lore-discussion

[cold idol]

My 3-year old nephew can be a better narrator

"Wow guys don't you love a mystery?"

Make another 3-hour long youtube theory video pls!!!

[upbeat kiln]

Put me in, coach. I'm ready.

[neat juniper]

noted

[pearl abyss]

I would honestly love to try my hand at writing hunt showdown lore/fanfic.

[glad lake]

Try it

No better way to have fun then by unleashing your creativity

[pearl abyss]

granted I semi did once but that was more of a crossover. I may try again

[junior pecan]

Would it not be possible to just shift the mystery off of the premise and onto the story?

1. Mysterious premise with cryptids and intrigue etc etc

2. Slowly reveal and explain the bizarre rules and history behind these previously inexplicable events

3. Now, with a proper understanding, shift the audience’s attention from the mystery of “wtf is going on” to the mystery of “how are my favorite characters going to survive this adventure”

That seems like the obvious choice to me, and what I incorrectly hoped the life cycle of hunt was going to be.

[rotund ferry]

Yes I get what you're saying mystery eventually turns into history

[junior pecan]

Wasted effort my man, too many creative liberties taken for game balance. Glad someone cares though.

[cold idol]

Not mine

[junior pecan]

Still applies, poor [differently abled individual] would be better off using that level of attention to detail elsewhere.

[rotund ferry]

The Krag has so many issues and yet it's still such a good gun

I wonder if they'll ever add the Springfield M1903

[junior pecan]

Yeah but I’m making the connection that it disproves your point, or at least that it would if done properly.

[rotund ferry]

Yeah I agree that the story should shift from mystery to absolution

Because after awhile you're gonna find stuff out

Like who Mr. Chary is and what is grand Master plan is and why he's in Louisana fighting a boy named Kevin Linus etc

[junior pecan]

The different writing teams each seemed stuck on the mystery though, maybe they all wanted to try their hand at it, but they really need to move on.

[rotund ferry]

Well the current event lore doesn't seem like a crazy deal to me but it certainly still leaves things to be desired

We got songs in the form of waxtapes but iirc the lyrics don't even match up with one of them

And I'm still not entirely sure if the songs are intended to be from Kevin's perspective

The information we have about this game is very splintered and part of that is definitely because of the mystery vibe they're trying to go for but I don't feel like it always works

Why does eating flesh give you the shits

What's the lore behind that

Do not eat rotten flesh in minecraft
It might look like pixelated beef jerky but it is not!

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

Yeah, but what about not rotten meat

I mean, chickens seem pretty healthy

So do horses

So do alligators

They could implement a cooking mechanic

Gator taste good

Hey you're looking like a snack

🤤

🍴

I will shove a round so far up your bum you'll shit powder for a week.

Don't threaten me with a good time

Shut it.

But yeah

Add cooking to the game

Well chicken has salmonella and salmonella gives you the runs

Don't eat it raw

I don't really think there needs to be cooking in Hunt because hunt isn't supposed to be a game like Tarkov, sure it has similarities but it's not a clone

Fair fair

[rotund ferry]

https://youtu.be/72gJ9Cu3X4A

You guys saw this video?

I think this explains grounded pact lore

That dark perchta seems to have some kind of super powers where she can revive grounded pact hunters

''Perchta only grows more feverous as the days shorten, for in the dark her truest form takes hold, and the light cowers from her fury.''

Perchta only grows more feverous as the days shorten

I think this part maybe talks about event getting closer to ending?

That's a bit of a stretch I think Perchta's character description is just more cryptic messaging intended to be interpreted as the viewer sees it

Frau Perchta is from the Alps which is a region of Germany and Austria with a lot of history and folklore so it could also be in reference to something like that

And Crytek taking folklore inspiration for hunters isn't unheard of

They did it for Luz Mala, Llorona's Heir, Devil's advocate and Skinflint to name a few

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perchta

[rotund ferry]

Who revives grounded pact hunters tho? In this video Perchta literally revives a hunter?

So I'm trying to understand what kind of goddess Perchta is

[heady tree]

It's Austrian folklore mostly... PsychoGhost has a video explaining it a bit. She's a shapeshifter and has a dual-nature as a maternal goddess and punisher...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perchta

The one in the game is IMO more like a follower of her cult.

https://youtu.be/xNHOsmBumYg

I was hoping for the lore to give teasers to things like the next map location, Mr. Chary creating new monsters (IE: the new boss), or potential new Questlines or new features we could anticipate. The only thing that it seems to tease is AHA reaching out to further chapters and new members... which just maybe justifies more folklore based Legendary Hunters. :/

[rotund ferry]

So I guess goddess Perchta is the leader of Grounded pact

And Perchta character in this game her follower

Very interesting

I think now we understand pacts better; (this is just my opinion)

Mr Charry and his creation Ochenkov, infernal pact, filled with evil hunters

Moon and her champion Kevin Linus, lunar pact, filled with good hunters

Goddess Perchta and her follower Perchta hunter, grounded pact, filled with good - bad - neutural hunters

https://youtu.be/UNwh6izy9No

It's really interesting, these pacts just seem like sides to me, maybe not soo clear 😄

Can't wait to see more story for this game 😄

[rotund ferry]

Just saw a explanation comment for this film as well, (Spoiler alert.)

So I would say lunar pact is ''the good'' here, Kevin Linus probably gonna learn that the thing he follows not good therefore gonna be enemy to that thing

The bad here is Mr Charry, Mr Charry basically tortures & kills innocent people for his own interests, Mr Charry wants to stop moon, but tries to do this in a way it hurts countless innocent lives so to me Mr Charry wants to gain powers of Moon somehow

[heady tree]

I wouldn't go so far as to say any Gods are involved. I think the Pacts are more akin to gangs fighting for dominance, following some prophetic-like ideologies and manipulating supernatural abilities that already exist in the paranormal bayou.

However the Hunters that were selected for each Pact seem really strange... for example why are the Pinkertons wanting to help Mr. Chary?

[rotund ferry]

So even if Moon is a evil thing and even if Mr Charry wants to stop moon, it doesn't seem like Mr Charry wants to stop moon and save these lands since Mr Charry uses magic powers and probably wants to use more, so Mr Charry probably gonna try to become moon kind of thing

And in lore it says that Kevin Linus didn't even killed 1 innocent person(while Mr Charry killed countless amounts of innocent person) so I think if Moon is evil Kevin Linus gonna learn this and fight against moon with intentions of saving these sick lands

And grounded pact here is ugly, cuz grounded pact seems to be here for money, like grounded pact doesn't really care to stop good guys or bad guys, just want money

[heady tree]

If anything I think Grounded are people who want neither side to win... Hunters invested in a continued survival without any belief in False Prophets or Demonology. Carcass Gunrunner & William Moses... seem like people wanting to just maintain whatever life they have...

[rotund ferry]

Well unlike other sides I don't think grounded thinks too much for future

Like grounded here to get what money they can get till they can't

If Mr Charry wants to become next moon, then Mr Charry also want's to keep these monsters there

If Kevin Linus learns that moon is evil then Kevin might want to end moon and save these lands

But there is another suprise, Moon corrupted half of the kevin linus body

Have you watched Kevin Linus & false saint trailer?

In that trailer moon sometimes controls half part of Kevin Linus body

Kevin struggles to control blue-gray-black part of his body

So moon tries to manipulate & control mind and body of Kevin

[heady tree]

But really I think the Pact locked characters were almost randomly chosen because key story characters from previous events weren't dictated a Pact despite prior alliances.

[rotund ferry]

If Grounded pact tries to stop others from saving these sick lands then grounded pact also would be a reason why these monsters stay there, but grounded pact is simply filled with hunters that open to do anything to gain money so maybe grounded pact can work for good or bad for money so unlike other sides grounded pact seems to be more neutural ground where they can do many things

And grounded pact can't work with Mr Charry cuz they probably wouldn't want to keep these monsters there forever, and grounded pact can't work with Kevin Linus cuz Kevin doesn't kill innocent people so grounded pact doing good things even with killing innocents wouldn't work for Kevin Linus

[heady tree]

Is that the latest posting one? I haven't had the chance yet.

[rotund ferry]

https://youtu.be/KoL1GTcRvvg

Definately reccomended

Trailers & cinematics of this game very cool 😄

Also I think these powers are gainable by humans, I don't think moon is a alien, I think moon is a human that gained these powers

Moon had so many other hunter options, but for some reason moon choosed Kevin as her champion, and choosed Kevin when he was a kid, this means moon probably knew that kids are more easy to manipulate, and to know this thing perhaps moon was a human too

Thinking about lore is truly a different thing, there is just too much door to put all kinds of meanings 😄

Even the eyes of Kevin linus seems to be different, perhaps this also means moon tries to control what Kevin sees as well

Kevin Linus is called as a saint, a follower of good god & goddess, but if that god & godess evil then Kevin Linus become a false saint

[heady tree]

Where do you think the AHA's allegiance lays?

[rotund ferry]

I think the nick name for Kevin Linus also points that moon isn't a good entitiy

[rotund ferry]

I'm still very new to the game, what is Aha?

[neat juniper]

American hunter association

The most prevalent organisation

[heady tree]

American Hunters Association... It's pretty central to Hunt's lore.

[neat juniper]

Humanity/ mr.chary

Somewhere between those two

[rotund ferry]

Ah now it looked more familier, these are probably human side then

These are non-supernatural side

All these pacts seems to be supernatural sides

[neat juniper]

Mainly because mr.chary's official plan is to kill sculptor and he is a manager of aha

[rotund ferry]

Mr Charry has corrupt power I think

On aha

[neat juniper]

Well not particularly
He was just kinda
Main manager, vice-president of aha before their leader died

[rotund ferry]

I mean a character like Mr Charry always come from high power places

[neat juniper]

So they trust him more than just an outsider

[rotund ferry]

Have you watched snow piercer?

[neat juniper]

I know memes about it

[rotund ferry]

Mr Charry reminds me the main evil character of snow piercer & netflix one

Mr Charry seems like a very good manipulator, seduces you, makes a deal with you but he doesn't give and he only takes things from you always

Like even Ochenkov stiuation he promised to heal her husband

But made her kill her husband instead

And took her soul too

[neat juniper]

Honestly that sounds like a skill issue on ochenkov's part, heal and kill sounds very simular

[rotund ferry]

😄

[neat juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-gif-4908381

[rotund ferry]

Haha

You see Mr Charry even makes us defend him as well 😄

That's the level of manipulation he has 😄

[neat juniper]

Oh no, he doesn't
I am just pledged to infernal

[rotund ferry]

Ah 😄

[neat juniper]

Or i mean he does if i do defend him

Hm

What a sneaky snake

[rotund ferry]

Haha yeah, always look for your back there mate 😄

Mr Charry will take when there is something to take 😄

[neat juniper]

Can i be manipulated if i know i am being manipulated but still doing what's best for chaty

🤔

[rotund ferry]

Well, if you started to work for my charry without being manipulated then it's your choice 😄

But if he get you with manipulations then it's hardly your choice id say 😄

[neat juniper]

Yes, surely i am not being manipulated
Surely :>

[rotund ferry]

But yeah the important thing is knowing if you're manipulated or not 😄

I guess if you knew that Mr Charry will do anything to anyone before you even met him and you're not bothered with the possibility of he taking your soul, etc then you probably didn't start to follow him by getting manipulated 😄

The moon likely manipulated Kevin into pledging to lunar and recruiting others to do the same

We've had a discussion like this before but there really isn't any good or bad in hunt there's just people and entities each with their own agenda

[rotund ferry]

If you see the truth and make your own choices according to truth then I don't think you get manipulated 😄

[rotund ferry]

It's just my opinions really, to me there are some good & bad & neutural hunters & pacts 😄

I mean you're certainly right there's people who try to do good but it's important to remember that everyone is also capable of doing the bad too

And this is why to me the real good is that knowing you can do bad but always trying to choose doing good 😄

Yeah but sometimes to do good you gotta get your hands dirty and do a little bad

[neat juniper]

What about sculptor who wants to invade our world

[rotund ferry]

I mean in the end it's hunters choice that what kind of dirt their hands gets 😄

Taking another life from someone is the ultimate sin and there's no two ways about it. Murder is simply wrong but I'd wager that every single legendary hunter at this point and time has indeed committed that very crime

[neat juniper]

Murder is a solution to overpopulation

[rotund ferry]

I still follow Kevin Linus cuz he came this far without killing a 1 innocent person, but this doesn't mean he didn't killed evil hunters

[neat juniper]

Idk what you mad about

[rotund ferry]

In real life I would see good - bad more scientifically & differentely, but in this game's universe I just see more good & bad sides cuz game stories can't be fully complex like real life stories 😄

[heady tree]

Nearly every Legendary Hunter is really just a murder hobo...

[rotund ferry]

So simplification is needed for game stories and I just try to look more simply for this reason 😄

[rotund ferry]

Yeah but that's what I'm saying, when it comes down to it Kevin will take life and regardless of who or what that life belonged to it's still a sin to do so but in the end wherever there is sin there's redemption and when Kevin is gone and finally at rest the good he's done in his lifetime will likely outweigh the bad and he'll see his ma and pa again in the afterlife

[rotund ferry]

Well I don't think this game follows real life religions that much :D, I kinda don't put real life religions to this game too much personally

[rotund ferry]

"The game doesn't follow real life religions that much."

Reverend
Hail Mary
Devil's advocate

It's still a different universe version tho

Like supernatural things happens and you expect their religions being fully copy of ours? 😄

The universe is literally the same as ours just with cryptid paranormal phenomenons

Half of this game has realism theme and half of this game has magic theme

I wouldn't really call it magic but sure

I see this game different than our world therefore I see their religion not copy to ours

And in the end let's just agree to disagree cuz these are just my opinions 😅

This game is very reminiscent of something like Resident evil there's drugs that literally turn people into superhuman hunters and there's this "infection" that spreads and turns people into monsters

Real world setting, fictional elements

[heady tree]

It's kind of a historical re-write... but of course many religions would have different interpretations if the dead were walking the earth and people were being tortured into monsterous beings. For the sake of a game just being a game though, let's not involve real-life beliefs in a fantasy world discussion.

[rotund ferry]

Close to real world, but doesn't have to follow everything same to real world

[rotund ferry]

Agreed, I was trying to think like if I was in this game's universe and not in this real life's universe

[rotund ferry]

I'm just saying that in a game that's as historically inspired as hunt there's obviously going to be intense themes like religion and politics and if you pay attention you can absolutely see that fact

[rotund ferry]

I'll accept that fact when I see a real life copy of bible in this game that says same things with real life bible 😄

I think you guys are misunderstanding that I'm trying to make an argument about religion I'm just pointing out contributing themes for the game 😂

😅

[heady tree]

Most religious Hunters are also noted in their biopics to have gone beyond the parameters of their beliefs, and into a sort of self-propelled zealotry.

[rotund ferry]

The Night of the hunt are definitely zealots but their belief stems from the idea that the monsters that they hunt caused by the infection are holy which is why you see them decorate their guns and clothing with the body parts and blood of monsters

[heady tree]

Yeah, I have no problem discussing it but the moment someone gets offended about a religion's representation in a game I gotta stop. Honestly, the flaws of faith are usually worse in real history than any video game's lore.

[rotund ferry]

Well, as an agnostic I would say that people understand these religions in all ways therefore do all kinds of things, so same things happen in game story too but yeah in real life understanding a religion wrongly becomes much more crazy, especially if a country gets rulled by that religion while understanding that religion wrongly, but yeah this is a much different topic for sure and I think it gets bit more offensive if I get in more so yeah I'll stop here :D.

[rotund ferry]

Meanwhile Mary Burgess was a Nun who was excommunicated because she murdered someone
And the Reverend witnessed the first days of the infection firsthand during his time in the Stillwater Bayou at one of the Churches.
Both now assume the role of hunter I don't see either of them as self-propelled zealots but more individuals who still hold their desired faith strong but are rather unorthodox about it especially when compared with others of their faith.

[heady tree]

I remember when the Penitent came out and some dude threw a fit on the forums and most people couldn't decide if he was trolling or being serious.

[rotund ferry]

The Penitent is also religious yeah, He believes in the idea of self flagellation

One very common example of self flagellation was seen during the black plague outbreak in 1347

Which is evidently where some of the inspiration for the penitent legendary hunter likely came from

Of course back in 1347 they didn't have barbed wire so I'm sure The Penitent is very happy to use that invention for his mischief

Oh yeah and I can't forget Dr. John, Felis and the Weird sister who all devote themselves to Voodoo and it's teachings which to some is also a form of religious practice but I've also seen Voodoo described as a form of extreme science and theory but to me it feels more religious

Honestly I love the legendary hunters and I wish Crytek would do more to elaborate on their story maybe even making some kind of animated shorts for them

[heady tree]

Well, I think an unorthodox continuation of a faith, especially when compared to Orthodox norms falls under zealotry.
Zealotry :fanatical and uncompromising pursuit of religious, political, or other ideals; fanaticism.
But potātoe/poTAtoe... I think we both see them as outside the normal connotations of their beliefs.

[heady tree]

I'd love to see Questlines to unlock more lore & costume variants for all the Legendary Hunters.

[signal bluff]

Hey guys just Curious about Boss names.
I know the assassin human name was Vincent. What are the other bosses names

[noble scarab]

Scrapbeak was Avis Wyndham Sr, the butcher was just a big meathead, the spider is made of a bunch of unnamed people

[edgy aspen]

The Spider main face is a young girl IIRC, but I don't know if a name was ever revealed.

[zealous token]

I thought one of the documents for Spider mentioned a doctor who was in the trio that became the spider, or am I just thinking of the person who submitted the reports on the spider?

[noble scarab]

There was a doctor in the party, but i can't recall if he was stated to become a part of the spider or not

[narrow vigil]

The one spider they saw being created from the mass grave had the face of a girl yeah, but I think the lore implies there are/can be many more than just one Spider

[misty sigil]

Just read the Assassins mastery entries. So Vincent seemingly already had certain supernatural abilities he could use before “turning“. Is he able to shapeshift to a human or do you think he transformed completely?

[narrow vigil]

I'd like to think he went full in to the possession after some time and now is stuck in his form/bound by Sculptor, but Im not entirely sure

[rotund ferry]

Yeah I believe there's multiple spiders because essentially they're just creatures primarily comprised of bodies in the shape of an arachnid

I'm assuming the Sculptor is able to produce more than one

Same with assassins because they're a collection of bugs and insects

Butcher I'm unsure of if you look closely butcher has the same leeches burrowed inside of him similar to meat heads so there's definitely a connection there maybe butcher(s?) are in fact just buffed up meat heads?

And Scrapbeak is a singular unique individual who was corrupted and turned into a monster and I believe the plague doctor legendary hunter was the one who gave him the metal legs and the whole crow motif he's got going

[upbeat kiln]

That is literally what they are. They are the corpse of a meathead, hollowed out and attached to a mould of clay. The entirety of its body covered in a brilliantly effective fireproof coating. A blacksmith's apron around it, and a pig's head sewn on top of the whole glorious mess.

got the best comment about that a couple of months ago lol

hang on

still makes me laugh haha

[rotund ferry]

Interesting

Makes sense

So does that mean that butchers are a racial minority since there are more meat heads without the head of a pig mounted on top of them?

[upbeat kiln]

no only that. he is also the only meathead, that actually has a head

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-gif-11131691

[neat juniper]

And that head, coincidentally, is made out of meat

Thus making him true meathead

[upbeat kiln]

Double mindblown

[cold idol]

Are we... Meatheads?

[rotund ferry]

Always have been

[upbeat kiln]

Hey, fellow lore lovers. I have made a post in #media for a reddit page, where I'm currently looking for people who wants to submit fanfiction. If it sounds like something you would be interested in. Go take a look ❤️

[proper latch]

Sounds super interesting, if I get the motivation I may do some lore stuff for enemies, Im all about the spookies

[neat juniper]

Get emoted on, scrub

[upbeat kiln]

emote me baby ❤️

[cold idol]

You like that, don't you you dirty little double pistols user?

[rotund ferry]

I'd totally love too! ❤️
...but reddit 😕

[lunar sky]

Lore accurate representation of the AHA telling new hunters that they need an injection before they enter the bayou

[rotund ferry]

It's just a small pox vaccination

[lunar sky]

Lmao

[sharp thicket]

anyone wanna summarize the lore for me?

[noble scarab]

TLDR Cthulhu vs cowboys but both are stupid

Also checkout @upbeat kiln for better and more informative content

[sharp thicket]

alr

[upbeat kiln]

That pretty much nailed it though hahaha

[cold idol]

Do we have lore on the beatles?

https://tenor.com/view/the-beatles-cowboy-riding-yeehaw-paul-mccartney-gif-17546850

Not these guys

The stalker kind

We know some beekeeper hunter guy breeds them

[rotund ferry]

Pretty much sums them up

They're little byproducts of the infection that hunters take advantage of by breeding them in captivity although despite their aggressive appearance even finding one on the side of a tree in the wild they're quite docile until you direct one of them to explode on an enemy hunter

Essentially the beetles double as a Kamikaze UAV insect

The life of a stalker beetle is tragic, they are bred, born and blown to pieces when all they want to do is live peacefully as little bumps on trees

[idle umbra]

okay so I just finished the event story and like ||I mean is that it? so did the kill Chary or not? are they leaving an open-ended and it's going to be finished in a different event? I mean they made a whole thing about this being where it's ended and Mr Chary isn't even who you get the bonuses from anymore but like I feel like it didn't really conclude all that unless I'm missing something. I mean there's the song which is chapter 15 which I guess implies they got rid of them but I don't know. kind of felt like it climaxed in chapter 8 and then nothing really happened. anyone got any thoughts?||

[rotund ferry]

||Mrs. Ochenkov prevented Kevin Linus from killing Mr. Chary by plunging her fist through his chest and squeezing his heart. None of this matters because Mr. Chary has invulnerability unless he comes into contact with this special herb when it's burned and the Moon and Sculptor will just keep resurrecting Kevin for as long as they need to. To best explain it Kevin Linus is like the lunar's paranormal super soldier and Mrs. Ochenkov is infernal's paranormal super soldier. They'll fight until they either exhaust themselves to extinction or destroy everything around them. The lunar pact already burned half of Louisana trying to draw out Mr. Chary which succeeded until Infernal pact showed up to defend their boss.||

[idle umbra]

||yeah I got all that I just mean like is that where the story ends then? just generally that they're going to keep fighting each other? seems open-ended I wonder if they'll bring it back in another event is what they're thinking||

[untold blaze]

||This may just me being a pessimist, but they’ll probably just keep continuing it long as it makes ‘em money||

[rotund ferry]

||well the point is it's a cliff hanger||

[junior pecan]

Cliff hangers don’t make good finales

[empty owl]

think its another "sequel" hook

[rotund ferry]

You're preaching to the converted

Cliff hangers when done right are great and all like Empire strikes back but in this case it's not really great at all

They advertised Devil's moon as the finale to a three part event deal but it actually just turns out to be another continuation

[rotund ferry]

They could've done something different like ||after Mrs. Ochenkov kills Kevin someone else like Dr. John or something shows up and deals the killing blow on Mr. Chary. It's weird how they've set up and explained that Dr. John is this type of person who knows about Chary's abilities and his weakness but he never contributes more than just telling Lunar gang how to deal with the problem via burning the herb. It's also weird how during the inferno firefight when everyone stops to see Kevin tearing into Chary's skull they don't do anything about Mrs. Ochenkov approaching Kevin in the first place and they just let her "kill" him.||

||I feel like it would've made more sense for Chary to have died this event and then have Kevin step up as the new indirect baddie of hunt since he's got obvious connections with the moon who in turn has connections with the Sculptor.||

[noble scarab]

thats happened at least twice before

mr chary is a saturday morning mustache twirling cartoon villain

nothing more

[rotund ferry]

I know I wish he was more than that

I can certainly appreciate a villain who is evil purely for the sake of being evil but I'd be lying if I said I didn't love villains with a motive that is relatable or even sympathetic

Although at that point they're less of a villain and more of just a antagonist to the protagonist

[fossil tide]

Probably a dumb question, but how accurate are the pact alignments for the DLC Hunters? I don't know much about the lore, but The Inferno pact has some characters that seem to be good people, despite the pact being the villains

[proper latch]

If I'm recalling previous people's explanations the infernal pact isn't full of just villains, some are just people who stuck with Chary because of the payroll, maybe loyal to the Aha? And I'd imagine like.. The lunar pact alternative sounds mega sketchy when described to people, "hey our boy is a soldier of the moon."

[vernal stag]

Official post says "Mr. Chary, was rich. Mr. Chary was powerful. And Mr. Chary had given out a lot of favors. When the time came to choose a side, many stayed with the AHA for the money, for the power, and to clear their debts. Some stayed because they had a history with the association, and others stayed because they refused to fight by the side of their enemies. Mr. Chary assured all that they would be paid handsomely for their loyalty, and his word was as good as gold."

[proper latch]

Ty for the real answer

[fossil tide]

Yeppers. Thank you

[rotund ferry]

Every pact has the good the bad and the ugly

[humble ridge]

I want to get new pages unlocks just after the patch. Who with me?

[cold idol]

Felis is in the every pact, huh?

[humble ridge]

Springfield Model 1866 Poison Ammo

[cold idol]

How come you have so many BBs?

[humble ridge]

I am playing a lot and buying only event related content. Also I am playing the objective, so I often receive BB bonuses from mission.

[rotund ferry]

Nah Felis isn't in a Pact but technically since she has ties with Dr. John and since Dr. John has ties with Kevin Linus that'd make Felis lunar pact

[cold idol]

I asked rachtaZ to drop new guns lore here

He's probably going to do it soon

Its not like he's going to forget, right?

[devout cedar]

Ive got all

ill post soon

[humble ridge]

Caldwell Pax Poison Ammo

[devout cedar]

Bomb Lance Ammo

Lemat Carbine

Krag Ammo

Springfield Krag

Centennial Trauma

Martini Ironside

I think thats all, mods pls dont destroy me for spamming

[burnt storm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-house-will-ferrell-axe-gif-8225033

[humble ridge]

There is also Pax FMJ

[devout cedar]

yes

I swear I will make full album of book of weapons lore

one day

Pax FMJ

[neat juniper]

Rachta the chad

Comes in with the clutch i

I'll advocate for your spamming, brother

[noble scarab]

My brother in Christ is that a reference to trump

[rotund ferry]

Lmao I think it is

Ironically the former US president wasn't Catholic he was Protestant

[cold idol]

Well, I dont think he grabbed anyone by the 😺

So it's vague if it is really him

So, Sofia and LuLu love the antichrist

Jack is a crooked cop

Did he die in prison break?

Charred journal and all

[rotund ferry]

Lulu sure but Sofia?

Sofia feels more Roman Catholic to me since Mexico has a pretty dominant Roman Catholic community dating all the way back 1521 when the Spanish Empire landed on it's shores

Plus Sofia's character and her weapons have that Dia De Los Muertos motif which is a holiday that is celebrated primarily by Christians, Protestants and Catholics alike

[rotund ferry]

I think Jack is a crooked cop not because he's a villain but it's a tactic to get information and get paid

His character description pretty much sums up how he does detective work

He feels like your generic Al Capone gangster era New Yorker detective

[restive patrol]

He's a Pinkerton, ofc he'll be crooked, he's getting paid to get information by any means necessary (they removed any mention of them being Pinkertons cause Crytek is scared of lawsuits, eventhough Rockstar already went to court over "fair use" of Pinkerton and won) #latest-update-discussion message

[rotund ferry]

Yeah but Rockstar is much bigger and probably better equipped for lawsuits than Crytek is

It's better to play your cards right and be cautious about stuff like that

[cold idol]

Well, they did carve reverse cross on a guy's chest

[cold idol]

At least he covers up AHA's atrocities expecting to be paid

[cold idol]

Can't even call people pinkertons in a western

Maybe next time they should think twice before firebombing someone's house

[untold blaze]

The reverse cross is actually a symbol of Catholicism

The St.Peters cross

[cold crater]

I was apart of all three moon events but never read any of the chapters besides devils moon, can anyone give me a simple recap of what “traitors moon is about” and “serpents moon”?

Or should I just watch a YouTube video about it all

[untold blaze]

He got crucified that way because he didn’t feel he was worthy of being crucified in the same way as Jesus

[cold idol]

Yeah, when it's cut on people's dead torsos it's safe to assume it's satanic cross

[rotund ferry]

One of the guys who killed Sofia's parents?

[cold idol]

Probably?

It's getting hard to count with all her later lore

A lot of people seems to have killed her parents

[rotund ferry]

So wouldn't that solidify my claim that Sofia is religious? Seems a bit excessive to take the time to carve a upside down cross on a corpse of a loved one just for the shits, I think whoever killed Sofia's parents wanted to offend her as much as physically possible

[rotund ferry]

You get used to it

I think reap what you sow had her farm raided or something

Pretty much every hunter in the game has a gritty brutal dark and dramatic back story

But what makes it unique is every single character comes from a different background

[cold idol]

Uhh, redneck never did anything wrong ever

[rotund ferry]

Probably laundered money for Moses Poltry

[cold idol]

As I said, never did anything wrong

[cold idol]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-lick-tongue-tongue-out-tongue-wiggle-gif-16390888

LuLu whenever she sees Sofia

[rotund ferry]

Is the lesbian thing actually Canon?

[cold idol]

Read scottfield lore

[cold idol]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Scottfield_Model_3

[rotund ferry]

So is that a yes?

[cold idol]

Let me quote

[rotund ferry]

The definition "A classic, single-action break open revolver, the Scottfield has seen both sides of the law. The break action allows for quicker ejecting of spent rounds, meaning a faster overall reload when empty. Can be used for dual wielding. Fanning - Faster rate-of-fire when using single-action pistols" doesn't exactly answer my question

[cold idol]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hunthorrorsofthegildedage_gamepedia/images/7/71/Scottfieldprecision2.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20220505021719

It's implied

[rotund ferry]

Lmfao

Just learn Español stupid

She's literally getting taco blocked by a fucking language barrier 😂

[cold idol]

Candice Rouille left New York with her badge, her mentor, and an unbreakable will to uncover the truth in Louisiana. All three would be taken from her

[empty owl]

yeup, hawksaw is canonically dead

[cold idol]

Taken too soon

He was canonically alive for like two paragraphs

[rough ridge]

Whoa what's this from

Is it lulu saying this?

Oh its scottfield lore

[cold idol]

😐

[untold blaze]

Reading that lore was actually quite interesting

Really good romance novel type writing with the romance bits

[rotund ferry]

It's really not great romance at all it's more like someone crushing on someone else

Feels more like lust than love but plenty of one night stands have developed genuine affectionate love for individuals

Basically what I'm saying is it could be the start of something

[untold blaze]

Oh definitely more lust than love

But hey, I personally enjoy it

[rough ridge]

The weapon journals are honestly excellently written

what happened to the writers when writing the event lore

[untold blaze]

Dude, I know, right?

Like, weapons lore is fantastic

But event lore ain’t that good

[rough ridge]

Weapon lore is perfectly enigmatic and compelling to the imagination

event lore is cringey and i actively grimace reading it

[untold blaze]

Event lore feels like some edgy early 2000’s Prototype style games writing

[restive patrol]

not just cringey, it just came out of left field, with no buildup nor connective tissue to previously established lore (where tf are the twins, why's the moon alive all of a sudden, where's the sculptor, what happened to the previous factions (Hardin's, Reverend's, Doctor John's, etc etc) + with subpar writing (How did they escape Kingsnake Mine, why did the moon pick Kevin, why's Kevin all of a sudden so op, even though he's just a "kid")

[noble scarab]

the moon has canonically fucked, thats all you need

[empty owl]

that is true

i think what's wrong with the lore is the fact that it sometimes deviates greatly from the book of arms entries as it focuses on the event happening around the bayou and not exploits of individuals that are already famous in-lore, i do agree with the fact that the whole thing feels haphazardly written in order to have some kind of subtext towards what's happening with the event

i also think that mr chary being killed off by kevin and kevin being impaled by the widow to end the moon trilogy would be the logical conclusion but they chose not to in order to further an already flawed storyline

[cold idol]

Well, they do kill together

[vernal stag]

And it's extra strange imo, that the new entries don't try to recon anything. They're saying the Twins and Lynch exist. We have to except that that lore is going to be added onto.

[noble scarab]

They might be backtracking a bit by re-adding in references to Lynch and the twins

[untold blaze]

Why don’t they just add the twins and lynch as like, event hunters

[neat juniper]

Would literally be too op

[untold blaze]

Fair

Cause why not add a character or two that we actually have like, a shitton of lore on

Nah, just add a motherfucker that looks like he’s playing the Bass for Ghost.

[rotund ferry]

You ever see a movie called Point break?

The strongest bonds are often forged by bloodshed

[deep flower]

Does anyone have or know a good recap of the lore of devils moon. I didnt pay nearly enough attention.

[noble scarab]

The aha dissolved, our boy kev died, got rezzed, and chary ran off to do more mustache twirling elsewhere

[deep flower]

Any developments moon-wise?

[noble scarab]

Nope

[cold crater]

Any updates of plague doctor lore

aside from him creating scrapbeak

[cold idol]

There was lore about him screating scrapbeak?

And no

[cold crater]

In the trailer for scrapbeak it shows the soldier lying on a table (scrapbeak before transformation) and a person standing beside him, you can see that person's silhouette is plague doctor

Unless im wrong and plague doctor only helped create pegs for the soldier who lost his legs in the civil war

The only 2 outcomes i can think of is that soldier became an experiment for plague doctor to create a monster, or within the 32 year time skip something happened to the soldier which caused him to become scrapbeak

[cold idol]

Uh, I think it was just a model stand-in

For a doctor

[upbeat kiln]

@upbeat kiln that was just the model being used for the trailer. It has been confirmed by Crytek to be unrelated to the plague doctor. It is not the only instance of characters being used "out of place." Apparently what goes on visually in the trailers are not canon in a lot of cases

[noble scarab]

I think they should’ve modified the doctor grunt to use in that case, but I bet they wanted some mileage out of the plague doc

[empty owl]

i do find it extremely odd that the private investigators got dragged into the infernal act more than anything else, they were there in desalle and the only who survived was private eye. Even then there's literally zero indication of them working with chary or committing nefarious acts, they were just there for their investigation into the pelican island prison and nothing else

i am more surprised that the the viper didn't join in on kevin's group, they were just there on the last event and gone poof like a ghost

[noble scarab]

i guess the investigator lady kinda knew Hardin, and Hardin followed Chary/the AHA so she just stayed with him

thats about the only justification we got

[earnest jungle]

If I were to hazard a guess this Bishop either a) was involved in the murder of Lulu’s Family, or b) did the bad thing to Lulu that Billy Story also did but we’re not allowed to mention in this discord.

If I had a nickels for every lesbian couple in Hunt Showdown I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s nice that there’s two

[earnest jungle]

I thought the devs confirmed they were just reusing the skin?

Or am I thinking of the Reverend from Dark in New Orleans?

[cold crater]

Oh ok that’s a bummer :/, I kinda wish we had more plague doctor lore

[cold crater]

Yeah I just found that out nvm

[neat juniper]

Man's pinging himself
I respect the grind

[cold idol]

I'm pretty sure in that one Lulu diary it wasn't Billy Story

It was just another Billy

[upbeat kiln]

wth I didn't even notice.. sitting here online talking to myself hahaha

[rotund ferry]

Lulu and Sofia aren't a couple. Lulu keeps getting blocked by a language barrier, if Lulu could speak Español they totally would be but right now Lulu and Sofia are two lesbians who can't even make it to 1st base

[cold idol]

No, that's the wrong take.

You forget that there is body language everyone understands

[cold idol]

So, there's a slang for hitting someone with a barrel of a gun

Buffalo

How does it work?

"I buffalod him in the testicles"?

[upbeat kiln]

Ngl that sounds like something you'd have to pay extra for lol

[cold idol]

I mean, how do you say it

[heady tree]

Pistol-whipped? Butt-stocked? Rifle-jacked?

Gun-butted?

Has anyone made a timeline or dynamic web for character lore interactions?

[rotund ferry]

It's objectively correct. Learning the language of your significant other not only shows that you care but also allows for easier communication because as you said there is body language that is universally understood but that only gets you so far in a romantic relationship scenario

I think in future event content or lore entries we could see Sofia teaching Lulu Español. I think that'd give the reader some pretty worthwhile interactions between the two characters

Lulu making honest mistakes on pronunciation and Sofia scolding her softly but also compassionately correcting her in a loving manner etc

[cold idol]

No, how to use buffalo word this way

[cold idol]

They clearly aren't in love, she's just lusting after her

Judging by Ironside lore, they eventually get all touchy-feely regardless

[heady tree]

'It’s got me buffaloed.’

We can safely infer the meaning of buffalo (v.) here as synonymous with stumped or perplexed. But the word has a range of subtly related senses that come from our perceptions of the animal’s nature. The OED defines it as North American slang meaning ‘to overpower, overawe, or constrain by superior force or influence; to outwit, perplex’. Its first citation is from the Cincinnati Enquirer, 1903.

It doesn't appear to have a direct use in terms of firearms.

[icy brook]

Mosin Nagant users finding a way to make their rifle a viable weapon (the bolt has been stuck for days)

[rotund ferry]

When I said Lulu and Sofia weren't a couple you said that's the wrong take

[rotund ferry]

🤓

[earnest jungle]

The Scottfield Entries make it very clear that they're a couple, Sofia calls Lulu her love in Spanish when she was broken out of the DeSalle jail by Lulu.

[rotund ferry]

Yeah but now I'm confused because the other guy said it's the wrong take but now saying they aren't a couple

[earnest jungle]

Sorry I misremembered she called her "My Lady of Death" which still sounds pretty affectionate for someone who's "just friends"

[rotund ferry]

They kill a lot of people together

[icy brook]

Historians be like: they were best buddies who lived together and were always seen in public together

[rotund ferry]

Historians are the only group of people who don't ship

And that's definitely a good thing lol

[earnest jungle]

Just based on the way they're described and how protective Sofia is of Lulu and how physically affectionate they are with each other I feel confident in describing them as a couple.

Then again lesbians are famously inept at picking up on when women are flirting with them (joking)

[rotund ferry]

I still wouldn't call them a couple just because they seem to be flirting but that's not to say they won't be a couple at all

[cold idol]

I think they can be a couple without talking

Lulu not speaking spanish doesn't stop them

[icy brook]

I mean Cain probably can’t even speak English and he obviously fucks so I don’t see an issue

[cold idol]

I think in realities of Hunt: Showdown, it's important to note sins for what they are

[rotund ferry]

I guess but it certainly helps to speak the language they speak

[tall vigil]

There are a plethora of ways to communicate without speech, I assure you. Even then, it allows us the opportunity of cute fanart of them trying to teach the other their respective language. Imagine the gay possibilities!

[cold idol]

Well, it is implied that hunter teams can communicate without speaking

I think

Something of a pack instinct

[junior pecan]

Muzzle thumped is what I’ve heard from american military circles, but I imagine it varies there as well.

There’s also pistol whipping and buttstroking

But these aren’t synonyms, just related terms.

[noble scarab]

Also come on crytek, give us Cain lore. Put him in an event, let him mumble some caveman words, or give us a character piece on Cain hunting someone.

[rotund ferry]

Oh for sure I'm not discrediting the numerous different ways that a person can communicate I'm just saying learning the language of the person you're trying to communicate with certainly makes it easier to communicate with them.

[rotund ferry]

If I'm correct the only lore we have of Cain is the character description along with his weapons no?

[noble scarab]

Yea that’s about it

It’s my head canon tho that he’s Lewis Desalle, gone mad and killed his brother

[rotund ferry]

That's a good theory

My head Canon is that Cain stumbles across Dr. John, Weird sister and Felis and the four of them become the ultimate Voodoo bone brigade

[tall vigil]

The one English word Cain knows is “bones”, and he shouts it whenever he says it.

[rotund ferry]

[cold idol]

Cain doesn't seem like voodoo guy

As any sensible man he know to not mess with the voodoo, that shit's real

[empty owl]

he's going for that obvious caveman aesthetic i think

100% not voodooun

[narrow vigil]

I wonder if the Frau Perchta / Grounded Pact Self rez trailer implies that 1) most of the legendary hunters are dead by the time Mr Chary stuff is going on, or 2) their essence/soul/whatever is stuck in some sort of limbo because of the demon juice injection things even if they're still alive

Or maybe it's just for the trailer coolness and it doesnt mean anything

[cold idol]

I think it's coolness

[noble scarab]

It’s a limbo, becoming a hunter permanently splits the soul, causing some of it to be trapped on the other side, and what’s left seems to rot over time

[rotund ferry]

I don't think hunters actually die they just sit in purgatory until the soul either rots or is brought back to the other side

[hoary kindle]

What is the Papal state doing if they are doing anything in regards to the the bayou

[cold idol]

Most likely they have no idea

Or they do have an idea, but have no control over it whatsoever

They might still send an agent or two

[mental iris]

Hey guys I dont mean to start a fire here, but are Viper and Lulu a part of the LGBTQ community? I haven't seen any official page stating they are.

[icy brook]

The short answer is yes

[cold idol]

Not sure what LGBTQ community defines, but LuLu sure is gunning to be the first to find Sofia's wellspring, if you catch my drift

As for Viper, he doesn't seem to be much of a person

[mental iris]

Lol

Yeah its weird because theirs's no official word from the DEVS, no lore confirmation, no flag or colors. Its not featured in LGBTQ game playlist in June. Unlike say APEX where its explicitly stated or obvious.

Oh well, Ill just drop it. I know for a fact if it was, it would be brought into the spotlight like so many other things nowadays. Thanks Crytek

[cold idol]

There is a lot of lore confirmation, but there sure wont be flags and colors, this isn't twitter

Through she preferred the fairer sex, Lulu Bassett got by taking men to her bed.

Literally in character description

[untold blaze]

I second this, considering that I doubt the rainbow flag was a gay icon back in like, the 1890’s and stuff

[rotund ferry]

The LGBTQ community didn't exist in 1891 so the answer would be no but in my own personal opinion I believe anyone who is gay, lesbian etc can love whoever they want without being apart of any community. In short when I see a lesbian couple or gay couple I just see two individuals that love each other that's simple enough for me.

[dusky kindle]

Not correct. While they wouldn't have called themselves lgbtq community, they would still have been part of that group. they simply didn't have the same words describing that back then. you still would have had people from those walks of life finding each other.
Also kinda weird you feel like having to justify that you don't mind queer folk existing :P

[cold idol]

So the gaslighting starts

[empty owl]

the viper is non-binary and lulu is a confirmed lesbian, although i do agree that there won’t be any flags in the game as a part of its cowboy aesthetics, in the 1890s gay cowboys/cowgirls are actually quite common amongst the people living in the frontiers it is however poorly documented or not documented at all

kaz rowe actually got a pretty good video about the topic itself

so not exactly everything in the west back then look like john wayne films

[rotund ferry]

You're allowed to have your opinions and I'm allowed to have mine I wouldn't consider that weird at all and I'm not gonna pretend to know you so I'd like to politely ask that you don't pretend to know me and I'll leave it at that. hope you have a nice day 🙂

[icy brook]

This is true

Queerness did manifest itself in antiquity, you just need to know where to look in documents and first hand recounts

[rotund ferry]

Oh for sure I mean just look at the Greeks or Ancient Asia

Love of all forms has existed for a very long time

[misty hemlock]

what a great way to be introduced to the lore discussion channel 💀

[coral rune]

yup first time I looked in here.....

[upbeat kiln]

Alright, question for the real ones.. What are the "blue books" the lore talks about in the context of Billy Story?

[neat juniper]

Books that are blue

[upbeat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/abeeo-write-that-down-gif-21386042

[proper latch]

Which entry was that? For the blue books?

[noble scarab]

His bio

[rotund ferry]

If Morrowind has taught me anything it's that some books are better left unread

Also I think Billy Story is actually Crassius Curio

[cold idol]

Probably just his Hardin/Monroe shipping fanfic

I do agree we're better off not knowing

[rotund ferry]

The Lusty Argonian Cowboy

[cold idol]

Is this event lore?

[earnest jungle]

Yeah from the Serpent Moon I think

[noble scarab]

thats from devils moon, its the only time they mention Dr John

[vernal stag]

Seems like a ledger detailing the men who paid for his prostitutes.

[upbeat kiln]

lol you might be right

[upbeat kiln]

that seems like the case, yes. thank you 😄 ❤️

[cold idol]

Are you certain he's a pimp?

😐

[loud steeple]

Availability of weapons has just been chalked up to the craftiness of hunters. So I guess they were crafty enough to build a fully automatic rifle from 1917 but thought that 2 double action pistols were enough and they didn’t need to look any further

[visual finch]

I mean i still drive a car from 2006, since i've not enough money to buy something better, so it could be that

[noble scarab]

For some of them I’m sure they swear by single action or have a gun that got them out of a tough spot, so they trust it

[rotund ferry]

The Colt SAA (pax) will always be cool cowboy gun

[vernal stag]

Not certain, but considering the only time he's mentioned is in scottfield pages by lulu and his styling is clearly that of a stereotypical pimp, I'd guess that he's meant to be an Al Swearengen type

[icy brook]

Because they were cheap, easy to work on if they failed, everyone was familiar with them, and most had really nice triggers

[dusky mountain]

So what’s the lore behind poison green bee barrels? Like red is gun powder/blasting powder, and yellow is fuel for generators or such. Who are building these poison barrels for what industry?! Is there such a demand for bee jars?

[vernal stag]

Scottfield Precision refers to a Billy. If it's not him, I don't know what other character it could be referring to. Lulu and Billy Story were both twitch drop characters, so that's also making me think they're connected.

[noble scarab]

its mentioned that he wants to use Lulu for her "services" out in the Bayou, and thats the only Billy we know of that is associated with such things

[scarlet spire]

gotta keep the hive bomb industry thriving

[tardy citrus]

How to pronounce Kevin’s last name?

Is it like the tech tips guy?

[rotund ferry]

Lie-nus

[humble ridge]

It's a Cyrillic script on The Fifth Tale
Right side is just a mirrored left
Third word is definitely "вышняго", I think it's "взпомощи вышняго", so it could be Psalm 90 in Greek numeration tradition.
Close to the muzzle is old Ѣ letter.
There is also some bird with human head close to the grip.

[humble ridge]

I will take a closer look tomorrow

[viral eagle]

I want to know this aswell

[loud magnet]

The green barrels are just corrupt bees like the ones inside of the hives, on the desalle map near upper desalle there are beehives on the east side of the compund (out past the intial treeline). Safe to assume that the bees their were breed and either transported there or from there in barrels. Why they are green is probably just a gameplay aspect, or they could be traps made by hunters and put around the map. But that is pure speculation on my part.

[dusky mountain]

You would not transfer bees in barrels like that for any industry (speaking as someone who has a few hives of bees themself). They are also not really bees, more like wasps.

[loud magnet]

You asked for the lore. You got the lore plus some speculation on my part

[dusky mountain]

There was an interesting response from someone who’s message I don’t see anymore that said they were food barrels that the hives just infested, ate out, and built a nest in. Building on that idea I could assume the “bees” stained the barrels green. Also it doesn’t have to be food. It could have been like barrels of resin that attracted the “bees” with its smell that they find favorable and built nests in it. You often use certain smells when you are trying to capture wild bee hives in your bee traps.

[upbeat kiln]

Lynch was presumably the very first degenerate to put the hive's bees into jars (How she did this is beyond me though lol). She might have looked at the barrels and thought "bigger is always better"? 😄

[dusky mountain]

Safest way I’d think is put something in it that attracts them. There are also special simple traps that you could use to capture them. Like imagine a block of wood that has holes on the side for the bees to go into and one in the middle that drops them down into a mason jar. Once in the jar they can’t craw back out

[empty owl]

lynch being an internet degenerate moment?

can’t wait for her to put a doll in it or a…certain colorful horse figurine

[rotund ferry]

Lynch invented that practice that shan't be named

next you're going to tell me that Lynch runs around the bayou trying to look for Pokemon

[empty owl]

LYNCH! It's an animal, Lynch! YOU CANT!
HUFF, THERE IS NO LAWS AGAINST THE BEETLES, HUFF! I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT WITH IT!

[neat juniper]

She turned beetle into a pickle, funniest shit i've ever seen

[last lotus]

Lore behind the dolls?

[rotund ferry]

I'M GONNA DO IT HUFF!

[limpid bobcat]

huh, hunt's going the scp route I see

generally what does this mean?

what's a pact offer? the same thing that was in devil's moon

[upbeat kiln]

It means that you have to [DATA EXPUNGED]. It's really that simple.

[rotund ferry]

Lazy writing

"Oooh guys it's all mysterious and stuff because we wrote [REDACTED] over it! That's how you know it's important super secret classified gigashit information!"

Government documentation doesn't even operate like this either so it's not even believable

[upbeat kiln]

That's exactly what a government redactor would say!

[limpid bobcat]

you guys are getting me wrong

I've meant what does the pact offer mean

and the trial result

is this like a govt trial for crimes, or is this an AHA trial?

and since he got declined because he's a psycho, is this like a Kevin's pact?

[rotund ferry]

It doesn't mean anything it's literally useless lore barf that won't mean anything later on during some event

[limpid bobcat]

they've said that they're done with the moon trilogy, and IDK if devils moon pacts are still around, since chary ran away

[rotund ferry]

Or it'll be something that happens in between off the books

[limpid bobcat]

so it may be some other pacts

[rotund ferry]

It's literally the writers storytelling equivalent of a minecraft Youtuber doing some mining off camera

[rotund ferry]

Moon trilogy was terrible but Devil's moon was a good event but the story for it was also bad

Nothing actually happened to anyone

They lit some bushes on fire and played around with their guns for a bit but everyone lives or got resurrected by some entity or plot magic

Kevin did die but not really lol XDdd

Here I'll pull up the meme again

The moon is a cruel mistress just let my boy Kevin rest sheesh 😭💀💀

[limpid bobcat]

ngl that's the worst that can happen to plot: no real stakes. What's the point of doing all of this, if nothing major happens?

the story would be like a million times better if atleast 1 major character died

[upbeat kiln]

Well.. I mean.. Kevin died

again

and again

and again

[limpid bobcat]

"but in the end, it doesn't even matter"

[rotund ferry]

Damn now this is starting to feel like an Attack on titan reference

[limpid bobcat]

it was a Linkin park reference, but aot could work too

[rotund ferry]

I don't listen to Linkin Park

Attack on Titan is way more depressing than some boys singing about a marching band in the city

War is always depressing

[indigo nexus]

Tell that to a fan of LP and Soundgarden realizing that Chester Bennington's suicide could be directly attributed to, amongst other things, the suicide of his friend Chris Cornell, even going so far as to hang himself on Chris's birthday

Not saying AoT isn't grim but this is something that really happened and had real world implications for a LOT of people so at the very least there's a lot of room for personal interpretation there

[limpid bobcat]

ah, so you're that type of fan..

[rotund ferry]

Attack on Titan takes heavy inspiration from both world wars and the atrocities committed during the period, events that quite literally shook the world.

[limpid bobcat]

continue bloating about how great aot is, and keep undermining other things in the world

[rotund ferry]

Excuse me?

[limpid bobcat]

I simply said that the reference was to linkin park, and you went on about how aot is "better" n stuff

don't plug in your media competitions everyhwere

[rotund ferry]

Don't know why you quoted "better" because I didn't say that
You made an obscure reference to a band I don't listen to and I thought it was a different reference. I don't like Linkin park and I don't listen to it and that's a biased opinion but I'm still entitled to said opinion. I'm going to leave it at that and wish you a good day. 👋

[limpid bobcat]

and you made a comment thinking it was a reference to an obscure show

[rotund ferry]

Also I do believe there is a rule against mentioning suicide so do what you will with that information

[limpid bobcat]

just, next time don't go around talking how X media is Y in a discussion completely unrelated to said media, because it looks like you just want to talk about it 24/7

[limpid bobcat]

in a discord server about a game where people murder each other for money and occult things? there isn't such a rule, if there were, then that word would be blacklisted

what's your point here

[glad verge]

can someone post the reptilian new lore thing?

[empty owl]

think that might be just a fun non-canonical side story

i mean come on, left tied up with two prison grunts? really?

[noble scarab]

thats just so bad

its fine if its a joke or non-canon

but damn its bad

[empty owl]

i just read it and my god, he feels like an edgy 13 year old

[rotund ferry]

yeah this is bad there's typos and spelling errors I found too

but it is kinda funny

"how much pain can you tolerate?"

"I took an eel bath once"

"the water devil kind"

"ate a few too"

"I'm da last gator in da bayou baybeeeee!!!"

"deez water devils ain't shit I'm takin' back what belongs to gator gang!"

[glad verge]

thank you bomber man

[rare dirge]

Don’t think he like dies or anything

Probably escaped

[empty owl]

he escaped

but using prison grunts to guard prisoners seems too fantastical of a thing for hunt

[drowsy canopy]

I think its more they tied him up then sent to prison grunts at him to see if he would live or not

[rotund ferry]

This lore is getting goofy ahh 🤡🤡🤡🤯🤯🤯💀💀

[real dove]

Agreed. The old stuff is cool, when we had more speculation on what was going on but honestly not impressed with the moon events... I'd like to see an event or two set back in time to explain some of the lore we had before the moons... Make the event drops reskins of some of our known hunters, twisted by their time in the swamp or something. IDK. I just don;t like that we get hunters (looking at you, Viper), who are important to the story, then vanish. makes the plot feel meaningless. Twins, Lynch, Huff, Finch, I wanna know more about them. Hell, I wanna know more about our Sculptor. He/She's been a sidethought for so long with Chary. Unless they moved on, and we're going to get new maps in new locations as they spread their corruption...?

[foggy sundial]

I Hope all this side stuff is just for padding I’d like the idea to get more diverse maps set in Louisiana like even when the map with the mine was coming out I thought the map was going to be a entire mine underground where you would be forced to use the flashlight item to see anyway back on topic I do want to see more of the sculptor and what other monsters he will make

If they add more bosses I would hope that certain ones can only be at specific maps but if not that’s fine too like let’s say the spider has a southern chunk of territory where there are lots of webs around and the grunts around there are covered in webs meaning fire is better against them hinting that fire is good against the spider or the butchers territory could be burnt grass and etc could be a higher count of immolaters or more lantern grunts to show hey bud it’s pretty warm over here

Maybe I just want a open world hunt because been playing too many open world survival games

But environmental story telling is what got me into hunts whole story

[earnest jungle]

When they say prison grunts they probably mean grunts they’ve captured and use to haze new members or run tests experiments on.

[loud steeple]

It said “hazing” so I guess the pacts were more like fraternities/sororities than anything else

[foggy sundial]

The hillbilly and priest playing pranks on new pact members

[rotund ferry]

Lunar sweep

[pearl shell]

Where can I find the killbuyers lore?

[foggy sundial]

Weird sister and the bone doctor making new pledges drink swamp water mixed with bone broth

[noble scarab]

He skinned his horse and came the bayou to skin people, there you go, that’s all we got

[granite shard]

we'll prob get more lore on him eventually when new weapons come out, or there might be a news post at some point

the non-DLC hunters I feel are really limited at first since the hunter blurbs in game are so short and they don't get the immediate lore drop the DLC hunters get

[opal garnet]

Were there more lore news pieces like new reptilian interrogation?

[opal garnet]

Whatever do you mean, it's great

[noble scarab]

It’s just very cringey and seems to be written akin to bad fanfiction

Doesn’t even fit with the tone of the rest of the lore

[granite shard]

Idk I think it’s fun

[rotund ferry]

the lore right now is really goofy but I wouldn't say it's cringeworthy

and if I said it's cringeworthy at some point I retract my statement because it feels more goofy

Hunt's lore right now is like a very fine cross between goofy and edgy

[granite shard]

And like, I’m fine w variances in tone

[rotund ferry]

but not cringy

If you want to talk about cringe lore look no further than Valorant or Fortnite

Or Overwatch

[granite shard]

Like there’s the new lore where sofia and lulu basically seduce a nun by murdering a man in front of them (girlbosses) which goes more for the serious edge

[rotund ferry]

but Hunt?

nah

[granite shard]

I wouldn’t consider overwatch lore cringe, but I’m also a huge ow fan lmao

But yeah like I think hunt lore can get a little goofy but I’m fine w it

I think hunt’s trying to find its narrative footing rn as it’s expanding its lore more

[rotund ferry]

I won't get into why ow is cringe but regardless I'm disproving the idea that hunt's lore is cringe

you can call it edgy and goofy but cringe is just not true

[upbeat kiln]

I think the expansion is the biggest problem. There are so many existing elements that could be explored and elaborated on. We don't need "broader" lore, what we need is deeper lore.

[granite shard]

But I think, in a sense what they’re doing with expanding the lore, is giving ways to deepen it

[rotund ferry]

The song "It's Dark in New Orleans" is one of my favorite because I feel like it conveys the message that I feel hunt excels at, groups of bounty hunters heading down to the Bayou to gain fortune by delving into a dangerous and unknown frontier with mystery and threats lurking every corner.

"They say there's work for a girl/guy like me"

simply people looking to make the best of a bad situation

that's what bounty hunters do

and that's what hunt feels like to me

we're all bounty hunters

[upbeat kiln]

Speak for yourself. I am of The Night of The Hunter. I walk a higher path.

https://tenor.com/view/burn-in-hell-elmo-fire-flame-gif-8764555

[rotund ferry]

Cultist degenerate

I bet you put bugs in jars and throw 'em at people too

Just like that crazy Lynch and her posse

[upbeat kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxSjJ5nQhUu8fYfLcrX2TubiTa42LwAKD3

who me? lol

[opal garnet]

Ain't in Lynch's nature to let someone else take her kill

She might set bugs on you, but after she done skinning your sorry hide

[granite shard]

ok I was cooking dinner but I'm done now and can explain my point better

by the nature of the game having to add in a bunch of legendary hunters to keep the cash flow, lore's going to need to be expanded in order to, like, fit in all of them. people are going to get attached to a legendary they play a lot and might need to learn more. I think that the pact concept was one of the ways where they were able to start looping in some of the hunters in with the greater world and get them a place in it

[foggy sundial]

wait hold up is kevin the guy who cheated on his wife for the moon

[granite shard]

kevin is 14 and has no wife lol

[foggy sundial]

damn

hope we get a guy or girl related to the whole cheated on because of the moon

moonussy

[upbeat kiln]

No, Kevin is 14

[foggy sundial]

kevin should be getting his education not shooting guns at monsters

[granite shard]

Kevin needs a nap

[upbeat kiln]

Introducing new hunters isn't the problem. The problem is that the new hunters seem detached or removed from the original lore. Nothing is stopping Crytek from tying the new hunters to the story already established - there are basically endless opportunities for that, however, very little effort to do so has been made. Which is very sad, because the story that's available is really good.

[granite shard]

idk, for me I think it makes sense that a lot of them aren't going to be connected to the early lore? like a lot of the early stuff is very focused on the early days of the incident and the failures there (huff's whole debacle, hardin trying to recruit prisoners). I think it would be nice to bring more details about the hunters and their relationship to the AHA but I think we're coming into like

AHA part two

since it had already been crumpling early on with huff's death, and then the recent chary stuff kinda solidified that failure

[foggy sundial]

uh oh i haven't been up to date with this events lore im guessing huff is important

[upbeat kiln]

I would rather have it connected, than the non-related random backstories we are getting now. A guy posted this on reddit four hours ago, he pretty much nails it lol

[granite shard]

I think the struggle right now is getting it connected in the disjointed narrative style hunt has tended to have

which I think is what the moon trilogy was trying to start doing

[upbeat kiln]

Don't even get me started on that

[granite shard]

I think a big problem is how hard the hunt lore is to actually sit down and read. unless you play every single weapon enough to unlock its full book of weapons thing, you're going to largely get super disjointed stories

I do like that they're now doing more with like. continuing stories abt the legendary hunters

(I'm talking about how lulu and sofia got their part two: nun seduction lmao)

[foggy sundial]

at this point another crazy guy with mask makes it seem like the bayou could just be a way to get rid of convicts

[granite shard]

I mean I think that a bunch of crazy guys in masks going to the bayou where they have free rein to kill a bunch of people does make sense lol

[foggy sundial]

but thats just an idea the dude probably just walked to the bayou

[upbeat kiln]

I love that. That was actually the very thing that attracted me to begin with. Having to piece it all together. It also leaves a lot of room for interpretation, analysis and guesswork, which some of the members here in the Discord are particularly good at. Especially Tib and Rexli.

[granite shard]

it does provide a sandbox, but I think it also makes catching up on a lore a chore

I'm a lore fiend when it comes to games, I am absolutely wiling to go to the wiki to read all of the book of weapon lore drops and go to the news to see whatever short thing they're presenting there, but it's also a negative

it's not presented in a way that's easy for people to get into which I think is a shame because it's really cool and I know would be popular with a lot of people

[junior pecan]

You should’ve met essence, that guy was like the conspiracy theorist of #lore-discussion-hardcore . Dude treated that old Q&A like religious script.

[upbeat kiln]

Oh, holy shit. I didn't even know that was a thing 😄

[junior pecan]

Yup, pretty much everything in it is probably retconned by now though lol

[restive patrol]

just cause the early stuff was focused on the early days of the incident, doesn't mean that they can just skip over what happened over the in between period between Huff's era, and Mr. Chary popping up out of nowhere. For example, they could've done their faction system with the factions mentioned previously in the books (Reverend's, Hardin's, Powell's, etc etc). They could've built up to a "Part Two", teasing new characters and then properly introducing them and making us actually care about the overarching story and the characters. But no, they just shoved this random moon trilogy that leaves more questions than answers (What happened to those previous factions? Where are the Twins?), introduces characters that are underwhelmingly written, with no connective tissue even between each trilogy (Where did Viper go? How did they get out of Kingsnake mine, etc)

[upbeat kiln]

That makes me a sad panda.

[junior pecan]

Honestly now that its programmed the best thing they could do is a retro event concerning what happened ~1 to 2 years ago when huff died and the fighting started.

[opal garnet]

Important question here, what's this hat called?

[junior pecan]

Then bounce back to your idea, continuing the stories started in moon

[junior pecan]

Giggle hat in straya, boonie hat in NA

[opal garnet]

I'm no expert, but this is no cowboy hat

[junior pecan]

Very tall one though, might actually be something different but similar

[opal garnet]

Pretty sure it isn't that

[junior pecan]

Why

[opal garnet]

It just isn't?

[junior pecan]

In what way? It droops, it has a conical center with a flattened tip?

[opal garnet]

Different textures

Boonie is all cloth like

[junior pecan]

Angularly indistinguishable, made of a single material, some sort of binding seam holding it at the line between conical surface and base.

What do you think thats leather?

I can’t tell what it is myself, but leather doesn’t usually droop right?

Maybe if its just pelt

[upbeat kiln]

Angularly indistinguishable

that tickled the right side of my brain

[junior pecan]

There’s a word for it but I don’t know it

[upbeat kiln]

that whole entire sentence might be the most elaborate and beautiful thing I've ever heard expressed regarding a simple piece of headwear lol

[junior pecan]

“Looks the same from all angles” isn’t as descriptive as I needed

[upbeat kiln]

sounds about redneck'ish enough

[junior pecan]

The edges are too shiny to be felt, I think

See what I mean? I think leather is too processed to look that droopy and irregular.

Though this irl hat has a much shorter brim, so that would definitely play a role, but it looks far to regular, comparatively speaking

[rotund ferry]

Kevin's wife IS the Moon

[junior pecan]

Maybe its just poorly made leather, or some intermediary material like rawhide, hell if I know.

Think I found it

@opal garnet Outback hat, which may or may not be distinguishable from a giggle hat. Not sure on the etymology and history of hats.

[opal garnet]

Not the same hat

Just look at it

[junior pecan]

Self-evidency is personal form of evidence, it can’t be transmitted or communicated

You can tell me you find something self-evident, as you have, but obviously that holds no sway in the minds of others, since I have already looked at it, just as you request.

[empty owl]

think it might be a plantation hat

it could be a flop hat

[opal garnet]

I belive it's called capotain

[opal garnet]

So, the new hunter

Finally not a le mysterious masked stranger who was the best in mysterious masked stranger class

And she has vitiligo, it's all the rage with inclusivity folks nowadays

Lorewise, she uhhh cuts out people's eyes

Not sure what not a savior nor a beast means

Men she killed were "wretched"

" for sins the courts of men had swiftly forgiven"

Probably for jaywalking

Why can't we have another goody two shoes hunter like witch hunter

[humble basin]

yes they walked across the road while a carriage was going by

[opal garnet]

Worse

They went to Brazil

https://tenor.com/view/lady-dragged-green-dark-horror-gif-22161451

[rotund ferry]

New hunter weapon skins 🤔

Me when new Slate skin 😃

Me when another Spitfire skin 😐

[opal garnet]

Don't get me started on spitfires

Short barrel schodfields are an affront to God

And explaining it's higher fire rate as "It's really comfortable like" is an affront to me

Also I really wanted russian model schodfield skin for my Hunt donut steal oc

But that's up and gone now

And they just keep adding new skins for it

[icy brook]

I will say in my subjective opinion this skin and the weapon skins are duds for me

[cold wind]

same, why would i bring a shiny golden pistol to a swamp

its just gonna get muddy n then ya cant see the engravings etc

as revolver ocelot said: the engravings dont give you a tactical advantage whatsoever

if id get a skin for a weapon, it would be something worn lookin n well used, like the mosin skin i saw that had moss growing on it etc

[warped sluice]

Big Boss said that. Ocelot was the one with the engravings.

[cold wind]

yee ocelot said in mgsv

[devout cedar]

Hardin QnA

[cold wind]

im waitin for monroe QnA

[opal garnet]

He was repeating what Boss told him back in MGS3

[opal garnet]

Uhhh, that's like not at all well used

You're supposed to take care of your weapons, not bury them

[cold wind]

close enough

[opal garnet]

Who's higher in hierarchy, sheriff or marshal?

[junior pecan]

Different hierarchies

[opal garnet]

In cowboy coolness hierarchy

Also Brass Flower gets ignored once again

#JusticeForBrassFlower

[mint basalt]

Sheriff is cooler

[noble scarab]

At least Hardin’s q&a is better and more in character

[last lotus]

That Hardin Q&A though... Is he gonna shoot Brewer?

Let alone the thought of him "dying" sounds like a badass skin.

[opal garnet]

They all died a lot during the event

[last lotus]

Lore wise?

[opal garnet]

Well, no, but they wouldn't be asked stupid questions "What if you were brought back from the dead"

[last lotus]

They would - If you actually read the Q&A, Hardin offered some of the victims brew until they turned and he shot them. Brewer asked if he were to die and come back as one of "them" what would be his intentions

[opal garnet]

What are you trying to say

He burned down a farm with a lot of infected people

Those that weren't zombies yet, he gave them liquor to ease their passing and then shot them

What bothers me is that poor guy resorts to looting random weapons, just how poor is he

[rotund ferry]

So I'm getting the feeling that any hunter can die and just get resurrected through ritualistic practices

I don't think it's just Kevin Linus that's getting resurrected by the moon anymore

[opal garnet]

Also they aren't ressurected like revenant who is a zombie looking

individual

[rotund ferry]

Well Revenant isn't a Ghoul like the ones we waste in game either

Mrs. Ochenkov fits that description a little better than Revenant but even Mrs. Ochenkov answers to a master that being Mr. Chary

Your average ghoul is still a living person they just have no control over their actions but they still possess coherent thoughts

[noble scarab]

So regular hunters can be brought back for a short time via a brief ritual, they come back more or less the same. The revenant was long dead and he was called back via some combination of voodoo and night cult activities. Mary was the by product of chary fucking about and is probably still alive in there. The infected seems to be turning into a grunt but maintains his humanity for a bit, it’s likely he was either never inoculated, or was working off the old hunter serum,

[wispy gulch]

What’s the lore on the bosses and there being multiple of each? Does the sculptor pick just special cases to turn them into butchers or spiders or assassins? And what about scrap beak I thought he was a soldier who went nuts so why are there multiple of him? Does the sculptor just resurrect them over and over or is it making multiple?

[opal garnet]

Zombies evolve into clones of original specials

Bosses need certain conditions like mass burial for spider

But they are indeed all clones of original big monsters

[rotund ferry]

I was gonna say it's entirely possible for multiple of spider because of mass burial

and seeing as how there's more than one meathead it's possible for multiple butchers to exist

I'm not familiar with assassin lore but I do know it's got a thing to do with bugs so my idea is that there can be more of assassin too

Scrapbeak is the only one I'd say is a unique case because as mentioned it was a soldier with PTSD who was experimented on

but seeing as how hunters like Kevin Linus can be resurrected I'd say the same can be said for Scrapbeak

so my head canon is that every time we run into Scrapbeak it's the same guy just resurrected again to give us trouble

Although ngl Scrapbeak feels like a rated M Scooby doo villain

[wispy gulch]

Noice cheers for the answers

[earnest jungle]

Depends on what kind of marshal: Federal and State Marshals outrank Sheriff’s but I think a Sheriff would outrank a City or Town Marshal.

[empty owl]

i think city/town marshalls will outrank the sheriff

either that or they have the same rank

i'm going off of that one line from django unchained "don't call the marshal yet, call the sheriff"

[rotund ferry]

Sheriff is more localized Marshal is on a state/federal level

So technically Marshal outranks Sheriff

[ripe inlet]

Just read sheriff hardins Q/A. he might end up as my fav hunter for weaponless runs 😄

[opal garnet]

Weirdly, he is supposed to be the local Sheriff

Could be New Orleans sheriff

Yet he is so poor he can't feed like 10 men through winter

And has to go weaponless runs

[noble scarab]

Hardin spent all his cash bussing orphans down to feed to the meat grinder

[rotund ferry]

He spent money on the liquor he used to intoxicate the near ghoulified infected townspeople

[real dove]

man of the people

[loud steeple]

Was the infected fine to stay from Hardins point of view or is just being infected enough, even if you're 100% mentally there

[rotund ferry]

The infection is weird because the infected are fully aware of who and what they are but have no control over their actions

[vernal stag]

I think that, like an infection, the madness starts small and grows over time. Sometimes it can be partially staved off like in the case of the Reaper or the Penitent. For some it takes weeks or months, for others it's much faster. William Salter took an extended time. The Redneck was never effected.

[opal garnet]

Pretty sure neither Pentient nor Reaper are infected

[upbeat kiln]

Seeing that Hardin is a man that will go to almost any measure to achieve his goal, I would say thay if his allegiance lies in that of the human realm. Hardin would most likely let him carry his burden for as long as he could.

[real dove]

Is the new dude (Sacciamacciadinglydoo) canonically undead? He snaps his own neck in his loadout animation. Unless he's part owl?

Or rather, unsnaps his neck

[opal garnet]

Circus freak

One really honky clown

[real dove]

Hell of a trick

[rotund ferry]

The only hunter part owl is daughter of decay

[real dove]

She needs to learn his neck skills then, cause that boy is taking eyes on the back of your head a little far

Figured it was just a cool animation but wondered if anyone knew of anything past that for him

[icy brook]

If I had a nickel for every Phantom of the Opera, theater themed hunter, I’d have two nickels, which is strange it’s happened twice

[earnest jungle]

Like I said it depends what kind of Marshal we’re talking about. A Federal Marshall or State Marshal will outrank a County/Parish Sheriff. However a County/Parish Sheriff will outrank a town/city marshal. Brewer is a Federal Marshal working on the orders of the Governor so she outranks Hardin.

[earnest jungle]

Hardin is the Sheriff of DeSalle Parish.

[noble scarab]

If you counted mad men in masks you might have enough to make a dollar

[earnest jungle]

JOHN VICTOR IS MAKING AN APPEARANCE IN THE NEW TUTORIAL!

[rotund ferry]

Not anymore

Mf got arrested for getting civilians hammered on booze and then blowing their heads off

Tbf it's what I would've done

At the time they did give liquor to people to ease the pain and I mean a bullet to the head is the least painful way to go, it's quick and easy

[loud steeple]

They weren’t contributing to the fight against the infection and were probably just gonna wander somewhere way worse and hurt people when they finally turned

[rotund ferry]

Exactly

It's like how the survivors in the walking dead handled shit

Rick Grimes was a Deputy too

Law enforcement just like Hardin

[opal garnet]

Nah, there is something beyond that

I think Brewer arrested him on Chary's orders

Since she wants her way onto AHA inner circle

Though she officially works for governor

Also I think Hardin was already demoted from sheriff

Because it makes no sense for Big Bad Sheriff to go bum runs

[opal garnet]

Reptilian has a furry gf OwO

Or are they both scalies?

I'm not as well versed in furry lore 🤔

[rotund ferry]

🤨

[opal garnet]

New legendary hunters announced

[rotund ferry]

I didn't tune in for the dev stream

[opal garnet]

Hornback or something

So being horny is already in the name

[vernal stag]

It was my interpretation that the demonic possession that their DLC pages refer to was the influence of the sculptor aka the infection. The murders they committed are unlike grunts, however it is behavior that's similar to what's found in the William Salter journal pages. And Salter was definitely infected.

[cobalt stirrup]

Ello, haven’t been on here for a while, is there still a lore document we can get linked to?

[icy brook]

Try the pinned comments

[cobalt stirrup]

thanks, im an idiot! i only have discord for the hunt discord so I’m not well versed in it. Thanku!!

[icy brook]

You’re all good

[vernal stag]

The fandom wiki has also been updated with all of the most recent book of weapon entries and snip-its from inside and outside the game.

[rotund ferry]

Boowhomp

[indigo holly]

Friends, working on a Hunt fan site for my web development course

Who are some of the most important members in the American Hunters association? preferably ones with visuals/Legendary hunter in game

[icy brook]

Harold Black immediately comes to mind, just because he has a model, the Gunrunner and Bone Doctor have also been pretty important to the recent story

[opal garnet]

Gunrunner and Bone Doctor don't seem to be part of AHA

Skinflint certainly is

Also arguably Chinese hunters

Most likely they aren't there to be AHA lapdogs, but to kill evil

[real dove]

Gunrunner runs the guns for the AHA inside corpses. Bone Doc may be the reason everything kicked off, unknown where he stands with the AHA tho. I don't think we really know where a lot of folks stand right now. I'd guess after the Finch letter in Devil's that most of the hunters involved in that mess aren't part of the AHA. I doubt there is any real loyalty to the AHA right now, folks are just looking to earn that bread. Harold Black is the only true AHA lacky we have, since his notes are all over the gun lore

[icy brook]

^

Hardin and Brewer would also be good suggestions for a fan site, Hardin actually has a lot of lore referencing him and has a number of documented dealings with the AHA

[real dove]

True. I really hope they revisit the twins/lynch/ the AHA first coming to Louisiana. We have weapons that belong to Huff, the original dude running the AHA, as well as notes from him. Same for Lynch and the twins.

They just don't have models, sorry

[icy brook]

^^

[opal garnet]

Trevors most likely is a local gunrunner, not the AHA's main arms provider

He has his own gang and a stake in lousiana, as he took to fighting night of the hunter cultists

[real dove]

Hm, I need to read up on my lore then, as it was my understanding the massive number of guns showing up are due to his carcass pockets lol

[foggy sundial]

Carcass gunrunner is a unboxing YouTuber in the bayou

[vernal stag]

Unfortunately, the most important members to the story like Philip Huff Jones, Elwood Finch, and Orwell Chary have not been seen. The one that's playable and gets mentioned the most would be Sheriff Hardin. Then there are characters like Isaac Powell, the Night Seer, who was "initiated into the Hunt" and played a role in the last few events, but has his own faction. I can't tell if that means that anyone who hunts bounties are technically in the AHA or not, or if it means that just got the shot that gives them dark sight.

[noble scarab]

We have a historical image of Huff since he was a real dude

[empty owl]

we only have scant description of lynch

we have no idea what victor caldwell looks like

hawksaw may have connections to huff and the AHA (possibly the new york branch) considering he’s aware of the experiments happening beneath pelican island

[high stone]

Tamrat Scognamiglio is mentioned a few times, working with Black, I think? I’m really not sure if he’s supposed to be involved in the AHA though

[noble scarab]

Hes the sinner's version of HB

[empty owl]

okay okay so hear me out

carcass gunrunner doing gun deliveries with the beetles

its basically amazon

[indigo holly]

Yeah this is the annoying issue I ran into. All the important figures have not been seen in game

Used Marshall Brewer, Sherif Hardin and the Researcher

[noble scarab]

We may eventually get the twins and lynch, especially since they’re not afraid to show the new main characters, ie kev

[opal garnet]

Or not

[upbeat kiln]

If we ever get Lynch, I might die from a seizure of happiness

[opal garnet]

"Wow, yet another white haired woman in hunt!!!"

[vernal stag]

It does seem like the people in charge of story are more concerned with self-reference and continuity now. But those characters still seem like they have been dropped in general. We'll see. Even more new lore coming soon with all these new gun variants. Might tie up the prison arc.

[noble scarab]

We at least got a reference to the twins or lynch in one of the recent ammo notes I believe

[opal garnet]

Personally, I am waiting for Cajun hunter

[leaden jackal]

GUYS THEY LET SCRAPBEAK LOOSE! (Scrapbeak in distance losing his shid running from compound to compound "the loot,the loot,the LOOT"!)

[empty owl]

i would looove to play as the McGowans

[silver yacht]

Do we know who the guy from the tutorial is?

[opal garnet]

Uhhh

I believe it's the guy who was supposed to be the main character back when Hunt was supposed to be co-op corridor shooter

[wraith cove]

Didnt felis kill the twins or she killed a pair of twins the ones the double lemats are named after

[noble scarab]

It was the lemat ones

[opal garnet]

Completely different twins

Bayo twins would wipe the floor with Felis and make a nice rug

[empty owl]

the McGowans were the ones that killed huff and the black coat, think they would wipe the floor with felis tbh

they were also trained directly under lynch soooo

[wraith cove]

Ill look later to confirm i know it says something about them under cent lore aswell

[opal garnet]

Centennial lore is about other twins, Jana and Ethyl

Those were trick shooters who MAY have been killed by Felis

[vernal stag]

The exact name of the character should be in the credits someone, so check that when the full update comes out.

[silver yacht]

bet

[silver yacht]

ay we got the tutorial hunters name. John Victor

[foggy sundial]

Sounds fitting

[vernal stag]

John Victor's story pages are under the Mosin and deal with him tracking the twins. So this is a sign that they'll come back into the storyline.

[empty owl]

didn’t john victor also finished the plans for the avtomat after he was captured/chased out by the night of the hunters?

also ethyl and jana (and also jane, hi jane) are dead, they were killed by felis

at least according to carter, mind you he’s not exactly a reliable narrator

[opal garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M67C1I6PJ3A&t

Blue glow, anyone?

That's literally how it works

You roll your eyes and look for blue glow

[limpid bobcat]

felis Q&A

I've always thought that she was the sadistic type, not the calm and religious type

[edgy aspen]

Well, that entry doesn't really paint here as religious. Not even very ceremonial. Less sadistic and more cunning.

[earnest jungle]

Makes sense Felis suffers from some unspecified spiritual malady that was initially healed by Doctor John when she was a child in 1876. However she seemingly relapsed some time in 1886.

[rotund ferry]

She's in league with Dr. John so it makes sense

Press F for Felis' Berthier Mle 1892

although I hope she comes across a better gun

one that isn't poorly made by the French

[wraith cove]

She gave it to that one bitch w the plants and the owl looking face

[rotund ferry]

Ok so now a gator cage is spotted but how fast will this thing be and if has fed on anything and how big is it gonna be

[fallen sequoia]

This is good though
Berthier is hot garbage

[rotund ferry]

The F in French certainly doesn't stand for Firearm

[lavish mist]

reeeeeeeeeeeee love me berthier

[rotund ferry]

God the frog makes so much sense now

Reeeeeee til your heart's content

[stiff solstice]

[primal jolt]

man this game is so good

inject paranormal cowboys into my forehead

[woeful ferry]

Question: does the AHA or any hunters that collect a bounty have to pay taxes?

[rotund ferry]

It's the United States of America during 1891-1904 so yeah I'd say hunters and the AHA have to pay taxes

Although I'd assume certain hunters with criminal backgrounds probably don't and I'd also assume that the native American hunters don't either because of reservation rights.

[woeful ferry]

Hell yeah another reason to play as The Third Son!

[noble scarab]

Imagine the redneck paying taxes

[empty owl]

sheriff hardin and company commits tax evasion

[rotund ferry]

Pretty sure Hacksaw Jack and Private eye are accomplices to tax evasion

They're from New York so they probably cover the wall street shenanigans

[graceful jetty]

Beeg 'gator

[opal garnet]

Kevin probably pays taxes

Goodie two shoes that he is

[real dove]

do we have pics of all the new hunters? I saw the two gator lads on the reddit but someone talked about 2 new BB folkses and I couldn't find a 4th (just the chick with the weird face bandana)

[opal garnet]

A little more respect to reptilian's new gf

[real dove]

lol until i know her name, it's her most defining feature to me

[opal garnet]

Something with horny in it

That's what I remember

Wait, I'll scroll up

Hornback

[real dove]

fringe face, got it

Was there another? Or am I & some random on the reddit losing it

[rotund ferry]

Honestly a cool looking hunter

He had the same idea Keith Cowen had with the coat

[real dove]

I like all the new ones coming to us. I hope they have a bit longer of a questline than the 2 weeks we got for halloween, but I'll def be trying to snag them all. gonna be scaley in the swamps

[rotund ferry]

Yeah those two look like more gator hunters

[real dove]

left dude is wearing a croc skull, that long skinny snoot is def not gator. but no wonder we don't have any gators left with these lads and the water devils killing em all

[rotund ferry]

Ngl that's the tiniest Gharial skull I've ever seen