#Music Star Log/Research
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i did notice during the child stage in particular it would turn the lights off on its own Sometimes
normally they fall asleep with the lights on and you have to turn them off by pressing A or B
alright ill keep an eye out then, thanks!
i just got the teen tho so im curious if theyre similar
weird ringotchi looks like shes sulking playing with the toy...
i don't recall seeing this happen during the teen stage
but who knows at this point lmao
what toy is it?
ufo
hmmm
there are toys only boys like and toys only girls like
but i Thought the ufo was neutral???
maybe it is a boy one
it seemed similar to the crying animation where their eyes close and they fall to the floor
one last question, what raises happiness besides snacks
fully completing mini games?
baby!
yeah, playing games!
and sometimes mail can alter happiness too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m41HPXWTPFFPiEKIDw2lVQKN6wmNDNxwiOsgzCe-qB8/edit?usp=sharing
i recorded what you get from playing games depending on how far you get in this document
so you can get a happy heart without fully winning the game
i noticed that, as long as the score seems "good" or above youll get at least one heart
thanks for the doc!
another thing im confused about, prior to the adult stage theres no way to make money except randomly from the gotchi king or via the shop items if u have them? cause if so this feels like an oversight with the teen not getting their hearts filled unless its from store bought food
the shops appear in the shop i assume?
yeah on first gen you really gotta save your money for food
it kinda sucks at first but after you start making stupid money from concerts it's easy to afford along with other cheaper items
and then you can build up a food stockpile to get through easily on later gens
as long as its not a wave 2 device
going by shell design id assume mine is wave 1 like the US version but i have yet to find that out haha
yeah parents taking all their money on wave 2 is diabolical but also very funny to me
no inheritance for you lmaoo
this reset trick i found mentioned on gotchi garden is wild
Set the time, date, and your username and wait one minutes for the egg to hatch. Once it does, it will go to the screen where you can name your pet.
Do not do that just yet. 😉
Instead, hit the RESET button at the back of the toy, and then choose DOWNLOAD from the menu. Let the egg hatch - repeat the whole process. Preferably a few times.
This will:
Start you off with more instruments to choose from
Start you off with more toys to choose from
Start you off with MORE MONEY
wish i had known
what time does the shop inventory change?
Usually I'd rely on the good old Connection pattern of "wake up time, 3pm, 7pm" but it might be slightly different from my memory
I guess I should really run a Music Star soon huh xD
If I'm reading this chart correctly, it should be 1 physical care mistake and 1 mental care mistake to get Kikitchi? What needs to be verified is if it's 1p/1m or if 2m or 2p gets Kikitchi as well?
how late am I to the party 😂
Just enough to where we all kinda burnt out on doing more research 
with all the different mechanics I can see why, so far tho I’m having a fun time just raising it, this might be my fav model 😳 and I’m not even a fan of the connection era
maybe I’m just super nostalgic for when guitar hero was popular 😆
i've been thinking about running my music stars closer to christmas, so i could help again with research then. i got my first music star as a christmas present back in 2009, but it was later stolen from me. i managed to buy the same shell couple months ago, so now i could relive that childhood memory with the same shell. it would my first time running two as well
i really like the music star, it just feels like really detailed device. i love the little details like how the tama answers the door for mail and walks through it go shopping
Yeees I love the music star 💫 there’s so many things to do and the animations are great. I’ll join you for a Christmas run of the music star !! Sounds fun to do a group hatch!! 
I was watching a video on the band practice u can do as an adult, it looks so fun and almost like old school rhythm games
Yeaaah it’s basically tama guitar hero hehe 🙃 I find the band practices help my tamas debut faster - don’t even need to max out skill points
oooh good to know
is this a sulking animation meaning she doesn’t like the dream mic?
no
they'll have a favorite instrument, but they will look upset while playing it sometimes regardless
maybe it happens more often when it's their fav, but i don't know for sure
you just gotta praise them when they practice no matter what, i think
so for instruments it doesn’t matter but if they play with a disliked toy it will up their stress?
practicing with the instruments always increases their stress iirc, even if it's their fave and they're Not upset while doing it
if they look upset it might increase it more? but i have not really noticed that
maybe it’s just a stress indicator not necessarily more
but the second half of my question was asking about toys
Disliked toys will raise stress but only by one point each time they use it iirc. They punish you a bit but not too much lol
Toy likes and dislikes are also gender based 
I gave one of my boys a book because I thought it was one of the handful of gender neutral options, but he didn't like it. Reading is for girls I guess
hilarious! and thank u!
sounds to me that you're son was a tama fan
would u be interested in having me add on the price of food and items in case they’re slightly different between regions?
i was not keeping track of the prices too closely tbh
but all info is good info, so if you notice anything that's different from what i have on my doc or any of the item charts around, it'd be nice to know
gotchi garden seems to claim the shop updates at slightly different times, ill have to test it out
every morning when your Tama wakes up
11:00 AM
3:00 PM
6:00 PM
That makes sense, I did recall them being different either on this, Tama-Go or both
another thing she suggests is using the "time out" command when a tama does not practice with an instruments when you tell them to, has the time out function been confirmed for anything in particular?
i havent used it all so far
Gotchi Garden speculates a lot about the Music Star xD her site says that all rhe characters are obtained by specific stress levels which is blatantly proven false now
I don't blame her for speculating or anything, but yeah I'm not entirely sure timing out does anything besides increase stress
the wiki says to use it if they act out with connecting on the other hand
I can't remember if it's this version or not but there's one where timeouts have the Tama sit there crying and unresponsive for a minute or so if you time it out for no reason
oh yea that does happen on the music star they get real mad for a bit and you can't do anything while they crash out (source: i accidently picked time out when i meant to praise them)
in my experience there really isn't a reason to ever time them out though
it's easy enough to give snacks or play games to reduce stress so they're less likely to play with their toy
and the manual only suggests using time out if they don't respond to you (i've never seen this happen idk what they're talking about) or if they keep playing with their toy instead of practicing
good point
i assume them not responding is from stress being too high but i havent personally seen it happen
well ive got an adult now, whats recommended for passing the exam and earning trophies?
some people suggest skills points be as high as possible
Mostly it's random, but just having high skills and practicing a lot tends to feed the placebo that it does something xD
There's always been people saying switching the other band members' instruments helps, but in my experience it hardly does and Bill is always just a stingy jerk who likes the letter X and hates the letter O >:/
i have managed to pass on the first attempt with around 300 points in each skill, having practiced at the school a few times
i feel like it's mostly practicing with the band / at school and having the right instruments to music genre combination, but i don't think anyone knows for sure yet
I have a feeling I don’t have the right instruments for the genre my group selected but they’re the only ones I have right now so I guess I’ll just wing it XD
this device may forever remain an enigma unless it gets decapped lol
too many different mechanics to keep on top of
is it possible for a band to not make their debut at all? I assume I need all 3 scores to be Os
Very possible. Happens to me all the time lol
oh nooooo 😭
Just make sure to answer their concert calls all the time since that's where they try again for a pro debut, and eventually they'll get three O's! I don't think I've ever gone an entire generation without it, but there have been times where they just get garbage luck and go several days being broke ahh Tamas
the pro debut is like the one thing i wish we had really concrete data for requirements. i suck at both the teen music lesson and adult band practise
are the requirements for getting a trophy known?
the genre trophies? if your star ranking is 1st when you do a concert you get one from the gotchi king
and playing the concerts consistently is all it takes to get up to 1st?
yeah. i think high skills help as well. from my experience it is very easy to get first place. passing the debut the first place is way harder
thanks!
im compiling everything in a notes doc since theres so much to this device
i can confirm shop change times are 11 am, 3 pm, and 6 pm
You can check the clock screen to see what your current rank is, as long as it's at 1st when you go perform a concert you should receive a trophy
I think you can only get one trophy of a specific genre per generation/band, but if they swap genres somehow you can get multiple awards of different genres
They can be overwritten in later generations, too; I think it gets rid of the previous band's info/performance if so?
Also also you can watch their performance again if you click on the trophy uwu
so I think I just had a concert event but it didn’t seem like I had passed the performance before it because I got 1 X and the sound made it seem like they failed
you can do concerts no matter what !!
oh! is that what the wiki is saying about being street performers then since I haven’t passed yet
I did notice nazotchi was the only one in the crowd 😆
More start to appear and fill the crowd the more successful they are xD
But yeah those are different than the pro debut auditions
They're sprinkled intermittently at certain times too
oh cute i see the background looks like its at a park now, i assume thatll be different once theyre pros
cuteeee 4 people in the crowd now!
Yeah sometimes the intro animation is different and shows them appearing on stage with fancy spotlights and stuff x3 it's cute
Music Star has so much visual flair
For a Connection cx
yay we passed! and music skill points were all under 300 except for original
has it been tested if you can get grippatchi or oyaji by marrying between the music star and tama go?
I love this device
This band slays ✨
They're not present on the device at all
Oh, or do you mean on the Tama-Go?
I mean does marrying oldies between version count towards them on the tama go
I was meaning to test that the next time I started them up
Tama-Go is weird and requires a connection marriage to get them, even if you marry an Otokitchi and Ojitchi from the Date Place
I’m willing to test that too!
The oldies show up the same on both (their data is shared I believe) so I'd like to believe it counts, but has not been tested to my knowledge
That'd be great :3 I've got my hands full with 5 Paradises, a Uni and an Entama 😂
yeah it had me wondering especially if marrying the new oldies to the go
That needs to be tested too yeah, I imagine their data doesn't show up on the Tama-Go so they probably don't count since it's just a Nazotchi
hmm good point
Ironically some of the unused characters show up as normal; I tested Androtchi who isn't raisable on Tama-Go, he shows up in the notebook as normal
oooh interesting!
Yeh I need to try Togetchi too since he's also unused
I don't think so, not sure how debug works but seemingly it was just because their sprite sheets show up frequently in the rom dump
Like, every single Gotchi Figure has a full set of their sprites with each applicable item
Kinda wild, makes me think they were planning on making a follow-up version with new characters before it flopped
makes sense since they also planned other figures
Sad cause characters like Kabukitchi were there! English debut for them would have been nice
You can! I did it last year
Also my grippatchi's brother is trans :3c
omg it works even if he’s as nazotchi!!!
super cool!!!
now I can get grippa even tho I don’t have another go yay!
@digital anvil confirmed!
Huh, I wonder why it switched the baby's gender xD
That's cool tho, I wonder now if the requirement is just for Otokitchi/Ojitchi to get married thru connection and any adult works
It's actually a pretty common glitch when marrying a music star and a tama go! This isn't the first time its happened to me
Cause oldies can marry any adult on the Tama-Go thru the Date Place, I would he interested to know if it worked with connection too
No idea what causes it
Perhaps they determine the gender differently so it's kinda just random xD
Who knows
Perhaps! Love my trans music stars
He has not! I would be starting with him the next time I start up that music star x3
any adult to marry an oldie?
Yeah, since that's possible thru the Date Place on the Tama-Go. So it would be good to test if connecting a normal adult from the Music Star and an oldie on the Tama-Go to see if they get married and give Oyajitchi/Grippatchi
I’ll give it a whirl!
ofc Makiko is in this band 💅
I think my current band is called LESBIANS or something like that LMAO
what age does the matchmaker start showing up
6 iirc
looks like it’s age 5, I got one at 4:30 tho not at 12:30 cause nazotchi was at the door
so what triggers being given the award, my band is 1st ranking and they had a concert since being 1st
never mind the second concert of the night seems to have triggered it
Yeh they have to be 1st (shown in the clock screen) and then do a concert
they were definitely 1st place during the first concert
no one was responding to me in the help channel so I’ll ask here, when do you praise and time out your tamas? and what happens if u leave your tama in fat mode for an extended period of time, will it kill them?
Do you mean for the Tama-Go? I couldn't find your message in the Help channel for some reason
yeah the go
Not sure about either of them, unfortunately
My working theory for praising and timing out is that it just alternates; since the animation looks exactly the same, I'll praise it the first time and if it gives me a training point, I'll time out the next time and just keep track of it. If it didn't give me a training point, I praise again the next time and I've seen that it works
I have zero idea when to utilize the praise function at all, and it’s not like older devices where your discipline them because they won’t eat
oh so you’re just going back and forth
Well, it's more like the Connections than any vintage one
Plus I thought it was more vice versa, like they wouldn't eat because they needed to be disciplined
That's usually when they're doing a discipline call
didn’t they refuse to eat on earlier connections
I don't think so, it's always just been dependent on the animation
ah so they made it impossible to tell for the go 😂
I haven't run a V1 in forever so I can't say for sure about that release, but V2 onwards it just depends on if it's sulking, crying or doing nothing
Yeah pretty much, which is awfully frustrating when the growth chart actually depends on the training bar this time
is it not explained in the manual that came in box?
But it's also really easy to get training, since catching a poop call will fill like 3 bars
I don't think so, I remember asking for it to see if it mentions it but it's basically like "praise or time out your Tama when it's being good or bad!"
Like super vague LOL
I lucked out and got my boy on the first run, tho idk how important training really was since I only had 4 bars
Care conditions was one of the things that was datamined for the Tama-Go so we do have very detailed conditions for each tier
dang but disciplining wasn’t figured out? was that part of the rom skipped over?
I'm not really sure, I wasn't there when it was datamined
is the person who did it not active anymore
I think so, I believe it was Natashenka who did the Friends decompiling too but I'm not really sure what happened to them
was there a website for the tama go documentation
I don't think so, just the GitHub:
alright thanks! sorry for spamming the music star forum lol
ooh one last thing, does the reset trick work for getting the adult u want in the tier you’re in
She’s still around and still active but just doesn’t really post on this discord
Her website may have had a section on how disciplining worked, I can’t remember exactly
I figured out the way the growth worked a few years ago though I think she may have had a writeup on how it works too
do u mind sharing the website
#tamagotchi-de-hackin message
She also had a kwartzlab but you have to use the wayback machine for that now
is a kwartzlab a vpet?
No
and I think originally it was
https://kwartzlab.ca/author/natalies
Both domains have been snatched up now though so you need to check them on the wayback machine
hmm I don’t see any blog posts regarding the go’s gameplay
found this page but it doesn’t go into detail about disciplining
Someday we will solve this
were unsure how disciplining is utilized since the animations for praising or using time out are the same from your character
Hmm
as in how do you determine to praise or time out your character
how so?
were the conditions you confirmed in the hacking channel from reading through the rom?
Yeah they were by decompiling the code
It was a while back when I was hyperfixating on it, but I feel like I remember asking cause I didn't know whether to praise or discipline for training since the animation is the same 🤔
But if you can find an answer that would be lovely
Life is such a blur lately I'm forgetting everything I don't write down on the Wiki 
i was also wondering if leaving your tama in a fat state for a prolonged period perhaps made them sick or killed them, but i can always test that easily if u cant
That would be quite an easy one to test yeah
Someone left me in a fat state but I’ve made it to 30YR 💪
lmao same 😂
someone had commented that he’s angry because his stress is maxed out and another said he’s dying, how accurate are these comments
Def have had stress at 99 and my Tama didn't die
But it won't play instruments or anything
Idk if it affects anything in the long term tho, usually it'll go play with a toy on its own at some point
So it's hard to keep it at 99 for prolonged periods of time
interesting, cause the person had mentioned they can’t press buttons, so it sounds like you’re locked out of interacting until they play with a toy?
That's what happens if you time them out too much I think
And potentially waking them up from sleep, I believe?
I really need to run one before I Mandela-effect myself into believing all this LOL
ah I just wanted to comment to help them out since the other two sounded misinformed
what does their dying animation look like if the grim gotchi isn’t caught in time
Unfortunately everyone is misinformed because it's the Music Star xD
I have no idea, I haven't had a Music Star die in front of me so I've never seen it
I’ve got mine paused on my desk, I could test out timing out but should I wake them in the evening or early morning
Don’t Music Stars run away instead of die? It could be possible that this person’s tama is entering the “death” sequence (i.e they’re so angry they’re deciding to leave)
His stress is maxed and he's pissed off by being in time out. He'll chill in a few minutes. I had my max stress run do this
It's been ages since I've had one die, but I think its just the normal face down thing but they leave a note with wings like dread mentioned
so they leave they don’t die?
Yeah I dont think there's different death screens. Although I suppose a letter with wings could be interpreted as a message from heaven...
yeah if they’re face down that sounds like dying imo
except it sounds like angels don’t take them away
No not that I recall
Its been literally well over a decade since Ive had a music star die (my pink one's lineage goes back to circa 2012)
Im the it's at 99 stress xD
it's from personal experience, I've actually tested it because I was pretty confused the first time
When it reaches 99 stress for a while, it will call out but refuses to let you do anything, buttons don't work at all, so you're stuck and have to wait till the time goes by and the tama leaves
Adults as far as I know don't die, only child/teen tamas can on the v6, they just leave you a passive agresive note xD
No time outs at all on the tamas lifespan on the second time it happened
I just left it unsupervised too long
Although as I comented, if you press reset, you continue as if nothing happened, although stress will be pretty high still
when researching the first time someone also commented to press buttons quickly, but that did absolutely nothing
I think the combo to get this "event" is 0 happiness, 0 hunger, 99 stress
so it will always leave if stress gets to 99? or is it care mistake based too
I had it happen when I kiiiiiiinda forgot about them, so I think care mistakes might take a part on it yeah
but only those in adult life I believe, Because the first one that left was pretty well cared for until it was an adult, and the second one was a pretty bad run full of mistakes xD
I couldn't notice any difference in times it took them to leave, say, the good care one didn't tale longer to leave than the bad care one
I have two music stars at teen stage rn, I can turn them on and test stuff next week...
Definitely not the first one; as I said, mine has been at 99 stress before and even stayed like that for a while and I didn't notice anything different besides it obviously not wanting to practice its instrument at all
what they can throw away their toys 😭
omygosh the connection games between the go and music star are too cute! ive gotten the piano contest and bowling ones so far
the bowling ball crashing into the audience is the funniest thing XD
guess those are the only 2 games tho lol
god ive connected like 20 times and they dont have a single heart yet lmao
spoke too soon lol
so theyll both stick around with the baby for 2 days?
I think it's technically 24 waking hours, then the next time it turns from 11:59pm to 12:00am they leave. But if you leave it organically it will be 2 days, yes
lolol the baby on the go gets fat too if u overfeed it
It does xD hard to tell but it is a unique sprite
i couldnt quite see it with the lcd leak but i could tell it was doing the same thing as the adult, super funny that u can get a chonky baby XD
Breeding music stars is a nightmare. I married mine off to another person’s at a tama club meetup and it took like a half hour of constant connecting
it’s been over 24 hours so I set the time and let the clock roll over to midnight but it’s been stuck on this screen and won’t let me interact with it
awww they’re tree gazing together 🥺
I love the void just swallowing the baby--
Also yeh it's just a really long animation, eventually he'll leave
I remember it being a lot longer on the Tama-Go compared to previous versions
I was hoping to catch it but it’s muted, do u know about how long
I don't, it's been a while since I ran mine
It actually doesn't make sound during it
dang I’ve got stuff to do I was hoping I didn’t have to stare at this thing for an hour 😂
Since it happens at midnight, it's a silent animation so it doesn't wake you up if you're asleep!
Take notes m!x and On...
lmao they added noises on those?
making them leave when they wake up in the morning seems way more user friendly
Yeah the m!x and On have dream/nightmare animations that occasionally happen at 12am
And they beep at you to activate it
It's annoying af
leaving your 2 day old baby at midnight just seems cruel 😭
what a pointless feature….
It would be cute if it didn't literally happen at midnight 😭
Like at least do it earlier so it's not screaming at you in the middle of the night
fr
Cause it's not like a single beep, it beeps like 5 times in a row
rip to those who play with those devices with the sound on at night
so are they just gonna float to the top of the screen?
dazzlitchi is taking her sweet time too
well I guess I missed ojitchi’s exit he’s gone now
lol smooched and dipped
looks like it took her 5 min to leave
I didn’t inherit any gotchi points 😂😭
Aaah means you have the updated version xD
Ahh, so it has to be two oldies then
You got a normal toddler on the Tama-Go?
yeah the little mushroom guy
That's the baby .3. He should either evolve into Oyajitchi after an hour, or into Ahirukutchi or Mattaritchi
It does
When it wakes up, it evolves directly into Oyajitchi after an hour if you did it right
If not it becomes a normal toddler, and later a normal adult
Oyajitchi/Grippatchi skip the toddler and teen stage
ah yeah its the baby kinotchi, let me change the time so itll possibly evolve
it had gone to bed not long ago
Yeah once it wakes up and you start the generation, you go through the usual baby hour and then it evolves into Oyajitchi
Or just one of the toddlers if in fact you can't get the special adults from marrying an oldie to a normal adult
thru connection
i set the time to noon but its not waking up....
well that was odd, it took a minute to roll over to wake up
yeah it had gone to bed as if it were a normal character, it had been sleeping for over an hour
maybe that signifies itll evolve into the adults?
? I don't think so, do you mean it went back to bed after Ojitchi left?
Cause it does that until it officially wakes up and then it starts the generation
It should work pretty much exactly like all other Connections
mmmmmmm never mind, i had it paused that what did it lmaooo
Oop
that was its normal baby nap lmaoooo
Ah I see, haha
Well do update when it finally evolves after baby hour!
I'm eager to see whether you get Oyajitchi or not
got the child ahirukutchi 😔
Nooooo :(
Looks like it has to be two oldies
I think @primal needle said Rexitchi and Dango Obatchi work too?
they did~
would definitely make a great addition to the connectivity paragraph on the go and music star pages!
True true
got kuribotchi -> 1 cm -> hinotamatchi -> 2 cm -> dorotchi for my latest run
Do you happen to remember if they were physical or mental? I believe it matters because getting 1 physical and 1 mental, for example, wouldn't total to 2 cms because they're separate types
Just like older Connection models
toddler to teen was mental (happiness), teen to adult physical (hunger)
so, i married my two music stars. 999 in all skills, 1st place currently and had gotten awards and both adults. no mega drum 🫤
ok, so the music teacher visits later. got mega drum on one of them
discovered a funny glitch
so what i think happened is yesterday my band evolved and they started playing a song, but right before the song started playing i got the low battery screen
so this morning, the little animation where they evolve plays again
but their sprites were JUST the top half of a kuchipatchi and the top half of like a shimashimatchi i think
and then they evolved normally into a mametchi and gozarutchi
Oh yeah this happened to me recently too! I almost forgot about this glitch but it's delightfully funny lol
LMAO thats like a mega kuromame
He was DESTINED to be kuro (kuchipatchi didn't care for being kuchipatchi i guess lol)
We determined that missing lights off is a mental care mistake right?
I need to give my tama one more care mistake and I want to make sure i do the right one lol
I'm not entirely sure what the results were for that, honestly owo;
From what I remember, it does a weird thing where it beeps more than once? I think??
Ale might be the better one to ask, haha
i Think the final conclusion was that missing the sleep call does count as a mental miss
but i'm not really sure about anything on this version lmao
