Yasashii Growth Theories

[vapid dirge]

How long is each stage supposed to last? I'm not sure if it's random or if there are set amount of hours

[sick nova]

I believe it’s 72 hours from teen to adult

I usually have mine unpaused for 3-4 hours a day, I’ve already left for work so it won’t be evolving today unfortunately

[sick nova]

Nevermind, my last one evolved after 36 unpaused/awake hours

I had to go back to my notes and check lol

[vapid dirge]

Yeah sounds about right. 72 hours/3 days if it's sleeping 12 hours each night without pausing

[sick nova]

I’m probably halfway there, it evolved on Monday, it’s now Friday, I’ve had it unpaused for about 4 hours each day

Tomorrow it gets to be unpaused most of the day

[vapid dirge]

Uhhhh, so I just had my Pantarotchi call for poop? Like he beeped and the toilet button flashed. He had 1 poop. I don't think I've ever seen that

[signal shuttle]

The manual says it can do that actually lol

or at least that some characters can

i didnt realize they would beep though i thought the light would just flash

[signal shuttle]

eyebrow boy should be evolving today... what he gonna be.... probably kabuto 😂

[vapid dirge]

I need to track our runs in the spreadsheet again. Been busy the last few days so I haven't been able to write it down

[sick nova]

Has anyone else in here ever accidentally gotten Micheltchi or did I really do that badly on my first ever Yasashii run 😂

Wait lmao the weirdest thing just happened and I'm convinced I'm going crazy but maybe not

The weight was 28g, but then it pooped and I checked the status menu again and it went down to 27?

Do they lose weight when they poop???

That's crazy hahaha

[vapid dirge]

Lmao I'll have to check this out soon! That would be amazing lol

[signal shuttle]

i guess we all keep our yasashiis at min weight so we didn't notice that

[sick nova]

I was doing good at keeping it at minimum weight but I slipped a little lol

The Japanese log where the person got Oshamatchi, theirs was at like 50 something g when it evolved so I think weight doesn't matter a ton

Obviously I'm not really sure though

[signal shuttle]

yea true

i think they got oshamatchi a few times and it was at different weights each time, one being close to minimum and one being like 90g lol

[sick nova]

That's another thing to try in a future run - I normally never feed snacks past the baby stage but I may do a run where I primarily feed snacks over games and see what happens

Since I always just assumed it worked like the P1/2 but maybe it doesn't

[vapid dirge]

Where are these logs? And how did you guys find them? Is there some website out there with the logs

[signal shuttle]

its a japanese one i found somehow, ive talked about it here before http://www.calley.co.jp/takashima/keiko/diary/sayakaau.html

rough translation of the yasashii bits

Woops my yasashii just reset lol

the shell kind of opened up a bit (bc when i got it i took out the stripped screws by ripping the two halves of the shell apart so its a bit messed up) and that messed up the battery contacts... RIP this run i guess. but i wasn't that excited about what i was gonna get anyway

[sick nova]

My Yasashii just pooped again, and the weight went from 23g to 22g

So they do lose weight when they poop

[signal shuttle]

amazing

[sick nova]

I can’t think of any other tama that does that, it’s kinda hilarious lol

[vapid dirge]

Is this the only vintage model that does that?

[sick nova]

Yes, definitely

Even the connection era models don’t do that

[brave hawk]

That might be good to take note of

[sick nova]

It happened again and I confirmed that they do

[signal shuttle]

so my power is out

yasashii is a good tama for power being out lol

i dont have to look at the screen really at all

im discipline hacking my child atm being careful to set the time to 1 min before sleep and wakeup

im gonna do 10/14 again

[vapid dirge]

Oh, hey guys! I just realized September 2023 is the 25th anniversary of the Yasashii Tamagotchi 😄

Pantarotchi is so adorable. He does a little push-up animation after eating 🥹

[signal shuttle]

aww thats cute lol

i dont really like him or kabuto because they both do that maskutchi rude mouth thing. It freaks me out 😂

[sick nova]

Tamabetchi does that too lol

[signal shuttle]

Michelletchi is more my speed. her mouth is more like a kuchipatchi. (or a tarakotchi ig lol i think shes supposed to be like a counterpart to tarakotchi)

so many rude mouth characters on 1 device

Maybe yasashii will teach me to love them

[opal rampart]

i love the rude mouth guys!

[opal rampart]

the tamago had the funniest feature of any tama imo. if you overfeed it, to can't do anything not even games. but if you give it medicine... it'll poop like 10 times and lose weight lmao 💀

i wonder if it also loses weight when it poops normally? i'll ask elise who's running one in oddpets (or i could be unlazy and put batteries in mine)

[signal shuttle]

i didnt think this was gonna happen but i was awake by 7 AM today so i guess it's a full day of care for hoppetchi lol

[sick nova]

I remember that haha, the tama also has a really funny sprite when it is overweight

As far as I know they don’t lose weight when they poop normally though

This is gonna have me checking every tama I run now to see if they lose weight when they poop lol

[signal shuttle]

yea i have this vague memory that on mimitchi.com she mentioned a tama losing weight when it pooped

[sick nova]

Interesting, and I don’t recall her ever having/running a Yasashii so it wouldn’t have been that

[signal shuttle]

if it was mimitchi.com i saw that then there's only a couple options ,it'd be either the ocean, morino, or osu/mesu

yea lol

actually i was looking at her personal collection recently so its in my history lol http://www.mimitchi.com/html/tlist.htm and yeah she did not have a yasashii

i remember wishing she would make a log for her tamaotch or devil lol

[sick nova]

Same lol

[vapid dirge]

Im so happy she keeps that site up. I really want to archive it though out of fear if she ever takes it down

[sick nova]

Ugh I know, the amount of tama sites that have just been lost to the void over the years

[signal shuttle]

i havent checked to see how much of it is on the wayback machine

[sick nova]

I believe a lot of it is

[sick nova]

Meruhetchi should be evolving today and if he doesn’t it’ll definitely be tomorrow

Interested to see who I’ll get, I’ve done perfect (RJ perfect lol) care and 10/14 discipline

[vapid dirge]

If you don't get meruhetchi then I will be so dumbfounded lol

[sick nova]

I do have Meruhetchi

I’m waiting for him to evolve to adult

[vapid dirge]

Oh I misunderstood lol

Do we have a good idea of which characters are "good" and which are "bad"? And do we know what order they are in?

I've seen this chart around but I have a hard time believe Ginjirotchi Jr is the middle bad character

[sick nova]

I don’t think that chart is very accurate since it depicts Kabuto as a secret character and he’s not

[vapid dirge]

It also shows Kabuto is the secret character which we already have disproven

Yeah

If I had go guess I would say the order is:

1. Oshamatchi
2. Mametchi Jr
3. Ginjirotchi Jr
4. Pantarotchi
5. Kabuto Oyajitchi
6. Tamabetchi
7. Micheltchi

[sick nova]

Possibly but I got Tamabetchi with pretty much perfect care, unless I was punished for disciplining too much there’s no way the care I gave it was the second worst

That’s why the Yasashii is so confusing lol

[vapid dirge]

I just assumed since the bad health characters are usually "uglier" that Tamabetchi would be towards the bottom. All the characters are cute tho

[sick nova]

Oshamatchi being the best and Micheltchi being the worst are the only two that can be confirmed, the rest are so hard to determine lol

Mametchi being second best would make sense

[vapid dirge]

I also figured Ginjirotchi Jr would be 3rd best because he's the most common adult from what I have seen. We generally take "P1/P2" perfect care which seems "average" or "above average" for the Yasashii. And given in P1 he's the 2nd best under Mametchi, putting him right under Mametchi made more sense to me.

Pantarotchi reminds me a lot of Maskutchi from P1 which had me place him under Ginjirotchi Jr like in the P1. He would be "average" care for the P1, and seems like he could be average for the Yasashii as well.

I'm not entirely sure who would be worse, Tamabetchi or Kabuto Oyajitchi. I've just always viewed them as the unhealthy adults. Though if you took perfect care of Mayumarutchi Meruhetchi and still got Tamabetchi then I don't know

I'm not even entirely sure that there is a secret character. I believe the secret characters were always hidden on the packaging for other models, but they didn't hide anything for the Yasashii

[sick nova]

I got Tamabetchi from perfect care of Meruhetchi which was the weird thing

16/14 discipline though so perhaps I over-disciplined

[vapid dirge]

Oh dang that really is bizarre

RJ, did you get Micheltchi directly from the teenager? Do you remember what kind of care you gave?

[sick nova]

I did, I got him directly from Mayumarutchi

I definitely neglected it a lot

[vapid dirge]

It's just weird to me that it's in it's own little bubble at the bottom. The other adult characters are all connected. But the teens aren't either... Gah. I feel like I'm reading way too much into it lol

[signal shuttle]

Yeah that old chart with Kabuto as a a secret character is total bunkus, i bet the person who made it didnt even own a yasashii

i almost dont want to speculate on what the rankings are until we know what the yasashii considers a care mistake lol

[opal rampart]

elise has hers potty trained, though she thinks the weight dropped by 1 when it pooped. i haven't had a chance to run mine but maybe i will soon since i'm just laying here feeling kinda sick

[signal shuttle]

The guidebook doesn't rank them but it does mark Oshamatchi/Mametchi Younger Brother as "healthy", Ginji Younger Brother/Tamabetchi as "average", Pantarotchi/Kabuto/Michelletchi as "unhealthy"

[opal rampart]

get pantarotchi with perfect care
unhealthy character

[sick nova]

This is a good point too

[opal rampart]

hmm i wonder if getting 16/14 discipline just loops the counter back to 0

[signal shuttle]

if it did that we would likely see that happen on the discipline bar itself

And that would definitely be a bug lol

[opal rampart]

perhaps the display is coded separately so to speak

[signal shuttle]

yeahhh i kinda doubt it tbh lol. It's probably just going to behave the same as 14/14

[ionic quarry]

Oshamatchi is the only one we’ve never seen, right? I wonder if they are a secret character, all of the other vintage models have a secret character that evolve from an adult.

[vapid dirge]

I had this thought too lmao. Like what if we have to get one of the other adults first, then take perfect care of that one

[signal shuttle]

the only evidence we have against that is that old japanese log where they had meruhetchi and then 3 days later got oshamatchi

Supposedly lol

[vapid dirge]

Confirmed: Pantarotchi made a poop call and it both beeped and flash the toilet button.

I have only noticed this with Pantarotchi. I've never seen it in the Baby, Child, or Teen stage. I'm not sure if it happens with other adults either

[signal shuttle]

i've never kept any adults long enough to see them poop 😂

that's cool though

[ionic quarry]

I saw it with Ginji as well!

[opal rampart]

the adults are more sophisticated...they yell when they poop

[vapid dirge]

Currently making some pixel artwork for my vintage tamagotchi website 🙂 It's a work in progress. I love Oshamatchi in the tube haha

[sick nova]

Aww, that’s adorable

Kuriten in the cloud is a cute touch

[signal shuttle]

Should be getting my teen today... who am i gonna get...

if i get meruhetchi i think thats a strong indicator that either setting the clock to the right bedtime or the right wake-up time during discipline hacking actually matters (with my money being on bedtime)

[sick nova]

I really thought Meruhetchi would’ve evolved by now but he still hasn’t lol

[signal shuttle]

suspenseful life with yasashii

[sick nova]

Meruhetchi better not disappoint me lol

[brave hawk]

Major Tamagotchi Town energy

[sick nova]

Also since I’ve been using the insomnia hack, he’s been 8 for like 4 days now lol

[sick nova]

Bruh wtf

I got Tamabetchi again

I absolutely gave perfect care, I was careful not to miss anything

The one thing this Tamabetchi and my previous one have in common is that both Hoppetchis were at 10/14 discipline when they evolved into Meruhetchi

This Tamabetchi evolved from a 10/14 discipline Meruhetchi, my first one evolved from a 16/14 discipline Meruhetchi

I’m so puzzled lol

[vapid dirge]

Tamabetchi confirmed as best character /s

[sick nova]

I don’t have time to deal with the baby stage right now so I’m gonna reset in the morning

I think next run I’m gonna try what I mentioned earlier about mostly caring the way I usually do but feeding snacks and playing games equally

And also trying to see if I can get Meruhetchi from a 14/14 discipline Hoppetchi

Farmer boy coming to curse me again

[sick nova]

Okay but this got me thinking: what if Oshamatchi isn’t the best care character but since not many people have had her we’ve all just assumed she is

All the Yasashii growth charts out there are super confusing/unclear so it’s not entirely impossible

Also another thought: maybe the discipline in the child stage is more important than I initially thought

[signal shuttle]

Yeah in the past i only got mayumarutchi from hoppetchi but tbh i'm suspicious of that result now lol

[signal shuttle]

the only evidence against that is that the book says she and mametchi younger brother are 'healthy'; the other two rankings are 'normal' and 'unhealthy'

the closest thing we have to an official growth chart are those stupid nearly-meaningless rankings 😂

[sick nova]

I think next run I'm gonna try 14/14 with everything else the same as what I've done before to get Meruhetchi

Because the discipline in the child stage not being full before evolving into Meruhetchi is the only thing I can think of as to why perfect care keeps giving me Tamabetchi lol

I think I mentioned that the first time I got him but the fact that it happened again makes me more suspicious

[signal shuttle]

if i get meruhetchi from 10/14 hoppetchi i'll try 12/14

[sick nova]

Definitely worth a try

I'm just stumped lol, if Tamabetchi really is considered "average" there's no way the care I gave Meruhetchi was average

The discipline is the only thing I can think of

[signal shuttle]

yea in the past i've pooh-pooh'ed the idea of a type 1/type 2 system existing in yasashii but im not so sure about that anymore lol

[sick nova]

Ugh, all this did was just make me more confused than before lmao

At least with the first Tamabetchi I couldn't be 100% certain I never missed anything, this time I am 100% certain

[signal shuttle]

I mean if it is a type thing. Maybe you can only get the type 1 from full discipline; even on P1 the best adult you can get from Type 2 Tamatchi is Maskutchi. so it would kinda make sense

[sick nova]

That would make sense

[signal shuttle]

Wait have you tried 14/14 discipline on hoppetchi before i forget

[sick nova]

I haven't

[signal shuttle]

or 16/14

yea i dont trust my results anymore now that you got meruhetchi on 10/14 lol so maybe it is possible

[sick nova]

The highest I managed with just pausing and not discipline hacking was 12/14

[signal shuttle]

i did get meruhetchi with discipline hacking that one time so it can work at least lol

[sick nova]

The 12/14 one was the one that got accidentally reset so I never got to see what adult it became

[signal shuttle]

if i get meruhetchi and then tamabetchi from 12/14 discipline i'll feel good that at least we're seeing consistent results lol

[signal shuttle]

Ok i just heard the transformation sound

I haven't checked yet. I'm afraid to

MOTHERF--------------

[sick nova]

[signal shuttle]

😂

I hate it here

[sick nova]

Kabuto?

Oh wait teen

[signal shuttle]

No i got mayumarutchi yea

lol

man

the hearts never emptied although they got to 2/3 empty a few times.... although again that didnt stop me from getting meruhetchi before 😂

[sick nova]

That didn't stop me from getting Meruhetchi before either

[signal shuttle]

i was careful about setting the time for discipline hacking so it shouldnt have been able to know the difference

and i've gotten meruhetchi from discipline hacking before

Alright now i wanna know if i can get meruhetchi again from 12/14 lol

[vapid dirge]

Ooh boy I need to track your guys' runs

[vapid dirge]

Hey RJ, what discipline level was Meruhetchi at before he evolved into Tamabetchi? Also did you give Perfect, or RJ Perfect care?

[vapid dirge]

What was the discipline level for Hoppetchi? Do you know the length of the baby stage in minutes?

Current run list I have. Probably missed one or two here and there. Tried to be as accurate as possible. Green are completed. Orange are in progress

Also rhubarb, just to make sure I understood you correctly. Did you say to classify all your runs as "Perfect" care, except for when you got Meruhetchi? Like was that the only run you didn't give P1/P2 perfect care?

[signal shuttle]

(1) 10/14 (2) no i dont track that

[signal shuttle]

yea i guess thats accurate

i feel demotivated after yesterday, i have the teen asleep still lol. probably gonna turn it off for a while

[sick nova]

10/14, and I would classify it as RJ perfect lol

ie. I never let the hearts drop below 1 empty

[sick nova]

Restarting

[vapid dirge]

Can you please keep track of the baby stage length 🙂 I'll add this to the run log

[sick nova]

Sure

I’ll note here that it hatched at 10:57am

My last run was around the same hatching time

[vapid dirge]

From what I've tracked so far, most baby stages last about 60-70 minutes. We had two outliers at 90 minutes and 125 minutes. I had the 125 minute one and now I'm questioning if that's accurate, cause that was just so long.

I tracked all the minutes though so I'm pretty sure it is

[signal shuttle]

Haven't you gotten meruhetchi with a variety of different baby stage lengths

[sick nova]

I have had baby stages as long as 2+ hours

[sick nova]

Yes

[vapid dirge]

Hmm

[sick nova]

Yeah I don’t think the baby stage length actually matters, interesting that it’s different every time though

[vapid dirge]

I'm wanting to reset my Pantarotchi today so I can start a new experimental run, but I feel so sentimental about it 😭 I feel so guilty about resetting

[sick nova]

Jeez this is a long baby stage, it’s already been almost 95 minutes and it’s still a baby LOL

[opal rampart]

doesn't want to grow up...clearly a toys r us kid

[sick nova]

It finally evolved, after 114 minutes lol

[sick nova]

So for this run I’m mostly doing everything I did before, but I’m experimenting with feeding snacks

[vapid dirge]

So basically RJ Perfect care, 10/14 discipline, and snacks only?

[sick nova]

I’m gonna do a mixture of games and snacks

Also 14/14 discipline because I’ve not tried getting Meruhetchi with that yet

[ionic quarry]

Unfortunately I’ve got a very busy few weeks so I can’t run mine until October maybe, but I’m still watching interest!!

[vapid dirge]

Can't wait to have to join the runs again 😄 Life always comes first

[opal rampart]

i love how this thread has been revived. i don't own a yasashii and yet its mysteries are enthralling to me

[sick nova]

Yeah haha, like I mentioned in #tamagotchi-general earlier, it's a shame the Yasashii is so expensive but I post about mine a lot so other people can live vicariously

[signal shuttle]

i took the batteries out of mine i need to take a break lol 💀

[sick nova]

Very understandable lol

I was super frustrated with mine last night, and I will be if I get Tamabetchi again this time

The end goal with this run is just get anyone but Tamabetchi

[signal shuttle]

i got Ginjirotchi Younger Bro from my meruhetchi

with 12/14 discipline

[vapid dirge]

So much for an "easy" tamagotchi haha. Yasashii causes burnout

[sick nova]

I managed 2.5 hours unpaused today but I am heading to a friend's birthday party so I doubt I'll be unpausing my Yasashii again before it's time for it to go to sleep

[signal shuttle]

im just annoyed i keep getting mayumarutchi lol

[brave hawk]

The things we do for science

[sick nova]

First Hoppetchi of mine allowed to indulge in sundaes lol, I bet he's happy

[vapid dirge]

Heheh yum! 😋

I read up on the Morini tamagotchi wiki and it shows that some evolutions are entirely dependent on certain weights at certain ages.

I know we have all been keeping the weight down for Meruhetchi, but I wonder if the weight affects the adult at all

Like certain thresholds of 40-49g give you certain characters

[sick nova]

Yeah, the Morino is a lot of fun because you actually have to make your tama fat for certain adults

Hoppetchi's weight isn't super high since I've still been playing games somewhat, but it's still quite a bit above minimum

[signal shuttle]

Heres a random question. What volume setting do u guys usually play at

(i play at medium volume)

[sick nova]

…muted lol

I think I’ve taken it off mute once this whole run

I usually run my tamas muted - with vintage tamas I’ll leave the sound on while I’m trying to catch discipline calls but mute it after I’ve gotten the discipline calls I need

But since the Yasashii flashes when it needs discipline I don’t even need to do that

[sick nova]

Here’s how it’s currently going

[vapid dirge]

Medium normally

[sick nova]

lol

The volume switch is a blessing though

[vapid dirge]

My pantarothci passed away yesterday. Gonna start a new run soon, probably this weekend. I wanted to today but I just started a Morino and kinda don't have the energy for both

[signal shuttle]

aww RIP pantarotchi 😭 well at least canonically hes not dead he just went back to his home planet

hes makin the rude mouth back on tamagotchi planet with all the tamabetchis and kabuto oyajitchis

[signal shuttle]

Theres no way this is the case but like. How wild would it be if the volume slider were used for more stuff than just changing the volume 😂

(i actually dont remember what setting i was at when i got Meruhe the first time, i guess it probably was Medium though)

[sick nova]

Lol that would be wild

All of my Merus have been obtained on mute

This is unrelated but my current run ended up being pretty colour coordinated lol, which wasn’t even entirely intentional

[ionic quarry]

I keep mine on medium as well. When j first got it I would turn it up to loud if I was leaving the room, but now I know better than to let it call for anything 😅

[vapid dirge]

What if it's an "easy mode" setting in addition to volume lmao

[sick nova]

After experiencing the Mezamatch, the Yasashii’s “loud” setting is quiet in comparison to me lol

The Mezamatch has a volume slider too but it’s basically just “loud” or “ear piercing”

[vapid dirge]

Finished my website pic 🙂 I'm really happy with it. Website is mostly under construction since I'm redoing a lot of it, so I'll be making a lot of changes soon. Currently have a few logs written on it though for the Yasashii, Osu/Mesu, Forest

Btw I posted my 2nd Yasashii log on my website if you guys are interested 🙂 http://tamagotchicrossing.com/tamagotchi/yasashii/log2.php

[vapid dirge]

Actually here is a scaled image

[vapid dirge]

Just FYI, looks like the Ginjirotchi.ca owner got Pantarotchi from Meruhetchi with 100% discipline. He didn't specify if he gave it good, perfect, or RJ perfect care

[vapid dirge]

Just to confirm rhubarb, after you got Mayumarutchi this round you are indefinitely pausing/resetting?

Just checking to see if I should mark this run as completed

[signal shuttle]

I already turned it off so that mayumarutchi is GONE 😂

[vapid dirge]

Gotcha lmao 🤣

[sick nova]

Yeah I think that’s the same one he told me about

[sick nova]

Not much to report on today - I still have Hoppetchi and am up to 8/14 discipline. I haven’t even really had to discipline hack because I’m busy enough that it’s paused most of the time at the moment anyway

I think the past 4 days I’ve managed like 2 hours unpaused each lol

Slow progress is better than no progress though, that’s what I tell myself

[vapid dirge]

Yep 🙂 can't wait to see what happens though. Would be nice to tick off the 14/14 with RJ perfect care route. I suspect Meruhetchi

[sick nova]

It’s a bit different from the RJ perfect care route technically since I’m also feeding a lot of snacks, it weighs around 40g at the moment

[vapid dirge]

Chunky boy haha

[vapid dirge]

Which one of you is this 🤔

[sick nova]

I don’t use Reddit so definitely not me lol

I don’t think letting more than one heart drop necessarily counts as a care mistake, because I’ve gotten Meruhetchi before even with accidentally doing that

I still don’t know what does count as a care mistake, but it’s probably not that

[vapid dirge]

Same. I think it's safe to say that letting it starve, missing discipline calls, and not healing sickness are care mistakes.

Aside from that I have no idea.

[sick nova]

I think leaving the lights on at night would also count as one

[signal shuttle]

I'd bet $5 thats azure

Does the yasashii actually let you miss discipline calls, i just remember waiting 40 minutes and i still couldnt feed it or play with it

[sick nova]

I’m not even sure if it does

[sick nova]

Oh yeah I just noticed the username, probably is

[sick nova]

Ugh we’re so close

[vapid dirge]

Wooo. Do you think he will evolve this weekend?

[sick nova]

Probably, I think he’s only got a few more hours to go

I may discipline hack for the last one and just leave it unpaused for the rest of tonight

[sick nova]

Woo, discipline hacked and it called pretty much immediately

So now we wait

[vapid dirge]

yeee

[sick nova]

If I get Mayumarutchi it’s for sure because of the snacks, or because of the discipline level

Everything else has been the same

[vapid dirge]

I suspect it will be the snacks. What's its weight atm

[sick nova]

It’s not great hahaha

Care has otherwise been totally perfect

[vapid dirge]

Oh boy soooo fat haha

[sick nova]

My cat just reached out her paw and knocked my Yasashii to the ground, I’m lucky it didn’t just reset from that LOL (this is why I store it on a high shelf when I am not at home)

I’ve had it reset from really minor drops before so that was lucky

[vapid dirge]

Oh my God lol. Is your floor a hard material too? I'd die if mine fell and broke. We have tile here 😭

[sick nova]

Unfortunately it is

The tama is fine though, not a mark on it

I really have to watch it around my cat though, she likes to just randomly stick her paws out and swipe things

Things that are sitting on tables and not even moving, because she’s weird

(She’s orange and has an orange cat brain)

[signal shuttle]

[brave hawk]

Guilty

[brave hawk]

three cheers for pyromania

[opal rampart]

my bird would do that... anything small, light, and mobile was at risk of being violently hurled to the ground lol

[vapid dirge]

Hey guys, sorry I know this isn't related to Devilgotchi but I'm not sure which other channel to ask in.

I have this growth chart which contradicts the Wiki guide. They have the Stage 1 and Stage 2 devils switched. It's been so long since my last run I can't remember which is correct

Wiki: https://tamagotchi.fandom.com/wiki/Debirutchi_no_Tamagotchi/Character_list

I'll delete the message in a bit as to not clutter 😛

[opal rampart]

i just looked at the wiki...i'm not sure i understand, they seem the same to me

oh wait

[vapid dirge]

Basically they have the 2nd row flipped

[opal rampart]

like the ones they evolve into is different

[vapid dirge]

Yeah

Like this growth chart shows:
Deviltchi -> Chubby Deviltchi
Devil Zucchitchi -> Devil Oyajitchi

I believe the wiki is the opposite:
Deviltchi -> Devil Oyajitchi
Devil Zucchitchi -> Chubby Deviltchi

Both can turn into Ghost Deviltchi though I know for certain. I just don't remember the other two

[opal rampart]

nods, i'm asking around now

"I'm fairly certain I've gotten Oyajitchi from Deviltchi" she said

elise from oddpets i mean

this person said their zuccitchi became the chubby devil: https://www.tamatalk.com/threads/a-magical-witch-a-devilgotchi.199332/#post-3376142 (note that the had a couple resets, so ignore the first few posts)

so it seems the wiki is correct and the image is wrong, unless we can find proof otherwise (like maybe it's possible for any child to become any teen, kinda doubt that tho)

[vapid dirge]

Yeah that's sounding more correct. I remember seeing this chart too which I thought I determined was the correct one

[opal rampart]

i would say so!

[sick nova]

Interesting

I’m planning on starting a Devil run soon

[vapid dirge]

Halloween run :D? I'm doing 2 runs throughout October

[sick nova]

I usually start in September because I pause a lot and it takes me a while to get to adulthood, but I didn’t get around to it this month

[sick nova]

Wait wtf, why did Hoppetchi just get sick for NO reason (I’ve never had a Hoppetchi just get randomly sick)

The hearts weren’t empty, they were all filled

It’s gotta be the snacks lol, I suspect a Mayumarutchi is imminent

[signal shuttle]

Acknowledging that we Don't Know Anything ™️ about care mistakes on the yasashii, getting sick on P1/P2 is not a care mistake so its not necessarily one on yasashii either

[sick nova]

That is true, I guess we’ll know once he evolves

[signal shuttle]

i thought it was mildly interesting that i actually DID have a hoppetchi get sick, and it was in the one run where i fed a lot of snacks in the baby stage lol. It was sick when it evolved

and iirc you have never had that happen even though you always snack it up in the baby stage 😂

[sick nova]

That is interesting

I always exclusively feed snacks in the baby stage

[signal shuttle]

i think i didn't exclusively feed snacks, i may have just snacked when the happy hearts got really low but would play games to top it up

God im remembering how awful the yasashii game is again 😂

[sick nova]

Yeah lol

This run I’ve been about 50/50 on snacks and games

[vapid dirge]

It's from the snacks

[sick nova]

Yeah, it has to be

But now I’m curious if that’s a care mistake and I’ve doomed myself to Mayumarutchi (in which case I will reset) or if it’s not

We’ll just have to wait and see

[signal shuttle]

Time to start tracking down old-timer bandai employees who were involved in the programming

idk where to even start looking for that though idk if japanese people use linkedin

[vapid dirge]

Me either, but that would be so sick having someone to interview on the vintage era

I'm just curious, would any of this information be listed in a patent, and would that be publicly available information?

It would be interesting to see if we could pull a patent on the Yasashii Tamagotchi. It would likely be only in Japanese though

[sick nova]

Someone pulled up the Osu/Mesu patent recently so a Yasashii one has to exist, it’s probably just impossible to find

[vapid dirge]

Any word on Meruhetchi RJ?

[sick nova]

Hasn't evolved yet, I thought it would

I did pause it a bunch this morning because I was out

[sick nova]

Still nothing lol - all this delay for what’s probably gonna be disappointment

[ionic quarry]

I keep checking the thread in anticipation!

[sick nova]

welp

Snacks do matter, folks

That was a worthy sacrifice at least

Gonna reset in the morning

I guess next I need to try 14/14 discipline without the snacks, just to prove 100% that it was the snacks (and probably the sickness that resulted from the snacks)

[signal shuttle]

Bro

I mean I don't trust my results anymore but i got Mayumarutchi from 100% discipline with no snacks. If you see the same thing then I definitely think we should call it that you can't get Meruhetchi from 100% discipline

[vapid dirge]

Yeah trying 14/14 with RJ Perfect and no snacks would be the Control test for that.

Probably best to first experiment with RJ perfect care and no snacks at varying levels of discipline first, and then start with snacks later.

Question, what weight was it at when it evolved? Do you know how many snacks you gave it?

[sick nova]

The weight was 38g but I honestly don’t know how many snacks I fed lol

Enough to make it get sick apparently

[signal shuttle]

Oh by the way RJ there's no way this matters but you had it muted still right 😂

[sick nova]

Yes

I’m probably not going to get around to resetting today, maybe tomorrow lol

Also after this run I really want to do a devil run so I will probably deactivate my Yasashii temporarily

I don’t think my sanity can handle two demanding vintages at the moment

[vapid dirge]

Yeah same. I've been logging multiple vintages over the past month or two, and I'm burnt out. Need a break with something easy going.

I'm also going to run a devil at least once in a October as a Halloween run. I'll be logging that for my website. Don't feel I have the space for the Yasashii at the moment but I will definitely start it up soon

[ionic quarry]

It’s a lot of effort, especially if you need to provide RJ Perfect Care™️ to get a good character 😵‍💫

[vapid dirge]

http://tamagotchicrossing.com/index.php

My website is coming together nicely 😄 Been a struggle thus far but I'm starting to feel happy with it

[ionic quarry]

It looks really good!!

[opal rampart]

very retro, i love it!

[vapid dirge]

Hey guys, just letting you know.

I did two runs recently, both ended up with Mayumarutchi ;-; I tried RJ perfect method and messed up a few times though. I really didn't think I messed up that bad. Hunger did drop to 0/4 when they woke up a few times when discipline hacking, but I filled immediately.

Run 1 - Messed up a few times, didn't track how much. Otherwise perfect care.
-10/14 discipline
-Minimum weight + no snacks

Run 2 - Near RJ Perfect care, messed up a few times as shown below. Otherwise perfect care.
-10/14 discipline
-Minimum weight + no snacks
Misses:
-2/4 hunger, 2/4 happiness
-1/4 hunger, 2/4 happiness
-2/4 hunger, 2/4 happiness
-2/4 hunger, 3/4 happiness

It could either be the heart drops are really, really punishing, or I just didn't reach a 12/14 discipline threshold

Feeling a little demoralized again cause I was setting alarms every 20 minutes. Messed up a few times but I didn't think it would have been that bad

[sick nova]

I got Meruhetchi with 10/14 so it shouldn’t be that

[vapid dirge]

Question, if I insomnia hacked it (paused it so it never slept), would it ever call for discipline? Or is waking up mandatory for the discipline call to trigger?

[sick nova]

It wouldn’t, waking up is necessary for the discipline call

[signal shuttle]

Except for that one random time Farmerboy called twice in a day right? lol

Feeling a little demoralized

now you know how i felt...

[sick nova]

lol yeah

Fun fact: my Yasashii is still on my shelf on the egg screen from that time 2 months ago when I got Mayumarutchi, reset it, said I was gonna restart, and never did

[vapid dirge]

lol I don't blame you

[sick nova]

I’ve been too busy, I’m currently only running an Entama which has been great since its evolutions aren’t care based so I can just give it the bare minimum and be chilling

The polar opposite of the Yasashii basically

[vapid dirge]

Have you guys had any issues with the Yasashii screen fading? It seems like the LCD screen has been slowly getting more faded over time. I tried replacing the batteries but that's not fixing it either.

It's starting to spook me because I can't just replace the LCD screen from a junk tama lol

[sick nova]

I haven’t, mine’s still perfectly fine

[signal shuttle]

my Yasashii was extremely faded when i got it lol

i replaced the polarizer film and that made it usable, but still not very good (you can see it in the pictures i've posted here, the characters are JUST BARELY visible lol)

i'm assuming the fading is related to how discolored the shell and packaging are too, the thing clearly spent way too much time exposed to sunlight

[vapid dirge]

Saw this post lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/tamagotchi/s/BZVvbt2vuD

[sick nova]

Haha

I love seeing people discover that the Yasashii is actually hard

[signal shuttle]

People have to pause it for days at a time and set alarms just to get the good health Teen, and no one has gotten the best health adult "Oshamatchi" that we know of, except for some very vague log from a Japanese grandma in the 90s/early 2000s. It's so difficult to get this one right.

ngl i have now fantasized about getting extra yasashiis to try to get them decapped and dump the ROMs

but i'm still waiting for my guy to image the mothra ROM i sent him 6 months ago, and i don't feel like dropping that much cash. SO

[sick nova]

Hahaha whoever wrote that obviously lurked in this thread ||(still not ashamed of the alarm setting lol)||

[signal shuttle]

lol yea they def did

[misty stirrup]

HAPPY NEW YEARRRRR friends!!!! 🥰🥳😃😊
Quite literally… beyonddddd happy!!!
RJJJJ!!! @sick nova Followed your method to a T! (Or to an R? Hahah!) and we managed to raise MERUHETCHI!!!!!! We did it!!!! Wish I could have captured the moment when they evolved.. but was definitely living.. and LOVING the moment!!

A lil vid capturing their hanging out 🥰🥰 awww!!

Because there were times that hunger and happiness decreased by one at the same time (or almost at the same time), I was totally expecting Mayumarutchi (aka the brow guy) haha!!!

But this is what we did to raise him/their stats:

Discipline: 10/14
Minimum weight at all times.
Checked in every 10/15 minutes.
Paused at night. Unpaused in the morning, filled all hungry/happy hearts right away.

You guys are geniusessss 🥰🥰🙏🏻🙏🏻 and cannot show you my gratitude enoughhhh!! Praying for no reset glitch haha, as we continue this amazing adventure! (happened once before… knock on wood!!) but we have Duracell extra strength (hopefully) fresh batteries! Pausing does suck batteries faster so... we shall see! 😅🤞

[ionic quarry]

Ah well done!! Congratulations!

[misty stirrup]

@ionic quarry Thank you soooo very much Jacksonnnn!!!!! 🙏🙏💖💖🤗🤗 it hasn't sinked innnnn yet!!!!

[signal shuttle]

MERUHE....

Btw, if you are concerned about battery consumption on the pause screen from the buttons flashing, i think what we landed on was that you should just modify the time so that it stays asleep longer

i.e. when you go to bed, set the clock to whenever that character goes to bed, and then change the clock back after you wake up

it should probably be safe

[misty stirrup]

Superb tip @signal shuttle Rhubarb!!! ☺️❤️ really appreciate ya!! Thankfully Meruhe wakes up a little later in the day, so that makes it a bit easier. Besides discipline and no heart drops, will attempt playing tons and tons of games beyond the four happy hearts. I wonder if there is a hidden tier/type counter that gets closer to the so called “Perfect Care”, every time you win a game… kinda like how you raise Kikitchi/Mimitchi w 15 perfect games in the Uni? Or somewhat similar to the Super Kuchi index in Santagotchi? No idea… but will definitely give it a shot!!

[signal shuttle]

Who knows lol, nobody has been able to deduce a pattern except that RJ's method reliably works for meruhetchi

could be just about anything

[brave hawk]

Hopefully now we're one step closer to Oshamatchi

[opal rampart]

wow congrats crimson!! it's always fun to see updates in this thread. i hope someday one of you fine peeps can get oshamatchi

[misty stirrup]

Meruhe is now 12/14 discipline as of today (Fri, Jan 12th, 4.04 pm) We are probably getting close to evolution!

• 10 yo (sort of lol... I messed up one AM/PM bedtime so I know it's not 11 yo) 🤞
• RJ Perfect care... there are times when BOTH happy and hungry deplete by one, so I am not sure if that works against us.
• On and off pausing, when I can't keep a close eye on him.
• At least 100+ games played during teen stage, about half won, half lost... Didn't keep count of how many were played, but we did play beyond the standard/full 4 happy hearts. Lol. Like the Umino, skipping animations and enjoying Meruhe playing fastttt hehehehe 😅😅😅 At least, there is no octopus to stalk us. lol
  Who knows... maybe 90's japanese grandma was playing tons of games with their Yasashii hahah.

Just praying that batteries ... hold... on... just.. a ... bit ... longerrrr! Playing tons of games can drain batteries fast... sometimes I do turn the volume down when I am spam, spam, spamming games.

I put a fresh set of Duracell Power Boost in the beginning of the hatch... so... super excited and nervous all at once 🙈🙈 ngl... As long as someone other than Samurai Oyajitchi appears, it would be awesome! 😅 (nothing against mighty Oyajitchi. 💖)

[misty stirrup]

@opal rampart Huge thankssss coolbug!! 🙏💖🫂 big big tamahugssss

[ionic quarry]

That sounds like great care and a lot of hard work!! Really excited to see who you get!!

[signal shuttle]

from fresh batteries i never had any issues with it running out tbh. In fact i'm pretty sure i ran a single pair of batteries the entire time i was playing it

So i got from baby -> adulthood like... 5 times i think? (but i reset right after getting to adult so it wasnt a full lifespan)

That Yasashii game is horrible though

i think i like it less than the ocean game

[opal rampart]

wow that's saying a lot....

[misty stirrup]

Tamabetchi… Oh well…! 🙈😭😅 At least it wasn’t Oyajitchi heh heh. Tons and tons of games just doesn’t seem to affect outcome then.
When Meruhe evolved he had 12/14 discipline. And evo into Tamabetchi was 14/14. From what I can remember you guys attempted 14/14 discipline in both toddler and teen right? Although a 14/14 Hoppetchi evolves into Mayumaru right?

A less creepy pic heheh

[vapid dirge]

I swear Tamabetchi is a good health characters xD

[signal shuttle]

At the very least, I think it's true that nobody has gotten meruhetchi with 14/14 discipline

that's pretty cool you got tamabetchi though, i think only RJ has ever gotten him

she got him with 10/14 at the teen stage, just checked earlier in this thread lol

i'm not sure anybody has done 12/14 yet with that level of care

[brave hawk]

I mean, it is in the upper half of the growth chart

[grand rampart]

this thread has been quiet but just wanna share someone in IG manage to get oshamatchi today

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6WXQYuByBx/?igsh=MXVuNThsaWpuczQxbg==

cubewaters

激动的心❤️挑战成功❤️

#yasashiioshamatchi
#yasashii
#meruhetchi
#yasashiitamagotchi

Instagram

[misty stirrup]

Hey my lovelies!!! 💖🙌🥳 I was coming here to share the exact same. OMGGGG HOLY SMOKES!!!!!!!!! FRIGGIN HUGEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
They might be the first tamaparent to document Osha in modern/current (non 90's hehe) times!!!!!! 😱😱😱😱

I have reached out to see if they were able to document this amazing achievement, and see if they would be willing to share. 🙈😅🎉 I had very specific questions hehe!
it is a day to...
CELEBRATEEEEE BIGGGG!!!!

[vapid dirge]

Holy crap that's awesome!!!!

[signal shuttle]

HOLY...........

https://www.instagram.com/cubewaters/p/C2U2uvjBt2N/?img_index=1

The flex of 2 meruhetchis at the same time lol

[misty stirrup]

They were so kind and generous to share their methods!!! 🌞🌞🥰🥰
Here's is what they did differently.

Child Stage:

• No snacks on child stage, just games and applying RC's method to the T.

__After evolution to Meruhetchi: __

• It seems like how quickly you fill the empty heart makes a big difference. She said "10 seconds"! Just like in the morning when you wake him up from pause... you have to fill those hearts right awayyy!
• In this stage, you can feed a snack after a happiness heart empties, but then play two games to keep that weight at minimum. Playing and winning more games than happiness hearts can handle (overcompensation a bit haha) makes no difference... as it still resulted in Tamabetchi lol.
• She observed that times when hearts empty (even -1) are random, so we have to be constantly vigilant.

Here are her own words and findings:

*After Meru need to put high attention to it, i will pause it when i am not free.
❤️Fill the heart immediately not more than 10 seconds
❤️lightest weight
❤️gv snack and no games, after giving snack, play game to reduce weight
❤️full training

So i tried to think another way, because i count that if we play games, one game is ard 10 seconds, if win, if lose we need more times to go, so maybe this make us cant get good care*

E is for "Eat", G is for "Games"

[grand rampart]

the handwritten notes 😅 so dedicated haha

[signal shuttle]

I guess she was able to get full training because she paused it so much

Did she pause it while it was sleeping?

Eh maybe that doesnt matter lol

[misty stirrup]

My suspicion/assumption is that she did. 😊 just like with Meruhetchi.

[misty stirrup]

What I asked her as well is if she was able to train all 14/14 discipline for Meruhe... since it seemed that 12/14 was almost guaranteed Meruhe following RC's method, whereas 14/14 would result in Mayumarutchi? Couldn't tell.

[vapid dirge]

This is so wild, wow

So much for "easy" tamagotchi lol

[misty stirrup]

It makes P1's and P2's seem like child play in comparison... oh, wait... 😂

Imagine early death by snacks, like the original re-releases, on the Yasashii. That would make Oshamatchi impossible. LOL

One more thing!
17 hours+ awaken hours to get meruhetchi... which I think we documented here before (although it shows that consistency I think?)

[amber saffron]

hope dun mind for the ugly handwriting🙈

[signal shuttle]

Tell us your secrets 👀

[brave hawk]

Oh my god oh my god OH MY GOD

Oh I hope they'll post as many sprites as they can

[amber saffron]

keep checking the status of hungry and happiness🙈,need high attention

[signal shuttle]

OMG...

[amber saffron]

Hope u all can get it soon

My another meru evolve to Oshamatchi again

[signal shuttle]

Have you noticed a threshold for how many times you can miss checking hearts, which then gave you a bad character

Like, if you accidentally forgot to check on hoppetchi 2 or 3 times, that got you Mayumarutchi

[amber saffron]

🙈i keep pressing non stop

[signal shuttle]

WIld....

[amber saffron]

Think need to good care at hoppetchi stage also, no miss

[signal shuttle]

Here's another one -- is the 10 seconds to fill hearts thing like... empirical? Like did you notice if you take a minute to fill hearts, that gives you bad characters? lol

This is just so insane to me 😂

[amber saffron]

I feel like really didnt miss, because i keep pressing non stop😂, need to prepare new batteries before starting

[signal shuttle]

BTW were they always at full training?

[amber saffron]

Yes

Full training

[signal shuttle]

Ok cool. Lol we had a theory that full training was actually bad

God i wanna get the ROM dumped on the yasashii so bad

How tf is it programmed that makes it like this. Wanna know if it's intentional or if it looks like a bug lol

[amber saffron]

😊

[signal shuttle]

@uncut schooner Join us

[uncut schooner]

I don’t even have the big egg xD

[brave hawk]

Another one?!

[brave hawk]

Here's all the sprites I've seen so far

[vapid dirge]

I'd love to animate the sprites and such but I'd need the recording of each so i could capture each frame 😍

[fluid brook]

7:22 PM

On my way to get Jr Mametchi

this is taking its time to hatch lol

7:27 it hatched and i fed it

i’m going to report on this like Peridot from Steven Universe lmfao

[signal shuttle]

please do i like seeing people's progress in here lol

[fluid brook]

i already forgot that this specimen depends on me.
after hearing it call me twice, i’ve come back to find it miserable and starving with a pile of droppings next to it.

FIXED IT

[signal shuttle]

At least there arent care mistakes in the child stage. Probably

God the design of the yasashii is so cool

Having the buttons for each function is genius

[novel dagger]

Hello!! I finally got my hands on my 🦄 ! Is there a way to pause it? I'm sad it resets when you take out the batteries. Looks like there are no breaks with the Yasashii 😅

[signal shuttle]

you can pause it the same as any vintage tama - put it into set clock mode

(i dont remember offhand what the button combo is to do that, maybe somebody else will chime in)

that white shell is so nice btw, that's the one i wish i had lol

[brave hawk]

I think you need to press both of the little buttons at the same time?

[signal shuttle]

i've been on-and-off looking at the yasashii ROM over the last month or so, been kinda busy with real life stuff so haven't been able to prioritize it

also the emulation that works for every other model doesn't work very well for the yasashii, which you'd expect due to the screen being entirely different (i.e. there are no rows of icons that light up). and something is weird with the clock too like the minutes counter goes up by 1 every time the seconds go up by 1 lol

some interesting finds though:
(1) having 3 poops on the screen is basically a care mistake (making this the only device where that's the case although people often have a misconception that it is on other devices)
(2) there is RNG in the growth chart for the adults lol. You can meet the conditions for oshamatchi and based on a coin flip you could get mametchi instead
(3) as a technical note, the yasashii code has some resemblances to the mothra and genjintch code. i wasn't expecting this tbh, i was expecting to start from scratch again (but this is interesting to me personally since my pet theory is that the tamaotch was contracted out - so this establishes that the mothra & genjintch likely were not)

weirdly, it does not seem like leaving hearts empty, leaving lights on when it goes to sleep, or letting the discipline call go unanswered causes a care mistake lol. but that may be due to the funky emulation

cause right now i can basically just completely ignore it and it still turns into meruhetchi lol. so something is clearly missing but idk yet what it is

this is what it looks like in emulator right now lol

[vapid dirge]

You are a Saint for running these sims omg. Did yoy have to buy a yasashii and deconstruct it to read the rom?

[signal shuttle]

i sent a sacrifice yasashii to a guy named InfosecDJ (https://infosec.exchange/@infosecdj) who decapped it and got an image, and then another guy Azya (https://twitter.com/OneBitOnePixel) dumped the ROM

azya (@OneBitOnePixel) on X

Research on vintage LCD Games. Creating games and stuff for retro devices.
https://t.co/XgJBjzMwxU
Donate: https://t.co/Y9zeNvStUA

Twitter

actually i sent InfosecDJ two sacrifice yasashiis and encouraged him to sell the other one if he didn't need it for the decapping process. been meaning to check in what he ended up doing with it lol

(i got the sacrifice units cheap cause they were sold as non-working, which was not true for either of them lol)

[brave hawk]

Oh wow that's kinda scummy

God no wonder why it's been such a struggle for people to get Oshamatchi

[vapid dirge]

Might I ask how cheap and where? Nearly all I'm seeing across eBay and Yahoo Japan Auction are minimum of $900

Maybe 4 years ago I bought my blue one for $500ish
They've skyrocketed along Devils and Santas ;-;

[signal shuttle]

they were $400 on mercari

not exactly cheap but very good for yasashiis. And worth it for the cause

[brave hawk]

🫡

[quaint obsidian]

is this the guidebook for the yasashii? it looks so thin, theres hardly any pages

or is it the manual that came with the unit

[vapid dirge]

Last I recall there were a good few pages to it. Not a book or anything but like 4-7 pages.

But yes. That is it, I just don't know if it's missing any pages

[quaint obsidian]

wow pretty nice it got a big full colored glossy manual

[quaint obsidian]

what is this animation it’s doing after eating where it’s extending its body

(not the weight lifting part)

I’m also wondering about the days to evolution for each character stage

[vapid dirge]

Not sure 😮 could just be like a "I'm happy and energized!" type of animation?

[quaint obsidian]

it almost looks like it’s struggling to swallow lol

[signal shuttle]

It's begging

it makes that animation when you feed it but its hearts aren't full yet

i forget the japanese term that it uses in the manual lol

おねだり

[signal shuttle]

I didn't get this far lol. i was still researching the evolution mechanics

[quaint obsidian]

do u need someone to test stuff?

since u mentioned the emulator is funky

[quaint obsidian]

took under 30 hours to reach this guy i think

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrows-annoyed-mad-angry-gif-16896798

[signal shuttle]

No, i'm not even far enough to have theories lol

[vapid dirge]

FLCL ❤️

[brave hawk]

I still can't believe the pillows disbanded

[quaint obsidian]

WHAT

omg i cant believe that happened and only at the end of last month 😢

rip to absolute legends

[brave hawk]

Happy 25th anniversary, FLCL...

[fluid brook]

i'm actually committing to running a yasashii for once

[celest stream]

Hey all! I've seen a fair few posts/comments etc about how the Yasashii game is hard and more about chance. My brain is a little funny with pattern recognition and I've jotted down a few notes I've picked up since I got my Yasashii 3 days ago.

All the games I've played in the last hour and a half: https://eatrunliftme.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/yasashiigame.jpg

I've found there are some highly repeated game combinations.
My theory is there's a set of pattern strings it follows, not that it's just a random button.

(Discipline button marked as ❤️
Flush button marked as 🐥
Status button marked as ⚖️ )

High repeat chance:
🐥❤️⚖️❤️🐥
🐥❤️🐥❤️⚖️
⚖️❤️⚖️❤️🐥
❤️🐥⚖️🐥❤️
❤️🐥❤️🐥❤️
🐥❤️🐥⚖️🐥
❤️🐥❤️⚖️❤️

Other notes:
Majority of the time it won’t be the same correct button twice in a row
If you can get the first 2 correct the rest are easy to predict
The most common pattern variation for the first 3 correct buttons is a sequence that runs back on itself, for instance 🐥❤️🐥 or ❤️🐥❤️
The status button comes up far less frequently in my experience compared to the discipline and flush buttons

Hope that's helpful! Even if you don't get 5/5 every time you should be able to win every game now!

ALSO
I was doing some reading on other peoples' logs and experiences with the Yasashii while I was waiting for mine to arrive. Many people providing perfect care and above average discipline and still struggling with getting the 'better' characters.
Has anyone played with the theory that the game success (wins vs failures) rate impacts the growth chart? Like on some of the Digimon games?
What if the win ratio carries more weight than we thought?
3 days in, first run of this tamagotchi with no pausing: https://eatrunliftme.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/img_28e7365ea239-1.jpeg

[quaint obsidian]

some video proof of that morning phantom heart drop, hunger hearts emptied the instant it woke up

[brave hawk]

Man

So much for being the easy Tamagotchi, huh?

[quaint obsidian]

it’s funny tho cause it emulates real life, do we not wake up hungry in the morning xD

[quaint obsidian]

this is a first for me :0

definitely had the hearts get down to only 1 a handful of times

discipline meter was at half full

and it evolved with 4 bars filled

does anyone have an idea about what the heart drop rate is for meruhetchi?

im skeptical of needing to fill within 10 seconds of a heart drop since theres no way to predict when they first drop

[quaint obsidian]

oh wow so if the coding is similar to those devices then that explains why the heart drop times and evolution time have been so erratic, theres no predicting it without knowing the evo timers and whatnot

[brave hawk]

Were the rates ever dumped?

Can't remember much from the Yasashii ROM dump

Other than the RNGesus Oshamatchi debacle

[quaint obsidian]

nothing about the rom other than what he said in the post I replied to has been given

[quaint obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-funny-gif-25164834

I’m installing a super cap in this stupid thing

[signal shuttle]

NOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

if i lost meruhetchi to the battery dying i'd be so mad

[quaint obsidian]

looking through the forum i see it happened to rj many times xD

im looking into those batteries that the charge chord plugs directly into so i can leave the batteries in but charge it over night

[sick nova]

YUP 😭

In my case it's because I think my Yasashii is just sensitive, it kept getting reset from the batteries getting dislodged

[quaint obsidian]

I dropped mine on the ground and the power survived the fall, leaving it paused overnight may just not be the best tho really a led light should not be draining the batteries

I plan on installing a super cap so that the device can have some power to it when swapping batteries and getting those plug in rechargeable, meruhetchi won’t see it coming 😤

[signal shuttle]

Oh yeah didn't we eventually land on a strat to just muck with the clock so it stays asleep until you're ready to take care of it again

so you wouldn't have to pause it

[quaint obsidian]

so fast forwarding the clock a bunch to put it to sleep when you’re busy?

[signal shuttle]

yeah i think i'd change the clock to be right after it fell asleep, before i went to bed

[quaint obsidian]

I had set the time a couple hours back but honestly keeping my eyes on it as often as I had to had me starting the device several hours later from my wake up time, catching it on the morning would be hard

[sick nova]

That's what I do yes

[quaint obsidian]

I’m shocked that the LEDs would have such an impact on battery life

[sick nova]

Yeah, I was having the same problem where if I'd leave it on the clock screen to pause it for several hours at a time, the batteries would drain a lot faster

[signal shuttle]

do you have any notes on how you got meruhetchi

i got it once, and then RJ swears by the checking-every-5-minutes method

and like never letting the hearts drop lol

[quaint obsidian]

based on device’s clock
1/25 - started at 7:55am, hatched at 8am, evolved at 9:24:35~, discipline call 9:34, took bath for 10 seconds at 6pm, went to bed at 7pm and immediately paused clock
1/26 - set clock to 6:59am at my 9:09am, hunger hearts completely emptied when it woke up at 7, discipline call at 7:07am once hunger meter was filled again, went to bed at my 9:10pm, paused with 1 hungry heart and 2 happy hearts
1/27 - set clock to 6:59 at 8:59am, discipline call at 7:06 with full hearts, evolved into meruhetchi at 10:56am (my 12:56)

there were absolutely multiple times where the hearts were below 1 empty, i think its more so based on 0 care mistakes and the discipline bar being a certain amount full

i had hoptchi for about 25 hours 32 min, waking hours

[quaint obsidian]

was the rom never able to play nice in an emulator?

[signal shuttle]

i think it's in MAME's mainline now, and i don't remember if Azya put it in brickemupy

i never got it working on my crappy hacked-up version though lol

[signal shuttle]

oh right i forgot about the discipline call always happening soon after it wakes up

and how you can put it to sleep then wake it up over and over to hack the discipline up to 100%

which would never happen normally

[quaint obsidian]

luckily I didn’t have to manipulate the discipline bar to get meruhetchi, hoptchi was awake for 12 hours each day like normal, so 3 discipline calls seemed to be enough

what’s interesting is that the final call was made with full meters, so sometimes it calls once they’re filled and sometimes it can call with full hearts

[signal shuttle]

the final what call? discipline?

[quaint obsidian]

yep

where i say discipline call at 7:06 with full hearts

[signal shuttle]

so many mysteries in the yasashii still...

[quaint obsidian]

have you moved on from rom decoding

[signal shuttle]

relationship has been keeping me busy and my other hobbies haven't recovered yet lol

(well i kinda picked up some new hobbies in relation to that)

someday i'd like to get back to it lol

[brave hawk]

Does it use the discipline mistake system?

Can't remember if I read correctly, but I think somewhere on the channel said missing a discipline call counted as a care mistake

[quaint obsidian]

I can’t imagine it does since it doesn’t on any other vintage device

[signal shuttle]

my very very very preliminary notes from 2024 lol

basically the answer is I Don't Know

but the logic did not look at all like what i expected, like leaving hearts empty didn't seem to influence the memory locations that are checked for evolution

so i basically had no idea how the hell it worked

the RNG was the craziest part

[quaint obsidian]

do you think the rng could have been a result of your funky emulation?

[signal shuttle]

nah that was definitely in the logic

[quaint obsidian]

lol that sucks, perhaps the same amount of discipline and care mistakes (or lack of) both result in mametchi or oshamatchi but it flipflops which one you get come evo time

[signal shuttle]

Yep that's basically what it seemed like lol

it just wasn't clear what the mistakes actually WERE

but maybe THAT was caused by the funky time (the emulation not making them register correctly)

[quaint obsidian]

which im gonna guess is 0 (maybe 1) care mistakes and full discipline

[quaint obsidian]

ITS THE GODDAMN CHARACTER INDEX LETS GOOOO
😂

[signal shuttle]

that's always the most exciting discovery lol

because it unlocks so much

[quaint obsidian]

im dying to see what your other rtf log files look like lmao

[signal shuttle]

i've sent most if not all of them i think

[quaint obsidian]

I’m being silly, I mean the ones where you were in the process of figuring out how they worked since the let's gooooo comment was so funny

[signal shuttle]

Lol i know some people are in the habit of keeping their personal documents in a git repo or something so they can track history..... Sadly i am not one of those people

[grim jay]

I have gotten my hand on a Yasashii here and been raising it for some days already
My Hoppetchi take 2 days to evolve
It did have a total of 3 discipline call before evolving into Mayumarutchi
Discipline call seen to mostly happened some moment after waking up (and Foods meters always empty when they awake)

No care mistake was spot in my opinion

I also did see how easy it is for Hoppetchi to lost heart in both hunger and happy meters

It seen Mayumarutchi lost happiness heart before the hunger one
Is less demanding than Hoppetchi

I'm surprise, so it seen like the Discipline calls are truly the main factor for getting the better teen character and possibly adult
Yet, the discipline calls are so few that no matter what, you won't have enough to even get the good teen
And the best way to farm those would probably be to manipulate the clock at the moment they wake up and hoping the Tamagotchi gonna do a discipline calls at the moment it awake because my Hoppetchi didn't do a discipline calls when i manipulate the clock

Here currently the amount of discipline i have for Mayumarutchi, its currently weight 21g and i did see his hunger meters was full but one single happy heart drop

[signal shuttle]

the yasashii always calls once after it wakes up, it takes maybe an hour at most

so you can game the discipline meter by putting it to sleep / waking it up over and over to get a full meter

otherwise you usually won't get enough calls to get it to full

idk if that actually matters because i would get mayumarutchi with full discipline sometimes lol

[sick nova]

And I got Meruhetchi several times when the discipline meter wasn't full

That's why I never really bothered messing with the time to actually fill the meter

[grim jay]

Well
I do understand that
How strange it is too
I did see that getting Meruhetchi also involved a specific amount of discipline calls like it has to be in middle or something but would it be correct?

It seen like it could be almost rng based or something else

[signal shuttle]

in the brief amount of time i spent datamining the yasashii (never finished) i found that there is RNG, but only for the teen => adult growth

i didn't figure out how it all worked otherwise

[grim jay]

I see and understand that
Mmmmh, yeah, the Yasashii is still quite a mystery
I'm unsure why i still feel like rng might also play a role in what Hoppetchi would evolve

[sick nova]

The only reason I don't think there's RNG involved in the toddler>teen evolution is that I was able to consistently replicate what I had done to get Meruhetchi

I could be wrong though of course

[brave hawk]

The sheer irony in the "easy" Tamagotchi having a growth system that is anything but easy to analyse will never cease to amuse me

Really does suck how RNG-centric adult evolution is, though

[sick nova]

One of the reasons I eventually lost interest in running it was the fact that I kept getting Tamabetchi repeatedly and I couldn't take it

It was fun the first time but eventually I was like cmon

It would be nice to know why I apparently couldn't get anyone else

[grim jay]

Well
I recently got Pantarotchi here
It is from Mayumarutchi who i did care for many days
I did have the four disciplined call (the bar was a bit above the middle)
I didn't give him any snack but i might have done a care mistake when he beep at 8:50 am once
And Mayumarutchi do awake at 08:00 am

Also
It seen the singing animation happen each time you filled the hunger and happy meters fully
I wonder if it could be a factor

[grim jay]

Welp
I'm slightly upset
My Yasashii reset when changing the sound frequency while my Pantarotchi was singing

[grim jay]

Is that reset normal?
Did it happen to any of you?
I'm panicking at the thought of my Yasashii been broken

[crude canyon]

the device is known to reset easily

[grim jay]

Dang
Phew
I'm reassured to be honest
I thought i broke it

Well
I'm trying to get Meruhetchi
I did cheat a bit with the clock to get the training bar high enough
I didn't make any care mistake so far
And i didn't give it any snack
I keep the weight as low possible
And keep all those hunger and happy meters full

I will see to get Meruhetchi

[grim jay]

Well
I decided to take a rest from the Yasashii
I swear Hoppetchi has their hunger and happy meters dropping hard
I did care mistakes for just a single hours in which i fall asleep and I'm bummed by this💀
I will see later with the Yasashii

No wonder they are describle as frail and delicate, the kid character is almost constantly hungry or unhappy

[crude canyon]

We super capacitor cooking rn

[signal shuttle]

You put a mothra into debug mode right? does the yasashii have any pads that look similar?

[crude canyon]

there’s loads of contacts u can see in the photo, nothing stood out to me tho

unless these are something

[signal shuttle]

i just keep thinking that's the reason why the emulation was so borked and the clock was advancing 5 seconds at a time for no obvious reason... it was in some debug mode because i had defaulted an I/O port wrong

i could live with the screen being super messed up because idk how that works and as long as i can vaguely see what's going on it doesn't matter much for learning how things work... but the thing running too fast was a dealbreaker

[brave hawk]

what in tarnation

[grim jay]

I guess here probably some small generators in that Yasashii?

[crude canyon]

it’s a super capacitor

[grim jay]

Sounds nice
I bet that super capacitor is so powerful that it can turn on a Yasashii without batteries