Its meta for what 3 years straight
#feedback-discussion
unborn smelt
dense sapphire
Or quick swap
Nerf
“Oh but long will be bad now”
Lololol
Still see sparks upper to this day
unborn smelt
Even if vetterli dropoff would be 30m and a 100m 2 tap
keen bolt
Even if vetterli dropoff would be 30m and a 100m 2 tap
Then it will replace long ammo for less skilled player
dense sapphire
Mosin still has that 152m 2 tap
keen bolt
Even further fucking up the Economy
unborn smelt
Mosin has 150m 2 tap 40m dropoff
dense sapphire
Or was it 156
unborn smelt
Iirc 155
half stag
Even further fucking up the Economy
I think that ship has already sailed
unborn smelt
Then it will replace long ammo for less skilled player
maybe... but not make it obsolete
dense sapphire
Economy could be fixed but we’d need some radical changes
Honestly restrictive money caps might work
keen bolt
I think that ship has already sailed
Oh m8 if Vetterli 2 tap people at 100m then by god I won't ever be running long ammo again
dense sapphire
But would be exceedingly unpopular
unborn smelt
Still significantly less effective and reliable
fluid locust
Oh m8 if Vetterli 2 tap people at 100m then by god I won't ever be running long ...
I mean vett would still need HV to be similar to long ammo. otherwise it's just a long range winfield
keen bolt
But it's like 1/5 the cost
half stag
Oh m8 if Vetterli 2 tap people at 100m then by god I won't ever be running long ...
long ammo limb damage tho . . .
dense sapphire
If you could only have 10k max, you’d bet believe significantly less people would be spamming mosins
keen bolt
I mean vett would still need HV to be similar to long ammo. otherwise it's just ...
Well you underestimate the power of 'leading the shot' once you get accustomed to the velocity
half stag
Honestly restrictive money caps might work
I'd be more in favor of actually encouraging prestiging
fluid locust
If you could only have 10k max, you’d bet believe significantly less people woul...
quickplay. and I legit don't even use mosins that I buy. basically always free lol
half stag
give us something to spend hunt bucks on besides gear, hunter customization options if you prestige, more unique cosmetics or perks for prestiging
dense sapphire
I'd be more in favor of actually encouraging prestiging
I actually kinda like the option not to prestige
keen bolt
Hunt dollar skins
dense sapphire
Since a lot of casual players don’t want to deal with the prestige grind
dense sapphire
Since it is a pain in the ass
half stag
Since a lot of casual players don’t want to deal with the prestige grind
main problem with prestige is how ass it is to farm everything back up
unborn smelt
I think more prestige rewards would be good
dense sapphire
If it was a smoother experience i might change my mind
I prestige because
- Street cred
- I get bored; I want progression
unborn smelt
main problem with prestige is how ass it is to farm everything back up
Thats kind of the point of prestiging tho
half stag
like let us farm xp with guns we haven't unlocked yet, so that by the time you get to it, you have variants there waiting
half stag
Thats kind of the point of prestiging tho
it doesn't need to be this clunky tho
unborn smelt
To showhey i did it despite it being so ass
dense sapphire
Thats kind of the point of prestiging tho
True but if you play the game casually, it’s kinda ass
Also, fuck that hive bomb grind
half stag
like, is it really necessary to have everything wiped out by prestige 90 lets say? at least let us keep 1 gun or something unlocked
unborn smelt
Yeah i'drather they give more prestige rewards and rework some of the unlock trees
keen bolt
I never use them besides free one
dense sapphire
Unless they changed it
keen bolt
So I never knew
dense sapphire
5 for poison bomb, 15 for antidote, 25 for hive, 25 for poison trip mines
unborn smelt
like, is it really necessary to have everything wiped out by prestige 90 lets sa...
But then you get peeps with easier prestige having the same recognition as thoae that got it the hard way
dense sapphire
Actually, it might be 10 for poison now, think they might’ve changed the requirements
unborn smelt
Which kind of defeats the bragging right
keen bolt
It's easy tbh More reward for prestiging
dense sapphire
So 50 poison items to get hives unlocked
half stag
But then you get peeps with easier prestige having the same recognition as thoae...
like people who did it earlier before a supposed rework?
half stag
Yes
I mean, if they take issue with that, I'm sorry but they need to take a good look at themselves in the mirror (that's my opinion ofc)
dense sapphire
And I grind out those fuckers every prestige because I love hive bombs
keen bolt
Tbh a good Idea for economy
Cash shop - buy community skin (one that didn't win)
half stag
Thats whyi'm thinking more rewards that those retroactively get too
where's that god damn hunter customization
dense sapphire
Thats whyi'm thinking more rewards that those retroactively get too
Did you have a stroke there?
I saw the edit
You ok?
unborn smelt
Did you have a stroke there?
Am on mobile because my router got zapped on monday
keen bolt
Oh yeah Hunter Customisation as legendary Skin would be cool
unborn smelt
dense sapphire
XD
unborn smelt
And mobile has so smol buttons and i have so big thumbs
dense sapphire
Chonky fingas
half stag
Tbh a good Idea for economy
Cash shop - buy community skin (one that didn't win...
actually speaking of which, they should have something like the steam workshop where community members can create skins and submit them to Crytek for approval and addition, would let them have more cosmetics to sell, encourage community interaction, and get people to buy more blood bonds
dense sapphire
Ugh
The problem with steam workshop is people stop giving a damn about the art style
half stag
The problem with steam workshop is people stop giving a damn about the art style
"submit them to Crytek for approval and addition"
Crytek will have the last say in if they get added or not
dense sapphire
Yeah but if some gaudy ass skin gets a bunch of upvotes, and crytek is a greedy ass company, then it might get added
half stag
Yeah but if some gaudy ass skin gets a bunch of upvotes, and crytek is a greedy ...
fair point
dense sapphire
If we could have CSGO skins in Hunt, a ton of people would jump on that
unborn smelt
Yeah but if some gaudy ass skin gets a bunch of upvotes, and crytek is a greedy ...
Big disagree
dense sapphire
On which, crytek being greedy or them caving
unborn smelt
I hope the monetisation blogpost comes soo
So i dont think they'd cave in, much less because they are greedy
dense sapphire
Clarification: when I mean crytek I mostly mean the management and shit, not the devs
unborn smelt
Even those i dont think are greedy.
dense sapphire
Are they running a company
unborn smelt
A videogame is a product of a business just like any other
keen bolt
A videogame is a product of a business just like any other
Well I mean yes exactly as a businessman I can confidently say
dense sapphire
Company’s are greedy by definition because their sole purpose is to make money.
keen bolt
When it comes to money
keen bolt
Company’s are greedy by definition because their sole purpose is to make money.
This is the reason
unborn smelt
As such it needs to make enought to sustain itself and since its cryteks only live service likely also develompent for other projects at least in part
And achieving that in a game this old that cant rely on base game sales anymore is bound to see monetisation changes
dense sapphire
I give significantly less flak to crytek than a lot of people
keen bolt
Are they Greedy should not be a question ...Humans are all greedy some more than others
The question should be are they 'ethical'
dense sapphire
I understand the DLC’s
unborn smelt
Admittedly i dont like some of the things they did
dense sapphire
I understand the change in monetization
keen bolt
Are they ethical enough to only approve skins that fits into hunt
keen bolt
Or will they bring in one with Flairs
unborn smelt
But i hope a lot clears up with more communication if they'll be allowed to share that stuff
dense sapphire
Ngl tho, Hunt art style is going strong
unborn smelt
Are they ethical enough to only approve skins that fits into hunt
I'd say yes they are
dense sapphire
When the biggest art fuckup they’ve done (IMO) is Winter Rose and Scrooge McDuck then we doing solid
keen bolt
Service industry is the best industry to work in I'm telling you when it comes to pure profit
Anything that sells emotion not the product itself
unborn smelt
Hunt is from the ground up built on a more mature and serious foundation than games like TF2
keen bolt
When the biggest art fuckup they’ve done (IMO) is Winter Rose and Scrooge McDuck...
Hey that's my fav skin :(
dense sapphire
😛
I don’t like it
Colors are too vibrant and has a whole different vibe from the hunt bayou
It looks good, but it doesn’t look like a hunt skin
keen bolt
Meh I say they still fit in
dense sapphire
I’d take either of the other vetterli skins over it
It’s not egregious
I’m not offended by it’s presence…mostly
But of all the skins, it’s the one I look at and think “this doesn’t belong”
If it’s the biggest art style departure we ever get, we good
keen bolt
I'd argue about the cloth wrappings
And the colour of the wood
Otherwise it's definitely best skin for me
dense sapphire
If you like it, you like it
dense sapphire
Yeah
keen bolt
Atleast make it green ...sigh
dense sapphire
Too vibrant blue for the bayou
I’d pick mountain air any day over it
But I like a lot of those simpler looking skins anyway
keen bolt
Don't take me wrong I like the simpler skin as well
dense sapphire
shrugs
keen bolt
Well anyway I'd be glad if there's more ways to use hunt dollars
dense sapphire
I need all my hollas for mah guns
keen bolt
Imo they should just did away with community skin that lose already
dense sapphire
Monehs fur mah headclickas
dense sapphire
Imo they should just did away with community skin that lose already
?
keen bolt
Make the skin that lose the contest buyable via hunt dollar
Tell me how that Nagant fking silencer lose to that stupid 'bird of prey'
Noone even plays that shit
Or that Romero hatchet not making it
dense sapphire
I didn’t remember that silenced Nagant
Looks cool
At the same time, I like birds of prey
unborn smelt
I do
dense sapphire
As for the Romero hachet it’s a Nordic themed skin. Bought as not Hunt as it gets
Looks cool, but not a Hunt skin
unborn smelt
Looks way too modern imo
Lost that selfmade look
Was a round matte black modern looking silencer
dense sapphire
I’d need to see more if it
unborn smelt
As for nordic themed i dont think thats to no Hunt
keen bolt
Yeah but they could tweak it right?
unborn smelt
There are Hunters associations all across the world reportedly and we already have rune inscribed weapons
dense sapphire
As well as completely different lore
keen bolt
There are Hunters associations all across the world reportedly and we already ha...
There
dense sapphire
I like my skins to naturally fit with the environment. If you need exposition as to why it’s there I’m not a fan
unborn smelt
Just because it's set in the Bayou doesnt mean there will only ever be southeners down there.
Obviously it'd need some tweaki g but saying somone came from afar to fight the corruption isnt too far fetched
dense sapphire
Why I don’t like winter rose, it does not visually belong in the bayou
dense sapphire
Just because it's set in the Bayou doesnt mean there will only ever be southener...
That second statement
Right there
I don’t like it
unborn smelt
Else how did the americans have a krag jorgensen as service rifle
dense sapphire
Show, don’t tell
I wouldn’t have a problem with the Asian hunters if they combined Asian themes with the bayou
How that would look, idk
But they look like anime ninjas in a southern swamp
There’s no good visual connection
dense sapphire
Too flashy
keen bolt
This legit is a better skin for the crocodile man than the romero
dense sapphire
Obviously the skins take creative liberties
keen bolt
Too flashy
Well apparently I thought the same about the Vetterli 'back bone' skin
Or this one if modified could be a really cool Bayonet mosin
unborn smelt
If were honest - because mosin won
keen bolt
You know ... making the antlers face forward
dense sapphire
But most of them aren’t a big stretch
keen bolt
Or this one as optional skin
dense sapphire
Well apparently I thought the same about the Vetterli 'back bone' skin
That’s fair
keen bolt
I'd pay 50,000 hunt dollar for that
unborn smelt
Ofc some may think its too flashy
keen bolt
Ofc some may think its too flashy
Yet the stupid Gold skin for vandal and Winfield exist
And not in the classy manner
Like
keen bolt
Or this one as optional skin
This
fair raft
Hey I think that the summons would be better if you can rotate completed challenges out the way
By out the way I mean replace them with a new uncompleted summons
little carbon
Honestly restrictive money caps might work
Money caps don't help at all with the economy balance in Hunt. The only thing that matters is prices and income. They have to be balanced against each other. Putting a cap on money only hurts people who like to cluster their playing of loadouts.
dense sapphire
And not in the classy manner
Gold mine is a bit overdone
keen bolt
This looks like something that a 'classy person' might have
dense sapphire
Money caps don't help at all with the economy balance in Hunt. The only thing th...
If player does well consistently, they can reach such high bank counts that money doesn’t become an issue
keen bolt
And this looks like some gun a person who just won a lotto might have
dense sapphire
Even if income is reduced, consistent performance will still result in bulging banks
Unless income is so low that average players can’t make bank at all
keen bolt
That
You really can't fix economy without hurting another group of player
Just like in Tarkov
dense sapphire
I’m not sure how good of an idea money caps are, especially since they’d be “unpopular” but they do limit the top end of players
keen bolt
Yes ...to make them not racking up as much money I guess but they would still be consistently getting high tier weapon cause their performance anyway
Not to mention we could pick up other people's gun
dense sapphire
Yes but if they end up dying, they don’t have huge safety nets to not feel the impact
little carbon
If player does well consistently, they can reach such high bank counts that mone...
The people you are describing, will just always be at the cap and still always buying expensive loadouts, since they are making money consistently.
keen bolt
And they will use lower tier gun and still dominate
dense sapphire
If you die with a 1k load out with 10k in the bank, you feel it
dense sapphire
If you die with a 1k load out with 300k in the bank, it’s not felt at all
little carbon
If you die with a 1k load out with 10k in the bank, you feel it
You also have a money buffer in the form of 50 hunter slots
keen bolt
This is why I just say to just add a skin shop
dense sapphire
It’s probably not a good idea
keen bolt
People who are good can just buy the shit they like
Make it very expensive
Like 30k minimum
Everyone is happy
dense sapphire
But it’s a consideration
dense sapphire
Like 30k minimum
Want me to poke holes in that 🙂
little carbon
And generally, if you are consistent at making money, then you should be able to consistently play expensive loadouts.
keen bolt
Also people who just simply like the skin but not a good player now have something to work towards
dense sapphire
If you have skins you can only buy with hollas, and they’re expensive
Guess what people aren’t going to do
Prestige
They’re also going to hoard cash. It also (might) make people play more passively so they can save up for that skin they want
keen bolt
Make sense but even then you can't fix what's fking broken!
dense sapphire
Perfect solutions don’t exist and it frustrates me
little carbon
They really just have to lower the income from non bounty sources
keen bolt
How broken even is it tho
Ask tarkov people lol
dense sapphire
Why isn’t mosin upper the only load out
Sure it’s a common load out
But so are winfields and romeros
For the top tier players, yeah the system doesn’t work
But for a lot of people money is a consideration
The system definitely isn’t perfect though
keen bolt
For the top tier players, yeah the system doesn’t work
And that's same in tarkov
But it wipes
dense sapphire
And economic tweaks could improve things
keen bolt
A lot of people who plays tarky even say it themselves
little carbon
But for a lot of people money is a consideration
All those statements here would mean the system is working as intended.
keen bolt
If the game doesn't wipe they wouldn't be playing
You guess it right? Good people will be good and racking tons of cash - while others don't it's just it being that way
dense sapphire
If the game doesn't wipe they wouldn't be playing
I wouldn’t have played hunt this long without prestige
dense sapphire
I legitimately enjoy my first 50 ranks more than my last 50 ranks
Except for grinding hive bombs
Fuck that
little carbon
The problem with tarkov is that money makes money in that game since the advantages you get from high powered loadouts are insane
keen bolt
Except for grinding hive bombs
Yup f. That x2
keen bolt
The problem with tarkov is that money makes money in that game since the advanta...
Yup but in Hunt you can't nerf skill
unborn smelt
If the game doesn't wipe they wouldn't be playing
Im on the other spectrum if Hunt would wipe i wont be playing it
keen bolt
Im on the other spectrum if Hunt would wipe i wont be playing it
Exactly
dense sapphire
I love the fact that a shitty Nagant can delete a 1k loadout with a headshot
keen bolt
That's the reason why Prestige is a choice
unborn smelt
Tarkov with armor and the like has such a huge gear diffrence that i think wipes are necessary
keen bolt
I love the fact that a shitty Nagant can delete a 1k loadout with a headshot
This just happened to me yesterday thanks for reminding
Fucking hell
dense sapphire
🙂
unborn smelt
In Hunt a hs is hs...
little carbon
Yup but in Hunt you can't nerf skill
And why would you. It's ok that high skill means an advantage
keen bolt
And why would you. It's ok that high skill means an advantage
I didn't say I would lil
unborn smelt
No helmet no body armor
dense sapphire
No helmet no body armor
And it should stay that way
keen bolt
That's why I said you really can't nerf economy
Without new player suffering
Just kinda like flea market fee nerf hits average player more than top tiers
A matter of truth is that money won't be a concern to top tier even if you nerf economy into the ground
dense sapphire
Solution: give them only combat axe every round and they have to find guns
dim heron
@next anchor There is a quick buy button... It's called loadouts.
unborn smelt
To be honest i think the issue is there's no incentive to play low tier stuff
keen bolt
When will they just add shovel as free weapon you can take into the match xd
dense sapphire
Other than it’s fun
unborn smelt
I'm still a firm believer that selling guns would work or at least not hurt in that regard
You can only make profitselling if you didnt have expensive gear to beginn with
dense sapphire
I’m a broke ass hunter usually so I do have to run cheap guns out of necessity
But I also prestige
keen bolt
Sigh 6 stars yester was rough actually ...got me to 1 dollar
unborn smelt
So you eitherun low tier to make profit - which means youre not running high tier no matter your money...
Or you run high tier and make no profit
little carbon
I’m a broke ass hunter usually so I do have to run cheap guns out of necessity
What makes you run out of money of i might ask
dense sapphire
I like murder
I will die for murder
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
keen bolt
CORN FOR THE CORNFLAKES
dense sapphire
If you ask me
A. Get 2 kills and die
B. Get out with bounty but no kills
I’m taking A in a heartbeat
dense sapphire
Gauntlet or die
keen bolt
Aka get 8 kills and die
dense sapphire
But if we’re specifically talking the scenario above, that shows my play style
Murder before money
keen bolt
I'm still a firm believer that selling guns would work or at least not hurt in t...
That would work actually
dense sapphire
Also I do dumb shit a lot
keen bolt
But they nerf it even worse
keen bolt
Also I do dumb shit a lot
I went to 6 stars with quad nagant
dense sapphire
I got 8 kills In a game recently but lost
keen bolt
Fun times
dense sapphire
Running around in CQC with sparks sniper and pocket avto
Well “lost”
But I call that a win
dense sapphire
I went to 6 stars with quad nagant
Mosquito
little carbon
I like murder
Without wanting to attack you, i think that is not necessarily a sign of the system needing rework. Of course I don't know what exactly your Playstyle entails.
What loadouts are you running?
dense sapphire
Without wanting to attack you, i think that is not necessarily a sign of the sys...
I’m not asking for a rework tho
It’s all them
System works for me
keen bolt
Tbh sometimes we just do stupid shit that we know we will lose k/d for but if it's fun it doesn't matter
dense sapphire
Tbh sometimes we just do stupid shit that we know we will lose k/d for but if it...
Axe go wack
keen bolt
Axe go wack
Oh please - I'd go in naked and finds a shovel XD
Can't believe we got 4 kills that match
dense sapphire
Without wanting to attack you, i think that is not necessarily a sign of the sys...
I run almost everything
keen bolt
We didn't even have med kits
keen bolt
I literally love every weapon except martini
Bruh Martini is so cursed
dense sapphire
With varied frequency
keen bolt
I don't know why I can't work with it
keen bolt
Also the 'Alison' shotgun skin
That's cursed skin for me
I never have a successful game running it
signal mural
To be honest i think the issue is there's no incentive to play low tier stuff
I dunno most my loadouts are under lvl 30 gear. But I do Prestige whenever it comes around.
keen bolt
And I have like 1,000+ hours in total lol
dense sapphire
Rival is my least favorite shotgun and I still like it
dense sapphire
Wait, haven’t you been playing for like 2 years?
keen bolt
Yeah ... working life lol
dense sapphire
I remember you on the discord around when I started
keen bolt
I've been here since Beta
signal mural
I'm just around 400hrs, joined I think shortly before 'Light & Shadow' event I guess...
dense sapphire
Bruh I got way more time than you
dense sapphire
Wait what
keen bolt
Yeah HP by tier
dense sapphire
Oh right
keen bolt
Fuck that shit
keen bolt
Legit if you have mosin it's like you have nitro that works 50/50
dense sapphire
Sounds fun
dense sapphire
I'm just around 400hrs, joined I think shortly before 'Light & Shadow' event I g...
Fair amount of playtime. Was that last fall?
Wait
Hold up
How old is light the shadow
signal mural
I think 2 years...
dense sapphire
No
keen bolt
The Bow n Axe event
signal mural
Exactly
signal mural
I know I missed 'As the Crow Flies'
dense sapphire
Have I been playing for 3 years?
keen bolt
Funny thing - dolch was cheap when it first dropped
Cheaper than mosin
Also there's a lot of bad stuff in beta
dense sapphire
Just checked, two years
keen bolt
But some good stuff really need to come back
Tbh I actually miss my 85 damage Winfield
dense sapphire
Why
dense sapphire
XD
keen bolt
If you say current hunt is spam meta
keen bolt
You have not seen the swift + 120 rpm lmao
dense sapphire
Lol
keen bolt
Just making the joke 😂
dense sapphire
Fair enough
Maybe at lower elo spam is a viable tactic
But it just makes you headshot bait at even 4 stars
keen bolt
Here
You won't believe
How many good player just dominate with Winfield back then
You spam for headshots with impunity
signal mural
I forgot that I was there for Halloween... maybe I got in just last summer. Have I really put in 400hrs in less than a year?
dense sapphire
Is that a lot for you?
keen bolt
Yup good night everyone XD
dense sapphire
Maybe I just play too much
signal mural
No, but for a competitive game maybe. My library is over 700.
keen bolt
I like my current winni thx
levering = old winni rof lmao
dense sapphire
I got 2.5k in just over two years
signal mural
Goodnight Vett
dense sapphire
Night ya’ll and good hunting
keen bolt
Nah I'm not off yet
dense sapphire
passes out
keen bolt
It's mid day for me lol
signal mural
Morning here 10:30am
signal mural
Ha! First time someone has called me that
keen bolt
XD
signal mural
Sorry miss read; g'night Lasagna
keen bolt
So it's been 2 years since bow dropped
Hmmm
That's quite a huge while
Feels as if special ammo was just last year
signal mural
Nah, I guess my timeline is off. It was maybe just last November?
keen bolt
Idk tbh
I was here on and off
Because no friends playing this game
Now that I started to 'main' this game my hours just skyrocket (700 in 1 year)
signal mural
27 May, 2021- that's when I started
Yeah, I joined after asking a friend who had it sitting dead in his library. He was in since EA days but I rarely saw him play it.
signal mural
Yeah and the learning curve is relatively high.
keen bolt
Yes I'd agree
experience mattered a lot
Yesterday we basically get Team Ace (like we kill one of each player)
And when I look at their profile I'm saddened by that
Crytek you really think giving that man a 5 star is just?
Dude only got 100 kills
That's like... nothing
signal mural
My MMR hangs around 3-5 though. I swear after the last server patch I was just suffering. I probably went on a 50 death streak... I don't know what they did but it was just brutal.
keen bolt
You know how I kill that guy?
Couching in the open
With a sniper in his hand
Like... I see he could be that one camper 5 star we all dreaded but like
The guy are barely experienced
signal mural
😂
keen bolt
His cause of death?
Stepped on a Branch
Yes my teammate heard it
And that team is done in about 5 sec
They are all 5 stars tho
But like ...those guys are 5 star!?
signal mural
I love Hunt for these unforgettable fights.
keen bolt
And guess what happened
The next round I went against 6 star with double UC and avto
Dude domed me in 1 shot with Nagant pistol
I'm not mad
I'm impressed lolll
No...not the officer
The Nagant pistol - unsilenced ...no special ammo
That lv1 nagant
signal mural
I remember the 1st time I got UC'd. I was behind a gated fence at the the Churchyard and dude headshot me from 90m through the fence & it's gate from the church tower.
signal mural
Yeah I don't know... the prevalence of cheats as a service websites targeting Hunt makes me always skeptical when I get HS from a basic Nagant over 30m.
I can't hit the broadside of a barn with the UC but I can stick a grenade to an enemy hunter at max throw non-pitcher and HS kill running Hunters with a Vett Marksman through wooded fields... something about my brain just cannot get UC's velocity down
keen bolt
I didn't think it is cheater 90% of times
But I admit
When I see they hide their profile and hours
Or when their k/d and hours did not match up
I report them just in case
keen bolt
I can't hit the broadside of a barn with the UC but I can stick a grenade to an ...
Lol just think you're using the Vett
signal mural
It's velocity is ideal.
torpid copper
Long ammo should do less damage at close range to reduce it's versatility.
keen bolt
Long ammo should do less damage at close range to reduce it's versatility.
Tbh I don't think so
torpid copper
Tbh I don't think so
they'll have to do something, Long ammo is pretty much the only gun worth running at high mmr
little carbon
they'll have to do something, Long ammo is pretty much the only gun worth runnin...
Nah, you can do fine with other guns in high mmr.
torpid copper
it's not about doing fine, it's about being competitive. Lebel aperture is what I see most with a upper cut as back up
signal mural
What?! Long ammo should have the most consistent DMG over distance. Giving reverse dropoff makes no logical sense. I'm by no means top tier but I feel like lots of the gear is situational. I'd guess MMR6 is dominated by rifles because the Pros know the maps by heart, know where people tend to take cover, and are attuned for finding their targets at greater range.
keen bolt
^
Not to mention superior aim
And movement (aka both short and long range flank and rotation)
signal mural
Yeah, that too
keen bolt
I have heard a lot of Idea trying to nerf long ammo
But this one is the weirdest and most likely not work the most
Well unless
You want this back
I'd say bring this Winfield back for a week and noone will complain about long ammo
signal mural
How were the game's graphics before? I always hear tale of how beautiful it was... but I'm running everything at max and scopes seem to outreach draw distances...
keen bolt
Hmm
I say my PC ran it at 5 fps before
After they rework it I ran it with the same PC and got 30 fps
keen bolt
How were the game's graphics before? I always hear tale of how beautiful it was....
Yeah so quite different
Crysis curse but on smaller scale than Crysis
To be fair tho ... Night used to be darker
That's the part I miss
next anchor
<@166789572712333313> There is a quick buy button... It's called loadouts.
We need a button that buys a Legendary hunter and assigns a loadout to him. Ready to play in one single click. No more opening "recruitment" tab, going to "Legendary hunters" section, scrolling to find a desired hunter, buying him, going to roster tab, selecting our hunter, going to loadouts section, finding a desired loadout, buying the loadout.
It's not much work, but to do it multiple times every day? time consuming and boring
And the UX is a mess. You need several clicks to do simple tasks
signal mural
We need a button that buys a Legendary hunter and assigns a loadout to him. Read...
I don't think this is viable, most people design a loadout based on their traits not just appearance. Legendary Hunters get random traits so you need to adjust your loadouts accordingly. The Loadout custom presets are the best attempt at simplifying this skullduggery.
I have a roster of 10 or 11 spots and usually after ever play session I close out the night by filling up the vacancies, cashing in Mr. Chary points, and equipping them all for the next time.
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Gun doesn't fit in, and seems like it's too cheap since every other game there is atleast 1-2 avtomat users.
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REMOVE AVTOMAT
gun is being used way too often by hackers also it's being used way too often nowdays appreantly even by non hackers.
Gun doesn't fit in, and seems like it's too cheap since every other game there is at least 1-2 avtomat users.
Remove it from normal bounty and leave it for quickplay for found item if possible such way.
unborn smelt
Avto is pretty good can very reliably kill to ~70m in 1-2 bursts.
But to me it feels out of place in a game like hunt.
dense sapphire
REMOVE AVTOMAT
gun is being used way too often by hackers also it's being used w...
I might see an 2 avtos a week max and I play every day.
Avto is actually a good gun but you have to know how to use it. It requires a specific play style for maximum effect and works better the more you have.
It’s honestly not worth the cost or the effort to unlock it from a cost-effectiveness ratio though
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karmic ivy
@dense sapphire you edited the "custom ammo side-grade" topic twice and I do not know which way to vote now.
Are you asking as the title says if side-grades are desired...
or
are you asking if upgrades are desired?
It was clear when you had the bold text, but now that you removed that, it seems to contradict what it said before.
glossy sable
translation: "kill hunters with the legendary "virgin leather"" -This mission shouldn't come out if you don't have the DLC previously, you can't finish the invocations if you don't pay, it seems unfair and theft, that's clear
crystal plume
You don't need to complete that summon to complete the weekly 25BBs as you can redo other summons for the marks
All you will be missing out on is 5BBs, which isn't exactly a lot
queen jungle
@cold tulip Please keep your feedback appropriate and remain civil towards Crytek employees
cold tulip
I apologise for the way I phrased my facts & valid criticism.
queen jungle
As a personal comment, there used to be an experimental solo-only queue during Early Access, but it was no fun at all. That's how we got QP as Hunt's solo mode.
cold tulip
If you're referring to my deleted post, then you completely missed the point. But that seems to be a trend. 🤷♂️
queen jungle
Do something about soloqueue. The disadvantage you're at is unfair & gross.
This is what you wrote (minus the offensive part). Solo BH is supposed to put you at a disadvantage. QP is made for a fair solo experience.
cold tulip
Aight, fair point, I should've said "random queue", that's on me.
It's just frustrating to have to deal with outdated, neglected systems. The informal agreement for a live service game is that the player's continued financial support through DLCs & premium currencies is compensated by meaningful improvements to the game.
Instead the update cadence has slowed down to a crawl (like 6 weeks between meaningful updates lately?) & DLCs haven't slowed down.
The only thing we're given is a void to shout into, being the feedback Discord channels, & this game has stagnated, at best.
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late wind
So are we all ready to admit that the issue with Cain was never him being hard to spot? Because since his release hunters far harder to spot have been released.
fluid locust
UC is too strong still
I'm down for an uppercut nerf only if they nerf the rest of long ammo with it. Shit is way too strong at high ELO.
keen bolt
I'm down for an uppercut nerf only if they nerf the rest of long ammo with it. S...
Maybe...
late wind
Long ammo =/= good gun necessarily. I'd take a vetterli over a martini any day.
sick anvil
Nerfing uppercut will only give you one thing people with long ammo will sit out at 150m fish for headshots
Take away the ammo stacking or make it less reliable in compounds
and be honest what from all long ammo guns which ones are an issue with the uppercut ?
Labele Upercut ?
Mosin Upercut ?
Sparks upercut ?
MH ICI uppercut ?
Berthiere Upercut ?
late wind
and be honest what from all long ammo guns which ones are an issue with the upp...
Sparks. Bertheir. Mosin. When paired with an uppercut.
And only because the total amount of long ammo you can hold with them is huge.
So honestly making it special ammo is a great way to prevent stacking. Then drop it down to 124 so it's less reliable inside compounds.
It's broken for a great many reasons. So much so that one nerf alone is unlikely to make it any less meta.
radiant river
if it was special ammo and did 124 damage it would be useless
if you think the sparks needs more ammo then idk
late wind
The sparks has plenty. But using an uppercut to bump it up to 20+ is a bit nutty, yeah?
sick anvil
Sparks. Bertheir. Mosin. When paired with an uppercut.
And only because the tot...
While mosin and bertheir i can understand .
Singleshot gun that takes 4 second reloads
late wind
While mosin and bertheir i can understand .
Singleshot gun that takes 4 second ...
I'm more of the mindset that with that much ammo on a 149dmg gun you can basically shoot forever. While not insane like the mosin or Berthier, you gotta admit that much ammo for a gun that hits that hard is a little silly.
sick anvil
So just because you chose to take a single shot gun you should be only be able to win fights out of range
stay past 180 meters and fish for headshots ?
late wind
So just because you chose to take a single shot gun you should be only be able t...
What does range have to do with anything?
sick anvil
What do you think will ammo pool nerf to MH and sparks bring
instead of being confident to push in just gonna sit out there and play it safe
late wind
What do you think will ammo pool nerf to MH and sparks bring
The same effect it'll have on every other long ammo gun? Force you to land your shots.
late wind
instead of being confident to push in just gonna sit out there and play it safe
You'd still be able to do that. How would an uppercut nerf prevent aggressive martini/sparks plays?
If anything, it'd encourage them.
sick anvil
Martiny will not be hurting as bad from the ammo pool nerf
and it is way more reliable in aggresive plays
Yes makes perfect sense . Having 20 shots reserve and 7 bullets in your guns both guns having an awful reload time .
you going to push in compound and compete against guns that have double or triple the with out reload ammo
or 70+ ammo reserve
fluid locust
People that hate the uppercut are just long ammo nerds who want any non long ammo person to not be able to fight back
late wind
People who simp for the uppercut are just cowards who can't stand the idea of someone running an off meta pick.
fluid locust
If anyone can say long ammo is fine and nerf uppercut in the same breathe then they're just being a hypocrite
sick anvil
People who simp for the uppercut are just cowards who can't stand the idea of so...
Lets just start with insulting players that do not see an eye
keen bolt
Well
late wind
Lets just start with insulting players that do not see an eye
My brother in christ.
Dude did literally the exact same thing not 10 seconds earlier.
I showed how easy it was to flip it around.
keen bolt
Tbh both side make a good point
Long is the meta but even if we change the meta
Something else will become the meta
Let us not be reminded of 120 rpm Winfield
People complained about it so much they nerf Winfield to unusable for a year
And that is when quick swap and long ammo become an actual meta
Noone even run shotguns
And pistols 3 taps
sick anvil
My brother in christ.
Dude did literally the exact same thing not 10 seconds e...
I can not reply to two posts at the same time
keen bolt
And I confidently say I do not wish that era back lol
late wind
And pistols 3 taps
Back when the bornhiem was kinda actually worth purchasing.
sick anvil
Shotguns were played even back in that time and quite allot .
and romero was actually better cause shooting you could follow up with pretty much anything quickly
and it was not hit and run but shotgun was play was only rewarding if you were agressive
now its more common to see passive shotgun play
if you take out slugs
late wind
That's the fault of buckshot sucking miserably. I mean ffs. There's a reason the 1-2* hunters are depicted as carrying shotguns.
They're just cotton candy blasters past like 10m. Shoot someone at 10.00001m and you deal laughable damage without slugs.
keen bolt
Shotguns were played even back in that time and quite allot .
and romero was ac...
Probably I was playing in Asia server where mosin is a thing for 80% of players per round
keen bolt
Medium ammo needs more good guns
This really
late wind
Medium ammo needs more good guns
This is true.
sick anvil
to actually determine if something is busted it would need Data because basing it off in game experience is just feeling police .
you say 80% players run mosin
90% run uppercut .
While i see more shotguns and DW
keen bolt
We're talking about the 'old times' right?
When everyone Pretty much agree there's 80 to 20 ratio on Rifle and shotgun
sick anvil
in the past maybe not now .
Currently if take a look back
6 out of 9 DW
and minimum 5 out of 9 shotguns
keen bolt
We're talking about the 'old times' right?
This
Right now I could say it's balanced out
And it's very diverse
Maybe not so much at high elo
But still a better ratio
Atleast it's not 80-20 like it used to be
I wish they would buff the initial drop off range for medium
half stag
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keen bolt
Or buff the Springfield somehow already
keen bolt
@faint niche dude just went through 2 century
Idk why they think 80% handling is acceptable
For a single shot
...medium ammo
Hell even Winfield C have higher handling
sick anvil
I do not know springfield’s sway is the only thing that makes it suck
sick anvil
Take away the sway and damege is not a problem anymore
the damage sucks because the sway makes you miss at what you aim at
and it reloads fast enough to follow up with is
keen bolt
I should clarify the damage part
I mean damage over distance
It holds the damage really poorly
keen bolt
I mean compared to other single shot or long ammo as a whole
Anyone call up the ballistic chart?
There's s command to call it up
sick anvil
Think if you give the Springfield reliable hut what i aim at within 100 meters up to its HS range it will be a beast
keen bolt
But I just don't know what it is
sick anvil
but you get a gun that is actually stong in compound
keen bolt
Springfield does not have penetration
Dum Dum makes them good for comp fight tho
Imo
sick anvil
Springfield does not have penetration
It does sway makes it not reliable
keen bolt
Springfield should be the gun that has highest handling
sick anvil
it literally sways like you got alzheimer
i played enough springfield to know what makes it suck
keen bolt
Cause it has worse sway than a Vetterli
sick anvil
cause it literarily sways enough to make a chest shot an arm shot at 30 meters
sick anvil
id say that 50% of your shots do not land where you aim
Springfield always took the worst of every nerf
keen bolt
Springfield always took the worst of every nerf
They nerf it?
sick anvil
Not directly
but every nerf that came has affected it indirectly
sway after weapon switch
as an example
it worsened the guns performance
it was always weak.
keen bolt
They should kept the quick swap for Springfield really
sick anvil
To make it right now good it would take to reduce the sway by 50%
at keast
it would literally fix every other issue
fluid locust
People complained about it so much they nerf Winfield to unusable for a year
I mean it kinda deserved it. And long ammo does too. I don't care if something else is meta. Better than the 3 year old stale ass meta we have now.
keen bolt
Ahem added the <>
Yeah basically the old Winfield
It shoots as fast as it levers now
2:45
late wind
Damn.
unborn smelt
Pretty sure it wasnt
keen bolt
And tbh I kinda want it back for years
I say atleast 100 tho
And that's not the fastest it goes - actually there's a clip of a guy shooting it even faster
But it's the C Variant
Anyway you can pull out the damage chart right?
keen bolt
Oof
!chart
Something like that...
What do you think of Buffing Springfield to be the single shot that gets '2 in the hand' as a default
unborn smelt
Dunno - would need to test it
Its main downfall is it dropping to 3/4 shots to body as a single shot gun
And both under 100m
late wind
What do you think of Buffing Springfield to be the single shot that gets '2 in t...
You talking about that thing where guys clutch cartridges between their fingers?
late wind
Yeah I think I'd be cool with that on the condition that such a feat is either a variant (which, what?) or a trait. 5 I think is fair if it works on ALL breech loaders.
keen bolt
Well tbh long doesn't really need more rof does it
late wind
If just the Springfield had access to it then I'd be alright with that.
I do raise an eyebrow though because it would start to enroach on the vetterli.
I could 100% get behind that. Though I don't personally think the Springfield needs any buffs. Though a bayonet variant might be nice.
keen bolt
Well it basically gives Springfield more follow up potential
In my idea it just alternate between fast and slow
sick anvil
I mean it kinda deserved it. And long ammo does too. I don't care if something e...
you don’t like it call it meta
keen bolt
Like 1st reload would be fast and then slow on 2nd as hunter needs to grab 2 shots and ready it in his hand
sick anvil
lack of intellect is meta
late wind
Like 1st reload would be fast and then slow on 2nd as hunter needs to grab 2 sh...
That could be really cool. Every 3rd reload is super slow. Both loading the gun and grabbing cartridges.
keen bolt
While the Idea is Cool
I really wouldn't think the application would be feasible xd
That will piss people who doesn't want the change
And if we make it a trait it will undoubtedly work with other single shot meaning Sparks too
late wind
You could just BS it into an ammo type.
.50-70 textured. A textured cartridge casing helps the shooter keep a better grip on ammunition while firing.
They've made nuttier/more unrealistic things.
There. Total bs on par with dumdum and explosive explosive ammo. As well as all the other cooky/OP stuff that already exists in this game.
sick anvil
You could just BS it into an ammo type.
.50-70 textured. A textured cartridge ...
That wording is odd . better grip on the ammo while firing .
to me it comes across like the hunter is squishing the ammo until it fires +
Looking at https://nixatek.com/DamageCalculator.html WTF is that damage drop off on the spingfield
It deals 9 more damage than a damn Winfieldň
wow
late wind
That wording is odd . better grip on the ammo while firing .
to me it comes acr...
I meant it to come across like the casing is checkered and not smooth. A smooth case can slip right out of your fingers. You can hold several between your fingers while firing this textured ammo.
sick anvil
I take back my previous statement it needs a way more damage than that in terms of retention
sick anvil
I meant it to come across like the casing is checkered and not smooth. A smooth ...
Hmm okay
It is something to boost Fire rate on a specific gun ?
why not this
you have two bullets on a holder close to the action either trait or make it a specific variant
variant would make it better cause then it would only buff those guns that need it
unborn smelt
Tbh just rework explosive and give it FMJ
Big issue withSpringie is that its cheap af and tied by medium ammo categorization
sick anvil
Medium ammo in this game is mistreated since forever
late wind
why not this
That way works too.
Though Honestly I get mileage out of the Springfield. I think a lot of people unfairly turn their noses up at it because it isn't long.
sick anvil
If it would sway less id rung it far more often
late wind
Does it really sway that much?
sick anvil
for me yes
maybe it is just the dang thin shape of the gun but it feels like the sway is like the gun is a pool noodle
unborn smelt
Though Honestly I get mileage out of the Springfield. I think a lot of people un...
I used to pre QS nerf
As a budget sniper it failed me far too often - dropping to a 4 shot just shy of 100m is terrible for a single shot rifle
late wind
maybe it is just the dang thin shape of the gun but it feels like the sway is li...
I mean... It's a 52' rifle.
sick anvil
I am just not testing it and when did they reduce the way
late wind
I don't know if they did? It's always felt that way to me. Good. Stable. Controllable. Quick relaod.
And honestly I think losing damage over range is fair. Considering the alternative would be to have it drop like a rock like the actual .50-70
sick anvil
I recall past 1.4 there was a period when the gun was literally swaying left to right about 15°
sick anvil
spring
vague patio
springy compact
unborn smelt
Spring damn near has compact drop tho - nearly the same shots to kill than a winnie
sick anvil
i do not like sawn of guns
vague patio
guess they are so fuckin good
sick anvil
okay to be honest looking againt at the spingie. it needs a buff on damage retention
id say do it a service and give it least 60 dmg on 100
sick anvil
guess they are so fuckin good
no chopping a barrel on a black powder gun is absolute nonsense they should make a ball of fire the size of the moon
vague patio
springy, if you dont hit the head then you are dead
late wind
Black powder smoke clouds when?
sick anvil
70 grains of powder would not burn in half the barrel it would liteally be as effecive as 45 grains and 45 grains would make a nice big flash blinding you for half a century
vague patio
springy plays like a one shot headclicker. but none of the stats of it are really good for it, except maybe handling
sick anvil
the bare minimum should be +10dmg at 100 for all medium
it is nearly no diferrence between compact and medium
keen bolt
It deals 9 more damage than a damn Winfieldň
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or genuine surprise XD
keen bolt
I take back my previous statement it needs a way more damage than that in terms ...
Oh yeah 🤣
keen bolt
why not this
THIS can actually work
sick anvil
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or genuine surprise XD
I never looked at the exact damages of medium ammo at 100 after the range buff with Depoopoo release
sick anvil
i was under the impresion sping does 60 dmg at 100
medium is absolutely again on the receiving end of shit
I am not surprised i am upset
keen bolt
This is what I'm saying about the
-damage and handling part
Either should be buffed
But you really can't updamage the Spring without making the dum dum op
So yes there's that
sick anvil
Spingfield needs a ammo rack o next to the trap door make it rapid 3 shots and damage buff
keen bolt
Lmao
I thought you are ok with their damage
Apparently it deals something like sub 50 damage at 100m
sick anvil
it deals 49 to upper chest
at 100
55 would be ok for like a veterli or cent
but springfield is a damn single shot
but its better of s a spear
throw it at the enemy it would deal more damage
just make the barrel pointy
keen bolt
I suggest them to give it a 'Long ammo' damage curve
Apparently people said iTs GoNnA bE oP
Yeahhhhh
sick anvil
I would say ,
make the curve less steep from 0-50 then slope it down to 60 dmg at 100 and then make it steep
and i was wondering why always when i play that thing only kill on headshots
keen bolt
Lmaoooo
Yeah as a Springfield user
I knew their effective range by heart
Actually ... because it's literally the same as Vett
And people got frustrated why their sniper cent don't kill in 5 shots
sick anvil
i knew medium ammo is poorly treated
but the extend of this is ridiculous
when a compact ammo sniper is about as effective as medium ammo its sad
being s sliver better than a normal winnie for all medium ammo is sad
keen bolt
This is what I've been telling you since the start of the conversion that their damage is very poor
It actually more comparable to compact
Pass 50m
sick anvil
no amount of nerfing long ammo will fix the issue
keen bolt
Xd
sick anvil
real issue is medium ammo is just to weak
keen bolt
I think it goes like this
Strong damage but worse drop off - a compromise for new player
It kinda reflects in the cost of medium weapons
That's probably what Dev was going for
sick anvil
Well the extra money spend on medium does not justify it being lietally same as compact
in terms of distance
keen bolt
That now brings up another issue - either buff the damage graph (drop off) or can't make a high end medium ammo
sick anvil
Buff medium acros the board
Spring needs to outclass other mediums in terms of range
and the others needs to do enough damage on first hit to be threatning to the enemy at 100 meters
keen bolt
Spring needs to outclass other mediums in terms of range
As long as it still use the same drop off
It won't be
4FS gaming already touch on the effectiveness of the Springfield
sick anvil
I do not care what the devs need to change
keen bolt
To sums up he just said 'outclassed by Vett'
Especially now that Vett have marksman
Pretty much removes the niche
sick anvil
I think i said it long time ago before range extension on medium and long .
Compact should be dominant in 50m , medium 100 and long to 150
keen bolt
It's now basically compact 40 medium 70 and long 'all'
sick anvil
with out upercut long is 80+ on all
medium is sub 50 on all
and compact is sub 40 on all
sick anvil
nope
keen bolt
Tbh I don't bother unlocking them because I use Vett as main weapon
sick anvil
but spring should be 60 or even 60+ vet 60 or sub 60 cent id say 58
keen bolt
Well tbh Springfield is a confused gun
sick anvil
Springfield was always a confused gun
keen bolt
Like the cent it has mid-life crisis
sick anvil
jack of non traits loser at all
it is like trying to take a shit in a corner of a sphere
keen bolt
Lol
When Vett doesn't have a marksman the Springfield is the cheap marksman to go
(for headshots)
Then they add vett marksman which can make it go 610m/s
It's basically an f. you to Springfield
sick anvil
buffing all medium rifles above 56+ dmg at 100m
Said spring 60 Vet 58 Cent 57 would pretty much nerf the preceived op of the uppercut
since that does 47 at 100
keen bolt
Title: Springfield Rapid
Adds an Extra device to strap 2 cartridge on the side of the loading gate of the Springfield effectively doubling the firepower
- reduce interval between reload for the first two reload
- after that player have to reload the side pouch
Basically Springfield becomes 3 ammo per reload
👍 🤔 👎
XD
lunar kettle
buffing all medium rifles above 56+ dmg at 100m
Said spring 60 Vet 58 Cent 57 w...
The strength of the uppercut isn't the high-dmg on range.
It's all about headshot range (pocket rifle) and OHK ability against downed hunters in cqc (I think it's around 20m?)
I don't think any change for medium rifles would change the preceived thinking about the uppercut
Instead of changing medium rifles:
Give Pax HV
Give Centennial HV
keen bolt
Instead of changing medium rifles:
Give Pax HV
Give Centennial HV
Might I ask....wtf?
Cent with HV really?😂
Don't make Spitzer on the cheap now cowboy
fluid locust
nah obviously just give uppercut high velocity /s
new army with high velocity though might actually be usable
keen bolt
Might as well give uppercut a poison ammo and Spitzer
sick anvil
The strength of the uppercut isn't the high-dmg on range.
It's all about headsho...
how it looks on average .
Compact ammo looong loong void Long ammo .
And medium ammo is picking its schnozberries out of it its nose because it is medium ammo
Course people see more uppercuts than pax or other guns since medium ammo guns are compact in the corner as unwanted toys
you make medium actually good and part of the people will switch
Do people think cain is bad now that its use dropped to nothing ?
lunar kettle
Don't make Spitzer on the cheap now cowboy
Spitzers strenght ist the combination of speed + pen. HV instead is just speed.
sick anvil
do people think that Dolch is still op now that is barely shows up
keen bolt
Do people think cain is bad now that its use dropped to nothing ?
To be fair I like the guy
Not cause he's op
But he's the only hunter with open mouth
And I find it funny
sick anvil
he looks creepy and remind me of some one
People call uppercut OP because it exists in every match.
keen bolt
Spitzers strenght ist the combination of speed + pen. HV instead is just speed.
But HV on cent would make them a Spitzer speed which makes landing shot on moving targets without lead lol
lunar kettle
But HV on cent would make them a Spitzer speed which makes landing shot on movin...
That would be the reason to pick it.
keen bolt
But it already have the 600m/s tho
sick anvil
Special ammo is not going to fix a thing
as long the regular ammo is crap
and for medium its like leaving a big pile of poo on the bed
keen bolt
Compact or Long is the way XD
sick anvil
even if the last unlock would be tactical nukes for the springfield
keen bolt
Jk I'd keep my Vetterli
Yeah in a way Medium ammo is one of the most unloved
Only 3 guns for long arms and 2 for pistol
If I miss any do correct me
sick anvil
even if you would add HEAP rounds to medium ammo it would not make it any better
2 pistols and 3 guns yep
and its variants
sick anvil
i mean give me a cave man club so i can unga bunga with crain in the bush
compact has 3 rifles
Winnie worse winnie and Headlicker 5000 and 9000
sick anvil
what its normal name dead eye nagant officer with the long barrel
digital nacelle
@keen bolt would this pouch really be any faster than loading the springfield normally?
it's already a 2 second reload
keen bolt
what its normal name dead eye nagant officer with the long barrel
Yeah I know which one you mean
keen bolt
it's already a 2 second reload
1 second chamber time
digital nacelle
I think grabbing the ammunition from the pouch and loading it into the gun would actually be slower than whatever our hunters do now
@rigid basalt I think that a centennial silencer would have too high a velocity for a silenced weapon
keen bolt
Hmmm I mean the ideas are ideas - Springfield are pretty underpowered and could use some variants
digital nacelle
I agree
I just don't think the ammo pouch would do much besides adding 2 reserve to the springfield
which isn't really needed
I think the springfield should do 140 damage tbh
could use a slight damage bump
keen bolt
It's pretty much will give the Springfield 1 sec between shots
Which I think could be good
keen bolt
I think the springfield should do 140 damage tbh
-Dum Dums
sick anvil
<@525412121782124545> I think that a centennial silencer would have too high a v...
the Suppressor speed is 420m/s above that speed as the bullet exits the suppressor 1 meter past it it creates a supersonic boom
rigid basalt
<@525412121782124545> I think that a centennial silencer would have too high a v...
all silencers have reduced bulletspeed just take a look at the vetterli silencer compared to the normal one or on the winfields
digital nacelle
the Suppressor speed is 420m/s above that speed as the bullet exits the suppress...
420 m/s is too fast for a silencer imo
I know they all have reduced bulletspeed
I just think it would be a bit strong having a silenced weapon that has the same velocity as your average rifle
keen bolt
400 would be fair
sick anvil
420m/s is sea level sound barrier at 1atm pressure
digital nacelle
I don't know...I don't want fast silenced guns introduced
anything over 300 makes me hesitant
rigid basalt
the centenial is underused anyway but i see no proplem in a reduced bulletspeed
digital nacelle
I know winfield & vetterli have the option of high velocity, but that makes them louder, have more recoil, use special ammo, and still are around 350 iirc
sick anvil
I don't know...I don't want fast silenced guns introduced
What i am trying to say with that anything faster than that number supressor is not usefull
digital nacelle
which, fair, but even that speed is way too fast for silenced
digital nacelle
the centenial is underused anyway but i see no proplem in a reduced bulletspeed
I agree cent needs help
however I think the best way to do that is to buff it to 125 dmg and have its ROF match the vetterli
if we are discussing variants, however, I do think that a sawn-off cent or a riposte cent would be a lot of fun
keen bolt
Oh fuck yes can't wait to get spammed by cent at 60m (just kidding)
digital nacelle
silenced centennial would either be OP due to its increased bullet speed compared to other silencers or completely useless compared to the silenced vetterli, as the standard rifle is now to the normal vetterli
keen bolt
Yeah Anything - Repeating and 2 slot
rigid basalt
take it as is reduce bulletspeed enough to be subsonic and reduce the drop of range by some than it would be great as a gun
digital nacelle
that is how I see it
keen bolt
Would do
digital nacelle
take it as is reduce bulletspeed enough to be subsonic and reduce the drop of ra...
anything above 300 for a silencer without custom ammo is too great
rigid basalt
anything above 300 for a silencer without custom ammo is *too* great
i agree i d say 290m/s for silencer is good enough and 270m/s for fmj and poison with silencer would fit well
we need a second weapon that has medium poison amo in my mind though cause at the moment the centenial is alone with it right now
rigid basalt
yup maby by giving it to the pax/scottfield and vetterli/springfield
sick anvil
One thing is if you reduce velocity by half you need to increase projectile mass by 4 x to retain energy
no energy no damage making cent a suppressed with under 300 m/s you would turn it in to same damage as ccp
whats the point ?
digital nacelle
whats the point ?
I don't think there is one
hence why I don't think there should be a silenced cent
sick anvil
Cent in game shoots .40-60 with a 14G projectile to make it same damage as the original a suppressed bullet would have to weight 56Grams a breneke slug from a 12G shotgun weights 31.5 grams
its a 71 caliber and you want to cram double that in a 40 caliber
tought it would be hilarious to see a hunter carry literally 1.4 kilograms of bullets on them
rigid basalt
whats the point ?
hunt doesnt follow the rules of physics on bullets look at the other silenced weapons
sick anvil
they are bullshit too
rigid basalt
and the centenial is already the least used weapon in the game if it is silenced with poison amo it could atleast be used as a silent bosskiller
cause at the moment there is no reason to use it with poison amo at all
sick anvil
the reason why cent is not used because its in the corner with all other medium ammo picking schnoz berries out of their nose
keen bolt
XDDDDD
sick anvil
giving the ammo class another gun that is useless wont fix shit
sick anvil
Medium needs a damage buff at distance on basic ammo .
Not base damage buff . damage retention . no amount of gimmick ammo will fix the issue with medium being literally the weird uncle at thanks giving dinner
keen bolt
Exactly
sick anvil
Even giving cent high explosive incendiary Armor penetrator ammo would not fix the issue
keen bolt
Base damage retention
sick anvil
and yes there is such thing