove]

dang kinda wish i knew how to do it before it got known i coulda sat on a ton of money and just like bought 1 or 2 nice things

[crisp swallow]

lmao

you know most people probably thought the same thing

and here we are

[hardy lance]

[delicate notch]

the 1.5B sell limit and the 2B inventory gold cap kinda saves the MG a bit. without those imagine the prices

[crisp swallow]

plus

[leaden wharf]

not worth it, they will most likely rewind to an earlier date

[crisp swallow]

you get greedy

[leaden wharf]

so you would lose everything

[crisp swallow]

i mean 20m items sell for 1b+ now

[leaden wharf]

if not, many people will leave

[crisp swallow]

theres no saving here

[fluid carbon]

And you think rollbacking it will make people stay?

[leaden wharf]

yeah, better than a fked economy for the next 2 mounths

[fluid carbon]

Ohyeah?

[leaden wharf]

it is just a day or two lmao

[hardy lance]

yeah nahhhh

[crisp swallow]

this exploit has been used since launch my man

[hardy lance]

unless they limit the impact to MG only

[hollow dove]

i haven't been playing for a bit im not sure what the right answer is on the one hand obvious reasons but on the other what if you didn't do anything wrong and got a really lucky hard ot get drop that would feel awful

[fluid carbon]

Wdym a day or two when gold dupe has been present since day 1

[hardy lance]

people forget that MG is not the only people playing

[leaden wharf]

they can roll back so the market is in the right shape (yesterday) and ban the bug abbusers lmao

[delicate notch]

yeah it's ruined. but imagine how more ruined it is without those limits

[tiny spire]

i think dont think they rollback, more people would leave cause of that

[leaden wharf]

and boom, no more gold

[crisp swallow]

market is not in right shape yesterday lmao

the whole thing has been warped from the start

[leaden wharf]

no lmao

at this point, there is no reason for the mg to stay

so at least 50% of the players will leave

[hardy lance]

@leaden wharf ask in #⭕┃circle-of-fortune how people there would feel about a 2 day rollback

glad you're not a dev for this game

[delicate notch]

this dupe kinda explains why the 2lp ocearon rings suddenly disappeard last week. i was confused

[tiny spire]

same for cof players that would lose progress

[leaden wharf]

then what you advise? to kill 50% of the game for the next 2 mounth untill next cicle?

[solid otter]

they can just fix cycle 2 at this point

[crisp swallow]

yeah, call it gg, admit defeat to chinese gold farmers and fix the game for next cycle

[hardy lance]

Your advice is doing the same thing. Costing 50% of players days or weeks of progress to fix the MG at the expense of CoF.

again, ask what they think

[solid otter]

CoF is right there if you want farmable uprades

[tiny spire]

imo best what they can do is new cycle asap

[fluid carbon]

THey can rollback the AH only

[solid otter]

and not everything is crazy high, only the gg items right

[hardy lance]

If they could roll back the AH only, sure

[tiny spire]

do they?

[crisp swallow]

what about all the people who bought stuff from ah legit

[distant fable]

in inventory u have gold...

[crisp swallow]

they sure dont feel good about rollback

[leaden wharf]

not that many will leave lmao. 2 days agains 2 mounths

[hollow dove]

man that sucks i was making progress on my runemaster and they're probably gonna nerf frostclaw runemaster in cycle 2 😦

[distant fable]

can i ask some1 for 1b gold pleasE?

GAMBLERR

im poor like homeless

[crisp swallow]

lmao

[leaden ermine]

My mains Cof and I've farmed last 2 weeks for nothing. They can roll it back to the start for all I care. 😇

[distant fable]

they are enjoying christmas

[hollow dove]

ye i switched cuz farming in CoF honestly didn't feel all that great

[distant fable]

they dont even know they must fix the problem

[solid otter]

rank 10 cof prints whatever you want

[hollow dove]

i hit rank 10 didn't feel that way

[crisp swallow]

ehh, not quite 😄

[fluid carbon]

I just fkin slammed my 1LP Prismatic Gaze and 1LP Twisted heart.. If that gets affected by rollback, I swear EHG will see all the curse words i know

[crisp swallow]

minmaxing with cof is pain

[solid otter]

i have rank 10 on both, i know

but also hc market is different i guess

[hardy lance]

Then how about the MG stays that way? Not many will leave. Y'all can switch to CoF. "lmao".

[hollow dove]

the amount of item rarity also doesn't really feel all that effective. like it might as well say 1 million percent increased item rarity for all the good it does

[leaden wharf]

you litteraly have no arguments lmao. calm down cof player

[hardy lance]

Your arguments and proposed "fixes" are garbage

[tiny spire]

and if there is a rollback they need to act now ! and not just in a few days ... there is not even a statement from the devs yet

[fluid carbon]

If they can rollback only the AH portion I agree rollback can fix this

[leaden wharf]

why? cuz you dont like it?

[fluid carbon]

but if the rollback affects everything that happened in the last day or two then thats just shtty

[leaden wharf]

yeah, this is thrash, but no rollback will make it worse

[distant fable]

@fluid carbon they cant, its impossible

[humble burrow]

Oh ye imma just swap to cof and lose 200h of progress 5head

[hardy lance]

Cause it shows how selfish you're being by ignoring 50% of the base that doesn't include you.

[fleet kestrel]

What happened to MG where everyone is freaking out? CoF so I've had my head in the sand

[solid otter]

you dont lose progress when switching, only current favor

but also just do it on an alt

[humble burrow]

Mg is unplayable gold dupes etc.

[hollow dove]

well you lose your gear

[hardy lance]

If there's a fix that doesn't impact CoF and fixes it for MG, i'm all for it

[hollow dove]

cuz you can't use it anymore

[solid otter]

just play an alt in cof

[humble burrow]

I can’t use my gear that I made with buying from mg lol

[solid otter]

its good to do it anyway so you can print glyphs/runes

[fleet kestrel]

Ah word word. Did the dupe become public info in the past day or two? I hadn't seen anything prior

[leaden wharf]

it is just 2 days, chill out. most players in arpg replay this game every cycle, the problem is that mg will be unplayable till cycle 2

[hardy lance]

but a fix that screws over CoF is not a real fix and will make all the CoF players angry

[hardy lance]

In the last 2 days, I've gotten quite a bit of LP3 drops that took me days to farm

[leaden wharf]

yes, on reddit

[fleet kestrel]

Gotcha

[hardy lance]

COF is that way. Others are the same.

RNG is RNG.

[leaden wharf]

unlucky

[hardy lance]

a 2 or 3 day rollback is a huge impact.

[fleet kestrel]

Dw man they aren't going to roll back anything

[hardy lance]

nah, you're unlucky

[leaden wharf]

rng is rng, you could have gotten it 3 days ago

[humble burrow]

I mean idk exactly but none the less when sellers sell 2b for like 4€ or whatever.e then u can bet people buy

[crisp swallow]

first on chinese forums, then forums and then reddit

[distant fable]

Guys, after circle finish, items from cof going for LEGACY COF, or for LEGACY SHARE. After cycle end, all items from merchant + circle will be combine in 1 stash on legacy?

[hardy lance]

You're proposing an impact to players like me, because of your MG issues

that's not unlucky, you're just being an AH

[hollow dove]

like that guy who got the 1 LP slam on a rare unique imagine because of the actions of someone else the game just goes lol not anymore

[leaden wharf]

you are an ah if you think 50% of players should suffer for the next 2 mounths lol

[hollow dove]

or imagine you finally got a plus 4 frost claw relic to drop from soulfire gambler

i would quit

[hardy lance]

Ask in #⭕┃circle-of-fortune -- 50% of players are CoF

[rare sun]

Is anyone also getting an update on steam?

[hardy lance]

you want to spread your crap luck to those 50% that had nothing to do with this

[rare sun]

Wheres the patch notes for it?? Or what it is?

[hardy lance]

no patch notes @rare sun

[tiny spire]

maybe the exploit got fixed?

but still no statement from the devs yet... sadly

[rare sun]

I would hope so

[hardy lance]

🤷‍♂️

[humble burrow]

Too late

Damage is done

[dim rune]

holyfk no wonder everything start costing a leg or two since several days ago.

[rare sun]

True

[solid otter]

hc merchants guild seems unaffected, red ring is only 10-20m

[distant fable]

exploit got fixed ? how u fix people who have 20bilion gold on 10 characters, u just let them keep it?

LOOOOOOOOOL

[dapper bear]

Its a lose-lose no matter what the devs decide to do

50% is cof, 50% is mg

[solid otter]

lp3 exsanguinous 5m

[dapper bear]

50% gets their game ruined until reset no matter how you look at it

[hardy lance]

No CoF players are saying that they should leave the market as is -- ideally, it gets fixed

we just don't want an impact from the fix

like a rollback would do

[dapper bear]

Which is why im saying 50% will have their game ruined no matter what they do

If they do nothing all MG players are f-ed

[tiny spire]

i have also seen posts about the damage in the MG being deleted in reddit, feels like devs trying to hide it

[dapper bear]

Devs have been hiding it since release

[crisp swallow]

the gold sellers dont know how to play / dont want to risk hc 😄

its simple really

[hardy lance]

I mean...there's no hiding this

[dapper bear]

I've made posts about it on reddit since week 1

Nuked every single time I've mentioned dupes being a thing

[rare sun]

I have 2.05b and it was all legit until i got my 4lp peak of the mountain sold for 1.5b

[tiny spire]

i guess its time for HC ...

[hardy lance]

2.05b legit... hmmm 🤔

[distant fable]

@dapper bear +1. I was sure there is duping.

[dapper bear]

Its legit to you, but due to gold trickling down from cheaters its not legit

[hardy lance]

i mean, there's been dupe bugs for a long long time

yep

[distant fable]

ye 2.05b legit, if dupers paying 1b goild for items

[hardy lance]

what @dapper bear said

[distant fable]

just dumb people think they farm it on 3k corruption

i laugh af

[dapper bear]

haha yeah exactly

[rare sun]

I only sold a 4lp peak for 1.5b and 4lp amulet for 600 mill

[tiny spire]

thats why i said try ... but obviously they cant hide it anymore xD

[dapper bear]

People think the amount of inflation that has been in the game since week 1 is "legit"

[rare sun]

The items were legit at least

[hardy lance]

Where do you think someone had 1.5b to buy stuff with

[dapper bear]

This

[tiny spire]

I wouldn't sell it for 10b tbh

[tiny spire]

this ^

the inflation was since start already fishy

[dapper bear]

For some reason people have a hard time wrapping their head around simple economics

[tiny spire]

and now was the big bang

[distant fable]

yep i remember 3lp items was 20m, and after 2 days from that, for 140m

sounds legit

[rare sun]

I know, what im saying is that i got the drops and they were legit, prob they bought it with “fake”gold

[hardy lance]

@dapper bear gamers getting a lesson on quantitative easing

😂

[hardy lance]

This is accurate

[dapper bear]

I've tried to explain it to people on reddit so many times

Downvoted or nuked every single time

[distant fable]

yep

[dapper bear]

At least now theres no hiding it

[distant fable]

its similar to covid situation @dapper bear , people are just 95%+ dumb

cant think

[dapper bear]

Yeah its scary

[distant fable]

and make own logical conclusions

[hollow dove]

today i randomly loaded up POE and i haven't looked at anything last epoch for a week till now. it was because I loaded POE it's all my fault 😔

[dapper bear]

https://tenor.com/view/get-him-south-park-its-christmas-in-canada-s7e15-seize-him-gif-22110406

[agile pawn]

better game anyway innit

[hollow dove]

i unno i kinda don't like how they handle skills

[glass stone]

so im new here and wanted to sell a snowblind with 2LP but the range people are listing is crazy. how much is that actually worth?

[dapper bear]

Forget about it for now. A gold dupe was made public today so MG is f-ed for the foreseeable future

[glass stone]

ok then. i guess ill just hold onto it haha thanks

[tiny spire]

ye better dont sell any rare items right now

gold is nothing worth at all rn

[distant fable]

the worst is

devs dont give any news

its so dumb

they are hiding

when was launch and servers was bad they puit news every 30minuts

[fleet kestrel]

It's a holiday weekend

[distant fable]

now 0 news from yesterday

and ?

i have holiday weekend as well

they should sell offline game not online

[fleet kestrel]

So you're not working it?

[distant fable]

and charge 2$ for a game

so make proper offline game

not online and charge 35$

[fleet kestrel]

Lol

I see

[distant fable]

what u see?

[fleet kestrel]

Don't worry about it

[crisp swallow]

its weekend, its also easter. chill

[distant fable]

disagree 100% with u

[fleet kestrel]

Dudes having a normal one lmao

[distant fable]

u have in new year/christmas IRL people work

[fleet kestrel]

I'd just let him rant

[distant fable]

there should be working people as well

rant?

u have people working in christmas and new year IRL in many kind of jobs

u dont know that?

police/emergency stop working because its CHRISTMAS?

[fresh plover]

at least we know its fixed now, judd confirmed 1h ago https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1brmeei/comment/kxao8h1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[crisp swallow]

and? not everyone will be working

[distant fable]

if u have heart attack IRL =- just wait we have a christmas

LOL

[crisp swallow]

bro lmao

ur so out of touch

[delicate notch]

dude it's a video game company. not emergency services

[crisp swallow]

these are not essential workers

or government agencies

[delicate notch]

so they are in vaction on holidays

chill/ it's a game

[agile pawn]

this guy was texting in the tsm server saying they should shoot the devs in the head btw

so maybe take him w a grain of salt

[fleet kestrel]

Probably just ban him if they're doing that lmao

[hardy lance]

Yep, just saw that... dude is insane.

[delicate notch]

i would honestly just let him rant but comparing them to emergency services is absurd lol

[fleet kestrel]

It's kinda funny until you remember this person can probably drive

[crisp swallow]

hes either a kid or completely out of touch lmao

[fleet kestrel]

Or vote

[agile pawn]

@fleet kestrel he’s a minor

[distant fable]

lol, what about gold of people who have 900 bilions in alt characters?

[agile pawn]

let’s be frank

[distant fable]

its fixed?

[delicate notch]

who is?

[fleet kestrel]

Nah some people are broken and are just like this

[hardy lance]

@distant fable

[distant fable]

u guys are just psycho-fans u are the ones who was saying there is no dupe bugs, and they farm that gold on 3k corruption

so...cry me a river

[fleet kestrel]

Anyway good luck mg players I hope it works out for you

[distant fable]

your opinion is worth 0.00001$

compare to mine

[fleet kestrel]

You're always welcome in cof land 🙂

[hardy lance]

lol

[agile pawn]

i’m also upset i just don’t think we should be wishing the devs harm that’s all 🙂

[crisp swallow]

we all aknowledge the exploit

[fresh plover]

i wonder if EHG will even will do anuthing abt it, doubt so

[distant fable]

@fresh plover

[fresh plover]

and i cant think of any reasonable response to current situation

[distant fable]

they have christkmas, they eating chicken

they dont have2

chicken is more important bro

[crisp swallow]

they have a life unlike you lmao

its a game

go touch grass

[fleet kestrel]

Bro go see your family lmao

[distant fable]

game=time from IRL

my IRL TIME=valuable

u cant understand logic

[agile pawn]

kek

[distant fable]

right?>

u know human live shorter than elephants?

[fresh plover]

they cant roll back anyways, the most they can do it trackdown dupers and ban all of them since they have logs of transactions

[hardy lance]

Right now you're wasting your time here

lol

[distant fable]

u know we have limited time on earth?

[agile pawn]

this would be funny if this child wasn’t so delusional

[distant fable]

or u think u will live 3030424324423 years?

check facts in google

[hardy lance]

It's a poor troll

[distant fable]

elephants , turtles average live longer than humans

u are a kid

[agile pawn]

good thing he has easter off school innit

lad better do his homework though

[fleet kestrel]

Average xqc viewer

[distant fable]

u are one of the devs guys?

why u are protecting so much devs?

they dostreyed completlly a game

[agile pawn]

no im just making fun of you really

it’s a good time

[crisp swallow]

moooom the devs dont fix my favourite game when i tell them to imagine THEY EAT CHICKEN! even police and amberlamps WORK ON HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS

[dapper bear]

lmao some people

[median girder]

my friend just go back to roblox

[distant fable]

ye, if u have 200000b gold and u bought car from selling gold on sites sure @agile pawn

[fleet kestrel]

Bro thinks gold farmers make enough to buy a car lmaoooo

[distant fable]

ofc they do

if u think diffrent u are delussional

u could buy a house for like 80k euro easy in east europe in 1 month

from selling duped gold

i was checking the sites

on my area

and how many people are buying it

[median girder]

didnt you guys know, elon musk made his fortune selling LE gold?

[sacred nebula]

i just sold my first item 5% health 23 health idol for 9 million 🙂

[distant fable]

ye ye typical cassuals

say that to people from rmah/ah from d3 when lauchned

publicated profit over 140k $ , 1 of the guys

[fleet kestrel]

Venezuelans are becoming insanely wealthy with this exploit

[distant fable]

running a bots

[dapper bear]

The people behind it make bank just fyi

[agile pawn]

i bought my first computer with d3 rmah and wow boosting gold!

[blazing forum]

guess you could've gotten way more

[agile pawn]

good times

[fleet kestrel]

Rmah was pretty great for quick cash

[median girder]

Venezuela the new Dubai frfr

[fleet kestrel]

Idk man I've seen the working conditions lol

[agile pawn]

better than any highschool job lemme tell you that

[sacred nebula]

i posted it last night.. after skimming thru the messsages now i think your right lol

[delicate notch]

Oh. I never actually used the block feature in discord.. until now 👌

[distant fable]

@dapper bear u are 1 of the smart guys there, its very rare.

[sacred nebula]

oh well, atleast i can buy stash tabs again now lol

[blazing forum]

there also is a report feature

[agile pawn]

i’m not sure the feeling is reciprocated

[distant fable]

People in this discord think if u playing a video game u are a looser and u need to touch a grass.

[hardy lance]

Yeah, i reported the message he posted about shooting devs in the head

[distant fable]

how hypocritall is that?

[fleet kestrel]

just one blade of grass

[dapper bear]

It means so much more coming from you and not anyone else in here

kek

[fleet kestrel]

lmaoooooooooo

[agile pawn]

it’s like when my mom says i look good

[crisp swallow]

your takes are so garbage its rare

[dapper bear]

My special little boy

[agile pawn]

i can hear marge’s voice saying that

[dapper bear]

Seriously though, you're right about a lot of what you say @distant fable

Just reel in the crazy a bit

[distant fable]

my takes are in top1%, my iq is over 140, was invited by MENSA, but i refused. I prefer to farm gold on high corruption in LE.

[agile pawn]

this is a great bit

[dapper bear]

Like I said, reel in the crazy a bit lol

[next crypt]

When you put something up for sale, is it up for sale when you are online only? or does it sell when you are not logged in as well?

[distant fable]

it was ironic but ye

[hardy lance]

Andy tate is that you?

[dapper bear]

Online as long as the servers up

[next crypt]

Thank you!

[blazing forum]

works offline

[distant fable]

they posted some hided answer on reddit hotfixed it

its a shamefull

where is huge annocument?

on front side?

site*

[dapper bear]

Prob not saying anything because they have no intention of removing the gold in circulation because of the dupe

[delicate notch]

Peace and quiet 👌

[agile pawn]

no way to remove it

[distant fable]

so its fair u think guys?

[agile pawn]

game’s cooked

[distant fable]

it should be like that?

[dapper bear]

Always a way to remove if they had the balls to do so

[distant fable]

balls? they dont have 6 pack bro even, they are overveight.

[split wave]

Fix was top priority of course. Announcements can be made later.

[distant fable]

i saw the yt podcasts

more muscles,. leaner u are = more testosterone on 10-15% bf

[delicate notch]

So did anyone figure out what's on the small patch earlier?

[distant fable]

=more balls

[dapper bear]

But the easy solution would anger a lot of people that are innocent, while the harder one would require a lot of effort from the devs

[grim sentinel]

I'm going to start a gofundme for you so that you may check yourself into somewhere that you can seek help.

[unkempt berry]

I did all 3 dungeons, why am i still having to do chapter 5 , 6 and 7 ect ?

[agile pawn]

the brain of this man is mesmerizing

[dapper bear]

He has to be trolling tbh

[hardy lance]

It's very smooth indeed

[distant fable]

@dapper bear what u think about rollback to 1st day of the league?

[agile pawn]

the trash english only makes it better

[peak depot]

Oh its the guy saying people should be executed for this exploit in TSM

[dapper bear]

Or on a massive bender

[agile pawn]

i think it’s just a kid personally

[grim sentinel]

That or hes on bathsalts

[dapper bear]

Not a chance

[distant fable]

but is most fair solution no?

[agile pawn]

i’ve had eastern european kids tell me to get shot for as long as i can remember on source

[distant fable]

some people dupe from 1st day

why they are not banned/dont go for prison

[hardy lance]

lol no

[dapper bear]

prison

lmao

straight to jail

[hardy lance]

Overcook fish, undercook fish, straight to jail

[agile pawn]

if messing up got you arrested

blizzard would be a desert

[dapper bear]

The dream

[hardy lance]

If you add another "s" it is

[distant fable]

its was hiperbolic

it dont remove the sense of my question

duping exist from 1st day

then how to fix it fair?

on mg

[sacred nebula]

can i change my listing price without losing favor?

[agile pawn]

it does absolutely remove “sense” of your question if you go around saying we should shoot the devs yes

[distant fable]

u know what is black humour?

[agile pawn]

hilarious

[distant fable]

u know tarantino movies?

pulp fiction etc?

[crisp swallow]

definitely a kid lmao

[distant fable]

tarantino?

[split wave]

Patched out the gold dupe

[distant fable]

agree 100%

[hardy lance]

<@&1161418687471956101> might want to take a look at this dude's humor

[distant fable]

im start believeing some of u dupe gold guys from chat

thats why u focus on me personally not on solution

to fix the problem

[fresh plover]

no

[agile pawn]

none of us can fix the problem mate

this isn’t a brainstorming meeting

[fresh plover]

ye like nobody can do anything, they wont reroll or rollback servers

[distant fable]

so it meansd

[fresh plover]

most they can do is ban people so rip economy

[distant fable]

people who duped gold, have 1000b gold and 3-4lp items in stash, they will keep it, and normal average players will farm 2 milion per hour in echoes?

[hardy lance]

Which IMO they should not roll back servers. The most fair approach is to try to undo all of the AH trades and purchases made with bad gold, but even that is going to be a pita.

[agile pawn]

game’s probably f-cked let’s be frank

could get a cheeky steam refund though

[delicate notch]

Oh they fixed the bug with the patch. I'm on reddit and the game director said it

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/wO6rDpWU2A

[fresh plover]

no they can still ban people who duped since they have logs, but they can control the gold that those dupers already poured into economy

[dapper bear]

CoF until next cycle or you're bascially f-ed