#football-lounge

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pallid basalt
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Hi

devout spear
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Bro never started in an ucl final

granite notch
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Hazard

little hedge
eager wasp
unborn jetty
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This doesn't really work because GTA titles are released late in the year when the next season already started

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So like San Andreas was released Oct 26th 2004 at which point the 04/05 season already started in which Chelsea won the Prem

south helm
heavy fjord
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Wait

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Real Madrid bought paz?

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For 9 millions

sterile jetty
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However

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...

hollow girder
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No

flat moth
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He was there academy player who they sold to Como with a buy back clause so that in case he turns out good they can get him back easily

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He turned out good so they activated their buy back option

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south helm
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Ik is stil e good player

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But we need efficiency

cyan egret
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And Vini don't guaranty this

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flat moth
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& he isn’t a 8

eager wasp
cyan egret
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Pointless to get him back

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flat moth
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So he can’t co exist with Jude

eager wasp
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what is FCSB

cyan egret
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Madrid is the worst club for development

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flat moth
flat moth
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FCSB local
& Madrid ucl team probs of his

fluid fox
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Romanian team from Bucharest

eager wasp
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I know that lol

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I've been to their stadium

south helm
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We dont have a good season Right now

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But we make a progress from summer

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Just need some new midfilders

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And a good Lb

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Our is old

past fern
inland plover
neon bloom
south helm
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The "Justice"

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Fk that

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They are represents the corupt system

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Where money is laundered on a grand scale

neon bloom
flat moth
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Probably the biggest achievement in whole of Romanian sports

neon bloom
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Like that ain’t ur whole history right

neon bloom
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neon bloom
south helm
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We give players like Hagi,Duckadam or more Recent like Nicolita and Rădoi

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We achive a Europa League Semi Final

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And we beat teams like Galatasaray,Ajax,Chelsea or Lazio

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Or Feeynord 3 weeks ago

inland plover
south helm
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He played for Craiova

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And he move to Ajax

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For 3 millions

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In 1999

inland plover
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i see

neon bloom
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❌ ❌ ❌

granite notch
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Sup

neon bloom
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Yo mate

edgy magnet
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One side of me is happy that yamal won the award but the other side of me is still sad that rapha didn’t win any single rewards

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Like yeah it’s awesome seeing yamal winning the best attackers in the world but rapha not winning a single reward or even mentioned or nominee is crazy

flat moth
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Barcelona fanbase & media are themselves to blame for it if anything

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They are the ones who chose to make yamal the posterboy over raphinha

lusty bay
radiant aurora
dire stratus
south helm
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If they believe evreything is against Barca

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They maked whit their hands

flat moth
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I wouldn’t really go around generalising fanbases as delusional as that comes across as low quality & toxic which is against the ethos of this channel

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But otherwise the pushing of Yamal over Raphinha by the whole of Barcelona fanbase & Media really did come across as a very wrong choice to me

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eager lance
neon bloom
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Barcelona is the biggest Yamal glazer

cyan egret
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Yamal glaze is justifiable

flat moth
flat moth
indigo knoll
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Puma really outdone themselves this time 🥶

flat moth
neon bloom
flat moth
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Shouldn’t have propped & decorated him more than raphinha & pedri

past fern
edgy magnet
ionic sail
terse sky
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egypt is so cheeks at finishing without marmoush and salah

radiant aurora
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The absolute embarrassment of riches football used to have. The 2000 Ballon d'or

1 Luís Figo
2 Zinedine Zidane
3 Andriy Shevchenko
4 Thierry Henry
5 Alessandro Nesta
6 Rivaldo
7 Gabriel Batistuta
8 Gaizka Mendieta
9 Raúl
10 Paolo Maldini
David Beckham
12 Zlatko Zahovič
Fabien Barthez
14 Francesco Toldo
Francesco Totti
Roberto Carlos
17 Patrick Kluivert
18 Edgar Davids
Hakan Şükür
Mário Jardel
Fernando Redondo
22 Pavel Nedvěd
David Trezeguet
24 Marcel Desailly
Oliver Kahn
Rui Costa
27 Laurent Blanc
Claudio López
Roy Keane
Juan Sebastián Verón

inland plover
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I know all of them bar Claudio Lopes, Sahovic

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sheva third

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feels like talent was way more distributed before

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last years ballon dor was so many psg, city and rma/barca

south helm
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How Owen win

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I will never understead

radiant aurora
radiant aurora
neon bloom
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Hooolaaaa

cold furnace
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Both lopes and zahovic played for valencia

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Lopes peak was lazio imo

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Zahovic peak was benfica

tropic flintBOT
wind parrot
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lol

half wolf
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What’s this

flat moth
half wolf
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I see

neon bloom
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Wth

polar timber
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yo

dire stratus
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yo

hexed python
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gurt

dire stratus
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wot

inland plover
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Man, i respect the ball knowledge going that back

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I wish I knew more about the early 00s

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past fern
worn marsh
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https://x.com/i/status/2006154869288427849

FIFA THE BEST it's the end. Dubai d'or and FIFA the best could be the same after this

🚨 OFFICIEL ! 𝗟𝗔 𝗙𝗜𝗙𝗔 𝗦’𝗔𝗟𝗟𝗜𝗘 𝗔𝗩𝗘𝗖 𝗗𝗨𝗕𝗔𝗜̈ 🇦🇪 𝗘𝗧 𝗠𝗘𝗧 𝗙𝗜𝗡 𝗔𝗨𝗫 𝗧𝗥𝗢𝗣𝗛𝗘́𝗘𝗦 "𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗕𝗘𝗦𝗧" 𝗗𝗘́𝗖𝗘𝗥𝗡𝗘́𝗦 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗤𝗨𝗘 𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘́𝗘 ! ❌

La cérémonie de la ...

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What do you think

flat moth
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Individual awards so drc

tropic flintBOT
bitter crypt
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How has Arsenal destroyed Villa yesterday

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That's so violent

modest sonnet
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Whats ts

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oh

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First class

fluid fox
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Less active but higher quality up here

dire stratus
flat moth
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Probably UAE government paying big bucks

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To get their award fifa branding & attention

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its not something new for FIFA either, they were partnered with Ballon D’or for 6 years in the past as well from 2010 till 2015

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Now they just gonna do it with Dubai D’or’s with probably some good money involved

neon bloom
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Hi

flat moth
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Hey

jovial frigate
bitter crypt
bitter crypt
bitter crypt
jovial frigate
cold furnace
bitter crypt
torpid halo
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HAPPY NEW YEAR

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It's a year of red horse

quasi atlas
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Hi

stark oriole
dusty totem
gritty agate
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Oh shit.

coarse imp
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World Cup year 🗣️🗣️

bitter crypt
neon bloom
blissful fulcrum
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outrageous

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does anyone even take these guys seriously?

lost dawn
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Which is crazy since my man also said cherki has more ability than mbappe

blissful fulcrum
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to say that vitinha has been the best player in the world from january to december is absolutely ridiculous; there were significant stretches where he wasnt even psg’s best midfielder, let alone the best player in the world

inland plover
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idk tbh

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barely watch psg

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for me, the best player in the leagues i watch is pedri and mbappe

lost dawn
inland plover
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for serie a idk the league is in shambles

lost dawn
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For that PSG side

inland plover
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morata (?)

lost dawn
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Boring af

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At least rn atm

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It’s just the poor results

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But they’ve been picking up

blissful fulcrum
inland plover
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yea valid

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i can see him losing motivation now that he won ballon

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lol

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slowly fadin away

umbral scaffold
feral smelt
flat moth
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Neves was better than vitinha for me as well

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Tougher & more hardworking role than vitinha’s

lost dawn
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Yeah, it’s not like he’s underrated he’s fairly rated I think but he’s overlooked

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Not nearly talked about as much as Vitinha

flat moth
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Vitinha is world class imo,
But his role at the same time in that psg side isn’t as crazy as its made to seem

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Neves on the other hand seems to be doing way more & yet doesn’t get same amount of praise

lost dawn
flat moth
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Yup

lost dawn
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You don’t notice him normally but when he’s not there, you notice

flat moth
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Yeah more or less

feral smelt
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BENFICA IS THE GREATEST CLUB IN THE HISTORY OF THIS SPORT Benfica

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happy new year !

bitter crypt
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Happy New year lol

indigo knoll
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Happy new years lads

tidal grove
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Happy new year!

stark oriole
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Happy New Year!
Feliz Año Nuevo!
bonne année!

mystic star
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happy january transfer window to those who celebrate

patent copper
pure steppe
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I will explain
Ousmane Dembele and Raphinhia unfortunately due to injuries have not kick-started the 25/26 season as well
Salah has not been at his best form
Kane and Haaland have started the 25/26 fiercly but we're talking about the entire calender year.

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Vitinha on the other hand, has been a constant performer all year round just like pedri, yamal and mbappe
So you can definately make an argument for him; hence saying vit is the best player of 2025 wouldn't be an invalid take in my opinion.

sly trench
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Since he's been the most consistent

pure steppe
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yes definately has a shout

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pedri, vit, yamal and mbappe i feel have been the only ones who were top-notch all year round

sly trench
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And then lamine, pedri, vitinha

eager wasp
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vitinha PR needs an award

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He's not even the best Portuguese midfielder in his own team

eager wasp
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The reason Mbappé is better than Cherki has nothing to with technical ability

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Gabriel Jesus has 10x technical ability of Erling

eager wasp
# sly trench Mbappe is the best player in 2025

I think it's Mbappé then Haaland then the rest. Haaland's closer to the 24/25 season was only okay but the lights out august-december gets him an easy second over the deep midfielders imo

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Yamal and Vitinha should not be in the conversation

pure steppe
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and we have to consider players who performed the entire year
if we're going just this season; then its easily haaland, mbappe and kane

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Pedri, Yamal and Mbappe performed from january to december imo

vagrant harbor
eager wasp
eager wasp
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Yamal 21 goals in 2025 tbf not as low as I thought fairs

flat moth
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& has had a good season so far as well

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Dembele sure
Just 6 starts after the club world cup

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Answer is Mbappe either way

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January-December he has been unmatched

cyan egret
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The best player of 2026 will be can uzun

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🔥

flat moth
cyan egret
flat moth
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Also

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Looks like it's 100% that he isn't staying

flat moth
cyan egret
flat moth
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Like Chelsea winning it last year felt like a stamp of formality instead of something worth clapping dor

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flat moth
cyan egret
cyan egret
shrewd fractal
cyan egret
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We have qualified for it like 3 times.

flat moth
cyan egret
flat moth
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Sacking so many managers with a squad full of children feels very stupid

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Sack & fire culture only works when you have experienced players

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With kids it will never work

shrewd fractal
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ego

cyan egret
flat moth
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In Abramovich’s time it worked because the team was full of elite talent

cyan egret
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#BlueCoOut

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🔥

flat moth
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😭

cyan egret
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Last time was

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16/17

flat moth
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Been 8 seasons
& will be 9 & probably 10 seasons definitely

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Better than Arsenal & United still

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Tho Arsenal can finally do it this year

cyan egret
flat moth
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People hate Arsenal so much they want a 7th title in 9 seasons for Citeh😂

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Funny times

cyan egret
flat moth
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Rest probably not

cyan egret
flat moth
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Probably not

cyan egret
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Oh aii

stiff narwhal
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Chelsea would be so dumb to sack Marseca

umbral scaffold
flat moth
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Nico Gonzalez

umbral scaffold
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I thought he was just a CM

eager wasp
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FAC is a much harder competition than UECL

flat moth
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Financial gap was so laughably humungous

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Billion Pound Chels in a competition with 10-15 million pound teams

flat moth
eager wasp
flat moth
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Tho a pep 6 is close enough to 8

eager wasp
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other than Chelsea ofc

flat moth
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& nico is naturally a 8 only

umbral scaffold
flat moth
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Strasbourh are top rn

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Of UECL

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Their B team gonna win it this year

eager wasp
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Palace 😂

flat moth
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Embarrassing stuff

flat moth
umbral scaffold
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Trust the process

dire stratus
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he should try to get back into form for the world cup atleast

flat moth
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Body just not it

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On ball maybe he can recover still

flat moth
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very likely

cyan egret
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He's leaving himself.

dire stratus
cold furnace
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i think he will leave in the summer

dire stratus
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lets see

flat moth
flat moth
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People still not fully realised yet

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& feel he can fully recover

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Maybe he can as well

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But unlikely rn

dire stratus
flat moth
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Pressing, tracking back, contributing defensively to your team etc etc

cold furnace
flat moth
dire stratus
flat moth
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Nico is competent enough

flat moth
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Best solution for rodri perhaps is a role change to a dlp or a 8

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As a 6 he won’t be probably be that good again as he was prior

dire stratus
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hmm fair it will be interesting to see what pep does with him now

flat moth
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Probably try him as a 6 for a while

dire stratus
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isnt he kinda fit rn ?

flat moth
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To see if he can still be as good

dire stratus
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he might be in the bench today

flat moth
dire stratus
umbral scaffold
devout spear
edgy magnet
formal fiber
cyan egret
formal fiber
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And I really don't get the sacking tbh, who do they plan to replace him with ?

cyan egret
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They didn't sack him.

formal fiber
cyan egret
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Toppmöller don't leave us mid season please.

cyan egret
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Had that ego problem.

edgy magnet
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Bro literally won them conference league and club world cup and they even decided to sack him after just few bad games

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I guess the only way to be a chelsea manger for a long time is winning every single trophy in football including international trophies

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cyan egret
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Even tho i dislike Maresca for being too stubborn, that he's leaving mid season.

formal fiber
cyan egret
formal fiber
cyan egret
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But i don't think the club should get him, Straßburg is running so bad.

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Chelsea has enough money to pull someone else out of the club.

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Like they did with potter after tuchel shit.

pure steppe
pure steppe
eager wasp
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Fairs pal

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WC year Mbappé is taking 2026 as well

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Haaland bros we will be back better in 2027

pure steppe
pure steppe
pure steppe
eager wasp
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on the balance of their careers Haaland has been just as if not more consistent

pure steppe
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Yes

eager wasp
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24/25 was just Haaland's worst ever season and he was injured also in early 2025

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His npg p90 is better than Mbappé in 2025

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but played 17 fewer games

pure steppe
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Thats impressive

past fern
eager wasp
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But yeah Mbappé is great

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Obviously

formal fiber
cyan egret
# formal fiber Is he good?

No, even if he was good, the club should have no rights to get their manager and treat them like some feeders club.

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Chelsea have enough money to get someone else out of the club.

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They should stop treating that club like it's nothing.

formal fiber
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They can easily get him cuz of that Blueco thing right

cyan egret
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That's exactly why I dislike the way they run/treat the club.

formal fiber
cyan egret
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Imagine if frankfurt was in the same situation as them.

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I would've crashed out.

cyan egret
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Poor fans

formal fiber
cyan egret
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They treat them like it's some random feeders club whose job is to just to get chelsea reserve.

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Have some shame BlueCo

formal fiber
cyan egret
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A good manager will come, then win something, and asks for an experience or something else, then leaves for having some disagreement.

lost dawn
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Chelsea want a manager that’s maleable

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That they can shape

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Which is very very bad

formal fiber
cyan egret
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You remember poch?

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That guy asked for two players and the management rejected it because they don't have resell value.

formal fiber
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I really did think Maresca could have done more for the club and stayed for few more years

neon bloom
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Eineshi vro

lost dawn
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This recruitment gimmick will be the downfall of their club

cyan egret
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I will get him to join frankfurt

neon bloom
cyan egret
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Is ajax above frankfurt in ucl?

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🤔

formal fiber
cyan egret
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He should join Frankfurt please

formal fiber
cyan egret
formal fiber
cyan egret
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We will treat Maresca well.

formal fiber
formal fiber
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If Frankfurt makes it to top 4 🤔

neon bloom
cyan egret
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We won't finish top 4 without him.

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Chelsea fans enjoyed it, let me enjoy Maresca ball as well 👀

lost dawn
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Idk how this and the whole city thing will work

formal fiber
cyan egret
umbral scaffold
cyan egret
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I'm fine if he's gonna stay for half season

cyan egret
lost dawn
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Exactly, so I doubt he’ll stay jobless for 1 year and a half

cyan egret
umbral scaffold
cyan egret
lost dawn
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Where are you in ucl

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👀

lost dawn
formal fiber
cyan egret
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That's why he should join frankfurt

neon bloom
cyan egret
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That's the point

formal fiber
neon bloom
cyan egret
neon bloom
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How much ucls do Brugge even have

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But the fact maresca got fired proves that Chelsea is a joke club

umbral scaffold
neon bloom
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cyan egret
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Ye that's what I thought mate

cyan egret
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But he left himself which is worse

torpid halo
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Christian Benteke has signed for Al Wahda

neon bloom
cyan egret
neon bloom
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We will next season

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You guys are unsure

eager wasp
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Stadium is a short drive away

hard wing
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Ig

dusty totem
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Liverpool drawing against Leeds.

neon bloom
dusty totem
blissful fulcrum
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he’s been consistent but not the best

pure steppe
blissful fulcrum
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kimmich, hakimi, pedri, haaland, etc are all in the conversation for me

neon bloom
hard wing
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Hell tbh hes always been lol 😭

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I feel like he doesn’t get enough flowers idk

neon bloom
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Kimmich one of the most if not the most consistent baller

flat moth
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Yup

inland plover
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he reminds me a lot of Lahm

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but opposed to Lahms int success, kimmich has had to deal with a struggling germany that hast failed time and time again

umbral scaffold
patent copper
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dire stratus
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i think he was injured for a game

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but managed to score when he started

tropic flintBOT
mystic star
terse sky
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genuine question, why wasnt the handball in germany v spain euro 24 not given?

shrewd fractal
lost dawn
dusty totem
stuck gulch
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Dumbest response to ban a player lmao

dire stratus
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he did not even play all the games 😭

neon bloom
tropic mango
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How could he!

narrow stone
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💔 Burkina Faso and Wydad player Aziz Ki received the news of the death of his 9-year-old son where he was playing a match with his schoolmates before he fell a painful fall in which his head hit the ground.
The player left Burkina Faso's camp in Morocco immediately

flat moth
flat moth
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Yh horrible moment for Germany

tropic mango
flat moth
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Yup

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Spain & Germany were only elite teams in 2024

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The winner of that quarter was deffo gonna win the whole thing

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Germany got unlucky due to refs

tropic mango
flat moth
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So it went to Spain

tropic mango
flat moth
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Deserved to be a final or at minimum semi final

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2024 Euros was pretty weak in general,
None of the big European nations looked good bar Spain & Germany

flat moth
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Yeah france were awful in 2024

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Still went to the semis somehow

tropic mango
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It's an insult to football to see them in the Semi final

flat moth
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Beat Belgium thanks to a og in ro16
& Portugal on pens in quarters😭

tropic mango
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90% of their goals were penalties

past fern
flat moth
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I think their only open play goal was in the semi final
(A game they lost)

lost dawn
flat moth
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Feel like they can win or go to the final again next year

In terms of depth & quality they are still the best

lost dawn
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They’re one of the favorites

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Olise, Mbappe, cherki, dembele

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That’s terrifying

flat moth
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3 world cup finals in a row 🔥

lost dawn
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Mbappe has the chance to make history

flat moth
lost dawn
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If he can replicate that World Cup 2022 form again

flat moth
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If they go to the final again

flat moth
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Messi aged tho
So better chances for mbappe

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Messi on 13 goals rn
Mbappe on 12

Klose on 16

lost dawn
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Yea mbappe can definitely break it

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He’s got more time

flat moth
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They have 3 high volume & high quality creators
& Mbappe

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The front 4 is nasty(if deschamps used that is)

lost dawn
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Knowing this guy deschamps

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Rabiot will be in midfield

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In this day and age

neon forum
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for those who are unaware (dont have the role)

flat moth
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In midfield

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But rabiot might very well start again hilariously

lost dawn
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Yeah it’s deschamps he’s got an obsession with him, even though there are much better options

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Honestly if the squad is good they will win it

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If no injuries happen

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Biggest question is Mbappe

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He’s been getting injured

flat moth
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I was thinking they needed a more creative 8 like Pogba

But cherki or olise as 10’s in a role similar to griezmann 2022 also fixes that problem i suppose

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Griezmann 2022 so underrated oddly enough

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Absolute creative monster

lost dawn
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He’s very overlooked imo

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Never gets the flowers he deserves

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Very unlucky as well

flat moth
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Workrate might be an issue

lost dawn
flat moth
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But I suppose their creativity is worth a shot

lost dawn
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So I don’t think it’ll be the biggest issue

flat moth
cyan egret
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Karl will be better than cherki soon

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He's the future

flat moth
cyan egret
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🔥

lost dawn
flat moth
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After final mbappe ofc
Cant talk much against a hatty

lost dawn
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And he players for Munich

cyan egret
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Bar the final

flat moth
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Griezmann 2018 got so much praise
But for me his 2022 campaign was clearly better😭

blissful fulcrum
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warren zaire-emery is the most likely answer to france’s 8 problem, don’t think he’s getting enough minutes to start over rabiot, who deschamps loves

cyan egret
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He was on par with messi in everything bar goals.

flat moth
lost dawn
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Mbappe’s the key for the success for France

flat moth
lost dawn
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If he’s not playing good I don’t think they go far

cyan egret
flat moth
cyan egret
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I guess mbappe got better after that tho.

flat moth
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Till semis griezmann was comfortably their best

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After that final performances mbappe

cyan egret
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Damn Griezmann started to become more of a complete player during his last stages for France nt

blissful fulcrum
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they obviously need a controller, but some of their responsibilities can be swept under the carpet because they have such elite chance creators in the 10 and on the wings

flat moth
south helm
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He's young and have more qualities than some midfielders much talked about by the Media

flat moth
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If deschamps uses them tho

flat moth
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Matuidi LW shifts😂🔥

south helm
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Hot take from me
Emery>Simmons or Olmo

blissful fulcrum
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i mean they dont need an elite controller who can playmake all over the pitch and create tons of chances, but they still need someone to organize the team in transitions

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someone who’s just a reliable passer, decent reader of the game, and a sufficient ball progressor

south helm
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But is not really good on attacking

blissful fulcrum
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my main concern with france is that they dont have someone who is going to be able to do this and they will end up looking very incoherent

flat moth
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Only teams which I look at & cant easily say problems for are Spain & England rn

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Tho I haven’t watched England games under tommy tuchel

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But on paper i don’t see any major flaws

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Wait maybe RB for Spain

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Carvajal’s knees seem done

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& I don’t rate porro ngl

south helm
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Evreyone on this team want to be the Star

blissful fulcrum
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llorente or pedro porro

south helm
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More then If we look at Spain or France

lost dawn
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Either he picks all the stars

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Or he picks an actual team

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There was so many convos being had just because Bellingham didn’t get picked for a friendly

flat moth
south helm
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The only teams I see capable of winning the World Cup are Spain, France or Portugal if Ronaldo doesn't start as a starter

flat moth
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I would be surprised if Portugal win even with ronaldo benched

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They have a good midfield & defence though

lost dawn
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Portugal are barely favorites, but Ronaldo is their only valid striker option

south helm
lost dawn
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I think they can go far, my heart says they make it to the final

flat moth
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Only way I see portugal winning is if they shithouse games & then score a goal or two on individual brilliance

lost dawn
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But my brain says quarters or semis

south helm
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Leao, if he's fit, will play alongside Vitinha

lost dawn
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It’s just Martinez

flat moth
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I just hope that Argentina Portugal quarter final doesn’t happen

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Rest idrc

lost dawn
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He should not be coaching

lost dawn
blissful fulcrum
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i don’t think portugal is great, but it seems pretty likely they could make semis just based on how ive predicted the groups to go and matchups

lost dawn
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It’s not that he makes the team worse, he scores, but everyone just feels obligated to pass to him or give him the ball

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It’s just the fact

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And that lowers the team performance

flat moth
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Would probably rank it like this rn

1 Spain
2 France
3 England
4 Argentina
5/6 Portugal/Germany
7/8 Brazil/Netherlands

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Spain/France/England being favourites level for me

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Argentina/Portugal/Germany teams who can probably win

blissful fulcrum
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a lot of people i know are putting brazil top 4 and i really just dont see it

flat moth
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Rest all near 0

lost dawn
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They have no leaders

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Not anymore at least

flat moth
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Always felt ancelotti will actually do amazing in international comps

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Brazil dont seem very good though

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He is a gaffer with basic tactical principles & peak man management so seems rather suited for international tournaments

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For teams which are stacked with big players

lost dawn
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Yea same reason he’s so renowned in the champions league

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Pure vibes and moments

flat moth
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Feels funny to me he has more UCL’s than SAF & Pep

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Yet SAF & Pep for me are very clearly superior coaches to him

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Man management is really magical i suppose😂

lost dawn
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The quality on display in this team’s was unmatched, like serial winners

flat moth
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Especially 2003, 2014 & 2022

lost dawn
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That and the spectacular comebacks

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It’s just aura, I don’t like using that word too much

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But he has aura

blissful fulcrum
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i’m just not sure at all how brazil is going to line up

lost dawn
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Solely off of name

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And presence

flat moth
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2003 - juve players fuck up on pens despite buffon heroics & nedved misses the game

2014 - ramos scores last minute header to save Madrid

2022 - cinema level storyline every tie😭

lusty bay
flat moth
flat moth
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2007 ancelotti’s most comfortable ever UCL

lusty bay
flat moth
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Otherwise all of the 4 others have been cinematic/awfully close

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2005 the once he lost in final was also the bets comeback ever in a final😭

flat moth
lusty bay
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Many Milan players were getting old, the run was easy but with the age of the squad I guess it would have been a bit difficult

flat moth
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Okay

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Well I remember then winning the final & semi comfortably

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Quarter was against Hamburg that they won fine enough as well

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Ro16 I don’t remember

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Lemme check

lost dawn
lusty bay
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One of their group stage games was against Anderlecht

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I think

lost dawn
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Striker tho? Idk

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Both jesuses are options

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Vini on the left, Rodrygo on the right

blissful fulcrum
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and what about cunha? is he going to play CAM or more in that second striker role. if he plays second striker will he be paired with vini or man idek? or will joao pedro be paired with vini. and if he chooses to use wingers what will happen between raphinha and vini? maybe raphinha cam?

flat moth
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0-0 first leg

lusty bay
lost dawn
lusty bay
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medium difficulty

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i'd say

lost horizon
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Is 2007 banter era Milan

lost dawn
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He wants ball to feet but in this type of team idk

flat moth
lost horizon
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Or is that 2008

flat moth
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so no

lusty bay
blissful fulcrum
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brazil just looks so incoherent up top

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it’s a mess

flat moth
lusty bay
lost dawn
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Many actually

lost horizon
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Brazil needs new fullbacks as well

lusty bay
lost horizon
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I think Don Carlo plays Henrique usually on the right

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Left back seems very up in the air

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Or Wesley from Roma

blissful fulcrum
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vanderson should play on the right

lost horizon
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It seems Carlo is going more with that recently

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I know he’s only recently been appointed but the clock is ticking for the World Cup

blissful fulcrum
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lol and cant forget about estevao

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good luck to ancelotti

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he is going to have to make something out of this mess

flat moth
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They shall treat it as a long term project perhaps

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Till 2030

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Try to win 2028 Copa
& build up for 2030

lost horizon
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Hopefully

neon bloom
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Ancelotti is so overhyped

lusty bay
lost horizon
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Ecuador have the structure for a mean team

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They need a new striker thou

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Valencia would be pushing 40

marble violet
neon bloom
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He did not make Brazil better at all

eager wasp
south helm
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He's good

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But defenetly get old

haughty ridge
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How is he

devout spear
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It's common they switch every time and call ancelloti and Zidane the most overrated

eager wasp
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People think he's the best because of that

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But in reality most of those UCLs were luck based where his tactical failures got bailed out by individual brilliance

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hence why he's a horrific failure in league football

haughty ridge
devout spear
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Winning 5 ucls with "tactical failures and individual brilliance"

eager wasp
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and the opposite happened once tbf with Milan

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But the nature of his UCL wins are clear in his terrible domestic record

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you can't win 2 league titles in 9 years with that generational Milan superteam and be considered a T3 manager of all time

haughty ridge
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What about wenger

eager wasp
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Wenger is the opposite of Ancelotti lol

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barely any trophies comparatively but tactically great

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immensely influential

haughty ridge
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Who wud u rather have

eager wasp
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Depends on my team tbf but personally would prefer Wenger, though all-time I'd rank Ancelotti higher

eager wasp
eager wasp
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Tears

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That's even more awful

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How is that even possible

radiant aurora
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Winning CLs is impressive, but I think people hyper focus on them too much

eager wasp
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Yeah

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so much variance/luck involved

radiant aurora
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Milan won the CL in 2003 by winning 1 of their last 7 games in the competition

eager wasp
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ahaha

radiant aurora
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and that was an injury time winner

eager wasp
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Incredible statistic to have stored

radiant aurora
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CL wins are great, but cup runs in general are just less impressive than a league title over 30+ games for me

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Then certain achieivments get overrated. 'Winning in 5 leagues' is just such an arbitrary thing

eager wasp
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Depends on the financial dominance you exert on that league tbf

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PSG winning a Ligue 1 means nothing

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I mean as a managerial feat

haughty ridge
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Well said mate

neon bloom
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Such a basic manager

fluid fox
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naive frigate
radiant aurora
naive frigate
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i still think it's a big achievement, it's extremely hard to avoid losing at least one game

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defo not the best prem season ever anyway

radiant aurora
naive frigate
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yeah statistically it means nothing

inland plover
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i think the mind of a football fan remembers teams that played the most fun and joyful when it comes to it

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not effectivity, or results per se, or stats or points

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Which is why for example Chelsea 2012 UCL run is not very remembered, the squad didn't really play any memorable football

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yet Ajax run in 2022 is legendary for many

lost dawn
inland plover
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same with Dortmund 2013

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or for eample Pep Barca

naive frigate
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people hate pep for being boring yeah

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despite him being a top manager oat

inland plover
lost horizon
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Bielsa teams are very fun to watch

lost dawn
lost horizon
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Till the gears pop off

lost dawn
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Like as if he told championship sides to play tiki taka

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Pass out from the back

inland plover
lost dawn
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Everyone just flocks to what’s working

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Now it’s all spamming set pieces

inland plover
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then the tikitaka thing got so repetitive people started getting exhausted by spain NT and barca

lost dawn
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Long throw in

lost horizon
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Proper Stoke ball

inland plover
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I know Pep has kinda gone through a million metamorphosis since then though lol

lost dawn
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Trends

lost horizon
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Speaking of Pep

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Idk what he was thinking in that 2019 UCL match against Lyon

lost dawn
lost horizon
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Like people rightfully remember 2021 UCL final

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But that Lyon game was baffling

inland plover
lost horizon
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That or drew up the team sheet 4 shots of tequila in

eager wasp
naive frigate
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except the money thing

eager wasp
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This post-pep prem of set pieces long throws and terrorist football is considered way worse 😂

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so many 0-0s

lost horizon
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Before 2023 it used to be that Pep in UCL matches would overthink it

lost dawn
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I can’t stand this new long throw in nonsense man

inland plover
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lol why is this so funny

lost horizon
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Like yeah that 2021 UCL final line up was a head scratcher

inland plover
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pep is like a weird genius

naive frigate
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i love pep vs cameraman

inland plover
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quirky, histrionic

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intense

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i hope they make a movie about him in the future

eager wasp
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well put buddy

lost horizon
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I’m sure they will bio pics are all the rage these days

eager wasp
lost horizon
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Best imho

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The look up at the end like he’s screaming to God

inland plover
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Legend

inland plover
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brasil foreshadowing

radiant aurora
flat moth
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Knockout tournaments aren’t really the best way to judge coaches

inland plover
flat moth
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Especially when the league record is lacking like Ancelotti’s

inland plover
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Bruhl funnily enough knows german, english and spanish

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just shave Bruhls head

flat moth
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One of the best managers ever certainly

But “GOAT” over last few years feel overdone

inland plover
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PEP a film by Danny Boyle

flat moth
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Overrated doesn’t equate to calling someone Bad

haughty ridge
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Whose your top 5

flat moth
# haughty ridge Well hes up there imo

He is an all timer & top 5/7 all time
But his tactical skill is far from “GOAT” level

He has started to get so many GOAT shouts in recent years only since the 2022 & 2024 UCL wins with Madrid due to the number of UCL’s he has, which in general is a horrible metric to judge coaches as knockout tournaments are easily swung by luck & individual moments from players

flat moth
# haughty ridge Whose your top 5

SAF & Pep are the best ever for me

SAF simply had an insane amount of longevity while also innovating & adjusting to every era, absolutely perfect man manager & squad builder as well

Pep simply a tactical mastermind & genius, who has dominated league football like no other

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Ancelotti’s performance in league football, a type of competition which has less of an influence of luck & individual factors is way below both of them

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Yet in the last 3 years so many are placing him above both plainly due to UCL medals

haughty ridge
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I've glazed pep numerous times and caught heat for it kekw

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Those 2 might be better perhaps

flat moth
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People who call Ancelotti the GOAT dont quite realise how close some of his UCL’s were

haughty ridge
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But surely he makes the top 5 atleast

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If not top 3

inland plover
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To avoid repeating Scourge, i'll add Luis Enrique and Klopp to this list

flat moth
inland plover
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two of the coaches that have impressed me the most for their ability to rebuild, remake and reinforce teams

flat moth
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Very few can keep superstars happy like him

inland plover
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i dont think Klopp gets enough credit for what he did to Dortmund and Liverpool imo

haughty ridge
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But they're not ahead of ancelotti imo

inland plover
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and Lucho for me is a genius. Also very likable. Humble, hard worker, creative, does the best with what he has

haughty ridge
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Klopp didnt win many league titles either

flat moth
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Enrique & Klopp aren’t above ancelotti all time

haughty ridge
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But I understand tbh

inland plover
flat moth
inland plover
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Carlo is probably one of the best if not the best at handling egoes

flat moth
inland plover
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bro can manage any player and squeeze their strengths

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SAF yes he was great

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most likely this is given by experience and wisdom i think

flat moth
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Yes

haughty ridge
flat moth
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Yup & respected him as well

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He was unmatched in terms of controlling the squad

haughty ridge
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Yeah but he was notorious for crashing out

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At HT to his players

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Id say with ancelotti the respect he gets from players isnt based on fear

flat moth
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SAF was treated as a father figure by most of the United players he ever coached

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He was just strict when it was needed

haughty ridge
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Pep SAF and who else

flat moth
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Rinus Michels is probably third

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Ancelotti around 4th/5th

haughty ridge
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But most people wont know him

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Lets stick the managers we watched

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Unless ur 50 or something you couldn't have watched him in his prime

inland plover
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I wish I had seen Maradona live

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at least in the 90s when he was at boca all coked up

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and fat

flat moth
inland plover
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some coaches that these newer gens kinda snub is Fabio Capello, Vicente Del Bosque, Guus Hiddink

flat moth
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Capello is also an all timer yeah

haughty ridge
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You know

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If anything mourinho is overrated

inland plover
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i think his later career ruins his image

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if he had stopped at real madrid

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same with Wenger or Simeone

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other coaches that I think should get their flowers while not being in the top 5 table is Emery, Pellegrini, Bielsa, Conte, Ranieri, Heynckes

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Heynckes man he was the artist behind the Bayern treble

edgy magnet
inland plover
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not when he was active

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back then, he was at the top

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he coached Juve and Madrid

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Italy NT too

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Capello was very respected

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dunno why he is forgotten

edgy magnet
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Yeah and won several italy super cups too

lost horizon
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I think it’s partially because he seems a pretty reserved person

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He doesn’t do a lot of public appearances

inland plover
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valid

naive topaz
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sacked from Real Madrid twice despite winning the league title both times for playing tactically sound but boring football

modern kernel
modern kernel
lost horizon
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Emery just got a bad rap from the Arsenal meltdown

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I think even prime pep would be drop kicking David Luis for some of his defending during lockdown

radiant aurora
grim dust
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what 'bout sir matt busby