lore-discussion

[supple smelt]

at least the skin variants look different

[granite shard]

yeah it's nice that there's more differences than a dress color or a hood lol

[supple smelt]

the worst one was the grotesque skin

the variants look identical

[granite shard]

yeah

I don't think I'd ever be able to tell you which one is which if I saw them in game haha

[supple smelt]

literally just the eyes

[orchid tangle]

I originally thought grotesque was just gonna be a male and a female but dude just has two torture suits

[supple smelt]

Corvid brood and bile does it right where 90% is the same but the parts that matter aren’t

If you’re going to have the same body make the helmet look very different

[mint wind]

Bile is so underrated.

[fickle sluice]

I mean... we have giggles.

[granite shard]

yeah and we also have the one visually joker clown guy

somewhat normal (with sanity already cracking a bit) girl being brought into things by a crazy guy and then snapping herself is very harley quinn and the joker so One Fear

[fickle sluice]

I am not sure how I feel about these fairy tale hunters. I gave Red Riding Hood a pass because I liked that she went all metal on that big bad wolf. But joker, alice... it's too obvious. Santa was weird too, but I admittedly like bonking people with a bat as santa. I wish they'd stay away from obvious references and moved back to at least somewhat genre adjacent stuff.

[granite shard]

yeah I'm not huge on it

[fickle sluice]

Alice wears the same outfit as Disney Alice...

[ember halo]

Man the Alice games were fun

I actually like the grotesque variants.

There are one of my favorite more recent skins.

I much prefer them to (not) batman villains and (not) actual fairytale characters from hot topic

[tired spear]

I love the Alice one. Sure, it's a very obvious nod to the fairy tale, but it's also period accurate clothing that's clean and not over the top for the Dream variant, and a really creepy, really cool nod to Madness Returns for the Nightmare one, that's also not covered in trinkets and details for the sake of visual complexity. I really like her.

[fickle sluice]

I don't have issues with the skins themselves. They are great and the art people have done a great job as always. I just don't find them fitting. Basically the same issue that I had with the PM stuff. Looked amazing but didn't fit.

[supple smelt]

Idk I think they don’t visually clash with anything in hunt

[spiral mica]

Ever since we got Boody Red I assumed it was just a matter of time we get an Alice hunter at some point. It's very clearly a reference to other media, but it visually fits the setting so I don't really have any issues with it.

[quaint pawn]

The Fool is out on spotify

love the callbacks to the last event and Let Us Prey

[orchid tangle]

what the flip

[quaint pawn]

what the flippity flip

I can listen to it

https://open.spotify.com/track/4sT6B6qAntSsOKyvMEEQ0P?si=yAo7nvKHRQ2kF2rYP-PIiQ

[orchid tangle]

crytek hates me

I'm too lazy to vpn it or whatever wil lmake it work

[quaint pawn]

Damn

So they really made it timezone based

[acoustic whale]

so no more post malone lore continuation?

sad

[zenith perch]

The new dlc will be available today right

[real cedar]

Pretty likely to be, seems like it's following the usual announcing it 7 days before dropping it

[zenith perch]

New main

Her and Silver Spur

[candid fulcrum]

Idk if this counts as Lore but do the Songs from Port Sulpher connect like i listened to "Let us Prey" and in the first seconds was Judgment of the Fool mentioned and in the New Song was said close the garden Gates so does anyone know if Other Songs connect aswell ?

[real cedar]

Hmm kinda, Marked for Death and Drowning Water both mention 16 people lost to sea. Most are only related to their specific event or to Hunt in general rather than each other.

[zenith perch]

Drowning Water is the best song from Port Sulfur

[candid fulcrum]

Mh i guess but i thought it had also something to do with the Frame of the Songs like the New 2 Songs got a Diffrent frame then the others but i guess im just schizo

[real cedar]

They're both part of the Tarot Trilogy so that's why they have a new frame.

[upbeat kiln]

That one is my jam too ❤️

[zenith perch]

[candid fulcrum]

Ahh okay didnt know that but i love small details like that

And Thanks for your time

[zenith perch]

I need lore

Please

I'm not home yet

[noble scarab]

Retribution stains hunting grounds red as The Pale Judge arrives to sentence The Fool. Dorothy Alice aids the disgraced Doc Redmartin to ward off his long-awaited punishment. Amidst treason and mayhem, Orwellian Effigies appear once more and draw the gaze of The Prescient and her arsenal.

From the patch notes

The effigies and mentions of the prescient are intentional then

Also we’re stuck in Desalle till the 23rd

[strange bane]

Let’s get it!! (Once servers are good lmao) also good morning hunters

[gilded umbra]

Good Morning ☕️

[granite shard]

“Draw the gaze of the prescient” is so funny

What gaze are they drawing my girl’s blind

[supple smelt]

third eye clearly

[orchid tangle]

at least the law themes of the event made the detectives boosted

so clearly they can't be dead!

[strange bane]

Cheers all , morning K!

[bold ruin]

I’m just hoping The Bone Doctor makes it out ok

Worried for my boy

[strange bane]

Absolutely. Doctor John was also blamed for the infection initially I think , goated character

I feel a kinship with him solely because my main duo buddy runs him religiously

Lol

Now we wait for servers to come back up. Yeet

[spiral mica]

I always thought this was ironic because it seems like he's the one who has done the most trying to stop it.

[strange bane]

Absolutely. Dude is a legend in the early lore

He’s made it a long time. I think he deserves some lime light story wise however I’m aware of the risks that come with said limelight

[bold ruin]

He’s honestly such an interesting character, hope more is done with him but I agree with you, anything could happen if that becomes the case

[strange bane]

Here’s to hoping

[granite shard]

honestly I want to see more abt him raising felis

[strange bane]

Let’s hope ole Sheriff is enjoying his retirement lmao

100% agreed

Would be Wholesome and sad methinks

[bold ruin]

That or some more about the Penitent

Ngl, with the event being about law and order it would be cool seeing him brought to justice for his crimes

[supple smelt]

I'm surprised they haven't done an entire event around hardin with a new skin for him or something

he kind of seems the favourite for tying stuff together

[granite shard]

tbf desolation's wake was the hardin event

no new skin for him but big narrative focus

[supple smelt]

Deputy Hardin would go hard

[noble scarab]

Hardin as a Backer, perhaps

Only after killing another Backer and taking their place of course

[zenith perch]

did anyone get the lore for the new marathon skins before the servers got taken down

[median badge]

Nope

They looked epic tho

Definitely will cop

[strange bane]

How long do yall reckon it will take for servers to be up? Lol

[candid fulcrum]

Meh if its Lore Accurate like 10 hours or something like that

[strange bane]

Lmao

Fair

Tried napping too excited, feels like mini Christmas

Lol

[candid fulcrum]

Yeah true but its ruined by people that cant wait :c

[strange bane]

Back to New Vegas

If that’s me I apologize was just asking choom

[candid fulcrum]

Nah i mean the Spammers just annoying

[strange bane]

Oh fair fair

Cheers

[candid fulcrum]

yeah have fun in New Vegas

[strange bane]

Thank you, my Courier is in his gambling addiction arc rn

[brazen root]

General scares me

[granite shard]

It’s certainly something today

[brazen root]

I didn't know there were this many hunt addicts

[noble scarab]

Have people been brigading

Do y’all not work

[candid fulcrum]

me too bro me too

[noble scarab]

Tho I guess rip to my twitch drops if the streamers can’t go

[candid fulcrum]

Some are just sitting in the loading screen and still give drops

[noble scarab]

Nice, those folks are doing the lords work

[strange bane]

Yeah I just checked general. L o r d H a v e M e r c y

[candid fulcrum]

they are trying there best and still get hate for it

[strange bane]

I love the work they’ve done , and I know I couldn’t pull off something remotely close if I tried game dev. So I keep any would be hate to myself unless it’s constructive criticism but my bias for hunt is real

[long cliff]

any one have a solution for this?

[noble scarab]

Wait lmao

[gray fable]

May I ask a real lore question

Other than critiques

I was wondering if there was ever some hints about Russian hunters since there are Russian guns

[granite shard]

I don't believe there are any russian hunters at this time

[gray fable]

Ah ok.
Cuz Russian guns like Mosin in America in 1890s is kinda wild so

[granite shard]

yeah, there's some explanation for how these guns got to the states with the carcass gunrunner being a weapons smuggler

and random hunters can have russian names, but I don't believe we have any eastern european hunters in the game atm

(I could be forgetting someone tho)

[gray fable]

They do have Slavic names sometimes yeah

I’m not too aware of the lore of the game but I was thinking it would be cool if someone from Russia or which ever country holds onto the guns from their country and says special lines

[acoustic whale]

lore still down?

when will lore be up

[gilded umbra]

The poker table at Pearl Plantation in DeSalle has blood splatter on it as if someone got caught cheating. Was it Bad Hand?

[granite shard]

the bad hand got shot there, I don't think he was cheating tho

[gilded umbra]

And now he’s The Revenant 🧟‍♂️

The lore in Hunt is phenomenal.

[zenith perch]

i was able to get in game, but cant play in a match

only menus

[granite shard]

Servers aren't officially up currently

[zenith perch]

ah

the new dlc is in the store but you cant buy it

[granite shard]

here's the marathon lore btw -- same for both guns

[zenith perch]

yeah

thank you Smalls

you the best

[granite shard]

haha thanks, I have a friend who's in and asked them to get a screenshot for me

unfortunately I'm at work so I can't try (or maybe fortunately, for the sake of the servers haha)

[zenith perch]

cant wait to get that skin, been wanting a good skin for the marathon

dont like the other two event skins much

Got into a match, Mets see if it's empty

[gilded umbra]

But I thought that’s why he was named Bad Hand for being a cheater.

[zenith perch]

Let's

[granite shard]

I always assumed it was bad hand bc his hand was, well, bad

like it was a shitty poker hand bc he had bad luck

[gilded umbra]

Oh, ok. 👌🏼

[supple smelt]

how are they in

[granite shard]

The servers were kinda letting people in for a bit

[supple smelt]

did you see they sell the same skin twice just because of the variant lol

[noble scarab]

General chat is crashing out

That is kinda messed up tho about the marathon skin

[real cedar]

It's a weird thing for sure. I think if they want to do bloodbond agnostic skins setting up a system of permanent bundles would be the way to go. 50% off for especially identical ones like Silver Wing so you buy one normal price and get one free.
Perhaps that's worth putting in #game-ideas

[granite shard]

yeah deffo worth bringing up

[real cedar]

Damn, I shoulda stayed up all night and got into the game ASAP to get screenshots of all the lore.
I took a quick gander at all the Rookies and they're ALL new lore. One mentions searching for his buddy Delacroix, one is infatuated with the Corvids, I forget the others.

[supple smelt]

😭 that means I have to download another 26 gb patch when they fix it

[granite shard]

oh pog that's gonna be neat to look into when it's back up

[real cedar]

27 new blurbs to read into, very fun

I did like the old blurbs in the way they set up styles for the hunters and gave a general overview of the many ways people join the Hunt but I can see why they'd want to make the stories a little more interesting

[granite shard]

I think there were some that were just......

bad

[supple smelt]

There weren’t any new rookies just new lore right

Also did the other tiers of the rookies have any different lore

[real cedar]

The actual structure of the writing for some, yeah. The concept was nice

[granite shard]

like there's that one that will always stick out to me bc it was basically just "she liked to kill people"

but without any flair

[real cedar]

The other tiers should have new lore but I didn't check em yet. It would be kinda disjointed for the rookie to be talking about delacroix and then the survivor talking about "Well it's honest work hunting, simple as" without any throughline.
No new rookies, the trailers were just using models they had on hand but weren't intending to tease.

[supple smelt]

let girls have fun

[granite shard]

look I love supporting womens wrongs

but there's gotta be flair to it

[supple smelt]

I hope we do get them, I wonder if any of the rookie stuff ties into anything or anyone else

[supple smelt]

“murder is fun” isn’t flair?!?

[real cedar]

The Tiered hunters shouldn't have too much flair, they're just mooks in the grand scheme of things. If one is an angel of mercy serial killer then that's good enough for a whiteshirt.

[sacred phoenix]

inspired by "Eugène Delacroix": Driven into a corner by his conscience, he ingests the Tokens himself, becomes a subject, and is sealed inside a device within the foundry. After releasing a kind of toxic “miracle” (the oil ignites, and a magma creature emerges), his trail goes cold.

[real cedar]

Huh, I hadn't considered the name might be a reference. Not sure I see the Hellborn's connection to Eugene Delacroix though.

[granite shard]

looks like one of the rookies has stuff to do w the night of the hunter now

honestly what a glow up of a bio (first one is the new bio, second is the original)

[real cedar]

Ooh that really does have much more juice to it

[granite shard]

I don't have any of the second/third tier hunters unfortunately, just the rookies

[real cedar]

I've got em all so I'll check em out soon

[granite shard]

feels bad that this is a reference to a writer who I believe got laid off in december

[supple smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

okay imagine that was a skeleton falling over

[real cedar]

Linkedin says he's still at Crytek so who knows. Maybe it's outdated or maybe he's still around

[granite shard]

a friend mentioned he was hit in the wave but maybe she's mistaken?

[noble scarab]

looks like all of the tiered hunters got new bios

plus some of the random blood bond/tiered guys did too

[granite shard]

is this new?

[gilded umbra]

Yes 🤠

[real cedar]

The image is new but the text is old. It was out of the loading screen roation ever since 2.0 though

[granite shard]

gotcha

[gilded umbra]

I was correct and incorrect simultaneously.

[gray glade]

What would a lore reason for patch rollback look like

[granite shard]

That sometimes things go wrong

[mint wind]

I think I spotted a rainy loading screen btw...

[earnest jungle]

Y’all I have an insane new theory.

You know how Lynch is trying to ascend to Godhood to kill the Sculptor: what if the Sculptor was the same.

What if the Sculptor was a mortal who ascended to godhood?

But not just any mortal: a mortal from a prehistoric civilization of highly advanced arthropods from the Paleozoic era and that’s why he favors insects and spiders

And why it’s older than humanity and its mouthpiece is a fossilized insect that looks more like a human head than any kind of bug fossil.

Charry talks about this I swear I’m not crazzy:

I wish to hear of the nameless "Silver Scarab Goliath" who pulped insectoid maidens into mercury at the first age of the Sculptor. There are fables of worms endlessly burrowing across desolate lands, sludging in unison, charting pathways and inscribing memories for a mind too big to shroud a single sky. ```

He seeks these stories because he believes they’ll help him understand the Sculptor and what it wants and why!?!

No human has heard these stories because anyone who could have witnessed them has been extinct for centuries and all traces of their civilization wiped from the world!

The Sundering was the Ascension of the Bug Anti-Christ to Godhood better known as the Permian-Triassic extinction event

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-crazy-pepe-silvia-gif-27373442

I swear I know how all of this looks but I'm not insane:

Would a mad woman change her name to this?

[strange bane]

Lore channel is back in business, haha time for some light reading

[earnest jungle]

Anyway I look forward to Crytek's Next Game | Hunt: Showdown: 1896: The Sundering: -2.50001896*10^8 BCE: The Revengance of the Sculptor

[earnest jungle]

Well this aged interestingly lol

[real cedar]

The Event Boosted Hunters really confuse me.
Both Silver Spur and The Prescient aren't boosted despite being the only old Hunters that have any narrative connection to the event.

[granite shard]

Silver spur I get if he was just in the trailers to represent a bounty hunter

The prescient is weird tho

Since she has weapons in the BP lol

[spare steeple]

Question guys. Did the fool kill the judge’s daughter?

[real cedar]

The trailer almost makes it seem like that but no, it was a bandit that the Judge had let free, and then the judge later killed the bandit with his gavel.

[spare steeple]

Thank you

[real cedar]

Alright, collected together all the new Hunter lore. All the Tier 1-3s got their bios reworked, and they're all nice improvements with more connection to the lore and the game world.

[granite shard]

Pog

[gilded umbra]

Interesting 🤔

[granite shard]

These are just so much better

[tacit leaf]

Can someone explain why The Spirited and Silver Spurs don't get additional event points?
Davies is quite important to the lore of the fool with the fact that he sold him out, and silver spurs was used in both event trailer and battlepass screen
It might be just me, but that's a weird joice to do so

[real cedar]

For whatever reason, the decisionmaking on choosing Event Boosted Hunters is somewhat disconnected from the narrative. Hayali and The Researcher weren't boosted for Scorched Earth despite having speaking roles in its story.
Even weirder, they chose to allow a Mythic skin to be boosted this time around, The Skinned. Maybe they also boosted The Scaled Ward? I don't have that one so I can't find out.

[granite shard]

OH THAT’S WHY I SAW A SKINNED IN GAME

I was surprised bc I never see him

[real cedar]

I was thinking of maining Prodigal Daughter or The Phantom for this event but now that I think about it, I ought show off the Skinned to people who've either never seen it or forgot about it

[orchid tangle]

aw jesses a genuine good soldier now <3

[gilded umbra]

I was so close to unlocking that hunter. But I have his dusters.

[earnest jungle]

It's ambigious: a bandit certainly mutitlated his daughter and the Judge certainly holds the Fool in some way responsible for his daughter's death but the exact details aren't clear yet (at least to me)

[orchid tangle]

I have been a little confused on what the timeline is on this event

like the fool gets punished once by the judge and that mask is put on him, but there was also another point where a group of people cut his face up when he was a convict (two different punishments?)

were the tarot cards always a thing he did? I assumed it was just a niche he picked up after his daughter died and became corrupt, because... well that's corrupt but for whatever reason the sentencing of "fate" to the fool doesn't feel like it lines up with the present after his daughter died to me idk why

[real cedar]

You've got it mostly right. Doc Redmartin poisons people with his all-cure, then Eddie Davies sells him out to the townsfolk who mutilate him basically right when he walks out of the saloon. The Fool continues to make trouble and the Judge gets on his tail - the Judge already picked up tarot after his daughter died when he released a bandit against the warning of a fortune teller (the implication being that he was into it enough to ask but not so much as to heed it with total faith) - and when the Judge catches up to The Fool, he does the tarot sentencing but draws The Fool card, so instead of execution The Fool gets that face mask, and goes on his merry way causing more trouble. So the Judge follows, hoping to pull an S-Rank execution from his occult gacha

[orchid tangle]

okay okay

that makes sense

[real cedar]

One last bit of lore I forgot, new charms. One references the Moon trilogy again, the other is yet another charm for the Welders

[granite shard]

I might be dumb, what part of the moon trilogy is it referencing?

I thought vapors were a light the shadows thing

[earnest jungle]

They were

Vapors were light the shadows

[orchid tangle]

kingsnake mine doesn't glow anymore :(

[spiral mica]

Its funny since while the rest of the pacts headed off to Colorado the Drowned pact stayed behind in Louisiana to ensure there would be no more graven paths.

I wonder what Lynch's reaction was to the murder circus just appearing into the land of the dead.

[real cedar]

Hmm you're right I thought the vapors made it into Traitors moon or something but it seems chary contracts were a thing instead

[granite shard]

Yeah charys contracts I think were added in the winter event before traitors moon

[spiral mica]

Before my time, but did any of those older holiday events have stories attached to them?

[granite shard]

Not really

Traitors moon was the first proper event lore we got

[real cedar]

You got harold black ranting about christmas mythology in one and then a poem in a video for the other

[spiral mica]

Oh, so there weren't any event stories for the Scrapbeak event or Light the shadow?

And what about any of the Halloween events?

[noble scarab]

There were blurbs but nothing much

Halloween was just about the evil pumpkins

[earnest jungle]

Lynch is the reason why there will never be another Murder Circus. They’re going to go full Poochie on the Murder Circus event mark my word

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-to-go-now-i-have-to-go-now-my-planet-needs-me-poochie-poochie-died-on-the-way-back-to-his-home-planet-the-itchy-and-scratchy-and-poochie-show-gif-20635516

[orchid tangle]

they gave him a pear of anguish

I think the t1 should've been happy he just had a gun to his head

[noble scarab]

What is buddy doing running around with that

Your dental practice doesn’t need that

[earnest jungle]

So what do people think of my perfectly sane “The Sculptor was a Prehistoric Bug Man before ascending to godhood” theory?

Am I cooking or am I cooked?

[gilded umbra]

Cooking 🧑‍🍳

It was fascinating to read. And it made me think about how Lynch’s aspirations might very well be inspired by a previous successful ascension.

It makes sense to me.

[earnest jungle]

As Scognamiglio would point out stories of mortals becoming gods can be found across the globe

Perhaps there is some truth to these stories.

[gilded umbra]

Lynch could become a boss, literally and figuratively.

[obtuse timber]

Does anyone know why they are Orwellian effigies

[shrewd jewel]

So is the Helio Stone (the post-malone event) very relevant to the lore or just a one off thing or alternate name for something relevant?

[orchid tangle]

post malone thing didn't really have any lore so I thin kthey were just redoing the murmur stone from tide of corruption

leader of group takes in magic stone and then group goes to shit

[heady tree]

Anybody know if Sofia's charm about Lulu's dead cat is a reference to someone's actual pet? I can't recall the name now...

[mossy sorrel]

I'm guessing Lulu

her cat

[heady tree]

Lulu isn't an actual person. She is a videogame character. I mean if some player/employee/fan's cat's name was "immortalized" in this Hunt trinket. Some players seem to have requested such things before... Maybe just not postmortem.

[upbeat kiln]

I have waited for this.. for so so long..

[signal lotus]

It's implied that this mouth wasn't carved open

But his ass

With that

[signal lotus]

I thought he was going to execute anyways??

idk kinda weird

Why use tarots lol

Just kill him

Sets him loose then plans to grab him again and hope he can get the death card?

[brazen root]

Oliver whitman's lore, the basement northeast of corn is the rat sacrifice basement, this is huge

We're so getting the rat boss

This confirms its not just an easter egg

[signal lotus]

oh jeez

There's no glasgow smile tho

Just the mask spread his mouth open

[void basin]

I'm assuming the Pale Judge is a reference to Judge Holden from Blood Meridian?

[real cedar]

Visually he's an homage but the characterization is totally different. I don't think they make any reference in the text related to him either.

[void basin]

Right that's what I meant by reference.

[real cedar]

I don't think it confirms anything, just that the newer writing is trying to tie the lore more into the game world. The Brute book of monsters entry referenced the doll easter eggs in Stillwater, Tonya Wegman referenced setting up spooky mannequins in places, one of the other Survivor skins talks about supply points and caches, and another mentions setting up the shooting range. All of these used to be things present in the game but not the story.

[void basin]

There's a few Blood Meridian references in this event too

[real cedar]

Which ones?

[void basin]

"The Fool" and the "Pale Judge" both resemble characters from the book, at least in name and visually. The theme of fortune telling as well. Glanton's gang takes on a fortune teller early on in the book who foretells the fate of multiple characters and the gang itself in Spanish which they ignore. And it turns out to be all true at the end.

They're mostly subtle references I guess

[real cedar]

Huh, didn't realize The Fool could be a reference too. I had heard a bit about the tarot card stuff like how the book visually describes a bunch of cards but ignoring a fortune teller is more concrete. Pretty cool!

[void basin]

Yeah that's just what I found doing a quick glance at the event and immediately thought of because I've read the book probably 5-6 times.

[earnest jungle]

It's pretty subtle stuff the Fool is the Tarot of the Protagonists and the fool is mutilated by the pale judge and at the end of the book the kid is figuratively or literally mutilated by the judge

[faint nimbus]

I know event boosted DOSENT mean anything without factions but I’m still surprised that silver spur isn’t an event boosted hunter considering he’s in the trailer and his weapon scheme is in the bp

[granite shard]

I guess it's since the weapons are technically the judge's this time around

[real cedar]

It's a similar weapon scheme but not identical like the Sparks skins are identical to Ghostface/Angel of Death's

[granite shard]

I think the sparks skins are tied to angel of death this time tho

since they're all kinda abt something in blanchet graves

[real cedar]

Yup, she's got a big ol set of guns related to her and the Night Tyrant

[spiral mica]

When somebody asks me if Joker is technically in Hunt now

https://tenor.com/view/joker-haha-evillaugh-thejoker-laugh-gif-5302593

[real cedar]

We've got 2 out of the three jokers at least

[orchid tangle]

in the trailer when the judge crushes someones head with his hands could be loosely from what he does to that guy who tries to stab him at the cantina in the book

[spiral mica]

I didn't really realize at first until I launched the game and played for myself, but his name is "The Fool" he's got a permanent smile, all the etched writing around his hideout is reminiscent of the famous "Why so serious" quote, his suit with the Boutonnière, the whole tarot card theme he's got corresponds with Euchre cards. A common nickname for Joker is the clown prince of chaos, and fool remarks how he's not hiding in madness, but reveling in it. It feels like there's a lot of similarities here, and maybe it is all just coincidences or maybe it really is a reference.

And here I thought Pale Judge was going to be this event's big reference.

[noble scarab]

If we have the joker and Harley who is Bruce? Is Kev Robin in this situation

[spiral mica]

Good question. Maybe we're due for a bat themed hunter in the future.

[real cedar]

I really hope not, comic books just don't belong

[earnest jungle]

Y'all remember that time we got a whole ass article about some guy who was in an abusive relationship with the moon?

And then he did something that caused a whole ass river to dry up

[delicate ferry]

So, this is my attempt to give lyrics to 'the fool'.
I am going to say it's pretty darn accurate, if anyone wants to check over my work they can.

"soil our anchor bay, root the forest veins, ruthless retribution, lock the garden gate. I say my lines and I make you believe. Predator, prey, and the wolf bare its teeth. The center of the archer, I wait here in the dark. you think that I am a victim, so you come in unarmed, but I lay there bleeding, and so you believe. predator, prey, and the wolf bare its teeth. Say goodbye, an eye for an eye. You don't need roots if you are going to rise. Love to judge a fool to wave the wicked heart, and I may be a fool but, your the one who's caught. I raise the knife and you still you believe, predator, prey and the wolf bares its teeth. Say goodbye, an eye for an eye. You don't need roots if you are going to rise."

[real cedar]

🤔 Do you think they teased the next event in this one too? Center of the Archer fits the trilogy naming scheme but also not quite evocative

[granite shard]

I think that’s “the center of the orchard”

It doesn’t seem like there’s an event teaser for me off the top of my head but I wouldn’t have caught the judgement of the fool stuff until we got all the judge teasers lol

[delicate ferry]

oh, it totally is orchard

[noble scarab]

Buddy was laying pipe in lunar soil

And cheating on his wife

But it’s the moon, I think it’s ok when it’s the actual moon

[real cedar]

I tried transcribing as well, got a few differences and one word I'm completely unsure of

Roots, the forest veins
Ruthless retribution
Lock the garden gate
I say my lines and I make you believe
Predator, prey, and the wolf bares its teeth

The center of the orchard
I wait here in the dark
You think that I’m the victim
So you come in unarmed
And I lay there bleeding and so you believe
Predator, prey, and the wolf bares its teeth

Say goodbye, an eye for an eye 
You don’t need roots if you are going to rise

You love to judge a fool
To weigh the wicked heart
And I may be a fool but
You’re the one who’s caught
I raise the knife and yet still you believe
Predator, prey, and the wolf bares its teeth

Say goodbye, an eye for an eye
You don’t need roots if you are going to rise```

I don't know if it's bay cause I hear both a more popping p at the start and a c or s in the word. Pace, pains, bays, idk

[noble scarab]

I hear bare or there maybe

[real cedar]

I might be hallucinating the C/S tbh

[orchid tangle]

I like that the descriptions for weapon skins don't change inbetween types

so the no clemency says the judge pressed the skull to peoples foreheads, which is reasonable enough on the normal one but for the shorty that means he's essentially holding out the handle of the gun to the other person since the only skull on the short is above the handle

[zenith perch]

Rat boss with a rat themed hunter like rotjaw and gar

I have assumed a new identity

Morrigan Enjoyer is dead. I have destroyed him

(Until they hopefully bring back the Crow event with the scrapbeak themed gear)

[dense stag]

Can someone explain to me why the Brute can occur multiple times in a match? Lorewise, it is a young man stitched into a bear, so it would only make sense that it is singular or? It was also created by Grahm and not by the Sculptor

[granite shard]

The sculptor makes copies of things

[brazen root]

It plagiarizes

[granite shard]

So the first brute was the dude sewn into the bear, and then the sculptor ctrl+c ctrl+v

[dense stag]

even if it wasnt created by the scultpor? wouldnt that also mean that the butcher can for example spawn 2x in a 2 bounty match?

[granite shard]

There might be a difference with the monsters that drop bounty tokens

Like that might take too much energy to make multiple copies of at once

[noble scarab]

I feel like somewhere it’s talked about how there’s only 1 of each boss “copy” at a time

[dense stag]

ok thanks guys

[granite shard]

Yeah probably

[real dove]

My understanding is that each AI has a 'cost'

Some are easy (grunts) some are harder (immo, meathead) and some are only able to be one a map (bosses)

[supple smelt]

printer doesn’t have enough cyan ink to make them

[granite shard]

Lmao

The sculptor’s using black and white but goddamn HP

[supple smelt]

If we take xp to mean anything then that’s how hard it is to make those

So the grunts aren’t turned undead people from the area? They’re copied?

What if the hunters were all copies too

The sculptor makes all the hunters based off the original ones that entered the bayou but died long ago

[real dove]

My understanding is that each copy is fused with a fragment of the og creatures soul

Hence why they also all act the same

Some souls cost more

The bosses were described as being demons more than souls

We have 2 human based bosses (3 with Hellboy) and 1 fused soul with the spider and then the butcher who is a taxidermy meathead stuffed with clay- kind tracks why it has the same meathead swinging chasing animation but idk when he learned to throw fire

Imagine if the Meatheads chucked leeches at you

[supple smelt]

honestly all melee zombies should be able to chuck stuff if their ai can’t reach you

[real dove]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-throw-throwing-knives-angry-woman-angry-girl-knife-gif-25213809

[spiral mica]

Isn't this what the clown grunts did in the circus event?

They would carry around a single throwing knife and throw it, but one thrown they couldn't throw anymore. It would cause bleed.

[loud steeple]

I never had a clown zombie throw the knife at me once

[spiral mica]

It happened to me maybe once throughout the whole event.

[ebon panther]

Throw a gun at you and it goes off in a random direction

[zenith perch]

Man

The Night Tyrant skins and the Dead Mans Cut skins are some of the best skins in the game

Hunt bounced back fast form this latest review bomb

[drifting plover]

I dont know if it was already discussed here but someone else noticed the new building in the background of the lobby?

[real cedar]

Yup, it's the same building they used for the Judgement of the Fool trailer and teasers. It uses the Upper DeSalle bank as a base and then extends it out on the wings and adds a classical cupola to give it that government courthouse look.

[drifting plover]

Maybe teaser for a new map?

[real cedar]

Likely not, just a 3d render to use for the lobby backdrop and the teasers, no different than the cornfield with a circus during Murder circus or the Welder's shack from Garden of the Witch.
We're still 2 or so years away from a new map, they won't be teasing it any time soon.

[real cedar]

Now you gotta find the other letters in Pearl Plantation and Lower DeSalle to put the story together

[snow vapor]

What is the Angel of Death lore

[granite shard]

Basically just what you see on her DLC page

[snow vapor]

Damn that’s it

[granite shard]

She’s a new release so that’s fairly standard

[snow vapor]

Gotcha

[granite shard]

I do wish her DLC page got into more about her as a person but it seems they mostly want her to seem like a spooky ghost story/rumor

[snow vapor]

Ahhh okay

[supple smelt]

not a huge fan of the skeleton hunters ngl

[snow vapor]

Like the voodoo community?

[supple smelt]

no like the reaper and this skin

they kinda look like Halloween costumes

[real dove]

👀

I think she's great

Better than reaper

But to each their own ❤️ I do wish her gun skins were her own. But maybe in time we will get more on her.

[real cedar]

Of all the agnostic skins, I like the Night Tyrant set the most for its design and also for having a sort of mystery to its story

[supple smelt]

I really don’t like the fact they’re turning battlepass skin styles into the default for all the dlc ones

I’m glad to get a new skin for the drilling but it was much cooler when each gun felt unique to their hunter

Feels like it started with the ghillie skins

[spiral mica]

I wonder if Angel of Death and Reaper will have any interactions in the future. They both dress similarly and haunt the Bayou like some malignant boogeyman, but to be fair we've got a lot of hunters that fit that description it's just not all of them dress like a ghost or grim reaper.

[real cedar]

It'd be easy to write her as another "Death screwed up and I don't like it" Death Pact character, especially with the Crypt Seal skin implying she stays in Blanchett Graves just to keep the dead down. Idk if she'd travel around with the crew or just be a scene-only type like Mama Maye was

[granite shard]

I think it would be interesting to explore another side of death with her. One unassociated with capital D Death and more just doing her own thing

[spiral mica]

Do we have a character who is immortal and enjoys killing? Basically the concept that taking the life of another person is the only time someone like that is able to experience the one thing they could never have. A death.

Reaper kills because each time he does he retains memories to live, but a character like this would kill because they could never die. A true Prometheus's punishment circumstance where immorality is a terrible curse instead of a great blessing.

[loud steeple]

That stopped when they stopped caring about lore but not caring about lore has had a surprisingly negative affect on player counts seemingly so they’re trying to give us a little lore stuff now

[brazen root]

Tf

Me when i just assume things

[supple smelt]

1896: they removed the electric lamp
Player count goes down

Wow I can’t believe the electric lamp being removed is the cause for all of this guys

[granite shard]

Honestly the lore thing goes hand in hand w public perception but it’s not directly due to the lore

Like having lore shows that there’s care for the game beyond profit and stuff and seeing it as an art form. But there seemed to be a shift away from that for a time in hopes of widening the audience and whatnot

Now as they’re trying to pull stuff back and bring back what people liked abt the game, and restore public opinion, we see lore returning

[radiant sail]

hunt is like an abusive relationship, they fuck you up but you stay for the apology 😭💔

[strange bane]

It really feels like Hunt is back. My old trio got back together for the event and played on and off for almost 24 hours yesterday lmao

Cheers all , good afternoon and evening

[real cedar]

Huh, I hadn't noticed til now. Crypt Seal: Silencer is different from all other Sparks Silencers. It's long af.

[arctic ridge]

Am I just tripping or did they change the lore for the tiered hunters? Oliver Whitman was my favorite and I could have sworn on my first borns soul that he was a chef that killed his boss and fled to the Bayou. And part of this lore was that he changed from carving up meat to carving up men. He's now the Rat Man and I need reassurance I'm not losing my mind.

Please help

[spiral mica]

Yeah, they reworked a bunch of the tier hunter bios with this update.

[spiral mica]

You can read through all of them here.

[earnest jungle]

I just realized Chary was never actually the Director of the AHA he was the Administrator of the Louisiana AHA

[arctic ridge]

Okay good, my gaming buddy I'm with right now was gaslighting me and I was losing it lol. Thank you for the proof.

[earnest jungle]

I wonder if that means that Finch had been the Previous Administrator: he certainly seemed to fill that role at least when Huff was still around.

I wonder if that also means he had a hand in Huff's death

Finch was wrongly implicated in the death of his wife Elise and Huff seems to have him over a barrel as it were and whatever grudge existed between Huff and Hardin did not seem to carry over to Finch

[spiral mica]

Glad I could help

[earnest jungle]

He seems to hve been a financier but he does not appear to have been one of the mysterious Benefactors who funded the AHA in exchange for Bounty Tokens.

[gilded umbra]

Is it true that this event is a trilogy? I saw someone say that here.

[spiral mica]

I think Rai entertained the idea that it could possibly be a trilogy, but I personally don't see much of a reason to make it a trilogy like the moon and tide without the addition of the event stories.

[real dove]

They called it a trilogy in the dev vid iirc

tarot

[gilded umbra]

Excellent

[granite shard]

The tarot trilogy

[orchid tangle]

I wish we had more room for merch at crytek so we could get like a tarot deck with hunt art style or a rotjaw plushie instead of a shirt with a very small bloodline rank on it that costs more than the game does most the time

[gilded umbra]

I would like to have figurines of each boss.

[orchid tangle]

if they can manufacture bomblances I'll buy one

[noble scarab]

They did a hatfish shirt, that one might be worth it

[orchid tangle]

I almost got the five of nightmares when that came out but then I remembered I don't wear t-shirts

[ebon panther]

Even better, a hatfish hat

[real dove]

id love a bomblance

someday will get one made

i talked with a blacksmith but wasnt in a place to throw the money at em for it. but someday

[orchid tangle]

It's only worth it if it can shoot too

[real dove]

Nah. It takes a lot of time and effort to smith something like that. Even if it didn't shoot I'd pay a good chunk for it

Shooting would be a plus but just having a metal and wood piece would be cool enough

[fallow gorge]

Did he give you a price? Seems like it would be an exorbitant amount to have a bomb lance replica nevermind one that's functional

[real cedar]

I imagine the main problem would be getting the metal contraption part to look good while also not being poorly weighted, if not for that whole part it would probably be a fair price. Kult of Athena makes HEMA-ready glaives for $200-300.

[fallow gorge]

Rai my savior, is there a way to get back into the lore? I've been gone since serpents moon

[real cedar]

You can read through the compendium in order, that gives a good overview. There's been some new Book of Weapon entries since then along with the Tide trilogy onwards, and a scant few new online blogs. I'd recommend going to either the Official Hunt lore archive or the Hunt wiki.gg lore section for the event stories though, that way you can listen to the narration.

[real dove]

It was 1.5k iirc, which I thought was pretty reasonable

He wanted to make it legit work

[fallow gorge]

Honestly, I was expecting way more. That's very reasonable, maybe one day we'll have a working replica 🙏

[real dove]

Someday lol, just not willing to drop 1.5k+ on something like that right now lol

[earnest jungle]

Do we have a first name for Victor Caldwell's dad

AHA

It's Henry Sammuel Caldwell

Thank you book of weapons

Also you know what would be cool if they added one of the Winchester Prototype Revolvers as the Winfield Adversary as a follow up to the Rival Lore from the book of weapons

I also wish we had a first and or last name for Lynch

[granite shard]

honestly I like not having a first/last name for her

I think it's possible she straight up doesn't have one

[real cedar]

Unless it's someone else, we may have a first initial from the oldest lore. A train ticket in the Louisiana Case file says A. Lynch

[cunning agate]

is anyone else having server issues?

ive just had to put fire out on myself 3 times for it to finally stop

big rubber banding too

[granite shard]

you probably meant to put that in another channel lol

[cunning agate]

right I did haha

there we go

[granite shard]

lmao

[spiral mica]

Actually that brings up a lingering question I've always had. Is Lynch the first or last name?

[real cedar]

Last name. irl, it's a common enough surname, with nearly 4,000 soldiers in the Civil War documented to bear it. In game, there's also a gravestone in Healing-Waters Church that has the name Edward Lynch, which may or may not be connected to our Lynch.

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I remember joking about finding a mention of Lynch in this amusement park attraction newspaper.

I wonder what the A in Lynch's file is. Abigail? Alice? Annette?

[real cedar]

It's one of those things that we probably shouldn't learn. Any answer won't be as cool as everyone just calling her Lynch

[spiral mica]

Did anyone else notice this at the Fool's hideout? It's the yellow coat and mask he wears in his alternative appearance.

I thought it was a pretty cool find, but I didn't know if anyone else had seen it first.

I also noticed a lot of differences between his two appearances. You've got the obvious ones like clothing and equipment, but his mouth and teeth are also noticeably different between his two appearances. It would appear he collects teeth of all kinds, but I wonder if he performs dental implant procedures on himself as part of the whole body horror theme he's got going. It actually reminds me a bit of that short horror film on YouTube simply called "teeth."

[real cedar]

Noticed this on First Testimonial Church.
I'm pretty sure that doesn't say Ralph 🤔 looks like Clive to me.

[granite shard]

I wonder if they changed his name later on to Ralph but didn’t get the graphic changed

[acoustic whale]

I'm confused what the lore is about now

where are we in the story?

like is the story progressing or just hunter lore?

[real cedar]

The story is in stasis while we chase pumpkin men, clowns, welders, and fools. One day we'll get back to it

[granite shard]

We have the potential for lynch to come into play in the next event since this is the tarot trilogy

[earnest jungle]

Imma browse Irish names that start with the letter a

[neat juniper]

I belieeeeve
My queen must keep winning

[acoustic whale]

dude i don't care about lynch

give me sculptor lore

[neat juniper]

😔

[orchid tangle]

I want chary

[earnest jungle]

Medicine in the 19th century was wild: Got a morphine addiction? Take Cocaine about it.

[earnest jungle]

Lynch lore would necessarily include Sculptor Lore

Everything Lynch does she does to satisfy some unknown grudge held against the Sculptor. Thus any bit of lore about Lynch is going to by extension give us information on the Sculptor

[loud steeple]

Chary evaporated didn’t he. I don’t think he’s coming back

[granite shard]

I don't think it's impossible he comes back, esp not w his totems back on the map

[earnest jungle]

He didn't evaporate he got pulled into the land of the dead after fucking up a ritual because he got his occult artifacts mixed up of interference from the Demented and Death Pacts

[granite shard]

he and lynch both fill a really similar villain role so he's been put to the side as she took the spotlight but he'll probably be back after that

[earnest jungle]

Lynch and Chary coming together to form the Polycule from hell

[granite shard]

haha

[earnest jungle]

A Revenant Elwood Finch is brought along reluctantly for the ride and Glanton is Lynch’s Transfem Puppy-Girl/Human Pet.

They all move to Portland but they go to the wrong one and now Circe Elias has to deal with them being her new neighbors.

[earnest jungle]

I know it’s not necessarily cannon anymore but this was always my favorite of the old posts from the Hunters Desk:

I can feel its blood in my veins. It pulses and burns. It whispers; it screams. Tears at my skin from the inside, threatening to rip through, rip out into the world. Through its eyes I see the world of shadows. In the shade I track and kill. To feed the darkness in us all.

It says so much with just so little

It really leans into the viral nature of the corruption in a way you don’t really see so much in the lore.

The spiny tendrils bursting out across the paper searching like blind centipedes for uncorrupted blood: the pale redness of their tips contrasting with the deep redness of the corrupted nucleus. The way the blood seems to almost pull towards the knotted root-work only to recoil upon the faintest touch of the corruption

[orchid tangle]

I mean they made it a point for the other character (I think it was felis?) to mention that "he didn't die" and "just went somewhere else"

I don't think you'd say that unless you plan to reuse the character

[granite shard]

yeah

[noble scarab]

Buddy kinda dissolved into steam but I’m sure he can be sublimated back into a body

[granite shard]

he's just put into the cupboard while lynch is out

he cut himself into tiny pieces to enter the land of the dead before

ain't his first rodeo

[strange bane]

Who is Glanton in relation to the game’s lore? Is he/she based off the Glanton Gang leader?

[spiral mica]

I really don't want Chary unless I know for sure we're getting event stories or some kind of other narrative back first.

[strange bane]

Here’s to hoping for an event story next event, would compliment the finale of the tarot trilogy and give us something more to remember it by story wise

[granite shard]

I'm hoping that they put something online this event

they talked a few times abt event lore so Hopefully

[strange bane]

100% agreed

[spiral mica]

I went to check the website the other day to read some of the old chapters, and I noticed Devil's moon isn't in there. Devil's moon had at least 2 audio chapters, and the others were readable.

[granite shard]

yeah they didn't upload the moon trilogy for some reason

frustrating

esp w the way they're referencing it w the new charms

[spiral mica]

I hope they do eventually.

[real cedar]

Glanton is a farm boy turned patricidal cannibal veteran hunter. The name could be a reference to the Glanton Gang, or it could just be a coincidence.
Journal of Daniel Glanton which covers the Romero Masteries has his story, as well as the Romero Hatchet skin Sins of the Son. He's mentioned by John Victor to be the first known person to kill the Spider, and then Harold Black also comes across him hanging out in a church waiting to kill the Assassin after a prolonged fight made the boss flee.

[earnest jungle]

I was making a joke: I’m a Trans Lesbian so I like to joke about certain Hunters/Lore characters being LGBT. Glanton was a Hunter infamous for his sadism and depravity believed to have been groomed by Lynch to become her ultimate weapon against the sculptor. It’s a storyline thats never really been followed upon or even explored really.

There are canonically Trans/NB Characters: Viper, Gar, Iron Bark, Sofia. But with the exception of the Viper their transness is inferred as opposed to explicit representation. And in some cases it’s not even that: it’s entirely extra-textual statements on the gender Identity of the characters JK Rowling Style.

[brazen root]

oh interesting, didn't know that

[orchid tangle]

when they first came out I just thought they wanted the snake to have equal attention tbh

[earnest jungle]

Like Chary is not explicitly queer in the text but there is a certain homoerotic subtext to his interactions with Finch and he was close enough to the Viper to know their Preferred Pronouns.

And of course Viper trusted Finch enough that he was prepared to murder children on his word alone

[earnest jungle]

So I suppose I should state for the Record and since it’s June

Canonical Queer Rep:
Sofia + Lulu (nblw)
Mary Burgess + Circe (wlw)
Alison Davis + Jos McGowan (wlw)

Thomas Bridger (mlm)
Alvise Seiko+ Inuta Bakin (mlm)
Elliot Schneider (mlm)
Hayden Collins (mlm)
“Jonas” “Gator” (mlm)

Sofia (nb)
Ironbark (nb)
Viper (nb)
Gar (MtF)

[granite shard]

Wait Hayden Collins is queer?

Good for him

[earnest jungle]

Yeah if you read the Water Devil entries it’s implied that Collins met up with “Jonas” at a Gay Bar.

“He Came to Me,” “I have not given up any of my vices,” “I was drawn to his face.”

[real cedar]

Very thinly implied, similar to Alvise & Inuta Bakin

[earnest jungle]

Not to mention Jonas is pretty explicitly depicted as Gay in the short story

[wind pebble]

anyone know why the phantom is missing the opposite arm in his royal variation

[real cedar]

RachtaZ requested the arm change so that the prosthetic hand is doing more cool stuff on the main hand and so that syringes aren't going into the prosthetic arm

[wind pebble]

had a feeling about that, wish they would change the other one to match

or make up some lore to fill in that anomoly

[real cedar]

A model change would definitely be easier than a lore change. Hard to explain someone regrowing a limb and healing a limp, and then subsequently having the same injuries happen on the opposite side

[wind pebble]

yeah lmao

[noble scarab]

Remind me who’s Elliot Schneider

[granite shard]

I forget which gun but it was sometime in the tides trilogy release window, dude who went down into the bayou and fought alongside Monroe for some time

Had a husband back up north

[noble scarab]

That rings a bell

[granite shard]

Maybe the drilling? I don’t remember off the top of my head

[real cedar]

Uppercut precision & deadeye iirc

[granite shard]

Yeah that sounds right

[noble scarab]

that was the one we also got a bit about salter in

[fickle sluice]

Okay, so not all mentions are playable legendaries? I think I got most names down but some didn't seem familiar at all

[real cedar]

Yeah, most lore these days deals with legendary hunters but the early stuff puts quite a few text-only characters in. Salter, Glanton, Huff, etc.

[fickle sluice]

Sure, but there are big names like Huff or Salter and then there's Joe Everyman. Thanks for clearing that up

[spiral mica]

I forget but did that guy from the Haymaker mastery have a name? The one who was offered a spot as a hunter, but refused and turned tail as soon as possible?

[strange bane]

I think Reason to return is my favorite charm this event, it’s such a cool callback to Ochenkov’s Widow and the devil’s moon event. Also looks really nice

Close second would be that brooch

[granite shard]

the references to the moon trilogy this event I find really interesting

[strange bane]

Such a pretty looking charm, and the lore is heartwarming if a bit tragic

[granite shard]

like there's two charms and then the orwellian effigies or whatever they're called

[strange bane]

Also rtr is a wax cylinder message, like some event chapters were

[granite shard]

oh that's fun

WHAT IF IT'S A HINT

AND WE GET VIPER VOICE ACTING

[strange bane]

Right? Lol I geeked out over it

[granite shard]

please crytek I'm on my hands and knees

[strange bane]

Would ascend right there

Start floating lmao

Cheers smalls, have a good one choom

Cheers all

[granite shard]

🫡

[strange bane]

[noble scarab]

An empress soon to rise

Hmmm

Crytek please

[granite shard]

obvi the empress tarot card but also

lynch time babey (I hope)

[spiral mica]

I'm genuinely curious what the contents of that letter it mentions was, and even then the charm itself only mentions it's a small portion of a larger letter between the two individuals. It also teases a potential relationship (friendly or unfriendly) it's totally ambiguous.

[spiral mica]

Btw did anyone have an answer for this or nah?

[noble scarab]

Micah Mitchell per Rai’s compendium

[fallow gorge]

They'll never bring Lynch 😔

She's like the twins

[granite shard]

I'm thinking lore more than as a playable hunter

[noble scarab]

We got a lot more lore this event than the last few but we still don’t have a story

I think a story with Lynch would deserve a longer write up

[granite shard]

I think there's time for us to get a story

I don't think we'll be getting anything in game, but probably on the site

[spiral mica]

Thanks, and yeah you're right I could've just checked the Compendium too lol

[earnest jungle]

LYNCH! LYNCH! LYNCH! LYNCH! LYNCH! LYNCH!

Idea in braib

Twins as event skin where Jos and Fin are two different skins of the same hunter.

[tired spear]

as much as I'd love Lynch as a playable hunter, i also don't want them to give her a tangible appearance

same goes for the twins actually

It would be like seeing the sculptor, we'd lose that ethereal menace kind of vibe

[neat juniper]

I mean, that is easily rectifiable by just making whatever we see a specifically organized 'public appearance suit' that these menaces wear
Or seeing one limb of a sculptor at a time, poking unnaturally into our world

Like we would see something, but we also would know there's still a large part hidden from our view

[brazen root]

Yeah If we ever see the sculptor, as long as its a lovecraftian eldritch creature we can barely see and comprehend a tiny part of, anything from hermaeus mora to the g-man would be cool

[granite shard]

I think getting a physical appearance for lynch would be cool since she is ultimately a tangible being that exists in the world

I think even a hunter would work for her since she did work as part of the AHA for a time

imo the coolest would be getting her as a hunter but also as an AI

[tired spear]

imo she should be a boss if she's ever added to the game

since sure; she's been part of the AHA, but she's also the original antagonist

Besides, hasn't she been lost in the land of the dead?

[valid dirge]

Alr but hear me out: Land of the Dead event.

[granite shard]

That’s just tide of desolation lol

[valid dirge]

Oh nevermind. I stopped playing in 2021 (my PC broke and I had no money) and started up again in post malone so like idk anything about previous events.

[granite shard]

Ah yeah, so the tides trilogy in 2023 basically centered around the land of the dead getting fucked up and ended in it encroaching in the land of the living and also hunters having to go into it

The weather effect ash bloom was meant to be the impact of the land of the dead on the land of the living

[neat juniper]

It also had sound effects of something walking around you :) those were dead people :))

[spiral mica]

I remember people talking about a land of the dead map, but I feel like we're a long ways off from anything like that.

[spiral mica]

My thing is I don't want characters like Lynch or Chary to be featured in future events unless we know for sure we're getting event stories or some kind of other narrative back. I'd also settle for adding new stories to the website if they really can't be featured in the game itself.

And on a semi-unrelated note don't we already have a description of what Lynch looks like? All I can remember is she's old and has white hair.

[ebon panther]

This is a rather meaningless description but she is hooded according to a progressive hunter skin

Cloaked rather

[real dove]

i dont think shes old

not in appearance

since she is apparently a skin stealer

going off the witch hunter's story

she's got white hair and is irish

[granite shard]

No she’s old in appearance

Bad as they seem describes her as being in her thirties but looking twice that

[real cedar]

Lynch was twice their age and looked older, her skin worn and weathered, leathered, her face crowned with a wide-brimmed hat covering a thick white-blonde braid.
Physically 30s but a hard-worn 30s I think is what the line means. Years out in the field, stress of combat and injuries (and other occult shit they don't know about). Like a 22 year old that just got back from WW1, but more like a decade or more of whatever Lynch has been doing

[granite shard]

Damn I misremembered

I remembered the twice their age being in her 30s and then just had that on my mind

[real dove]

chuh

i assumed she had the tangled thing going on

aged quickly so kept stealing new skins to wear

[granite shard]

Oh my god. One of my mutuals on XHS just posted some art that made me realize something

It’s not that the fool is the jonkler (tho he is)

He’s the mad hatter

[noble scarab]

I mean he feels more jonkler than hatter

I guess we do have Alice

But his hats not enough of a top hat and he lacks the more capricious nature

[granite shard]

Okay I gotta send the art bc side by side it’s like oh yeah

(Also the art is great)

Like he is still jonkler but there’s mad hatter too

[spiral mica]

I agree there's a ton of similarities between him and Joker. I listed a few of them at an earlier point.

[spiral mica]

Yeah, here's all the observations I've made.

And it might be a stretch, but you could also make the observation that this whole thing between Pale Judge, his daughter, and Fool is reminiscent of Commissioner James Gordon, his daughter Barbara Gordon, and Joker from Batman: The Killing Joke, but like I said earlier this all could just be a massive coincidence.

[granite shard]

I'm just trying to point out that there's likely an intentional mad hatter thing going on with him since he's tied with alice lol

not saying there's no joker, just that there's also another influence there

[real cedar]

Oh damn 😂 I hadn't noticed til now but The Fool is carrying some serious hardware

That's the pear of anguish

Perhaps that's how he got his scars

[mint wind]

It would be fitting if it was finally used a torture device.

[smoky anchor]

is that….uh…ya know

[real cedar]

Nah it's for the mouth, though it's like the iron maiden where there's no historical evidence it was used as a medieval torture device, more of a renaissance historical curiosity.

Also known as a choke pear

[real cedar]

New mission for Lorehunters:
There's a letter that spawns on a bed in the Fool's Hideout, tucked into the pillow pictured here. It's hard to discern what it says just by aiming at it so bring a spyglass and take screenshots of all the text. It doesn't always spawn it seems, I first saw it at the Fool's Hideout next to East Mountain Corn, but then the one next to Ash Creek Lumber didn't have it.

[granite shard]

Oh boy

[real cedar]

😔 It's just Lewis DeSalle's note from the Pearl Plantation well

Weird that it's only there on some hideouts and not others

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I've noticed certain things will change depending on the location of the hideouts, and I don't know if that was intentional or just a simple visual choice without much thought put into it.

But I've also simultaneously noticed that some things do in fact stay motionless throughout the hideout locations across the maps. Obvious stuff like the trait spurs and other interactables stay put, along with unique additions like Fool's yellow coat and mask from his secondary appearance.

I'd have to look more closely to see if the locations of any of the etched writing at the hideouts changes or not, but from what I can immediately tell I think it stays in the same spots without any variations in the writing itself.

[half marsh]

fun fact, the purpose of that thing is unknown

it's assumed to be a torture device but historians believe it's just as likely to be a fruit juicer

maybe the fool is just a lemonade enthusiast

[supple smelt]

I'm fairly sure it was another iron maiden type thing where in the 1800s they ascribed a purpose to it that didn't exist

and it might've been entirely a fabrication like the iron maiden, I don't remember

[fickle sluice]

Coming back to Lynch for a second and just for the record: I am fairly sure, I don't want to see Lynch or learn factual information about her. At this point, she's the kind of character that would get their myth ruined by more information. I don't need Midichlorians in Hunt.

(as amazing a boss Lynch would be ...)

[earnest jungle]

I think there are ways to introduce Lynch into the game in such a way that preserves her mystique.

[real dove]

god same

i dont want her as a hunter

i will 100% take her as a boss

ie, she gets fucked up with sculpter's powers and turns into a boss

[acoustic whale]

i'd take a more interesting boss

we want a scary cool boss

[spiral mica]

Add more lore to the website first, and then give us a new boss. I want entries on Hellborn and the bear like we have for Rotjaw.

I like the idea of Lynch as a boss more than a hunter. We already have plenty of mentions of her in the lore, and a general idea of what she looks like albeit a vague idea.

I'd like to imagine Lynch looking something like a Voidmother, but with more of a detailed appearance based on the description we have of her.

[noble scarab]

she probably looks kinda like Circe

since she's evidently wearing her sister's skin

plus we have the descriptiosn from BATS, white hair and I think a specific eye color

[spiral mica]

Someone said earlier she wears a hooded cloak or something akin to that, but I'm not really sure what her definitive appearance is. All I do know is she has white hair and looks pretty old. I do recall it mentioning she wears the flesh of Circe's sister, but I'm unsure if that means literally wearing her skin all bloodied and sewn together, or if she's actually masquerading as her sister through magical means like some sort of skinstealer, skinchanger, or skinwalker.

[real cedar]

I'm pretty sure it's more magical as nobody else notices something wrong with how Lynch looks.

[fickle sluice]

Iirc Lynch vanished, right? Something to do with the rifts? Or am I completely mixing something up? (Please, correct me)

I'd love Lynch as a tough as nails boss fight. Imho she breaks the power curve enough to have an event constructed around her. Imagine a community goal, like we had back when Scrappy was introduced. Some weird weather effect that phases in and out like ash bloom or rain. When it's active, monsters are more dangerous. The community coming together as a sort of reformed AHA, focussing their efforts to contain lynch and making her vulnerable in the first place. Then, when the goal has been reached, Lynch appears as a boss

[real cedar]

Yeah, she escaped the Twins by crawling through a rift into the Land of the Dead, she can only exist in there or in corrupted areas now.

[fickle sluice]

Thanks! That's what I thought.
God how I'd love to see some sort of war between a reformed AHA and a group of Demented (or something along those lines) fighting it out.

The possibilities for community participation alone would be great.

[spiral mica]

I think the Demented are pretty much all but annihilated by this point.

[real dove]

I'd LOVE to see her "corrupt" a poi

Am event where chunks are land of the dead ized

Of the map

I know ash was meant to kinda be that

But would be cool to see more

Or have the white statues appear in game as event totems

[earnest jungle]

Ooooh that gives me an idea for an event

Something similar to that but like a war between Lynch and the Sculptor like two infections fighting each other for control of the deadzones.

[gilded umbra]

Butcher’s Cleaver 🪓 and The Beekeeper 🐝 survived right?

[granite shard]

apparently yeah

[spiral mica]

I'm still not quite sure if I believe the bee and pig from the scorched earth event are butcher's cleaver and beekeeper, but at the same time I really can't discern who else they could possibly be. I'm merely making the observation that the Demented pact has had way too many confrontations with pretty much every other pact to still be organized as a collective.

[gilded umbra]

I remember that story with Pig and Bee.

[spiral mica]

The only two demented hunters who have been "killed" that I can remember have been butcher's cleaver and beekeeper. Others like Scarecrow, Cowl, Morrigan, and Midian are seemingly all okay and still alive, but if we assume bee and pig from scorched earth are butcher's cleaver and beekeeper then they're all fine I guess? It seems really strange because they're a group that has had their plans continuously thwarted by the other pacts.

[noble scarab]

the poor assassin guy we got did fuck all

buddy helped maybe feed the butcher's cleaver to some beetles then was not mentioned

[spiral mica]

Cowl is a cool addition, but aside from deposing butcher's cleaver and becoming the new leader of the demented he really didn't do much at all.

[noble scarab]

i still hope we get a spider themed hunter at some point

[spiral mica]

Like, I don't want to somehow suggest that he was a macguffin character because he does have a whole backstory and everything, but his character feels like it was put into place solely to move the direction of the demented along as a group.

And you're right he was only mentioned I think once by beekeeper during the tide of desolation event story where butcher's cleaver is consumed by beetles.

[real dove]

It's likely there was intended to be more story for cowl

[granite shard]

Yeah I think we all kinda have to keep in mind stuff got cancelled

[topaz mirage]

I have a theory…

It’s about the lord of the bayou in hunt showdown

[gilded umbra]

Lynch is the lord of the bayou.

[strange bane]

Ran into a mythical sight last night in a match lol, downed a Union Suit

Felt like a good omen, been rolling the DT dice every other day to no avail

Do y’all reckon it’s actually possible to get him these days? Haha sorry if not relevant

[noble scarab]

It’s possible just rare

[strange bane]

I loved his first appearance randomly at the end of DW lol. Just accidentally shooting and starting the firefight

Sounds like me after some ale haha

[noble scarab]

I got bad hand off a roll before they did the twitch drops addition

[strange bane]

Yooooo

You got that natural 7 in luck I see lol

[noble scarab]

I mean it took a long time

[strange bane]

Fair enough

[noble scarab]

Best chances for getting those uniques are owning all non-event hunters and getting lucky or during twitch drops if they have that as an option again

[strange bane]

I have faith that one day I will get that rare cowboy drip

Does that actually effect the chances through dark tribute? Will have to start collecting lol

[noble scarab]

For DT rolls it has to roll a chance to get a hunter then roll on the hunter table

[strange bane]

Thank you choom

So it does effect it alrighty

[noble scarab]

The hunter roll is rare enough, probably a 1-2% chance then I’d assume every hunter chance is an even split from there

I think someone did the math on Reddit once but that was awhile ago so it might’ve changed

[strange bane]

Maybe I can just get them on sales as they change out. I appreciate it man

I miss the black market lol ;-;

[noble scarab]

Yea wait for sales or work on prestige

[strange bane]

Absolutely. Am around prestige 64 rn

[noble scarab]

Awesome

[strange bane]

Yee haw

Close to Mr.Victor

[spiral mica]

Honestly you've got a few contenders so that is up for debate.

[gilded umbra]

Marian Lee? Tonya Wegman?

[earnest jungle]

Question for peeps: do you think a Hunt x FNAF crossover would be an interesting idea for a fanfic or would it be cringe and reddit?

[granite shard]

There’s a kpop x hunt crossover fic on ao3

So I think that means you’re free to be cringe and free

[real cedar]

Tonally it sounds cringe, kid's pop horror x southern gothic but that's what fanfics do.

[granite shard]

There’s not really a big fic community for hunt so really it just means that you have a lot of freedom to write what you want to see

[noble scarab]

I agree with Rai

https://tenor.com/view/go-off-sis-reactsbyash-phone-scrolling-go-off-gif-17639930

[orchid tangle]

yeah but did the singer hunt crossover fanfic come out first or the official singer hunt crossover

[earnest jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-meme-scooby-doo-shaggy-rogers-are-you-challenging-me-gif-26563581

[earnest jungle]

Fuck it it's happening

I have offically lost all control over my life

[ebon panther]

This is what everybody wanted. Everybody else was too embarrassed to say anything

[earnest jungle]

Madness is the gift that has been given unto me and I will share it with you all!

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/bloordborne-frenzy-psychic-damage-gif-27688759

[limpid bobcat]

didn't think we'd get the old event characters acknowledged

[granite shard]

yeah kevin has a charm too

makes me wonder if they have plans for a return to the moon trilogy stuff

[limpid bobcat]

honestly as much as some moments in that trillogy seemed straight out of a thumblr fanfic, I still liked it. I remember how they set up kevin as someone who (iirc) asked hunters around the world to help with corruption, and we haven't heard of him ever since

[granite shard]

I think the big thing with the trilogy is that a lot of it was meant to be in the style of pulpy dime novels so I think it makes sense why some things were like that

it was a good stepping stone for the tides trilogy that I think ended up being more successful on a story delivery level with the more grounded letters/journal style

[limpid bobcat]

tbf if there's something that moon trillogy did right is that each individual event had a bigger identity that the tides had. Tide of shadows is still memorable but corruption and desolation are extremely forgettable. I get that they're a trilogy but the latter 2 feel like an extension of shadows rather than it's own thing

[granite shard]

see I actually feel the opposite abt the tides trilogy-- the way corruption and desolation really worked as a duo I stuck out in a really positive way for me

like it felt like shadows exists as its own thing and then corruption and desolation exist to tell a bigger story which I appreciated

[limpid bobcat]

honestly maybe I'm biased and put my in-game gripes onto lore because at the time corruption and desolation felt bad to slog through

don't get me wrong the return of inferno and ash bloom were cool and all

but that era of hunt feels like a blur to me

[granite shard]

I mean part of it is I like sofia and so corruption stood out as getting her PoV and that being awesome but also like

to me I feel like we got some really great character moments and corruption also made chary a lot more interesting

like I was always positive about him but his chapters were a really fun addition and worked super well. I think the only real gripes I have abt the corruption/desolation stuff was just the sheer amount of demented pact stuff

[spiral mica]

May chaos take the world?

[visual finch]

i hope so

[granite shard]

from the new reddit post

with all of the stuff abt the moon trilogy

maybe we'll get new looks for kevin/mary/viper?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/1lqrvti/developer_insight_returning_items_to_the_bayou/

(the post)

the viper getting their fifth outfit lol

this is pog as hell tho

[neat juniper]

Undefeated champ of many faces

[real cedar]

When they first mentioned it in the survey I was kinda expecting all the skins to come back rather than just piecemeal but I guess I see the thought behind bundling them and dropping them now and again

[real dove]

Some of the GOTw skins are already there, i saw them the other day while looking for something esle

[granite shard]

oh really?

huh neat

[real cedar]

Those are the ones that share a theme with the battlepass skins but were just sold for BBs, the Welder's 1865 Carbine and Bombito

[real dove]

Ahhhh

[gilded umbra]

Interesting 🤔

[brazen root]

PLEASE i want kevin

[real cedar]

So I guess in the coming months we'll probably get a Gold Bundle (Gold Reliable Pennyshot, Gilded Maul Railroad Hammer, The Motherlode Centennial), a Weapons of the Wild 2 Bundle (Salted Earth Dynamite Bundle, Forest Sting Scottfield Precision, and Trailstalker Nitro), and then maybe a Scorched Earth Charm Bundle for the 4 charms in the BP.

[gilded umbra]

The controversy on Reddit is some players want the ability to obtain Mythic Hunters like Plague Doctor, while others want them to remain unavailable. It’s a paradox because some players missed out on them but to other players they are an achievement for those who obtained them. I think the solution is to create new Mythic Hunters obtainable only through strict challenges, like before.

[placid sundial]

what lore weapons does the pale judge use?

[real cedar]

Auto 5 No Clemency, Officer Grim Inquest, Knuckle Knife Gordian Cutter, and Throwing Spear Death Sentence

[placid sundial]

didnt think grim inquest, thanks

[real cedar]

It's not mentioned in the text but the style is the same and it makes sense he'd be the one interrogating/executing Mint Parish after they went crazy from The Fool's tonic

[spiral mica]

I can see both sides of the argument, and it's honestly a tough decision. Allow newer players to obtain older things? Or maintain a sense of rarity so some players can feel that sense of achievement?

Like, a lot of people comment on the Scaled Ward whom I play a lot, and a pretty substantial portion of those people that comment don't even recognize him from a quest line, and then you have players who don't even know what a quest line is. I wish more players could've obtained him, but a the same time I'm glad I was one of the few that did.

[gilded umbra]

That’s exactly how I feel. I encountered one of the Mythic Hunters from Light The Shadow recently and I was so impressed I had to say it in VOIP. And then they did the same because I was using Butcher’s Cleaver. That layer of mysticism and rarity is cool.

[spiral mica]

For sure. It's always cool having those interactions with other players. Especially when they actually recognize the skins and events they came from. Bonus points if they also know the lore.

[mint wind]

I still think it’d be cool if the mythic skins were only abailable during events, matching the period they were first showcased.

[brazen root]

I think the best tradeoff here would be to introduce almost identical but visually distinct versions of the old mythics so players that never had a chance to obtain the old ones can get very similar skins and enjoy the aesthetic, while players who managed to acquire the original skin still have something unique to show off that can be visually identified by others too

Something as simple as a recolor of the outfit could work, or if that's too low effort, a redesign of the hunter giving them some new appearance that's still looks like the old one

[mint wind]

Lil question : do we have infos on Whilton, or similar name ? The company behind the bear traps AND the bomblance/launcher.

[quartz quail]

Bonjour

[tired spear]

hmmmmm

[cloud ravine]

Hey what’s the lore on the event kinda don’t understand it

[noble scarab]

tldr: former snake oil salesman gets turned into the jonkler and chased by a refernce to a book

less tldr: Dr Redmartin invented a "miracle" cure meant to stop the spread of the infection, but it turned people mad. He was found out by the barkeep from Desalle, then people formed a mob and mutilated him into having a permenant smile. He went a bit crazy and kept doing his thing, resulting in him getting brought before the pale judge, the judge spared him, then he kept on so now the judge is chasing him again

[pearl folio]

Don't just stand there, if you don't straighten that I'm gonna lose my mind

[spiral mica]

See my issue with this would be how some players are very observant and will notice the minor changes, so you'll have that demographic of people who will still ask for the earlier and unobtainable version of the skin. Plus, they've already given us skins that aren't mythic that resemble mythic skins, and in some other cases like Scaled Ward and The Reptilian they gave us a mythic version of an otherwise non-mythic skin.

Plague doctor skin being the most sought after skin, and then having skins like Corvid and Bile which do resemble the original skin, and even have related lore, but obviously aren't the same Plague doctor skin.

[noble scarab]

I think they should just let you pay to redo the old Bps. Give the people with the OG skin a new rarity border and maybe some recognition in the animation death screen or something

[sturdy cliff]

is there any explanation for what a bounty token is, exactly?

[real cedar]

There's some scarce mentions of what it is. Best I can remember without pointing to exactly which story it came from is that it's a unique physical piece of the Target's body that's left behind after the banishing process. Each Target has their own piece, and it seems like they're carried in small vials on the Hunter's bandoliers, seen mostly on Tier 1-3s.

The tokens are sold to rich benefactors that hoard them in barrels and use them for various occult experiments and even bizarre summoning parties.

[sturdy cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/paulie-walnuts-paulie-sopranos-sopranos-satanic-black-magic-sick-shit-gif-7199567294399166309

[noble scarab]

I think they mention someone maybe chary flipping a token across their knuckles like a coin

Could be misremembering

[sturdy cliff]

that makes sense, it's just not clear at first glance because of the whole body burning up thing

[ember halo]

What do we think Post Malone is doing during The Fools Judgment?

[real cedar]

Walking, probably

Takes a lot of traveling to keep up with a goofy circus that can teleport through the land of the dead

[ebon panther]

Plot twist... post malone is gonna be back to help the judge finish off the fool

Or he's gonna try to talk the judge into granting the fool mercy and then the fool is gonna kill giggles

[strange bane]

I hope the next event starts with wrapping up what happens this event if they have a story , similar to past events using the first story chapter to touch on/close out previous events for the trilogies

Would be dope seeing the outcome of Doc Red and the Judge’s showdown

The Ballad of Doc Redmartin lol

[strange bane]

Good afternoon/evening hunters

May your aim be true and your lore be truer

[steel plaza]

What/Who is the Ochenkov´s Widow?

[real cedar]

Ochenkov's Widow is a mythic tier hunter from the Devil's Moon event, December 2022. She became a Frankenstein's monster kind of creature after Mr. Chary - the villain of the Moon trilogy - experimented on her.

[strange bane]

Possibly one of the most tragic playable characters

[granite shard]

She went to chary initially in hopes of finding a cure for her dying husband

[strange bane]

Especially with the added context from the Reason to Return charm

[granite shard]

And when she was (one of?) the first to successfully survive his little torture circle he asked her to bring what was most precious to her

And it was her husband’s heart and she became basically a broken shell that he made into a monster

[steel plaza]

I wish I was playing Hunt back the, or that they would bring more lore now

I have to read all the chapters from previous events that are on the website

[real cedar]

Check out the pinned messages in this channel for a compendium that has all the lore in it, or the Hunt Showdown wiki gg site's lore section. The official Hunt lore archive doesn't have the moon trilogy on it.

[gilded umbra]

They could bring back events like Devil’s Moon by making a sequel or a new trilogy based on and inspired by past events.

[fickle sluice]

I'd prefer if they just release the lore in a pretty way. I don't want reused content.

[quaint pawn]

there is one line that kind of stood out to me in let us prey as there's no tarot aspect in it and no real connection to existing lore (afaik) "the butcher and the statesman, priest prepares the tomb" so is this hinting at something we already know? Or could this be hinting at The Statesmans death in the near future? I'd like to hear y'alls thoughts and/or theories :)

[fickle sluice]

I mean, the first two lines are literally titles for the current events. Might well be a teaser, tarot and all that. Orchard of the hanged man would fit the naming scheme. "Butcher and the statesman" could be a hint to a conflict between the benefactors and the demented?

[real dove]

Oooo

Orchard of the hanged man

With a slightly darker event poi with bodies?

👀

[noble scarab]

It would make for a very plant themed year if so

[granite shard]

hits the tarot theme tho

[real dove]

Ja

And if we get another poi, would make sense

[strange bane]

Good afternoon lore hunters, may your enemies aim falter

[granite shard]

🫡

[brazen root]

Would love some more benefactor lore

[charred anchor]

Is there anyone who understands game settings?

[real dove]

For lore?

[real cedar]

Interesting thing I found: this well in Lower DeSalle has a grunt trapped in it. You can hear it gurgle and splash around a bit

[charred anchor]

yes pls

[real dove]

What are you having issues with? What settings? This is the lore channel, we don't have anything about in game settings here 😅

[charred anchor]

Sorry, when I looked at the translation, I understood that it was a different problem channel.

[spiral mica]

Aren't there two wells in Lower DeSalle?

[charred anchor]

Can I write to you privately?

[real dove]

Sure! Or DM ModMail

[earnest jungle]

Hey has anyone here heard of Dead West?

It’s a Weird-West Horror Audio Drama

It follows a Sin-Eater named Conrad a sort of Exprcost/Paranormal Investigator in the Late 19th Century American West

The show covers similar themes as Hunt Showdown though with a much larger focus on the injustices of life in the period: Conrad is literally and metaphorically haunted by the sins of his abusive, racist, homophobic, misogynistic father whose horrific experiments would have given Charry and Huff a run for their money

[fickle sluice]

To me that's a walking dead easter egg

[quaint pawn]

i feel like this is the right place to ask: does any of you know if this piano song has a complete version and if so, what's the name of it?

I think it sounds really really good (you can see me being weirdly drawn to it in the video, like a moth to a flame xd)

[mint wind]

It's a take on End Will Come, it used to be an ost for match loading.

[fickle sluice]

Damn beat me to it

[quaint pawn]

thx a lot!

I love hunts songs but the original version of End Will Come kind of takes away the best part of the piano version for me

only has the banging progression i love about it as a faint violin sound

[brazen root]

Know exactly what you mean, this part on the piano sounds awesome

(it also reminds me of a song on the far cry 5 soundtrack)

[real dove]

The map song?

Love that one if so

[brazen root]

One of the two, yeah, hah

[brazen root]

Despite this, end will come is still an absolute banger of a song though, one of the best

[near frigate]

Is it known who shot the revenant?

[granite shard]

Nope

[spiral mica]

Is that trailer even canon?

It depicts Spirited walking off with Revenant's uppercut after he died, and then at the end of the trailer it depicts him seemingly giving it back once Revenant came back.

[granite shard]

I’d say trailers are more often than not not canon

[spiral mica]

True, but it also shows Redshirt making the deal with the deed to some land, and Carter and Spirited having a good time which would be canon stuff that happened, right?

[solemn pollen]

So, I don't know a thing about Hunt lore. Who can give me the long rundown.

[real cedar]

The LONGEST rundown can be found in the compendium in the pinned messages of this channel, it's got literally everything.
The shorter, long rundown is that an otherworldly entity called The Sculptor has infected an area of the Louisiana bayou in 1894ish (and then later Colorado in 1896) and that infection/corruption turns people into grunts and armoreds. Some monsters like the immolator, hive, meathead, brute, and boss targets however aren't just random people turned, but instead specific people or creatures who've had their souls basically captured and are perpetually copied and brought back by the Sculptor within the incursion zone.
The Hunters that go into these incursions used to be backed by the American Hunter's Association -a centuries old secret society of paranormal hunters - and were paid money to kill the monsters and collect their bounty tokens. These people are vagrants, criminals, psychos, and a few valiant (delusional) people willing to fight monsters for coin, recruited by the AHA and others because they couldn't contain the huge incursion through normal means.
There's only ever one boss active at a time, so these Hunters began killing each other over who gets the spoils, thus we have how the game is in each match. The AHA basically collapsed in the storyline and now Hunters are more freelance but the bounties are still paid by mysterious Benefactors.

[solemn pollen]

If I asked a few questions about the world would there be answers? Not that it matters, as it is a fictional world but I sort of love seeing how the world reacts to this sort of thing. Say for instance, is this widespread knowledge (meaning the infection) and has the government got any idea about it/are involved?

[real cedar]

Yeah, ask away and people will be around to answer now and then. The paranormal is kept a secret by the AHA seemingly on threat of death by one or two lines, and the government might know as some higher up powerful people seem to be involved with the benefactors but they keep out of it, the governor of Louisiana dismissed the whole infection thing as the idle talk of the poor.

[glass slate]

Am I wrong or did crytek change the backstories for certain hunters after 2.4? Specifically all the upgradeable hunters and also Justin pierce, Marian lee, and Tonya Wegman. I feel like I'm going crazy right now because i thought Justin Pierce was a cop but apparently he's a writer.

[rain orbit]

In the original design the players could choose a dark power, like teleportation or walking through walls. I don't remember what the justification was, I think it might've just been a side-effect of their work.

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I think most of them were changed/rewritten to better fit into the setting.

[spiral mica]

Some of those ideas still made their way into the finished product. Teleportation for example came in the form of the Shadow leap trait.

[glass slate]

Thanks I thought I was going crazy

[untold thunder]

I was wondering, might this be a mistake? this charm says it belongs to the Prescient but I feel like this is more what appears on Luz Mala's gun

[granite shard]

Luz mala’s gun actually used to be the prescient’s!

It was confirmed awhile back

[rugged harbor]

That’s actually really cool

[granite shard]

Agreed

[rugged harbor]

I dig that, seeing a weapon trading hands and having a story around it is really cool I wish they did more of that

[untold thunder]

ohh awesomeee :3 i guess maybe thats sort of a reference to that?? because it sooo looks like it belongs on that gun, more than prescient's ones

[strange bane]

How are y’all doing?

[manic lichen]

Been cooking up something, first draft is done.

[strange bane]

Ell yeah

[brazen root]

The charm also contains the symbol she wears as a necklace

[untold thunder]

ohh my god yeah that actually makes sense

[wooden ledge]

Oh holy lore collectors and knowledge keepers. I ask for guidance and help. Is there Hunter that is based off Doc Holliday? If so, is it Sheriff Hardin or the Fool?

[real cedar]

None appear to be directly inspired by him in the same way as Carter is literally Buffalo Bill and Desert Rose is literally Annie Oakley - Sheriff Hardin's mustache could be an inspiration - but Silver Spur has a similar backstory of a gunfighter (bounty hunter in SS' case) who ended up getting tuberculosis and heading to Colorado.

[mint wind]

btw

[real cedar]

There's a poster like that in the eastern side of the main building in Healing-Waters as well.
The irony in the blacked out face and "eating from his hand"

[fickle marsh]

where can I learn about whole hunt lore?

[short patio]

The kid ?

[granite shard]

The kid’s less of a one to one like Carter and desert rose. Still deffo more of a reference than other hunters tho

[wooden ledge]

Thank you! I knew I could count on y’all. I appreciate the knowledge. I need to get back into learning the lore again. It’s one of my favorite things about the game ❤️

[topaz mirage]

I have a theory

[mint wind]

Qwestion : do we know if there's a name for the music in the Opera Phantom animation ?

[snow vapor]

Shazam it

[real cedar]

What's the Opera Phantom animation?

[mint wind]

Uuuh

Rachta skin's music when he performs.

[real cedar]

Ohh like the intro animation all hunters have?

[mint wind]

Yep.

[real cedar]

Hmm, chances are it's not any known song, just a few notes to go alongside the dramatic moves

[mystic flax]

how does post malone contribute to the lore

[real cedar]

Sadly more than zero.
His circus trained the twin bear cubs that got corrupted and became the Ursa Mortis monster, which is theorizied to have some connection with the Brute. No proof of that, but the theory is there so the connection is too.

[fickle sluice]

This is all so annoying and entirely unnecessary

[noble scarab]

The event survey mentions the possibility of re-adding lore to the in game menus

[left summit]

I do hope they re-add them it would be nice instead of going to another site to read them.

One thing is i'm curious if they are going to expand on more foreign hunter cause please correct me if im wrong the new years hunter came from a Taoist sect while while sovereign and their partner came from the Chinese version of AHA its been awhile since i brushed up on my lore.

[granite shard]

I’d love to see expansion on that stuff

[limpid bobcat]

every time they ask us if we want something they add it

[granite shard]

It’s actually a shame that the video made for her didn’t get released on international platforms

[limpid bobcat]

like with asking about unique AI and then adding ursa

[granite shard]

There was an awesome backstory video on zhuge liu on bilibili with English subtitles that just. Never got released on YouTube iirc

[limpid bobcat]

the social media teams miscommunication strikes again

[left summit]

I didn't know that does it expand on more where she came from by any chance?

[granite shard]

honestly I think that it was probably just made for the CN release

[granite shard]

it does! let me find the video on bilibili and get a recording of it

[left summit]

Thank you very much.

[left summit]

This has added much needed context for me on the mask and other things.

[granite shard]

it 100000% should have been released on youtube

also I like the call back to kevin's letters

[left summit]

But now im curious to know if what corrupted her is something like the stone from PMMC since there seems to be multiple stones.

[granite shard]

nah I doubt it was a stone or anything I think she was just cursed a snake spirit or something

[left summit]

True i could be overthinking it adding connections where there are none.

[granite shard]

honestly I think it's just like

best to toss out the post malone stuff

that was all done to try and justify why it wasn't weird and out of place for post malone to be in the bayou so they just kinda desperately threw things at the wall that vaguely lined up with other stuff we had seen in the past (land of the dead, weird magic rocks)

[left summit]

Alright that does make sense.
I do hope from now on they keep things within the lore which they kind of been doing i just hope they explore IMO more of the outside stuff. just because they could add more stuff from other place and it would make sense. Plus it would be cool to see some of their thoughts on creatures that aren't native to the bayou but maybe that sounds dumb since its not native to the area .

[mint wind]

The Heliostone they brought up has yet to return, and I doubt people would be very willing to go through such storyline anyway.

It's yet another story about a weird rock, and it's heavily linked to the Circus anyway...

[granite shard]

I think they wrapped up the heliostone by saying it's just snake oil

in the desert rose story

[left summit]

the Helios stone is in the fools cure all tonic bam connection "This was a bad try at a joke"

But i do hope we get more Chinese zodiac hunter who come from the same Taoist sect kind of like elite hunters.

[granite shard]

it would be cool, I love cultivation stories and there's a lot that could be explored there

[left summit]

Now correct me if i'm wrong the AHA has fallen correct or am i misremembering something which is likely the case.

[granite shard]

yeah it's fallen

it was fracturing for quite some time, but finch's death in tide of corruption fully ended it

[left summit]

Ok just wanted to make sure i was properly remembering it.

[granite shard]

🫡

[brazen root]

The AHA still lives on in my heart

[noble scarab]

The western branch might still be kicking

If it’s still canon

[left summit]

Of the AHA? from what i know it's just scattered hunters here and their i believe.

[real cedar]

The website's lore summaries for the event does make it seem more concrete that the AHA is defunct.
Though it does re-establish itself somewhere down the line

[left summit]

I could see the pale judge remaking the AHA to bring back order but that's far fetch even for me.

[left summit]

If its not the pale judge could the p100 hunter be the new leader candidate?

[real cedar]

John Victor is more like a top agent rather than a leader type. We know he survives the whole ordeal but he doesn't look back on it with any hint that he recreated the AHA.

[left summit]

ok.

[spiral mica]

It's okay the Government and these other benefactors are still paying out our bounties.

[analog pendant]

Maybe the AHA was the real friends we made along the way?

[real cedar]

generally yeah that's how associations are made

[sinful bloom]

I just want the cult to come back

[left summit]

? The one that the butcher cosplayer used to lead?

[real dove]

love to see some night hunters return

[upbeat kiln]

Does anyone remember the name for the trailer where a group of hunters walk into an office and get a contract (or something like that) from Mr. Chary?

[left summit]

Traitors Moon is the only one I can recall off of the top of my head.

https://youtu.be/nF7AncUQGwo?si=Y6OFDi9wJShiCXkY

[granite shard]

maybe something with the winter 2021 event too since that's when his contracts were introduced

[left summit]

https://youtu.be/yWbMtCLNoxQ?si=lKifzKthj--fRIyk

[upbeat kiln]

That was the one. Omg thank you

I was going nuts

[left summit]

No problem glad I was able to help take care.

[left summit]

Rai do we have a list of which hunters are dead and alive? and by dead i mean actual dead not drowned.

[real cedar]

Not really, cause it happens so rarely and most of the time it's really unclear whether they're dead dead or just downed and coincidentally not appearing in the narrative anymore.
The stories to look at are Tide of Shadows towards the end where Gar might've killed The Hornback and some others, the last chapter of Tide of Corruption where the Infernal pact got shot up by the Death Pact, and Tide of Desolation where The Cowl was last seen going into the Land of the Dead, and Captain Laffite burns his soul combining with The Delphine. As far as confirmed deaths go, Laffite is one of the only 100% gone for sure.

[left summit]

Thank you very much.

[real cedar]

🤔 The Hornback probably isn't dead either cause she was part of the Drowned Pact in Tide of Desolation

Though they never say she's a water zombie like the others

[granite shard]

She also might have killed the skinned

Since he got a bomb lance through the lung