hunt-general

[left orbit]

kiteskin catalyst goated

[fast moth]

bro what I just won 2 games in a row 3-4 kills each went from 4 stars to 3

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-12993999557818669691

[late walrus]

why am i getting so many solos in 6* rn

this is so weird

[fast moth]

I mean the higher the stars the more solos you'll see

[scarlet quail]

you should see 2 star lobbies

[late walrus]

what lmao

[scarlet quail]

I'm 4 star and get placed with 2 stars when I'm solo and shit you not there's 5 solos minimum

[fast moth]

I mean I haven't been in 6* for a while but it was mostly sweat solos

[neon glacier]

wrong

[fast moth]

I mean it's my experience u can't invalidate that

don't know bout nowadays

[neon glacier]

peak

[lavish bear]

son i js got a free mosin sniper and dolch from clash

[scarlet quail]

heh buddy... you don't know how wrong you are......

[lavish bear]

peak game mode

[scarlet quail]

genuinely who takes that shit to clash

[lavish bear]

it was the exact same guy that ducked my lobby too

i wiped him😭

[scarlet quail]

average Mosin in clash user

[raven totem]

https://steamcharts.com/app/594650

[fast moth]

actual best thing they ever did

[delicate narwhal]

just got 4 nitro kills, new record in one game for me lol

[lavish bear]

aimbot

[neon glacier]

must be

[delicate narwhal]

or playing against other clueless 3 stars lol

[late walrus]

right now on US east theres rarely a solo in full 6 lobbies

cause to be high 6 to get that to happen you have to either play like a huge bitch or just be THAT much better

[fast moth]

back in 2023-2024 EU lobbies were full of em

[late walrus]

alot of people arent that much better

i know EU lobbies have alot of solos

[fast moth]

yeah i'm not sure about US

but in eu we got a bunch of them

[upbeat lark]

its the place where i go to steal borrow a drilling

[lavish bear]

nah

[wheat zealot]

is there maintenence or something?

[raven totem]

More has changed since then, a few times

[fast moth]

holy shit I just queued with a dude with a 3.1m bounty

[sturdy pulsar]

What does 3.1 m bounty mean tho

[left orbit]

3.1 million bounty collected

[upbeat lark]

They have played long enough to have gotten 3.1m total coins from bounty

I only have 314k from about 400h of playtime

[whole mist]

Guh

[crystal holly]

I wish I was better

[left orbit]

ez: just don't die

[fast moth]

I just got a wildland is it rare?

[hollow crescent]

not particularly, at least one sealed weapon crate is guaranteed to spawn every match with it having 50/50 chance of having either a homestead or a wildland

with that said it is a good gun, so use it well

[fast moth]

preciate you 🙏

[left orbit]

put iron eye on it at least

[uneven flax]

Ye

[scarlet quail]

grab levering and you can make those outlines of bodies in cartoons because you won't hit a damn thing

[dreamy cave]

@unique trail4 U 👊🏿

[past locust]

wildland is just a centennial with a speed loader right

homestead is just a double barreled romero right

[dense sleet]

better damage, velocity

[upbeat lark]

It isn't "just" it's better in every stat

[random nimbus]

Doesn't the Wildland cross the 125 damage threshold?

[turbid dock]

It do

[random nimbus]

That alone is a pretty big deal for the Cent, which has always struggled with that little bit of damage

[void bough]

melee is the best

[past locust]

sword kills feel the best imo

katana and sabre

[wicked fox]

That was awesome. I like to retreat and when I’m pursued, turn around and attack, using their aggression against them.

[urban steppe]

What no kiteskin does to a mf

😹 😹 😹

[shadow surge]

anyone looking for a teammate?

[turbid dock]

Sun tzu wrote about this

[unique trail]

Brother I dont take four hits to get a dusters kill

[upbeat lark]

I believe with that he would still die unless kiteskin plus catalyst

[urban steppe]

true
He didn't do the tech where you jump onto the ledges/hug the wall to slow yourself down to take less fall damage

[cursive snow]

here

na west message me for duos or trios dont mind im prestige6

[uneven flax]

Hello chat

I woke up at 1pm cause i wasplaying hunt til 2am

[raw flower]

is the announcement just for memorial day or is it an event teaser

[halcyon summit]

teaser for summer event I think

[ancient hatch]

Any of yall met Buckshot

[upbeat lark]

I woke up at 11am yesterday and miss my group presentation

[hot dune]

[uneven flax]

classic student

[upbeat lark]

Indeed

[uneven flax]

you dont live with parents i gather

if that was me id have been woken up with a sore butt

[upbeat lark]

Yea my college is an island away from my parents house so I need to rent a place

[past locust]

r u filipino

[upbeat lark]

Nope

[past locust]

what are you nationality wise

[upbeat lark]

Well close in that group

[upbeat lark]

Indonesian

[past locust]

i hope your studies go well

[upbeat lark]

Thankyou

I wish that the absence yesterday doesn't tank my score too much

[cursive dirge]

Hey, just used a hangman card, and the person showed with a red boarder around them-like when you're on low health, or similar to the darksite 75m proximity warning, but red and bloody.

I don't use hangman very often, but never seen that before, what does it mean?

[neon glacier]

why the game thinks i want to defuse flare and not stop my teammate burn

[lofty sinew]

hunt has never touched the idea of there being a priority list for using action keys

why? your guess is as good as anyones

[past locust]

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-cute-dog-dog-meme-mulch-gmail-gif-6988767900405639330

[neon glacier]

i dont understand crytek sometimes

[hot dune]

How so?

[hot dune]

If you have the defuse skill then it takes priority

[cursive dirge]

Anyone?
I've never seen this before. Is it a proximity warning, or low health warning, or what?

[lofty sinew]

no clue. if you wanted more chance of an answer a screenshot would help

[cursive dirge]

Didnt think to take one at the time

The player wasn't moving, and it was showing all red. But if it was a health thing, I'd expect them to heal in the time I'm watching (even naturally)

[lofty sinew]

according to the interweb it's because they were watching you at the same time, via the hanged man

which is either wrong or a pretty weird coincidence

but would explain them not being moving at the time you were watching them

[cursive dirge]

That would be a weird coincidence...

[past locust]

me and one of my random trio teammates

[hot dune]

Ugg just ran into 6 people teaming

I did kill the same guy 3 times in a row with a beetle so all is well

[left orbit]

i'd be mad like never cursing you of newb being my screen

[solid mantle]

can someone tell me what this means?

Received an indescribable honor.

[vale bronze]

so when are we making the mosins and other "strong meta guns" scarce guns so everyone in 6* lobbies isnt running them

[lofty sinew]

somewhere between never and when hell freezes over I imagine

[uneven flax]

Crytek loves their OP "premium" weapons.

it sucks but that's just nature of extraction shooters i suppose

i wish they still get nerfed though

[lofty sinew]

it doesn't have to be. but Cryteks complete silence on the subject speaks pretty loudly.

[uneven flax]

how is the gun differences in other extraction shooters?

hunt is my 2nd pvp extraction shooter

i know arc has strong high tier guns like the bobcat or the venator

[lofty sinew]

i have no clue where arc gun balance is at, but at least when i was playing most of the "top tier" weapons could get spanked by a kettle (base level gun)

[uneven flax]

kettle had macro issues at launch

[vale bronze]

just make them scarce its so stupid that every match in 6* is just mosins and auto 4s

[lofty sinew]

granted this is still true of hunt (any gun can win a fight) but in most other games they try to attach some significant risk or penalty to that choice, that Hunt just doesn't bother with at all.

[neon glacier]

what would that change

ppl are going to use spam then

[raven totem]

You say the current is op yet hunts weapons used to scale higher, specifically power weapons and snipers

[lofty sinew]

it would change which weapon combo was considered the meta. that's all really.

[vale bronze]

explain your logic

[solid mantle]

i dont know why we crying about meta since every gun kills with a headshot

[lofty sinew]

then you are just being reductionist

[hollow crescent]

arguably a lot worse

tarkov ( and its derivatives ) lock high tier weapons and ammo behind specific walls, i.e traders, crafting, quests what have you

so new players coming in gets fucked even harder because mm doesn't really exist, a 10k gigasweat can play in the same lobby as freshmeats

[lofty sinew]

which isn't useful for having a meaningful discussion about it

[uneven flax]

the problem is bringing two high tier guns together like mosins and auto 4s

i think crytek needs to balance bringing these loadouts. like preventing guns above 300+ hunt dollars from being brought together

[lofty sinew]

yes any gun can win a fight. but we know certain guns have strong advantages in fights. that's why they are chosen.

[hollow crescent]

hunt actually puts people on fairly even playing ground, in the sense that the only barrier is money and skill

plus the MMR system, as imperfect as it is, helps new players

[uneven flax]

this is like stupefying the game's balancing issue tbh....

[hot dune]

Dude on the 3rd beetle he just stood there. Knowing his doom was coming and accepted it lol

[neon glacier]

you make mosin scare you just gonna see less mosin it doesnt make it not meta

[uneven flax]

most games are balanced through money and skill

[solid mantle]

its only my personal opinion but Mosin sucks ass at least for me , obrez is another thing but normal mosin is whack krag and lebel feels way better

[raven totem]

Are they though?

[vale bronze]

yes and the problem with 6* lobbies is 95% of the time losers are running mosins every single match and its boring af.

[hot dune]

Husk is crashing out at the door. Hes like a vampire. No entry without invitation

[lofty sinew]

we're talking about what is considered the meta no? personal opinions not particularly relevant in this case.

[fallow arch]

The mosin match is the best gun in the game

[solid mantle]

yeah i was trying to implement the meta thing as in "everyone uses it so i use it too"

[lofty sinew]

If you can point a gun in the right direction the mosin is the best all around rifle though. that isn't really arguable.

[fallow arch]

Ehhhhh

Krag

[solid mantle]

means jsut because everyone is using it dont nessesarily means it is the best , mosin got several nerfs since release 😄

[remote moss]

youre assuming players have high skill level. this is meta which means krag is worse cause low dmg means less dmg to limb means less consistency at range means shit players perform better with base mosin over base krag

[hollow crescent]

the problem with this idea is that it doesn't really do anything

there is nothing stopping people from hoarding mosins and auto-5 / auto-4s until they get 100s of them and run them every match afterwards

and not only that, even if they become incredibly rare, something else will replace it

the mosin's gone? the lebel, the berthier, the krag

auto-5 / 4? the specter is the 2nd best shotgun in the game for 188 dollars, and other 2 slot shotguns work perfectly fine

[remote moss]

and spitzer exists which just makes shooting really fucking easy for mosin

[hollow crescent]

it solves nothing

[lofty sinew]

krag damage + falloff makes it a worse all-around rifle. in some cases it's better to have.

[fallow arch]

What is the difference between the krag and mosin in terms of damage

[remote moss]

if youre assuming good skill level, yeah krags a beast for consistent fast two taps

[lofty sinew]

126 vs 135

[remote moss]

10 dmg diff roughly

[fallow arch]

I see

[remote moss]

doesnt sound like much but it kicks in once limb dmg is around, and people bitch about their shots not killing at longer distances

so they prefer mosin

[lofty sinew]

it's just the most consistant point and click shooty stick.

[remote moss]

realistically, krag is just better in compound fights cause its higher rof where the limb dmg isnt a problem

[fallow arch]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

Still like the krag

[remote moss]

they even buffed fucking limb dmg because too many people couldnt aim so it was better overall for the playerbase in securing kills

ya, krag is beast

[fallow arch]

The mosin is ok but it's like

[hot dune]

Heres me killing the same dude 3 times in a row with the beetle 😆 by the 3rd he just gave up

[fallow arch]

2 krags in terms of money

[lofty sinew]

they should just flatten the gun tiers imho. but whatever. im so bored of even thinking about something Crytek doesn't really care about for whatever reason

[fallow arch]

Maybe 1 and a half I think

[hollow crescent]

is it really

I don't think you realize how much worse tarkov and its derivatives have it in comparison to what hunt's got going on rn

when the best ammo in the game either takes hours to craft in small batches or locked behind high level traders ( which takes hours to grind quests for ), and the best gun in the game costing upwards of a few hundred thousand of the main currency, while also ignoring other things like armor, heals, stims, grenades, ect, Hunt looks tame, like really fucking tame

especially when you consider that the mosin and the auto-5 is available off rip for everyone, with its main barrier being the steep cost

[remote moss]

"we realized spitzer mosin was too strong but we fundamentally couldnt nerf it without turning the game into higher rof based. nerfing semi auto wont help cause then everyone would still just run high rof guns like vetterli and bad players who used to be able to crutch on mosin are sudddenly completely fucked over by players with better mechanical skill"

[fallow arch]

Tarkov looks insane with its pricing scheme from what I've seen

Especially to spend all that cash, both in and out of game, and get ventilated by a hacker

[remote moss]

i got whatever the expensive version is that came with arena before they removed it like some mfs

[fallow arch]

Ok a death match shooter with tarkov mechanics unironically sounds high tier

[remote moss]

No

it was absolute shit, unbalanced spawns depending on mode and map

[hollow crescent]

or you might not even come anywhere close to breaking even

imagine taking like, 300k roubles ( it's tarkov's main currency ) into a raid, see a team, wipe them, and the loot you get out of all of them is worth like, at best 150k

or you spend a bunch of money on a good key that leads to a room with good shit, only to get absolutely fuckall

[fallow arch]

Jesus H

[remote moss]

its fun casually though

dont touch the ranked, youll just fight stacks that camp and crossfire instead of playing the game

lol

whoever decided to put nades in it was a fucking g

[fallow arch]

I wish someone made war thunder but good

[remote moss]

oh and audio means they can fucking hear and wallbang you while you have to guess cause theyre standing still

[hollow crescent]

yeah, when you see what Tarkov is going through Hunt looks like it's sunshine and rainbows in comparison

and I'm not even saying that Hunt's balancing is good either, it's questionable at best and outright dogshit at worst, but it's nothing in comparison to other extraction shooters

[fallow arch]

Yeah I don't think I've ever really heard a good thing about tarkov ngl

[remote moss]

its addictive cause no competition

[fallow arch]

Unless you count bolt action AK

[fallow arch]

The same reason I have 60 hours in war thunder

I still have nightmares where I'm driving a Sherman and get penned by a German tank

[hollow crescent]

Tarkov has a lot of things going for it

in terms of larping it's one of the better games to do so with how in-depth its gun customization is

and much like Hunt being an underdog and wiping a chad ( or a team of chads ) is a dopamine-inducing experience like no other

there's a reason why ppl stick around

[remote moss]

the gun drip always got me feeling warm

arena was trash but the only way of playing tarkov i could actually tolerate

[urban steppe]

I accidentally wallbanged someone

[remote moss]

hacker

[fallow arch]

Which part was the accident

Shooting the gun or hitting them through a wall

[remote moss]

sussy aimpunch into a headshot wallbang against the guy a floor above?

[urban steppe]

we were pushing one of the window entrances to upper dessale compound

I pre-fired through the walls to make sure no one was holding angle with a shotgun

waiting to blast us as we passed through the doorway

and I killed the bounty carrier

sitting on the other side watching the doorway LOL

[remote moss]

nice

[urban steppe]

I thought they'd be like here

[remote moss]

shotgun rats cant counter the hyper aware rat whos experienced other rats in their lifetime

[urban steppe]

so I started to do a horizontal sweep

of the wall

to make sure no one was holding it from 90 degrees

started from the left side

annnd I hit some random

😹

[remote moss]

tactical decision

[urban steppe]

^

if I hear movement I'd know they were running away to avoid the sweep

[left orbit]

so now we’re making tactical diagrams of hunt games

nice

need tactical planner as in Doors Kickers now

[left orbit]

😭 you got a different dude the second time

[urban steppe]

yes

[fallow arch]

Need a ballistic shield added to hunt in the next update

[remote moss]

would honestly make the game more fun

[left orbit]

uh

no?

[remote moss]

yes

shotguns suddenly cant kill you while you just walk in for free

then you cc them to death, a horrible mechanic but fun

[left orbit]

i mean de-buff shotguns in the first place then

and bow as well

[remote moss]

or if you want to res, just walk ahead of the res target

[fallow arch]

It brings me closer to reenacting Ned Kelly in hunt

[remote moss]

boom, safe res

[left orbit]

but let’s not add an "anti everything" shield

[remote moss]

noooo

just add it as a scarce item like flame rifle

[left orbit]

well ya know what i’ll do when i’ll see the shield

[remote moss]

so only hoarders get to abuse it, and most people want to play the game so they wont collect enough for it to matter in most normal play

even if its broken

[left orbit]

just like concs

[fallow arch]

I mean the nitro express could probably pen it

[dry hawk]

ned kelly armor except it makes you loud as fuck

[left orbit]

i’ll run away

and farm AI

[fallow arch]

And if you get shot in the knees you fall over

[left orbit]

let’s add riot shields
armor plates
autonomous beetles
mortar rounds
minigun baloon with a hidden heliport
reinforced vehicle (let’s call it "turtle of the swamps" … we don’t have turtles yet)
re-add revive shotbolts

and make servers 64v64

[warm anvil]

Anyone else having issues recently with immolator and general player audio being completely borked?

[dry hawk]

battlefield showdown

[fallow arch]

Yknow this sounds similar to another game I played

I think it was called

Tetris

[left orbit]

[left orbit]

wdym more precisely?

[upbeat lark]

add a real exploding beetles

[fallow arch]

I mean we technically already have reinforced vehicles

[warm anvil]

Hard to hear a straight sprinting player behind me. Immolators just make no sound until they're right on top of me.

[fallow arch]

They just kinda sit there though

[left orbit]

uh you mean the extraction carriage and boat?

[fallow arch]

Ye

[left orbit]

i want a cursed train moving on the rails though

imagine

battle on fkin moving trains

SHOWDOWN ON FKIN MOVING CURSED TRAINS

[fallow arch]

I do too

However I think it would put the engine to its limit

[left orbit]

#game-ideas message

[left orbit]

naaaah

i really think cryengine is good, just the game not having received the love it should have in optimizations

it can handle a full nest of moving spoders

and OUTRAGEOUS amounts of AI in compounds

a train will be fine

[fallow arch]

Y'know what you've convinced me

[left orbit]

that was easy

the beauty of a game engine is that sometimes you also don’t need to simulate actual physics to get something pleasant

so the movement can be precalculated

just add sound effects, turning wheels, and the illusion is perfect and the cost minimal

[urban steppe]

This armor
but it makes the noise of metal pots and pans banging against one another with each step

[left orbit]

monty python coconut horse vibes

imagine having a random using that

and you want to be stealthy

[dry hawk]

honestly, if the armor itself isnt too powerful i think this would be relatively balanced

[left orbit]

but you get a cookware advertiser running next to you

[urban steppe]

😹

clop clop clop

[dry hawk]

"Pan shot!"

[left orbit]

i’m actually LOLLING very hard rn

good think i work from home

[left orbit]

impossibiru. how can you haz gf AND play hunt. i don’t believe it.

[uneven flax]

If u dont buy milly badge u get gf

[left orbit]

damn

[warm anvil]

Just had a serious 'wtf' moment where a dynamite bundle exploded at this dude's feet and he survived on half hp

[left orbit]

bulwark + weird physics i guess 🤔

but yeah…

[mortal cove]

@last peak The reason it doesn't go above 60% is prolly because you are bottlenecked by the CPU's main thread or memory bandwidth before you are bottlenecked by raw multithreaded core throughput

[left orbit]

it shouldn’t be

[warm anvil]

Well here's the funny thing. He like, clipped through a stairwell and then just melee killed me.

[mortal cove]

The Zen 2 CPU architecture didn't have insane singlethreaded or memory bandwidth performance for games, even on release

So I'm highly confident it is bottlenecking your RTX 5070, even at a resolution like 3440x1440

[warm anvil]

Either this dude was straight hacking or that is some of the most serious desync I've ever seen in my life

I should have clipped it. It was suspicious as fuck.

[left orbit]

given how hunt can behave i’d say it’s desync issue or something like that. i’ve seen weird shit at windows as well

[mortal cove]

Thanks for the ping btw.
I was asleep already but I got around to it

[left orbit]

plus explosives in hunt are… eh…

[warm anvil]

I don't normally like to throw around hackusations either cause like, I know I'm not amazing at this game lol

[mortal cove]

Consistent ofc

[left orbit]

"consistently inconsistent", as som mod said

[vernal shadow]

https://i.imgur.com/SeVPMx3.png

are you kidding me

[warm anvil]

Why am I being constantly matched with 6 star as a 4 star...

[mortal cove]

Unfortunate

[warm anvil]

Ok I think there's server desync
I have good connection, I landed 2 sparks headshots on a guy and he didn't take any damage

And fix the fkin matchmaking crytek, the entire lobby was 6 star

[mortal cove]

MMR is not the only factor for matchmaking

[warm anvil]

I have like a .9 KD and I'm seeing people with like 1.5 and higher

[mortal cove]

THere are soft parameters that determine if you can be matched with players that are technically higher MMR than you

[lofty sinew]

the game does not assume there is zero chance of you ever killing or beating anyone just because their stats are better.

[dense girder]

Team composition and even Win/Loss streaks also influence MM

[mortal cove]

Like if you had a really damn good day in Hunt the game will match you with higher MMR players

[lofty sinew]

there is also an element of "maybe they would prefer to play a match against a harder average than wait 30 minutes for a lobby"

[mortal cove]

In the most extreme cases a 4* can be matched with a 6*

[left orbit]

they did this yes

[lofty sinew]

in our region, one of my teamies is often 2. more common than not there are 6* teams in the lobby

broadly speaking it's a thing where they can't please everyone all the time no matter what they do, just due to the size of the playerbase

it's like the quality triangle. there is no way to drag the requirement into all 3 corners.

[left orbit]

exactly

however they could make the UI communicate better about what it’s doing

like

"expanding player search to wider MMR range…"

and recap that in the summary as well

that would at least eliminate the "WHY MMR BROKEN" questions and frustration

some games do it

[lofty sinew]

oh, there are a lot of things they could do better

they get brought up here and rehashed on the regular 😛

[mortal cove]

Time to put that shi in #game-ideas

[lofty sinew]

it wouldn't be so hard for them to prompt a team that had got selected for a matchmaking lobby if it was outside certain parameters so they could choose if they wanted to enter it or not.

"join higher MMR average lobby or continue to wait?"

[uneven flax]

dark tribute time

[left orbit]

hakshtually rihgt

[lofty sinew]

it can't hurt. mostly it seems like things like this just aren't even considered for whatever reason

[uneven flax]

oh shit my headset is drained

[uneven flax]

yep i had an idea like this as well

[lofty sinew]

i gave up on wireless devices ages ago. there isn't much more annoying than one deciding it's out of charge mid round.

I wanted to live in a wireless paradise. but I also wanted flying cars and hoverboards.

[left orbit]

i charge my mouse up to 75% and i let it go down to 50% before charging again

and the charge is quite fast

its cable is light enough that if i’m playing with it i’ll have it for like 15 minutes tops and it won’t be a hinderence

[mortal cove]

Now get Hifiman Susvara like me

[left orbit]

G502 X Lightspeed

[mortal cove]

[left orbit]

now that’s flexing

[lofty sinew]

hmm. vaguely tempting. i still need to properly repair my ath-ad2000x though

granted spending more money is a lot easier than fixing anything

[left orbit]

"throwing money at problem"

[mortal cove]

Indeed

[mortal cove]

I had a ADX5000 at one point, I actually really enjoyed that pair with a NOS dac

[lofty sinew]

I'm sure i've mentioned before i've vaguely wanted to try hifiman / planar magnetic cans for a while

[mortal cove]

I can send a picture with the custom cable I got for my Susvara

[lofty sinew]

i'll get bored enough to feel like purchasing new ones eventually I guess

[warm anvil]

I just went in solo with a sparks kit and solo extracted with a bounty xD

[mortal cove]

Meanwhile I just got a Bose QC Ultra Gen 2 for like 230€ Got a shit ton of amazon coupons stocked up

[warm anvil]

I'm not a great player, but I headshotted two and bodyshot one xD

[mortal cove]

I mean, Sparks good

[soft sleet]

is this an audiophile discussion or are you guys using hifiman and high end audio technica stuff just for hunt?

[warm anvil]

I definitely find it more consistent than the springfield

[mortal cove]

I use my Susvara exclusively for HUnt

[mortal cove]

It has the single highest dmg stat as far as normal rifles go

• Long ammo pen power

The only real downside is the 4s cycle time

But skill issue, learn quickswap

[warm anvil]

Skill issue for me, I keep forgetting Q is to quick swap to my secondary

[mortal cove]

Real quickswap

Learn to use the number keys on your keyboard

You haven't mastered quickswap unless your hand looks like it's dancing on the keyboard playing Doom Eternal And then translating that skill to Hunt

https://giphy.com/gifs/animation-loop-3o7aCTfyhYawdOXcFW

[left orbit]

#game-ideas message @uneven flax i think that due to the relatively low pop of Hunt, it’s not wise to let people chose either, as this might just be another way to fragment the player base, and has the potential to bring hunt match making to how it was before MMR change: MMR6 lords would click "gimme fast games" when MMR5 and lower cookies like me would… request stricter MMR… and these players would "never match". which again brings match making to how it was pre 2.0 essentially, which ends up being a very complex implementation of "nothing"

so, possibly, enforcing people of wider MMR range playing together if it just takes "too much time" regardless after a hardcoded timeout
so the choice would be "optimistic" rather than enforced maybe

[bronze coyote]

it's so seducing to write messages in the bot catcher channel.. idk.. maybe i'm crazy

[gray aurora]

ammo box op so much heavy melee dmg

[rain umbra]

Im new to the game what is this?

[uneven flax]

No it wont. People on fast queue can still match with strict queue blokes if they have the same MMR range

its the strict queue people that will get affected

but that's their choice.

[left orbit]

if "fast" match with "strict", it means they would have matched regardless of preference.
stricter will however not participate as much in the global player pool as much as they do right now

that’s what i mean by fragmenting

[uneven flax]

Exactly friend.

Yes

That's why they want strict, cause they dont want to be matched with stronger or weaker people.

You cannot appease both crowds if you do not give them the option.

3 stars people can quit the game if they're being matched with 6* sweats too.

If they dont want to feel fragmented, they choose Fast and be done with it

if they dont want unfair matches, they untoggle fast and be done with it

there is no other solution i dont think

[left orbit]

ok but then this automatically fragments the playerbase and the result is that matches will not form as rapidly for potentially everyone, including the fast takers

so back to pre 2.0

i’d love to have actual hunt data and run simulations 😄

could make up scenarios after all

skill level is generally that general "bell curve" stuff anyways

so 20k players on a bell curve MMR

[uneven flax]

Cause 6* fast takers cannot match with 3* strict takers. That is a good point, but you cannot have the cake and eat it too. That's just the unfortunate reality of middling playerbases

What we know for sure is 3* getting matched with 6* are incredibly undeniably unfair, leaning to making the game feel dead and broken.

[left orbit]

yeah

but then

[uneven flax]

I'd quit the game if i get matched with 6 star trios

TBH

[left orbit]

revert to what MMR was before 2.0

[uneven flax]

good thing asia has incredibly healthy population

my worst is 0.5 star - 1 star above. but that's not super common

ive never seen a 6 star trio in my life

cause im high 3* and high 4*

[left orbit]

i don’t have this issue too much anymore but last time it happened we had a 3KD player trolling on VoIP, i did quit the round indeed

and went to touch grass

because i knew we’d keep having them around

also having these 15k hours streamer trios shouting "time to dieee" and spitzering the entire building with 3 ammo boxes each

give us proper fight -...-

lemme shootamygun

(starts ADS, takes a headshot)

[uneven flax]

hunt really had this SBMM issue cause of lack of playerbase and being PVP heavy. Imagine if Hunt is like tarkov or arc where skill isnt fully accounted for in the MM

if only we had 50k-100k

[dry hawk]

bottom team was all 6 star i think

[uneven flax]

everyone should just play in asia

[left orbit]

everyone should play with 200ms ping

[uneven flax]

skill issue

[left orbit]

servers need to delay packets processing

[quiet pewter]

where can i report hacker?

[uneven flax]

the servers are located in my basement

[left orbit]

#customer-support

[quiet pewter]

i just encountered one

have his clip

i am trying to report on their website but the pop up display isnt working

[left orbit]

this?

[quiet pewter]

yes i did that

it just shows white blank with ono options

[lethal pulsar]

Ring around the rosy

[left orbit]

what’s your browser? if you have extensions fiddling with the pages like ad blockers and all, try disabling for the huntshowdown.com domain

[quiet pewter]

ok wait

[rain umbra]

Is the baseball bat just a one shot?

[left orbit]

these dudes have exactly zero awareness

[left orbit]

on full hp, only if you crack the head iirc, yes

[rain umbra]

I see

[warm anvil]

I wish the guys I faced in solo were that unaware lol

[lethal pulsar]

In there defense it was in the mines and there was 5 teams running around.
2v2v2v1v1
I wiped 3 teams got the bounty and ran from the last due I was out of nerco

[rain umbra]

Run into me and my friends and youll get the most free 1v3 of your life

[quiet pewter]

still not working it used to work like a week ago

[warm anvil]

Dude I'm like barely 1.0 K/D. No way.

[quiet pewter]

can i give u that guys profile?

[lethal pulsar]

I just got too 4 stat MMR im about 80 hours into the game

[rain umbra]

Me and my friends literally started the game yesterday

[lethal pulsar]

Yes

[rain umbra]

We have 0.7kds

[left orbit]

for me it’s working :/ i’m running Firefox with uBlock Origin and it’s all fine so idk

[lethal pulsar]

My KD is .62 it was .50 3 weeks ago 😆 🤣

[quiet pewter]

i have chrome

[left orbit]

try cleaning your history/cookies etc on the website or everything maybe

[warm anvil]

Mine was like 1.16 but it dropped to like .9 earlier today cause of a bad game streak

[rain umbra]

I just have very bad aim

As you can see

[warm anvil]

The pocket springfield is so dumpy ngl

[left orbit]

i’m afraid i won’t be doing anything with it, and reporting from my account would just be very confusing because crytek won’t be able to match the suspected player and the actual game it happened :/

[lethal pulsar]

This is my set up for poor aim.
This gun stays in sigh after shooting without the perk. Plus hard to miss with a bat

[quiet pewter]

ive already reported on steam n in game but i dont trust they will anything in game report

[warm anvil]

Good ol officer carbine... wish I made that thing work

I can tap heads with a Sparks or Marathon but not that thing

[lethal pulsar]

I love it so much dude

[rain umbra]

I was using this

[warm anvil]

I also just prestiged today (first time) so I don't have it anymore

[rain umbra]

My only somewhat mid clip

[lethal pulsar]

Fair its kinda early on but still need to use the other ones to get it

[lethal pulsar]

You where saying that wa like 2 hours into learning the game. So pretty freaking good

[rain umbra]

It was yeah

[lethal pulsar]

Im 80 hrs in and just picking the game up myself

There's alot to learn

[rain umbra]

This is me mostly

I just put on a sens and im not gonna change it and just play on it

Idk what i should do to work on my aim tho

[lethal pulsar]

My best suggestion would be test EVERY gun. Find the one that works for you.

[lethal pulsar]

Scopes

[rain umbra]

My issue with that is id rather get used to my sensitivity and all that by just playing with the same guns until I get it down

[lethal pulsar]

I camt use iron sights in this game in need a scope or a shotgun 😆

[rain umbra]

Irons take up a good amount of centre screen tbh

I despise how much sway is on scopes tho

I also hate being very zoomed in

[lethal pulsar]

I just have a hard time telling bush wookie from bush from far away gun fights without a scope

So many wookies out there

[rain umbra]

I mean i can't even see people in bushes

Even when im looking at them

[rain umbra]

And then obviously i just don't see this

[lethal pulsar]

Ya I was watching that earlier

[rain umbra]

Like my friend said he could see the barrel of his gun when he peaked

But I couldnt see shit

[lethal pulsar]

There is a setting where you can put your gun away till you aim. I recommend learning to play that way. I feel your gun blocked your view

[left orbit]

steam will likely not do anything. in-game, more. but best through website with video so they can actualy judge. maybe retry later

[uneven flax]

yes that helps also

in Hunter mode just hold quick swap

it also prevents your gun from clipping walls and corners

ive totally killed people cause their guns are showing

[rain umbra]

Too low rank

Cant use it yet

[rain umbra]

Pulls my gun out slower doesnt it?

[uneven flax]

uh no it lowers down your gun

@left orbit

[empty prism]

Can’t you just hold down Q to lower your weapon in gunslinger mode?

[left orbit]

DANG

[lone viper]

undervolting on msi afterburner, anyone here to help me? I think it'll take a minute or 2

[uneven flax]

i bought and sold shit to get this number

like money tetris

[left orbit]

i figured 😄

[worn oak]

Coffee Time! ☕

https://tenor.com/view/clubbing-coop-john-hamm-gif-6386682120420624190

[rain umbra]

Im on console

[lethal pulsar]

I use Hunter mode. Gun stays down. I tap left trigger 1 tap gun stays up till I tap it again.

Im really good about put my gun down tho also.

[lethal pulsar]

Shoulder aim Input. Under setting standard is "Hold" switch it to toggle.
Then you tap left trigger to put you gun up and down

[weary kernel]

P2w skins are annoying as hell. Everyone now is black.

[lethal pulsar]

Iv never spent 1 dollar in hunt and have a hand fun of legendary hunters. I got the Plague Doctor and she's blacked out.
If you play enough and grind your missions you get free blood bonds

[hollow crescent]

you do realize that there are free hunters that are also fully black, right?

[uneven flax]

The only real pay to win is cain, reptilian and scarecrow

[lime mural]

How can I unlock the Frag arrow?

[glossy escarp]

It's scars ammo, you can only find it inside a match

[lime mural]

Ok

[glossy escarp]

It's like dum dum ammo for example for centenial, you cannot buy it, only find it

[grave rose]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-south-park-loser-you-suck-angry-gif-21522247

[lime mural]

Blame the game not the player

[empty prism]

No clue what the keybind is on console, but all my newbie friends I invite prefer gunslinger mode over hunter mode and they do extremely well. IMO just stick with whatever you feel more comfortable with.

[rain umbra]

Im on gunslinger atm

[hollow crescent]

if you're curious you can try hunter out for a while

I prefer hunter because I get to have control over every movement my hunter makes, plus having your gun down by default does make for a cleaner screen and therefore you can see more

[lethal pulsar]

I hate i cant buy dum dum round for my officer carbine

[hollow crescent]

but ppl who are used to traditional shooters will find the controls scheme awkward to use

[lethal pulsar]

But im happy when I find me dum dum in the wild

[glossy escarp]

I mean, check hunting and watch towers, lately I found dum dum 95% of my games in either

[round marlin]

if you want a replacement u can either go waxed frag charge for bomblance or bomb spear

[lime mural]

Does the waxed frag stick to the enemy when hit or does it just fall to the ground?

[lethal pulsar]

It falls to the ground if you want it to stick to someone.
Bomb lance like he said or spike frags I thing is the name or sticky frag something like that

[round marlin]

it doesnt

cuz its a blunt end projectile

the bomb harpoon does

but i dont think its choke immune

or water immune

[icy bay]

Chkono explosiv stiks on hit

[round marlin]

i recommend running steel balls with it

waxed with steel balls

[quick nest]

There should be a title for that

Waxed steel balls

[sick bramble]

crytek should rename them to balls of steel for the meme factor

[scenic plinth]

i prefer shaving my steel balls rather than waxing

gets that mirror finish

[sick bramble]

[flint jetty]

Man I've been playing solo opposing duos and it's pretty fun

A lil cutthroat tho

[spark plaza]

amogus

[mighty dawn]

im barely brave enough for soul survivor, i couldn't see myself soloing against teams

[flint jetty]

In vs duo it ain't bad because you go against alot of other solos

Tho everyone's sneaky

[mighty dawn]

yeah that makes sense. i need to learn how to be sneaky, i am so noisy dude

[wooden ember]

nahh

Keep being loud af and fight will come to u

[mighty dawn]

that's been the strat so far lol

idk i just started playing this like two weeks ago but it's so fun

[wooden ember]

sick

enjoy it

It wont get better

[flint jetty]

Welcome!

I just kinda play this game like a hunting game sometimes ngl just waiting for the right time stalking the Scout towers

But I'm a filthy sneak

[wooden ember]

lately I also started playing sniper w sneaky playstyle its more fun than I imagined

[flint jetty]

Yeah so far my fave combo is a silenced Maynard or Springfield with a pax

[wooden ember]

I bring a dolch for close fights

[hot dune]

I thought that too until I checked kill logs xD 3 kills, one hunter!! 🤣 He was barely close enough to get splashed

[formal dome]

Hunt and blood borne collab ain’t never happening

It would be sick though

Blade of mercy skin for cavalry saber

Maybe like saw cleaver for machete

And hunter skins of course

The vibe of both games is just so similar it could definitely work imo

[wooden ember]

https://tenor.com/view/slave-knight-gael-bloodborne-pc-dark-souls-gif-27599313

[uneven flax]

hunt and fortnite collab when

[crystal bay]

never

[raven totem]

Yall talking about collaborations, I'm wondering how many events we have left

I wonder how crytek will go about the new game and hunt at the same time

[iron hornet]

Looted a dark dynamite satchel at the spider lair today and decided to try out the "hide-it-in-an-exploded-egg"-strategy without taking it seriously. Ended up wiping the entire bounty team. lol

Can confirm that it still works. No hitmarkers though and the kills don't count for you.

[crystal bay]

Dang

Good meme, but tragic it doesn't count for you

makes sense though

[uneven flax]

because the spiders trigger it not you?

the exploded egg regenerates?

[iron hornet]

Yes. The egg regrows and when it explodes it detonates the satchel.

[crystal bay]

Oh yeah it makes sense

but just unfortunate

[iron hornet]

I guess, the spiders' KD went up. 😄

[raven totem]

All the more reason to unscarce explosive bolt

[crystal bay]

Did we get stats on how many kills the spiders got after the Bileweaver event?

[crystal bay]

rip

[uneven flax]

diabolical

[sharp flare]

they killed me like 2 times in the last couple weeks due to me having like 1 bar or i was fighting someone

i havent died to an exploding egg though

[left orbit]

damn bro must have been 1hp

[sharp flare]

i gotta start taking satchels more. i take alerts all the time

[trail flare]

Holaasa

[scenic plinth]

BEHOLD, A PALEBLOOD SKY

[wooden ember]

60fps?

[scenic plinth]

60 fps, if performance permits

[uneven flax]

ree piracy

not updating bloodborne and rdr2 60 fps is crazy to me

[cedar shuttle]

Hunt does Taketh a lot for my teammate and myself. I wish the times back where it was all giveth

[ruby plaza]

Guys

This bs happened

Couldn't get bounty

It was inside the stairs

Not under

Inside

Counld\t get it

Tried al angles

[empty eagle]

bugged

its pretty rare

#bug-reports-pc

[sharp flare]

happend to me as well a while back and we were fighting another team and i voiped. hey guys the bounty is stuck in the floor. we were the last 2 teams so we went around the map and did stuff thats how i got my sledge hammer kill

other bounty had left so nothing really to fight for

[opal dawn]

Oh yeah, delaney is in here, think I might've seen homereel too. Smaller streamers sure but when people ask if someone's here Im just assuming they mean the more known ones

[uneven flax]

whityyy is insane at this game too. man what i wouldnt give to be as good as them

[hot dune]

Just gotta be jobless, single, and have rich parents. You can do it

[uneven flax]

@hot dune i can only sacrifice your life for this deal

[opal dawn]

As a mediator I approve

[hot dune]

My life is only worth a bag of doritoes, half full of air

[opal dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-17755263804686291502

[hot dune]

I remember that 16 k/d player comptonsmurf. I wonder what he sacrificed

[opal dawn]

yooo wtf

[hot dune]

Thats what Im sayinnnn it was nuts. He was really really good but socially awkward lol

Back when leaderboards was a thing, he had two accounts on top. I did kill him once so I marked that as a win

[opal dawn]

There were some nasty people on that one

[hot dune]

I was #36 so I treated it like espada numbers from the anime bleach lol

[opal dawn]

Nice!

[hot dune]

I made the mistake of console sharing with a toxic friend 😆 you can guess what came of that

[opal dawn]

Daaaamn

I have a hunch

[hot dune]

He said too much in messages lol. Apex was his downfall (and mine)

[uneven flax]

@opal dawn all the penny pinching paying off

[crystal bay]

Buy the bdage

badge*

[hot dune]

The badge will show that he recently went broke xD

[left orbit]

now you buy the badge

you’ve got PLEEEENTY of money still left after

[left orbit]

nah, just display only the badge, no other stat, pass your profile private, and the illusion can be perfect

like

you’ve had 15 mil forever

just spent 1 mil on the badge

and resumed prestiging from 1 to 2 recently

[lone viper]

anyone here that plays space marine 2 as well? need for fun

[hot dune]

😎 "1 mil, pocket change to me but life changing for the peasants"

[opal dawn]

AYYYY

[uneven flax]

no

[left orbit]

https://giphy.com/gifs/people-hd-gifsremastered-10Jpr9KSaXLchW

https://giphy.com/gifs/pTQUOfSmjo2hG

https://giphy.com/gifs/omaze-chris-pratt-dinosaurs-3o7WTxQ7RFErPLfOqk

[opal dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-it-kenneth-parcell-30rock-please-dont-please-no-gif-21894207

Kalima | Always Changin' Names

[left orbit]

absofookinly

[opal dawn]

Time to spread pro-kalima propaganda

[left orbit]

[opal dawn]

Guess you have to spend 1 mill on that badge now mr potato

[uneven flax]

entire map ripe for the pcikin

[opal dawn]

Cashmaxxing

[uneven flax]

a couple thousand aint plenty!

imagine the inevitable 100-game losing streak

Reaching milly might not have been good for my mental heath

now i think i only have 10k

[left orbit]

i had to restart with 300 bruh

it was ez

now i’m back at 100k

not even playing that mooch

[mortal cove]

I play too much Lebel Marksman Spitzer + high tier 2-slot + high tier consumables to make that kind of profit during a prestige

[uneven flax]

I'll buy milly badge at 2 million

👍

[crystal bay]

Buy two of them

[paper anvil]

bro some players hate having fun

this mf came to us after we killed a team and camped us with maynard silenced

and hv ammo

[uneven flax]

couldnt hit the broad side of the barn with the world trade center on my sights, switched to spitfire and never missed a shot

ugh i hate vetterli

[paper anvil]

vetterli is goated

[storm pilot]

.

[wet stirrup]

"git gud" lol

[uneven flax]

lick my toes!

[opal dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tarantino-deal-with-it-gif-17372100959799108025

[wet stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[wicked fox]

US West for PC needs some maintenance or maybe a restart. I’m rubberbanding and disconnecting frequently. 🛜

[fallow topaz]

I kicked your router /s

[round marlin]

sparks dual wield

i have an idea

[spice sundial]

lobotomy

cyclone and sparks dual wield

[round marlin]

double bomb launcher wax

[spice sundial]

make bomb lance a tool

[urban steppe]

sparks quad wield you mean
2 sets of dual sparks pistols

[round marlin]

nerf quadrringer too

its too broken

[round marlin]

i once saw someone run quad dolch

[spice sundial]

=theres some people that use quadringer unironcally

[urban steppe]

loool

[opal dawn]

Hey now that's a rich boi meme loadout

Me and my bud run that from time to time

[ornate lagoon]

I much prefer the Avtomat for rich memeing

[pallid crater]

Oops

happens to the best of us

[whole furnace]

I used to run that a lot whenever I was reaching the end of a prestige to splurge my money, but then Crytek buffed the dolches and made dualie dolches much better, so I stopped doing that lol.

[fallow topaz]

Oooph. Bad vibes in Louisiana

Elephant guns for everyone!

[pallid crater]

Damn this game can look good. Jesse buchana veteranm out there in the bushes tho

[whole furnace]

100%

[pallid crater]

hnng

pic was taken before i saw the bush pull out a rifle

10/10 would do again

[round marlin]

mosin avtomat but devil card hipfire only

what do you think

[pallid crater]

thats nasty pairing and i love it lmao

[whole furnace]

Never cared for running avto, mostly bc when I was doing prestige grind I never had the avto unlocked bc I never run Mosin lol

Again, I ran dual dolch because it was not really that good for the longest time.

And stopped when it actually became viable

[opal dawn]

Ye we won that match running quad dolches, I thought it'd be worse than it actually was

[whole furnace]

Tho old dolches was wild on a different level

[opal dawn]

Now it's quad bheims but that's not expensive enough to be a truly meme loadout

[whole furnace]

Tho still had this one run immortalized lol

[mortal cove]

I wish the game used less screenspace effects, it‘s the main issue with it‘s graphical presentation

I know Crytek does it for performance

But how I wish there was a mode where the Conetracing and such was done in world space and HW accelerated through DXR

[unique trail]

Hunt Showdown 1986

[paper anvil]

my Name is Hunt

[faint apex]

John Hunt?

[mortal cove]

He‘s called John Victor

He‘s the Prestige 100 reward

[whole furnace]

In what way does Crytek use Screenspace effects in Hunt?

[mortal cove]

almost everything in the game is screenspace

Shadows, Global Illumination, AO, reflections, it‘s all done via screenspace

And the stuff that isn‘t screenspace is done via temporally accumulated probe based cubemaps from what I can tell (like the gun reflections)

[whole furnace]

Ah oki oki.
Yeee, I dunno what part of it that makes it fucky, but the lighting ever since 2.0 have been awful imo

(in that sweaty, "everything is washed out and hard spot" way)

[mortal cove]

Well, part of it is that Crytek min-maxed the internal resolution of most effects to maintain the game‘s high performance

The other part is screenspace artifacts

[dreamy cave]

So thats means im more of a cause I ran at him when they had full health

[mortal cove]

it‘s a big advantage of a modern deferred renderer, you can run the geometry at full res as an example and run your AO at quarter res and use temporal accumulation to clean up the image afterwards. @whole furnace

You get the performance cost of running the AO at 1080p on a 4K image

And use temporal accumulation to clean up the result

[whole furnace]

mhm mhm
So you think Crytek run to run it this way due to Hunt still running on an old legacy build of the Cryengine or?

[mortal cove]

No, this is just modern graphics rendering

„native“ as a concept where you run every effect per pixel has been dead for a long time

[worn oak]

No it's not. (Or it is.)

[mortal cove]

Quite frankly would also be wasteful performance wise

[whole furnace]

Now I think of it, Hunt doens't compile shaders ever.

[mortal cove]

Doom 2016 as an example has such extremely high performance because it does so many effects at fractions of the output resolution

Same for RDR2

Though RDR2 has an option in the graphics settings to run the volumetrics at full res

Which obv cripples performance

[mortal cove]

It does :p

[worn oak]

Borderland 4.

[fathom shale]

Pretty sure Hunt's shader compilation just happens in the background yeah

[whole furnace]

Derp wrong wording, more that I have never had to wait for it

on boot up

[mortal cove]

The big initial shader pre-compile happens during the start-up screen

When you notice after a driver update that the start-up screen takes a big longer than usual

That's when the large portion of the shader pre-compile happens

And then it just happens in the background in parallel

And to avoid stutters, Crytek instead opted to just not render a shader or asset until it is fully compiled @whole furnace

If you have ever seen a weapon taking a bit to pop up, that's the shader compilation at work in realtime

[whole furnace]

Can't say I have in recent memory, in my own game that is, seen it online.

[unique trail]

Say that to my face I dare you

[mortal cove]

Making AVX2 mandatory also drastically decreases shader compilation times

[whole furnace]

Did have this happen, this event tho lol

[crystal bay]

That's just the yellow brick road hunt equivalent

I wonder where it goes

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-brass-weapon-fight-punch-gif-11683650

[past locust]

winchester 1895 when

[urban steppe]

Bless that solo who self res'd last match

I was 995/1000 damage on the carbine quest

his revival and subsequent gave me enough damage

to finish that quest

[past locust]

when they add the winchester 1895 i’m gonna do some freaky stuff

[urban steppe]

it let my team to extract last time

which was how I found that visual bug

😹

no joke, the extract was right around the corner

[unique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/showtime-dice-dice-gifs-andrew-dice-clay-brass-knuckles-gif-10064197

[urban steppe]

and all 3 of us just noticed it

[whole furnace]

With the Mako being a thing, there is a slim chance we gonna get a Winnie 1895.

[crystal bay]

A highlighted path to extract sounds pretty fun

a bayou GPS

[past locust]

i need it

[urban steppe]

😼

[past locust]

i really want the russian export version so it would be a stripper clip fed repeater for maximum weirdness

[worn oak]

Coffee Time. ☕ 🍪
(This one is special)

https://tenor.com/view/clubbing-coop-john-hamm-gif-6386682120420624190

[crystal bay]

Coffee time is always special

But i'm glad this one was extra special

[upbeat lark]

oh my

guess the bayou will be burning quite regurally from now on

[worn oak]

Ah thank you so much Snowy. When i'm in here, in my home, it's extra special.☕

[whole furnace]

Ofc, the US found Oil in Gulch and sending in the military

Lore accurate

[upbeat lark]

historical acurate

actually im not sure

i dont study us history

[proven aurora]

Im so ok with this but I really really would love to see night time fire make a comeback. Also serpent moon!

[upbeat lark]

i wanna experience that

[fallow chasm]

As long as inferno friday doesn't return when you can ONLY play inferno all day long...

[proven aurora]

It was so good.

[upbeat lark]

i started playing well after the first inferno event went away

[olive rune]

i just saw that ppl think the bp was completed too fast, someone make this make sense to me bc how is this not pure brainrot

[proven aurora]

There was complaints about visibility and sound being a too strong combo but man. There was something so cool being at the stream near arden looking towards north and seeing silhouettes of people running along the wall of flames. Amazing!

[whole furnace]

Interesting

[crystal bay]

Some people want something to grind towards continuously

Overall BP being completable by most people is good though

[olive rune]

jesus christ i cannt belive thse people can vote

[crystal bay]

and was also heavy community feedback

[shell geode]

I hate the mindset that you always need something to grind for tbh

[olive rune]

they dont know whats good for them

[crystal bay]

I mean I enjoy grinding towards things

Progress is fun

it just depends on what

Right now I just enjoy playing Hunt to play Hunt

[proven aurora]

I wont lie, being prestige 100 the only thing I can grind now is BP and I guess the 1mill token. So a bit longer of a BP would be nice.

[shell geode]

but like for me the problem is that you have people who think games are in a bad state if you don't have something to grind for

[crystal bay]

That is fair

[shell geode]

I've become really soured on live service stuff after getting really into fromsoft games this past year

[lusty echo]

A heartfelt fuck you to everyone who whined about All Ears. It was fun.

[olive rune]

YOU CAN JUST PLAY THE GAME

[wheat pilot]

progress is fun but if im spending real money on a bp I appreciate being able to get the rewards quite easily ngl 😭

[shell geode]

like if the only reason you boot up a game is to grind stuff, play a different game

[dense girder]

Depends on how long/hard it is. Grind gives you purpose, and at least for me, If I have nothing to grind for in a game anymore, I feel less incentive to play said game.

[shell geode]

play the game bc you have fun playing it!

[crystal bay]

Exactly, I'd agree that making it easier so more people can complete it is good

[shell geode]

but like at that point, just play something else

[jaunty patio]

Yes, that's what 'less incentive to play' means

[proven aurora]

I dont even think its that? I love playing the game but I also love having a hill to climb. Grinds can be enjoyable and an incentive l.

[shell geode]

if the base game is not enough for you to be satisfied while playing, find something else

[dense girder]

Idk, I have fun grinding.

[shell geode]

live service constant content grinds to keep people constantly logging on and playing are so frustrating

[fallow chasm]

that's the goal of live service lol

[ornate lagoon]

I think a datapoint they might not be taking into account is you get a decent amount of season points for just slapping the map in the tower which is part of why it went faster this go around.

[dense girder]

Fun also comes from unlocking things, getting achievements, etc. etc. though. It's part of having fun.

[paper anvil]

man why don't tags count for weapon progression and only kills

[proven aurora]

Yeah its to feed you the base game and be able to continue to have the game grow. I dont think having things to grind as achievements is a crime lol

[whole furnace]

I am old, I am used to most game be released and you got what you got unless you were lucky a expansion were released 1-2 years later.
Live service industry have been a major brain rot for people and the case of perpetual hype cycles.

People still asking for more weapons in a game like Hunt, even tho it have triple the amount of guns a game of old would have.

[shell geode]

it's really crazy looking back on how mindsets have shifted on things

[fallow chasm]

ye, having something to actually do and gain while playing and having fun is good

[hazy garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1000161627011825786/1505571255347318865/speechmemified_dsadasdasdsaasd.gif

[shell geode]

overwatch is a big example for me just due to me having played since 2017 and seeing the difference in content release stuff

it used to be an event every like four or so months and that was the only time you'd get new skins. people complained abt the events being recycled, but the pacing or amount of rewards weren't something that bothered people at the time

now if you go a week without something new people foam at the mouths

[hazy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/quotation-gif-24440205

[whole furnace]

He is

Bless

[dense girder]

Well peopl'es attention spans have also been decimated lol

[shell geode]

I mean it's live service stuff

constant battle passes and events made to keep people logging on and grinding your game

I mean you can even see how it's hit hunt with events being so frequent and longrunning now lol

like not all grinding is bad, but this came up due to discussion on how some people think completing the BP is too easy

[fallow topaz]

What's interesting is I've heard the bubble for live service has been shaky. So I wonder if the quality will spike once live service isn't the new hotness.

[shell geode]

yeah, too many people are trying to get a slice of the live service pie

[fallow topaz]

I think it's at a pretty reasonable pace if you aren't playing all the time.

[shell geode]

yeah the BP's pace is fine rn

[fallow topaz]

I'm curious if this lets them get back to the story/ pushing the art style more

[shell geode]

I'm subbed to justin groot (former OW narrative designer, then he moved to supervive rip, and now he's on apex) substack and he had an article awhile back on the live service boom and where he thinks things are going now

and he thinks companies are going to start moving more towards singleplayer games now that so many live service projects are falling apart

[fallow chasm]

every live service is always a high risk high reward project
if it doesn't stick big money down the drain
if it does, constant big revenue for years

the chance to be a big live service might be low but the payout is insane, that's why companies keep doing it

[shell geode]

I'd like to see hunt return more towards narrative

[whole furnace]

They are just more and more shifting towards gacha, people like to pretend to be up in arms about it.
But more and more gacha games are also getting popular by the western market.

[visual quail]

Chat: 64% of the playerbase enjoyed the scout tower revealing the wild target. Devs: let’s take that away. W dev team 😭

[shell geode]

it's possible the wild target reveal thing will still be there, they said that the map is gonna be in different locations so they probs have something cool cooking

[fallow topaz]

Isn't gatcha a live service subgenre?

[dense girder]

They said it's not gonna reveal the location anymore.

[shell geode]

ah gotcha

[visual quail]

They said it won’t ☠️

[dense girder]

Which I find is a good change

[shell geode]

I was just looking at the screenshot mccree sent lol I haven't read the actual article

which was just them saying that the tower was removed but the map is gonna be in a new place

[dense girder]

Or at least, make it so the precise location isn't revelead, but you have a circle that shows the rough location.

[visual quail]

It’s just that it goes against the majority of the player bases wants

[fallow topaz]

That's a better setup. Makes sense to me

[shell geode]

I think it's interesting that they're going to spawn close to boss lairs

sounds like it's a cool way to get a clue as to the boss's location outside of the normal.... well, clues lol

[dense girder]

Splitting the player base isn't so great, if almost half of the players disliked it. Also, players often want things that aren't the best for the game.

[whole furnace]

It is a live service, it is just that as gamers becomes less happy about live service, the more "unfair" and predatory the monetisation gonna get as then you can kinda just live of whales and such.

[visual quail]

64 is almost 2/3 of the playerbase.

[dense girder]

Still a considerable amount that disliked it.

[fallow topaz]

Does the hunt model support whales? I guess I'm just confused

[visual quail]

Yes it does. There are a lot of cosmetics ppl can buy

[fallow topaz]

I suppose. I thought part of it was due to the gambling aspect you get dudes spending paychecks for sexy jpegs

[visual quail]

Tbf if they make it 3, it’ll still be hard to read. I don’t believe it’ll be that defining

[ornate lagoon]

I like using the different hunting methods to find the wild targets, just skipping that felt meh especially if I’m already trying to go for a scout map to find exits and plan.

[hollow seal]

Might be a hot take but I think Hunt does pretty good with MTX compared to most games with them

[shell geode]

it might not be that defining but it still is a cool way to convey boss information to players

yeah hunt's microtransactions aren't too bad

[dense girder]

Pretty sane take

[shell geode]

I think they've been going in a worse direction recently with the big increase in stuff, but it's infinitely better than shit like lootboxes

[fallow topaz]

Part of it is money doesn't translate to effecting gameplay as much

[shell geode]

imo the absolute worst microtransaction system in the live service shooter genre is apex

[fallow topaz]

Some skins can be sneakier but it's not the most drastic

[remote hound]

Hey - I'm looking for someone who has completed the Convalescent Home achievement - the one where you need to retire 25 hunters - is anyone online?

[visual quail]

Sup?

[shell geode]

lootboxes, even more expensive event lootboxes, gambling events, battle passes, expensive shop skins, and I think now there's another sort of heirloom currency you can buy

[fallow topaz]

Oh Lord

[shell geode]

apex's microtransaction setup is INSANE

[fallow topaz]

I guess I'll be glad at most we have those new sigils

[remote hound]

Can U add me to friends and tankjs to this copare those achivments?

I will see how many I need to retire more

[visual quail]

Uhhh, wdym? Cant you just view achievement progress on your own profile?

[fringe dirge]

I do apreciate the regional pricing on the hunt microtransactions

[shell geode]

yeah regional pricing is nice

[fringe dirge]

Its the least predatory i have seen

[remote hound]

No - its secret anless U make it

[fallow topaz]

The in game tracker fixes this

[fallow topaz]

Under Career you can see how many hunters youve maxed. And unless you don't retire all of them immediately, you got a number.

[remote hound]

Nope - they mostly just... die 😉

[whole furnace]

Not really, like there is a lot for people to buy, but the model is not built around hooking people into whale spending.

[spark plaza]

amogus

[uneven flax]

wtf noooo....

[whole furnace]

[uneven flax]

hidden extracts are ass

https://tenor.com/view/cat-licking-cat-with-tongue-cat-licking-sigma-cat-gif-15496836329545003578

[fallow topaz]

If only there was a... Tower...

Like a place to get that info

[whole furnace]

Well they will not be there next event

[fallow topaz]

I wonder how they'd do it... Maybe hiding and marking it in set already existing big towers.

[whole furnace]

I mean

you can just read it?

[past locust]

i like hidden extracts for making camping require some more effort

but i don’t like it for people just trying to get exp and then leave for hunter perks

bc then it’s annoying

[strong moon]

you know what they should add

[past locust]

i also don’t like the wild targets being removed , they are annoying to look for without the map telling me

[strong moon]

a decadent riverboat gambler legendary hunter

and a Clockwork Turkman who may just be some poor bastard encased in metal, or maybe it's a robot

[past locust]

it made it a good start to rush to the tower rush down the wild targets and extract

[wooden ember]

not rly

[uneven flax]

Me no like

[lusty echo]

...is that not more or less Hayalî?

[strong moon]

no, Hayali is based off a traditional puppet show

the clockwork turkman was a famous hoax about a chess playing machine

[fallow arch]

Arguably more scaramuccia imo

[lusty echo]

Crytek loves to cater to the smallest demo. Complain and they'll change it.

[strong moon]

and became a colloquial reference to basically early steampunk robots

[lusty echo]

Fair.

[fallow arch]

I love how the game has like 4 versions of the phantom of the Opera

That isn't sarcasm I really like that

[fickle marten]

prob the first good thing they’ve done after not giving us 15 man lobbies (god forbid an extra team be thrown into the mix)

[lusty echo]

Yeah, I'm aware. Just figured they might consider it "close enough" and move on. 🤷‍♂️

[fallow arch]

And when you add samoa joe into the mix

[lusty echo]

I don't dislike your pitches.

[past locust]

i’m very conflicted on many changes

[paper anvil]

what did all ears trait even do,i forgot

[past locust]

sometimes i want pvp sometimes i want pure pve so i can get money and traits for pvp

[fallow arch]

Amplified sound

[paper anvil]

oh i remember now

[lusty echo]

I miss Pacts and actual lore.

And generators. And lamps. And it being darker.

[fickle marten]

my chance of seeing the bounty team extract during my three-team fight drastic go up

[paper anvil]

people complaining it's too op

[lusty echo]

Yeah, it was around for a week or two.

When they pulled it, I essentially stopped caring about the event.

Wasn't OP, just Crytek catering to babies as usual.

[past locust]

I’ll pve on OCE servers later and report back if i’m being shot at by ruffians or not

[lusty echo]

Nerfing skins, bringing back skins, nerfing traits, blah blah blah

[past locust]

OCE is pve server and if you shoot on it you deserve to be told not to do that

[fickle marten]

it was pretty strong but it probably could have just had some numbers tweaked and just have been less strong

[lusty echo]

Yep.

[paper anvil]

as someone who doesn't use headphones,i didn't even really use it much

[lusty echo]

And it wasn't THAT bad.

[wind hare]

Ok, so can someone please explain to me how they can say "Survey results show that 46% of players felt the Battle Pass progression speed was fast." and yet the Infographic they provide along with that very clearly shows that 46% actually felt it was just right? Are they purposefully misinforming us thinking we won't notice?

[uneven flax]

Hidden extracts are painful when most fights could happen on towers plus when youre spawned away from towers and banishing boss

It’s hard to plan your route when you don’t know where the bounty team could go

Plus I farm sometimes and hidden extracts make it difficult