hunt-general

[hexed valve]

Im just afraid for the next update🤦🏼‍♂️

[fallen meteor]

why is it locked

[icy elbow]

you need the battle pass to do it

[fallen meteor]

this battle pass is shit though

[icy elbow]

ok

well that’s how it works

[whole mist]

I like the skins

[mild flower]

Honestly wouldn't mind this

[lofty sinew]

doesn't the BP have a few token free rewards on it. i forget

[mild flower]

Anything to reduce player dilution

[icy elbow]

yeah it has some free rewards

[whole mist]

It has a little bit of free stuff iirc

[fallen meteor]

the bone skins are really ugly and also the webbing skins imo

hunter skins are okay

[whole mist]

I’ve gotten the past 2-3 passes for free. Been saving up all my bbs from these challenges

[remote moss]

duos is a worse way to experience hunt so thats cool

dunno if there are people that like it because its more 3rd party though

[lofty sinew]

i like it because team fights are easier to finish. they're neater than trio

and i don't mind the 3rd party aspect so much I guess

[whole mist]

Ik the discord and threads are the entire community. But ik loads of people only played duos back in the day cuz they couldn’t invite a random 3rd

[lofty sinew]

but also would not shed any tears if duos disappeared.

particularly with rando 3rd now

[remote moss]

lets ignore the 90% of players who dont interact with the community

delete reddit, twitter

lets gooo

[fallen meteor]

who cares what reddit or twitter users think

[lofty sinew]

you may as well say who cares what anyone thinks

[fallen meteor]

steam and discord are for gamers

so only their opinions matter

[remote moss]

i dont know about steam forums

[fallen meteor]

but only if they agree iwth me

[remote moss]

yes

steam forums, theres a constant plethora of skill issue players everywhere

[lofty sinew]

steam forums are the yahoo answers of gaming

[fallen meteor]

oh

well actually

why don't they just do more in game surveys

[remote moss]

thatd be too good and accurate compared to only posting it on random social medias

cant have that

[lofty sinew]

You can sometimes find useful info on game reddits. I have never come across anything worth reading on steam forums

[remote moss]

reddit, it feels like theres a reasonable fight in opinions, right

[fallen meteor]

maybe youtube community posts then

[remote moss]

you hop on steam forums, they just go "nuh uh" and got people up their

you know

[whole mist]

Steam forums has loads of just….depressed sad doom posts

[lofty sinew]

even in game surveys are not answered by everyone. People don't even vote in their own elections if they're not forced to.

[deft panther]

Steam forums are literally just 90% people complaining that they can't run a game, while posting their laptop specs and screaming that they spent money on something that looks like real life and can't run it on their toaster.

None of it is ever actually helpful for the game and people who want to look into buying stuff

[lofty sinew]

It doesn't mean those people don't have relevant opinions, but if you're too lazy and disinterested to provide those opinions i think it's fine to ignore them

[fallen meteor]

I think the devs should release 1 dlc skin per week

or 2 weeks

[lofty sinew]

you know you'd just get a copy paste with minor variations if they did that right

[fallen meteor]

it will give them more money to make the game better

[fallen meteor]

i wouldn't mind

there are lots of female hunter skins that I would like as male hunter variant

[fallow epoch]

2 uppercut headshots first game back ez

[untold stag]

do i lose 2 bars when downed if i have the devil torat card? Because I had the devil card and I got downed, i only lost 1 small bar.

[lofty sinew]

did you actually use the card

[untold stag]

yes

[fallen meteor]

maybe you had that other perk

that gives you a bar back

[fallow epoch]

lol i kept my 6star mmr after not playing 3 years and not really playing in like 5

[untold stag]

i used the card cuz i like the devil card

[fallen meteor]

this game copied that new anime

[remote moss]

yeah that one new anime

[fallen meteor]

with the card names

[remote moss]

yugioh?

yeah yugioh

[fallen meteor]

lord of mystyeries

[remote moss]

i got so many words for you

unfortunately, this is a safe space

[fallen meteor]

you can google it if u dont believ eme

[remote moss]

no, ive seen it

just

lol

[urban steppe]

I believe in the heart of the tarot cards yugi
Send this mf to the shadow realm

[remote moss]

lucky there aint seal of orichalcos up in here

[urban steppe]

Lol

[lofty sinew]

that new anime invented tarot cards hey. interesting

[fallen meteor]

in the first episode theres a girl and she has cards with the names like fool and sun and stuff

[lofty sinew]

there is no mmr decay over time so.. expected

[remote moss]

you are the ultimate troll alt, you win

[fallen meteor]

i think hunt showdown was inspired cuz its very popular in china

[urban steppe]

Hunt copied anime because katana

[remote moss]

you must be the reincarnation of that martini guy

[potent arrow]

boy this sure feels fair

[fallen meteor]

katana is in real life too

[lofty sinew]

heh a 6* with a 3* match MMR

[fallen meteor]

cards with these names is very specific tbh

but its fine to copy

[lofty sinew]

if this is a joke you've already killed it. if it's not I worry for you

[urban steppe]

This is the norm sadly
I see a lot in my three and four star lobby

Solo 6 has a mmr of three
Proceeds to wipe the fully lobby

[ebon horizon]

Hunt servers down?

[fallen meteor]

sorry

just something i noticed

[potent arrow]

nop

[fallen meteor]

ill shjut up

[lofty sinew]

tarot cards are extremely old guy. old.

[ruby plaza]

So is this a bug or does it one tap with a flechette

[lofty sinew]

flechette can apparently 1tap to head

[ruby plaza]

Well, not just a head but body

[urban steppe]

Flechette has always been able to one tap on head and full upper torso irc

At close range for upper I think

[remote moss]

well mate, tarot cards have been around for a while, so we figured you were trolling

it does show up in lotm, yes

[ruby plaza]

Cuz from my knowledge, nothing was able to single shot kill with a flechette

[urban steppe]

I could be wrong

[ruby plaza]

not even a Romero

[fallen meteor]

oh alright

i'm pretty dumb sorry

[ruby plaza]

Besides, you can't put Flechettes in Romero

So the Homestead is literally the only shotgun that can single shot kill with a Flechette

Which I think is broken

[lofty sinew]

i thought flechette could 1tap body but admittedly i never use it

[ruby plaza]

Flechettes couldn't

[fallen meteor]

to the head yes?

[lofty sinew]

go and get repeated easy 1taps with homestead flechette before calling it broken imho

[ruby plaza]

Anything can 1 tap to the head

I'm just talking about body shots

[remote moss]

youre just uncultured, tarot cards are something you risk not hearing about unless you explore a lot of content, hearing it first from lotm isnt rare

but someone like you showing up somewhere in here definitely is

[lofty sinew]

really? honestly find it kind of wild to have not heard about tarot cards outside of popular media

[ruby plaza]

Homestead could be the comeback of old shotguns

Shotguns used to bleed

This is before special ammos were even a thing

[fallow epoch]

is he solo tho?

[remote moss]

i aint gonna admit some shit but theres some shit i didnt find out until way later

lol

so its fair

[potent arrow]

yeah

but also he just killed the entire lobby

and im in a duo

[fallow epoch]

what kinda mouse sens do u guys use

6 stars dont seem very good to me but im only 3 matches in atm

[remote moss]

use something low and easy to use, long flicks arent important unless youre styling on someone

just small flicks on an easy to control sens

[fallow epoch]

yea for sure agree with that. 60cm-100cm/360 is prob optimal for hunt

[fallen meteor]

sorry

[fallow epoch]

i was thanos in 2020

[remote moss]

dude, youre aight, lol

nothing to be sorry about, chill

[whole mist]

2200 dpi. 6/11 windows.

Ingame:
default: 0.45
Shoulder: 0.62
ADS: 0.40

[fallen meteor]

450 and 1.0

[deft panther]

800 at 0.46

[mild flower]

I never understood how do people see their dpi (especially on a mouse with adjustable DPI with a mouse button)?

[deft panther]

Usually the program for said mouse

[upbeat lark]

Say would an m1- actually that's a stupid question it'll probably be too broken to be put in game
Not to mention it's not time accurate

I use 1100 I forgot

More or less that and manually correct the sensitivity on the game

[lofty sinew]

i run 800 dpi

[mild flower]

Use cyclone, closest you'll get

[upbeat lark]

Oh yea true

Welp time to be a cyclone main

[mild flower]

And you were correct. It is broken lmao. Cyclone is

[lofty sinew]

you can make it display every time it changes with relevant software but i can kind of just feel when its right or obviously too sensitive

[upbeat lark]

I still don't really understand what dpi is

All I know is that

[mild flower]

Basically the sensitivity of your mouse, regardless of other settings

[upbeat lark]

Putvit high but not too high and set the sensitivity manually for smoother mouse glide thingy

[lofty sinew]

how high it's scanning resolution is basically. the higher it is the higher sensitivity it has to smaller movement

[upbeat lark]

Cursor I mean

[fallen meteor]

I like this gun because it looks kind of like ww1/2 gun

but it doesn't shoot fast

[upbeat lark]

Berthier is nice

[mild flower]

Does this mean higher DPI but lower sens would provide better responsetivity compared to the other way around or it doesn't matter

[fallen meteor]

i think it can skip

[upbeat lark]

I keep messing my ammo management with it tho so I only run it if I have spark pistol

[fallen meteor]

or maybe that's not a problem in modern times anymore

[mild flower]

No uppercut? ;(

[upbeat lark]

Also an option but I can't use the thing for some reason

[deft panther]

I only recently found the uppercut, I used to think the recoil was too insane to use, but after using conversion for about 6 months, uppercut feels smooth now

[lofty sinew]

in theory probably yes in practice not convinced it makes any real difference. maybe if you're on team liquid esports pr0

[upbeat lark]

My cursor glide is still choppy with high dpi low sense

Prolly just skill issue tho

Or 1100 isn't high enough

[remote moss]

in practice, yes

[ruby plaza]

So which one is correct

60 or 90

[lofty sinew]

p.sure it's 60s idk why it says 90 there

[ruby plaza]

neither do i

[upbeat lark]

Oversight probably

[fallen meteor]

60 seconds increased and 30 seconds normal regeneration?

[hearty geode]

It is a ww1 gun

[cerulean parcel]

Cyclone is broken? How come I never see it? I will say it’s amazing but never see it

[fallen meteor]

big recoil

[hearty geode]

So is the lebel, and the mosin

[fallen meteor]

or it used to idk anymore

i think they buffed it a few times because nobody used it

[fallen meteor]

I didn't klnow that

[lofty sinew]

It got a small nerf this event

[ruby plaza]

what's that

[cerulean parcel]

Not high enough recoil to matter imo

[turbid dock]

It's 60 in game

[upbeat lark]

The recoil just feels a bit weird

It's like the officer carbine where it feels

[hearty geode]

Some other guns saw use too but mostly like people guarding stuff away from the frontlines

[upbeat lark]

How should I put it

Glidy or something

[hearty geode]

The nagant revolver saw use like through ww2

[cerulean parcel]

I think it’s an amazing gun tbh but it your trying to go cheap then it’s not it, although it’s not super exspensive just depends on how much you want your loadout to be

[turbid dock]

The random offset that your crosshair ends up at after shooting is pretty high on the officer, yeah

[hearty geode]

I always cheap tf out

[turbid dock]

Lots of manual correction needed

[hearty geode]

I have over 20,000 hunt bucks rn maybe I should do a nitro run

[cerulean parcel]

Yeah I try to be as cheap and comfortable as possible

[turbid dock]

The cyclone used to return to pretty much the exact same spot but i believe that's what they nerfed right?

[fallen meteor]

is hunt showdown from germany or australia

[turbid dock]

Germany

[cerulean parcel]

Cheap cheap carbine with bow witch constitine arrows one slot

[hearty geode]

I like to take garbage guns into a raid and then swap them out tbh

[cerulean parcel]

Obviously one tool health and 2 health shots for consumables

[upbeat lark]

My cheap loadout is just vertelli and pax/scotten
my tools and consume cost more than the main and secondary

[cerulean parcel]

Other than that I veterly dead eye or reg dead eye with same weapons

[turbid dock]

Lemat carbine is my personal budget goat, such a nice gun

[upbeat lark]

Oh yea that's such a nice gun

[cerulean parcel]

I’m not a big fan of pistols but that’s prob cuz Iv not played a lot with them I suppose

[upbeat lark]

So versatile too

[fallen meteor]

i think it's the most versatile gun in the game

[hearty geode]

I’ve been having good luck with maynard and schofield

[fallen meteor]

maybe the drilling but I don't like ammo count

[hearty geode]

Can you put fanning on the lemat carbine?

[fallow epoch]

fourth game on in 3+ years I triple headshot a full 6 trio in the first 30 seconds and we end up wiping the lobby.
there's no way u guys r complaining about a solo 6 player in ur 4-5 lobby. If you can't manage to 3v1 him im sorry thats a skill issue...

Also WTF is with all the RNG they've added to the game? The best part about hunt was the accurate weapons. Why is there random bullet inaccuracy now? That's some crazy shit.

Reminds me of battlefield players who cried until they removed headshots entirely for bf6 💀

[fallen meteor]

no

[turbid dock]

Hah, (un)fortunately no

[turbid dock]

the only random bullet deviation happens

1. when you hipfire
2. when you jumpshot
3. when you shoot a slug, nitro, or avto

[upbeat lark]

Probably just me coping cause one time I headshot someone from them quite often

[cerulean parcel]

Pipe down no life

[fallow epoch]

i havent played in 3 years 😉

[turbid dock]

A normal ADS rifle bullet is pinpoint accurate

[fallow epoch]

I'm aware.

[cerulean parcel]

Yeah I suppose idk I think everyone has what they like tbh

[remote moss]

these teammates are really good at making me mad, lol

[hazy crest]

Except for all the guns with slightly misaligned sights

[remote moss]

why do you revive in wire

thats such a dumb idea

its almost like theres wire

IN THE WAY

[fallen meteor]

isn't there a sweet spot for jump shots where it's like 100% accurate?

[upbeat lark]

And the pistols use besides emergency killing machine is ammo

[fallen meteor]

I think right as you begin to fall?

[cerulean parcel]

Haven’t either just got on a wipe teams to but you don’t see me stroking my ego on here

[fallow epoch]

Still, using RNG to balance slugs, nitro, and avto is terrible design.
If slugs were too strong, just dial in the 1-body range until it's not OP anymore.

[cerulean parcel]

That’ll be enough

[upbeat lark]

More bullets to freedom on the vertelli

[fallow epoch]

sorry this is how i goon

[turbid dock]

There was at one point, the behavior has changed a few times, now its always inaccurate

[fallen meteor]

oh

[hazy crest]

Jump shots are accurate as long as you’re ascending. Once you start descending it becomes inaccurate iirc

[turbid dock]

Not anymore

[hazy crest]

I never saw any patch notes

[cerulean parcel]

Peace man, maybe I’m being too much

[turbid dock]

They changed it a few events ago

[cerulean parcel]

I appologize

[clear fossil]

how good is the ironside martini because i looked and it only has 1.8second cycle? isnt that better than fast fingers?

[fallow epoch]

no ur good bro i dish it out so i can take it lol

[hazy crest]

Yes but brick

[turbid dock]

Yeah, martini fast fingers is like 2.5-ish seconds

[fallen meteor]

it's very good if you don't mind the big ass block on your screen

[cerulean parcel]

Word, although like anything can happen in this game 😂

[upbeat lark]

Waffle machine

[remote moss]

the idea that wire can kill a teammate if he stands up in it is such a complex thought for some people

lol

[clear fossil]

so basically only downside to it being just being ridiculously powerful and fast firing is... a big box?

[remote moss]

yes

[turbid dock]

Learn to ignore the big box and you ascend into martini godhood

[fallen meteor]

i think it's a little more expensive too

but idk if anyone really cares about money for balance

[whole furnace]

You lose the ammo split function too :)

But basically, Ironside w. HV is a poor man's Mosin, same damage and cycle speed, but less MV.

[turbid dock]

If you run hv on it you're cringe

[hazy crest]

Just don’t use hv and lead your shots

[turbid dock]

Default ammo ironside gang

[lofty sinew]

I hate box. Would rather lose than do box face

[turbid dock]

Default ammo ironside is a sub 40-ish meter repeating sparks of death

[upbeat lark]

I like normal better to go half incendiary half fmj

Actually

I don't know

I don't think I have ever unlocked the waffle to try it

[turbid dock]

And, for the record

The 1865 is just an ironside with slightly worse stats, no box, and more ammo

[upbeat lark]

Cheap too

I like that gun especially when I got it on a free hunter

[urban steppe]

cringe

full explosive or nothing

[upbeat lark]

When you get used to the mv it's nice

[hazy crest]

The 60 extra mv loss just does something to my brain

I can lead the martini

[clear fossil]

this is what i was thinking

[hazy crest]

I can’t hit a goddamn thing with the carbine

[lofty sinew]

carbine is like playing an FPS via written missive

Dir sir and / or madam, I shoot at you. PEW. Sincerely, me

[urban steppe]

I can hit explosive martini shots
which have less mv than the 1865 carbine

yet I can't land hits with the latter LOL

[clear fossil]

especially silenced sub sonic carbine

[fallow tide]

so far so good tonight three full house clears

[turbid dock]

The secret is just admitting that you're not gonna be fighting shit at range with the thing hah, fight in compound range and the gun is a monster

[hazy crest]

What mv is that even

like 250

[clear fossil]

low is all i know

[upbeat lark]

Agreed

[whole furnace]

Run ot with FMJ that is even lower at 230m/s

[urban steppe]

yeah but the vetterli exists
sure it does less
but you can get the followup shot much faster

[upbeat lark]

At range you're better off getting a cent shorty (if you have quarter master)

[lofty sinew]

the 1865 carbine theory is you hopefully don't even need the followup shot surely

[clear fossil]

229

[urban steppe]

or you do what I do

[clear fossil]

i just checked

[urban steppe]

and throw the hive jar

LOL

[turbid dock]

The missing damage means you lose out on the Sparks Factor though, ynow where you'll OHK an enemy with a stubbed toe

[lofty sinew]

well, that isn't a followup shot eh 😛

[urban steppe]

they got like 1 milisecond to kill the bees before they do the 5hp to down them

[clear fossil]

fmj 218

[lofty sinew]

followup bees

[hazy crest]

Goddamn. Getting close to derringer speed but hits like a truck

[urban steppe]

this is the way

[clear fossil]

at least according to wiki

[urban steppe]

followup shot 🤮
followup bees

😼

[turbid dock]

Followup beetle

[clear fossil]

wait if fmj is slower than subsonic... is it more silent as well?

[hazy crest]

No more beetles

You think I bring beetles?

[lofty sinew]

every time i shoot a stalker beetle now I do a little nelson ha-ha

[hazy crest]

You scavenge beetles

[clear fossil]

i dont want to admit but i ran 1865 carbine silenced fmj for a long while at one point
thats 218MV?

[fallen meteor]

do you have to lead by 20 meters

[urban steppe]

its better with hive jars imo
because past a certain elo

guys can shoot beetles out of the sky
most people who just took a 145 torso shot aren't going to be thinking clearly enough to use a flare gun on the incoming hive swarm 😼

you will hear them frantically meleeing before they die tired

[clear fossil]

how did i hit shots with 218 MV

thats so low

[whole furnace]

Just slower

[upbeat lark]

Compound range you shouldn't need to do much leading

[clear fossil]

well slow = more silent

[urban steppe]

that and the fact you can rush them

[turbid dock]

God, i yearn for 1865 poison ammo

[hazy crest]

That’s the problem with most people beetling. You gotta fly on the ground

[urban steppe]

while the bees are on them

[hazy crest]

You think hunt follows such silly things as physics

[urban steppe]

the 1865 would be a lot stronger if it had either incend or poison imo

yeah

[whole furnace]

Oh damn, I was telling you lies, it is 218m/s lmao

[urban steppe]

sparks alr has poison ammo

[whole furnace]

Yeah subsonic is 229m/s

[urban steppe]

I don't see why the 1865 can't have it

[turbid dock]

I think steel bolts are faster than that

[urban steppe]

ah

[clear fossil]

why did i land hits with silenced fmj on carbine but not martini explosives at 80 more MV

?

[urban steppe]

you aren't used to it

[hazy crest]

People literally never hit my beetles if I hug the ground

[turbid dock]

Advanced beetling tech, straight out of the beetle society's beetle research institute

[lofty sinew]

there is a bit of luck involved at lower MV unless your target is a dork and just not moving

[fallen meteor]

can you still put bombs on beetle

[lofty sinew]

I believe so

havent done it in a while though

[turbid dock]

Holding a carbine gives you a subtle aimhack because of the aura

[fallen meteor]

i saw a rexnor clip where they place satchel charges at event area before hand and then activavte them with beetles

[clear fossil]

i just used to lead a lot

and then when peopel said "just lead a single frame" im like no way thats enough

i was shooting 218 MV so it was in fact not enough

[fallen meteor]

looks really fun

[whole furnace]

Still need to do this with silent FMJ too

[hazy crest]

Surefoot pitcher is way better at delivering an explosive than a beetle will ever be

[mild flower]

this includes lemat carbine right

for me it does

[lofty sinew]

surefoot pitcher is not even 1/10th as funny as a beetlebomb though

[turbid dock]

All 4 carbines

[upbeat lark]

Kinda want a pax carbine

[mild flower]

man how badly i want a pax carbine. that would INSTANTLY become my main weapon no matter what the stats are.

[turbid dock]

I've been saying this for decades

[lofty sinew]

lemat carbine isn't even that slow, it's easy to hit shots with

[turbid dock]

Crytek, GIVE US THE PAX CARBINE

we know you're hiding it from us

[urban steppe]

the issue is moreover the sluggish rof compared to the two other compact guns

you wouldn't ever pick it over the other 2 imo

[lofty sinew]

I most certainly would

because shotgun

[mild flower]

is it acceptable to repost suggestions from years ago? in game ideas

[urban steppe]

the underbarrel for the lemat carbine is the worst shotgun out of the single shots

spread wise

[lofty sinew]

doesn't mean it doesn't work

[urban steppe]

yeah
it just isn't as efficient

i'd say you are better off spamming levering on the winnies

[upbeat lark]

Or you could turn it into a tool and slot in flares for some reason

[turbid dock]

It's acceptable to repost a pax carbine suggestion multiple times a day

[mild flower]

isnt small lemat worse

[urban steppe]

the entire lemat family is bad shotgun spread wise

[hazy crest]

It’s way better than it was pre 1896. You really used to be better off meleing

[urban steppe]

oh yeah definitely LOL

pre 1895
that thing was a confetti cannon

[mild flower]

yeah but nowadays "bad" in terms of shotgun spread is pretty easy to be, relatively

[urban steppe]

now, its just meh

compared to the chadmero

and uh
drilling underbarrel

[visual quail]

lost one game: nitro tiem

[urban steppe]

in a game post limb damage buff
levering a winnie is probably better in cqc vs switching to shotgun mode and using it

[remote moss]

i really need to build a habit of inst agrabbing bounty

[lofty sinew]

barrel stuffing with any shotgun is more reliable than levering compact imho

[remote moss]

its wasted when the passive teammate gets it and lets them get close cause theyre too scared to peek

[fallow epoch]

so avto and nitro h ave RNG, does dolch?

[turbid dock]

@mild flower me and mccree cooked up a suggestion for pax carbine stats a while ago

120 dmg
1.3s cycle time
480 base mv (475 w/ fmj)
4-6-ish recoil
25-ish spread

[urban steppe]

nah, not if you tapfire
you can get those 2 shots off before they switch to the shotgun and blast

[lofty sinew]

Dolch doesn't have rng, it just has loss of self respect

[urban steppe]

2 is all you need to kill with a levering gun

at those ranges

[lofty sinew]

what if they turn into vishnu and are only arm hitboxes

[urban steppe]

[slate spruce]

Which YouTuber should I watch for a deep dive on this game

[lofty sinew]

i feel like it happens to me regularly with compact

[slate spruce]

Cause all of it is a year old

[dawn mantle]

If you're holding something with a fuse lit and die, do you drop it where you are?

[lofty sinew]

what do you mean by deep dive

[slate spruce]

Like through the game

[remote moss]

psychoghost is just the best overall

[slate spruce]

I want to know what’s happening in the game

[remote moss]

tip about the game, its all about waiting in a good spot and punishing the peek

thats literally 99% of the game

oh the lore

yeah the lores fucked up, no point, try #lore-discussion from the nerds

[lofty sinew]

do you mean deep dive on individual mechanics of things or what

[slate spruce]

No no no no I mean I want to know about the game that’s what a deep dive means

[urban steppe]

hunt labs does a lot of good deep dives on game mechanics

[slate spruce]

Like I want to know mechanics and shit

[remote moss]

ok so psychoghost

[slate spruce]

Not the lore

The only lore I like is outlast

[lofty sinew]

rexnor does some pretty detailed vids about specific weapons I guess

[turbid dock]

An overview of what the game is like to decide if you want to buy it? Learning the game if you're new? Or something else?

[urban steppe]

scratch that

[lofty sinew]

I never watch those videos. I can't imagine them being not boring

[remote moss]

why are they leaving

it should be 30 secs not 4 minutes

[mild flower]

#game-ideas message
repost from like 4 years ago, o no, someone feel free to tell me if it's not ok.
here is my old suggestion.

[lofty sinew]

because bleeberbloober, arblegarble, ree blee bloo blah, snore.

[slate spruce]

Learning the game

My friend bought the super duper expensive edition and now I have to play it

[lofty sinew]

i didn't even know hunt had a premium edition

[slate spruce]

Deluxe it comes with a bunch of skins and points for 25 bucks

[turbid dock]

Oh my god, the collectors edition with all dlcs?

Oh that one hah

[slate spruce]

He’ll no

He ain’t Mr beast😭

[lofty sinew]

well, your friend has good taste even if they have questionable purchasing sensibilities. there are worse games to be dragged into.

[slate spruce]

I believe it

And I just want to make him happy so I’ll drop some money on the ghostface bundle and other crap

[turbid dock]

Beautiful

[lofty sinew]

I mean I'm all for supporting crytek, but purchasing skin bundles before you even figure out if you actually like the game is.. weird to me

[remote moss]

i really lost cause my passive teammates dont do anything again

lol

[slate spruce]

Eh I make good money and I payed all my bills

Time for some me time

Alr I’m hopping in let’s see what we got in terms of content

[mild flower]

[lofty sinew]

Fair. I mean. I give very little fucks about spending money on games I like. I just tend to wait until I know I actually like em.

[mild flower]

has crytek ever actually added a weapon suggestion to the game tho? even if its been suggested 999 times and is objectively the coolest and best weapon idea in the universe?

[turbid dock]

I haven't seen it but Whityy uploaded a 40 minute long beginner guide 11 days ago, might be relevant to you?

Rexnor and Rachta also have some old guides that are still good, but usually about more specific topics

[slate spruce]

There’s spiders I’m not playing this shit good luck yall

[turbid dock]

The krag was a popular request

[lofty sinew]

oh yeah some of whityys recent breakdowns are probably decent as far as getting up to speed on the game goes

[mild flower]

that's long ammo, doesn't count. we all know long ammo is crytek's special little baby.

[slate spruce]

That’s sounds good I’ll. Check that out

[turbid dock]

If they were to see the suggestion now and instantly loved it it'd probably take them 6-12 months to add it to the game tho hah

Tho i imagine they probably already have concepts for a pax carbine somewhere at the studio

[mild flower]

oh its never about one specific suggestion.

it's about different people suggesting it over and over

[turbid dock]

Hmm

[mild flower]

dont get any ideas :>

[hearty geode]

It’s crazy how bad compact ammo stuff is now

It used to be great, tons of ammo and almost as much damage as medium

[mild flower]

nah compact ammo is more useable now than ever honestly bc bullet drop

[slate spruce]

There’s so many hunters

[mild flower]

but nothing compares to long never has never will

[silent jetty]

does crytek ever plan to fix the matchmaking system?

[slate spruce]

They look kinda good

[lofty sinew]

compact still entirely viable you just have to play better than the long ammo crew

[mild flower]

everything in the game tbh

[slate spruce]

Should I get on a post or should I run solo

[lofty sinew]

do not choose solo as your first introduction to the bayou. my 2c

[slate spruce]

I also have 9000 skull coins and 1000 orange coins what are they?

[hearty geode]

It’s extremely funny to me that the trapdoor shoots medium ammo, irl it would be .50-70, while the mako shoots .45-70 irl and it’s classified as long

[lofty sinew]

best would be to play with anyone who is familiar with the game who doesn't mind talking you through stuff. you might find that person on the LFG here

[hearty geode]

The long ammo lever gun should have been the .50-110 winchester 1886

[slate spruce]

Alr

[turbid dock]

Or your buddy that bought the game hah

[slate spruce]

He asleep

[lofty sinew]

hunt bucks - used to buy loadouts. blood bonds - used to buy cosmetics and battlepasses etc

[hearty geode]

It is the most powerful lever action rifle ever made that was 60% more powerful than .45-70

[slate spruce]

I can get the pass hell yeah

[turbid dock]

You can choose to play solo if you want, as long as you go in with the expectation that you'll be playing a horror game in a mysterious alien swamp lmao

[lofty sinew]

the game is just a lot to take in initially, unless you are a very specific type of person you're going to have an easier time even going in with randos. just don't expect to survive initially much if at all

[slate spruce]

What’s the best loadout? Or should I just run with the default

[lofty sinew]

also you're gonna vs bots until you hit level 11

[hearty geode]

Only with free hunters

[slate spruce]

That’s best

[hearty geode]

I ain’t fucking with losing a bunch of expensive stuff off the bat

[lofty sinew]

long ammo is strongest but you should try everything just to get a feel for it. it's all viable in theory.

[turbid dock]

No such thing as a best loadout, plenty of different guns, tools and consumables to try, its up to you to figure out which ones you like

The shooting range is probably your best friend in that regard, you can test everything

[hearty geode]

I even had a great match with a shotgun today

[lofty sinew]

i mean shotguns are strongest CQC option

[slate spruce]

But that doesn’t seem likely

[lofty sinew]

oh it happens

[slate spruce]

I’m heading into the range

Wish me luck

[turbid dock]

Beautiful

[mild flower]

good luck

[lofty sinew]

you shouldn't need luck in the shooting range? 😛

[turbid dock]

You never know

You never know, maybe a rogue red barrel blows them up

[mild flower]

one time i pranked my brother because when we went into the shoooting range i brought blank decoys and gaslit them into thinking there was another team fighting us and he actually believed it XD

[lofty sinew]

shoulda clipped

[mild flower]

was panicking so hard

[remote moss]

ahh dont forget the caveat

fmj wildland or fmj ranger are the best cqc options in a compound that can be wallbanged

[lofty sinew]

can't cover everything in every broad statement. they'll learn eventually probably

[remote moss]

probs

man, todays been making me salty

i just want to screw some people with db but they screw me with bad visibility and rain

the one time i pick db, really

tried spitzer for a sec in my avto loadout, its genuinely almost hitscan

for a good player, youre basically guaranteed to hit heads and win duels

explains why all the bad players only run mosin spitzer, they need it to be even remotely competitive, and still hide in forests with dolch cause they lose otherwise

[slate spruce]

I Alr died so ig I needed it

So the guns are very slow so every shot counts

The main problem is these cards and traits

I have no idea how any of them play

[whole furnace]

Except when they are not, but that is advance classes :v

[slate spruce]

You got that right

I like the crownly auto shotgun

But that’s probably late game

So I’ll stick with the revolver

[remote moss]

games mostly positioning, a lot of fights dont end up relying on skill but which team has the better position when the fight happens, betting on one team getting impatient

and yeah, dont bother with c&k, too much recoil and hard to learn for the price

easiest shotgun is the specter rn

[slate spruce]

Ok

[crystal holly]

wwhy do i go into games where it is only me(4 star MMR) and a 6 star MMR player and the other player does not attempt on the bounty

[slate spruce]

The specter is good and comes with the character

So I’ll pick him

I’ll look on the wiki for traits and shin

[ancient cave]

the game prioritizes fill over fair

and the 6 star, knowing modern hunt 6 stars, is probably sitting in a bush not pushing objective at all

[remote moss]

wow, undermining an entire class of people

thats just most of them

[ancient cave]

I can discriminate against 6 stars because I am one

[remote moss]

youre perpetuating stereotypes

shame on you

[slate spruce]

Alr so the traits are just stat buffs and the tarot cards are just match buffs

[remote moss]

yeah

surefoots one of the best traits to grab once you start using premium hunters. 6 points and you can sprint while healing with medkit letting you reposition without just dying if someones too close to get away from

[slate spruce]

So I just need to Millie rock in gets some stuff and go back out

[slate spruce]

Sounds good

Now why am I going in here is there some challenges I can do for permanent upgrades

Like vigors house base kinda thing

Or arc raiders base of operations

[remote moss]

idk, you increase bloodline exp to unlock more traits, i think?

thats about it, nothing special like a base

gain money to buy more

use weapons to unlock their other variants once they get enough exp from killing ai or hunters

[slate spruce]

That sounds awfully boring

[remote moss]

loops crutching hard on the pvp aspect

if you dont like the pvp, youll probably not like hunt

still better than rng finding items from a pain in the ass loot run in tarkov

[slate spruce]

I wish there’d be a build maker type of thing going on but everything’s random

And all I’m riding on is gunplay

[fallow epoch]

I believe thats 20cm/360

[lofty sinew]

you don't need to worry about build making

it's not an ARPG

bring guns, shoot them. bring heals, use them. learn what utility items are for. use them.

you can safely ignore the tarot cards, they're just special consumables. some can be strong but you can win lobbies without ever touching one

it seems complex initially but it's still just a shooter where you shoot things

[remote moss]

bad 6 stars are very funny, they just hide in corners until its too late

then he tries to crouchpeek

while they have info

[latent folio]

Whats the point of locking extraction points? Why not just take them off the map?

[remote moss]

this is killing me, lmao

[lofty sinew]

chariot card switches locked with unlocked

[latent folio]

Just for that team?

[lofty sinew]

for everyone

[latent folio]

Okay, thanks. Haven't played much this season

[turbid dock]

Not quite sure what you mean, but you can customize your hunter with whatever gear you want, even save loadouts to purchase again later

You might be thinking of hiring free hunters with random loadouts?

[remote moss]

what season is this

the 12th?

[fallow epoch]

7.5 years since 2018 spring beta

[slate spruce]

Again it could change in the future with more insight but from a overall overview there is no reason lore wise gameplay wise nor self expression wise why I should get out there

[turbid dock]

In terms of progression, there's not much, we play for the love of the game pretty much lol. There is your weapon and gear unlocks, prestiging to reset those in exchange for cosmetics, certain hunter skins you can level up to 50 to unlock upgraded versions of them, and ofc weekly challenges to level the battlepass for cosmetics

And like, achievements i guess hah

[slate spruce]

I can see it but with that much reasoning i can play the extraction shooter mod in mw2 and have the same level of depth

[turbid dock]

But mostly its about the gameplay itself, every match is different, you learn something new every game and get better, and can tryhard for as many kills as possible or try the goofiest loadouts to see if you have any success

[turbid dock]

Oh don't worry, there's plenty of depth to the gameplay itself

[lofty sinew]

you will neither see the depth nor appreciate it until you have put in a decent number of hours.

[slate spruce]

Ofc to gameplay that’s no question

But it’s just progression that’s keeping me away rn

[turbid dock]

Understandable, I'm a sucker for progression in most games myself

[slate spruce]

It’s like I’m going in and wasting up to 45 minutes to get 2 bounties for like a cool trait

And skins I can get behind

[turbid dock]

To the point where I've made up my own goal of collecting one max level hunter of each skin i own

[latent folio]

progression means little. romero shotgun is one of the basic and best

[lofty sinew]

lobbies do not typically take 45 minutes.

[ruby plaza]

I didn’t know there’s a kill limit for spiders

[remote moss]

nice

[lofty sinew]

50 points a lobby

[slate spruce]

That’s what the eta said so that’s max

[remote moss]

rain is so fucking stupid, so you cant see a gray person 10m in front of you because of the fog and he blends in

lol

[turbid dock]

Yeah, skins are probably the biggest kind of progression in the game

[lofty sinew]

idk what progression you would expect in a shooter. all the other shooters i have played are the same. you unlock cosmetics, maybe some gun variants. they're shooters.

[slate spruce]

So like can you collect them out there or maybe grind for some by doing challenges

[slate spruce]

Vigor is the best example I got

And tarkov and arc raiders

[lofty sinew]

vigor is .. what? that's a trait

[turbid dock]

As a progressionhead tho, hunt doesn't need an involved progression to keep me hooked, I'm here for the gameplay and the fairness of that would suffer if important gameplay capabilities were progression gated any more than they already are, so I'll take the limited forms of progression we have hah

[turbid dock]

Vigor the game hah

[lofty sinew]

If you are able to enjoy Tarkov in 2025, more power to you. All that progression is just irrelevant bullshit that isn't shooting things

[slate spruce]

That’s an extraction shooter where you fight other players and scavenge for crap on a giant winter island and you can customize and deck out an entire cabin just for you

[slate spruce]

No that’s not what I’m saying tarkov is like pulling out teeth or playing 21 with re7

[lofty sinew]

oh then we are in agreement I guess

[turbid dock]

You get skins from levelling up and prestiging, you can get blood bonds (v-bucks) from weekly challenges and very rarely in-game, spend those on skins directly or on the battlepass, grind the battlepass for lots of skins, and there's the hunter progression system where you can grind with specific skins to unlock cooler versions of them

[lofty sinew]

traits and tools and other stuff you unlock as you level, that all just happens if you play

[slate spruce]

And ofc I’m not trying to shit on the game I just want a common understanding on what’s going on and stuff

[lofty sinew]

yeah all g, the way you're phrasing things is a little confusing to me

[turbid dock]

Phrasing from other games hah

But yeah, in short, the game has very little emphasis on progression, most of the emphasis is on the matches themselves

You're generally going into a match on mostly equal grounds with everyone else

[slate spruce]

So your most kind of change is trying to level up a hunter so he can get stuff and skins so you can levels up

[turbid dock]

You're not fighting over gear or for quests like in tarkov, you're fighting over the bounty objective and probably for some sweet kills

Though you can steal someone elses gear if you want to

[slate spruce]

Do you not have mini objectives? Like something for this part of the gun or gear

[lofty sinew]

it's the kills. the fighting. that's what we play for. and that they happen at a pace where each fight is a meaningful interaction. and not just a never ending blender of respawning every 5 seconds (ala cod etc)

you can unlock gun variants by using their base version

[sinful aurora]

idk modern progression based games fried our brains.
Hunt is mostly more like classic games playing for the sake of playing and enjoying it.
today there is so much "progression slop" where the gameplay isn't great and progression just keeps you busy.
The only long term progression goal Hunt is prestiging.

[turbid dock]

Closest thing would be getting XP with weapons (mostly from killing enemies) to unlock new variants of that weapon. Variant usually means a modified version of the weapon, with an attachment, or sawn off, or something like that.

And ofc weekly challenges

[lofty sinew]

I mean the battlepasses give you that progression angle if you want it

[slate spruce]

Progression slop😭

I just want my gameplay to feel meaningful

[lofty sinew]

which mostly just reward you for playing

[slate spruce]

I see

[sinful aurora]

it's the great memories of intense fights which gives it meaning to me :)
the fun time i had with friends

[slate spruce]

Ofc and that’s all fine and dandy

[lofty sinew]

meaningful fights is what hunt has

[mild flower]

does ping have any effect on bullet ballistics like battlefield 1

[sinful aurora]

no

[turbid dock]

Shouldn't have, ballistics seem to be entirely client side and favoring the shooter

[mild flower]

ty

[lofty sinew]

if by meaningful you mean everything you do has to be inching up some imaginary ladder and working through a battlepass doesn't do it for you. Hunt might just not be for you

[remote moss]

another joke of a teammate, mans really just runs straight into bounty team when we agree to go boss

no mic, no audio aaaa kind of player

no heads up, just dies in th eopen

peak 6 star

unless they hide in a bush for a pick on someone pushing, they suck

[sinful aurora]

idk, the fights in Hunt feel very intense even after 6000 hours i played this game.
i don't wanna miss this feeling.

[turbid dock]

I'm a huge sucker for progression in games so i get it lol, I'll play an MMO and stop when the levelling becomes too slow lmao

[slate spruce]

But like I’m playing by myself and I want to just do something that plays a huge part in the game overall like for example I upgrade my bench to level 3 and I get to get better stuff or come in with better stuff things like that

[turbid dock]

You could start by focusing on unlocking weapon variants

[slate spruce]

You’ve got my attention

[lofty sinew]

it's why most modern shooters are dead to me tbh. I would play a good old school unreal tournament equivalent sometimes anyway, which is a very different style. but they don't really exist anymore

[slate spruce]

How meaningful are these extra variants

How much does it change

[turbid dock]

Anything from giving your rifle a funny bayonet to making your mosin fully automatic

[sinful aurora]

lot's of people make their self imposed goals, like getting one million. or getting 75x max level hunters, those two are goals i've set to myself after prestiging to level 69 xD
got the 75x max level hunters in my roster yesterday, and already 300k there to the million.

[slate spruce]

So stuff that changes how the gun plays ok I’m liking where this is going

[lofty sinew]

using some 3 slot gun variants will unlock their shorty variants, allowing you to bring in a 2 + 2 loadout and thus covering longer range and shorter range encounters

[sinful aurora]

Hunt is the only PvP shooter i play, maybe some coop shooter here and there if it has a novel concept.

[lofty sinew]

i've played nearly all shooters for some amount of time

[turbid dock]

You have all "base" weapons unlocked from the start, but most weapons have additional variants, with melee attachments, scopes, longer versions, shorter versions, speed loaders, and some total conversions that change the weapon entirely (vetterli cyclone, martini ironside, mosin avtomat, etc)

To unlock these variants you need to earn xp with any weapon from that weapon family, which can mean killing monsters, but you get the most xp from landing kills on enemy hunters

[sinful aurora]

i tried most popular shooters and some survival games, but nothing sticked with me for long.

[lofty sinew]

I played a lot of CS 1.6 and prior back in the day but am not really interested in that kind of game these days so havent even tried cs2

[remote moss]

@slate spruce the main appeal of hunt is that you dont have to be cracked at fps games to get 6 star and get that certain level of accomplishment of being better than other people, you can just wait and hold angles to punish the avg person for trying to fight

[lofty sinew]

in theory i like battlefield but do not like how those games are these days either

[remote moss]

so in 6 star, you get lots of games where the players dont do much of anything and the skill factor is relatively low

depending on region, this can be worse, eu has uhhh

dont play eu if you want to experience players deliberately playing poorly because they like pushing and stuff

[turbid dock]

They're not "low skill rat players" raian, they're smart and have patience 😤

[remote moss]

i agree, they have patience and their positioning is smart

[lofty sinew]

game does not feel good with high latency. play your most local region and deal with the playstyle culture imho

[remote moss]

its just that the interaction itself isnt taking much skill, just a punish for the guys to move first, or a loss for people who are too scared to rotate while ratting

[slate spruce]

How do I explain this cuz I’m dumb and I’m bad at explaining things

Ok so like say I start at level 0 and make my way up to 10 on that way up to 10 I set my minimum from 0 to 2 that makes it to where even if I do die and lose my stuff i can still make it back to level 10 since I’m Alr almost there

It’s kinda like I want the 0 to 2 part

Just something that last and stays so I don’t feel like my time was for nothing

[lofty sinew]

hunter level is not the same as your actual level

[slate spruce]

Ik the level was just an example

That was just a placeholder not an actual game thing

[lofty sinew]

gaining hunt bucks, gaining experience for your account and leveling from 0-100 all stays and always progresses

even if it's minimal if you die early and don't achieve much

completing challenges gives you blood bonds which you also keep

you can achieve micro goals every lobby (and usually will)

[ancient cave]

how is the search bar still broke vro

[sinful aurora]

broken search bar bug is back?

[turbid dock]

Within one prestige, aka one bloodline level 0-100 run, a singular hunter's life leaves permanent impact even if they die via things like variant unlocks and stuff. A hunter can die and you still have the variants you used that hunter to unlock.

Between prestiges, if you choose to prestige, all progress is reset (including weapon variant unlocks) but you do keep all your cosmetics

[ancient cave]

for me at least

[turbid dock]

(i don't personally prestige, but many do)

[lofty sinew]

prestiging is not worth worrying about if you are just starting out

you can decide about that if / when you hit 100

[ancient cave]

prestiging is literally just for if you have the need to be working for something like me

[lofty sinew]

prestiging is the only real meta progression the game offers

[ancient cave]

and when I finally get victor... I will use him twice and never again

[lofty sinew]

and it affects nothing other than number go up (and some free unique cosmetics along the way)

[remote moss]

prestige gives you more rep and two good skins at the middle and end

when people die to a p100, they get angrier than when dying to a p6

thats how it goes

[lofty sinew]

even though the p6 may have played longer! weee

[slate spruce]

So you’re saying I should treat this like a baton race get as high of a level as possible then switch to the next guy if you die so on and so forth

[turbid dock]

While i would like to get the ghillie skins at prestige 1 and 2, I've committed to the prestige 0 bit for so long now that i can't give up

[ancient cave]

the prestige = skill argument is one I can never fully pick a side on
on one side you're silly for making a paragraph about dying to a p100

on the other sometimes I see brand new fresh players talking about dying to a p100 and then some dude runs in with the "that doesn't mean they're better than you"

and it's like... come on

[lofty sinew]

don't worry about switching. you aren't going to be getting hunters to 50 much. everyone dies. death is real, and common, and frequent, for everyone

[turbid dock]

Nah you can treat it however you want ngl

[slate spruce]

I smell what you farting twin I’m getting it the hunt showdown gimmick

[remote moss]

uhhh if you want efficiency, swap after each win on a hunter, so you can maximize the first extract bonus

getting to lvl 50 with one of them is good for prestige but the odds are very bad

[slate spruce]

Not swap but make a new character is what I’m sayin

[lofty sinew]

anyone who has played for a decent amount of time has donated many, many bodies to the bayou

oh right yes. you will be doing that a lot

[slate spruce]

True true

[remote moss]

i mean, yes new hunter each time

[slate spruce]

Ok

I see it now

[lofty sinew]

it's why it's worth setting up some loadouts to make kitting out faster

[slate spruce]

I’m like Isagi

Now I have to put this into practice

[remote moss]

have fun

[turbid dock]

Hunt is actually a roguelike with how it is divided into unique hunter runs and how each run is different

Source: the voices told me

[remote moss]

dont stress

[slate spruce]

No that’s what im saying tho twin

[lofty sinew]

i mean you'll stress. if you don't stress at all just starting out in Hunt showdown you are not human.

[slate spruce]

Just push as far as you can with a guy then do the next

[brazen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[slate spruce]

Ofc

[turbid dock]

Yep pretty much

[slate spruce]

That’s every extraction shooter

Alr baja blast time

[turbid dock]

Bayou blast*

[slate spruce]

I’m pulling an all nighter

[remote moss]

hunt was way less stressful at the start, youre not aware of how fucking dumb the interactions get, youre just excited about everything

[lofty sinew]

make a point of trying different guns and loadouts just to get a feel for them

[remote moss]

lol

[sinful aurora]

i've seen p100s with a KD of around 0.3 and were simply not good at the game.

correlation is not the same as causation.
playing for a long time just means they had more time to get better. but if they actually got better is a whole different matter.
Most people get better over time, but everyone plateaus at a different skill level and some people plateau very low.

[lofty sinew]

it adds variety if nothing else

[hearty geode]

I personally will play free hunters until I’m ready to use my leveled hunters. I don’t want to lose the good stuff going in cold and getting smoked by someone I didn’t see in time

[lofty sinew]

eh with the friends i played with initially they were paranoid about making noise and didn't really understand the game flow at all and it caused learning a pretty bad playstyle.. but also a lot of stressy quiet hopeful sneaking

[ancient cave]

which is why I don't fully pick a side, but you would never assume one is as good as a new player

[remote moss]

i will say that when counting my teammates skill level at p100, they averaged out as worse than normal players

but at the same time, thats also because theres less p100s out there

not sure how that works out

[turbid dock]

And therein lies the grand conundrum:

I always play so well when i do those free hunter matches so should i just bring an actual real hunter instead? Or would that make me play worse??

[hearty geode]

I choke honestly

I play best when I don’t give a shit lol

[lofty sinew]

no real connection between prestige level and skill of course. easy enough to forget if you're a game discord type, most people don't spend their time disecting mechanics and individual weapon numbers and learning about various tactics from people they don't play with

[sinful aurora]

usually not, tho i got rolled by people who have like 50 hours in Hunt but 3k hours in CS and 1000 hours in an aim trainer lol

[lofty sinew]

aim isn't everything in hunt but it sure af helps

and if it's good enough it'll carry you despite being bad at every other aspect

[turbid dock]

I get exposed to the world of normal gamers via my friends that also play hunt but aren't terminally online like me

[lofty sinew]

most people with good FPS aim have played enough FPS to have good FPS fight instincts anyway

[turbid dock]

This is extremely real, you can know next to nothing about the game but perform well if you just hit shots consistently

[lofty sinew]

Sadly for me I was always best at extremely fast movement shooters where the CQC side of things is wildly different to the pace hunt plays at and it turns out i'm uniquely bad at that aspect.

if i could quad hop through the door at 50mph with a rocket launcher in hand things might be different

[turbid dock]

your brain is too fast

[sinful aurora]

my aim was always terrible, only with playing hunt for so long, it got to average aim.
i actually used to play more strategy and tactic games before hunt, so tactic was the thing which carried me for long enough that my aim was able to catch up. which is kinda neat, can't do that really in other shooters.

[shell turret]

i hatw ultra fast movment spam shooter where you just spam tap slide

[turbid dock]

kinda same, using my brain to win fights is super satisfying, and it's pretty unique to hunt

[sinful aurora]

yep!

[lofty sinew]

i think i have some fairly extreme form of adhd and the extremely fast ones just kept me locked in where in Hunt in CQC I sometimes forget whats going on mid fight :I

[turbid dock]

lmao

[clear fossil]

my aim in middle of a shooutout tend to be bad but i can hit my shots on slow or still enemies well, like tarkov i always used DMR's just so i can hit heads because in that game movement was slower and i was good at that

or tarkov movement is slower now, it used to be faster

[turbid dock]

i can aim if you force me to, but i will get out-aimed by most riflers so i choose to just play up in people's faces and win with positioning and rotations

[lofty sinew]

I need to get better at that side of things to meaningfully improve my hunt game.

[fallow epoch]

drilling might be the biggest pile of dogshit to ever exist

[visual quail]

what if you rotate AND have good aim. ggez

[clear fossil]

i just carried ovee my play style from tarkov to hunt
doesnt translate 1:1 but it did help me catch up this game

[turbid dock]

then i'd be a good player

[lofty sinew]

it takes a while to get used to the 2tap and isn't everyones cup of tea even then.

[fallow epoch]

why is it so slow

[clear fossil]

if you hit your shots drilling is amazing

[lofty sinew]

because you have to wait for the gun to come down from the ceiling after the first shot

[fallow epoch]

i mean the reload, switching, everything is so slow on drilling its insane

[lofty sinew]

probably a better pick to bring the 2 slot as a backup solo i would imagine

[sinful aurora]

3-4 teams collapsing into an intense Hunt CQB brawl is exactly the speed i can handle.
and by intentionally trying to "out accelerate" other team, for the lack of a better term, i noticed that many Hunt players can not handle it. good to overwhelm other players by just forcing more actions on them that they can handle.

[turbid dock]

The amount of self restraint I need to not try to flick my second shot at the target immediately while the recoil still has me pointing at the sky makes the drilling unusable for me, but its a cool gun if you have the restraint to wait

[remote moss]

thats good cause most fights devolve into angle holding

no one really tries to position

[fallow epoch]

I remember the drilling being less bad did they nerf it?

[remote moss]

no? should be untouched

[turbid dock]

tempo, hell yeah

[clear fossil]

i think im pretty good at rotations... in tarkov i felt like i was bad but that might just be because enmies in hat game used cheats a lot but.... this game makes rotations feel easier and enemies usually expect them less.. although i tend to stick to a same position and not rotate in some situations where enemies are more in number or their lcoaiton unknown

[remote moss]

its fun taking advantage of rats not moving, its tough when you have passive teammates though

[lofty sinew]

when in doubt move is my hunt motto these days

[sinful aurora]

in my experience people only holding angles who are mostly static, are quite easy to outplay once you get a rotation on them. being static and passive is only strong if the other team doesn't know how to counter it.

[remote moss]

yeah, only exception are forests where your options to rotate are

usually just as fucked

[sinful aurora]

forests are notorious, but i don't mind a frontal push after explosive spam in a forest.

[clear fossil]

if im in a 2v3 and the 3 enemies hold a compound
not much a rotation can do

[tough horizon]

How did I miss this???????

[clear fossil]

but forest gameplay im good at
i have 2000 hours of woods alone in tarkov

[mild flower]

which one

[sinful aurora]

recently i converted/introduced another player to the hyper aggressive playstyle, feels good.

[lofty sinew]

rotation gives you new peaks for them to be tempted to peak and get a pick for a push

[tough horizon]

both

[remote moss]

its different in hunt, you have no visibility and the first person to move is heard and seen first. and 50/50 peeks between trees means its impossible to actually duel

[mild flower]

second one was too far away, first one they were to your side when you attacked, you only turned around to compensate for their movement after the swing

both were near misses tho

[outer iron]

Cheated. I've killed people from way further.

[tough horizon]

the draw gets everything in screen and that range was full on

[clear fossil]

crouch around, if you run use cover behind you. basically same things as in tarkov work

[lofty sinew]

I mean tarkov woods is kind of notorious for getting doinked by a random sniper 100+m away

i like that map but not much about it feels similar to hunt to me

[clear fossil]

well for me it plays the same almost

but maybe thats just because have like 10x more hours on that map alone than i have in hunt in general

so i just play the same way?

[lofty sinew]

i don't mind forest play unless it's one of those days where i never seem to be able to see anyone

[mild flower]

here is the frame that the draw started for information's sake, not saying youre wrong

[clear fossil]

but yeah tarkov woods was the game where i always played sneaky sniper gameplay
so basically what i do in hunt anyways

first to see wins, first to shoot wins

[tough horizon]

nah, cheated

the draw is one frame

[mild flower]

your latency might have contributed to the second one, could have been a denied trade

[turbid dock]

hah you got robbed

[tough horizon]

IKR???

[lofty sinew]

i reckon that dudes coat has a big gash in it at least.

[turbid dock]

probably some weird mix of weird melee hitbox and latency shenanigans

[lofty sinew]

looks like they got extremely lucky

[tough horizon]

he's missing his kidneys, should be missing his whole life

[fathom shale]

Could be an issue with the melee changes they did this update, the second stab likely just got invalidated since you died already server side

[tough horizon]

lame, bad update

[lofty sinew]

i mean it should have improved that aspect really

in theory at least

[turbid dock]

i wish i had clipped it to rewatch and study but i had an incident yesterday where a solo just spawned out of nowhere inside the boss lair when i went to pick up the bounty. I had been listening for a while without hearing anything, but i'm guessing they had been using the banish noises that appear at certain percentage ticks to move up silently

felt like silent crouching was back

[lofty sinew]

back during silent solo surefoot or whatevet that happened to me a bunch of times

[remote moss]

smart

footsteps blend in too well when theres background audio, they tried changing it so it was more audible but

youre still not hearing a guy sprinting at 40m when theres fire nearby

you hear them if its quiet, i guess

[turbid dock]

i usually hear footsteps really well but this incident stumped me

[mild flower]

yeah moving up with banish noises as sound cover is a tried and true strat

[turbid dock]

i was also peeking out of the windows, didn't see anyone approaching at any point

dude was genuinely playing a stealth game

i was the silly, predictable guard

[lofty sinew]

most lairs have a hojilion approaches and entry points these days

[remote moss]

this is where you instill the habit of trying to befriend solos

say hellooo

[turbid dock]

I always pay extra attention during the last 10% because i've used this time to push myself, but for some reason i didn't catch anything

[mild flower]

https://tenor.com/Q8y0.gif

hit you with the head bucket

[turbid dock]

yuup

put a bucket on my head and call me belethor

[remote moss]

no

im grateful for the brazilians, they make night time hunt so much more bearable

fuckers push and shit, best teammates on average if we're talking na foreigners

just chilling too

[terse wasp]

I fuck with Brazilians. They're bing chilling.

[remote moss]

wait, they could be mexicans

lol

mexican brazilians, same thing, i dont fucking know

[terse wasp]

If you're ever in party with one, just shout caralho when some bad shit happens.

[lofty sinew]

i have a feeling those two groups would dispute being the same thing somehow

[remote moss]

i got you

[terse wasp]

like car(rolled r)-ahl-yo

[remote moss]

one of these brazil teammate said the name of a brazil streamer i fought yesterday, had a fun fight

[terse wasp]

Brazilians take big offense to being called "hispanic" in my experience. "They're the only SA country that wasn't colonized by Spain."

Looooooool

So, latino, but not hispanic.

[remote moss]

lol

hope the reverse isnt true

[tough horizon]

Wow, racist much? I thought bigotry wasn't allowed here

[remote moss]

idk, they said they were from brazil but their profiles said mexican

[tough horizon]

Not even latino

[remote moss]

well, at least i think they did, accent was kind of rough

@sage gust hi, where are you from

assuming i got the right guy

[raven rune]

AI wouldnt lie to me, right?

https://i.imgur.com/euVJZ3R.png

[ancient cave]

terminology to groups of people is very dangerous ground to tread

[remote moss]

time to hide

[terse wasp]

Nice try, my guy.

[mild flower]

chat do you wanna talk about hunt: showdown 1896 its a pretty cool game

i like the gunplay

u should try it

[ancient cave]

hunt fucking sucks

[tough horizon]

Geographic definition because of Latin America. Not classified officially by the government.
Also AI result 🚮

If anything Brazilians are luso, because of Portugal

[tough horizon]

Hunt is abysmal dogshit. The devs should just delete it at this point, I agree.

[remote moss]

all im saying is

if i just hid in corners like the avg 6 star rat

id be rocking an average kd of 6

nothing like two teams hiding in their compounds camping bodies because they die in every other situation

[raven rune]

I love hunt

[terse wasp]

It's geographical, yes. However, the Oxford dictionary defines it geographically as well.
Also, I've not a Brazilian yet who does not consider themselves latino. (I'm married to a Brazilian, have visited Brazil, and have a gratuitous number of Brazilian friends).
If that's not good enough for you, do what you do, friendo.

[urban steppe]

Always bush
never push

[remote moss]

youre the reason i cant control my rage

[whole furnace]

Fair and valid gameplay :)))))

[full jungle]

Yes it would

[icy elbow]

The concept of having the chat gpt app downloaded

[tough horizon]

Oxford is a gringo dictionary. Go look at aurelio

[full jungle]

It has its uses

[tough horizon]

And don't friendo me, buddy

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cathands-cat-in-hat-cat-with-hands-silly-cat-gif-14981685377760273746

[outer iron]

From 3 stars to a brief touch at 5 stars. I get lucky with a katana two rounds and it thinks I'm him for some reason.

Then its right into the rounds with actual cheaters.

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-you-felt-how-they-felt-devil-dog-dog-mask-dog-in-mask-gif-23467335

[outer iron]

Literally having mobs teleport to me like this is a public RDR lobby.

[whole furnace]

Man you should have recorded

[full jungle]

Agreed

[outer iron]

Oh I did.

One sec.

[terse wasp]

Okay. Oxford, Britannica, Dictionary.com, Cambridge ALL state the same thing. Obviously blatant factual information doesn't count for you. Just some random one that you decided fit your narrative. I concede. You're correct.

[outer iron]

I'll make a bigger clip later. If you're wondering why it jitters a bit. I'm standing on some sandbags the game doesn't agree with.

[full jungle]

Your first mistake is trying to have an intellectual and factual argument on discord

It’s not possible

[terse wasp]

It's okay. I give up. He can win.

[whole furnace]

Holy shit

[full jungle]

Quitter mentality

[outer iron]

These players were the most suspect people ever. Had me pinned there forever and decided to just pull out their final gambit.

[full jungle]

You keep going until it evolves into hurling insults and a mod steps in

[terse wasp]

Crap, I failed.

[fallow epoch]

solo necro seems like a fantastic way to sandbag your MMR

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/xafer-funnycat-cutecat-kitty-cat-gif-11082804788820990540

[whole furnace]

They just kindly donated event points to you uwu

[whole furnace]

You cannot do that

[fallow epoch]

my solo games still have 3 stacks of 5-6 stars

[outer iron]

I just started running cheap doo doo kits until the game put me back where the world makes sense.

[fallow epoch]

dying twice more MMR loss, no?

[full jungle]

No

[whole furnace]

Naw, they reworked the system due the issue of people (unintentionally) sandbagging their MMR with solo necro :)

[icy elbow]

Unintentional

[fallow epoch]

I think necro should be removed low key

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-animal-cleaning-tidy-floor-gif-7632028141660776717

[whole furnace]

Well, not everyone went into a game and just let them be farmed.

[outer iron]

It's fine. Just kill them again.

[fallow epoch]

i never said it was OP

[terse wasp]

I'm unintentionally terrible at the game. I've come to terms with it.

[fallow epoch]

its just kinda dumb

[icy elbow]

lol I know but I know a lot of folks who sadly did it it intentionally

[full jungle]

Weirdos

[fallow epoch]

I liked solo when I could sticky bomb the boss, kill it quick, etc.
I don't need to be able to revive myself or play against people who are lower MMR.

[outer iron]

It just has really messed up collision. I don't think they ever expected someone to hug the wall like I was for dear life in that situation.

[fallow epoch]

whats the fish mean

[whole furnace]

Yeee, so good riddance it got fixed.

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/in-shock-gif-17553158948252598097

[full jungle]

Baiting

And I don’t like your take

So I fish it

Even if you aren’t baiting

[mild flower]

oh! good to know 😭

[full jungle]

😭

[terse wasp]

How does one even begin to attempt eating a boulder?

[ancient cave]

I ate a penny once does that count

[mild flower]

cut it into bite-sized pieces with a katana 🥷

[urban steppe]

this gotta be april fools day early

[terse wasp]

I choked on a quarter and ended up swallowing it.

[icy elbow]

one bite at a time

[whole furnace]

You've had enough of pushing it up that damn hill.

[terse wasp]

I'm not sure human teeth stand up to much more than one bite of boulder.

[night crane]

has there ever been any indication from the hunt guys that we might get multiplayer/team Soul Survivor?

[full jungle]

It’s from the onion which is satirical news thankfully

[whole furnace]

nop

[fallow epoch]

its not bait, maybe my MMR is particularly high or something, but just had a full 6 3 stack kill me as a solo. (it was raining and i was mid killing boss, I never get outskilled tbh)
but i have a working mouse so that already puts me in that upper echelon 🙂

[full jungle]

I use the fish for opinions I don’t like aswell

Not just bait

[fallow epoch]

it's not an opinion that i had a full 6 trio

[full jungle]

Well then for your take

[fallow epoch]

and I LIKE that it was full 6

[icy elbow]

you aren’t playing with your computer hooked directly up to your brain?

[full jungle]

Fish

[terse wasp]

"I never get outskilled" might actually be the baitiest bait.

[mild flower]

while killing boss, make sure to check dark sight every now and then and see if the boss light turns red. if it does, take defensive positions and get ready to fight.

[fallow epoch]

im a top player but thanks for the tip 🙂

gosh all my messages are so bedazzled thats pretty cool

[fathom shale]

Why are we making a zoo here

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-bnuuy-bunny-rabbits-bunnies-gif-17716021220906294954

[fallow epoch]

I love animals 😄

i made a maggot pot recently by accident (left cooked rice in my closed ricecooker for a month) and when I opened it had turned into an ORANGE LIQUID SOUP full of maggots. I had to relocate those boys in a bush outside so they could turn into flies

flies are some of the coolest animals

crazy what 1 fly can do

and how dry rice can become liquid (their metabolism extracted the water from the carbohydrates)

[full jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-gif-22652112

Don’t fish me

I’m the lord of fish

Can’t be fished

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-ugly-cat-dumbass-cat-gif-23136918

[fathom shale]

https://tenor.com/view/enbabyfazball-fish-thirsty-gif-12496812153427391344

[icy elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/monke-gif-4007877678756330230

[full jungle]

Mosin

[terse wasp]

Hunt: Showdown fishing added when????

[icy elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401019644938289153/1352604113644290058/caption-3.gif

[full jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/775682433168572456/835299514151731200/we_doin_a_bit_of_trol.gif

[fathom shale]

Ok getting a bit spammy so lets tone it down

[terse wasp]

nuh-uh

[ocean briar]

Are the moderators in any way associated with crytek or purely volunteers?

[fathom shale]

Volunteers

[terse wasp]

They're robots.

[fallow epoch]

heiroglyph esque communication

[sinful aurora]

i can assure you that most of us are not robots, i am a cat! (a silly one)

[terse wasp]

Sounds exactly like what a Terminator would say.

[sinful aurora]

maybe some of us are cyborgs.

[terse wasp]