feedback-discussion

[keen bolt]

"Never got colonised" be proud of it they would say

While I agree it's a thing to be proud of it's not a reason to not study it

[dense fjord]

Honestly you write and comprehend at a high level so I’d be proud of it if I were you@keen bolt

[sick anvil]

I can only agree on the level of English

[keen bolt]

Thanks guys

I hope I could get better at it one day tbh

[sick anvil]

Just keep on using it and you will get better

I always recommend if you want to improve watch movies and series in English with no subtitles .
And always remember

[keen bolt]

That's actually a good advice

Many people don't try because they would be laughed at

But that's everything when you start out

[dense fjord]

@keen bolt where are you from?

I’m from Florida

[keen bolt]

I'm from Thailand actually

[dense fjord]

You write better than some of the people born here 🤣

[keen bolt]

(yes that Thailand)

[dense fjord]

That’s awesome

[keen bolt]

Ladyboy intensifies XD

[dense fjord]

I’ve always wanted to visit Thailand

[late wind]

Is there another Thailand I'm unaware of?

[dense fjord]

🥴

[keen bolt]

A lot of people confuses between Thailand and Taiwan

[sick anvil]

That is true

[keen bolt]

To be honest I wanted to go to America atleast once in my lifetime

I wasn't actually a 'true' fps player

I got into Hunt because I'm interested in the firearm of the era

And you best believe me I am still fixing my K/D I destroyed since early Hunt (when I got it)

[sick anvil]

Do not worry about KDA if you put in enough hours it will eventually not matter anyways

[keen bolt]

I literally have like 0.2 K/D at my Lowest

[sick anvil]

And ?

[keen bolt]

Thousands of deaths lol

[sick anvil]

do you have fun ?

[keen bolt]

That I only started to catch up just yesterday (yes finally 1.0)

You bet I did have fun with Hunt

[sick anvil]

Then KDA is irelevant

[keen bolt]

Nothing like blasting someone with a Winfield or iconic Rival

I was overjoyed when new army dropped

[sick anvil]

my first 600 hours in hunt i played BH mostly SOLO thus my KD was 0.66 . it took 1100 hours to dig my self out the 2K deaths

[keen bolt]

Exactly this lol

[dense fjord]

Was that you on Reddit? Lol

[keen bolt]

Guns I wish was in hunt is

1. Krag
2. Winchester Hotchkiss
3. Shotgun derringer (probably not era appropriate tho)

[keen bolt]

Not me if It posts about k/d 😅

[dense fjord]

Kd truthfully doesn’t matter

Neither does elo really

[late wind]

Kd being pretty much the sole influence on elo is very dumb.

[keen bolt]

I actually love to fight 6 stars so sbmm was turned off for me

[sick anvil]

Sharps-Borchardt Model 1878

[sick anvil]

KDA is not taken in to consideration of the ELO its a chess system

[keen bolt]

Eh I think I suggested this one before!

[late wind]

Can you spell it out for me if I'm wrong then? Because it looks pretty much like kd.

Borchardt C93 please.

[dense fjord]

@late wind look at the new version of medium slot rifle buff@hot vigil

[keen bolt]

My peak was 6 stars - I was 0.7 K/D back then

It depends a lot on current performance I think

Sometimes you die to bs or ambush and right down to 4 stars

[sick anvil]

MMR / ELO was taken from the chess ranking system where new player get assigned a point number if you go to a same rating player and win your score gains if you lose you lose points . each bracket has a range if you fall bellow the range you go down a rating if you go up you go up a rating .
if you go up against some one in a higher bracket and lose you lose less point but can win much more points
if you go up against some one in a lower bracket your win gains small lose big

[late wind]

See I like that wording because it doesn't suggest that such a buff will subsequently rule out any uppercut nerfs.

[dense fjord]

My peak was 2.52 6 stars

[keen bolt]

Most memorable name moment - got 1 tapped by Diiba

[late wind]

Thank you for the explanation.

[hot vigil]

Seems fine, again, I have a hard time to favour anything obrez.

[dense fjord]

But if I cared about kd I think it might be 5 or something more sweaty

[sick anvil]

I think the base number is in the 3 star bracket

[keen bolt]

I think they should add 7 stars

Like more clearly define low 5 and high 5

Because sometimes you get lucky once in 5 star and you're secretly high 5 and gets to fight 6 involuntarily

But welp you just get slap back to low 5 so no problem except destroyed mood lol

[sick anvil]

The base number should be 2450 and you gain some points based on who you kill

[dense fjord]

I’ve seen someone say there should be 7 stars and I agree but you’ll still get big elo disparity matchups because of population on some regions I guess

[keen bolt]

Especially in Asia yes

I actually hope they don't ping lock Oceania-Asia

Oca server is sad...like straight up sad in terms of player base

[sick anvil]

Oceania is money making machine

[keen bolt]

Eh?

[sick anvil]

If you play in the middle of the day Central EU time on OCE you can go literally grab 50 hunters money bonus and get about 70K HD in about 4 hours

Bomb lance stan shot

mostly servers are empty around that time

[keen bolt]

Lmaoooo I see

Make sense!

Once I go QuickPlay in oca and waiting for 10 min for a guy to pick up 4th one

I'm pissed noone did so I just grab it

And it announced that I was the winner

That's the most hilarious moment I have in QuickPlay

2nd favourite was teaming up in game to fight a 6 star

[sick anvil]

Good ol days when i used to QP

[keen bolt]

(yes we lose)🤣

Another was when I have a cowboy duel with the last guy on the server (yes I negotiated with him)

It was pre lobby stat so it's really sad I would never get to know him

[sick anvil]

I only wish they would remove MMR from QP

or separate it

[keen bolt]

It plays out like an action movie - he was there being the wellspring and I was there the 2nd that's when we heard noise of hunter coming from all direction and I teamed up with him

Chaotic fight as we fought for our lives against the whole server coming in non-stop

Literally back to back gun blazing like mindless action flicks

Callouts were made shots exchanged - and even body blocking

When the gun dies down we realised we just wiped the whole server and it was only us left

Man ...it was very sad

As we didn't want to kill eachother

But he insist we do because it wouldn't satisfy his honour if I would not fight and just give up

So we had a duel like the old western

Count to 3

And say our last farewell before we both draw our Pax

It was no doubt I raised that hunter to lv50 and retire him

It remained one of the most memorable hunt moment for me

Legit made me cry

[sick anvil]

My best match so far that i have a screenshot of

[keen bolt]

Holy shit 16 kills

That's impressive! Considering you're solo too

[sick anvil]

they just refused to stay dead

we were a duo

[keen bolt]

Still impressed just a little bit less XD

[sick anvil]

Solo best was 9

[keen bolt]

My solo best was only 6 lol

And dies to a guy who res at the end of the match (I'm so mad)

[sick anvil]

I do not play much solo a friend always plays with me

[dense fjord]

My best was killing all 10 other people in duos with my best friend at iron works lol

I usually play random trios

[keen bolt]

Iron works is fun to attack if they don't trap imo

[dense fjord]

I stood on the roof with a Winfield and just started picking teams out

Whole server was surrounding us but being passive and not fighting each other

[sick anvil]

on a night map and i had a sparks sniper

[keen bolt]

That's the worst mistake one can do tbh

[dense fjord]

There were all in range of darksight but just sitting and waiting

[keen bolt]

Wow... not even thinking of staying out of range...

[keen bolt]

Night sniper is impossible to counter XD

[sick anvil]

I do not stay at range

[dense fjord]

Yeah idk elo probably wasn’t too high on that match lol

[sick anvil]

i fight under 50 meters

[keen bolt]

That's impressive!

[dense fjord]

We didn’t have stars back then

[keen bolt]

Sometimes I dies to 3 stars when I was 5

[dense fjord]

It happens

Anyone can kill anyone with any weapon in the right circumstances

[keen bolt]

Sometimes I think fighting with 5 stars is even easier than 3 stars

Sometimes ...

A lot of times I die to 3 stars it wasn't their god tier aim but their unpredictability

Something like - They won't be that dumb to rush a shotgun do they? And they all come in 3v1

[sick anvil]

MMR is not really the representation of anything just a score who they died to and or who they killed in the recent matches . also QP can turbo fast derank you .
you got in a 6 star die to a 1 star and bam 3 star

you Q for solo and we got seal clubbing season open

[dense fjord]

Honestly I’ve had a few really good matches at ironworks

I like the layout of that compound

I like defending there

[sick anvil]

Best fights are at lawson

[keen bolt]

It's that match I said I killed half a lobby and they are all having uppers XD

And it was also the match I said my solo best was 6 kills

• I died to a guy who was revived (mosin spitzer)

[sick anvil]

I would dare to say its the best balanced for both sides defending and attacking

[keen bolt]

This is very true

I like the white building especially

The one with sniper (death trap) tower

[sick anvil]

that tower is literally a meme

[keen bolt]

Yup!

I got in there 1 time

And got headshot instantly

It's even worse than Healing water tower

Or the one in Dasale church

[sick anvil]

Its that bad because its 4 way open

[keen bolt]

And no hard cover

[sick anvil]

you would close close one side up and it becomes a much better spot

and the funniest is you would have to close the one facing Nicol prisson

and that is the side that covers the biggest range

In general I do not like any compound on Desalle

[keen bolt]

Really? I thought it was most well balanced and more spacious according to dev

(they intended to make attacking easier?)

I have a weird feeling about them and now I see that atleast I'm not alone

Couldn't figure out why I don't like them but really don't

[sick anvil]

Intentions might have been right. but to many of the compounds have buildings that are virtually bullet proof and have choke points to enter

Upper Desalle its the bank 6 entry points but only 1 has any visibility in

Lower desale sallon , more entry points but majority of them are easily covered by one person

to be honest the best on that map is Forked river

[keen bolt]

Least favourite - Moses

Best - Upperdaselle

Imo

[sick anvil]

Worst of all is Prison

[keen bolt]

Oh dear god

[sick anvil]

it takes 2 traps to literally to stop any one to get even close

[keen bolt]

That damn place

[sick anvil]

Upper desale bank is strong on defense

you got way to defend any direction

[keen bolt]

I have a infinite res problem there one time

[sick anvil]

King snake is on the other side strong on defense but only if you run DW or Shotguns

[keen bolt]

I wish they would have completely 'urban' 'alpine' or 'mine' ma0

Map

[sick anvil]

i would first like them fixing desalle

in terms of terain smoothing and hit box smoothing

Rocks on the ground can desync you when you are desynced and the server decides you were in the air while you shoot because you stand on a rock your shot is sent to narnia

and many objects have sticking out geometry that desycns you

that alone would make the map 50% better

[keen bolt]

Xd

Stillwater bayou is my favourite map

It looks unbalanced at hindsight

But was actually the most balanced imo

[sick anvil]

Stillwater outside of Blanket Gravy is mostly balanced

[keen bolt]

Which one is Blaked Gravy?😅

[sick anvil]

Blanchette graves

[keen bolt]

Ah that one

Why do you think is unbalanced

[sick anvil]

If boss is in the church building 3 entry points one window 2 doors 3 constantina bombs and you just wait it out

windows are blocked off thus no way to see in

[keen bolt]

I love to attack this compound tho

Traps however easily turned it into stalemate

Like another compound which is underground (not pitching but can't remember the name)

[sick anvil]

Madona Madre

Chapel

[keen bolt]

Not that one either

[sick anvil]

still water

[keen bolt]

THIS

This one

[sick anvil]

has the same problem as Blanket

Chapels rework fixed allot of the issues with it

[keen bolt]

If a team decided to camp down it's literally a complete halt

Just like the church yes

[sick anvil]

Still water needs a rework , same does blanket

[keen bolt]

Thankfully they don't spawn extract at Stillwater

I can pull a 'I'm off now' trick on that one

[sick anvil]

there is one extract and spawn near

off to the woods

[keen bolt]

It would leads to them going out and into the woods

Which is prime ambush area

Some extraction on other compound tho ... You really can't pull off either way else they extract

[sick anvil]

to bad i am to stubborn to fall back

i will rather try to snipe them while they are down there

[keen bolt]

I did snipe someone through the entrace before

And then ... of course

Dies to instakill trap

[sick anvil]

Traps are my cryptonite

i feel like am magnetically attracted to traps even if you would place it in a place no one ever goes i would probably get killed by it

[keen bolt]

Do you believe me that when I play shotgun I don't trap entrances unless it's red bear trap?

I think trap goes against Idea of camping in a lair with Shotgun

[sick anvil]

You most definitely are thinking in a practical way

[keen bolt]

Ok it might sound weird but here's the logic

If a rifle/sniper team feel confident or frustrated enough they will try to get inside even if they are outgunned

So let them

If you place trap?

No sniper with more than 3 working braincells will ventured in

And they will camp 100m with scope

Cause why would they get in

They'll just die

[sick anvil]

I guess i lack the brain cells to not push in

[keen bolt]

XD

Aggressor Reward for you

[sick anvil]

I guess so i should probably run iron sights but i love my sparks sniper just too much

[keen bolt]

Man Sniper sparks aren't my cup of tea

But my god people who can use it

Use it really good

I don't even contest their range cause I'll just die

[sick anvil]

thought i have hit some one a head shot 450 meters i rarely use it at range

[keen bolt]

Best insult I ever heard on hunt was by 2 teams outside of boss lair I'm camping

[sick anvil]

they were just way to stubborn to move away and i just kept shooting at them

[keen bolt]

Yeah ofc it got banned by the server

[sick anvil]

when they finally decide to move we fight in darin ship yard

[keen bolt]

Darin is sparks playground for me idk why

I use it more effectively than anything else in that compound

Coming from a guy who think sparks is meh lol

[sick anvil]

this is the shot

[keen bolt]

Hell ...yeah

450m snipe!

[sick anvil]

yes sadly that is 80dmg to head

[keen bolt]

I love these shots - while not game changing it's certainly impressive

[sick anvil]

my partner was at darin killing the boss

i was at pelican shooting at people at king snake

[keen bolt]

A lot of headshots in lower elo I have come to notice - cause the people don't respect the gun and overextend themselves

[sick anvil]

i just wanted to annoy them

[keen bolt]

As a military trained guy. 400m shot would be damned hard if not impossible for me without any kind of optics

[sick anvil]

i can only think of one kind of iron sights that can work at those ranges

[keen bolt]

Aperture sight?

[sick anvil]

yap

[keen bolt]

Knew it...

[sick anvil]

the ones that used to be mounted on sharps rifles

[keen bolt]

Wonder why they didn't give it to em in Hunt

[sick anvil]

cause it is very tought to make them work in game

as you notice every game uses ghost rings

[keen bolt]

Ghost rings?

[sick anvil]

What the Winfield Apeture is closer to a ghost ring

than an acutal apeture

the hole is simply too big

on ghost rings while you aim you see a ring that is more or less in your peripheral vision and you are focused on front sight target picture

[keen bolt]

Ah I see

[sick anvil]

this sight picture does not make the target look closer to you

while apeture you see nothing just a sharp ring front sight

[keen bolt]

This tho

[sick anvil]

ghost ring

[keen bolt]

Ah the HK33

Wait it might not be

[sick anvil]

another example

[keen bolt]

What will an aperture looks like tho

[sick anvil]

for long range you would use the fine or the medium

at precision rifles the fine would be even smaller

[keen bolt]

Hmmm

[keen bolt]

Yeah I see it make sense why the game didn't get an actual aperture in

[sick anvil]

i shot apeture sights on target rifles

and it is literally imposible to take a photo of the sight picture

because only the human eye can adapt to it

the front sight

[keen bolt]

I only shot HK33 and thought it was the "aperture" all along!

Dammit

Now I'm interested in shooting the real thing

[sick anvil]

its hard

it does literally amplify your breathing

the rifle feels like it sways 10 times worse than it is

[keen bolt]

I'm a bad shot compared to others in my unit so yes I'll probably hit nothing

[sick anvil]

today its mostly used for competition target shooting in the olympics

[keen bolt]

Make sense

[sick anvil]

i prefer the ghost rings

those make target acquisition very intuitive

[keen bolt]

You know what is the most ridiculous thing during time I was in the military

They never taught us to shoot full auto

[sick anvil]

that is not really ridiculous

[keen bolt]

I thought they would let us do so atleast once

Or taught

But no

Nada

Nothing

[sick anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQQAAsrGDQw

this might be the reason

the guy in the red shoots semi automatic rifle VS a full auto MP5

[keen bolt]

Dammit

No wonder

Actually this answer a lot of questions I've ever had about smgs

And development of ARs

[sick anvil]

the interesting thing is Jerry uses semi automatic 556 and the other gun is 9x19 so much less recoil

yet jerry gets a better grouping with semi automatic vs the full auto smg and shoots nearly as fast

[keen bolt]

To be fair it's Jerry but I see the point

[sick anvil]

okay that is a point jerry is not a regular mortal

[keen bolt]

Dude's a gun god

[sick anvil]

Do you remember bob munden ?

[keen bolt]

Nah

[sick anvil]

lemme show you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60C_p9D3PQM

this makes me every time smile ear to ear

[keen bolt]

Oh dear lord XD

[sick anvil]

insane ?

[keen bolt]

Yeah

Literally blink of an eye

What do you think of Nagant revolver balance rn btw

[sick anvil]

the regular one ?

or the officer

[keen bolt]

Regular

[sick anvil]

its a niche gun

[keen bolt]

How

I think it's Pretty crap

[sick anvil]

it unlocks you the silinced version

and that is actually pretty fun to play with

yo can either use it as a mob cleaner

or you can use it paired with a nitro

you stay quiet untill you right up their butt and then the panic

[keen bolt]

Oh

[sick anvil]

if you approach a boss liar with out making any other sound than mele and nagant silinced

the enemy gets very agressive

and then as they approach bam first shot fired nitro

now the team is in panic

[keen bolt]

Lmao the strats

Btw what do you think of making it 'ammo' gun

[sick anvil]

like ammo reserve

works for compact

with basic ammo it not much

add to the regular HW ammo and it becomes a force

[keen bolt]

Aka give it Every special ammo available on pistol to it

So it stacks ammo for other gun

Or used in niche situation

[sick anvil]

i would not give it XPLOsive

besides that why not

[keen bolt]

Not that one obviously

But eh like

If it had all the ammo types

It could be a niche pistol throughout the prestige

Help me with the wording if you would

[sick anvil]

Inci and FMJ would definetly give it more versatility

on the other hand you get prec and Prec dead eye which are strong guns

where FMJ might be a bit too strong

[keen bolt]

Then exclude fmj and explo

But arguably tho Fmj on the Prec deadeye would give it very high versatility

[sick anvil]

probably

[lunar kettle]

Just as an idea:
Give it incen. With incen you can pair it with bornheim match for more ammo instead of the costy LeMat.

Bornheim Match Incen + Dual Nagant Incen

Same as it is right now for HV

[keen bolt]

Title: Nagant 1895 Single action special ammo buff

• does not work on officer
  Nagant pistol in single action variant are the bread and butter for when you first Prestige. It's variants are also very niche and can be used throughout the whole wipe but they are outclassed by most other pistol in the game and some player prefer to outright skip them for the Scottsfield and its Variants. I hope that by allowing wide selection of Special ammo it can retain the niche of being ammo pool or situation pistol throughout the prestige.

Allows

• Incendiary
• Dum Dum
• FMJ
• HV
• Poison

Still doesn't allow explosive ammo because that would not make sense on a .32 pistol

Anyone would word this differently?

[sick anvil]

only songle = to single it looks fine to me

[keen bolt]

Lmao

I Choke on water

[sick anvil]

sorry

gimme a sec let me think

[keen bolt]

Nah no worries it was funny typo

[sick anvil]

Edited ,
Nagant pistol in single action variant is the bread and butter after Prestige. It's variants are also very niche and can be used throughout the whole prestige but they are outclassed by most other pistol in the game and some players prefer to outright skip them for the Scottsfield and its Variants. I hope that by allowing wide selection of Special ammo it can scratch the niche of being universal ammo pool for any situation throughout prestige .

just a light tweak

[keen bolt]

Works!

Yup posted

[keen bolt]

That's the idea!

Man I hope Crytek adds it as soon as possible in this one lmao

[sick anvil]

Takes patience

Medium ammo Lever action was requested a trillion times for a long time and it took time to add

[keen bolt]

Tbh I'm just excited for fire ammo (and I'll watch the wo- those hunter burn)

I think fmj would make it compete with other pistol on more equal ground ngl

[sick anvil]

fire bombs still work better

[keen bolt]

Especially the Deadeye Nagant would get much needed range boost at the cost of being even slower velocity

[sick anvil]

yett the bomb at enemy shoot them after they get hit by the bomb

[keen bolt]

No joke - Hell fires especially

[sick anvil]

i use regular fire bombs

[keen bolt]

But would you believe me that incendiary ammo are good long range ammo

[sick anvil]

yep i died enough times to incendiary ammo

[keen bolt]

I just find it funny when people overextend against winny at long range

Only to realise they are - in fact... On fire

[sick anvil]

Most of special ammo that is meant to be more PVE works better in PVP than they thought

[keen bolt]

Exactly 😂

Especially the penny shot

That thing turns small shotgun into 1 tap Machine

[sick anvil]

They should ad more DIY shotgun ammo

like Wax slugs and wad cut slugs

dont know how to balance them but they would be fun

or even something silly like posion darts

12Ga as long it fits in a wad you can shoot it

[keen bolt]

What are Wax Slugs and Wad cuts?

[sick anvil]

Wax slugs are , you open a buckshot and pour liquid wax in it let it cool now you have one solid projectile that breaks uppon impact and creates a nasty wound

[keen bolt]

Okay that one sounds really nasty

[sick anvil]

Wad cuts i made a typo it should be cut shell slug . where you cut the shell so it shoots out with the projectiles turning it to a slug

[keen bolt]

Hmmm

Idk if it would work as paper cartridge is a thing in Hunt

Or maybe it isn't about the cartridge?

[sick anvil]

it works on paper the same way as on plastic

the only thing is plastic shells put the gun under more wear

paper is actually better on this

[keen bolt]

Woah

[sick anvil]

since the plasti shell is more rigid the the propelant creates more pressure to push it through the whole barrel

while paper is less rigid it can more easily being compressed

[keen bolt]

I see

What do you think of this idea then

Metal case 12 gauge shotgun shell

[sick anvil]

those were actually used in russia

they were less durable than plastic

and very expensive

[keen bolt]

I mean in Hunt

[sick anvil]

the only thing i do not know how would the change things

[keen bolt]

I mean I know it doesn't work that way irl here's my idea

It increase buckshot accuracy by 1 tier

It's a special ammo ofc

[sick anvil]

I would make that a veapon variant that only can shoot buckshot

and run a chocke

would be for example only Caldwell and Romero

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_(firearms)

[keen bolt]

Yup

[sick anvil]

and chokes were in use at the time period

would be a variant restricting ammo types that can not work with the choke lets say modified one

that would make the shotgun more lethal but would require more precise aim

[keen bolt]

Yup

I just think it would be great if there's an ammo or something that makes the rival and to some extent small specter be more accurate

[keen bolt]

@worthy knoll I thought it was a good idea no?

[worthy knoll]

Simple: giving one weapon basically all special ammo is bad.
I do admit that the Nagant has bad special ammo, since poison is only useful on the silencer version and high velocity is basically used as an ammo pouch.

Also, there is no sense in only giving it to the normal Nagant, not the officer. It is the same gun, with just a little more complicated mechanism. You use the same ammo.

[keen bolt]

It's not only the bad special ammo that provides the low pick rate

The base stat of the gun is very poor

I could see why as it is a level 1 gun

And it's pretty cheap

It fires at the same speed as a Specter/Uppercut

And the velocity on it while not poor is not fast

It has every reason to get a buff

But if it got a statistical buff

It could go into conflict with other gun

Now with almost all Special ammo allowed on it

It could be really versatile

Thus applicable to various situation

As an early gun it will give it an advantage it needs to be competitive

Some gun could be competitive without being useful - (in some sense) and if Nagant are to be used as 'ammo pouch' this is also the more reason it should get special ammo

[worthy knoll]

The gun is simply not supposed to be that good. It is the starter gun.

Real competitivenesd comes with the precision/precision deadeye (+high velocity). Then it's "budget solid".

[keen bolt]

Yes and with FMJ or Dumdum and even fire ammo will make it even more applicable to more situation

Solidifying its niche as a gun that can take on any situation

If you play to its advantage

[worthy knoll]

Also making it an ammo pouch does get no gun any credit and should not be it's "main use".
This is why I will always be against pax getting high velocity since that will not give it a niche but degrade it.

[keen bolt]

But will it only be an ammo pouch?

I don't think so

Having early gun with dum dum to pressure people is very strong when said gun has high capacity and pickup rate

With fmj it will contend medium range - to a degree

And if Deadeye nagant got FMJ?

It might be the next big thing

[worthy knoll]

FMJ is unnecessary since most people will just pay 2 dollars more to get that on the conversion pistol (and when you have unlocked it on the Nagant you surely have the conversion too). And since that gun is all around better, 2 dollars are nothing.

Fire ammo is a meme

Poison is anti AI,so silencer.

Deadeyes Nagant with FMJ is too slow.

Dum Dum is the only ammo that could work but then the officer must get it too for consistency reasons.

[keen bolt]

Fire ammo also deals with ai

And allow PvP Potential better than Poison at longer ranges

[worthy knoll]

But very loud.... It is a meme

[keen bolt]

Silenced one?

Also silencer fmj?

The fking potential on this thing will only be limited to only imagination

This is what I'm aiming it to be

Or silencer dum dum - tell me that's not a strong contender

There are simply so many outplays possibility and many combo - meme ammo + meme Variants who know it might be strong

[worthy knoll]

As I said dumdum could be good but maybe even too strong. No gun so far that has silencer has dumdum.

And yes the silencer with fire ammo (see Winfield silencer) kills AI loudly since the AI burning screams audibly.

[keen bolt]

Within one compound yes

But I've seen the possibility with other variants

Deadeye could apply burn with precision over distance

Because the extra zoom it gave

Without constraints of rate of fire

The mix and match on this pair could be really good considering pros and cons

Or if we're talking about ammo pouch side of things

Very small number of pistol have the ammo

Only Bornheim and Lemat does

And Nagant would be a great extra for burning Winfield user

Or an addition to Bornheim match with incendiary

It really gave the choice to otherwise degraded and often pissed on and thrown away when you get it pistol like the Nagant

If it's not good atleast it will be useable

Another big plus for a reason to use legendary skin on them once you ran out of free ones XD

[worthy knoll]

Burning needs two hits. Which usually kill anyway. If you want to do this on range the Winfield marksman is the go to.
Otherwise there is a reason only the bornheim is a good choice for fire ammo. A two-tap does not kill with it.

Tbh the Nagant is a good fanning pistol.

[unborn smelt]

Well the broheim never kills in 2 bodyhits anyway

So the burning is more likely to occur

[sullen crypt]

Even with burning ammo, i still think it'd be bad a choice tbh

[worthy knoll]

Bornheim was nerfed into oblivion....as crytek always does
But just ask people to consider needing the mosin or the Uppercut and people riot.

The bornheim should be cheaper, HomeReel made a good video about that.

Long story short: Bornheim is always bad and needs a 3 Tap

[unborn smelt]

Yeah not saying bornheim is good...
But lets not forgez it was nerfed on popular demand - people went apeshit, somewhat rightfully so, when it was strong in the past.

[silver ermine]

ok

i believe some guns should be better than others. it would be boring if all guns were compleatly balanced

what do you guys think of having a berthier obres deadeye?

[vague patio]

if one gun is constiently better then all other, its basically the only one to pick

that is truly boring

[unborn smelt]

Better than others and consistently better than all others is a huge diffrence

[silver ermine]

the game has a money system for balance. i personally think when weapons are nerfed they should have their price reduced acordinly

[vague patio]

thats the thing, i want balancing as, in some situations one gun is stronger

but there is alot of not that

basically everything long ammo

consistently better in range, damage, pen and velocity

at least with compact you can argue about rof, but mediumammo is simply outclassed

[unborn smelt]

That wouldnt be so bad if people wouldnt go apeshit the moment smth with good rof gets strong

[silver ermine]

well theres a reason mosin costs more than springfield i guess

[unborn smelt]

Still weapons shouldnt be too strong just for being expensive

A small but noticable diffrence is fine

[vague patio]

if you get the feeling the wepaon is doing the carrying and not you, the player. Its starts to get boring

thats the main reason i dont play mosin or uppercut that often

[unborn smelt]

But if smth is too strong but only "balanced" by cost we have the Dolch situation

[silver ermine]

like i get the nitro being 1000 its one shot from 75 meters to the chest or something. but dolche is kinda bad now.

[silver ermine]

whats your mmr if you dont mind me asking?

[vague patio]

uppercut outvalue basically over half of sidearms anyway

i dunno, mmr changes too often and i havent played for a while

[silver ermine]

ok so your not a solid 6 start then?

[unborn smelt]

Dolch is shit now - for the money invested,because just about nobody wanted to play an uphill battle against people throwing money at their lack of skill

People want the same for Nitro shredder now

[vague patio]

i dont think it matter what mmr i am tho

[unborn smelt]

And compared to what it was before the avto suffered the same fate

[silver ermine]

it does coz if you think mosin and uppercut is carrying you anmd you need to nerf yoursself then people would expect you to be 6star

[silver ermine]

like i hardly see avtomat and dolche in the game

[unborn smelt]

Yes exactly...

Those guns were examples of balancing by price almost exclusively

[silver ermine]

same with duelies. like they arent good. no one uses them.

[worthy knoll]

People go apeshit as soon as something comes that could break up the long ammo meta.

I think the Mosin is strong, but fine.
The Uppercut on the other Hand.... I hate the fact that this gun can one Tap you up to 40m when you were downed once and lost 25.. while a full rifle, the Centennial can't!

[unborn smelt]

Smol correction - uppercut ohk's a 125 hunter at ~25m

[vague patio]

basically that

[unborn smelt]

Not 40

It is long ammo - but pistol long ammo drops at 20m

[vague patio]

@unborn smelt btw, was lurking chat yetserday night, did you two find out when winfield musket got added?

[unborn smelt]

Still agree with the sentiment tho

[unborn smelt]

Apparently 1.t.8

Bruh

I hate mobile

1.4.8

[worthy knoll]

Dolch should be 400. Would be fine around that but people rage as soon as you ask that... Also less damage than an old Revolver.

You read the text and it says "powerful German prototype pistol" and you realize it's just not.
It's almost like newer guns are not better than old revolvers...

[vague patio]

i do too

[silver ermine]

ranga do you think they wil add a berthier obress deadeye?

[vague patio]

wow, so i thought right

or almost

thoguht it was 1.4.7

[unborn smelt]

Dont think so

But its posible

[worthy knoll]

Wasn't the long ammo drop off starting at 40?

[unborn smelt]

But in general i think its highly unlikely

[vague patio]

not for the uppercut

it has a special curve

[unborn smelt]

Long ammo rifle and pistol have diffrent drop

Long rifle ammo at 40m

And long pistol at 20m

They changed that a while back

In the same patch the uppercut lost the 250m hs range

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, still stupid that it can one Tap you farther then a centennial since medium drops at 10?20?

[vague patio]

20

[worthy knoll]

What is it now? Something like 190?

[unborn smelt]

Cent cant at all

[unborn smelt]

96m

[vague patio]

only 90something

[unborn smelt]

1m more than a winnie

Essentially they axed its hs range massively

Bit bodyshots its still a better vetterli in a smol slot

[silver ermine]

upper cut heradshot range feels good to me as it is now

[worthy knoll]

Ah yes because of 123 dmg... So stupid. All in all the guns should all be re-evaluated stat and price wise in a big update.

[vague patio]

id actually dont have a problem with uppercut having a rediculous headshot range. cause that is actually a hard shot to land.But the one down body tap is just bs for what the uppercut is

[silver ermine]

yeah

[silver ermine]

one down body tap is 25 meters rang said

[worthy knoll]

It basically means if you lost 25 and the team inside the boss lair has an uppercut you are at a Great disadvantage when you Push... Meaning sometimes I would not push at all then.

[vague patio]

half the matches, you can basically extract if you eccidentally lost a little health chunk

[silver ermine]

its not that bad it has to be a direct chest shot at 25 meters. even a sparks wont kill if its an arm shot

[vague patio]

its still one slot

with better handling than any sawn of rifle

best damage, damage rentention and velocity on revolver

rof holding it back, but not by much

except in when you want to spam

[silver ermine]

centenial should have better hip fire with levering.

like more acurate

right now levering with centenial is useless

why does scotfield have lower rof than uppercut? i dont get it lol

[vague patio]

it isnt tho

uppercut is the slowest rof revolver with 40 rpm

mind you, still the fastest longammo gun except avto

scotfield has 41 rpm

[keen bolt]

tied to nagant with 40 rpm

[vague patio]

yeagood ok, forget the fucking nagant

i literaly dont know its stats cause its never worth it

i know damage, cause same as officer

i really wish theyd something with the base nagant

itslike literallly the worst gun

[worthy knoll]

We've come full circle xD

[worthy knoll]

A big target area on an easy to shoot range especially in compounds.

[worthy knoll]

More or less yes

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[keen bolt]

True ...for most gun but Nagant and Bornheim rarely does kill in 2 hits

[keen bolt]

Then could I get an upvote 😁

[worthy knoll]

Nagant can, as can officer. The bornheim needs 3 shots even at 10m.
It is all around the worst

[keen bolt]

XD

Yes but it's also the fastest

It would be ok if not for the 200$

And abysmal ammo pool

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[worthy knoll]

As i said, search HomeReels video about that on YouTube it is good.

[keen bolt]

I already made a point there

that I agree

it is not ok by price

[feral crag]

Dolch would be easy to balance, too. If you've ever actually used one in real life (I own one), you know the Mauser C96 has recoil like a revolver, due to the high bore-axis. In the pistol configuration, you have to reset on target after every shot. Like a Caldwell Uppercut or Schofield or the like. That, by itself, would have balanced the gun, and been more realistic, without all the over-the-top nerfs Crytek did to the poor Dolch.

[worthy knoll]

It's a shame. As s German I'd like to use an iconic German gun like this. But the price and it being not worth the money makes me abstain from it.

[fluid locust]

"poor dolch" it deserved everything it got

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[hexed whale]

Dolch is still pretty strong imo. Wouldnt really take it over an uppercut most of the time. I find the dolch p to still be insane and worth for the extra 40 bucks. Definitely didnt need to be nerfed as hard as it was though I agree

[dense fjord]

Dolch got nerfed too hard

Sad

[unborn smelt]

I think theres 2 sides to every coin - including the dolch

On one hand fighting the Dolch felt super bad because you knew the enemy threw money at the issue and needed accordingly less skill.

This imo definetly is a reason for changes

But on the other hand this also foesnt mean it was imbalanced either - it was balanced by cost and low qol

[dense fjord]

To me that was part of the thrill/reward. It feels extra good to kill someone using a very powerful gun like the dolch was especially when my whole loadout costs less than that 1 gun haha

[fluid locust]

So you mean a power trip

[dense fjord]

And yeah balance is kind of a multifaceted thing I guess

[fluid locust]

If you want that go play cod or something lol

[dense fjord]

?

[dense fjord]

What’s the logic behind that?

[fluid locust]

Cod always has a broken gun (or several) that makes everything else look useless

[dense fjord]

In hunt showdown I kill someone with dolch they lose that one forever and I burn it so nobody else picks it up

[fluid locust]

That was basically the dolch

[dense fjord]

Can’t do that in call of duty right

I mostly agree, I hate dual wield and avtomat. I think most semi auto/fast fire rate guns got a bit too nerfed/fear balanced lol

Like officer

[fluid locust]

Oh I misread what you said

[dense fjord]

It’s still good but not very appealing to me overall now

[fluid locust]

I thought you meant the dolch was good to use because it cost more than the someone's whole loadout

[dense fjord]

That’s fine I just think with the right balancing tweaks (small buffs) for certain guns we’d see more weapon variety and a healthier balance.

[fluid locust]

And dolch was prevalent waaaaay too long

[dense fjord]

Like how many people you see taking bornheim

[fluid locust]

It was literally why medium ammo got fucked

As a class

Just because of the dolch

[dense fjord]

Only bornheim match with HV to headshot lol

Never really see base or even extended bornheim except in quick play

Medium ammo rifles should get buffed to 30 meters drop off

That would make them sooo much better

And less far from meta

[dense fjord]

Yeah dolch should have never been medium ammo

Making it special ammo was the right choice.

[fluid locust]

Medium ammo dolch gives me PTSD

It literally had no recoil

Not even an exaggeration

I shot it at a wall and it straight up didn't move

[unborn smelt]

No its not

Dolch became special ammo pretty fast and thus was not tied to medium ammo anymore

The biggest issue medium ammo had/still has is how little room is actually used for balancing imo

[fluid locust]

It was before

[unborn smelt]

Whenever fast Rof is involved people throw a tantrum which makes it very unreliable for balance (as high rof weapons are often wrongly called op), long amm os by design meant to have superior dmg, range, pen, velocity

[fluid locust]

Vett didn't have reserve ammo like at all

Had like 12 bullets or something lol

[unborn smelt]

Pretty sure it had enough before too

People bought vetterlis to feed the dolch with ammo

[fluid locust]

Nope. Didn't have more than the pax. Other than what was in the gun

You could bring pax or dolch and have same ammo

[unborn smelt]

Yeah i need to see patchnotes to believe that

[dense fjord]

I really like the Vet having as much ammo as it does currently

[fluid locust]

I remember that because sometimes I brought pax with fanning to feed the dolch lol

[dense fjord]

I think the centennial could use a bit more reserve

[fluid locust]

And it had same ammo

[unborn smelt]

Issue is people, even reputable ones also remember nitro having current rival ironsights

Yet the devs confirmed it never had

[fluid locust]

It just didn't have blur before

And less zoom

[unborn smelt]

So remembering is a pretty unreliable source

[fluid locust]

I mean the dolch was band of my existence

And I mean you can look for patch notes I'm pretty sure I'm right

Vett had either 12 or 13 reserve.

It was enough to make me bring pax for ammo because I didn't like vettereli at the time

And the ammo was either the same or a bullet more

[unborn smelt]

Long ammo back then categorically had 15 rounds total no matter the gun (also the uppercut being 6/9 is a remnant of that) where as compact had thirty something iirc

[dense fjord]

Honestly current nitro is fine if you can quick scope but I kinda miss old nitro sights, just make it like a 2,400$ gun or something ridiculous.

[unborn smelt]

So vetterli being only 12 spare sounds pretty wrong to me

[fluid locust]

I mean you could look it up lol

[unborn smelt]

Sadly i cant do it very easily

Storm fried my router so i'm on mobile

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Description: a Tool that can make blunt damage on range.  A windup and a slight stun effect ( little bit movement reduction and sight like poisoned MAYBE ) could be possible. Refill dont know yet, maybe with special ammo boxes ( i think refill at tool boxes would be too bad if you cant pick back up the stones ).```

[dense fjord]

@queen jungle spitzer fans will not like your suggestion lol

[unborn smelt]

Spitzer isnt exactly very powerful either...

Mostly because ot trades dmg

[steady hamlet]

Were slingshots even a thing in the 1890's

[unborn smelt]

And in hunts recent past pretty much none of the "just click heads" type weapons (like cent, springie, Bornheim or well spitzer) worked very well, while bodytap weapons are the most popular

[unborn smelt]

Yes

[steady hamlet]

Alright apparently it may have been made in around 1888 or so

[hot vigil]

bruh, sling shots goes back to Ancient Rome.

[unborn smelt]

Well the Y shaped slingshot maybe

[steady hamlet]

Slings go back to ancient rome

Sling shots, the very specific kind of rubber you need to pull back and launch stones, are fairly recent

[unborn smelt]

The actual sling type is much much older

[steady hamlet]

You need a very specific kinda rubber to get this thing to not fuck up. A regular david and goliath sling doesn't need that. I believe those are just leather.

[unborn smelt]

The rubber kind is smth i wouldnt really trust for anything other than maybe a distraction

A proper sling however is pretty deadly and versatile in use

[steady hamlet]

Would be a neat way/system of throwing decoys but currently using your own hands is fine enough

I imagine if this was a singleplayer game or something the MC would use a slingshot to launch decoys or something to hit stuff, seems like the kinda neat thing that would be in a game

[unborn smelt]

Tbh i could see a sling for diffrent tactical uses - from distraction to increasing throw range, to if a sling ratherthan a sling shot, even somewhat lethal

[steady hamlet]

I'd be interested in seeing how they use a legit sling and stones.

Seeing a hunter prep a slingstone trying to kill me would be kinda funny till the fucker hits me in the head and I die

[unborn smelt]

Well it'd likely be an ambush weapon, or be used to launch other projectiles as rocks like incendiary or poison type projectiles

[steady hamlet]

It could have the same benefit silenced weapons do where its hard as absolute fuck to tell where its coming from

(Unless you're like, throwing flaming ones. There's probably a trail then)

[unborn smelt]

Heck it could even be used like a strangling weapon in melee

altho hunt lacks a takedown system to make that work well

[steady hamlet]

Put stone in sling, swing it around, you now have a bad flail

(I'm pretty sure this doesn't work as remotely good as I think it does, which is already kinda bad)

[karmic ivy]

Lol, so true.

[unborn smelt]

To be fair i might missremember too

Bit being movile only rn i cant verify

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[maiden pelican]

Was when the nerfed it beause of dolch, had 18 before I think

And that was when it headshot at 96 meters

[unborn smelt]

I know that it may have been diffrent way back then - but i dont ever remwmber it only havong 12 spare

18 i could see being true

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[karmic ivy]

ya, same, that is how I came to realize anyone can do it. I don't consider myself bad at remembering things, but memory, is strange stuff... sometimes it can be exacting, other times totally wrong.

[plush ledge]

@pliant lake Don't you worry any arm looks that way too on PC , we all got the same 2001 textures

[crystal plume]

Speak for yourself

Either way should be reported in the appropriate channel, #bug-reports-ps or #bug-reports-xbox

[plush ledge]

you mean I should report that I've low resolution arms on Billy every match no matter the settings?

[pliant lake]

Xbox issues? That topic does not work. No one can post I believe, redirects me to Hunt-general

[plush ledge]

the hands are fine tho , just the arms look like low res

[crystal plume]

You need the xbox role from #904820362313887744

[pliant lake]

I guess I am not the best with discord, either way I don’t have a chat option to report something there but the hunt team wrote to me in instagram and I put it on the feedback :/ hope they see it

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Boss concept: **The Sway**

Difficulty: Hard
Height: 9ft tall
Health: quite a bit

Resistant to:
- Melee damage
- Explosive damage
- Poison damage

Weaknesses:
- FMJ rounds
- Fire damage

Attacks: 
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-large shoulder mounted plate legs that cause melee damage

Rage Mode:
-Hangs from ceiling and rapid fires pistols (doing full damage)
-can charge and knock down players causing light bleed damage
-has a chance to throw hellfirebombs/sticks of dynamite

On banish:
-can drop 1 or both guns
-can drop an ammo box

Backstory: Arnold “Adder” Finch was once a gunslinger known for using poison in his guns and drinking snake venom in his whisky. Always used some sort of paralyzing poisons to bring his bounties in alive, on a hunt he was shot dead by his own partner by mistake.

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[faint sparrow]

@last meteor Why do you hate that?

@prime ibex This Is just my stupid opinion but if they were gonna add a new boss like that it'd be nice if it had it's own status effect instead of just poison since we already have the spider. Maybe more like so psychedelic drug, where if he hits you with his vomit you see monsters that arent there, maybe you can't tell the difference between team mates and enemies and some sort of visual effect

If that makes sense

[dense fjord]

What do you guys think about being able to choose between traits or a set number of trait points when buying a legendary hunter?

More user choice and not getting potentially useless traits for people that would prefer to spec themselves, while you can still have random generated ones too.

Maybe like 6-9 trait points if you choose that option

[gilded finch]

Dead game

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nerf shotguns ♥️ 
Now that slugs are in the game along with the addition of the slate it feels like everyone uses them. Everyone I talk to about the gameagrees shotguns are plagueing right now, and give easy low effort/skill kills. I'm tired of seeing everyone use them, and would honestly be satisfied with a slug nerf at the very least (or honestly their complete removal, they have no place in the game)```

[prime ibex]

@iron basin Keep your distance and use rifles then. Slug insta-kill range can only go so far at ~25m

[iron basin]

so they just hide in a building for 45 min?

😐

sure the instakill range is only 25 meters but it does tons of damage even past that

why should i use any other ammo

[prime ibex]

It's 2 shot beyond 25, that's 95% rifles in Hunt.

[iron basin]

Exactly

Why should something be the same as everything else but also one shot at close range

literally just makes it the best?

[prime ibex]

I use slugs and prefer to have 'em close enough, I don't go sniping with a shotgun. Wastes too much ammo.

[iron basin]

slugs are just too easy

[dense fjord]

Slugs don’t one tap to 25?

They almost do though

[iron basin]

if they can rival every other ammo while also one tapping close up I dont see any reason for them to exist

[prime ibex]

Even then, you have to hit your shots to perform effectively with the gun.

[iron basin]

No shit

that's every gun in the game

but it performs best when you do

[dense fjord]

Slow velocity, lower than most capacity, low reserve

[iron basin]

"low reserve" theyre already dead doesnt matter

[prime ibex]

Yea, so just don't miss then you're good lol

[dense fjord]

Bring something to rival them closer range or keep a distance if you know they have slugs?

[iron basin]

Like I said I'm not just going to take a shotgun because everyone else is using a shotgun

that is what starts big metas

[prime ibex]

It's rather easy to counter a shotgun, and it's either out smart, out gun, or range, or out hit them.

[dense fjord]

Bow, hand crossbow, X bow, throwing axe

Are all ohk options at decent range

[iron basin]

those are just worse than shotguns

they dont rival them

[dense fjord]

Just takes one good hit with any of them

[prime ibex]

...Yea they do?

[iron basin]

and slugs too

no they dont

in any world

[prime ibex]

Have crossbow full of explosive ammo, seems to oneshot on direct, or 2 shot on indirect.

[iron basin]

A one shot, super slow reload, weapon with drop does not rival shotgun slugs

at all

[prime ibex]

Playing smarter is always the way.

Be like playing Rust with crossbows with fire arrows.

[iron basin]

If I were to play smart I would just be taking shotguns and slugs every single round with a uppercut secondary.

Nothing tops that

[prime ibex]

I've done that, and still get out anything bud. Either be it a good shot from a pistol/rifle, or a good shot from a shotty.

[dense fjord]

Barley any drop in slug range atleast

Shotbolt

[prime ibex]

In the end it didn't matter cause I'm dead lol

[dense fjord]

I think shotbolt starts to drop at 40m

And ohk to chest at any range

[iron basin]

I mean i dont want to talk about skill issues here

Im just saying it says something if everyone in your community is running the same weapon with slugs

at least in 5-6 mmr

[dense fjord]

Berthier uppercut

[iron basin]

nah just uppercut

I dont need a primary with long

[prime ibex]

In a match for 4-6 stars, I witness an average of one person with range, and one person with CQC.

[dense fjord]

Nah there’s lots of good load outs

[iron basin]

Its a clear meta rn man

[prime ibex]

Then it comes to the people who try multiple things, either midrangers, snipers, shotgunner, bowmen, and etc.

It's one of the 2 metas

[iron basin]

The slate is guaranteed to get nerfed at some point here

and slugs shouldnt be far behind

[prime ibex]

The other meta is being a sniper, though I wouldn't call it much of a meta for either or. lol

[iron basin]

I just came to say it too

the more people who say it the faster it will happen

[dense fjord]

Slugs are fine

[iron basin]

👍 sure

[dense fjord]

Long ammo is still the meta

And slugs are very good too but they should be

Requiring hard aim and costing a premium

[prime ibex]

Half the time I hit someone with a slug, they are either barely alive, or lost half HP. Other half time it either kills, or hit reg doesn't work lol

[dense fjord]

I think slugs could be fine with a little price rebalancing

Like costing more on certain guns

[iron basin]

im convinced everything in the game needs to be worth at least double what it is

I have infinite money so easily

[prime ibex]

It's already 200. Just stocking up is spendy lol

[iron basin]

who actually goes broke

ever

[dense fjord]

Maybe 300$ on rival, specter, and terminus

400$ on slate and crown

[iron basin]

200 on rival

[dense fjord]

Money does matter for balancing

[dense fjord]

Lol

[iron basin]

its not as good as the others

[dense fjord]

It’s got the fastest follow up shot

[iron basin]

just use the romero

[dense fjord]

Most performance in an instant

[iron basin]

no need

[dense fjord]

It also has same range and damage on slugs as Romero

Romero could stay 200

[iron basin]

well then make the other ones 400

and slate and crown 500

[dense fjord]

That’s a lot

[iron basin]

they could be 1000 and I wouldnt care

[dense fjord]

Custom ammo that costs what a long ammo bolt action does

[dense fjord]

This makes me lose faith in even discussing slug balance with you

[iron basin]

?

Money is easy to get

if your not losing all your matches

[dense fjord]

It’s still a factor of balancing

[iron basin]

yeah

make them 1k then

[dense fjord]

That’s not a good idea

But you already know that

[iron basin]

like i said i never run out of money it might be a nice change of pace if everything was doubled or tripled

I play tarkov, and thats a game where money actually matters somewhat so it would interesting

[dense fjord]

Think about avtomat

[iron basin]

i mean they can just remove that from the game

only hackers use it

[dense fjord]

Arguably way stronger

[dense fjord]

They won’t

Even though I want them to remove it too

Avtomat really doesn’t belong in the game

In my opinion

[floral vapor]

@queen jungle But like… why? That just sounds annoying to both use and have used on you

Alternatively two shots from most rifles to the chest will put most hunters down for good

[worthy knoll]

My usual teammate does.
People can go broke of they not only recruit free hunters etc.

[iron basin]

i buy legendary hunters every match

cant imagine

[dense fjord]

It happens

Everyone is different

[worthy knoll]

Yeah good for you. Not everyone is an outstanding player.
Balance should not be a detriment to the worst players, everyone deserves to have fun with the game they bought.

[dense fjord]

Even the most skilled players can lose money on a match if they don’t survive.

[dense fjord]

As a 2.52 kd 6 star there was a time where I was still doing exceptionally well but I dropped from 270k to 260k cause of RNG like bounty rushing out while other teams spawn next to us and we fight it out with no bounty reward to get, or we don’t survive to extract even after killing multiple people. I know for a fact it can be easy to lose money just like it can be easy to gain money.

[iron basin]

thats exactly my point though "from 270 to 260"

[dense fjord]

I know a guy who went broke running mosin uppercut

[dense fjord]

Yeah but that’s not everyone’s experience

[iron basin]

it should, being bad should encourage getting better

[queen jungle]

Two reasons why

1. It would be very funny to see someone awkwardly shuffle into cover after being tagged
2. The knockdown mechanic is cool and needs to exist more IMO

[iron basin]

the worst players should be matched fairly sure, but playing awful shouldnt be rewarded

[dense fjord]

Or getting more defensive/careful and making game less fun for other people fighting them

Like guy in corner with crossbow afraid to make any sound/holding down random compound or building.

Bush snipers

Kd also contributes to problems

[floral vapor]

Stun mechanics stink

[iron basin]

agreed (sparks sniper 300 m away not even playing the game)

[hexed whale]

It depends on what you see as a problem. Has crytek ever come out and said “this is how you play the game?” “The objective of the game is x?”

[dense fjord]

I think your supposed to extract the bounty in the game mode called bounty hunt

[severe willow]

Gee thanks guys, I really appreciate loading into a game with my nitro class and then game literally dashboard crashes and I have to sit and wait 5 minutes to reconnect only for it to do that again. Zero other games have done this in the past!

[dense fjord]

As their intention

But I play for pvp and I know people all have different goals/play styles

I do go for bounty cause there tends to be pvp along the way but I’ve also chased shots away from bounty

[severe willow]

So there goes a level 34 hunter with a nitro class over 1200 hunt dollars. Appreciate the slap in the face

[dense fjord]

There’s nothing strictly forcing you to play objective though

[hexed whale]

Thats the point. For some people just going in and feeling like Chris Kyle is their shit and watching their kd go up is a dopamine hit. If thats how they want to play and crytek doesnt object to it then its a you problem not everyones problem

[dense fjord]

Happened to me once but I also got killed so minus kd as well lol

Yeah I don’t really judge

[hexed whale]

It is irritating as hell dont get me wrong

[dense fjord]

But I do think some play styles are more impressive than others

[hexed whale]

I hate those guys

[dense fjord]

Like it’s easy mode to be one of those guys but time consuming I guess

It has the best survival rate I’m sure

Hunt showdown sniper elite

[hexed whale]

Time consuming for no reward as well. Some guys go in and get 1 kill after 40min. Idk how youre happy with that but whatever floats your boat

[dense fjord]

A whole trio with Lebel marksman spitzer dolch P

[hexed whale]

I feel called out

[dense fjord]

Yeah couldn’t be me

Just not my idea of fun

[hexed whale]

Thats my favorite loady. But I always play medium range with it. I cannot sit back for more than 5 minutes before I get bored as hell

[dense fjord]

I’d rather pull off a risky play and kill 3 people in a minute or die trying

[hexed whale]

I do like the fact though that killing those kd farmers gives you a feeling like no other kill

They are the most rewarding and satisfying kills ever

[dense fjord]

I agree wholeheartedly

[hexed whale]

Kd farmer can get a little shit talk over voip. As a treat

[dense fjord]

The better or more sweaty/careful/defensive they are the more relieving it is to kill them lol

Neuron activation

That’s part of why I liked pre nerf dolch

[hexed whale]

Monke 🧠 OOooO aHaaa over their corpse

[dense fjord]

Killing people that used it felt amazing

Gamer god moment

[hexed whale]

Facts

[dense fjord]

Then burn it so it’s gone forever

[hexed whale]

Thats about how im feeling with every nitro I kill now

[dense fjord]

True

Nitro shredder and avtomat

[hexed whale]

Real uptick in people using it lately

[vale cedar]

why would u go nitro shredder

that shit sucks no?

[dense fjord]

It kills farther out and causes bleeding if you don’t ohk

[vale cedar]

oh i didn't know it killed farther

[fluid locust]

42m one shot on regular vs like 74 or something on shredder

72? I don't exactly remember

[vale cedar]

huh ok

[celest solstice]

Gosh, aim punch is just so fun on dual pistols. Someone shoots at you and hits you three times in a row and you cant fire back cuz your body is going into damn seizure 🙄

[dense fjord]

[sick anvil]

what are we hating on today ?

[fluid locust]

yo momma

[sick anvil]

... another one that fails the basic shape test

https://tenor.com/view/shape-sorting-lol-gif-5209222

[sick anvil]

Do you have any other reason than lack of anything better to say to revert to insults ?

[fluid locust]

dang bro you hella offended. also how is that an insult? lol

[sick anvil]

Hmm , maybe in your understanding yo momma is not slang for " your mother "
Now the context is me coming in asking what is the topic of hate of today to make a conscious decision of participating or staying out of the conversation your reply to that is quoted in proper English " your mother "

Good afternoon Veterli

[keen bolt]

Better Winfield Aperture anyone?

[prime ibex]

PLEASE

[keen bolt]

Ah yes good afternoon everyone

[prime ibex]

I mean, yes.

[sick anvil]

I would even make one more tweak

make the ring even skinnier and while ADS make it look blurred

[prime ibex]

If it means to get more viewing with the aperture, it would make it so much better

[sick anvil]

this is the closest to what it looks like when you use one of those

[keen bolt]

Ah yes I should save this

[sick anvil]

this and shave off about half of the outside of the ring

[keen bolt]

Half outside?

[sick anvil]

yes cause the ring would be ablut half as thick

thuse the black blurr created by it would be half the size

hole same then black ring half size

[keen bolt]

Ah so the actual hole is larger but the eye blurs Making it look larger.

?

Did I understand it correctly

[sick anvil]

gimme a sec i try to find a better picture

the blurr would be only inside of the two rings

as the Winnie aperture is skinnier

When you look through an aperture and focus your eye on front post the ring it self is out of focus thus to the eye it appears blurred and a slightly larger than than it actually is which also gives you the zoom effect on the target . while aimed shooting you usually close your other eye but in combat you keep your eye open to have peripheral vision which would be slightly blurred but you can very clearly tell what's going on

[keen bolt]

Hmm yeah true

[sick anvil]

with that in mind actually this change would make the FOW on aperture much better

[keen bolt]

It looks even smaller in the picture

But idk I never shot those sight exactly

Except in the HK that's the closest thing I ever shot

[sick anvil]

I had a Benelli M3 that used that sight

and that one had the skinniest possible ring

and it made a very faint ring

[keen bolt]

Wish we got sight picture to post xd

[sick anvil]

I am looking for a good one that would match the Winnie one

[dense fjord]

Genius

[keen bolt]

Lol if you wanna see the best Idea do look at the Nagant alternative buff idea

[sick anvil]

left is a large hole aperture right is small hole

[dense fjord]

I upvoted it 👍

[keen bolt]

Small one gave me ptsd

XD

Jk not ptsd but anxiety

I remember the 1st time getting an M1 carbine as training rifle

[sick anvil]

the left side would work the best on the Winnie

[keen bolt]

And I'm like

How am I supposed to aim this sh**

[sick anvil]

Besides Red Dot ghost ring / aperture sighs are in my opinion the fastest to acquire sight picture

[keen bolt]

What about this

[sick anvil]

that it how the parts look like

but that does not reflect what your eye does

[dense fjord]

@late wind I forgot I had suggested this already lol #game-ideas message

[keen bolt]

I just got some irl person pissing me off lol

Yeah "customer is always right" can screw itself (sometimes)

Sometimes I wonder if common sense is even common anymore xd