#Music Star Log/Research

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restive charm
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so there are times where you need to turn the lights off then? cause i feel like its been automatic every time for me so far, it beeps and i look over and the lights are off

timber mural
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i did notice during the child stage in particular it would turn the lights off on its own Sometimes
normally they fall asleep with the lights on and you have to turn them off by pressing A or B

restive charm
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alright ill keep an eye out then, thanks!

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i just got the teen tho so im curious if theyre similar

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weird ringotchi looks like shes sulking playing with the toy...

timber mural
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i don't recall seeing this happen during the teen stage
but who knows at this point lmao

restive charm
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ufo

timber mural
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hmmm
there are toys only boys like and toys only girls like
but i Thought the ufo was neutral???
maybe it is a boy one

restive charm
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it seemed similar to the crying animation where their eyes close and they fall to the floor

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one last question, what raises happiness besides snacks

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fully completing mini games?

rocky crow
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baby!

timber mural
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i recorded what you get from playing games depending on how far you get in this document

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so you can get a happy heart without fully winning the game

restive charm
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i noticed that, as long as the score seems "good" or above youll get at least one heart

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thanks for the doc!

restive charm
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another thing im confused about, prior to the adult stage theres no way to make money except randomly from the gotchi king or via the shop items if u have them? cause if so this feels like an oversight with the teen not getting their hearts filled unless its from store bought food

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the shops appear in the shop i assume?

orchid kite
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yeah on first gen you really gotta save your money for food

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it kinda sucks at first but after you start making stupid money from concerts it's easy to afford along with other cheaper items

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and then you can build up a food stockpile to get through easily on later gens

restive charm
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as long as its not a wave 2 device

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going by shell design id assume mine is wave 1 like the US version but i have yet to find that out haha

orchid kite
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yeah parents taking all their money on wave 2 is diabolical but also very funny to me

restive charm
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no inheritance for you lmaoo

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this reset trick i found mentioned on gotchi garden is wild

Set the time, date, and your username and wait one minutes for the egg to hatch. Once it does, it will go to the screen where you can name your pet.
Do not do that just yet. 😉
Instead, hit the RESET button at the back of the toy, and then choose DOWNLOAD from the menu. Let the egg hatch - repeat the whole process. Preferably a few times.
This will:
Start you off with more instruments to choose from
Start you off with more toys to choose from
Start you off with MORE MONEY

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wish i had known

restive charm
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what time does the shop inventory change?

digital anvil
rocky crow
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If I'm reading this chart correctly, it should be 1 physical care mistake and 1 mental care mistake to get Kikitchi? What needs to be verified is if it's 1p/1m or if 2m or 2p gets Kikitchi as well?

restive charm
digital anvil
restive charm
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with all the different mechanics I can see why, so far tho I’m having a fun time just raising it, this might be my fav model 😳 and I’m not even a fan of the connection era

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maybe I’m just super nostalgic for when guitar hero was popular 😆

bitter cargo
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i've been thinking about running my music stars closer to christmas, so i could help again with research then. i got my first music star as a christmas present back in 2009, but it was later stolen from me. i managed to buy the same shell couple months ago, so now i could relive that childhood memory with the same shell. it would my first time running two as well

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i really like the music star, it just feels like really detailed device. i love the little details like how the tama answers the door for mail and walks through it go shopping

rocky crow
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Yeees I love the music star 💫 there’s so many things to do and the animations are great. I’ll join you for a Christmas run of the music star !! Sounds fun to do a group hatch!! MamePretty

restive charm
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I was watching a video on the band practice u can do as an adult, it looks so fun and almost like old school rhythm games

rocky crow
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Yeaaah it’s basically tama guitar hero hehe 🙃 I find the band practices help my tamas debut faster - don’t even need to max out skill points

restive charm
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oooh good to know

restive charm
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is this a sulking animation meaning she doesn’t like the dream mic?

timber mural
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no
they'll have a favorite instrument, but they will look upset while playing it sometimes regardless
maybe it happens more often when it's their fav, but i don't know for sure
you just gotta praise them when they practice no matter what, i think

restive charm
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so for instruments it doesn’t matter but if they play with a disliked toy it will up their stress?

timber mural
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practicing with the instruments always increases their stress iirc, even if it's their fave and they're Not upset while doing it
if they look upset it might increase it more? but i have not really noticed that

restive charm
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maybe it’s just a stress indicator not necessarily more

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but the second half of my question was asking about toys

primal needle
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Toy likes and dislikes are also gender based pensiveSebiretchi

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I gave one of my boys a book because I thought it was one of the handful of gender neutral options, but he didn't like it. Reading is for girls I guessMemetchi_crii

restive charm
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hilarious! and thank u!

orchid kite
restive charm
timber mural
restive charm
digital anvil
restive charm
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another thing she suggests is using the "time out" command when a tama does not practice with an instruments when you tell them to, has the time out function been confirmed for anything in particular?

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i havent used it all so far

digital anvil
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I don't blame her for speculating or anything, but yeah I'm not entirely sure timing out does anything besides increase stress

restive charm
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the wiki says to use it if they act out with connecting on the other hand

digital anvil
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I can't remember if it's this version or not but there's one where timeouts have the Tama sit there crying and unresponsive for a minute or so if you time it out for no reason

orchid kite
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oh yea that does happen on the music star they get real mad for a bit and you can't do anything while they crash out (source: i accidently picked time out when i meant to praise them)

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in my experience there really isn't a reason to ever time them out though

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it's easy enough to give snacks or play games to reduce stress so they're less likely to play with their toy

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and the manual only suggests using time out if they don't respond to you (i've never seen this happen idk what they're talking about) or if they keep playing with their toy instead of practicing

restive charm
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good point

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i assume them not responding is from stress being too high but i havent personally seen it happen

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well ive got an adult now, whats recommended for passing the exam and earning trophies?

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some people suggest skills points be as high as possible

digital anvil
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There's always been people saying switching the other band members' instruments helps, but in my experience it hardly does and Bill is always just a stingy jerk who likes the letter X and hates the letter O >:/

timber mural
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i have managed to pass on the first attempt with around 300 points in each skill, having practiced at the school a few times
i feel like it's mostly practicing with the band / at school and having the right instruments to music genre combination, but i don't think anyone knows for sure yet

restive charm
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I have a feeling I don’t have the right instruments for the genre my group selected but they’re the only ones I have right now so I guess I’ll just wing it XD

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this device may forever remain an enigma unless it gets decapped lol

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too many different mechanics to keep on top of

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is it possible for a band to not make their debut at all? I assume I need all 3 scores to be Os

primal needle
restive charm
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oh nooooo 😭

digital anvil
bitter cargo
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the pro debut is like the one thing i wish we had really concrete data for requirements. i suck at both the teen music lesson and adult band practise

restive charm
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are the requirements for getting a trophy known?

bitter cargo
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the genre trophies? if your star ranking is 1st when you do a concert you get one from the gotchi king

restive charm
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and playing the concerts consistently is all it takes to get up to 1st?

bitter cargo
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yeah. i think high skills help as well. from my experience it is very easy to get first place. passing the debut the first place is way harder

restive charm
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thanks!

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im compiling everything in a notes doc since theres so much to this device

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i can confirm shop change times are 11 am, 3 pm, and 6 pm

digital anvil
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I think you can only get one trophy of a specific genre per generation/band, but if they swap genres somehow you can get multiple awards of different genres

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They can be overwritten in later generations, too; I think it gets rid of the previous band's info/performance if so?

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Also also you can watch their performance again if you click on the trophy uwu

restive charm
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so I think I just had a concert event but it didn’t seem like I had passed the performance before it because I got 1 X and the sound made it seem like they failed

swift sandal
restive charm
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oh! is that what the wiki is saying about being street performers then since I haven’t passed yet

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I did notice nazotchi was the only one in the crowd 😆

digital anvil
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But yeah those are different than the pro debut auditions

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They're sprinkled intermittently at certain times too

restive charm
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oh cute i see the background looks like its at a park now, i assume thatll be different once theyre pros

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cuteeee 4 people in the crowd now!

digital anvil
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Music Star has so much visual flair

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For a Connection cx

restive charm
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yay we passed! and music skill points were all under 300 except for original

restive charm
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has it been tested if you can get grippatchi or oyaji by marrying between the music star and tama go?

restive charm
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I love this device

digital anvil
digital anvil
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Oh, or do you mean on the Tama-Go?

restive charm
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I mean does marrying oldies between version count towards them on the tama go

digital anvil
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I was meaning to test that the next time I started them up

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Tama-Go is weird and requires a connection marriage to get them, even if you marry an Otokitchi and Ojitchi from the Date Place

restive charm
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I’m willing to test that too!

digital anvil
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The oldies show up the same on both (their data is shared I believe) so I'd like to believe it counts, but has not been tested to my knowledge

digital anvil
restive charm
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yeah it had me wondering especially if marrying the new oldies to the go

digital anvil
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That needs to be tested too yeah, I imagine their data doesn't show up on the Tama-Go so they probably don't count since it's just a Nazotchi

restive charm
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hmm good point

digital anvil
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Ironically some of the unused characters show up as normal; I tested Androtchi who isn't raisable on Tama-Go, he shows up in the notebook as normal

restive charm
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oooh interesting!

digital anvil
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Yeh I need to try Togetchi too since he's also unused

restive charm
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is there a way to debug to get those characters in the go?

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as playable characters

digital anvil
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I don't think so, not sure how debug works but seemingly it was just because their sprite sheets show up frequently in the rom dump

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Like, every single Gotchi Figure has a full set of their sprites with each applicable item

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Kinda wild, makes me think they were planning on making a follow-up version with new characters before it flopped

restive charm
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makes sense since they also planned other figures

digital anvil
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Sad cause characters like Kabukitchi were there! English debut for them would have been nice

primal needle
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Also my grippatchi's brother is trans :3c

restive charm
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omg it works even if he’s as nazotchi!!!

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super cool!!!

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now I can get grippa even tho I don’t have another go yay!

restive charm
primal needle
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Also damn im silly that was this year

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Ive lost all track of timeMameDead

digital anvil
digital anvil
primal needle
digital anvil
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Cause oldies can marry any adult on the Tama-Go thru the Date Place, I would he interested to know if it worked with connection too

primal needle
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No idea what causes it

digital anvil
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Who knows

primal needle
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Perhaps! Love my trans music starspride_TransLovelitchi

digital anvil
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Who did he become :O

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If he's reached adulthood yet that is xD

primal needle
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He has not! I would be starting with him the next time I start up that music star x3

digital anvil
# restive charm any adult to marry an oldie?

Yeah, since that's possible thru the Date Place on the Tama-Go. So it would be good to test if connecting a normal adult from the Music Star and an oldie on the Tama-Go to see if they get married and give Oyajitchi/Grippatchi

restive charm
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I’ll give it a whirl!

twin quiver
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I think my current band is called LESBIANS or something like that LMAO

restive charm
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what age does the matchmaker start showing up

primal needle
restive charm
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looks like it’s age 5, I got one at 4:30 tho not at 12:30 cause nazotchi was at the door

restive charm
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so what triggers being given the award, my band is 1st ranking and they had a concert since being 1st

restive charm
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never mind the second concert of the night seems to have triggered it

digital anvil
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Yeh they have to be 1st (shown in the clock screen) and then do a concert

restive charm
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they were definitely 1st place during the first concert

restive charm
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no one was responding to me in the help channel so I’ll ask here, when do you praise and time out your tamas? and what happens if u leave your tama in fat mode for an extended period of time, will it kill them?

digital anvil
restive charm
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yeah the go

digital anvil
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My working theory for praising and timing out is that it just alternates; since the animation looks exactly the same, I'll praise it the first time and if it gives me a training point, I'll time out the next time and just keep track of it. If it didn't give me a training point, I praise again the next time and I've seen that it works

restive charm
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I have zero idea when to utilize the praise function at all, and it’s not like older devices where your discipline them because they won’t eat

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oh so you’re just going back and forth

digital anvil
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Plus I thought it was more vice versa, like they wouldn't eat because they needed to be disciplined

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That's usually when they're doing a discipline call

restive charm
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didn’t they refuse to eat on earlier connections

digital anvil
restive charm
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ah so they made it impossible to tell for the go 😂

digital anvil
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I haven't run a V1 in forever so I can't say for sure about that release, but V2 onwards it just depends on if it's sulking, crying or doing nothing

digital anvil
restive charm
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is it not explained in the manual that came in box?

digital anvil
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But it's also really easy to get training, since catching a poop call will fill like 3 bars

digital anvil
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Like super vague LOL

restive charm
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I lucked out and got my boy on the first run, tho idk how important training really was since I only had 4 bars

digital anvil
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Care conditions was one of the things that was datamined for the Tama-Go so we do have very detailed conditions for each tier

restive charm
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dang but disciplining wasn’t figured out? was that part of the rom skipped over?

digital anvil
restive charm
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is the person who did it not active anymore

digital anvil
restive charm
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was there a website for the tama go documentation

digital anvil
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I don't think so, just the GitHub:

restive charm
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alright thanks! sorry for spamming the music star forum lol

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ooh one last thing, does the reset trick work for getting the adult u want in the tier you’re in

waxen mist
waxen mist
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I figured out the way the growth worked a few years ago though I think she may have had a writeup on how it works too

restive charm
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do u mind sharing the website

waxen mist
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#tamagotchi-de-hackin message

waxen mist
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She also had a kwartzlab but you have to use the wayback machine for that now

restive charm
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is a kwartzlab a vpet?

waxen mist
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No

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Both domains have been snatched up now though so you need to check them on the wayback machine

restive charm
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hmm I don’t see any blog posts regarding the go’s gameplay

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found this page but it doesn’t go into detail about disciplining

digital anvil
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Someday we will solve this

waxen mist
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I mean I can just check lol

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what do you need determining

restive charm
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were unsure how disciplining is utilized since the animations for praising or using time out are the same from your character

waxen mist
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Hmm

restive charm
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as in how do you determine to praise or time out your character

waxen mist
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I see

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I may be able to check

restive charm
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how so?

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were the conditions you confirmed in the hacking channel from reading through the rom?

waxen mist
digital anvil
# waxen mist I may be able to check

It was a while back when I was hyperfixating on it, but I feel like I remember asking cause I didn't know whether to praise or discipline for training since the animation is the same 🤔

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But if you can find an answer that would be lovely

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Life is such a blur lately I'm forgetting everything I don't write down on the Wiki MameDead

restive charm
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i was also wondering if leaving your tama in a fat state for a prolonged period perhaps made them sick or killed them, but i can always test that easily if u cant

waxen mist
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That would be quite an easy one to test yeah

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Someone left me in a fat state but I’ve made it to 30YR 💪

restive charm
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lmao same 😂

restive charm
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someone had commented that he’s angry because his stress is maxed out and another said he’s dying, how accurate are these comments

digital anvil
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Def have had stress at 99 and my Tama didn't die

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But it won't play instruments or anything

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Idk if it affects anything in the long term tho, usually it'll go play with a toy on its own at some point

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So it's hard to keep it at 99 for prolonged periods of time

restive charm
digital anvil
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And potentially waking them up from sleep, I believe?

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I really need to run one before I Mandela-effect myself into believing all this LOL

restive charm
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ah I just wanted to comment to help them out since the other two sounded misinformed

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what does their dying animation look like if the grim gotchi isn’t caught in time

digital anvil
digital anvil
restive charm
twin quiver
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Don’t Music Stars run away instead of die? It could be possible that this person’s tama is entering the “death” sequence (i.e they’re so angry they’re deciding to leave)

primal needle
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restive charm
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so they leave they don’t die?

primal needle
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Yeah I dont think there's different death screens. Although I suppose a letter with wings could be interpreted as a message from heaven...

restive charm
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yeah if they’re face down that sounds like dying imo

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except it sounds like angels don’t take them away

primal needle
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No not that I recall

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Its been literally well over a decade since Ive had a music star die (my pink one's lineage goes back to circa 2012)

maiden rapids
# restive charm ah I just wanted to comment to help them out since the other two sounded misinfo...

Im the it's at 99 stress xD
it's from personal experience, I've actually tested it because I was pretty confused the first time
When it reaches 99 stress for a while, it will call out but refuses to let you do anything, buttons don't work at all, so you're stuck and have to wait till the time goes by and the tama leaves
Adults as far as I know don't die, only child/teen tamas can on the v6, they just leave you a passive agresive note xD

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No time outs at all on the tamas lifespan on the second time it happened

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I just left it unsupervised too long

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Although as I comented, if you press reset, you continue as if nothing happened, although stress will be pretty high still

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when researching the first time someone also commented to press buttons quickly, but that did absolutely nothing

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I think the combo to get this "event" is 0 happiness, 0 hunger, 99 stress

restive charm
maiden rapids
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I had it happen when I kiiiiiiinda forgot about them, so I think care mistakes might take a part on it yeah

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but only those in adult life I believe, Because the first one that left was pretty well cared for until it was an adult, and the second one was a pretty bad run full of mistakes xD
I couldn't notice any difference in times it took them to leave, say, the good care one didn't tale longer to leave than the bad care one

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I have two music stars at teen stage rn, I can turn them on and test stuff next week...

digital anvil
primal needle
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Throwback to when mine got so mad she threw her toy away lol

restive charm
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what they can throw away their toys 😭

restive charm
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omygosh the connection games between the go and music star are too cute! ive gotten the piano contest and bowling ones so far

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the bowling ball crashing into the audience is the funniest thing XD

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guess those are the only 2 games tho lol

restive charm
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god ive connected like 20 times and they dont have a single heart yet lmao

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so theyll both stick around with the baby for 2 days?

digital anvil
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I think it's technically 24 waking hours, then the next time it turns from 11:59pm to 12:00am they leave. But if you leave it organically it will be 2 days, yes

restive charm
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lolol the baby on the go gets fat too if u overfeed it

digital anvil
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It does xD hard to tell but it is a unique sprite

restive charm
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i couldnt quite see it with the lcd leak but i could tell it was doing the same thing as the adult, super funny that u can get a chonky baby XD

twin quiver
restive charm
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it’s been over 24 hours so I set the time and let the clock roll over to midnight but it’s been stuck on this screen and won’t let me interact with it

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awww they’re tree gazing together 🥺

digital anvil
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Also yeh it's just a really long animation, eventually he'll leave

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I remember it being a lot longer on the Tama-Go compared to previous versions

restive charm
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I was hoping to catch it but it’s muted, do u know about how long

digital anvil
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I don't, it's been a while since I ran mine

digital anvil
restive charm
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dang I’ve got stuff to do I was hoping I didn’t have to stare at this thing for an hour 😂

digital anvil
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Since it happens at midnight, it's a silent animation so it doesn't wake you up if you're asleep!

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Take notes m!x and On...

restive charm
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lmao they added noises on those?

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making them leave when they wake up in the morning seems way more user friendly

digital anvil
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Yeah the m!x and On have dream/nightmare animations that occasionally happen at 12am

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And they beep at you to activate it

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It's annoying af

restive charm
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leaving your 2 day old baby at midnight just seems cruel 😭

restive charm
digital anvil
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It would be cute if it didn't literally happen at midnight 😭

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Like at least do it earlier so it's not screaming at you in the middle of the night

restive charm
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fr

digital anvil
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Cause it's not like a single beep, it beeps like 5 times in a row

restive charm
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rip to those who play with those devices with the sound on at night

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so are they just gonna float to the top of the screen?

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dazzlitchi is taking her sweet time too

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well I guess I missed ojitchi’s exit he’s gone now

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looks like it took her 5 min to leave

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I didn’t inherit any gotchi points 😂😭

digital anvil
restive charm
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i also did not get oyajitchi from marrying dazzlitchi and ojitchi

digital anvil
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You got a normal toddler on the Tama-Go?

restive charm
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yeah the little mushroom guy

digital anvil
restive charm
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oh i thought the baby formed evolved into oyajitchi

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wait

digital anvil
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It does

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When it wakes up, it evolves directly into Oyajitchi after an hour if you did it right

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If not it becomes a normal toddler, and later a normal adult

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Oyajitchi/Grippatchi skip the toddler and teen stage

restive charm
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ah yeah its the baby kinotchi, let me change the time so itll possibly evolve

digital anvil
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Oh, is it still sleeping?

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I thought you woke it up lol

restive charm
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it had gone to bed not long ago

digital anvil
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Yeah once it wakes up and you start the generation, you go through the usual baby hour and then it evolves into Oyajitchi

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Or just one of the toddlers if in fact you can't get the special adults from marrying an oldie to a normal adult

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thru connection

restive charm
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i set the time to noon but its not waking up....

digital anvil
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Uh hm

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Is it napping, lol

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I think you're still in baby hour haha

restive charm
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well that was odd, it took a minute to roll over to wake up

digital anvil
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Ohh

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Weird xD Tama-Go has its quirks

restive charm
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yeah it had gone to bed as if it were a normal character, it had been sleeping for over an hour

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maybe that signifies itll evolve into the adults?

digital anvil
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? I don't think so, do you mean it went back to bed after Ojitchi left?

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Cause it does that until it officially wakes up and then it starts the generation

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It should work pretty much exactly like all other Connections

restive charm
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mmmmmmm never mind, i had it paused that what did it lmaooo

digital anvil
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Oop

restive charm
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that was its normal baby nap lmaoooo

digital anvil
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Ah I see, haha

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Well do update when it finally evolves after baby hour!

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I'm eager to see whether you get Oyajitchi or not

restive charm
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got the child ahirukutchi 😔

digital anvil
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Nooooo :(

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Looks like it has to be two oldies

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I think @primal needle said Rexitchi and Dango Obatchi work too?

restive charm
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they did~

digital anvil
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That's good, at least Music Star still works

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They just gotta be old

restive charm
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would definitely make a great addition to the connectivity paragraph on the go and music star pages!

digital anvil
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True true

bitter cargo
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got kuribotchi -> 1 cm -> hinotamatchi -> 2 cm -> dorotchi for my latest run

digital anvil
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Just like older Connection models

bitter cargo
bitter cargo
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so, i married my two music stars. 999 in all skills, 1st place currently and had gotten awards and both adults. no mega drum 🫤

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ok, so the music teacher visits later. got mega drum on one of them

swift sandal
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discovered a funny glitch

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so what i think happened is yesterday my band evolved and they started playing a song, but right before the song started playing i got the low battery screen

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so this morning, the little animation where they evolve plays again

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but their sprites were JUST the top half of a kuchipatchi and the top half of like a shimashimatchi i think

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and then they evolved normally into a mametchi and gozarutchi

primal needle
swift sandal
primal needle
primal needle
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We determined that missing lights off is a mental care mistake right?

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I need to give my tama one more care mistake and I want to make sure i do the right one lol

digital anvil
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I'm not entirely sure what the results were for that, honestly owo;

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From what I remember, it does a weird thing where it beeps more than once? I think??

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Ale might be the better one to ask, haha

timber mural
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i Think the final conclusion was that missing the sleep call does count as a mental miss
but i'm not really sure about anything on this version lmao