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[steady prism]

they are not bound to reply to anything that happens... especially not the shittfest that is #feedback

[untold prism]

Yeah, because I literally mean right now, today, right at this second, or they suck.

[tribal wyvern]

I mean they're pretty active otherwise.

[untold prism]

👍 Cool

[sick anvil]

its not like devs will be talking to the community. mostly cm will put out an announcement and the closest to addressing is dev streams

and thats pretty much run through news answer one or two questions

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[distant hollow]

Oof

Nvm then

[sick anvil]

@orchid wadi Dragons breath is magnesium pellets they ignite from friction as they pass trough the air the only thing that heats the barrel is the propellant the pellets are usually in a sabot meaning the magnesium does not contact the barrel

[harsh yoke]

Get rid of explosive crossbow bolts… Absolutely should not be in the game

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[atomic sedge]

@slim raft wait, picked up skins dont count? can someone confirm this?

[slim raft]

i confirmed it with my friend, he dropped his bow for me since i didn't own the DLC, i got a kill and he also got a kill in the same match with said bow

no progression to it

but he also got progression for both kills since he had the same quest and he owned the DLC

also if you crash/disconnect and your teammate gets progression to your summons, you don't get it as well. you have to be re-connected already or still connected. (so rip if you crash and are in load screen reconnecting for getting kills, etc when it happens)

[jovial lodge]

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[distant hollow]

Oh thanks man!

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[floral vapor]

We don’t get much direct communication. Only person who pops in briefly is a Jr Artist and it’s never anything about the game unless it’s straight damage control

Dev streams are surface level a d honestly the questions they field probably got asked by a CM posing as a player

It’s very heavily curated and feels like corporate-PR rather than actually engaging the players

[jovial lodge]

Not sure how you get that sense as the questions are often collected by mods or just read straight out of chat.

They try to cover a wide variety of questions and usually if they're not answering a widely asked question it's possible that they've already addressed it in that very stream or otherwise in a recent stream

[floral vapor]

#game-ideas message
@calm relic Me thinks it’s fair to assume the people who downvote camp in boss building with traps that make it extremely difficult to get a good angle

[dusty otter]

is anybody else frame lagging hard on an rx580 8g during close quarter firefights, or is it just me?

like, my fps stays above 70-80 ish with medium/low settings, but its like the game itself is tearing

hard to click heads when the game fucking stops processing.

[floral vapor]

AMD rendering is having a lot of problems from what I can tell from the frequent complaints coming up

I have no idea whether or not it it will be fixed and afaik has not been addressed publicly

[sick anvil]

Do not have the rx580 have had the same thing happening but in higher FPS counts on my PC the game reports 130FPS but plays like a slide show

Whit the situations i have seen it happen i am starting to think it is some sort of targeted network attack

[floral vapor]

You using AMD?

Seen a lot of AMD users report the same problem

[sick anvil]

10900K - 2080super , 32GB CL 14 -14 -14- 34 1T 3200MHZ memory

[floral vapor]

Huh, you've got an RTX and you're having issues?

That's very strange

[sick anvil]

Another PC that has the same issues at the same time
9900K 1080TI

[floral vapor]

Now that is strange

Maybe you could try limiting your performance through afterburner? Underclocking

I don't know if that would help but I'm really not sure what else to do

[sick anvil]

My temps are around 60°C

[floral vapor]

That is a little warm but I don't have a computer as beefy as yours so it doesn't generate so much heat

[floral vapor]

Yeah I'm not sure, if underclocking doesn't work then I've got nothing

You could also maybe try using v-sync or g-sync if you haven't already

[sick anvil]

It has nothing to do with OC or underclocking .
or with drivers or settings

I rand the same drivers since April 2020 only recently updated drivers the game was running fine

its 18 and 181

[floral vapor]

If you’re going to argue with the people who are trying to help why bother asking for help

Report it to the devs with more details I guess

[sick anvil]

I do appreciate your help. I was not arguing but I have tried everything that can be tried.
And i have already drawn a conclusion that my hardware is fine

[floral vapor]

Idk then man. Use customer support and put it in #troubleshooting with every detail and method you’ve tried to maximize the chance it gets seen

[sick anvil]

I have been quite active there trying to eliminate HW issues for others

The exact time line is my PC manifest the same issue since may 23rd hotfix
While AMD systems have been reporting this issue since March when 1.8 went on live .
before this was a irregular issue
While frame drops were there since 1.6 mostly on lower end PCs
The first reports of this came from Asia region now it has spread to EU and US too

[dusty otter]

sorry for late reply posh, but yea, i'm on an AMD ryzen 5 3600x and a radeon rx580 8g, plays literally any other game on high settings @ 90-120 fps, this game on low, I barely get 90 and it stutters during team fights

16gb ram, cpu is OC to 4.1ghz, runs smooth as can be in apex/destiny 2/ warzone

but this game, just eats my setup alive...i don't get it

[floral vapor]

Collect your specs, get some footage, detail any steps you’ve taken it and support it first to customer support on crytek’s /hunt’s site and then put it in #troubleshooting

[floral vapor]

Other AMD users have been reporting similar issues and afaik it hasn’t been addressed publicly

[sick anvil]

Instead of Tech PC post the thing in to feedback

because

[floral vapor]

Still a user might know a trick we don’t

That’s why I suggested going through support first

[dusty otter]

that's honestly why i'm posting

i disabled freesync on my monitor thinking maybe it would help

made it 2x worse with the stuttering

[floral vapor]

Sorry bro. I’ve never worked on rigs with AMDs before so I don’t know a lot about them

[sick anvil]

From my talks with AMD guys that know what their doing only thing that reduces the issue and not gets it rid of it is to overclock the memory to kingdom come

[floral vapor]

Depending on the system that could be dangerous to the PC

@dusty otter I definitely recommend posting that to #feedback like shain suggested as well as technical issues and customer support. I don't think there's much we can do for you, this seems like the ball is in Crytek's court

[sick anvil]

Depends more on the Memory kit than anything
Buying a kit that is capable of C14 out of the box on 3200 or 3600 MHZ will mostly be the solution but again those kits are using Samsung B-die chips and are quite expensive

taking in consideration that the memory kit costs more than Trents GPU

you said it the ball is in Cryteks court as only a small group of hunt players is capable and has the understanding how to actually tune the PC to keep it still capable of running the game with out any issues

[floral vapor]

Aye

[sick anvil]

Your feedbacks going to get deleted when mods look in there

they going to say its not for discussions

[floral vapor]

I don't really care

They can play damage control all they want

I'm not the only person who's complaining

[sick anvil]

its not because of the complaint its because you respond to the feeback in that channel

if you copy and paste the statement and add your 2 cents it sticks

[dusty otter]

Wish I could tell you what ram i have, but i can tell you it wasnt expensive

it was a double 8g stick kit from best buy with rgb shit on it

[sick anvil]

Ill drop a link how to find out in #troubleshooting

[floral vapor]

If he's on windows task manager will do the trick

SHould*

[dusty otter]

vengeance pro 3200mhz timings are 16-17-17-17

[blissful pewter]

@sick anvil I have a theory as to some of the reason why there is lag/stutter when entering a new area. I'm gonna test it out later

[sick anvil]

Do share

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[blissful pewter]

I'm pretty sure each compound has its own reflections and when entering a new compound everything has the change to those reflections

like if you look at the reflection of the scope of a gun at lawson you can see an image in it. The image is a specific part of lawson

but if you to like blanchette there will be a different reflection image'

so when going to a new area everything on your hunter and weapons has to switch to those reflectoins.

this is an optimized way of doing reflections

but when going in between compounds it can cause issue and especially if you are on the border of the two

[sick anvil]

Hmm so when your theory is true you can replicate the stutters

[blissful pewter]

I am going to test it in a little

[near sail]

I mean, your setup is low-med end from 2016. Lower frames is to be expected, no?

[blissful pewter]

If it has to do windows weapons hunters and probably some other things probably would

thats why im going to test just to see

I know with at least unity something like this can make some real optimization issues

not saying that cryengine is the same as unity just something that I know from experience

I am gonna look at it rn

I think that does have to do with apart of it. I dont think its only the reflections are the only thing

Well I have been proven wrong

though I have found something quite interesting about the reflections

There seems to be a load zone about every 25? 50? meters for new reflections to come in.

not really even a consistent distance

just every now and then

[floral vapor]

#game-ideas message

@prime ibex Just... just retire them bro

If your hunter is 100% maxed at level 50 there's no reason to hold onto them

[unborn smelt]

There is tho

[floral vapor]

Enlighten me

[unborn smelt]

They are fully kitted on perks making them stronger in combat

[floral vapor]

Doesn't that get a little boring to just hold onto your hunters and never retire them?

[unborn smelt]

All exp they earn directly goes into bloodline - making you progress faster, including the infinite lvl 100 loop that awards money on each completion

I mean if you find it boring go for new hunters - no shame in that

[floral vapor]

Fair enough

[unborn smelt]

But there is actual reasons not to if you so desire

[floral vapor]

I found it more worthwhile to just take the instant boost than to try and pull off more raids with them, it's a lot to lose, plus I just like the feeling of retiring

Feels nice to let a hunter go

[prime ibex]

I'm already level 100, and I get a measly 200 every 5k from each max hunter. I already get a fully perked-out hunter on level 30-35. Aside pointless clout, Maxed Hunters are absolute in their current state and have no further use afterwards.

No actual benefactor.

[unborn smelt]

that's intended there's a lot to lose if you die with a lvl 50

But if you can make it just one or two rounds they bring in more than retiring them does

[prime ibex]

I'm completely null on the amount of loss with a Hunter with or without perks. At the end, it comes down to the hunter living after match or not.

I've gone 3-4 rounds with a single hunter, maxed out on perks before even being maxed out on levels.

[unborn smelt]

well there is - sure 200$ aint much, but it's something

and depending on your perk setup lvl 30 might not be a full setup - that's 30 points which is a lot, but doc + frontiersman is already 16 points and a very common high performance trait setup

add fanning or QM and were rapidly nearing the 30 with a lot of slots free for the taking still

[prime ibex]

I've always gone with a legendary hunters that gives either 1-2 useful perks, or 3 if I'm lucky enough, and w/e else is either moderately good, or trash.

Legend Hunters just give more than any Tier hunter would.

[unborn smelt]

legendaries give what any T3 would

[prime ibex]

But cheaper.

[unborn smelt]

yes - that's why you don't see what you get upfront

But since the reductions of sales prices T3 are admittedly pretty shite

[signal mural]

You are choosing not to use the bonuses and instead are asking for extras to accommodate your lack of desire to Prestige and/or retire.

[prime ibex]

Which is why 95% of the roster is Golden lol

[crystal plume]

Yeah lvl 50 hunters have been the best way of ranking up and prestiging for years now, I don't really see a reason to give them any more "real" advantages when there's people who can't get them nearly as often as others and currently that only affects the speed they gain xp pretty much

[prime ibex]

I don't want to prestige because I'm 98% on everything it. 1% is unlocks, and the rest is mastery. Besides so, I've only seen a long run bonus to Prestiging, and it's not that enticing since I already have everything I want. @signal mural

[crystal plume]

To me it sounds almost like a "poor getting poorer and rich getting richer" situation as people who can easily get lvl 50s consistently would just get yet another benefit for them while people who struggle with that will barely get to experience said benefits, hence why keeping it at just a XP advantage is pretty much the fairest option

[signal mural]

Good but that just means you are out of content for your own personal achievements. The limitations set to Hunters and the Bloodline are there to keep some amount of balance in a "rogue-lite" PvPvE shooter.

[prime ibex]

@crystal plume I personally just want a better use to maxed hunters so I'm not just tossing them to bloodline.

As is for those who struggle more, the idea of getting benefits for a maxed hunter to use them at the strongest sounds better than retiring to push progression sounds better I'd think. Gives another reason to both using a maxed and the option to toss for more bloodline.

My vision of the idea seems unnecessary, but it feeds into possibly the next content drop. Devs have the current perks at a pretty good balance. Them applying upgraded versions of each perk be tiring, but wouldn't be entirely game breaking.

[unborn smelt]

who says it wouldn't be - we used to have T 3 be dominatingly OP in the past, through other means but it was really really bad for gameplay.
And as was said already there are already advantages - and while you choose not to want them for the risk they carry - most people seem to not want to risk lvl 50 being too advantageus

[crystal plume]

@broken ravine You can just separate the vault and jump key, I prefer having my vault key as V

Makes it much more consistent for both actions

[floral vapor]

Really? Didn't know that. Does it really make leaping onto things like barrels more consistent?

[crystal plume]

I don't think barrels are really meant to be vaulted on, usually you still need to jump on them

[floral vapor]

@hasty egret I can tell you've never played with bad ping before, playing with high ping is completely and utterly unplayable.

[hasty egret]

@floral vapor i can tell youve never hopped on another server an ping abused ur self

its cringe asf idc what you say

[floral vapor]

Fam on my NATIVE server I hover around 100 ping, sometimes getting up way past that. It's awful, rubberbanding every other step, your shots won't always count, people teleport around and it's hard to hit people

High ping is in no way an advantage

It's frustrating at best to play with and completely unplayable at worst

[hasty egret]

@floral vapor like i said everyone ive talked to an played with BESIDES you think ping abusing is broken

[floral vapor]

I'm guessing most of those people sit on fiber optic cables and only have to worry about an occasional ping spike to around 120 on a bad day

[hasty egret]

i mean no big man

im mid west

cant even connect to west cost servers

[floral vapor]

Rural internet is hell to play with, I couldn't even play before "upgrading" to a router that's equivalent to something from over a decade ago

[hasty egret]

bc ping is 180

happens

either way ik alot of ppl agree some may disagree but its annoying to say the least

[floral vapor]

At least we can relate on something

[unborn smelt]

The issue is that what people think ping abuse does, or it is is often very very far from the truth and depends on the way the game works

the typical "they kill me before i see them", "they kill me while i'm in cover" , "I can't hit them because of ping" etc accusations thrown around are simply wrong

the first two are a matter of perspective and high ping is not an actual advantage, third one is complete bs

[floral vapor]

Yeah pretty much this

[unborn smelt]

what i think is valid is that with increasing ping disparity stuff gets wonkier and feels more off (without actually being unfair gameplay wise)

And smth many also forget is that you can freely set your region and name in steam - just because it says one region doesn't mean that's true in the slightest

[tribal wyvern]

@broken ravine
I highly recommend setting vault & jump to separate keybinds. Theres an option for it.

[crystal plume]

I already mentioned it earlier

[tribal wyvern]

Ah okey.
Should almost just be default. The both jump/vault is so unreliable.

[little carbon]

It's definitely not everyone who is saying that ping abuse exists.
It does not. It's the same with trades. While the situation looks to be unfavourable and weird to the low ping person currently, if the same encounter had happened on low ping the outcome would have actually been more in favor of the current high ping person

[clever prawn]

uhh

ping abusing is a real thing

[vague patio]

no

[clever prawn]

however its the same of accusing someone of cheating

most of the time its a perfectly fine situation

[vague patio]

ping abuse is a scape goat to use, cause you dont want to face the fact that you fucked yourself

the only difference to lower ping is, the time it takes to show you that you fucked yourself

@amber tundra hmmmm you forgot the nerf that actually killed the gun, the one where double action revolvers got swayincrease while shooting, which fucked that guns handling

[clever prawn]

yes but thats because you dont abuse it

[vague patio]

lol

[tribal wyvern]

Well you clearly don't abuse well enough, git gud with your abusing okey.
(jk)

For real tho, im curious how ppl actually "abuse" it.

Fair enough 🙂

[floral vapor]

Thank you

[tribal wyvern]

They seem so convinced that it is abuseable.
So one would think it is possible

[floral vapor]

I'm tired of seeing people bitch about high ping, I play on high ping 24/7 and it doesn't benefit me in the slightest.

It's just another way of scapegoating your own failures

[tribal wyvern]

Me & a friend tried playing on Asian server, was a pain in the butt.

[floral vapor]

Exactly

[tribal wyvern]

Even with the language, i 100% agree with this.

[vague patio]

i had the pleasant experience on test servers, its fucked

its so confusing

[tribal wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-big-cup-sassy-tea-cup-gif-16979903

[hasty egret]

[floral vapor]

I noticed that too

Honestly the fact that a person would even consider disagreeing would be mindblowing

@open barn I would have thought from your name you'd love my very dumb bad idea that few people would use

Are you an imposter?

What did you do with the REAL BadIdeaBarbarian?

[open barn]

XD

https://tenor.com/view/sus-suspect-among-us-gif-18663592

[floral vapor]

Put that shit away

You see the word imposter and think about magic space beans

Shameful

[open barn]

magic space beans in suits

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[floral vapor]

@slow valve You downvote almost everything, almost every suggestion that has 1 downvote is only you and no one else

[sacred sparrow]

@floral vapor salty kids be salty. just a part of online gaming, so people get enjoyment out of stuff like that. just ignore them

[floral vapor]

Ngl thought for a second you were him pinging me and I was just like "huh"

[sacred sparrow]

@floral vapor bet your were getting ready for a big internet man keyboard exchange when you saw the ping huh 😄 nah nothing to worry about 😄 i'm with you

[floral vapor]

I wasn't planning to argue with him regardless

I was just confused

[sacred sparrow]

that's the strategy

[floral vapor]

It's a waste of time if people are genuinely getting upset with you, trying to reason just makes them more upset

At most I'll try to calm them down a couple times then just bail if they don't want to let it go

[slow valve]

@floral vapor i mean i downvot the idea i dont like ... isn"t this chanel ment 4 that ?

[open barn]

yea @floral vapor everyone is entitled to an opinion and to be honest i dont like the idea of players using exp to keep their hunters goodies or character it ruins the high risk and high reward feel of hunt

[floral vapor]

I wasn’t even talking about that

[floral vapor]

Also I think you misunderstood slightly?

[open barn]

regardless i still don't like the idea

[floral vapor]

Alright? The title literally says “very dumb and bad idea”

Did you really feel the need to tell me?

[open barn]

if your gonna tag me and demand an opinion. your gonna get it, its called criticism so im gonna go I got nothing else to say.

bye

[floral vapor]

I made a joke about your name bruv

Chill

[crystal plume]

@tranquil mist That would belong into #bug-reports-pc rather than feedback

So someone from QA may see it and note it down

[tranquil mist]

oh okay my bad ill delete and repost

[clever prawn]

why am i sometimes not allowed to vote?

[crystal plume]

You can't react to messages from people that have blocked you, not sure if there's other possible causes as well

[floral vapor]

@grand plaza why not all?

Why just some

[floral vapor]

@dire merlin you’re telling me you stared at a man for 30 seconds and he A: didn’t move turn or switch items even once, pr B: that you still couldn’t see him if he did?

That sounds like display calibration issues

Or salt

[slow valve]

Posh u said every sugest that has only 1 downvot is only mee than show it bcs onestly i checked and dotn find any ther is alwais at least 6/10 downvot (minimum)

u just pissed bcs i downvoted ur sugest or what ?

[floral vapor]

Word salad

[clever prawn]

might be a bug then bc theres alot of people i have never seen,i my vote just gets removed and my screen starts shakign

[crystal plume]

That's usually a sign of being blocked by them

At least it has been for me

[grand plaza]

@floral vapor I think if the servers/client have to track all your fallen hunters this could provide a considerable load after some time. Also I don't think a lot of people would be interested in scrolling through an endless list so having your last 5-10 hunters should be a good compromise. And if you have a pretty badass Hunter you want to remember you could always screenshot his personal gravestone page.

[floral vapor]

Crytek already tracks every step we take, angles we hold, every single gun we have ever bought sold held or hoarded

They track literally everything we have ever done in game except for VOiP

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Example: Shotguns/buckshot fire modes get one type, with option to set differently for slug

Rifles get their own settings

Pistols get their own setting

You get the idea```

[floral vapor]

Ah fuck

[digital nacelle]

@dire merlin cain is plenty visible at this point, he’s been lightened twice. if you can’t see him by now that’s your problem

[spice topaz]

And what does it matter when majority of legendary hunters released the last year or so can be described as gray blobs.

[queen jungle]

There are videos out there where a supposed Cain is hiding and aiming at the player's head and in the end it's revealed it's actually a whiteshirt that the viewer didn't notice.

[vague patio]

nerf whiteshirts

[floral vapor]

Ah yes, the good ol bait and switch

Got a link to any of those?

I mean it's not really fun if you're looking for the whiteshirt because you instantly spot them but still

[dim heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WozYCjIwlSI

[floral vapor]

Tyvm

Video quality too low in fullscreen on my internet to see EITHER of them lmao

Ah so he was behind foliage that literally no hunter would be visible through by design

That isn't really a demonstration of the point

That's just a demonstration that... some of the foliage is designed to obscure your model

Granted, Cain's definitely better than he was

I haven't had issues finding cain since his model got changed

[dim heron]

the channel has a few videos about things in Hunt that are broken

[floral vapor]

I assume they're all in the same vain yea?

[dim heron]

what vain is that

👀

[floral vapor]

Not gonna say that he's necessarily wrong but there are definitely issues with Hunt

[floral vapor]

What's with the eyes

You starin at me?

[dim heron]

There's a Cain and a white shirt in every scene of that video

btw

[floral vapor]

DO YOU KNOW WHO I FOCKIN AM M8 IM DANNY G FROM BIRMINGHAM

[dim heron]

only one was shown

[floral vapor]

I couldn't see either of them straight up

[dim heron]

Some were in foliage, some were just standing beside a tree

[floral vapor]

The last scene he put the hunter behind foliage designed to cover up your model, so that's a little bit unfair

But the other ones I just can't see them because I'm an idiot

[dim heron]

I didn't put him behind foliage, the foliage just happened to be there. I put the white shirt beside a tree >.>

[floral vapor]

I just now noticed your name lmfao

[dim heron]

she had to walk across the water

lol

[floral vapor]

Ahh

[dim heron]

Most of the videos are made for fun though

[floral vapor]

I never said I wasn't blind af

[dim heron]

they're not to be taken too serious

[floral vapor]

My eyesight is shit, though, 20/80 with corrective glasses

[dim heron]

https://youtu.be/4ewkJKxUogU

like that one

[floral vapor]

Do you even know how hard that makes playing games out to be

[dim heron]

oh wow 😮

[floral vapor]

Now THAT I can get behind

I play on 100-200 ping on my closest server NA east, and I'm so fucking tired of people whining about ping abuse

Like bro ping is such a massive frustration and disadvantage

it makes the game unplayable and frustrating

[dim heron]

I feel that :c

[floral vapor]

ANY game

[dim heron]

why do you play at such a high ping

[past socket]

so tired of dying after I reach cover from people from Russia on Eu servers, when is the region lock coming ?

[floral vapor]

@past socket Hahahaha

Here's one of them

You got wallbanged sweetheart

[dim heron]

most likely shot before you reached cover tbh, it's just a ping delay.

normal ping would have made the same shot

you would have just died earlier

you're not dying because of the ping

[floral vapor]

P much

Ping has never done anything but gotten me killed by rubberbanding up ledges (although part of that is some of the wonky collision bounds in certain compounds on the newer maps)

[past socket]

I honestly don't get tilted when I get killed from a person from Germany in example, but when I see Steam level 0, 3 friends, 1-2 games owned, Russian Federation on Eu server, the blood pressure reaches sky high

[vague patio]

seems like you got some other problems then ping

[floral vapor]

Tbf

that is a sus profile

It happens on Rust a lot

[vague patio]

ping abuse is a scape goat to use, cause you dont want to face the fact that you fucked yourself earlier

[floral vapor]

Rust has a lot of issues with brand new profiles that have thousands of hours in a game they've only owned for a couple of months

If you couldn't guess those people are cheaters

Not saying the guy is cheating, but that's definitely a suspicious as fuck profile

[vague patio]

yea, thats an entirely different matter

[floral vapor]

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if the guy was outright cheating, but ping abuse just does not exist

Ping is a massive disadvantage, not to mention RU doesn't get bad ping to EU

People from Asia and RU both play on EU as a secondary server because they get decent ping

[vague patio]

isnt it possible to just put your profile country to russia

[floral vapor]

That too, but does it really matter at that point

If he's in EU or Russia, he's not getting bad ping

At least not because of distance

[vague patio]

big topic, just thing about the implication

people always single out the "russian" profiles

just how many are even that

[floral vapor]

Yeah

[vague patio]

i once had half my steam friendlist turn russian, i dont know why, i guessed it was a meme

[floral vapor]

If you’re seeing people from halfway across the world however? Then you should be worried

Like NA in SEA or RU

Or vise versa

[zinc solstice]

holy shit is the game really that dark for some people or is that just a thing with an old patch of hunt?

[ruby magnet]

Yeah that's basically how dark it is for me. Fun times.

[zinc solstice]

yeah mines like half that dark

like its dark, but i can still see things

[ruby magnet]

And some people can laser you straight through all that.

I even upped the gamma with the in-game options but it's still a dark hole I'm staring into. And I wouldn't mind it being dark, but its not equally dark for all players so despite me using the shadows to my advantage there's plenty players spotting me in dense dark foliage like it was a daylight map

[floral vapor]

I had to turn my gamma up high because I couldn't see grunts walking around in dark rooms

[dusty otter]

PLEASE lower the ping limit for us east, soooo sick of getting zero hit markers on clear shots thanks to your handshake mechanic and stupid high ping limit....Who thought it was a good idea to have a ping limit that high in the first place????

[tribal wyvern]

I can fortunately turn up my brightness on my monitor + gamma to see pretty well.

[vague patio]

thats not how any of this works

scroll up

[queen jungle]

@jade canopy That's surprisingly poor performance. I get 80-85 FPS on almost all max settings on my R5 2600X, GTX 1070Ti and 32GB 3000MHz RAM at 1080p.
Do you have any resource-hungry programs running in the background? I have heard of people having dozens of browser tabs open which ate up their PC's resources and caused performance issues of the game.

[sick anvil]

Well its 1080p all cpu bottlenecked if memory is off whack or is a cheaper higher latency kit you are loosing fps and 1080ti 2080ti and 3090 the difference with the same cpu is less than 15fps

its either throw few cores running as fast as possible or throw as many cores at the game

currently i would say the game is worst optimized it ever was

[pulsar cradle]

high ping spikes (>1000ms) + red packet loss warnings these days. Only when I am connected to Hunt server (NAW or NAE).

[pulsar cradle]

I've tested a few other games and bunch of ping tests, changing the wifi adapter, but I still have that issue.

[queen jungle]

@magic ridge Personally I'd prefer having some sort of range indicator in the spyglass instead of a simple ping that tells you the distance. This way, it's more immersive and there is also more skill involved in reliably figuring out a distance.
With precise numbers, I'm afraid people will just be hedging at the outermost range their guns may one-shot at.

[steady prism]

For those hating @prime ibex 's suggestion... before you dislike do the maths...

Lebel has 34rpm
with 10% increase its 37rpm

Vetterli has 42rpm
with 15% increase its 48rpm

Standart winchester has 50rpm

EDIT:
Im actually dumb... i wrote that wrong and thought he suggested perk for faster hipfiring...

thats basically almost no difference at all

i would like that... since it could open new possible loadouts... especially for vetterli it would be huge buff... but i dont think that adding 6rpm will make any difference...

[slow valve]

not nesesary the math that ppl dotn like but the idea it self

[steady prism]

Standart winchester has 50 rpm
Levering rises that to 132 rpm

thats a lot more than twice that

[slow valve]

the thing is that levering was something that was ment to be

like the winchester was disigned to be used like that

thats why they used lever action

but how do you justifi how they can shoot faster

[steady prism]

well magazine bolt-actions were also designed to be comfortably fired from hip...

lebel even has a switch to enable feeding from magazine, which should only be used up close

[slow valve]

in his description did hi said even 1 time hip ?

[steady prism]

yes

no wait

imma dumb

well then its completely pointless since there already is a perk that increase speed while ADSing

[slow valve]

i have probs with thees waht is ads'in XD dnt remember 4 me its aim or hip and all

[steady prism]

nah i automatically assumed that he wants perk for hipfiring

since iron something exists

[slow valve]

yeaa ads is aiming right ? (not shur)

[steady prism]

ye thats aimed down sightts

[slow valve]

yaa bcs thats why i put a maybe on his suggestion like ther is no justification on why you would shoot faster

[steady prism]

ye ADS speed boost is completely redundant since there already is a perk for that

[slow valve]

or the famous justification => he is trained soldier , but iff wee say that we can say that for every weapon

[steady prism]

i mean... operating weaponry from Hunt's era is extremely hard

and most of the weapons are already handled at peak performance... especially revolvers...

hell even crossbows, which people find extremely slow are INSANELY fast to reload... i couldnt do that IRL

[slow valve]

yeaa but when u reload crosbow with pers instead of loading the spring then u put the bolt , u put the bolt and load the spring with it

so ther is a justification to that

[steady prism]

ye im not saying its unreal... im saying it takes A LOT of skill

i cant even imagine how you want to make that faster... maybe some black magix

[slow valve]

yeaa but wee r in a game so ....

and im rdy to bet u can get that faster

by tool 4 exampl

[steady prism]

ye but how

[slow valve]

having a piece of wood with a hook u put the hook on the spring , than pull the piece of wood (a litl handl on it) the fact that the handl is biger than the rope spring will hurt less ur figers right ?

[steady prism]

ye that sounds reasonable

[slow valve]

so basicaly this improve the loading

and iff instead of 1 hand u use 2 hand and block the crosbow with ur feet

if u knew what i mean

[steady prism]

you cant do that tho...

since you re moving about

[slow valve]

bet ?

[steady prism]

maybe they could make an animation that allows you to reload xbow faster while stationary 🤔

and if you move you cancel the animation

[slow valve]

yeaa

if you move yes u can't

[steady prism]

that could theoretically work

[slow valve]

but iff u stand still and block it with ur feet u use 2 hand pul hup and voila

[steady prism]

ye that could work)

[slow valve]

the tool i spook about exist lol

thats why ther is a hole at the tip

[steady prism]

ye

[slow valve]

its to put ur foot in it

[steady prism]

that could be nice variant for xbow...

since rn theres just a basic and smol variant

[slow valve]

nehh i think ints fine like that

[steady prism]

wrong channel

complaints go to #feedback

we try to keep this channel pure 😄

[tribal wyvern]

@prime ibex
Pretty sure that already exists.

[prime ibex]

If you're referring to Iron Sharpshooter it doesn't increase fire rate, instead it syncs hip-fire with ADS.

[silent tartan]

But it increases firerate because of it

[karmic ivy]

@pure cliff I would rather they go with what they already have arranged. I have no complaints and who is to say that a new provider would be better? I would rather they spend the money and effort elsewhere.

[pure cliff]

Might as well be hosted on some P4's in McLovins Mothers Basement

[karmic ivy]

I don't know who mclovins is, but if it is not broke, don't fix it. And its not broke.

[pure cliff]

It's definitely broken

[weary cradle]

I noticed that when I click twice on the mosin, I fire one round and then the one after the bolt cycles fires. Is anyone else getting this?

[karmic ivy]

So what is it that convinces you the fault lies with the server, and not something else?

[pure cliff]

Because it ran just fine yesterday and nothing had changed on my end today!!

[karmic ivy]

I see. If I was you I would try to ask tech support to help you find the source of your problems. They have some tools to help with that.

[dense sapphire]

@amber tundra (Officer Carbine Buff)
The problem with the carbine isn't the ammo, it's the recoil and sway

If it got a buff, I'd like it to lose the increasing sway nerf the semi autos and base officer got.

[digital nacelle]

[dense sapphire]

@winged flint (PvE Gamemodes)
Hunt is not only a distinctly PvP game but also an inherently sweaty one. If you don't like that fact, Hunt might not be the game for you. I personally am opposed to the idea of PvE gamemodes as the mobs are not designed to be interesting PvE enemies but rather as sound traps and pacing filler. Work on another gamemode (which would almost certainly be inferior to bounty hunt) would also take away development from the main game.

@magic ridge (Distance Ping)
Measuring distances in Hunt is a core skill that should be learned, not given freely. However, using up a tool slot almost exclusively for this information seems fair but a distance ping seems out of place. Maybe add something physically to the spyglass itself that seems more in world.

@proud narwhal (Pax Buff)
Honestly, I think pax should just get HV. While not entirely realistic it would give the Pax an instant and powerful niche.

[proud narwhal]

I WOULD put that in, but not having HV ammo opens up the pax more for other weapon variants

longbarrel pax is something new and needed, and has its own stats that wouldnt match HV ammo's effects

and plus, imagine long barrel pax with HV ammo, it would have an insane Muzzle velocity. Theres a reason I didnt think HV would be a good idea on pax, since its a lazy fix for weapon balanacing

the devs have neglected pax for way too long

[dense sapphire]

Lazy? Maybe but it'd be very effective.

[proud narwhal]

Longbarrel pax would be better than HV

[dense sapphire]

If you want a longbarrel pax, just upgrade to uppercut

[proud narwhal]

and more realistic

[dense sapphire]

HV pax offers something entirely different, a pistol above 500 m/s

[quick kettle]

I’d love HV Pax just to be able to pair it with the Vetterli

[dense sapphire]

That's something no other pistol can match

[proud narwhal]

thats not the point, I dont think long ammo meta should exist, simply upgrading to something else because its better isint how it should work

[dense sapphire]

As for an uppercut contemporary, we should just get a new pistol for that

[proud narwhal]

upgrading to an uppercut will only push medium ammo farther down

[proud narwhal]

why make a new pistol when you could upgrade an existing one? It doesnt make much sense the ammount of work it would take putting a new weapon in the game

[dense sapphire]

What I meant is that a longbarrel pax is still just worse than an uppercut in every way while still being a relatively expensive sidearm

Sure, adding another 100 bucks on it is pricy but it's well worth it

And 180 for a pistol is already not cheap

[proud narwhal]

its stats are almost the exact same as the uppercut other than being medium ammo

[dense sapphire]

Might as go all the way

Yeah

Thats an issue

A big one

You lose a significant amount of penetration AND damage falloff

[proud narwhal]

you do know that HV on medium is $90 right?

longbarrel pax would be cheaper

[dense sapphire]

Yes

But HV pax is entirely different

[proud narwhal]

using HV wouldnt upgrade the effective range

[dense sapphire]

500 m/s on a pistol is a big deal

[proud narwhal]

and with the longbareel, you have fmj to compete with long ammo

[dense sapphire]

Or

Or

You could use an uppercut

Longbarrel pax doesnt compete with uppercut at all

[proud narwhal]

You dont understand what im saying though long ammo shouldnt be the go-to for hunt

[dense sapphire]

1. That's your opinion

[proud narwhal]

It does with headshots

[dense sapphire]

2. Your suggestions does not change the status quo

[dense sapphire]

Being able to headshot at +100m with a 330 m/s pistol is nice but it's still a slow bullet

If you ask me, longbarrel pax FMJ or upper, I'm taking upper in almost every circumstance

If you ask me HV pax or upper, I'd consider HV pax

I'd still probably bring upper more, but I'd bring HV pax more than I would longbarrel pax FMJ

[rocky steeple]

Pax is a great sidearm. It's just unfortunate that it is being left in the back considering the amount of varient the scottfield have

[dense sapphire]

Bro sick name

[proud narwhal]

Thats exactly why It needs so much more love

[dense sapphire]

Pax needs something, I do agree

But I think it should be competing with the scottfield rather than the uppercut

[rocky steeple]

Anyways, I play the pax or the uppercut. I do understand uppercut should be the final resort, but that doesn't mean pax should be in the dirt.

[dense sapphire]

And the uppercut should get it's own competition in a new long ammo sidearm

[rocky steeple]

Adding pax carbine, long barrel pax, hv ammo, or silenced pax would be some good additions.

Silenced pax not sure, but an idea is an idea.

[dense sapphire]

A new silenced weapon would be fun

Silenced nitro 🙂

[rocky steeple]

Personally i always wanted a silenced shotgun.

🤣🤌

[dense sapphire]

heh

funny

Tho...

xbow

[rocky steeple]

Fr tho, I take the pax over the scottie 100% of the time. So if they actually do something about pax, it would be great.

Xbow without the trait is very difficult for me to work with. Part of the reason would be I have not played with Xbow much.

[dense sapphire]

Xbow is nasty once you learn it

Imagine a silenced Romero that 1 taps at 35m

It’s definitely harder to use and less reliable but it’s a monster once you get it down

[rocky steeple]

Ye but, unfortunately I play on the Asia server on the 6* elo. Losing wall back potential is very huge. Shotbolt, does go through but its not a consistent wall banger

[dense sapphire]

I can’t wall bang for shit so it doesn’t matter much to me

[rocky steeple]

But you are right. I definitely should learn the crossbow.

[dense sapphire]

I’ve played this game for a long time but I still can’t hit a stationary grunt, hit easy wallbangs, or look down

shrugs

[rocky steeple]

But Asian server got bigger problem anyways. Higher elo games have very high chance of wallers or abusers 😔

[dense sapphire]

Sounds fun

[queen jungle]

@torn sage If you get killed by a suspicious player, you will see their name and have the ability to report. Same if they use in-game communications to e. g. insult you.

What argument would be in favour of being able to report any player? I fear it would just lead to report-abuse (which was an issue in the past).

[torn sage]

if you get killed by them then yes. u will but i wanted to report anothen team member that didnt kill me

thanks.

[queen jungle]

But then how would you identify the suspicious player if you didn't know their name from in-game already?

[torn sage]

@queen jungle watched a guy take a sticky to the face and 2 rifle shots from my self and walk it off. his partner killed me but his name in the post game is listed as unknown.

[queen jungle]

In that case you can still open a ticket with Crytek's #customer-support. Include what information you have and ideally a video of the incident so they can investigate.

[torn sage]

or then could display the names so i could repoty him without all the steps like sending in videos

if you dont like my suggestion give it a thumbs down

[frosty garnet]

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Legendary Hunters should be free again since we already paid it with micro transaction.```

[wispy smelt]

Anybody else tired of staircases turning into slides you cannot stand still on?

[little carbon]

Yes, that is a case where showing everyone might help. (Not saying the guy was actually cheating, there can be a bunch of explanations for what happened probably)
But generally showing the extra people will lead to problems. People are already claiming cheats and other reportable offenses way to often without actual good cause.
So all in all it's better to not show the name.
And you don't need to add in a video on the website, you can report without one.

Generally it's better if reporting takes a little bit of effort, because that drastically reduces people who just click on report whenever they die.

@jade canopy you are saying that people with high ping get their ping as extra time to shoot you when you get into cover. Please do realize that they also see you leave your previous cover delayed by their ping. So they don't get extra time, just everything delayed. And with the current trading system, they are at a disadvantage. If a high ping trade would have happened at low latency, 90% of times only the person with previous high ping would have gotten the kill

[winged flint]

Hell the main game barely works for us old gen players anyways

[fluid locust]

Agreed. Long ammo has been meta for like 3+ years. It deserves a long needed nerf.

[proud narwhal]

I could kiss you rn thank god I'm not the only one

[fluid locust]

A lot of people don't understand how strong and oppressive long ammo is it seems. It's very prevalent and annoying at high ELOs. Especially the damn snipers hiding outside dark sight range. But even snipers aside base long ammo legit just has no down sides. Best pen, velocity, damage, dropoff/range, headshot range. And it gets spitzer for more velocity and pen. What is the downside? I legit can't think of one. Just straight upgrade tbh.

[proud narwhal]

That's exactly why we need to lift up other ammo types

[austere maple]

well thats not the purpose of a pistol normally you dont suppose to headshot someone at 100m with a pistol

[ruby magnet]

Lower body shot damage is the drawback and is a compelling one given how much damage base long ammo does and its damage retention over range.

[austere maple]

i agree with that

[ruby magnet]

I dislike long ammo because it's boring, but because it's just that good. In what situation is long ammo bad? None. It's the premium ammo type. It's also VERY VERY spamable on most long ammo guns.

And with spammavle I'm not talking RoF. I'm talking total ammo count.

And the ease with which you resupply it

[ruby magnet]

And now before people call me out saying its bad in close quarters. That's a gun specific type topic. Not a bullet type topic.

[oblique linden]

i really hope they will add a good anticamping because in high MMR this game is full of trash camper

shotgun camper or sniper camper? choose your camp

[warped kayak]

My session yesterday sums up this issue, out of my seven extractions I only got into a real fight for one of them, the other six were against long ammo snipers sitting 150m back defending two extracts so we just ran to the third just to deny them everything

I understand why sniping is a thing, but honestly there's a difference between using sniping to create pressure and just using them for kills and throwing out any chance of getting the bounty

[proud narwhal]

Those are kd farmers, they'll do anything to get a kill, and play awfully for it. It's insanely frustrating but thats just how some people play

I'm a shift w player, I'm insanely aggressive, but I have a 1.60 KD and have hit 6 star multiple times, people like that who camp nonstop ruin just about everything about people who play like me :/

[warped kayak]

Fortunately I've not had any on my team yet but yesterday was my first proper taste of six star lobbies and yeah it's weird as fuck

[warm zephyr]

@marsh path lol no. You claim to want a pax buff but here you are gutting it. Also the scottfield cannot have hv rounds because of the break action

Oh disregard the pax buff thing

The pax even with fmj should still have 300m/s

"more in line" isn't necessary

Also 400m/s for fmj springfield is just shit tbh

The vetterli with its yeeyeeass barrel length only gutted 60m/s

[marsh path]

yes but in terms of balance, 280 seemed reasonable and is the reduction already applied on the scottfield. i do feel med ammo pistols should be faster than compact in general, but devs seem to think otherwise.
The more in line was more referring to how scottfield and new army with fmj shoot far slower than other pistols, so i owuld porefer pistols shoot similar speeds, not 50% slower than others (new army 200ms vs 300ms for most others), but the speeds in general could be set to whatever.
400ms isnt shit its the same mv as a vast amount of weapons in game and its a trade off, mv for damage at range, you cant just have both, but again, the reduction numbers are just an arbitrary figure and could be adjusted, hence the use of the ~ symbol, around that number..

[warm zephyr]

-280 just makes choosing the pax redundant. Just use the ccp
-scottfield is a break action
-"med should be faster than compact" do you hear yourself?

• shoot similar speeds (you problem)
  -400m/s too slow imo

@marsh path

[marsh path]

280 doesnt make pax redundant as its now carrying fmj so acts as an ammo reserve, much the same reason people take fmj on scottfield, the extra 10m before dmg drop doesnt make much difference
ok why does long ammo shoot faster? and not med

• similar speeds, its pretty widely agreed that its easier to shoot at one velocity than trying to learn all velocities and you will be more consistent shooting one speed than constantly switching back and forth, not that its not doable, but it would be nice to have a pistol oither than an uppercut that shoots that velocity.
  400m/s too slow - your problem

[warm zephyr]

Can't be bothered to waste any more time on you then. Enjoy the votes.

[marsh path]

well done on being a p r i c k

[warm zephyr]

I'll leave you with this

[tribal wyvern]

@floral vapor
That channel is called Feedback lol

A cesspool of venting

[sick anvil]

@valid ingot i doubt my opinion is that summon 9 is designed to sell latest dlc that is out

i was honestly expecting with the new dlc that was out to switch to that one it seems that is not yet fully automated

[sick anvil]

@ornate sluice must be a new record or something

[unreal laurel]

I feel like so many people don't understand they can just

Do the easier summons on repeat

[sick anvil]

Or could it maybe be that they are missing the point that its purely to push DLC sales and thought it be actual challenges meant to be difficult because are the most specific .
Or just be fed up with the quote " f U gimme money " message of that challange

[unreal laurel]

Idk. 5 BB a week shouldn't be an incentive to buy DLC to anybody who understands how BBs work

People should know you can earn more than 5 BB in a single game more often than not

[sick anvil]

Its a thing of principle

[unreal laurel]

I'm not defending it but ATM it feels waaaaay overblown

The game has plenty more significant things to complain about

[sick anvil]

I do agree more issues that are more pressing are present in the game.
Letting this one slide now will just make it worse down the road

[unreal laurel]

Idk if Crytek will make it more blatant

[sick anvil]

they are doing the boil the frog aproach

[unreal laurel]

It's just such... An insignificant amount. I own all the DLC and have still felt no desire to do summon 9 each week

[sick anvil]

first reduce BB rewards then increase BB skin costs then add overpriced time limited skins to events . then increase DLC by 1€ then add another €

sneak a buy a loot box roll with a new system in

[unreal laurel]

I think they understand the community aren't idiots

[sick anvil]

That is why most people do not see the whole picture and who do are ridiculed

[frosty garnet]

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[warm zephyr]

I play fairly and worked hard for my kd and what do i get? Getting headshot by lebel splitzer from 300m through the wall. Thanks crytek!

[austere maple]

if someone killed you from 300 meters thats skill, about the kd you shouldnt care its stupid... kd doesnt show anything and it should be hidden and no one care about it

[sick anvil]

its not skill its derendering objects and obstacles thus in most cases you can literally see trough walls

[austere maple]

i dont think that through the scope is derenderd

[sick anvil]

200 meters smaller objects de render at 300 whole walls go poof
in some areas like example from seven sisters to Pelican from white house the elongated white house never renders the back wall if you are further than 100 meters

From pelican to king snake where the large elevator is you do not see fences and some of the rocks

[austere maple]

man if people can take these kills from me its fine

[sick anvil]

if the objects were rendered the kills would not be possible

because there would be a tree covering a branch or walls

[austere maple]

if you move maybe they will hit but not kill if you crouch like a duck i am happy for the kills

[sick anvil]

So in your opinion its perfectly fine to sit out at behind fort bolden and kill people inside of seven sisters that is absolutely no way you can see ?

just because the game is screwed up and if you are far enough the walls are see trough

but hunter models are clearly visible

[austere maple]

DONT SIT

you dont suppose to sit in the game, if you do thats your problem

[sick anvil]

So just because you are not winning an argument go ahead all caps and make it bold just for the sake of it

So there is absolutely no reason you should be behind cover at all

[austere maple]

you dont have an arguement

the purpose of the game is not to sit if you do whatever happens its on you.

thats it

[sick anvil]

how delusional are you . Do you understand that being that far out what is solid cover is not cover

[austere maple]

xaxaxaxaxaxa ok

[sick anvil]

or are you really that delusional that you are telling me seeing trough walls is normal

[austere maple]

you are the kid that want to have the final word idc

[unborn smelt]

@normal igloo Summon nr. 9 as of now will always require DLC.

in case you don't know you can still get the weekly by repeating some of the other summons a few times

[wanton nexus]

So Crytek, u guys are closing the Hunt Showdown project? I see that u gave up fighting with cheaters. It's like almost ever match there is a cheater in lobby. When I play randoms, I can see people starring on a solid wall and shooting headshots through them. This is so disgusting. I'm writing to your community managers sometimes. There was a time when they did something about the cheaters problem, they delegated proofs to people that can ban such behaviours, but right now? Nobody say anything when I reach out. I see the same people getting 4-9 KDA week by week only cheating. Servers are dying all over the world, you guys don't do anything about it. It's sad watching my favourite game die. Is there anybody who can help right now? Maybe change of staff? I understand you guys are tired of this, so maybe management could move you to another project?

[normal igloo]

It always requires a new dlc I don't have, at least for me. This is very predatory game design shoehorning me into buying more. Condering how many dlc there are it is quite the coincidence that it never is an older one that I already have. Do you have any plans to make this less predatory and more consumer friendly?

Nvm, didn't realise you're just a mod sorry

[unborn smelt]

well afaik it's not set to always require new DLC

But i understand the frustration of how the mission feels

[normal igloo]

It has even been the same weapon twice for me

[unborn smelt]

I don't like the way they feel either tbh

[normal igloo]

If it were just that it would be a different story, the problem is the compounding economy changes. Since they started with it I didn't really get to buy a bb skin, because I needed to use those bb's to buy UX features that should be in the base game... And that is by design

[unborn smelt]

But they did manage to stay away from it being actually predatory pretty well, It's not predatory like a lootbox where you just get a chance to get a reward you like, it doesn't give any gameplay advantage, it just rewards bloodbonds (both itself and the weekly it help finish) which are just for earning more QoL or cosmetics

[normal igloo]

The game literally has a daily lootbox

That gets offered right at the amount where a 9/5 working person would likely end their session

[unborn smelt]

which is capped at 1 use per day

what makes a lootbox predatory is that you may need to / be encouraged to buy it over and over again until you get the desired reward

[normal igloo]

It is gambling

With undisclosed rates

[unborn smelt]

what keeps Hunt's chairy lootbox from being actually predatory is that it's capped at once a day - so you're rule out kids or suceptible people to just mass buy them and spend tonns of money.

as well as you are forced to earn 3 of those Lootboxes before you even get the option to buy a single one - so they literally limit you to once a day and and a max of 25% of em can be paid for

So while it does have "gambling" it does a very good job of keeping the stuff that makes gambling addictive and explotable out of it

[normal igloo]

For what it's worth hunt at least is 18+, so it's intended market isn't kids

[unborn smelt]

well yes but lets be honest - that doesn't stop some unresponsible parents from making it available to kids anyways...

[normal igloo]

Ofc, but it's still a different thing than stuff like candy crush etc

But none of this changes the fact that the legendary summon is shit and needs to change

Looking forward the the monetisation blog post being "we need more money so we're turning this game into a mobile game" in corporate speak

[warm zephyr]

Wallbang, my teammate too

[worthy knoll]

Please make the Pax Lightning (and Long Barrel and FMJ) true

[warm zephyr]

My teammate and I, got wallbang headshotted from sub 300m with lebel splitzer. There was at least 2 walls between us and the killer.

He only fired twice

[austere maple]

do you have a clip?(just curiosity😛 )

[warm zephyr]

No

Just play on asia server. Happens on the daily

[queen jungle]

@warm zephyr Telling people whether somebody they reported was in fact cheating or not is likely to cause legal issues as online identifiers are considered personal information in some places.

[warm zephyr]

sigh.

Is there nothing that can be done?

so tired.

getting headshotted through walls even though there were no gaps

it wasn't multiple shots. it's never body shots. they sneak all the way over there, with no line of sight and can still headshot you through walls with just one shot.

[warm zephyr]

can't we just have simple feedback that says how many you have reported were banned/cleared of suspect, without names?

[queen jungle]

I'm no legal expert by any means, but I can imagine that most people would still be able to draw conclusions. Let's say you reported four players in the last year or so and you get told that three people you reported were in fact cheaters, you could still tell with a high probability.

[foggy nebula]

Eure Server sind mal wieder richtig scheiße heute. Trotz guten Ping und Frames ohne Benachrichtigung, nur am springen. Wann bekommt ihr es endlich geschissen, dass die Server richtig laufen. Kohle könnt Ihr ja immer ohne Probleme abgreifen.

[queen jungle]

Please stick to English in this channel. Also, no need to use strong language. 🙂

[steady prism]

uhh... just askin

if i cant vote on someones post => he blocked me amiright?

[digital nacelle]

yeah, you can’t react to someone’s messages if they’ve blocked you

[frosty garnet]

@chilly salmon, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

I would prefere to wait longer knowing I will get a full lobby than to get empty lobbies. This is not part of "hunt" knowing how many players there are. This is shit matchmaking. Majority of us are not 13 with time to kill.```

[queen jungle]

@rigid basalt Similar ideas have been suggested before, but it would likely cause legal issues since some countries consider online nicknames to be personal identifiable information.

[rigid basalt]

i know what u mena but as their name is visual anyway for other palyers within the match i think hidsing teh username in those country woiuld simply do the job or adding it to the terms&conditions so forcing people to agree to their name beeign shown if bannd also would be a scare-off for cheaters

[queen jungle]

That might be an option, although I assume it's easier for Crytek to just keep the current policy instead of potentially exposing them to legal risks.
Especially since there is no guarantee anybody will believe those messages. For a while, our community managers posted regular updates on the numbers of cheaters banned on the Steam forums and many people doubted the numbers right away.

I've encountered plenty of players throughout the years who saw cheaters left and right and reported anybody they died to and I doubt anything can change those peoples' views.

[calm gyro]

I don't see why this shouldn't be possible.

When you report someone in League of Legends, if there was punishment taken, you get a notification saying someone you recently reported was punished

[native lodge]

its a legal issue with privacy laws

[calm gyro]

As long as the notification doesn't tell you WHO was banned it should be okay

If it was a legal issue I doubt Riot would be doing it though?

[queen jungle]

Not sure how many people you report, but it's been three in four years of Hunt for me so I'd easily be able to tell

[native lodge]

Riot is not a German company

[calm gyro]

No but they operate in Germany/EU

[warm zephyr]

asia server i report like 5 in a week

[calm gyro]

And they have much more to lose than Crytek. I imagine they did their homework on whether they're breaking any laws.

I don't care either way, I'm just saying a similar system *is* possible if they really wanted to implement it

[queen jungle]

Maybe they are just more wiling to take a risk. I know of other publishers who stopped using public pillories when GDPR came into effect.

[warm zephyr]

I really wish the devs would address the rampant chinese cheats

[native lodge]

well I would assume if Riot sent you a message about someone being banned, and that message came from outside of the EU or Germany. its outside of that Jurisdiction. but thats a guess on my part

[calm gyro]

It's not a message, just a notification the next time you log in

It's dependent on your region your account is in

[native lodge]

meaning it came from the devs directly

so the USA

[calm gyro]

No?

[native lodge]

yes

support staff at riot would handle those

[calm gyro]

The report system is largely automated

[queen jungle]

GDPR protects EU citizens world wide. That's why for example some US websites refuse any users from the EU since they didn't want to adjust their privacy policies

[native lodge]

alright then I guess Riot just doesn't care?

also possible

[calm gyro]

I really doubt a company of their size would take that risk, to be honest

I personally don't see why people care about if the person was punished or not

Report it and move on

[queen jungle]

Yeah I agree, that approach is certainly best for your enjoyment of the game. Let Crytek's customer support handle the report, they will take appropriate action.

[queen jungle]

It's something they are thinking about, but don't have any specific plans yet.

[cursive lava]

@floral vapor that’s not impossible to get. Every animal pen can be entered and exited.

[floral vapor]

No door, I can jump IN but there's no way to get out

[lucid vigil]

Wondering, was it ever suggest to provide some kind of statistics that shows the more recent performance. For Example KDA of last x games? The overall KD showing is basicly useless after 1000hours.

[floral vapor]

@prime ibex Ew

[prime ibex]

You're ew.

[floral vapor]

If I start seeing the fucking weeb stick in hunt that's it

I'll fuckin jump

100% will instaburn any mfer I see carrying one

[prime ibex]

Yikes. Anime has nothing to do with old traditions and craftsmanship of Japanese weaponry. lol

[floral vapor]

Yeah but we know that's why people want it

Katanas only ever saw use in emergencies, carrying them was more about the symbolic value, if you were down to your katana life was already getting pretty bad for you

They're cool and all but please not in Hunt I beg of ye

@quasi gorge From what I understand solo hunt was removed because people played it like quickplay, super campy and bush-campy even in lower MMRs

[prime ibex]

Eh, maybe. Bit broad. Still the weapon can be implemented into Hunt and have half the expected impact.

[queen jungle]

Why not just have the Katana as a Cavalry Saber skin? Won't impact Hunt gameplay-wise, and it'll please the weebs (like myself)

[floral vapor]

I will make it my life mission to burn anyone I catch using that skin

[queen jungle]

And that's fine too

[quasi gorge]

Oh that's fair enough. I was thinking maybe less people in game but I understand

[jolly zinc]

I wish you could like permanently buy certain like tier 2 or tier 3 hunter skins cus there’s a few I like more than any of the legendary ones just sucks I can’t get them consistently if they die just gotta hope for the random shuffle

[floral vapor]

plz don't downvote that it's the only thing stopping my squeamish friend from buying and playing the game (as long as we don't fight the spider) and I'm so fucking tired of solo only

[crystal plume]

Are you blocking people to stop them from downvoting because I can't apply any votes to any of your suggestions

[floral vapor]

No I have an autoblock script for furries and anime profile pics, I tried to add you to the exception list but it keeps getting you anyway

I've unblocked you twice

Now thrice

There you go

Vote now

[jolly zinc]

Imagine

[crystal plume]

That's... interesting

[half stag]

huh

[jolly zinc]

Wait was he serious

[half stag]

this guy is weird

[floral vapor]

Look man, I don't judge your lifestyle

[half stag]

I literally had a talk with him before and he seemed chill, ig not

lmao

[jolly zinc]

Quite literally built differently

[half stag]

isn't he basically just limiting how likely it is that his suggestion will be seen?

[jolly zinc]

On another level

[floral vapor]

You have also been added to the exception list

I'm just testing it so I can sell it

[jolly zinc]

Nah keep him blocked out 😈

[floral vapor]

I mean I'm not mad that he doesn't like me for it

That's hit prerogative

[jolly zinc]

Hes an opposition

Take him off the cool kids list

[floral vapor]

So? People are allowed to think differently

[jolly zinc]

Take this mans thumbs up button

😈

[half stag]

you got any particular reason why you auto block them?

just curious

[floral vapor]

So I can sell the script to people who do care

[half stag]

I c

[floral vapor]

Money, cash money

[jolly zinc]

Thought he just didn’t like people with anime profile pics

Didn’t want their opinion

Lmao

[floral vapor]

I mean I go back and forth on furries

I don't hate them automatically but I've never met one I've liked

[jolly zinc]

Makes sense

[floral vapor]

That is probably not a discussion for this channel

[jolly zinc]

Mods are here run

Ayo 12

[crystal plume]

Getting off topic but how would it diffrenciate between real animals and fake ones

[floral vapor]

Colors, usually.

It's a WIP

Sometimes it just blocks people for seemingly no reason at all

I mean... yes and no?

It wouldn't be gory but the gore isn't what makes the game scary

It wouldn't effect how the enemies or the game play in any way

I just have a friend who's a squeamish boy who would only want to play if it wasn't as gory, and also he'd want me to never fight the spider which I mean... fine

I'm just so tired of playing solo man

Randoms are arguably worse than solo

Wait do you think that the SAW movies are scary?

They've got tons of gore

Exactly

The spider isn't terrifying because he creates a big shower of organs or something, he's scary because FUCKIN LOOK AT HIM

I didn't suggest we should be able to

I don't even care about gore, I love gore, I want more giblets

[late wind]

I make my girlfriend take spiders outside when I find them.

But in Hunt I suck it up and grab a hammer.

It's supposed to be a horror game my guy.

[floral vapor]

You're right, it is

But I want my wussy-ass friend to be able to enjoy it

I don't care about that, my friend does. The spider we can just straight up avoid

[late wind]

Everyone else playing deals with it. Even if they're afraid of some aspect of thw game.

[floral vapor]

Just remove the gory kill effects on grunts, un-expose exposed ribcages from horses and dogs

Not much

I just don't want to play solo anymore man

Have you ever tried playing with the hunt community

At least it's not apex

LFG is just randoms+

Random lobby but with voice comms

Same issues randoms have

I have never had good experienced with LFG in any game

I would rather run solo

[digital nacelle]

I find lfg is wayyyy better than randoms

[jovial flint]

@willow gulch
We can have a Punjab Khanda sword for the machete skin.

[vague patio]

@floral vapor 🤡

block me

[willow gulch]

Thats what I wrote.... I wrote them all in right order.. but some of the images didnt load in on discord

[jovial flint]

@willow gulch

I meant this form

[digital nacelle]

@jovial flint any reason why you reacted with 🤔 regarding my suggestion to fix the specter ammo pool bug?

[jovial flint]

Oh must have been a mis-click

[willow gulch]

Check the pic I sent, its the last one in the weapons list

where the image actually loads in

the other ones u gotta click on to see

[floral vapor]

Why tho

[willow gulch]

That could also work.... or the sabre could be a patar also since you stab with it

[vague patio]

^

[floral vapor]

I mean, alright

You realize I only have it to test it because I plan to sell it, yea?

[steady prism]

Very jnteresting indeed

[wind stream]

please lets move on to hunt related topics again

[steady prism]

I would even say disrespectful and offensive imho...

[little carbon]

There is s legal difference between operating in a country and being based in it

[jovial flint]

Or the Firangi for the cav saber

[jovial flint]

@willow gulch

[little carbon]

I highly doubt that, since you blocked me like literally 5 minutes after I downvoted your suggestion, and I'd say my profile picture is hardly anime or furry.
Not judging, it's your right to block people, but if you are using an Autoblock you might wanna look at the parameters

[jovial flint]

That other khanda design is more on the ceremonial side, probably not for wielding

[floral vapor]

@wind stream

[willow gulch]

Yeah I saw that, I'll change it

[jovial flint]

@willow gulch maybe you can suggest a Rajahstani dacoit or the British Shan State Dacoit for legendary hunters

[tawny meadow]

@floral vapor just... don't tab out

[floral vapor]

Why

WHy shouldn't I be able to tab out

There is NO good reason to force tab players back into the game

[tawny meadow]

You are forced back into the game?

[floral vapor]

Yes.

[floral vapor]

What do you think the suggestion is

[tawny meadow]

Well, i guess it's a thing to avoid afk people at the beginning of the match

That's annoying enough

[floral vapor]

I edited to make it more clear

But I don't think there's a good reason, if they're afk they'll still be afk when they're tabbed back in

The game already has background audio that only starts playing when you load into a match

It's pretty hard to not notice you've been loaded into a game

If you're tabbed out chances are you're doing something on your PC and will hear the background audio kick in

[tawny meadow]

I still prefer the force tab in

[floral vapor]

I hate it

I would at least like an option to turn it off

it's extremely annoying

[tawny meadow]

Let's agree to disagree

[floral vapor]

I don't see why having an option would hurt anyone

[tawny meadow]

Because even with the force tab back in a lot of people stay afk for some times at the beginning of the round, so i would prefer not to have this number increased even more.

[floral vapor]

It seems genuinely impossible that force tabbing players back in would cause anyone would come back sooner

If you're already getting a bunch of AFKs from the force tab, then clearly the force tab doesn't help

Funny thing is, the game doesn't force tab you when you're loading into a game

ONLY when you're going into the menu

If you don't want people AFKing in the menu idk what to even say to that

[austere maple]

@rigid basalt that would be blank(the ban chat suggestion) since people that cheating or exploiting never get banned

[wind stream]

That is wrong, please refrain from spreading misinformation

[floral vapor]

@clever prawn I love the martini but I do think that might be a bit busted even with the reasoning you provided

I don't think any of the longs should get spitzer tbh

[rigid basalt]

actually not complettly cause people get banned for beeing aholes too so there would be bans a lot of bans and it would scare of aholes and cheaters

[austere maple]

that would be almost blank(the ban chat suggestion) since people that cheating or exploiting rarely get banned (there are plenty videos in yt with known people exploiting and still not got banned so my statement now is correct)

[rigid basalt]

actually there are a lot of people gettign banned rigvht after login in with a cheat so we never see those so the numebrs would be different

[tribal wyvern]

You're making a suggestion, to fix a bug? O.o

[floral vapor]

If I block the Hunt: Showdown bot, does that mean I can never have my suggestions voted on?

Eh, fuck it I'll try it later

[vague patio]

you dont see the people who got banned, cause they were banned.

you dont even get to interact with them

[austere maple]

@floral vaporthe machete is just weak it needs some love making it cheaper doesnt change anything, I lost melee fight with machete over a knife 3 times in a row and if a had knife to i would have won or trade

[floral vapor]

Beautiful

[unborn smelt]

@floral vapor sabre is good - for a melee weapon
But not worth so much money.

To be worth so much it'f need to rival the power of officer, spitfire etc

[floral vapor]

Bro can you honestly say there's a single time in this game you've been worried about money

[unborn smelt]

And worse yet - a literal combination of martini + Sabre is only 160$

[clever prawn]

i dont think it is busted, it loses alot of the perks it has right now, in exchange for being the only perspectively good single shot marksman rifles, which rn is springfield at its best, with spitzer it can outclass the springfield marksman and vetterli marksman with HV, while still being a little less than a sparks sniper

[floral vapor]

ALL of the guns should be a touch more expensive

[austere maple]

your suggestion is about money

[clever prawn]

dont you like running one gauntlet and getting the best guns you can get 😛

[unborn smelt]

Doesnt mean it should be irrelavat for balance

[clever prawn]

price is not a way of balancing a gun

[floral vapor]

No, but it is currently

[unborn smelt]

Yes it is

Like it or not

[clever prawn]

no its not

[unborn smelt]

Now it shouldnt be the main thing for balance

[floral vapor]

Price is completely irrelevant rn, to run out of money you would have to be the worst player alive, just finding lairs can often recoup the cost of cheaper loadouts

[clever prawn]

an avto for 500 dollar or 200k is still the same gun

[unborn smelt]

But as long as hunt has an economy money is a valance factor

[austere maple]

why everything should be more expensive, WHY

[floral vapor]

It should be a factor, but the economy is so inflated it's near impossible to run out of money

[unborn smelt]

Yes but one would be played zoo much the other would be nearly never

[clever prawn]

idk if we are playing the same game mate but money isnt a problem for anyone in this game until youre a losing week while prestiging

[floral vapor]

Because running out of money is an extremely difficult task, you would have to be intentionally draining your funds to come anywhere close

[austere maple]

that a silly statement

[floral vapor]

I run the most expensive loadout every time, die most of the time, and still come out in the green

[unborn smelt]

Doesnt nean it had no influence...

[clever prawn]

barely

[unborn smelt]

If the weapon is too weak for its price peeps dont play it

[clever prawn]

safe to games up and you got an avto which if yo ucontrol it will give you 10k back

[tribal wyvern]

The reason Avto isn't played everygame is because of its price tag.
If it had 500 instead of 1250, i tell you, i'd use it far more often

But id need to play alot of mosin, since i prestige

[unborn smelt]

Cent is aldo a good example

Its an okay gun

Just not worth more than a vetterli

[floral vapor]

It's a factor, but the economy needs a rework

[tribal wyvern]

Can't rework it now. You'd piss of to many ppl

[floral vapor]

You can it'd just take work

And it'd be a careful process which I don't think is in Crytek's MO

Seriously, rn unless you're running avtomat every single round it's not really likely that you'll run out of cash

Even then if you win one game you'll get it back (enough for at least one avtomat I mean)

[unborn smelt]

Sure - you can shoot your own foot. Doesnt mean you should...

Issue with changing economy now is that it's too late in the games lifecyle

[floral vapor]

It really isn't an issue, other games have had similar overhauls and came out better for it

[unborn smelt]

You'd alienate a lot of players

[floral vapor]

As long as it was a positive change people would bitch about it for a few days and come back

Then it'd get dropped and nobody would bring it up anymore

If it's good for the game, people won't care

[unborn smelt]

There is no definitove positive or negative

[austere maple]

@floral vaporok lets assume everything is more expensive and your statement of players having a lot of money is true ... nothing changes cause as you said people have money and they dont care increasing everything or decreasing everything is just stupid cause in summary there is no difference so what you are suggestung is pointless

[unborn smelt]

Some would like it more restrictive - some wouldn't mint it gone entirely

[floral vapor]

🤔

[austere maple]

to have a change on something you have to increase some or decraese some not all

[unborn smelt]

Point still being the sabre is not worth 150$

If you get a riposte martini at 164$ for example

[austere maple]

saber is just fine

machette needs some rework in my opinion cause its just losing from a knife

[unborn smelt]

Sabre is already on the weak side - because of how weak melee weapon slots are and the tendency for melee to trade, which fucks the melee player entirely

[little carbon]

Sabre doesnt need to be more expensive. But melees do need a rework of some kind. Both the machete and the axe kinda dont do anything right now. But they also shouldnt be pvp focused weapons, cause then they are just the sabre with a different look.
There needs to be some kind of weapon identity for them that is useful (at least somewhat) and not represented by something else already

[unborn smelt]

Thats what i think too.
One of the easiest ways to improove Qol would be to give em plenty stamina, now that the shot is very expensive.

And ideally smth more interesting too, altho that would require a lot of work for potentially low outcome.

[clever prawn]

i encounter one almost every match

[clever prawn]

its not bc more expenses iwthout earning more,

i mean now in one round u earn ur weapons back

if you have to do 3 rounds to earn ur weapons back

now that would be interesting

with weapons i mean standard mosin/uppercut plus about $400 worth of tools/consumables

[vague patio]

machete should deal like 142 and heavy bleeding on heavy atack. still being secured killed but having greater chance to trade/get countered

saber should kill hives instantly

[clever prawn]

it does

click head

[vague patio]

not consistantly

[clever prawn]

click head and git gud

[vague patio]

a knife is easier to use for hives

[austere maple]

WORLDWIDE COMMOTION CLICK HEAD WOW HOW DIDNT HE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT

[austere maple]

well dusters just kills them wherever you hit them and makes all other melee to look stupid

[clever prawn]

mate its a fuckign hive

she literally hangs her head to the side so you can click her head easy without any weird body parts beign in the way

she is literally there to click head

[tribal wyvern]

Knuckleknife puts every melee to shame.

[austere maple]

no mate u cant literally it literally spins stupidly and literally half time hit body or literally the stupid hair that literally doesnt have hit box, literally only dusters literally one hit her literally no matter what mate

[dense shuttle]

I've seen multiple people while fighting having trouble to tap her head. The hitbox is inconsistent like the hellhounds. Sometimes you perfectly stab in head, but no it doesn't count

It's either a broken hitbox or server delay(more likely) that your hit registers in the server, in a different place

[clever prawn]

or git gut clickhead

never have any trouble with it

[tribal wyvern]

Dogs have tons of other issues than its hitbox.
The fact it can animation cancel its own jumps to jump again.

Frikking tryhard dogs

[clever prawn]

dogs are tryhard yes

but nothing wrong with hives

[dense shuttle]

nice logic. "I dont have any trouble therefore no one has"

[clever prawn]

you can literally walk around the bee swarm and stab them in the ehad

[dense shuttle]

10/10

I don't have any trouble killing 9 people in every game, therefore no one should have problems

it's ez click head

[clever prawn]

99% has no trouble with it

[dense shuttle]

lmao

Oh my god this is delusional

altf4

[austere maple]

how did you count them

[tribal wyvern]

I think you 2 argue different things.
I think you can agree she has inconsistent hitbox with the head, but no one really struggles with them

[dense shuttle]

struggle in terms of what?

It's not a hardcore thing

sometimes it just doesn't hitreg properly

and that's a fact (happens with every entity in the game)

it's still inexcusable that you can 1-hit melee with dusters but every other melee weapon may need 2 or more hits (on hives)

and someone will come up "BUT IN THE LORE, IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE 456th PAGE AT 45th SENTENCE IT SAYS HUNTERTH KILLTH THE HIVETH 1 HIT DUSTERS"

[signal mural]

I think melee could use some trait love. I posted this: Trait>'Barbaric'

Description: When using a melee-only weapon that uses a Primary/Secondary Slot (Loadout or PvE; non-tool slot) you move & sprint (marginally) faster. Ability point cost: 2.

It was one of my most down voted posts. But why? There are countless scenarios where melee is the underdog- traps, fanning, shotgun, etc. The lack of tools counting would reduce trait abuse and if you are running around in an open area with a melee weapon you are at a disadvantage if heard/spotted. If I am chasing down an enemy Hunter in close-quarters a little edge would nice. That or axe needs more reach... I feel like I have to be inside the enemy to hit him with axe lately.

[unborn smelt]

Dmg type matters.

Hive propably weak to blunt

[little carbon]

Actually, blunt is kinda the PvE damage type, so that would be fine

[dense shuttle]

then why does the light hammer attack sometimes not kill the hive? 🤔

[austere maple]

😂HERE COMES THE LORE

[dense shuttle]

or the blunt type knuckle knife in that case

damage is sometimes broken (even to enemy players), it has been like this since alpha

I'm still waiting for the day we can see the damage that we've dealt in the deathscreen

#bug-reports-pc would be filled to death

[unborn smelt]

Ptopably because people missjudge where they hit

[dense shuttle]

a little bit of a question. If you hit an enemy (wherever is the hitbox), does it say anywhere that he will sometimes not catch fire with dragonbreath (on shotguns) ?

This shell creates a several-meter-long jet of flame that ignites anything in its path. Reduced range over buckshot.

let me find the clip now

[unborn smelt]

Dont think so

But not all pellets fired will ignite

[dense shuttle]

he didn't have a burned chunk but he lost health

i've hit shots like this, 1 pixel after corners and they caught on fire

it's just broken

the hitreg is just mega poop

mega mega poop

i haven't trimmed the other clips, will upload them some day

[frigid folio]

you fired over her right shoulder

[dense shuttle]

i can provide you with the exact frame, as this one has dropped frames for compression

you can make out the line by seeing where it lands

don't pull up the "shots 1-3 missed" lol

stop excusing the game when there is plenty of proof that sometimes it just doesnt work

we all love it for the unique gameplay, but man the networking is trash

[little carbon]

There are 3 categories of melees to be considered. The small slot ones, dedicated melee weapons and attachments. I think it's easy to say that the dedicated melees should be the best, but placing the attachments is hard. Especially since they rarely come with actual downsides compared to the base variant (except the specter). They either need to be worse then small slot melees, so it's a tradeoff more tools for less melee power. Or they need to be very expensive because you buy yourself an additional tool slot. I think the most sensible thing here would just be to make them perform the same as small slots in all attributes but with significantly worse stamina usage.

[clever prawn]

alright how did you measure hit box/serverdelay?

maybe look at where u aim before blaming the game lmao

[dense shuttle]

with eyes

[clever prawn]

yeah i counted 99% with eyes

gg

[frigid folio]

I'm not excusing the game of anything, in this particular instance you missed. By a bee's d**k, but still missed

[austere maple]

you are so childish thats its not even funny or something

[dense shuttle]

you're missing frames because of the compression. The frame that I hit is exactly in the center of the body

ffs

[clever prawn]

not tryna be funny, u guys just cant handle that you cannot even hit a hive on a regular lmao

[dense shuttle]

@frigid folio you still sure that i hit over the shoulder?

you can literally see the spark behind her, there's no way this intersection comes up from the shoulder

otherwise it would be visible

[austere maple]

yeah we know you just cLiCkHeAdS

[dense shuttle]

there was another clip from the same guy with the same problem on a stationary enemy, and he aimed even more precise than me

sometimes it just doesnt work

servers are 2011 intel i3s, like ESO na servers

[clever prawn]

arm shot with new army is jsut a tickle

[clever prawn]

yeah git gut

[dense shuttle]

new army?

that's a vetterli

have you played the game for more than 2 minutes?

[clever prawn]

mny bad heard it wrong

but still

arm shot medium ammo tickles