#lore-discussion
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Joking aside, the Louisiana Incident is what's happening in the game as far as I know. A plague broke out, hunters are coming to stop it/profit from it.
Theres way, way more to it than that but that's the extreme summarized way to put it
@uncut narwhal you can check the pinned lore documents where it's also explained
Where would i find that
@uncut narwhal channel pinned messages at the right top corner
Cool thanks man
this is probably what you're looking for @uncut narwhal
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so i just got some lore from the bunny rifle... and thats kinda sad. but the guy is right life is short so smile and move on.
Yeah I know rip to the owner of the bunny
Hey I'm fairly new to the game and noticed that it has some interesting lore and world building especially the hunter factions. Reading through some of it the concepts of "The Twins" piqued my interest. Who exactly are these guys and what's their "role" in the story?
@fiery forge the twins are two girls who are super deadly Hunters, and if you read the "Bad As They Seem" journal in pinned that contains their whole story
Many of the legendaries are also tied to the two girls as well
Here is the link to the pdf
Besides the fact that the Twins are blamed for the death of the head of the AHA, Phillip H Jones, although whether that is true or not is yet to be determined
@wintry panther Thanks for the read. I figured that the twins were super important characters and was pretty surprised that they weren't on the Legendary Hunter roster or something
Yeah! Many of the key players have yet to be released as legendaries and they might keep it that way until there is more concrete evidence to who these characters are and their motives
It seems that a whole lot of the lore has been kept pretty shadowed. Like for example, was the "Louisiana incident" the only one going on at the time? How much of the US, maybe even the world is infected by this plauge?
Exactly, its pretty open ended
The devs wanted to explore more the time itself rather than following a singular incident
It’s occurred to me there may be a reason why Louisiana is where this is all happening. You see the dead don’t stat buried in Louisiana. The Swampy soul ensures that bodies can’t be buried in the soil. Which would allow the sculptor to constantly refresh his foot soldiers with ease.
True and with all the loa and stuff it seems to be a good place to use culturally
and how they treat the dead
who is this sculptor?
@umbral agate it is the name given to the being who is behind the creation of all the monsters. He is from another universe and has entered ours. For what? we dont know
So im looking at the prinned pdf monster book, it goes grunt then assassin,.should I read it in that order? Or should I read it in terms of like small to big?
@gilded saffron The devs designed the book of monster so that you can read in whatever order, since people will unlock them differently. From there you can put together what you want in regards to the story. But each monster will have their own little story
independent of the other creatures
Lets discuss why the Dolch 96 is out in 1895 when it was manufactured in 1896
It's a prototype maybe?
Sent all the way from Europe?
There's a lot of hunter with european like name
it was distributed officially to military officers in 1896 i think but was made a year before that
Yes prototypes of the c96 were being developed as early as 1894, if you look on gunbroker there is a mechanically matching c96 that was shipped as a dealer’s model in 1895
so to answer your question there were c96s in circulation by 95 but in very low numbers
like any good gun nuts, hunters got their grubby mitts on anything and everything no matter how obscure or rare it is
How long has the Sculptor been active in this world?
I kind of get the feeling that it's been happening for a few years prior to 1895
At least that's how I interpret things
@hard crane I feel like the Sculptors work has been happening over the course of months. Given the fact most of the writings from various characters lack a date.
Is there a lore reason for the introduction of trios?
Someone mentioned voodoo stuff earlier I think
Not necessarily explaining it, but the Springfield page has something on it.
Are the Sinners specific characters in the lore?
We know of one or two of them but the sinners are mainly referred to as a group
Sinners?
There's a song on the soundtrack called "Sinners Blues" that mentions "washing in the blood" to avoid "eternal damnation". This makes me wonder if the "Sinners" are related to Isaac Powell's "Night of the Hunter" cult as that's one of their central beliefs.
what are the sculptors
@rotund ferry The Sculptor is some other dimensional being that is responsible for the madness going down in Louisiana in the game.
So is the weird sister and the witch doctor(idk if thats the name) like some kind of monster slaying cult?
@boreal ravine they are part of a voodoo oriented hunters, a subdivision of hunters like the reverend and his group of Christian believers, and the doomsday cult called night of the hunters
So the hunters are an organization? Not just fortune seekers ?
Well some have organized into groups based on beliefs, but others go solo. For example, the AHA (American hunters association) has tried to be the most structured, although it has run into problems as you will find out of you read through the book of weapons
Everyone has come for their own reasons to the bayou, some for personal fortune, others because they believe they are called by a god or gods, and others because they want to stop the end of the world.
At the end of the day, the result is the same. Hunt, kill, repeat
@boreal ravine
So where do the voodoo people fall in this category ? Are they part of the association or their own little sub group that acts on their own (sorry for the myriad of questions btw, I just find the lore really interesting )
They are their own sub group that acts of independent goals, if you read the witch doctors legendary description he had a vision of the end of the world and to stop it he has to kill the bosses.
No worries!! That’s why we are here :)) we love having new people come in and show interest in lore, there is a lot to uncover so it’s always a little challenging at first
A great place to look is in the pinned section of #lore-discussion I have documented all journal entries and everything lore related there
So the people that you recruit and the lost souls, are they AHA or is it a mixed bag?
The non legendary hunters
@boreal ravine theyre typically aha. It’s difficult though, because we don’t know yet what the prestige counts lore wise. Or how playing as multiple hunters fits in. Like are you just playing as randoms? Or are you a head distributor of hunters and as you gain more reputation you gain access to higher tier hunters
That area of lore is up in the air
Well, the whole recruit page seems to imply that you’re some kind of equipment medium and delegator. In that section the player is probably like you said some distributor who, as they have more and more people come back alive, gain a reputation and more skilled hunters show up in their dossier
That’s what I like to think as well, would also explain access to better weapons as well. It’s just never been confirmed so far so until it is, it’s just a theory
A game theory
@boreal ravine @wintry panther I dunno if this will interest either of you but I like to view certain hunters differently. The Tier 3’s with weird tattoos and face paint give me a voodoo vibe. All Tier 1’s to me look like mere conscripts for AHA to me. How do you feel about the different tiered hunter skins?
@gloomy night They're supposed to be more experienced as the tier goes up. Seeing the big impact voudou has on the hunting grounds, it's plausible that more experienced hunters would come to believe in voudou stuff. It was confirmed a while back that tatoos hold no actual power, they're just cosmetic
I don’t remember saying they had power but just a simple vibe reminding me of voodoo.
I got a different story about the Hunters but the site says something other. Are we Hunters of a secret society or are we prisoners dumped into the bayou to die only to have 1 survivor bringing the bounty back to get his freedom?..
So is darksight a form of voodoo then? Because every single hunter knows it regardless of where they came from, so that might mean they all come from one place or person who teaches them whatever the ability entails.
@wispy quartz we are hunters who get contracted by the American Hunter's Association to get a bounty, which is the bounty hunt mode. The second description you found is for Quickplay, where 'damned souls' compete for the wellspring, which can save them, although specific details are unclear
@boreal ravine every hunter undergoes an initiation ritual which brings them closer to the supernatural world, from where the sculptor is. After that connection is established, they unlock that ability
Exactly what damning is and saving yourself from it is outlined in the original lore page released with Quickplay
Perhaps the damned souls are the hunters that die in bounty hunt mode. Once they enter the supernatural world, their souls are bound to the supernatural world and the wellspring is the only way to prevent them from turning into a monster maybe ? Maybe the wellspring is what creates the monsters and they just don’t know it. All they know when they wake up is to close the rifts and find the wellspring
We have no solid answer to that question, but the running theory is that qp is a kind of purgatory as @boreal ravine said
Can someone dm me about the female hunter lore? A streamer claimed it goes against lore to have female hunters and they would turn to ash. Is he right?
Read the lore on the Meathead enemy, that should clear things up a bit.
Huh,yeah it does
Two questions
Together they performed the initiation ritual. She was the first female hunter to be initiated in many decades
Does this mean the sculptor and hunters in general have been active for decades??
And do we know anything about the initiation ritual
Other parts of the monster manual do imply that some of these monsters seem familiar through old legends and/or folktales, so it could be that the Sculptor, or a sculptor, has come and gone before in human history.
Yeah these events have gone on for centuries, the game is just studying this one particular Louisiana incident
I'd ask for Hunt: Medieval, but that's basically a Witcher's job, isn't it?
Hmm
@marsh crest yup
they said they don't plan on adding any outside Louisiana maps, but who knows
Also @hard crane yes, the AHA has existed for a long time under many names. As for the sculptor, we don't know for sure
sculptors are a class of paranormal entities as far as we know
and the initiation ritual was revealed to be just injecting demon blood in your veins, as far as I can remember
Why is it that the tier 3 hunters have strange markings and tattoos on them and the tier 1 hunters don’t? I know that dark sight comes with a price and ritual but only tier 3 hunters have markings and tats. Im assuming they must do their own ritual within their own voodoo group since they’re many other hunting groups other than AHA that are based on their own beliefs. AHA is more of a corporation or establishment based on hunters and other people who want to become hunters or seen the monsters and have to become hunters. They must do the bare minimum of the ritual and get them on their way to go hunt meanwhile the voodoo groups know the ritual and have their own fates fulfilled and probably worked on their magic for years which explains the depth of looks on the tier 3 hunters
Idk just something I thought of earlier I could be right or wrong but who cares this game is a mystery and I love it
I think it’s just for the aesthetics. Tier 1 hunters are basically usual people recruited by AHA and at times they are quite poorly informed about what they are going to be hunting and so have no idea about supernatural side of things. Tier 3 hunters however are supposed to be veterans and I believe they know what they deal with. Voodoo tattoos might not have any particular effect but having them just in case won’t hurt, so I guess that’s all there is to it
@amber harbor there's no way QP is a type of purgatory
If living hunters can seek out wellsprings then the hunters we play as aren't dead
sorry for misinforming then
I mean it can be seen as a metaphorical purgatory as in your 'sins' or damnation is being washed away
Yeah that was a theory for a time
But then the communique came out and that got squashed
@boreal ravine the "damnation" is just an effect from connecting with the other side through things like dark sight, the wellspring washes that away, the hunters we are playing as are not dead
Where can I read the Louisiana Incident in game? I saw that you can find it in the lobby but I don’t see it
@stoic leaf you can read it here on discord pinned in #lore-discussion
It is on the Hunt website as well and was in the beta, was removed though at 1.0 and rereleased
ah okay, thanks!
Here is the link to the pdf
And here is the website link
@stoic leaf
big thanks partner
I gotchu
So the new legendary hunters posted on the Instagram page may represent a new faction in the Huntverse. Both new hunters fit the Yakuza aesthetic perfectly
Uhm yakuza is a Japanese thing and I’m pretty sure the new hunters are Chinese. In any case, the Chinese were not a minority in 1895 so their addition is absolutely logical
After a second inspection you’re right 😂 that sword and the first characters shirt are very Chinese
Which makes much more sense
Thanks for pointing that out
..... or you could have remembered that In 1895 Japanese were probably still carrying muskets and katanas as wepons, and that only really china saw straw hats as that cool, there are less annoying reasons to realise it was more of a Chinese character than the sword and the clothing,... you could have even noticed the fact that they actually look chinese not japanese,... or are you so blind, you cant even tell the diffrence?
But yeah lore wise their pretty fitting characters,
and yakuza probably wasnt even
a thing in 1895,
(He really doesn't)
chill bro, if someone mistakin western and asian then that's somethin but if you've been to china and japan, it is not that easy to call out who is who with a first glance
anyway, anyone can tell me about the source of this plague? i read the notes and the devs said it was half science and half voodoo stuff
and with the 'sculptor' being mentioned, i'm confused

and he sends the kids out at night
with gun it's a bit understandable but knives?
poor kids
This tab probably gets this question every other day but is there anywhere that just has the lore all together so I can read it?
@misty iron i think the pins in this channel are your best bet rn
thanks
@misty iron i have pinned pdfs of all the lore available although the book of weapons hasnt been updated with the newest weapons, i have to add that and report. and the legendaries doesnt include the newest additions so i have to add those too
if you want to read the entries for the new weapons check the hunt wiki because they are also posted there
I assumed he called them kids because they were really young compared to him, not because they were actual children. Either way, yikes.
interesting how he said it was desperate time though
raise some question about what is so desperate
was it the plague? why so desperate you ran out of hunters? or he is not related to the AHA and try to fix this his own way
I think it was before the infestation was relegated to the areas we visit in game, back when it was running rampant and people were becoming monsters left and right. I'm guessing a shortage of manpower that lead to the authorities using anyone they could find, regardless of age or criminal record.
Hardin sounds less sinister when you think it that way
although it seems to me that the plague spread quicker than anyone could react
seeing that 'painting dude' died in a...painting chair? in one of the map like he didn't even know what hit him
but i might miss some details
I think that one is just a bob ross reference
Lol the guys with the knives are better off, too bad they don't know how to hitstun the enemies I guess
Also the people hardin set out should've grabbed axes and sledges
I doubt kids could handle those, and they're harder to make
kind of sure they can stab someone more than 4 times till their stamina runs out
but also sure the grunt wouldn't be as forgiving as in the game either
@wintry panther shit i forgot to give you permission to edit the doc didnt i
@sinful trout lolol i think so XD
dm me your email and ill allow access
@forest condor why have i never thought of that
@wintry panther It's what I do
Someone said to me that they had read that the spider used to be a sheriff whom was a racist.... is there any truth to that?
The Spider is made up of multiple bodies, not just one. So while plausible most likely not as the Devs have a strict guideline against any racism.
I was bamboozled I guess
Also Jesse could I report someone, I've been receiving abuse from?
Dm me
@mental creek No sherriff who was racist here, if you want the book of monsters pdf has the whole thing or i'll link a reddit post I made that summarizes each monsters origin
Here you go!
aight so I’m sorta interested in getting a legendary hunter
but I’m curious
Sheriff Hardin, what entries can I find lore on him?
Learn more about one of Hunt’s Legendary characters, Sheriff Hardin!
Read it now: https://t.co/QJiYXgPiyD
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Hardin is also slightly talked about in the book of weapons
if you get a legendary hunter and they die, do i gotta pay more blood bonds to get them again?
is their any lore on the reverend anyone could point me towards
The legendary weapon Altar Boy is his, and I believe he leads one of the main factions within AHA.
true, and I think he also appears in the immolator entries
i knew the first part is thats all their is in him
I like how the preacher just happens to have an ornamental version of one of the most advanced weapons of his time just laying about in his church.
It's like if a pastor today kept an AK leaning against the confessional booth.
Preacher : So tell me your confession
Ak watching you with malicious intent
advanced except in the way of tube feed smh

He is obviously a gun enthusiast
Bet he worked with the carcass gunrunner to get it
Weird Sister best char
the avto would be the most advanced, then the specter probably
the vetterli is just a better lebel in the way of it's internal mechanics
and the bomblance exists too
reminds me - what's an avto?
Ah ok.
surely the browning auto 5 would be considered more advanced than the spencer no?
Mosin would be most advanced
Or nagant revolver because of its unique cylinder mechanism and double action.
"advanced" is a meaningless term
Davinci machines come to mind.
@bold tiger nagant over mosin because of the year they came up
Okay, to clear things up, I'm aware the Lebel isn't cutting edge but, in comparison to a good chunk of the weapons available to us, it's still technically impressive for the time and not something you'd likely see an average joe carrying around, much less a priest.
I mean, it's almost 10 years old by this point in the lore
With just under 3.5 million rifles made
I don't see how it's unlikely for a priest to get his hands on one
Not that rare
How many citizens did USA even have in that year?
There are censuses available for 1890 that would give a good understanding of how many people there were. It is considered a significant census due to the surveys it did of Union veterans after the Civil war
1790-1890 Federal Population Censuses - Part 8 Search Census Records Online Census Schedules Index to the Census Special Schedules Enumerating Union Veterans and Widows of Union Veterans of the Civil War See Also: 1790-1890 Censuses: Table of Contents Census Records Online Geneal...
Federal Census records have been digitized by several of NARA's partners, and will eventually be available as well through the National Archives Catalog. Click on a Census year to start your search. Tip: Begin with the most current census year and work backwards to find people...
I wonder why the reverend would spring for a French rifle with limited access to ammunition instead of buying a more practical American rifle
Food for thought 🤔
Why not? If he has magical Hell powers, he can conjure up more bullets.
Because the French rifle was the first to use smokeless powder
Literally three times more powerful compared to black powder
If he got it in the late 80s it would have been the most powerful/advanced rifle he could get
I could see if a sect of his church was sending out engraved Lebels to its practitioners, to me that makes more sense than him purchasing it
What is the lore of it?
A topia world because of an unknown chemical spillage, mysterious magic that consumed earth and many people with it, or a being that caused all of this like game of thrones night king
A lebel in this time period would have value to firearms enthusiasts too
I know a priest that loves old school British stuff
Webleys, Martini Henrys, that kind of stuff
So if a priest that grew up with black powder, something like a Lebel would be a real novelty to have in his collection
Being that caused all of this Riddle
From another dimension
They're deliberately made
Made as a weapon?
Maybe
Also @hard crane sorry for the pin but how do you get the lore hardcore rank?
I've got no idea lol
@dull quail “ghost” colloquially referred to as sculptor is futzing about in louisiana through a hole between dimensions. Caused a plague that turned people into monsters and is reviving them over and over, for what purpose we don’t know. Hunters kill them to sell to the American Hunters Association who uses the “Bounties” for ritual purposes.
There’s more lore but that’s the basis. Pretty much everything we have is theory though because devs decided to make everything an untrustworthy source.
Not reviving them, when they're dead they're dead, the only ones being "revived" are the bosses
And we don't know how that works
@forest condor Hive lore. Says explicitly that it’s the same person/people reanimated in one or multiple instances. That’s why there’s so many meatheads, only a few were created and sculptor just replicated it multiple times.
@junior pecan that doesnt mean ressurection. Thqt way, there could only be one hive at a time. My theory is cloning by meat mass or teleportation to our world from theirs
@amber harbor now you’re getting into concepts of identity, a replication of a dead individual is, in my books, cloning/reviving, not definitively one or the other. It’s not teleportation because the loa world probably isn’t tangible, nor is the connection strong enough for that. If it was, spider wouldn’t have its purpose.
I do agree with biomass manipulation though, that seems most likely what with the sculptor’s original creations so far.
@junior pecan the running theory is the sculpter is changing people to fit a mold, which is as close to cloning as plastic surgery to look like someone else is
It's not reviving
A clone of someone also isn't inherently that person, and woudnt be reviving them
Ba dum crash
there was also talk of that person's soul being held in an endless cycle, but I can't remember if that was theory or canon
THAT was relating to the bosses
@forest condor So if sculptor is holding Vincent Lott's (Assassin) soul in this endless cycle, why would he not also hold the others'? A soul being a bound thing to the body means it can only be lost in an unfaithful recreation, the fact that grunts wear clothing at all shows that sculptor is recreating them precisely, so it would not be too far fetched to assume the soul follows with the body.
As for the debate of mimicry VS revival, if a being holds the ability to shape life in the manner of a god, and all life being a creation of god, is it not fair to say that his recreation of a particular individual qualifies as a revival, rather than a mimicry. The argument boils down to if you believe a man to be defined by his evident history, or his blueprint. If I have a clone who looks, thinks, acts, and behaves just as I do, is he not me? And if my existence ceases upon his creation, is he not a continuation of me? Does his origin influence his identity?
Honestly, I'd cede that second argument to you, it is semantics and a technicality, but no the grunts are not revivals, only clones.
@amber harbor I agree with your belief in cloning by biomass, but it would be simpler for the entity to repair the corpses of said grunt/hive/armored. However, The Sculptor has already shown himself to be inarticulate in his corporeal abilities, what with the haphazard design of all his creations. Butcher, Spider, Immolator all exist as happenstance, not deliberate design.
the grunts were the only outlier to the "mold" theory
also the clone entering at the same time you're terminated (example star trek teleportation) i'd say it's not you since your original body was destroyed
Three things,
- Are these theories recorded anywhere? I had interpreted them, or other theories resembling them, as fact directly from the Books, too implicit for a name.
- If by outlier you mean exempt, then why would they not be covered under said theory (although I am unfamiliar with it, I assume it follows the same/similar logic of my own conclusions).
- Again, a technicality and more a philosophical debate than diction argument. I, as I said before, cede that argument to you.
We're getting into Soma levels of existentialism here
Good game
@junior pecan thanks 😄
does dvb allow hunters to only see other hunters or any other humans?
it also noticeably doesn't hilight your own teammates but hilights you to yourself for some reason
Perhaps it is an ability that the bosses have, one that you gain (albiet probably a weak version) and highlights people that are hostile to you
@junior pecan sorry for the late reply, i'm saying they appear to be the outlier because they have more than one model and appear to be a very basic change compared to a complete rework of what they fundamentally are
@forest condor no worries on reply. They’ve still the slugs, and I don’t see where the bodies could come from, people aren’t gonna be wandering in anymore
but those that were there are the ones that were changed
the only ones free of the sculpter's influence are the hunters
the leeches in them are one thing I believe is controlling most of the "lesser" changed beings
for instance, the dogs don't have much about them changed and neither do the grunts
and they both have the leeches
@forest condor I still believe that the bodily changes of the AI are not deliberate, but random mutation caused by the sickness and replicated by sculptor. He didn’t design them, he facilitated their change and cloned them depending on their effectiveness
i'm saying that seems to be the case for most special ai but not for the grunts
/doggos but they also seem to be a side affect
My theory is that if the Bosses and the Marked are sculpted by the Sculptor. Then the grunts and all of the dead bodies are where he gets his clay
And I lean towards the theory that the Grunts are reanimated corpses. The lore states that even after being rendered inert their “hearts” continue to beat/convulse.
and here i thought a witch had cursed the land
everyone going insane! slowly but surely
and the curse area is bound to the monsters! which we hunt
lol
i mean they ARE holding tools sometimes soooo
what is the sound that we hear when use dark sight?
i have a feeling it's not ours since it sounds male even when you use it on female hunter
it's the whispering your hunter is doing to keep darksight open
@earnest jungle if they're corpses how can we unafflict them? we know it's possible from a QNA from awhile ago
If they’re not corpuses how exactly do they manage to survive with base ball sized chunks of their heads missing and cannon ball sized holes in their chests.
Some of these grunts have their god damn faces sliced off.
Besides in the Spider Lore we are told that those grunts that are killed will eventually rise out of the grave again. The only person we know that was cured was William Salter, and he didn’t seem to cured in his journals.
“Too many pits excavated, in earth turned a hundred times, plowed by processions or hunters burying the dead and killing them again.”
I love how people theorize that Hellhounds may just be normal rabid dogs when they're oh, I don't know, MISSING THE SKIN ON THEIR FACE.
there's missing posters for dogs that look a lot like the hellhounds
@marsh crest the lore talks about bunny and what happened, but what we do know is that hunter blood messes with nature. Thats how water devils came to be. so maybe the blood of a hunter also brought these dogs into the next dimension of messed up
Then again look at this
Pretty sure the missing dog posters are OF Bunny.
i think so yeah
Hey so I know there's a lore doc, I dont know how outdated the QnA in it is, but it says they'd explain dark sight in the future. Did that ever end up happening?
Not really afaik
Where can I find the lore sheets?
Pinned message @fading plaza
Thank you @amber harbor
@slim hatch I have been looking around, and haven't found anything yet, but is there an in world explanation for dark sight? What it is, where it comes from, etc?
Poke me in some 15min again and I’ll try explaining
@slim hatch poke
Okay
So basically now bare with me I'm strongest in Vanilla lore
Essentially original Dark Sight was an inheritable ability or unlockable via a ritual
I read that just now yeah
What dark sight is, is dark magic ability to kinda look between the worlds.
It's an AHA thing
Yes
Yeah
All hunters unlock the ability during their initation that's the TL;DR of it
Now, using it damns you to hell? Or slowly eats your soul?
It drains you yeah
Like a corruption
As described now in some old entries it basically putrefies the user
But, there is also a beckoning of hell
Hence the hunt for Wellspring by hunters are who're close to expiring
Oh that's cool
Now, the event is a disease correct?
Or gas it been classified a curse?
Has*
It's entity messing with a world
So it's not really a disease, gas or a curse
it's just dark magic messing with the world
Hello daddy sculptor unless they retconned it too
Ok and are hunters immune to this corruption due to their rituals or are the susceptible but we just dont see that as a gameplay thing
Man really hope these questions get answered one way or another. Lore and backstories at half the reason I play this game.
@fading plaza they have slowed corruption rate
Hence the 1 hour mission timer
The more they spend in a corrupted area the more they are influenced by the sculptor
Also did anyone notice if the characters mentioned in the logs exist? Prof William salter for an example?
If they're playable I mean
Most major characters are not playable in game
We did get Hardin and the marshall who are still big but not that big
Except harold black
He is a modern day hero
He is the one who conductred research on the voudou stufff
Mhm haven't seen any voodoo stuff yet. Quite early on the lore stuff but it intrigues me. Glad this game has the details
By voudou stuff I mean the creatures
Voudou is the ideology we have taht is closest to the actuql truth withthe entities and such
We’ve also seen a little bit of Hindu practiced as well. It’s a mix, meant to be rationalized rather than conforming to one specific religion.
Hindu? Where have we seen Hinduism in the game?
@fading plaza They are susceptible to corruption
As i said
usage of dark magic carries its toll
That's why the WellSpring hunt is so important
Kebab is also correct they have internal and external corruption
Ahhhhh. And, when a hunter becomes corrupt, are they immolators?
NO
Oop
There is no lore to back it up to my knowledge
I asked wrong thing lol
When they go corrupted they fall to Sculptor's will
Ahhhhhhhhh where can I read about sculptor
The name was coined by community based on early lore texts
You can look around pins in #lore-discussion-hardcore and i don't know if the 2nd generation transcribed that part or not but probably pins here too
If anything it's strange that you asked me that question considering I've been hiding
@S𝖙𝖊𝖕𝖍𝖊𝖓 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖒𝖔𝖓#3754 we got no lore on sculptor, just a lot of speculation
@severe mulch Pax Claw, the magic circle crossing method is native to Hinduism. Saying that off memory though so feel free to re-research
Will do! This is hella interesting
Hey does the lore mention a place called Crouxville?
idk
Aight. Just got bored and looked around the map and saw some barrels that said United States Crouxville and I think it said 1885
Does anyone know anything about the Isaac Powell’s cult?
I’ve been trying to read up on it, but there isn’t much there
THere isnt too much available on each of the cults as of now although the teams are interested in diving more into them
Thank you
is the Reverend have his own cult or anything along those lines or is he just there
hey . u can lose the Dlc characters if u die ?
@tall valve pretty sure that's a question for the qna section not the lore discussion, but to answer your question they die permanently like every other hunter but you can buy them and use them again for $333 like all the legendary characters.
ty @dense vector
@wraith cove Reverend has his own faction, yes. Honestly I wouldn’t consider Powell’s group a cult. It’d be like calling Mormonism a cult. Just a bizarre branch of Christianity.
I'm sure I could find it somewhere in one of the lore channels or elsewhere but I'm gonna be lazy and ask. When is the game set? With the Dolch included (which models the Mauser C96) It'd have to be later. Assuming it's following the real world on that one.
It’s set in 1895 but some weapons such as as Dolch are considered prototypes. I’m pretty sure that there was a real prototype of Mauser C96 irl in 1895 so it’s not too much of a stretch. One more thing to mention is the fact that hunters are supplied with the best weapons there are as the AHA is a powerful organization that can afford it. So yeah, 1895 it is
Awesome, thanks for the knowledge 🙂
No problem, mate!
Like Rachta said, I'm hoping they add the Cei-Rigotti and maybe...Maybe...A Maxim 😏
Being a bit of a gun nut, I ogle at all of the interesting weapons in this game.
With that being said, I think the Cei might be a bit of a stretch.
I want to see a Gewehr 98 myself
Winchester model 1895, add to the glorious Winfield family
Krag jorgenson bb that would be a beautiful addition. That or a Remington model 8. Or both ;D
I'm assuming with the ear ringing plan, they plan to add more semis
joined the discord for the lore after not finding anything on the interwebs
everything about this game just captivates me
@opaque gazelle then you have come to the right place
if you checked pinned messages you will find docs with the complete book of monsters and weapons (except the new weapons, you can check the wiki for those)
also an old qna and some other lore material from the hunt showdown website
thank you, I am reading the first qna now. is there any order of reading you recommend?
If you want a summary of each monster and a slightly dated overall lore then here you go!
Depends on what you want to know
the qna is dated pre-release of the book of monster and weapons so might want to start with those
ohh that reddit thread looks like what I wanted :p
also the book of weapons have a ton of journals so for those, a good place to start is the "bad As They Seem" story about the two twins who drove the American Hunters Association (AHA) into chaos
ok, sounds good. seems like all of the lore is provided through primary sources
that's so cool
Yeah its supposed to be a kind of uncover what happened to each of these characters and following stories from different people's pov
I love it
makes for a kind of mystery to uncover
I just wish there was more of it.
Well they are planning to dive more into it
So hopefully the lore is expanded upon greatly soon
So, as for what we know now, what are the different faction of the AHA ?
ty
@visual finch There’s a lot. Reverend, Lynch, Huff, Powell, Hardin, Dr John, and Leander Coetzee all have their own posses of undetermined size. They don’t do anything though, no power plays, no intrigue, little betrayal and no consolidation of power. They’re like street gangs without the gang war. Russel implies that they weren’t fighting at some point, but it certainly doesn’t seem that way.
Thank you!
@wintry panther Twins didn’t drive it into chaos, Lynch did. They just banned Lynch
the "bad As They Seem" story about the two twins who drove the American Hunters Association (AHA) into chaos
Yeah the intro is a little old since we got new info with the bornheim match that came out
@proper cradle do you think you can pin this pdf?

ty
❤️
Do you have the willpower for one more? This one will require you to remove the previous pinned version too
and pin this one
@proper cradle
Youll be my fav mod
dayum Fab stealing all the attention haha

Ty fav mod
you are welcome
Did the Civil War awaken the demons in the Bayou?
@charred comet huh, he has no knowledge of the lore and yet he poses an interesting question. If the loa realm exists between ours and heaven, then mass spiritual exodus would likely have some effect. As for your question salsa, no they aren’t demons, nor were they awakened. It’s more complicated than that. Sculptor, the spirit doing all this, has either reduced their minds to feral behavior, or he has very limited control of all of them.
They’re meat puppets more than anything. The bio-punk equivalent of Frankenstein’s monster
Interesting
Apologies for not knowing the lore, I know some of the juicier bits of where the monsters originated, but that’s about it
It’s cool, wasn’t accusing you of anything, just remarking on how good of an idea it was
Honestly, I’m just happy to know more people are interested in the lore. Most of it’s lacking and ambiguous, but some of my theories keep me here, hoping for confirmation.
Partial loa yup! The strongest influences coming from the "Bad as they seem" journals
You can read them in the pinned section here
@charred comet
How come when a player is holding the bounty. But when the bounty is alive and youre near it.. The bosses don't have a similar glow?
is there a lore reason why players glow when holding bounty?
@keen vector no lore reason but theory might reveal something. The bounty has been said to be a part of the bosses’ souls. Seeing how it is valued by the AHA, it is probably akin to a mineral or gemstone. Not to say that it is a rock, but that it is a less than common and more than valuable item found when digging through the “dirt” that is the rest of the soul. In layman’s terms, it’s probably ghost energy required to suspend the bosses in our reality. So, if you have a larger soul comprised of dirt ( the normal soul) and a gem (the bounty), then it follows that you couldn’t see the gleam of this gem without wiping away the dirt. TLDR: can’t see the bounty because it’s somewhere inside the bosses, probably the heart
Devs said that bosses go into defense mode when the hunt starts. Maybe that power to sense danger is what hunters use when using dsb
The bosses can probably sense hunters coming given that all the hunters have a small piece of the corruption within them
It makes me think that the whispers are the bosses “tattling” on other hunters to initiate a gun fight
I believe we discussed if the bosses could use dsb and when we pick up the bounty we get that same power
Remember that money isn't the only reason some hunters go out into the bayou
So.
I've got a weird theory that I haven't seen brought up in the pinned stuff, though I may be blind.
My theory is that the immolators are the damned souls from Quickplay.
Things seem to be broken up into insect-themed, Ritual Blood Related, or both, except the Immolator.
In quickplay, if you don't succeed, you're lost to damnation, and visibly burn up.
Aside from burning from the inside, there's nothing mutated about the immolator. No clawed arms like the Armored, no giant chest nest like the Hive, no Leech mass like the Meathead. Could theoretically be the burned, damned personage of any hunters.
@hushed nova Immolators are clones of Reverend Jeremy Byrne, who, after early exposure to ‘plague’ and getting the shit kicked out of him, burst into flames.
Something to do with spiritual energy straight from god actually. Quite the concept.
Really now. I read that and assumed it to rather be something more along the lines of...
Reverend dies out in the Bayou, wakes up and returns home, gets the shit kicked out of him and dies again during that, becoming an immolator.
They just really don't seem like part of this Sculptor's theme, and complications arising from the ritual blood has occurred before with the Water Devils and Hellhounds, which then infect, propagate, and get cloned by the Sculptor.
And Crytek keeps trying to weave gameplay and lore with each other as much as possible. And having both your successes and your failures quickplay be a part of the gameplay and story seems right up their alley.
But if it involves siphoning spiritual energy straight from god during and possibly using the scripture he was reciting that would also make sense.
The origin wasn't necessarily from the Sculptor, but they're cloning him anyway.
Honestly I really love the lore in this game because of how much there is to dig into, and that everything encourages you to draw lines between the dots you find.
Is there a document like a wiki or google doc that kind of compiles the lore? I'm looking to make a dnd or rpg supplement (maybe deadlands idk) based/inspired by Hunt but am having a hard time tracking down all the lore lol
@wise hazel ifyou checked the pinned section here you will see that there are pinned documents with the book of weapons and monster and everything you would need
awesome tyty
No problem 🙂 You have to post a pic once you finish! Sounds like it will be fun
thanks, will do!
Hey hunters, I'm having a hard time understanding the Louisiana Event, I thought it was a basic zombie epidemic, but that doesn't explain where Immolators and banishes come from. Help?
There is a little intro here to break it all down
Basically a cosmic being is invading from another dimension, and is resurrecting the dead and creating monsters to steal souls
@stark parrot Ok. We’ve got an alien dimension with what the Louisiana Voodoo religion refers to as Loa. They’re often considered as demigods, but in practice we are uncertain what they are. We know that they respond to certain rituals and prayer, but we can’t explain said methods of interaction, they’re older than language. Every once in a while, a Loa or other being from this other reality will plop itself in a rift between ours and their reality. Sometimes, it’s just a ghost, and the American Hunters Association shows up, banished it back to its own reality, and making money off the whole event by using what we refer to as “bounties”. “Bounty” is used in two senses, in one, hunters are paid to kill the monsters in the bayou by the AHA, in the other sense, we’ve been led to believe they have a spiritual application that translates to real world benefit. Now, what’s happening in Louisiana is a loa, colloquially referred to as Sculptor, has mutated the people living in the bayou, and cloning these mutations for a purpose we don’t yet understand. On top of that, the AHA is known for less than reputable members who will kill each other for the bounties.
TLDR: what Caucasian said without the souls part
Goddamn thanks a lot guys @junior pecan @wintry panther
Can someone give me a general explanation of the lore
@silk walrus check the pinned channel messages for lore docs
I honestly love that this game goes into crazy Lovecraftian/cosmic horror with it's lore. Also fits the time period perfectly aswell, since H.P. was very prominent in his writing in the late 1800's and early 1900's
Blended with the voudou nature of the bayou and I think it’s a match made in heaven
Agreed 100% They've made such an alien yet realistic atmosphere, and world with this game by combining Louisiana folklore with cosmic deities
is it ever explained how the bloody assassin went to a town disguised and not only didnt get found out but also not kill anyone?
@raven kindle Vincent was his own dude. Whether he is now in Cahoots with Sculptor, or if he is possessed is not clear.
He wasn’t disguised, that’s just who he is
ye but like he could alraeady scale walls and create bugs
@raven kindle And hunters can be resurrected from the dead. Many things can be accomplished through the occult. Just gotta know the right rituals
mhhhhhh i dont buy it
We dont have a lot of info about that part @raven kindle .Its still a mystery
@willow marten As an avid reader of Lovecraft I do highly disagree with the notion that Hunts lore is comparable to the Lovecraftian horrors that Howard was set out to represent in his writings. The cosmic horror is meant to be an unseen thing, so dreadful you'd go mad by just a mere glimpse. Nothing beats it, it's designed to be the worst.
Although, I do enjoy hunts lore. I'd like to read more of it.
I do admit to being new to the Lore of Hunt however
Yeah but the Sculptor could easily be put into the same category as something like Nyalarthotep, Dagon or Cthulhu. It has yet to be seen, but is apparently causing the Louisiana Event. That's what I was mostly referring to with cosmic horror influence. It literally is described as an alien being as well, just like Lovecraft's creations. That combined with the voodoo of the bayou, it is kind of it's own thing though. But that's what makes the lore fun....the theories. If you read what @junior pecan said above my post. You'll see where my connection comes from with H.P. and the Bayou @civic pilot
It's fun to just discuss the lore though, and nice to see a fellow advocate of Lovecraft 
And it's excellent to see others interested in the lore of Hunt aswell
Yes, I did read that. I found it intriguing with such a thing as a Sculptor. I do see where you got the comparison from. The Lovecraftian horrors are the Old Gods, cosmic beings whose impact destroy worlds. I find that the Sculptor is a very interesting and somewhat fitting idea into Lovecraftian horror, but I am also led to believe that the impact of the Sculptor isn't large enough, on an environmental or worldly scale. It's goal doesn't seem to be to be worshipped, thus perhaps torment and dread is more to it's liking. In Howard's writings you will find that the old gods power are so astounding that if, for example Azathoth, would stop dreaming, the entire world as we know it would simply come to an end.
The Sculptor though, I love it's concept. But I would probably compare him to a spawn of Cthulhu, rather than an old god itself.
@willow marten
And indeed! I do wish to speak to more advocates of Lovecraft myself.
Including hunts lore
True. The Sculptor definitely would be more in line with something like one of Cthulhu's spawns. Also, how Prowler described the bayou and "mutations" reminded me of Innsmouth, and a little bit of The Zone from Roadside Picnic/Stalker
Absolutely haha
Man, I like to read Lovecraft aswell... But I haven't read much at all... My extremely bad concentration lvl fucks that one for me xD
Haha, well it's definitely worth it if you can get a good reading session in. And if you can stomach H.P.'s insane grammar and vocabulary
Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm not even a native english speaker, so I don't understand mucg xD
Yeah for sure, they are cool stories. But so far I like The beast in the cave (think it's that one) and Memory. (the last one is a friends favourite).
At The Mountains of Madness, The Colour Out of Space, and The Shadow Over Innsmouth are all excellent and I highly recommend those aswell. If you haven't read them yet
No I have not, might start on one tonight when I go to bed.
@civic pilot @willow marten Information concerning the loa is theory, it isn’t based in lore, only rationale, so it’s even more debatable. Personally, I think Sculptor is more equivalent to the AHA faculty than an old god. If you follow “mirror” theory, then sculptor doesn’t understand what he’s doing. The loa have little to no biological element. When you think of a spirit or ghost you think of a gaseous, immaterial being. That’s what the lesser and greater loa are, gaseous, spiritual. True biology confuses them, that’s why hives and grunts are cloned with their clothes, because he doesn’t understand what makes them effective at killing hunters, just that they are. He can’t make sense of it all, so he just leaves it as is. Judging by the level of control he has over the monsters of the bayou, either his control has been limited, or he has a mental faculty of somewhere between 100 and 1000 people. But he cannot interact with matter easily, nor does he have a full understanding of it. His interactions are limited to spiritual influence, which can in turn influence the biology of an earthly creature in some manner yet known to either party.
That is an extremely cool and interesting theory @junior pecan
Ty, I fear that the devs may be going with a simpler “big spirit is evil because evilness” canon
I hope not. There is sooooo much potential with the lore of this game, if you really dig into it
Avtomat lore?
@rotund ferry designed by night of the hunter. First wielded by some unimportant dude who stole the documents
That’s it
Still don’t know why he was after the twins
This games lore continues to impress me with how deep it actually goes
It goes deep. if you havent read there are more journals on their website too that I have compiled into the pinned doc news
The weapons have voynich on them that sometimes translate into phrases and give a little more background
and there is some interesting lore to be had through other points too like the lousisana case files that investigates everything going on in i think it was 1915 by the us gov
Whaaat?! That's too cool. I'm definitely checking out that pinned document 
Every chance I get and when I see an updated entry in my Monstrom and Weapons sections of the Library....I always end up going in and reading every little detail. Really impressed and interested with the event that Crytek has been trying to make within the world of Hunt. Also the news articles and journal entries are super immersive to me aswell
I love them all, it is such an interesting and morbidly fascinating world. I just wish there was so much more of it
Agreed. The level of detail in the little set pieces on the maps, the writings, the atmosphere. It reminds me of old immersive sims like System Shock and rpg games like the Stalker series.
The Huot though? Weird it's in the game but that's just me.
It’s an alternate reality huot with the mosin as the base weapon instead of a Canadian rifle. (I think it was Canadian)
Lore 💜
I'm still uncovering it and wanna do the base stuff before I delve into all this, I'm loving the lore thus far
@wintry panther wait is the serum from the blood of the sculptor?
No that is taken from other dimensional beings but not the sculptor
Basically harvesting demons
and it seems like the clues itself is also the banishpoint
no wonder its a deep dark hole
it is what links the two worlds, and other hunters have gone into the abyss but have never returned
wont we get idk crazy if the abyss looks back
esp imharlotep
forgot the name of my favorite lovecraftian
Yuup
thats why many hunters go mad
Everything costs and there is a cost to gaining the powers of the hunters
That is why tier 3 hunters look sick in comparison to tier 1 hunters
yeah they jave eyebags
and shaved heads
so a lvl 50 hunter could be considered insane
Tbh creating joke lore could be fun 
why doesnt lynch rally hubters
Another cool thing: so your health bar is actually your lifespan. and that is why if you get burned you lose it. and when you get revived, you sacrifice some of your lifespan to get back up. but banishing a boss brings it back
Lynch cares only for her own interest and manipulated the AHA
@devout cedar lets do it
idnt her interest to kill the scultptor
Dennis will be something like Sculptor 
Dennis is the Sculptor, Maq is the spider, Beedy is the Butcher
Fab is the dogs in the cage
Ic3man the assassin 
I wonder, is there a lore about caged dogs/chickens and horses?
I believe on horses yes, its from the hellhound entry and has to do with a bunch of animals being released
rachta
Nyarlathotep wearing the "waxen mask and the robes that hide
dogs and chickens i think are just bayou
phantom has a robe right
Phantom lore 

and also nyarlathotep is considered a messenger
before i speak let me re read his lore
and also i think it fits the phantom so much
cuz their cult
self amputates
Self-mutilation is a sign of the cult: all have amputations or terrible scars from near-fatal whippings and beatings.
mutilates my bad
and you have a prosthetic arm
disfigured face and a waxen mask

Nyarlathotep, however, is active and frequently walks the Earth in the guise of a human being, usually a tall, slim, joyous man
Nyarlathotep seems to be deliberately deceptive and manipulative, and even uses propaganda to achieve his goals. In this regard, he is probably the most human-like among them.
it fits u so much rachta
That actually fits so well
Don't fail to see Nyarlathotep if he comes to Providence. He is horrible — horrible beyond anything you can imagine — but wonderful. He haunts one for hours afterward. I am still shuddering at what he showed
Unlike the other Outer Gods, spreading madness is more important and enjoyable than death and destruction to Nyarlathotep.
@wintry panther so I heard you’re a lore dealer.
@rare garden depends, what kinda lore you looking for? People around town say a lot of things
Looking for some of the cult lore; specifically Powells cult. Mainly pertaining to the Night Acolyte
Best things to learn from that are through the Mosin nagant entries. An outsiders look in. A little tease is legendary skins of the hunters in the legendary pdf and the Hunt showdown partners page here
I c I c
Anybody know how to get the lone wolf trophy. Do you have to solo queue and kill the boss or can you have buddies but you only kill it?
Don't think this is the right channel
Why on some of the legendary hunters, do some get a good paragraph n others like a line.
@coral charm a lot of the characters don’t fit into the main narrative. And some have more lore that is hidden. For example the Researcher is Harold Black and the man behind the book of monsters. He is mentioned and writes all over the lore. The Rat is the daughter of the Mexican from the good, the bad, the ugly. And more, some characters are elaborated on in other documents some aren’t. I think the devs want to step more into the characters with future lore too. The black coat is the father of the twins from bad as they seem as well
hm alrighty then
Where can I go to read all the interesting lore for hunt
@warm lagoon I’m quite new to the server so how exactly do I get to the pinned lore documents
top right corner of the channel
@warm lagoon thank u very much for that
I wish to procure lore about the reverend if there is any, all I know is that he is mega sad that his church began killing eachother and decided to start his own crusade against the 'evil' and all that
Immolator monstrorvm has something about the reverand
That’s a different reverend
well i know he owns the legendary lebel known as "alter boy" for one
@viscid stream Did you ever watch Boardwalk Empire? There’s a character on there who’s a massive bad ass, very similar mask to The Phantom
The timeframe almost lines up too, but the guy from BWE is a vet from WW1
jeesus christ there hasent been any posts on #lore-discussion-hardcore in over 5 months
whats the point of even having it at this point
the section needs some sort of revival , i remember reading stuff over there with exitment back in the day
I’m planning on throwing a dissertation on mirror theory in there. Maybe traditional lore questions and discussion will stay in here and lore theory can go to hardcore.
Hoping we'll get a big pulse of story content some day. The ideal would be for lore-related objectives to be implemented in a manner similar to Battlefield 1's easter egg hunts.
Complex processes, hidden interactables, cosmetic rewards.
Another thing to do by intent or accidental discovery outside pure bountymurderins
I feel like no game can reach bf levels of easter eggs
My dream would be a secret campaign mode, something akin to the trading cards story, accessible only in bounty hunt by doing a series of specific things
so, like quests in Tarkov?) I actually thought about that kind of thing, it would add some purpose to hunts beside just kill everything
What I can start doing is posting summaries of what we know and summaries of each of the letters there
If that will help revitalize lore or if anyone is interested
What do you guys think? That can be a place to post material and here is more discussion of it
sure, why not
I read whatever entries we have in game, but they are drip fed slowly and require a bit of grinding
I feel like summaries should exist in pinned section so that new guys can have instant access to it, the more advanced topics that require familiarity can be in hardcore, but I don’t think we talk about that stuff too much
I know one of the problems with lore is availability. It’s super hard to get people into it when it is scattered and complex
it's not even that complex, it's just a bit....in the background. You know. Just playing the game it's possible to never know anything about the world unless you go out of your way
maybe some lore could be better incorporated into what players actually do in game
I don't know. I'm not a game designer. Just a professional complainer :)
Most lore links the gameplay to the background story, its supposed to not be in the center of atentiin
Im in for the lore! Know nothing about the world of Hunt, even though I've been playing non-stop the last couple of weeks
last 10 days sooo many hackers
is there a new produckt out or what. in my 2.5K hours if met 3 maximum and in the last 10 days 5 guys they didnt even try to hide it.
@rotund ferry keep this to lore discussions only please
last message in #lore-discussion-hardcore in 2019 😩
When your dumb friend Daniel drops his shotgun
Dog why do you goons keep putting this shit in #lore-discussion
It's lore related if you squint
I see now, still not exactly a discussion
Fair enough, I was just bored and wanted to end up on a FBI watch list
it's amusing you thought you're not on it already
Perhaps, just for the record I did NOT saw off the barrel on my shotgun. I'm not going to catch a felony over a $150 shotgun
Nor am I willing to pay $200 to do it legally
okay,so hear me out...
7 barreled shotgun
that ain't a shotgun
those are rifle barrels I'm pretty sure
but it shoots in volleys
is this a volley rifle?
either way, ur gonna be swiss cheese
gimme
it's technically a shotgun, where each pellet is an accurate bullet
would be cool to have it, but how do you balance it lol
shoot once, spend next 5 minutes reloading?
pretty much
well then bring it on
put this shit in fort and let me gun down anyone who comes close
sure, until some sneaky boy with a sledgehammer doinks you on the dome from behind
haha, fucking nock gun
Shouldnt have 5 minute reload - should just do 75dmg to the shooter in shoulder damage from the recoil
That's not for the lore channel
Gtfo of #lore-discussion you bastards
There's a lore explanation to monster corpse disappearing? Like consumed by the sculptor energy or something? or it's just performance balancing?
@visual finch performance. Meatheads are the only ones whose corpses dont disappear
I hope those optimisations can be relaxed if they don't have a plan to give them a more atmospheric 'fade'. Since grunts are all the same on the inside, all human, I'd like to see them at least remain in place as a static low-poly skeletal heap, implying rapid breakdown after whatever animates them fails.
It would add a great tactical layer to find trails of dried up grunt bones/mouldering scraps in areas where they've died.
I wouldn't even ask that they be accurately placed, just having some remains rise gently out of the ground somewhere near the place the grunt died as a visual marker, a clue, a reminder would add a lot compared to their instantaneous vanishing as it stands now.
That would be cool.
@hidden shale #game-ideas pls!
Alrighty, I'll type something up.
Done.
Hunt showdown Netflix series when? 
You wanna see them butcher this license too?
Yes
in the Empty Cairn skin is mentioned that "John Voelkel cursed himself piercing a black heart, "
What is a black heart?
A black heart is usually used to refer to someone that's villainous or evil @visual finch
With some hint of 'untrustworthy'. There's a connotation of black-hearted people having no ethics/honour/morality, of a propensity for betrayal.
Very archaic, needless to say.
Netflix makes some good stuff idk why people hate it so much
@visual finch it’s in the mosin entries, John was doing some serious voodoo shit to track down the twins, we don’t know what the black heart even was but it was part of a ritual. We don’t even know why he wants to track down Fin and Jos but we do know he doesn’t want to kill them.
I have to say this has a great setting and its very unique . The devs did a great job , i bought this three days ago and im not disappointed
It's extremely unique
So, lore discussion. Can someone tell me what era this game is set in?
late 1890s, but it's not a historic setting
strongly aesthetically inspired more like
Its 1895 and what do you mean not historic?
well, it's an alternative world where supernatural and some sort of magic exists. Also, some items that are available to hunters are pure fantasy
So you would say that the weapons that are in it are from that era correct?
so it's just inspired
weapons for the most part are quite correct, but not all of them
There are questionable prototypes.
Very questionable
Avtomat is the most alternate history part of the lore tbh
really? what about dark vision? what about bomb lance? what about concertina mines? I could go on
All entirely plausible
avtomat is just out of place on a time scale, but there are things that are just parts of a fantasy world
Avtomat was made by the wrong dude, that’s why I say it’s alt history
Lore says a Russian working for Powell made it, and Powell aint based on anyone
And it’s Canadian irl
I don't even argue about avtomat, it's not the most incredible out of place feature there is
The magic shit isn’t magic, it’s pseudo science
ehh
Soul energy and all that jazz
I’d consider it more scifi, but my point in differentiating it is that it does not differ from our own reality, it is an addendum, not an alteration
Fantasy vibes, sci-fi lore
well, it's quite an alteration. There wasn't a zombie invasion of Louisiana in 1895 :)
Not that you know of, but the governor did remark on disease rampant at that time, and it was not a thoroughly populated area
It was designed to be plausible
setting of this game is no more historic than that of a wolfenstein. Less outrageous artistic liberties were taken, but it's on the same scale
Wolfenstein changes the timeline of our reality. Hunt just adds events it claims to be lost to time
That’s the point I’m getting at
It could’ve happened spooky spooky etc
well, if you're a kid telling a spooky story around a fire at night - it could've happened of course :D
but adding events that didn't happen is alternate history
Jeez, ok. Define alternate. We could say it is other, yes? Different even? Hunt’s history isn’t different than ours, it’s still our world start to finish, the only difference is that in hunt certain events transpired that we are not aware of. If we don’t know of these events in both hunt and in real life, the difference is negligible. Without a difference, it isn’t alternate
Trump still gets elected in the Hunt universe, that’s about as far from alternate as I can think of
what do you mean without a difference. Our world and hunt's world split at the time hunt's events take place
No, they don’t, this was my point. Hunt events happen in secret. The AHA is a secret organization that barely knows what it’s doing. The only public knowledge of these sorts of happenings take the form of real world religion.
No one knows what happened in Louisiana because it’s the middle of bumfuck nowhere and the governor explicitly said he doesn’t give a shit. That was a central part of the old lore dossier
Would you believe a murder hobo with weird tunes written all over him if he told you there was an apocalypse down in Louisiana? No, and neither would anyone else in 1895
none of this makes it's setting historic. Hunt's world clearly has different technology, magic, soul energy or whatever other crutch name for magic they use
*runes not tunes
No because some people believe that shit man. Haitian voodoo is a real religion, people think this kinda stuff is legit
It ain’t magic magic anyhow, it’s soul magic. Rational stuff
yea, they believe it...but it's not a thing. Our hunters don't believe in it, they use it as if it's a real thing
and in a world of hunt - it is real
Awfully fucked up to just throw a whole religion out like that
I won't apologize :D
yup, and I respect their right to believe in whatever nonsense they want
but it doesn't mean I respect what they believe in
They’re both probably wrong, but if we look at the bigger picture, we don’t personally know
That’s why it isn’t alt. Because it’s plausible, albeit silly
you are really stretching what is plausible right now :D
Dog it’s a space demon from another dimension, it was always gonna be a stretch. Most religion is anyway
that's not enough! I really wish they'd go for a more sci-fi route, but this whole magic thing is bumming me out
it's kinda lazy
whole x-ray vision shit, but it's part of the game now. It's built around it
Just get into the lore deeper. I’m working on a document outlying mirror theory, THATS where the sci-fi is. Rationalizing sculptors actions through scientific methods
You just gotta get over the soul thing, that’s the biggest fantasy part of it, but even it respects the bounds of established science
just hope in the end it won't be a cowboy sitting on a porch tripping his balls of on some mushrooms, imagining it all happened
I don't see how it even remotely fits the bounds of established science, but ok
Probably not, this shits more complicated than one individual could imagine
The way it describes soul doesn’t contradict our knowledge of neurochemistry, it’s built atop it in a strange way. In the lore it’s highly probable that humans have a very small soul to begin with. One that barely influences us
how dark vision works
Hunters put a little bit of their soul in the alternate reality, positional similarities exist between the two existences, dark sight lets them trace the clues through Loa realm back to their own.
Could also be a sort of energy signature thing
ah yes, I remember something similar in Feynman's works :)
but seriously, could at least be some sort of optical device that does this. Instead it's just something people can do. Like a spell. It just ruins it all for me
Because the soul is immaterial. That’s part of mirror theory right there. The soul is massless, so it can’t interact with mass except through a biological connection.
Can’t get a machine to do it unless it’s alive
Could probably train a horse tbh
Or a ferret
I don’t think we have witnessed material influencing soul actually, only the inverse
Maybe the ritual from pax claw?
Salt circles, there’s one
They’re spell like because spells are based on them. That’s why the aesthetic is that way
In the lore Rituals were created to mimic these methods. In real life, the lore was made to fit the aesthetic
This, pseudoscience
midi-chlorians, dude. It all looks about as "sci-fi"
lmao
I like the setting a lot, btw. I just think there's nothing wrong with calling it fantasy
I think it propagates misinformation. Makes people think the lore is shallower than it is
since when does fantasy means shallow lore lol
It’s easy to just chalk it up to “magic” but the devs put real work into rationalizing it all.
Makes it all more plausible
perhaps to some people it does
Where do the leeches from fatties come from?
Yeah but how did it came from?
Meatheads are what hunter babies look like. They are blind so they use the leeches to 'see'. Idk why leeches, probably just that they were around
what is the origin of the meatheads like are they just a dead persons body or a corrupt soul
two hunters did the nasty and that thing came out after like a month, killing 20 hunters and escaping shortly after
during the pregnancy, the huntress had improved ds abilities
she also only had 1 arm, so there's that
ahh ok
@timid tree https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/d6qhmp/beginners_guide_to_hunts_lore/ there is some info about the meathead too
@marble kernel much appreciated
I wish I could come in here and join in but I've got a compulsion to unlock the lore for myself ingame rather than browse the wikis to catch up quickly.
I normally have a very short attention span and can't play games for long, especially not games with a repetitive formula, but the lore.. it is compelling.
I will work so hard for tiny bits of good writing, it's ridiculous.
Hah me too, its kinda Frustrating because Most of the time I try Not to Trigger enemies to prevent making noise
One way I've found to grind xp on weapons is to go into a match, find a clue, then stay in the dark areas of the map killing every mob you see. It's boring and slow but it works
tfw no white coat
is there lore that i can read or watch?
@marble kernel thank you friend
No problem :)
诸葛弩 is fake, ineffective at best...
is there a SCP section for Hunt ?
@cunning spruce no, but the lore is structured that way. You can check pinned messages for all of it or check the link above for a summary
Thanks Kebab
YUH ITS DONE
i just need to figure out how to post a doc
is it normal for a tree to be in the middle of a corn field?
im not good at agriculture but for some reason Hunt's lore makes me dont trust plant based object
and that tree i saw in the middle of corn field seems suspicious
okay i wont
So "The Louisiana Event"...could that be considered a similar type of event to "The Zone" from STALKER? Basically I'm wondering if it's considered more of an isolated event or if it's more global in Hunt's lore. Could've sworn I read something in the monstrom about stuff going on in the Yukon
@willow marten it's one of many, so its sortof inbetween
those things happen from time to time, but this one is special in some way
That's pretty cool ngl. The source material for STALKER was the Russian novel Roadside Picnic which talked about alien trash being left in different parts of the globe creating these "Zones" . So it actually sounds closer to that
Devs said its special but we dont know why. Mirror theory says its an alien race just as confused as us, and this time the alien “in charge” actually knows what he’s doing.
Theyre actually really similar to the creator of the zone in the stalker games, but not the book
Immaterial, and capable of weird indirect influence
Huh that's really cool. I always got a Stalker vibe from Hunt. Going into the Bayou as a Hunter and learning the Zone like a Stalker would. Weirdly enough, most of my favorite games deal with a similar theme of an isolated event (ex. Darkwood, Pathologic 1&2, The Long Dark) something about it just really interests me
Its not nearly as apocalyptic as most others. The events in hunt are like mutual first contact over and over again. The loa are so drastically different from us to the point where we each struggle to understand the others actions and very existence
We are like hyper active rocks to them, and theyre like spiritual weather to us
That's pretty interesting. Not too many games or media that I can think of involving extraterrestrial's ever having a hard time comprehending us. Most of the time we just think of them viewing us as hostile, or stupid. Pretty cool idea to make it a more mutual ground
Would any one be interested in some fan fic?
@rigid hollyyou can post it in the fanart sections so it isn't mistaken for real lore
We are like hyper active rocks to them, and theyre like spiritual weather to us
@junior pecan thats some lovecraftian shit right there
@green prawn it is but it goes both ways https://docs.google.com/document/d/18XyEj3ccE5GFhbaTMJ-imv-Uq37SxG81jZKX3Qk9pUU
This is lengthy, but its the best explanation i could make. Its currently the most comprehensive theory we have but its complexities make me think the devs couldn’t have come up with it.
So where do you guys think the devs will take the lore? There are so many interesting mechanics described in the lore entries and it makes me think that some of them could be implemented in the actual game. There are so many events that happened in the bayou except bounty hunt, they could easily create separate game modes or extend existing ones
I think that odds are the devs dont actually have a coherent lore structure and are just having fun writing plausibly deniable texts without realizing how cool the story could be
And i doubt theyll add anything beyond legendary skins, as much as id love something like the ‘lamplighters’ concept
Could easily be explained as a fascination with combustive reactions
But, again, that would require mirror theory to be true
They are constantly adding mechanic tie ins. There wqs talk of an enchanting mechanic involving a tarot deck, described in the ea lore and in the machete lore, but that seems to have been delayed or canceled
Also @junior pecan what do tou mean by lamplighters?
Probably it wouldn't be like so, but imagine if concertina armored carry new lore.
@amber harbor The true deck was not enchanting, thats foreseeing the future. I think the problem with that was that it cant really be utilized in gameplay very well
Lamplighters was an idea for a passive mob that goes around and lights lamps, simple, but it could be used for so more. It could intentionally toss lamps at boss campers, or follow players across the map. Stuff like that
Can any one link the official lore/stories about this game?
@rigid holly
Thank's
we need an inverted LeMat
Like shotgun shells in the cylinder and a rifle cartridge in the under barrel
@worthy onyx what draws you goons to write this shit in the lore discussion channel
ima keep it real with you chief, thought this was suggestions
No need to throw a fit
Imagine a scarecrow as a boss? But then again it would have to be out in the fields and I don't think they would add boss's in the open like that. Still a scarecrow boss or not would be pretty cool.
@worthy onyx ^
You guys are like moths to this channel its so damn peculiar. I thought there might be some consistent reason people drop stuff like this in here
It doesnt happen in wiki
no I’m usually pretty good about posting in the right channel but I was up late last night and I guess I just read the discussion part
Do we know what year the gameplay of hunt is taking place?
I have been pouring over Lore Documents, and find that the first major incident at New Orleans happened in 1895, but there are also lore documents as late as 1910.
It takes place in 1895
Got a source?
@unkempt mountain what we have in the books are documents compiled in the present day. A modern day researcher has looked for old papers, rumors and such related to the Louvent
Another thing is even though the event started in 1895 there's plenty of evidence to support there's been many hunts in the area (mass graves, cages around the map, etc)
well, the event has been going on for quite a while, thats why the grunts are so far spread and those chitinous corruption things
plus, those events are a regular occurrence , but this one is special in some way
Wonder if we’ll ever know what is so special about it 😦
about the Louisiana Event?
I'm guessing its something about our understanding about the other side, but I cant remember what it was exactly
@polar fable Almost definitely has to do with its cyclical nature. Mirror theory asserts that its because this is the Loa equivalent of discovering oil.
Other than the monster manuals, is are there any other places I can read an overview of the lore (more like a summary)
@west rivet check pinned messages in this channel of the discord
Pretty sure Varuun’s lore document has a summary
@junior pecan I’ve read you theory and I must admit that you put a lot of effort into it and it looks very impressive. Great work and I hope the devs will also unfold the event in some exciting way
@polar fable Thank you. Although its currently the most comprehensive explanation we have, the lack of lore content concerning such abstract and interesting concepts leads me to believe the devs are going for a more unexplained stephen king esque evil force. A seriously missed opportunity considering how well the theory happens to fit into the lore and theme of hunt. A perfect reflection of the greed and ambitions of the AHA and its members
Henlo lore humans. I was wandering around either like catfish grove or port reeker maybe? (I’m still not super good at remembering places) and we found this weird little window that had what looks like a big mechanical duck????? Inside??? That we couldn’t get to either. I was wondering if any of y’all knew anything about that :<? Is there like a story behind it maybe :U
it's a nice ducky easter egg, there's also lots of little rubber ducks around the map
REALLY?? 👀 today I go search for duckies. We spent like more time investigating this duck then going for the bounty lol
there's a boatload of easter eggs around the map, have you seen the bob ross zombie yet?
@real flare that was the northeast corner of port reeker, pretty sure you can still get in there. The window was originally added so that people couldnt camp it in quick play
I saw the bob ross one! @tidal shell but I spent too long staring at it and got clobbered 😭😭
YOU CAN GET IN THERE? @junior pecan I wish to witness. The large creepy ducko
they should add some minor variantiation to hive/armored models
@patent condor this is lore discussion, try suggestions. But as for lore, all monsters are clones so it makes sense theylook the same
perhaps further mutations caused by the corruption / the power left behind by the sculptor ?
@cosmic totem could work, but it takes away from the lore
Do we have any idea of what or who the sculptor is or what it is
Lore doesnt actually tell us but Mirror theory is probably the best and most rational explanation youll get. We know its from the Loa realm, and we know ritualistic actions do occur between human beings and Loa. These ritualistic actions are the basis for Human Religion in the lore with some unimportant exceptions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/18XyEj3ccE5GFhbaTMJ-imv-Uq37SxG81jZKX3Qk9pUU
Unimportant exceptions being the fact that contemporary Haitian Voodoo has been catholicized and still believes in the concept of Jehovah as a sort of over-god
That link will indirectly tell you what the Sculptor is for the sake of explaining what the actual fuck is going on in the Bayou
Word of warning that it is all theory and almost all of the hunt showdown lore is plausibly deniable in the first place. Nothing is true, believe what you want
Oh
So
The load just in it for the body’s
So do we have any idea what the loa wants the body’s for
Or is that still up in the air
Hey guys, do you know where can I start reading up the lore?
the Library
you'll unlock lore as you start playing and kill monsters and use weapons
alright, thanks @covert pike
yep yep
@dire solar or if you dont want to grind there is an archived version in pinned comments
thanks
@split dawn Its explained in the document but it is difficult to fathom. Loa is a big spirit thing because matter is rare in its reality so it evolved to secure energy through spiritual means. Humans are the opposite, little to no spirit and secure energy through physical means. The loa wants the bodies and the hunters want the bounty because it gives them access to a rare form of energy not found in their respective realities. Loa gets biological tissue for use in combustion (fires) while hunters get the bounty for use in rituals.
wait so the painter fished his photo but died while siting there and someone took it and framed it?
idk i find this at school of arden parish
thats so weird
it wouldnt make sence for the apocolypse or whatever to happen and someone to take it then frame it in a house
is that 1985?
yea
back to the future is set in 1985
thats the whole movie
this is weird
i cant tell what the letering is for the top pic
and the e=mc2 was discover in 1946 by einstein
Do the zombies feel pain
it is implied the soul is still inside the zombie and is fighting the influence of the loas. They are kept alive by a pulsating hive of bugs
bois can anyone explain the origin of the curse i know about the incidents and all , but its still not clear to me if it is a virus or curse or what
is this not in the right channel to ask for?
Check pinned messages
hmm i didnt see any quick info
can u just say if it is a virus or what
i was searching on youtube and in the books but it wasnt clear

would be nice i really love the theme and the game
i'm sure @wintry panther can help you with that once hes on
the sculptor is behind the incident so i'm guessing it's more towards the curse/magic side
since hellhounds have glowing eyes for example
@wintry panther buddy can u help me
yea i thought that
is the sculptor thing verrryfied
I gotchu
Best way is to read the grunt entries it’s a more analytical look at what is inside the body
yea i ve done that
Sculptor thing is verified
so he is a thing that makes the bosses
and the grunts are a zombie type based on a virus
we could say that there are two things goin on
but thanks 😄
Yeah the special creatures and bosses are deliberate creations where the zombies are more mass produced
got u thanks for the infos
@tribal stream what is the sculptor??
dude that makes them bosses
are there pictures of it?
i dont think so
i am just starting to get into lore so i am the wrong guy to ask buddy
ok thanks bro lol
@warm quest @tribal stream https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/d6qhmp/beginners_guide_to_hunts_lore/



