plugin-discussion

[static pollen]

approximately

[midnight obsidian]

it's already 8x8

[static pollen]

About 17×13

for example the entry should be like 3 tiles long

in fact it is this isometric illustration which is badly sized

[crimson basin]

hmmm

[midnight obsidian]

stfu

[crimson basin]

hey rtobby

i just got a great idea

[midnight obsidian]

huh

i'm all ears

👂

[crimson basin]

instead of sleeping

i should make my this plugin

from a 3x3 to a 4x4

good idea?

[midnight obsidian]

that looks uh very bland if i were honest

[crimson basin]

i mean i already have it as a plugin

the shadows suck

so was thinking id make it bigger while i fix the shadows

[crimson basin]

whatd ya expect social housing to look like lol

also im not sure if it should be a 3x3 or 4x4

[crimson basin]

also know what sounds fun?

lots of animations

okay i think im turning into a manic lmao

[sharp kettle]

any forum tutorials on making a road decoration for diagonal roads?

[keen swallow]

what's the attribute/code for making one lane roads?

[low loom]

No

[crimson basin]

it looks a bit off

is it because its too low?

[dreamy hearth]

Yes

[crimson basin]

this look right?

[dreamy hearth]

Placement is better now

Placement looked a bit off at first but that was prolly just my eyes

[crimson basin]

ah okay thanks

[orchid sorrel]

I'd move the whole chimneys a pixel down

[crimson basin]

oh

okay

[crimson basin]

vut it moves it back into this position

with one pixel to the right from that

[orchid sorrel]

that's right

[crimson basin]

oh 🤔

[languid burrow]

@uncut acorn Can you make LRT Line 2?

[midnight obsidian]

I think you can find it in tutorials and documentation > resources > JSON

[uncut acorn]

No…

I really can’t do those stuff

[keen swallow]

already saw there, I don't wanna make One Way Roads, But one lane roads

there's no tutorials about one lane roads

[midnight obsidian]

i think it's possible to restrict vehicles from driving on one side of the road, i'm unsure how though

[keen swallow]

yeah it's what I want to do, allow cars to only drive on the left lane of the road

[midnight obsidian]

you could go to #plugin-support and ask

[keen swallow]

if anyone seeing this know how, I'm grateful if u could help!!

[lavish sail]

size does not matter ( compared to in-game buildings it will be huge, I think)

in this building, in reality, 700 apartments, that is, inside the game it is somewhere around 1,400 Dwellers!

ok, 1050 i think

[lavish sail]

Only the shadows are left. I know there are mistakes here, but still, it's one of my first works, I like it.

[haughty anvil]

Wow

Awesome

[midnight obsidian]

incredible

[crimson basin]

are you sure youre new?

[lavish sail]

Yeah, honestly, I'm shocked I made it.

[crimson basin]

have fun with shadows

[lavish sail]

accurately

+- 1 hour of work)

and im going to touch grass

[crimson basin]

just 1 hour?

[lavish sail]

+- half of hour

[uncut acorn]

Woah

Very accurate

[haughty anvil]

And this man is new

Just wow

[lavish sail]

please tell me where I forgot to finish drawing the shadow, if I forgot

[mortal steeple]

Looks amazing good job

[lavish sail]

Thanks you very much

[crimson basin]

wall shadow here is the only one im seeing

[orchid scroll]

Bro what

Thats crazy

You are not new

[lavish sail]

I need to rest, I'm going to touch the grass))

i drew it until +- 8 hours

[dreamy hearth]

@gentle spindle the US Bank Tower already exists

Check either forums or the plugin store

[misty pawn]

Save trees ❤️

[haughty anvil]

||Says that and actually cuts trees||

[left gale]

When will the airships be published? 🥺

[midnight obsidian]

The Carrot Defeat

@livid agate celebrate the pickle victory 🏆

[crimson basin]

not the cawwot

[midnight obsidian]

yes kill the carrot

[left gale]

Will report that as violence

[crimson basin]

me too

[midnight obsidian]

pickles are the only superior veggie

[midnight obsidian]

contact emergency help

[crimson basin]

ill call 911

[livid agate]

https://tenor.com/view/paimon-clapping-clap-happy-paimon-clap-gif-18741726

[midnight obsidian]

next up

bell peppers

although hmm

[crimson basin]

i will eat you rtobby'

you killed my cawwot

[left gale]

I want my mushroom back

[haughty anvil]

I will make that plugin for me because probably it will like look like people and props pack so much so it can cause problems @crimson basin

[crimson basin]

yeah you do that

ill go sleep

[crimson basin]

you might be able to share it if you get permission from the original creator

[haughty anvil]

Okay then bye 👋

[haughty anvil]

Maybe

If it will look nice i can share it

[midnight obsidian]

Fireproof

chilli pepper is gone

[haughty anvil]

Pickle is so op

[midnight obsidian]

🔪tomato
🔪carrot
🔪chilli pepper

🏆pickle

[haughty anvil]

I am wondering who can defeat the pickle

[midnight obsidian]

what other veggies should the pickle defeat 🤔

[midnight obsidian]

nothing

pickle is god

[haughty anvil]

#picklebest

[midnight obsidian]

based

you know what

let's defeat some fruits too

[haughty anvil]

nice idea

lets show pickle’s strength

[midnight obsidian]

Grape Shakedown

@crimson basin the grapes are dead >:)

[haughty anvil]

Eh dont make grapes, anyone can beat them

Make a stronger fruit

[left gale]

Dragon fruit would be great

[midnight obsidian]

oh i've got a great idea

[keen swallow]

does anyone knows how to make an One Lane Road? (Not one way). I already searched everywhere, and nothing helped.

[midnight obsidian]

The King is Dethroned

[misty pawn]

Clean cut

[left gale]

{
 "id":"$my_unique_road00",
 "type":"road",
...
 "one way":true,
...
}

and provide 64 frames for your road

See more here on content_road.json
https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?t=5661

Ohh you meant, one lane...

Read more here on Determining vehicle directions, it handles road directions for each parcel of a single tile

https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?t=7760

There's a lot of numbers there, but trust me, it doesn't have deadly math

[keen swallow]

yeah I lost all my braincells and didn't understood a dot

I wanna make something like this btw

[keen swallow]

(this isn't mine)

[crimson basin]

no no no no no this is the end of the world aaaa

[keen swallow]

I figured how to do One Lane Roads.

But there's a new problem.

The cars are going On the opposite way too.

How to solve this now? 🤡

[strange cloud]

Try mine "under experiment" singletrack rails code:

  {
    "id": "$ITPYK_RAIL_ONELANE",
    "type": "road",
    "title": "Single Rail[in]Rel satu lajur",
    "text": "Two-way rail for your city, requires bridge rails to make bridges, the width of this rail (one rail to another) is 1067mm, made specifically for the Indonesian transport pack plugin, it is recommended to use another plugin for bridges.[in]Rel dua arah untuk kota kalian, membutuhkan rel jembatan untuk membuat jembatan,lebar rel (rel yang satu ke lain) ini adalah 1067mm,dibuat khusus untuk plugin Indonesia transport pack, direkomendasikan untuk memakai plugin lain untuk jembatan.",
    "frames": [
      { "bmp": "RailsONE.png", "y":0, "w": 32, "h": 15, "count": 16 },
      { "bmp": "RailsONE.png", "y":15, "w": 32, "h": 15, "count": 16 },
      { "bmp": "RailsONE.png", "y":30, "w": 32, "h": 15, "count": 16 },
      { "bmp": "RailsONE.png", "y":45, "w": 32, "h": 15, "count": 16 }
    ],
    "dirs": [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0, 0, 0, 3, 3, 8, 8, 8, 8, 2, 0, 1, 1, 6, 3, 6, 3, 3, 5, 2, 5, 0, 8, 1, 8, 10, 10, 9, 1, 6, 6, 6, 6, 10, 10, 9, 3],
    "template": "$ITPYK_TEMPRAIL00",
    "one way": true,
    "hidden":true
  }

[sinful meadow]

67% 😤

[urban grove]

67%? That's pretty low for having 2 million downloads

[uncut acorn]

Nice

[uncut acorn]

So unfair

[haughty anvil]

Very nice

But this building seems so big

[urban grove]

Is this a palace or something?

[gusty radish]

which palace??

[left gale]

If you wanna add no directions, add some 0

"dirs":[0,0,0,0, ... ] //no directions for the first frame in all 4 parcels

[haughty anvil]

Is it 16x16

[gusty radish]

ochen krasivii misto

nieee

a gde ban

[stoic palm]

Okay.

[gusty radish]

where

[stoic palm]

You have both been told countless times to use #language-bar

If you continue to not you'll be muted

Now get

[gusty radish]

k, tell please where I can download Fitamint's and some Hadestia's plugin??

[crimson basin]

fitamints plugins are no longer available

[crimson basin]

Hadestias plugins are available on forum and store
Heres the link to his forum page: https://forum.theotown.com/search.php?author_id=1853&fid[]=43&sc=1&sr=topics&sk=t&sf=firstpost
Store can be accessed in game

[static pollen]

Keep this size it's fine

[haughty anvil]

Then why template looks so big

[gusty radish]

thanks!!

[dreamy hearth]

How?

[orchid scroll]

Free space

[low loom]

Coal

[haughty anvil]

Okay 👍

[uncut acorn]

I have a question.

Why is Hadestia’s Terminal Exchange has been removed in plugin store?

The plugin looks cool tbh though.

[left gale]

Ptag Hadestia's plugins

[agile forum]

If, after installing any of Hadestia's plugins your game fails to launch and it displays a Lua error, usually the fix is to remove that specific newly installed plugin.

[crimson basin]

he asked why it was removed

i think the terminal had a little bug

[left gale]

backward incompatibility is my guess

[keen swallow]

gonna try, thanks mate

[keen swallow]

gonna try, thanks bro

the code I'm using now btw is this:

[
{
"dirs": [
0,
0,
0,
0,
0,
4,
0,
1,
0,
0,
2,
8,
2,
4,
2,
1,
4,
0,
1,
0,
4,
4,
1,
1,
4,
4,
2,
8,
4,
4,
11,
11,
2,
8,
0,
0,
2,
8,
1,
1,
2,
8,
2,
8,
2,
11,
2,
11,
4,
8,
1,
8,
14,
14,
1,
1,
7,
8,
7,
8,
15,
15,
15,
15
],
"draw ground": true,
"one way": true,
"frames": [
{
"bmp": "transparentdottedroad.png",
"count": 16,
"h": 16,
"w": 32
},
{
"bmp": "transparentdottedroad.png",
"count": 16,
"h": 16,
"w": 32
},
{
"bmp": "transparentdottedroad.png",
"count": 16,
"h": 16,
"w": 32
},
{
"bmp": "transparentdottedroad.png",
"count": 16,
"h": 16,
"w": 32
}
],
"id": "$gb4_transparentdottedonelaneroad2",
"level": 1,
"monthly price": 1,
"price": 65,
"speed": "3.0",
"text": "test",
"title ": "One Lane Dotted Test",
"type": "road"
}
]

[orchid sorrel]

nice formatting

[echo prairie]

0,
0,
0,
0,
0,

[left gale]

definitely a nightmare

[midnight obsidian]

beautiful

[livid agate]

should probably improve that old plugin

but eh

[dreamy hearth]

🤝 🌶️

[keen swallow]

what's wrong with it??

[orchid sorrel]

everything 😩

[echo prairie]

Probably 0,
0,
0,
0,
0,

[midnight obsidian]

mostly the fact that dirs are each in a separate line

[midnight obsidian]

@haughty anvil warning it says did the carrot win and not did the pickle win

[haughty anvil]

Nooo

It wasnt pickle, i am remembering like that ?

[midnight obsidian]

it was pickle before

[haughty anvil]

Yea i wrote that message for pickle

Pickle is the best ofcourse

[crimson basin]

please vote for the cawwot because itz cute owo

[haughty anvil]

Sorry bunny but no, pickle is god nothing can beat him

[sharp kettle]

i voted carrot, my death sentance is due tomorrow at xx:xx AM

[crimson basin]

I love you/p

[misty pawn]

8 done 4 left

Probably just 7 I still gotta work on that harvester

[sharp kettle]

nice, i wouldnt have the patience to make 4 frames for a vehicle..

[lunar snow]

2 actually

you only need to make 2

then mirror them and fix the ahadows

shadows*

Nice

[sharp kettle]

i know, for the shadow part i dont just make it darker

[drowsy briar]

Update Graphics, before and after

[thin wraith]

hm

definitely an improvement

[sharp kettle]

the super blue glass on the bottom floor could use some improvement

[runic reef]

roof shadows and skylights and I should be done

[drowsy briar]

thanks for the advice

But I will include it in the next update

[languid burrow]

@crimson basin Is the terminal exchange removed from the plugins store?

[orchid scroll]

Afordlabe

[kindred tide]

What the heck are you pricing for 9999999999999999999999999

Immortality?

[sharp kettle]

99999999999999999999999999999: 😐
31:🤬

@kindred tide , warn the guy

[kindred tide]

@rain gate Bobbie please don't ping random people

[sharp kettle]

he spammed it in every

channel

[kindred tide]

Ppunish @rain gate

[agile forum]

Case #3532

2hz.0#0047 has been warned: Spam.

[kindred tide]

@rain gate please don't do so again Bobbie.

[sharp kettle]

btw are you gonna remove the uh.. the pings?

@kindred tide best if you mute/jain him..

[kindred tide]

Working on it thanks!

[kindred tide]

@rain gate I don't see the reason. It was just one bot.

[orchid sorrel]

you uploaded it 30 minutes ago...

[sharp kettle]

Be Patient..

[haughty anvil]

They are right

Nothing

They are just right, you should wait for some time

[sharp kettle]

and other people have waited for weeks for thier plugin to be uploaded so be patient.

[haughty anvil]

Yeah

[sharp kettle]

mein gott,.

[haughty anvil]

Tt approving system is slow

So lets wait

[sharp kettle]

i wouldnt really say system, isnt it depends on the mods that approves it when they got time?

[haughty anvil]

Yeah, its not a system at all

But tbh some creators saying that they are waiting too long and i think mods are very slow

[orchid sorrel]

you're not privileged, just wait until it gets approved

begging here won't help at all

[sharp kettle]

i wonder if i was privileged back then 🤔, or back then it was just fast

[orchid sorrel]

probably neither lol

[haughty anvil]

Bots cant work properly if you put them to approve ?

[sharp kettle]

er.. i think approving plugin isnt a bot's work

[sharp kettle]

back then was pretty fast tho

well not like very fast

but only like days

for me atleast

or atleast thats what i remembered

[haughty anvil]

Yeah but mods are slow

[sharp kettle]

bots are gonna mess up approving plugins

[haughty anvil]

Why

[sharp kettle]

you figure it out..

[crimson basin]

bots cant exactly moderate the quality of a plugin

[haughty anvil]

I am wondering how that approve system works, like whats the stages

[crimson basin]

we might be ending up with brightly coloured buildings

[haughty anvil]

Yes but way faster

[crimson basin]

do you want quality or faster?

[sharp kettle]

the mods gotta examine the plugin

[haughty anvil]

They are looking for that too ?

[crimson basin]

i think you need to take a look at some of the stuff that gets uploaded

[sharp kettle]

from the png, the code

[crimson basin]

yes

[sharp kettle]

and whats inside the zip and all of that

[haughty anvil]

Wow, its why approves are slow

[crimson basin]

it cant be done by a bot

they look at the shadows

and everything

plus scale

[haughty anvil]

I thought they are just looking for that plugin is suitable with rules or not

[crimson basin]

those are rules too

it should fit with the games style

ai cannoy do that

https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?t=9085

[sharp kettle]

also like

[haughty anvil]

Yeah but i wasnt talking about game rules, you know the rules that like discord

[sharp kettle]

in case the plugin were stolen from somewhere

duplicate

[crimson basin]

plugin store rules if you wanna have a look

[sharp kettle]

there are lots of reason

[haughty anvil]

Yeah i didnt know that they are looking for quality

[crimson basin]

mhm

thats why it has to be manually checked. Both code, graphics and overall in game performance

[haughty anvil]

Okay then thats why bots cant be used, but still it takes long to approve

[crimson basin]

because real life?

very few active plugin mods

[haughty anvil]

It can changable that amount of sended plugins

[crimson basin]

i think theres only 3 active? not sure causeeee you have to check that with kulche

[crimson basin]

wdym?

[haughty anvil]

Really how many plugins are sending for approve each moth

[crimson basin]

im sure you dont see it but they disapprove plentyyy of plugins

[haughty anvil]

Like if there is too many plugins waiting for approve it should be hard

[crimson basin]

more disapproved than approved

[haughty anvil]

Wow

[haughty anvil]

After that, creators are fixing problems and sending again ?

[crimson basin]

like i said plugin mods have to check the texture space use by opening the json, then xheck the json for malicious code or anything too op and also check it in game

[haughty anvil]

Hmm

Okay

Thanks for help bunny

I can finally understand the how approve system works

[sharp kettle]

heres a little something

pending plugins

[haughty anvil]

Omg

Wow

[crimson basin]

wait you can see that?

[haughty anvil]

600 plugins, how ?

[crimson basin]

im sure its not that many (right?)

[sharp kettle]

well, like you said yourself

most are dissaproved

there are like.. people(probably kids) that watch yt tutorial on how to make plugin

[haughty anvil]

That means like 1/5 of store

[sharp kettle]

made a little cartoony house and probably wanted to upload them

[sharp kettle]

i can approve plugins
its from rtobby

[crimson basin]

or kids that dont even bother from some of the stuff ive seen

[haughty anvil]

Oh okay so most of these plugins are made by childs

[crimson basin]

take picture from google, uploads preview with image, ridiculous amount of influence
mommy look, i made a plugin

[haughty anvil]

mommy should be proud

[midnight obsidian]

We disapprove a lot more plugins than we do approve

[crimson basin]

spoiler: mommy is not proud

[midnight obsidian]

But since disapprovals aren't shared publicly, you don't know about that

[sharp kettle]

1984!

[haughty anvil]

Yes

[haughty anvil]

no way, these plugins was probably one of the best plugins ever ❗❗

[midnight obsidian]

Protip: if you want to "see" more activity from us, upload plugins that are disapprove worthy (don't actually)

[sharp kettle]

my first plugin was disapproved twice 🤯

[haughty anvil]

Wow, okay then i am uploading blahaj’s photo

[haughty anvil]

Can you show it ?

[sharp kettle]

it is gone

[haughty anvil]

Oh

[crimson basin]

i had my plugin disapproved once (understandable lmao)
was wayyy too bright

[sharp kettle]

same lol

[crimson basin]

it was disapproved on an update

[sharp kettle]

i just keep screwing up shadows

[crimson basin]

not when i was uploading

[crimson basin]

i cant do different angled surfaces :(

i can do cuboids

[haughty anvil]

But they cant disapprove mine because its blahaj

[crimson basin]

watch commander disapprove it

(non blahaj lover)

[haughty anvil]

noo

[midnight obsidian]

Oh hell no

[runic reef]

thats how I learned how to make the a plugin

[haughty anvil]

Why 😭

[midnight obsidian]

Don't exploit me like that

[uncut acorn]

Yeah this make me laugh but I never want to stop hahahaha

[midnight obsidian]

:D

[uncut acorn]

Just one thing, the roof needs much noise

[midnight obsidian]

60 is the default given price when uploading a plugin, this guy mustve overlooked it

[haughty anvil]

Why there is no 0

[crimson basin]

i wonder why its 60

[midnight obsidian]

It's actually somewhere in the 20s now

[crimson basin]

becauseee if people download plugins for free, where do the devs get money from?

[haughty anvil]

Oh right

😅

My bad

But some plugins are free ?

[midnight obsidian]

Yes but they're published by developers

[crimson basin]

because they are from lobby and essentially game extentions i believe

[midnight obsidian]

Yeah rhat

[crimson basin]

game extentions as in instead of releasing it on the base game they release it as a plugin

like the anime one

not everyone wants to have that

[haughty anvil]

But i am remembering that some are from normal creators

[crimson basin]

no?

[haughty anvil]

How

[crimson basin]

nvm the anime thing is 30 diamonds

[haughty anvil]

But i am sure, there is 4-5 plugins like that

[haughty anvil]

I am wondering who bought anime

[crimson basin]

me

:>

[haughty anvil]

||fuk||

[crimson basin]

fyi

thats 30k downloads

[haughty anvil]

35000 wow

[crimson basin]

yep

[haughty anvil]

Hmm

I am sure that there is 2-3 plugin that is free

[crimson basin]

i cant find the other one

im pretty sure the one that won the last one is fre

[haughty anvil]

Yea its free

But i am talking about another plugin

[crimson basin]

which one

[haughty anvil]

I dont remember the name, but its a road plugin ig

[orchid sorrel]

what is even your all problem

[runic reef]

i did

[haughty anvil]

Who ? Me?

[orchid sorrel]

the whole free plugins chat lol

but anyway

[haughty anvil]

I am really sure about this, i will find it

[orchid sorrel]

the short answer is: no, you can't set your price to 0 and you never could

[haughty anvil]

Yea i know that but there is some plugins that is free

Anyways

If i find it i will send pic

[orchid sorrel]

yes because they were set that way by the developers

[untold pumice]

i need help creating good looking asphalt for my plugin

its my first plugin i dont know how

[orchid sorrel]

my common materials texture file says that asphalt is
5 15 32
15 10 100

the upper values should be hsv, and the lower ones are for paint.net's noise settings

[midnight obsidian]

nuclear launch codes

[untold pumice]

Ok thanks

[untold pumice]

fr

[haughty anvil]

Does anyone can help me about an app, its called resprite and idk how to use it

[untold pumice]

sorry i dont use it

is this good enough or do it need more shades?

i made the walls look better, well worse they old walls

[crimson basin]

where are thw shadows to begin with?

pls refer to the pins

[untold pumice]

the texture for the plugin is good but there's a problem where the buildings not on the 2x2 zone like its off it or whatever

dis

i don't know how to fix it

yes

ye ikr

[crimson basin]

can i see your json?

is it also like that when you place the building?

[untold pumice]

it's a zip

[untold pumice]

yes

[crimson basin]

but can i see a picture of your json?

[untold pumice]

it's empty

i used the plugin creator website

[crimson basin]

itll still create a json

[untold pumice]

that's the json file

[crimson basin]

dont open it as an image

get a json reading app

like json genie

its not an image, its a text file

[untold pumice]

ok well im knew to this type of stuff ima try

[uncut acorn]

👀

Who won? Like? Or dislike?

[crimson basin]

wher

link message

[crimson basin]

can you open it and show?

[untold pumice]

Ok

[crimson basin]

oh one question can i also see your image?

full image

[uncut acorn]

#plugin-showcase message

[untold pumice]

the building for plugin?

[crimson basin]

yeah

is there any space at the bottom perhaps?

[untold pumice]

no just a ad

top

[crimson basin]

clearly dislikes won

[uncut acorn]

Oh good

Likes won

[midnight obsidian]

warning warning

she's trying to trap you into starting an argument

[uncut acorn]

What’s going on?

[midnight obsidian]

i can tell you from experience

[crimson basin]

im not gonna vote. It sounds like a good plugin but i dont think the light and shadows are right

[midnight obsidian]

she still denies that the pickle won

[untold pumice]

21 21 now

[crimson basin]

L for rtobby :>

[uncut acorn]

Eh.

[midnight obsidian]

i will tell einfach.irgendjemand about this bullying

[crimson basin]

and ill tell him about yours

[midnight obsidian]

hm when did i bully

[untold pumice]

so how i get my plugin working huh?

[crimson basin]

"false"

[midnight obsidian]

bunnies are fake

[crimson basin]

can we stick to one channel (#plugin-support) please?

[crimson basin]

i am very real. and i will consume you for what you are accusing my cawwot of

[uncut acorn]

Ohhh someone is accusing

[midnight obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bnuuy-steals-your-bunny-steals-your-bnuuy-gif-26209043

now bunnies are fake

anyways uh let's carry this topic to #general

[left gale]

Dogs aren't

[untold pumice]

mark zuckerberg is actually a 9273618AJJ-387-8892-69 and not human

[uncut acorn]

Ahh nice

[rich birch]

Now looks great

[untold pumice]

ok

you want the file? ir like a screenshot or something

[orchid scroll]

Chateau

[orchid sorrel]

it's cool, but the roof shapes look very weird

I can barely make out what shapes are supposed to be there

you should use different colors for shadows and the like

[rain gate]

I feel like you should add some trees, maybe a pavilion or a small royal shed

[warm spruce]

not on the building

better to add it manually later

the u can use it for more purposes

[rain gate]

yea like that

it adds more flair

[frigid tusk]

We would more likely call it a Château type Renaissance

[uncut acorn]

Dang bro that’s nice

[warm spruce]

very good tbh

but the texture needs a few touches

its too bland, u shouldnt make the bricks or the roof as a pattern

and it needs noise

[static sail]

Are there any tutorials and tips for a newbie plugin creator like me?

I was thinking making plugins again

I haven't a new one for years

Most of my plugins that I made years ago are pure shite

[rain gate]

Stockholm apartments.

[static sail]

Ah someone still remember that

Dw, still got it

[orchid sorrel]

zamn

[static sail]

Goddamn

[crimson basin]

pins

[static sail]

You don't have to remind me again

[crimson basin]

oh~

[sharp kettle]

Beyond perfect

[sharp kettle]

i really wish these billboards were in a category.. 😵‍💫

[dreamy hearth]

Hello is there documentation on how the "ground frames" attribute works?

[long socket]

You should ask that guy
(Chaotic Neutral)

[thin wraith]

did you mean

justanyone

[long socket]

Oh wait a min

He is...

Justanyone?

[long socket]

real or not

😱

[thin wraith]

whar

yes

[long socket]

dang why nobody tell me that he's Justanyone

[urban grove]

He changed his name? I prefer Chaotic Neutral

[long socket]

Idk

[paper river]

Nice

[crimson basin]

you just found out? Hes the only one with a blue name

[orchid sorrel]

pretty sure you just append it like any other frame

play around with it

[long socket]

ye

[midnight obsidian]

I prefer einfach.irgendjemand

[left gale]

I prefer the old one, DS

[uncut acorn]

Red Planet Hotel

[crimson basin]

ooh cute

[misty pawn]

Looks weird

[uncut acorn]

This is what it look like in RL

[red lintel]

Kinds needs a bit of depth

[mortal tapir]

Looks amazing

[left gale]

Mute it

[mortal tapir]

Really impressive

[severe flame]

no

AAHHH MY EARS

[crimson basin]

lmao

that one is on you

[lavish sail]

ok guys

how to make animation in json

[crimson basin]

you start by defining it and then add it under frames

[lavish sail]

I just have another problem, how does the game distinguish which frames are for different perspectives and which are for animation?

[orchid sorrel]

what do you mean?

bunny's wrong, you don't "add it under frames"

it's a night animation, so it's stored in the animation array

you can use the "frame":index attribute to tell the game which animation to use for the orientations

[lavish sail]

wut

I'm not that pro, can you just explain how it should look like?)

[crimson basin]

are you doing a night animation?

[lavish sail]

no, just animation

[crimson basin]

you dont?

but dont we add it in the frames array for the main thing?

[lavish sail]

just add frames?

[crimson basin]

im asking kulche btw

you go do what kulche said :)

[lavish sail]

kulche is genius like kodzima

... i think

[crimson basin]

he knows what hes talking about

[lavish sail]

he hasn't touched the grass for 510 years...

[rain gate]

sad 😔

[crimson basin]

nah, kulche got a life more than some of us haha

[lavish sail]

The only conclusion is that he is God.

[uncut acorn]

I think I know you before…
You’re the one who make the “werty center towers” and other tallest skyscrapers, right?

[rain gate]

#plugin-showcase message was this taken off the store?

[rich birch]

When will you release the blimp :<

[misty pawn]

Just an hour ago maybe it was there

Or morning

Can't get time right lately all same👀

[rain gate]

I was just wondering since I couldn't find it

[mortal tapir]

Are you sure

You can handle it

It's hard

[ {
"frames": [{ "bmp": ".png",
"count":,
"h": ,
"w":}],
"id": "$",
"speed":,
"type": "animation"
},
{
"frames": [{"bmp": ".png",
"count": ,
"h": ,
"w":} ],
"id": "$",
"speed":,
"type": "animation"
},
{
"frames": [{"bmp": ".png",
"count":,
"h":,
"w":}],
"id": "$",
"speed":,
"type": "animation"
},
{
"animation": [{
"id": "$",
"x":,
"y":
},
{
"id": "$",
"x":,
"y":
},
{
"id": "$",
"x":,
"y":}],

"author": "",
"frames": [{ "bmp": ".png"} ],
"height": ,
"id": "$your_plugin",
"text": "",
"title": "",
"type": "",
"water": ,
"width":
}]

[orchid sorrel]

that's pretty unreadable but it should work like that

[orchid sorrel]

no???

pretty sure there are like at least 3 tutorials on animations on forums so you might want to take a look into those

[left gale]

Depends on the number of airships I make, rn it's 3, I targeted 5 or more

Haraya Company is running out of Helium supplies @rich birch sorry 🥺

[vale mortar]

Is this tree okay? 💀

[crimson basin]

i see a face staring at my soul

also theres a tutorial on making trees on the forum

[vale mortar]

tbh, i'm making a MC tree

wait, that's just the ketchup Steve brought this morning

[mortal tapir]

WTFFFFFFFFF

Here's the god

[rain gate]

bro not steve 😔

[mortal tapir]

Respect 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[vale mortar]

3 trees now

[crimson basin]

oh thats kinda cool actually

[dawn folio]

It’s just a little unfortunate for him, no lie

[crimson basin]

rip steve

[mortal tapir]

Hahaha yeah

[crimson basin]

why does steves head turn cyan?

[rain gate]

thats the axe

[crimson basin]

id assume he just has one axe when hes chopping down a tree

[crimson basin]

but theres twooo

[vale mortar]

it's ketchup ngl

[rain gate]

the 2 pixels are the axe im pretty sure

[crimson basin]

whats ketchup?

i feel like an axe should just be 1 pixel

since a sword would be two 🤔

[mortal tapir]

Yep

[vale mortar]

I'm just trying to make it look like an axe

[crimson basin]

so hes using a sword to chop down the tree?

oh

nah let him jhave 1 cyan pixel, i think people would get it

[mortal tapir]

The tree have animated shadows Nice

[oblique tundra]

Not the axe casually walking away from the crime scene

[dawn folio]

Steve didn’t stand a chance 🤧

[crimson basin]

i want this as a plugin. but perhaps you can make the tree fit more with the in game ones?

you can use in game trees as a reference

[dawn folio]

You wanna watch him die over and over? 😂

[vale mortar]

Cool right?

[crimson basin]

looks odd

[vale mortar]

I want the tree to jump up a few times but...

[oblique tundra]

Wow it really looks like Minecraft trees

[crimson basin]

its not exactly how shadows work in game

but i absolutely love the idea

[dawn folio]

A victory dance?

[oblique tundra]

If you see from the right perspective

[vale mortar]

imagine Steve's mess 💀

[crimson basin]

the first tree is looking at me like -_-

[vale mortar]

the 3rd tree's also looking at you

[crimson basin]

nooo

oh yeah

what are they thinking?

[dim thorn]

Cool

[vale mortar]

it's really hard to draw them in pixels but i'm trying

[vale mortar]

Steve's gone and you're next

[dawn folio]

That’s crazy 💀

[crimson basin]

noo

[dawn folio]

The tree got a kill streak goin on??

[crimson basin]

try using a real minecraft tree for reference

[misty pawn]

How to turn people into....nvm

[vale mortar]

Ketchup 💀

[misty pawn]

YES ketchup

Totally

[crimson basin]

i like this quirky building

i like quirky stuff :D

its fun

[dawn folio]

Yessiree

[crimson basin]

i should finish my other plugin. the one with flashy lights

[dawn folio]

Is like a statue?

[crimson basin]

building

[urban grove]

Rip Steve 2009 - 2023 😔
Legend never dies!
No seriously, this is actually pretty cool. Finally Steve in TheoTown!

[dawn folio]

He fine I promise 🙏🏽

It’s just ketchup 🤧

[crimson basin]

only temporarily??

[oblique tundra]

He respawn

[dawn folio]

Hopefully my guy got keep inventory on, it would be a shame to lose a diamond axe

[urban grove]

Ever heard of Hardcore mode?

[misty pawn]

Didn't the axe run?💀

[vale mortar]

😳 wait.... No...

[dawn folio]

They were an accomplice??

[urban grove]

Ngl the trees look kinda weird. Especially the left one -_-

[dawn folio]

There a whole lore behind this 💀

[crimson basin]

awesomeee

a lot of my stuff has lore

[vale mortar]

It's looking at u ngl

[oblique tundra]

You guys are looking at them in the wrong way

Like 2d

[urban grove]

Yea but it still looks weird

[vale mortar]

and will find you tonight

[dawn folio]

😳

[vale mortar]

i'm not joking

[urban grove]

Ummm so uhh. Since you're making a Minecraft plugin, will there be houses? Like a villager house

[dawn folio]

What is it gonna do?? 🤨

[vale mortar]

Awesome ngl

it'll become my 51st plugin if all goes well

[dawn folio]

Not if the tree reaches you first 😳

[vale mortar]

but i will update slowly

[vale mortar]

Yeah. The trees're first

[misty pawn]

Hold your chainsaws tight ppl

[crimson basin]

this man giving me motivatiion to finish my plugin 💜

[vale mortar]

Finish it 🫵😎

[crimson basin]

i will!

it just uses too much animation lmao

its making my head hurt

[vale mortar]

What's that plugin?

[crimson basin]

i dunno i think im gonna call it bunny arcade

[vale mortar]

where you can pet, feed and ride giant bunnies? 😳

or bunny-shaped arcades?

[crimson basin]

uh no

bunny as in me so my arcade

the day frame is pretty much done but night animation is eeee

[crimson basin]

i see lots of colours and lights

[vale mortar]

night animation is boring and challenging

[crimson basin]

i can show ya what i have rn but its not complete

[vale mortar]

do you plant in the middle of the road? 💀

[dawn folio]

I still never figured out how to use those lights

[vale mortar]

Oh u can show me if you want

[main hare]

They must love farming anywhere they can.

[left gale]

Traffic lights alone has 59 defined animations (includes night light)

[vale mortar]

produce oxygen, reduce the greenhouse effect and you have vegetables. Who doesn't love that

[left gale]

Yes, our city is trying to be smart and green as possible

[crimson basin]

wow lol

why so many?

[left gale]

You may wanna try building some junctions, from prebuilt junctions category

[main hare]

If you were civilians are polluting your city that bad,You should just kick them all out and you’ll never have to deal with that ever again.

[left gale]

Many animations could reduced texture space

[dim thorn]

Make this

[crimson basin]

cant get you a recording, pc is too laggy for that but basically the little glow moves up

i should probably make it move faster

[vale mortar]

it's not done yet right?

[crimson basin]

yeah

i need to either draw a buttload more frames or find a more efficient way to do it

because even as it is, its running on 25 frames for that one light animation

[vale mortar]

the building's fine. I think you should make the glasses look transparent by drawing more furniture and people inside

[crimson basin]

i can reuse that one 2 more times but after that i have to redraw them

[crimson basin]

yeah im gonna work on the glass since im not very happy with it

[vale mortar]

I know it's not done yet but I have some small ideas

[vale mortar]

the text "bunny" should have a colorful light that changes continuously, or at least for the text border

[left gale]

If you're building a T-intersection, you may use T-type traffic lights...
T1, T2, T3, or T4
Choose one type then build it to all incoming directions 😉 pretty easy (wait sometime, cause traffic lights are automatic)

||Now, T-? What number? Idk, build it, trial and error||

[crimson basin]

i can make it colourful but i am not having it move 😭

and i might just leave it white cause fewer animations

i can have them appear in a cool way

[vale mortar]

its size is 3x3 right? please use 4x4 or 5x5 to make squares or decorations 😍

[crimson basin]

no

its a 2x2

plus its just experimental

i might release it, i might not

[vale mortar]

Oh that's good

[left gale]

Here's how animation animate

{
 "type":"animation",
 "frames":[
  {"bmp":"stopMotion01.png"}, 
  {"bmp":"stopMotion02.png"},
  {"bmp":"stopMotion03.png"},
  ...
 ],
 "speed":1.5 //wanna animate it 1.5 times faster 
 ...
}

This sample is just a one way to implement it ||yeah, I'm referring you to forums, animation tutorial||

[crimson basin]

oh wait can i add x y to frames?

[sharp kettle]

oo

seems simple enough

the higher the speed the faster it is the lower the slower it is??

[crimson basin]

faster

[sharp kettle]

wdym faster .-.

[crimson basin]

but it has to be a really high number for it to make a significant difference

[sharp kettle]

high number or low number i mean

[left gale]

Yes, but not on {type:animation} objects

You may do that here

{ 
 "id":"$bldg.mine",
 ...
 "animation":[
  {"id":"$sparkly_blues1", "x":0, "y":0, ... },
  ... //new animation id, say, for windows
 ],
 ...
}

[left gale]

Now use that animation id

plotting it on your bldg, is little challenging, x and y

[orchid sorrel]

did I hear "animation"

[sharp kettle]

no, it was anime

[orchid sorrel]

oh okay I'm out then

[left gale]

ahh here's kulche, come in

[crimson basin]

yeah please help me use fewer frames

[orchid sorrel]

so apparently counting pixels is the difficult part

animations must be piss easy then

[orchid sorrel]

what do you mean

[crimson basin]

i have 25 animations for this one wall

[orchid sorrel]

25 animations???

wtf

you mean frames?

[crimson basin]

i dont wanna have 50 something frames for the second one

[crimson basin]

frames not animations

[orchid sorrel]

..then don't?

[left gale]

ahh some definition of terms is tricky

[crimson basin]

my folder looks like this 😔

[orchid sorrel]

what is exactly the problem

[crimson basin]

i want to use fewer frames

[orchid sorrel]

yeah that does not help at all

what is the animation

[crimson basin]

i want to use maybe like 5 frames and have them move up a pixel each time

it moves up the line

[orchid sorrel]

couldn't you just use a single 1x1 pixel frame and just use move x/y

[left gale]

Gonna need "handle y": int ehh

[crimson basin]

so as it is theres one for each pixel it has to move up

[crimson basin]

well im asking how i do that 😭

[orchid sorrel]

I just told you

move x/y

[left gale]

Is that a flag with a flag pole?

Flag moving up and down

[crimson basin]

no

flashy lights

[left gale]

Flashy lights moving up and down?

[crimson basin]

moving up

when it goes up then it starts from down again

hold on i can share the zip file

[orchid sorrel]

just get a frame with a single pixel and add move y to your frames

it's that shrimple

[sharp kettle]

btw whats the ". . ."

[left gale]

I see one tutorial that uses "move x/y" ... https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2232

[crimson basin]

its 4 pixels actually, at different opacities

[orchid sorrel]

then create a 4x1 frame

[crimson basin]

okay, ill try

[left gale]

A string, in json

I would like you to download this https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?t=5661 just to feel how jsons work

[crimson basin]

and do i use invisible pixel for blank frames?

[sharp kettle]

oo, complete json examples??

[crimson basin]

actually nvm i think i know what im doing

[orchid sorrel]

{"bmp": "sprite.png", "w": 4, "h": 1, "x": 1, "y": 0, "move y": 0} to get the second pixel of your 1x4 frame and keep it at initial position

[orchid sorrel]

????

[crimson basin]

huh

[sharp kettle]

oh my days

[left gale]

||Not so|| complete, in-game jsons, yeah, pretty useful for beginners

[orchid sorrel]

then you'd just go "x": 2, ... "move y": -1 to get the third and move it a pixel up

(if I didn't mess the y axis up)

[crimson basin]

i dont want to keep it in its initial position, i just want it to move up

[left gale]

Defining custom frames is easy, you're not gonna define yours in that way

[orchid sorrel]

read what I've just said

"move y": int moves the selected frame int pixels along the y axis

[crimson basin]

is width the what the dimentions of the animation is?

oh okay

[sharp kettle]

ok so, i have this as my base for the yachts

[orchid sorrel]

dimensions of an individual sprite on your image

you'd have a 4x1 image with 4x 1x1 sprites so width and height are always 1 and 1

[left gale]

Should work

[orchid sorrel]

it's the x that's gonna change

or y, if you make it 1x4

[orchid sorrel]

putting each rotation in a separate file doesn't really sound comfortable to me lol

[sharp kettle]

something like this?? (example)

[left gale]

Lol

[orchid sorrel]

oh god that's even more cursed

[sharp kettle]

🥦

[orchid sorrel]

also, why are you using textures from the world texture???

[left gale]

How you would like it to be?

[crimson basin]

im having trouble explaining what im thinking rn on how my animation moves. it like doesnt dissapear from the top at ones but gradually dissapears at the same time it reappears from the bottom if that amkes sense...

[sharp kettle]

No i did not use any world texture stuff on my yacht??

[sharp kettle]

one sec

[orchid sorrel]

did you write this or did you just copy it without even thinking what it does lol

[sharp kettle]

just copy and pasted a json line

[sharp kettle]

fom here

[sharp kettle]

i wanted the yacht to bounce like this

[orchid sorrel]

yeah, so the second option.....

[left gale]

ahh now kulche have 2 students

[orchid sorrel]

jesus christ.....

[left gale]

Same thing as "move y"

[crimson basin]

i was always his student 🥺

[orchid sorrel]

both of you are making this so much more complicated than it should be

[left gale]

Lol

[crimson basin]

have you seen how my animation moves? 😭

[left gale]

A zip file is enough for me to debug

[crimson basin]

im trying to figure out the dissapearing part

[sharp kettle]

just give me a working example of a json that has animation on it and ill examine it 👀

[orchid sorrel]

chipper: put your yacht frames in a single file, remove all frames from the building itself, define a single rotation aware animation - should contain two frames, 4 sprites each - one at move y 0, other at move y 1/-1, append animation to building

it's that shrimple

[left gale]

Gonna refer you to tutorials, I don't have json files for that

Give me a sec

[sharp kettle]

its quite clampicated

[orchid sorrel]

is that good or bad?

bnnuy: you could create a separate animation for each opacity and then play around with the timing to get them properly synced

[sharp kettle]

im using a dummy json(duplicate) right now to test around so ill work with these 4 frames first

[crimson basin]

but that would mean therell be a lot
because theres like 7 more walls

[left gale]

Custom animations: https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=7455

People animation: https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2232

The crucial part for both of you is the usage of

"move x": int
"move y": int 

// and
"handle interpolation": int

[crimson basin]

idk wtf im doing

[orchid sorrel]

for example:
fully opaque: {0} {1} {2} {3} ...
less opaque 1: {} {0} {1} {2} ...
where each brace is a new frame in an animation and the number is y offset (empty = no frame at all)

[orchid sorrel]

what

[sharp kettle]

whats the difference between people anim and custom anim??

[orchid sorrel]

people steals ingame frames

custom is custom

the functional difference is abysmal

[sharp kettle]

uh.. custom it is since i wanted to make the yacht move up and down

[orchid sorrel]

more like since you wanted to have a yacht, and not an ingame sprite

[left gale]

Same thing like this

mute it

Moves up then center then right then center then down then center then left then center, repeat ... moves by 1 px

[sharp kettle]

ya

[crimson basin]

this is where the animation goes through. so if i toggling transparency through animations, wouldnt it be a lot of stuff?

[orchid sorrel]

bnnuy: or, for simplicity, you could simply schlomp all your frames into a single file to make it more compact, since you already have all of them drawn

[left gale]

There's a ton of different implementation to do that

[orchid sorrel]

your question is incomprehensible

[left gale]

Here's one

[sharp kettle]

so which one do you think should i use, custom or people?

[orchid sorrel]

????

you aren't animating people??

[left gale]

That 2 links have 1 concept, lol

[crimson basin]

and you think i know what im talking about myself? 😭
I just dont really understand how to execute your explanation

[orchid sorrel]

let's see who will be first to have a mental breakdown over animations...

[crimson basin]

i do not have all of them drawn, if im gonna animate the taller walls ill have to make more frames unless i use the moving thingy

[sharp kettle]

._.

[orchid sorrel]

then use the first approach and create 1x1 pixel frames

[sharp kettle]

i dont know what that means but i just wanted to move the frame like this

[orchid sorrel]

it's gonna be some json since your paths are incredibly irregular

[orchid sorrel]

and you've been told what to do and provided with documentation

I'm waiting for questions

[left gale]

tons of different implementation to move the animation frame are ...

• use move x/y (the efficient way)
• use handle x/y but requires more animation defined objects { ... }
• use different frames (but had the same texture/graphics) and then define them each as an animation ||the most inefficient way, but understandable to beginners||

[sharp kettle]

i dont even undersyand what "steal" and "handle interpolation" is

[left gale]

Try "handle interpolation":1

[orchid sorrel]

handle interpolation is basically fps

steal "steals" images from world texture

you don't want this

interpolation should be synonymous with speed

[left gale]

Move to custom animations

[sharp kettle]

mhm

[crimson basin]

okay i made a single 1x1 pixel, now what?

[sharp kettle]

i guess this one seems more understandable

[orchid sorrel]

give it some movement

for now it's static

[crimson basin]

can i make the 4 opacities appear together?

[orchid sorrel]

that ain't gonna work for the start/end parts

[crimson basin]

and move up together?

[orchid sorrel]

you'll need additional animations

[crimson basin]

okay i think i get it

so id start with move y -1?

[orchid sorrel]

the game doesn't know where your building's lcd board ends

start without any additional attributes, then add more frames each with a different move y

[crimson basin]

like this?

[orchid sorrel]

yes

try adding some more frames and see if it works

[sharp kettle]

well, i guess not

[orchid sorrel]

lol

[crimson basin]

okay, ill still need speed, right?

[orchid sorrel]

yeah

play around with it

[sharp kettle]

???

[orchid sorrel]

you just copied the code from the forums

[sharp kettle]

yes i did

[orchid sorrel]

that ain't gonna work like that

I just noticed there are missing commas in the tutorial but I'm not fixing that right now

[sharp kettle]

oh, coma

there, added coma

[left gale]

This is the second bullet, this is also the way I implement the airship moving

{
 "id":"$anim_moving",
 "type":"animation",
 "frames":[ //here we only have 2 frames to pseudo move it
  {"bmp": "boat.png", "handle y":0}, 
  {"bmp": "boat.png", "handle y":-1} //try tweaking it to some other value, negative int goes up
 ]
},

{
 "id":"$deco_boat",
 "type":"decoration",
 "frames":[null], // or anything you want
 ...
 "animation":[
  {"id":"$anim_moving", "x":0, y:0} //plotting it on the bldg
 ]
} 

[orchid sorrel]

yeah that'd be the pseudocode for a building without rotation frames

[left gale]

This is the second bullet of implementation

[left gale]

Referring to this

[sharp kettle]

alr

?

[crimson basin]

its not moving

its staying at where i last entered as a y position

[orchid sorrel]

wtf did you do to the y

look at it again lol

[sharp kettle]

a

[orchid sorrel]

show plugine

[sharp kettle]

oh

[orchid sorrel]

also, y shifts the pivot point, not the frame itself

use move y

not y

[orchid sorrel]

show whole plugin

[left gale]

You're implementing on move y, listen to kulche

[orchid sorrel]

also, are you sure the speed 20 isn't a bit too excessive

[crimson basin]

it was working fine on the other one

[orchid sorrel]

"other one"??

what are you referring to

[crimson basin]

the one i had before with 25 frames

[sharp kettle]

a... pardon? wdym, i have no idea what ive done to the y

[crimson basin]

with different images

[orchid sorrel]

show me the whole plugin

[orchid sorrel]

replace y with move y, we can't make it any simpler than that

[crimson basin]

hold on, gimme a minute to zip it

[sharp kettle]

oh alr

this too?

[left gale]

in animation[{ anim_movinv ... Move y

[orchid sorrel]

no

??

which ones are you talking about

[left gale]

Nah

[orchid sorrel]

yeah so I thought

[sharp kettle]

just "move":0} ?

uh

[orchid sorrel]

what???????

[sharp kettle]

nevermind

[orchid sorrel]

reminds me of the complex industri generic warehouses.......

[sharp kettle]

i thought he said remove y

[sharp kettle]

mmm, spagetthi code

[orchid sorrel]

it's not spaghetti

[sharp kettle]

then i dont know what im talking about

[orchid sorrel]

it'd spaghetti if I were to add random newlines to it

[left gale]

Nope

[sharp kettle]

alr

so.. is this good/

[left gale]

Pardon me, this thing is right

[orchid sorrel]

"doesn't work" has a syntax error

please fix your goddamn syntax errors lol

[sharp kettle]

removed the other 10, 11 and 12 to make life easier

[orchid sorrel]

go ahead and text

test

can't spell

[sharp kettle]

kk, moment of truth

[crimson basin]

i didnt have an error when i opened it

[orchid sorrel]

then what the hell is this

please use proper software 😩