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What slot did at Feyenoord is something not much managers could
They have never been the same after slot left
kompany
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he got burnley promoted
he did well in the championship but got couldnt survive in the prem
true
tbf that burnley team was shit
but he had good tactics
it was inevitable they'd get relegated
and that when paired with the that bayern superteam produced good results
To see how How weak is Championsip
😭😭
any good upcoming matches in the next hour?
any league
just need to watch some footy
levante vs elche
St. Pauli v HSV
Derby
gonna have a look
was thinking of this, newly promoted hsv vs their rivals
great elche side
their in a good run of form for a newly promoted side
what i like in la liga is that there is more open play in contrast to the premier league
Bets league
Quality football
Wise
Weird.. but ehh If he comes back good for him Ig
agreeeeed
Was watching the 1990 West Germany vs Netherlands game and man the ref was strict
We won so it didn't matter ✌️
lens playing after psg every week gotta be putting sm more pressure on them 😭
Lens against marseille is the first game of ligue 1 i will Watch fully
Real. And even more on Ligue 1 McDonald's.
So they are playing Marseille...
Yupp
interesting match
Lens still standing strong despite the injuries
Thats what depth is for
True lmao
No need to watch, lens is winning it
Guys, how good is luka vuskovic from hsv
Pretty good. 6'4", good ball-player and dueller
we should sign him
Liverpool? you'll want someone more established than that
MVP of the season so far
according to bundesliga website
seems to have alot of potential
Exactly
more of a substitute uno
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One of the best scoring cbs itw last season at westerlo, Tottenham have a gem in their hands
HE IS BACK!!!
Confirmed by the Aktobe
OFFICIAL!!!!
FREEDOM
So my predictions for ucl
Man City wins it
Idk why but gut feeling ig
And they have an amazing squad Thats eventually gonna come back from injury
City? I don’t really think so man
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Ayy nice
Pep's time is over
reached his limits with nothing more to offer
neither do I.
The Premier league is not a joke
Ucl race
The premier league just keeps on getting competitive each season which is what makes it great
That wrexham winner was crazy
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real
Okay
I have something to say
FBref and Stathead are dead, they can't show advanced data anymore.
The real reason isn't gambling sites thinking it gives people too much information.
well it is partly that but
the main reason is because Opta and FIFA are willing to sell their stats to gambling sites
🙂
fifa always looking for a way to get more money
games gone
game's definitely gone
created by the poor, stolen by the rich
@flat moth since I saw almost nobody talking about it, maybe we should talk about it here (I'm not forcing you btw).
Personally I could pay to have access to FBref or Stathead because I use it all the time. But it won't even be possible.
Yesterday I wanted to debate about Barcola vs Kvara. My arguments were that Barcola was a better ball carier and created more dangerous actions. I had absolutely no way of doing that. I checked and there is no site available that shows that anymore.
I also need to say that it is a HUGE downgrade for women's football. Since games' videos are harder to find (fewer channels pay for it), advanced stats were absolutely crucial for recruiters and for fans to analyze players.
Since this server contains a lot of football nerds, I think it could be a cool thing if we could alert people about that.
I use transfermarkt, fotmob or sofascore for my arguments
Yeah its certainly a very big loss for football fans & analysts across the globe, especially women’s football fan as fbref was the only website with high quality women’s football data
What do you want to alert people to though
That many pieces of media (like the Athletic) are not gonna talk about it because they're gonna pay Opta to still have access to this data. So there is intended disinformation so that nobody (at least nobody important) complains about it.
For me, this is scandalous and very few people are aware about it yet, so we should start encouraging propaganda to claim FBref back. Even if it doesn't bring Fbref back, at least more people will be aware of what happens and this might be what's really important.
It's really very sad
Transfermarkt doesn't use advanced data. If you watch all the games of your club you could write down what is given on this platform (except for players' value)
Fotmob has a lot of things but it doesn't have progression data
It's thanks to FIFA btw
Transfermarkt😭😭😭
What do you use it for in arguments brother
It just has g/a data largely
the only advanced things they show is goals scored on penalties but if you watch every game you could do that by memory
That too their assists model is wrong as it counts pens won as assists
Yeah you are more than welcome to raise awareness amongst people on the topic & tell them how FIFA just bowed down to billionaires
I use it for positional argue and injury data
yeah it shows injury data that's true
Ohh true
It has injury data yeah
& lists players position by matches played
The top assist leaders by age in 21st century
Messi 💀
Aged well
Told yall marseille was winning
That was obvious
Tsk oreilly and greenwood didnt even start
It cld hv been worse
I turned off my tv 15 min into the match
Exactly
Not for some people
And Lens was actually the favourite going into this match
His career post 2021 forever gonna have a what if tag
Btw has any of you guys spotted a player outside of a football match
my dad met iniesta once
I saw messi walking ye
in frankfurt?
oh thought messi was looking for a big club to play for
🗣️ FIFA President Gianni Infantino:
“For the first time in history, no Brit was arrested during the World Cup (2022), this is something really special…” 🏆
Bro has lost the plot
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Not me but my brother saw xabi Alonso outside once
Then he met some Gladbach Player and a Belgium natio player too
So random
Rio Ferdinand was a regular visiting my Dad's cousins coffee shop in North London.
He has been there maybe 4 or 5 times
, is your dad vidic or what?
I mean not in a bad way or something but it’s unbelievable
Its a coffee shop, he makes really nice food and its close to where he used to live
¡Aupa Atlético!
@flat moth vini pfp 😭
☝️🇧🇷
From raphina to vini 😭
He jinxed rapinha so he had to change it
Now he finna jinx vini
Oh ok, good for you bro, you are lucky
Ladies and gentlemen we got fooled once and again

Let’s see if he can translate it over to lower level opposition
If he does he may just persuade me
ole era all over again
If he gets a ucl spot permanently keep
carrick still needs to improve his possession game.... we can only go so far with counter attaking football with hardly any possession
but love the way are pressing and maintaining a compact formation when we lose the ball
come on 😭
its literally arsenal and mci
?? nothing like ole he has meaningful coaching experience lol
fairs but this guy is clearly a brilliant strategist
well fair
ig we will come to know against fullham next
anything can happen in a single game
he is fundamentally a good manager we can already see that
ofc this is also just two games we will adjust our estimation accordingly as more games happen
grow up
immaterial
Maturity, not literal size lol
Ik
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Man u should trust this man
Carrick will fix man u
Might be one of the mentally strongest players in football history. Got so much respect for him to bounce back after everything that’s been thrown at him..
Quoting 11tial (@11tial)
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Harry Maguire vs Arsenal 25/26 (A)
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︀︀MOTM performance 🧱
Why does everything have to be so hyperbolic
Kept his head down and focused on the sport.
adds weight to the statement
insane catalouge
but too one footed at the same time
Goated defender
is it just me or does perez feel like an evil villain
I remember a member comparing him to a James Bond villain years ago on the server as well lol
Around 2021 during peak super league discussions
Found it lol
All of the clubs bar juve, barca & madrid had left it in 2021 due to backlash instantly
Juve left it around 2023
Barca in 2025
Madrid are the only club still actively supporting it I think
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i still never really understood what the super league was about
money
not being part of the UEFA means you can make up your own tv contracts, marketing stuff whatever
Gatekeeping
why did the fans not want it?
i guess it depends on which fans you ask but mostly the agreement is that football right now is already greedy enough
Yesterday was a very important day for benfica
Eusebio would have been 84yo
And it was also 22 years ago that Miklos Feher left us
Local fans didn't like the idea of their club no longer playing in their domestic league, and also plans to play matches abroad.
makes sense
Funny that the 3 most corrupt clubs were the only 3 to remain
Barca left cause they couldn't afford the admission fee 
🕊️
one day when i am filthy rich if real madrid becomes privatised i will bring the club down to lowest tier of spanish football
That's crazy
Getting kicked out by third and 2nd division clubs in Copa del ray and using penalties to not be the Manchester united of la liga is probably the lowest Spanish football goes 💀
big boys think they're too good for the rest of clubs
I hope your dreams come true and I will be waiting for that day brother
I’m PRAYING your dreams come true
If you need support I’m always available
Trust
I will also be waiting for you 😁
This shit is worse than super league
Nice tackle grizou
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IMO the greatest defensive performance of all time. Baresi did all this with an injured knee. https://youtu.be/boPQNpPvJq0?si=Hl32Jzy4U8DhW6JP
At 34 years of age, Franco Baresi's dream of winning the World Cup as captain lay in tatters as he limped off the field against Norway in the first round with a knee-injury. Surgery was needed. The Milan-legend made a remarkable recovery and was declared fit on the day of the Final. Coach Arrigo Sacchi did not hesitate but added his captain to t...
https://fxtwitter.com/wolverinethumbs/status/2015830035232387142
you guys ready for the World Cup?
Ah yes to stop all those illegal immigrants that can *checks notes* afford Super Bowl tickets
Quoting Richy (@bettemup1)
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ICE to conduct immigration enforcement at Super Bowl LX at Levi's Stadium, official says.
One of the greatest world cup finals in history
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good god we are so cooked
We probably not even gonna play the wc
Germany is planning to pull out
What are the chances that this won't happen at the wc
And it won't be a complete shit show
Are they really?
Good
Tbh it's not just germany anyways
Well, the rumours suggest that, so yeah
I wouldn't be surprised honestly
Countries like Haiti, ivory coast, Iran, Senegal are on a travel ban list
it's not really considered
and tbh the german federation and actually no one cared in 1978, 2018 and 2022 either
why do big clubs rate morata so much?
not happening
unfortunately
One of em in football chat said this masterpiece:Levante would farm the EPL easly. I am glad this chat exists 🙏
I like Morata. He always put in a shift, even played out of position for Allegri. He's a decent striker who gets way too much hate. Also scored a goal in 2014/15 semis 2nd leg against Madrid in a high tension match
Good general play overall
Despite the inconsistent finishing
money laundering
Tactical player they love his profile
W
Idk about this one chief 😬
🇩🇪 Miroslav Klose: "I’m sure my goal-scoring record at the World Cup will be broken soon. Either Messi will do it at this World Cup, or at the latest Mbappé at the next one.
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︀︀"I’m a big fan of Messi and I wish him all the best if he keeps playing. But Mbappé also has incredible talent. I hope both of them stay healthy and can perform at their highest level.
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︀︀"In any case, I believe I still have the highest number of World Cup wins and I’m the only player who has played in four semifinals.”@BILD
florian wirtz carrying germany on his back this world cup i am calling ut
so nunez-esq
Similar case yeah
But he was better than Nunez at his peak I would say
Inconsistent finisher
But his general play outside of that was always solid so coaches & clubs were always willing to bet on him
In his 2nd Real Madrid spell he had the 2nd best goal ratio in la liga only behind messi lol
Was playing mostly as a backup or rotation option
But was his best season scoring wise
Made Chelsea spend 60-70 million on him back then
A better Nunez yes
Morata scored today lol
Its also known that he has mental health issues which impacts his game
Scored 15 started 14
Morata is basically the Spanish Daniel Ríos
Was reliable for everything except scoring
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thats crazy
60-70 mil was alot back then
now we get overrated
players
Yeah
Morata a great litmus test player to see who actually watches games and understands the sport.
2017 was the window was sort of the year it trivialised due to the Neymar deal
Still though yeah Chelsea had decided to bet on him
After that season at Madrid
Cook Hani
what was it 200m?
222m euros
& in pounds i think it was 198-199 something
oil money really ruined football
Yeah it was literally a fuck off release clause
Every player under la liga rules must have a release clause so Barcelona had just put 222 million for neymar as a “fuck off”
PSG actually went ahead & activated it😭😭😭
Since then La Liga clubs nowadays put 500 million - 1 billion for players they dont want to sell anymore
God knows maybe some saudi club activates one of them one day
its genuinely crazy
Happy birthday GOAT
Nah I think there's a hard ceiling well below that
Football industry is valued under €55b
not really
remember when al hilal tried to pay 1 billion so that mbappe could play there for a season
i’ll give it 5-10 years
It'll be in bitcoins in the future. 
That was a salary+transfer fee total
still
Yeah I mean inflation adjusted
one season tho is mental
it was a bit of a joke I'm
they would not have gone through with it
Also, a lot of Saudi spending was to win the WC bid
they will never spend like that again ever I don't think
Not really. Saudi can only bid for 2034 WC and upwards. Fifa made a rule that the same Confederation/region cannot host more than once within 12yrs. So Saudi might even push it forward further to promote their football.
anyways is that really a problem when you can just bribe gianni the infant
Saudi doesn’t care about profit though
Its all about PR & Image boost for them
2034 alone is a huge PR boost
that's my point
Go and compare Saudi spending before and after they won the 2034 bid
Yeah, that and many of their objectives with this spending isn't being fulfilled, except for the 2034 WC which they already won. They don't care about profit but won't just keep spending indefinitely without fulfilling any of their objectives
Prob cause other leagues are also spending more money. In terms of transfers, at least. Of course Saudi attracts players due to the high wages and no tax heaven.
You misunderstand me. A lot of their spending was in order to win that 2034 WC bid, now that it's virtually won, they've reduced their expenditure
Haven't followed much of the transfer news lately. But they did still offer Bruno for 100mil last summer. So prob would have done the same all over. Though rn it might be easier to snap up players who have run down their contracts and offer them high wages instead.
Forget offers
they also offered 125 for Salah
Check what they've actually spent
It's far reduced and they immediately implemented more strict foreign player rules
That's from the backlash of fifa and football fans overall, I think.
They don't care about that lol
If i told myself in 2016 that my club world take a 28 year old player from europe back home for 42 million i’d laugh my ass off saying that’s ridiculously far from reality.
Guess time really does come by, my god
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/2016494681115292049?s=46
But you're saying they won't spend as much, which is proven wrong, seeing as they're still offering 100+mil for players. The problem is that the players they bid for, are not interested in going there.
How the heck can Flamengo affoed 42mil on a player?
We’re a titan in south america, no joke in 2025 we’ve earned around 330 million euros
Oh wow. Didn't know that. Crazy how money is revolving in football around the world.
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Was club world cup a huge factor for it
Or libertadores & Brasileiro has also has seen Increased revenue lately
Yeah, not just money but the general management scheme adressed by flamengo is something that has been on the works since 2016, when we spared a beefy and expensive team for rearrangements related to the ammount we had in debt, then since 2019 we’ve blasted off the charts in nearly every single aspect
Honestly no, this has been going on since long before that, we’re just haversting what we’ve been growing ever since the whole new management scheme set in place
So largely sponsorships & match day revenue?
Still i stand by that the Club World Cup is the coolest thing ever
Yes but at this point Flamengo are able to sustain themselves without those, accounting the ammounts we already make from
-Signings
-Transmissions on our own channels for people outside of brazil
-Supporter Members
Are these 3 points you mentioned the main source of this much income for Flamengo
Or are they additional factors to sponsorships/matchday revenue you mean
Mostly, sponsorships also come in big considering the entire bet ecosystem within club sponsors however i can say matchdays are also among the main incomes, even though we don’t own our stadium since we loan the maracanã, but a stadium for flamengo is in the works as we speak
Oh nice
Will be the stadium outside or in the suburbs of rio though
Rio seems pretty full right now in terms of infrastructure & buildings
However i must say that after Flamengo finishes their stadium Fluminense won’t be able to sustain maracanã for themselves considering the empty seats whenever they play there and just general operating costs mostly landing on the back of flamengo
@eager lance
It’ll be around the Gasometro region, and from as far as i can tell if traffic around the stadium doesn’t get reworked then it’s going to be probably one of the most extreme hazards around the entire country
Oh damn
Has the internet in fluminense fallen off recently?
They were pretty hyped in 2023 especially with that diniz ball & libertadores win
For example, Atlético MG’s Arena MRV is located in a more distant area from the centers, while flamengo is taking this area to build their stadium
Diniz got sacked afterwards i know
But didn’t think the clubs whole hierarchy will crumble so soon
I see
Yes totally, they’ve always been a mid range club that heroically landed in the finals just like botafogo, after they won their stuff it’s like it never happened
They just don’t show up in their stadiums for anything else
Because like i said, they’re mid range clubs
Unfortunately for them the lack of decent management does come at a huge cost, because after they won their business the cost came by their sales on the remaining assets they had due to lack of structure and integrity regarding payments and business with player loans, images and etc
summer 24/25
summer 25/26
Summer 23/24, which is when they syarted to go mad. Before this transfer expense for arrivals was around 30mil
Yep exactly
late 2023 is when they won it
What exactly? They won the bid for WC in december 2024
And it shows in 25/26 summer window, even though they've won the bid, they still spent more money than in 24/25.
No, it was virtually done in Dec 2023
further formalities in 2024
only marginally, and 24/25 had a higher overall spend (transfers + wages)
200mil is not marginally. That's the avg spending budget of an english club.
Both are way lower than 23/24 and you ignored the second part of what I said
Yea, that's where they went crazy mad for one season.
I pray Benfica win
Mou ain't it now 🥀
I believe he is unbeaten in the league tho
Crashed out of cup sadly
Because he tries too hard to be cool
Maybe he just likes those celebrations more
Although I would personally pick anyone’s cwlebrations over Ronaldo’s
Just a kid
2 wins from benfica 1 win from real madrid
WIRTZ GOALL
But he’s Ronaldo so that makes them not the best
Arsenal/Bayern vs PSG/Madrid
very likely quarterfinals
As of now
🍿
Nvm inter scored
Psg out of top 8 now
😭
But that means we can see a madrid/inter vs psg ro16
What a way to qualify to playoffs for benfica
Time is up simeone
Who do you want to replace him with
Assuming you are an atleti fan
As I have always seen futre as your pfp
(Or thats just because you like futre?)
Mental💀💀💀
English teams are so good
Mind you chelsea , liverpool and Tottenham have been ass💀
I don’t think theres any disputing that premier league has the most amount of high quality sides in Europe
Over the last 2 decades infact
No other league has had 3 different ucl winners in the last 10 years
& none has had 4 different ones this century
Bar Premier League
Spurs would be higher had kulusevski and maddison not been injured
Low quality era
Im more of a neutral but alright Simeone lead atleti to 2 league titles Uefa supercup Europa league and a few other trophies 2 ucl finals but time is up he reached his limits with nothing new to offer he built the club from dirt in the end all eras come to an end
Atleti is stuck doing the same thing over and over
Barca and Madrid won’t always have a season to forget to win the league
right now the most logical replacement is filipe Luis
They fall off hard once he leaves IMO
The quality he's built may keep them in the CL for a little while, but they'll just fall off
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I think simeone is partly to blame but in general the squads have barely improved since 2021 either
So i don’t know who can or will do better than him
8 Champions League Campaigns.
4 Group Stage Exits
2 Knockout wins:
2012/13 away to Celtic
2012/13 home to Celtic
Antonio Conte.
Let's gooo chelsea showing up when it counts 
If Lyes says Conte is bad in the CL, I think Conte is a great CL coach
Chelsea huge contributors to it of course yeah with 2012 & 2021
If we extend the filter to ucl finals over the last 20 years
6 different PL teams played in the ucl finals
La Liga 3
Serie A 3
Bundesliga 2
France 1
PL has definitely been the overall best league in Europe since the collapse of Prime Serie A
better take a risk atleti got quality
Should Maximize alvarez
2021 barca and madrid were struggling lets not forget atleti won the leauge with 2 points ahead of Madrid
This club can compete
I don't Atleti need to take a risk
Simeone has overachieved, and has them 3rd again. What's their to gain? People genuinely think Atleti will win more titles with someone else? The coaching market is dross.
Yeah thats what they are capable of & did what the opportunist arised
Same case right now though i find the squad building a bit funny
With whom?
I don’t think cholo is still at his peak,
But I don’t see any coach increasing this teams ceiling or even floor for that matter either
I'm really not sure why fans of other leagues argue this
To build any kind of coalition to reduce the PL's financial dominance you have to admit that it actually makes a difference in footballing outcomes
Villarreal 4th in La Liga even with Kairat 😭?
Kairat are not in La liga
I think most of the good managers are now already gonna retire and not many greats left
Despite spending more than 300 million last two seasons they are heading to their second consecutive Trophyless season
Any other manager would have been sacked
Their Star Player wants to leave now
With interest from other European clubs
They are competing against barca and real domestically and ucl is not plannable for any team
Expectations towards many teams are just not realistic
“Competing”

You know exactly what I mean
Last season They were out of all comps in February
This season 2/4 so far
feb around the corner
It's not about titles all the time for most clubs
I don’t Hate them Just Simione’s tactics
You don't have to like him to appreciate their achievements
He had Julian Alvarez playing as a cm lb lm cam cdm cb
Anywhere but striker
😑😔
He’s ruined almada
Both of them could leave in the summer
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He played Julian Alvarez as a CB and CDM?
?!
Saudi copa vs real
Absurd take and just shortsightedness
Kids and glory hunters just don't get it
one thing good about atleti is that they keep trusting their manager to do great things
and they're right tbh
I don't get how bodo glimt manage to draw against weak team but beat almost every strong team they face
Darm
The magic happened last night
It was in the closing stages of the game
aha
Ascensio and rodrygo acted like divas
Surprise surprise
So they got 2 yellows in a row
My god , pep is really mad
Bruno Fernandes meanwhile
But there’s a typo it should be spurs logo instead of Liverpool logo on harry kane
He is talking about simeone
🤦
& thats a lie/massive exaggeration as well
Yh its funny
Sorry
man what does this even mean
Barcelona/Chelsea will play one of psg/newcastle/monaco/qarabag in round of 16
Liverpool/Spurs will play one of juve/atleti/gala/brugge in round of 16
& so on
will it be like juve v atleti and gala v brugge and then the winners player against liv or tot
yes
Opposite
Juventus & Atleti are higher seeded teams
So they will play gala or brugge each
Winner of both the games then will get drawn to Liverpool/spurs
Juve and Atleti will be drawn against Brugge and Galatasaray.
Liverpool and Spurs will be drawn on to a side of the draw. Then the 2 match ups drawn above will be drawn in to a side of the draw.
i understand now
thanks
thank you
Change is needed simeone reached his limits
There’s good talents almada baena alvarez barios
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8 points behind
I don’t rate Almada or Barrios as ceiling raisers of any kind to be blunt
Baena sure
One of the better creators in Europe
Yet he feels heavily misused
Alvarez baller as well most of the time
Despite the goal drought at present
But thats still not enough to compete with Barcelona or Madrid at present
Atleti have reached their limits. The floor is a long way down.
thanks josé
feeel like benfica gonna go deep in the champions leageu
lmao
I am saving this
can't be saying this just because they beat us
we're probably going out early tbh
no ive been thinking this ever since mourinho joined them
They are gonna play inter or madrid in the playoffs
Lets see what happens next matteo Alemany joined as the new sporting director
I am really curious in baena’s fall off
Haven’t looked deeply into it yet
At Villarreal he was one of the best creators in Europe
But seems rather uninspiring at Atletico
Atleti isn’t the perfect club for him
Yeah probably doesn’t fit the system
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Clermont Foot <t:1769799600:t> Stade de Reims
Grenoble <t:1769799600:t> Amiens
Laval <t:1769799600:t> Pau
Montpellier <t:1769799600:t> Guingamp
Rodez <t:1769799600:t> Red Star
SC Bastia <t:1769799600:t> Nancy
National:
Chateauroux <t:1769797800:t> Le Puy
Concarneau <t:1769797800:t> Bourg en Bresse
Dijon <t:1769797800:t> Stade Briochin
FC Fleury 91 <t:1769797800:t> Paris 13 Atletico
Quevilly <t:1769797800:t> Villefranche
Aubagne <t:1769797800:t> AC Ajaccio
Sochaux <t:1769797800:t> Rouen
Versailles <t:1769797800:t> Caen
So far this season 3 g/a in 20 games
Yeah while in Villarreal he was putting absurd stats for creativity week in & week out
Yh he was a demon at Villarreal
wow
baena and pino both struggling after leaving villarreal lol
shocking but atleast barry has found momentum
happy new day chat
i shall be stalking ts channel
in different channels 
oh
shi
wipuld get claimed in seconds in fb chat
yeah
😭
u alr have nitro
tbf, baena has had three injuries this season
Fitness may also be an issue yeah
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Why are you pinging everyone here
3 other players not even in the frame 💀
wait 2 others
mbappe...
5 wall + gk + mbappe + 1 =8
how do u not get this
and 1 red at that time
mbappe is staying high in case of counter
We cooked them
madrid desperately needed a goal
trubinn 🗣️ 🔥
but they are dominated in the box
one player up in that situation is enough, not 3
unc still got it
to think they were on 9 men too
if they concede its irrelevant
cinema
for them
mourinho ball in 2026 is crzy tho
it was mbappe who was not in th frame 😭
vini just standing there and i think the other one outside the wall is brahim
of course it's those 3 😭😭
"Sir alex is only European champion in this country"
Prime mourinho was that guy couldn't tell me otherwise
New Daily Question:
ffs
arsenal hype needs to end
Opta needs to end this prediction gimmick
80% odds to win every game is insanity
I have a good call for Kerim Alajbegovic after yesterdays performance
He will be one of the greatest in the future
The stats that mean absolutely nothing
This winner % gimmick is just betting fodder
yeah because opta shit
win% in each match i guess, they havent even mentioned the mechanism lmao
sophisticated markets are a lot less optimistic regarding arsenal
I want as winner any of Atleti Sporting Spurs or Dortmund
decent chance tbf
Can you make up your mind?
why is arsenal that high
opta’s predictions are actually pretty sound statistically
there’s not really a better way to do it
the model basically generates probability distributions for each match based on the team’s power rank and betting odds, runs tens or hundreds of thousands of monte carlo simulation matches, and then counts the outcomes
Nope
They're far less accurate than the markets historically
Yeah but it's shit
They don't do it well
538 used to do it with the exact same simulation frameworks
And they outperformed the markets
Shame they stopped their soccer operations
that's not what i said
Have them as favourites as well
But less odds than opta yh
Hold on a minute liverpool i front of us
All day
Alright so anyway if you're not aware Opta predictions are considered a joke in analytics circles because they're so bad
Yep ofc they're favourites
30% is just ridiculous though
Predicting that they have a 70-80% to win in each round
Yeah overestimating heavily
Arsenal are the best team in Europe rn
But they aren’t that crazy of a super team
They are the favourites
But they aren’t unbeatable/not super heavy favourites
what is my man doing
That has to be fake
Crazy
ramos is gonna get smoked
I dont see any official confirmation on their socials still
How
It's true
I don’t see any post on this matter from Sergio Ramos, Andrew Tate or Misfits boxing 
Till official confirmation not taking such audacious stuff seriously
Understood
"analytics circles" 😂
His career has been so random since leaving Madrid lol
Funniest thing being that in the middle of all this he still managed to be the best player at 2024 Copa América
Wtf is this baloney?
#LFC 🔴
Inter Milan are in talks to sign Curtis Jones on loan from Liverpool with an option to buy. We hear something has happened behind the scenes between Jones and Arne Slot.
31/01
Ligue 1 McDonald's:
Paris FC <t:1769788800:t> Olympique de Marseille
FC Lorient <t:1769882400:t> FC Nantes
AS Monaco <t:1769889900:t> Stade Rennais
Ligue 2 BKT:
Dunkerque <t:1769864400:t> Annecy FC
Troyes <t:1769864400:t> Le Mans
AS Saint-Etienne <t:1769886000:t> Boulogne
National:
Valenciennes <t:1769877000:t> Orleans
tate is a professional 
Out of topic but he lost recently
Yh that's my opinion too
you can lead a horse to water...
How are we and PSG below Chelsea here.
Chelsea fucking won 1-0 against Pafos at least we statpad against the minnows.
Wait.
I remember this chart.
I used to think I was better than Antony.
Opta shit
@round estuary much better representation
What's this.
A lesson in irony stands: Most often those who invoke the Dunning-Krüger effect do not realise where they fall in that chart
Sophisticated betting markets with no bookmaker's edge
They aren't cleaned tho so not 100% reliable
I still think PSG is much better than us, Mayulu and Mbaye evaporated that defense, the only plus I see is if we start Cancelo we get an offensive edge.
In Yamal I believe though so there's that.
Cancelo is a monster
A lot of deficits but if you can cover for them (which most can't) his sheer technical level is elite++
He delivered more crosses in his debut than Balde.
(In Balde's whole season)
salt found on dinner table
Baldé is a carrier tbf but lmao
i’ve got a pretty good idea
Balde can improve his offense later.
If he can improve his delivery he'll be in the top ones.
it's a football server buddy leave the psycho-analysis and philosophy at the door. Opta predictions are shit and that's that
Defense barely can improve on him.
what a great, nuanced take on a statistical model
Yep it is
Nuno Mendes is the ball carrying of Balde defending of Calafiori and has a good output on top.
If a model is shit, then it's shit
Why is it shit? -> brutally underperforms compared to actual good models and sharp markets
every year, millions of people shout at nate silver and the like, proving that they know very little about numerical analysis or stats
it is what it is
The irony in you bringing up Dunning-Krüger 😆
smarter and more educated than you’ll ever be, no need to condescend
More childish assumptions 😆
i was able to make the assumption when you made a category error about a statistical model and completely oversimplified it because you have no clue how it works
I'm not gonna get into a credentials battle on a discord football server but it's pretty funny how presumptuous you are with so little knowledge
It's not illegal to oppose authority and brand names, be more critical!
i’m down for a credentials battle
is he the messi of jordialbas?
It's fine, if in case you have a brand name or two you think is impressive on your resume, it'll just make me think even less of its products than I already do
He can be the Messi of Left Backs to be fair.
Excluding Maldini of course.
true
forever doomed in the lower echelon of society but at least you get to be against the “brand names”
I have a little guilt of the bourgeoisie so I wouldn't mind that but I'm curious as to how many more assumptions you can make that are polar opposites to reality
Quick reminder that none of this will make Opta Analyst a decent product respected by anyone with any knowledge in the space
thankfully i never made any claims about the accuracy or quality of the opta model in practice
in that case, you revealed how misinformed you are about what value is even added by sensitivity analysis
i simply claimed that the opta model is statistically sound, because it is, by every definition of what it means to be statistically sound; i didn’t say anything about parameterization or the quality of assumptions
you just replied with “Nope” and confused performance against the betting market with what it means to be statistically sound
That is fairly superficial though
Any semi-competent junior data analyst can conjure up a "statistically sound" model
sure, my claim was narrow but correct, yet you refuted it
I gave you the benefit of doubt by engaging with an actual meaningful input but fairs
still arguing about opta predictions
Calafiori is not that excellent of a wide defender tbh
He's their 3rd CB, that's what people say.
Sometimes yes but typically he gets wide attacking license
0.18 xG p90
Crazy high
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Bodo are still in pre-season?
yeah, they're winning the treble
Their league runs from March to December I think
So they have January & February as free usually
Bodo winning a treble before Real Madrid?
Perhaps
Most scandinavian leagues run on a different footballing calendar I think
probably because of the cold
They choked the league title to us and didn't win the cup.
Putting the 0 in Bodo
what if Bodo wins the Champions League?
its game day
newcastle facing liverpool
Hooray 😭
a mix of emotions i see 
i will probably be watching chelsea vs west ham
New Daily Question:
Yo
@dusty totem
Noo aubameyang club didn't win
but Paris fc are my favourite Ligue 1 club so its okay
How are those the biggest games right now
Full time Paris FC 2 - 2 Marseille
kept his legs up wonderfully
do we think pissg loses to strasbourg and lens go back to leading ligue 1
etikitkikitike
Shinji Kagawa closed the deal?
01/02
Ligue 1 McDonald's:
Olympique Lyonnais <t:1769954400:t> Lille OSC
Angers SCO <t:1769962500:t> FC Metz
OGC Nice <t:1769962500:t> Stade Brestois 29
Toulouse FC <t:1769962500:t> AJ Auxerre
RC Strasbourg Alsace <t:1769975100:t> Paris Saint-Germain
fr its genuinely not evenmutin me
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Hi
my avg winger 🔥
https://x.com/statmusefc/status/2017693595147366863?s=46
Apparently I'm back lol
New Daily Question:
Why didn't Villa just score a low xG goal? I thought all this didn't apply to them?
GOAL — Nice 0 - [1] Brest
Del Castillo transforms the penalty
GOAL — Nice 0 - [2] Brest
GOAL — Angers [1] - 0 Metz 🟥
Louis Mouton.
Angers subs:
Ekomié & Belkebla OUT
Hanin & Djibirin IN
Metz subs:
Munongo, Hein & Ballo OUT
Deminguet, Touré & Colin IN
GOAL — Nice [1] - 2 Brest
Abdi (Clauss)
FULL TIME — Toulouse 0 - 0 Auxerre
TOULOUSE FAILED TO GET 5TH!
FULL TIME — Angers 1 - 0 Metz 🟥
Angers gets 3 points against 10 men Metz who are last.
The Spanish National Soccer Team Selects Baylor School as Training Basecamp for Summer 2026!
Baylor and Chattanooga are Officially on the Global Football Map!
Spain's lauded futbol/soccer team will train at Baylor School in Chattanooga, TN!
i swear this is the first time something like this has happened
1ST HALF — Strasbourg v PSG
Goodbye, O'Riley 🫡
Everyone is leaving Marseille...
can that one bum leave
I don't know why and how, but I see what you mean by "that one bum"...
just need him to leave and fuck off to saudi
FUCK PISSG
MAN OF THE MATCH — Safonov (PSG)
Hi do remember me?
I filled the chat 😭
But yeah I will stop.
With absolutely nothing that will encourage other chat
Just scores
Should I delete everything?
Nah
Ok.
#him
we all know who that guy is
I respect the passion and dedication icl
Hard-core Nationalist
Zenit St. Petersburg is negotiating to sign Jhon Duran on loan with option to buy after the move to Lille fell through. The player has given a positive response. Clubs are nearing an agreement on salary distribution. No final agreement yet, but progress is being made
Russian Premier League?! , they still operate?
Greenwood?
Of course
they operate, just banned from european tours i think
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yo
thank you so much
so many times ive clicked off this channel thanks to the wall of forwarded scores none of which i care about
Their national team also still operates but just plays unofficial friendlies
thanks
They never stopped operating
Just got banned by uefa & fifa
So cant play in international tournaments anymore
They possibly may leave uefa in the future
& join AFC
so if a player suppose scores in the russian premier league will the goals be recognized by fifa and uefa?
No idea about that icl
Dk what their stance on stat keeping is
then why does jhon duran wants to move to zenit st. petersburg , didn't he join fenerbahce 6 months ago?
Salary probably
I didnt even know he came back 😭
New Suarez
8 game ban for doing a suarez
9 game ban for racism
Now more for headbutting
Its worse than that bro
Suarez was also racism
At least he didnt headbutt
Suarez without the generational talent
Just a horrible footballer and person a genuinely vile individual
just ban him completely atp
twat
Just googled that Owen Beck kid. His middle name is Michael. Parents must be a fan. 
owen beck?
swear he's related to ian rush
they were invited to participate in Central Asian Cup but refused
maybe next time
Are they still hopeful to get unbanned by UEFA or what
I mean the situation is going better in sports other than football and ice hockey. IOC allowed Russian youth athletes to participate with Russian flag and anthem and recommended other sports organizations to allow it. Volleyball said they will comply with IOC's request.
In many individual sports like Taekwondo etc., it has gone back to normal as well
Interesting 
Russia won the CAS appeal in bobsleigh, snowboard and skeleton so they can represent Russia fully in those sports
Chess chose to move to Asia but idk about professional chess so idk what's happening there
UEFA still sends money to Russia for the youth football development (not many around 3.5m euros per year) and Russian FA said multiple times it's better to stay in UEFA and negotiate
wow
I heard they are negotiating a possible roadmap for Russia's return but it was like 6 months ago. Altho that assumes a peace deal or any ceasefire deal signing is near.
they tried to unban Russia U-17s but they had political pressure after that so they withdrew it. Some UEFA countries actually ran a petition for returning Russia's youth NT in UEFA competitions like Greece, Kazakhstan, Montenegro etc.
Like hosting in neutral venues like Serbia, Azerbaijan, Hungary etc. with flag and anthem
I mean if Russia joins AFC, they will just become the worse version of Saudi Pro League and maybe equal to UAE and Qatari league. + there's no guarantee that UEFA nations will allow them to come back after the war anyway.
With the political situation I would be surprised if majority of countries in Europe every want to play with them in the first place
New Daily Question:
I’ve always wondered, how do players who are older than the manager address them? Also similar question but how do teammates where one player has become a manager address one another… for example morata and cesc fabregas
You still have to have respect
And I’m sure the whole former teammate thing helps with chemistry
personally i think since israel is still participating in UEFA competitons ( i am a neutral guy) , Russia should be allowed too
There’s still a mutual respect of authority when that happens. If an older player doesn’t see that then it could cause drama. But most of the time they know to respect the manager
makes sense
also, speaking of cesc fabregas