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i dunno, stams pretty prevalent in these mosin fuckers so they can rotate with that time advantage
i think we know that it's partially based on killing people and dying to people and the mmr of the people you kill and die to
its helpful against ai but its mostly rotation speed, id rather have greyhound or conduit
nah, you can use that too'
firebombs good for denial when youre being fucked in a 1v2
greedy people might push it but now theyre one shot to basically everything
its not like the utility is low, just outclassed by people being addicted to duels
and martini is just sparks but less bullshit free kills on people that took 1 fall dmg
Nice
the fact that you can literally sprint through it without salveskin and not lose a single bar sucks badly
nah, its still low enough to get one tapped by martini
if you lost a bar just running through it, itd be bs to fight, lol
hellfires already some bs
or spistol 
two spistols up close, theyre both getting one tapped and their last teammate is gonna be pissed off
lol
liquid fire bomb just better than regular?
yep
another straight upgrade for no reason
who knows, maybe the duration is lowered though
it aint
cause uh more expensive afdjasfgojgaf 
is balance because more big moeny
Hi y’all
Two sparks pistols?!
hell yeah
I love the one but idk about two
well, sometimes you miss the first wallbang
it's fun being able to shoot two spots in their rough vicinity and probably hit one
Where do I go to find players?
So question, how is it that the game says i've been talking during a match, eventhough i do not pressed my voice to talk button ?
Make sure you're in push to talk and not in voice detect mode
or whatever the name is
There should be a looking for group channel
Ohhhh oki I see it thank you!
i've put everything on mute since my communication goes through Discord, yet it gave that symbol. I've set it on push to talk now and pressed apply... lets see what it will do this time 🙂 Thanks
Maybe it's just a bug too, unsure
Which one of the ranger variants are the best?
Guys, I can't escape the Mosin
😭
It haunts you
Everywhere you go
swift is highly recommended
I mean like ranger, frontier and the other
can't quietly dispose of them into a lake ❌
the ranger and the infantry are regarded as the better ones
What is the whole difference ? Isn't it just range and ammo count
infantry is the best but ranger has different variants so its up to preference
the frontier is.... a gun. i guess the silencer exists but its not good or anything
levering speed, different variants, ammo capacity
I believe the frontier levers faster than the other 2
it does not, the vandal does
So close medium and far ranger?
Vandal faster than full sized?
yes, 168rpm vs 148
the answer is probably centennial.
nice
@remote moss fire bomb with salveskin is funny. people dont expect you to rush them through the doorway you just engulfed in flames at near max health
its the better version of the same poison bomb gimmick
its more accessible with poison bolt on the hand crossbow but not loud enough, need extra noise but fire gives that sick audio debuff
the issue with that poison bomb strat is, it doesn't work if they forget the poison bomb is even there because it's so useless 😭
make sure you taunt them and say "im dropping a poison bomb on this entrance so you cant get out"
add in a "it's just a shame i wont be able to get in either"
its the funny small things, most people have voip auto off but the regulars have it on even if they dont talk
right
how well does fire mask the sound of a bomb fuse
could run through it with surefoot and blow them up
[explosives arent sensitive to fire until thrown]
you think it'd detonate from proximity with your own flaming body the moment its thrown or does it not do that
it does not
depends on headphones, it wont mask the fuse but itll mask the actual distance they are from it?
man, i need to start doing funny strats again
yes now i have the conferme that mmr of clash is the same of bounty normal mode now and i don't know why lol
your visual mmr is delayed from the actual mmr youre at, youre being fooled
no dude , I did it on purpose multiple times to be sure.
i was 6 star on bounty and clash too , a played only clash losing in streak for reach 5 stars ,Then I went into Bounty Hunt, won the match without dying, and actually got a few kills too. at the end of the match have now 5 stars like clash
Somehow they reverted the update where they had separated the two MMRs, and I have no idea why — it’s not even mentioned in the patch notes.
oh shit, an actual bug? this is great, ill spread it so my boys derank
probably
ehh, depends how your last few bounty hunt games went before you got into clash too?
small thing, better to report just to be safe though
want to make sure only the clanners and their ilk manage to derank, dont want the average person getting around to it
Bro, I tested it on purpose several times — started with 6 stars in both modes. I can hit 6 stars in Bounty pretty easily anyway
this is true
It also works the other way around — if you climb back up to 6 stars in Bounty, you’ll have 6 stars in Clash too. They’re clearly the same thing now, and even without playing any more Clash matches, your next one will already show 6 stars no matter what.
it takes a while to "update"
but idk could be true what you are saying idk nor do i care to much clash mmr tbh
The vandal fmj is pretty good if you perk it
and fun!
you will be amazing with the levering, its actually quite nice
and iron eye helps tons
Hello fmj enjoyer
Heya
Is that the little one
Yes
Shorty centy underrated
The little one
Agreed
Centy is for people who cant aim and need a guaranteed 2 tap and faster muzzle velocity
but you dont need that
Yes, the medium one is
Not the shorty 💀
Name a better medium rifle
(medium)
Not a a single one
Outshadows any medium precision/compact rifle (medium)
Its literally the go-to
Underrated as in not very commonly used lmao
In general
I see it all the time in QM loadouts when they are not shotguns
Both stock and silenced
Oh you from xbox
totally different worlds
???
Its pretty self explanatory, no?
I use centy shorty with rival shorty all the time
What you see differs tons not only based on bracket/elo but in PC/console distinction
You can tell me that katana is strong at 6* and I would laugh at you
Sure
but perhaps it is true for console
No
I like the bornheim
i got a few railroad hammer kills today tbh
Its somewhat rare to see someone sacrificing a weapon slot for a melee weapon
and the ones that do just corner camp doors and gets shotgunned afterwards
In the right hands you don’t need bullets
With people that cant aim im sure its a blast my guy
not denying that
im glad you can have fun with melees, I envy you
Some people enjoy certain weapons? Melee=bad aim? Not quite true lmao
but yeah theyre doodybutt for pvp. especially when bayonets and ripostes and talons exist which mean you dont need to give up that weapon slot in the first place
No, melee is actually usable because you dont get instadoomed
Make the proper correlations
Console and pc are different worlds, like it or not
Sensing some passive aggressiveness here 🤔
Never denied it, nor said I liked or disliked the difference
As a console player, you don’t need to tell me both worlds are completely different, it’s quite obvious in every way shape and form
Then why would you argue that centennial shorty is "underrated"
when its the go to medium rifle 😭
Cuz I don’t see it used as much as it should
Of course this depends on your bracket
Im sure you can go at 3* and saber everyone
that is not the case
Centy shorty needs more appreciation
(on console) (for you)
its not an unpopular weapon
Add that and your message becomes normal
Melee works more on console as people are generally more clueless, cant flick, cant aim (headshots) so even a melee rush can work on higher elos, some people dont even appear to have any type of headphones, and since they miss more shots or are unable to get OHK with designated weapons melee weapons become more popular with a simple running strafe
On PC melee is not even a last resort since its trivialized by pennyshot derringer
Either that or you get spear-ed
I tried twin but best I only got quad derringer kills xd, but to be fair the new hammer skin (for me) is the best (wasnt hard to top the 2 that existed tbh)
I was trying so hard for the hammer kill but couldnt get it 🥀
Nobody expects the double katana
Double sheath is insane 💀
gotta run 4 tarot cards like its fuggin Yu Gi Yo
With the Samarai load out of The Infamous Double Sheath
nah malformer stays the goat
is it useful. No, is it funny asf when one katana has to reload you swap to the next. Yes
Meh its pretty vanilla
i hate the golden one
boring aaah reskin
Rah
Nah for clash, as solo just bring shotgun + katana + empress card, run straight into lair and kamakaze yourself and rez and it’s safe with your loadout and wipe lobby 🤣 ez win
Nah nah, Katana = Shotgun
Can you guys give me a loadout? I have not won a match all day
Use what you like
What is your playstyle and your bracket?
never run meta. Meta bunz👍
Double shorty Springfield, one with bleed and one with explosive, you’re welcome
Double Haymaker.
Also, duos o trios?
will never fail
Just two tap people and create fear in your enemies
Trios
Trio’s always
Okay, are you an entry, a rifleman?
And im guessing you starting with a fresh hunter (10 points)
If that means hella aggressive then yes, you ain’t seein me hide in bushes like a bitch
Entry
Double haymaker. Knuckle Knife. Med bag, flare, sun tarot, 2 reg dynamite.
Get something consistent but forgiving if you are feeling bad today
Double hays will forever be top tier
the double haymaker strat is nutty
I’m on budget tho
Specter + some revolver, anything with spam or fmj will do the trick
I mean, romero never fails 😛
Id like to play if half slugs and half penny
Trust, quad conversion
But you can run it half slugs and buck
I was running 1865 with a railroad hammer most of the day, worked fine. probably swap the hammer for an officer or something if you're sane but i always use quad derringer as my followup anyway
Or just buck
FMJ
Or if you are really really poor buck / penny
Not bringing a secondary ammo (besides martini) (and even then) its kinda throwing
Just for the utility its worth
He is on a budget so he wont be running penny ringer
Not necessarily when buck is the best shotgun ammo rn
When LoS is available, romero penny can make just the same as buck
plus more forgiving for him
- extra shots + extra utility
I disagree
On a budget? DOUBLE KATANA
If you can aim with romero slugs are the go to
need to reload? Second katana
at least half
buckshot is definitely the best shotgun ammo rn
Katana isnt precisely "cheap" for a melee, its the most expensive one
110?
Just bring a saber
Facts
I might understand with any other shotgun, but not with Romero of all things
Fuck it quad dolch
Overall, yes
Specially with romero, when you can make headshot matter and play it like a qs rifle
Anything with trueshot bleed is meta
This is true
Im just saying romero slug is a good choice
You say you disagree that buck is the best shotgun ammo. Then you say that overall it's the best shotgun ammo.
doesnt equal to buckshot not being overall the best ammo for all shotguns
ALSO, I’m hoping the new pistol they’re bringing is the Volcanic pistol everyone(including myself) has been asking for, I’m really really hoping
I didnt disagree with that
????
Quad dolch…..1 dolch 640 something……duel dolch……1280……..4 dolch’s…….1540?
oh did i miss a pistol mention? or do you mean the one about primal forces or whatever
huh yknow what i guess the volcanic kinda fits.. volcano.... 🤔
"primal forces"
its going to be a rock thrower aaah
cheap blunt bow
(imagine)
full cain loadout
ooga booga entry frag
It does specifically say watch out for the glint of a new experimental FIREARM
true
but also it says glint which makes me think it either has a scope or they're just referring to the metal gun glinting or something.
Not another scope crytek
Can you still get bad hand from offering?
“Experimental firearm” hopefully testing out the Volcanic (hopefully)
899 more mosins
I was thinking itd be some weird fire weapon or something but i do kinda see it maybe being a nod to the volcanic
People keep ignoring the part about entirely new tactical possibilities.
I’m surprised there’s not a lot of talk about this
A new experimental firearm??? That sounds sick regardless if it’s the Volcanic or not
Mosin that shoot rock
BUT people have been asking and talking about the Volacnic Pistol being added to Hunt for a long time so maybe? Just maybe?
i don't hold that phrasing with a lot of weight tbh, coming from crytek it might just fire fast or oneshot or have aoe, that's what that could mean.
Makes me wanna play red dead again lol
Exactly, in general that lever pistol is a beast
I would agree, if they didn't include the word "entirely". They're clearly putting emphasis on that.
this fucking scares me it can either be amazing or completely ruin shit
A levering double barrel pistol??? Perfect for Hunt
Because such thing wont ever be on hunt
most "advanced" thing you can learn is rotating and counter rotating
besides the boring adading
Or flying
magic runes carved into the bullets that give it homing 👍
its time to come to terms that no major groundbreaking thing is gonna take place
It can either be the amazing Volcanic, or a fucking flamethrower I keep seeing people talking about 💀
We actually gonna get to dig tunnel with shovels now
volcanic is a bad gun tbh
first make da shovel purchasable
Disagree HEAVY
semi automatic mag fed Dragonbolt launcher
That mf is a mini rifle 💀
I feel like I remember reading a report of a guy trying to off himself with one back in ye old days but it didn't work cuz it was a mantle piece at best
I mean... it sucked in RDR2 it sucked in real life but it would be cool here
its a game after all
"My zombie vodoo game on louisiana 1896 that has japanese ronins is actually realistic"
Just gimme a m4
That’s cuz RDR2 had the Navy revolver 💀
No, navy is only on RDO/mods
It’s in online
Broken ass gun for the sweat stains that live on that game lmao
it's obviously just gonna be an m1911 cmon guys
Obviously 💀
so it competes against the dolch (forgot the rdr2 name) and the m1900 or whatever it was called
It’s in online
Never forgot that??? lmao
RDO stands for read dead online dude
So then why compare it to the navy?
Their are totally two weapons subclasses with 2 different ammo pools
i hope it was in the porta potties, those things are everywhere
pistols have less ammo and are way more spammy (duh), also have different uses on pvp
They’re* and because the Volcanic is good, but the Navy is better, you can make anything work if you’re good enough, instead of using the Meta
Ight just gimme a tank it’s only 20 years into the future anyway
The volcanic isnt good, its the worst pistol in both RDR2 and RDO
Bro the cattlemen way worse
Brother spelling mistake at 4 am on my 5 tongue isnt the flex you think it is
This dude is sleeping
And what is the cattleman my guy
The starter revolver
REVOLVER
The starter pistol lmao
Eh same thing it’s too late
Erm actually 🤓👆🏽
You seem pretty lost
Firearm, sidearm, pistol, revolver, same fucking shit
No, they arent the same thing
The are different subclasses of weapons and draw from a different ammo pool
This guy 💀
Dude u don’t care same thing
Ok bro, you’re right. Sorry 💀
Bro
…
Ain’t no one care about that
Then why you argue when you arent in the right, lmao
If I can hold with one hand it’s a pistol
if you dont care, git
Damn I didn’t know saying pistol and revolver meant I didn’t play RDO
Exactly
Not by the game standard
How about we get back to Hunt
That’s crazy bro
In general as a weapon
And take RDO to offtopic
need the redeemer tbh
Yeah sadly the game doesnt care about "in general as a weapon" and pistols works as pistols and revolvers work like revolvers
It correlates to what we were talking about earlier which was about hunt, we’re discussing
Fr take that to off topic I want THE BROWNING 50 CAL in hunt by the end of the day..
But no longer. Now its an argument.
Gimme the 50 cal
Sorry I use pistols and revolver to describe a firearm, obviously talking about each one I use the right term, but as a whole, a firearm is a pistol
Gimme the browning 50 cal crytek it’ll be good for the game I swear
You are missing the point, you were comparing that to the navy, and then the other guy to the starting revolver, which are both revolvers in game, that classify different and have many distinctive attributes
I could say that the (what would be the krag) and the springfield are both rifles
Bro ion care let’s move on it ain’t that deep
However they are listed in game differently, and have their different attributes & different uses (same as pistols & revolvers in RDR2-RDO)
It’s a game
(for example, the sparks doesnt have damage falloff, but springfield does) (RD)
Anyways, back to the ORIGINAL convo, I’m hoping the “experimental firearm” is the Volcanic pistol
It fits hunt and was made before 1896
Would be dope however the browning 50 cal
Fuck it, 1911, that thing would destroy people
Love that little gun
Gimme a 3 dollar black powder gun I have to load for 39 seconds
And we will be square
I was gonna say Blunderbuss, but we have nitro
Sorry. Elephant Rifle 🤓
But seriously, regardless I’m excited to see the new pistol they’re bringing
What, how did we figure out it's a pistol
And you were talking about being passive aggresive lol, I just wanted to clarify that in RDR2/RDO pistols & revolvers are totally two different things, two different weapon classes that have different uses and have their specific attributes for both pve & pvp, instead you act like a douche for no reason; ironic
“Firearm”
TInfoil moment
Firearm is js a handheld gun
Unless you think it means exclusively one handed because it's firearm not firearms 
controller died mid fight
RIP
I bet someone felt like they outplayed the f out of you
rip
now im guessing the controller died too XD
permanently hahaha
My two random teammates about to take the elevator down into the occupied boss lair at Pitching:
"Good luck on your clutch!"🤣
is the redeemer still only used as a primer/eidolon limb breaker?
even though it was shit compared to nukor(primer) and rubico(limb popper)
Shoulda gone with them. A real hunter dies fighting with his comrades.
How dare they leave a partner behind
you didnt run away did you...?
nah I pushed the closest entrance
okay so you didnt try to extract without them
they traded 2 for 1 and I got 1 died to the remaining 2(they rezed)
good man 
if I exclude the nest the last 14 boon areas I've searched in a row have not had an xp boon
why crytek
naah.. i disagree 😅 overall team MMR is what matters and yes, he was with a MMR3 and MMR1 in a team so sure, team MMR was low and on my level, but I was MMR6 myself for quite some time so his skill wasn't that much of a shocker for me. I understand that he didn't have to be a strong MMR6, he could've been weak MMR6 or strong MMR5 but definitely not 4 or 4.5 how you called it
Got killed by a small dynamite thru multiple boulders :c
Guess I'm off for the night
Why does this game have tkills?
Any reports dont get taken action as well.
Frustrating 🤦♂️
!report
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if you have proof of it and send it to support, action will be taken if it was a legitimate intentional tk
Friendly fire can be frustrating but the game is much better for it
need to remove the friendly fire dmg reduction 💯
I'm gonna be getting more headshot kills on my team mates dx
funny enough, friendly fire does not have zone modifiers. a nitro to the head/torso/feet all do the same damage
So stupid
I had two teammates whom i revived and won the game but they tkilled me for fun
I didnt find it funny though
Yeah its only once in a while

Its almost like when you play with random teammates, and with the game player base on console, you go against teammates play together and sweat. So either you get teammates who comparatively are worse than you, and youve to carry (or) ppl like this (or) one teammate who's similar skilled. Either way, playing with random teammates is harder on bounty clash.
On bounty hunt, its way better and easier to win and you do other stuff too.
And most of the time, randoms run free hunters and you go against mosins and lebels
did they pick you up?
if so, you are kinda making a mountain out of a molehill
as long as you got up and extracted, literally nothing negative happened except you spent a few extra seconds to a few minutes longer in the match than needed
a year-ish ago when i got a random that loaded in with romero free hunter, he killed nearly half the lobby, then called us over to him after he started burning himself, pinged the ground under him, burned out and instantly dc'd
my guess is that he was literally only playing for pvp and didnt care for anything else
he could have been an ass and tk'd us and then did that so no one got anything
but he didnt so honestly, as long as you extract, ggs
if you've never played with friends and extracted while you are all 1hp from constantly tk'ing eachother and redskull reviving, then you've never played hunt the fun way
west?
mhm
yea... the unfortunate reality of low pop servers
meanwhile people in here earlier were saying this was impossible
in low pop its definitely possible, hell it can even be worse than that
wheres all our OCE players at
We aren't real
hunt as been dry latley
been really hard finding people to play with
prolly cus arc raiders and bf6 just came out
yeah i noticed after arc raiders released lol
hunt is one of those eternial pillars
i imagine arc raiders will be kind of a flash in the pan game
Oce has always been dead.
Always has been and always will be
Theyre different enough to coexist
And its definitely no flash in the pan
I tried arc but honestly the combat sound was super unreliable. I'll pass until they address it or it's on a big sale
good lord
Nope they didnt pick me up lol. They killed me far away from the extraction after we killed everyone, and burnt me with a flare gun.
"in the last months alone" i dunno, could mean the last 60 months 🥀
and then just left you dead?
idk kinda having flashbacks to vigor
if so then i hope you have some video/pictures so you can send them directly to support to ensure they get proper punishments(itll be a few days ban minimum)
arc raiders seems like that game that everyone is obsessed with for 2 weeks then you never hear about it again
Haven't people been excited for Arc Raiders for like a year?
When was the first playtest?
first one was years ago
There was one in May and then the server slam was earlier in October
i feel like every other team in clash has a cheater on thier team lmao
it sucks how people will cry and beg for them to be more open about how they're doing this when all that'd do is make the cheaters more powerful
Yup
Wild
Yup, i do have them
I haven't had a team nearly that rough in years
Consoles a smaller player base so you run into idiots often
Fair
Last one I can remember in that vein random mate got upset about something, don't remember what, and decided to to try to kill me and I put him down😅 this was before team voice so communication was much worse
can the south americans like not come to us east lmao
Honestly the game is hard at the start the the robots kind of fuck everything up
And there’s not enough PvP most of the time
I bought it and it made me want to play hunt showdown after not really playing it for a few weeks.
How much money do you spend on blood bonds on a regular basis?
No no no, I paid for that
Oh like you just bought it?
I have never seen Crytek use the "You wouldn't steal a car"-font, so I say no?
This is from a video
Not crytek
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THIS is from crytek
What video?
"Hunt: Showdown 2026 Roadmap BREAKDOWN: Primal Firearm, Inferno & Shredder Comeback, Bigger Lobbies & More"
#huntshowdown1896 #huntshowdownnews #huntshowdownroadmap #weboftheempress #pvpve
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Hunters, we finally have clarity.
Crytek has released a roadmap for Hunt: Showdown, laying out where the gam...
What areas are hot and is it okay to have a little lag where I want to play. My lobby is literally empty. Matches aren’t coming for me
It must be my level…
Yeah lag is alright
Sucks a bit and will kill you a decent amount but still playable
Oh if you're just going from east to west then yeah go ahead
That's only like 50 ping that's still low
Oh thanks. Heading solo sadly finally found one so I’ll do it next round.
west is always empty for me
here is the actual roadmap site that crytek gave us. https://www.huntshowdown.com/news/roadmap-2026-looking-back-into-the-future-of-hunt-showdown-1896
Not heard about this person, I assume they are a partner or?
i hope they fix the bileweaver launching when they get readded.
when they lunge you and you go flying upwards
Bileweaver weapon, you just throw spiders at people
Wish they increase the launch, I am ready to be part of the Bileweaver Spaceprogram!
Hunt crazy cat lady variant
right, make it only survivable with catalyst kiteskin
!droplist
They nuked it into oblivion, and honestly, the game is much better for it
Could have just made it based on the direction you’re facing. Easy fix that makes countering it actually require some cognition
I definitely don't miss flashes, but they overnerfed them.
They should make it lootable at least from sadlebags like that it gets some rotation in game at least
Eh I just switched to bees. Just as effective
Ehhhh
Bees are usually a minor annoyance
Nah, bees are good but nowhere near the powerlevel of old flashbomb
They are better in some ways and worse in others
rlly hope they stop adding 4shots when they swap to a seasonal system.
Old flashes were essentially a free kill item
Flashbomb trip mine when 
Flashbomb arrows for bow!
With a lot of ifs but if you landed it sure
Flashbomb beetles!
Bees are often a free kill too lol
If the target had los, if they were close enough if they were in the room
If it did, the person who tossed it had to throw so hard not not kill the blinded person
The range was fairly short especially outside
Or counter flash 'em, I did that some times
we are NEVER getting past 4 mmr now 😼
Tbf, they weren't outside items
I finally got Five-Ace hand
But bees working fine outside
They were best in pushes and room clearing
Places with tight areas that you could toss them around and for people to get stuck running into while blinded
It's fake
Right right and in tight spaces hive also does well, tracks to players shows you where they are, gives a massive advantage in that engagement
Bees are so easily swatted away tho
nonono. flash bomb arrows for chu ko nu!
blind blind blind blind blind blind blind blind blind again
You have to swap to flare for that, or melee. Both are plenty of opening to push
this is why you need to push after you throw a hive bomb.
they can't swat the bees and shoot you at the same time @random nimbus
Or I just ignore them and blast you as you push in. Worst case I rotate as they chase me and punch them away in 2 seconds
yeah
which is why you have to use it in conjunction with a high damage weapon like a sparks
even if they swat the bees away
And I chase you with a shotgun and 1 tap you lol
the bees will still confirm ticks of dmg
I do that all the time
the best use case I have for bees is throwing it on mfs who are pushing me
so they gotta waste time swatting said bees
or they take like 25 damage
1 tapped by a gun
Or I just shoot you with mine because I've got 4 shot and the bees tickle
its moreover the fact that bees
- obscure vision
- do enough to put you in the 1 tap range of most guns
Bees is a skillcheck
Lol ok, I don't have to find you, the bees reveal your location, it is an advantage and makes pushes much easier I don't know what you're on about
If you ignore them, then the hive bomb user can hear that you are ignoring them. They can wait for you to start swatting, then push in. Or just capitalize on the fact that you are probably now a one shot kill to their rifle.
To your second point, rotating away from a throwable is the counter to every single one. Not a special counter about hive bomb. Throwables are used specifically to get someone to rotate, or be punished. Or both.
I can think of very very few situations where bees actually gave me a problem. The ones I can think of were actual hives sending like 5 swarms at me because they have no cooldown
when you get tagged by a sparks and you see the bees coming 😆 😆 😆
1 hp momento
Lol yeah
Or hear it being thrown behind the cover you're in
Sounds like your opponents are bad at cqc 😅
like I said b4, the best use case for bees imo is to throw it on guys pushing you
they either
- commit to the push and take enough damage to be 1 tapped by long ammo rifles
or - swatt the bees away with a melee, eliminating the usage of their gun temporarily
Flashes didn't have nearly as much the same counter to rotating because they armed damn near instantly. Bees aren't slow by any means, but lets be real; are any of us consistently bringing bees or are we just using them because we looted it?
That's a good use but I much prefer using them to cover pushes
I bring a hive bomb every single game
oh dang
I seriously think you are one of the extreme minority in that
🤷 possibly
i lost the railroad hammer animation reward
I bring them with high damage weapons such as the 1865 carbine because I know for sure that I can one shot them to the body after the bees hit them at all, or the other way around [shoot then bees] and the bees also distract them and make them much less likely to hear me, while I have a massive indicator where they are.
I get a metric truckload of value from them
I've gotten loads of kills doing this
A lot of people didn't bring flashes either because you looted them so much, but they had much higher value
Bees are like the one tool ingame you can use to confirm damage while still retaining the use of your gun
Pre nerf I also brought one flash every game
Are there loadouts with something other than spitzer, dolch, recov/regen and two ammo boxes?
I personally would just bring a hellfire.
I literally 1:1 swapped to hive bombs
you said it yourself, that's a personal decision
Similar arming time, and the 50 burn damage benefits a lot more weapons with a massive radius
Or a sound cue
It just has like a 7m blast radius lol
If people find use in bees, all well. I don't think they're worth it.
And that's not even factoring in shadow
yeah shadow is dumb
I specialize in close quarters fights so I am a bit of an anomaly for sure.
But I feel like I am run off of a big option when I don't have one
Or flare pistol
Tbf, I think most other consumables will do that job better than bees
Or fusees
No?
fusees and flares instantly kill bees
requires people to react, swap weapon, shoot, then swap weapon again and aim at you. tons of time to push off of the bomb.
less than a second ain’t a ton of time
Every other throwable is significantly worse to use while pushing
Plenty of time to eat buckshot
You get roughly 2 seconds of push time if you're up against someone decent at the trigger
factoring in reaction time and the time it takes to aim from the bees to you again, specifically reaction time, it aint bad
It's a better push tool if you're in a duo/trio and your teammate can respond immediately
2s is an eternity in cqc
I’ve never had a situation in which I would rather have had bees than literally any explosive
cause you need to play around them specifically
Only time I've ever seen bees make a difference is when people panic. I never see them do much otherwise
Explosives don't work in cqc well, they just fall back 1 room while watching the door
Nah, I like bees more than explosives tbh, dauntless can make quick work of your dynamites
If you don't precook
and stop you from pushing
Yup
And if I cook 'em I open myself up to being pushed
I've killed so many people cooking grenades
That's a positioning skill issue tho
And you can't toss them and push while they are flying
If you cook where you can be pushed, you screwed up
That's all of cqc
Any group can be pushed at any time
You are close
I'm talking cqc yeah, I can certainly chuck 'em in compounds
That's very heavily dependent on where it is. If I'm throwing it through a Crack in the wall you can't immediately get to me from, you aren't pushing me
And you aren't getting to me either then
I know, the frag is.
Surefoot on the other hand makes cooking bombs that much better
The sound of cooking a dynamite is so loud😅
And if you walk away, I get to push in and take position while you run
Nope
It is, I go aggro mode when I hear it, wanna gun those chefs down!
And possibly just kill someone because explosives indoors are notorious for killing through tiny cracks
You likely aren't going to risk being close enough to the explosion that I'm following in on. It's a huge gamble depending on where the explosive comes in at
The best thing you can do with explosives in cqc is force someone to rotate to an area you can see
Or rotate away from the choke to let me in
You would have to risk that same proximity...
Not if you're inside holding a angle you have to expose yourself to push at. My teammates will blast you
goddamn , more hunter per matches in 2026 new steps to hunt of duty ?
Now you need teammates to make this work 🤷
You gonna get 7th partied now son!
? This is a team focused game. Of course you have to factor in other people besides just the one with the consumables
You can push in behind your bees that come for me and get blasted by my teammate
Counting on randoms for coordination is suicide
Who said randoms?
I'm out have fun eating buckshot. Hope to see you in the bayou😅
You mean the walking campfires?

Crazy that my duo knew about the roadmap before me
That's how much I've fell off Hunt
Woah
The best fate for solo players: being a campfire
Linux player will die next year i guess?
what have I done to deserve this
Forcing me to stand over you for when you decide to go 'I live, bitch'
More Hunters per match ? They want to kill their game ? Map is too smol already. 
can't a girl get a second chance at life?
Technically you can get a third if the second one doesn't expire early
idk if it's too small now but who's to say whether or not they'll make a bigger map for more players
i dont understand this either, at the time they increase that, we will hear shot's out of every corner.
just be happy that I can't revive more than once
You used to....
If you have the empress card, you can
ya I saw some old gameplay and yikes what were the devs thinking
an*

That's just it: they weren't.
The keyboard failed
Thus i blamed the keyboard than my mind
:stuff
Capital I*
ngl I would have probably done the same in their shoes


btw I must admit that I have sinned and have grown a liking to the mosin
not as big a liking as to the vetterli but a liking nonetheless
And a meta addict is born 
Mosin users
Man
I like it but
Ehhh, its hard to explain
Its good but its kinda overused
Im a filthy sinner as well
What is your sin
it feels responsive in a weird way but eh vetterli and lemat carbine are still my babies
I use them when I steal them
I love the henry ironside,I can’t deny it
Berthier?
The french one
Lebel?
The least sweaty repeating long ammo is the mako tbh
You're one step closer to becoming sweaty
is that in the doc holliday kind of sweaty or a basement dwelling nerd kind of sweaty
Latter.
The Mosin has good sights, it sounds great, and the bolt action of is satisfying, I get it
I do feel dirty using it tho...
It ends fights quicker than most guns
As long as you don’t use spitzer on base mosin i say ur fine
I don't, I also only use them when I steal them from other people
Spitzer is for when you decide to sweat without changing your bedsheets
I do however, use spitzer if I also steal them
I used spitzer for a bit and it's just so cheap
That’s a no duh there
You pen everything and barely have to lead at most engagement ranges
Lerii i have a question
Yes.
You gotta try every weapon in the game, every ammo type. And spitzer certainly makes it easier...
Are those bunnies your pets
Also yes
There adorable
I used to have bunnies they're such little happy fellas
I have a Weiner dog name oliver
The youngest loves to lay on my bed where I sleep at and get FUR everywhere
Lol
I had a third but she passed a few years ago
She was extremely affectionate and jealous
Sorry ti hear that
It is what it is. Unfortunately she had a seizure at the vet
cars, doggos, rattos, hampsters, bnuys, all are super cute!
I like some birds too
birbs too!
Like African Greys
Gn everyone

i could easily see lebel being meta
for long ammo bolt actions, it has the most rounds before reload and highest velocity and still up there in damage
Oh it's still a top tier gun
The velocity difference sadly isn't that relevant between the other bolties, and the berthier getting super buffed has stepped on it a bit
It's always primarily competed with the mosin
Isn't lebel spitzer used in the meta? 1 more boolet than mosin, and higher velo + better drop range
They have the same ammo, and the velocity difference is too small to really make a difference. The drop range is better, bit it's like 5-10m iirc
Pretty sure mosin drop is 130m and lebel is 140m
Nah, lebel has 10+3 and mosin 5+7
Did they change it to be off reserve?
Could have sworn it was static numbers at first
what makes me not understand it is that it doesnt have much of a downside though
no clip reload ig, but you get so many rounds before reloading anyway you can easily wipe a server with no reloading at all
The damage was the biggest thing, really. 4 more damage doesn't sound like a lot but it mattered a lot with damage retention and two tap consistency
The reload is sloooow, you could put 5 mosin rounds without the stripper clip by the time you've put 2 into the lebel
sure but you dont even need to reload with it
especially not in active combat where the reload time actually matters
Plus you just gotta do partials for the lebel
I think the old sights had something to do with it too
Lebel sights were super flat and blocky
Yeah, the sights really aren't as clean as the mosin, still aren't imo
yea people still haven't adjusted accordingly to the sight change
They're better now
Mosin just has better sights for snappy shots
I'm really liking the cent changes tho, them sights are great
Lebel just kinda got left behind.
i cant use cent at all. i miss every shot with that thing
It's not as good as the mosin, the berthier has the sheer ammo capacity and now more damage, and the krag outpaces it.
definetely doesnt need a buff though
I love how everyone has some cursed guns they can't use
Oh 100%. I still want them all nerfed
I'll be honest, it's weird how a carbine that uses the same ammo type as the full rifle has more damage than said full rifle
what's yours
It's bullshit
Uses literally the exact same bullet
Berthier
Berthier does feel clunky
interesting
And drilling
I can agree with the drilling
Either I drop people in 2 quick shots, or more often than not I hit the first and miss the second.
And that damn bead on the drilling hatchet
Bruh that thing is my bane...
Looks noice.
Don't lick it
Feels like you have more chances to hit imo.
Ehh...
For me it just blocks my target
Maybe it's easier to lead in cq
Especially at longer ranges
To home in on the target
It’s most likely wrong, but it feels like when the head touches the ball it’s a hs.

Shoot, the ball is bigger than their head sometimes XD
It IS a good gun
In everyone elses hands but mine 
I had a great round with it tho, mostly due to its shotgun but still
It’s a cheating tool sometimes in mine.
I'm too inconsistent with it
I clapped so many cheeks with it. And dealt so many illegal headshots.
Dumdum is nice for pressure but not even required.
The velocity hit is oof
I should give more try to the fmj/hv...
Special ammo on it drops its velo down so much
Goes from 530ms to like 380ms
ah thinking of zombies again are we
finally more ppl in matches!! and which smartasses disliked my suggestion half year ago about that. what u say now
i like it
I still don't like it
jk, I haven't seen ur suggestion
I am sure that is gonna make for more fair matches :)))))
That said, don't mind an extra team for trios
5 teams is a good number
If there's more people in duos that's gonna make it hellish to play, you can already get 6th partied by some solo wookie 💀
was too for duos
Trios i would like for another party, since if you down a trio you kinda know what's left for you
Esp if you hear a gunfight in the distance
Lmao, you know that you changed your flash bomb to gray and also make it too long to prime no one even actively equip it
I remember coming back to hunt, wanting to melee rush flash bomb and I was just looking at my enemy for a good amoung of seconds cause the flash bomb took too long to prime xD
Eyup, also the removal of single bounty means that the game needs another team much more.
That said, I do think people really misunderstand that: more players = more action.
When in reality as we can see with duos just meant more campy meta.
When triple bounty
Wait, they're removing single bounty?
37 dislikes god damn it.
and im sure ppl pretty rarely playing in 3s who pressed dis
because its so obvious trouble
to not understand
We haven't had it for a long time now. There is ALWAYS a bounty + wild target or bounty + bounty.
Ohhh, like that
I mean, that wildcard is half a bounty, most people chase the main one in my experience
Hey, mostly trio player bc duos became so fucking bad when they added a 6th team.
I agree that trios can use a 5th team, but not a 6th team as you suggested :)
Trios could use more people ye
I bet they do this so that there's less money to go around
Can't wait for the already VERY FAIR AND VALID deployable ammobox, become even more meta bc we just flat out need more bullets.
Yeah, fighting off the 4th team only for the 5th that has been waiting for the shooting to stop to roll in
6th optional coz if 5 it means that some squad must kill TWO squads but if 6 that means u just can have 1v1 1v1 1v1
Nobody's dying cuz nobody knows who's on what team and people just constantly ress each other 
yeah, but reality is that the odds of getting 3rd partied (if not 4th partied) increase to such degree that people start becoming really campy and ratty.
Case and point, duos going from 5 teams to 6 teams.
that scenario doesnt exist. its either everyone except 1 or 2 teams fight at once or 1 team fights every other team one after another.
hunt players are very simple, they either want fights so badly the bounty might as well not exist or they only want to fight when they know they have an advantage.
It's gonna be interesting to see how many more, 15 isn't divisible by 2
thats too
Wait, they're adding more players and getting rid of single bounty?
Sure, but we can agree that duos doesn't need more people.
So making duos 12 people (10 is the dream) and 15 for trios seems fine
Again, we haven't had single bounty for months
hypothetical
how dream can be 10 ppl!!!!
I mean, technically yes because Bileweaver bounty
Because duos played MUCH better with 10 people
And wild target
No because there is ALWAYS a wild target if there is not two bounties
Yeah, if there's no bileweaver token there's a wild target
That was changed like.... 6 months ago
I wasn't playing much or following updates then
Got burnt out
Well now you know :V If there is a single bounty, there is a wild target somewhere
So you can have wild target and Bileweaver bounty?
If there's single bounty, either bileweaver bounty OR wild target always
That's effectively single bounty to me
Okay. This topic cant be discussed properly coz its on every different taste. For me, honestly even 20 ppl wont hurt game coz u wont face them all, they will fight each other. This just fun, every location will have sense and device and even safe play. At now game in condition nonstoppable shift run with pray for fight atleast 5 ppl. 15 cant be divisible and sounds not fair in confrontations in theory
It's two bounties tho 
Hence why I said effectively, not literally. No boss to kill for it is just single bounty in terms of how I approach the map
and third bounty is trash
Didn't they buff the money those single bounties give?
It is not about different taste, it is about experience. We have the duos changes to back that up.
More players in a match leads to more passive, ratty and campy gameplay because the odds of getting 3rd and 4th partied increase exponential.
Or was that before they made Rotjaw give 2 tokens
No, they made them less attractive
All bounties have the same value now
I know small bounty doesn't really matter anymore for money, but I could have sworn they buffed the money wild target bounties gave
Idk. I just worked graveyard shift so my mind is running on fumes.
and less players in match leads to agressive, push/nobrain play coz its just boring. For 4k hours im afraid to count how many games was without ppl
They buffed it so they are worth as much as a single bounty token from a regular boss
Without people? In what way?
that doesnt make them less attractive... but they did indeed make them less attractive... for people playing duo in trio and solo in whatever since the single doesnt have the bonus applied to it.
Tho wildtarget gives rolls for scarce traits
maybe it was my bad english but i mean 2/3 kills for 20 minutes is not good experience. That was the main problem of hunt for all time. But for beginners hunt is difficult so they want less players coz game hard in general
Sure, but that is just the nature of the game.
I don't think you gonna see more kills with more players rather than you just getting shot in the back of the head while fighting a team.
I mean Im winning games
And also people very much love Hunt to have the quite parts too.
All action is not why most people like hunt and for those who does, they have clash
but all what map can give me is two or 3 ppl for kill
i dont want an overload of players because most hunt players have such miserable playstyles... at least up top
what do u mean with miserable playstyles
Campy/sniper waiting for people to fight to 3rd party
like i said earlier, they wait for the advantage and dont engage in any meaningful gameplay unless they have that advantage
Usually after they get a kill
they are literally just a waste of space until you step on their bush or stand still for a nono-second because you havent heard anything for the past 10 minutes
Somebody gets headshot and suddenly you have 3 frags flying in as they push like road ragers
If there 20 players, campers will be distracted by more players. so thats not about making situation worse
I dont have motivation to use flying bug coz there is no ppl
They will camp more because the chances of being popped by a rat goes up
that shit is so cancer... especially when it wasnt even them that got the kill and they have been doing nothing but waiting
One of the most annoying parts of duos is approaching boss compound and being shot by 3 teams all hiding from each other. They all focus you because you're the only one moving
true hunt is when you play the game. not when you crouch into a bush just outside of 150m and have a tab open watching netflix on the side waiting to hear a death yell.
or, of course, hearing someone approach your bush
I urge you to go play duos for a couple of weeks :)
Duos is miserable
Honestly i don't see them much at all, i dunno what u talking about. Maybe at 6 stars u just cant running through coz ppl can shoot and thats ok and inevitable
not about more/less players
more players means higher chances people do it since no one wants it to happen to them
more players more chances to every rat be found
Or more rats to find you
pff. positions must exist
20 people duo matches with 6 solos self-ressing 
its like a kill or be killed situation; you either become the rat or die to the rat. right now its... not completely horrible in trios but adding in even 3 more possible people is just gonna make it so much worse.
i dont even want to think about 20 people in a lobby
It's annoying enough getting a spawn fight only to get popped by a third trio that came to join the fun
Think trios can survive a 5th team.
Duos cannot survive a 7th team tho.
or that has been there the whole time just watching and waiting
And that's not even a ratting situation, just an excess of players in one place
It's why I dislike clash.
Too many players in one place. It just becomes a giant clusterfuck
Its funny how u think that more players will make map more silent
maybe if they make spawn fights less common and dont put 3+ teams close together ever
In duos, 100% will.
And we're not even factoring in solos
Dunno, don't mind wild spawn fights, but I understand it is not what most people are into.
less common spawn fights. i still want them but another team would make them more common and that is bad. 3+ in 1 area right off spawn just shouldnt exist.
Throw a few more of those in a match and it's turbo rat season
Because that was what LITERALLY happened when we went from 5 teams to 6 teams in duos.
I'm tired of 3 way corner spawnfights
We have empirical proof.
I'm also sick of getting corner spawns all the danm time
yeah it can be tough.
But dunno haven't seen a whole lot of that the past year or so.
Tho it have gone up lately.
Maybe first couple of minutes ppl can be accurate, but one shot and u revealed to others. And its still hunt in concept not apex legends
May I introduce you to: Silencers
more ppl more fights its logic
A very common weapon found in duos
Once you're revealed, you're suddenly the target of 3 teams ratting


