hunt-general

[light helm]

what a dream

[random nimbus]

More fighting, but not necessarily more fights. If everyone is ratting around bounty team that doesn't dare push out because there's 4 teams around them, then it's all reliant on the rats fighting each other.

And nobody wants to start the first fight because you just get 3rd partied by everyone else

[lofty parrot]

Did someone say peew peew? ❤️ xD

[granite blade]

ah yes a dream to be stuck in the middle of 3 different teams that absolutely refuse to shoot eachother because your team is in the best spot for them to get easy kills first since everyone else is already focusing them.

[random nimbus]

The moment someone dies, it's a swarm to pressure that team/area

I can't remember how many times I've scanned and seen the whole damn lobby surrounding my boss compound but nobody is shooting

And that's in trios

Everyone is trying to avoid the other rat ambushes while trying to keep an eye on bounty team

[granite blade]

its like there is a chart of who is in the worst spot and when you are in the middle of a triangle of 3 different teams, your team is at the top of the disadvantage chart since you literally cant leave without exposing to 2 different teams. everyone notices this and chooses to just abstain from fighting eachother and instead just holds your team.

Hunt: Stalematedown

[random nimbus]

Sometimes the outside teams aren't even ratting either. They're just trying not to get caught in the middle

You gotta keep account of so many players that focusing on one group lets another rotate and sandwich you

[whole furnace]

That was the worst part of single bounty in trios.
Especially if you had a backdoor extract.
Everyone is force to stay close and everyone knows there is a full lobby all around the compound.

[random nimbus]

Especially if you're down a person

[light helm]

Where u found this 3 teams, where this e sport in usual game. even if this true, it sounds like u all get used to incorrect hunt at all. For now, in 4-5 stars u press shift until boss and boringly take it. Was a bit fun in time with reviving bolts, okay. Cancelled. But hunt with all his quality cant give me action. How can be fair 12 ppl for solo and 12 ppl for 3's? unbelievable that existed to this moment

[whole furnace]

I just play according to my lobby, 6 star, where if I make a missplay I'll get domed instantly lol

[light helm]

6 star played too

[whole furnace]

There is no solo only lobby

[mild flower]

what region

[light helm]

Not much difference with 5

Eu

[random nimbus]

We used to have solo que a long time ago. It was infested with rats

[light helm]

west

[opal dawn]

EU is a ratfest in duos what are you talking about

[mild flower]

soul survivor..

[whole furnace]

Once again, almost like when you can get 3rd, 4th, 5th partied, there is little incentive to make a move first! 👁️👄👁️

[light helm]

K enough talk. anyway glad for decision from crytek

[lofty parrot]

Have such matches pretty often as solo
Lately I had some very funny matches there where I had a consta bow and ammo box with me. I Made my building with the bounty an spicky iron fortress and wrote in the chat I will leave the 2nd bounty to whoever is left.
2 Ppl tried to get inside but I killed them and then the whole lobby fought eachother around me xD
I was the nrarrator for them and told everyone where someone died xD

[random nimbus]

I have less experience with that, but when I did play it, there was a lot of players of mixed mmr that I didn't know who actually knew what they were doing lol

[granite blade]

an example of 1 team trying to play the game and getting absolutely punished for it... how unfortunate

[whole furnace]

I love this clip

[random nimbus]

Being the first team to act is usually a bad idea

[lofty parrot]

Not by design but they happen

[random nimbus]

You just get assjammed

[granite blade]

and then another team tries to start playing the game now that they heard deat- oop, now one of them just got shot in the back and are down a player... its so bad

[whole furnace]

tru tru

[granite blade]

really does seem like everyone wants everyone else to start playing the game first before they start... the problem is that then they become part of the problem :v

[lofty parrot]

What was I suppossed to do? 😄
Running out alone vs several teams around me? xD Nahhh
But hey this was more fun, then getting rushed by 6 Shottys

[random nimbus]

I do think it's funny seeing the different ways people camp in different mmr

[alpine crown]

Hey guys, bringing you another song based on the Hunt: Showdown 1896 DLC - Cry of the Caged Bird. I think this one turned out great. https://youtu.be/gYTsuXaMEdg?si=j9lpPKIinLfrDHT3

[granite blade]

i mean you are solo and what you did is just what solos do, i more meant those outside that started dying left and right

[random nimbus]

Lower mmr players are too scared to act because they aren't confident in themselves. Higher mmr players are scared of getting domed by other crackheads

[granite blade]

lower mmr players dont understand what its like to get domed through 8 walls just because you hit your interact key on a ladder

[tall canopy]

AI?

[lofty parrot]

Imagine we would have an anti camp mechanic xD
like u get attacked by flies when u dont move 10m away from ur position every 3-5 minutes 😄

[whole furnace]

AI

[turbid dock]

Around 4-5 stars, people are overconfident, and nobody is afraid of getting domed. Might be the sweet spot of hunt fun?

[random nimbus]

Or popped through the wall because you're carrying a token and they wallbang you based on the lightning bolt

[tall canopy]

EW

[granite blade]

would be interesting... sadly crytek said they dont want to limit playstyles so .-.

[opal dawn]

I wonder what that new gun is gonna be

[alpine crown]

Yes, I'm making some music as a hobby, I'm learning, and some of it turns out pretty good.

[random nimbus]

I desperately miss the old pen damages, but being on the receiving end of bullets missing you by inches because someone heard you take a step is terrifying

[granite blade]

swapped weapons without whispersmith

[opal dawn]

What are you learning by typing in some prompts...

[mild flower]

swapped weapons with whispersmith

[opal dawn]

Perhaps a hand cannon is comin' into Hunt now

[granite blade]

i was tempted to say that but wanted to give someone else the opportunity :v

[alpine crown]

Since you're saying that, there are many things you can see you don't know anything about either. It's kind of laborious, like I said, I'm doing it as a hobby, I'm doing it for myself.

[lofty parrot]

yay more cqc ohko..... yaaay.... no one needs it

[whole furnace]

Primal and destructive, fire based most likely.
And if I can cope: #game-ideas message

[mild flower]

The biggest hints are:

Primal
Destructive
Firearm
Entirely new strategic possibilities

[whole furnace]

All like my suggestion uwu

[tall canopy]

no allowed

[whole furnace]

True, I am running on hopium instead!

[tall canopy]

maybe the weapon they teased is custom servers

[granite blade]

unfortunately people afraid of ai so... either way not really a topic for this channel and honestly might even be considered political atp idk

[whole furnace]

Think "afraid" is wrong word to use.
It is more a principle against the tech behind.

[fathom shale]

Calling it laborious is a bit wild when it takes less than 1% of the effort it takes from someone who is creating a real song

Since you have to also consider the time and effort they took to learn their skill

[alpine crown]

I really understand.

[granite blade]

i mean if you are developing the ai yourself then it definitely can be laborious

[prisma kernel]

when i think about pain this is my pain clip

[granite blade]

and as for making songs, most nowadays just throw in a bunch of shoddy effects and everyone loses their minds over it

[mild flower]

for some reason, when watching this clip, the only thought my brain could conjure was "buh"

it just draws that out of you

[fathom shale]

Maybe, still more effort than a few prompts to suno 😄

[tawny frost]

and people always say why i have a blunt melee equipped

[fathom shale]

Not gonna partake in the AI cope personally

[alpine crown]

For example, I'm making these types of music as a hobby for myself to enjoy because there's practically no content like this in Brazil, and the community is very small. This could bring back some of the Brazilian audience.

[granite blade]

definitely yea. which is why i said developing an ai would be laborious :v

[fathom shale]

That's not what is happening here though is it

[tall canopy]

i dont think AI music is bringing ppl back to hunt

[granite blade]

idk tbh

and im not really interested in assuming either

if hes happy, then hes happy so whatever

[alpine crown]

It's not about bringing something, but about having something that inspires.

[fathom shale]

And that is how we got a state of internet where half the content is AI slop that was created in a few seconds only for the future AI to regurgitate that content and progressively become worse and worse

[granite blade]

if your daughter comes up to you with a shitty ass drawing and asks " do you like it?" do you respond with " no honey, its actually quite shitty and ass."... no, you respond positively because you know they are just trying to make you happy and you want to repay in kind.

[fathom shale]

That is entirely different lmao

[alpine crown]

For example, you really like a Hunter, but you don't know much about their backstory. The old Hunt magazine used to be great; it told everyone's story in great detail. I don't know if it has as many stories now, especially in my language, which is Portuguese.

[fathom shale]

They still drew that, I would praise the hell out of them

[granite blade]

it isnt, he didnt post that here with any ill intentions.

[whole mist]

🤯

[fathom shale]

This has to be bait

No way you compare an actual child doing a real drawing to this

[granite blade]

and now the typical fallback to just calling everything bait, ggs

[fathom shale]

I mean it's either that or an argument that makes zero sense

[tall canopy]

at least ur child put love and effort into the drawing and its something personal.

ai could never

[fathom shale]

So either you conciously chose to do an argument that doesn't make any sense or don't know it doesn't make any sense, it's your pick

[opal dawn]

Woah

[alpine crown]

That's why I'm doing this just for myself and for a limited audience. I didn't create any specific channel for the music or anything like that; I just release it in the game's community to try and find some people who are interested in the content, but I'm not focused on gaining any credit or anything like that.

[granite blade]

while ai itself cannot(yet), the person that put together the prompt can have good intentions behind it.

[tall canopy]

no

if a child is just prompting an ai drawing you cant compare it if the child drwas something themselves

[fathom shale]

Then maybe they should put "made with AI" somewhere

[tall canopy]

theres no creativity behind it

[fathom shale]

Instead of having to be asked if it was AI

Even the video description says "Original BR music inspired by Hunt: Showdown 1896 – Cry of the Caged Bird."

That is not original

[granite blade]

you can because the end reasoning is to make someone else happy. why does making someone else happy have to be limited by effort?

[alpine crown]

I put it in the descriptions, but like I said, I was learning at the beginning.

[tall canopy]

because theres no love and effort behind it

[granite blade]

good intention to make someone happy is love, even with such little effort

it doesnt take much effort to say "you look good today"

[mild flower]

I'd rather someone just express their love in words than give me an AI piece at that point.
At least then it's coming from them personally.

[opal dawn]

It does if they really don't look good that day

[alpine crown]

https://youtu.be/3MoyvJK4-7A?si=6C9KuDE0bcpjbCgK

[granite blade]

its 4 words, if 4 words is hard then maybe take speech classes idk

[tall canopy]

and what does ai have to do with words?

[whole mist]

I am totally lost with what's goig on rn

[mild flower]

goig

[granite blade]

was that a reply to you? no?

[whole mist]

I will not correct that mistake

[fathom shale]

Slightly better, entirely different video tho

[tall canopy]

originaly yes :D

[alpine crown]

It's just that in real life I work a lot, so some of the descriptions came out a bit quickly, but thanks for reminding me, I'll do it.

[granite blade]

i replied to someone else commenting on what i said

[tall canopy]

[granite blade]

if i wanted you to respond, i would have replied to you

[granite blade]

and thats fine if you and most want to limit what forms of appreciation, love, happiness, ectect that you want to accept

personally this world is too full of hate to go declining acts of kindness left and right just because twitter mindset

[whole mist]

giving someone ai generated art is as much effort as me copy&pasting a .png image

[fathom shale]

Aight the AI cope has gone for long enough, back to Hunt topics

[opal dawn]

Hunt, but it's an AI fever dream

[granite blade]

and when someone sends me a copy&pasted .png image telling me something uplifting, ill be happy about it just as much as an actual message/words

[opal dawn]

They're working on improving the bots, I wonder if we'll ever see an empty lobby again in the future

[whole mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1135472984686071868/1436194000741597204/leia_sigh.gif

[whole mist]

perhaps

[mild flower]

experimental gamemodes mentioned in the roadmap sounds interesting

[tall canopy]

team soul survivor pls

[mild flower]

maybe that'll stop us from getting more revive bolt scenarios where things are added without testing and suck

[fathom shale]

Honestly I think prop hunt would go kinda hard in Hunt, but idk if they are willing to do more "joke" modes like that

[mild flower]

i think it's more of a test server kind of thing

[whole mist]

testing things out in small ltm modes is the way to go imo

[mild flower]

I've always wished they would do april fools events.

[whole mist]

It would be like the test server....but more fun and engaging hopefully

[dense girder]

Reminded me of that CoD prop hunt clip with that huge ass gas station sign ifykyk

[mild flower]

and wouldnt require you to download and open an entire other game

[dense girder]

I'd post the clip here, but hunt-general or something

[opal dawn]

You could go off-topic

[lofty parrot]

Which amount of money is "enough" for u guys ingame?

[opal dawn]

I'm at 710k, it's never enough

[mild flower]

enough for what

[lofty parrot]

Not being worried about what u buy and what u my lose

[dense girder]

Tbh, I'm never worried about either of that

Not even after fresh prestige

Gaining HD is too easy in this economy

[granite blade]

around 80-100k is when i really stopped caring(started running avtos, nitros, and dolches more often)

[opal dawn]

My buddy is prestiging, he just blows through cash and does cheapo/free hunters until he gets a couple of grands again

[mortal cove]

As someone that loves art and the process of art creation, I fundementally oppose AI "art" with every fiber of my being.

[opal dawn]

THen rince and repeat

[mortal cove]

Because fundementally it's not art in the same way humans create it

It's a machine that averages out the millions of inputs you feed it.

(That is how machine learning works fundementally)

[granite blade]

we were told to stop this convo

[mortal cove]

My bad, didn't see where that was brought up

I will stop then

[mortal cove]

Prop Hunt in Hunt would be awesome

Trouble in Hunter Town when?

[dense girder]

random wind turbine skedaddling through the compound

[mortal cove]

"Was that stack of hay always on that rooftop?"

[dense girder]

I remember Minecraft Prop hunt times

good days

[opal dawn]

It wouldn't fly in 6* lobbies, sweats knowing exactly every placement of glass on the ground

[mortal cove]

Honestly I would love a TTT style gamemode for Hunt

[dense girder]

yesss

[mortal cove]

The systems are pretty much in place already for such a gamemode

[dense girder]

omg, TTT nostalgia

garrys mod

[mortal cove]

Unlike Prop Hunt a TTT style gamemode would only need a small re-tooling of systems that are already in place for Hunt Showdown

[tall canopy]

i much rather take some new fun modes than the next clash tbh. something that is not that serious than the other gamemoes

[mortal cove]

Well, a social deduction gamemode would be great for that

Hunt has all the systems you need for it

[dense girder]

gimme Hunt poker

[opal dawn]

Can you cheat and pull out derringers?

[dense girder]

maybe

[opal dawn]

Cuz I wanna be able to cheat and for someone to pull a gun on me for calling my bluff

[unreal river]

Is there a way for bile weaver eggs to do 150 damage?

[opal dawn]

Could be bombs planted in them

Other than that, no

[unreal river]

Aaah trying to figure out what just happened 😄 my two teamates died but the dmg history just says 150dmg from the eggs 😄 it did look like an explosion but no alert trips went off.

[opal dawn]

A sneaky little tactic people do is to pop the eggs, put a dark dynamite in them, and leave

When they respawn the egg bursting will cause it to go boom

[unreal river]

I did wonder if a satchel can be used and the eggs trigger them (if the eggs respawn)

[opal dawn]

They respawn after a while

[unreal river]

Ok, cool it was probably that then but the dmg read out was wrong.

[vague sparrow]

is it impossible to reach 4*+ as a solo player or what

I've been stuck at 3

[whole furnace]

Kill more than you die.
Like... a lot more

[vague sparrow]

I have 1.34 kdr does that count

[whole furnace]

Depends who you kill and die to

[lime mural]

So When I retire a hunter it says I can no longer play with that hunter but when visit the hire tab I can still hire and play as the retired hunter, What's up with that?

[fathom shale]

That hunter starts fresh

It means losing that instance of the hunter, levels and all

[lime mural]

Why does it say "You can no longer play as this hunter"?

[fathom shale]

Because it's referring to that instance of the hunter as I said

[lime mural]

Alright

[tired sparrow]

can someone explain to me why we booth 4 star have to fight six star solos ? wtf he has a 3 star mmr as a six star....

[light sky]

Because Solos have the underdog modifier that puts them in lower MMR lobbies, is intended.

Unless they are deep into high 6*

[tired sparrow]

so you are telling me a six star has a fair fight against 4 star players. Sure 👍

[fathom shale]

Depends, there's also a loss/win streak factor so if they were that low in match MMR they might've been on a loss streak

[fair stag]

It doesn't really matter what mmr a solo is, I have a 5.5 modifier when I solo and still go against full 3/4 star teams

[fathom shale]

It does

[fair stag]

Not in my experience.

[fathom shale]

It depends on the amount of brackets in the queue you're playing in

Since you seem to be on console, that has less brackets, so you see a bigger variety of MMR in matches

[fair stag]

I'm not sure what the bracket gap is, if it's still a +/-2 still but as a 5.5 I've been against teams with a 2

There are so many sixes in console after they upped the %, I know there are sixes on peak but it'll still give me 3s and 4s

Anybody on console could be a 6 now if they're ratty enough, seen 0.6s with <50k bounty in 6

[wary flower]

Just had a clown and cringe player mald in my steam profile because I killed him with a bow lmao

[mild flower]

TBF bow is also "cringe"

But you're still less cringe than them

[fathom shale]

How is it cringe

No limb pen, slows you down when you have an arrow ready, mostly usable at close range

It's close to meme tier if anything

[whole girder]

So easy to bait out a bow shot with good movement

[fathom shale]

Pretty much any basic gun will outperform it

[mild flower]

Same way crown is, just being broken and spammable. Although I don't really like "cringe" as a phrase, because it tends to discourage people to do what they want in a space where they obviously can do what they want.

[fathom shale]

Bow being broken is news to me

To me it's at the opposite end of the spectrum

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-shocked-funny-memes-gif-2651717394134726385

[steep narwhal]

I have a friend who only plays bow

she's been struggling since frag arrows became scarce

[fathom shale]

I mostly see it being used with decent success in mid MMR, rarely in high MMR

[steep narwhal]

it's really good weapon in some situations, but if you need to push it's useless

She's 6* and using bow+hand crossbow w/chokes

[mild flower]

I don't understand how infinite ammo, semi auto firerate, no reload, >30m one shot range, silence, built in melee, utility ammo, bleed, silence and medium slot can be anything but good

[steep narwhal]

I mostly see bows with sniper rifles

[fathom shale]

Because of the things I already listed

No limb pen alone is already a big factor

Even if you aim perfectly, if the enemy happens to aim at you or even slightly shift around, you might hit their arms instead of torso

Meanwhile with a gun you will most of the time do full damage when aiming center of mass

[mild flower]

You don't need to deal with the slowdown at ranges that it actually matters because you only need to jump and draw for a fraction of a second for a one shot.

[fathom shale]

And semi auto fire rate at what draw level? Sure you can spam it and have the arrows land like 2 meters in front of you

[mild flower]

#hunt-general message

[fathom shale]

So still around shotgun range where a shotgun will have limb pen

I simply prefer my guns doing damage based on where I aim, not based on if the enemy happened to do an animation that put their arms in front of them

[mild flower]

Yes. And yet they can also draw for 30m range and have all previously listed advantages over a shotgun. Limb pen is admittedly one of the things a shotgun has over the bow

[unique trail]

Hi guys should I play hunt today

[mild flower]

No

Play roblox

[wary flower]

Skissue

[fathom shale]

Again assuming you don't hit arms

To me it's an RNG weapon the same as using fanning or levering

And I avoid both of those these days

[whole mist]

This new Hunt 2026 update looking cool rn🤔

[mild flower]

Damnit. You got me there

[unique trail]

I dont have that one

[urban notch]

we will be able to pay to open barricated doors xD

[whole mist]

Been playing lots of WaW lately. I miss when games like this had clean visibility and lighting

[wary flower]

If you can't space it, dodge it or kill the guy while he draws then it really is

[steep narwhal]

omg goated game right there

[mild flower]

Spacing it just means they pull out their mosin. Killing the guy while they draw would work if they had to draw for more than 1/3 of a second to ohk me

Don't even know what you mean by "dodge", the arrows ain't that slow XD

[wary flower]

Apples and oranges

[mild flower]

What

This is all coming from someone who used to main the bow btw.

When I used it, it was so extremely easy to do well compared to everything else

Just recently used it again on a free hunter and it was the same way

Guess it's a possibility I'm just good with it but I don't see why I'd be any better with it than something else

[whole mist]

mfw bow is good in bow range 😡

[mild flower]

When bow range is 30m and it is also silent and is one of if not the best pve and utility weapon with infinite ammo as well yeah

Man when frag arrows were purchaseable it was even worse

[whole mist]

The bow is good, I just don't like when people call it "over powered". It's good at what it does, but outside of it's intended range it's buns

[mild flower]

Which is why you have a mosin for ranges over 30 m

Obviously you're not using one weapon in your Loadout for every range

There's a reason you get to bring 2 weapons

[whole furnace]

I mean, remember all what the bow does on top of being a 2-slot.

Bow slugs better than slugs and nitro better than nitro.

[mild flower]

Just make it 3 slot so people have to commit to it

And then do something about quartermaster so that actually works

[whole furnace]

Like bow IS one of the most frequently used 2-slots.
What I see in game and from what I've recorded in my very small sample size (need to get back to that data gathering).
And it makes sense, it does a lot of things very well.

[whole mist]

I'm not saying the bow is bad. It's a great weapon. I just think "overpowered" gets thrown around too loosely with the bow. Same goes for shotguns.

I've seen people get OHK shot in the back by a shotgun or bow under 30m and go "that gun is op" 🗿

[whole furnace]

Over the span of 10 games, so keep in mind not anything conclusive, but bow (with rival HC) is already sticking out.

[mild flower]

I can attest to that, I see bow just as much as I see auto 4, probably more

[mild flower]

Woah so many rivals wtf

[whole furnace]

Well, it is on the stronger side, so arguably over the powerlevel of what makes it fair :p

[whole furnace]

Well, it is hard to gather data due to challenges.

Might be streak of Rival challenges

[whole girder]

are saturdays and sundays off for the crytek support team?

i havent gotten a response on my ticket yet

[tall canopy]

yes

[whole furnace]

As far I am aware yes :)

[mild flower]

On the stronger side is an understatement imo.
It trivialises the game for me compared to other weapons. I decide not to use it because it's too easy.

[whole mist]

A weapon I'd say is OP would be the Mosin. It does too many things well across all ranges

[whole girder]

so if i got an automated reply on saturday can i be assured it will be a normal human after Sunday?

[mild flower]

Yes mosin is op but that's old news

And it doesn't really stand out. It has so many counterparts

Bow is op in a unique way

[whole furnace]

Mosin it at least a 3-slot commitment, a rally good one, but still.
Bow is MUCH more versatile due to its 2-slot nature.
Which is also evidently as you can see people running bow MUCH more than Crossbow.
Despite dealing more (max) damage, having better drop and better MV.

Sorry. Same MV, but better hipfire than the Crossbow

[bright plover]

I've been running nothing but Avto + Sparks for the last ~10-15 games. And I ended up in a massive surplus before prestiging. Damn, the economy is so easy lately.

I'll of course keep prestiging

and on another note, Avto is so fucking not worth it

I'm playing purely bc of friends want it + intimidation factor

[whole furnace]

Good, tho it can still be a misery machine

Had a guy spraying a full clip at me missing everything and then 1 min later get a lucky double tap.

[tall canopy]

the first message afaik is always an automatic one that tells you that it may take 1-2 days and thy´re not there on the weekend

[whole girder]

im talking if i get an automated message on an already open ticket

is it because its saturday/sunday?

[tall canopy]

idk, maybe depends on the thing you reported

[whole girder]

got falsely banned

was appealing it

i wrote a message on an already open ticket i had due to connectivity issues

[tall canopy]

then i guess u have to wait a bit till you get an answer

[whole girder]

but i also opened a new ticket for the ban (this one doesnt have a reply yet)

but the one i had open already for connectivity issues when i asked about the ban i got an automated response

[tall canopy]

if the message tells you u need to wait, then wait

[whole girder]

the one on the ticket that i newly opened said reply time is 2 days

the one on the ticket i already had opened for a different reason i got an automated response saying we have proof bla bla that sentence

[bright plover]

At the range Avto is actually effective, I'd rather just have one of the shotguns.

Like no matter which kill as of late I think of, it was close range, like up to 20 meters.

anything longer and I have just the shitty sparks pistol

[tall canopy]

idk man. if they told oyu they have proof and closed the ticket that could be it.

only the support can help you there

[bright plover]

It's honestly not terrible either, but I'd rather have any of the shotguns (homestead my beloved) + Pax.

[mild flower]

Hey man don't you go calling sparks pistol shitty

[whole girder]

im waiting regardless for the new ticket that i opened

[whole furnace]

Hence why misery machine, feels rng to die to it.

[whole girder]

they didnt close the other one anyway

[bright plover]

The sway is still bad, but it has worse fire rate than Uppercut or Pax. I just see it as objectively outclassed.

The only exception is it's main purpose being more ammo for Avot

[mild flower]

Still the only 125+ damage pistol atm

It's good to pair with specific things

[bright plover]

Examples?

I might try it

I've been trying the loadout randomizer

but the moment it gave me a melee weapon + Nagant dual wield and a few similar suggestions I kinda gave it a break

[whole girder]

play with krag

[bright plover]

No weapon for close range then tho?

When I run krag or any otherl ong ammo rifle I tend to run officer

[whole girder]

just dont play close range

[bright plover]

...

Genius.

[west vector]

Can anyone that got the Convalescent Home success go on my profile and tell me where I'm at?
You can't see your progress if you havent got it
https://steamcommunity.com/id/elster07/

[whole girder]

play krag for close range

hit headshots

stay close range but still out of shotgun range

which is around 15 meters

[mild flower]

Any primary that deals sub 125 so it covers an uncovered spot in the loadout, or with fire so that when you destroy a bar they're one shot to it.

Specifically, I recommend it with FMJ because it's one of the only options in the game that let you down a 125hp hunter to the body through a wall, which is a nice utility to have in a secondary

It also pairs nicely with any form of chip damage, like the sparks full size does.

[cursive marlin]

Yall think we completed the bileweavers phase 2

[mild flower]

https://discord.com/channels/350201607788429323/1401998886951977040

[tall canopy]

you can see ingame in the stats how many hunters u already retired

[dense sleet]

jsut left click your name while in the lobby and itll bring up this screen

[dense girder]

I don't think that's super precise tho. I got the achievement well after retiring 45 hunters or smth (Maybe cause back in the day you could retire hunters under lvl 50)

Or maybe that achievement didn't exist back then idk

[dense sleet]

click your name then afterwards

easy stat screen

[vestal kindle]

I didn't get the random legendary hunter drop. What do you think could be the reason for this? I only missed that one, I got everything else!

[dense sleet]

you probably did, it just didnt show up as a popup

mine didnt, and its not uncommon for that to happen

[vestal kindle]

I didn't receive it, I checked several times!

Who can I write to about my problem?

[dense sleet]

did you JUST claim them?

like just now

bc even if you own all BB skins, youll get hunt bucks instead and if you got everything e lse then you did in fact get the hunter

[vestal kindle]

yes

[dense sleet]

restart your game or do a match then

do a SS match then leave it instantly

ive alwasy had issues with my drops not instantyl coming in unless i do one of those 2 things

[vestal kindle]

I'll check again then.

[dense sleet]

i would restart your game or leave a match and come back with the results

if you STILL dont have them @vestal kindle , i would contact support

!support

[graceful hedge]

Instructions on how to reach out can be found here: #customer-support.

[harsh pecan]

I like to run the second edition Plague Doctors, Brood and Bile. They seemingly blend in with a lot, if you just use the shadows and pounce.

[dense sleet]

i was always a firm believer that peopel who played skins for that advantage needed a cope

[dense girder]

I'm still mad I missed the og plague doctor by like a day or two during the event

[dense sleet]

or people that bitched about skins being hard to see was pure cope

i had some situations where it was genuinely hard to see but i had next to none with any of hte problematic skins over the years

[harsh pecan]

Hunt is a game that requires a fair bit of game sense. ARMA players will know what I mean.

[dense sleet]

most games with a expansive and detailed map does

this is nothing new

imo, its just people getting salty they died and find anything to pin the blame on besides themselves

[harsh pecan]

Oh, I know. I've played with several people who the moment they get downed, it's 100% tilt.

[dense sleet]

i got into a full blown arguement with a guy who said a mf was cheating because he was playing a cain that kiled him

only cheaters play cain

like what?

[harsh pecan]

Only cheaters use Mosin Spitzer.

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-boba-fett-the-mandalorian-this-is-the-way-the-book-of-boba-fett-mandalorian-gif-24825263

[dense sleet]

quickest game of my life i ended up apolagizing to the other person i was playing with and just blew myself up and left the call

which sucks, the other person was cool as fuck

[dense sleet]

3star mindset moment

[harsh pecan]

I've only ever left 3 matches in over 2,000 hours. 3 people were super toxic on my random spawns.

[hollow rapids]

EU Server down?

[dense sleet]

i can count on one hand in almost 5k hours ive left a match midway through

and it was nearly always in response to a teammate

[harsh pecan]

That's me too. Teammate being toxic af.

[dense sleet]

its not even that

im toxic lmao

[harsh pecan]

I couldn't tell.

[dense sleet]

its more so if a teammate is so frustrating to TALK TOO, not PLAY WITH, TALKING WITH THEM is a chore

i just leave

[vestal kindle]

where can i find support link?

[dense sleet]

idgaf if you are bad at the game, i play with anybody, just be fine to talk too lol

[dense sleet]

!support

[graceful hedge]

Instructions on how to reach out can be found here: #customer-support.

[dense sleet]

kek

im really not that bad, but i do surely have my MORE than fair share of moments

my toxic trait is correcting stats and shit xD, i am such a stat nerd i cant help myself

[harsh pecan]

I'm gonna go spawn a Beast Hunter with a Hundred Hands loadout, and just stalk people with concertina arrows. Toodles.

[hollow rapids]

Lol the game Force me to play on RU Servers

[dense sleet]

l8r

[harsh pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/bewitched-magic-witch-witchcraft-gif-17816059093490267616

[dense sleet]

hell im gonna go watch a Rust Vidya and make my breakfast

[hollow rapids]

i dont understand why not allowed play in my region XD

[dense sleet]

laters

[dense sleet]

you get better ping than me in my OWN SERVERS lol

at least NAE

i get 110-120 consistantly

[hollow rapids]

me in germany 😄

[dense sleet]

one of hte only downsides of living in the woods i suppose

that and the bullet holes in my house from people not paying attentions

[hollow rapids]

i dont know why ru server 12ms O.o

[spark plaza]

amogus

[atomic coral]

Not so sneaky as they thought

[hollow seal]

is the twitch drop hunter permanent

[fathom shale]

Pernament skin unlock, yeah

[hollow seal]

nice

[crystal bay]

Shoot yeah gotta get those twitch drops

[dense sleet]

protein pancakes, freshly PICKED and cut fruit and some breakfast potatoes

yummy :p

[dense sleet]

i got Good Alice

not a bad one

those skins were great im glad they were added

[south shore]

I bought the bundle

Good skins

[west vector]

There's a maxed out Hunters stat, but no retired

Sadly

Else there's an issue bc I maxed out 28 hunters but still ahevnt got the 25 needed for the success

[fathom shale]

Your game stats are private so noone can check either way

[west vector]

Oopsie, my bad

Should be public now

[fathom shale]

Still not

[west vector]

? :c

[fathom shale]

Oh it's a hidden achievement

So can't see progress anyways

[west vector]

Nooooo

Welp

Eventually I'll get there

[normal radish]

yeh, shouldnt take long

[mortal cove]

I use Mosin Sniper Spitzer though

[harsh pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-21852548

[mortal cove]

Bonk is fine

[fallow forge]

Guys I need help. The game keeps putting me in the wrong region. I choose EU but I keep getting put in Russia for some reason. The whole day today only russian teams. Any1 else have the same problem?

[mortal cove]

I will greet you with a bullet to the head in return

(ingame ofc)

[opal dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-loop-gif-25594440

I have a few lying around myself... Maybe I'll sin tonight

[crystal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-tiktok-gif-25591053

[opal dawn]

👿

[crystal bay]

I have a few contraband I have to get rid of to clear space I guess

[tall canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[shell turret]

i like how hunt above mmr 4 becomes a ww1 shooter

only long ammo bolt actions

semi auto hanguns

semi auto shotguns

machine guns

[alpine bough]

Ww1 shooter with random creatures

[last ingot]

hunt down?

nvm

[sick temple]

You cannot say you disagree and then agree with me. "Match MMR is what counts" is what I said, and you said "team MMR", which are literally the same thing. Pre 1896 they were named differently, but display the same exact thing. And you are seeing in his screenshot how or why this happens. You can them besides being 6* individually, they are in the 4.5 bracket (he shows it, nothing to argue here). SInce that is "high elo" 4.5 players cant play with 5 teamscore or rarely with 5.5 or 6 if there isnt enough playerbase available at the moment, but that isnt normal as it jumps over a bracket and creates a mismatch, which is what the player was reporting

[normal radish]

i geniuinely disagree. i mostly see arbalests and marathons these days. with a pinch of shotguns of course

besides semi handguns are kinda ass beyond pistol range anyway

my sole gripe is cyclone being able to two tap arms at immense ranges

that things needs a lil tuning

imo no semi gun should be able to two tap arms, or even 1 chest 1 arm

[hazy crest]

Arbalests? Babe it’s 2021 we’re hopping on destiny 2 for a vault of glass raid

[south shore]

A few

https://tenor.com/view/picsou-scrooge-mcduck-gif-6105587

[unique trail]

Hi guys I am playing hunt

[normal radish]

well, arbalest was kinda nice in destiny 2 too but i like it more in hunt

[normal radish]

well how dare you, this is unacceptable

[hazy crest]

What is an arbalest in hunt

That’s not a gun

[normal radish]

x bow, auto bow

[sick temple]

Cyclone shouldnt have special ammo to begin with

[normal radish]

crossbow

[opal dawn]

The Chu ko nu

[sick temple]

FMJ & HV trivialize it even more

[normal radish]

no no

the normal x bow

[opal dawn]

Oh

[normal radish]

thats what i mean

well TECHNICALLY chew kew new is also an xbow

[normal radish]

fmj is very annoying on a gun of that power grade

it shouldnt have same limb damage as bolt actions

[copper valley]

More players per match? Thats actually nice hooefully more progessional unlocks too

[tall canopy]

i hope they dont tell us how much players can be in a match and its random everytime so u can never be sure

[sick temple]

I dont even know how they are gonna fill 6* lobbies and keep it "fair" xd

[tall canopy]

is it 12 players? is it 24 players? u never know

[copper valley]

Ehh highly doubt that

[sick temple]

Most likely its just a team more for trios

[atomic coral]

Remove 6 star. Make the MMR range is 1-5.

[sick temple]

And 1-2 for duos

[sick temple]

They were pulling in the other direction

[copper valley]

But hopefully they add more things to make players keep looping cause Arc raiders is doing a great job with the loot 😭

Still hunting dam humidifers for the "project" so i can prestige in december

[atomic coral]

I think the best way to do it without people seeing something on the UI to point at as unfair is to make each MMR bracket bigger.

[copper valley]

And i still got 4 more stages

[normal radish]

i doubt thatd help a lotta people tbf

[atomic coral]

Becaue when I'm 4 star against 6 stars it feels unfair. Less unfair if I see they're 5 stars and I'm only one bracket under them, or better if I never see the top bracket because they have enough players to stay out of my bracket.

[copper valley]

Help what people? Youre always gonna get someone crying about getting dunked on

But i think the ranking system is just made toxic since the get go and makes players focus to hard on what they were matched with

[hazy crest]

In the game’s code for whatever reason the chu ko counts as a bow and not an x bow

[copper valley]

Arc has nothing like that except solos or trios

Just like how hunt did in the beginning at least

[south shore]

100 and we all drop in from hot air balloons

[copper valley]

I just dont understand why they kept rankings if they removed leaderboards or dont have season unlocks for stars at the end of a season

[south shore]

You start with dusters and a medkit

[normal radish]

well they eventually lead to "bow" i guess lol

[copper valley]

Bigger maps 👀

[quiet hinge]

after like 3000 hours, i've started to dabble in dual wield pistols and they're surprisingly pretty consistent - something I never thought I would say about dual wield

specifically the conversion pistol

[opal dawn]

Conversions, pax, trueshot, all good dualies

[trail spade]

I love dual trueshot

Genuinely laser tier

[quiet hinge]

with fmj the recoil is kinda nuts

[mortal basin]

Dualies are cracked

[quiet hinge]

i'm genuinely surprised I don't see them too often because of how well they actually work

[trail spade]

I ran dumdum for a while gotta try fmj

I think dualies were bad before the 1896 update

Could be wrong

[mortal basin]

They were just as good before

Far as I know, at least

[quiet hinge]

I wanted to give them a super fair shot so i just used conversions

[trail spade]

Silenced nagant seems to home in to headshots when dual wielding I swear

[mortal basin]

They're pretty strong in compound fights. Extremely consistent at that range

[opal dawn]

If you want even more lazer use the devil card

[trail spade]

Nitro + dual pax trueshot + devil card = peak

[quiet hinge]

devil makes no difference it seems

for conversions

[opal dawn]

Weird, it should

[slow thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[sick temple]

At 4.5, you are never seeing the "top bracket", that is 6* match mmr

unless a mismatch happens

[trail spade]

Conv is already a laser imo

[quiet hinge]

which is super weird

because look at the pax

[mortal basin]

That skin is so nice

[atomic coral]

I'm refering to if they change it to lump 6 star and high 5 into one big 5 star bracket

[sick temple]

And precisely top bracket lacks players, not enough

[quiet hinge]

why in the world does devil not change conversions?

[sick temple]

Wouldnt change a thing and mix people in between, same as how people that are 6 now are basically disguised 4-5*

6000 has a 2000 elo difference, which is crazy

[mortal basin]

They knew it would be too op 😭

[sick temple]

while other brackets, what? 500?

[quiet hinge]

checking to see if its just the double skin

[normal radish]

as a reference this is what a max mmr lobby should be like

[sick temple]

Because we dont need or want another conversion fmj meta like it was before precrouch accuracy changes

[sick temple]

Exactly

[mortal basin]

Idk, every match I have is full of 6*, and they're pretty much always sweaty teams

[quiet hinge]

I mean lol

[mortal cove]

Have you checked the bloom of the bullets themselves? The UI bloom might not be able to go smaller than the dual conversion for dual wield pistols

[opal dawn]

It does help on strafing tho

Making them more accurate while moving

[quiet hinge]

it feels the exact same with devil / no devil

pax seems to have the same accuracy as conversions though

[sick temple]

You mean lol

gotcha

[quiet hinge]

but is effected by devil

[atomic coral]

You mean spread? Never heard anyone call it bloom before.

[quiet hinge]

so i don't really understand what you mean @sick temple

[sick temple]

Because you probably didnt play that patch

[mortal cove]

Yeah, Spread, whatever xD

[sick temple]

They are trying to avoid replicating what was once was problematic and lead to a major change in the game

[mortal cove]

You knew what I mean

[sick temple]

crouching accuracy

[quiet hinge]

crackshot even effected dualwield conversions

[atomic coral]

Yeah just took a few seconds to process

[quiet hinge]

I think its sort of silly not to say this is a bug

[sick temple]

This was way before crackshot was a thing

Those type of perks (that can potentially break the game) shouldnt really be a thing if you asked me

[mortal cove]

Ngl, I do kind of miss that

[sick temple]

(or like gunrunner)

[mortal cove]

But I also miss the old Sparks quickswap

[sick temple]

It took 0 skill to see premades crouching with dualis

boring af

[quiet hinge]

but they're in the game whether you like it or not, even I don't agree with them, things like gunrunner or blademancer or crackshot - it's just weird that devil doesn't change the conversions specifically

[sick temple]

Deleted already lmao

[quiet hinge]

when pax has the same accuracy as conversions

[sick temple]

Minus crackshot that now has a con

Before it was literally free

[sick temple]

Slightly slower fire rate

and pricing, back then conversion were like 24-25 dollars

[quiet hinge]

deleted after a full event - sure, but there's recurring ones and devil will probably still be in the game after the event

[sick temple]

Yeah, so what? That doesnt mean they are balanced or not

In fact gunrunner was pretty popular, in spite of how broken it was

Doesnt mean it should stay

[quiet hinge]

that's the whole point, it looks like devil is going to stay

[sick temple]

Whatever, at least it has a con now

[dense sleet]

all the tarots are staying

and we do not know how to obtain them normally NON this event wise

whether itll work like random find akin to what we have now, daily tribs or anything

[sick temple]

Bet you it will be some boring looting game

go to x brick ruins or go to towers

and try your rng

[quiet hinge]

more than likely it will be the same as it is now like under towers, or on the side of towers etc

[dense sleet]

thats kinda how it already is with items obtained like that

nothign different

[sick temple]

Precisely

[dense sleet]

"boring looter" is a very subjective take, its simple and it doesnt need to be more

hunt isnt a looter, and i appreciate it

[sick temple]

I enjoy looters, but searching for an rng card so people can have an advatange hipfiring seems boring beyond belief

that is also subjective but whatever

[dense sleet]

at least it has a genuine downside that REALLY sucks to deal with

so the devil is balanced in that regard

[sick temple]

Yeah that is what i was saying

At least it has a con now

xd

[dense sleet]

none of the tarots are super strong, they have strong effects but they dont break anythign or make anything unfair

[quiet hinge]

idk, i feel like the other ones had a much worse con

[dense sleet]

how?

[quiet hinge]

the con being it took a literal trait slot

[dense sleet]

yea ok

but zero downside

[quiet hinge]

mind you devil leaves after the game

[sick temple]

Hell naw

[dense sleet]

heres 15-30% depending on the gun and it also has no downsides

[sick temple]

"a trait slot" you were getting dogwalked by avtos martinis and mosin c&k

you think they care

[dense sleet]

Crackshot was way worse of a balance issue, trait slot taken is a valid point but no absolute downside

and devil lasting a single game, a single LIFE, is really good

its a powerful effect but with really tough cons

[quiet hinge]

100% it is, both are downsides i just think a trait slot is a worse downside

[dense sleet]

idk, subjective ofc. but the tarot cards are a fantastic addition to hunt

im glad they are staying, no adjustment needed

im only curious how the chariot card is gonna work now, if the game will just permanntly have this extract mechanic, and honestly id be ok with it

[quiet hinge]

same, I think chariot is a great addition

especially when the map is split

[slow thunder]

much healthier

[forest holly]

But empress feels kinda strong for solo 🤔

[dense sleet]

i mean sure

but necro in general hardly does anything

in most games

at least in my elo

[forest holly]

True

[dense sleet]

i always felt that solo necro was basically only a server fight use or low mmr use

[mortal basin]

^

[atomic coral]

Case in point, even when I don't burn and camp XD

[mortal basin]

I like Empress, but it's kinda the same for me as Recovery shot. I like that they added ways to get bars (or Necro for solos) back, but just making it a consumable is a bit unfortunate imo. The Tarot cards feel more like a mechanic than the recovery shot, but still. RNG and all

[mighty meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-ryujinr-grey-cat-gif-13471549557469691566

[sick temple]

I disagree, depends on how your teammates die, but I see your point

If they are randoms, it hardly sees any good use

[mighty meadow]

are they even gonna stay in game after event ends

[sick temple]

But with a coordinated premade, if you die well enough, its a free out of jail card

[mighty meadow]

because if no then why even care

[mortal basin]

I think? I can't imagine they would just remove them. They'll at least be back for other events

I'm presuming

[mighty meadow]

shredder was removed

[atomic coral]

removed-ish

[forest holly]

The road map did say cards will stay, probably reworked

[mortal basin]

It will almost certainly come back

[sick temple]

We have post melon

where is pre melone

[mortal basin]

I seriously doubt they would put all that work into a weapon and just can it entirely

[mighty meadow]

it was me in the past

[quiet hinge]

theres two malone skins, one is pre other post

[mighty meadow]

melon is unfortunately stuck in the limbo between past, present and future

[sick temple]

back to the void

💯

[mighty meadow]

me when i come back to my basement so i can finally play silly games on silly pc

[cedar linden]

From my last few days of playing I found the game really fun but really hard my problem is I always hear them running and stuff but I just can’t exactly place where they’re coming from just now I got jumpscared by 2 people after killing 1

[mighty meadow]

might be headphones issue

after i changed my headphones i have harder time in pinpointing locations of hunters in hunt

by sound

[quiet hinge]

a good way to learn is to use silenced weapons that way you have more time to identify where the sound is coming from, things like a crossbow, a bow, or a silenced gun with subsonic will give you more time after killing one

[cedar linden]

Interesting I’m using the krag silencer if I’m right I don’t know if there is any better for me to use

[normal radish]

i use a 5 dollar earphone and it does its job fine, as long as its not mono

[normal radish]

i think its just a matter of practice

[quiet hinge]

krag silencer is good but if you're using subsonic ammo you're probably better off just using a frontier silenced with iron eye and levering. It has a very good RoF, and subsonic crushes all weapons velocities. But you should only be aiming for the head

[atomic coral]

Though if you have some USB headset chances are it's doing something extra (software and such) and messing with Hunt's sounds

[quiet hinge]

a frontier silenced has a ton of ammo, and a good panic button which is levering

[cedar linden]

Guys this might be the dumbest thing ever I said but I don’t have headphones 😭😭😭

[quiet hinge]

good luck!

LOL

[unique trail]

If you have no mic and run off to solo rotjaw and then die im not going to revive you

[atomic coral]

Speakers completely negate the directional sound

[normal radish]

ah, respectfully, that is dumb

[unique trail]

FYI

[cedar linden]

I know I didn’t think of it I’ll buy some soon then

Is there any specific or will any just work

[normal radish]

dont spend too much

[south shore]

You should probably buy some headphones

[normal radish]

if it has LEFT RIGHT on ech sides your good

[quiet hinge]

that is probably the cutest thing i've read on this discord im not gonna lie lol

[unique trail]

Buy headphones

[cedar linden]

I will I will 🥲

I’ll make sure to buy some soon then it’s probably easier

[normal radish]

yeh, its needed

[quiet hinge]

it will get easier with headphones once you're use to wearing them while playing hunt. Hunt can be very overstimulating

[cedar linden]

I’ll tell you all when I buy some 😭

[sick temple]

Im playing with 20 dollars headset

forget

anything decent will do the job

[quiet hinge]

you don't even need a headset to get to 6 star

[normal radish]

i play with a 5 dollar earpiece

[quiet hinge]

let alone sound

[sick temple]

Idk I always had an headset for gaming

[pulsar stirrup]

how to find the picture with what is possible to get in the drops?

[quiet hinge]

!drops

[graceful hedge]

Information about twitch drop campaigns can be found here: https://www.huntshowdown.com/twitchdrops

[quiet hinge]

that doesn't help much

[normal radish]

i somehow am inclined to shed a few particles of doubt on your extrapolation

[quiet hinge]

theres a command for a big sheet with all the days and stuff, we're on the last week so you can get a random hunter if you watch for 4 hours

[sick temple]

worded this like a true member of the evil gang, respect

[pulsar stirrup]

yeah i saw that sheet before just dont know how to find it

[quiet hinge]

if you play trios and go one for one every game, your mmr will go up

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-7212093

[normal radish]

technically you need to be at keast 2;1 against same mmr players for the slowest climb

otherwise you stagnate in personal

match mmr may vary depending on team performance

[main flax]

Does anyone else run the officer just so you don't have to get fanning/levering for a good panic button at close range?

[quiet hinge]

the safe mmr brackets for trios is 1-3 stars, in these brackets you will usually only fight people around your mmr. But once you are 4 star, the bracket widens and will match you with 4-6 star

[mortal basin]

The panic button for close range is supposed to be your pennyshot derringer

[main flax]

Istg I used it once and put 2 rounds in someone at like 7m away and didn't even get a hit marker, so imma stay away from that thing.

[pale nymph]

sigh everyday cheaters

[mortal basin]

Alright, well... it's for a little bit closer than that 😂

[normal radish]

at any given bracket, there is chance of dying to a lower mmr too, so if you go 1:1 your basically hoping RNG makes that kill a positive one

[sick temple]

Everybody... fanning is pretty much a dead trait

[pale nymph]

level 0 steam account, private, 100-100 prestige, yeah right mate. Shooting through wall without any knowledge

couldn't be more obvious

[sick temple]

XD you want to see something funnier

[quiet hinge]

it is rng, but its favored rng

you can get 6 star by going 1 for 1 in trios

[normal radish]

i mean, 100 100 means he at least has a LIL knowledge

[normal radish]

unlikely, but possible

[main flax]

He was almost within melee range tbh, I could probably have killed him if I went for melee instead of the penny shot, he was close enough I could smell the maidenlessness of that solo

[normal radish]

im not dismissing the fact

[mortal basin]

I go 1 for like 12 in trios and still stay 6*

[quiet hinge]

its not unlikely at all, if three 4 stars q up, what do you think their lobby will be during prime time?

[normal radish]

lies

[mortal basin]

Only a very slight exaggeration

[normal radish]

prime time should have enough players to match them against similar brackets. however in downtimes they might face higher bracket lobbies

then there is a chance

[mortal basin]

It takes a bit to get used to, but it's absolutely insane. I get tons of kills with it. You should give it another chance

[pale nymph]

No i mean he didnt know i was there just started wallbanging

he could see me

[quiet hinge]

i wish this was the case, but the standard is 2 star difference. If you are all 3 stars, you will never fight a team of all 4 stars. But if you are 4 stars it is VERY common to have many 6 stars in the lobby

[sick temple]

Because they are bumped and not really 6 stars

Check their match mmr

99.9 of the times they are 4.5

just like as your team

[mighty meadow]

https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/hunt-showdown-1896-twitch-drops-are-here

[sick temple]

Is not hard to understand

[normal radish]

well, map knowledge over the years can help a lot. im not saying there arent any cheaters, but there are fewer than one might think

[normal radish]

id assume its a team of low match mmr 6 stars against high 4s

[pale nymph]

oh you start shooting spots randomly where there might be hunters?

[mighty meadow]

drops are ending tomorrow, its last part

[pale nymph]

it's not the same man

[normal radish]

i do sometimes yes!

[quiet hinge]

their match mmr has nothing to do with what we're talking about - it's the players killed that will change your mmr. If the players team rank is 4 stars, but the player is 6 star. The kill counted is the 6 star mmr.

[sick temple]

Yes, match mmr is what gives you the matches you are in

It has ALL to do with it, lmao

[quiet hinge]

if you are BASELINE 4 star, it will bump you to higher lobbies

not high 4 star

[normal radish]

pre aiming and shooting angles is a given for experienced players

[quiet hinge]

just barely 4 star

[foggy dune]

until when are the twitch drops?

[unique trail]

Couldn't get anything going today in hunt but I finished my daily dark tribute

[normal radish]

you can have a higher team mmr than the lowest personal mmr in your team.

[sick temple]

Your individual mmr is only a factor, match mmr is the thing you are looking for

[normal radish]

notice how we have a 5 star, but we are at max bracket anyway

[unique trail]

The 10th

Do it today

[quiet hinge]

it does and it doesn't, because a team with 6 star mmr can match with a 4 star mmr team, like I said before the bracket widens to 2 stars

[normal radish]

the performance is based, and regulated by match mmr

[sick temple]

That is not a bracket

[sick temple]

There is no bracket that widens to 2 stars

You are misunderstanding how MMR works

[quiet hinge]

okie dokie lol

[normal radish]

i think so too

[normal radish]

it might happen when there are ABSOLUTELY 0 other options

very rarely

[sick temple]

Brother, at least take it from more experienced players

I think we kinda know what we talking about

xd

[quiet hinge]

it isn't very rarely, when the mmr changes happened I manipulated my mmr to test it out, and it's been this way since the change

[normal radish]

2 star gap means 4 different brackets as match mmr progress is by half star

[quiet hinge]

you don't but that's okay

[sick temple]

"you dont because you dont" nice argument

2 star bracket isnt a thing

[quiet hinge]

well here

[sick temple]

Not in game, not in your dreams

you can keep yapping, wont make it true

[quiet hinge]

when was the last time you played in 2-3 star mmr @sick temple

[sick temple]

My first 100-200h, probably

[quiet hinge]

okay, so how long ago?

[sick temple]

But there wasnt mmr as such

so who knows

[remote moss]

2 star bracket totally exists btw, youll notice streamers in 6 star somehow matching up with 4 to 5 stars in current matchmaking cause game has shit numbers

[quiet hinge]

right - so why would you even know about the difference between 3 star mmr, and 4 star mmr?

if you haven't tried to manipulate the mmr system to understand it?

[sick temple]

That is normal, streamer for content usually play solo trio, where modifiers are applied

[remote moss]

you can do that in solos consistently without waiting for matchmaking to shit itself once playercounts drops to 20,000 and below

[remote moss]

im talking premades trios

[sick temple]

so they are in 4.5-5 match mmr matches, not 6

[normal radish]

i think one biiiig mistake is being made here due to bad comms lol

[sick temple]

Idk what streamers you refer to, the ones I know play at the same elos (match mmr 6, or 5.5)

[quiet hinge]

it's honestly not worth trying to explain it to him

its the same old im old player me know better

[remote moss]

sure, when servers are populated

[sick temple]

Keep inventing brackets bro

[normal radish]

you are making it hard bro

[sick temple]

You dont know what you are talking about yet you yap

[quiet hinge]

then try it, prove it to me

[sick temple]

2 star bracket diff? You know that would make it like 3-4 times bump?

[quiet hinge]

derank to 3 star, go in with 3 stars, and see the lobby

[normal radish]

no need to yell, where you can talk

[sick temple]

XD

[quiet hinge]

then go to 4 star, and show me the lobby

[sick temple]

Show the match MMR of those teams with 6* star players

You will see in the majority of scenarios they are 4.5

If not, its what Venom explained already

[quiet hinge]

do you know what this conversation stemed from?

[normal radish]

itd take me a HUGE amount of deaths to get to 3 stars, i dont think i can manage that without bashing my monitor in lol

[quiet hinge]

getting to 6 star with a 1 to 1 KD

[sick temple]

Due to timezones etc blablba not enough players you get shoved into that

[quiet hinge]

it takes two hours to go from 6 star to 3 star

[normal radish]

PERSONAL or TEAM pls specify

[sick temple]

Yes, you need to specify

[crystal bay]

You guys are winning?

[quiet hinge]

i'm clearly talking about personal 6 star

[sick temple]

If you are low 6, it might take that

[crystal bay]

Nah

[sick temple]

Remember there is a 2000 elo difference

[mortal basin]

Nah

[quiet hinge]

it absolutely does lol

[sick temple]

when you say "6 star" you could be talking about just reaching 6 or being there already high

[normal radish]

personal you will hit, but you will stagnate at low team

[crystal bay]

Nah

[normal radish]

nah x2

[crystal bay]

Maybe back in the day

but not anymore

[quiet hinge]

its even easier now

[crystal bay]

How so?

[quiet hinge]

with recovery shots

[crystal bay]

?

[normal radish]

huh

excuse me

[crystal bay]

team downranking is wild

[normal radish]

HUH?

[crystal bay]

and I would not call that easier

[normal radish]

am i the ragebaiter being baited

[quiet hinge]

lol how is that rage baiting?

[mighty meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[crystal bay]

i will say there is some variance in how fast you can downrank depending on account age

[crystal bay]

I'd go with neither

I believe they believe what they are saying

it's just not fact

[quiet hinge]

the age of the account?

[crystal bay]

Time spent playing*

I misworded it that is my bad

[remote moss]

shit feels like it tracks the past few months of progress when youre seeing how volatile it is

[normal radish]

i think he is confused a lil

[remote moss]

i say months but gametimes probably less than a month or so

[quiet hinge]

lol i'm not confused whatsoever

[crystal bay]

Oh curious, that would be interesting

At least from personal experience I have an extreme loss streak and not even match mmr goes down lol

[remote moss]

poor bastard

[sick temple]

"2 star bracket difference"

(actual 4 jump)

[normal radish]

you didnt even know account age is a variable in mmr, so i think you might be

a lil at least

[crystal bay]

Even when playing with my brothers, 2 3* we have either 5 1/2 - 6* MMR

[lofty parrot]

I am sooooo saaaaad :((((

1. I prob just did my very best Nagant fenning performance in cqc vs a trio with 1x Avto and 1x Auto 5 and 1x Auto 4
   Before u ask...
   YES I was veeeery proud of it! It was just amazing!
   And YES I DID sh!t myself hard! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. I just found out why my Nvidia Highlights often dont record my gameplay
   Seems if u r using google chrome and u have an Tab with Netflix open - It doesnt allow Nvidia to record.... saaaaaaad 🙁
   So no netflix while I look for lobby

[sick temple]

Yes you are confused, the good thing is now you are aware of it and hold no grudges

[quiet hinge]

what makes you say account age is a variable in mmr?

[remote moss]

sucks balls

[normal radish]

the literal patch note explaining it

[sick temple]

xddddddddd

[crystal bay]

Thankfully they are chill with it, and just like doing meme builds

[quiet hinge]

pretty vague, but i'm assuming you mean the 1896 update?

[crystal bay]

otherwise would be hard to convince em to play

[remote moss]

as long as they manage to enjoy the game, nice

[normal radish]

it was done over some patches

but the major change was then

[heavy pewter]

Voicecom and chat not working in lobby anymore?

[quiet hinge]

want to help me find it? or is this just find it and fuck off sorta thing

[normal radish]

you see back when ranks displayed in lobby, they were calculated differently

[lofty parrot]

U r 6*?

[crystal bay]

Yeah

[normal radish]

sure ill help, but i think a mod or one of the orange guys knows better

im a bit tech illiterate when it comes to discord

[crystal bay]

All I know is the confidence aspect of the MMR system

More time spent playing = greater confidence that your MMR is correct

[normal radish]

can you point towards a link or sth if you know any?

[crystal bay]

I’d have to see if I can find it

The game uses an “OpenSkill” system

[remote moss]

it took about 24 hours of game time this event for me to drop from high 6 to low 6 with an average kd of 1 kills per 3 deaths cause revives, but there were other people in the disc saying they dropped all the way to low 5 star from high 6 in just 5 or 6 hours, and they had 3k hours or something

not sure what the kd was, just losses

[normal radish]

kd matters, not match outcome i believe

[crystal bay]

Must be the KD

But yeah that is strange

[remote moss]

yeah

theyve got practically double my hours

[lofty parrot]

Yeah get a number 😄
Like 90% of the 6* players say they can troll and lose like they want - they just dont derank - even if they lose 15 matches with 0 kills

An on the other end
People in Mid MMR trying to climb and making good kda match for match for match
Uprank - winning next 6 matches with good kills - losing 2 matches then - derank....

Many people recall it like dat since they changed the MMR system

[crystal bay]

For sure, I’d have to keep track of my matches and such to more accurately track how it moves me up and down

[normal radish]

i miss the old system, it was simpler

[remote moss]

makes sense though, it corrects so youre not stuck in much harder lobbies for too long, but also makes sure you cant easily derank outside your skill level so games wont be too easy

[normal radish]

search mmr confidence for hunt showdown, it might help. im trying to find it in steam

[lofty parrot]

Just makes sense for the 6*
For the rest its a damn shitfest

[lofty parrot]

Only works with a "good" MMR System

[remote moss]

how bad does it feel? i know you cant club lower mmr players even when youre struggling to win your games to protect them and all that, but not sure how the climb feels

[normal radish]

if only hunt a lil more players the mmr would be implemented much better

[lofty parrot]

Sry I read it 3 times but I am not sure what u wanna say there
Doesnt makes sense to me

[quiet hinge]

im still looking

[remote moss]

how does the shitfest feel to play

lol

[normal radish]

also bring back lobby mmr it was such a flex

[lofty parrot]

Bad
Pretty bad

[remote moss]

no more flexing, too many dodgers

how dare you flex

[normal radish]

you could hide it i believe no?

[remote moss]

well yeah

[lofty parrot]

??? huh?

[remote moss]

you could hide the mmr from yourself, yeah?

[icy elbow]

You couldn’t hide your MMR from your teammates only KD and stats

You could hide MMR from yourself

[normal radish]

oh

[remote moss]

people dodge games based on mmr and kd all the time

[lofty parrot]

Yeah... still dont understand what u were trying to say

An MMR system which is only good for high MMR is NOT a "good" MMR System

[remote moss]

you can hidden stats nowadays but nothing to hide mmr from others until recently

[normal radish]

well that feels like a lil bird with its head in the snow lol

[lofty parrot]

Never noticed in 3 years 😄
I only notice dodges cuz of weather 😄
I do the same

[remote moss]

i dont know how the MMR system functions, so i was hoping you could tell me more about the games other than its bad. the current mmr is designed so you cant get ez games against worse players if youre struggling. that sucks if youre trying to climb because now everyone gets "even" games

[sick temple]

Shame that the devs are pissing at every try of player retention possible

[normal radish]

i think it was abt 4 years ago they removed it

[sick temple]

by obscuring things

[remote moss]

its the price of not having to worry about someone much better than you farming your ass. except small playerbase results in 6 stars still getting free games against 4 stars more than 4 stars can farm 2 stars

its biased upwards more than the other way around

[eager trench]

the mmr honestly just needs a full rework, people who barely even classified as a 5 star before the rework being bunched into real 6* games is definitely a worse feeling than a current "6*" fighting a 4*

[normal radish]

they should remove this lousy ass mmr, instead they add BOUNTY, the more you kill the higher your bounty gets and you get your poster on a leaderboard or sth. i know it probably wouldnt work but itd be kinda cool

[remote moss]

5 stars are included there, they get fucked alongside the 4 stars. i didnt see any 5 stars until matchmaking starteed to die later in the event too, so its not a deliberate thing, just small playerbase

[lofty parrot]

WHO is saying u get "even" games???
I have more games with +6 kills than with 0 or 1
Many people arent struggling cuz the matches are hard
Many are struggling to climb cuz it seems dat deaths count much more than kills
For exsample
1 Death to a lower MMR player should NOT count more than 3 kills vs higher MMR players

Right now people have to be soooooooooo much better than the MMR they are playing in to constantly climb

[normal radish]

event burnout, arc raiders, BF6. they are bound to have a meaningful impact

[eager trench]

my problem with it is the 6* bracket is way too large, a low 6 isnt even remotely close to those upper 6 people. a low 6 is way closer to a 4* and what used to be a 4* before the rework

[lofty parrot]

Welp

[remote moss]

ahhhh, i get it now, thanks

yeah thats fucked

[regal sedge]

hey i serch for german mates

[lofty parrot]

6* getting free games on 4* ? 😄 Sadly dats not true at all xD

[sick temple]

This is because of the MMR changes pre 1896

[remote moss]

as an upper 6, i struggle more against low 6 cause theyre willing to sit around more, lol. id say those fuckers qualify as better than old 4 stars

[sick temple]

But what you say its true

If you are high 6 you will never a see low 6 (or very rarely)

[regal sedge]

hey i need mates (:

[normal radish]

!LFG

[graceful hedge]

Be sure to check out our LFG (looking for group) channels to find a partner:
For PC: #na , #eu, #asia, #oceania, #south-america
For consoles #looking-for-group-console & #looking-for-group-xbox
Regional LFG channels: #ru-поиск-игроков & #br-procurando-grupo

[mortal cove]

Factually untrue, low 6* is the equivalent of what 5* used to be

[normal radish]

its not in german but its a start

[remote moss]

wasnt it? every time matchmaking dies later in events, theres suddenly a wave of 4 and 5 stars, even 3 stars occasionally that come in here to complain about broken matchmaking

[mortal cove]

Old 6* bracket was the best 0.2% of players

[regal sedge]

add me (:

[mortal cove]

Old 5* bracket was the best 2%

[remote moss]

old 6 star was whoever got a damn killstreak, smh

[normal radish]

i am not german sadly :(

[sick temple]

There is no "5" bracket, 5 had several brackets

[eager trench]

idk about "Factually untrue' my friend was a 3* star consistantly and is now low 6

[sick temple]

3.0, 3.5, 4 and 4.5 MMR

2 brackets in there

[regal sedge]

lats talk in a call okey

[mortal cove]

"New" 6* bracket is in line with the old 5*

[sick temple]

or 3 depending on the players

[mortal cove]

Your friend could have also just improved overtime on top of the MMR changes

Skill doesn't tend to be constant

[normal radish]

time to flex

[sick temple]

There was huge bump

to compensate to flat lobbies

[sick temple]

See and this is "old" back then

[lofty parrot]

Before my 1 year break i was hopping between 4 and 5*
I had more rounds vs full 5/6* lobbies than I had vs 4/5*
And still in this time I managed to get my kda up and up
Killing more 6* than got killed by them
And I wasnt the only lower player doing it
So saying 6* are getting free matches is absolutely wrong 😄

[mortal cove]

I'm gonna flex with me 5090 if you keep up that attitude

[quiet hinge]

venom i dm'd you about the mmr changes

[normal radish]

you lil

[mortal cove]

Flex no2 will be the headphones

[remote moss]

wildly different experience from what ive seen, thats pretty cracked

wonder if it has something to do with regional brackets

oh wait

EU

[normal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-6-ac6-ac-pile-bunker-meele-gif-10620406487439158291

[lofty parrot]

Another fact U have to look for in this discussion is the difference in Region
The diff Regions have diff Skilllevels