feedback-discussion

[keen bolt]

Sometimes I just have big edits

[wind stream]

iterating on an idea is allowed

Keeping an eye on reposts is just a difficult task, so we appreciate any help we get from people reporting

[keen bolt]

There's a lot recently

Those being Springfield bayonets

[wind stream]

from the same user?

[keen bolt]

And Bows

Nah not really

[wind stream]

from different users is fine

[keen bolt]

But pretty much the same thing lmao

[wind stream]

a bit annoying, but we can't really expect people to dig through 4 years of suggestion history to find out if their idea is a duplicate

[keen bolt]

To be fair on that I do think Dev really need to add that one XD

True that

[keen bolt]

Tbh years ago it wasn't like that I made a post about same thing someone else suggest it and got deleted

[signal mural]

Yeah, I went searching but I guess the user deleted the original post and reposted. Water buckets was one of them and the Portable Med Kit...

Anyway, as far as the waterbucket goes: No, please. There are enough environmental pick-ups and one bucket of water is never enough to douse a fire. Use the smokes, it is what they are there for.

Portable Med Kit (funct. like Ammo Box)- Unnecessary IMO as you have bandages and shots you can administer one another. Not only that but almost every building tends to have a medkit somewhere in it.

Cool thanks- will do in the future if I catch it.

[keen bolt]

The Portable med kit is actually a great Idea

Tbh

Sacrifice your consumables to help your teammate while not totally impairing yourself

[signal mural]

I don't think it is a bad idea - just superfluous. There are already a LOT of healing options.

Everything already exists in the game for it's implementation so there's really no reason why not.

[keen bolt]

Well really if anything I think there should be a tool that let you like

Have 150 max HP

Temporarily

Basically lets you make a play

[signal mural]

I'm iffy on that TBH. It would need a huge negative to compensate. I read the suggestion and the first thing that came to mind is it should be a self-induced poison (that cannot be counter-acted by mythrandist) that boosts your health but disables all healing effects for 1.5x the duration.

And shows your aura in darksight when using poison sense. Triggers the Meatheads then too.

An anti-venom could end both affects early.

[wind stream]

Yes, that was the case, but with hunt getting more popular it got less practical

[keen bolt]

Make sense actually

[steel shoal]

@wispy folio already ahead of you #game-ideas message

[signal mural]

Hahaha - yeah, I saw that coming

[maiden pelican]

@rare hound scopes aren't actually cleaned by gun oil

[little carbon]

@lucid orbit All those filter options were removed for a reason. They could be used to gain an unfair advantage by upping up contrast etc..
The somewhat bleak art style and colors are a choice deliberately made by the designers. (Which also has a direct impact on gameplay, like hunter visibility, which is way higher if you have a more vibrant game)
I don't think hunt is or ever was intended to be some kind of colorful battle royale experience.

[crystal plume]

@warm zephyr I don't really see why you should post your technical problems as feedback, that error is most of the time driver related, and in pretty much all cases something on the person's system, not the game

I used to get that error in the newer cod ww2 game, fixed it eventually by changing my audio drivers

[frosty garnet]

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[hushed needle]

Required format?

[crystal plume]

@warm zephyr Feel free to respond to me here, not in #feedback 🙂

As that channel is not intended for discussions

And I do not see how showing a separate issue entirely is related to my point

You can literally google the error and see that it's mostly a driver related issue

[warm zephyr]

that does say something about how little faith the community has with crytek

[crystal plume]

So it's Crytek's fault that you assume that a crash with a error message that you can google immediately to troubleshoot the issue is instead their fault...?

[warm zephyr]

an error that happens in only crytek games.

afaik, my other games dont have this issue

[crystal plume]

Guess what, I had the error happen only in the game I mentioned as well

[warm zephyr]

point is,

[crystal plume]

And it was still fixed with audio driver updated and such

[warm zephyr]

community has lost faith in their competency

[crystal plume]

And the fact that you actually said "you shouldn't have to" in #troubleshooting when offered a possible solution, a driver related solution, tells quite a bit about your knowledge of PCs

If anything, you shouldn't have to update gpu drivers if you have no issues

Updating can lead into more issues, a lot of people roll back drivers to more stable versions and such

The only time you really want to update gpu drivers is if you want a specific new feature that is part of the new driver

[warm zephyr]

Good to know. But you miss my point

[crystal plume]

There is no point, you're choosing to be oblivious to the real issue and use Crytek as the scapegoat

[sick anvil]

On one hand in this specific case I agree but still #blameCrytek

[warm zephyr]

maybe. I did made a mistake on my part by blaming crytek for the error, BUT when it is the only game that this issue persist in, and the first reaction of the mods is to say "oh you should have googled ezpz you know little about computers", i think there is a slight issue here

you're right I'm not in anyway a computer expert but is it expected that I, a lay person would know by instinct that it wasn't related to crytek, when the game is riddled with bugs?

maybe I should've added a /s next time. good to know!

[terse quail]

Who likes the fact that grunts with torches can ignite barrels and oil?
I hate IT! Especially when you get stuck between these grunts and invisible objects!

[steel shoal]

#game-ideas message so close to 40

[native lodge]

I would imagine its because Hunts stamina system sucks, and a lot people run stam shots so they don't have to deal with it at all

[mystic mica]

Hey
I'm playing the game right now & I had 4 night maps in a row!
Not that I'm complaining of course, I love night maps.
But I was wondering, did crytek changed the the frequency of night maps?

[signal mural]

I like it. It's a bit of realism. It scared the shit out of me the first time I decked out a torch grunt near an oil trail. Don't kill em by oil barrels, problem solved.

[terse quail]

@signal mural it is just anoying. there a re so many things going wrong in this game. But Crytek goes for makeing AI even more anoying.

[signal mural]

That's not really AI. I'm not going to say the game is flawless (far from it) but I respect the effort to keep it a game about tension, patience, and attention to detail. I think making the game into a run-n-gun shooter is ruining the base concept. Giving away your position and/or deceiving the enemy to your whereabouts is kind of at the heart of the game concept - hunting.

[rare hound]

@maiden pelican damn. Gun oil is even more useless than I thought 💀

[maiden pelican]

Yeah, I thought hmm, still seems dirty and took before and after shots

[signal mural]

I posted 'Title: New Bounty Boss> Pestilence's Steed' to Ideas/Suggestions and would be interested in the Community's Critique on it. I don't know how to hyperlink the post here via the phone app but if you read it feel free to @ reply me for a discussion. I'm kind of on the fence about an "outdoor" type of Bounty Boss but thought I'd take a pass at it.

[steel shoal]

ALMOST 50

[tribal wyvern]

One could say if you own a pc with access to the internet. First instinct is to google.
Google the error, theres bound to be one other person out there with the same issue, Diiba here for example.
If i get an issue i always google it. Theres 0 reason not to.

If it boils down to Crytek, then it's their fault.
Some issues can be difficult to troubleshoot like fps drops.
But when u get the error name in ur face, just type it in to google.

[warm zephyr]

it says cryengine fatal error. I assumed it was some fuck up at their side

it gets way more complicated when you’re sharing the pc with family. when i launch a game and play it I expect it to not require additional fiddling. Here to enjoy the game not to be a technician

[tribal wyvern]

You signed up to be a technician when you bought a pc. Unfortunately.

Same when you buy a car unless you're filthy rich to pay ppl everytime

[warm zephyr]

fair. i’m sorry for the trouble caused for everyone

been a stressful few months and my favourite game is going down the shitter

[queen jungle]

@fair rover Extracting and surviving (ideally with the bounty) is the goal of the game. IMO it's on the team in pursuit to catch up and prevent the extraction, if they fail they should reflect and see what they can do better next time.

[unborn smelt]

@fair rover Where's the fun in having to wait for every last sniper because they can just take potshots at you and stop you from extracting that way.

Rn the situation is pretty clear - if you let them get all the way to extraction - you get one last chance at catching em but its risky, get into the extraction zone yourself.

[frosty garnet]

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[queen jungle]

@willow gulch Please keep #game-ideas for feature suggestions and report any bugs or issues you encounter to #bug-reports-pc

[willow gulch]

Reconnection doesn't work or is VERY, VERY problematic.
I lost internet connection for 1 second.. and I waited for the reconnection timer in Hunt but it counted down all 30 seconds without me reconnecting.

Then when I tried to reconnect, I was stuck in the load screen over 5 minutes - so I had to restart the game.

After restarting the game and I try to reconnect, this time I atleast gets into the game, but then there is no walls, no objects or anything. I couldn't walk either!

So I try to wait for it to load in more, but nothing happens... then I had to restart the game AGAIN and then it worked.

And this has happened many, many times.
Essentially I only lost internet connection for a second and then all of this occured.
And as said, its not the first time and probably not the last.

Would appreciate the reconnect to get fixed.. sucks to lose a maxed out hunter for something minor (what should be a minor thing) like this

[karmic ivy]

@queen jungle do you mean when the game loads?

[fierce ivy]

I would very much like to see the lee navy added to the game as a special ammo rifle

[burnt mulch]

@stuck sigil repost your idea, the bot reacts broke

[thorny ivy]

Should i do that about my club post too?

Cuz notced the reacts disapeared

[dusty otter]

2.59 kda prestige 28 "3 star" chillin in 2.5 star lobbies, if that's not the definition of griefing idk what is...

[sick anvil]

Skill based match making is not determined by KDA or by Prestige .
MMR rating is taken from chess elo system

How many times was the alofs suggested ?

in the last month ?

in total it has to be way more

i recall that thing being posted since 2020 like every couple of days

and a ton of them being deleted because they just posted a video

[thorny ivy]

Is havnt seen any other posts for it

Doesnt meant i cant provide my own take own it either way

Actually looks like i gave more on it then anyone else at least i offered it as a varient to an existing gun rather then a whole new one like you said most just seem to post a video

Or went alofs when

Cuz i mean an alof really is just a modification and not a specific gun

I will at least give you that i see your viewpoint

[sick anvil]

2 lines of text saying "pretty much this should gun variant see details on video "
#game-ideas message this post alone summarized everything and is by far the most effort put in that McGaiverer shotgun reloader

[thorny ivy]

Well my bad that didnt pop up in mu search when i typed it in

[sick anvil]

search work best if you specify channel then specify search term
in: suggestions-ideas Alofs

[thorny ivy]

Although i personally would keep it as the default romero the 4shot plus one in the chamber but does have a lengthy reload on the 4 barrel chamber and maybe cut down the accuracy a littly maybe

And maybe you cant easily stop the reload animation compared to other shotguns

Man lol i moslty wanted some idea feedback on the monkeytail lol

[sick anvil]

Ill research the rifle after i am back from the gym

And ping you

For the Alofs i would say to make the suggestion a fresh take .
Edit it and add your thoughts
Add in ideas how it would slot in the whole shotgun line up
What would be the draw backs
Exceptions like for example it can not handle slugs because of the welds to the barrel

[thorny ivy]

Perhaps a skin for the springfeild?

Well its not meant to invaildate the others im still kinda learning and unlocking weapon in game atm so havnt really tried all the shotguns yet

For comparison

[dusty otter]

@sick anvil thanks for replying, but I think that's a giant load of bullshit. MMR is heavily influenced by kills. I got killed by someone that tanks their mmr in quickplay. I wish they would move quickplay mmr into its own bracket.

[thorny ivy]

Well thats also why im trying to think of some gimmicks that make it a valid alt starter weapon besides the springfeild maybe have it reload slight faster or gets access to more special ammo at the cost of some dmg

Gotta still get familar enough with the game some more to think of better state comparisons

Have maybe have it bit more all rounder compared to the springfeild

It was a popular frontier weapon so lore wise I could see us getting access to alotta spares

[sick anvil]

While i agree on QP should not be taken in consideration for BH MMR
Prestige does not require any kills all it takes is banish bosses and extract . or you can prestige purely of QP
And KDA ultimately is a cumulative number while you are bellow 500 deaths its fairly easy to get a high KDA with a streak of luck or choosing a play style that is securing high amount of kills and putting you at minimal risk .
I have seen people with 3+KDA play like absolute potato and i seen people with 0.8KDA playing better than any one else

[sick anvil]

A more objective way to look at KDA is look at the hours spent in game number of kills and assists and deaths
lets take 3 players who all play the same amount of hours example 1000
1st 3KDA 900 kills and 300 death
2nd 1KDA 2000 kills 1999 deaths
3rd 0.8KDA 3000kills 3750deaths
Who is in your opinion the better player 1st 2nd 3rd ?

[dense fjord]

But kd doesn’t matter so idek

You really can’t have expectations

They might be a mad lad Smurf or just a super careful player that will run away from any fight they’re not at an advantage in

Or just a generally good new hunt player with fps experience that translates well.

So they might be ignorant about some game mechanics still or completely knowledgeable

KD truly tells you nothing about why their kd is what it is

No matter how high or low the numbers it’s based off are

[plush ledge]

1st is the worst player of them , he's not even able to get one kill per hour and with that little deaths he's playing super passive . This guy plays sniper only from range and is even really bad at it . I would say 2nd is the best of those 3 but I wouldn't call him a good player tho

[dense fjord]

I missed that part lol

Yeah I wouldn’t expect much from any of them but 2nd is the best of the 3

[dense fjord]

1 is afraid of testing themself in an actual fight and only engages with the utmost advantages.
2 is a very average player that might go a little slower than most but still dies a fair bit regardless
3rd is someone who does not care about surviving or killing enemies efficiently at all and generally just runs into anything, gets spotted first, gives away team positioning, etc, but lacks the aim/combat effectiveness to makeup for their careless play style.

That’s my impression lol

[keen bolt]

It does give a general idea there but yeah 3rd player probably had the most experience but as negative K/D does leave something to be desired

2nd is probably best one

And 1st player are most likely a camper

K/D per hour does matter if we're looking into good player

[dense fjord]

If we’re looking at bounty hunt kd it should be associated with time spent in bounty hunt matches where the clock was ticking while your in match.

[dense fjord]

Someone might play 1k hours of hunt showdown and maybe they’re a crazy person that’s spent a lot of that running quick play. Even sitting in the menu runs up your hours doesn’t it? Like if they leave the game running to come back to while doing stuff irl too.

[keen bolt]

Xd

Yeah should made that k/d per play hour

[fluid locust]

I mean they added leaderboards because the community begged for it basically before lol

[plush ledge]

most of the time one match is enough to see if you want to dodge the guy or not but when the guy rocks his 0.6 kda I know for sure I don't need this match to find out that I want to dodge him

I told you Takyon , you ended up on a decent number but that's quite low for "4k mmr easily done with one evening of sniping " ^^

I said 3500 is almost the max you can have without using glitches or cheats , you told me that you would easily make to 4000 and above

[frosty garnet]

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[azure dune]

@timber radish So the solution to camping, is to enable bounty teams to camp in a map corner/edge, of their choice and force teams to come to them?

[sick anvil]

That proves my point looking solely at the number of KDA and MMR rating that are completely unrelated does not give any context of how good or bad the player is even adding in hours with out greater detail wont tell you nothing

[dense fjord]

Yeah I agree

[azure dune]

People will "bend" stats to make whatever excuse they want

Arguing it is not valid to do so, doesn't really change that

[sick anvil]

While it will not change ones own opinion due to lack of understanding . it leaves a message to others who might stumble upon it

specially since you will hear a ton of people state oh i dodge any one with less than X hours or less than X kills or less than X KDA

if you chose not to play with a player because of their stats shame on you

[warm zephyr]

@neat spoke i wouldn’t call the summons system great in anyway

if anything it just paywall you behind another 25bbs

[azure dune]

I think the summons is great, instead of having 1 weekly and 1 daily, which amy be awful, you get 9 options.

[dense fjord]

I mostly just carry people and finish games with them no matter how bad or unhelpful they are but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t dodge someone based on a combination of their sub 1 kd and horrible loadout.

[warm zephyr]

erm, no. it’s way grindier and way less intuitive

[dense fjord]

If KD got removed I think it might be a nice change

[azure dune]

This is a competitive game

People like their stats

[dense fjord]

Is it?

It’s trying to be

But failing lol

[azure dune]

You deadass telling me

[warm zephyr]

i mean, if you play in asia and encountercheaters/kd farmers on a daily basis…

[azure dune]

that you don't compete against other teams

in game?

[dense fjord]

Do you have to?

[azure dune]

Is that actually what you are telling me?

[warm zephyr]

compete against cheaters lmao

[dense fjord]

Or can I just play sniper elite all match every game forever and rack up kd

[warm zephyr]

they literally turn it on when they losing

[dense fjord]

Compete is a little vague

[sick anvil]

Not ultumatively removed just not include it in public

[azure dune]

You are competing against other hunters

[dense fjord]

Compete for bounty?

[sick anvil]

Like looking at profiles and this no KD just your own stats show it

[azure dune]

It's a competitive game, that's what makes it PvP

[sick anvil]

interesting definition

Diharea is a competetive game then too you are competing against your self trying to beat any one to the shitter else you lose

[dense fjord]

lol

Hunt showdown tries to be a competitive game but it isn’t

Hardcore? Kind of

[azure dune]

The definition of competitive is you are competing against someone else or another team

[warm zephyr]

it’s an extraction shooter

[azure dune]

Definition of competing
: in a state of rivalry or competition (as for position, profit, or a prize)

[warm zephyr]

it’s not competitive like csgo or valo or anything

[azure dune]

I am not arguing about Esports

[sick anvil]

Hmm so diharea and being super bloated every move wants to make you move double the danger half the reward

[warm zephyr]

it’s just a pvp game

[azure dune]

You are competing with other players for kills/bounties this is objective

this is competitive

the default match making mode is mmr based

[warm zephyr]

agree to disagree

[dense fjord]

I play it as a pvp game

I don’t think it has much value otherwise as is

[crystal plume]

The game is competitive and that's even stated on the steam store page so it's safe to say they treat it as one no matter what your personal definition for it is, but I still agree that removing KD would be more beneficial

[azure dune]

People like seeing themselves relative to others in a competitive setting, that's what stats do/enable.

[dense fjord]

But hunt showdown doesn’t really play that way does it

[azure dune]

dude... what is pvp, but competition against someone else?

[plush ledge]

But how would you drop then those slight hints how good your KD is Diiba ? If nobody can check if it's true ?

[crystal plume]

What?

[azure dune]

So the argument for removing stats is to remove stigma caused by stats

Wouldn't this cause a ban the box feedback loop, where such stigma will be drawn from other factors?

[plush ledge]

Normally every time you say "remove KD " you add a "and I say this while having a good/high KD " I was surprised you didn't this time

[azure dune]

I can easily image playtime being one of those

[crystal plume]

My argument for removing KD is making people play normally instead of people playing for stats too much and negatively impacting others by doing so, such as people who sit in a boss lair until time runs out or plays long range solo sniper and extracts after one kill or uses some exploit to not get a death stat

[crystal plume]

I simply say it usually before anyone even thinks that my point is not valid under the impression that I want such a change because of my own low stats, not sure what your point is

[dense fjord]

Or person sitting in a corner with crossbow but maybe they’re doing it for more than just kd too

[crystal plume]

I mean yeah that is valid and expected

I'm mostly talking about the extremes

[dense fjord]

Yep

[crystal plume]

Which sadly are not that uncommon at least from my experience

The higher you go the more you see people desperate to go even higher

[azure dune]

That's an interesting argument, I think that ignores people setting goals for themselves to improve their kda(or out kda their friends),etc and that not all these people camp and I would actually say it's only a small number that camp since I think camping is unappealing to most. The incentive to camp is still there due to hunter perma-death, and making it easier to win.

[crystal plume]

I have had people who literally say in proximity chat that their reasoning for X thing was stats/leaderboards when I questioned it

So perma death might be the reason for some

Unlikely at the higher end of the MMR spectrum though

[radiant river]

camping is very common at 5/6stars and i dont see a reason besides kd. they don't need money

[plush ledge]

maybe I was mistaken all the time then , I really thought you would define yourself only by being good at a video game and being a mod . For me it came across like bragging

[azure dune]

I don't see it too often at 5, 6 stars is definitely a major issue.

I too often see people to afraid to go to 6 star, not because of facing better players but the idea they might be stuck in a sniper siege for 50 minutes.

[crystal plume]

It's quite ironic that you out of all people would try and paint someone as an elitist or such is all I'm gonna say to that

[azure dune]

Also match timer is a bit much, most matches end in 20 minutes, 40 would be plenty as shown during the Crow Flys Event. 60 minutes is just a camp fest game that is no fun to anyone.

[dense fjord]

Peoples goals should be more gameplay related than stat related in my opinion. Pulling off hectic/aggressive plays. Bridging the gap in disadvantage with skill. Clutching against trios by yourself. Promote chad gameplay. I got to 6 star 2.52 kd in bounty hunt trying to just get better at the game straight up skill/aim wise. Albeit I had a lot more time to play than the average person at the time and lots of previous fps experience. I still feel like the KD I got at that time was much lower than what I could have if I played carefully/defensively and feel a little punished for it. When others can get higher kd playing way softer/more passive.

[crystal plume]

I'd go for 45-50 minutes just in case, I'm fine with shaving off 10-15 minutes but I'd not go any closer to 30 minutes

[dense fjord]

45 would probably be nice

I’ve seen people say dynamic timer

[azure dune]

I agree high kda is a mark of passive players(who imo aren't actually good players but rather good at one specific playstyle like sniping).

[dense fjord]

Like 15 minutes from boss banish

[azure dune]

I'm not sure about 15 minutes from boss banish, some boss fights can be very hectic

[dense fjord]

True

I had a game that was like 50 minutes recently

Kept rotating with long ammo rats lol

[azure dune]

That would also mean, that for situations where people spawn on boss, and someone else spawns opposite. They should just extract, even if other team delays bounty they would need to end the fight in 5 minutes or less and then find extraction(assuming most of the timer gets eaten by travel time).

[dense fjord]

People shouldn’t spawn on boss

[sick anvil]

You know people that set a goal to get to a certain KDA will just do adapt the most effective play style to do that which is usually sitting in narnia DE rendering compounds and wall bang headshots all day .
While if you would set your self a a goal of today i want to get iE 15 kills in my session you get a person that will take more risks

[dense fjord]

Look at leaderboard and see what stats does to people

Lol

Kd farming accounts

[azure dune]

I think the leaderboard is an extreme example

[sick anvil]

that is the only competetive E peen measuring tool in the whole game

[dense fjord]

I’m gonna make a Smurf account with 1k kd

I sit in bush whole game and take 1 perfect shot then kill myself

So lame

[sick anvil]

And you take off KDA off the leaderboards keep kills deaths banishes and kill streaks

[crystal plume]

I already have the data that proves removing KD is beneficial

[dense fjord]

I believe it

[crystal plume]

And it's from 2020

[sick anvil]

12/10

[dense fjord]

We agree Diiba

On this at least

[sick anvil]

Diba as prime minister of FUN

[azure dune]

I think making stab-able chickens will greatly increase fun

[dense fjord]

People would be more prone to try to pull off epic plays

[sick anvil]

they were killable by mele at one point

[dense fjord]

Absolute gamer moments

[sick anvil]

and they just kept respawning

[dense fjord]

“I am at a huge disadvantage with the odds stacked against me? Good.”

[sick anvil]

My ultimate Bucket list item is shooting a falling red gate on top of some one and have them killed by the gate

[dense fjord]

That’s a good one

[azure dune]

mine is to trap them with the cage, and hive bombs

[dense fjord]

I seen someone die to a diagonal lift

Anything is possible

[azure dune]

am... am... am I the bad guy?

[sick anvil]

I did

i desynced of that lift in Fort and instead of fall damage 150 dmg from the elevator

[dense fjord]

Lol

[sick anvil]

My favorite asist so far was shooting some with a sparks who was crouching near water they panickeed stepped in a noodle and died to the noodle

second was shooting some one to have them run in to the
stab and die

[vague patio]

danger ramen

[sick anvil]

I wonder what would be on the death screen if some one would be next to a red barrel but an emulator would be close enough to blow the barrel up

Would be more funny if it would show the sparks emulator and the red barrel

substitute sparks with any gun

[azure dune]

Love Immolators

I wish their were my AI variations beyond the grunt variants

Don't get me wrong, grunt variants are great. Just had a pistol grunt smack a teammate while stalking an enemy team.

[sick anvil]

I would say emulator need anger management group they tend to blow up to often

[vague patio]

immos who sorted their issues out. approach the player casually and try to talk them out of the violence

that will stop the bayou sweat

[unreal laurel]

I mean, they're hinted at to be the most "Aware" of their condition and their condition just happens to be permanently on fire so... It can make sense they're a little upset

[sick anvil]

nah they just would sit in lower desalle drinking whisky

[vague patio]

"drugs are bad, your body is a temple"

running is good

[sick anvil]

its 1895 whisky was not yet declared a drug

[azure dune]

and coca-cola had coke in it

no wonder why hunters are always injecting stuff

[sick anvil]

hmm maybe healing shots are just IV coca cola

and stans are Fanta

[unreal laurel]

Isn't the big thing collecting clues

[azure dune]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

[unreal laurel]

It's supposed to be like

Addictive

[vague patio]

fuck it, make em smoke weed, let hunter cough around them and call em blazers

i meant hemp

for rugs

[unreal laurel]

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if canonically Hunters are pretty much just permanently whacked out on stuff

[sick anvil]

Just imagine walking in to the saloon in lower desale and emulators playing poker hives dancing can can

[vague patio]

at least the sculptor is having fun

[unreal laurel]

He can make any monsters he wants and none of em have tits what is he gay smh

[sick anvil]

oof

[unreal laurel]

Although I don't think any of the bounty targets have a deliberate gender

Maybe Scrapbeak?

[vague patio]

corruption transcends gender

[unreal laurel]

Agreed

[vague patio]

scrappeak and grunts are the closest to humans

meatheads and butcher are actually infants

vincent is knock off spider man

and spider is some people being intimate

[unreal laurel]

Wait I thought Butcher was a dude who got too obsessed with research

[vague patio]

no

[unreal laurel]

I know meatheads are born and eat their way out of their moms

[vague patio]

its a meathead carcasses someone tried to preserve wuth wax and stuff

[unreal laurel]

Ah

[rigid basalt]

@fair oyster the matchmaking itsself works already with numbers the stars are just a visualisation

[little carbon]

^to iterate on that. Your MMR value is an integer value between 0 and 5000. The MMR curve shows what stars are displayed at what MMR rating. Internally the stars are not used at all, the matchmaking only uses the raw number, or, to be more precise, the average of your teams number.
The stars just exist on your client. That's also why a lot of the why is x Star Player in the same lobby as me post are just examples of matchmaking working properly

[steady prism]

@late wind so vey not true... dualies struggle against everything you ve listed

they are only decent against uncovered targets at mid-range (20-40m) and thats exactly what devs want them to be good at

you can also get some stronger bois to destroy people hiding in a shack or behind some other weak obstacle but thats where their dominance ends...

everything else you ve listed is much more effective up close and since you have severely reduced accuracy, without being able to go ADS, you are at severe disadvantage against everything thats farther than 40m, even standart SA revolvers

Dualies had been nerfed already so please stop requesting another nerf for them... just because you dont fancy a certain gamestyle doesnt mean it should be removed from the game or nerfed to the ground

[vague patio]

more than double firerate could be a trait, gradual sway if its less immediate

[steady prism]

thats exactly what i said in last sentence...

[vague patio]

but i dont think that "fixes" dual wield

[steady prism]

nothing fixes dual wield, bcs dual wield is fine

reason why you see it everywhere is because its fun to play and it doesnt require much skill unlike harder but better options

dualies are my goto cheap equip... when i take free hunter... take some random contraband revolvers, stuck a nagant precision to it and go cheap

its much worse than any other loadout but its fun and it can be destructive if used properly

not really... if you are precise shooter it shouldnt be a problem to you to take out dude running dualies

yes but thats basically the only reason why it works...

[vague patio]

the problem with dual wield is it feels like shit, cause they are inherently luck based. but there is no nerf that preserves how dualies function rn, id guess

[steady prism]

you lay down hail of fire trusting the aimpunch to take care of you

if you fight against dualies you simply disengage if you dont have cover and if you do just bunker down and keep calm

[steady prism]

i dunno...to me it feels ok

[unborn smelt]

No, maybe sometimes yes

[steady prism]

you cant just blast on everything you see

[unborn smelt]

But so does any luck

[steady prism]

you need to get to the correct position and them try to burst down your target... and if you fail you reposition yourself and try again

would that be okay with a winchester?

you do realise you still need to hit him...

like

[unborn smelt]

Luck - no reason it shouldnt be okay if dualies dont get access to ADS

[steady prism]

you still need to aim in the right direction and hope that the bullet will fly straight

that was extremely nice shot and im proud of this guy

he even lead the shot

hows this different from firing ADS?

he took his time... aimed properly and fired a great shot

yes and it worked out

now...

im not saaying that all people play like this

this wwas a prime specimen of intelligent dualie user

yes... most of them

i honestly think accuracy is not the issue... to me its speed of thumbing the actual revolvers

[vague patio]

i think rn its just firerate

[steady prism]

no.. because if you do that you are left with nothing

thats like taking long ammo from uppercut

if you reduce accuracy... you will severely decrease UX of people who run them

noone will like more RNG in their shots

its not for close range Takyon

[half stag]

Well too bad, cuz crytek wants it to be a mid range option as well

[steady prism]

ive already said this

its actually bad for close range

but then its pointless

look... its too slow for CQB... you still need to hit 2-3 rounds to kill... chances of headshot up close in CQB chaos are slim

[half stag]

I do agree that firerate needs to be toned down on dualies, but another thing that isn't mentioned often which is another problem, is how stupid the aim punch system is rn, where if you get stubbed in the toe by a single shotgun pellet, your aim shoots straight up into the sky

[steady prism]

you either get maced by fanning that unleashes whole 6 round into you whil you manage 2... shotgun will rip you to pieces with a slug and knife will result in a trade at best

[steady prism]

exactly

[vague patio]

fanning got also nerfed

[steady prism]

if dualies got a thumbing speed nerf... they could still easily 2 tap targets but they will be much slower for actual spamming...

[half stag]

If they fixed the aim punch and reduced the fire rate, I guarantee you dualies would not feel as bullshit as it does rn

[vague patio]

its legit completly useless now

[steady prism]

ye but its still much better at point blank range

especially dedicated fanning revolvers like colt navy or schoffield

[half stag]

Cuz at least you can shoot back at them without them just aim punching you to death

[steady prism]

it is

its unusable on more than 10m

compact revolvers fail to 2 tap if you dont hit chest

if you run schoffields thats fine i guess

[vague patio]

no

new army and conversion can 2 tap on lower body

[steady prism]

ye but not if you hit arm once

ant that will happen if a dude with charge knife in front of his face runs at you

fanning is basically a gimmick... its a tool to make your cheap SA a bit more deadly up close...

well... wee are not discussing now... we re just throwing our POVs... which i think is not productive...

so lets get back to the core of problem

dualies are intended as mid-range ambush weapons and they are OK in this role...

they dont need nerf rn... instead it would be better to introduce something similar that will wwin the hearts of playerbase so their usage drops

its not entirely on luck

[unborn smelt]

Have to disagree here - fanning is very powerful

[steady prism]

you can get smaccd by RNG that just says no thats not a hit

[unborn smelt]

Not nrcessarily as your main weapon to depend upon

[steady prism]

yes but it requires a lot of skill and its still only a one slot weapon...

[unborn smelt]

But it makes a long range loadout very very versatile

[unborn smelt]

Not really

[steady prism]

again... i agree that sometimes this happens

[half stag]

Also big thing with dualies is that the first shot is guaranteed to hit in the center of the crosshair, after that is when bloom starts to take effect if you spam (which is why you get those cases where you get one tapped from the first shot of a dual pair)

[steady prism]

but that doesnt mean it needs nerf

[unborn smelt]

The skill part - it's literally full auto hipfire

Change okay - nerf no.

[steady prism]

you need to know when to stop blasting cause you only have about 6 rounds

you can ofc take chain but thats currently the most worthless weapon in the game so i wouldnt recommend

[unborn smelt]

Want RNG fependancy gone - sure. But then give it reliability instead

[prime ibex]

Think pairs are pretty ok rn lol

[unborn smelt]

Yes but its still a 6 round 2 shot full auto blast

It can easily save your ass against shotguns or melee

[steady prism]

im not saying its useless... im saying its a gimmick... there are better tools for CQB

[steady prism]

yes it CAN

[unborn smelt]

Which you couldnt without it

[unborn smelt]

Sure there are - its not strong for dominating Cqc its strong because you can make every loadout cqc competetive with it

[steady prism]

that

tho i ve learned not to count on it...

its good to have... effective most of the time

but CQB is harsh and chaotic so every CQB weapon should be taken with a pinch of salt

it can fail you when you need it most... be it shotgun or fanning

[prime ibex]

It's a frickin grim western with dark voodoo. It's whatever the devs desire it to be inclusive and exclusive.

It ain't.

[unborn smelt]

If it is so is long ammo

[prime ibex]

Lol

[unborn smelt]

But it works every time unlike dualies which can and will fuck up even if you aim well

[prime ibex]

Yup

[steady prism]

look takyon... rangorok is completely right

RNG on dualies is disadvantage not an advantage

[steel shoal]

Almost 60

[unborn smelt]

I wouldnt be against a dualie change ngl

But no nerf

That i can agree with

[prime ibex]

I feel indifferent of going with and against pairs.

[unborn smelt]

At least from a competetive / skill centric field of view

[steel shoal]

Fanning perk for dual cadwell conversion chain pistol when

I wanna go BRRRRR

[prime ibex]

I see it as they got their shots off, and so on if i did the same. Thats just it and move on.

[steel shoal]

That would be the opposite of dual wielding

Apt in terms of what?

Yeah I suppose, but you’re describing a completely different mechanic now

[half stag]

I'd be fine if they did that as the current "ads" that we have

And still keep the dual wielding function for the hipfire

[steady prism]

i wouldnt mind them adding mechanic for better ADS

[steel shoal]

That sounds interesting

[steady prism]

but they would definitely have to slow down thumbing if they do

[steel shoal]

dual fire at the hip, aim down for ADS

[steady prism]

sounds ok to me

[steel shoal]

You’re giving a personal opinion as if that’s objective fact

By insisting on a claim that’s purely subjective

It’d be different if you described it as “dual wielding doesn’t feel right to me”

Well I can, I think it’s a perfectly fine mechanic that doesn’t need changing to fit in. A lot of the player base would agree too

[half stag]

As already seen in the mass graveyard of downvoted af suggested dualie reworks

[steel shoal]

The ADS idea sounds interesting in concept, but I think it risks making dual wielding a straight up upgrade to single pistols

Rather than the potent side-grade that it currently is

[unborn smelt]

I mean yes they should be

They cost 2 slots and double the money

[half stag]

Someone suggested that'd it could be slower to rotate between, artificially reducing rof and apply the quick swap sway every time you rotate to another side

[unborn smelt]

I did a long ish time ago

[steel shoal]

I meant in terms of gameplay potency, it would remove the viability of single pistols, especially in an inflated economy such as showdown

[unborn smelt]

Not sure if i ever made it a suggestion tho

[unborn smelt]

It wouldnt

[half stag]

^

[steel shoal]

If dual wielding is simply everything single wielding does and more, I think it’d be intrusive for the viability of single wielding

[unborn smelt]

You dont always have a medium slot available

[steel shoal]

True, but it just makes quartermaster more of a must-buy than it already is in that case

[steady prism]

doesnt have to be really

[unborn smelt]

Just like you dont always have perks for fanning

[steel shoal]

But that’s just how I see it

[steady prism]

you could make ADS slower than hipfire

[unborn smelt]

Fanning is also essentially a pure upgrade

[steel shoal]

I mean that much is obvious

[steel shoal]

True, but it also isn’t as all-encompassing as a trait like quartermaster is

[steady prism]

so you still have hipfiring beast and then you could try to aim on range with disadvantage

just not RNG disadvantage but DPS disadvantage

[unborn smelt]

Tbh i wouldnt make it a hipfore beast

[steady prism]

and dont forget you a) take 2 guns instead of one so twice the amount of monni
b) you are wwasting two slots instead of one

[unborn smelt]

I'd make it so it can hipfire okay in a pinch but should ADS

[steady prism]

so its SHOULD be better than single SA

[steel shoal]

Maybe you’re shakier when you’re aiming with duelies? That’d be a reasonable change to it that I would accept being enough if a drawback to consider for when trying to select a loadout

[steady prism]

you know what i meant... basically hipfire stays the same as it is

[steady prism]

thats plausible imho

you do hold the gun in your wrong hand after all

[steel shoal]

It’d also make sense, since you’re holding the other gun with the other hand while aiming and firing, adding an imbalance in weight

[rigid basalt]

my thought was leaving dualies as is but making them require a perk so without a perk u still can have time on the hunter but its basically 2 individual weapons instead of dualwielding them when equiping 2 pistols on a medium-slot (would have to be limited to not beeing able to have 2x 2 pistols on one hunter without the dualwielding perk

[steel shoal]

Lmao hunters now have a left-handed/right-handed trait you need to take into account for

[steady prism]

😄

[unborn smelt]

But why not just take fanning then

[steel shoal]

I don’t think that’s possible straight up from a UI perspective

[steady prism]

then there is ambidextrous perk 🤔

[steel shoal]

You would need the perk and that perk specifically unlocks a brand new button in the loadout menu?

[unborn smelt]

Which retains your ADS and doesnt need 2 slots and double the money

[steady prism]

exactly... dualies are great because they dont need a perk and are readily available

[steel shoal]

Well you get the obvious bonus of double the magazine capacity

And depending on the pistols you run, double the money costs hardly anything

[steady prism]

look... dualies already have A LOT of disadvantages

[steel shoal]

Especially when there’s plenty of cash to go around in this inflated economy

[unborn smelt]

Its still double the mobey and double the slots for loosing all reliability

A pretty bad tradeoff

[steel shoal]

Losing all reliability…?

[steady prism]

exactly... them using 2 slots is a big drawback

[unborn smelt]

You cannot ADS at all with current dualies

Yoz're at the mercy of rng

[steady prism]

and theres not much effective 2 slot ranged options

[steel shoal]

Yeah because that isn’t currently their purpose

[unborn smelt]

And if youre close enough that you get it reliable so is fanning

[steel shoal]

And the change being proposed here is the ability for them to do what single pistols do, which means that single pistols have no real edge against duelies

Other than cost, which is already established to be a poor method of balancing out a weapon

[unborn smelt]

Well they require less loadout space... which is important

[rigid basalt]

i think it is just having to scroll through an additonal gun i dont think there would be an issue

[unborn smelt]

Because that means You can take it without QM

[steel shoal]

But that isn’t relevant once you take QM, which is already a must-take trait in a lot of cases

Making duelies even better will subsequently make QM even better

[unborn smelt]

Its not - mrdium options are mostly rather ineffective

Anf if you have points ypu may aswell take fanning over qm

[rigid basalt]

cause on duallies u dont need to switch weapons cause u are holding both at once with the perk

[unborn smelt]

Save money on the second gun

Get spam for cqc while not loosing ads

[unborn smelt]

You dont for fanning either ?

[steel shoal]

@rigid basalt #game-ideas message
You mean increase reload speed? Or decrease reload time?

Because the current wording suggests that it’s a troll perk with no upsides lol

[rigid basalt]

in terms of having the same amount of bullets as duallies u do have to

[rigid basalt]

reduce means less so less speed means a slower reload

[steel shoal]

So being left handed gives you a slower reload and worse accuracy… what’s the point?

[still moss]

headphones: Have AKG 430.. amazing headsett for Hunt.. just wow.. cost maybe 5bucks.. thinking of buying new.. 1990pro? audio techinca? what do u use and why

[rigid basalt]

actually it is because sometims holding ur gun right handed the gun might block the view on something also it could be a counter to leftpeak advantage

[steel shoal]

Oh lmao

The view model is hardly a problem

Especially when the game actually gives advantage to left peaking

[rigid basalt]

some guns blcok actually a lot of the screen on one side it you think of it and soemtimes that makes holding an angle hard

upsi left right weakness the thing my thought is if you think of the line in which ur gun is pointing when held lefthanded vs when held righthanded in one case ur gun is pointing to the right in the other case to the left

[rigid basalt]

i accidentaly wrote right instead of right up there

@steel shoal do u now understand my thought behind it ?

[steel shoal]

I do, but it’s such non issue to me that brings so many drawbacks to be able to take advantage of the proposed solution

[rigid basalt]

i agree i think it also would be more usefull if bullets acctually went where the gun is pointing at not random direction from the hip

i know its jsut a bad drawfing on a mousepad but i think it gets the point across

@tight monolith good idea but i dont think it will be added as the amount of graphic-renderings and programming would be insane

[tight monolith]

thought about that. but letting the blood faint when a hunter is dead might make it managable

in the end it just and a x;y;z;h(unter) coordinate to be saved per bloodstain.

and you would bind the timeout to the beeing alive state of a hunter

[rigid basalt]

yeah but textures on the ground keep that in mind

would still take a lot of programming

[tight monolith]

does just hover on the ground

we will see 😉

[rigid basalt]

yeah i think they should disapear if the player is too far away from it too idk like

[tight monolith]

I would just rewrite the timeout for the bloodstain object.

[tight monolith]

this would be a lot of work

[rigid basalt]

keep in mind we have mud gras water rocks wood and so on so i think it would still be a lot of work

[tight monolith]

I only tought about flat ground. you dont see bloodstains in gras atm anyway

but should be considered for that change

[rigid basalt]

aktually not it would be pretty simple if player is x distance from xyz coordinate despand texture abc xyz would be the coordinate of the specific bloodstain

[frosty garnet]

@plush vigil, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

Titel: New Game mode: Dual Quickplay
Description: how about transfering the quickplay mechanic to duos and create a 3rd game mode beside solo quickplay and bounty hunt. It is not fully fleshed out but maybe an idea to start from. Would feature a more action focused gameplay compared to bounty hunt with already established, proofen and loved mechanic that you can enjoy with a friend.```

[rigid basalt]

@plush vigil u need to leave an empty line between title and discription

[wind stream]

no, its just the typo in "title"

[plush vigil]

okay thanks

[rigid basalt]

idk why does the bot trigger on a typo ??? i mean Titel = title just german vs english

[frosty garnet]

@still moss, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
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Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
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sometimes i think it wil be fun to have like bounty games where u need to find weapon outside like quickplay.```

[rigid basalt]

welp i think that should be programmed to allow typos but instead require the word description in the post too cause with the 10min cooldown just because of 2 swaped letters is just stupid

[signal mural]

I don't get why people are losing their shit over the Legendary Summons. It is 5BBs people. You can earn more with less time and effort playing with any weapon you choose. I get that it is annoying being offered something you cannot do because it is locked behind a pay wall but the rewards aren't worth the price of admission. It isn't even really an incentive to own the skins.

For me this is the equivalent of old Weeklies like 'Be the Soul Survivor 12x in QP' - forget that... but even there, despite the unlikelihood, the reward of 25BBs was more attractive than> own a paid dlc skin + get way too many kills with it = 5BB (one time payout).

[austere maple]

guys do you how you put the voting emotes on suggestions?

[hidden vapor]

its automatically done by bot

[austere maple]

ah ok thanks

[vague patio]

you can ask a mod via modmail if they can add emotes if the bot failed

[vague patio]

i think its also about it basically blocking one quest and it being """pay to win/predatorymonetization"""

aslong as it stays at that one i dont mind it

[pure quest]

Who cares about summons anyway, they're incredibly boring, lame and not interesting

[vague patio]

enough people to have that system update

[rigid basalt]

yup i agree i think people would cry less if they would add a bb-skin to be used in Alternative to the dlc skin

i think its also more about the points for the weekly and not the 5bb

[hidden vapor]

well if they wouldnt be boring and would give you purpose after 10 prestiges to play the game, it would be interesting system

[pure quest]

Well yes. But now they are so its stupid

If interesting, then x.
If not interesting, then y.

We are in y.

🤷‍♂️

It's just added fluff that gives a sense of content but it doesnt really do or accomplish anything for the game.

I dont mind a bare bones game. Just make sure its bones are in order.
Problem is that if you add stuff, it will then be a "problem" if it's not good. If it wasnt there in the first place, it wouldnt have mattered

[hidden vapor]

yea but saying who cares about them is selfish from you, since people are trying to put ideas here how to "improve them". Some of them are bad some of them are good.

[normal horizon]

"Problem is that if you add stuff, it will then be a "problem" if it's not good. If it wasnt there in the first place, it wouldnt have mattered"

I'm not sure that holds up. when something is not there people want something to be there

[pure quest]

Yes, very selfish indeed. Isnt almost all feedback here selfish. Changes you would like to see yourself. I have plenty ideas, like anyone else.

This is my feedback. I do not care for mmorpg/wow like quests "collect 10 of x, kill 8 of x".
🤨

I'm pretty sure it holds up. Implementing a silly way of silly quests hurts more then not having it.

[normal horizon]

It hurts either way

and with having something implemented and iterated on it can improve

[pure quest]

No, as in its core hunt is an excellent game, and it didnt need any of it

[normal horizon]

not having anything means you also cant make it better

[pure quest]

If done right, sure I guess it works. But how long till it's done right? 😄

[normal horizon]

you, didnt need any of it

the thing is there are more people that play the game that all want something different

[pure quest]

Well let's not pretend 99% of the players care about this and I'm rare one who finds this questing system lame 😅

[normal horizon]

that is why we are asking the community to let us know what they would like as quests

I am not talking only quest system

I am talking about your general statement about not having something being better

either way the quest system will be worked and improved on over time to make it more what people would like with the help of community feedback

[signal mural]

The new Summons system is a good aligory for what's wrong with the in-game incentives. The revised Daily/Weekly Challenges into Summons has made the the rewards value sink heavily based on the player time invested. It feels IMO like an attempt not to reward the average player but to bolster the daily player base not through a solid gameplay loop and great servers but grind incentives.

Mr. Chary, was a nice addition because of it's lotto-like rewards, the lowest threshold could just as well award something more amazing than the daily max threshold. It encourages players to invest more time daily but it is flat over the entire player-basis and still leaves Crytek their BB sale possibility when players cannot make that full time investment.

I like the gameplay loop and like incentives just as much as the next too but the key is not making it feel like a grind that only rewards top-tier players or those with 30hrs+ to game per week.

[hidden vapor]

they finding it lame, but they are posting here feedback to upgrade it

you are just saying its lame and thats all

[pure quest]

Oh like that, I see. Yes, adding new things should be done at times, im all in favor of that. Hunt has added plenty of great things, that got better over time. But these things directly influenced the game play (tools/weapons). These quests dont however.

Worst decision ever made though was explosive ammo/crossbow. Still the biggest issue there is imo.

[pure quest]

I've provided plenty feedback and suggestions over the year(s).

[hidden vapor]

nice, then why you didnt provide something good on these summons ?

like I understand what youve ment, most of people here have selfish ideas like - delete trades, delete this weapon, because mostly its the thing that frustrates them

[pure quest]

i've already left suggestions long time ago about missions

[hidden vapor]

@cloud surge wouldnt add another currency to the game but great idea

[pure quest]

these summons can go in the garbage can as far as i'm concerned.
Instead replace them with real missions, randomized. So every map, you dont know if and which special mission you're going to get.
Like: Ring the bell, and defend against a horde of monsters.
Start the train and protect it against other hunters while zombies follow the sound of the train.
At the end of these mini-events, you'd get a cash/bloodbond/weapon cache so you can get a free crown or mosin or whatever.

This means there is more stuff to do than just the bounty run, what the quests intended anyway afaik.

the 'collect/kill' quest system is famous and now getting infamous after decades of WoW and all kinds of RPGs. They need to be a fun event, not a chore.

I want my quests to be interactive with the game in a way i normally dont. I normally already pick up clues as a go. Why would i care there's a little quest for a Specter as a reward (or something similar), if by just playing the game, by the time I have finished that quest I have made enough money to buy 10 of those already anyway, and I can just find them in a single game lying around.

[signal mural]

Yeah, I really don't get how people can be so selfish. But I also get floored how people can request that the game gets a full overhaul into a different genre.

[pure quest]

explosive crossbow did overhaul it into a different game though

sure, meme on pc, bad on consoles only

i've had plenty where on PC its as bad as on console

[hidden vapor]

yea, exactly. Like I know hunt has some flaws and sometimes it can be frustrating, but I cant imagine the game without shotguns etc.

[hidden vapor]

got killed only by normal crosbow so cant say

[pure quest]

but it does change the "tactical slow paced shooting with cover" into "just shoot in general direction, kill people behind cover like you dont care"

[signal mural]

Explosives bolts are fun but hard to aim as their AoE is actually rather small. They give away your position real quick though.

And you get what 4 per bolt slot?

[rigid basalt]

@cloud surge one issue if a team spawns nexto the boss the other teams have no more chance at getting the tokens also only the banish team recives something so that would not work i think a team that extracts with a bounty should with ur system get atleast one token any way to make it fair

[cloud surge]

I wouldn't say it doesn't work. It's just the gamble of the game. I have also come across teams who spawned on the boss but still sat back to let others do the work. I'm not sure that bounty extracts only should get a Boss token as that devalues the kill+banish. Unless you gave maybe 2 tokens for that and just 1 for the extract.

[pure quest]

yes, but this chagnes quickly when you're ganged up by a duo/trio all using it, each bringing their own ammo box as well.
While there are way to 'avoid' it, as a whole it goes against the beautiful gunplay hunt otherwise offers

[rigid basalt]

@cloud surge do u think its fair if a team kills every one else but has to leave empty handed becausr they spawned scuper lake and the bos was cypres huts? people would just leave as soon as the boss gets banished

[pure quest]

yes, its fair. That's what RNG does for you

if you kill 2 trios and extract, you had the fun game, not the bounty people so be happy 😉

[rigid basalt]

the thing is he is saying ONLY the banish team can get a token so that is not fair if one team kills the whole lobby and doesnt get anything

you would not be happy about that either i think or would you like to fighht for an hour win and get nothinh just someone was lucky

[pure quest]

ehhh, if his goal is to make banishes/extracting worth it more, then this will do this. But not that much as its rare a banish doesnt happen at all.
As for if its fair or not, it's not any different than the current situation when a team has the luck to spawn right on top of a boss and other teams spawn far away.
I dont see an issue with this as i said, its already how the game works now already anyway. Only thing that might be annoying is that people will run away more often with bounties instead of going for the fight.

But, i think runners will be runners and fighters will be fighters

More collectibles and more legendaries though...

[steady prism]

@signal mural definitely... melee is heavily underrated bcs of common trades... lets give it some love

also it would make machete and axe more useful than just picking heavy knife

i see only wins in this

[signal mural]

Yeah I think making it strictly melee-only primary weapons is necessary to avoid abuse.

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[queen jungle]

I don't think the removal of KD will entirely stop cheaters, but it'd be an improvement in any case

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[tribal wyvern]

KD is fine, Leaderboard should just straight up fuck off

That thing is top 50 cheaters

Since MMR is practically useless to determine any kind of skill, kd is the 2nd best thing. Tho i do also judge ppls total kill/death.

2kda at 20kills vs 2kd at 14k kills, is probably not the same skill.

[native lodge]

nah KD is useless and should be done away with

[vale cedar]

no it isn't

i wanna know my k/d

boosts my ego and makes me feel good about myself

[native lodge]

I mean ego boosting is all its good for and thats not really a good thing

[vale cedar]

why not

[radiant river]

Remove other people seeing it at the very least

[native lodge]

people who play for KD to boost their ego are more often playing in the lowest risk highest reward way possible

[vale cedar]

and??

let people play how they want

[native lodge]

or just do away with it as its not contributing to the game in any way thats good, like who actually cares if its gone?

[vale cedar]

i do

[radiant river]

Lol

[native lodge]

and?

[vale cedar]

and?? most people don't see it gone

don't want to see it gone

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[native lodge]

if its encouraging playstyle thats disconnected from the main gameplay loop almost entirely. discourages active plays. it overall takes away from the experience

[native lodge]

provably not true

removing KD board is a very popular idea

[vale cedar]

grim

wait

you mean the leaderboard thing

or your own k/d stats

[native lodge]

leader board atleast

I would be fine if it was gone entirely though

[vale cedar]

i don't really care about leaderboard it already feels out of place in that game

i want to look at my own stats though

[radiant river]

Does anyone care about the leaderboard? Would removing it even do anything

[native lodge]

it would effect the small amount of players that play for KD

[vale cedar]

most player play for k/d i don't get your reasoning

[native lodge]

but like are is anyone going to miss them?

[vale cedar]

do you play to get the boss and extract?

i play to shoot people

[native lodge]

I play for fun pvp

[vale cedar]

yeah same

[native lodge]

people who play for KD do not play fun

[little carbon]

MMR is better to evaluate someones skill than KDA tho. Honestly they should just make it private by design or just remove it completely. Then people would maybe judge others by loadout and playstyle

[native lodge]

a vast majority of the time

[vale cedar]

wdym

the wusses camping extract with sniper rifles?

i think scopes should be removed in general

boring as fuck

[native lodge]

snipers are the vast majority of people play for KD though

[vale cedar]

grim

[little carbon]

Not necessarily. You can play sniper scopes very close range. Their true power lies in cracks

[native lodge]

if people weren't playing to protect KD I think it would promote a more satisfying gameplay loop

even with snipers

[little carbon]

^Agreed

[vale cedar]

tbh i never encounter the peoples camping with snipers super far away

i mean i do

but very rarely

[little carbon]

Honestly, make KDA private and a real nuisance to see, like you have to click through 5 menus or so, and people will mostly stop bothering for it. (Of course except the people who really care, but they will just track it themselves anyways if they would remove it)

[vale cedar]

i think it's fine if it's private yeah

it'd make more sense

[native lodge]

let them track it themselves as far as I care, but the leader board is for sure the worst of it

[vale cedar]

u can show ur friends and flex and shit and keep track of your own skills

[native lodge]

it doesn't reflect skills though

[vale cedar]

yeah it does

[native lodge]

its a empty flex

[vale cedar]

i see somebody with a low k/d i assume they're bad

opposite is true

[native lodge]

I take people out all the time with high kd's

[vale cedar]

means you're good

[tribal wyvern]

Barely.
I don't trust ranks that much either.
Ppl can be complete clueless at 6star.

[little carbon]

I have seen people with a KDA of less than 1 that are really scary to play against.

[native lodge]

my KD is average

[little carbon]

Also seen people with a KDA above 2 that are a complete pushover

[native lodge]

if you aren't willing to die you aren't willing to learn

thats why you can often steam roll high KD players

as its not exactly "earned" a lot of the time

[little carbon]

I agree. I think the only metric to measure someones skill is to play with them. Loadout can give an indicator, but can also be misleading

[vale cedar]

it's still a better indicator of skill than everything else

mmr is worthless

[native lodge]

MMR sucks but not more or less than KD

[vale cedar]

maybe somebody with a high kd is bad

but i doubt many low kd guys perform well

i mean like sub 0,5

[native lodge]

most of those guys are brand new

which you could infer by the other stats

[radiant river]

Kd measures improvement

[native lodge]

its horrible measure of that too tbh

[radiant river]

If it is going up and your play style stayed the same you are improving

You can't compare it between players but for yourself it's helpful

[native lodge]

or you alterd you playstyle over time to be more passive without even noticing it

my highest kill games are hardly my most impressive

honestly I am more impressed when I put down the enemies as efficiently as possible

[latent bobcat]

@celest solstice 2 things
1: what’s wrong with the moon I honestly don’t know
2: in hunt cannon the moon is a living entity that can take a physical humanoid form through its reflections

<@&357256267087085568> it’s been 4
Minutes and my #game-ideas post never got it’s reaction emojis
Pls fix?

Oop now it’s there

Thanks

[crystal plume]

Already added them

In the future you can contact us through ModMail for it 🤠

[latent bobcat]

❤️

[latent bobcat]

Also apologies
Forgot that existed

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[rigid basalt]

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[tulip depot]

8 mns delay ?

fr ?

[rigid basalt]

10 actually and even a typo in title can cause the bot to delete it yup itd dtupid

[tulip depot]

now i remember why i never suggest ideas

[crystal plume]

The timer is there to stop people from spamming suggestions and not have conversations or such

[tribal wyvern]

@queen jungle
It's called playing with mmr on either a low pop server or during off hours.

[dim heron]

@jolly vessel What do you mean by bring back voice chat? Voice chat hasn't gone anywhere

[jolly vessel]

Oh thank you for the clarification ! Must be a tech problem on my end.

[dim heron]

Double check your settings ^^

sometimes the wrong option is chosen

[zinc solstice]

Everytime my drivers update my mic device resets to the wrong input

[dim heron]

probably because it's removing it then re-adding it so the game is like wtf and picks the next default

[tropic fiber]

it doesnt work for me either, the audio is being recorder, but it's not sent, nor i hear it when other people speak

👍

[celest solstice]

Just makes the night maps terrible to play and is probably why people just bail

[latent bobcat]

I have no problem with them

I love them

[solid violet]

kinda dark ngl

[celest solstice]

The night map itself is fine, could be darker but the stupid moon rays make no sense and random bright ass rays coming through ceilings is just ridiculous

Just creates an unfair advantage being on the opposite side of the rays

[signal mural]

I play whatever is given, even if my loadout is hindered by the time of day or weather.

What has me baffled is axe's lack of range... I have to be inside my victim to get a kill with it now days.

[celest solstice]

This isn't on the player either. That was a spawn point. If another team spawned on the other side then we would of been dead due to bad lighting in the game

Bad creative decision without taking game balance into consideration

[tribal wyvern]

The rng to get things from Mr Chary has to be bugged.
In like 2-3weeks i've gotten 7 loadout slots. Im maxed.

Or is it that big of a %chance to get it?

[celest solstice]

Unfortunately they'll probably never give out the %. I keep getting things like compact springfields and those are worth like 40 hunt dollars 🙄

[half stag]

companies are forced to give them out though if they do business in China (where it is required that games with loot box mechanics must reveal the percentage rate of drops in the loot pool) and since Hunt is available there . . .

[celest solstice]

It's not really a loot box service tho. It's completely free so there may be a loophole

[half stag]

err, there's this screenshot where the last part of the dark tribute system where you can pay to get to the last reward is listed as "country tip restricted" likely due to loot box regulations (this was from a player in Belgium)

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43906306

[prime ibex]

@pulsar canopy Quick correction: Bayonet is either an attached long blade/spike to a firearm. You're referring to an Under Barrel attachment.

[pulsar canopy]

@prime ibex I’m referring to a shotshell at the end of the bayonet

[prime ibex]

Wait... So Lunge Bomb style attachment for firearms?

[floral vapor]

@rigid basalt #game-ideas message

But... why? Why would you have a trait to shoot left handed if it's an objective disadvantage?

[late wind]

With a bunch of these guns being left handed is an objective disadvantage to operate them though.

[floral vapor]

If you wanted to play real life why not just go outside

It's a bad idea from a gameplay perspective, you'd be using trait points to unlock something that is an objective downgrade. Why would anyone ever do that for any reason?

[late wind]

While Louisiana does pretty much still look like this IRL, it is still technically illegal to shoot people.

[zinc solstice]

i dont think theyd do it rn just cause they'd have to make new animations for 99% of the aresenal

[floral vapor]

I feel like if you really care about realism in the game about hunting voodoo monsters and zombies in the bayou with many weapons that definitely aren't portrayed realistically, your priorities might be a little off

[floral vapor]

That's a fair reason, but then again that could be said for just about any suggestion

All suggestions take work, so why bother pointing it out?

[zinc solstice]

well this is significantly more work than just adding a new weapon or hunter

theres a lot of guns in this game

[late wind]

I want the representation though.

[zinc solstice]

its the 1800s

no one gets representation without a fight

[floral vapor]

I don't even care about representation I just like the idea of left handed hunters

[zinc solstice]

you have to fight a crytech dev irl

[floral vapor]

I feel like that might have the opposite of the intended effect even if I won

[late wind]

I'll do it.

[floral vapor]

Can I fight the lead director>

I'd like to fight them

And only them

[zinc solstice]

they'll just nerf you

[late wind]

I'm OP. If I get nerfed it's fair to the devs. I've got an insane reach.

[floral vapor]

Aw fuck

[floral vapor]

6'3 master race

[late wind]

6'5. Left handed. My only drawback is that I'm only like 180 lbs.

[floral vapor]

Holy shit

Man I bet finding a comfortable car was a bitch for you

I couldn't even drive the car my parents wanted to give me because my knees tucked up against the steering wheel with the seat all the way back

[late wind]

I drive an '02 RAV4. It's actually pretty comfy. I just can't have passengers behind me because I have the seat all the way back.

[floral vapor]

Oh that's not so bad, parents tried to get me to drive a 90s ford escort. I put the seat all the way back, was still crumpled up like a piece of paper and my parents just said "Oh, this isn't working"

Driving a Ford Fusion now

@pulsar canopy #game-ideas message

I actually like this idea, it's silly and impractical, can't imagine it getting much use in game, but it's still funny and therefore I like it

[floral vapor]

@last blaze #game-ideas message

Damn bro, that's rough. That gives me "getting killed through 2 brick walls by your own frag bomb shrapnel" vibes

The explosives in this game have strange properties

[lapis haven]

So a good addition to the game would be to have a cross platform friendliest so I don't have to wait 7 years or have the game become bugged finding my ps friend. This is ridiculous, half an hour to either have the game bug out and not let me load in, or an hour just to never find him. Other games less known have utilized a similar system and this game can't figure that out after having access to it for the same amount of time of being out. Sad

[floral vapor]

@lapis haven #troubleshooting #674287346065211432

record some footage and submit a proper report, the staff rarely read this channel, the only one I've ever seen active in it was an artist

You'll be much more likely to get a response or a fix if you submit a report

If your CPU is not strong enough to run something like OBS, you can try Nvidia experience, it can run on AMD cards and prioritizes your GPU for nearly unhindered performance

[lapis haven]

That's the thing, I'm just an Xbox player

[floral vapor]

#583214271991775242 , I believe the most recent generation of Xboxes supports screen capture natively, but capture cards are relatively cheap. Alternatively you could have your buddy record.

Worst comes to worst, you have to record the screen with your phone

[late wind]

Man I really wish that people would just admit they're salty they got clowned on by a naked weirdo instead of trying to act like it was a pay-to-win issue.

Because far harder to see hunters have come out both before and after his release, and nobody is whining about them. So it was never a visibility issue. They were mad they got trolled.

[floral vapor]

What

No people definitely bring up the well camoed hunters aside from cain

[floral vapor]

@steady shard Wym 0 metere frags? You can get killed through thick walls by shrapnel even if you were nowhere near it

[steady shard]

@floral vapor standing ontop of a frag. As in literally ontop of it and still living

[late wind]

And yet nothing ever came of it. It's almost like that outrage was purely performative or something. 🤔

[floral vapor]

No? It just means the devs got around to cain first

[late wind]

And then not only did everyone stop whining about camouflaged hunters, they started playing these hunters more.

Not to mention the devs released hunters far harder to spot than Cain.

[floral vapor]

People downvoted your post because of the condescending tone not because you were wrong

[late wind]

I honestly couldn't care what these people downvote. I've seen what they upvote.

The point is it's telling what people's real motives are. And the Cain issue couldn't be more obvious.

[floral vapor]

Mmk

[hot wolf]

The only reason this shouldn’t occur is because the PC player base would decimate the controller guys. Seriously I’ve seen console hunt gunfights compared to PC hunt gunfights. Two different mistresses entirely. The console players would get destroyed due to fast reaction time from mouse.

It wouldn’t be fun

[floral vapor]

I've seen some people get scary good with controller, but in general I agree

That being said, if you get a gyro controller with a flick-stick you can go toe-to-toe with PC players with practice

Just be careful using flick-sticks because some games don't recognize the input as valid

Never gotten banned for using one but I have been put on probation in Apex, had to contact support and show them my controller setup to get it tidied up

All a flick stick does it turn you in the direction the stick is pointing, so you can rotate by pushing the right stick out to the edges and use gyro to adjust your aim

[hot wolf]

Mhm

But the average console gamer wouldn’t have that

[floral vapor]

Apex lets you opt into mixed or "pure" lobbies, so on PC if you're using a controller you can get thrown in with all console players or mixed lobbies, but if you use a keyboard you can get thrown into mixed lobbies, or all PC lobbies

Granted, that will never stop people from spoofing

Crossplay is optional in most games it's in

[floral vapor]

@half stag What you need explained fam?

I gotchu

[half stag]

they've explicitally said they never want the contraband status to be removed as it would flood the economy with money and, more concerning, could cause people to become further disinterested in the main objective and just leave the moment they get their hands on an avto or something, depriving that lobby of further PvP encounters.

yes, I know you mentioned how that it would be removed only after you play another match but that still won't dissuade people from immediately leaving with their avto and just joining another match and running to the nearest extract once they got bounty

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[floral vapor]

The economy is already really borked, I don't know anyone who has ever struggled to deck themselves out in the most expensive items possible for multiple attempts straight. I can buy the most expensive gear in the game a dozen times over, I would have to be trying to run out of money.

But I do see your concern, Tarkov (the most comparable game out there to Hunt as of present), has something called a "run-through" penalty, where effectively if you just try to extract immediately your items won't gain the "found in raid" status, you have to at the very least travel the map and interact with the game world if not outright kill anyone, a system like that could work.

[half stag]

that I don't disagree lol, economy is already screwed (yet, they still think it's fine and use price as a balance mechanic to this day)

[floral vapor]

I just hate the way contraband (and by extension hunt dollars as a whole) act rn, not enough to spend dolans on, and a kind of annoying system

We just need more useful stuff to spend dolans on

Like removing trait points and cleaning guns for example

At least removing traits, blood bonds should never be tied to gameplay

[half stag]

agreed

[floral vapor]

They say they're going to rework monetization, I'm simultaneously hopeful and terrified

I've seen companies do something similar where they just go all-in on gameplay microtransactions, but we won't know until it gets here

[half stag]

you know another thing they can do is encourage prestiging with Idk, that hunter customization system teased for years (and adding more stuff to spend bucks on besides gear as you said of course)

[half stag]

they just need to give us more stuff to spend on, rather than just increasing blood bond prices while reducing blood bonds gain imo

[floral vapor]

Yeah my trust for Crytek at this point is wearing very thin, and I'm holding out for that fabled rework

It wouldn't shock me if they went in the complete opposite direction and started making the premium currency a bigger mainstay in gameplay elements

Hunt dollars exist in a funky state of just being a metric of your experience. Even if you botch 3-5 hunts, depending on what you brought in it's almost guaranteed to be gotten back with a single successful extraction

Sometimes a little less if you're really going all out, but even then it's not hard to get more or at least break even

[dense fjord]

YES

@floral vapor I like your rending/bleed damage bomb lance javelin idea except I don’t think the reel in thing would ever be taken seriously when most other projectiles like it can just be picked up from where they stick into/land

[frigid folio]

Even if they just make it so that the run through contraband guns still can't be sold it would be fine, I just don't want all these contraband items in my inventory that force a popup every time I bring another one out 🤣 or the ability to make scoped guns noncontraband so the scope isn't cracked

[floral vapor]

shrug it's one small detail of a larger suggestion

I just want a massive fuck-off harpoon to carve people's innards out with in a single shot

[dense fjord]

People get hung up on the smallest details so I’m just saying but I did upvote it already

Yeah I’d like some different ammo for the lance too

[floral vapor]

Personally I would love to have a rope harpoon that you can snap the line on if you wish and load normally afterwards

[dense fjord]

The javelin bomb thing is cool but feels bad that it’s affected by bulwark and also pretty loud.

[floral vapor]

Bulwark is definitely a soft counter to it, bulwark straight up necessary trait

Explosives are so insanely dangerous that if you're not running it you're a fool

[dense fjord]

A heavy rending/ bleed one sounds fun, and maybe even the same but with poison.

[floral vapor]

I've been killed through two solid brick walls by my own frag bomb before

Explosives just kind of ignore structures

[dense fjord]

Bulwark is so cheap and adding survivability I always take it.

[floral vapor]

There's no good reason not to, honestly. It goes well with every build

[dense fjord]

Sometimes yeah

It’s weird

frag bomb shrapnel has some weirdness to it

The penetration

[unborn smelt]

Most grenades that are used arent affected by bulwark - then it just blocks a slot

Imo thats a good reason for not taking it

[dense fjord]

Frag bombs shrapnel isn’t affected

[dense fjord]

But any damage you take from an explosive like the dynamite variants should be

Explosive barrels and crossbows

Avoid ohk from bomblance javeline

It’s lots of little things that add up and make it worth 2 points in my opinion

[unborn smelt]

Too bad i almost never encounter dynamites because frags are so much better

[dense fjord]

Yeah frags are better in general in my opinion

But bundles and big bundles have surprising blast radius

And will kill you through just about anything

[floral vapor]

I respect your opinion but I've been saved by bully enough times that I can't imagine not running it

[unborn smelt]

Yeas the same / slightly smaller than a frag...

[floral vapor]

I don't generally stand on top of dynamite, but particularly for cooked or just being in a bad position it can save your life

Sometimes you're not in a position to get completely clear of the blast radius

[unborn smelt]

Sure it can

[dense fjord]

They both have their use cases

A bundle or big bundle will kill you some places frag shrapnel won’t reach you

And frag shrapnel will hit you with heavy bleed at range through some cover types a bundle/big bundle wouldn’t reach you

[robust crater]

is hunt down? I can't get in

[floral vapor]

Servers are up in US east, not sure about elsewhere

[unborn smelt]

I personally just found it to be a waste of time / points over traits that help more frewuent

[robust crater]

im in us east

[dense fjord]

I’m pretty sure the exact numbers are on hunt showdown wiki rn lol

[floral vapor]

Maybe it's your NAT type or just having bad service tonight?

[robust crater]

what is NAT type?

[unborn smelt]

Yes they handle wrapping around corners diffrently

[floral vapor]

That's fair enough, different strokes for different folks

[unborn smelt]

Blast radius is 10m on big and frag

[floral vapor]

It's how your router determines what communications it should send and allow through

If you can access your router's settings through a website or program on your PC, or even on the device itself if it's one of those new fangled routers city dwellers have access to, you can set your NAT type to Open instead of Strict or Moderate

[dense fjord]

I have my own trait upgrade path I take that depends on weapon choice too but I’ll always fit bulwark in atleast towards the end or if I’ve got 2 left and bought all the other good stuff I can while leveling, I pretty much know I can afford whatever else I really want after 1 more game

[unborn smelt]

Hey if you like it go for it...

I personally take stuff like gatorlegs or a combi of two 1 point traits that fit the loadout instead

[floral vapor]

Gatorlegs is my favorite perk hands down

Being able to move quietly across water is huge, and moving faster is even huger-er

Man I hope this isn't one of those discords that goes ballistic if you get the semantic title of a mechanic confused with another common synonym

Multiple people are typing

[unreal laurel]

Random thought but it's interesting how CS having mirrored guns due to the main devs being left handed ended up influencing a ton of games

Having a hand swap option would be nice though

I know a lot of competitive shooter players are used to left hand models specifically because of 1.6

[floral vapor]

I know some people used to have a swap viewmodel bind in team fortress to shoot rockets around corners better

[unreal laurel]

See I don't think it should have actual gameplay function in a first person game tbf

But I think it'd be a nice QoL thing

[floral vapor]

Well that's just source code spaghetti tbf

It's not a feature

[unreal laurel]

Mhmm

[floral vapor]

@queen jungle It definitely needs to be maintained then

I didn't know it even existed and it hasn't been updated for over a year

It's a silly reason, just seems like an excuse to buffer communication with the community to me

[unborn smelt]

@steel shoal there used to be a channel that listed highly liked suggestions and suggestions the devs were interesred in

[floral vapor]

The reaosn* they gave doesn't make that much sense

[unborn smelt]

Many of the tjongs in there got implemented too

[steel shoal]

I'm assuming it got removed because people made too much of an expectation to have them be implemented?

[unborn smelt]

Bingo

[steel shoal]

[unborn smelt]

Its in the archived channels list towards the bottom - where it lists why it was closed and you should be able to see how it looked like

[floral vapor]

Actually, honestly knowing gamers

It's probably fair

[steel shoal]

is it #suggestions-overview?

wtf is #lore-discussion-hardcore

[unborn smelt]

Yep

[floral vapor]

We don't talk about that

[unborn smelt]

Used to be the second lore channel

[steel shoal]

holy crap triple digit and quadruple digit thumbs ups...

here I thought I broke a record with 60

[floral vapor]

That's part of my problem with the current system

Most suggestions get no visibility and there's no acknowledgement of any kind that the devs or community managers are reading any of it

[unborn smelt]

I mean many of the things implemented are suggestions

[floral vapor]

II don't even care if it's just a vague generalized statement that they put out now and again to confirm they are listening but there's been very little in the way of communication since I got here

[steel shoal]

I kind of understand why

[unborn smelt]

They just dont copy suggestions but instead take them as inspiration and do the final iteration and balance themselves

[steel shoal]

I'm not sure if it's a direct 1:1 comparison, but card game devs for games like Legends of Runeterra can't acknowledge the existence of a custom card-making scene lest they risk legal action when a card they make for the game just so happens to be similar to an idea a custom card maker made

sucks, but I see where they're coming from

[blissful pewter]

@keen bolt for you idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjdi48QakyE&ab_channel=ForgottenWeapons

[keen bolt]

I know

But I'm going for Bayou made 2 slot gun

Basically not mastercraft

You get the idea

[blissful pewter]

yea I getcha

[rigid basalt]

if u are able to swithc hands u might be able to get a shot at someone that u could not get a shot on otherwise or see a hunter earlier cause the gun ist blocking that part of the screeen

[blissful pewter]

thoughts

[vague patio]

maybe follow the pattern of the other 2 slot revolvers.
they dont have a rifle like stock but an attachment for stability

[keen bolt]

Fking perfect!

[vague patio]

following hunt design rules, that would be a 3 slot

[keen bolt]

That's what I'm going for

[blissful pewter]

I mean

[vague patio]

mistyped

[half stag]

wouldn't have the wooden foregrip (revolvers have a cylinder gap which lets out hot gases around the area between the cylinder and barrel, meaning you can't place your other hand at the front like a rifle, and have to use a twohanded grip similar to the precision variants we have in game)

[blissful pewter]

Ouch my hand burn

It's just a proof of concept

[frosty garnet]

@snow ledge, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
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I also still don´t understand why looted scoped weapons have a cracked scope. I mean there is no "disadvantage" if you loot a normal Mosin or Sparks... Removing contraband status could fix the scope too, I would like it.```

[floral vapor]

@rustic crypt Everyone loves corporate pandering

[rigid basalt]

i want it i need it thats realy nice

[blissful pewter]

I honestly really liked the idea

Since there is like no lematt variations

[sick anvil]

Why god why again the 1895 from the 1917 contract

[blissful pewter]

Hm?

[sick anvil]

Another suggestion for the Winchester 1895 that again and again person suggesting did not bother do any research to figure out that Winchester only chambered the Modell 95 with 7.62X54R in 1917 and the original chamberings are far from long ammo

[blissful pewter]

Ah

[sick anvil]

1895 chamberings were .30Army , .38-72 and .40-72

[blissful pewter]

I mean it's not like hunt hasn't gone past the year 1895 gun wise

[sick anvil]

while it did it went within reason

going as far as to WWI guns opens a little bit to many doors

[blissful pewter]

I mean the real life counter part of the avto was made in 1917

So I don't see why it's to big of an issue

[late wind]

I'd say .30-40 Krag is probably long ammo. Iirc that was one of the original chambering.

[sick anvil]

.30 army could be considered both long and or medium

[rigid basalt]

@blissful pewter
did u make the pictures of the lemat carbine or from where did u get them?

[blissful pewter]

I made it yes

[blissful pewter]

I have 3d model experience. So I turn people's ideas into reality kinda

[sick anvil]

Why is this man not working for Crytek ?

[blissful pewter]

I applied for a job haven't gotten an email back yet though

[late wind]

Yo can you fix the lebel irons?

[blissful pewter]

Wdym?

[sick anvil]

Fingers crossed for you

[rigid basalt]

alright so technically u have the rights to the pictures so anyway would u mind if i used them for a suggestion ?

[blissful pewter]

Yea it's fine lol

[rigid basalt]

i hope u get the job that artwork looks nice

[late wind]

They're all sorts of wrong. The front post and rear leaf don't match their patterns.

[blissful pewter]

Have you seen some of the other stuff I've done

[keen bolt]

Yes... But this is fantasy world 😅

[blissful pewter]

I suggested this awhile ago with fairly good results

[rigid basalt]

yup i did see some of the stuff the reason why i asked i had a guy who complained to the mods cause i used a picture in a suggestion that he supposedly had drewn and didnt want me to use (turned out he didnt draw them 🤣 )

[keen bolt]

Because it fills the niche nothing else fills it yet

[half stag]

well they care a lot about realism (hell they even changed some mechanics just to match irl and went into the effort of differentiating the gas vents on guns with a cylinder gap and without)

[keen bolt]

And Scottsfield cannot be fanned

Also I don't think uppercut works irl either

[blissful pewter]

Ah np feel free to use the images

[keen bolt]

Open top frame are simply not able to withstand power of full sized cartridge

[half stag]

its for gameplay consistency (as said before, using realism is a nice template, however, if it impedes/is inconsistent in gameplay or feels worse, it will be changed)

[half stag]

well duh

[keen bolt]

And I was wondering who suggested that Idea cause the 3d art were awesome

[half stag]

there's a reason why we have solid frame revolvers only nowadays

[keen bolt]

That is why I say it's not really wrong to make a Revolver carbine even though it breaks realism

(wear a long sleeve helps a bit ...but some hunter doesn't)

[blissful pewter]

Lol my chain rival was a funny idea

Kind of a meme but wtv

[keen bolt]

It was funny 🤣 ngl

[half stag]

it doesnt though . . . (they still tried to make revolving carbines, they just didn't have the foregrip, that's all)

[floral vapor]

@past maple I'm not sure why long ammo doesn't pierce through thin portions of armored's armor, if you can kill an elephant with a sparks why is a chunk of what is basically wood no thicker than an arm doing the trick