#💨・speedrunning
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do you not have it autostart?
Tutorials i realised in the same stream after the run that i can turn them off
I do not
would you like to
this was the small relic which is worth it because you move faster
wait do you do more damage as giant???
:O
I couldnt even tell bout that
I thought giant just meant area of attack up
And are those size changes for the set of rooms, room or crusade?
Ideally on the other hand, lightning strike against amdusias can 1 shot, that ik from experience
Idk bout thr others
crusade
it takes valefer down to nearly nothing
also you have timed RTA
Yeah
so its def below 10 minutes
Its ltr ik
Rta theres at most the few ms before the black screen went away
Im hopin thats just enough time
Also, how rare are sword and fireball seperately
dunno lol
Either penitence or my game being itself
and swords
Since even for the neo i dont think i ever grabbed a single sword
And that was just quick dtart
also you need to learn how to do the gaunlet spam
Yeah
Getting used to the timings slowly for that
Cus i used it against leshy in another run
nice!
On keyboard especially
Aiming one way
Then press a direction and boom
Miss
Idk how it is with controller
But id rather have another set of keys to press like isaac to determine where im attacking
Rather yhan wasd to aim it too
Also, anyone else feel like the tentacles curse are a bit glitchy
Cus they intercepted vales jump one time
im not sure
thank you devs for penitence!!! Trying to run without it at this point is so aggrivating as there is so much RNG to deal with in leshys realm its unbelievable
Not to mention I shaved off 15 whole minutes BC of it
lol
personally i still wouldnt try penitence for neo cus im shit
and had like 4 deaths
at like hour 8-9
Why have we never thought of a Reunited% ? Get Alm and Baal back to their mother.
Would require beating TOWW, completing at least 2 more crusades for god tears, and then using a summoning circle to take the kittens to their mother.
Between the summoning circle and unlocking quicker rituals to completion 2 sacrifices there’s a lot of pieces to consider.
Idk tbh
I guess there could also be doctrine% or Allform%
Both depending on the version of the game
Doctrine% like delacre a doctrine? That you have to do specifically after DW2?
I was thinking more like unlock all of them
So could turn it into max doctrine and doctrine
I worry sacrifice% will become obselete
Cus no one ran it in a while?
That’s kinda the shame for us with these massive updates. The game gets these massive changes that totally alter how runs get done
Fair
Ehh, those categories have been unpopular, so they might be de facto obsolete even now
isnt sac% just beating any 4 bosses to unlock sacrifice
Basically yes
yeah
explain
First pinned message
but there was some other way by using steamdb
Im very glad they keep updating. The game could use some more stuff since its such a good game, just adjust to the runs with the updates imo
not that easy to do since certain routes have specific strats that may be improved or fucked with due to updates
hell some strats are only avaliable in certain modes the file is started in
yeah
penitence allowed me to take around 15 minutes off so that was crazy
Is cotl beatable within 100 days? (In game)
yes
Ah yes than I’ll definitely be trying this
100%
By a mile. My 100% run (before RotOF) ended before day 30
just remember to collect as many followers before preaching just before nightfall to get as much not suspicious white liquid as possible
Hey iron we know the mods are terrible here so the less I have to see of them the better lol so stop 🛑
Thank
Any% takes around 7/8 days for me
updates do tend to bring in new runners tho
this is cool!
im sorry, what?
Someone just discovered recycling.
Every time you get a new weapon or curse you can recycle the old one for a coin/god tear shard.
i get that
i just wonder if thats gonna be useful at all
cus i dont think the frames used to pick up the new weapon would be worth the 1 coin/shard
Just hasn't been popular, any% was popular when there were ano quick start or I have messed up some modding. Oh and people here prefer penitence over quick start
fair
shoulda seen that second part comin
i cant exactly do the penitence
cus it crashes
each q warp
damn, rip
so imma quickly do one run of that
i swear
all my leshy% attempts lost like 50s each to loot
thats a new one
game crashed while going to dw 4
recon i bullied him too much in leshy%?
Leshy gets his revenge one way or the other
but tbh, it was you who didn't see that coming this time
yeah pentinence is essentially just quick start but better
you don't get the bishops bothering you lol
And early omnipresence making it easier to get back to the cult
I swear to god i need to figure out why the game has these crashes
I'd just reinstall the game. Game has some jank
Hmm... I see
And i cant use omni after a boss is all
Omni anywhere before a boss, perfectly fine
Omni after beating up any boss, death
Leaving the cradle after beating shamura, death
Kalmar does it randomly
Going to leshy was the first time yesterday that i crashed
And i did send a bug report tho no one said anythin back
Dev team might be busy fixing the sex update
yeah
You can either bring up your concerns with the moderator team in a proper manner by contacting me, or you can drop it entirely. I will not tolerate you backhanding them like this
the moment heket crashes me, thats when its over for speedrunning this game
do you think it is yours computers issue?
you are the only one i have heard having an issue like that
i saw no spikes
like the game takes 30% on everything
but gpu maxes out at some 60%
and cpu doesnt even pass 100%
you wanted to do a christmas race?
what catagorey would should it be
cus all this happens on newest patch
any% seems like it would be the most accessible
we can try 100% /any%
100% any% ?
i hope more people do it because that would be so fun
same
sex update and alcohol and guns for christmas
the american dream
Did we decide what we would call the new catagorey for sins?
iirc we just came up with ideas and never concluded
this is where it ended
looks like we voted
but not its not concrete
Sins% Relics% 🍎
Super-Neo 🔥
sex%
Added it
Unless you meant that was a new catagorey and not just what we will call the name of the new update runs
New misc most likely
It could replace sacrifice
Sac can just sit there, no need to remove it per say
Closer to the time I think you should do a proper big vote in announcements
Did you have any thoughts about changing the breaks times - even if just for neo
Let's have a vote about that one. I'm personally more skewed towards 30 mins every 2 hours, since that would take less effort from me
Vote up
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2005087739
Was the little mushroom always there?
41 seconds
think so
thats crazy i had no idea lol
Also i do wonder if using midas for more money and the white wriggling stuff is actually worth for a neo or is it just better to use the alternate to the main totem
Juat wondering since its already a money hungry run
I think the ferver strat is better
i mean mainly in case you run out of runs and still dont got enough inspiration
you can do the ritual that spams u with money
true
You should still do multiple small visits since the cost for devotion goes up exponentially
yeah fair
You gonna post your time @swift geyser ?
Soon still haven't opened the game the steam update is slow af rn
11:58 min leshy% since I got horrible rng luck
yeah
thx
if i were to use beserker for bishops% how many times do you think i could die
I guess we will just have to see
Once or 4 times per crusade max
Unless you use the bug with tthe card that gives an extra hit
or you get the incincivilty blast
the card?
oh yes that seems good!
I wonder if it works with spirit hearts
It was the spirit hearts OP got
lets give this a go then!
ehh fuck it, imma see if it crashes me if i try this
only run i had with teh bers fleece actually did no hit weirdly
and somehow
the game managed to load a save with me not even trying to load shit
or you know, forgot u gotta get lucky to get the card
btw, opal, how much did you use spirits in your run?
SPIRIT LETS YOU KEEP THE HEART
FOOD DOESNT
i ask cus theres one that affects fervour
I saw that when I was looking for paean and I was like 👀 - I only used spirit for Aym and Baal but I think next time I give it a go I will try and use the fervor dude 😎
But I really not feeling up for it today lol
fair
But it seems like it's possible to significantly bring the bishop% down if it all goes accord to keikaku
keikaku?
good grief
tho ngl, this does seem pretty funny to do
ill just do it with my language and english
only the arabs will understand me
but fair enough
Heh 😎
i think the only annoying part would be getting unlucky with follower forms for certain spirits
I feel like I'm getting good anyway at hitless so that's good
nice
i need to figure out the timings and get a better understanding of unity jank and hitboxes
cus i swear, attacks that should hit, dont
and attacks that shouldnt even touch me, hit
also gotta know why the sword and fireball curse refuse to spawn
like seriously
in neo
not one sword popped up
and none of the leshy% attempts
I think that was just something that occurred in quick start
Could be wrong tho
I heard on the grapevine that the next sneak peak will ||involve sozo somehow||
What do you mean?
A third run through areas. With Like eligos 3
I think that the bishops were right about reversing death destroying the world and thats why the game is so buggy right now
but also for real I think its going to decay more and more
so yes
Bugs o plenty
Ngl with the fact you gotta keep leveling up followers for spirits to be good and go through the process of giving them to become ghosts idk how worth the time it is
what levels do they go up
From what i saw
Per follower level
A detriment to bishop%
Tho useful af for 100%
I disagree, they were helpful when i tried it last night
for faster crusades
damn
also totaly didnt forget you can now bless multiple followers at once now
instead of one by one
tho i wish collecting the level was automatic
or you could do it to a group
Are crashes subtracted?
so it seems that the demon is linked to the character - so valefar will always be vosegus and you only need to level him up once for the purple
So its not even based on follower form?
i have not tested that but i dont change them in the run so I dont know
i suppose i could test if you wished me to
Regular valefar will seemingly always be vosegus - but copies of valefar will have different ones
in the same way aym and baal are always paean
I see
Hey quick question, do speed runs use stop time on crusade?
What categories use it? I click the rules tab thing and it tells me to check the rules for each category but I'm not seeing a seperate rules button
Like idk what NMG is or what penitence entails
Maybe I'm just not seeing the proper spot for this stuff tho
If you're doing a run where you need multiple sermons to unlock various upgrades then no, but if you're doing an any% run or smth that you aren't needing any day-based events or purchases then it's probably best to stop time then so the followers you have made sick or hungry during crusades don't die as quickly, especially on higher difficulties
iirc it's not something we've set hard and fast rules on for different categories, it was only a feature that was introduced after the initial surge of popularity for the game so it's not something we've had to consider a lot
I believe you're free to toggle it on and off freely during runs unless the category your running had rules explicitly stating otherwise, @livid basin can you confirm this?
No major glitches (nmg) is essentially just a run that doesn't abuse any of the major skips we have, such as early Midas, follower dupe or talisman dupe, this really is only relevant for downpatched runs tho as these glitches have been patched out of the game since, and we haven't really been able to find any other huge game breaking skips for later versions (but we are always on the lookout for new ways to break it open!)
Ohhhh ok
As for pentinence, this is a new game mode that was introduced with one of the latest updates that essentially introduces a hunger and sleep meter for the lamb which you need to consider replenishing throughout the run too, it also adds a quick start feature that skips the entire starting tutorial part of the game which saves a bunch of time, somewhere around 10 mins or so I'd say but I might be wrong haha
Ohhh the survival mode
Wait so why isn't quick start the standard and we deduct tutorial time from current runs?
Like Mario Sunshine
quick start isnt as fast as penitence
Wow it's wild I just opened discord randomly to check and you started typing
LOL
But can't you quick start penitence? And even so penitence is a seperate category so that wouldn't be relevant right?
pentience gives you the warp ability which lets you exit crusades the moment you indoctrinate bosses
Cause quick start is same as any percent minus the tutorial section yes?
quick start is auto on with penitence
quick start alone keeps interruptions by the bishops in
penitence removes those interruptions
Once again I'm referring to quick start with any percent
Pentinence holds no relevance here
Different category all together
yes
So why seperate the categories, why not combine them and either reduce tutorial time from current runs or add tutorial time to future runs
Mario Sunshine does this
And why is that
only thing i can think of is that quick start and shit were added later on, people found penitnece to be faster so they play penitence and skip the quick start runs
and so those old runs were kept as their own thing
They should really work to modernize the board and make quick start the preferred option imo
again, quick start aint the preffered one, its penitence thats prefered
Everything goes unless stated otherwise. Go wild
Quick start - Bosses show up, don't have to deal with hunger n sleep. Boss transition cutscenes play
Penitence - Bosses don't show up during crusades and also don't have dialogue during fights, Q leave from the start, have to deal with sleep and hunger (not a big deal imo)
Neither quick start or penitence have to worry about tutorial stuff
Did you mean "Why didn't we remove tutorial sections?"
I assumed its because it was mostly play sections where people could actually do it faster or slower
And there were timesave glitches in the tutorial to do
Unfortunately it's not that simple cause of how the game plays out in both scenarios. Both ways you still have to get through 4 crusades to reach leshy, but in non-quickstart modes they weave tutorial sections of dialogues and pre-determined rooms and stuff in throughout but still randomised where they sit cause it's a roguelike, and also different people run through all sections of the game differently depending on what strats they are going for, how they are wanting to route their run and other things too, so it's not really as simple as just removing the tutorial sections of the original runs to make them all the same
Also another thing I saw a bit of confusion with earlier - we used to have two separate categories, one for quick start mode (without pentinence) and then one for pentinence (cause whenever you select pentinence mode in game it automatically turns on quick start and you can't turn it off). We eventually got rid of the quick start by itself category cause most people that were wanting to run one of those two preferred pentinence cause it was essentially exactly the same run but you had omnipresence auto-unlocked in pentinence which just saved even more time
That mixed with having time pause on and easy difficulty meant you barely had to manage the lambs hunger and sleep if at all, it's been a while since I did a run of that category I can't remember lmao
But yeah hopefully that answers some questions haha
yeah there wouldnt be a time that could be subtracted for the tutorial as everyone plays it at different speeds for everyone
Oh boy the beserker fleece is magnificent
Only problem is: it's too fast
It doesn't give me enough time to get a level 10 follower easily
lmao
even if ya start leveling from the start?
what about gifts?
or is that worse due to wasted frames on the freeze
I will probably need to rely on gifts more
wait how far in the inspiration is the confession booth
tier 3
hmmm
recon thats viable
its one way to be able to level up a follower further and be able to give the follower gifts without having to deal with the hordes
yes its doable but on its own its not enough sadly
rip
doctrines would already make shit slower than they need to be
or would ya recon theyd be better?
like bribe is can be unlokced instantly
it will be trial and error
and maybe sermons can help level up
granted not by much
but it can go to getting stronger stuff (even tho you dont need much stronger shit since bers)
also, just wondering... im not the insane one thinking a sermon a day is giving me a soul heart right?
(and i already tried, they dont get taken to the crusade... its seems as tho the health is brought to 1/2 heart after loading in and the spirits give their health up after loading in or before the flag to not allow more health pickups is set)
Stuff I can use - followers with a natural high devotion up - devotion necklace - sermons - coins - gifts - confession - faithful doctrine
you mean loyalty?
its loyalty, the white flowing stuff is devotion
This was the answer I was looking for. Clear gameplay differences affected by the choice, thank you
sorry it was a bit unclear ;;
hope we all have a sinful christmas!
happy christmas lads
Merry crisis
and a fleshy new year
And a pranky April's fools day
yo, if anyone doesnt think shit% is a possible category, heres the only chance it has of being a real one
https://discord.com/channels/353179320644141057/1190777070222061648
happy new year everyone!!1
happy new year
Hbbynewuwar
happy new year fellow cultists!!!
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I AINT THE ONLY ONE
WE FUCKING WIN THESE
Hey for speed runs which difficulty is it?
Whichever one you want to set a record for :)
If you can play it, you can run it
This seems to be common in kallamars realm
It happened with the regular ala's teeth too
I think its the exploding ones that cause it
seems so
what seems to have happened is the relic struck the two bombs and gone into recharge mode
the bombs hit each other which killed them and hit their offspring which blew them up as well
thus stacking enough damage to recharge
Would have beaten neo last night but Shamura's skull decided not to spawn ;;
Rip
I think it was a bug
Yeah
A new viable relic tho with the enemies being launched randomly i do doubt the reliability
I think it will just be something to keep in mind if you have the lightning relic in kallamars realm
I have a feeling it would work on shamura's eggs too
maybe ive seen it before but can't remember
HMM
could be interesting to look into
if only we had access to a debug mode or somethin
try running leshy% to get a feel for how to be quick and learn the weapons well
during these attempts try to get the highest possible dps which most of the time is attacking, instantly rolling and attacking again
for example for gauntlets, youd end up constantly doing on the third hit which has increased speed, range and damage than the regular 3 hit one
yeah i can see it being a bit rng based with the random weapons
do I need a new save each time for that?
ok
then when you feel confident enough
I'll go later to check the other categories
try to go for any category
my only word of advice is do neo100% if you know you can waste a day of your life, that run for an experienced runner took 8 hours
and do penitence mode too
Zamn
penitence has the fastest possible gameplay because it skips any midrun encounters with the bishops and skips like 99% of cutscenes
yes
tho, youd end up eating so little depending on speed and difficulty that it doesnt matter
there is a different category for each difficulty i assume
i know. I usually play on Hard but certain bosses get too fast...
fair
I am also making a playlist of tricks for it !
sounds lovely
would you like me to share?
sure
a reset would have worked
;;
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Does anyone know if this still works?
Not sure exactly how it works, I can't replicate it 100% of the time. I've also only been able to use it twice, unsure if you can keep doing this to maybe use it thrice or more.
You can use the confession booth twice | Cult of the Lamb
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Never thought its a possibility
got a potential scammer on speedrun.com dont click links if you get any
lmfao
hi this is totally not a scam. get back to me urgently
waiting (Iswearthisisnotascam@gmail.com)
I'd just block these types of messages and not even answer them. Even answering them can be enough to gain intel that this account works and increase value of the interaction. This is why sometimes there are callers to your phone who just hung-up instantly. Not every phone call, sometimes it can be genuine, but most likely nowadays.
so thats why everyones like dont respond
i usually just dm them "keep yourself safe" and other colourful words
or my more prefered method
fuck with them
till they give u[p
Just a heads up since it was on speedrun.com and I knew someone names Monica so it there was a little bit of a "hmm maybe" for me but if it was her she would have given more detail lol
lol
ok random ass thought, yall never tried to see if theres a way to activate mediations speed up effect without staying in the meditaded state
right?
also, i tkae it no one has seen my last submission, right?
I did see it, and then completely forgot about it until the other day but I've been busy working n stuff, I've got the next few days off so I'll try to take a look at it then 👍
Oh what was it?
Leshy% if I'm not mistaken
@swift moat I private messaged you and if you could get to at some point I would be very grateful
or @signal cipher when you are available for a discussion
Dont worry about it bro, just askin
what the hell happened to opal
No, Opal asked to get banned so we did as she asked.
Guh
She kept complaining about how she didn’t like that she couldn’t discuss certain topics, kept leaving and saying she was going to make her own 18+ server but kept coming back anyways to complain some more 🤷
And she asked us to ban her
More or less yeah
It had nothing to do with Opal pinging mods lol
We don't ban people for that, never have
Unless it becomes spam
It really is a... cult. Or would a hivemind be more appropriate?
braincell sharing? nueral link? both are the same for the mods
Yo lads
Got an idea
Can only do it on the 6th
Can yall quickly 100% the new update
And write the guide on whats the new stuff pls
im on a uni trip till the 5th lmao
so i will have like 3 days to play the update before i leave haha
hf bro
go fast
Hi
yo
agreed, neo is not fun
yo btw, the new dlc pack, that includes a fleece for once, right?
i need to know what it does
just cosmetic, similar to the heretic fleece
oh cool
thats good to know
yo @sacred flax while you were here, can ya explain these two
Knight Armour: heart demon drops once you unlock Tailor.
Fancy Robes: absolve Sin from Follower 5 times. is this one meant to say "from the same follower"?
i'm not exactly sure with this one either but with how one other cloth specifically mentions requiring the same follower i'm guessing that would be cumulative for fancy robes, no clue about the knight armor requirement so i'll have to check that out for specifically how
thanks lad
sure thing
for the fancy robes i thought the same cus of somewhat similar wordin tho had to be sure
but the knight armour
yeah i genuinely have no clue either it's muddy in explaining so i'll have to see it for myself in what it actually means
and one last thing
are the totems for the lore guaranteed to spawn in the crusades
or is it random if they do or not
pls i just need that one checked out
cus it can either be the biggest life saver or the biggest pain in the ass
cus out of 4 runs ive done, only 3 gave me lore tablets
the one that didnt i didnt focus on breaking decor
and im just hopin thats why
i'm not sure, i've made a new save so i'll be exploring that as well
will have to update you on that when i see them
thx
In postgame once all the doors are locked again, will every mini boss reward you with a follower again?
Cause I fought one last night when I tested something quickly and I didn't get a follower, just a god tear
It was when I was running berserker fleece and 3 hit the boss so idk if I broke it or something
they don't give you a follower to my knowledge, just the god tear
the knight armor is get a heart demon and go on a crusade, i just got it and it makes more sense now
Oh
Iirc it was a god tear
one tear for minibosses and three for bishops i think
Yup
An aciddental speedrun ig (love fornax ong)
Ok, THAT may be the most broken thing possible
Fornax momment
What level was the follower
Oh
So he stuck lvl 13 now
Ehh still good
Down patch is possible
Wonder if usin the necklace woulda done anythin (that is if there is a necklace for it)
He has had the golden skull necklace for a while
I meant a necklace to make the demon follower better
Idk, never really looked into the gifts other than to get their level up
there is but it's only a flat +2 level up
and i think it's a post game item from ???
other than that there isn't much
I dont remember the damage for fornax
But it might just be crazy enough tk be busted
i managed to actually look at fornax and they basically have a base damage of 5
the calculation is basically 5*follower level with a follower level checking if a demonic necklace is present in which case it adds 2 more levels
so a level 10 ends up dealing 50 damage
this is assuming in a vacuum so no modifiers
i may be wrong though so if anyone else knows their value to correct me please do
What about a lvl 13 without the necklace?
65
Again without the damage modifiers
Cus then you got a million other factors
Like difficulty and shit
yep
True
here's the block of the damage calculation
the demonic necklace is in a separate one for follower data
which is this one #🐑・cult-of-the-lamb message
Wait, you got access to the code?
not exactly its entirety but yeah got a tool
I see
Was gonna ask if you can check on the code for the shamura boss door
Cus no matter what, whether it is the first thing i do in the day or last thing, it always crashes
And now i have a save file that cannot be completed cus it doesnt even save
And too look into the quickstart mode code to see why swords and guns dont spawn there
well i'll have to look a bit as they aren't explicitly named
may i ask for the save file that has the issue? i'll also check it out and see what can be done with that
All three
Like its specifically after the reward screen
And for a few other events too
this was even after verifying the game files too?
Yup
Reinstalling, verifyin
The whole shebang
Turned off shadowplay
But no part exceeded 90%
damn
Need me to link the bug report i sent?
yeah i don't see this bug often
usually it's the doors during crusades i see but not the unlocking one
not that i doubt you or anything it's that i haven't heard much about this bug
Nah this one is wgen loadin cult hq
One guy quite literally rage quit cus he couldnt get to TOWW
Ok rn i cant link it cus im on phone
i think i can check your past messages and find it there
Pls do
Cus theres a few events that have either halted progress forcing me to retry crusades or not even get past em
Yup
Tho i reposted the last one for sins patch
yeah i don't think i recall seeing these before
Damn
i'm not sure what's causing this either so your best option is to check the player session logs
they'll be in the same folder as where you find the save and backup folders
not sure what's going to appear but chances are they'll likely record the crash
sure thing
Need me to dm it to ya or somethin?
yeah sure
Cheers bro
i wish i can help but i'm as lost as you are
is anchordeep and silk cradle the only ones doing this?
Gonna need like 2 hours before i send it
oh i might be asleep by then
it's 11 PM for me lol
it's fine you can drop it and i'll check when i can
There was also usin omnipresence after defeatin a miniboss like valephar is penitence mode
Tyt bro
Im sorry on my end but i cant head home earlier cus of medical shit
yeah it's fine no rush
so the valefar crash was main game?
i'll have to test it if i can replicate the issue
Again, omnipresence after any boss
Rather than specifically vale
Thats just the only one i can remember off the top of my head
i got a penitence save saved so i can try that when i get up tomorrow
Cheers
I was boutta send one of my runs that had the issue happen live
The omni one
i'll check on something for a bit regarding the penitence omnipresence
yeah i checked some reports regarding penitence and the omnipresence interaction and got nothing
i'll still be testing it out despite that
Windows: Hit Win+R and paste "%appdata%/../LocalLow\Massive Monster\Cult of the Lamb\saves" without quotes. It will be the slot_0.json file if it's your first slot, slot_1.json for second, slot_2.json for third.
Mac: From Finder up top, hit Go > Go to Folder... which will default to Library, then hit Application Support > Massive Monster > Cult of the Lamb > saves. It will be the slot_0.json file if it's your first slot, slot_1.json for second, slot_2.json for third.
cheers lad
okay so something i noted with one of my penitence saves in silk cradle is that it also leads to a black screen even if i died, might have to check again if the result isn't because of something else
tried doing the omnipresence in post game and seems to be no issue, will have to try main game with this alongside the silk cradle one
Try a new save then
Again, for most its not an issue
Its just weirdly mine that this happens a lot to
how is your game personalized to screw you over damn
Idk
I lost like 30 mins in my wr to the no-save crashes
And another run i lost a min to not being able to use omni
I mean it might be the games way of saying “fuck you” for having the first file be a very hard one
And then having a buncha people just leave the cult
Cus i had no money, no food or materials
umm
so are the json files meant to be inelligible?
cus all of these are
its just this
you'll need a save editor for it to be decrypted into actual text
something like this https://cotl-save-editor.vercel.app/
i don't think the game has its own generated report so you'll have to find the player session log
it's in the folder where the save folder is located
oh
they'll be named as Player and Player-prev for the recent and second recent game session
sure thing
cus last time i opened it i just looked for some lore
i remember the game sometimes generate crash report at
%localappdata%\Temp\Massive Monster\Cult Of The Lamb\Crashes
i feel like i went to the wrong folder here
Try going instead from AppData, from LocalLow folder and follow the same path
You’re next
nope
has anyone tried beating the game in reverse?
No
tried speedrunning for the first time, got 12:30 real time on leshy %, pretty fun
downloaded livesplit, ran again!
Nice dude!!
thanks! Gotta figure out OBS once I start getting times closer to being worth posting
turns out that second run was incredibly lucky with zero extra forced fight areas in the entire run. Haven't gotten as lucky since.
Doesn't sound that bad honestly. You can get golden fleece and run for it quite easily. Though it can be tedious how tanky spiders are
are most folks using youtube or twitch vods to post PBs?
twitch
save the highlight and its done
and theres no need to store all the clips on pc
Personally I'd prefer if people use yt, it is much better for archiving runs
So people can go back to the runs and see strats etc.
ill switch over to yt again when mine doesnt have my personal info anymore
got a sub 10 but OBS wasn't recording even though I thought I'd set it to record. RIP
Nice
nice

rip, run isnt eligible this time because I was listening to a podcast and don't have clear game audio.
Rip
Need my game to stop crashing
Can someone gives tips for me?I need to get better at the game
uhhh
git gud
try easy mode to get used to weapons
do not get heavy attacks early as they leave you vulnerable for way too long
yo sorry for askin, but any updates on the crashes?
haven't got much time during the weekdays due to my internship but i can take a look at it on friday at the earliest
Cool
So what exactly are the categories for speedrunning?
Any%- reach the credits
100%-unlock every in the base game
Neo-100%- unlock everything in Relics of the Old Faith
Super neo 100% - unlock everything in Sins of the Flesh
Leshy% - defeat Leshy
Marriage% - complete the marriage ritual
Sacrifice% - complete a sacrifice ritual
Bishop% - Indoctrinate all the bishops
i might be able to run super neo soon
only need 3 days to go
or should i wait till the crashes are resolved
the ultimate dilemma
depends
solipsistful claimed a 2:57:25 without penitence
opalwreck claimed a 2:42:43.510 in penitence
the slower of the WRs did it in some 16 days
already done but i did use other fleeces but maybe being on the hardest difficulty makes up for that
difficulty only determines how much damage you deal and thats it
on src it is a diff sub category
There are also less HP and fewer i-frames. Also cult management is more tedious on higher difficulties. Sickness and hunger work faster
Unless they have changed the i-frame stuff
never nooticed the i frame changes
but the cult management is hell on higher difficulties
You get like 2 secs of i-frames on easy difficulty, but only 0.5 on the highest
damn
most i really recall on higher difficulties is it not bein as worth to run cus you start with 1 heart
so 2 hits and youre gone
ez if you can dodge
Yeah, Kallamar is much more difficult because the i-frame thing. Your HP ban can just melt if you are not careful
but you need to dodge and kill
i dont even remember how i beat kallamar on my first file
ohhh thats why i nearly ragequit on narinder
this will change soon tho
im curious as to see how much more/less time super neo will take
ill do some trials tomorrow
Evening all, how is 🙂
Hello, just woke up
Hi! 👋 I’m about to go to sleep 
I find it weird that people are always like can this be done in under 100 days? Cause the game is not that large.
I'm new to the game and I'm on day 120. Still couldn't finish the game..
That’s reasonable. Especially on the newer updates.
But those that are doing speed runs have a couple dozen hours of experience at least and are most likely not dying once.
i mean when you plya through it the first time, you take your time to understand the mechanics
and ya die a ton
I tried speedrunning but failed
try again
what's the record for the glitchless run
any% easy nmg record is 1h 10m 48s
What about the penitence mode? Cause that’s also done with no glitches.
pretty sure thats around 55:26
Anyone know if super Neo, includes the follower forms you get only by eggs? An also I'm guessing ya gotta unlock all the clothing too, ya?
Gotta add those ones too, missed those. Thanks for the feedback
The idea is to unlock everything that sticks
So no, one does not have to catch all fish nor make all the meals since those won't stick
Screaming crying, shitting. Had my last Neo run on extra hard down to 15 hours before the update. Good to have some more challenges added, tho. Lessgoooo

Fish you would still need for the fisherman's talisman pieces tho right?
Well, yes. You do need those to unlock fleeces, right?
Yeah, I can't remember if there are more talisman opportunities then there are fleeces to spend it on or not tho
seems like someones goin for super neo before me
good
ill have somethin to aim for
There's also Sozo and Midas' requests
Declaring a doctrine only to use it once may be inefficient
then again, if you've got the fasting ritual there's not much need for the harvest ritual
would you guys consider this game speedruns active?
somewhat
As soon as I figure out how to do that live split stuff, imma definitely post. Light the only thing missin
if you ever need any help setting up stuff like that feel free to ask! a lot of us here have had a bunch of experience and are more than happy to help 
merb
does relics of old faith count?
count towards what exactly?
nothing i accindently write it here sorry
What does the Neo-100% category mean? Like, what is the objective of the speedrun
All collectables from relics update
or unlockables
neo-100% is 100% relics of the old faith update (requires previous patch)
super neo is 100% of sins of the flesh
Thanks!
wonder what they'll call it when a new update comes out
all i hope is for less grinding
and that you can find stuff like the lore bits more than one per run
Just started speedrunning any%nmg any tip and trick for a newb
Ignore cult management as much as possible
since sotf added completion percent tracker would be cool to make a low% category
That depends on what counts for percent and if the route needs to be changed to avoid percentages.
im betting ideally we try to find a way to not have to eat, which means, running through somethin like deepwoods and gather some 20 followers that you indoctrinate at once to unlock all 3 doors then try to access toww before they start dissenting
dark woods is the best place to farm from since you dont unlock many materials from there
berries and a few others
aint gonna do much
anything with the inspiration grants % i assume
anything with sermons and tablets is to be avoided too
tho itd be interesting to see if it is getting the tablets that does it or not
all the locations are off limits too
since you can buy shit from there
getting decor or forms is out of the question
so the follower farming is gonna be huge
beat shamuras place after dark woods since it is the longest and has the highest follower count
end at beating leshy
if you dont beat the bishop, the area would still be in its neutral state
however you cant keep farming a run without killing the witnesses
you also could probably clone followers with that one glitch
i heard it was patched
but then again
cloning webber will result in even more % due to the decors
Yo. Guys I'm making a roblox group
if theres a way of cloning anyone but webber, it would be possible
Who made this?
made what?
I finished my first cotl speed run at just over 7 hours
Hell yeah!! Congrats!! 
Keep on keeping on and you'll only go up from here!!
Thanks
Insanity but I'm here for it haha
the version for speedrunning is different than the modern update im guessing, so how to switch back versions?
Anyone have a easy video on how to put in that timer speed runners use? I downloaded it but GOD DAMN, it looks VERY intimidating
any idea what the 100% speedrun name will be next major content update?
if you are talking about Live Split Smant has a good vid
I've had a bunch of people recently ask me about how to set up LiveSplit so I figured I'd make a comprehensive video tutorial to answer all of the frequently asked questions. This tutorial includes everything you'll need to get started with LiveSplit for timing a speedrun! I explain how to start/stop the timer, make your splits, what everything ...
that didn't embed
there we go
Yes! Thank ya!!!
for the next one we shall see, the newest was super-neo so i wouldnt be surprised if it would be like super-neo-2 or somethin
or like super-duper-neo-100%
thats my guess
still lamentin best manga creators death here
super-neo-100%-over-9000
lmao
thats the last update
super-neo-3
super-neo-god-super-neo
ultra-instinct-neo
THE-LEGENDARY-SUPER-NEO
Forneus, do you love your sons?
doubt
30 max
cus what i can assume is the sins update only added like 3 hours of content
with all the sin points
idk i havent opened cotl in months
then about 40 something hours if that stays the same
ill try to do a run in summer
i mean neo only took 15 hours of my life in total
im excited to see your super neo 100% tho
It would require 6 new commandment stones, new follower forms, and new blueprints, I think thats it not much progression just fun conetnt
so 2 hour extra max and thats pushing it
the main problem is getting enough sinpoints from alcohol and sex
drum circle gives one every day, and confessions give 70% sin to one person every day
and sex takes sin sadly but you will need golden eggs for follower forms
and poop drinks give 50% sin
still a lot of time but not too much
defeating 3 bishops early is ideal
preferably before the 1 hour mark
disciples will help a ton with collecting inspiration stuff
leads to some automation
and by the time the third bishop dies
bars, confession booth, the drum circle and the alters should be ready to be built
along with the ritual of auto build
do you need all follower outfits?
if it contributes to the %, its going in the run
and im pretty sure devs havent patched penitence locking out sword and gun
when you did neo did you have a written planner that you were using?
no
first of all DAMN
second of all might be nice to (sins of the) flesh out the quickest route
and tears werent the biggest problem
cus i finished those in time
i was just missing the inspiration stuff
AND I DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT MEDITATING TILL PINEAPPLE WAS LIKE "WHY DONT YOU MEDITATE TO SPEED UP TIME"
AND THAT WAS LIKE WHEN I HAD LIKE 20 MINS LEFT
well I just learned something new about this game
Look if you wanna see all the prep i had for the run
Go from when i joined the server till end of september
Trust me its not a long history
i decided to do it like 3 days before i joined the server
That's the thing tho, cause it's a roguelike and we have no control over what reward drops will be and randomisation of follower perks and whatnot that all channel into when we can build and unlock certain things it gets tricky to have a fail-safe route to follow
So a lot of runs of the game end up being starting with a rough general structure that you follow but ultimately end up being how well can you think and adapt on the fly with so many possible options that could save or lose even a few seconds each but add up pretty quickly
Also there aren't that many people that have been brave enough to tackle a 100% run of any capacity (myself included lmao even tho it's on my list to attempt someday haha) so the amount of data we have of what has gone into failed/successful attempts is pretty limited, in saying that tho we are doing the best we can with what we've got 
Thats why my crazy is gonna try it
You gotta catch up bro
Random islander did it
And i had the crashes to slow my run down by a good hour or so
Idk i cant remember how long
But tbh if im gonna try super neo all i ask is for at least an option of one long break
Where i can sleep through the run and not have the timer tick
The lore added to sins of yhe flesh is definitely the most brutal part. There’s what like 15 pieces of lore that have to be collected one per run?
yup
only 20 possible runs to get 15 tablets
idek if you can find them in purgatory runs
and i say 20 cus its only in post-game
and ideally you do only 20 runs
4 per area to get the bishop
1 to get the relic and witnesses
or were they 2 runs for witnesses and relic
i cant remember
i did part of the run while being completely out of the run
I would absolutely love to, but I have exams to worry about rn so I’m doing one any% run per day and that’s still probably to much time lol
cant wait haha
oh also I forgot to mention but I'll be running CotL any% unrestricted easy at DreamHack Melbourne 2024 next month! The run will be on <t:1714209300> (subject to change, I'll keep you posted), and it's looking to be a killer weekend filled with incredible runs all over and even featuring an Interactive Speedrunning Stage for DreamHack attendees to learn some cool runs and tricks from some of Australia's finest and fastest!
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omg i totally forgot that existed LMAO
that might be important and cool
anyone else only do the cursed speedruns instead of the main one
what could be worse than neo
neo inc. the whole purgatory
It is not
Since it is not part of neo
I have been thinking doing separate category for all the purgatory runs, but I'm lazy and there aren't enough active members to make it worth it
TAHNK GOD
Q
tbh only person i knew crazy enough to also try neo, i lost contact with her
spid run
Cheater! Reeee
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Yo question, if i have a simple script to just press esc after 15 mins to end the break when theyre up, allowed or no?
Hell ill even send the code here if need be
Ill even try to do handcam if need be for that
Or should it be still manually inputted
Just have second timer running on the side. The timer is more for making sure the footage is continuous
aight
cus was plannin on keepin the same set up as i did for neo but when i take breaks, it unpauses the game for me to allow time to pass
fair
macro's to be correct
WOOO GL @buoyant granite
you did really well @buoyant granite
kinda ass run but you did well on commentary
gg dez
LMAOOOO THE RUN SUCKED ASS HAHAHA
1:45 is not nice
im tempted to run the game to prove how ass the run was
Yeah I was tryna make up for the lack of a commentator for this one which I think got me less focussed on the game and played shitter
commentary was super fucking well done though
Which paired with one of the worst rng combinations throughout the run I've seen was kinda nuts tho
like that whole run was entertaining