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[little carbon]

Not really. Yes, the raw price is higher, but you do get weapons out of them, which you dont get with legendaries. If you compare just the base prices, removing the weapons cost from the equation, then recruitment Hunters are roughly the same.
And even if they would cost more, then that already makes legendaries the better option, meaning a buff (making them free) would be even less needed.

[nova canyon]

Now that the Legendary Hunter are only 200$, they should be around the same price as a T3

Legendary are probably a few Buck more expensive, but only a few bucks

[hearty rivet]

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[fallen lichen]

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[little carbon]

If they are playing with a friend from Germany they will be matched depending on their region.

[fluid locust]

But a lot of the weapons are trash tier and you only get half back from selling now. Same for equipment

[mighty eagle]

Yea with ping lock i can still play anywhere except Asia

[little carbon]

Yet another point that legendaries are better than using recruitment, which again is another point for not making them even better.
But I would also argue that most weapons on T3 are absolutely playable. And you also get a discount on the gear.

[fluid locust]

A skin is not a buff lol

They're going to add customization eventually anyway

If you could just slap legendary skins in guns you already own that'd be great. Same applies for hunters

If a skin is too camouflaged that's the skins problem not the problem of every single other skin

I would argue many legendaries are more visible than default skins

Phantom, redshirt, hillbilly, mountain man, pretty much all the Asian and native American skins, carcass gunrunner, revenant, night seer and sister, the committed, the kid, billy story, lulu, steel eye

[vital drum]

Desync specifically as a problem mostly negatively affects hunters with high ping, since Hunt's movement is server authoritative.

[fair rover]

I mean maybe i wasnt that close but seemed like it i was getting decent matches

System really shouldnt be in the game in the first place though this isnt r6 siege we dont need a rank system and if the gamemode is called "Bounty hunt" you think mmr would go by how often you optain the bounty not if you died a few times or not

Lol i mean not like it is anyways smurf accounts exist and well just because you did good in a past match doesnt mean you will do just as good in this one

Should be more based off kd if they want that

It isnt but its a closer indicator then this mmr system

You can do the same for mmr

Then just make a smurf account like most these people do lol

[nova canyon]

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[unborn dagger]

@rapid crater Did you just completely forget that choke bombs exist?

[granite bane]

Say you have less than 200 h$ without saying you have less than 200 h$

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[vast geyser]

Really wondering why my suggestion about single Tools (3) and Consumables (4) buttons doesn't resonate more with you guys. None of you played CS before? 😄 You want to equip a flashbang -> Press "4" two times. Could be optional, like the Hunter/Gunslinger scheme.

[white bone]

fix the servers

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[round acorn]

they are rebooting.... chill

yeah. probably wont happen. but I want to at least show interest.

[eager kiln]

nah back then in the cowboy times they didn't have that good of servers. Honestly I love the realism from the Crytek team

[paper kernel]

Not going to lie, the graphics on them old punch card computers wasnt so great, but the nostalgia makes up for it

[ancient fern]

Best Server Ever and the Crytek is Sleeping..

[unkempt spindle]

just start servers lol

[glass fractal]

by not buying better servers in the first place

do you notice it yourself or..?

sigh

I thought so, yeah

go back to sleep, honey

this ain't going nowhere

no you're not

[cobalt palm]

Nah just dont wanna pay over and over fir something I already bought. Simple as that.

[stuck furnace]

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[stuck furnace]

no

[nova canyon]

Bot has stroke sometimes

[stuck furnace]

thanks, it worked

[little carbon]

But that argument would be the same as saying "i bought a mosin skin, i want the mosin to be free" Or to be more precise the better analogy would be "I want to buy a winfield and be able to make it into the legendary mosin".
You kinda have to treat the different categories of Hunters just as you treat weapons from different categories.
(The point is you have to play suboptimal things like whiteshirts if you run out of money, being able to apply the skin to them would allow you to basically play a T3 without paying the tax of the T3)
And when comparing legendaries to T3 Hunters then the legendaries are already the better deal (unless the recruitment Hunter comes with exactly the weapons you want).

[fluid locust]

Legendaries are under picked and if they want people to buy skins they should really change the system

[little carbon]

As far as i know (and i might be wrong on that, so take all of that with a grain of salt. I dont remember the source where i read this) Crytek is stuck in their current server provider contract until the end of this year.
If that is actually the case, they really cant do anything about better servers currently, because paying for two contracts would absolutely not be feasible.

[fluid locust]

I think getting rid of traits with hunt dollars will finally help legendaries but there should still be other systems especially for gun skins

Like just applying them

Or for t2 and t3s let us apply legendaries on those

[glass fractal]

this is right

[teal briar]

"Forcing you to play sub-optimal" meanwhile Redshirt mains and Phantoms over here laughing at your argument

[fluid locust]

I almost never run legendaries because knowing what perks I'll have is super good. I only run legendaries if my last few reshuffles have trash tier perks

[little carbon]

Are you sure about that? I am running into legendaries more than nonlegendaries i feel like it.
For guns i think it would be fine if you could apply them to non-contraband instances.

[fluid locust]

@teal briar and this

Lot of legendaries don't have good camo

[teal briar]

Saying that being able to use a legendary hunter skin for 0 Hunt Dollars because some concept of legendary hunters giving you an advantage by their color pallet doesn't make sense

It's just a bad argument.

[fluid locust]

I would say majority of legendaries have very visible silhouettes

[teal briar]

An option to take the traits away, making your free hunter pull from leggo hunter pool, or something is completely feasible

I am all for T2-T3 Hunters being expensive because of knowing their traits, good weapons, and having a better stealth pattern and such.. that makes sense to me, 100% down with it. Saying Free Hunters shouldn't pull from leggo Hunter pool or something I am not on board for that.

[little carbon]

I mean i like the phantom, probably one of my favourite skins, but that is playing suboptimal by choice, which is fine. I just dont want to even further reduce the consequence for money mismangement. Its already way to easy to keep a stable economy

[fluid locust]

I can count the camo skins on my hands tbh. Cain, gator man, and executioner boi mostly camo.

Maybe the latest Christmas skin as well

[little carbon]

Yes, but you have to balance by top end.

Not that i would personally think that camo matters a lot

[teal briar]

Sure but a lot of 6-stars use just random ass leggo skins lol

[fluid locust]

If they did that they'd nerf long ammo finally

[inner loom]

Ye, let's encourage more Camp: Sitdown.

[teal briar]

Also, by your point, Leggo hunters (Purchased with real cash) should not offer a camo benefit... that's P2W stuff. If anything, the only Hunters who sould offer camo play is T3

1000+ Hunt Dollars

Even then, none of that matters, many people sitting maxed out and tens of thousand of Hunt Dollars so

Balancing optimal play around Hunter Dollars is not really a good strategy, because not only would it widen a divide between people who play constantly (Look at streamers with max pres and 100k HD) vs casual Andy's

[fluid locust]

I have over 100k and buy t3s over legendaries every day

Legendary camo not worth

[teal briar]

Def a different system should be used to manage optimal play, what it is? IDK, I'm not a game developer, but Hunt Dollars? I don't think that's it.

[elder sequoia]

upvote latest damage done post please i'm sick of landing 3 body shots with no damage history

[queen jungle]

@humble knoll I've only ever seen 'teaming' in quickplay one time, and that was when the entire server collectively agreed to just hang out in one of the forts and talk about life so a guy could complete his summon

Do you really think we shouldn't be allowed to have wholesome hunt moments?

The only time I've seen 'teaming' in Bounty Hunt was when a duo said if I was solo I could just have the bounty token, and they let me have one and leave without any fighting, we didn't kill anyone together and didn't even go to the same extract

It's not super common to see people trying to game teamsize limits in a way that negatively impacts other's experience

[waxen pier]

Honestly it has been more common these past 2 months than Ive ever seen before. Recorded and reported 4 different teams we match up with doing quads into duos with no Voip comms, so definitely pre-made.

They even have their own little system on how to tell if they are in the same game

Spawn in and full auto fire an avtomat, if the other team doesnt hear the gun in their match they extract and try again.

[queen jungle]

Reporting them is the right step 🙂

[waxen pier]

👍

Honestly these last 2 months have been the only times I have ever seen teaming in Hunt, but it has definitely been done repeatedly.

They dont realize that when they win, it makes it extremely easy to report.

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[hearty rivet]

@hazy quartz
That's a good point, it's kinda ridiculous how unintuitive that part of the UI is. I think they mentioned they're working on improving the equipment screen, maybe they could tackle that at the same time.

[hazy quartz]

oh, i think i missed that part where they said that, i really hope they are working on it, the UI is one of Hunts weakest points but has improved over time, so i am optimistic we will get something like this eventually.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah agreed, I remember how I started the game for the first time and was just totally overwhelmed (in the worst way) but the UI.

[cobalt palm]

But legendary gun skins cost the same as a regular gun. Im not saying you get free hunters Im talking about getting a free reskin of a hunter you buy. I used the free hunter as an example dince they are easy to see and lots of people use them for quick games. Why not let them equip a skin they bought to the hunter so they can actually use legendary hunter skins tgey like. Never said you co stanyly get free anything. Everyone gets a free hunter already. Might as well make it look cool.

[queen jungle]

Legendary hunters are not simply "skins" though. They are individual hunters with lore attached to them, etc. It even used to be the case that you were unable to have more than one legendary hunter or gun at the same time (except for contraband).

[cobalt palm]

We are talking about ways to change the system for them. I kniw they are a seperate entity.

[queen jungle]

IMO the current system it perfectly fine and legendary stuff in Hunt shouldn't become simple "skins". That wouldn't do them any justice since they are so much more than that.

[fluid locust]

they literally are skins tho

[cobalt palm]

You can have lore as a skin lol.

[fluid locust]

they just named them something fancy

typically in other games "legendary" typically means unique/rare but the skins in hunt are literally not unique as everyone can just buy them outright (except for twitch/event ones)

[hazy quartz]

legendaries bankrupt me in game, like why do i get a gameplay disadvantage because i buy and use my dlcs cosmetics?

[cobalt palm]

Say I buy a tier 3 hunter and dont like how they look so I go and equip Lulu as a skin for them. Now instead of a normal tier 3 I have a hunter I like over them. That way you always get to play as a hunter you want all the time.

[hazy quartz]

cosmetics shouldn't affect gameplay, but by being able to get free stuff from summons and chary etc. legendaries are not equal economy wise.

[cobalt palm]

Or say you go broke after some bad sessions and you dont wanna get finessed as a white shirt. Boom just slap on a legendary skin you bought. Now you dont feel as broke and you get to hunt in style. Crapoy loadout probably but style makes people happy.

[fluid locust]

exactly. if you could put legendaries over t2/t3 there would be absolutely no problem tbh. I can see somewhat of a problem with free hunters but like if there was an option to have a legendary for free with no perks that'd be basically the same shit anyways

[cobalt palm]

I just wanna suck at the game but at least get to use my legendaries.

[cobalt palm]

Yeah maybe add the custmization to Free hunters only so you can at least make them yours. Kinda like the milsim skins in MW 2019. Nothing special but at least customizable.

[fluid locust]

yea. honestly though I never use legendaries because t2/t3s have a massive advantage with knowing what perks you'll get

like I'd rather get a guranteed doctor for like 800 than waste 200 a bunch of times and get decoy resupply, adrenaline, and blade seer

maybe with being able to get rid of traits for hunt dollars in the future they'll be a more attractive option but atm I don't really use my legendaries and it's a shame cause I have quite a few

[cobalt palm]

Exactly! Someone made that point kast night as well. Thus usnt a Gacha game. Why go broke re rolling a hunter when you can just go the cheaper route and but a hunter out rite. Defeats the purpise of buying legendaries. I have Steel eyed and Lulu. I want to use them when I want.

[elder sequoia]

what? legendary hunters are cheaper route

[cobalt palm]

Not if you want a spicific set of traits abd keep re rolling them

[half stag]

back when they first added legendaries, they said the reason why legendaries work the way they do, is cause they don't want you to keep running them every match. as they want them to be a "flex"/celebratory gesture

forgot which stream they said that, gonna have to look back through them

[cobalt palm]

That makes no sense though. Why not flex every match?

Respect

[elder sequoia]

i used to think legendary hunters were a waste of hunt dollars until i realized they're actually cheaper if you focus on weapon sets instead of getting traits you want

now i couldn't imagine buying a hunter and spending 2000 hunt dollars on weapons i won't use this prestige

and it requires only one win to get the traits you want

so it's either 200 dollars plus what you usually get or 2000 hunt dollars for random shit i'm not warmed up to

btw this isn't to say there shouldn't be hunter customization there should be because the chicks are ugly

[hazy quartz]

they have clearly identifiable primary and secondary sexual characteristics though.

would be nice if they would embrace a little bit more physical diversity , women come in different shapes and sizes (men too)

[hearty rivet]

There's the redneck I guess

[cobalt palm]

Redneck is peak diversity.

[hazy quartz]

[cobalt palm]

Add a wife for Redneck named Hillbilly or Valley Girl.

[hearty rivet]

Karen

[cobalt palm]

Yes-

Mrs. Marcy

Some German style hunters would be cool. I know thetes a lot if german architecture hete in Texas but udk about Louisiana. They are a lot more French.

[hearty rivet]

What upsets me most about her is that the only hunter that's queer by lore (afaik) was a twitch drop I can't get because I started playing after that happened 😦

first sentence of her lore

[cobalt palm]

They may come back. Thetes a lot if talk about Billy Story showing up again.

Her lore says she was a prostitute even though she prefered the same sex.

[hearty rivet]

I'd happily pay BB to get her

[cobalt palm]

Always hope they may bring her back with drops. Idk.

[hearty rivet]

fingers crossed

[cobalt palm]

I didnt know the marquis was tied into her lore- just thoyght it was a fancy knife you get.

[fluid locust]

well clearly they want them to be a source of income for them now so they oughta make some changes

[rare iron]

hello, today I had a problem with the poison effect in the game, although the effect of the poison passed, my image was blurred, I would appreciate it if you could fix it.

[fading zephyr]

Can we get a backpack that can hold 2 guns? or maybe have a player ID item that we can collect off the body that shows how killed and name?

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[cobalt palm]

Tbat last bit sounds cool. Like tags in Tarkov

[fading zephyr]

exactly, I think it would be awesome

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[nova canyon]

He is pretty saturated, not really hard to see

[nova canyon]

Would pose hitboxes readability problems tho

Yeah, also

[little carbon]

That is exactly why it would be s bad idea. If someone goes broke they made a lot of mistakes, that should feel bad.

[nova canyon]

Tbh you have to make a shitload of mistakes to be broke

[unborn dagger]

@short silo Then don't jump past two times? Not a hard concept.

[tribal wyvern]

@neat garnet
It happens to all hunters with coats from time to time.
It's not really that bad.

@celest solstice
Ye, you 2 shooting eachother at the same time is still a thing.
You could try asking nicely if they won't shoot you.

Tho i wouldn't put much faith in it.

[warm zephyr]

@queen jungle @rocky blade @queen jungle @nova canyon remember the cheater i mentioned yesterday

[rocky blade]

only had a 57 KD, only @warm zephyr

[warm zephyr]

big yikes

[rocky blade]

the highest natural KD i have seen in the game was like a 4.83 K/D

[nova canyon]

You Can have higher if you start a New account, but it doesn't last long

[nova canyon]

Guess the report system works

[rocky blade]

the guy had like 2 K hours in hunt tho

@nova canyon

[tribal wyvern]

"remove ping lock i need to play on eu servers" lmao

[nova canyon]

Yikes, must be one of those Guy that like to jerk on KD and sit in bush for hours

[rocky blade]

who knows

he played agro as well good all round but still got killed from time to time, older guy as well, pretty chill guy , mostly just wanted to get into fights in game

[nova canyon]

@gaunt cosmos You missed

[rocky blade]

also @warm zephyr, i dont see how someone can get like 1500 kills in like 24-48 hour without using cheats because that amount of kills seems like oh they are over there lemme go kill them

[warm zephyr]

mosin splitzer cheater

seen him play. his team mates left without him because they realised he was cheating

[queen jungle]

@warm zephyr Benefactor was exclusive to people who supported the game during Early Access and should remain that way tbh. Especially since any skin for gifting the game could (and certainly would) be easily abused (just gift the game to a random friend or make a secondary account and gift the game).

[warm zephyr]

tbh i just want other ways to get that skin

[toxic jay]

would be interested to know what you think about the challanges in hunt.

because i always think these could be much better, increasing the fun. i dont even try to complete them all, i just pick the "kill hunters" or other high stars quests and repeat them till i finished my weekly.

as someone that normaly likes to use skins, i couldnt be less botherd by getting the normal rewards, other then BB/Money.

[tribal wyvern]

It looks absolutely ass & is for a Chain pistol.
Who the hell even plays with that besides memeing

Let them have it

[hazy quartz]

i actually like all the chain pistol skins, but i barely ever use chain pistols, because they are simply not good...
i have the benefactor and wouldn't mind if there would be other ways to get it. but can't speak for other benefactor owners obviously.

[nova canyon]

I think that keeping some weapons skin exclusive is a good thing, it reward older/more active player
And since you Can pick up weapons on dead body, it just make a better trophy

[warm zephyr]

i must say that people don't use it often though

[nova canyon]

That makes it even more of a nice trophy

[outer wedge]

I think its only the Obrez that has a Blunt edge ? we could have more variants with blunt edge ? so we can club those emulators in 1 hit such as a romero club or a lebel club or something like that, no?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah I have one in my inventory for years, just as a throphy. Encountered it maybe 2 times(?)

[sharp veldt]

We have stated that we have no plans to ever make The Benefactor available again. We want to reward the very Early Hunters

[queen jungle]

@outer wedge I'm not entirely sure what you are requesting in your suggestion 🤔

[marsh pine]

You guys need to get a new server provider. The current one is such garbage

[outer wedge]

Hi, you know how the Obrez Mace, more like that i guess, now we have the Talons that work like a the 2h Axe, i think having a couple of 2h variants that worked like the Hammer i guess.. xD

[toxic jay]

Tbh at first this sounded a bit weird to me, because blunt would be "all except talon weapons" in my eyes, but yeah forgot obrece mace. A sawed of romero/sawed of springfield mace could be nice, too.

[paper kernel]

sawed off? why cant I strap a bill-guidsarme to my full size Springfield dammit

[unborn dagger]

@hazy quartz Antidote is such an oddly not well thought out consumable. Why isn't it similar to Mithradist where it only reduces the time you're poisoned? It doesn't make any sense for it to be a complete counter with nothing to counter it back.

[severe hinge]

How would u buff antidote to still make it competitive then?

Maybe revert back to 30 min and 1 hr duration?

[unborn dagger]

I feel the duration is good with the way it is. I'm still thinking the entire poison feature and even the traits should be reworked. Poison should be similar to bleed(Unless I am wrong), the more you apply, the heavier it gets and certain weapons would have levels of poison(Light, medium, and heavy). Antidote should be reducing that duration making you need to apply more hits with poison and mithradist would either be taking away the visual effects or letting you heal but still have those visual effects.

[hazy quartz]

i didn't suggest an antidote buff but an antidote nerf.

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[severe hinge]

Yeah but I'm saying that it's already underpowered

The pick rate is really low for a reason

Why take antidote when you can take regen or stam

[hazy quartz]

this was in mind with the new poison buff and many running antidotes again which simply just counters poison.

[severe hinge]

Ig we'll see how much that impacts the meta

Maybe it'll make antidote more viable but I'm not so sure

[queen jungle]

@queen jungle As much as I'd like the idea, the devs have shot down the idea of rain in the past stating that it'd impact sound too much

[nova canyon]

Sound and also the engine lol

[queen jungle]

ok but what about snow? it does not make any sound 😄

Snowy map would be so cool and awesome

[nova canyon]

It doesn't snow very often in Louisiana

[queen jungle]

they don't have to make Louisiana map

[burnt mulch]

snow crunch and footsteps may alter the gameplay unpredictably a lot as well.

[queen jungle]

there is so many states in US

[nova canyon]

Well, since the game happen in Louisiana, they do

[queen jungle]

is this game about only Louisiana? 😄

[nova canyon]

yes

[burnt mulch]

kinda is where it's set, yeah.

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[burnt mulch]

wtf is a sparks amateur

[queen jungle]

ok but it's online game, they have to move and adapt, they have to spread plague further

why not?

Don't have big knowledge about US states

[burnt mulch]

[queen jungle]

but there should be few with snowy areas

not exactly Alaska

Imagine footstep sounds on snow

[burnt mulch]

snow would likely take a lot of dev work too, it's not like you can just change the lighting like with dusk or something.

I am imagining footsteps in snow, they leave marks

[queen jungle]

#game-ideas check my second post

[nova canyon]

I'm just picturing how the servers would struggle with that, what a mess it would be

[queen jungle]

your thoughts?

[burnt mulch]

I'm like, somewhat down for snow ig but I'm not super enthused and a bit skeptical of it.

[queen jungle]

"almost"

or maybe zombie gators?

[burnt mulch]

how would they act differently from water devils?

[queen jungle]

imagine gator when it's ribs are visible

[nova canyon]

I'm down for snow because sound of crunchy footstep would be cool, but i'm not down for it because of moving the game out of the bayou, and for performance of the game lol

[queen jungle]

dunno, crawl silently in water

and grab ya

[nova canyon]

He only corrupts humans

[queen jungle]

god what is wrong with you people 😄

[nova canyon]

Water devil are just an accident

[queen jungle]

I didn't even know lore of this game

[burnt mulch]

and we're explaining?

what's wrong?

[fading zephyr]

Cheaters YAY!

[queen jungle]

I just wanted some variety and more things

[burnt mulch]

sure. but I don't agree with variety for the sake of variety.

[nova canyon]

We are just telling you that it's not gonna happen, and why. that doesn't make your suggestion "not cool", don't worry

[burnt mulch]

variety's gotta be justified

[queen jungle]

i didn't make suggestion just to get likes 😐 just really hope someday they will add more variety

[nova canyon]

Yeah, Variety has to be in line with what's already in game

[burnt mulch]

the ""solution"" to gators being rare is to have a gator boss instead, which is another common suggestion.

[queen jungle]

ok

what you will say about COW

OWL

[burnt mulch]

(I don't think owls roost on the ground either.)

[queen jungle]

what about them?

[nova canyon]

yeah, Owls stays in tree

[burnt mulch]

I mean I guess they could add cows.

ah it would be pigs huh.

[queen jungle]

yep, picks they have very high pitch voice when they are injured

would be awesome

same as cow models

[nova canyon]

but owl are solitary animals tho

[fading zephyr]

Dude kills entire team in seconds and his name is all boxes and crap, makes no noise while sprinting. lol love it...so glad I support these fkin devs

[queen jungle]

not on the ground, but can sit on gates or bushes

[nova canyon]

One single owl wouldn't make the sound of a flock of crows

[burnt mulch]

I'm pretty chill with owls as ambient sounds.

[queen jungle]

only during night ofc

or some crickets

in fields

and frogs at swamp areas

[nova canyon]

There are already crickets sounds

[queen jungle]

as this plague does nothing to animals - it means they can add it

oh I didn't notice

[nova canyon]

that's even how you can tell it's a night map without even seeing it

Well, Night and dawn

[queen jungle]

I'm focusing on seeing things during night 😄

[warm zephyr]

@sleek steeple do you know how f2p games usually turn out to be ?

[sleek steeple]

Well it wouldn’t be completly free since you have to buy Playstation plus;)

[warm zephyr]

predatory monetisation . go figure

[sleek steeple]

I would just love to see this game getting more poplair

[queen jungle]

@sleek steepleif they make it free, it means it will also add unicorn shitskins.

I means that I will uninstall and never play this game again

[sleek steeple]

I love the game and i Think everyone should see how the game is

[sleek steeple]

Haha

[queen jungle]

we all do

[warm zephyr]

if they want to try it they will try it

[queen jungle]

that's why are we here

But, they can actually make bigger discounts during sales

[sleek steeple]

But Wouldn’t it be fun to see everyone playing Hunt showdown, streamers and friends, and seeing it everywhere on social media

[nova canyon]

If game is F2P, they'll just download it, launch it, die, and unistall

It's a niche game, and will always be. Making things F2P would only make things worse

[sleek steeple]

Not a lot of people know the game, cause no one streams it or sponser it or anything

[nova canyon]

It's top 51 on steam right now

[sleek steeple]

It would, trust me

[nova canyon]

For a 5 Y.O game, it's a well known game

[nova canyon]

Trust me, i play a lot of niche games, and some of them went F2P, then they ran out of money and died

And i played Deathgarden, so i know my way around dying games

[sleek steeple]

The most poplair games in the world is ftp

[nova canyon]

If a game has a low player base, giving it for free would just cost money

[nova canyon]

Yes but it's also aimed at casual player, and not a niche game

[sleek steeple]

I never Said make it free to play, just free on Playstation plus it would give Them some Money ig

Just because it would be free to play doesn’t mean it would get battlepass

[nova canyon]

Also, look at who run F2P games

[sleek steeple]

But games like that are over 100 times more poplair, i really like Hunt showdown and i want to see it grow

[nova canyon]

Most of the popular F2P out there are under the propriety of Tencent

[unborn dagger]

Uh yes I prefer Hunt to not be ftp....

Lol

[ripe basalt]

[unborn dagger]

I really don't care for more players discovering it if the devs need to ruin the game's vision for it.

[nova canyon]

@worn olive As much as i'd like more personality for legendary hunter, voice line that couldn't be heard would go against one of the game rule that is that everything that make intradiegetic noise can be heard by others

The only thing that can't be heard are pings and map because they are extradiegetic and would expose player a bit too much

[worn olive]

Yeah I understand I just thought I could put a “very out there” suggestion

Honestly it’s pretty much a huge personal preference

[hazy quartz]

what if they communicate telepathically? 🤔

[worn olive]

Problem solved lol

[hazy quartz]

like supernatural stuff is already in the game

i really would love an addition like this if it doesn' come with drawbacks for stealth

[worn olive]

That’s what I’m saying

[nova canyon]

In fact, their communication are what you say on VOIP

But nobody use voip

[worn olive]

Would a team voice chat work then

[unborn dagger]

I mean I wouldn't mind it. Like if they don't want to do that Crytek could add different voices for getting damaged and getting killed

[tribal wyvern]

I wouldn't mind a voip that is only heard by the teammates.
Like both a version they hear & don't hear.
People already use Discord as premades, so i feel like any comment that it wouldn't fit the game bla bla is kinda moot.

[faint sparrow]

@worn olive Atlesst personally I feel as if voice lines wouldn't fit hunt's kinda theme

Like it worked well in apex because it's a game and they're just messing around. But like personally I feel as hunter wouldn't be able to joyfully yell, "medkit here"

Or really just say anything at all

[hazy quartz]

so hunt is not a game? 🤔

[worn olive]

i was thinking more on the teamwork aspect of dialogue not just announcing things just to make characters talk

[faint sparrow]

Sorry wrong wording on my part

Apex legends are competing in a game/tournament

[hazy quartz]

ah so they are not actually killing each other?

[faint sparrow]

Seemingly no

[hazy quartz]

ah, would make sense

[worn olive]

i would never think about comparing apex to a game like hunt

i cant find many similarities

[faint sparrow]

Idk you said "medkit here" as an example

And Alex screams that

Apex* legends scream that

[worn olive]

but everyone teammate hears that through some sort of mic the legends have

i was thinking like if a teammate could use an ammo box that they walked past and missed you can remind them

very specific honeslty now that i think about it

the character wouldnt shout across the bayou at a team mate to pick up a medkit so like only when their close

[faint sparrow]

Idk if that gave hunters the ability Talk it would just ruin voip in my opinion

Especially if enemies can't gear it

And honestly the pings you give are pretty easy to understand

Having some dude scream "enemy here" would just feel really bad imo

[hazy quartz]

i don't think it has to do with "easier to understand" but giving hunters more live and character. especially legendaries.

[humble knoll]

So u don't like my idea of banning people who team in quick play and bounty hunt but u banned my friend for teaming in quick play like so u don't like my idea of banning people to team in qp and bh but u went ahead and banned my friend BEKAH4CHIST for teaming in quick play like how does that make sense

Look at how much dislikes I got

She doesn't know how to contact u guys so I'm doing it for her

[sharp veldt]

Pre round teaming is against ToS. This is defined as queuing into the same match to team up, on purpose. It is acceptable to find friends or make a bayou negotiation IN MATCH, but not if you plan on doing it before the match starts.

You can contact Customer Support through these instructions if you need them, #customer-support

[sharp veldt]

That message also says "teamkilling" not "teaming." So seems like the answer is clear

[tribal wyvern]

Was just bout to say aswell, that says teamkilling.

Btw please more hunters with titles like this
I also had one with "Headshot." 😄

And i think one had Stinky

[sharp veldt]

I had a "bang bang" once

[tribal wyvern]

aah ye had that one aswell

It's like insta buy when i see em, regardless of what loadout they come with

[sharp veldt]

thats how i feel about the tier 1 "violet" hunter. it's the tier 1 lady that has a long black braid, white shirt, and black skinny jeans. it's basically me with a braid LOL

[tribal wyvern]

Haha , do they take commisions to put yourself in the game? XD

Should have a support tier like Patreon

[sharp veldt]

nah, it's been there longer than I've been around. But it was very exciting when I saw her, and now I have claimed her. when someone else is playing her as an enemey, i will say "it's the me skin"

[tribal wyvern]

Ye 😄

[fluid locust]

apparently they don't make enough money off games sales, might as well make it free at this point with the amount of cosmetics there are

[white temple]

wouldn't be surprised if 2.0 was the free to play release

[frosty garnet]

@lyric rivet, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
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**Berthier Chauchat "trench" conversion**
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<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=548uS6yYMhI>```

[lyric rivet]

i followed the exact guidelines ffs

[inner loom]

You didn't.
'Title: Text
Description: Text'

[unborn dagger]

^

[marsh pine]

Again, any chance for a new server provider instead of trying to just band-aid the current one?

[sick anvil]

Server management partner is fine the issue lies in the servers that have not aged well with the excesove growt of complexity of the games code

[sick anvil]

What other MSP does have the same choice of locations that can cover almost every region and has the amount of dedicated leased lines ?

The only issue with AWS is they will not buy Dedicated Servers for your project and if they will they will charge you a 40% premium

Does not matter what Software solution your run if you have no control over the iron underneath

[frosty garnet]

@marsh latch, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
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[queen jungle]

@rough wyvern You are aware you're comparing a small company of a few hundred people to massive corporations with thousands?
Last time I checked the credits, there were a total of about 100 people involved in the making of Hunt and that included artists, the community team, etc.

New maps or bosses take a lot of time for small teams

The Level Design team consists of seven people according to the credits.

[rough wyvern]

and wheres the problem to experiment with new game modes.... for example. deathmatch on one compound... or make a map consisting of 4 compounds and throw like 4 teams single boss into the mix... u dont need to reinvent the universe new... damn take a look at warzone, its recylcing the "modes" all the time, now they have a deatchmatch mode.... makes the game feel fresh and u dont have to develpe new elemets........ MIDNIGHT SOCIETY i hope u wont fail me

[wind stream]

the issue there is splitting the playerbase

there are regions that already have trouble filling higher elo lobbies

[nova canyon]

Or EU Morning even

[rough wyvern]

hmmmm... whyy?? check steam charts!! the potential is there, poeple want NEW STUFF, comin back every event but leave dissapointed..... -.- damna invest in somethin fresh, try it, u can get rid of it, when doesnt work..... all my friends feel the same way, but we are haradcore hunters stayin at hunt because of the poeple....

[mint coral]

the bayou is not a place, it's a people

[nova canyon]

You know that investing in something that won't work is a loss of money right ?

[lethal oyster]

We already have 3 game modes, remember. Quickplay is already an afterthought for Crytek as well as the broader community. Trials has been abandoned entirely. So splitting dev resources and player engagement isn't only a bad idea, history by now has shown it doesn't work.

[nova canyon]

and QP already has a really low pop

[sick anvil]

Do not forget new content = more bugs

and more bugs = the clapped out Broadwell EP processors go kabloey

The current known issues list is longer than star wars opening rolling text

[nova canyon]

More bugs also mean more people complaining here

And i don't want that

[lethal oyster]

What could be an option however is what the Plants vs Zombies games do (of all things).
They always have their default game mode (TDM) available to players for people who want a familiar experience, while the other play option cycles through different game modes with different objectives every week (i think).
At one point it's a PvE horde mode, next comes a team elimination stile mode and, next a Deathmatch with only certain characters with certain loadouts unlocked and so on.

So if hunt would add more variety in game modes, this playlist kinda thing would probably be the best way to do it.

[nova canyon]

but it wouldn't fix the main issue that would be splitting the player base

[lethal oyster]

True but then, we already have 2 modes

[sick anvil]

QP is not atracting players because it is not rewarding enough

[lethal oyster]

Not saying it's good, just the best way to incorporate many different game modes. Still only having 2 options would be the least player division possible while maintaining the ability to create as many game modes as they want

[sick anvil]

Then again i can not imagine any game mode i would play over BH

[lethal oyster]

Same but then, replacing quickplay with a playlist rather than the semi-popular solo mode it is now might be good for the people who are looking for a different experience

[mint coral]

don't you think that a new appealing game mode could bring new players in ? (I'm not convinced)

[sick anvil]

Then again the dedicated players of QP would just say F that

[lethal oyster]

Right

It's a tough balance for sure

[nova canyon]

No

[sick anvil]

While QP is low population as it is there are some players that only play QP as it is , i was one of them 600 hours sunk in to QP only

[mint coral]

ok then, what makes hunt not appealing to fps players ? the slow pace ? the gun mechanics ?

[sick anvil]

when i imagine at that time if i could only play QP at only limited times i would have asked for a refund

[lethal oyster]

It's a huge risk. There's a huge barrier since it will have to attract enough players to fill this new game mode on its own. BH and QP are already struggling in some circumstances. So if it's a good game mode but doesn't attract that many people, we have an even more split player base. This means crytek wasted a huge amount of resources and even hurt their game doing it.

[lethal oyster]

Understandable. It's too late to change it now. I'd argue implementing it the way it is now was a mistake to begin with but eh, it is what it is

[sick anvil]

Hunt is a Niche game . It is a First person shooter but unforgiving most guns kills with two hits in most cases , most other FPS you have room for error . it also does not help when you look at the store page and upfront you are greeted with same vibes as Train simulator

[mint coral]

Yes I agree. However, one might say that QP and BH are not that different since you need to find clues in both game modes. I know it's a rough comparison but I wouldn't be surprised that many people see it like that.

[sick anvil]

then imagine buying the game and even before the tutorial starts you already are greeted with the message " Fuck you gimme money "

keep in mind this is 30 minutes after you have spent 39.99 that is roughly the install time

The tutorial is umm laughable

Then another not appealing thing is the fact that some one that plays CS GO is used to run 300+fps and boots up hunt and gets 30FPS

[lethal oyster]

How does that relate? Aren't we talking new game modes?

[sick anvil]

that relates to the question above why is Hunt not more appealing to FPS players

[lethal oyster]

But how does it say fuck you give me money?

[mint coral]

most of the points you raise are also true for tarkov, right ?

[sick anvil]

The first thing that pops up for new players right after the gamma setting screen is the News feed

even before the tutorial

[lethal oyster]

Oof ok I see

Nvm then. Hate the damn thing anyway tbh. News Feed can go away nobody would complain

[sick anvil]

Dunno about tarkov how that one runs on average FPS player PCs and etc but i would think some do apply

i have had friends who bought the game i did get them in BH they had fun while playing with but they dropped the game after about 2 weeks in cause it was not fun anymore

[mint coral]

Tarkov is poorly optimised, unforgiving and punitive, but the player base is much bigger, how can we explain this ?

[sick anvil]

Guns go BRRRRR

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-a-machine-gun-vanguard-firing-a-machine-gun-intense-gunfire-open-fire-gif-20295147

that

[nova canyon]

Modern setting, and totally different gameplay mechanics

[sick anvil]

I do not think most FPS players want a game that does not have guns go brrr

[nova canyon]

Yeah, people like their full auto AK

[sick anvil]

Ill DM ya

[mint coral]

yeah I guess you're right about the Brrrr guns :/

[tribal wyvern]

@rough wyvern
I do wanna add the Desalle map is not over a year old. It's 10 months old.

[sick anvil]

Was it not July when desalle dropped or was July ear bleed

[tribal wyvern]

It came the same time as Light the shadow

And looking at when videos came out for it

[sick anvil]

cool

[tribal wyvern]

@sharp arrow
That already exists, its called "Adrenaline."

@queen jungle
I like the Owl sounds. But I believe the water devils made the alligators extinct in Louisiana.

@shy rock
I don't know if Rachta Z has a skin, but Psychoghost has the Lebel marksman skin & Archie has Sparchie, the spark sniper skins.
So theyhave done it before.

Found this on Reddit aswell

[nova canyon]

griffin is also a streamer skin

Wolfmouth too

[tribal wyvern]

Lmao looked up Padarius about the Redneck release, 10/10 video

[sick anvil]

Sohinki black mamba

Lately not even partners do

[tawny meadow]

Yeah they don't do that anymore

[sick anvil]

i recall spring chicken was last batch

[nova canyon]

Wasn't there one after that ?

[queen jungle]

There haven't been any partner skins in a long time, it's likely been discontinued.

[sick anvil]

I am not 100% certain but i thought the very last set was with spring chicken

[tribal wyvern]

Black Mamba was to much for my internet, it just crashed as i looked on the skin

[nova canyon]

Not sure tho, it take a long time in between batches, mostly because of the process

[tribal wyvern]

That is unfortunate, but pretty cool for the ones who got it.

I've bought a few of those skins without knowing it was attached to a streamer, like Redneck, the lords prayer

[nova canyon]

i think i have them all

[tribal wyvern]

Tooth & claw i had no idea was Neenohs

[nova canyon]

oh, no, i don't have griffin

[mint coral]

brace yourselves guys, Terra is about to post something huge

[rough wyvern]

guys, guys, im shocked of your hehavior... i just expressed my opinion, about how i feel and many poeple i know feel about the game. just take the feedback, rethink or throw it away.... what i see. u are "defending" against my statements, thats nothin i wanna participate in.......... just sayin, when companies say, we doin everythin fine, its too expenive to try, we cant do this because of that.... THIS COMPANIES FAIL IN THE LONG TERM!!!

[tribal wyvern]

All i did was do an "ackchtyally" on your lenght on how old the new map was 😛

[mint coral]

told ya

[tribal wyvern]

Idk how to spell the meme version of "actually"

[queen jungle]

IIRC the last one to be added was Spring Chicken in 2020. While the detailed legendaries in Hunt certainly take a while to be made, I think we would have seen new ones in the past two years.

[rough wyvern]

but we have new maps now, the changes are so crazy big, FEELS LIKE NEW MAPS... sorry i ever sad somethin 😛

[nova canyon]

i mean, we are defending the fact that you idea won't likely happen, and why. You are the one acting like you are pissed 🤔

[tribal wyvern]

A question, is this name supposed to be a sex joke?

[nova canyon]

Wait it's two years already ? Oh wow i'm old

[sick anvil]

I think it falls down to there was just not enough profitability in streamer skins

[tribal wyvern]

Ye the last name is fine.
But did it had to begin with something that sounds like ma d**k cumming

My friend got the same name yesterday.

I don't think it's random, feels more like they have like 100 set names that just rotates, seen the same ones many times.

[pure quest]

Fritz Flits is still the best name i've hever had on a hunter

[sick anvil]

I had one hunter with the surname White

[nova canyon]

probably a member of the KKK

[sick anvil]

the irony was it was tier one chocolate skin lady

[little carbon]

Poison is really strong against AI. Therefore there is a downside to using it in PvP. Not everything needs to be viable for everything.

[hazy quartz]

crytek put's so much effort in making poison ammo viable for pvp, first poison sense then damage buff, but it's all mostly futile if it just get's hard countered by antidote.
this just kills poison in the crib. and usually barely picked at all, because only very few players dedicate their main weapons to PvE, because PvP is the greater threat.
Everything what can mix up the meta a bit and make it more interesting is a win in my book, and when a simple consumable can completely shut down some creative builds that's just boring.

[sick anvil]

Get rid of the special effect ammo done

no poision no kabloey no fire ammo

its deleted does not need to be viable in pvp

[tribal wyvern]

Just make Spark have bleed with its 149 dmg & i can guarantee its the new meta ;D

[hazy quartz]

yeah making the game more boring by deleting choices

[tribal wyvern]

I mean they've made it far better than it ever was

So they've only added choices.

[spice topaz]

Or deleting bs, depends on the viewpoint 😝

[nova canyon]

it's not BS, just give it a few week

[tribal wyvern]

Just give it a few weeks & it will be less seen than now

I've encountered poison ammo like 3 times since it came out & i've probably played roughly 6-12hrs everyday.

It's going to be non existant as it used to be

[hazy quartz]

i wasn't criticising crytek for what they did, it was just a sarcastic response to the idea to simply remove "special effect ammo"

[inner loom]

In 15 hours of playtime since 1.9 I've encountered one poison sparks and it killed me with a headshot.

[nova canyon]

i've encoutered only a cent poison since update

[inner loom]

I've met one of those, too, ye.
The most 'worrying' thing, which isn't really a worry because I always carry antidote anyways, is that the Silenced Nagants are mosquitoing around more now.

[spice topaz]

I haven't really played much and have not run into the current poison ammo.

[inner loom]

Penetrating surfaces is just so much more valuable than the little screen shake and the heal denial.
There's no healing when you're dead.

Every time I could bring a poison secondary, I carry FMJ instead.

[tribal wyvern]

I love that ppl were so fucking worried Spark poison would be overpowered.
Saw so many "crytek needs to take a look at spark poison, spark poison is to strong, poison will be overpowered."

The only use it has is the memery for your youtube compilation killing ppl with flashbangs

[inner loom]

If anything, fire is more of a danger because unless you're running a regen shot, the next shot is a one-tap, anyways.

[tribal wyvern]

And if you have dragonsbreath you make ppl jump out of their chairs

Fun as fuck.

Ppl panicking losing an entire bar

[inner loom]

I've only ever died to dragon's breath once and it was a clean one-shot from a Spectre at 12m range.
I still think something fishy was up there.
It's just such a bad ammo type.

[tribal wyvern]

Must have been headshot

it can't one tap body

[inner loom]

Fairly sure it can't one-tap head, either.
And not at that range, anyways.

[tribal wyvern]

It can one tap head.
I recall in a dev stream, they said it had to be a headshot for it to oneshot.

Can't recall which, 1.8? 1.7 maybe?

[nova canyon]

If you learn to shoot it from above, it will make people really fear you

[inner loom]

It was a Russian Cain with like a 50KD in a 4-star lobby with less than 10k bounty to their name.
I doubt they're roaming the bayou anymore.

[tribal wyvern]

It also looks cool af

If you watch someone shoot with dragonsbreath, it's just a mass of fire going through the air.

[inner loom]

It looks really cool.

[nova canyon]

ok, i have real feedback

[inner loom]

I just wish it had a little something more.
Because as it is, it's just bad Flechette.

[nova canyon]

Stillwater entrance are still bad

[inner loom]

Stillwater is such an oof.
It's the compound I walk away from most often.

[inner loom]

I think you're remembering that about the Flechette.

Mostly I just enjoy the increased range to kill with my Nagant Silencer Poison ammo.
Especially the headshot range for Hives.
Also being able to headshot one-tap immolators now with the increased damage.
And I've found horses can be body-tapped now, too.
Makes moving silently really quick.

I liked the suggestion that came up recently where Antidote only works for a number of instances.
Especially Hive bombs become really good then.
Just peel off the Antidote, then hit home.
It feels like a fun idea.
And Antidote doesn't lose its purpose then.

[unborn dagger]

Yea I was about to say they literally introduced poison sense lol

[tribal wyvern]

The poison sense is dogshit even if antidote didn't exist.

[unborn dagger]

Ok? Doesn't take away from my point that they're trying to make poison viable for pvp

[hazy quartz]

but the argument is crytek is trying to make poison viable in PvP, so poison sense not being good can not be used as an argument against making niche builds more viable. if anything poison sense might also need a rework.

[tribal wyvern]

I think it's just a few ways to make it more viable ye.
Which it is. I mean Bomblance is still viable even tho Bulwark makes it not a oneshot.

[hardy coral]

Bomblance isn't viable for pvp

Not at all

[hazy quartz]

yeah the more builds become viable the longer the game stays interesting, crytek knows that. so if a simple consumable makes people abandon interesting builds and go back to long ammo meta it's worth rethinking that consumable.
I don't understand why everyone is so hellbent on shutting down the idea of a antidote rework.
if after a antidote rework poison turns out to be opressive we still can rebalance poison, but just how antidote works is so noninteractive.

[tribal wyvern]

Ofcourse it is

[hardy coral]

It's effectiveness is closer to a knife than any shotgun

[hazy quartz]

the bomblance projectile works like a delayed shotgun/crossbow which isn't even guaranteed to work.
like take crossbow and knife and you have basically the same thing minus the boss/meathead killing ability

[hardy coral]

With massive drop and spread

Long reload

[unborn dagger]

Exactly that's why I find it confusing why Crytek doesn't change antidote. It makes no sense with the way it works

[tribal wyvern]

Just because someone can avoid the poison effect doesn't mean it's useless.
You still do the full dmg.

Spark is still doing 149dmg, regardless of an antidote shot

[hazy quartz]

the poison effect is rendered useless, just can take default ammo or fmj instead.

[hardy coral]

It's just not very fun or intuitive if your effect can be nullified with no real feedback to you.

[tribal wyvern]

Right, but you're still doing dmg to them.
Which seems better than it doing reduced dmg or no dmg.

[hardy coral]

Always been the issue with antidote shots

You literally can't tell if your poison did anything or not, so siding on caution you need to think it did nothing.

[tribal wyvern]

Poison sense can tell you that.

tbf

[hardy coral]

A perk

[tribal wyvern]

Just finding solutions to your dilemma 😄 .
But ye i mean there could be some feedback that he is immune.

That would be a step in the right direction

You can know if someone has salveskin for example if it takes longer to burn them

[hardy coral]

Or change poison. Because currently the effect itself is too strong too.

[sonic goblet]

an audible scream in pain

if you get poisoned

like a shrill shriek

[tribal wyvern]

Or he just goes around vomiting everywhere, wobbling, can't aim

[unborn dagger]

Lol

That would be something

[hazy quartz]

i still want to hear a compelling argument why a antidote rework would be bad like make it based on how many poison hits they can take before it breaks, and also give feedback on hit if they have antidote and when they are poisoned.
interactive game mechanics are always more interesting than passive effects like total immunity for a time.

[hardy coral]

You are deafened, vision messed up, can't heal. Dum dum only bleeds you, incind only burns you, both keep their damage and lose their pen like poison. Poison is the odd one out and is too powerful if it weren't for antidote

[tribal wyvern]

If it was based on shots taken, how would it work vs leeches, hive lady, hive bomb, poison cloud

[unborn dagger]

Honestly that's what I suggested a long while back. I don't think it received too well tho

[hardy coral]

Probably best to change poison ammo entirely to instead be "venom ammo" that only has the prevention of healing effect, but in turn isn't effected by antidote shots or mithridatist.

[hazy quartz]

one leech bite is one hit taken away from protection, hive swarms do many hits in a short time so they would eat up the antidote pretty quickly if not effectively dealt with.

[hazy quartz]

i suggested it just recently, yeah very mixed feeback, but no one can tell my why it is a bad idea. like it would be really nice to have a discussion about this if someone could come up with some good contra points.

[tribal wyvern]

Maybe someone just doesn't like the change?

A rework can be good, but depends what it is

[hazy quartz]

i would like to hear why they don't like it

[tribal wyvern]

Fair enough, don't think you'll get a response tho

[hazy quartz]

looks like it

[prime ibex]

@hardy coral Barely anyone uses Antidotes. Back then it was more so of a surprise to get shot by poison. Now it's to be expected, but people would rather bring things that isn't Antidote.

I like the change, but it isn't an incline to use/bring antidote cause mithradatist is just as effective.

[queen jungle]

@sleek steeple The devs have stated in the past that an attachment system would require a major rework of the gun system and make balancing guns a lot harder than it is with independent variants.

[sleek steeple]

Yeah i just feel like it would be hela fun

And worth it

[inland ferry]

Just don’t let us have supressed mosin snipers with spitzer ammo…

[buoyant carbon]

how's the reception been on the black market so far?

haven't played in a while

like, is it supposed to never rotate like daily or weekly or something?

that would at least give a reason to check back once in a while

[sharp veldt]

right now we are planning on updating it with future updates. This may change at some point in the future though 🙂

[buoyant carbon]

right, cooolio, any way to check which dlc skins are in the pool for the dlc-weapon kill summons?

[sharp veldt]

Just gotta wait and see. There are some BB skins in there as well now, I'm pretty sure

[buoyant carbon]

good to know, i'll be on the lookout

[atomic sky]

just gonna drop this here
https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/upqd7v/hunt_would_be_better_with_an_active_reload_system/

[native lodge]

gonna be a no from me

[nova canyon]

yeah, it's a no

and i've played the shit out of receiver 1&2

[fluid locust]

Pretty cringe tbh

[atomic sky]

I'm cringe

[unborn smelt]

many of those points are kind of interesting imo and i'd love to give it a try -

BUT, i have to massively disagree with dirtiness of guns effecting gameplay

it sure would be realistic - but it wouldn't be fun for twhat hunt tries to be

Hunt isn't trying to be cowboy tarkov, and in gameplay guns get dirty if you die mostly - so you'd mostly get fucked for dying even more than loosing HP and practically fighting half the server carrying nitros on roids (which is how effective long ammo is against a 125 hp target) or you'd get bent over because the gun you just bought comes with a base dirt level

[nova canyon]

@serene charm A normal bullet pump action would be hella cool, i'm down for it

[sleek steeple]

Omg another dev, I’m a huge fan of the game!

[warm zephyr]

@serene charm no “early access” weapons please

[nova canyon]

He means a weapon unlockable in event and then by normal way like they did with slate

[unborn smelt]

yeah but even that's iffy

[atomic sky]

yea that was the consensus, people just really don't like the idea of having an active mechanic to clean guns, stationary reload, and making gun fights, achem, "EVEN SLOWER"

[unborn smelt]

I and apparently large parts of the community didn't like the long exclusivity period after the slate/model92 event

[unborn smelt]

I do like reloading being slower the more you move - which slows gunplay

[nova canyon]

I agree that it was stangely long

[unborn smelt]

i just think the dirtiness shouldn't affect the guns performance - because that's simply not what fits Hunt IMO

[nova canyon]

But i wouldn't be against the "Play the event to get it" and right after the event, everyone get it, like for the bow

I'm pretty sure that's how new event will work with alamo and sparks pistol

[unborn smelt]

Gun maintenence is something i expect in a survival game, an RPG or even a looter shooter like tarkov

I mean Hunt doesn't even have gun customisation - so maintenance is too much imo

[atomic sky]

i think it sounds worse in theory then in practice. Usually if your downed in a fight then revived, there is a usually a small window of time to get your bearings, heal, and reload your weapon. Adding an assessment of your weapon's condition would only make these "dis-engaged" states more interesting and immersive.

[unborn smelt]

would it tho

you don't really get to clean the weapon

you either need to find the rare oil, or they add another tool/consumable that's a must have if you don't wanna get cucked by rng

[nova canyon]

and people already whine because they feel obligated to carry Choke bombs

and antidote shots

[unborn smelt]

like if someone can come up with a good system for gun maintenance - i'll happily change my mind, but as of now it usually was a huge debuff for already heavily punished players, aka those that lost HP for dying, or a mechanic that adds extra rng to each gunfight

[unborn smelt]

I do understand it for chokes tbh - burning is so frequent, and very little good counterplay available if you didn't bring chokes

but for antidote, there's mithridatist, and poison usually comes with big downsides, like no pen

I'd love to see a lore friendly / immersive in worldspawn choke item

[atomic sky]

pails of water over exploding barrels

[unborn smelt]

smth i could see is a mutated mushroom that can be picked up and thrown, that creates the extinguishing blast on impact, but leaves no cloud

you know - like those

[atomic sky]

i don't think there is such thing as a must-carry tool, might be showing my rank with that one

[unborn smelt]

technically there isn't - but practically there is melee tool + medkit and for many people also the chokes

[atomic sky]

closest i get is the electric lamp; never know when your gonna need to do a suicide charge on a night mission

[round acorn]

Allow me to manually block regions. I'm on Starlink internet. i sometimes get spikes to about 200 from time to time. but when it happens while in main menu, it forces me to Russia. I don't live there, my Starlink exit is not IN Russia but in East USA in Chicago. while in a group. I have to leave the group, manually change the setting, and re join. while solo, I can change it, but only when the game lets me once the lag spike ends. you know my IP address, you can do a lookup on that address for my zipcode to better gear my connection. but for love of god. don't lock me out.

when i don't have a lag spike.

[unborn dagger]

Well chokes don't even have a counter and they come with a lot of benefits

[sharp arrow]

Dauntless technically but, that’s hard and risky

[vital grove]

@queen jungle finally a solution for the concertina spammers. I would unironically run this everygame. I would also want it to break more concertina than a regular slashed weapon to make it better than a knife or saber

[hazy quartz]

you still have to crouch/walk to the wire being an easy target when you remove the wire.
maybe a tiny explosive which is a tool, doesn't do much damage to players or A.I but cleans up wire?

[frosty garnet]

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Any chance we can get some more bludgeon weapons introduced in the game? Sledgehammer is one of the strongest melees in-game but you can only find it in the wild. The only weapon we have that comes close to being bludgeon-specific is the Obrez mace and the damage on it is quite pathetic. Please can we see the obrez Mace damage buffed and maybe even get dedicated hammers/ sledgehammers to bring in-game? And for the absolute weirdos out there, yes a shovel variant too you can carry around```

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Just a minor change: Change the reload speed statistic so that lower reload speeds have a more full bar on the weapon statistics. E.G. on the conversion pistol it shows the regular conversion reload speed to have a half filled bar whilst the chain pistol has a full bar with a longer reload speed```

[queen jungle]

Yea wire spam is very annoying in Hunt, especially due to its finnicky nature

[queen jungle]

I didn’t suggest something like that bc I envisioned this as being silent and quick

[vital grove]

i dunno if you know, but concertina bombs are bullet proof. Someone tossed 3 down between us and revived someone right in my sight. even though my bullets were going 'through' the wire, it blocked every bullet

[queen jungle]

Oh yea I’m aware

Shits stupid

Needs a hard counter

[fluid locust]

Pretty sure long ammo, fmj spitzer and nitro go them if not more

[fluid locust]

It's called a dynamite stick or bundle

[vital grove]

youre missing the point. There is nothing physically obstructing my bullet, I can see them revive with nothing in the way. Either it should cover up a LOT more so that makes sense or make it so they arent bulletproof magic shields

[fluid locust]

^

It's very thicc

Also this game is not grounded in reality

It's like that for game play purposes

If you could shoot through it nobody would use it

Like nobody did before

They had to buff it so many times to make it semi relevant

And even then pretty sure all anybody takes are shots and frags

[grizzled sedge]

too much annoyance to unlock bombs or id run 4 each game

[vital grove]

they're still crazy strong at locking down a building. Takes like 2 bars of stamina with saber to clear it all

[queen jungle]

None of those options are silent or efficient

The wire cutter as I envision is pretty much silent and uses no stamina

[vital grove]

me omw to carry 1 for 1 dynamite to their concertina bombs (Im in a 2 stack, their in a 3 stack. they out number us in gadgets, (they brought concertina trip mines))

literally happened yesterday.

there were so many bombs even if we did have a 1:1, there would still be locked down entrances (they're still camping with shotguns)

[late wind]

@queen jungle. Why not make talon variants into wire cutters? They're inferior to bayonets so why not give them that sideline utilitiy of being really good at cutting through wire?

[native lodge]

I mean they just buffed them, so I doubt they are gonna touch them again

[lilac jungle]

the microtransaction change is actually looking pretty good, the only thing that looks terrible even for price are the bundles

its still easier and preferable to just manually find the ones you like, + the great daily deal thing that makes things about 10-30bb every few weeks

black market is definitely looking good still tho as a bit of a loot-crate mechanic

[queen jungle]

@inner loom all hunters have the exact same hit boxes, no matter their clothing.

[fluid locust]

A. How about don't play duos in trios and then complain about utility. B. Concertina trip mines aren't hard to get rid of. They have significantly less wire. C. Dynamites are universally useful. And who says you have to blow up all the wire? Just go through one side.

And if your complaint is about shotgun camping then have something close range in your loadout. And If you're too afraid to push then why complain about concertina anyway if you never planned on going in to begin with?

[cursive lava]

I genuinely don’t understand why people are complaining about the new post match summary. It’s super easy to understand. Sure maybe the icons aren’t the easiest, but hover your mouse and it literally tells you everything you need to know. Or are we too lazy to hover a mouse?

[unborn dagger]

That would actually be pretty nice to make them stand out more

[nova canyon]

they should be strong against wire, they do rending

[nova canyon]

He want to hear footstep better

wich means he didn't think about why darksight makes so much sound effect in the first time

[unborn dagger]

Yeah that doesn't make... much sense for use tbh.

Like are you in darksight for more than 3 seconds? Although I can understand for necroing someone but like Takyon said above me it's supposed to be hard to hear stuff. I honestly don't think EVERYTHING needs a perk where it can be quieter when using it.

[little carbon]

@alpine burrow Not everyone who is playing a scope is ignoring their teammates. You can absolutely play a scope in compound range. Their utility isn't just range, but also cracks.
And you can find plenty of other annoying teammates:
-shotguns that are afraid to push and just sit in a bush/building hoping someone runs into them.
-silencer loadouts who never uncrouch the whole game.
And many more. Point is, while any of those loadouts can be played in a way that hurts the team, they don't have to. You really shouldn't be judging a players Playstyle by just their primary weapon.

[nova canyon]

@little dome You don't want to be able to skip the banish, it takes roughly 3 minutes, wich is the time you take to go from a corner of the map to another. And it's actually there to give a fair chance to people far from the boss to reach it before people are gone

[alpine burrow]

@little carbon
It’s not so much about judging someone’s play style it’s more after 3k hours on hunt 99%of hunters with scopes tend to sit back, camp, not back up team/revive as they are so far back and some just run to exit after getting a couple of kills if teammates are down. These are most the experiences I have had with snipers on my team and this is the reason for my suggestion.

If you didn’t like it just give it a thumbs down 👍

[nova canyon]

Then you are just falling on bad snipers, and i think it's because you play with randoms tbh

[nova canyon]

This channel is there to comment on suggestion, if he want to comment, he does

You can ? I didn't know that

Also, i think that limiting people playstyle only because you don't like it based on an observation bias is pretty lame. People play how they want

and by playing with random, you basically accept to play with any playstyle

[alpine burrow]

@nova canyon (cos you play with randoms) no shit that’s why I suggested it😂

[nova canyon]

yeah, so if you don't like it, don't do it

[alpine burrow]

Stupid comment @nova canyon doesn’t even make sense?

[nova canyon]

you don't like a certain playstyle, so don't play with random because you can play with random that have this playstyle

[tribal wyvern]

A suggestion, when you recruit, just specifically ask for no snipers.

Seen ppl do it before

[nova canyon]

Yeah, if you don't like how random play, get friend, or just go solo

Or just ask in the recruit screen

[alpine burrow]

And a tick box for no scopes would save a lot of hassle for me and the snipers? Tick box just for team mates not enemy’s? Don’t have a problem with randoms just don’t like playing with snipers

[nova canyon]

Yeah, but by using the random team fill up, you basically agree to play with ANY playstyle

ANY means, sniper, shotguns, or even double machete

If you don't like your mate loadout, you eitheir ask, adapt, or leave

[alpine burrow]

@queen jungle this discussion is about a suggestion I put up asking for a tick box to allow/not allow snipers in your random team to save leaving lobby over and over wasting everyone’s time

Any other load out doesn’t bother me or kd will never leave lobby for those reasons just if I get someone with a scope

[nova canyon]

^

[alpine burrow]

@queen jungle they still have to search again so yea everyone a

@queen jungle whatever

[nova canyon]

yeah, a person dodged will probably just roll for a next team mate without even caring

it's not like it takes 10 minutes to get a team mate

nobody care

also, if you include such a thing, you'd have to include a tickbox for every loadout in the game, because people would just feel entitled to certain playstyle, and it would just be a mess.

It's a random team mate, not a mcdonald menu

[echo forum]

Cost is not a useful argument to it being a straight up upgrade. Otherwise why not give the Nitro a regular ironsight? You see spitzer lebel and mosin commonly but not Nitros..why? Because Spitzer is just broken. It's so commonly used in 5-6 star because it's the only gameplay style that you can have almost 100% control in your engagements.

[nova canyon]

they don't have 100% control of engagement

i mean, there are not many line of 150m that you can keep and see people coming at you

[echo forum]

not really because these guys are never going to push a compound anyway lol

[nova canyon]

Then you can just put the compound between you and them and go away

i mean, even if they have spitzer, they can't shot trough an entire building

nor dirtpile

[echo forum]

if you run the Hunt map tool you can see there are tons of spots to snipe from a compound away and if they run greyhound and you try and run with the bounty they are probably going to get you in their crosshairs. In 3's they'll just spread out and camp a compound. Also they never push the compound and the people inside eventually have t o come out.

[nova canyon]

You know there is a LOT of cover than you can get to escape them right ? Just break sight, use dirtpiles, full building etc, just don't run in a straight line

and also, a birdview of the map is really different from all the bushes, buildings and three that can actually break sight

[echo forum]

man you eventually must traverse an open ground look up the map lol it's not just dense trees. You are limited in your approach to compounds and people know the common routes. Look at games before they added spitzers and now. Much less marksman scopes then. Now every game has a bunch of snipers. Maybe 3/10 of my 5-6 star games are full of fights in the compound

[nova canyon]

if you go trough open ground, you badly panned your road

[tribal wyvern]

You're speaking as if Spitzer was added last patch.
It's been here for well over a year.

[echo forum]

https://survivethis.news/en/new-map-hunt-showdown-crytek-announces-release/ let's not be so smug. Look at the map. It's literally impossible to not pass through a stretch of open ground.

[echo forum]

Yeah and it's about time it's nerfed. The game is hardcore veering into min/max of compound campers with shotgun and long ammo scope campers outside. Anything in between these two suck in comparison.

[nova canyon]

Yeah because at sniper distance, your opponent will most likely get a rive, so the not one tap is a big downside

[echo forum]

You can literally choose to never engage with long ammo sniper or engage at will. You can't just easily leave a compound in a fight. You can easily just leave with long ammo sniper if you don't get a hit.

tbh it's insane that slugs is getting nerfed before spitzers

it is literally FMJ with better velocity instead of the FMJ velocity penalty ....what do you mean lmao...and rifles already require body shots otherwise they're a 2 hit to the body.

[tribal wyvern]

Not exactly, FMJ carries dmg further.

[echo forum]

lmao you can still hit 300m headshots with spitzer!

[nimble swallow]

You barely see Spitzer ever.. The gun costs like 1000 Hunt dollars in total...

[tribal wyvern]

Ye thats not what i said tho

[echo forum]

and they nerfed it for a reas0n..

[tribal wyvern]

I was just saying it's not exactly fmj.

[nimble swallow]

Outplaying Snipers is so incredible easy though. Just run to the opposite side. Easy.

[nova canyon]

Yeah, to give a reason for spitzer

lol

[echo forum]

bruh most 5-6stars are swimming in hunt $$$$$. This isn't Hunt with resets, the game has been released since 2018

[tribal wyvern]

If they're 3 stars sure lol

[echo forum]

it was nerfed far before spitzer came out

[nimble swallow]

I'm 5-6star with 500.000 hunt dollars. I see Spitzner like once every 5 hours or so.
How are people complaining about that and not the shotguns sitting inside allday doing nothing?
But LoNg AmMo is ThE ProBleM

[nova canyon]

Lol no

[nimble swallow]

If they are 6-star as well.
I encounter so many people staying like 100+ meter away.
Just run the oppossite way and they almost never are able to catch you because they are too far away.

[echo forum]

You guys have the shittiest takes on stuff like this. Like advice " just don't get headshot" damn imagine if every pro gamer knew that? They could have 200:1 K/D! Don't contest the sniper? You usually don't even see them. Even with the constant bullshit mouse swerving and jumping you get tagged or 1shot because 800m/s is ez mode to hit a shot.

[echo forum]

if they're shitty. If they know routes they will catch you and these 6 star sniper trios are usually spread out

[tribal wyvern]

Only works if you have either greyhound + deter or a stamshot.
Otherwise they'll catch up easily.

[nimble swallow]

Works almost every game I encounter them.
I must be special then I guess

[tribal wyvern]

Sounds like just kd farmers then who can't be bothered to chase for bounties.

Faced them aswell, had a team that was shooting at the compound, killed one of my teammates, then left.

[echo forum]

bruh I play at 5-6 star with 2.0 K/D. I'm not amazing but not shit. Your advice literally requires omniscience. I would rather die by some C&K slug boy than a spitzer mosin anyday . Shotguns have a con. They need to go to compounds to be useful. You can catch them outside of compounds or even fight them from within a compound but not the same building. Snipers never have to do anything lol!

[echo forum]

the problem is they don't need to go for the bounty to stop you from getting it

[nimble swallow]

Lol
Two tapping with a shotgun from 50+ meter isn't a problem, but Spitzer is 🤣
(Both are fine now btw, i'm not complaining about either xD)

[tribal wyvern]

Personally i'd remove both snipers, spitzer & slugs.
To keep it at marksman/deadeye level & have shotgun actually only be strong where they're supposed to, while also being able to fight back vs a sniper without being shot from 250m.

[nova canyon]

i'd remove everything beside Machete

[tribal wyvern]

^now we talking

[nimble swallow]

Agreed

[tribal wyvern]

🙂

Faced a strong memer using Xbow + machete

[nova canyon]

and then i'd be the king of 6* because i was playing machete before it was cool

[echo forum]

It sucks but I can 2 tap with most guns at that range too. Also you can fucking hear and generally know the location of shotgun boy. I liked the game better without slugs and spitzer because it makes both weapons ultra strong at their ranges and everything else becomes suboptimal.

long ammo velocity nerf happened 3 years ago. Spitzer came out in 2021. Man you must be an MLG pro to never die by a sniper. Insane!

[nova canyon]

i mean, i almost never die to a sniper and i'm not an MLG pro

i just use my two braincells

[nimble swallow]

You know the funny part? Most high 5 / 6-star people who play sniper, actually know how to lead their gunshots.
So even if you remove Spitzner, you'll still get headshotted by those snipers & then you'll just continue complaining.

[echo forum]

lmao I don't run in straight lines and I exhausting jump around and swerve like a little ADD boy but at 150m spitzer is lead like 1 pixel lmao

at 800m/s for 150ms you lead by 0.58m in game. Due to how game perspective works at distance this is like 1 pixel man.

LEbel spitzer is 850m/s Mosin is 820m/s

[tribal wyvern]

Don't recall exactly but Jakey is def right with 800+

[echo forum]

I just loaded up the game and made a loadout to make sure lol and yeah those are right

[nimble swallow]

vanilla is 600(mosin) / 630 (lebel)

[echo forum]

Also it's not like it's easy to magically not get tagged when you're actually fighting other teams in a compound

That's a dumb ass statement. Do MLG pros hit 100% headshots? No. Even if they hit a bodyshot you're now getting 1 tapped by anything someone else in the compound hits you with.

Man this is getting into theorycraft range where all the best players have 80% avg accuracy and 70% accuracy.

it doesn't even have bad bodyshot damage lol at any range where you can actually return fire without another marksman scope it's still a 2 hit to the body. Also this shit isn't even weak at close range when you can bodyshot and quickswap faster than a compact gun without levering can shoot twice.

under 100m it's a 2 hit bodyshot.. above that it's not but still 1 hit headshot and the rate of fire on these guns is basically uppercut tier so you can quickly readjust as your opponent does the chicken dance. If you aren't hitting shots you just leave and reposition with nothing lost. If everyone sniped this game would be shit. It would be a game of looking at pixelated edgy bushes hoping someone goes for the objective. It's a play style that completely discourages people from playing objective.

[tribal wyvern]

100m is 72dmg so ye

96m would be 2 tap

[echo forum]

Did you not see the map i posted earlier? There is probably cover outside of the compounds for like 30% of the map and you have to push open areas before you can get into most compounds. Also like I said the weapon literally doesn't have a problem with spitzer because in medium range it's still a 2 hit to the body. At far range just go for headshots like you would anyways with every gun in the game besides shotgun....If you don't get a headshot in 2 hits just move and now you opponent has to guess where you are.

https://survivethis.news/en/new-map-hunt-showdown-crytek-announces-release/

oh so you have made up imaginary trees? because it doesn't look like trees cover as much of map as you say

most of first two maps have sparse trees except a handful of routes and are intersected by water

do you only take easy to ambush bridges?

I mean even the devs admit first two maps have a sniping problem and that's why desalle was made the way it is. Much more cover on that map.

Desalle has significantly more trees and bushes and rocks than the other maps.

Compounds have more paths buildings more entrances

Sparks doesn't have spitzer..

you actually have to be good to snipe with it

I wonder why I never see it hmm

Spitzer N Slugs Showdown

Why has game devolved into shotgun compound camping and long ammo then? Where is the weapon diversity? Long ammo has been too strong for a while.

What is the point in winnie when long ammo+ qucik swap is still faster than they can shoot twice in ADS with the winnie? It's not good at range, it's not that good close range and at medium range long ammo can still easily beat it. Uppercut is a long ammo pocket cannon that is way too strong ( I use it).I don't really see many winnies since I left 3 star and very rarely karabiner because in my opinion it's ironsight is trash

also scopes have a problem of CoD style quickscoping in this game. If you run crosshair or draw dot you can see they are dead accurate the second you press ADS

Idk man using dot on monitor and in training it seems like it's insta

if it's true it's such a small window to be ineffective

it looks like you just missed in that clip he moved right and you moved left out of the clip. Also why does your game look so weird lmao

It looks like you moved out of your own shot though and that should be banned

It's cheesy to give yourself a visual advantage with a 3rd party program.

[nova canyon]

That sparks shot is a bit too high

[nova canyon]

He has no visual advantage with that shader

[echo forum]

I feel like you shouldn't have the massive advantage of long range and then also be able to quickscope. You should be stuck with hipfire or swap.

[echo forum]

His game looks colorful as fuck the game is normally all muddy looking and harder to see

[nova canyon]

Yeah, that's saturation, that doesn't give any adavantage, just make the color pop more

It's not any easier to see

@queen jungle I'm curious, but with that filter, night should have really more dark colors right ?

since you up saturation black should get darker

[echo forum]

That would be contrast

https://thewiredshopper.com/use-reshade-improve-color-quality-visibility-pubg/#:~:text=ReShade is an important tool,make enemies easier to spot.

[nova canyon]

No, contrast make more difference in between colors, not darker

[echo forum]

A monitor's contrast ratio indicates the depth of blacks – a higher contrast ratio means deeper blacks – and, by extension, better picture quality. It's a very important part of picture quality, so if you want something that looks good (particularly in a dark room), be sure to get a monitor that has good contrast.Nov 4, 2021

[nova canyon]

Bro, i touch up photos almost every day

Contrast make color deeper, helping it being more different from one another, your black will sure look deeper, but your white will also be whiter

[echo forum]

I do drone cinematography as a side gig lol . Contrast tweaking definitely can cause blacker blacks and white whites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_ratio

[nova canyon]

That's why you can up contrast and still lower your white

[echo forum]

god turn you contrast to 0 and it's dark as f on your monitor

[nova canyon]

I do photography as a main job since i'm journalist and paper journalist now takes their photo themselves

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo forum]

idk man surely google can't be that wrong when every result mentions whites and blacks with contrast but I'm going to get banned for being off topic so cya later boys

[nova canyon]

contrast will deepen black, saturation will deepen them too

because there is color in black, nothing is really pitch black

night in hunt is even more blue than black

[echo forum]

Some consider white to be a color, because white light comprises all hues on the visible light spectrum. And many do consider black to be a color, because you combine other pigments to create it on paper. But in a technical sense, black and white are not colors, they're shades.

[nova canyon]

yeah, and as i said, night in hunt is mostly blue

So, contrast wouldn't affect night that much, saturation on the other side will

[mossy sonnet]

people keep quitting games at night, it was much better when everyone could decide when to play at night or not instead of forcing people

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[fluid locust]

You were arguing with a troll who doesn't even have the game installed btw. I wouldn't waste your breath

[little carbon]

If any it's the other way around. Desalle is the most sniper friendly map of the three.
And even desalle isn't really problematic.
Also on the old maps you have a lot of cover to work with.
When outrunning sniper you have to constantly calculate where the sniper could have moved up to and keep obstacles inbetween.

And quickscoping (if we even can call it that, because the penalty does exist) needs to stay. It gives a sniper loadout s chance to stay with their team. It's also absolutely fine balance wise. The only thing it isn't us realistic, but hunt just doesn't go for that

[little dome]

PLEASE READ... the banish is skipped if and only if the server is empty and the last team declared "Land Cleansed". If server not empty and "Land Cleansed" is declared by a team, the whole team receives a penalty in the form of losing a health bar OR reveal their location to all enemy hunters and the banish is still NOT skipped. People literally don't understand what my proposal when giving their thumbs down smh.

[queen jungle]

@mossy sonnet You were never able to choose whether to play night or not, the only way to avoid it was using target contracts (but even those changed randomly every day).

[queen jungle]

@dreamy dock There is plenty of videos out there showing that white shirts are equally hard to spot and Cain has already been nerfed plenty.

[mossy sonnet]

yes you are right, but perhaps it would be better to give the possibility to choose whether to play at night or not, such as in escape from tarkov, in this way you would have users happy to play at night and users happy to be able to play during the day instead of abandoning the game and find empty servers ...

[tight delta]

Where's the videos that they are equally hard to spot? 😂

[queen jungle]

My favourite one was a video that supposedly had a cain sitting in various backgrounds aiming at the player and in the end it was revealed to have been a white shirt.

[silk briar]

@queen jungle Well, no, Cain is hard to spot even with the nerf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE54LY21nt4

[queen jungle]

In my experience, alot of complaints about people sitting in bushes comes from people who just sprint through the map and are surprised when others set up an ambush because they heard them coming from two compounds away

[queen jungle]

Yeah he's not easy to spot but then he's not really supposed to be. You have to move carefully and keep an eye out/anticipate possible ambushes.

[tight delta]

A bit of an ad hominem. "Generally only people who are bad think this".

[brave lintel]

That video was prior to the nerf.

[unborn smelt]

Yes Cain is hard to spot, but lets take a sec with that video, first of the video is pretty low res, even the short time they show reddit already looks blurred for me (playing the video on 1080p which is my native reolution) second is it's just a picture, so the movement which gives away characters very often is not present either, and cain is put against the perfectly matching background here

Yes cain is hard to spot in general - and even harder to spot in the right circumstance (background, time of day), and the worse the graphics the harder to spot.

But here's the point, that's the same for most T3's

spotting felis in the assassin lair is damn near impossible, spotting the regular ghilie T3 in front or even worse, in a bush is damn near impossible.

and even many T1, and 2 hunters are hard to spot against the right backgrounds - but they are ofc by design easier to spot than T3 and legendaries (which are apart from look, de facto T3 Hunters)

[silk briar]

against the right backgrounds, yes
Cain is hard to spot almost everywhere
Why do we have the expression "white short" ? Because ordinary Hunters are spotables
Tier 3 Hunters cost a lot and they are rarer than Tier 1 or 2

It's just not fun, guys just taking a poo-poo pause in the bushes for 20 minutes without moving to get a kill (and yes, i've spectated the games in question)

I know it's a part of the game but this happen too often, 1 or 2 campers in a day, why not but almost every game i have i run into a guy who just stay in his bush and even after killing me, he's waiting for 15/20 minutes without moving, they just wait the others to play and they stay camping to get a good KD/A

[nova canyon]

Then that would give too much informations

[unborn smelt]

well you acknowlege it yourself -
We have expressions like "White shirt" because T0 / T1 are by design far easier to spot than higher Tier hunters.
That is intended behaviour

And as said before legendaries are considered T3 for pretty much all intents and purposes

that's the reason they start with 3 traits

[queen jungle]

Such a mechanic would tell the team if there are any other players still alive or not. Not knowing this unless you've counted 10 other bodies yourself is an important part of what makes Hunt the game it is. You don't have a kill counter or feed on purpose, you're supposed to always be on the edge unless you've seen every other player yourself.

[brave lintel]

@rough wyvern There is a known issue with windows 11 and the game crashing after every game / death. Also would probably bug report this.

[unique holly]

‚,

[tight delta]

@unique holly Post to #feedback channel as well, this channel is reserved mainly to discussing stuff that has been posted to aforementioned channel.

[unique holly]

sorry, feedback channel has slowmode enabled

[tight delta]

Right right. That sucks 😦

[queen jungle]

While we appreciate any feedback, please make sure your next iteration does not violate the #discord-rules several times.

[fluid locust]

So a paid skin isn't supposed to be able to be seen gotcha

[queen jungle]

You are twisting my words and you know it.

[fluid locust]

I'm just making a broad assumption like this

[grizzled sedge]

thats not an assumption, you might want to check the dictionary

[dusty pendant]

There are plenty of free skins that have similar or better camouflage than Cain. Even before the, like, 2?, nerfs.

[nova canyon]

I mean, ghillie T3 has Always been in the game

Put it in Stillwater Bayou, not Moving, you won't see him either

[unborn dagger]

Yeah like where's the nerf on ghillie suits lol

[fluid locust]

ghillie suits are only good in bushes while cain is universally good camo everywhere

[late wind]

Imagine not being able to spot a bright white naked weirdo.

[hazy quartz]

maybe i should start walking around naked on the street so nobody will notice me
basically like invisibility

[late wind]

Just get a backpack first.

[hazy quartz]

yeah a huge backpack made of skulls will improve my camo even more!

[late wind]

If you can't spot Cain there's only three excuses. But three easy remedies.

You have a 1950's TV. Get a new one.
You're legally blind. Get glasses.
You have cataracts. They have surgery for that now.

[vocal sapphire]

Nice customer support here: got 3 months later some random report that "your message was offensive and got deleted" nice not even a mention what exactly was the message. great job

better yet reconnecting is more fxxed up than ever.
impossible to reconnect when enemies are in the nearby compound. Why in fusk ?
a month ago we had a small strat to hide in ze bushes to get our 3rd man back, but recently after 1.9 the reconnect is so "pleasantly creamed up" that even that will not help.

[acoustic dirge]

Highly agree.

[fluid locust]

Imagine crying about the uppercut and shotguns being op like every day. And a majority of your suggestions being down voted into oblivion because your ideas are as bad as you are.

[dusty pendant]

Okay Stag has some hot takes but the Cain one is actually reasonable

[little dome]

Yes I am aware of that. therefore if the team wrongly declared there are nobody else in the lobby they will receive a penalty to have their location revealed or have their health bar burnt. There is a price to pay for haphazardly calling "land cleansed" vote.

[fathom geyser]

istg if crytek dares to add a battlepass to this game im refunding

[hearty rivet]

Hope you didn't play more than 2 hours then 😄

[worthy knoll]

What would be so bad about it?
I would not buy it but as long as it's just some skins I would not care

[cursive lava]

@rapid wren speaking of calming down, may be time to step away from your computer. I don’t remember the last time I cringed so hard reading someone’s feedback. Yikes.

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[sick anvil]

@rapid wren You must be lucky , most recently its two to three packs of dogs within their trigger range , 80 of all grunts have makeshift weapons , meatheads being accompanied by hives . Meatheads chasing not poisoned hunters across the compound , and emulators next to walking barbwire

[lone granite]

#feedback message

Is feedback moderated? More of a rant from someone who can't deal with AI. When we getting a bot to clean it up? lol

Trust me. I'm contemplating popping open a Heineken and just laughing manically for the next 5 minutes.

[cursive lava]

@rapid wren’s rant is absolutely worth making fun of and laughing at. “Get your heads and egos out of your rectums!”

Anyone else read this like a trailer park redneck?

[rigid basalt]

@calm widget there is already a system in place

u dont loose hunters till lvl 10

and also have an mmr of 1 stars till lvl 10

[queen jungle]

Also, there used to be a more extensive new player queue, but that resulted in many, many empty matches until you got out.

[prime ibex]

@queen jungle Sure 0 stars exist in the game

0 Star means they don't own the game

[echo forum]

Why should the sniper have 1hit kill lethality and ease at all ranges? That's just stupid. Perhaps slugs should have 1 50m range too so the shotgun guy can stay with his bush wooky friends?

[mighty eagle]

I've seen a few suggestions to add Linux support, have the devs said anything about this? I'd love to try it on my steam deck lol

[unborn dagger]

You're only proving his point. You're not supposed to know, this isn't call of duty or another BR title.

[molten jasper]

Since the 1.9 update, seems like fewer trades and more aim punches.

[mighty eagle]

I've seen many more trades since 1.9

Had 3 trades in 1 game last week lol

[little carbon]

They don't have any more 1 hit kill lethality than any other rifle. With spitzer it's even less. Especially considering that spitzer in engagements below 200 is almost a straight downgrade. The damage loss matters a lot. Especially in conjunction with it's atrocious ammo economy.

[mighty eagle]

I wish shotguns couldn't 1 tap me to the body from 15m

[little carbon]

And it's not stupid. It would be bad game design if you couldn't work with your team or would actually be punished for playing with your team. Some game design choices are made to control play patterns and make sure that the optimal play remains teamwork.

And as others pointed out, it's not that hard to counter a sniper if you have good game sense.

[echo forum]

bruh countering a sniper is so boring I would rather just go play sudoku. "Hey man you can counter a shotgun with slugs, just don't go near the compound" Damn great game design that enforces mexican standoffs because no one wants to move outside their ez mode weapon range.

[echo forum]

Same. To me it's a shame that this game has the classic shotguns/sniper problem. I wish the game just balanced the weapons in other ways that made sense(ADS time, moving accuracy,sway etc) and we could have realistic weapon ranges and scalings so it doesn't turn into " If you know they have shotgun don't go near compound" " If you have sniper never go into compound". It's just boring and actually restricts the amount of tactics.

[hardy coral]

A lot of guns counter supposed "op weapons" with some good positioning.
If you're getting done over by snipers you've already positioned yourself poorly.

[echo forum]

this is just nonsense lmao if you don't take a sniper you can't fight them when you try to extract and if you're fighting in a compound against another team it's so easy for a sniper trio to start taking shots at you from 150-200m away

[radiant river]

^

[hardy coral]

Just another positioning problem, if they get a 150-200m angle on you consistently then that's your problem.

[radiant river]

Ur trolling

The duo sitting in a bush waiting for you to loot a body to kill me who then reposition to hold the res is very fun

[echo forum]

yo bro just never loot lmao

[hardy coral]

Then don't loot the body. If you're getting killed a third party while you're unaware then that's your problem for not counting teams or keeping track of them.

[radiant river]

So true

[hardy coral]

Plus if a body is in the open, it's always an invitation for anyone to camp, no matter what gun or distance.

[queen jungle]

If a duo sitting in a bush 150-200m away manages to hold your team down, that's pretty impressive tbh.

[radiant river]

What mmr are you

[hardy coral]

I'm 6 star

Probably like 3300-3500

[radiant river]

They're not holding you down but there's no way for you to fight back

[echo forum]

lmao you can't magically know someone is sitting in a bush especially with how shitty the texture pop in is in the game and how edgy all the foilage is

[radiant river]

It's not engaging or interesting

Idk how you can defend kd farmers

[hardy coral]

If they're not holding you down, move away

You're just complaining that scopes exist

[radiant river]

Wow that's lots of fun in this pvp game

[hardy coral]

PVP with a PVE objective. You can win matches without encountering or having to fight players.

But obviously yeah, people play for the PVP.

[queen jungle]

You just need to get close. There are few areas in Hunt so open that you don't have a way of moving from cover to cover. DeSalle was designed with lots of cover in mind and the older to maps have had lots of changes done over the past few patches to add more cover and reduce open areas.

[echo forum]

bro if everyone played like the typical long ammo sniper there would be no one actually doing the objective and the game would be boring as fuck. Think about how shitty the playstyle is for the game and how much easier spitzer made it

[queen jungle]

But ultimately snipers have their place in the game and of someone is good with their sniper rifle, that's just the way it is.

[radiant river]

Yes but that takes forever and only works if they make a mistake.

I don't have a problem fighting them, it's just not fun

[radiant river]

The people we are talking about are not good with it, they are good at waiting

[queen jungle]

fun is subjective and different for all of us tbh

[hardy coral]

If they hit you, then they're good with it

[echo forum]

might as well remove the objective if more and more people start camping with bounty. Truly fun that the game depends on at least one team to yolo it and actually make things happen

[echo forum]

at 830m/s a 150m snipe isn't even hard anymore

[queen jungle]

This. If waiting leads to them winning against you or even winning the match, it's a perfectly good strategy.

[radiant river]

It's bad design. The only counter to it is to pray they make a big mistake, or run the same gun as them

[hazy quartz]

if you don't want to wait, improve the yolo playstyle, if you can yolo effectively you can always change the pace of a match if you don't like that others are taking it slow. thats the only way to "force" others to do something. complaining about slower playstyles changes nothing.

[queen jungle]

Not sure what you're referring to. The bounty team inside a boss lair playing passively has always been present in Hunt. It makes sense, they have the most to lose and are in the focus of everybody else in a match.

[echo forum]

I'm talking about the long ammo snipers that literally never set foot into a compound and rotate the second a shot even goes their way

[hardy coral]

You are literally just complaining that scopes exist.

[radiant river]

Most of these people don't take bounty unless server is empty and will extract if their partner dies

[hardy coral]

And that you can't play around them

[radiant river]

Yes

[hardy coral]

Then get over it, it's not changing.

[radiant river]

I do not have a problem fighting them, they make the game slow, force you to play their way, and put them at an inherent advantage

Ok then why is there a feedback chanel

[echo forum]

it's ridiculous that you literally need to constantly jump air strafe just so you don't randomly get domed by the guy that won't go near compound and when running out of compounds you have to jerk around like a snake... truly immersive

[hardy coral]

Something as core as scoped weapons isn't getting removed.

[queen jungle]

If the snipers carry the bounty they are easy to follow thanks to both the lightning in DS and on the map. And rotating after being discovered is a very basic move you should practice whatever gun you have, your location being known is always a disadvantage.

[radiant river]

They won't do that

They are playing for kd, not bounty.

[hardy coral]

Then ignore them and play bounty

I've barely seen anyone actively play for just K/D

[queen jungle]

You will always have those people in any objective-based game (the Battlefield community has been complaining about this since the dawn of time).
IMO the removal of the KD-based leaderboards was an important step towards discouraging these players.

[hardy coral]

Sometimes people run when their teammates are killed, or leave the match if they lose bars. But even then that's to preserve hunters and equipment, not necessarily K/D

[radiant river]

I'm sure all the 4kd players who miss all 6 uppercut shots at close range aren't playing for kd

[echo forum]

ignore them? They run stam shot and greyhound... you're not going to get away with bounty most of the time if they aren't absolute shit

[mighty eagle]

What I'm getting from this is a lot of y'all only run C&K and are tired of people backing up and sniping you.
Shotguns are annoying if you are close and in their element,
Snipers are annoying if they are too far away

[radiant river]

I don't think it really mattered, although it was a good change but noone looked at the leaderboard anyways. Would be cool if kd was private, or not visible at all

[echo forum]

look it's so bad that people don't even mention compact or medium ammo lmao

[radiant river]

I run lebel marksman spitzer most of the time because it's so effect

[hardy coral]

Both are viable, generally with custom ammo though.

Centennial poison is great now. Winnie HV, Bornheim match with anything.

[radiant river]

You can outplay a shotgun user at close range. You can't outplay a sniper playing safe at long range

[queen jungle]

The only way to see another player's KD after the removal of the leaderboards is by actively looking at the stats in the Team Details screen and you can choose to ignore that one.

[mighty eagle]

People can play the game however they want.
It's unbelievable how many times I hear other people say or people message me and say "YOURE PLAYING THE DAMN GAME WRONG"
I'm pretty sure I can play however I want and others can do the same.

[hardy coral]

You can still shoot people who are beyond 100 or so metres dude.

Just aim better

[radiant river]

Yeah but people know people check.

[radiant river]

Do you have any real arguments

[hardy coral]

These are real arguments

[echo forum]

it will truly be a great game when no one goes for objective anymore

[hardy coral]

A shot from a regular mosin still exists past 100 metres, same as a scoped one.

[radiant river]

You are not realistically going to hs someone sitting in a bush at 100m. You can easily headshot someone up close if they have a sg

I'm not saying I can't fight snipers, I'm saying they make the game worse with how they cause engagements

[mighty eagle]

That's their choice

[mighty eagle]

But if you want XP and money, gotta play the objective

[queen jungle]

All the more bounty for me I guess

[echo forum]

it kinda shows why bounty hunt is a shit game mode if the most effective way to win is by not actually pushing the objective

[hardy coral]

Getting control of boss compound and the bounty is a good way to win actually

[mighty eagle]

There are many times, especially single bounty, that i rush the boss, banish, and see everyone is camping around the compound and not pushing. So I just run and get out lol. Single bounty worth a lot of money.

[queen jungle]

Depends on what you see as winning. The goal of BH is to survive and extract the bounty. If someone just gets a few kills and leaves, I wouldn't call that "winning".

[radiant river]

Yeah, and is that how the game should be? Is it enjoyable?

[echo forum]

You have to leave eventually. The long ammo sniper trio can effectively cover the compound lol

[mighty eagle]

Me winning against stupid people who won't push? Yes.

[hardy coral]

Every side? If they're really being that campy (Literally never seen this happen in game) then you can just wait them out and see who gets bored first.

[radiant river]

What are you winning? Money you can use to buy stuff to not fight anyone

[echo forum]

So you're just playing a Left4deadbayouedition?

[echo forum]

there are a bunch of 6 star sniper trios that play like this lol

[radiant river]

Idk how

[hardy coral]

I guess I'm really lucky and don't see them.

[radiant river]

What region

[hardy coral]

EU

[mighty eagle]

So you guys want to what? Send police to someone's house when they camp in a bush?
Remove all scopes, shotguns only?
Remove all shotguns, long ammo only?

[radiant river]

I'm on USE