lore-discussion

[mint wind]

She should be available even after the end of the event. Normally she follows the trend of hunters like the ones in BP, but for BB, even after.

[real cedar]

We don't know. There was no indication that Thorn Wreath and the Christmas skins would disappear after the event, but they did.
I don't think Servant of the Void should, but since her bundle has skins related to the Welders, who knows.

[mint wind]

Well the trapper skins are still there, same for the pinheads.

[granite shard]

trappers are DLC and not event hunters

I think the servant of the void will stick around

[mint wind]

Not these ones.

[granite shard]

but it would be nice to have clarification

[noble scarab]

I can see thorn wreath being a holiday skin, so she’ll come back at Christmas

The Chinese new year lady didn’t stick around

But may come back I guess next new year

[granite shard]

and they've not 100% said she's coming back next year. they said she could come back in future chinese new year events

[supple smelt]

We also had other skins that had the same aesthetic as event ones stick around

The day of the dead type stuff came out for Halloween but didn’t disappear

[real cedar]

The day of the dead stuff was pre-2.0, the only BB stuff that came out with 2.1 was the Peacemaker, Lion's Claw, some charms, Bloody Redx2 and Night mother

[granite shard]

is the knife thrower still available?

and I guess the clown girl

[real cedar]

Yeah, Spinning Blade was just before the event and Giggles and her bat are still around

[granite shard]

okay if giggles is still around then I feel like SotV should stick around

still, some clarification would be nice

[real cedar]

Yeah, I think she'll stick around but at the same time it's not 100% guaranteed

[granite shard]

I'll see if I can get confirmation on if she's sticking around or not

[supple smelt]

yeah I feel like Christmas skins are the only ones that come and go

[granite shard]

like I think it's holiday based hunters will come around during their respective holidays, but again actual written confirmation would be nice

[supple smelt]

maybe Chinese new year one from now on

[mint wind]

Although the Coal Bearer...

[granite shard]

is he still available to buy rn?

I own him so I can't check haha

[mint wind]

He is.

[noble scarab]

Crytek is nothing if inconsistent

[upbeat kiln]

How dare you

[supple smelt]

What do you mean? He’s a coal bearer I don’t know what else you could possibly see him as

he has to work year round

[mint wind]

He doing Krampus work wearing Klaus outfit (that movie is excellent).

[spiral mica]

Where does that leave Devil's advocate then?

Also do you think the holiday exclusive hunters ever recognize each other's motif when they encounter each other out in the hunt?

Like Coal Bearer seeing Devil's advocate and being like "no flipping way this dude is dressed like my evil brother."

Or Thorn Wreath encountering Perchta and they have a face-off on who the best Christmas witch is?

[real dove]

Well

Perchta meeting Perchta doing spiderman meme

[dim prism]

Did anyone find the evil dead cabin in game ? 🤠I saw it and had a fan girl moment love this game

[brittle patrol]

i appreciate easter eggs like that. im not very familiar with the franchise though. What does it look like?

(I have seen the dead Bob Ross)

[spiral mica]

It's a small shack painted white with a front porch. It's south of Blanchett and north of Cypress. If you go around to the back you'll find an even smaller shed with the chalk outline of a chainsaw on the wall.

Inside the house itself there's a trapdoor that is chained up with the corpses of grunts that are arranged in such a way that makes it look like they're trying to break out.

[brittle patrol]

that's a wicked situation! I'll take a look next time!

[spiral mica]

There's stuff like that everywhere in the game. There's a barn just north of Lawson station on Lawson delta that pays homage to the popular film "Back to the Future." It's got the diorama of the train station, and even the DeLorean time machine underneath a tarp.

Just Northwest near the extract at Port there's a Django unchained easter egg.

[brittle patrol]

i remember seeing human bodies in the game that don't look decomposed and look as if they are peacefully sleeping. Is there some kind of lore explanation for those?

I'm curious for the Django one!

[spiral mica]

On the DeSalle map there is Shrek's swamp shack southwest of Fort Bolden.

[tulip kindle]

There's a Titanic reference too the whole never let go scene
Don't remember where tho

[spiral mica]

There's actually two Titanic references in hunt. One is on Stillwater in a location that I've forgotten, and another is on Lawson delta Northwest of Goddard docks.

[warped shale]

Wait fr fr??

so in that one trailer with the kid and the researcher they’re meant to be doc and Marty

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I think it's a subtle reference or nod to Doc and Marty.

[warped shale]

I didn’t know the model train was an actual thing in game

I thought it was just a prop in the cinematic for the transition

[zealous palm]

@brittle patrol

[brittle patrol]

thanks for showing! That´s an ominous looking cabin

[green pollen]

This ain’t the one from cabin Feaver, is it?

[zealous palm]

They may have used it or had one like it as an Easter Egg

[gilded umbra]

What if lore to specific stories could be added to these envelopes? ✉️

[gilded umbra]

@inland mirage You and The Grinch Who Stole Christmas are cousins.

[spiral mica]

Slender and the eight paragraphs of Hunt lore?

Jokes aside I think more interactive elements in the game would be really cool to see.

I miss the serpent baskets from serpents moon and the gator traps during the scaled questlines.

[orchid tangle]

Imma be honest

looking for gator traps had to be the most annoying questline ever

[granite shard]

I thought that was fine, it was a really smart way to introduce the player base to looking for rotjaw clues

Like if you think back on the placement of them and whatnot, they were all generally within the area where rotjaw clues spawn so they got players going to areas around the water and checking darksight

[lucid marten]

Is there any hunter that's confirmed dead lore wise apart from The rat and The kid? i vaguely remember a line about Perchta hunting Lonely howl but not much else

[granite shard]

The butcher’s cleaver should be dead but somehow popped up alive

It’s not really clear where they were going w that bc after that happened the lore was killed

The skinned is probably dead, captain lafitte is double dead

The gar is seemingly dead

Lonely howl’s alive so it seems he was able to make up with his parents so they/perchta didn’t have to kill him

[orchid tangle]

isn't black coat dead

[granite shard]

No

[real cedar]

Nah, Hayden Collins is just a big fat liar

[orchid tangle]

right

[granite shard]

See what’s said every time bad as they seem is asked about lol

[orchid tangle]

when lore was cooler and realistic

[granite shard]

I wouldn’t say that’s it

[real cedar]

Alternatively, The Black Coat's real name isn't William Durant, and he instead took that identity from the real (dead) Durant using The Skinflint's book of names

[lucid marten]

Oh right makes sense why i didint read much about it later, also to clarify i mean dead as in initially released as alive and normal not an already revived corpse right off the bat

[orchid tangle]

I like fake stuff being spiced in, as long as you can confirm it's fake
that fits for 1800s tales

[granite shard]

It’s more of they were able to utilize the established unreliability of a dude exaggerating stories to utilize a character who they otherwise wrote off early on and ended up being decently popular w fans

Like I have a friend who rly didn’t like bats bc of it killing off the blackcoat and that being his favorite character so him being alive worked for him

[orchid tangle]

they should do it again with infernal pact being killed off in a single sentence...

[granite shard]

I mean I don’t think the entire infernal pact is dead

They didn’t directly specify who died so like

Any of them could be up

[orchid tangle]

I mean sure but all we know is they were gunned down and (I believe) none of them have shown back up yet. and who knows what'll happen now since lore is in a fucky spot

[toxic yew]

Evil dead 👌

[clear glacier]

hi i forgot but lynch is confirmed kia in the land of the dead right

[real dove]

Lynch is Mia

She is def not kia

[acoustic whale]

mia and kai are enemies?

[mint wind]

Missing In Action
Killed In Action

[noble scarab]

We can assume she’s somewhere vaguely near the gulch or was at one point, however the LoTD maps out to the living world

That was the intention before the great lore deletion of ‘24

[vivid thunder]

Have a random lore question I’m hoping others can help me with. Do we know what happens to the bounties during banishing? Are they being sent back the world of the sculpture? Are they being destroyed?

[upbeat kiln]

In the old lore, their souls were literally being banished to hell - though I don't know if that has changed since 😄

[noble scarab]

They pretty much get send back to the sculptor

Which is what Hazmat said^

The physical bodies are distilled down via the banishment to some form of token that contains a bit of their power and essence and that’s what’s traded in for cash

[vivid thunder]

Interesting working on a story for a possible event suggestion and that part was key for it to work. Trying to make sure what I’m writing doesn’t conflict with established story

[noble scarab]

The story is hardly established, feel free to take what works for you and run with it

They even say in the newly online lore that it’s all likely to be lies and made up anyway

[vivid thunder]

Fair point but still don’t wanna stray too far from established content.

[noble scarab]

I’m not personally a fan of the whole everyone in the lore is a canonical unreliable narrator thing but whatever works for crytek

[granite shard]

I mean I think that's capitalizing on the unique way of presenting the lore through letters/journals/etc -- I don't think they're saying that nothing is true but just like

part of the interest is in sorting out what is coming from the bias of the author

[vivid thunder]

Indeed could also be see then the hunters association themselves is hiding or controlling information.

[granite shard]

they're all going to be unreliable narrators just by virtue of being people without the full context talking about what they know

[noble scarab]

I think that’s what they’re going for and I get it but I think their blanket statement over everything just kinda puts a damper on things

[granite shard]

But without that blanket statement you get people not understanding that maybe Hayden Collins could be making stuff up

Like people who really are interested in the lore are more likely to understand that’s what they’re going for, but if you’re just some dude reading something randomly you’re probably not gonna have that knowledge

So the blanket statement makes sure that the “this is all a variety of primary/secondary/fictionalized/etc sources gathered by a researcher” setup is more easily understood

They tried the subtle route in the past w researcher’s notes and that slipped past people so I think it makes sense that they’d just put it out there

[finite crescent]

Whos the most important in the lore and why is it redneck

[granite shard]

got official confirmation that servant of the void is staying after the event

[spiral mica]

Isn't Cardinal Rain and Fang Shearer the only two blood bond hunters that were released during an event that will never return? Or are there others that I'm missing?

[granite shard]

no

there's also the wayfarer

[supple smelt]

I figured it was but weird that they didn’t specify for the Christmas stuff lol

[granite shard]

yeah

I think it was safe to assume she'd stay but there was enough doubt after the christmas stuff that I thought it was worth getting official word on if she was staying or not

[supple smelt]

The puppet lady didn’t necessarily look very christmas-y

[spiral mica]

Oh I didn't know that. Light the Shadow was before my time, but I always assumed all those hunters were just part of the battlepass.

[granite shard]

the exile and third son were both free rewards whereas the wayfarer was a BB hunter

[supple smelt]

Wayfarer must be the rarest then no?

[granite shard]

Out of the BB hunters, probably

Though I’m not sure how many people bought fang shearer

I think I see wayfarer more than him or cardinal rain tbh

[noble scarab]

Fang shearer is kinda a meh design for me but I bought him none the less

[feral quail]

I'd would say the Viper final form is the rarest. Only 10% of the games player base got him and the player count was a lot smaller back then

[granite shard]

I think the plague doctor might still be rarer than them

Those were both massive grinds tho

[mint wind]

Fang Shearer was locked behind a rather pricey cost, and most people just took the regular BP (which, iirc, would lock you out of getting the Hunter).

Unless it was Cardinal Rain.

[granite shard]

that's cardinal rain. I think fang shearer was just a regular BB hunter

[mint wind]

Well if he was he'd still be here XD

[granite shard]

I mean he was able to be bought like a regular BB hunter

he was just in the store to buy, like how wayfarer was during light the shadow

[mint wind]

I don't really recall how it was done.

[orchid tangle]

fang shearer was just a bb hunter
cardinal was you had to buy the pass

[ember halo]

Fang shearer was a limited time BB hunter

I kinda thought Cardinal rain was too

Yeah, they both were

Drowned helmsman and gar were the BP hunters

[granite shard]

cardinal rain you got with the big BP bundle

[ember halo]

Also the 10$ pickle

[granite shard]

maybe you could buy her separately? but I believe she was only sold in that bundle

[ember halo]

You could but she was also available for just BB

[granite shard]

okay that must have been a later addition to the patch

bc originally she was just in that bundle

I bought the bundle so I never saw her in the shop lol

[ember halo]

Yeah same

Fang shearer may be one of the more rare Hunters

[granite shard]

yeah I don't know how many people actually bought him

I think more people bought wayfarer than fang shearer

[ember halo]

I'd be curious to see the ownership stats

[noble scarab]

The pickle is worth it for it just being a river pickle

[supple smelt]

I’d think plague doctor would be because it took forever to get him

But also fang shearer was earlier so idk

[granite shard]

fang shearer was later

more people use PD than FS but PD is also more of a known flex

idk I think generally wayfarer, cardinal rain, plague doctor, viper stage 4, and fang shearer would be within the bundle of least owned

[noble scarab]

Add bad hand and both union suit guys too if we’re counting them

Maybe less so bad hand because he’s now obtainable through twitch drops

[granite shard]

union suit is as well

[valid dirge]

Guys.. just wondering is it canon, and hear me out here: that the walls of the buildings in hunt are magically reinforced in order to prevent full-on destruction? Because nothing can break them down. And don’t give me that “strong wall” nonsense. I could probably punch through some of them IRL.

[earnest jungle]

There is a canonical explanation: it's that the game would run like shit if every surface in the game was realistically destructible.

[green pollen]

It’d be like so cool tho

[orchid tangle]

Game already runs terribly for most no reason to make it worse. Peoole would start bringing explosive every match to fuck with anyone in a building

[granite shard]

Plus game balance

Destructible environments would just add a whole other layer to things and they likely don’t want to mess around w that

[real dove]

We have, kinda, stuff already destructible. Doors, windows, etc. but yeah, I don't really want the whole building to be able to be razed

[valid dirge]

No yeah I know people dont want buildings to be razed to the ground. I don’t want that either…
I was just wondering if we got like a lore reason the small shed doesn’t explode from the big dynamite bundle I threw into it. And if we don’t got a lore reason I like mine.

Magic

🪄

[real dove]

Lol

The sculptor imbued all the buildings with resistance to explosives (but not the windows or doors)

[neat juniper]

Tbh, I think it's probably even canon
Not specifically resistance to explosives, but like just general.. Inability to change?

[granite shard]

Tbh I think the gameplay just isn’t canon here

I’d imagine that in the actual world of hunt shit gets destroyed

Since none of the matches we play are canon

[neat juniper]

So what, explosives just aren't a canon part of Hunter's loadouts?
... Actually it would make sense

Occasional frag and bomblance just wouldn't bring enough destruction to deconstruct buildings

And I don't remember any canon materials mentioning chugging a dynamite bundle around corners

[granite shard]

I’m talking about buildings not being destroyed by explosives specifically lol

[neat juniper]

Gameplay/lore division is hard for my brain 😔

[granite shard]

I’m assuming that in the actual world of hunt stuff would be impacted by explosives and whatnot but we don’t see it bc non-canon and game balance

Plus also development— destructible environments would be a huge undertaking

[neat juniper]

I'll bide my time for a cinematic of a dynamite bundle canonically exploding inside a wooden toilet and toilet remains unharmed

You'll all see

[granite shard]

Haha

[brazen root]

mfw all the hunters have died like 800k times each lmao

[neat juniper]

Multiverse
All canon
We know(I think) that lynch came from another universe

[real cedar]

We do?

[neat juniper]

I think

Lemme lie to people!

[spiral mica]

It's funny you mention that because I was at Silver Dollar City about a month ago, and I found a familiar name situated in one of the newspapers with info regarding a new attraction.

[neat juniper]

Canon

[spiral mica]

I think you might be right.

[supple smelt]

Which gun does this belong on most lore wise

Like who’s story would lead you to think they’d have a portrait of a woman on it

[real cedar]

The Black Coat's Widower

[polar thistle]

idr if I had asked before or not. Does anyone know of any creators that have the old event story sound clips up? I really miss them being included in the events. Wish they had done like an autoplay system :c

the oens from teh battle pass

[real cedar]

Most of em can be found just by searching on youtube - a few like Hazmat have even done readings of them - and everything from Tide of Shadows onwards was put up on the official site
https://www.huntshowdown.com/lore/tagged/events

[polar thistle]

ooh thanks.

wait

so they stopped putting them in game but still do them

D:

tbh i never thoguht to check the actual hunt website for it

[granite shard]

They don’t still do them unfortunately

[real cedar]

There hasn't been any event story since Scorched Earth so they don't exactly "still do them" but at least we do have an official archive of the old ones now

[granite shard]

There’s a chance for them to return in the future at least

[polar thistle]

Scorched earth is only like 3 events ago no?

is my unemployed timeline getting messed up already

like covid time messed up so much haha

[real cedar]

Though it is weird they chose not to add the Moon trilogy to the archive. Does that mean it's not canon or something? 🤔

[polar thistle]

thank you for answering my dumbass questions (: you guys great

[real cedar]

Ye it was three events ago, Garden, Circus, Harvest, and then Scorched Earth.

[granite shard]

It’d be weird for it to be considered non canon when the tides stuff builds off of it and the book of weapons has stuff that references it

No clue why they didn’t add it tho and I find that frustrating

Like ignoring that I like the moon trilogy, it’s still like… part of the event lore that people unlocked lol

[spiral mica]

I started playing right in the middle of the moon trilogy during Serpent's and I know there are probably people who didn't like the story or something, but I don't think that would be a good enough reason to potentially retcon the entire trilogy. Even if they do intend for it not to be Canon why should that stop it from being included amongst the other archived lore?

[real cedar]

They've done it once before, some of the Louisiana Case Files weren't uploaded when they got archived on the website, and they both had pieces of lore that would really change the lore, like multiple sculptors and dragons.

[granite shard]

but the stuff uploaded to the site still hinges on stuff from the moon trilogy

[real cedar]

Yeah that's the weird part in it not showing up. Though not too much really hinges on it, like 2-3 chapters across the whole trilogy are relevant going forward. Chary's introduction, Kevin's recruitment ad, and Finch declaring the Louisiana AHA is lost.

[granite shard]

the stuff with the moon is still part of it based on chary v moon in the land of the dead

[spiral mica]

I think they should just include it all Canon or not.

[tawny pine]

What is the lore of rotjaw?

[upbeat kiln]

Baby gator is by chance taken to spooky shadow dimension where it's raised by a little girl. Gator grows super big, and is force-fed an ancient relic by D*** Dastardly, before it is kidnapped back to our world, where it's horrendously lonely and in a continuous search for the little girl that raised her.

[tawny pine]

interesting

and the electrical harness it has?

[upbeat kiln]

built by a crazy sailor who heard the formerly mentioned ancient relic snack whisper the blueprints in his head

iirc

[tawny pine]

ok thx

[real dove]

wasnt she an egg that hatched?

do i recall her lore wrong

D:

[upbeat kiln]

No no you're absolutely right

An egg that got saturated with baby curly shadow gators

[real dove]

egg is baby gator

so not wrong

i was just worried

[supple smelt]

good for her

[granite shard]

lmao

[supple smelt]

someone got it

[granite shard]

got an actual chuckle out of me irl

[spiral mica]

I miss my owner...

[orchid tangle]

I'd be pissed all the time too if I was stripped away from the only person I know into some new land and three identical fuckface rednecks rush me with baseball bats

[spiral mica]

Yeah, and just imagine it too. Rotjaw was raised by a caring and loving little girl who loved her not-so-little friend dearly, and then Rotjaw is separated from her beloved owner, force fed an ancient artifact, and thrusted into a world that she is completely unaware of. She would be so scared and angry, and to add insult to injury there are groups of hunters trying to kill her.

Rotjaw's story is a tragedy.

[sage quiver]

whats up new to the lore who can fill me in

[oblique estuary]

whats the deal with wielders and witches, why are they in the same event? in a nutshell

[granite shard]

Nature vs industrialization

[spiral mica]

They're basically two opposing ideologies coming together to fight back against the corruption. It's a really cool idea, but beyond that there isn't anything like an event story or compendium entries to tell a grander story here.

[orchid tangle]

they're also teamed up with the servant of the void in one of the artworks
I know it's silly to think anything in the artwork is supposed to make canon sense but it does feel weird the brujas who are really only discussed as healers unless the person is unworthy is working with the person who wants everything to be chaotic or else she'll kill you

[polar thistle]

dragons huh

[polar thistle]

you know my dumbass didn't even think about that i was just like "i like welder"

[spiral mica]

Yes, and it's actually kind of cool ngl

But understandably non-Canon

[earnest jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sensible-chuckle-gif-3532650

[supple smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/danger-5-what-is-it-shooting-through-phone-gif-664813575616323712

[green pollen]

Fuck that gator tho I need my cash

[granite shard]

incheresting https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/1kg8r0u/better_look_at_the_message_on_the_hunt_showdown/

"my cure-all is finally perfected. behold miracles somethingsomethingsomething"

@real cedar have you seen this?

[cloud ravine]

Smalls I got a question

In hunting lore if I’m wrong the hunter that looks like the butcher was pretty messed up right?

[granite shard]

Yeah

[real cedar]

Oh shit. I always figured the voynich scribbles were just flavor. I'll try to take a look at it later

[granite shard]

hell yeah

nice that they're starting the teaser campaign so early on

I wonder if it'll be a short turnaround between events like it was between tide of corruption and desolation

since I think the literaly next day after that one ended we got the first drowned rat teaser

[real dove]

[real cedar]

I'm hoping its not a quick turnaround cause it means the next event would be filler like this one was. More time is needed for a real turnaround

[granite shard]

honestly I think it would make sense for it to be a quick turnaround since garden of the witch was a fairly low-effort event meaning they had time to cook this one up

[real dove]

Wouldnt call it low effort, more that they were focused on other elements

[real cedar]

On the design side maybe but mechanics wise I'd expect more focus on bugfixing still. They'd have enough skins for another one with the outsource studios chugging away but the gameplay side prob wouldn't be ready til August or so. They did mention less events this year and we've yet to see that happen

[real dove]

hype we're getting lil puzzles again

[granite shard]

low effort as in they didn't need to make a lot of stuff for the event

[real dove]

tru

we've had, 4? events per year?

spring summer fall winter

[granite shard]

three.5 I'd say

why did I start writing things out and then go numbers

my brain stopped working there apparently

[real dove]

mood

[granite shard]

anyway I'd say 3.5 bc usually we have a winter event that crosses into the start of the new year

[real dove]

true

[granite shard]

but they've been pretty solid with event trios, even if they're not thematic anymore

[real dove]

id call that winter tho

for the sake of making it easier

[granite shard]

but either way I think I could see us getting a summer event at least giving us a desalle return since that's one of the last big things we're waiting on

I'm not expecting like a ton of guns but I think I could see them doing something with a desalle return

winter event I could see the UI changes coming

[supple smelt]

I prefer it when they aren’t seasonal events and more focused on something that will be cool all year round

The halloween hunters especially don’t fit during any other month than October November lol

[granite shard]

by thematic I mean like tides/moon

[supple smelt]

ah yeah

[granite shard]

where all three events had an overarching connection on some level

[supple smelt]

Where’s there’s an arc of them

[granite shard]

yeah

[supple smelt]

yeah that was preferable but I’m guessing they think that having more diverse events will be more exciting for players maybe

[granite shard]

and got rid of the narrative

idk we'll see if that changes and we start seeing thematic events again since nicolette stewart is back at the helm. I think earliest we'd see anything would be winter tho

tho saying that, we could have at least a little something with this

we'll have to see bc it could be like harvest of ghosts/garden of the witch where it seemed like they could do something with a story and then did nothing at all lol

[supple smelt]

I wish they’d find a way to integrate the story properly into gameplay somehow if they ever did bring it back

[granite shard]

I don't think that's really possible. honestly every live service game atm is struggling big time with the narrative

[supple smelt]

that’s true

[granite shard]

also back to the teaser I think that the part of the text I'm struggling to read says something about side effects

I think that would make sense with the cure-all thing

[supple smelt]

okay wait we’re getting a doctor themed event!!! Bad hand writing + talk about a cure all

[real dove]

ooo

side effects looks right

[granite shard]

someone on reddit thinks it says desalle but I think that's them trying to insert what they want to see on it lmfao

despite side effects?

[real dove]

too long

[granite shard]

yeah

[supple smelt]

this is literally doctors handwriting

[real dove]

4 letter

[supple smelt]

Dose side effects?

[real dove]

ooooooo

makes sense

[granite shard]

yeah that would make sense

[supple smelt]

What’s the square next to it tho

[real dove]

" ?

[granite shard]

could be a list

Like this

[real dove]

looks more d than z

side

vs size

but yueah

[cloud ravine]

Oh I got a dumb question

Which boss has the most depressed lore

[granite shard]

that is a D lol

[real dove]

oof

got proper doc handwertiting

[granite shard]

lmao

meg handwriting reveal

[real cedar]

Scrapbeak for sure

[real dove]

which boss? yeah scrappy

[granite shard]

there's a reason I'm a programmer

[real dove]

scrappy and then prolly hellboy? and then rotjaw?

Butcher is taxidermy

assy is the researcher's hot boytoy

spider is depressing too

scrappy, hell, rottie, spider, assy, butcher

rottie may be worse than hell

since she is big sad

over torture

[granite shard]

I might put spider above scrapbeak

but the mass of bodies just makes me sad

[real dove]

yeah

i dont see her as as sad as scrappy

tho bro wasnt a gold star

assuming the souls within the corpse pile that is spider are all still there and fused then yeah

not nice

[granite shard]

but like even then, from the spider's mastery: "See, a Spider must be formed out of a number people who'd shared great and insurmountable suffering. The bayou was full of that."

even if the souls aren't there, the stuff that went into the spider becoming a spider

[real dove]

iirc one of her bits says that a hunter recognized the female face screaming in pain or somethig

ngl been a while sicne i looked at her lore

[granite shard]

yeah she was a kid

[cloud ravine]

Why scrapbeak?

I know he’s a solider

[granite shard]

https://www.huntshowdown.com/lore/tagged/monsters/scrapbeak

[cloud ravine]

Ouch

[acoustic whale]

how the hell are you guys reading this?

[granite shard]

did you see my handwriting earlier lmao

I have like a +10 buff to understanding illegible writing

[acoustic whale]

lmao

no way i could read that

[granite shard]

but also just context clues. it's talking about a cure-all, that's pretty clearly an i into either an l or a d, and then either an e or a c next to two tall letters

so side effects makes the most sense there

and then dose fits the length and general structure of the first word

but yeah the other words are 10000x more legible and that took some time to work out what it was saying

[spiral mica]

So I'm reading some of this and does that mean the lore is finally making a real comeback?

[granite shard]

no

it means they're doing a good marketing campaign

[acoustic whale]

so they don't want to tell us what the sculptor is

[spiral mica]

what is it exactly marketing though?

is it something like teasing the next event?

[granite shard]

probably

[spiral mica]

Interesting

[earnest jungle]

I like that they're bringing back ARGs and Voynich codes

[granite shard]

Tbf we don’t know if the voynich actually says anything here or if it’s like recent stuff

Hopefully it does

[earnest jungle]

Reterning to the teaser the first word is deffinetly "Dose" but I'm not sure what comes after.

[granite shard]

Dose side effects

[earnest jungle]

Makes sense context wise but i'm strugling to see effects in that final word

Cursive is my eternal enemy as a dyslexic

Dose Side Effects certainly makes more sense than (r/s/i)k af61o

[spiral mica]

I wonder if the phrase "Dose side effects" relates to the hunter injections.

Also, I forget, but does the hunter injection/inoculation have an actual name?

[brazen root]

my thought too

and idk, i've only seen it referred to as the inoculation or the serum

[granite shard]

I feel like this is something new

Maybe a scientist/doctor themed event?

[supple smelt]

si

although ngl we have the scientist role filled out quite a lot

[granite shard]

But not really mad scientist so I think there’s a potential

[spiral mica]

I feel like we have plenty of mad scientists and evil or crazy doctors. I'd really like a uniformed nurse or doctor hunter like the medkit grunts.

[granite shard]

Who would you qualify as a mad scientist/crazy doctor? I’m playing stadium rn in overwatch so maybe I’m forgetting someone obvious but I can’t think of one off the top of my head

[spiral mica]

The original plague doctor skin comes to mind. Didn't he experiment and help create Scrapbeak? I'll admit the "As the crow flies" event was before my time with this game, but I recall someone saying that was the lore for the plague doctor.

[brazen root]

There's this little bit in the sparks entry but who knows if they'd follow up on a thread like this now lmao

Nellie Crown. Diagnosis: acute Religious Mania. Badly marked from small pox. Claims an Angel is in her; then it is a snake. And who is to say that she is not possessed by Angels or Snakes? I have seen leeches the size of a human head burrow into a man's skull. Much more is possible than our medical textbooks would admit. Possibly a previous initiate. Have others reacted poorly to the serum? Observation required.

[granite shard]

Ah yeah the plague doctors are the closest but I feel like they’re so solidly plague doctor that they leave the room open for a more traditional mad scientist/fucked up doctor character

[brazen root]

Junkenstein, duh

[granite shard]

Haha

[spiral mica]

And although he isn't a hunter, Mr. Chary did experiments on people such as Mary Ochenkov.

[granite shard]

I can’t believe you’re forgetting my beloved evil geneticist Moira o’deorain

Yeah chary’s not a playable hunter tho

[spiral mica]

What about Mama Maye? She tortures people and isn't she also a botanist?

[brazen root]

oh yeah sorry, blackwatch buried most records on her, my bad

[granite shard]

Blackwatch my beloved

I will forever miss retribution, the mcreyes divorce event

She is not a mad scientist though lol

The corvids are the closest thing we have to a mad scientist

[brazen root]

the invasion missions were unironically top tier lore but its the last we'll ever get, rest in piss, dead lore

only hunt lore remains, and thats just barely

[granite shard]

I think they’re cooking something

I have faith

Plus I like the storyline they’re running w rn w the conspiracy and also emre

But that’s all unrelated to hunt and this round is abt to start

Time to terrorize this lobby as zarya 🫡

[spiral mica]

I know some people might say Bone doctor, but he doesn't really strike me as someone who would be evil or crazy. Just like the Bruja from this most previous event the Louisiana voodoo community just has their own way of fighting the corruption.

[brazen root]

If the side effects comment relates to inoculum, it could be about the old lynch inoculum, or potentially one or more of the "new" inoculums that were mentioned in gulch lore

[spiral mica]

I mean, sure maybe his methods are questionable, but someone like Bone doctor just seems like he's trying to help fight the Sculptor.

[brazen root]

my prediction: new mad scientist character fucks around with alternative new inoculums that have horrible side effects and uh.... it creates a rat boss

[spiral mica]

And going back to the Corvids is it ever really mentioned that they have any relation to OG plague doc and his works?

[brazen root]

He [preston] proposed a trade. Information for his life. Locations of more Bounty Token graveyards. Industry barons obsessed with the Sculptor. New Inoculations. Magics deeper than Dark Sight. “Old eyes" awakening in forgotten parts of the world.
The deal was made

[noble scarab]

He was their teacher I believe

[spiral mica]

I remember seeing a reddit post about first responder and medical practitioner representation in hunt. I think something like a Mary Edwards Walker hunter would be pretty cool to see.

I can't for the life of me find this reddit post though

It talked about stuff like the American Red Cross during the civil war and stuff too

[noble scarab]

I think there was concept art for a nurse hunter at one point

Either a nurse or a nun with a Red Cross on her

[spiral mica]

Yes, I remember seeing something like that at some point too, but I can't find anything about it anywhere.

There's a reddit post that talks about nurse grunts that carry and drop random syringe consumables, but as cool of an idea as that sounds that isn't really what I'm referring to here.

[noble scarab]

I’m sure smalls or rai has it saved somewhere

[spiral mica]

Who knows maybe I've just gaslit myself into thinking there was such a thing in the first place, but I still stand by my original statement about some kind of first responder and medical practitioner representation in hunt.

[real dove]

oh that would be neat

would love to see more variations on AU

AI

felt like the clowns were a cool step to that

esp with the throwing knives

[spiral mica]

I'm thinking since we've got stuff like Annie Oakley, Billy the Kid and Buffalo Bill that a Mary Edwards Walker themed skin would be possible.

[spiral mica]

Not sure if I mentioned it here before, but I wish instead of the meatheads on mammons they did something like the bear instead and instead of the Italian mastiff-looking hellhounds they did large and scruffy looking zombie wolves.

I think it really would've helped set the tone and atmosphere that we are no longer in the Bayou, but in the mountains.

[brazen root]

Oh yeah fantastic idea

[orchid tangle]

a chary hunter is one of my biggest hopes for playable characters but I'm scared they're gonna put him in a mask or something

[granite shard]

Crytek is afraid of the sheer amount of art I’d make if I got a canon chary design I feel

[orchid tangle]

chary is the coolest character imo

I wanted to love the statesman cuz he looked awesome and his teaser looked cool

the actual story though... did not like that as much

[spiral mica]

Don't we have a description of what Chary actually looks like? I wonder if anyone has attempted to draw him or make a concept for him as a hunter.

[orchid tangle]

all I remember is he has a cane

are any of the silhouettes in the traitors moon recap thing chary? I mean they just looked like tier 1's so I'm sure it'd be retconned but

[spiral mica]

I thought it also mentions that he's usually well-dressed and has long finger nails.

[granite shard]

He has long nails and wears red tea shades

[orchid tangle]

that's how I've always imagined him

I mean he was the leader of the aha for a time, as much voodoo stuff he gets involved in he has to have some sort of civilized manner

[spiral mica]

The "red tea" shades part always made me think of him as Marvel's Daredevil.

[orchid tangle]

red shades sounds cool now I want him more nghghh

[granite shard]

Writer friend described him as a murder twunk when we were joking around so that’s a general body type you could picture lmao

[orchid tangle]

there was a western that came out recently with nich cage and he wore light red crucifix glasses... it was pretty bad, but his character looked cool

[spiral mica]

I'm also intrigued by the long nails part because are they long and black like some kind of creature? Or are they long and yellow like Hector Barbossa from Pirates of the Caribbean?

[orchid tangle]

I imagine it has to be a bit freakishly long or theres not much reason to note it I feel

[granite shard]

I feel like they’re probably well groomed but long

Lmao mr chary has acrylics

[orchid tangle]

it at least has to be like a guitarist nails

[spiral mica]

That's what I was thinking also, and that makes sense if they're well groomed too

[orchid tangle]

monster claws would be cool but they'd def be noted specifically as such if they were

[granite shard]

This is just my HC but I like to think of him as on the surface looking like a relatively normal, blandly handsome guy but if you look at him for too long you start noticing that he just looks wrong

Like I think he has super bloodshot eyes which is why he wears the tea shades, maybe has super dark veins on his neck, the long nails, etc

[spiral mica]

Yeah, you've mentioned that before and I absolutely love that description of him.

[granite shard]

I also feel like his hands are really cold

[spiral mica]

He's more demon/creature than man.

[orchid tangle]

I always kept him kinda simple with just a black suit and maybe a few voodoo trinkets to keep that aspect of him without going full "mask psycho"

I liked the thought of him wearing a hat and some effigies hang from it, I wouldn't include that though if I were making the model

[spiral mica]

Nefarious and up to no good, but also fabulously dressed and devilishly polite.

[granite shard]

I think for me I’d go just full well dressed man, probably no trinkets or anything

Maybe occult embroidery on a tie

[orchid tangle]

tie designs would be cool

[spiral mica]

Yeah him looking relatively "normal" on the surface would help the idea that underneath and upon closer inspection he is in fact not right looking.

[granite shard]

This sort of thing for his hands would be sick as hell

[orchid tangle]

I hope if lore comes back he does too, they intentionally noted he wasn't dead last time he was brought up. But knowing Lynch...

[spiral mica]

When you said his hands would feel cold I got the image of something that looks like hypothermia on the fingers.

[granite shard]

Honestly I feel like chary and lynch are such similar villains that they can’t both be at play at once

[orchid tangle]

they gotta tag team events

[granite shard]

Which I think is why we saw him get fridged as lynch came back into relevance

His voice actor also fucking killed it

I never disliked chary but it was tide of corruption that really sold me on him

[spiral mica]

I agree with smalls in that if they did do events where Chary and Lynch were more focused as villains they'd probably have to do them separately.

[orchid tangle]

I just loved how sorta humanized chary was he knew he was mortal but was kinda cocky about it. Justifying his ducking in writing when infernal pact got jumped by death pact, iirc they also noted in the kingsnake mine fight he knew the people there could kill him by himself.

that just made him feel more "real" to me ig instead of some powerhouse villain

[granite shard]

He’s also just so silly

[orchid tangle]

ugh maybe I don't want desalle back I fucking HATE kingsnake

[granite shard]

I just love a guy with a little whimsy

I miss my wife (the saloon)

[spiral mica]

I like how he is so polite with people, even polite with his adversaries.

[granite shard]

I miss having the lesbian revenge song play on the piano

[spiral mica]

He was polite with Butcher's Cleaver and he was polite with Finch in the tide of corruption story.

[orchid tangle]

I was playing sulphur band music in my car once and my mom word for word went "is this a gay song"

[spiral mica]

Well, even though he was polite with BC he was also mocking him.

[granite shard]

That’s hysterical dude

[spiral mica]

I wish there was a way to toggle what music you hear in the menu. Like a sort of playlist function in-game.

I'd be playing Marked for Death all day long.

[granite shard]

I remember listening to dark is rising for the first time and I was like

[orchid tangle]

bullets lullaby 24/7

oh in the menu

I was thinking ingame

[spiral mica]

Yeah, well I wouldn't be doing it in-game since I really gotta listen for enemy hunters and whatnot lol

[orchid tangle]

if I could pick a menu song probably make them bleed

[spiral mica]

Yeah, my menu song picks would probably be Marked for Death and Make them bleed.

Hey, while on the topic of the music does anyone know what this soundtrack is from this video in particular or if it's even PS who makes these tracks? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAv5nk0Qrfw

[rugged harbor]

Poison Curse is an underrated banger imo

Though Dark is Rising is still my fav

[lucid anvil]

Agreed. Love that song

[granite shard]

From IG

"I was never afraid of falling, lost (??) of the ground rushing up to meet me xx NOT ANYMORE!!!"

not of the ground?

but?

[spiral mica]

Isn't Chary someone who is afraid of clouds, heights and falling?

Or maybe I'm misremembering.

[granite shard]

are we getting the return of the goat

[spiral mica]

Also, that map reminds me of Indiana Jones whenever he's taking a trip someplace.

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-travelling-gif-24055345

[granite shard]

I wonder if there's a reason the kiteskin art's used there

[noble scarab]

Chary was afraid of clouds for unknown reasons

I don’t think it’s talking about him tho

[granite shard]

the reason is a cloud fucked his leg up but we don't really know what caused that

[spiral mica]

I feel like Chary is the kind of hunter who always takes Kiteskin as a trait just because of his past experiences.

[spiral mica]

I figured it was because during the whole tide of shadows event the Delphine was floating above the clouds and fell or something like that?

Maybe he was afraid of falling too? Or afraid of something falling from the sky and hitting him?

Chary is actually Chicken Little and he is trying to tell us that the Sky is falling.

[orchid tangle]

if it's event teaser maybe they're doing pacts again and it's a trait effected by a pact

they've done that right

I'm not just thinking of solo bonuses

[granite shard]

yeah they used to do that

honestly the pact bonuses for traits was a really cool thing

[real dove]

Just of the ground

Not lost/lest

I was never afraid of falling, just of the ground reaching up to me

Rushing up to me sorry

NOT ANYMORE

[tall spade]

Why did the last event not put any Lore in the eyes of the player? I am not starting up a flame war here if that's something that causes one. I just realized during a conversation with a fellow player I was like, "I don't even know what it was about. There were witches? And some barely noticable flowers and mushrooms you sprinted past at full speed. I have no idea who the metal guys were, maybe they were fighting the witches?" I realize now that the lore is no longer put right in front of us, and I'm curious if there's a statement as to why?

[granite shard]

they downsized the writing team prior to the engine launch and so no event has had lore since scorched earth

there's hope that future events will have lore again bc they have brought some writers back onto hunt but it's not really certain how many they brought back and what the long term plans are

[orchid tangle]

and even scorched earth just felt like book of monsters for hellborn and two other useless stories (imo)

[spiral mica]

I'm still disappointed we never actually got a book of monsters for Hellborn like we did for Rotjaw. Hellborn may not be my favorite boss target in the game, but I still would've liked to learn more about him.

[orchid tangle]

I mean I think what we got on him in the event just was what we would've gotten

cuz the other stuff touched on in the chapters was really just people kinda... walking around

[real dove]

Yeah i agree

the lore for SE was hellborn's lore

likely because it was clear the new management didnt care about the lore they had stopped producing it

and that was all that was left

so they added to the BP

[orchid tangle]

the best part was hayalis VA

[real dove]

Hoping with the change in stuff they care more about the lore

[orchid tangle]

I hated his chapters though I didn't undersxtand the point

[real dove]

these little teasers give me hope

as well as it coming to the website

(which imo was the bare minimum to start with but eh, its better than David's famous "find it on some fan website")

[orchid tangle]

if they keep teasing like this it'll make me more interested cuz it feels more story focused for now...

[granite shard]

hayali is so silly I adore him

[orchid tangle]

I hope if they do lore again we can get some chapters with him his va was amazing

[granite shard]

Sameeeeeeee

[spiral mica]

Well, my main complaint about the SE story was that Thomas Bridge didn't play a larger role in it. I feel like he should have been one of the story narrators which is what I initially thought was going to be the case from the Scorched Earth official event trailer. I really would've liked to delve deeper into his life's story from what he was doing in his past to where he is going in his future. In my opinion they should have dedicated more time to all that and cover the extra stuff such as info regarding Hellborn in something like the book of monsters.

I also would've liked to learn more about the trappers and the wilderness pact since they were that event's new pact with the lawful and demented pacts being the returning ones.

[orchid tangle]

we shoulda got real lore on all of em

wilderness didn't do much
hayalis was literally... just him walking around and talking to butchers cleaver and beekeeper they did NOTHING

[spiral mica]

I guess at this point I should just be thankful Scorched Earth had lore to begin with, but I definitely wish we could've gotten more.

[orchid tangle]

post lore was just lite tide of corruption

brujas are an awesome concept I feel like we coulda gotten some cool lore if we were doing chapters with them

[untold thunder]

looking back on older events it kinda bothers me a bit that the previous hunters in events and stuff seem so much more important than the ones that have come out recently..

ig itll pick up again but can't help but feel like I really missed out 😭

[acoustic whale]

i still don't understand why u guys care about the lore

i mean do the devs care about it?

[untold thunder]

its..cool? why do you care that people care

[acoustic whale]

it has potential 100 percent but they aren't going the right direction

[orchid tangle]

if u think this channel has the nicest idea on crytek decisions you're wrong

[granite shard]

There’s clearly devs who cared about the lore, it’s execs who don’t

[spiral mica]

I've come to find out that the biggest culprits when it comes to this sort of thing are the shareholders.

Games like Fortnite have Sabrina Carpenter and Call of Duty has Nicki Minaj. Hunt Showdown has Post Malone and Ghostface killer.

[noble scarab]

I love that I have seen no post skins post-post event

[spiral mica]

I've seen a few here and there but nowhere near as many as during the event.

[noble scarab]

I see mostly Harley if any

[spiral mica]

But that goes for most skins. Ever since this previous one ended I haven't been seeing many welders or witches anymore.

I was using Cowl since he was boosted but now I've gone back to playing Scaled ward again.

[orchid tangle]

I see a few welders

Post skin users are def people who came here for post cuz tbh I usually find them very easy to kill

[real dove]

ive seen a few posts

rare tho

[gilded umbra]

I must admit I like using skins that are rare and unobtainable like Cardinal Rain.

[spiral mica]

That's one of the reasons I use Scaled ward a lot. Sometimes I'll get questions like "what event is that from" and then I have to explain that he isn't actually from an event and that there used to be these things called questlines.

[orchid tangle]

questlines were the real challenges

I remember finishing mama maye in the last hour

[untold thunder]

that kinda goes to show though crytek don't have any reverence for that then :p mama maye is just a purchasable hunter for 1000BBs now 🤷

[gilded umbra]

I hope they bring back challenges and hunters obtained from them. I remember unlocking Billy Story that way on PC, at the last minute before the questline was concluded. I felt a true sense of accomplishment and I had to work hard at something that was ultimately worth it.

[orchid tangle]

that's a lotta money I didn't pay

[untold thunder]

ofc ^^ just getting at the whole exclusivity part

[mint wind]

Weeeeeell she ́s not mythic.

[rare dirge]

Halloween and Christmas skins were always gonna come back they are seasonal not exclusive

[slate shale]

Куди писати щоб зробили українську локацію ?

[real cedar]

#game-ideas is where that stuff mostly goes, or you can write to the developers more directly with #customer-support , though the website is currently down so it'd have to be at a later time.

[granite shard]

https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1922336047444136213/photo/1

fuck we still can't post images in the server

[granite shard]

ty bestie

???? Notice: Reports of heightened agent occurrence in the dark. Be Wary

[brazen root]

there's a letter between a and g in agent, argent?

[granite shard]

oh wait yeah you're right

argent?

wow teen wolf crossover

I can't believe I get to play as my beloved chris argent

[real cedar]

Something about that occurrence seems off. It almost reads like occupessence or something

[brazen root]

and that doesnt say occurence either wtf

[granite shard]

damn I apparently just can't read today

occulessence isn't a word but that might be an L?

[real cedar]

occulessence might be a word to Hunters 🤔

[granite shard]

argent occulessence then? so silver whatever

[real cedar]

Argent Occulessence... I really hope it's not my first idea

Or maybe it is my first idea and it's not hinting at anything beyond "Hey that new Doom game is coming out, congrats to them!"

[granite shard]

lol

I mean there's no shot this is anything but a teaser for an upcoming event

were the headers for twitter/reddit/facebook/etc all the same?

as in the same text

I know some people had been trying to see if there were any differences between fb and twitter but idk if instagram or reddit were looked at

(are there even headers on ig lol)

[real cedar]

No extra description on instagram or facebook for that post, just the images in different resolutions

[granite shard]

oh I'm thinking of just the header that updated last week with the text

[real cedar]

Yeah just the twitter and facebook headers

I think the first word is Urgent, that makes sense

[granite shard]

I guess they focused on updating the headers you could actually expand the image from lol

urgent makes sense yeah

[acoustic hornet]

Did they not make an actual post for that kiteskin post they had on their social media stories? I was gonna see if there was any relation but I only have a screenshot of their twitch story

[real cedar]

It was only on the instagram feed, not a post of its own

[acoustic hornet]

Ah I see

Cause I can't read my shitty screenshot lol

[granite shard]

I was gonna try and post a screencap of the reddit header

But no images rn lmao

[real cedar]

"I was never afraid of falling, just of the ground rushing up to meet me. NOT ANYMORE!!"
The other text on the side is the same for all accolades: Jackson, October 16, 1895, Rast Louisiana M. H. Printrrs, Phillips Strrrt, Jackson

[granite shard]

I think there's something there but the resolution is so bad

and you can't extract the header at all

[real cedar]

Funny detail that the printer's E key is broken so they just used Rs

[acoustic hornet]

Thank you 🙂

[real cedar]

Inspecting element can get you a 4000 x 200 banner that's almost readable

[granite shard]

oh pog

[real cedar]

Ctrl + Shift + C, click on the banner, then scroll through the text for the sizes and find "original banner"

[granite shard]

wow that is still very hard to read

ugh if i was at home I'd try and mess with the contrast and stuff so the text would stand out more

but alas. work

[spiral mica]

Huh, maybe they are putting more of a focus on the hunters and the inoculations they receive.

[orchid tangle]

I don't wanna get my hopes up but it feels like a return to some sort of narrative

[granite shard]

fingers crossed man

[spiral mica]

Yeah, it looks and feels like it, but you're right I probably shouldn't get my hopes too high. This could all just be an elaborate way of teasing another event.

However, I deeply hope it is them making a return to a narrative.

[real cedar]

I was hoping to do the same thing the guy on reddit did with comparing versions of banners to make the text pop but it's been event after event 💀

Ah, wayback doesn't offer the same level of inspect element

Oh nope there it is, just a little harder to find

[granite shard]

oh cool we can upload images now

[short patio]

right click on it link or pictur open and it is in max

[granite shard]

not that image tho, it's the reddit banner

there's text on it but the resolution is still too bad

[real cedar]

Here's the original cropped to just the message

Brightened and contrast improved

[granite shard]

pog

[real cedar]

And divided against the previous banner

[granite shard]

something all aches and pains

[real cedar]

Still a struggle to read lol

[short patio]

is the scribble there not related to kiteskin ?

[real cedar]

I don't think so, the twitter banner talks about a Cure-all. The kiteskin post was only on instagram reels, in a similar manner to when they teased the Bones and Bounties DLC far too early

[short patio]

ok

[noble scarab]

Odd that they’re being this cryptic with it

Crytek normally isn’t subtle

Teasers are one thing but hiding words in banners is different

[real cedar]

Wayyy back in early access they hid small voynich messages in their social media stuff. It could be since they got some of the old narrative designers back they decided to do a similar subtle campaign

Hell I think most of that subtle stuff was even pre-launch

[short patio]

but i read it not as cure more like : proff... rags all aches and pain : i cant see him

[real cedar]

Ye this is the reddit banner, slightly different from the twitter and facebook ones that had this message:

Best I can guess with this new banner:
"P??? ALL aches and pains. I can see them (Him?) feel ??? and smiles easy"
Might need to pull out the colored MS paint line experiments like we did for the Hellborn sketches

[real cedar]

Another attempt at clarity

[spiral mica]

It seems like part of that message is covered by individual or random voynich. Perhaps you're supposed to match those individual voynich with the rest of the message to figure out whatever the rest of the message says? Although, looking at it closer it doesn't really look like there's enough voynich to match to make a whole finished sentence.

[real cedar]

The voynich that remains looks similar to the usual gibberish that floats around the logo half the time so I've just been mentally blocking it out. Might be something to look into

[buoyant flax]

“People have all aches and pains: I can see them **** *** and smiles(?) every(?)”

No clue

[real cedar]

Good catch on People 💪

[spiral mica]

All I can actually read myself is "??? all aches and pains ??? I can see them and smells crazy."

[buoyant flax]

I think the part after “I can see them” might say “Kill Me” written over or under something else

[spiral mica]

Yeah I just noticed that too. Whoever wrote this was likely someone in a lot of pain.

[buoyant flax]

Last word could be easy, it ends with a period so I don’t think “every” would make most sense

[real cedar]

Maybe vary?

[spiral mica]

True, but what could it mean by "and smiles easy" or "and smells easy?"

[real cedar]

It doesn't look too similar to the other 'e's in the text

[buoyant flax]

That’s what I was also thinking

Idk it’s the writings of some crazy dude in pain

Is the second to last word “smites”?

[spiral mica]

I don't really know if the person in question is crazy or not, but yeah, the way it's written out sounds like this person is experiencing a lot of pain and suffering.

[spiral mica]

Could be, but then we're left with "and smites every [blank]"
Maybe this person who was writing this died before they could finish?

[real cedar]

Nah, it's all one author writing these messages so I don't think they'd die in a banner

[buoyant flax]

And like I mentioned the period looks deliberate, not like he was cut off

[spiral mica]

So maybe they are crazy or maybe just illiterate.

[real cedar]

Or they're a doctor

[spiral mica]

Or a mad scientist?

[real cedar]

"My" cure-all and the terrible handwriting are two points towards that

[spiral mica]

We were discussing the possibilities of all that earlier.

[real cedar]

It would fit with the healing theme

[spiral mica]

Also, when you said that the word "Occulessence" could suggest hunters it leads me to believe whatever this writing is hinting at has something to do with the hunters and the inoculations.

Maybe the person writing this is a very important doctor or scientist, one responsible for creating and or manufacturing such an inoculation.

[real cedar]

It's definitely an F on that word before ME!!!, it's got the same style as "falling" in the kiteskin image. Face, Feel, Fear, it's just too jumbled to see.
Someone else might have to take a crack at it with better software.

🤔 Heightened argent occulessence in the dark, could that mean Hunters are reporting something different in darksight?
If you take it at its etymology, argent occulessence would mean silver hidden true nature, which sounds pretty similar to what we see with darksight.

[spiral mica]

Wait a minute... there's a charm called "Argent crown" its the bonus charm from tide of corruption. I know it well because it's one of the ones I've missed, and if memory serves correctly the description of it talks about brains, crows and something silver. I think it also makes mention of the land of the dead.

Could that be what argent occulessence is referring to?

[granite shard]

I'd be surprised to see more land of the dead stuff rn

[real cedar]

Probably just a thesaurus issue, only so many ways to say silver in fancy archaic ways

"The brains of lost Hunters are rumored to be in the Land of the Dead. They’ve been flashed into silver, hardened into mazes, into roosts. It’s said a sole raven can be seen perched on them as it patrols the marshes of its endless bayou."

[granite shard]

I think we should go back to my theory abt this clearly being a MTV teen wolf crossover

obviously that's the reason argent was said

lmao

but yeah I think it's just trying to say silver but fancier

[spiral mica]

Rai said new doom game lol maybe hunters will be running around using argent energy?

Oh just imagine something like the Crucible in hunt. Strongest melee weapon to date and the weapon just instantly red skulls you upon impact.

[granite shard]

lmao

[buoyant flax]

Most likely than not. Looking at the censuses of that time, most people in rural regions are marked as illiterate, except for people like doctors ofc

Maybe I’m just thinking too much but a doctor just seems like the most sense

[short patio]

a new perk or buff for a perk that lets u see sound traps 🤔

[earnest jungle]

The "occulessence" thing is driving me insane

I swear I've heard a word like that somewhere before.

I think I've got it.

Occulessence breaks down into occul + essence.

occulo is the latin verb "to cover/hide/conceal"

occulo essence => Occulessence

So Argent Occulessence means "Silvery Hiden Energy"

Now this could be as Rai suggested a shout out to Doom the Dark Ages

But it seems really fucking cryptic for that

[granite shard]

With the other teasers happening it’s more likely than not something for the upcoming event

[earnest jungle]

So we've got a hidden silver essence and a mad doctor

Silver has been used medicinally for it's antiseptic properties for millenial and collodial silver - a favorite of alternative medicine - was used in the 1890s.

[noble scarab]

Doom x hunt cross over event?

(Please no)

[earnest jungle]

Lol

Don’t joke tibs

We live in a Post Murder Circus world

So don’t joke

Lest you provoke the wrath of the Happy Fun Ball

[noble scarab]

No need for the dodgeball yet

[earnest jungle]

You know lead was an ingredient in an ancient Chinese Immortality potion…

As was gold

[granite shard]

You know back for international women’s day they said they wanted to do more with the prescient’s atory

Story*

If it has to do with darksight like I’m seeing some people theorize, 2-3 months probably gives time for them to develop some form of a narrative

[earnest jungle]

Wait Mercury!

[noble scarab]

They have a bit to develop from harvest of ghosts

[earnest jungle]

A silvery metal connected to cure alls

Huff and Finch had been working on an immortality elxir

Now we got a mad doctor raving about cure alls

We’re doing alchemy shit

[granite shard]

Next potential

It leads to nothing like all of the other potential story hook teasers

[earnest jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/andarxrr-gif-8928526013272598729

So we have a couple possible theories now:
• Argent Occulessence refers to silver which corresponds with the moon in alchemy
• Argent Occulessence refers to Mercury which in Alchemy corresponds with Azoth the animating spirit hidden in all matter that makes transmutation possible
• It means absolutely nothing at all and I’ve wasted an hour of my life on this.

[orchid tangle]

I'm going all in on the third option

it's gonna be a paragraph story like we got for murder circus

[real dove]

dont do that

i want to hope

[orchid tangle]

I want to hope very badly that's why I'm setting myself up to either being right and I feel nothing or being wrong and I feel very happy

[gilded umbra]

I’m hoping for the return of Desalle, of course. I remember how it was the last of the bayou maps to be released and how it was rolled out.

History tends to repeat itself so my best guess is a new event featuring that map. 🗺️

[noble scarab]

I would like to humbly request rain back. Preferably with Desalle

[earnest jungle]

RAIN! RAIN! RAIN! RAIN!

[granite shard]

I’m gonna be so real rn

The rain was cool at first but man I do not miss it

[spiral mica]

I'd like to see Serpent moon come back. Although, I've also had people tell me they really don't like that green glow filter that shows while playing.

[orchid tangle]

I miss rain a lot
it's ashbloom I'm fine with staying gone

moreso because I'm salty ashbloom was permanent but inferno wasn't

[gilded umbra]

Thundershower 🌧️

[acoustic whale]

in rain we could not burn right?

unless inside buildings etc

[orchid tangle]

I think it was like on light rain you would burn but once it went into a heavy storm you'd stop burning

[acoustic whale]

oh i see

[noble scarab]

Ash bloom is kinda fucked on account of the fake footsteps and other random noise. I appreciate it for the creepiness and adding to the atmosphere but not having it is fine

[rotund ferry]

I like bloom more than fog its like set in of maddness that adds to creep and plays on your mind

[strange bane]

I loved the fog and bloom lol

But bloom all the time was a bit fucked

[brazen root]

i think they should upgrade ash bloom to have actual real footsteps that sound exactly like a real hunter

[real dove]

with real hunter deathn noises

[orchid tangle]

first 10 minutes in ashbloom had to be one of the most panic filled moments in my gaming life

[spiral mica]

On one hand I really like how the conditions like rainstorms, inferno and ashbloom have mechanics that are more than just ambience like how during heavy rain it'll put out and prevent burning hunters, but on the other hand I hate how the conditions are so noisy.

Like, I'm sure many people can agree that they're cool additions to the game, but sometimes it feels like I can't hear my opponents through all that noise and they can hear perfectly fine.

[real dove]

Entirely possible with different qualities of headsets

I outhear my normal duo partner

Also possible that my hearing is better (ex military can't hear so good no more)

I like the noise (lance main) but would love for us to get a light rain only mode as well as thundershowers

Ash bloom I have mixed feelings on

[gilded umbra]

I miss all of those weather conditions.

[frank bobcat]

The rain really punishes more v shaped headphone response that most "gaming" setups have

Especially ones designed to give you an advantage

If you use flat response monitors the rain is much less startling

[loud steeple]

Ash bloom is the worst weather type that has ever been in this game. I will die on this hill

[real dove]

I honestly didn't hate it, but the 50/50 odds of it got old

Needs to be 1/10

Occasional treat

[loud steeple]

honestly the map ratio is getting to me. I have yet to get to the point where I have started tallying it but both of the people I usually play with and I all feel that we get mammon’s at least 50% - 60% of our matches

It’s nowhere close to even between the three

[spiral mica]

I often find myself getting a lot of Stillwater maps, which also happens to be my least favorite map. It is this continuous Stillwater matchmaking that has only increased my desire for DeSalle to return to us.

I've said it plenty of times before to friends I play with, but if I could never get a Stillwater match again, and only receive matches on Mammon's, Lawson and DeSalle I don't think I would have any issue with that at all.

But I guess the reason I'm getting so many matches on Stillwater in the first place is probably because I dislike it so much. It's one of those hunt taketh moments similar to how you take a scoped weapon loadout and get a low visibility condition or you trap a compound from top to bottom and nobody shows up to fight or how you'll take something like dumdum in your gun and get nothing but headshots, but when you take high velocity you're only getting body shots. Hunt has always had a very weird albeit intriguing way of punishing it's players based on minor decisions they make.

[orchid tangle]

I can literally get like 15 mammons in a row before a Louisiana map I hate it. People say you only notice it because you're thinking about it and it's really all the same chance but I'm calling bullshit

Hunt is cursed

I specifically remember when challenges were moreso busy work ai kills I had one for grunts and quite literally not a SINGLE ONE spawned in my starting compound

Or I could go 5 full marches not seeing hellhounds

There is an evil spirit in hunt and it hates people's preferences

[neat juniper]

Hunt's haunted

[brazen root]

this actually happens because crytek hires employees to watch you play and control variables in your games in real time

[granite shard]

it's actually a patented desire sensor system

the more you want something the less likely it is to show up

free yourself of all desire and watch as all of the hellhounds, hives, meatmen, and immolators show up in your games

[brazen root]

very true, why do you think hunt needs mic access? voice chat? hah, thats just a poor excuse, they're reading the emotions from your voice

[granite shard]

exactly

[noble scarab]

They don’t even need voice access, they can just tweak mobs based on your challenges in real time

[granite shard]

no they need the voice access

it's not a challenge based system it's specifically geared towards what you want to see the most

[noble scarab]

Would it not be what you want to see the least?

[granite shard]

it's part of crytek's deep desire for us all to free ourselves of desire and achieve enlightenment

it finds what you want to see the most and does not give it to you

[noble scarab]

If we all think that we want that immolator to spawn next to us during a fight or for that hive 70 meters away to aggro onto us then we shall achieve enlightenment

[brazen root]

So real

[spiral mica]

I remember when the penitent released and people made jokes about how he's the perfect kind of skin for any hunt player since we all suffer playing this game.

[orchid tangle]

I don't remember my reaction but I imagine I was salty over another masked psycho

[real cedar]

New Trait, or is this implying Haymaker may be fanned in the future?

[noble scarab]

Maybe an extension of martialist? I think haymaker in this context refers more to a punch than a gun

[granite shard]

Maybe it’s a return of pacts

And the mechanic where the pacts all change how a different perk works

Like we saw kiteskin’s art the other day with a dude who’s no longer afraid of falling

Maybe a pact improves fanning’s accuracy and/or lets you fan the uppermat

(Would that even be good tho?)

But like maybe no fall damage kiteskin w one pact and improved fanning in another

[earnest jungle]

“Wrist like Iron” “bang bang bang” “make the fans roar”

This is either miraculous misdirection or the Haymaker and other medium slot pistols are getting some kind of new trait to enable fanning

[noble scarab]

What other medium slot pistols do we have?

[real cedar]

All the precision variants

Though I hope it's not something like that, it just further entrenches the quartermaster meta

[noble scarab]

Somehow I forgot those exist

And almost all of those are held in 2 hands and or have a scope blocking the top part of the gun

So I don’t know how they’d be fanable without adding an extra arm or something

I guess you can hold the precisions one handed like the uppercut and scotfield

[real cedar]

That's where the wrists like iron come in I suppose.
The nagant, scottfield, and uppercut precision all have the possibility of being fanned if you take a semi-awkward stance of driving the stock into your shoulder with one hand and fanning with the other

Or perhaps against your hip like the chukonu?

[noble scarab]

Maybe hip fire but worse with more recoil?

Kinda like the pre-buff levering on the mako

[real cedar]

Outside of that new teaser, here's a more lore focused article that one of Crytek's favorite outsource studios released about how they design weapon skins for the game.
https://www.artstation.com/blogs/entgld/V96V1/game-art-for-hunt-showdown-case-study-entangled-studio

In some ways it's interesting, in some ways it's disappointing to see how little connection to the game these skins have. One dev gives a name and a blurb, and a studio disconnected from Crytek goes to work in trying to match the style using their own ideas.
Killian's Chance was an afterthought, one of several concept iterations on a single name + blurb given to the studio in the making of Blue Bourbon.

[noble scarab]

Those are pretty good, I like the bottom left one especially

[loud steeple]

“Crytek hires employees” I think you mixed up hires with another word that starts with an f

[spiral mica]

Oh man, I was just talking about how it would be cool if we could dual wield some two slot weapons like the Haymaker. Maybe they'll bring back gunrunner since it's been so popular lately with players and they'll give it the ability to allow dual wield with certain two slot guns like the Haymaker?

[granite shard]

ooh dual wielding makes more sense

I can't see fanning a uppermat working but I could see dualweilding working

[real cedar]

It could be a chunky, slower fanning perhaps

Hella wrist strength needed though

[spiral mica]

Imagine dual wielding the obrez or uppercut precisions lol

Technically you could fan single action precision weapons, but for balancing purposes you can't. It's the same deal with the slate and slamfiring since yeah, you could slamfire a slate, but for the sake of balancing the weapons you can't. Although, one of the most common game suggestions I've seen is the ability for the slate to be slamfired or a slamfire trait for pump actions.

[loud steeple]

Well day one of tallying map distributions I got 5 mammon’s, 1 Stillwater and 2 Lawson

[vague hatch]

Ok I got some questions about the avtamat. I did some reasearch and found out the Avtamat (Huot Rifle) is not from the same weapon tree as the (american made) mosin nagant. The Avtamat (Huot rifle) comes from the (canadian) Ross Rifle and got produced early in September 1916 and adopted by the british army on 22 October 1917. So now to my question why is the Avtamat (Huot rifle) in Hunt?

[real cedar]

The avto takes design inspiration from the Huot (while the firing mechanism is more based on the Cei Rigotti according to the model's creator, Alexander Asmus) but is its own thing in-universe, made by a mad gunsmith and never really seen outside of The Hunt. Researchers looking back on the time thought written reports of automatic gunfire was just scared people being mistaken about volleys of multiple weapons, until the schematics were found.

[orchid tangle]

didn't even consider like a maxim gun being out there?

[real cedar]

I'd assume the context around the report the Modern Researcher is referring to precludes that

RN: Significant among his papers were the seeming verification of multiple other events. On top of that, the confirmation of early prototypes of automatic weapons. Many greenhorn Hunters lived in fear of these, rattling out, and originally we mistook their accounts to be intimidation by disciplined fire – until the very same schematics noted here turned up once more.

Something like "We were closing in on these two guys on foot when all of a sudden one of them sprays a lot of bullets" which naturally couldn't occur with a maxim emplacement

[orchid tangle]

that'd make more sense, I was taking it as they just shrugged off reports not investigating it

[vague hatch]

So it´s basically based on no weapon tree?...

[real cedar]

Pretty much, just one guy's crazy idea that kinda worked. There's plenty of those in that era, everyone was innovating just for the sake of it cause the "proper way to do things" hadn't been cemented.

[vague hatch]

thanks this question been on my mind for days and I needed answers xD

[real cedar]

Here's the proper text from the Book of Weapons, along with a link describing the Avto's creation in a story. Sadly these aren't in the game anymore for people to read and discover.
MOSIN-NAGANT M1891 AVTOMAT. (See also, RIFLE, RUSSIAN FIREARMS.) The original Mosin-Nagant rifle may be one of the most difficult—bordering on the impossible—bolt-action rifles to modify into a fully automatic firearm. No sane engineer would even consider such a thing, and the design of the Mosin-Nagant Avtomat clearly indicates that its creator was an adept, if mentally unstable person. It would have taken extraordinary gunsmithing skills to modify the Mosin-Nagant in this way, making it one of the rarest automatic weapons of its time. As such, it never gained traction among conventional military forces, going to far against the grain of contemporary military theory, and was never mass produced. The Avtomat improves upon the original Mosin-Nagant design primarily with the addition of a gas driven receiver. A larger cartridge drum magazine that can be reloaded five at a time or individually, should one have fewer than five cartridges available. The speed of fire can cause the weapon to overheat, as such the barrel has been modified for cooling.
https://huntshowdown.wiki.gg/wiki/Lore/John_Victor_Interview

[real cedar]

Worried about the BIRDS and BEASTS bothering you?
There is something for that too

or is that watching rather than bothering?

Yeah it's watching

Sounds like the return of boosted Beastface, though idk why they'd put a Hellhound on the image

[acoustic hornet]

Shadow effect against Hellhounds

[earnest jungle]

That’s definitely watching

[granite shard]

okay yeah I'm feeling more confident abt pacts returning and there being pact boosted traits again

like I'm guessing beastface, kiteskin, and then either fanning or quartermaster

[median zealot]

Are the birds we see ingame just normal birds chillin, or does the sculptor control/influence them to inconvience hunters? Im not sure birds congregate on the ground like that normally.

[real cedar]

It seems like they're normal birds, but their behavior might be altered a bit by the Corruption, in a similar way the horses were afflicted and the caged dogs grew mangy. The chickens seem totally fine though so maybe it just doesn't afflict birds, the natural enemy of insects.
The only part of the lore that touches upon it is in Scrapbeak's story
But what of the birds? They arrived before the beaked beast first appeared! They are drawn to the Scrapbeak specifically - not just the so-called Sculptor's power - that is evident in their behavior. But the timing of their appearance indicates foreknowledge of what – and who – would come.

[rugged harbor]

For a second i thought the building in the background was one in desalle but I think its lawson station

[real cedar]

The boarded up windows threw me off but yeah it's the back door of Lawson Station

[rugged harbor]

yeah, it got me excited when i first saw it

[brazen root]

if its fucking crack shot again lmfao

[granite shard]

Lmfao god I hope not

Honestly if we get fanning on the two slot pistols it’ll probably be so bad

Dual wielding two slot pistols would probably also be so bad

Both of those sound like memes lmao

[spiral mica]

I'd assume dual wielding two slots would be incredibly inaccurate though, and since hopefully no crack shot it wouldn't be as bad as I think.

[gilded umbra]

I hope the next event has a story to unlock. I miss those.

[runic gate]

So what’s the deal with the Scrapbeak freaks

Like are they just worshippers?
Is there more?

[real dove]

worshippers

kile pig

like pig

and the assassin hood guy

the demented pact worshipped the sculptor- there's some lore from the first time the pact appeared

[visual finch]

All hail the swinelord

[runic gate]

They just like me fr fr

I love Scrapbeak

Like it’s up there with my favourite monster designs

[real dove]

I love hunts monsters

[runic gate]

Scrapbeak is just peak

[neat juniper]

Scrappeak

[acoustic whale]

Scrabbeak

[visual finch]

peakpeak

[granite shard]

https://x.com/HuntShowdown/status/1924510401623949486

Hunt: Showdown (@HuntShowdown) on X

Strong enough now to lift an ox, an axe, and the Judge’s temper.

X · May 19, 2025, 5:00 PM

new hunter?

that's a conspicuous capitalization lmao

this isn't how they usually start to tease DLC, but this also doesn't super line up w the teasers

unless the cure-all is what made the person strong

[supple smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/holden-gif-13789521976476455914

[granite shard]

I feel like there's a reference to a judge or judgement or something like that in some weapon description that's on the tip of my tongue

[lofty quarry]

Thought the same thing.

[granite shard]

lmfao went to the lore doc and saw rai has already added the teaser to it

[real cedar]

Just typed it out lol

[granite shard]

ah yeah the private eye has a gun named judge

maybe that's what I'm thinking of

wait no

it's bc of the lyric video posted the other day

wonder if this is DLC or what

[real cedar]

The stilted teaser style makes me think it has to do with everything else that's been teased in the banners and such. If it was a regular ass DLC they'd put out an image of one of the guns teasing it like usual.

[granite shard]

yeah it just feels weird to go from all this medical/occult stuff to the judge

but I guess we had welders and brujas so

[real dove]

[orchid tangle]

you know how annoying this fucking gun makes lore accurate loadouts

[granite shard]

lmao

look now she'll have her bestie the judge as she uses her gun the judge

is this the first time we'd see a weapon skin and a hunter skin have the same name

[orchid tangle]

it's my headcanon her bestie is devils advocate

my friend that I always plays with mains advocate and he ALWAYS manages to hit me during boss fights, like more times than not he will accidentally hit me instead. So when that "it all ends soon" or whatever teaser came out and advocate shoulder checks her for no reason I lost my shit

[granite shard]

lmao

it's like when I was drawing my silver spur x hex breaker art and then they dropped a graphic w the two of them together and hex breaker reaching out for silver spur

[orchid tangle]

those are good hunters I use a lot. I think my mains now would be private eye, statesman, hex, silver spur, and drowned rat

I'm still scared to get my hopes up but they're doing a lot of teasers that I'll be surprised if we don't get some sort of narrative with this event

[granite shard]

god I really hope man

[spiral mica]

I forgot, but isn't the Meridian Trenchcoat a reference to Blood Meridian or is that just a theory?

[granite shard]

I think just a theory

I’ve never read blood meridian is there any sort of doctor in it?

[real cedar]

Idk whether there's more connections to the book in his story or character or anything but the last line saying "Meridian of Blood" is way too on the nose not to be

[spiral mica]

I'm not sure. I've never gotten around to reading it myself.

[spiral mica]

Have the devs ever mentioned or confirmed that he is a reference or are we just assuming that the "Meridian of Blood" part is a nod to it?

[real cedar]

Just assuming, like most other references

[spiral mica]

Are there any references in Hunt to any other pieces of media that the devs have outright confirmed in a stream or anything?

Besides the obvious ones like the Ghostface killer.

[real cedar]

Not pieces of media from what I can remember, but they posted a comparison between Carter and Buffalo Bill once on twitter years ago

I haven't watched many streams but there's probably one or two talked about casually across the dozens of hours

[spiral mica]

Anything on Billy the Kid and Turner or Desert Rose and Annie Oakley?

[real cedar]

Not that I remember but I only skimmed through the years of posts, didn't look especially closely

[orchid tangle]

it's been a while since I read but it's really just about a || runaway boy being jerked around as a drifter into stupid situations and groomed into fighting with veterans/thugs who wanna keep the american mexican war going. He doesn't really betray those guys he's just kinda there but he does do stuff with the judge and other people for a bit and then realizes it's fucked up and "turncoats" if you wanna reach it ||

personally I just think it's a nod with the wording though, nothing more than the viking with the berserk logo

you know what I can reach more with this the steam page says "Falsely labeled a turncoat after his regiment’s ambush" after he went West

|| When the kid got groomed up by the guys who wanted to kill mexicans/natives, they did show themselves off as an actual regiment, ranks and they were def veterans but I don't think it was official business, I'm pretty sure they legit established with him about heading West, though that may be me misremembering because I'm thinking of west, they did 100% note some sort of direction. but the regiment was a personal vendetta to plunder. They do get ambushed/lose fights to natives and mexicans and the kid kinda just leaves them. Not turncoat but he's not ride or die ||

I think he was 17 around this point when he says the "war" is over so I'll just assume thats 1848 on the dot. Assuming he's turncoat he'd be in the bayou by 1895 which would make him 64. Turncoat def looks decently old.

but chances are I'm either misremebering something here, none of the people who worked on him read the book, or both

[mint wind]

The kid is 14 at the beginning, 16 once he finally gets out of a hell. The guys he meets first are irregulars, they have access to military equipement but aren’t official soldiers.

[real cedar]

Oh shit a real teaser

New Hunter

Return of the Lawful Pact?

[granite shard]

Maybe yeah

Safe to assume that’s the judge?

That’s pretty spot on judge Holden

[real cedar]

The assumption then is that Doc Redmartin will also be a Hunter

[granite shard]

Ohh yeah

Please I just want to see his face crytek

[real cedar]

So does he

[granite shard]

There’s a redmartin skin for some Winnie variant right?

[real cedar]

Yup, a regular Ranger 73 skin that The Spirited owns.
The infamous Doc Redmartin joked he was not so different from a barkeeper, but while he cared for the body, Eddie Davies tended to the soul. Pretty words were meaningless when he couldn't afford his tab, and Eddie went home with a new Ranger 73.

[granite shard]

Incheresting

Caring for the body goes along w a cure all

[real cedar]

So I guess these teasers were written by Doc Redmartin - I was totally right calling out his bad handwriting 😂

The plaque on the gun and his poster advertisement both are pretty similar to the cure-all mentions.
"Since 1884 - Doc Redmartin’s Fine Remedies - Effective, Natural, & Absolutely Safe"

[spiral mica]

He reminds me of Wilson Fisk.

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-daredevil-born-again-wilson-fisk-gif-8919589091672627535

[earnest jungle]

I FUCKING CALLED IT!

Bald as an Egg, White Skin!

We're getting a Judge Holden skin

[brazen root]

At least three missing person posters?

[spiral mica]

Yeah, I'm actually more curious about those missing persons.

[granite shard]

lmao there's its ad at the top of the image too

[brazen root]

Ah yeah says doc redmartin right there

[granite shard]

someone on twitter pointed this out

june 6th for the event start?

[spiral mica]

I've seen the Henry Trauber poster on Mammon's before. Kinda strange that there is a Delphine poster directly next to it in correlation to that, but I guess they ran out of poster material to use for this teaser.

[brazen root]

So, leading theory is what, redmartin is some fucked up snake oil salesman of sorts that potentially uh, kidnaps and disfigures people?

[spiral mica]

Probably both those things, yeah.