but very few people actually run w/ gamepad viewer, which would actually let people see the angle 😠
#💨・speedrunning
blazing forum
I don't think so
just spam A instead of space
and then switch back to keyboard after the like
first or second roll
blazing forum
alright, put in the message to the artist
we'll see what happens :V
lambertmash emote
don't worry about it
calm peak
how did you do that on current patch GGs man
blazing forum
It's 5s faster than hjarl's 1:10 submitted run
and ~55s faster than talones
I believe all three are old AS
calm peak
Also I have not been able to do follower skip on downpatch is it just skill issues
calm peak
I guess I got em skill issues
blazing forum
I'm going to go through and verify the top 3 runs submitted I think
assuming something else doesn't come up
calm peak
got it prev like solid 60% of the time but haven't gotten it on like the last 5 runs
gl
the new AS adds like 6 min so getting a sub 1:10 is almost impossible
nope that was old AS
ahh
yea maybe
just isn't on the board yet
now it's time to start running again
grim kayak
I started to run the game today and I got a bug, after defeating Leshy the ads didn't despawn and attacked me during the boss death cutscene, does that happen a lot ? :')
blazing forum
I haven't had that yet
I've had a couple of things where beating a room too fast kept other hitboxes active and broke my golden fleece though
never in a boss room yet, thankfully
narrow snow
I started to run the game today and I got a bug, after defeating Leshy the ads d...
I had that once. They hit me when i went for the heart and it soft locked. That was 1.0.2 on switch.
grim kayak
I've had a couple of things where beating a room too fast kept other hitboxes ac...
got that once in my casual playthrough
blazing forum
I had an invisible projectile break my fleece during a speedrun
...idk if I'm allowed to post clips
but it was dumb
static patio
I've had a couple of things where beating a room too fast kept other hitboxes ac...
Wait the Golden Fleece can break?? 😭😭
wheat trout
I might stop running very hard and run easy like a normal human being
cause fuck me
you can tell by my splits how far I even make it into a run
verbal violet
The reason I was curious about individual area NG+ runs btw is because of the in game time that it gives you after you complete an expedition
blazing forum
Wait the Golden Fleece can break?? 😭😭
breaking means that you lost the bonus cause you got hit
wheat trout
is there a higher chance of spider dude selling you elderly/afflicted followers in vhard btw?
cause I swear I keep seeing more oldies than on easy
angy
good best splits dont amount to much if ya cant string together a whole run
I got them skill issues
fierce tangle
Love it when it happens during a speedrun
fierce tangle
I died at shamura lol
wheat trout
ur gaming
fierce tangle
Actually is the first time I die at Shamura... I hate the second boss on Silk Cradle II though
wheat trout
I honestly think I'll try it too cause combat's giving me such a hard time rn
fierce tangle
The caterpillar
wheat trout
Actually is the first time I die at Shamura... I hate the second boss on Silk Cr...
uhh second is
yeah
wheat trout
The caterpillar
somehow I spam attack cancels while its curled around me and most the time I dont get hit
it's miraculous
and by miraculous i mean max wonky
modest stratus
you can tell by my splits how far I even make it into a run
yo can i get those images
wheat trout
yooo sure
blazing forum
I need to rename my splits again because they aren't funny enough
verbal violet
I have officially beaten the game
blazing forum
grats!
wheat trout
time to ruin it for yourself by speedrunning it now
verbal violet
Day 42 first try final boss yay
modest stratus
I need to rename my splits again because they aren't funny enough
i have normal splits
static patio
breaking means that you lost the bonus cause you got hit
My bad, noob here. I thought it just disappears I died recently and I got scared lol
blazing forum
what do you think of my split names
blazing forum
lol ❤️
wheat trout
drip multiplier
blazing forum
nah fam
wheat trout
no memes is the new memes
modest stratus
no memes is the new memes
until someone has normal splits then calls TOWW "sacrifice me daddy 😩"
blazing forum
nah nah nah
wheat trout
until someone has normal splits then calls TOWW "sacrifice me daddy 😩"
it's me
i'm someone
blazing forum
yeah sadge
modest stratus
oh 100%
modest stratus
huh..?
modest stratus
yooo
wheat trout
ICONS
modest stratus
BTW make sure to turn off reset run on autosplitter in case of softlock
modest stratus
continuing the memes
YES
hearty vapor
shouldn't any% glitchless be its own category
blazing forum
not a mod, not my problem :>
deciding if I want a spider or a leg emote for shamura
wheat trout
hearty vapor
dividing 100% into glitched and glitchless and potential other categories doesn't feel right
blazing forum
LOL
modest stratus
dividing 100% into glitched and glitchless and potential other categories doesn'...
we'll see what happens
blazing forum
I don't think that works well on black, though
modest stratus
Hey all, recently we seperated runs into Any% and NMG, but due to speedrun.com being iffy, the runs can't be seen. if you're run has be accepted. please tell us in the forum and we'll put it in the appropriate category.
blazing forum
IDK, tempted to just 🪱
blazing forum
just using Broodmother from DotA 2 for shamura
verbal violet
I'm honestly suprised that throughout the game I only died on one boss, mister fish man
blazing forum
kallamar is actually by far the hardest boss imo
no one else does bullet hells
😬
need this real quick
gimme a sec
modest stratus
Hey all, recently we seperated runs into Any% and NMG, but due to speedrun.com b...
@copper trout
can i get a ping on this?
verbal violet
Hopefully an announcement
verbal violet
But yea it was really close on the big spider boss but everything else espically the final boss was fairly easy. Was playing on normal by the way
blazing forum
it's too obvious
halcyon grove
I need a better name for Kallamar
satan?
blazing forum
lmao
verbal violet
Tree, Frog, Fish, Spider
blazing forum
not memey enough
wheat trout
prehensile daddy
wheat trout
prehensile mommy
modest stratus
okay who's down for the race?
blazing forum
call back to an old meme
modest stratus
sweet
verbal violet
I literally haven't ever ran the game and just beat it like 10 minutes ago but I wish I could race it, lol. Too busy unfortunately
blazing forum
I've been having trouble w/ anchordeep in the new route
so
I'll pass for now
just going to practice
I love hammer in silk cradle, not so much in anchordeep
or anywhere else tbh
modest stratus
but tell me how to go ab this
we start at same time, turn off reset on autosplitter in case of a softlock, if you do encounter a softlock we encourage you to keep going. first person to beat the game wins. we go by Any% rules. you can setup a prior easy save to use
wheat trout
just going to practice
mate I haven't finished a full run yet, not even on easy B)
modest stratus
kinda wanna have atleast 3 runners
wheat trout
kinda wanna have atleast 3 runners
ye
modest stratus
mate I haven't finished a full run yet, not even on easy B)
same XD
wheat trout
IM IN GOOD COMPANY
modest stratus
nice
verbal violet
Yea but I don't have to break the game
hearty vapor
without fleece for longer = less stressing about losing fleece stacks
blazing forum
don't speedrun for anyone other than yourself
lmao
got the difficulty select icon
wheat trout
we start at same time, turn off reset on autosplitter in case of a softlock, if ...
we streamin yeah?
verbal violet
Any% NMG gets fleece still tho? I really would've thought I'd just be faster to slash through everything
wheat trout
wasnt there a site where you could watch twitch streams side by side
halcyon grove
fleece makes it easier to slash through bosses
modest stratus
we streamin yeah?
you can if you want.
personally i think it'd be better to hop in a discord vc
blazing forum
aw shit that isn't a transparent background rip
halcyon grove
aw shit that isn't a transparent background rip
wheat trout
you can if you want.
personally i think it'd be better to hop in a discord vc
oh shit yeah
nice
easier like that
hearty vapor
Any% NMG gets fleece still tho? I really would've thought I'd just be faster to ...
fleece is huge in silk cradle especially, anura and anchordeep are fine but silk cradle enemies are very tanky, u really want the dmg buildup
modest stratus
easier like that
another thing is we playin by downpatched version
wheat trout
ye im on .10
modest stratus
if you don't have downpatched get it
modest stratus
ye im on .10
sweet
verbal violet
Oh fair
Still gonna wait a bit before running. Unless NG+ expeditions are runnable eventually I'd love to try those out thanks to the IGT
modest stratus
@hearty vapor
would you be down?
wheat trout
a speedrunner role would be sweet but I get that it's a big ask
we coulda tagged it rn
modest stratus
a speedrunner role would be sweet but I get that it's a big ask
@copper trout
pleaseeeee
hearty vapor
<@825381204127645758>
would you be down?
for what when
modest stratus
for what when
race, relatively soon
wheat trout
any% race on downpatch
hearty vapor
sure i guess
wheat trout
ayooo
verbal violet
Good luck to everyone racing btw
wheat trout
cheers, we ll put on a show
just hope it wont be dying to shamura 3 times in a row for me
modest stratus
im gonna rec
verbal violet
Get out there and set up the fastest cult known to lambkind
modest stratus
alright i need to get ready rq
verbal violet
I would but family's over
wheat trout
ah sweet, enjoy urselves
verbal violet
You too, thx
hearty vapor
ah i don't have a mic tho
wheat trout
brb bathroom rq
im ashamed to admit how many times I thought I was fine but then had to take a leak at the 40 min mark of a run
lmao
based
terse ruin
are you doing a race?
modest stratus
Ye
hearty vapor
i'm rdy, waiting
wheat trout
rdy
modest stratus
Yes!
wheat trout
ffs
copper trout
<@113425426059161600>
pleaseeeee
Im waiting for it to be made lol
narrow snow
@wheat trout i dont know if someone answered you but we have the values on how things scale between difficulties and followers literally age faster on higher difficulties.
Also on the matter spliting 100% between glitchless and glitched.
I dont think glitches help. Far as i know the only glitch any% uses is for getting to Midas early and sacrificing 4 followers to him really hurts devotion generation. Now if theres a glitch to declare multiple doctrines at once, that would be extremely helpful we could get inspire and resurrection on day 3 and 4 that would be huge. Honestly just getting more doctrines earlier is helpful
modest stratus
Kk
wheat trout
SHIT FUCK IM MISSING FOLLOWERS
done
im so sad i was on 17 followers so I had to do a witness run
was at like 1 hour twenty something
livid basin
If you had all followers, it would have been about 1:27:00
if you had to indoctrinate all
I takes about 4-5mins to do
wheat trout
yeup
well at least it feels good to finally have some splits on there
thx for the race guys
had fun
it's 3 am on the dot so gnite xd
hearty vapor
softlocked on temple and i had to exit but autosplitter resetted my time
was 10 minutes ahead of u in real time
livid basin
I suggest turning off auto resets
blazing forum
^
hearty vapor
well usually im not continuing a run after softlocking xd
blazing forum
basically subtract 5m or so
for me it was just about getting splits to compare to next time
wheat trout
for race runs thats pretty zesty
wheat trout
for me it was just about getting splits to compare to next time
ye same
hearty vapor
i was group pressured into it i had no reason
wheat trout
fair nuff
warped breach
NMG Current Patch New AS :
Bad run btw , lost 1 min on fish , and too much hit in spider land, but no death (:
north birch
<@191990694858981376> i dont know if someone answered you but we have the values...
Btw there's an updated chart on the doc page with more clarification on the change of negating death and at note that you lose that bonus upon unlocking a fleece.
wheat trout
<@191990694858981376> i dont know if someone answered you but we have the values...
ye thank you, ik about the chart but does that affect followers that you buy as is?
torpid atlas
hey freespirit, just wanted to say, your server pfpf, main profile and banner is a banger
north birch
Technically stuff like hunger/sickness don't affect followers you haven't indoctrinated until they are unless they are either already sick to begin with or still have some "stacks" from Heket/Kallamar's events that give you hunger/sickness.
north birch
hey freespirit, just wanted to say, your server pfpf, main profile and banner is...
Oh thanks 
torpid atlas
banger emotes too
modest stratus
@blazing forum what's your route
blazing forum
ok, done making the salad & cleaning up
I do darkwood -> silk cradle -> anchordeep -> anura
atm
used to do darkwood -> anura -> silk cradle -> anchordeep
apparently doing silk cradle early eliminates some cutscenes, and you actually don't need to do anything for your followers because you don't need to feed them lol
and they don't die from sick
narrow snow
God almost 5 hours in and i at 25/47 divine inspirations. But i’ve only got 4 more dungeon runs to do.
narrow snow
Im too tired to continue right now. Also it was getting pretty laggy. Best call it a night and jump in again in the morning.
livid basin
Good call
dull horizon
100% routing???
pog
also for any% i think anura last is optimal
it almost completely removes gauntlets from the game until anura
buoyant granite
I'm going to go through and verify the top 3 runs submitted I think
Are these the three runs that are up now? Or are they the original ones that got removed and are back again
blazing forum
I had a question in the mod channel that pertained to that
and it never got answered
so
sorry guys lol
autumn niche
how did you do that on current patch GGs man
Great RNG and agressive playstyle combined I guess
I almost died in every boss fight lol
buoyant granite
@autumn niche are you gonna keep running current patch or will you downgrade or some combination of both?
buoyant granite
I had a question in the mod channel that pertained to that
Also kinda relating to this, ik you're not a mod and just verifier but do you reckon I could run one livesplit with current autosplit and another livesplit with old autosplit on my layout just so I have a comparison to work off of with the times we know wr is on old autosplits?
blazing forum
I mean, i don't see why not.
buoyant granite
OK cool
Also also is my submission with a stream layout an issue for verification cause the game isn't fullscreen?
blazing forum
That's not something I can attest to. If we continue to do manual retiming, then no. If we only use the script, then yes. If we actually trust the autosplitter (assuming this is the new one) then no.
etc
I would assume we would just manually retime if we continue retiming
autumn niche
<@257664094398709760> are you gonna keep running current patch or will you downg...
I downgraded yesterday because I was in sub 1:08 vibes but now that we have a new auto splitter idk man
Might be running 1.0.11 till I get close to 1:10 again and then I'll resume running current patch
buoyant granite
That's not something I can attest to. If we continue to do manual retiming, then...
Yeah ok, I'm assuming this will depend on how accurate we find the new autosplit?
blazing forum
again, idk.
autumn niche
Maybe I'll try running on both auto splitters tomorrow
buoyant granite
I downgraded yesterday because I was in sub 1:08 vibes but now that we have a ne...
SHEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSHHHHH
That's mad
Cause assuming you had done that exact same run on downpatch it would've probs been like a 1:08 right?
grim bolt
What a disastee in rules
autumn niche
Cause assuming you had done that exact same run on downpatch it would've probs b...
I'm sure it would be at least 1:09
buoyant granite
ok im starting up any% runs again for wr again on stream if anyone is still awake and wants to watch :))
little willow
it almost completely removes gauntlets from the game until anura
O rly
Which one removes the slow ass hammer :((
blazing forum
my original route had silk cradle 1 with the guaranteed hammer and omg it was so easy
literally 2 shot boss every time
little willow
doctor just gave me a prescription for skill issue
im p sure last night i did silk cradle first actually
i got hard clapped in anchordeep tho
which was the last one i did iirc
blazing forum
i mean that's the current route
little willow
so like DW3-Goldfleece-DW4-Silk Cradle
blazing forum
DW, SC, AD, A
halcyon grove
why do people say A instead of AN
little willow
i assumed A was Amura
blazing forum
it is
halcyon grove
it is
little willow
why the fk would we says AN then LMAO
little willow
see
halcyon grove
consist'ency
blazing forum
lol
little willow
maybe i should try to do it last
see if that helps
also i need to fucking take a chill
im being so fking aggro stupid shit hits me
also random complaint, any mob that flies at u and has a small red arrow towards their location they will fly
am i the only one who have a hard time seeing the arrow
halcyon grove
they always fly at your position so i dont use the arrow
little willow
so ur staring at them or trying to take them out first?
cus i feel like i can get confus when im in a big arena and they just chill on the side into randomly flying at me
halcyon grove
i just am always moving
little willow
dodging i would assume
halcyon grove
yeah
halcyon grove
no
little willow
hm
halcyon grove
i just suck
little willow
i mean same
i am wondering if 60 fps will make the game "easier"
since enemies will move "slower"
halcyon grove
i dont cap at all
little willow
like toad boss for example, his tounge might actually have a small indicator for when he does it
or the 4 armed boss which i cant remember the name of
Kammura?
halcyon grove
kallimar
little willow
close?
blazing forum
like calimari
halcyon grove
shammura is the spider one
blazing forum
the food
blazing forum
wormy boi
halcyon grove
i always saw him as a tree
little willow
Leshy is free af lol
halcyon grove
yeah
blazing forum
he's supposed to be ;P
little willow
well
halcyon grove
so is shammura if you have hammer + decent gf
blazing forum
heket doesn't bother me at all, but most of my runs die either somewhere before shamura (I've yet to lose to shamura lol) or on army boi
halcyon grove
satan Kallimar fucking sucks
little willow
but i still want there to be a god damn indicator of when they attack, both Heket for his tounge lash and Kallimar for his melees like dagger
halcyon grove
i think heket has an indicator but it appears for barely any time
little willow
hence why i think 60fps might be better for practice/learning
cus i think the game is a LOT faster enemy wise on uncapped
like i havent checked how much fps i get but i would imagine over 200
little willow
lmao
halcyon grove
and since obs stutters my game so much (thanks linux) i have to use another recording software
little willow
do u have limit capture framerate on?
halcyon grove
i dont know
little willow
hang on
basically on ur ingame properties there's that little box saying limit capture framerate
blazing forum
imagine having to limit capture rate
little willow
if ur fps is too high then obs will stutter with some games
blazing forum
ingame properties just say max framerate
which tbh you could set to 60 and be fine
I run at 300 fight me
blazing forum
I have a 3070ti lol
little willow
so do i
LMAO
doesnt mean i wanna BONK my recordings :((
again tho, it's different from game to game
blazing forum
with a 5800X cpu
halcyon grove
bruh i have gtx1070ti my gpu sucks lol
little willow
like when i ran RE7
if i didnt have limit capture framerate on it would stutter the fk outta the recording
blazing forum
if your shit is stuttering recording its because you're running out of a resource, in general
if your computer is trying to do something at 300 fps but runs out of cpu/gpu/memory, it stutters
part of the reason why limiting your game's framerate is good
I usually limit mine to my monitor's 144hz, but CotL doesn't let me so I leave it uncapped
obs shouldn't randomly stutter unless your pc can't handle it
little willow
so ur telling me
my pc is shit now
first u say im shit
now im pc
the audacity
blazing forum
no?
little willow
im joking c:
blazing forum
I had a 1660 and I had to constantly limit my games
it's good practice to anyway, gives longer lifespan to gpu
also check what fps you're recording at
halcyon grove
i play like only 5 very un intensive games, will i be fine?
blazing forum
both
little willow
yeah cus OBS is
halcyon grove
to give perspective cotl is my second highest intensive game i consistently play
little willow
i'll try with 60 on CotL like i said, but that's mostly to make it "easier" see if that works lmao
thick elk
Today I was just having fun with the run and I found out way, how to get out of bounds in Cult after making 1st food https://clips.twitch.tv/AmorphousEncouragingFalconFutureMan-o9AESWumy678rBCP . So far I didn't find use for this, but its still interesting
modest stratus
known about this for a long time now
gonna create a racetime.gg page for the game
modest stratus
ye
halcyon grove
is it kind of like speedrunslive
modest stratus
100% like it
halcyon grove
cool
modest stratus
halcyon grove
nice
modest stratus
i think i did it right
halcyon grove
ayyyyyyyyy
modest stratus
MF THAT WAS INSTANT
halcyon grove
lol it was less than 20 mins later
modest stratus
Yeah no def need to retime, im about to head to sleep and im not on my pc at the moment
So I'll do that later
modest stratus
ayyyyyyyyy
Search it now, we gotsa a cool image
halcyon grove
neat
modest stratus
Would anyone be down to do a race 7:30am EST?
So like, 13 hours and 3 minutes from now
@buoyant granite
halcyon grove
hes eating dinner rn
modest stratus
Makes sense
buoyant granite
Would anyone be down to do a race 7:30am EST?
yeah id be down
i think thats like 10:30am for me
im assuming you meant 7:30pm for you right?
ill just have to not wake up at midday for once lmao
halcyon grove
ill join in just for fun as long as i can drop out when i inevitably fail lmao
modest stratus
ill join in just for fun as long as i can drop out when i inevitably fail lmao
You can but then we'd call you a poo poo pants
modest stratus
oh wait youre nz right?
Yeee
halcyon grove
You can but then we'd call you a poo poo pants
buoyant granite
so yeah 10:30 easy doable
halcyon grove
im ahead lol
modest stratus
Practice to race, to fill runs
modest stratus
I 100% will
halcyon grove
i dont use mic so i will ig
modest stratus
Make sure to create a account
wheat trout
owo race??
little crest
man i wish i could join
theres a very slim chance i could but im moving to thailand and i packed up my desktop tonight
i could maybe configure everything on my laptop
ill give it a shot either way
little crest
Would anyone be down to do a race 7:30am EST?
im gonna assume they meant pm lol
bc if not, that time has already passed
buoyant granite
yes pm haha
little crest
havent finished a run yet but theres no time like a race lol
little willow
having races is always so much fun
little crest
yeah i participated in a few when i speedran undertale
little willow
surely wont be the last c:
little willow
also incentivises people not resetting
which is something a lot of people do early game if they go like +10 early game
but maybe have insane golds later they just dont know about 
little crest
i think considering the state of the game rn, its very possible a new wr is achieved
little willow
i honestly hate talking about wr's as absolutes this early when the timing method just got agreed upon yesterday
but i completely agree with u c:
little crest
also idk if this is something the dev team would be willing to do/share but wouldnt it be way easier to downpatch to the version with uncapped damage if they provided a beta for it on steam?
or a beta code
little willow
yeah it definetly would
it's not super bad to downpatch tho
but it would be for sure easier with beta key
little crest
yeah its just kind of annoying and could def be a roadblock for new ppl looking to do a run
little willow
also something i was wondering was how amazing it would be if he were able to actually pick our weapon at every crusade start
little crest
for example, the process of getting the right version of undertale to do the most optimal runs is super complicated that it turns a ton of ppl away
little willow
like imagine having sword every crusade 
ah it's not so bad here actually, u just get the download depot and use the console command once
then u have the downpatch
little crest
yeah ive done it
it would be very intimidating for someone who doesnt know what theyre doing
little willow
yaeh i can see that be a thing
little crest
for UT, u have to download a beta, delete a few files, and then edit the source code with a hex editor lmao
little willow
i mean it was hoenstly a thing for me when i was introduced to DS3
dark souls 3*
oh wow that seems
super annoying for a new person
unless there's a tutorial video
little crest
its only one piece of data u have to edit
the reason being is that the most optimal version is linux 1.001
little willow
yah but stuff like that is enough for some people at least to be liek "ah i cant be arsed"
little crest
and u have to do that to make it playable on windows
linux 1.001 undertale allows for both z and enter + x and shift to be used at the same time
makes text mashing way faster
little crest
that would be disingenous
its part of the run
making a hotkey would remove it from the run
little willow
it's part of the run to mash 3 buttons instead of holding a button?
little crest
text mashing is a key skill component in running undertale
little crest
its a story based game with thousands of text boxes
little crest
x or shift skips to the end of a text box and z or enter confirms it to go to the next one
yes there are choicers
little crest
there are 93 different possible endings to UT
so making the fastest choices is part of the run
little willow
yeah like i said, mass effect runs are the same
little crest
didnt say they werent
little willow
but i mean those are the rules, then they are the rules c:
yeye it's just difference of opinions, nothing wrong with that ❤️
little crest
to me its like if you made a script that automatically hits enemies whe u get in range for cult of the lamb
that takes out a key part of the run
little willow
yeah so that's where i disagree completely
cus it's not making the correct decisions for u
it's just skipping the text boxes u have to look at anyways
then u can use manual mashing when u get close to the choices u have to make
if that makes sense?
that's how it's used in Mass Effect at least, they use the hotkey for places where it's legit just a bunch of convo and no options but manually click when it's choices that save time etc
little crest
i would say u should watch an undertale run bc it fits into the run in a very different way
little willow
yah it might be
little crest
when ur not mashing through dialogue, there is constant movement
the transition from movement, fights, dialogue, exploits
is all part of the difficulty
little willow
actually curious im gonna watch one now
little crest
and oftentimes the text is part of the exploit
text overflows make up like 80% of the skips and glitches
using an in game item called the punch card
little willow
im watching the wr run
little willow
does this runner have the buttons over and below the buttons he's pressing taken out?
yeah it's link
little crest
looks like it yeah
little willow
lmfao
little crest
like i said, mashing is taken very seriously lol
ppl practice it for hours a day
and theres multiple different strats used
little willow
yeah i can see why autohotkeys will never happen LOL
little crest
theres a built in thing in deltarune thats used
so mashing is irrelevant
but not in ut
little willow
are encounters rng?
little willow
cus they were talking about having slow reactions
little crest
its not as relevant in any% as it is in geno
little willow
in an encounter i didnt see KEKW
little crest
best rng compared to worst rng would make like 2 min time difference in the entire run
but usually it wont be that drastic
where in geno it could be like 20 minutes
little willow
l o l
little crest
the first bossfight also has a ton of rng in it
certain attacks are way faster
so when he talks about hands thats what he means
lucid gate
Hello!
little willow
yeh saw someone in chat say "will we get hands now, Toriel"
little crest
yeah lol
little willow
"hands modcheck" LUL
little crest
basically if u get a hand and run into it, it skips directly to ur next turn
little willow
i think they got hands lol
little crest
well it doesnt matter if u get them at all
it matters how many times
7 hands is the best
little crest
thats insanely good for ruins
little willow
no i mean their best time could be -9
little crest
and yeah ruins is the most reset and rng heavy part of the run
little willow
they get -3.5
little crest
things actually get exciting when they get to waterfall
little willow
very interesting run
little crest
thats where u pick up the punchcard and start skipping through the entire game
little crest
yeah ive been in the utsr community for the better part of 5 yrs
currently in the process of making a "history of undertale any% wrs" video
little willow
that's dope!
little crest
very time consuming
been 6 months in the works and ive only just finished with research lmao
theres so much to go over
not to mention over 100 hours of wr footage to watch through
but itll be worth it
and yeah if ur wondering why they keep dying to papyrus, its faster to die 3x in a row than actually beat him lol
little willow
lol
little crest
and each time they bring up the punchcard on screen to use it for an exploit, its frame perfect
little willow
my god lol
little willow
frame perfect is still frame perfect
little willow
yeah i could imagine it's a timing thing that just get's under ur skin after a while
little crest
yeah
little willow
like it just becomes second nature
little crest
the other important thing to not is that when they get to asgore
a perfect hit is considered a quad
which means they hit right on the marker 4 times and did the most damage
little willow
like quad dmg?
little willow
huh interesting
little crest
each hit in the middle is 30fps frame perfect
little willow
lolol
little crest
and the perfect asgore (TASgore as its referred to) is 9 perfect turns with 4 hits each
meaning 36 frame perfects in a row
its been done like 3 times
theres a practice mod for practicing asgore fights and link holds the wr for the most quads in a row
he hit over 100 frame perfects in a row
guys cracked
little willow
lololol
rancid dust
Today I was just having fun with the run and I found out way, how to get out of ...
happened to me once or two, too bad this can't be exploited
narrow snow
Yeah 100% looks to be a 7 hour run. I hit 7 hours still have like 6 divine inspiration to get and the silk cradle witness eye.
Fortunately thats RTA on switch and i suck at crusades so i dont use golden fleece. There’s huge room for improvement over this time.
sudden nacelle
Yeah 100% looks to be a 7 hour run. I hit 7 hours still have like 6 divine inspi...
Is this for easy?
And waiting for the day when Knucklebones becomes a category, I am ready to submit runs
narrow snow
Yeah easy. I dont even want to think about starting an extra hard since everything happens faster
hearty vapor
i think i'll quit speedrunning for now, no point when i have to roll a dice each run and if it lands on 6 my graphics card driver will crash an hour in
modest stratus
everybody getting ready for the race? it's starting in 4 more hours!
dull horizon
wait race wtf
modest stratus
yeah
modest stratus
wait race wtf
dull horizon
how do you use this website lol
modest stratus
how do you use this website lol
create a account
create a new race
choose the category
rules
etc.
start the race
everybody readys up
puts the race on there livesplit
modest stratus
Dammit
modest stratus
What rules, Steve?
Usual rules. Presaves allowed
blazing forum
Gonna go make account soon :v
autumn niche
Current patch or downgraded?
New autosplit?
fluid sleet
what time is the race starting?
blazing forum
oh. looks like technically mello said 4:30 PM PST/ 7:30 PM EST. So more like 2 hours 45 minutes
https://racetime.gg/cotl/cute-pipboy-9848 join up here. Though feel free to wait till close to the timer too
I'll post it again then
I usually don't feel comfortable joining races/tournaments that I run unless I need to for numbers reasons, so if we get enough people I'll stream it instead 👀
modest stratus
Right now it's downpatched and using new AS
you can join on livesplit by right clicking, hovering over racetime.gg and joining there
fierce tangle
Would like to join but I can't tell my boss tomorrow that I was late due to a speedrun of COTL
sadge
blazing forum
lol
little willow
i mean u can
they will just have followup questions
and maybe a conversation about ur role at the company
modest stratus
you can join on livesplit by right clicking, hovering over racetime.gg and joini...
Find out more here:
modest stratus
Would like to join but I can't tell my boss tomorrow that I was late due to a sp...
We plan on doing a major one soon. More details later
halcyon grove
Well nvm I can’t join my if it’s 4:30
modest stratus
Pst?
modest stratus
We can make it ealier or later, we need enough people
wheat trout
I can join if it's a tad earlier
blazing forum
like 4 or like earlier than that
wheat trout
the earlier the better for me, so for now let's say 4 and see if it messes other folks up for not
grim bolt
I will participate in the race
so eleotan current patch WR hasn't been verified?
hey guys, we also require an ASL versioning system :p
wheat trout
🥴
grim bolt
so we can upload attempts mentioning the game version and the ASL version
Someone remind me please the current rules?
blazing forum
uh
the goal is to see the credits, I don't think there's anything NOT allowed atm (besides editing files or something like that obviously)
grim bolt
didn't someone said the time stops on TOWW kneel?
wheat trout
new asl does stop it there, aye
blazing forum
yeah, time starts the first frame of the first red quote thing at the beginning
little willow
yeah i guess just get to the kneeling part asap
blazing forum
and ends on clicking kneel
grim bolt
I have it like this right now, it is good?
blazing forum
ye
I suggest in a race to turn off the 'reset' thing at the top of the settings
in case you get softlocked or something
grim bolt
sounds good
little willow
surely no one get's softlocked for no reason Clueless
grim bolt
hey all, are you up for a call for the race?
wheat trout
mates is there any way to cap fps to a specific number, a .ini somewhere or somesuch?
little willow
uhh rivatuner probably @wheat trout ?
warped breach
I mean stuff like the ratau temple dialog skip lol
Just start building a little before the door's spawn, then instant roll into, never get softlock here with this
grim bolt
same, it is easy to avoid the softlock
little willow
i didnt even know u could skip Rataus dialogue there
i got softlocked once by running into temple instantly
modest stratus
mates is there any way to cap fps to a specific number, a .ini somewhere or some...
Nope, need to use rivatuna which would be banned as it is a third party app
little willow
lmao
blazing forum
for what
little willow
what fps were u looking to cap at?
modest stratus
Just wanna say, gl to the runners who are participating in the race
wheat trout
144 for my refresh rate
grim kayak
Have bosses AI been studied yet ? Is there some document with all info ?
for example I'm looking at Shamura's AI in the game code rn and I found odds for each pattern, behaviour depending on its distance to the lamb, etc...
wheat trout
afaik theres not much info on stuff like that flying around, so pls do share
grim kayak
afaik theres not much info on stuff like that flying around, so pls do share
okok ! I might work on a flowchart for each boss or something like this, it just takes time and i've got a job :')
wheat trout
ur a hero
grim kayak
and i'm nowhere near a unity dev or a modder so i'm limited to code reading
blazing forum
don't undersell yourself. Stuff like that takes time and dedication lol
also, reading other people's code is blerghhhh
grim kayak
i've got no complain on this code so far ^^
modest stratus
I know bossess first move is the same
grim kayak
I know bossess first move is the same
it's actually not for Shamura, they've got 50/50 odds for "JumpAttack" and "JumpAround".
grim kayak
it's actually not for Shamura, they've got 50/50 odds for "JumpAttack" and "Jump...
The code is very similar for both, i'm not sure of the nuance yet
checking frog
grim bolt
Kallamar either summons or danmaku attack
blazing forum
p sure heket also just jumps first
hearty vapor
nah heket for sure can either jump forward on you or backward for tongue attack
but on kallimar idk, i don't think i've ever seen kallimar not summon at the beginning
blazing forum
i mean he always jumps tho 😛
grim kayak
Heket has 3 different first patterns, all same odds
First pattern : Jump to you anticipating your direction and "burp projectiles"
Second pattern : jump to 'sit position" (I guess that's top of screen) and rapid tongue attack
Third pattern : jump to lamb position (i think?) and "mortar strike targeted" attack
I gotta match attack names and what they actually look like in game, names in the code confuse me sometimes 😬
I'll stop for now, it's 12:15am for me and I work tomorrow
warped breach
Nice job btw ! And goodnight mate 🙂
wheat trout
gnite Yamei
grim kayak
(btw i only look into it because no one did it, if anyone is interested into flowcharting boss AIs from game code i will thank you :D )
hearty vapor
(btw i only look into it because no one did it, if anyone is interested into flo...
if you could explain to me how to get the game code i would look into some stuff too
blazing forum
Race starts in 40
grim kayak
if you could explain to me how to get the game code i would look into some stuff...
I decompiled the game code using ilspy, just following the first half of this tutorial : https://youtu.be/S6vS8DmlyYU
hearty vapor
I decompiled the game code using ilspy, just following the first half of this tu...
thanks!
blazing forum
Any% speedrun race starts in 30 min! Sign up here: https://racetime.gg/cotl/cute-pipboy-9848
hearty vapor
when i open livesplit and select the race in the racetime.gg menu my livesplit just crashes, is that normal?
hearty vapor
i'm on latest version and everything so idk
blazing forum
Would people like me to stream & commentate or join the race. idc much which I enjoy both 🙂
hearty vapor
commentating and trashtalking everyone sounds funny
blazing forum
"oh man he messed up the skip AHAHAHA"
nah I've done stuff like starcraft2, dota2, smash, etc commentating lol
as long as I know the source I'm aight at it
hearty vapor
when i open livesplit and select the race in the racetime.gg menu my livesplit j...
had the newest version, 1.8.21, now i got 1.8.8 and it works normally
blazing forum
lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯
buoyant granite
Wait are we starting in 20 mins or in an hour and 20 mins?
wheat trout
20 mins
hearty vapor
also how does this work then, does the timer start automatically 15 seconds before, and we just click new file when it reaches zero?
wheat trout
I think so, yeah
fluid sleet
commentating and trashtalking everyone sounds funny
grim bolt
so you guys are up for call all together in the race?
modest stratus
when i open livesplit and select the race in the racetime.gg menu my livesplit j...
Try rebooting ur pc
grim bolt
or nah?
modest stratus
Or run it as admin
fluid sleet
so you guys are up for call all together in the race?
I don't know if I will bc my mic is weird lately
hearty vapor
Try rebooting ur pc
downloading an older version fixed it, it only happened on 1.8.21,
modest stratus
downloading an older version fixed it, it only happened on 1.8.21,
Weird
hearty vapor
maybe some file was corrupt idk
modest stratus
@blazing forum I'm assuming you're streaming?
blazing forum
I would be, yeah
fluid sleet
@blazing forum you're able to watch every POV?
fluid sleet
o shit I'm gonna choke so bad lmao
buoyant granite
OK I should be able to get there, I defs didn't just wake up LMAO
wheat trout
OK I should be able to get there, I defs didn't just wake up LMAO
ideal cotl running scenario
fluid sleet
I mean, I got a 1:34 last race
I'm really bad the past few days, I'm in a 5 choked runs streak hahaha
warped breach
It's mandatory to stream if we participate ?
fluid sleet
It's mandatory to stream if we participate ?
I don't think so
hearty vapor
last time discord streaming was causing stutters :(
can confirm, discord streaming was very weird with multiple people
fluid sleet
it's really just for fun
hearty vapor
but idk any alternative
fluid sleet
If people don't want to stream I'll just join lol
I'm up for it, but I won't have a mic
and I think my pov won't be that interesting haha
fluid sleet
I don't remember will it be pre patch?
blazing forum
you can
any patch
8 MINUTES TILL RACE!! SIGN UP HERE: https://racetime.gg/cotl/cute-pipboy-9848
fluid sleet
k
wheat trout
oh wait we're all gonna be perfectly synced now so I can just stream without overlays
sick
blazing forum
join CotL voice chat if you can
modest stratus
Its quick to do
warped breach
join CotL voice chat if you can
I'm not comfortable with the oral english sorry :/
fluid sleet
I'm not comfortable with the oral english sorry :/
I'm going to be muted too
not that comfortable either
blazing forum
#💨・speedrunning message how to downpatch
modest stratus
https://racetime.gg/about/livesplit
Runners, if you havent already. DO THIS IN LIVESPLIT
good luck to you all, have a good time
@blazing forum recommend moving to general so all the runners can join
blazing forum
it auto saves
narrow snow
Did i seriously soft lock on the last phase the TOWW? Well ive quit now so. Anywho 7:50 is what I’m calling this. I am terrible at this game and playing on switch so runs shouldn’t take quite that long. But yeah this is long.
onyx finch
hey I'm trying to modify my doctrine in my savefile but I'm struggling to understand how to properly do this, does anyone have experience with already editing the doctrine that could help me out?
narrow snow
You cant? Once you declare a doctrine that is what you have.
onyx finch
It's possible to change your doctorine through editing your safe file after u decrypt it, I just need help properly changing it 🙂 @narrow snow
narrow snow
Ah well that is definitely beyond me.
halcyon grove
whos winning?
blazing forum
eleo by a fraction of 1 area
halcyon grove
damn
fluid sleet
I'm tilted
halcyon grove
rip
north birch
How long have these races been going for?
I assume there was multiple rounds at this point