#feedback-discussion

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tranquil lichen
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It's not hard to deal with em. But when you get bombarded by 4 diff ai types in the middle of a team fight, makes it hard to really think you got "out played".

Sprinkling a stupid amount of AI to make things "harder" to play against opponents is lazy, and unintuitive.

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LMAOOOO

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Oh, so I should be ready to run into 8 AI's in the middle of a team fight?

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Ddddddduuuuummmbbb

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Win against me with 0 ai

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5-6 star elo

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It's just stupid design to "spice" things up. Reduce it by 30% or so. Ai is still there and a thing to pay attention to. But doesn't completely overwhelm/remove your focus from a gunfight.

dense sapphire
tranquil lichen
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Also, get rid of the stupid wide trade window. Awful game design as well.

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Literally almost every game one of my teammates trades.

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And this is by game design. LOL

late wind
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Honestly the trade window is fine. Between massive variances in projectile velocities, it's totally reasonable to shoot at different times but still both die.

tranquil lichen
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Trading should happen RARELY

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And almost only at long distance ranges.

vale cedar
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i agree

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trading windows busted

tranquil lichen
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In the past 8 games I've played, we've traded 6 times total.

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And this is at close to medium range.

vale cedar
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mostly happens at point blank range for me

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tbh

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0-10 meters

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quite dumb

late wind
# tranquil lichen No it is not.

Dude if you kill me with a bullet while my crossbow bolt is in the air... It's gonna take a second to get to you and kill you.

vale cedar
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yeah this isn't the issue

tranquil lichen
vale cedar
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yeah

late wind
tranquil lichen
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Go try it irl.

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Let me know how it goes.

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That speed diff is negligible at that range.

late wind
tranquil lichen
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Because there's so little data, it just rounds it to the nearest tick. And the tick rate must be so stupidly low to have it happen so often.

vale cedar
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i think its 20 tick or some shit

tranquil lichen
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No other FPS has this many trade scenarios.

vale cedar
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i remembering reading that

tranquil lichen
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60hz should be bare minimum in 2022.

vale cedar
tranquil lichen
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Especially with only 12 players in a server...

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LOLLLL

dense sapphire
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I think the current system could be improved, but hitting someone and seeing blood only for the shot to not register at all is far worse imo

tranquil lichen
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Oh gotcha. Huh, now THAT'S weird.

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Like which? And where's the proof? Lol.

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That's because it's hitscan... So you'd have to LITERALLY press your mouse button on the exact same TICK.

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Got proof for the BF claim? I don't play BF tho.

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If so, show me the proof. LOL

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Sounds a lot like you have no proof and are just saying stuff.

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That's not true. I would get a trade after dying from long range sniper shots.

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I said i DONT REALLY PLAY IT

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But I certainly used to

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Tried the bf2042 beta, and laughed.

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last ones i really enjoyed were bf3 and bf4

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and i 100% had bullet time trades. my bullets weren't despawned.

blissful pewter
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wow I didn't realize my praise of the devs at least doing something that the community asked would cause such an uproar

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jesus man Ping abuse is obviously a thing right I think everyone can agree that there is some sort of ping abuse BUUT that doesn't necessarily mean that the servers don't need to be fixed. Like yes severs seriously need to be fixed.

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I mean the main reason is really fucking high ping. Most competitive games do region lock so I don't really see an issue

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Hunt being a highly competitive game im not to upset about it. I was just praising the devs for listening to the community some

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I don't know where you have been but almost every week I see someone suggest a region lock and it gets anywhere from 20-40 upvotes with at most 15 downvotes

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Though I do see the bad sides of region lock

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I think that some suggestions like a tic for region lock would be a good idea

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so that if its something that bothers you go ahead check it if not no big deal

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I can see both sides of the coin because being blind to one side is stupid

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I do agree that region locking completely would be a bad idea

sharp arrow
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There hasn’t been a scenario for me where ping was an advantage when I play on Euro servers with my friends. 90% of the time I just get trades where I would normally not.

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It can feel unfair when you die during desync. Because their hits take longer to register so it feels like you get shot through cover.

However, that’s only because in their side they hit you earlier.

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So I try to not get salty about that.

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That’s like 2 seconds of a delay.

blissful pewter
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I mean you make a valid point. But on the Humt showdown website they litterealy talk about ping abuse. How in some instances you can be well in cover but still did because of you opponent having high ping. Crytek themselves have even addressed the issue. It's not like I haven't played on high ping either it fucking sucks but it doesn't mean that isn't any advantages. But if Crytek themselves address the issue when talking about how there servers work. There probably is one

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That isn't to say that the servers don't need to be fixed

unborn smelt
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@late wind Fanning is already equal if not far better than dualies. It doesn't need to be buffed.

While yes dualies spam better, because they have more ammo and more accuracy they need double the loadout space, cost double the money and sacrifice ADS entirely.
Which mean fanning - unlike dualies can spam and aim and transition between both very fast and fluent - while dualies only get spamability.

So that makes fanning overall far more versatile and quite frankly much better overall, where as dualies are the better choice if you just want to spam away.

unborn smelt
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specifically there is no advantage

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If you die "in cover" that stems from the server validating the due to ping delayed shot of the opponent.
So your client doesn't know you're dead because the other client is delayed and lets you walk into cover

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Then the other client with the delay comes along and says "hey server - i hit that guy while he peeked and he died!"

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The server then runs diffrent validation strategies and agrees with the delayed client that you should have died while peeking

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It then sends the info of you dying to all clients, including your's which in the meantime was allowed to walk back into cover

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The important thing that makes this no advantage is if they had low ping, you wouldn't have survived because you "were in cover" - you'd just have died earlier out of cover

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this is why the situation, while being fair from a gameplay point of view - feels bad to the low ping player, becuase he thinks he's made it to cover, while the server and delayed client both agree you didn't. And that not everything you see on your PC is set in stone and right until the server validates it or it happened 800ms ago, is a concept a lot of people don't understand - even less so in the heat of battle

sick anvil
unborn smelt
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hey lets keep it civil please

sick anvil
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Yes same as you did yesterday and the day before and the day before

blissful pewter
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Guys chill in the end it's a game

unborn smelt
blissful pewter
unborn smelt
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all gud - that's a theme i've spend quite a lot of reading up on

blissful pewter
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And it is frustrating just not much we can do about it rn

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I wish you all a good day. Arguments are fine but no fighting and jabbing at each other that shit cring

slender crane
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idk a lot of it sounds the same to me. maybe im just not good enough at the game LOL

sick anvil
lucid orbit
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I don't care as long as it improves quality of play - ping lock all day, everyday. My suspicion is they're setting the game to go free to play. I think region lock would be necessary in that scenario. If the black market is microtrans I think that would confirm it.

slender crane
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oh i didnt know that, but still i dont think a lot of the guns sound satisfying. Very little umph and power to the sounds

lucid orbit
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I don't know anymore. I think the community doesn't know what it needs or wants. A fair number of people wanted matchmaker and I don't think it actually made the game better it actually made it a lot more sweaty. I think we need noob protection but I preferred Hunt before the matchmaker was a thing.

sick anvil
slender crane
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LOL

lucid orbit
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I'm taking a wait and see. My hours/time in Hunt is dramatically down due to 1.8. That patch just burned me out entirely. I really think Hunt is a truly unique game with the setting and such so I hope Crytek can turn it around. I think the game is very stale at the moment. I do have like a stupid amount of time in the game so it may just be normal burnout.

slender crane
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i dont think my suggestions are bad i think the community just lacks creativity

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u can balance burst fire

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2 shot burst long wait time between shots

lucid orbit
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I play on US West so ping long only benefits me. I'd say 1 in 4 folks there are from Asia Pac ?

slender crane
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decent recoil

lucid orbit
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*lock

slender crane
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there were no bomb lance

lucid orbit
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Granted, selfish. We'll see how it turns out.

unborn smelt
slender crane
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LOL

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no way

sick anvil
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Qeue the Greener rifle

unborn smelt
blissful pewter
blissful pewter
slender crane
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thats limiting for no reason

blissful pewter
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It really be like how tf do I make this explosion go over there without a canon

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The most you could get away with is a semi auto rifle there where some early variations at the time

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Yea my point exactly

unborn smelt
blissful pewter
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Earliest I could find of semi auto was 1885 I think but really weird

slender crane
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i dont want a burst fire for the sake of having an op weapon i want something new and different that still fits in there. Having a limiting design for a world so unique is so disappointing

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why lol

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aesthetic?

blissful pewter
slender crane
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not much realism in hunt

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no offense

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but i dont see the point of putting this limitation on it

blissful pewter
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Ah ok

unborn smelt
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Tbh i don't think we need to limit ourselves in that way

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there's a few things that could be done

slender crane
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theres a chance

unborn smelt
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obviously no real world selectfire firearm would fit very well

slender crane
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hellll yeahhhhh baby

unborn smelt
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but we have the "weir west" thzeme allowing some creative liberty

unborn smelt
slender crane
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ure telling me ull stop playing hunt if they put in a burst fire medium ammo to make a medium ammo gun actually kinda okay?

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LOL

unborn smelt
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but i'm also not a fan of claiming all that stuff has to be real guns or true to the timeframe

blissful pewter
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I mean some of hunt goes all the way up to 1917. Take the real life counter part to the avto

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Like hunt doesn't follow real life time line

slender crane
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it really doesnt

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poison bullets??

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i can see poisoned people thru walls

blissful pewter
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Real life is more of a guideline than definitively the cut off

slender crane
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but weird gun is no no

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man

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LOL

unborn smelt
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Meh.

I'd rather have more interesting non realistic guns than more and more nearly carbon copies of each other

slender crane
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finally

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u can balance it

unborn smelt
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depends on how you'd go about it - yes

slender crane
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its no not doable

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high recoil low ammo long load between shots

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how hard is it

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low damage

unborn smelt
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Meh - sry but i disagree

slender crane
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man how

blissful pewter
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You could make it fit the game just do something funky

slender crane
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compact or medium ammo

crystal plume
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With the current damage model for each ammo type you'd either have to make it shoot special ammo with very low 2 tap range or derringer bullets to not make it another avtomat

blissful pewter
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Derringer kek

jovial lodge
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Wrong according to your personal vision for the game 🤷

slender crane
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40 meter can 2 tap but high recoil

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high recoil

unborn smelt
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tbh i loved that thing in remnant from the ashes

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was essentially a 2 shot burst handcrossbow

slender crane
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dolch is nothing

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burst you cant steady in between shots

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the recoil is there when shoot

crystal plume
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I'm all for new wacky guns or such, but not huge on a burst gun at all

jovial lodge
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Which is an opinion 😅

slender crane
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2 shot burst

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did i not mention that

half stag
jovial lodge
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I hope you're joking lol

slender crane
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high recoil

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bruh

unborn smelt
half stag
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y'know avto was 2 tap one time?

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and had high recoil

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not 2 tap

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fuck me

slender crane
half stag
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2 shot burst

unborn smelt
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technically it was 2 rounds min

slender crane
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compact bullets

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bad damage

unborn smelt
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but fully auto capable

slender crane
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3 shot past 50 meters

unborn smelt
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that makes a significant diffrence for balance

slender crane
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bad damage due to variant

unborn smelt
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it also was a long ammo rifle which doesn't help balance either

slender crane
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i want this to make either medium or compact rifles more fun

half stag
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they're already good

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wdym

slender crane
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more fun

blissful pewter
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He didn't say good

slender crane
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not roasting them

blissful pewter
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He said fun

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But something mew

slender crane
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yeah winnie is banger

half stag
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sounds like he just wants to play COD then

blissful pewter
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Something spicy

unborn smelt
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Meh - they are pretty boring

slender crane
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but whats stopping you from taking berthier lebel or mosin

unborn smelt
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it's just shoot faster dmg lower

slender crane
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long ammo op

unborn smelt
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there isn't much cool diffrent going on

slender crane
half stag
slender crane
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someone kinda gets it

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i dont want cod or an arcady game i want uniqueness in this unique setting

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why are we so frickin boring

unborn smelt
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nah i don't - but mechanically diffrent stuff =/= stuff from CoD in the slightest

half stag
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so the guns aren't unique now? huh

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I sure as hell don't see winchester 73s in any other fps so far

slender crane
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i dont want automaticc

blissful pewter
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Yes my shotgun is lebel:(

slender crane
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loooool

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hahaha

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long load timeeeeeeee

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high recoilllllll

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man im getting roasted

unborn smelt
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from a gameplay perspective

slender crane
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hunt is great

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i love hunt

unborn smelt
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they are your achetypical faster rof low dmg gun

slender crane
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no troll

unborn smelt
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Not saying that's a bad thing

half stag
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but aesthetically and feel wise, I think it's unique

slender crane
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but if they add things that dont limit them to real life guns and almost real guns only id love it wayy more

unborn smelt
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but saying we could get some cooler stuff gameplay wise.
to clarif tho - i don't mean a regular ass burstfire gun

half stag
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^

slender crane
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did you know mods in cod modern warfare is all based off real life armory

unborn smelt
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as is just about every gun in Hunt

slender crane
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so why am i getting roasted like i want a gun to come from cod

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i dont

half stag
slender crane
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i dont want a famas in hint showdown

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because we dont have one

unborn smelt
half stag
slender crane
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and its tough to balance medium ammo

blissful pewter
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I want something really fucking weird that makes me have to think hard when fighting not just push or not to push kinda situation

slender crane
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dont say automat

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please

unborn smelt
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Hun't s community usually goes wild if that happens

slender crane
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LPL

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please man dont say avtomat

half stag
unborn smelt
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nah.

half stag
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why does it not count in your mind

heady sinew
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they shouldn't add anything else like the avto in the game, but they should also keep the avto in the game

slender crane
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because what im thinking isnt even close to avtomat

unborn smelt
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we know for a fact the community gets needlessly outraged everythime smth with slightly higher RoF is introduced

slender crane
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not even close to the bornheim

lone horizon
heady sinew
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the fact that the avto is the only gun like it in hunt makes it more fun

unborn smelt
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has happened in the past waaaay too often

heady sinew
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because you don't have options for op guns

unborn smelt
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no they don't

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TBH 3 years of long ammo Meta nearly did for me

slender crane
heady sinew
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you just have one clunky automatic gun thats all we need

unborn smelt
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was just boring as fuck

slender crane
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now i freaking do

blissful pewter
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But even then there was a lot of backlash

half stag
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to be fair

unborn smelt
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No i don't

half stag
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they chose 1895 specifically due to it being the end of the wild west and the beginning of the modern era/WW1 tech being rolled out

slender crane
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he just thinks its boring

unborn smelt
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i say they're typically overreacting

heady sinew
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they are most definitely fun

half stag
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so they can pick and choose from both time periods

heady sinew
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can speak from experience

unborn smelt
blissful pewter
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Literally an opinion

heady sinew
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that sucks man then don't speak for everyone else

blissful pewter
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Right here

lone horizon
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I agree honestly, I do way better with spam guns but I choose slower stuff like Springfield and Berthier because I find them way more satisfying and fun.

slender crane
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facts

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but how many times has a springfield let you down because it cant one shot like martini henry

heady sinew
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the way you worded it

slender crane
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why not a 2 shot springfield to even it out

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FUCK IT

heady sinew
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you should have said this from the start if thats what you meant

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not my fault

lone horizon
heady sinew
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yes

crystal plume
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Martini cannot one shot either

lone horizon
slender crane
crystal plume
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More yes

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Enough to 1 shot from full health? No

half stag
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gee whizz, its as if the medium ammo dropoff curve is literally just compact+ (Crytek please bring it up to 30m at least)

crystal plume
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Talking about upper body shots ofc since headshots are obviously a different story

slender crane
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then whats springfield suppose to do to be considerable to be brought into a game

lone horizon
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Cheap

half stag
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^

lone horizon
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38 dollars

half stag
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its sole existence in life lol

lone horizon
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Also some people might like it more.

slender crane
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lol people like it because the game is full of long ammo lovers

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more challenging

half stag
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oh and fun fact, the springfield actually reloads slower than the martini (the stats page lies to you), so thats great

slender crane
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great yippyyyy

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medium ammo

lone horizon
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Yea, I will take the Martini over the Springfield any day.

slender crane
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isnt martini 100

lone horizon
unborn smelt
slender crane
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100 hunt dollars****

unborn smelt
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ahh

slender crane
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lol

unborn smelt
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122$

lone horizon
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Bro what? Did he actually say that?

slender crane
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isnt that cheap

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he loves roasting ppl

unborn smelt
slender crane
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ok how many of you actually have economic problems when u play hunt

lone horizon
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We already have the Avto

lone horizon
unborn smelt
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But there's a massive diffrence between burstfire and a 30 round burstfire assaultrifle

slender crane
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ok springfield burst fire same reload time as now cant 2 tap past 50-60 meters cant 2 tap if hit on arms or leg at 35-40m and really decent recoil

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2 shots then you reload

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then 2 shots

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what no

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never one taps man

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read

unborn smelt
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i mean you're entitled to your opinion - but i could see it work if carefully implemented

slender crane
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okay sorry

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never one tap

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ever

half stag
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2 round burst fire with only 2 rounds in the mag. hmmmmmm

lone horizon
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How the on earth would a springfield be burstfire?

slender crane
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why not

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its shit

half stag
blissful pewter
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You know something like a wind up kind of thing where you reload wind up the gun and then shoot the two bullets might be interesting

slender crane
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make it a variant so its just usuable

half stag
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he is not basing it on any real world design

heady sinew
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the difference is that the second thing you said was actually saying that it was opinion

slender crane
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im not yeah no

half stag
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cuz apparently its "boring" that everyone wants real world designs

lone horizon
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Two Springfields tapped together?

slender crane
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2 barrels

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2 hammers hit different timing

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one conjointed hammer

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make it look cool

lone horizon
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I'm thinking you installed this game yesterday the more you talk about the Springfield lol

heady sinew
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thats something you have to put into words

slender crane
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LOL

heady sinew
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its not my job

slender crane
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80 hours

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not much

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but i just think the game has potential

lone horizon
slender crane
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like what would you want added to the game

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if nothing unique

half stag
slender crane
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another levering gun medium ammo like verterlli?

blissful pewter
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I mean it's not necessarily "boring" it just a gun feels like a gun sometimes something weird can be refreshing. Bomb Lance for example

slender crane
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true

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that

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id love that

half stag
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custom servers, hunter customization, optional hardcore mode, more stuff to spend hunt bucks on

slender crane
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might as well add skateboards all these times im sliding

blissful pewter
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They are functional per say

slender crane
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barely

lone horizon
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It is bolt action

unborn smelt
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as far as weapons go - i'd like for them to explore the more whacky stuff

slender crane
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it u want to call a one wheel bike functional

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oh sorry

half stag
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shooting range, maybe an interactive saloon that you can customize, ui rework

slender crane
blissful pewter
unborn smelt
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they are in a time period where ther's a lot of historical whacky designs

sick anvil
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Rake

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Caveman club

slender crane
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alright

blissful pewter
unborn smelt
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as well as having the option to go slightly "weird west" outside of historical stuff

slender crane
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u guys still hate that stupid whip idea i came up with or what

unborn smelt
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well i think one could make a cool burstfire variation

blissful pewter
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Thank you for the correction yes wad intended more as a joke but yea

half stag
slender crane
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balancable

unborn smelt
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this thing could be made into a 2 reound burst pistol for example

slender crane
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LOL

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that gun is sick LMAO

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the lemat isnt even that realistic guys

unborn smelt
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nah - i too think we should go and make more gameplay wise mechnical interesting stuff

half stag
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why's he burned?

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what

slender crane
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irl youd have to disassemble every shot

blissful pewter
lone horizon
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I want Martini Henry mortar, that can not fire HE (that would be annoying and op) but fires poison, fire, concertina, smoke/chokebomb, and Decoy.

unborn smelt
slender crane
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thats sick

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i know it did but irl you cant reload like how hunt does it

lone horizon
blissful pewter
slender crane
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you have to take the weapon apart irl to reload

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yeah

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cool gun tho

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the lemat you do

blissful pewter
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No the shotgun shell

half stag
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the shotgun shell is the only part that can't be converted to fire cartridges

blissful pewter
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For the shotgun you did have to disassemble it not even a shell lol

unborn smelt
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not take it apart tho

slender crane
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oh

half stag
slender crane
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hehehe

blissful pewter
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Oh really? I my bad

slender crane
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takyon what do u think of my whip weapon suggestion i made

half stag
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there is a cartridge converted lemat that looks exactly like the one in game, but the shotgun part can never be converted to shells due to the fact that it acts as the cylinder arbor

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so it still needs to be loaded from the front

blissful pewter
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The Lemat in game I don't think would ever be technologically possible

unborn smelt
slender crane
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not realistic

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take it out

half stag
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could've but a. too much work and b. balancing would've been difficult

unborn smelt
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the real cartrige le mat looked ugly af

half stag
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its real

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fully firing

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historically though, yea they did, but it was ugly af

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like you said

blissful pewter
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Lemat cartridge conversion but was the carbine version

unborn smelt
half stag
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but not commerically feasible nor possible back then

unborn smelt
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but what ammo does it fire

half stag
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hell the guy charges 2,000 plus per conversion job

slender crane
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too realistic

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thats not hunt

half stag
unborn smelt
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yeah what i thought smthy comparatively smol

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still very cool tho

blissful pewter
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Lemat carbine anyone?

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Just saying

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True

little carbon
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Hopefully not

half stag
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ala red dead, still would be slow if they matched it to real life standards (fistful of frags is a good candidate for showing how slow a reload still would be)

little carbon
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A shotgun / rifle hybrid would need to be seriously bad in both being a shotgun and a rifle, else its gonna be a balance nightmare

half stag
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I know all to well, black powder does not like moisture lol

unborn smelt
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but for example a single springie round on a specter (regular specter if 1 barrel bayonet specter if 2 barrel) level single or double shotgun barrel could be cool

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unborn smelt
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or a 2 shot cent rifle with a single short ranged shotgun barrel

little carbon
unborn smelt
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but what has to be taken into consideration with a 3 slot combination guns, is that we already have a pistol with a handcannon shotgun barrel strapped to it and it creates no balance issue

unborn smelt
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and we see in the LeMat that it's not nearly as strong as it sounds on paper

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why would i take a 3 slot combination gun - if i get the same shotgun spread on the LeMat as a combination gun

little carbon
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But with the lemat its a weak shotgun and a weak pistol.

unborn smelt
little carbon
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Specter compact has better kill range than the LeMat, right?

unborn smelt
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ever so slightly - yes

little carbon
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Wow

unborn smelt
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but there's a reason nobody uses that garbage stump

lone horizon
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No

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Lemat fucks

queen jungle
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i take lemat for extra shotgon ammunation

hot vigil
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I can see a theoretical use to use Lemat with slugs.

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But that is a lot of money for what might be a single use gimmick

keen bolt
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If it's that range usually lemat guy are already in Heavy disadvantage

hot vigil
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That and also, single action revolvers just suck in the current meta.
You get outgunned by Dualies, Slate, Double-Action and Semi-automatic pistols.

keen bolt
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Yeah pretty much

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And Fanning cost 7 points

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I'd go with Quartermaster any day

keen bolt
hot vigil
keen bolt
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There's also that

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I'm saying fanning isn't worth the investment

hot vigil
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But yeah, if dualies were a perk too, then we might see a increase in single action revolvers again.

keen bolt
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Easy solution to dualies are rate of fire

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Hard solution is to rework it

hot vigil
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Best solution is to remove it

keen bolt
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Thing is even dualies pairs aren't even eaual

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Equal

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Certain one are VASTLY used

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And others are rarely seen

hot vigil
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Eyup, basically Conversion Pair.

keen bolt
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That damned thing yes

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I'm going as far as to say the only problematic pair

hot vigil
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I somewhat agree on that. I just don't get why they ain't a perk requirement.

keen bolt
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Tbh I'm more concerned about other pairs

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It's a cool feature

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But badly implemented one

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Take Pax pair for example - it is good but not many people plays it

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Lower rof than conv. pair

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Higher recoil - stupid high imo

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And simply not good cost investment

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200$ really just buy a primary!

hot vigil
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I would love if the Nagant was the best Dualies option

keen bolt
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Then there's a bullshit that cost 52$

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That is also the most accurate pair

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Good rof

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Low recoil

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Good special ammo option

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And good damage

hot vigil
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Maybe the conversion itself needs a balance?

keen bolt
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I'd say nerf the dual wield conversion

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Blanket nerf sucks

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Other pairs are made unusable because one pair is a problem

hot vigil
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Well, I've been wanting the Negant to have a spot of relevancy for a long time.

keen bolt
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Also nagant pairs are atrocious

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Yes but doesn't fire as fast

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And also recoils more

hot vigil
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Like for 2 hunt buxx more you get basically a straight upgrade to the Nagant with the Conversion.

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keen bolt
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On their own Conversion are amazing

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It used to be the worst pistol btw

hot vigil
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Also lmao, Nagant: "Sacrifices stopping power for extra bullet in the drum and a higher rate of fire"

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It share firing speed with the fucking Uppercut

keen bolt
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This

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Back in Beta lollll

hot vigil
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Eyup. But yeah, give precision of the Conversion to the Nagant.

keen bolt
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They need to buff Nagant rof to 70 lol

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Or ... something

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Just do something!😂

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I just don't know why it's so laughably bad

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Like legit not much good point at all

hot vigil
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I want it to be the precise gun pebble gun.

keen bolt
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Or make it the most accurate fanning

hot vigil
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That too

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steady prism
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costt increase to 60ish hunt bucks per gun, simultaneously decrease the price of PAX to 70ish and itll be much better balanced

steady prism
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since its ammunition was long and narrow, it should have the biggest muzzle velocity out of compact sidearms and it should thumb a bit faster than caldwell

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basically caldwell conversion = best for hipfiring, nagant = best for ADS

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increasing the Nagants velocity.... so HV ammo

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Anybody having trouble getting matches on US east/west? We're only getting (as a trio) games with one other trio consistently over the last two hours

steady prism
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we ve got nagant and its direct competitor (e.g. upgrade) caldwell conversion
we ve got nagant precision and its direct competitor (e.g. upgrade) scottfield precision

willow pine
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This is also with skill based, as well as with skill based off

steady prism
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standart nagant has 330 m/s
caldwell conversion has 300 m/s
bornheim has 380 m/s (nagant is 2 ys younger than bergmann and they both use smokeless cartridges)

nagant precision has 330 m/s (the same as standart nagant even though it has longer barrel)
scottfield precision has 280 m/s (so it is in fact quite decent setback compared to nagant, also the same mv as standart scottfield)
vandal has 370 m/s (if you are masochist and like self harming)

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so both nagants are definitely not the best in their group even though they easily could be

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since they are slower to fire than both bornheim and vandal

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and their IRL counterpart is a weapon that fires solid rounds

native lodge
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Nagant P doesn't have a longer barrel at all
yes scotty p trades MV for Damage, barrel length is unchanged
vandal is kind trash but thats a different topic
Nagant isn't really competing with anything as its purpose no is as a sidearm that carries HV ammo (supressed Nagant is arguable the best for this but a none suppressed Nagant still does this very well.
the irl counter part fired a fairly underpowered round, and the MV in game on the base version is pretty close to accurate

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really the only reason I don't run base Nagant with HV all the time is that the suppressed variant has just a little more going for it

steady prism
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vandal is trash bcs all 2-slot weapons without stock are utter garbage bcs of the intolerable sway

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and weapon shouldnt be counting solely on its custom ammo to be viable...

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standart nagant is 330 m/s ... with HV its 420 m/s

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if they upped the base MV to 370 m/s, and HV to 430 m/s, it would be much better when stock

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they also should add those 6 rpm to make it actually faster when thumbing than other SA revolvers (like the description wrongly states rn)

native lodge
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weapons that aren't even bad shouldn't just be buffed because. also yeah weapons variants and ammo types can make weapons that are meh into decent weapons, Nagant Supressed HV is genuinely a great weapon paired with Winnie HV

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I see no real reason to change it

steady prism
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well those 10 m/s are not buff...

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its just so that theres a gap between standart and HV

native lodge
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and?

steady prism
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?

native lodge
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I trying to figure out why you think it needs to be changed at all?

pure quest
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Custom ammo shouldnt even be a thing

native lodge
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yeah it should it should just be worked on more

pure quest
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While I dont really mind poison or Fire bullet, the others just all just be removed

native lodge
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was genuinely a good addition to the game

pure quest
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No

native lodge
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yes and its here to stay

steady prism
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I agree custom ammo is interesting

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But its badly designed

pure quest
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It simply wasnt. Not this way anyway

native lodge
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well like anything new, you have to balance it over time

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but over all a good choice to add it

pure quest
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Implementation was fucked and really ruined some parts of the game. Now it's odd with some things just being so shit it's really stupid to bring it along

native lodge
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what did it ruin?

pure quest
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"Its meme bro so keep it, memes are fun"

native lodge
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its not meme

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not all of it anyway

pure quest
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Poison bullets and fire bullets are definitely considered meme

dense shuttle
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poison bullets are OP

native lodge
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which yeah fine

pure quest
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Slugs are just downright stupid,

dense shuttle
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they leave one of the teammates with disabilities

native lodge
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slugs are fine

steady prism
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look custom ammo adds immersion and they fit the theme perfectly...

pure quest
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Explosive ammo absolutely ruined the game

steady prism
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so im glad they made them

native lodge
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explosive ammo was only an issue on console

pure quest
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Special ammo in 1880? Immersion what?🤨

steady prism
pure quest
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Yeah cuz it get nerfed into the ground

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Before it's all you saw

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Explosive crossbow still is an issue

steady prism
pure quest
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(Nitro as well but rare)

native lodge
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also yes they had different ammo types then so

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its really not that far off base

pure quest
steady prism
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well yes it does

pure quest
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Apart from the immersion though, it's just very poorly done.

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Poison and fire, maybe penny are fine

native lodge
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vast majority of it is done well

steady prism
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they feel like just the kind of stuff that would appear in that time with these monsters

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i bet that most of that shit existed by then

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but it was pointless to make it / use it

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this is a new variable

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i like custom ammo...

native lodge
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like shredder rounds are the only custom ammo that is absurd rn

steady prism
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i dont like two things

native lodge
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slugs, HV, and FMJ, miss the mark as sidegrades but aren't out right terrible

steady prism
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  1. its not a sidegrade to standart ammo
  2. you pick it before the game and them you stick with them throughout the playthrough
pure quest
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I like to use custom ammo, but I dont agree with it. Mechanic/gameplay wise, dragonbrrath is bs for example

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While its hilarious to burn people over and over

native lodge
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dragons breath is great

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wouldn't change it a bit

pure quest
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It doesnt fit, imo, for the while setting of this gameplay, how it's supposed to be. Explosive crossbow even more

native lodge
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eh I think both of those are fine

steady prism
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ive never seen explosive xbow to deal more than 50 dmg

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its literally impossible to kill someone with it

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you re better off with standart bolt in the chest

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I admit that consoles may be different

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steady prism
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letsgo

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nothing can stop us 😄

blissful pewter
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this brings me pain

steady prism
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intstantly teamed with first dudes that we clashed together

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and then we fought off entire lobby of players who all swarmed towards us..

blissful pewter
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bruh

steady prism
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then we ofc got killd by the team that we teamed with 😄

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hunt is fun

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lets try another one

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elfin citrus
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God this game would be so boring if they didn't add custom ammo, bomb lance, avtomat, lemat, ect. I cant believe this is a real discourse in this community lol

dense sapphire
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Explosive xbow is low key really really good but it requires a specific playstyle

steady prism
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so its just crossbow with added noise and constant fear that someone took bulwark

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when i take xplosive i take them as secondary ammo and open doors/shutters with that which is 👌

dense sapphire
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In my experience, explosive Xbow is best utilized with a support/aggressive hybrid playstyle along with an uppercut. You act as both team support blowing up doors and concertina and pressuring enemies behind cover. I rarely go for 1 taps with it and rather go for the chip around a corner and then push with the uppercut for a pretty reliable 1-2 KO

steady prism
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ye something like that

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im not saying that xplosive is useless... im just stating that at least on PC its not insanely OP instawin kind of weapon

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elfin citrus
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Nah, I think boring is apt. It wouldn't be boring for someone like you and I, but a lot of semi-regular players who make up a large chunk of the game's population rely on new content to stay invested. Custom ammo created an amount of dimensionality that can keep casual players engaged for a long time.

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A mangrove crab boss would be freaking awesome

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oblique knoll
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I wonder if they will ever add some sort of smoke bomb

jovial lodge
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I kinda like the other options you have: choke bombs, fire bombs, and explosive debris clouds

sick anvil
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explosive debris ?

jovial lodge
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Yea when you throw a dynamite stick or what have you, it kicks up a cloud of dust & shit

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Basically a smoke cloud

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Can enable revives or otherwise give you the shield you need to push up between hard cover

unborn smelt
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Unlike smoke effects we have now, a smoke bomb would need to be rendered serverside not clientside, to work reliably.

Om top theres issues with making the cloud entity behave how they want - like not clipping through walls and stuff like that

unborn dagger
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I mean regardless we kinda have a smoke bomb but it comes from the dynamite

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late wind
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I'd really like it if the amount of dust/debris kicked up by dynamite was determined by the surface it landed on.

half stag
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@late wind Brass casing sounds are already based on what surface you are standing on (albeit, some of them are a bit much like when you are on mud and you can still hear a clink)

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crude aspen
vague patio
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wtf

crude aspen
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Memes aside... the idea is to have an alternative, disposable and easily resupplied, to the flash bomb

dense sapphire
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I totally missed the fact that it was a tool

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That requires a complete re-evaluation

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One I will do later after I go to sleep

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steady prism
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@rare bough isnt that just generic BR?

little carbon
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@rare bough That Gamemode is done to death in so many other games, Hunt isn't striving to be a battle royale, so a mode like this just doesn't fit the game

steady prism
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Im personally hope with their rendition of quick play...

rare bough
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It is a BR but why not? Give people choice in a really nice setting I mean I love Hunt and mostly the time I'm playing Quick Play cuz it is more intense and more fun for me and I think lots of people think this way so why not? I think it will thrive, and more people will play the game, and Hunt is already a BR in so many ways, so why not? I'm just proposing and I think it will find some people who agreed with me

steady prism
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Only thing thats really bad is its name... Which may confuse newbies

steady prism
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Or they are understaffed or i dunno something... Hunt is one if the slowest expanding games i know

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So anything big like this means that both devs will work on that for half a year and then 7 ppl will play it

rare bough
rare bough
steady prism
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So even tho i dont have anything against your idea (tho i wouldnt touched that even if my life would depend on it...) I think theres more interesting stuff that could be done

steady prism
rare bough
steady prism
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Thats done by different ppl than those who add comtent and its main purpose is to generate income not bring any more value to the game

little carbon
# rare bough It is a BR but why not? Give people choice in a really nice setting I mean I lov...

Simply because it's a break with it's design philosophy and might be a step in the wrong direction and lead to the implementation of more casual BR stuff.
If you believe you need a mode like that to have fun, then Hunt is probably not the game for you.
Bounty Hunt is one of the most replayable game modes i have ever seen, just because every single fight is unique. And I am saying that after over 1000 hours spent in the game. Its also a highly unique game mode that heavily favours tactical play, and interacts with so many more skills then just aim, which hunt's audio design also caters to.
A BR would just water that down

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bronze quail
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Qp is just a mode that they introduced to make happy people without friends

steady prism
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Basically 😂

bronze quail
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Is just a side mode that almost nobody likes to play

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Who wants to play Qp only to get killed by a 1 star crouching in a random bush with a shotgun

rare bough
steady prism
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Think about regions like oceania

bronze quail
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Even devs said that QP is not that popular afaik

rare bough
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Wow first time hearing this. I'm playing QP for like a month and I HAVE NEVER waited longer than like 5 second to enter the game .. NEVER. so it is weird for me to hear that it is not popular

bronze quail
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And as others said, we don't need another trash battleroyale mode on a game that had success cause its one of the few games that is not a battleroyale like every fucking game released after Fortnite

little carbon
# steady prism Theres a lot of issues with the actual game rn... Its badly optimized lots of we...

I am wondering whether we are talking about different games.
How are weapons broken? From a technical standpoint i haven't encountered any bugs with weapons glitching out a lot and if I encountered something it was minor. From a balance perspective I would have to disagree hard. Hunt's balance is in a very good spot currently, on PC at least, but that's what the game is balanced for.
Variants are not s necessity, is actually say too many variants hurt the game, since it waters down decision making when making a loadout. What gaps in gunplay are you talking about, please elaborate?.

And I actually can't name another shooter whith the same replayability as hunt. Bounty hunt matches don't really become stale, because they always resolve differently

bronze quail
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Hunt is not a battleroyale, is built around the concept of a battleroyale, but it's way different

steady prism
steady prism
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Only shotguns that are being played are rival with slugs and sometimes trenchgun with slugs

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And then theres just few playing something else than shotgun or long ammo... Most usually its cheap builds with winchester or romero.. or sometimes we get dualies with precision schoffield

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Very rarely i see vetterli and crossbow

little carbon
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Why broken? It's not realistic, but that doesn't matter. As long as it works consistently, it's fine

steady prism
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Every other weapon (singleshots except sparks, specter, terminus, centennial...) Is practically nonexistent

rare bough
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To be honest after almost 200 hours I have no problem with Hunt on PC maybe sometimes servers are lagging and that is it!

little carbon
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rare bough
steady prism
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Couple this with static map and it gets boring really fast

little carbon
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Then play diverse builds. No one forces you to play long ammo.

steady prism
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Im one of the three people on EU who buy bornheim

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What im trying to say... That theres still lot of things that could be done...

little carbon
# steady prism Couple this with static map and it gets boring really fast

The map is static, but the gameplay is not. Matches play out very differently especially if both teams are tactically adept. And the maps being static is a big layer of play and skill, because it enables so many plays through map knowledge and game knowledge in conjunction with good observation.

steady prism
little carbon
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Could I ask what region you are playing on?

steady prism
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So yes... Each fight is different but not that different

steady prism
little carbon
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Sorry, i didn't remember. But it's the same for me, so definitely not an issue of region

steady prism
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Well i gotta go buy me sum groceries...

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Even tho i would like continue...

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So mby next time 😉

little carbon
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Yeah. Good discussion. Have a good day!

steady prism
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💪

pure quest
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Well long ammo is definitely what you encounter most

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I'm fine with the balance how is is currently, except for the explosive crossbow

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Some traits could use a little rework but that's all

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But I dont think the special ammo introduction was needed, but they've been balanced pretty ok over time

dense shuttle
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Why get a rifle, when you can get slugs and spam it like crazy

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(the guy was up there on the scope, a little bit to the right)

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plainly annoying gameplay mechanic

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shotguns with medium range don't work in other games because they're annoying

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it won't work here as well

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slugs are a stupid idea

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next custom ammo, make snipers have pellets

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little carbon
# dense shuttle Balance slugs

I'm pretty sure that was a headshot. And it still dealt low damage.
Slugs are fine. They extend shotgun range by a bit for the tradeoff of less efficient ammo and actually having to aim.
If they should be nerfed at all then at most a minimal nerf, like reducing the spare ammo by a bit when using slugs.
People way to often try to play against slugs like against buckshot and then wonder why they die, or blame it on the ammo. There is a reason you can tell slugs apart from buckshot by sound.

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dense shuttle
# little carbon I'm pretty sure that was a headshot. And it still dealt low damage. Slugs are f...

there were more shots like that (like 5-6) all dealing 50% damage. I don't believe there is a single chance that all of those were headshots.

They extends shotgun range by a bit
That's not "by a bit"

People way to often try to play against slugs like against buckshot and then wonder why they die
The problem is that you can't even get distance because he can just chase you and spam the slugs until you die

It's unfun, most people are salty about it and it's literally very easy to acquire

Having a shotgun that performs like a rifle never ever worked in any game. In some games shotguns perform 30% less than what slugs do in this game, and they're still asking for nerfs because they're simply not fun in range.
There is a reason it hasn't worked and will never ever work.

Unless you ofcourse make the sniper have pellet custom ammo, which negates every weapon type existing in the game

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Slugs are not an avoidable bullet type.

If it's a buckshot and you are near -> you are dead, you should've payed more attention or retreated later. You know the risk of shotgun when you get near.
If it's a slug and you are medium range -> you are probably dead lol. You should... ? Idk not be near the slug

In any other custom bullet type you know the risks for any range, and always have a counter. With "slugs" you're pretty much a dead body before you even know it

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You just pay what? a little bit more, to have a deadly shotgun rifle gun

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By playing safe you can literally manage to play slugs every single game (and I'm sure someone is doing it)

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@late wind it already is that way, you can tell it's a different sound in water and mud

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worn ice
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Will you guys please nerf the explosive crossbow. 100+ damage just from splash damage is just stupid. I remember when this game was good and it was about aim.

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ConcernedFrogeHat slugs generally are worse at two tapping people than most guns, the exception being the rival, which has limited ammo

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so wasting ammo on a two tap isn't advisable

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counter slugs is pretty easy past 15m with decent cover and using a weapon that has decent pen

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sick anvil
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Shure SHRH 240A

native lodge
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there slow MV makes them pretty poor for hitting targets with decent movement and use of cover

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there is the video up

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im losing half life

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he was chasing me with the slate from the white house from the other side of prison not the one that is on the clip, i didnt know i should be in lower dessale to deal that guy

native lodge
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yep

austere maple
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keep going in your logic highway, nice

native lodge
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you got killed by slugs because of bad positioning and movement, what do you want me to say?

austere maple
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FROM 60 METERS ...i want you to say you are a clown with a nice red nose and rich colourful hair

austere maple
native lodge
little carbon
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A double tap never comes from nowhere. You always know after the first hit from where they shot you

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Embers is right here

austere maple
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rate fire with slugs>skill

native lodge
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winnies fire faster than most slugs

austere maple
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after the first hit you have to heal

native lodge
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and the ones it doesn't either have two shots, or need to recenter a lot

austere maple
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HOW STUPID ARE YPU

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SLATE

native lodge
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winnie literally fires faster than the slate

austere maple
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S-L-A-T-E

little carbon
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Dying at 60 to slugs is the fault of the target pretty much every time

native lodge
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(with iron repeater)

little carbon
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And I am pretty sure slugs don't two tap to body at 60

austere maple
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OK now say the earth is flat and keep going

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clowns

native lodge
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skill issue

austere maple
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i didnt had the skill to pick slate slug in lobby

native lodge
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and you got killed

little carbon
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Any rifle outperforms slugs at that distance easily

austere maple
little carbon
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And calling someone a clown instead of making arguments isn't helping your case

austere maple
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if you want a loop read the above over and over

little carbon
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So how about you either provide concrete evidence to your claim, or accept that you might be in the wrong here

native lodge
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theres no evidence he just got out played

little carbon
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^i believe so too. Generally slugs are good, yes, but not overpowered

austere maple
native lodge
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slate shoots slower than a winnie so his claim that it out preforms all rifles at that range is fales

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it also has very poor damage and pen compared to long ammo so underpreforms there too

austere maple
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winnie has compact ammo its 3 taps

little carbon
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Again, pretty sure it doesn't deal 75 to chest at 60.

austere maple
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no its not 60

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you lose half life not nagotiable

native lodge
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56 at 60m

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so it doesn't two tap

austere maple
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on the clip its not 56

little carbon
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Also can't headshot kill at that distance, and kills against full life Hunters are rarely double taps from 1 person in a direct engagement, at least at higher ELO, since people go back to cover

native lodge
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was talking about the winnie

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just making sure everything was accurate

austere maple
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nice.. so you negate your own arguement

native lodge
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I didn't

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I am just trying to be honest about what I am talking about

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unlike you

austere maple
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at the time you hit 3 with winnie you arew dead at a two tap with slate slug at 60m nice

native lodge
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winnie has less damage, but better MV, more ammo, better rof

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thats easily contending with slugs at those ranges

native lodge
austere maple
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you have to hit 3 they have to hit 2 it doesnt matter where you stand

native lodge
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I mean it does

austere maple
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the earth is flat

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bye

native lodge
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also the low MV of slugs is a factor at that range

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ignoring all the other points in favor of the winnie focusing only on damage is exactly a fair way to compare the weapons now is it

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sparks does more damage at that range than winnie therefore better?

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not even getting into the other weapons other than the winnie

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or the fact that these guns also have custom ammo to factor in

late wind
little carbon
# austere maple you lose half life not nagotiable

Can you be sure that both were body shots. Might have been headshots.
Slugs deal 150 damage to the head up to 25m. Body is a decently lower multiplier and we are talking about more then twice the distance. It doesn't deal 75 damage with a bodyshot at 60m. Either you were closer or they headshot you twice, which isn't hard if you stood still

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# little carbon Can you be sure that both were body shots. Might have been headshots. Slugs deal...

man its totally fine to die at 25m idc about that thats close range and the shotgun should have the advantage ... i was losing half my life at 60 70 he didnt bother to shoot with his pistol he was just spamming the slate i dont know what more i can say i used my two vits and after that gg if you try medkit its to slow and he will run close range and then he will definitely be below 25 and oneshot

dense shuttle
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Rename "hotfix" s to "hotbug"s since they don't fix anything

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queen jungle
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For Hunt, Crytek's audio team recommends using stereo headphones without any hardware or software-based surround modifications.

late wind
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Maybe it's my headphones. Maybe my hearing is damaged from my previous job. All I know is the brass sounds the same to me when it hits the ground, regardless of surface.

atomic cipher
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45 mins is ok. I'd prefer 35 but anything is better than 1 hour

queen jungle
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I'm all for a compromise: 1:45h

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dense shuttle
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the same people whining about the 60m are the same people whining about not having autorun, smh

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unborn smelt
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hence i don't think the amount of camping actually changes

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pure quest
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my experience, 20-25 minutes is all you need for a fun game, that still doesnt play forced, has time to change direction, place traps, flank around a compound etc

unborn dagger
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That's on you for not trying to push in. These maps are huge and you can spawn in on the other side of the fucking map where the bounty is

dense shuttle
unborn smelt
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a single camping instance will last shorter - but it's also far more arttractive to camp outside and trap others inside now because it pays off faster

pure quest
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for the campers, this doesnt change anything

unborn smelt
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that's why i expect camping outside to be more profitable with the change but no actual decrease in camping

pure quest
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even 10 minute matches wont change the camping as they will just run to extraction and camp there

unborn dagger
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^

pure quest
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a camper will be a camper, but there is also no reason to pretend you need 1 hour limits for your games

dense shuttle
pure quest
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i've had it once where time ran out, i can do with 45 min matches,

unborn dagger
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That's fair

pure quest
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saying " uhhg45 min matches, what is this COD?" is complete bull as well

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well, that's the hunt community for you i guess 😄

unborn smelt
unborn dagger
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Yep

pure quest
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oh sure, but its a common comment though

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wasnt it also a way to reduce server stress or something?

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during one event they had to do it so matches didnt last as long, too many people farming for the full hour etc leading to too many active matches and whatnot

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not sure how all that goes, but thats how i understood it

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improve servvv quallity 😄

unborn dagger
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I'm fine with 45 minutes cause I've tried it back in the scrapbeak event it was actually getting me to worry about time while also letting me do what I like.

atomic cipher
# unborn smelt there's always 2 camping - if you're outside and not doing anything but waiting ...

The way the game is designed "camping" is more advantageous/profitable in most cases. And I'm not even talking about pure boss layer camping. Just camping in general. "do your job " as you put it means push into a predominantly disadvantageous situation and hope for the best. Me personally, I do not have time or patience to sit and wait so I do push but it doesn't change the fact it's a flawed system. So saying "do your job" is a bit wrong don't you think?

dense shuttle
pure quest
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me neither, but then i dont know how their servers are set up now (vs how they were during scrapbeak event) and how many matches there are etc. but who knows

dense shuttle
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or the netcode is complete 💩

pure quest
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45 minutes is fine. It'll mean a small difference for only a handful of games. I'm sure the crytek folks have the statistics on how many matches will be cut short when you set the timer to 45 min

dense shuttle
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we need Battle(non)sense to test the game 😛

unborn smelt
pure quest
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well, time to play my first hunt game in months ! (on pc) Let's see how this goes

dense shuttle
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etc

unborn smelt
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camping is pretty bad - opportunistic play is the sweetspot in terms of profitable play

pure quest
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oh sounds good

unborn smelt
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and the reason is pretty simple - if your camping - so you're stationary you rely one one moment of surprise and are just out of position to blovck or follow everytime else. and the only really campable objective, the boss, is disadvantaged for camping because timer is a thing so nobody needs to push you there

pure quest
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which can be perceived as both.
You know someone is coming towards you (crows/zombies), so instead of keep going for the clues, you place a trap, lay an ambush.
The dude who dies obviously will shout! "camper basterds, go play a game!" while its just a simply opportunity that came along for the winning team

unborn smelt
pure quest
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yeah but the line between camping/tactics is a bit blurry

unborn smelt
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and as such i think the devs need to make out when complaining about campers is really about actually camping (like the old concertina lair, or extract camping) or justpbeople drawing the short end of the stick on an ambush

pure quest
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you could also say sitting in a bush with a sniper over 100 m is ' tactics', as theyre not likely to shoot back at you

unborn smelt
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never said it wasn't

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no do i call it camping

half stag
unborn smelt
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It can be camping if they sit in the same few bushes till the worlds ending - but if they move smartly and strike after rotations it's opportunistic

unborn smelt
pure quest
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other find it campings only if you do it for more than 15 minutes etc

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speaking of camping, i just died, kill 2 solo's. There's a duo just waiting here, for about 5 minutes now 😄

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nobody fighting the boss at all 😄

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oh 1 kill was part of the camping duo i see actuallyMavCringe

unborn smelt
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well there we go. We got the culprit

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and one of the IMO major reasons for a lot of the mexican standoffs that everyone describes when they complain about camping

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If you're down a bar - you're fucked if you try to play agressive. Especially with a Cqc loadout

fossil frost
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Most of the time if I'm outside the boss compound with my friends and turns into a Mexican standoff and nothing happening no one inside peaks cause they have shotguns and traps we don't push because we have rifles we just leave and don't bother wasting our time waiting or pushing into a disadvantage

pure quest
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Yeah. I mean, each their own playstyle, but this also comes down to others (people always pushing regardless of their health) being annoyed at the 'play it safe' playstyle

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yeah same. Well, we always push, but the moment we see concertina bombs everywhere for example, we also just immediatly extract and go for a new game asap instead of waiting around for 20 minutes if something happens

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thats a whole extra game you could've played right there! 😆

fossil frost
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Yup we won't go to the church just south of supper can't recall the name of it anymore. Before the recent change one guy with a Mosin pixel peaking the one staircase outside the other was concertinad guy with a shotgun at the ladder and the third with dual fmj chain pistols at thr inside stairs waiting for someone to come down we left the match on the other side of the map and they were still there

unborn smelt
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bronze quail
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Technically the objective of the game is extracting the bounty. If a team decides to camp inside the layer for 1h is their fault, the team outside is just playing the game waiting for them to come out cause they have to do it at one point.
Actually pushing outside with shotguns is way easyer to push inside with rifles against shotguns if you know how to play imo. There is almost always a way to get outside compounds shortening distance from teams camping outside or at least making them run away and gaining space of movement. But on the other side there are not so many ways to get inside a compound using rifles playing against a shotgun.
[ON A 1 TEAM V 1 TEAM]

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On a full single bounty server obviously is a clusterfuck and the ones inside are most of the times the ones in the middle of everything so its ok to wait a bit inside, but after the 2 other teams are dead they need to do something

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exept from some exeptions like everybody without ammo, healt ecc, but anyway the game needs to end, there is no point of waiting 50 minutes inside cause your team is all at 50 hp hoping that something will happen

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dense sapphire
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@austere jungle (Remove Duos)
Solution: don't play duos

austere jungle
dense sapphire
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nah

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I'd rather play hunt

austere jungle
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fair enough

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hasty mango
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I appreciate and enjoy the idea of summons, but the selection and/or rotation of summons needs to be changed. I have been given the "Rawhide" dusters for the 3rd week in a row and it kills the drive to do them when it can and is the same mission every week. It would be better to have a larger selection or weapons with skins if that is what it needs to be, but getting dusters 3 weeks in a row, does not feel good.
Also I hope there will be an update for it in 1.9, because it is being repetitive with other missions as well. That being the "Gun" and "Lantern" grunts. Mix it up.

vital drum
brave trail
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Why doesn't Crytek make our event progress and twitch drops (which is tied to our individual Crytek Accounts) the same across devices? (I play PC and Xbox bc some friends don't have one or the other)

remote lake
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@fair pelican you can view your equipment by pressing "Esc", no?

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You can also keep the equipment bar always on, I believe. There must be a relevant HUD setting.

jovial flint
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Does Crytek actually look at our weapon suggestions?
Cuz sometimes it’s like talking to a brick wall

hot vigil
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Which is fine, bc some people just want stuff in the game without really thinking on how it affects it.

fluid locust
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hell yea they're reducing the timer to 45 minutes?

hot vigil
ripe basalt
hot vigil
little carbon
# jovial flint Does Crytek actually look at our weapon suggestions? Cuz sometimes it’s like tal...

A popular suggestion might still be a bad idea for a multitude of reasons.
It might be unbalanced, most people here are (unsurprisingly) not experts in game balance and don't consider all the effects a weapon implementation would have.

The weapon might just go against hunt's design philosophy, in which case, regardless of how popular and balanced it is, it won't and shouldn't be implemented so that Hunts identity isn't compromised.

And this discord is not a representation of the community, as only a very small fraction of the community is active here. The suggestion channel is not even a good representation of this discord.

normal horizon
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multiple weapon suggestions made it into the game, like terminus, winfield vandal, slate, schottfield etc

jovial flint
hot vigil
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I did suggest the Berthier tho c:

alpine burrow
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@ruby laurel there is no cross platform? Also if any of my team are holding a scopes rifle in lobby I am out (a lot will leave) as snipers only fight and die alone and never res and even run to exit😂.I always re search if I get a sniper

crude aspen
alpine burrow
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If no friends on yea, usually have cracking games and good laugh with randos. You get the occasional knob head😂 but mostly good games

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I don’t care what their kds are just don’t have a sniper🤪

crude aspen
unborn smelt
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@elfin wasp The rotation of the hand on the Bow stance is not really wrong.

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Holding a bow low like that with palm side up is really really uncomfortable.

vague patio
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sick anvil
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@keen bolt Oi , check Suggestion ideas you might find something that you might like

keen bolt
sick anvil
keen bolt
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Was about to ask where lol

sick anvil
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i used nixas calculator

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and pulled data then did build a spredsheet

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to plot the graph

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then i aproximated new proposed damage curve

keen bolt
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Damn

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A fine job I say

keen bolt
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If it's that much but I say it's only fair since most of them didn't even bring something special

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78 damage at 83m is very strong imo

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But I mean calculating from Vetterli (approximately)

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But if it ever got implemented It will make Springfield a really strong contender which I really like

sick anvil
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i kinda find odd that if you look at % medium ammo is worse at range than compact

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unborn smelt
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I'd rather switch grips when it comes to shooting

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And a reverse draw (anchoring the backside of your hand on or under the face) is also a thing, albeit not very popular.

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So while not popular nor consistent to the ingame animation - it is not a wrong stance

sick anvil
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@keen bolt this is adding in all ammo types and also change to medium pistol

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keen bolt
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Xd

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Damn

sick anvil
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wut ?

olive sparrow
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Fairly new to the game been playing for 5 months. Does console have cheaters? When spectating after dying some players are hitting every shot head shot and blasting head shots through walls when I have no idea how they know the players position. Guess some of these guys are day one gods?

unborn smelt
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crystal plume
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Console patch notes are posted there as it lets them format it similarly to steam patch notes

unborn smelt
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I don't know tbh - havent used a console in ages

crystal plume
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I don't know why you'd need the app for it unless you're trying to view it on the console or something, can't you just open it on a phone's browser at that point

unborn smelt
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you can just access reddit on the mobile browser too

spice topaz
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But hunt reddit is "mature content" these days and you need to use the app to "verify your age"

unborn smelt
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I tried it before making the comment and could access it easily on phone without the app

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