#lore-discussion

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uncut narwhal
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Someone tell me the Louisiana incident I hear it all the time and can’t find good videos on YouTube talking much about it

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I really wanna know what went down in the bayou 1895

warped stream
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The game

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The game happened

warped stream
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Joking aside, the Louisiana Incident is what's happening in the game as far as I know. A plague broke out, hunters are coming to stop it/profit from it.

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Theres way, way more to it than that but that's the extreme summarized way to put it

warm lagoon
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@uncut narwhal you can check the pinned lore documents where it's also explained

uncut narwhal
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Where would i find that

warm lagoon
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@uncut narwhal channel pinned messages at the right top corner

uncut narwhal
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Cool thanks man

warm lagoon
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this is probably what you're looking for @uncut narwhal

uncut narwhal
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🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

fierce sinew
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so i just got some lore from the bunny rifle... and thats kinda sad. but the guy is right life is short so smile and move on.

uncut narwhal
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Yeah I know rip to the owner of the bunny

fiery forge
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Hey I'm fairly new to the game and noticed that it has some interesting lore and world building especially the hunter factions. Reading through some of it the concepts of "The Twins" piqued my interest. Who exactly are these guys and what's their "role" in the story?

wintry panther
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@fiery forge the twins are two girls who are super deadly Hunters, and if you read the "Bad As They Seem" journal in pinned that contains their whole story

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Many of the legendaries are also tied to the two girls as well

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Here is the link to the pdf

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Besides the fact that the Twins are blamed for the death of the head of the AHA, Phillip H Jones, although whether that is true or not is yet to be determined

fiery forge
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@wintry panther Thanks for the read. I figured that the twins were super important characters and was pretty surprised that they weren't on the Legendary Hunter roster or something

wintry panther
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Yeah! Many of the key players have yet to be released as legendaries and they might keep it that way until there is more concrete evidence to who these characters are and their motives

fiery forge
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It seems that a whole lot of the lore has been kept pretty shadowed. Like for example, was the "Louisiana incident" the only one going on at the time? How much of the US, maybe even the world is infected by this plauge?

wintry panther
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Exactly, its pretty open ended

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The devs wanted to explore more the time itself rather than following a singular incident

earnest jungle
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It’s occurred to me there may be a reason why Louisiana is where this is all happening. You see the dead don’t stat buried in Louisiana. The Swampy soul ensures that bodies can’t be buried in the soil. Which would allow the sculptor to constantly refresh his foot soldiers with ease.

wintry panther
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True and with all the loa and stuff it seems to be a good place to use culturally

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and how they treat the dead

umbral agate
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who is this sculptor?

wintry panther
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@umbral agate it is the name given to the being who is behind the creation of all the monsters. He is from another universe and has entered ours. For what? we dont know

gilded saffron
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So im looking at the prinned pdf monster book, it goes grunt then assassin,.should I read it in that order? Or should I read it in terms of like small to big?

wintry panther
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@gilded saffron The devs designed the book of monster so that you can read in whatever order, since people will unlock them differently. From there you can put together what you want in regards to the story. But each monster will have their own little story

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independent of the other creatures

sinful trout
rotund ferry
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Lets discuss why the Dolch 96 is out in 1895 when it was manufactured in 1896

visual finch
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It's a prototype maybe?

rotund ferry
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Sent all the way from Europe?

visual finch
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There's a lot of hunter with european like name

warm lagoon
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it was distributed officially to military officers in 1896 i think but was made a year before that

rotund ferry
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Yes prototypes of the c96 were being developed as early as 1894, if you look on gunbroker there is a mechanically matching c96 that was shipped as a dealer’s model in 1895

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so to answer your question there were c96s in circulation by 95 but in very low numbers

noble swallow
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like any good gun nuts, hunters got their grubby mitts on anything and everything no matter how obscure or rare it is

hard crane
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How long has the Sculptor been active in this world?

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I kind of get the feeling that it's been happening for a few years prior to 1895

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At least that's how I interpret things

gloomy night
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@hard crane I feel like the Sculptors work has been happening over the course of months. Given the fact most of the writings from various characters lack a date.

hard crane
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Is there a lore reason for the introduction of trios?

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Someone mentioned voodoo stuff earlier I think

marble canopy
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Not necessarily explaining it, but the Springfield page has something on it.

hard crane
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Are the Sinners specific characters in the lore?

forest condor
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We know of one or two of them but the sinners are mainly referred to as a group

heavy marsh
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Sinners?

marsh crest
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There's a song on the soundtrack called "Sinners Blues" that mentions "washing in the blood" to avoid "eternal damnation". This makes me wonder if the "Sinners" are related to Isaac Powell's "Night of the Hunter" cult as that's one of their central beliefs.

rotund ferry
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what are the sculptors

gloomy night
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@rotund ferry The Sculptor is some other dimensional being that is responsible for the madness going down in Louisiana in the game.

boreal ravine
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So is the weird sister and the witch doctor(idk if thats the name) like some kind of monster slaying cult?

wintry panther
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@boreal ravine they are part of a voodoo oriented hunters, a subdivision of hunters like the reverend and his group of Christian believers, and the doomsday cult called night of the hunters

boreal ravine
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So the hunters are an organization? Not just fortune seekers ?

wintry panther
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Well some have organized into groups based on beliefs, but others go solo. For example, the AHA (American hunters association) has tried to be the most structured, although it has run into problems as you will find out of you read through the book of weapons

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Everyone has come for their own reasons to the bayou, some for personal fortune, others because they believe they are called by a god or gods, and others because they want to stop the end of the world.

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At the end of the day, the result is the same. Hunt, kill, repeat

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@boreal ravine

boreal ravine
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So where do the voodoo people fall in this category ? Are they part of the association or their own little sub group that acts on their own (sorry for the myriad of questions btw, I just find the lore really interesting )

wintry panther
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They are their own sub group that acts of independent goals, if you read the witch doctors legendary description he had a vision of the end of the world and to stop it he has to kill the bosses.

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No worries!! That’s why we are here :)) we love having new people come in and show interest in lore, there is a lot to uncover so it’s always a little challenging at first

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A great place to look is in the pinned section of #lore-discussion I have documented all journal entries and everything lore related there

boreal ravine
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So the people that you recruit and the lost souls, are they AHA or is it a mixed bag?

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The non legendary hunters

wintry panther
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@boreal ravine theyre typically aha. It’s difficult though, because we don’t know yet what the prestige counts lore wise. Or how playing as multiple hunters fits in. Like are you just playing as randoms? Or are you a head distributor of hunters and as you gain more reputation you gain access to higher tier hunters

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That area of lore is up in the air

boreal ravine
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Well, the whole recruit page seems to imply that you’re some kind of equipment medium and delegator. In that section the player is probably like you said some distributor who, as they have more and more people come back alive, gain a reputation and more skilled hunters show up in their dossier

wintry panther
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That’s what I like to think as well, would also explain access to better weapons as well. It’s just never been confirmed so far so until it is, it’s just a theory

boreal ravine
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A game theory

gloomy night
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@boreal ravine @wintry panther I dunno if this will interest either of you but I like to view certain hunters differently. The Tier 3’s with weird tattoos and face paint give me a voodoo vibe. All Tier 1’s to me look like mere conscripts for AHA to me. How do you feel about the different tiered hunter skins?

amber harbor
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@gloomy night They're supposed to be more experienced as the tier goes up. Seeing the big impact voudou has on the hunting grounds, it's plausible that more experienced hunters would come to believe in voudou stuff. It was confirmed a while back that tatoos hold no actual power, they're just cosmetic

gloomy night
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I don’t remember saying they had power but just a simple vibe reminding me of voodoo.

wispy quartz
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I got a different story about the Hunters but the site says something other. Are we Hunters of a secret society or are we prisoners dumped into the bayou to die only to have 1 survivor bringing the bounty back to get his freedom?..

boreal ravine
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So is darksight a form of voodoo then? Because every single hunter knows it regardless of where they came from, so that might mean they all come from one place or person who teaches them whatever the ability entails.

amber harbor
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@wispy quartz we are hunters who get contracted by the American Hunter's Association to get a bounty, which is the bounty hunt mode. The second description you found is for Quickplay, where 'damned souls' compete for the wellspring, which can save them, although specific details are unclear

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@boreal ravine every hunter undergoes an initiation ritual which brings them closer to the supernatural world, from where the sculptor is. After that connection is established, they unlock that ability

marble canopy
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Exactly what damning is and saving yourself from it is outlined in the original lore page released with Quickplay

boreal ravine
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Perhaps the damned souls are the hunters that die in bounty hunt mode. Once they enter the supernatural world, their souls are bound to the supernatural world and the wellspring is the only way to prevent them from turning into a monster maybe ? Maybe the wellspring is what creates the monsters and they just don’t know it. All they know when they wake up is to close the rifts and find the wellspring

amber harbor
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We have no solid answer to that question, but the running theory is that qp is a kind of purgatory as @boreal ravine said

floral star
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Can someone dm me about the female hunter lore? A streamer claimed it goes against lore to have female hunters and they would turn to ash. Is he right?

marsh crest
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Read the lore on the Meathead enemy, that should clear things up a bit.

hard crane
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Huh,yeah it does

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Two questions

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Together they performed the initiation ritual. She was the first female hunter to be initiated in many decades

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Does this mean the sculptor and hunters in general have been active for decades??

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And do we know anything about the initiation ritual

zealous token
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Other parts of the monster manual do imply that some of these monsters seem familiar through old legends and/or folktales, so it could be that the Sculptor, or a sculptor, has come and gone before in human history.

wintry panther
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Yeah these events have gone on for centuries, the game is just studying this one particular Louisiana incident

formal fractal
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Hunt : Roman Empire when?

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or more accurately, HVNT

marsh crest
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I'd ask for Hunt: Medieval, but that's basically a Witcher's job, isn't it?

formal fractal
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Hmm

wicked glacier
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@marsh crest yup

amber harbor
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they said they don't plan on adding any outside Louisiana maps, but who knows

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Also @hard crane yes, the AHA has existed for a long time under many names. As for the sculptor, we don't know for sure

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sculptors are a class of paranormal entities as far as we know

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and the initiation ritual was revealed to be just injecting demon blood in your veins, as far as I can remember

uncut narwhal
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Why is it that the tier 3 hunters have strange markings and tattoos on them and the tier 1 hunters don’t? I know that dark sight comes with a price and ritual but only tier 3 hunters have markings and tats. Im assuming they must do their own ritual within their own voodoo group since they’re many other hunting groups other than AHA that are based on their own beliefs. AHA is more of a corporation or establishment based on hunters and other people who want to become hunters or seen the monsters and have to become hunters. They must do the bare minimum of the ritual and get them on their way to go hunt meanwhile the voodoo groups know the ritual and have their own fates fulfilled and probably worked on their magic for years which explains the depth of looks on the tier 3 hunters

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Idk just something I thought of earlier I could be right or wrong but who cares this game is a mystery and I love it

polar fable
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I think it’s just for the aesthetics. Tier 1 hunters are basically usual people recruited by AHA and at times they are quite poorly informed about what they are going to be hunting and so have no idea about supernatural side of things. Tier 3 hunters however are supposed to be veterans and I believe they know what they deal with. Voodoo tattoos might not have any particular effect but having them just in case won’t hurt, so I guess that’s all there is to it

forest condor
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@amber harbor there's no way QP is a type of purgatory

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If living hunters can seek out wellsprings then the hunters we play as aren't dead

amber harbor
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sorry for misinforming then

forest condor
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I mean it can be seen as a metaphorical purgatory as in your 'sins' or damnation is being washed away

amber harbor
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That's how I remembered it being

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oh ok

forest condor
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Yeah that was a theory for a time

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But then the communique came out and that got squashed

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@boreal ravine the "damnation" is just an effect from connecting with the other side through things like dark sight, the wellspring washes that away, the hunters we are playing as are not dead

stoic leaf
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Where can I read the Louisiana Incident in game? I saw that you can find it in the lobby but I don’t see it

wintry panther
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It is on the Hunt website as well and was in the beta, was removed though at 1.0 and rereleased

stoic leaf
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ah okay, thanks!

wintry panther
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Here is the link to the pdf

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And here is the website link

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@stoic leaf

stoic leaf
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big thanks partner

wintry panther
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I gotchu

rotund ferry
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So the new legendary hunters posted on the Instagram page may represent a new faction in the Huntverse. Both new hunters fit the Yakuza aesthetic perfectly

polar fable
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Uhm yakuza is a Japanese thing and I’m pretty sure the new hunters are Chinese. In any case, the Chinese were not a minority in 1895 so their addition is absolutely logical

rotund ferry
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After a second inspection you’re right 😂 that sword and the first characters shirt are very Chinese

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Which makes much more sense

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Thanks for pointing that out

haughty light
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..... or you could have remembered that In 1895 Japanese were probably still carrying muskets and katanas as wepons, and that only really china saw straw hats as that cool, there are less annoying reasons to realise it was more of a Chinese character than the sword and the clothing,... you could have even noticed the fact that they actually look chinese not japanese,... or are you so blind, you cant even tell the diffrence?

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But yeah lore wise their pretty fitting characters,

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and yakuza probably wasnt even
a thing in 1895,

narrow halo
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(He really doesn't)

spiral lynx
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chill bro, if someone mistakin western and asian then that's somethin but if you've been to china and japan, it is not that easy to call out who is who with a first glance

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anyway, anyone can tell me about the source of this plague? i read the notes and the devs said it was half science and half voodoo stuff

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and with the 'sculptor' being mentioned, i'm confused

wicked glacier
amber harbor
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New lore hell yeah

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Looks like Hardin did a bit of child slavery, cool

spiral lynx
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and he sends the kids out at night

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with gun it's a bit understandable but knives?

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poor kids

hard crane
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Jesus Christ

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So I understand why Hardin's reputation went down the drain...

misty iron
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This tab probably gets this question every other day but is there anywhere that just has the lore all together so I can read it?

grave heart
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@misty iron i think the pins in this channel are your best bet rn

misty iron
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thanks

wintry panther
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@misty iron i have pinned pdfs of all the lore available although the book of weapons hasnt been updated with the newest weapons, i have to add that and report. and the legendaries doesnt include the newest additions so i have to add those too

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if you want to read the entries for the new weapons check the hunt wiki because they are also posted there

marsh crest
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I assumed he called them kids because they were really young compared to him, not because they were actual children. Either way, yikes.

spiral lynx
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oh you right

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should've thought about that

spiral lynx
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interesting how he said it was desperate time though

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raise some question about what is so desperate

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was it the plague? why so desperate you ran out of hunters? or he is not related to the AHA and try to fix this his own way

marsh crest
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I think it was before the infestation was relegated to the areas we visit in game, back when it was running rampant and people were becoming monsters left and right. I'm guessing a shortage of manpower that lead to the authorities using anyone they could find, regardless of age or criminal record.

spiral lynx
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Hardin sounds less sinister when you think it that way

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although it seems to me that the plague spread quicker than anyone could react

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seeing that 'painting dude' died in a...painting chair? in one of the map like he didn't even know what hit him

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but i might miss some details

amber harbor
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I think that one is just a bob ross reference

bold tiger
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Lol the guys with the knives are better off, too bad they don't know how to hitstun the enemies I guess

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Also the people hardin set out should've grabbed axes and sledges

amber harbor
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I doubt kids could handle those, and they're harder to make

spiral lynx
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kind of sure they can stab someone more than 4 times till their stamina runs out

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but also sure the grunt wouldn't be as forgiving as in the game either

sinful trout
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@wintry panther shit i forgot to give you permission to edit the doc didnt i

wintry panther
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@sinful trout lolol i think so XD

sinful trout
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dm me your email and ill allow access

forest condor
wintry panther
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@forest condor why have i never thought of that

forest condor
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@wintry panther It's what I do

dusk onyx
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suprised they didnt add a bow and arrow

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or any indian characters

wicked glacier
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yeah

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but it was suggested a long time ago

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indians i mean

mental creek
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Someone said to me that they had read that the spider used to be a sheriff whom was a racist.... is there any truth to that?

glossy falcon
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The Spider is made up of multiple bodies, not just one. So while plausible most likely not as the Devs have a strict guideline against any racism.

mental creek
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I was bamboozled I guess

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Also Jesse could I report someone, I've been receiving abuse from?

glossy falcon
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Dm me

wintry panther
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@mental creek No sherriff who was racist here, if you want the book of monsters pdf has the whole thing or i'll link a reddit post I made that summarizes each monsters origin

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Here you go!

rotund ferry
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aight so I’m sorta interested in getting a legendary hunter

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but I’m curious

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Sheriff Hardin, what entries can I find lore on him?

willow cargo
rotund ferry
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Well shit thanks

wintry panther
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Hardin is also slightly talked about in the book of weapons

modest plover
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if you get a legendary hunter and they die, do i gotta pay more blood bonds to get them again?

amber harbor
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no

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you pay 333 hunt dollars, but this is not the chat to ask that question

wraith cove
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is their any lore on the reverend anyone could point me towards

rose compass
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The legendary weapon Altar Boy is his, and I believe he leads one of the main factions within AHA.

amber harbor
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true, and I think he also appears in the immolator entries

wraith cove
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i knew the first part is thats all their is in him

marsh crest
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I like how the preacher just happens to have an ornamental version of one of the most advanced weapons of his time just laying about in his church.

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It's like if a pastor today kept an AK leaning against the confessional booth.

amber harbor
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Preacher : So tell me your confession
Ak watching you with malicious intent

wraith cove
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advanced except in the way of tube feed smh

wicked glacier
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He is obviously a gun enthusiast

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Bet he worked with the carcass gunrunner to get it

hard crane
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Ehhhhhhh

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Lebel isn't that advanced by 1895

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Was hot shit in 1886 though

ocean mist
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Weird Sister best char

forest condor
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the avto would be the most advanced, then the specter probably

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the vetterli is just a better lebel in the way of it's internal mechanics

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and the bomblance exists too

naive sinew
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reminds me - what's an avto?

marble canopy
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Mosin Nagant Avtomat

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The fully auto Mosin

naive sinew
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Ah ok.

willow cargo
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surely the browning auto 5 would be considered more advanced than the spencer no?

forest condor
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Hek forgot about that

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The spenderbdoes have a more technical mechanism

bold tiger
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Mosin would be most advanced

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Or nagant revolver because of its unique cylinder mechanism and double action.

marble canopy
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"advanced" is a meaningless term

bold tiger
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Yeah

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Complicated does not mean useful

naive sinew
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Davinci machines come to mind.

forest condor
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@bold tiger nagant over mosin because of the year they came up

forest condor
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But the mosin has an extremely simple mechanism

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It's just newer

marsh crest
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Okay, to clear things up, I'm aware the Lebel isn't cutting edge but, in comparison to a good chunk of the weapons available to us, it's still technically impressive for the time and not something you'd likely see an average joe carrying around, much less a priest.

hard crane
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I mean, it's almost 10 years old by this point in the lore

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With just under 3.5 million rifles made

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I don't see how it's unlikely for a priest to get his hands on one

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Not that rare

naive sinew
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How many citizens did USA even have in that year?

wintry panther
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There are censuses available for 1890 that would give a good understanding of how many people there were. It is considered a significant census due to the surveys it did of Union veterans after the Civil war

rotund ferry
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I wonder why the reverend would spring for a French rifle with limited access to ammunition instead of buying a more practical American rifle

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Food for thought 🤔

gloomy night
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Why not? If he has magical Hell powers, he can conjure up more bullets.

hard crane
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Because the French rifle was the first to use smokeless powder

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Literally three times more powerful compared to black powder

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If he got it in the late 80s it would have been the most powerful/advanced rifle he could get

rotund ferry
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I could see if a sect of his church was sending out engraved Lebels to its practitioners, to me that makes more sense than him purchasing it

dull quail
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What is the lore of it?

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A topia world because of an unknown chemical spillage, mysterious magic that consumed earth and many people with it, or a being that caused all of this like game of thrones night king

hard crane
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A lebel in this time period would have value to firearms enthusiasts too

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I know a priest that loves old school British stuff

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Webleys, Martini Henrys, that kind of stuff

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So if a priest that grew up with black powder, something like a Lebel would be a real novelty to have in his collection

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Being that caused all of this Riddle

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From another dimension

dull quail
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Maybe

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All of the creatures in it seem like weird mutants tbh

hard crane
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They're deliberately made

dull quail
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Made as a weapon?

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Maybe

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Also @hard crane sorry for the pin but how do you get the lore hardcore rank?

hard crane
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I've got no idea lol

junior pecan
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@dull quail “ghost” colloquially referred to as sculptor is futzing about in louisiana through a hole between dimensions. Caused a plague that turned people into monsters and is reviving them over and over, for what purpose we don’t know. Hunters kill them to sell to the American Hunters Association who uses the “Bounties” for ritual purposes.

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There’s more lore but that’s the basis. Pretty much everything we have is theory though because devs decided to make everything an untrustworthy source.

forest condor
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Not reviving them, when they're dead they're dead, the only ones being "revived" are the bosses

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And we don't know how that works

junior pecan
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@forest condor Hive lore. Says explicitly that it’s the same person/people reanimated in one or multiple instances. That’s why there’s so many meatheads, only a few were created and sculptor just replicated it multiple times.

amber harbor
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@junior pecan that doesnt mean ressurection. Thqt way, there could only be one hive at a time. My theory is cloning by meat mass or teleportation to our world from theirs

junior pecan
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@amber harbor now you’re getting into concepts of identity, a replication of a dead individual is, in my books, cloning/reviving, not definitively one or the other. It’s not teleportation because the loa world probably isn’t tangible, nor is the connection strong enough for that. If it was, spider wouldn’t have its purpose.

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I do agree with biomass manipulation though, that seems most likely what with the sculptor’s original creations so far.

forest condor
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@junior pecan the running theory is the sculpter is changing people to fit a mold, which is as close to cloning as plastic surgery to look like someone else is

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It's not reviving

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A clone of someone also isn't inherently that person, and woudnt be reviving them

rotund ferry
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He’s

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Sculpting them

forest condor
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Ba dum crash

amber harbor
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there was also talk of that person's soul being held in an endless cycle, but I can't remember if that was theory or canon

forest condor
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THAT was relating to the bosses

junior pecan
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@forest condor So if sculptor is holding Vincent Lott's (Assassin) soul in this endless cycle, why would he not also hold the others'? A soul being a bound thing to the body means it can only be lost in an unfaithful recreation, the fact that grunts wear clothing at all shows that sculptor is recreating them precisely, so it would not be too far fetched to assume the soul follows with the body.

As for the debate of mimicry VS revival, if a being holds the ability to shape life in the manner of a god, and all life being a creation of god, is it not fair to say that his recreation of a particular individual qualifies as a revival, rather than a mimicry. The argument boils down to if you believe a man to be defined by his evident history, or his blueprint. If I have a clone who looks, thinks, acts, and behaves just as I do, is he not me? And if my existence ceases upon his creation, is he not a continuation of me? Does his origin influence his identity?

Honestly, I'd cede that second argument to you, it is semantics and a technicality, but no the grunts are not revivals, only clones.

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@amber harbor I agree with your belief in cloning by biomass, but it would be simpler for the entity to repair the corpses of said grunt/hive/armored. However, The Sculptor has already shown himself to be inarticulate in his corporeal abilities, what with the haphazard design of all his creations. Butcher, Spider, Immolator all exist as happenstance, not deliberate design.

forest condor
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the grunts were the only outlier to the "mold" theory

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also the clone entering at the same time you're terminated (example star trek teleportation) i'd say it's not you since your original body was destroyed

junior pecan
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Three things,

  1. Are these theories recorded anywhere? I had interpreted them, or other theories resembling them, as fact directly from the Books, too implicit for a name.
  2. If by outlier you mean exempt, then why would they not be covered under said theory (although I am unfamiliar with it, I assume it follows the same/similar logic of my own conclusions).
  3. Again, a technicality and more a philosophical debate than diction argument. I, as I said before, cede that argument to you.
amber harbor
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We're getting into Soma levels of existentialism here

junior pecan
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Good game

dull quail
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@junior pecan thanks 😄

twilit kraken
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does dvb allow hunters to only see other hunters or any other humans?

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it also noticeably doesn't hilight your own teammates but hilights you to yourself for some reason

junior pecan
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Dvb?

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If you’re talking about dark sight boost, we got no lore on that.

west sinew
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Perhaps it is an ability that the bosses have, one that you gain (albiet probably a weak version) and highlights people that are hostile to you

forest condor
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@junior pecan sorry for the late reply, i'm saying they appear to be the outlier because they have more than one model and appear to be a very basic change compared to a complete rework of what they fundamentally are

junior pecan
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@forest condor no worries on reply. They’ve still the slugs, and I don’t see where the bodies could come from, people aren’t gonna be wandering in anymore

forest condor
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but those that were there are the ones that were changed

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the only ones free of the sculpter's influence are the hunters

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the leeches in them are one thing I believe is controlling most of the "lesser" changed beings

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for instance, the dogs don't have much about them changed and neither do the grunts

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and they both have the leeches

junior pecan
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@forest condor I still believe that the bodily changes of the AI are not deliberate, but random mutation caused by the sickness and replicated by sculptor. He didn’t design them, he facilitated their change and cloned them depending on their effectiveness

forest condor
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i'm saying that seems to be the case for most special ai but not for the grunts

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/doggos but they also seem to be a side affect

earnest jungle
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My theory is that if the Bosses and the Marked are sculpted by the Sculptor. Then the grunts and all of the dead bodies are where he gets his clay

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And I lean towards the theory that the Grunts are reanimated corpses. The lore states that even after being rendered inert their “hearts” continue to beat/convulse.

jovial stump
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and here i thought a witch had cursed the land

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everyone going insane! slowly but surely

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and the curse area is bound to the monsters! which we hunt

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lol

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i mean they ARE holding tools sometimes soooo

spiral lynx
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what is the sound that we hear when use dark sight?

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i have a feeling it's not ours since it sounds male even when you use it on female hunter

forest condor
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it's the whispering your hunter is doing to keep darksight open

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@earnest jungle if they're corpses how can we unafflict them? we know it's possible from a QNA from awhile ago

earnest jungle
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If they’re not corpuses how exactly do they manage to survive with base ball sized chunks of their heads missing and cannon ball sized holes in their chests.

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Some of these grunts have their god damn faces sliced off.

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Besides in the Spider Lore we are told that those grunts that are killed will eventually rise out of the grave again. The only person we know that was cured was William Salter, and he didn’t seem to cured in his journals.

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“Too many pits excavated, in earth turned a hundred times, plowed by processions or hunters burying the dead and killing them again.”

marsh crest
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I love how people theorize that Hellhounds may just be normal rabid dogs when they're oh, I don't know, MISSING THE SKIN ON THEIR FACE.

uncut robin
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there's missing posters for dogs that look a lot like the hellhounds

wintry panther
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@marsh crest the lore talks about bunny and what happened, but what we do know is that hunter blood messes with nature. Thats how water devils came to be. so maybe the blood of a hunter also brought these dogs into the next dimension of messed up

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Then again look at this

rose compass
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Pretty sure the missing dog posters are OF Bunny.

uncut robin
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i think so yeah

old star
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Hey so I know there's a lore doc, I dont know how outdated the QnA in it is, but it says they'd explain dark sight in the future. Did that ever end up happening?

amber harbor
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Not really afaik

fading plaza
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Where can I find the lore sheets?

amber harbor
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Pinned message @fading plaza

fading plaza
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Thank you @amber harbor

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@slim hatch I have been looking around, and haven't found anything yet, but is there an in world explanation for dark sight? What it is, where it comes from, etc?

slim hatch
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Poke me in some 15min again and I’ll try explaining

fading plaza
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@slim hatch poke

slim hatch
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Okay

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So basically now bare with me I'm strongest in Vanilla lore

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Essentially original Dark Sight was an inheritable ability or unlockable via a ritual

fading plaza
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I read that just now yeah

slim hatch
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What dark sight is, is dark magic ability to kinda look between the worlds.

fading plaza
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It's an AHA thing

slim hatch
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Yes

fading plaza
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Yeah

slim hatch
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All hunters unlock the ability during their initation that's the TL;DR of it

fading plaza
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Now, using it damns you to hell? Or slowly eats your soul?

slim hatch
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It drains you yeah

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Like a corruption

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As described now in some old entries it basically putrefies the user

fading plaza
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But, there is also a beckoning of hell

slim hatch
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Hence the hunt for Wellspring by hunters are who're close to expiring

fading plaza
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Oh that's cool

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Now, the event is a disease correct?

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Or gas it been classified a curse?

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Has*

slim hatch
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It's entity messing with a world

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So it's not really a disease, gas or a curse

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it's just dark magic messing with the world

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Hello daddy sculptor unless they retconned it too

fading plaza
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Ok and are hunters immune to this corruption due to their rituals or are the susceptible but we just dont see that as a gameplay thing

severe mulch
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Man really hope these questions get answered one way or another. Lore and backstories at half the reason I play this game.

amber harbor
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@fading plaza they have slowed corruption rate

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Hence the 1 hour mission timer

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The more they spend in a corrupted area the more they are influenced by the sculptor

severe mulch
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Also did anyone notice if the characters mentioned in the logs exist? Prof William salter for an example?

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If they're playable I mean

amber harbor
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Most major characters are not playable in game

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We did get Hardin and the marshall who are still big but not that big

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Except harold black

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He is a modern day hero

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He is the one who conductred research on the voudou stufff

severe mulch
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Mhm haven't seen any voodoo stuff yet. Quite early on the lore stuff but it intrigues me. Glad this game has the details

amber harbor
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By voudou stuff I mean the creatures

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Voudou is the ideology we have taht is closest to the actuql truth withthe entities and such

junior pecan
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We’ve also seen a little bit of Hindu practiced as well. It’s a mix, meant to be rationalized rather than conforming to one specific religion.

severe mulch
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Hindu? Where have we seen Hinduism in the game?

slim hatch
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@fading plaza They are susceptible to corruption

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As i said

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usage of dark magic carries its toll

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That's why the WellSpring hunt is so important

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Kebab is also correct they have internal and external corruption

fading plaza
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Ahhhhh. And, when a hunter becomes corrupt, are they immolators?

slim hatch
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NO

fading plaza
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Oop

slim hatch
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There is no lore to back it up to my knowledge

fading plaza
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I asked wrong thing lol

slim hatch
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When they go corrupted they fall to Sculptor's will

fading plaza
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Ahhhhhhhhh where can I read about sculptor

slim hatch
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The name was coined by community based on early lore texts

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You can look around pins in #lore-discussion-hardcore and i don't know if the 2nd generation transcribed that part or not but probably pins here too

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If anything it's strange that you asked me that question considering I've been hiding

junior pecan
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@S𝖙𝖊𝖕𝖍𝖊𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖒𝖔𝖓#3754 we got no lore on sculptor, just a lot of speculation

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@severe mulch Pax Claw, the magic circle crossing method is native to Hinduism. Saying that off memory though so feel free to re-research

severe mulch
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Will do! This is hella interesting

manic sequoia
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Hey does the lore mention a place called Crouxville?

lilac dove
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idk

manic sequoia
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Aight. Just got bored and looked around the map and saw some barrels that said United States Crouxville and I think it said 1885

rare garden
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Does anyone know anything about the Isaac Powell’s cult?

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I’ve been trying to read up on it, but there isn’t much there

wintry panther
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THere isnt too much available on each of the cults as of now although the teams are interested in diving more into them

rare garden
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Thank you

wraith cove
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is the Reverend have his own cult or anything along those lines or is he just there

tall valve
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hey . u can lose the Dlc characters if u die ?

dense vector
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@tall valve pretty sure that's a question for the qna section not the lore discussion, but to answer your question they die permanently like every other hunter but you can buy them and use them again for $333 like all the legendary characters.

tall valve
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ty @dense vector

junior pecan
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@wraith cove Reverend has his own faction, yes. Honestly I wouldn’t consider Powell’s group a cult. It’d be like calling Mormonism a cult. Just a bizarre branch of Christianity.

rotund ferry
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😂

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I need to show this to my Mormon friends

rugged anchor
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I'm sure I could find it somewhere in one of the lore channels or elsewhere but I'm gonna be lazy and ask. When is the game set? With the Dolch included (which models the Mauser C96) It'd have to be later. Assuming it's following the real world on that one.

polar fable
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It’s set in 1895 but some weapons such as as Dolch are considered prototypes. I’m pretty sure that there was a real prototype of Mauser C96 irl in 1895 so it’s not too much of a stretch. One more thing to mention is the fact that hunters are supplied with the best weapons there are as the AHA is a powerful organization that can afford it. So yeah, 1895 it is

rugged anchor
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Awesome, thanks for the knowledge 🙂

polar fable
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No problem, mate!

rugged anchor
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Like Rachta said, I'm hoping they add the Cei-Rigotti and maybe...Maybe...A Maxim 😏

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Being a bit of a gun nut, I ogle at all of the interesting weapons in this game.

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With that being said, I think the Cei might be a bit of a stretch.

sly granite
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maxim

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I fear no man, but that thing.

rotund ferry
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I want to see a Gewehr 98 myself

rotund ferry
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Winchester model 1895, add to the glorious Winfield family

digital talon
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Krag jorgenson bb that would be a beautiful addition. That or a Remington model 8. Or both ;D

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I'm assuming with the ear ringing plan, they plan to add more semis

opaque gazelle
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joined the discord for the lore after not finding anything on the interwebs

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everything about this game just captivates me

wintry panther
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@opaque gazelle then you have come to the right place

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if you checked pinned messages you will find docs with the complete book of monsters and weapons (except the new weapons, you can check the wiki for those)

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also an old qna and some other lore material from the hunt showdown website

opaque gazelle
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thank you, I am reading the first qna now. is there any order of reading you recommend?

wintry panther
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If you want a summary of each monster and a slightly dated overall lore then here you go!

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Depends on what you want to know

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the qna is dated pre-release of the book of monster and weapons so might want to start with those

opaque gazelle
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ohh that reddit thread looks like what I wanted :p

wintry panther
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also the book of weapons have a ton of journals so for those, a good place to start is the "bad As They Seem" story about the two twins who drove the American Hunters Association (AHA) into chaos

opaque gazelle
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ok, sounds good. seems like all of the lore is provided through primary sources

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that's so cool

wintry panther
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Yeah its supposed to be a kind of uncover what happened to each of these characters and following stories from different people's pov

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I love it

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makes for a kind of mystery to uncover

midnight grove
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I just wish there was more of it.

wintry panther
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Well they are planning to dive more into it

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So hopefully the lore is expanded upon greatly soon

visual finch
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So, as for what we know now, what are the different faction of the AHA ?

frank laurel
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ty

junior pecan
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@visual finch There’s a lot. Reverend, Lynch, Huff, Powell, Hardin, Dr John, and Leander Coetzee all have their own posses of undetermined size. They don’t do anything though, no power plays, no intrigue, little betrayal and no consolidation of power. They’re like street gangs without the gang war. Russel implies that they weren’t fighting at some point, but it certainly doesn’t seem that way.

visual finch
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Thank you!

junior pecan
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@wintry panther Twins didn’t drive it into chaos, Lynch did. They just banned Lynch

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the "bad As They Seem" story about the two twins who drove the American Hunters Association (AHA) into chaos

wintry panther
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Yeah the intro is a little old since we got new info with the bornheim match that came out

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@proper cradle do you think you can pin this pdf?

proper cradle
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I think I can

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but will I 🤔

proper cradle
wintry panther
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ty

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❤️

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Do you have the willpower for one more? This one will require you to remove the previous pinned version too

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and pin this one

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@proper cradle

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Youll be my fav mod

stiff vector
wintry panther
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dayum Fab stealing all the attention haha

stiff vector
wintry panther
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Ty fav mod

proper cradle
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you are welcome

charred comet
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Did the Civil War awaken the demons in the Bayou?

junior pecan
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@charred comet huh, he has no knowledge of the lore and yet he poses an interesting question. If the loa realm exists between ours and heaven, then mass spiritual exodus would likely have some effect. As for your question salsa, no they aren’t demons, nor were they awakened. It’s more complicated than that. Sculptor, the spirit doing all this, has either reduced their minds to feral behavior, or he has very limited control of all of them.

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They’re meat puppets more than anything. The bio-punk equivalent of Frankenstein’s monster

charred comet
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Interesting

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Apologies for not knowing the lore, I know some of the juicier bits of where the monsters originated, but that’s about it

junior pecan
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It’s cool, wasn’t accusing you of anything, just remarking on how good of an idea it was

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Honestly, I’m just happy to know more people are interested in the lore. Most of it’s lacking and ambiguous, but some of my theories keep me here, hoping for confirmation.

charred comet
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Awesome

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So this game has a loa mythology about it?

wintry panther
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Partial loa yup! The strongest influences coming from the "Bad as they seem" journals

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You can read them in the pinned section here

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@charred comet

keen vector
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How come when a player is holding the bounty. But when the bounty is alive and youre near it.. The bosses don't have a similar glow?

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is there a lore reason why players glow when holding bounty?

junior pecan
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@keen vector no lore reason but theory might reveal something. The bounty has been said to be a part of the bosses’ souls. Seeing how it is valued by the AHA, it is probably akin to a mineral or gemstone. Not to say that it is a rock, but that it is a less than common and more than valuable item found when digging through the “dirt” that is the rest of the soul. In layman’s terms, it’s probably ghost energy required to suspend the bosses in our reality. So, if you have a larger soul comprised of dirt ( the normal soul) and a gem (the bounty), then it follows that you couldn’t see the gleam of this gem without wiping away the dirt. TLDR: can’t see the bounty because it’s somewhere inside the bosses, probably the heart

amber harbor
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Devs said that bosses go into defense mode when the hunt starts. Maybe that power to sense danger is what hunters use when using dsb

rotund ferry
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The bosses can probably sense hunters coming given that all the hunters have a small piece of the corruption within them

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It makes me think that the whispers are the bosses “tattling” on other hunters to initiate a gun fight

keen vector
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Hey Prowler that makes a lot of sense.

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thanks

forest condor
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I believe we discussed if the bosses could use dsb and when we pick up the bounty we get that same power

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Remember that money isn't the only reason some hunters go out into the bayou

hushed nova
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So.

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I've got a weird theory that I haven't seen brought up in the pinned stuff, though I may be blind.

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My theory is that the immolators are the damned souls from Quickplay.

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Things seem to be broken up into insect-themed, Ritual Blood Related, or both, except the Immolator.

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In quickplay, if you don't succeed, you're lost to damnation, and visibly burn up.

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Aside from burning from the inside, there's nothing mutated about the immolator. No clawed arms like the Armored, no giant chest nest like the Hive, no Leech mass like the Meathead. Could theoretically be the burned, damned personage of any hunters.

junior pecan
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@hushed nova Immolators are clones of Reverend Jeremy Byrne, who, after early exposure to ‘plague’ and getting the shit kicked out of him, burst into flames.

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Something to do with spiritual energy straight from god actually. Quite the concept.

hushed nova
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Really now. I read that and assumed it to rather be something more along the lines of...

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Reverend dies out in the Bayou, wakes up and returns home, gets the shit kicked out of him and dies again during that, becoming an immolator.

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They just really don't seem like part of this Sculptor's theme, and complications arising from the ritual blood has occurred before with the Water Devils and Hellhounds, which then infect, propagate, and get cloned by the Sculptor.

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And Crytek keeps trying to weave gameplay and lore with each other as much as possible. And having both your successes and your failures quickplay be a part of the gameplay and story seems right up their alley.

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But if it involves siphoning spiritual energy straight from god during and possibly using the scripture he was reciting that would also make sense.

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The origin wasn't necessarily from the Sculptor, but they're cloning him anyway.

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Honestly I really love the lore in this game because of how much there is to dig into, and that everything encourages you to draw lines between the dots you find.

wise hazel
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Is there a document like a wiki or google doc that kind of compiles the lore? I'm looking to make a dnd or rpg supplement (maybe deadlands idk) based/inspired by Hunt but am having a hard time tracking down all the lore lol

wintry panther
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@wise hazel ifyou checked the pinned section here you will see that there are pinned documents with the book of weapons and monster and everything you would need

wise hazel
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awesome tyty

wintry panther
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No problem 🙂 You have to post a pic once you finish! Sounds like it will be fun

wise hazel
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thanks, will do!

stark parrot
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Hey hunters, I'm having a hard time understanding the Louisiana Event, I thought it was a basic zombie epidemic, but that doesn't explain where Immolators and banishes come from. Help?

wintry panther
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There is a little intro here to break it all down

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Basically a cosmic being is invading from another dimension, and is resurrecting the dead and creating monsters to steal souls

junior pecan
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@stark parrot Ok. We’ve got an alien dimension with what the Louisiana Voodoo religion refers to as Loa. They’re often considered as demigods, but in practice we are uncertain what they are. We know that they respond to certain rituals and prayer, but we can’t explain said methods of interaction, they’re older than language. Every once in a while, a Loa or other being from this other reality will plop itself in a rift between ours and their reality. Sometimes, it’s just a ghost, and the American Hunters Association shows up, banished it back to its own reality, and making money off the whole event by using what we refer to as “bounties”. “Bounty” is used in two senses, in one, hunters are paid to kill the monsters in the bayou by the AHA, in the other sense, we’ve been led to believe they have a spiritual application that translates to real world benefit. Now, what’s happening in Louisiana is a loa, colloquially referred to as Sculptor, has mutated the people living in the bayou, and cloning these mutations for a purpose we don’t yet understand. On top of that, the AHA is known for less than reputable members who will kill each other for the bounties.

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TLDR: what Caucasian said without the souls part

stark parrot
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Goddamn thanks a lot guys @junior pecan @wintry panther

silk walrus
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Can someone give me a general explanation of the lore

warm lagoon
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@silk walrus check the pinned channel messages for lore docs

willow marten
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I honestly love that this game goes into crazy Lovecraftian/cosmic horror with it's lore. Also fits the time period perfectly aswell, since H.P. was very prominent in his writing in the late 1800's and early 1900's

wintry panther
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Blended with the voudou nature of the bayou and I think it’s a match made in heaven

willow marten
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Agreed 100% They've made such an alien yet realistic atmosphere, and world with this game by combining Louisiana folklore with cosmic deities

raven kindle
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is it ever explained how the bloody assassin went to a town disguised and not only didnt get found out but also not kill anyone?

junior pecan
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@raven kindle Vincent was his own dude. Whether he is now in Cahoots with Sculptor, or if he is possessed is not clear.

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He wasn’t disguised, that’s just who he is

raven kindle
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ye but like he could alraeady scale walls and create bugs

junior pecan
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@raven kindle And hunters can be resurrected from the dead. Many things can be accomplished through the occult. Just gotta know the right rituals

raven kindle
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mhhhhhh i dont buy it

amber harbor
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We dont have a lot of info about that part @raven kindle .Its still a mystery

raven kindle
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very much

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but mysteries are nice

civic pilot
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@willow marten As an avid reader of Lovecraft I do highly disagree with the notion that Hunts lore is comparable to the Lovecraftian horrors that Howard was set out to represent in his writings. The cosmic horror is meant to be an unseen thing, so dreadful you'd go mad by just a mere glimpse. Nothing beats it, it's designed to be the worst.

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Although, I do enjoy hunts lore. I'd like to read more of it.

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I do admit to being new to the Lore of Hunt however

willow marten
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Yeah but the Sculptor could easily be put into the same category as something like Nyalarthotep, Dagon or Cthulhu. It has yet to be seen, but is apparently causing the Louisiana Event. That's what I was mostly referring to with cosmic horror influence. It literally is described as an alien being as well, just like Lovecraft's creations. That combined with the voodoo of the bayou, it is kind of it's own thing though. But that's what makes the lore fun....the theories. If you read what @junior pecan said above my post. You'll see where my connection comes from with H.P. and the Bayou @civic pilot

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It's fun to just discuss the lore though, and nice to see a fellow advocate of Lovecraft Cheers

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And it's excellent to see others interested in the lore of Hunt aswell

civic pilot
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Yes, I did read that. I found it intriguing with such a thing as a Sculptor. I do see where you got the comparison from. The Lovecraftian horrors are the Old Gods, cosmic beings whose impact destroy worlds. I find that the Sculptor is a very interesting and somewhat fitting idea into Lovecraftian horror, but I am also led to believe that the impact of the Sculptor isn't large enough, on an environmental or worldly scale. It's goal doesn't seem to be to be worshipped, thus perhaps torment and dread is more to it's liking. In Howard's writings you will find that the old gods power are so astounding that if, for example Azathoth, would stop dreaming, the entire world as we know it would simply come to an end.

The Sculptor though, I love it's concept. But I would probably compare him to a spawn of Cthulhu, rather than an old god itself.

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@willow marten

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And indeed! I do wish to speak to more advocates of Lovecraft myself.

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Including hunts lore

willow marten
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True. The Sculptor definitely would be more in line with something like one of Cthulhu's spawns. Also, how Prowler described the bayou and "mutations" reminded me of Innsmouth, and a little bit of The Zone from Roadside Picnic/Stalker

civic pilot
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Absolutely haha

lunar bison
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Man, I like to read Lovecraft aswell... But I haven't read much at all... My extremely bad concentration lvl fucks that one for me xD

willow marten
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Haha, well it's definitely worth it if you can get a good reading session in. And if you can stomach H.P.'s insane grammar and vocabulary

lunar bison
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Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm not even a native english speaker, so I don't understand mucg xD

willow marten
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Fair enough. Atleast you're interested though Cheers

lunar bison
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Yeah for sure, they are cool stories. But so far I like The beast in the cave (think it's that one) and Memory. (the last one is a friends favourite).

willow marten
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At The Mountains of Madness, The Colour Out of Space, and The Shadow Over Innsmouth are all excellent and I highly recommend those aswell. If you haven't read them yet

lunar bison
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No I have not, might start on one tonight when I go to bed.

junior pecan
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@civic pilot @willow marten Information concerning the loa is theory, it isn’t based in lore, only rationale, so it’s even more debatable. Personally, I think Sculptor is more equivalent to the AHA faculty than an old god. If you follow “mirror” theory, then sculptor doesn’t understand what he’s doing. The loa have little to no biological element. When you think of a spirit or ghost you think of a gaseous, immaterial being. That’s what the lesser and greater loa are, gaseous, spiritual. True biology confuses them, that’s why hives and grunts are cloned with their clothes, because he doesn’t understand what makes them effective at killing hunters, just that they are. He can’t make sense of it all, so he just leaves it as is. Judging by the level of control he has over the monsters of the bayou, either his control has been limited, or he has a mental faculty of somewhere between 100 and 1000 people. But he cannot interact with matter easily, nor does he have a full understanding of it. His interactions are limited to spiritual influence, which can in turn influence the biology of an earthly creature in some manner yet known to either party.

willow marten
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That is an extremely cool and interesting theory @junior pecan

junior pecan
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Ty, I fear that the devs may be going with a simpler “big spirit is evil because evilness” canon

willow marten
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I hope not. There is sooooo much potential with the lore of this game, if you really dig into it

rotund ferry
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Avtomat lore?

violet trellis
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very big shoot shoot gun

wintry panther
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Read the documents behind it actually its pretty interesting

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its a prototype

junior pecan
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@rotund ferry designed by night of the hunter. First wielded by some unimportant dude who stole the documents

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That’s it

wintry panther
junior pecan
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Still don’t know why he was after the twins

willow marten
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This games lore continues to impress me with how deep it actually goes

wintry panther
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It goes deep. if you havent read there are more journals on their website too that I have compiled into the pinned doc news

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The weapons have voynich on them that sometimes translate into phrases and give a little more background

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and there is some interesting lore to be had through other points too like the lousisana case files that investigates everything going on in i think it was 1915 by the us gov

willow marten
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Whaaat?! That's too cool. I'm definitely checking out that pinned document Cheers

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Every chance I get and when I see an updated entry in my Monstrom and Weapons sections of the Library....I always end up going in and reading every little detail. Really impressed and interested with the event that Crytek has been trying to make within the world of Hunt. Also the news articles and journal entries are super immersive to me aswell

wintry panther
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I love them all, it is such an interesting and morbidly fascinating world. I just wish there was so much more of it

willow marten
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Agreed. The level of detail in the little set pieces on the maps, the writings, the atmosphere. It reminds me of old immersive sims like System Shock and rpg games like the Stalker series.

rotund ferry
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The Huot though? Weird it's in the game but that's just me.

junior pecan
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It’s an alternate reality huot with the mosin as the base weapon instead of a Canadian rifle. (I think it was Canadian)

dry vector
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Lore 💜

north apex
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I'm still uncovering it and wanna do the base stuff before I delve into all this, I'm loving the lore thus far

viscid stream
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@wintry panther wait is the serum from the blood of the sculptor?

wintry panther
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No that is taken from other dimensional beings but not the sculptor

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Basically harvesting demons

viscid stream
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and it seems like the clues itself is also the banishpoint

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no wonder its a deep dark hole

wintry panther
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yuup

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The clues are holes into the other dimension

viscid stream
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it feels like

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gazing into the abyss

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wait a moment

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aabyss

wintry panther
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it is what links the two worlds, and other hunters have gone into the abyss but have never returned

viscid stream
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wont we get idk crazy if the abyss looks back

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esp imharlotep

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forgot the name of my favorite lovecraftian

wintry panther
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Yuup

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thats why many hunters go mad

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Everything costs and there is a cost to gaining the powers of the hunters

viscid stream
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nyarlathotep

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there we go

wintry panther
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That is why tier 3 hunters look sick in comparison to tier 1 hunters

viscid stream
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yeah they jave eyebags

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and shaved heads

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so a lvl 50 hunter could be considered insane

devout cedar
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Tbh creating joke lore could be fun fab2

viscid stream
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why doesnt lynch rally hubters

wintry panther
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Another cool thing: so your health bar is actually your lifespan. and that is why if you get burned you lose it. and when you get revived, you sacrifice some of your lifespan to get back up. but banishing a boss brings it back

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Lynch cares only for her own interest and manipulated the AHA

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@devout cedar lets do it

viscid stream
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idnt her interest to kill the scultptor

devout cedar
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Dennis will be something like Sculptor Kappa

wintry panther
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Dennis is the Sculptor, Maq is the spider, Beedy is the Butcher

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Fab is the dogs in the cage

devout cedar
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Ic3man the assassin SmugEddy

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I wonder, is there a lore about caged dogs/chickens and horses?

wintry panther
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I believe on horses yes, its from the hellhound entry and has to do with a bunch of animals being released

viscid stream
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rachta
Nyarlathotep wearing the "waxen mask and the robes that hide

wintry panther
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dogs and chickens i think are just bayou

viscid stream
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phantom has a robe right

devout cedar
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Phantom lore archietvPog

viscid stream
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and also nyarlathotep is considered a messenger

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before i speak let me re read his lore

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and also i think it fits the phantom so much

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cuz their cult

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self amputates

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Self-mutilation is a sign of the cult: all have amputations or terrible scars from near-fatal whippings and beatings.

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mutilates my bad

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and you have a prosthetic arm

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disfigured face and a waxen mask

devout cedar
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We definitely need more phantom lore

viscid stream
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if the mask is removed it looks like this

wintry panther
viscid stream
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Nyarlathotep, however, is active and frequently walks the Earth in the guise of a human being, usually a tall, slim, joyous man

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Nyarlathotep seems to be deliberately deceptive and manipulative, and even uses propaganda to achieve his goals. In this regard, he is probably the most human-like among them.

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it fits u so much rachta

wintry panther
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That actually fits so well

viscid stream
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Don't fail to see Nyarlathotep if he comes to Providence. He is horrible — horrible beyond anything you can imagine — but wonderful. He haunts one for hours afterward. I am still shuddering at what he showed

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Unlike the other Outer Gods, spreading madness is more important and enjoyable than death and destruction to Nyarlathotep.

rare garden
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@wintry panther so I heard you’re a lore dealer.

wintry panther
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@rare garden depends, what kinda lore you looking for? People around town say a lot of things

rare garden
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Looking for some of the cult lore; specifically Powells cult. Mainly pertaining to the Night Acolyte

wintry panther
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Best things to learn from that are through the Mosin nagant entries. An outsiders look in. A little tease is legendary skins of the hunters in the legendary pdf and the Hunt showdown partners page here

rare garden
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I c I c

sleek iris
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Anybody know how to get the lone wolf trophy. Do you have to solo queue and kill the boss or can you have buddies but you only kill it?

ionic moth
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Don't think this is the right channel

coral charm
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Why on some of the legendary hunters, do some get a good paragraph n others like a line.

wintry panther
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@coral charm a lot of the characters don’t fit into the main narrative. And some have more lore that is hidden. For example the Researcher is Harold Black and the man behind the book of monsters. He is mentioned and writes all over the lore. The Rat is the daughter of the Mexican from the good, the bad, the ugly. And more, some characters are elaborated on in other documents some aren’t. I think the devs want to step more into the characters with future lore too. The black coat is the father of the twins from bad as they seem as well

coral charm
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hm alrighty then

timid tree
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Where can I go to read all the interesting lore for hunt

warm lagoon
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@timid tree check the pinned lore documents

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good place to start

timid tree
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@warm lagoon I’m quite new to the server so how exactly do I get to the pinned lore documents

warm lagoon
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top right corner of the channel

timid tree
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@warm lagoon thank u very much for that

grand acorn
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I wish to procure lore about the reverend if there is any, all I know is that he is mega sad that his church began killing eachother and decided to start his own crusade against the 'evil' and all that

amber harbor
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Immolator monstrorvm has something about the reverand

junior pecan
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That’s a different reverend

wraith cove
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well i know he owns the legendary lebel known as "alter boy" for one

pulsar briar
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@viscid stream Did you ever watch Boardwalk Empire? There’s a character on there who’s a massive bad ass, very similar mask to The Phantom

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The timeframe almost lines up too, but the guy from BWE is a vet from WW1

viscid stream
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might fit since these are the wpns of ww1

sterile sonnet
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whats the point of even having it at this point

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the section needs some sort of revival , i remember reading stuff over there with exitment back in the day

junior pecan
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I’m planning on throwing a dissertation on mirror theory in there. Maybe traditional lore questions and discussion will stay in here and lore theory can go to hardcore.

hidden shale
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Hoping we'll get a big pulse of story content some day. The ideal would be for lore-related objectives to be implemented in a manner similar to Battlefield 1's easter egg hunts.

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Complex processes, hidden interactables, cosmetic rewards.

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Another thing to do by intent or accidental discovery outside pure bountymurderins

amber harbor
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I feel like no game can reach bf levels of easter eggs

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My dream would be a secret campaign mode, something akin to the trading cards story, accessible only in bounty hunt by doing a series of specific things

flat atlas
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so, like quests in Tarkov?) I actually thought about that kind of thing, it would add some purpose to hunts beside just kill everything

wintry panther
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What I can start doing is posting summaries of what we know and summaries of each of the letters there

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If that will help revitalize lore or if anyone is interested

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What do you guys think? That can be a place to post material and here is more discussion of it

flat atlas
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sure, why not

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I read whatever entries we have in game, but they are drip fed slowly and require a bit of grinding

junior pecan
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I feel like summaries should exist in pinned section so that new guys can have instant access to it, the more advanced topics that require familiarity can be in hardcore, but I don’t think we talk about that stuff too much

wintry panther
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I know one of the problems with lore is availability. It’s super hard to get people into it when it is scattered and complex

flat atlas
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it's not even that complex, it's just a bit....in the background. You know. Just playing the game it's possible to never know anything about the world unless you go out of your way

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maybe some lore could be better incorporated into what players actually do in game

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I don't know. I'm not a game designer. Just a professional complainer :)

amber harbor
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Most lore links the gameplay to the background story, its supposed to not be in the center of atentiin

languid vapor
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Im in for the lore! Know nothing about the world of Hunt, even though I've been playing non-stop the last couple of weeks

rotund ferry
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last 10 days sooo many hackers

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is there a new produckt out or what. in my 2.5K hours if met 3 maximum and in the last 10 days 5 guys they didnt even try to hide it.

warm lagoon
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@rotund ferry keep this to lore discussions only please

flat atlas
delicate mantle
junior pecan
delicate mantle
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It's lore related if you squint

junior pecan
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I see now, still not exactly a discussion

delicate mantle
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Fair enough, I was just bored and wanted to end up on a FBI watch list

flat atlas
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it's amusing you thought you're not on it already

delicate mantle
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Perhaps, just for the record I did NOT saw off the barrel on my shotgun. I'm not going to catch a felony over a $150 shotgun

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Nor am I willing to pay $200 to do it legally

burnt fern
flat atlas
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that ain't a shotgun

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those are rifle barrels I'm pretty sure

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but it shoots in volleys

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is this a volley rifle?

burnt fern
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either way, ur gonna be swiss cheese
gimme

flat atlas
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it's technically a shotgun, where each pellet is an accurate bullet

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would be cool to have it, but how do you balance it lol

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shoot once, spend next 5 minutes reloading?

burnt fern
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pretty much

flat atlas
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well then bring it on

burnt fern
flat atlas
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sure, until some sneaky boy with a sledgehammer doinks you on the dome from behind

halcyon torrent
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haha, fucking nock gun

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Shouldnt have 5 minute reload - should just do 75dmg to the shooter in shoulder damage from the recoil

visual finch
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That's not for the lore channel

junior pecan
visual finch
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There's a lore explanation to monster corpse disappearing? Like consumed by the sculptor energy or something? or it's just performance balancing?

amber harbor
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@visual finch performance. Meatheads are the only ones whose corpses dont disappear

hidden shale
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I hope those optimisations can be relaxed if they don't have a plan to give them a more atmospheric 'fade'. Since grunts are all the same on the inside, all human, I'd like to see them at least remain in place as a static low-poly skeletal heap, implying rapid breakdown after whatever animates them fails.

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It would add a great tactical layer to find trails of dried up grunt bones/mouldering scraps in areas where they've died.

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I wouldn't even ask that they be accurately placed, just having some remains rise gently out of the ground somewhere near the place the grunt died as a visual marker, a clue, a reminder would add a lot compared to their instantaneous vanishing as it stands now.

visual finch
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That would be cool.

marble kernel
hidden shale
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Alrighty, I'll type something up.

hidden shale
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Done.

rose niche
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Hunt showdown Netflix series when? Thunk

flint crest
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You wanna see them butcher this license too?

grand acorn
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Yes

visual finch
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in the Empty Cairn skin is mentioned that "John Voelkel cursed himself piercing a black heart, "

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What is a black heart?

thin nimbus
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A black heart is usually used to refer to someone that's villainous or evil @visual finch

hidden shale
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With some hint of 'untrustworthy'. There's a connotation of black-hearted people having no ethics/honour/morality, of a propensity for betrayal.

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Very archaic, needless to say.

still frigate
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Netflix makes some good stuff idk why people hate it so much

junior pecan
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@visual finch it’s in the mosin entries, John was doing some serious voodoo shit to track down the twins, we don’t know what the black heart even was but it was part of a ritual. We don’t even know why he wants to track down Fin and Jos but we do know he doesn’t want to kill them.

lucid terrace
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I have to say this has a great setting and its very unique . The devs did a great job , i bought this three days ago and im not disappointed

still frigate
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It's extremely unique

sharp birch
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So, lore discussion. Can someone tell me what era this game is set in?

flat atlas
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late 1890s, but it's not a historic setting

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strongly aesthetically inspired more like

junior pecan
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Its 1895 and what do you mean not historic?

flat atlas
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well, it's an alternative world where supernatural and some sort of magic exists. Also, some items that are available to hunters are pure fantasy

sharp birch
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So you would say that the weapons that are in it are from that era correct?

flat atlas
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so it's just inspired

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weapons for the most part are quite correct, but not all of them

junior pecan
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There are questionable prototypes.

sharp birch
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Very questionable

junior pecan
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Avtomat is the most alternate history part of the lore tbh

flat atlas
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really? what about dark vision? what about bomb lance? what about concertina mines? I could go on

junior pecan
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All entirely plausible

flat atlas
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avtomat is just out of place on a time scale, but there are things that are just parts of a fantasy world

junior pecan
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Avtomat was made by the wrong dude, that’s why I say it’s alt history

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Lore says a Russian working for Powell made it, and Powell aint based on anyone

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And it’s Canadian irl

flat atlas
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I don't even argue about avtomat, it's not the most incredible out of place feature there is

junior pecan
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The magic shit isn’t magic, it’s pseudo science

flat atlas
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ehh

junior pecan
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Soul energy and all that jazz

flat atlas
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call it all you want, it's part of a fantasy setting

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it's alternate history

junior pecan
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I’d consider it more scifi, but my point in differentiating it is that it does not differ from our own reality, it is an addendum, not an alteration

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Fantasy vibes, sci-fi lore

flat atlas
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well, it's quite an alteration. There wasn't a zombie invasion of Louisiana in 1895 :)

junior pecan
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Not that you know of, but the governor did remark on disease rampant at that time, and it was not a thoroughly populated area

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It was designed to be plausible

flat atlas
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setting of this game is no more historic than that of a wolfenstein. Less outrageous artistic liberties were taken, but it's on the same scale

junior pecan
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Wolfenstein changes the timeline of our reality. Hunt just adds events it claims to be lost to time

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That’s the point I’m getting at

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It could’ve happened spooky spooky etc

flat atlas
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well, if you're a kid telling a spooky story around a fire at night - it could've happened of course :D

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but adding events that didn't happen is alternate history

junior pecan
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Jeez, ok. Define alternate. We could say it is other, yes? Different even? Hunt’s history isn’t different than ours, it’s still our world start to finish, the only difference is that in hunt certain events transpired that we are not aware of. If we don’t know of these events in both hunt and in real life, the difference is negligible. Without a difference, it isn’t alternate

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Trump still gets elected in the Hunt universe, that’s about as far from alternate as I can think of

flat atlas
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what do you mean without a difference. Our world and hunt's world split at the time hunt's events take place

junior pecan
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No, they don’t, this was my point. Hunt events happen in secret. The AHA is a secret organization that barely knows what it’s doing. The only public knowledge of these sorts of happenings take the form of real world religion.

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No one knows what happened in Louisiana because it’s the middle of bumfuck nowhere and the governor explicitly said he doesn’t give a shit. That was a central part of the old lore dossier

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Would you believe a murder hobo with weird tunes written all over him if he told you there was an apocalypse down in Louisiana? No, and neither would anyone else in 1895

flat atlas
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none of this makes it's setting historic. Hunt's world clearly has different technology, magic, soul energy or whatever other crutch name for magic they use

junior pecan
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*runes not tunes

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No because some people believe that shit man. Haitian voodoo is a real religion, people think this kinda stuff is legit

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It ain’t magic magic anyhow, it’s soul magic. Rational stuff

flat atlas
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yea, they believe it...but it's not a thing. Our hunters don't believe in it, they use it as if it's a real thing

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and in a world of hunt - it is real

junior pecan
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Awfully fucked up to just throw a whole religion out like that

flat atlas
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I won't apologize :D

junior pecan
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Some people, do believe in magic

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Just like some people do believe the worlds flat

flat atlas
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yup, and I respect their right to believe in whatever nonsense they want

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but it doesn't mean I respect what they believe in

junior pecan
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They’re both probably wrong, but if we look at the bigger picture, we don’t personally know

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That’s why it isn’t alt. Because it’s plausible, albeit silly

flat atlas
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you are really stretching what is plausible right now :D

junior pecan
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Dog it’s a space demon from another dimension, it was always gonna be a stretch. Most religion is anyway

flat atlas
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that's not enough! I really wish they'd go for a more sci-fi route, but this whole magic thing is bumming me out

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it's kinda lazy

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whole x-ray vision shit, but it's part of the game now. It's built around it

junior pecan
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Just get into the lore deeper. I’m working on a document outlying mirror theory, THATS where the sci-fi is. Rationalizing sculptors actions through scientific methods

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You just gotta get over the soul thing, that’s the biggest fantasy part of it, but even it respects the bounds of established science

flat atlas
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just hope in the end it won't be a cowboy sitting on a porch tripping his balls of on some mushrooms, imagining it all happened

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I don't see how it even remotely fits the bounds of established science, but ok

junior pecan
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Probably not, this shits more complicated than one individual could imagine

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The way it describes soul doesn’t contradict our knowledge of neurochemistry, it’s built atop it in a strange way. In the lore it’s highly probable that humans have a very small soul to begin with. One that barely influences us

flat atlas
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how dark vision works

junior pecan
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Hunters put a little bit of their soul in the alternate reality, positional similarities exist between the two existences, dark sight lets them trace the clues through Loa realm back to their own.

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Could also be a sort of energy signature thing

flat atlas
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ah yes, I remember something similar in Feynman's works :)

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but seriously, could at least be some sort of optical device that does this. Instead it's just something people can do. Like a spell. It just ruins it all for me

junior pecan
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Because the soul is immaterial. That’s part of mirror theory right there. The soul is massless, so it can’t interact with mass except through a biological connection.

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Can’t get a machine to do it unless it’s alive

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Could probably train a horse tbh

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Or a ferret

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I don’t think we have witnessed material influencing soul actually, only the inverse

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Maybe the ritual from pax claw?

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Salt circles, there’s one

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They’re spell like because spells are based on them. That’s why the aesthetic is that way

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In the lore Rituals were created to mimic these methods. In real life, the lore was made to fit the aesthetic

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This, pseudoscience

flat atlas
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midi-chlorians, dude. It all looks about as "sci-fi"

nova ember
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lmao

flat atlas
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I like the setting a lot, btw. I just think there's nothing wrong with calling it fantasy

junior pecan
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I think it propagates misinformation. Makes people think the lore is shallower than it is

flat atlas
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since when does fantasy means shallow lore lol

junior pecan
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It’s easy to just chalk it up to “magic” but the devs put real work into rationalizing it all.

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Makes it all more plausible

flat atlas
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perhaps to some people it does

junior pecan
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Palatable too. I find the “magic” excuse boring

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Overdone

odd glacier
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Where do the leeches from fatties come from?

violet trellis
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from inside them

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sometimes you can see them crawling out of its body

odd glacier
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Yeah but how did it came from?

amber harbor
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Meatheads are what hunter babies look like. They are blind so they use the leeches to 'see'. Idk why leeches, probably just that they were around

timid tree
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what is the origin of the meatheads like are they just a dead persons body or a corrupt soul

amber harbor
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two hunters did the nasty and that thing came out after like a month, killing 20 hunters and escaping shortly after

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during the pregnancy, the huntress had improved ds abilities

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she also only had 1 arm, so there's that

odd glacier
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lol

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so that's the result of Aids breeding

timid tree
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ahh ok

marble kernel
timid tree
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@marble kernel much appreciated

hidden shale
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I wish I could come in here and join in but I've got a compulsion to unlock the lore for myself ingame rather than browse the wikis to catch up quickly.

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I normally have a very short attention span and can't play games for long, especially not games with a repetitive formula, but the lore.. it is compelling.

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I will work so hard for tiny bits of good writing, it's ridiculous.

rotund ferry
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Hah me too, its kinda Frustrating because Most of the time I try Not to Trigger enemies to prevent making noise

delicate mantle
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One way I've found to grind xp on weapons is to go into a match, find a clue, then stay in the dark areas of the map killing every mob you see. It's boring and slow but it works

solar cypress
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The repeating crossbow (Chinese: 連弩; pinyin: Lián Nŭ) is a Chinese crossbow that was invented during the Warring States period, and remained in use until the late Qing dynasty. It is also known as the Zhuge crossbow (Chinese: 諸葛弩; pinyin: Zhūgě nǔ, also romanized Chu-ko-nu) du...

past patrol
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tfw no white coat

remote hamlet
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is there lore that i can read or watch?

marble kernel
remote hamlet
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@marble kernel thank you friend

marble kernel
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No problem :)

bronze jolt
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诸葛弩 is fake, ineffective at best...

vocal anvil
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I really dig the weird scp foundation kinda shit

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I like the lore a lot

cunning spruce
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is there a SCP section for Hunt ?

amber harbor
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@cunning spruce no, but the lore is structured that way. You can check pinned messages for all of it or check the link above for a summary

cunning spruce
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Thanks Kebab

junior pecan
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YUH ITS DONE

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i just need to figure out how to post a doc

spiral lynx
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is it normal for a tree to be in the middle of a corn field?

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im not good at agriculture but for some reason Hunt's lore makes me dont trust plant based object

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and that tree i saw in the middle of corn field seems suspicious

glacial crane
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It’s a fake

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Don’t trust the fake trees

spiral lynx
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okay i wont

willow marten
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So "The Louisiana Event"...could that be considered a similar type of event to "The Zone" from STALKER? Basically I'm wondering if it's considered more of an isolated event or if it's more global in Hunt's lore. Could've sworn I read something in the monstrom about stuff going on in the Yukon

amber harbor
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@willow marten it's one of many, so its sortof inbetween

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those things happen from time to time, but this one is special in some way

willow marten
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That's pretty cool ngl. The source material for STALKER was the Russian novel Roadside Picnic which talked about alien trash being left in different parts of the globe creating these "Zones" . So it actually sounds closer to that

junior pecan
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Devs said its special but we dont know why. Mirror theory says its an alien race just as confused as us, and this time the alien “in charge” actually knows what he’s doing.

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Theyre actually really similar to the creator of the zone in the stalker games, but not the book

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Immaterial, and capable of weird indirect influence

willow marten
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Huh that's really cool. I always got a Stalker vibe from Hunt. Going into the Bayou as a Hunter and learning the Zone like a Stalker would. Weirdly enough, most of my favorite games deal with a similar theme of an isolated event (ex. Darkwood, Pathologic 1&2, The Long Dark) something about it just really interests me

junior pecan
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Its not nearly as apocalyptic as most others. The events in hunt are like mutual first contact over and over again. The loa are so drastically different from us to the point where we each struggle to understand the others actions and very existence

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We are like hyper active rocks to them, and theyre like spiritual weather to us

willow marten
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That's pretty interesting. Not too many games or media that I can think of involving extraterrestrial's ever having a hard time comprehending us. Most of the time we just think of them viewing us as hostile, or stupid. Pretty cool idea to make it a more mutual ground

rustic herald
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WHAT DOES TOP 5 MEAN? IN MISSION SUMMARY?

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sorry caps

rigid holly
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Would any one be interested in some fan fic?

amber harbor
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@rigid hollyyou can post it in the fanart sections so it isn't mistaken for real lore

green prawn
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We are like hyper active rocks to them, and theyre like spiritual weather to us
@junior pecan thats some lovecraftian shit right there

junior pecan
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This is lengthy, but its the best explanation i could make. Its currently the most comprehensive theory we have but its complexities make me think the devs couldn’t have come up with it.

polar fable
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So where do you guys think the devs will take the lore? There are so many interesting mechanics described in the lore entries and it makes me think that some of them could be implemented in the actual game. There are so many events that happened in the bayou except bounty hunt, they could easily create separate game modes or extend existing ones

junior pecan
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I think that odds are the devs dont actually have a coherent lore structure and are just having fun writing plausibly deniable texts without realizing how cool the story could be

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And i doubt theyll add anything beyond legendary skins, as much as id love something like the ‘lamplighters’ concept

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Could easily be explained as a fascination with combustive reactions

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But, again, that would require mirror theory to be true

amber harbor
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They are constantly adding mechanic tie ins. There wqs talk of an enchanting mechanic involving a tarot deck, described in the ea lore and in the machete lore, but that seems to have been delayed or canceled

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Also @junior pecan what do tou mean by lamplighters?

visual finch
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Probably it wouldn't be like so, but imagine if concertina armored carry new lore.

junior pecan
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@amber harbor The true deck was not enchanting, thats foreseeing the future. I think the problem with that was that it cant really be utilized in gameplay very well

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Lamplighters was an idea for a passive mob that goes around and lights lamps, simple, but it could be used for so more. It could intentionally toss lamps at boss campers, or follow players across the map. Stuff like that

rigid holly
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Can any one link the official lore/stories about this game?

upbeat burrow
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Hunt: Showdown Wiki

Different lore entries can be found in game, on the official page and official social media. Game developers provided additional informations in lore AMA sessions on discord.

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@rigid holly

rigid holly
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Thank's

worthy onyx
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we need an inverted LeMat

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Like shotgun shells in the cylinder and a rifle cartridge in the under barrel

junior pecan
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@worthy onyx what draws you goons to write this shit in the lore discussion channel

worthy onyx
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ima keep it real with you chief, thought this was suggestions

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No need to throw a fit

hushed otter
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Imagine a scarecrow as a boss? But then again it would have to be out in the fields and I don't think they would add boss's in the open like that. Still a scarecrow boss or not would be pretty cool.

junior pecan
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@worthy onyx ^

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You guys are like moths to this channel its so damn peculiar. I thought there might be some consistent reason people drop stuff like this in here

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It doesnt happen in wiki

worthy onyx
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no I’m usually pretty good about posting in the right channel but I was up late last night and I guess I just read the discussion part

unkempt mountain
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Do we know what year the gameplay of hunt is taking place?

I have been pouring over Lore Documents, and find that the first major incident at New Orleans happened in 1895, but there are also lore documents as late as 1910.

marble canopy
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It takes place in 1895

unkempt mountain
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Got a source?

marble canopy
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Also several parts of the lore refer to the Louisiana Event starting in 1895

amber harbor
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@unkempt mountain what we have in the books are documents compiled in the present day. A modern day researcher has looked for old papers, rumors and such related to the Louvent

delicate mantle
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Another thing is even though the event started in 1895 there's plenty of evidence to support there's been many hunts in the area (mass graves, cages around the map, etc)

amber harbor
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well, the event has been going on for quite a while, thats why the grunts are so far spread and those chitinous corruption things

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plus, those events are a regular occurrence , but this one is special in some way

polar fable
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Wonder if we’ll ever know what is so special about it 😦

marble canopy
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about the Louisiana Event?

amber harbor
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I'm guessing its something about our understanding about the other side, but I cant remember what it was exactly

junior pecan
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@polar fable Almost definitely has to do with its cyclical nature. Mirror theory asserts that its because this is the Loa equivalent of discovering oil.

west rivet
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Other than the monster manuals, is are there any other places I can read an overview of the lore (more like a summary)

junior pecan
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@west rivet check pinned messages in this channel of the discord

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Pretty sure Varuun’s lore document has a summary

polar fable
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@junior pecan I’ve read you theory and I must admit that you put a lot of effort into it and it looks very impressive. Great work and I hope the devs will also unfold the event in some exciting way

junior pecan
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@polar fable Thank you. Although its currently the most comprehensive explanation we have, the lack of lore content concerning such abstract and interesting concepts leads me to believe the devs are going for a more unexplained stephen king esque evil force. A seriously missed opportunity considering how well the theory happens to fit into the lore and theme of hunt. A perfect reflection of the greed and ambitions of the AHA and its members

real flare
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Henlo lore humans. I was wandering around either like catfish grove or port reeker maybe? (I’m still not super good at remembering places) and we found this weird little window that had what looks like a big mechanical duck????? Inside??? That we couldn’t get to either. I was wondering if any of y’all knew anything about that :<? Is there like a story behind it maybe :U

tidal shell
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it's a nice ducky easter egg, there's also lots of little rubber ducks around the map

real flare
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REALLY?? 👀 today I go search for duckies. We spent like more time investigating this duck then going for the bounty lol

tidal shell
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there's a boatload of easter eggs around the map, have you seen the bob ross zombie yet?

junior pecan
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@real flare that was the northeast corner of port reeker, pretty sure you can still get in there. The window was originally added so that people couldnt camp it in quick play

real flare
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I saw the bob ross one! @tidal shell but I spent too long staring at it and got clobbered 😭😭
YOU CAN GET IN THERE? @junior pecan I wish to witness. The large creepy ducko

patent condor
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they should add some minor variantiation to hive/armored models

amber harbor
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@patent condor this is lore discussion, try suggestions. But as for lore, all monsters are clones so it makes sense theylook the same

cosmic totem
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perhaps further mutations caused by the corruption / the power left behind by the sculptor ?

junior pecan
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@cosmic totem could work, but it takes away from the lore

split dawn
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Do we have any idea of what or who the sculptor is or what it is

junior pecan
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Lore doesnt actually tell us but Mirror theory is probably the best and most rational explanation youll get. We know its from the Loa realm, and we know ritualistic actions do occur between human beings and Loa. These ritualistic actions are the basis for Human Religion in the lore with some unimportant exceptions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/18XyEj3ccE5GFhbaTMJ-imv-Uq37SxG81jZKX3Qk9pUU

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Unimportant exceptions being the fact that contemporary Haitian Voodoo has been catholicized and still believes in the concept of Jehovah as a sort of over-god

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That link will indirectly tell you what the Sculptor is for the sake of explaining what the actual fuck is going on in the Bayou

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Word of warning that it is all theory and almost all of the hunt showdown lore is plausibly deniable in the first place. Nothing is true, believe what you want

split dawn
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Oh

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So

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The load just in it for the body’s

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So do we have any idea what the loa wants the body’s for

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Or is that still up in the air

dire solar
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Hey guys, do you know where can I start reading up the lore?

covert pike
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the Library

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you'll unlock lore as you start playing and kill monsters and use weapons

dire solar
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alright, thanks @covert pike

covert pike
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yep yep

amber harbor
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@dire solar or if you dont want to grind there is an archived version in pinned comments

dire solar
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thanks

junior pecan
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@split dawn Its explained in the document but it is difficult to fathom. Loa is a big spirit thing because matter is rare in its reality so it evolved to secure energy through spiritual means. Humans are the opposite, little to no spirit and secure energy through physical means. The loa wants the bodies and the hunters want the bounty because it gives them access to a rare form of energy not found in their respective realities. Loa gets biological tissue for use in combustion (fires) while hunters get the bounty for use in rituals.

ember thistle
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is this something about lore or just an easter egg?

warm quest
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wait so the painter fished his photo but died while siting there and someone took it and framed it?

ember thistle
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idk i find this at school of arden parish

warm quest
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thats so weird

warm quest
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it wouldnt make sence for the apocolypse or whatever to happen and someone to take it then frame it in a house

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is that 1985?

ember thistle
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yea

warm quest
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back to the future is set in 1985

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thats the whole movie

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this is weird

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i cant tell what the letering is for the top pic

ember thistle
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and the e=mc2 was discover in 1946 by einstein

split dawn
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Do the zombies feel pain

amber harbor
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it is implied the soul is still inside the zombie and is fighting the influence of the loas. They are kept alive by a pulsating hive of bugs

tribal stream
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bois can anyone explain the origin of the curse i know about the incidents and all , but its still not clear to me if it is a virus or curse or what

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is this not in the right channel to ask for?

devout cedar
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Check pinned messages

tribal stream
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hmm i didnt see any quick info

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can u just say if it is a virus or what

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i was searching on youtube and in the books but it wasnt clear

devout cedar
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I dont know HUL

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But some people will answer soon I hope

tribal stream
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would be nice i really love the theme and the game

warm lagoon
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i'm sure @wintry panther can help you with that once hes on

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the sculptor is behind the incident so i'm guessing it's more towards the curse/magic side

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since hellhounds have glowing eyes for example

tribal stream
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@wintry panther buddy can u help me

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yea i thought that

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is the sculptor thing verrryfied

wintry panther
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I gotchu

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Best way is to read the grunt entries it’s a more analytical look at what is inside the body

tribal stream
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yea i ve done that

wintry panther
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Sculptor thing is verified

tribal stream
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so he is a thing that makes the bosses

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and the grunts are a zombie type based on a virus

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we could say that there are two things goin on

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but thanks 😄

wintry panther
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Yeah the special creatures and bosses are deliberate creations where the zombies are more mass produced

tribal stream
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got u thanks for the infos

warm quest
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@tribal stream what is the sculptor??

tribal stream
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dude that makes them bosses

warm quest
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are there pictures of it?

tribal stream
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i dont think so

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i am just starting to get into lore so i am the wrong guy to ask buddy

warm quest
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ok thanks bro lol

marble kernel