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[native lodge]

I use officer as side arm for something like the sparks and use New army with something like winnie c HV

in cqc I use the spitfire and new army practically the same

[digital nacelle]

idk…whenever I use winnie it always feels like I get more use out of a LeMat slug or hand crossbow than a double action sidearm

[native lodge]

I mean as long as you can control your rof double actions are mean in CQC

[digital nacelle]

so is lemat slug

[native lodge]

like New Army FMJ in building is better than a spitfire imo

[digital nacelle]

or hand crossbow

in a building they are dead if you land your slug

[native lodge]

yeah I would take New army fmj over both of those

[digital nacelle]

interesting

[native lodge]

build dependent ofc

fmj just makes the cover dynamic very different, its why I love the spitfire with fmj, killed a lot of full length slug shotguns on the fact when I can shoot through somebodys cover and they can't shoot through mine I going to play around that as much as possible

and New army FMJ is deadly on corner bangs

spitfire is too ofc, but I find at that range the rof giving the edge to the new army

[soft river]

Why is @queen jungle’s suggestion being downvoted?

Its forming parties between 2 console players that own different consoles

Not pc crossplay

Kinda surprising its 3 to 30 like damn what the fuck

[ember fern]

"Title: pc - console cross play parties"

[soft river]

Does it say pc?

Oh it does

I didn’t reas that

Ok I understand then

Why do so many people suggest pc console crossplay

[inner loom]

They might want to play with friends that have a console?
And others think playing vs. console players gives them an advantage.

[soft river]

Pc vs console is an advantage for pc players

There are people who use m&k on console and they can easily shred

Also last gen consoles have bad render distance

Even a lower end pc like mine has a much better render distance

It has to do with the old console’s cpus and the og ones having weak gpus too

[hollow plaza]

What your main rifle in game what do u like ? I see some rifles are 500 to use.

But don't all weapons kill with a headshot.

Why is there such a big difference in price.

I have used some of the more expensive sniper rifles there not a one tap to the body in most cases.

What is your go to rifle ?

[digital nacelle]

some rifles do more damage to body if you don’t headshot, penetrate through more cover, etc

however more price doesn’t mean better

higher caliber guns tend to cost more

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle 👍

[digital nacelle]

what you like depends on your play style

do you like to stay far, up close, or somewhere in between

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle I understand what u are saying and thanks u for reply

I like sniper and medium range rifles.

[digital nacelle]

how important to you is

• bullet speed
• wallbang potential

[hollow plaza]

I hit a player at about 150M in the chest with the Lrr and he lived

[digital nacelle]

well of course

sparks doesn’t one shot kill to the chest

[hollow plaza]

I could not believe it

[digital nacelle]

why not?

that gun only one hit kills for a headshot

[soft river]

There is damage dropoff

At 150m the sparks will only do like 80 damage

Or less

[digital nacelle]

that too

[hollow plaza]

I think for snipers at a good range u should be rewarded for pulling off a good shot to the upper body and be rewarded the kill.

But I understand how frustrating that would be players camping and one shotting other players.

You would have no chance so Ur chance is the two shot unless the headshot you I guess

[plush ledge]

I'm more curious what made him think a sparks would ohk at any range

[digital nacelle]

snipers would be oppressive if this was the case

[hollow plaza]

@plush ledge I am new to the game

[plush ledge]

Scopes are already the best guns in the game no need to buff them any further

[hollow plaza]

@plush ledge the game is just different to me. I have played noting like it I really like it. I am used to one shot kills in cod I guess.

[soft river]

Only shotguns and the nitro one shot in this game at certain ranges

Headshots too but they have a maximum range listed ij the stats

[digital nacelle]

and crossbows

[soft river]

And that

And bow

[hollow plaza]

It's one of the best games I ever played I will say that

@soft river 👍

@digital nacelle 👍

[soft river]

Bow and crossbow have really bad dropoff though

And the stats are not publicly available

[digital nacelle]

so do shotguns and nitro

unless shredder

or slug

[hollow plaza]

@soft river @digital nacelle what rifles do ye enjoy in game ?

[soft river]

I use the centennial, springfield, winfield c

[digital nacelle]

I usually run stocked pistols with dual wielding or shotguns

but if I use a rifle it’s the vetterli, martini riposte, or berthier riposte

[hollow plaza]

👌

[hollow plaza]

👍

[plush ledge]

This game rewards aim at least it used to do . in the meantime you can get pretty far by just spamming in the general direction when you can manage to get to 60m and below

[soft river]

Wdym “at least it used to”

[plush ledge]

back then you got decent aim or best you could do is camp with a shotgun and these days grab a pair or something similar and just start spamming away . only problem is you need to get kinda close to make it work like I said 50-60m max and you should be able to compensate a lack of skill and aim

[soft river]

Aren’t most fights within 0-60m

[digital nacelle]

depends on your match mmr

[hollow plaza]

I have noticed I can one shot every
grunt
Hound
Hive
All one shot to body with incendiary rounds.

On the winfelid but if I use
hi Volocity
Or dum sums
Or fmj
It won't one shot to body.

Its like u hit them and the burn finishes them off.

I

[plush ledge]

I've compound fights at 10-40m or 60-120m when it's outside of a compound

[soft river]

Also I’m worse at aiming in close range

[digital nacelle]

incendiary one taps basic AI yes as they immediately ignite

[soft river]

Hv on winfield is kinda bad

Since its compact and low damage and has a pretty low headshot range

[digital nacelle]

you did not just say that

[soft river]

Incinderary is situatiational

Fmj is very good

[digital nacelle]

both fmj and hv are extremely good on the winfield

[soft river]

No

[digital nacelle]

yes

[soft river]

If you want hv levering just use centennial and have normal ammo

Hv on winfield is expensive

[digital nacelle]

centennial sucks in its own right

and no it’s not

[soft river]

Yes it is

[digital nacelle]

$75 is midrange pricing

and the gun itself is cheap anyway

[soft river]

Yeah fmj costs less

And is better

[digital nacelle]

oh no 40 bucks whatever will you do

[soft river]

I’m all about cost effectiveness

[digital nacelle]

I wouldn’t call it better they’re both good in their own right

[soft river]

Not everyone is like you and has 600k

[digital nacelle]

40 bucks does not make a difference in my decision

nor should it yours

[soft river]

You also have 600k

Any hunt dollar is a hunt dollar

[digital nacelle]

I guarantee you most people don’t worry about 40 hunt dollars

that’s 1 clue

[soft river]

I do

[digital nacelle]

found ebenezer scrooge in hunt I guess

[soft river]

Hv on winfield is like 50$ less than cent and you get

Same mv

More damage

Better dropoff

More penetration

[digital nacelle]

cent has way less rof

way less ammo

awful levering

[soft river]

Those bonuses make up for it

[hollow plaza]

I made to to rank 100 what your opinion on prestige ? @digital nacelle @soft river

[digital nacelle]

awful sights

[soft river]

“Awful levering”

[digital nacelle]

it is awful

[soft river]

Like hv is really any useful for levering

[digital nacelle]

don’t call cent levering good

[soft river]

I won’t

[digital nacelle]

it…is?

[soft river]

Because that’d be wrong

[digital nacelle]

don’t

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle ok

[soft river]

Prestige is a waste of time

[tribal wyvern]

not prestiging gets boring very fast

[soft river]

And makes the game feel like a grind

[tribal wyvern]

always same loadout

[hollow plaza]

@soft river @digital nacelle 👌

[digital nacelle]

centennial is one of the worst if not the worst gun

[soft river]

Thats only if you have no self control

[digital nacelle]

then switch it up yourself

[tribal wyvern]

I do

by prestiging

[soft river]

And can’t force yourself to use something else

[tribal wyvern]

forces me to play different

[digital nacelle]

I just

[soft river]

Its not you then really

[digital nacelle]

buy a different loadout

[tribal wyvern]

And gives interesting prestiges

[digital nacelle]

ez

[tribal wyvern]

Like only xbow prestige, only winfield prestige etc

[hollow plaza]

@tribal wyvern like what what have u got ?

[digital nacelle]

I can just only use xbow for a couple days

same experience without the annoying parts or sacrificing my 600k

[soft river]

Yeah

[tribal wyvern]

well u dont need more than a couple of days to hit 100

[digital nacelle]

yeah but I can’t use the cool guns

riposte attachments, lemat slug, bornheim match

[tribal wyvern]

you get a legendary skin lvl 1-10. Then every 10 lvl i think

[digital nacelle]

unlocking them again is a PAIN

[tribal wyvern]

and always pick xp after u get to lvl 11+ prestige

unless u get free legendary

[digital nacelle]

free legendary is every 10 prestiges after p10 iirc

[tribal wyvern]

ye thats what i said

[digital nacelle]

I’m agreeing with you

[hollow plaza]

@tribal wyvern I see a guy with a gold sparks lrr the other day

[digital nacelle]

louisiana lustrum?

fire torn?

[hollow plaza]

It had a gold can on top is that a prestige one ?

[digital nacelle]

there is a prestige skin for sparks

[hollow plaza]

I seen on the kill picture after

[digital nacelle]

it’s called louisiana lustrum

let me get the image

[soft river]

No

5 10 25 50 100

All have a set skin reward

[digital nacelle]

is this what you mean

[soft river]

Everything else is random

[digital nacelle]

you misunderstand

I said free legendary

not select a free one

the set skins are 5 10 25 50 100 yes

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle the one I seen had the silencer and it looked gold to me

[digital nacelle]

ah desalle’s silence

you can buy it in the store for bloodbonds

[soft river]

Is sparks silencer fmj any good

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle yes that's it but the gun looked gold in colour and had a gold can for silencer

[digital nacelle]

I wouldn’t take it

even with silencer it’s still long ammo so the dropoff is fine

[soft river]

I wouldn’t use a sparks in the first place

I don’t like it

[digital nacelle]

that’s just a bad picture

here’s a better one

[tribal wyvern]

It's the one u mean

As he says, just a bad pic

Can check in menu

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle ya that's it if it has the gold silencer

[digital nacelle]

you can buy it with BB

[tribal wyvern]

id not recommend silencer on spark tho, long reload, the ironsight is atrocious

[hollow plaza]

I must look again I missed that one 👌@digital nacelle

[digital nacelle]

it’s not bad

very high damage and silencer

just has a learning curve due to the sights and velocity

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle I like the scope on the sparks sniper

[tribal wyvern]

Ye but theres other options thats just 10x better.
Like vetterli silencer.

[digital nacelle]

vetterli silencer is too strong

idk why they made it so much better than the other silenced rifles

but true

[tribal wyvern]

If you like the iron sight on spark silencer, sure go for it.
I personally do not

[digital nacelle]

that also has a BB skin. called the sparchie

[tribal wyvern]

Named after the one & only, Archie.

[hollow plaza]

@digital nacelle 👌

[digital nacelle]

seven sights is better but sadly no longer obtainable

[tribal wyvern]

ye that one looks really good

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[hollow plaza]

One thing 👌 I would like to see in game would but if u ran over a kill u would pick up your bow arrow.

Some times u have to stop over the arrow. And even look around . To find it to pick up.

Some time it gives u the option to pick it up.

But u have to move around to do so. Only some times it happens.

Which could end up getting u killed

[signal mural]

I am disappointed over the new "Quest/Summon" overhaul. It has just made a longer, albeit with some minimal selection influence, Daily/Weekly challenge grind. It feels like there is zero retrospect as to what was being redone. A Weekly Challenge used to be something mundane (Kill 250 Grunts with Melee), Reasonable (Kill 15 Hunters by Shooting), to Unthinkable (Get the Clean Sweep Bonus 20 times on Scrapbeak). Now you have to earn 30 "stars" to get your weekly BB reward of 25 BB; Killing 40 Grunts = 1 Star in my weekly Summoning, I am allowed to repeat this once per day to get the reward... Killing 14 Hunters gives what 4 Stars? So in the old system I could earn more BBs faster but now in Summons I just earn junk gear that I can sell for 1/2 Hunt dollars to get what I really want.

[sharp veldt]

you can repeat any of the quests as many times as you want to get stars

[quaint agate]

Its more rewards over all for me since most of my summons are less specific which means it's easier to get done and less RNG based

[unborn dagger]

^

[signal mural]

Yeah but the math doesn't add up. 30 x 40 = 1200 Grunts in a Week if I just want to grind that Summon. The other Summons offer stars at rates that Weekly challenges would give you 25BB.

[digital nacelle]

I dislike how grindy they are

it takes wayyy too much

[quaint agate]

How many weeklies have I missed because I didn't get the boss I needed in my matches and couldn't get the bounty?

[unborn dagger]

Then it certainly needs to be more rewarding or less grindy

[digital nacelle]

^

I like that it’s more specific

less rng

but 30 stars is too much

[quaint agate]

6 specific boss bounties or 6 bounties of any kind. Which sounds less grindy and easier

[signal mural]

That's my point. There is no reflection on what makes for a better system, rather the only effort seems to be: How do we get players to spend more BBs on slot unlocks, Hunters, and Weapon skins?

Yeah, but those Boss specific Challenges were a joke... that would have been fine if Contracts were a functional tab still.

[digital nacelle]

I disagree

I think at its core summons are a better system

crytek just missed the mark balancing the amount of grind

[quaint agate]

You get to pick and choose what you want, it's less RNG based and many of them are things you'd do anyway summons or not

[digital nacelle]

if they reduce the stars required or increase star gained I will like summons a lot

[quaint agate]

Earn money in matches and get money for it? Deal

[sharp veldt]

dont forget that we want to add more summons. so if you have ideas for fun ones, throw them in #game-ideas or on our socials.

[unborn dagger]

I would certainly choose the new system over the old one. Christ that old one was so bad

[digital nacelle]

I prefer the old one until they reduce summons requirements

[signal mural]

Yeah, it is nice to have a choice - to pick your poison so to say but the balance is way off. Thanks Violet, I am aware of it and will try and add some later. My issue is mostly that although the new system seems nice, the effort to star/unlock value seems way off IMO.

[digital nacelle]

^^^

[unborn dagger]

You don't get any other reward once you complete the entire thing right? Just stars?

[glass fractal]

can anyone tell me how the "Earn Bloodline XP"-quest works? I just finished a match and in the mission summary it says I achieved 1k Bloodline XP, but the quest did not progress. It is still on 0/10k. Why? Can anyone explaiNß

*explain?

[glass fractal]

you get a reward for each specific quest (shows in the corner of the corresponding quest plate)

[unborn dagger]

I mean once you complete those quests, can you get any other reward the next day or just the next week?

[glass fractal]

ah, no, no. First time completion: Reward + stars. Repeated completion: Stars

[sharp veldt]

bugged. right now only counts if you die

[glass fractal]

wow, nice, haha. I see, I see. Looking foward to the fix then, I guess

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#suggestaquest  - The number of times (values) can be applied and varied based on star reward and standing on the summoning tablet: Revive an Ally. Kill a player who killed you in the same match or kill an enemy Hunter that killed your ally. Create a fire that kills 5+ enemies. Get a Kill Assist. Snuff out chickens/dogs kennels/crows/ducks/horses. Heal/buff a teammate. Visit your Legendary Hunter's scene &/or kill a Boss or Hunter there (Redneck to Moses/ Bad Hand to the poker table/ Priest & Nun to the respective churches/ Lulu to the bordello or saloon). Break down doors. Penetrate a barrier to kill a Hunter. Do not loot any gear. Leave a mission with a completely new loadout. Kill a bounty while the area is hostile (enemy Hunters near). Inflict status effects on enemy Hunters (blind/burning/bleeding/poisoned). Stop burn/bleed/poison. Kills with tools. Get 3 Stars on a Trial. Prestige. Retire a Hunter. Max out a Hunter. Get a Grand Slam/Trio/Duo Bounty extracted. Kill an enemy Hunter team.       #removeaquest/changeaquest - Some summons could benefit from a dual criteria such as &/or ex: Be the Sole Survivor or Extract a solo bounty. Please consider removing any specific Boss summons since Contracts is a dead tab in the menu. A 3x a week "Reshuffle a Summon" would be nice.```

[crystal plume]

@velvet ingot Can you specify what you mean with old flash bomb? It has always blinded you regardless where you are looking at

Afaik the changes it received were mostly with hitmarker only showing up on a full flash and such

[velvet ingot]

If it landed behind you per se it was no where near as severe

it is an "easy" mode more worse than the frag imo bc it can land behind you and be more fatal

if you recall the timer changes also when it was in the rework phase

or give us a trait to reduce it like bloodless....

[fluid locust]

Absolutely agreed. Previously you either had quests that were stupid ez (I had ones like shoot 250 enemies which you can literally do in a day), pick up x amount of clues (not too hard, not too easy), then boss specific ones which are near impossible to do. So it was either I can possibly do my weekly or not do it at all. But with the summons it seems like you can always do it... if you have a lot of time. Which I think is a lot worse system. Because previously I could look at what my challenge was and see, can I do this or not? Now it's like I need basically a whole ass free week to do it because of how much grind it is.

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[queen jungle]

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[digital nacelle]

understood, apologies

[mint kite]

I think the new system is great, I think it's really easy to achieve the 30 stars, I just keep repeating the kill 'X' hunters and I play 3-4 matches a day which allows me to get just about enough stars for the weekly by the end of the week and that's with only 1 active summon, the other summon I might have for finding clues and it's becomes much more consistent for me to reach the weekly goal.

Furthermore I like the choice of a challenge if I'm feeling for it for example I have one that said 'Kill 2 hunters with the legendary knuckle dusters "Rawhide"' which I thought was quite a fun thing to go and do to achieve a few blood bonds.
I think I would like to see more of these weapon exclusive summons to influence a bit of variety in peoples loadouts sometimes, perhaps set a challenge for igniting 'X' amount of people using dragon breath rounds or something silly.

[tribal wyvern]

@unkempt frost
You can seriously not argue that this weekly is harder than the old one.
I did this one in like 8 hrs.
8/10 weeklies i never finnished before cuz it required finding, killing 10+ specific bosses. And 9/10 times you'd never see them, let alone be there first.

Now you can spam super easy ones & be done in 2-3 days casually playing.

You barely require any effort right now, which is really nice. Not much forced playtime or dedicated playtime.

[neat tree]

Hi there, I would like to share my first impressions on the new update regarding the summons system.
In general I like the idea of having a choice of quests. its ok for me to farm 300 BB to open up a 3rd slot.
Being a casual player, who has like 2 hours a day to play, I see that collecting that Questpoints to finally get the 25 BB takes way longer than completing the old quests which could be finished as daily quests in 2-3 games. Seeing that I have to play hours of games to fulfill the weekly task is disencouraging.

But what I absolutely dislike about the new quest system is the last quest that requires DLC content to be fulfilled. In my view it is unneccessary greed to introduce such a game mode!

I am a supporter of the game since the beginning. I played the beta, had a break for a year, came back, bought DLCs that I don't need just to support the game - but I did it BY MY FREE WILL. That's important. I will stop supporting the game by buying DLCs when I am forced to buy DLCs to fulfill a quest like that.

The response that I am not forced to play that quest misses my point, because it aims at the principle of DLCs and Ingameshops. The option alone that you only can fulfill a quest by having payed surplus money for a game you already bought at full price is a NO GO in my oppinion and marks a policy shift of a player-fair company to greed that I cannot approve. I would appreciate if you alter that last quest into something else challenging and keep up the policy from before.

That means: to offer DLCs that is not necessary to any ingame questing, but just cosmetic and open to those who like the new skins or just want to support the company but not to use any subtle measure to force people to buy DLCs.

DLDR: overhaul the new quest system for a "faster" success, because it takes massive more time to do the quests now and scrap the Quest hat requires DLC content.

[tribal wyvern]

So you can find,kill,banish & extract 8 scrapbeaks, faster than this? If so im incredibly impressed.
Cuz i can play 20 games in a row, see scrapbeak 4 times & not even once be first to his lair

Cuz ppl spawn at him

There were like 4 variants that were "easy."
But sometimes you even got QP ones

But any boss variants (especially when prestiging) were impossible

While they can always improve, work on & add more quests.
This is the best system they've ever had so far

@graceful harness
It's 9, relax.
And they're far easier than your usual dailies.
And you can do 2-3 of them at a time.
They're just passively done as you play the game.

[neat tree]

The old system wasnt encouraging either. finding 8 scrapbeaks that dont show up in 20 games isnt attractive at all, thats why I say that the Idea of having several quests to chose from is interesting. But I spend several hours of gaming yesterday evening, just to have 4 Points in total and needing 30 to get the weekly quest. thats something different like "kill 3 hunters" and you'll be done.

[tribal wyvern]

Idk which ones you had, but they're hardly that difficult.
I had ones to gain money, gain hunter xp, kill gun/lantern zombie, kill immolator, find clues & bosslairs

And i finnished it as said in 8hrs

Without focusing on any of em

Tip is to just pick the easier ones & repeat them

[neat tree]

lucky you. i made 2000 dollars yesterday and should have collected 6.5k, cause i had a remarkable dying streak and just succeeded in getting out alive twice

and i thought this to be one of the more "easier" quests, besides that i only can chose 2 quests, cause i dont have the 300 bb at hand atm.

[tribal wyvern]

Have one easy repeatable while working on a harder

For example the 5 immolator one i had, could be done every round

Which meant atleast 1 point per game

[queen jungle]

i report a bug , i cant play, fix it and take my blutmarken amk

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[terse elm]

@sudden nexus I have an autorun script if you're interested.

[edgy crystal]

@terse elm does this apply to pc?

[terse elm]

Yes.

[unborn smelt]

@queen jungle Does the Winnie actually have worse sway - or just worse hadling?

Because handling isn't just sway, could also be same sway but worse recoil and/or hipfire accuracy.

Handling: An abstract rating of effectiveness taking the following into account: weapon sway, recoil, and bullet spread.

[static gorge]

Since the new update, I can't play Hunt in fullscreen at 1440p. Ive tested this on a multitude of games, and they all work fine, but with Hunt, it is scaling the image terribly wrong. If I put it in Windowed fullscreen, it scales perfectly correct but then I have the issue of my mouse running off my primary monitor, because Im rich and have 3 monitors, and it will minimize my game. This is frustrating because my boujee eyes can no longer see peasant 1080p and that seems to be the only way that I can get it to scale correctly.

[dusty pendant]

If this same system was introduced without the DLC Quests in place, everyone would love it. But because they added DLC Quests on the end that people who already have the DLCs can use to get extra rewards for their money, greedy people scream.
BB are for cosmetics. Crytek hasn't shown any form of greed.
People need to stop complaining about FREE content. You can use free bloodbonds to get weapon skins to get free bloodbonds.

I really can't understand all the people complaining/whinging(nothing against anybody in particular, it's just sad to see).

[lavish grove]

Getting bb isn’t even that hard man

[dusty pendant]

I haven't purchased any BBs and I have 8k rn. So I'd have to agree.

[lavish grove]

I binge my bb every event and i recently bought 2 terminus skins

I have 2.7k

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[queen jungle]

Bet you wish you could feel a mother’s touch, bot.

[neat tree]

We are not talking about free BB here, which can be gained with patience. My DLC quest is to kill five players with the stalker's snarl hunting bow which is part of the lonely howl-DLC for 10€. so it is NOT FREE content.

[dusty pendant]

Apologies - my last sentence was mistyped. But only my last sentence. Changes nothing about my point as a whole.

[simple flame]

yeah, but it's one of nine possible quests. If it was totally choking out the 'free' quests, I'd see the concern, but rewarding/encouraging dlc purchases just isn't the evil some of you are claiming it to be

It's like everybody's been conditioned to have totally unreasonable knee jerk responses to ANY attempt on a developer to make money on their creation. It's ridiculous

[dusty pendant]

Fr

The Hunt team will not be able to give us new maps, bosses, weapons, mechanics, or fix any bugs if they don't get the funding they need to do so. And selling cosmetics at reasonable prices is literally the least-greedy way they can do such a thing.

And promoting purchasing these cosmetics through quests is a great way to improve this.

[static gorge]

I fixed the issue, but it literally took me uninstalling the game and reinstalling.

[lavish grove]

This game is literally a one time purchase

You not being able to complete 1 of 9 quests isnt the end of the world

Now i can see being mad that they release dlc constantly but not patches

But thats a different thing

[hexed whale]

Yeah maybe if the base game was a polished gem I could understand. Or if the servers were stable. But they arent. Focusing resources on grabbing more cash instead of fixing the game and servers which have been an issue for literal years now is unacceptable and kind of a slap in the face to basically ask for more money and support for something that breaks down constantly

[bronze quail]

How they are supposed to fund the fixing work? They need money to keep the game alive, and without money there are no fixes and no servers.
Im not saying that the game is fine, (i actually stopped playing but more cause of the community rather than bugs and stuff), but without money there is nothing they can do

And more are the problems more is the money they gonna need

[dusty pendant]

You'd be right, I suppose, if you knew how game development worked.
The department in charge of designing and monetizing DLCs doesn't tell the Balance Department/Network Department/Gameplay testers/Coders to stop working when they want to make a skin and sell it. That isn't how it works.
Such DLCs enable the game to continue, mechanics to be made/implemented, bugs to be fixed, etc.

[bronze quail]

And atm, exept for a couple of broken skins there is nothing that can considered Paytowin or locked behind a irl money payment.
Furthermore making skins is not that expensive, meaning that they can make good money in a cheap way increasing the money that they can invest in developers for fixing the game

Then we can talk about the fact that almost nothing is improving in the game, but this is another discussion lol

[queen jungle]

it's like they're on the payroll.

There's no way they gaslight and brownnose this hard for free.

[hexed whale]

Hahaha what a joke. The romero was bugged for MONTHS. they put out a new skin every what? Month? So they couldnt release a hotfix for something so game breaking but the company has money to give to artists to make new skins every month. How convenient that they have never had bugs with their store, never have problems releasing new skins on time and never have a problem getting your money but always have problems keeping your game in an above laughable state

Name one other game like that

Please give me one recent title with this player count that is doing this bad

[bronze quail]

Paying an artist is way cheaper that paying a full team fixing the game. And making skins requires way less work and effort than fixing all the game problems.
And in top of that fixing hunt takes a lot of time cause the game was always broken since the release and kept getting worse every month more

[dusty pendant]

There was a bug with the golden cash registers where they probably lost thousands and thousands of dollars in bloodbonds, if not more. What are you talking about they don't have inconvenient bugs? You've no clue how game development works.

Have a good day.

[bronze quail]

Tarkov is in the same situation, but somehow they managed to get way more players, but the game is even more broken that hunt

Nobody here is saying that the game is not broken, we are just saying that the only way to fix the game is by paying people to do it, and the only way to get money is selling skins.

No skins No fix

[dusty pendant]

Don't act like they're stockpiling cash, lmao. They're using the funding they get from DLCs to keep their company running and development continuing. Calm down.

[bronze quail]

Imagine thinking that skins are made by the developers

[hexed whale]

you arent paying attention

[dusty pendant]

no u

[rancid marlin]

the team that adds art assets to the game and the team that fixes bugs are not the same people

they could add one million skins or zero skins in the next week and it would not make fixes come out any slower or faster

[late wind]

@keen bolt I like that idea, but good luck getting anyone to agree with an idea that punishes them for playing like a moron.

[keen bolt]

0.0

[fluid locust]

Yea I used to think handling was sway but I'm pretty sure uppercut objectively has better sway than the oberez and it has worse handling stat

[dusty pendant]

@prime ibex Do u have a clip? Was probably just a miss due to muzzle velocity or unseen movement.

[prime ibex]

I would have the clip but I completely forgot it, besides so it went over the minute long for a quick clip lol

It was rather unfortunate though cause I hit him dead on with decent latency

[celest solstice]

You're looking at it the wrong way. If the game is littered with so many bugs and problems, including major server problems, then you need to pull the focus off monetization and make bug fixes, optimization and server stabilizing number one priority. I don't care how many people they have making skins. Tell them they're on vacation cuz what's the point of making skins for a game that is tanking itself because of serious, long standing issues. Server stability should be the utmost focus along with optimization. Stop making skins and get your employees on the ball. Let some art people go and hire some professionals to get these problems ironed out. I would much rather have a stable game that plays fantastic and is enjoyable than the mess we have with skins coming out every other week.

[rancid marlin]

you're looking at it the wrong way. they are people in different departments. the actions of the people in the art department do not affect the programmers.

the actions of one is irrelevant to the other.

[unborn dagger]

@buoyant ether That would actually be nice for the game, something like Warzone's small quests where you need to find documents

[inner loom]

Just send people on vacation and stop paying them!

[rancid marlin]

the reason bugfixes are taking so long is because the game has a lot of very delicate and complicated systems that are interacting with each other constantly, in an engine that can be unwieldy to work in.
this makes it hard to fix things without messing up something else, because the systems are so tightly interwoven and complicated.

[celest solstice]

LMAO what development?? Quest systems?? Boring event?? FIX THE ISSUES. Use the money smartly. They have no clue what they're doing over there and they look like they're just winging it lol

[rancid marlin]

also the game being multiplayer makes things much more complicated, as it's yet another system overlaid on top of literally everything else that must be accounted for.

[celest solstice]

You're right. 4 years just isnt'

[inner loom]

They've got open positions.
Go apply and 'fix' things with your vast experience of not paying people.

[celest solstice]

enough time 🙄

[celest solstice]

When did I say not to pay someone? You seem to think just like they do

[rancid marlin]

you don't need me to tell you this but making games is extremely hard, it's the hardest medium to work in by far. they want the game to be perfect as much as you do but it's just not that simple.

[celest solstice]

They wanna pay the littlest possible to the cheapest devs and expect results lol

[inner loom]

You literally said to send them on vacation like that's going to reduce spendings.
Maybe you should think a little before you state something.

[celest solstice]

Did you buy the wendigo skin?

[rancid marlin]

i'm disappointed by the update too but you're barking up the wrong tree. they're doing their best, but architectural problems from a long time ago are biting them in the ass and there's little to do about it now but chip away at the problems.

[celest solstice]

how about the witch hunter?

Maybe Cain?

or Reptilian?

[rancid marlin]

the only skin i bought was Phantom 'cause i thought he looked cool. otherwise i haven't spent money on the game beyond buying it.

again, you're barking up the wrong tree.

[celest solstice]

Cuz I'm guessing thousands of people have and that money is going where?

The new quest system?

The new grunts?? lmao

[inner loom]

Just take the money and shove it somewhere else.
Problem solved.

[celest solstice]

Oh but lets leave known issues like headshots not counting

[rancid marlin]

it is reasonable to be frustrated by the lack of meaningful content updates. i'm disappointed to. but it doesn't change the fact that the systems are not only complicated but extremely interwoven.

changes that seem small to you can take a lot of man hours in practice.

[inner loom]

It's ridiculous that you're naïve enough to believe that's how it works.

[celest solstice]

Pot calling the kettle black

You seem to think these people have no experience with this engine. I like to give them the credit that they do

[rancid marlin]

i suggest taking a break from the game and coming back when an update catches your interest. being so upset about something like this is bad for your health.

[celest solstice]

And should be able to make the adjustments needed in a reasonable time to correct major problems

Find another game that works this way?

Someone said Tarkov... Are you serious??

Tarkov is leaps and bounds above this game

[rancid marlin]

ok. then go play it.

[celest solstice]

I do. Thanks

[rancid marlin]

good.

[celest solstice]

Just sad that people like you guys jock these guys so much

This is the reason that they move so slowly

[rancid marlin]

i would hate to have so little faith in others as you have. that sounds miserable, to me.

[inner loom]

Just harass folk, shove the money somewhere else and disregard others. Easy solution.

[celest solstice]

Because they'll put a skin out and say we fixed something we shouldn't of broke 4 months later and you pat them on the back

4 YEARS guys

This isnt a beta

This game is not in early dev

[rancid marlin]

i left a long critique about how disappointing the update was yesterday. that doesn't change the fact that the department that makes skins and the department that fixes bugs are different people entirely.

[celest solstice]

4 years released... thats after a beta

[inner loom]

4 years and somehow you still haven't gotten the job to fix the game like it so easily would.

[rancid marlin]

constantly bringing up skins being released and bugs being unfixed in the same sentence as though they're related makes you look extremely unknowledgeable.

[celest solstice]

They are absolutely related

[rancid marlin]

they are not.

[dusty pendant]

You've no idea what you're talking about, no contest, lol.

[celest solstice]

It's development in the game

[inner loom]

Mr. Dunning-Kruger reaching for the stars.

[celest solstice]

It's a lack of putting focus on the correct issues

Money rules all

[rancid marlin]

the issue is man hours and the root cause is the technical debt the devs took on to get the game working at all in the early stages

they can take funding from the skin department and put it into bug fixes if they want

that won't fix anything

[celest solstice]

The game worked fine prior to 1.7

[rancid marlin]

the issue is that it's an extremely unwieldy engine with massive technical debt and things are going to burst at the seams the more they add. it is unavoidable at this point. they can't go back in time.

[celest solstice]

It's the influx of players. Lack of server optimizations. Lack of game optimizations. Etc..

[rancid marlin]

look man

i can't make you be understanding towards them

[celest solstice]

So stop adding lmao

[rancid marlin]

but you've said yourself you have an alternative and your interest in this game is waning

[celest solstice]

Nope

[rancid marlin]

so just

play the alternative

why waste your time here

all you're doing is making yourself angrier

[celest solstice]

Nah, I have the freedom to express my opinion and I will

[rancid marlin]

opinion expressed

mission success

[celest solstice]

Thank you

[rancid marlin]

yet you're still here

[celest solstice]

And I will be

[rancid marlin]

that's fine

[celest solstice]

Cuz I enjoy the concept of the game

[rancid marlin]

it will confuse me because you're clearly not having a fun time, but that's fine

[celest solstice]

Execution is poor

[rancid marlin]

a not-at-all uncommon opinion

[celest solstice]

Look, you guys are allowed to fanboy at them. It's all good but you need to let the people expressing concerns do so otherwise, it just goes unnoticed

[rancid marlin]

you're acting like you weren't just openly antagonizing people

people were happy to be civil with you and then even now, while you're pretending to be civil, you can't frame your opposition through any lens other than 'blind, raving fanboys'

[inner loom]

It's clear you only know to speak in inflammatory hyperbolic remarks about topics you can't have an opinion in because you lack any professional background.
What you're doing is the opposite of helpful.
You're not expressing anything, because there's no groundworks to what you have.

[rancid marlin]

the fact of the matter is that the game's technical debt has caught up with it. you can complain that there are too many skins if you like, but releasing less skins and no new content will be a bigger death nail to the game than unfixed bugs.

no one's saying you have to like it. i know i don't either. but complaining and lashing out at people won't fix it.

when a game is in a state i really don't like, i just move on from it and play something else. i don't hang out in the discords or anything like that, i just drop it.

i suggest doing the same.

[celest solstice]

Don't Delete my posts but keep his insulting posts

@dim heron

[rancid marlin]

c'mon man chill

[dim heron]

Now that everyone has said their piece, since this will only devolve to insults from here. I strongly suggest we change the topic and instead actually discuss ideas and feedback :)

[celest solstice]

Right, so leave his insulting post but delete min. Nice modding

[dim heron]

I'm on mobile, takes a minute to moderate. Calm down and go lose another round of hunt

[rancid marlin]

their focus is less on fairness and ending the conflict ASAP

[inner loom]

If you take such offense to it, I'll retract my statement.
You've spoken for yourself enough already.

[celest solstice]

Nice mod. About as useful as the devs

[rancid marlin]

ok unnecessary snippy remark from the uh. moderator

that was weird why did you say that

[dim heron]

People lose rounds of hunt, wasn't meant to be snippy

[rancid marlin]

'go play another round' wouldn't have been snippy. 'go lose another round' definitely came across that way

[sacred sparrow]

LOL 😄 riiiiiight. cause there was no slightly double meaning in there whatsoever.

[celest solstice]

More like a sarcastic, stupid comment but hey ok

[sacred sparrow]

must be thinking people are dumb

[rancid marlin]

i get that it was a tense situation and the guy wasn't helping but, c'mon

i literally just said you were trying to end the conflict ASAP and you made me look bad for defending you

[dim heron]

Apologies for making you look bad, let's keep the discussion tied to feedback and ideas going forward :)

[hexed whale]

@queen jungle if you have 4.5star or above turn off skillbased. anything below that keep it on. youll see an improvement trust me

[fluid locust]

imagine thinking tarkov is more stable than hunt. kinda cringe honestly lmao

that's like saying dayz is more stable. you're just lying to yourself at that point

[dusty pendant]

big facts

[celest solstice]

Imagine thinking this games even compares to Tarkov lol you fanboys are funny

[fluid locust]

I judge this game more than most people in here lol. You're just straight lying if you think tarkov is more stable. That game is a dumpster fire.

[sacred sparrow]

Well, Tarkov reached 200.000 concurrent players a few years ago. My guess is, they're still doing fine. Meanwhile, Hunt lost all players that came back because of the event and is back on the decline in terms of playerbase that started beginning of the year. And the reasons for that are obvious. You can fanboy all you want, but it's just the way it is. Regardless of which game is "more stable"

[vague patio]

oh no, a mod showed a bit of attitude, get your world weapons!!

[edgy crystal]

Losing playerbase lol….

Looks like it’s pretty even to me

[vague patio]

trend goes upward, even if slowly

[edgy crystal]

yup

[vague patio]

higher player activity is to be expected around events

[edgy crystal]

think the next event will really tell tho, if there is pay to win or any scummy mechanics I believe the player base will decline after the event rise

[vague patio]

id guess not much more than traitors moon

[sacred sparrow]

we had a drop in players after every event 😉 people come back for some skins, disappear straight after. no decent natural growth is occuring. sure, new players keep buying the game, but more and more people are leaving. you can keep playing yes-man as much as you want, but retention is an issue. and that's not because the game has no problems or something. but hey, we'll all believe what we want, time will tell. if you look the chart since the beginning of the game, sure it's up. no shit. if you look at the last year though, it's only going down, with the exception of small temporary boosts around events. assuming people still buy the game and new players come in, that means people are not staying. but sure, there's no problem at all 😉

[edgy crystal]

you’re talking to someone who is very critical against crytek, and probably piss off a lot of devs

but you’re just wrong

[edgy crystal]

the game isn’t losing playerbase

I sent you direct numbers, believe what you want.

[sacred sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/there-cheer-up-buttercup-it-gif-21613666

[edgy crystal]

Ignorant.

goodbye.

[steel shoal]

@unkempt ravine #game-ideas message
I like the idea for the weapon, but I feel like it might just be a bit too unhealthy if the gun becomes reliable at long range in a meta where shotgun primaries dominate

[unkempt ravine]

how so?

cuz theres already the uppercutt and the schofield

[steel shoal]

This gun would fill the void of a small slot medium/long ammo that has a sealed barrel
What do you mean by the latter half of the sentence involving a sealed barrel?

[unkempt ravine]

because most revolvers have a gap for the cylinder to rotate

and that gap prevents revolvers from using hv ammo

[steel shoal]

Oh fr? I never knew that

so the seal allows for high velocity ammo to be used in a pistol that offers medium-to-long range capabilities?

[unkempt ravine]

its would still have the trade offs of hv and spizer

higher mv but lower dmg

so it would be easier to hit in long range but would be less useful at killing at long range

[steel shoal]

I suppose it would make for a potent offering, and automatically a consideration for anyone looking for a long range secondary

as a person who's relatively new to the game it'd be far for me to give actual analysis on the implications of such a weapon to the meta

[unkempt ravine]

currently the 2 meta side arms is the schofield and the uppercutt

schofield has a fast reload and good kill range (with fmj) but bad mv

the uppercutt has good range, dmg, and high mv for a secondary but has abad reload and high recoil

[steel shoal]

and yours I presume is the best of both worlds?

[unkempt ravine]

yes and no

it has some goods and bads to

the recoil would prob kick like a bitch like the real world varient

even with the medium varient

the irl varient already kicked super hard with the .38 s&w because of the sealed cylinder

[steel shoal]

I see

[unkempt ravine]

and because the high recoil the user would be forced to have a slow fire rate

because it would take some time for the gun to settle

[steel shoal]

but isn't recoil probably a little less of a concern in longer ranges when you have time to ready your next shot?

I guess it would suck for shorter ranges for sure though

[unkempt ravine]

if you look at long range guns it would make a difference because with low recoil it is easier to get a follow up shot

this is not considering one tapping btw

[steel shoal]

yeah ofc

Personally, I think the drawbacks to the weapon may be a little understated given its otherwise amazing utility

but any forgotten weapons video that gets repped I upvote

[unkempt ravine]

how so?

[keen bolt]

Wait which guns are we talking about?

[steel shoal]

the most recent suggestion in #game-ideas

[keen bolt]

Ah the howdah

They'll probably be adding it in eventually

[steel shoal]

Swell damage at high muzzle velocities, being able to fire twice before having to trigger the reload animation, for a gameplay style that would involve sitting back from further away to line up a shot relegates this gun as a pocket sniper that arguably has more utility than some actual sniper rifles in the game. Its negatives seem to run in conjunction to the playstyle it's least meant to be suited for, and though there are situations where this game can and will perform suboptimally- the places it is optimal for seems a bit too overtuned for my personal tastes

[half stag]

wait till you see the uppercut

[steel shoal]

but again, I'm new to this game and am only getting used to the meta so it's hard for me to say anything for sure

[half stag]

imo the howdah's are not that bad compared to that gun

[steel shoal]

if you think so!

[keen bolt]

Uppercut is kinda ... Too Strong

But we can't replace it cause there's literally no replacement for it

[half stag]

well well, sit down, I'll tell you all about it. The uppercut has a almost 40% usage rate in high elo, six rounds with the same m/v as a winnie, 130 dmg, can use fanning (which turns your revolver into a full auto)

[keen bolt]

I don't use them tho

[half stag]

they're fun to use on occasion, but its so boring given how ubiquitous it is

[steel shoal]

and here I thought that the dolch would be the premier sidearm for the upper elos

[keen bolt]

That's why I just try Nagant with hv instead

[keen bolt]

Used to be

[steel shoal]

I personally like bumrushing with my calvary saber

[unkempt ravine]

it got nerfed to much

[unborn smelt]

You got newer data - because it was at over 50% at the time of the Dolch nerfs

Afaik

[keen bolt]

Dolch is basically semi auto pax back then

When fmj does not exist

[half stag]

and big thing with it is the drop off (which starts at 30 meters), exceeding all the other sidearms, letting it onetap 125 hp hunters (those missing a smallbar) to the chest

unless they run fmj, but the 130 dmg is insane

[keen bolt]

Yup 130 damage for a sidearm

1 tap to 30m

Should of made it 125

[half stag]

oh and two taps to the limbs in that distance as well, very fun xd

[keen bolt]

That's why I love em lol

Love prying it out of someone cold dead hand I mean

[fluid locust]

the meta on PC is long ammo. and that's it. everything else pales in comparison at least in high elo.

[keen bolt]

Exactly this

Once you hit middle-high 5 star there's just long ammo

And if you're seeing shotgun just call out to your teammates "They have slug"

[fluid locust]

it was until it got slapped with nerfs. try hards still love the dolch prec and mosin sniper combo though

[keen bolt]

Cause that's what they will use 99.99% of times

[steel shoal]

interesting

[fluid locust]

the only thing with the dolch is that poor shitters can't afford it. but rich shitters can. plus anyone who prestiges don't unlock it until way after you can get the uppercut

[steel shoal]

I'm personally trying to grind up to a Veterli Silencer rn

because I die a lot and it looks like a great option for players on a budget

[keen bolt]

Earliest I unlock the uppercut is something like rank 32

[unkempt ravine]

bro i just use buckshot in high 5 elo

[keen bolt]

To 40

[fluid locust]

Vet silencer is p good. has better sights than regular vetterli imo. plus FMJ or HV are both good options on it. FMJ for scottfield with fanning or dual wield

[keen bolt]

Me too but like ...other 80% lol

[fluid locust]

slugs feel so cheap to use lol. I stole a dude's crown and king slugs after using a buckshot slate and I just absolutely deleted 2 dudes and was super surprised they died

[keen bolt]

Exactly...

You simply just... delete people

It's worse than a nitro even

Cause even no skill shitters can use them and have good success

[steel shoal]

What's the general consensus around the new Winfield Slate pump action?

[keen bolt]

Good shotgun

That's it

Slugs changes all shotgun into S tier tho

Not all but most

Especially the fast firing ones

[half stag]

if we talking buckshot, it's good for when you have no traits but there are better options once you get traits or the crown and king unlocked. with slugs errrr, why's it on the slate again? (read: it's op af)

[unkempt ravine]

decent but slugs are op on them

i personally dont like the range on the slate

[steel shoal]

interesting interesting

[half stag]

shotguns each have their own spread patterns and the slate is kinda meh (the spread pattern dictates the rng of the spread and how far a onetap is) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401019644938289153/975320833755066368/unknown.png

[keen bolt]

Quick shotgun analysis (Buck)
Romero - all or nothing. Cheap and very good if you can aim
Specter - basically like Romero but unnoticeably worse overall very solid
Rival - unreliable pos that presents itself as an upgrade to others (It's not!) But still ok due to high double tap speed
Slate - More accurate than rival but best part is that it's not trait dependent and also had high capacity

We're not talking about Crown and Terminus - we already know

[steel shoal]

lol lemat

Go home you're drunk

[half stag]

yea, lemat is only for people in breathing distance

[keen bolt]

Like melee rushers

It's basically desperate measure lol

Deploy anti-cowboy measure! Shoots lemat shotgun

[steel shoal]

it'd be funny if you could scarifice a shotgun or something from your own loadout ingame to tie it to a doorknob via wire

shotgun boobytrap

oop time to write an essay in #game-ideas

[unkempt ravine]

oh god imagine shotgun traps

[keen bolt]

People already make gun traps an idea xd

But damm

Shotgun trap?

[unkempt ravine]

imagine a lemat trap

[keen bolt]

Lmaoooo

[unkempt ravine]

shit would just piss on you then dip

[keen bolt]

50/50 lol

Or more like 30/70

[unkempt ravine]

or one tap you with only your toes

[steel shoal]

it'd be a funny reference to a supreme court case where an elderly couple rigged their vacant home with a shotgun because they had nonstop burglary problems

[keen bolt]

I already have enough with these insta kill traps tbh XD

[steel shoal]

was later deemed unlawful for you to rig your house with a shotgun boobytrap for unsuspecting visitors

[steel shoal]

you'd just have to, like, open the door from the side so you don't get blasted

[keen bolt]

Dude

That's what hunters are doing right now tho

Ngl I just had a game where I'm pissed with trapa

6 kills

On the same duo

And no we're not even camping bodies

We're the attacker attacking a shotgun duo

With a fking pistol

The 92 basically

Dudes got traps everywhere

And we basically died to trap

Very annoying

[fluid locust]

yea I had a game like that once. we killed like literally the whole server but them and they just camped inside the boss lair and I died to an insta kill trap trying to refrag my teammate. according to the game though they didn't get the kill so screw them lol.

[keen bolt]

XD

[fluid locust]

traps are extremely low skill and the fact they can insta kill is kinda dumb. like it's a pain to have to check every nook and crannie for some stupid trap

[keen bolt]

Like we just ran around the compound only having a SINGLE pistol

Headshotting them left and right

Dude died like 3 times each

[fluid locust]

like red barrel traps sure, it's a giant ass red barrel and I'm not going next to it anyway. but the double concertina/poison combo is irritating

[keen bolt]

We even climb ladder and try to push from 2nd floor (Upper Dasale)

And there I score another headshot against one of them

Then rush in and boom

I died to 2con + poison trap

Friend enters from another window

Also dies to trap

Like THESE PEOPLE TRAP 2nd floor now!?

A shotgun user!?

Can't even protect a balcony against pistol??? And need to rely on trap to win?

Like...

The most frustrating thing?

They are fuc***ng 6 stars

[keen bolt]

Basically that

[fluid locust]

do they actually enforce banning people who pre team? just caught 3 fucking idiots pre teaming in quickplay lmao

[vague patio]

@tawny meadow make that without getting any of your team getting downed

no damage is way to hard, considering desync, fall damage and ai being whatever

[jovial lodge]

You inspired me Amon

[tawny meadow]

Was thinking about that too, but for solo it would just be "extract with a token"

[tawny meadow]

Happy to inspire violence related summons 🫀

[vague patio]

i mean yea

solo is hard enough for that

[tawny meadow]

But i think there's already a quest for that, it would have been to differentiate

[vague patio]

maybe without going under 75 health?

[empty spade]

Please fix the freezing when people start fanning

[tawny meadow]

Let's try that too, i like it more

[digital shuttle]

Thanks crytek, for posting quickly the update on console

[steel shoal]

@past badger what do you mean by dueling music?

isn't a big part of the gameplay that you need to be able to focus on the ambience of the world, making music that plays when you're in a fight a big distraction?

sounds fair

[hollow plaza]

Does it tell u anywhere when hunt will be back online for console ps5

[warm zephyr]

@tight topaz go touch bayou grass

[hollow plaza]

Does the new wolf pack give u weapons or only skins I thought there was a new hand gun I can find it

[crystal plume]

DLCs are only cosmetic

There's a new pistol that was unlocked for everyone now in 1.8.1 but was originally available through an event some time ago

[round maple]

I actually really like this idea. In my mind medium ammo is just kinda meh right now. Why not run compact and spam more? Or long ammo and have the range/pentration? Medium ammo is just compact with slightly more range in it's current state.
#game-ideas message

[steel shoal]

@empty tangle call it the Harmonica

[karmic ivy]

@balmy aspen I think I would prefer things to stay the way they are. I like it as it is.

For me its a case of if It works, don't fix whats not broken. The balance of the in game economy is good. This would change that, and what do you get for it? Another way to say it is... is what you proposed adding, worth rebuilding the economy? And would it be better? That is where I have doubt. I don't think it would be better.

[balmy aspen]

Fair enough. I see it otherwise. Yes I do think it's worth it. As it stands the main income for the game is DLC's. You can tell by the amount of them. Does not bother me, i adore it.
Help me understand why the economy would change because the only difference is that you can stack your bank and use it on more things. once you are prestige 100 it does not matter anymore. it does not matter if you just don't want to prestige either.

I really can't see what changes when all guns are locked behind XP anyway.
They only thing changing to find more ways to use your currencies on. I mean they got a Clean button for crying out loud 🙂

[bronze granite]

Update 1.8.1 - worst patch ever.

[karmic ivy]

why?

[winged copper]

Performance is fucked for one

[queen jungle]

Idk who @'d me but pls suck on a lemon

[radiant river]

@late crescent you can click the grey squares to only highlight the tools slot and use a load out for knife and medkits

[late crescent]

That's not a solution

If you have a loadout that's got all four equipment slots filled, but you only have 3 out of 4 unlocked, it is not going to help

[tribal wyvern]

Cuz they implemented a pretty gamebreaking bug.
Basically if you're a legendary hunter & sniping, you're invisible to the average player.

At high object rendering, you can only see a legendary hunter up to ca167m.
Alot shorter distance if you have low. Then it's less than 100m.

So right now, you should reduce any other setting (if you have limited specs). And have object rendering on High.
otherwise you might die to someone whos invisible

Rachta Z has a video on it.

Crytek for some reason is very creative with their bugs & it always has to be a gamebreaking one.
They got no chill with bugs, it's either bugs to break the game in half or nothing.

[late crescent]

You're making it sound like Crytek puts the bugs in on purpose

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[minor tinsel]

I hope its okay to say this but the new two wolf themed Hunters are pretty boring and by no means justify a price of around 900 Hunt Dollars.

[tribal wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-big-bang-theory-its-a-possibility-maybe-gif-14985643

[tribal wyvern]

This is not the Gulag, you can say whatever u want aslong as you're not attacking someone.

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[fluid locust]

I mean bugs are a low priority fix for them. Unless it involves people getting blood bonds. Then they gotta fix it instantly.

[onyx edge]

@soft sparrow We already pretty much have a server wipe one that requires 8 kills in a single round.

[late crescent]

That sounds like a dude-trust-me sort of thing

[fluid locust]

I mean the ladder exploit was in the game for a month or more. Gold cash register bug was in there for like 2 weeks or less.

[late crescent]

Do you honestly think Crytek implements a bug, then all devs put their feet up like "ya, not my problem".

Pinpointing the source of a bug is not as easy at it seems. Some bugs are easier to fix than others.

[vague patio]

cause the ladder bug require a rework of the movement

like

not all bugs are equally hard to fix

[fluid locust]

No I'm not the one who said they put bugs in purpose. They just don't seem to care to put out a hotfix to fix game breaking ones. And they sit on a fix and they're like "eh we'll just wait until the next update"

[vague patio]

thats like... literaly not true

considering the bad starts of both 1.7 and 1.8, they put out a lot of hotfixes

[late crescent]

Stop giving gamers a bad reputation and think about what you're criticizing for a moment

[vague patio]

they are avid defenders of their bad reputation lol

[fluid locust]

but.. it literally is true. they had the ladder exploit fix on test server and never released it as a hot fix. it was ready for like a week or two.

[vague patio]

cause they wanted people to test it if it really worked...

[fluid locust]

ah yes the entire 4 people on the test server xd

• you'd have to know how to do it to test if it worked...

[vague patio]

yea

due to the poeple who spammed it, it wasnt hard to figure out

[fluid locust]

I highly doubt that most people that DO know how to do it would even give feedback whether it was fixed or not so they can abuse it more

[vague patio]

the only thing actually was the short delay of the update from last week to monday

[minor tinsel]

I like that

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Tilte : Springfield Bayonet

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[glass fractal]

anyone got a bug that enemy player models do not render...?

It has just happened the third time now that I fought against invisible hunters, which just got rendered/not invisible anymore if I used the scope of my weapon.

what is this..?

if they are too far away, they won't render/are invisible to me

[steel shoal]

It’s a known bug

Legendary hunters specifically have render distance requirements that need them to be closer to you to be able to see

The bug apparently was introduced this update, and it makes any legendary hunter with a long range sniper gain an immediate advantage

[glass fractal]

lovely..."update". thanks for the heads-up, appreciate it

[rustic cloud]

just had 2 games in a row of people doing summons and not participating for the bounty, has anyone else encountered this since the new summons implementation?

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[chilly shell]

servers not working !

[glass fractal]

you cannot be serious, Crytek. What kind of bug is this pls?! this is GAME BREAKING. What. The. Heck?

if AI does not render - fine. But other frigging players..?

had this the fifth time now. Being shot by invisible boys.

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[tribal wyvern]

If you want details, check Rachta Zs video. He goes more indept just showing the distances.
And which option to turn High to lower this "advantage"

[karmic ivy]

#pc-announcements message

[tribal wyvern]

Its a short video, but Object Texture, keep it on high.

[worn ocean]

why are community managers muting channels

quite cringe

here's some feedback! don't do that!

[glass fractal]

fantastic...

[tribal wyvern]

@umbral garden
I like the creative thoughts behind these, but they're far to easy.
You can do like 7 of them in 1 game.

Theres no challenge or point to them, some of them is just playing the game like extracting, killing ducks. To headshot 6 enemies including zombies, i do that already when im going to extract.

Also don't see any point to having a challenge that is literally just "don't take the bounty" which goes against the point of the game.

And also what would be the reward for any of them? 10 hunt dollars?

[umbral garden]

my thought would be you mix them in with the harder quests and they have a small reward of like 200-500hunt dollars

and “don’t take the bounty” is pretty easy considering you have two teammates and it’s a small reward anyway so who cares if you miss that one

[tribal wyvern]

They cannot give that much lol .
The difficult ones gives that atm.

As i said, these ones can give 20 hunt dollars at max.

Headshotting 6 zombies in a row, extracting on a boat, killing ducks

[tribal wyvern]

This is my very issue with your idea, it's far to easy quests.

@steel shoal
Was upvoting your idea until i got to the part where Solos can take both bounties, no.
They are already getting a bonus. Theres no need for extra bonuses.

[hollow plaza]

Is there a hardcore mode on hunt show down

[umbral garden]

then don’t upvote it idk what else to say lmao

[umbral garden]

then make the hard ones give mroe , 2-500 isn’t even a lot that’s like 1 loadout

[tribal wyvern]

Ye & you usually get that from extracting a bounty, which can be a time investment from 10min to 40

More on the 500 part tho

But imagine killing 1 pack of ducks, bam 200 hunt dollars.

And it's a feedback discussion channel, not sure what kind of suggestion it is if you cannot argue for it & answere criticism.

Some of the summons could be adjusted, its all on what Crytek wants this quest system to be.

But to me it should be going out of your way to do something different.
Like make an active choice. "Aight so now i need to run Saber & do X Y Z."
Or something. Not just play the game.

Even the kill 5 immolators, pick up clues, find the boss, could be adjusted aswell.
This is their first draft.

[unkempt ravine]

in what way

[tribal wyvern]

^closest to that is prob solo xd

[unkempt ravine]

cuz u can make you own hardcore mode with shit loadouts or by going in with your bare fists

[umbral garden]

in my like my personal head cannon you would kill a large amount of ducks, and considering killing ducks requires a lantern or explosive or gunfire killing a large number means making noise in several matches

that’s also why i put so many in the same suggestion was so some of them would be nice if they’re tweaked and some wouldn’t be

[hollow plaza]

@unkempt ravine I see a guy say something about hardcord mode in hunt I was just wondering about what he ment that's why I ask he mentioned no HUD or something.

[unkempt ravine]

oh u can change the steam hunt files so that u have no hud

theres no actual hardcore mode

its just a setting u can change

[pallid ingot]

why get normal servers for our game? we will better do some new skin DLC"s for more money! )))

[torpid sail]

@olive grove actually the golden cash register spawns were bugged (found three at the same location within ONE day), so not so worried about that change ^^

and you can fulfill arbitrary summons multiple times to get the 25BB, so also not too bad actually

but the new wave of legandary prices are just absurd

[dusty pendant]

The two do not oppose eachother.

[fluid locust]

ye time to wait like another month for another massively game breaking bug to be fixed

but at least they fixed the golden cash register right guys?

[pallid ingot]

well you can put ppl work and money in to the good code and server rent or you can design some new skins. im playing the game for 4 years and its getting more and more buggy.

[native lodge]

how do you pay people to work on your code and other aspects of the game?

how do you get servers?

[dusty pendant]

A massive portion(I surmise) of the money they get is FROM the new skins, lmao. They have to sell the skins to fix anything. I don't see where the misunderstanding is.

[native lodge]

in short games need to make sales to continue functioning. Sales not only being for the base game but skins too. that allow for the upkeep on running servers and making new content

not saying you can't voice complaints either, I have many times, but I also try to be as informed as I can be

[queen jungle]

@weak ruin ah yes, I love my spare half-bullet for my Dolch

[weak ruin]

Yeah, part of my point with thr suggestion

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[late wind]

You'd think that for all the money Crytek spends on a monetization expert's salary they might come to the conclusion that poor balance + refusal to adequately punish exploits might be bad for the "Hunt: Showdown" brand.

I mean seriously. I can't in good conscience recommend this game to anyone I know.

Every other game in an alleged free-for-all game winds up with you getting ganked by multiple teams running the exact same guns.

[burnt mulch]

*conscience

[late wind]

Thanks. Autocorrect got me.

[final lion]

the slate ever going to get nerfed? pretty over like 80% of my deaths being to it with slugs

[crystal plume]

It has just been unlocked for those who didn't get it from the event so it's being used a lot

It'll settle down after a bit like usual

[chilly scaffold]

Nerf Dum Dum Ammo on Nitro its getting ridiculous with the amount of people using Nitro Dum Dum

[late wind]

Imo the slate isn't the problem. Slugs are. The slate with standard buckshot is as meme tier as any other shotgun.

[half stag]

^ facts

and they nerfed the shotgun overall, making buckshot even worse, just cuz it has slugs (rather than nerfing only slugs xd)

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[hallow robin]

You hunt patch introduced way more bugs than it fixed. I suspect it was the ladder glitch "fix" that cause what I seeing now. People are 1 shooting with long ammo to the body on folks that are full hp. This may have to do with the fact about 6 times now while I shoot the bow. One bow shot is producing 2 arrows almost on the exact same spot. So I suspect guns are double firing. 2 bullets / arrow / bolt 1 shot. With the ladder glitch I heard from a friend this was possible to do with the ladder glitch. Now it is just happening randomly. I just saw a bulet hit back to back and it was doubled.

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[unborn dagger]

So you going to send us video evidence or something?

[burnt mulch]

i heard from a friend the ladder glitch can steal your girlfriend

[rigid basalt]

@soft sparrow one of ur quests would encourage instaburning i would remove that from the suggestion if i where you

if i should ever meet u ingame i ll instabrun and concertinabomb you right away instabruning is just unnessecary

[plush ledge]

Burning is fine what I don't get is when it's a 3v1 against you and you fight them they fall back to burn your mates and camp the bodies. Guys you know where I am, I actively fight you, it's 3v1, how much more advantage do you need?

[sick anvil]

obviously you are very scary they need 3 more people to feel its a fair match

[plush ledge]

My guess is more that those guys are really insecure and don't know what to do or how to push someone when it's outside of their comfort zone aka camping something.

When I've mates who insta burn no matter the situation it's almost always the guy who lacks the skill in a open fight. Their first instinct is to burn and camp the body until it's burned out complaining that his mates didn't push in their shotgun to choke him

[rigid basalt]

3v1 burners are just noobs i think they should put burining players as a factor to raise your mmr so those people who constantly burn also get lobbys that can deal with that kind of playstyle

[true hearth]

I just burn if the enemy keeps running away. I'm not playing cat and mouse for 15 minutes

[sick anvil]

Salt is best served with chocolate

[lunar kettle]

With fire.

I burn them whenever they do not continue the fight. Are they running? Fire. Do they not fight? Fire.

Once they are burned out, I move on to the bounty.

There is no reason to wait for them to eventually feel ready to continue the fight. Just put pressure on them all the time.

[sick anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-rabbit-gif-16132206

[rigid basalt]

i agree with that thats the right way only burning when its the only way to stop them from just camping and runing away

[lunar kettle]

Sorry. Only the first two words was about your chocolate statement

[steel shoal]

other than being fustrating to play against, what's wrong gameplay-wise to burn a downed enemy?

I'm fairly new to the game so it might just be a community taboo

[lunar kettle]

Nothing. Some people just don't like it.

[sick anvil]

I talk about salt and chocolate and you tag me about burning ?
how are those two related , Have you tried sea salt chocolate ever ?

[lunar kettle]

It's a valid way to deal with the situation.

[lunar kettle]

Never but I will write it down for future situations at the market.

[rigid basalt]

its kind of split comunity thing

[lunar kettle]

I just won't waste time for nothing.

[plush ledge]

I like it more to not burn and wait for the runners to crouch back for the revive, kill them and if you time it right you can farm the revive too

[vapid garden]

@steel shoal I've already recommended the blowpipe before and it was received well #game-ideas message I myself wanted it in the game and even 3d modelled the image for it, although I think it would serve better as pure AI killer rather than for raw damage doing less then the throwing knife but because of the poisoned darts they're highly efficient for add killing. Obviously these darts aren't lethal to players and would need at least too up-close to kill since the actual damage of the dart itself isn't a huge amount with a low power blowpipe. Also being unable to shoot when out of breath is a good extra feature I didn't consider

[fluid locust]

people who think the dolch should be buffed are also noobs xd

[warm zephyr]

@rigid plinth no. What you're suggesting is not for this game

[half stag]

Does he forget how much reserve ammo the vetterli gets? Lmao

[rigid plinth]

What do you mean by that?

[warm zephyr]

Long guns just one tap downed hunters. That's just built into the core of the game

Also slugs don't one tap at close range is just counter intuitive

[rigid plinth]

Okay. But that's the issue. It makes it so if your genuinely trying to use the "best loudout" there's only a select few guns.

Like there are so many guns in the game

Why should a handful be genuinely worth using as long as your not in a budget?

Why use a Winfield when you have money for a mosin. Why use a Springfield when you can just use a mosin. Why use a Sparks when you can just use a mosin

Why use buckshot when slugs is way better

[warm zephyr]

Bruh

Touch bayou grass

Get some hours in

[steady hamlet]

There's a lot of reasons to use a winfield over a mosin and cost is only one of those reasons

[warm zephyr]

Have you even tried winfield fmj?

Would pick it over mosin most of the time

[lunar kettle]

Best loadout is the best loadout. It's like on top of the rest. It should be like that.

Still the 'best loadout' has some weekness and other loadouts can beat them there.

[warm zephyr]

Also i can't understand some of your sentences

[rigid plinth]

English is not my first language so sorry in advance for that haha

[warm zephyr]

Bruh

English is my third language if you don't count dialects

Point is

Your idea just ain't gonna fly

I agree that slugs are quite a bit more powerful than they should be

But it doesn't qualify a non one shot

[steady hamlet]

Slugs also give you the fun ability to completely miss someone with a shotgun and do 0 damage

[warm zephyr]

In close ranges, vetteeli beats most long guns in downed hunters

[rigid plinth]

I know theres a fair few reasons, know it certainly has more fire rate Theres a variation that holds way more bullets. But your more likely to get a kill with a mosin then a Winfield. Since hitting someone at range stings the most with a mosin than a Winfield and this game does tend to have some pretty far away fights a fair few times.

[warm zephyr]

At some point

More efficient guns are just more efficient

That's just what long ammo is

[rigid plinth]

What would you suggest if not a non one shot. Since, don't know what would be a nerf if it still one shots

[steady hamlet]

'More likely to get a kill with a mosin than a winfield' I'm curious as to what you mean yb that.

[warm zephyr]

Bruh winfield is a closer range gun

[rigid plinth]

I mean that realistically, most hunters get body shots

[steady hamlet]

Because close range, you probably won't.
Both can dome someone. Winfield has the ammo capacity to win these long term engagemnets. have the speed. Both are going to two tap upper torso

[warm zephyr]

If you're trying to kill with a winfield at mosin range

[steady hamlet]

Unless winfield isn't a two to the chest down in which case I'm throwing it into the trash

[warm zephyr]

That's on you

[rigid plinth]

And nosing just does way more damage, so you accidently guy someone in the hands or something

[steady hamlet]

Nah this bitch does 110

[rigid plinth]

Mosin is more likely to kill then the winfield

[warm zephyr]

Bruh

[steady hamlet]

We just said it basically won't.

[warm zephyr]

Touch some bayou grass

[steady hamlet]

Both are going to be a two tap to the chest.

Both are going to one tap the head.

One of these is a lot faster than the other.

One of these is better for range (mosin)

They have differnet uses.

[warm zephyr]

I'm done here. Your ideas just ain't interesting nor are they good

[steady hamlet]

One of these can also machine gun someone with levering.

The guy using a mosin who taps your chest and starts whipping out his pistol loses 4/5 times to the guy with a winfield who just fires again because levering is fast as fuck

[rigid plinth]

Bro levering has shat on me a fair few times haha. It's scary

[rigid plinth]

Copy that doood

[steady hamlet]

It's very good for newer people

[warm zephyr]

You problem

[steady hamlet]

And in general

[rigid plinth]

Definitely in general, can really clutch out some situations, specially since usually people aren't assuming you have levering

Don't know. Just think it's kinda lame that in a game with so many guns. You can almost reliably get at least one upper cut it mosin per game since someone Will bring it

[warm zephyr]

Wow ok. Dude you really have to clock some more hours in

Afaik, people rarely uses the winfield without traits

[steel shoal]

yo that's some sick modeling! great job

and I'm in agreement that it should probably just be an AI/noise killer

[rigid plinth]

I mean, I have 300 hours, definitely more to come. I've just felt that it's a bit boring that it's rare to not go against the same guns over n over unless their on a budget

[warm zephyr]

Generally. I don't agree with you because i don't think you know what you're talking about

Bruh 300hrs

You're a baby

Welcome to the bayou!

Play more before giving feedback

[plush ledge]

Nothing wrong with feedback tho

[rigid plinth]

Mean. It doesn't bother that only roughly the same 3-4 guns out of 20+ guns is a bit odd?

Like don't get me wrong, I won't pretend that I have the perfect ideas, it's just a suggestion after all

But I still firmly believe like something could be done to not make those same guns so so appealing when hunt dollars aren't an issue.

The sparks I don't mind since it's a one shot hefty reload gun so it's definitely fine. Scary too

[warm zephyr]

It's not that long ammo is too good

It's just that medium ammo is shit

Same falloff as compact

Marginally beteer pen than compact

[rigid plinth]

That I can definitely agree with since. I love using the scottfield since just think it's a cool gun but. If I'm wanting to do good on a budget. Caldwell conversion pistol is used most of the time

Specially with metal jacket rounds

Medium ammo could certainly use a buff

[warm zephyr]

You're right. I'm quite harsh here.

[rigid basalt]

@sharp turret u might wanna call it sparks bayonet instead of riposte since a riposte is a blade and on your picture you showed a spike and not a riposte

[warm zephyr]

Base Scottfield needs a buff for the fire rate imo

[rigid plinth]

Doesn't the scoffield actually shoot slower then the Caldwell conversion?

[warm zephyr]

Too slow

[rigid plinth]

And the muzzle velocity too

Don't that slower as well?

Isn't*

[warm zephyr]

Muzzle velocity i can get behind. It's a top break revolver

[rigid plinth]

True dat

But could certainly use a buff in firing a bit master

Funny enough, think the spitfire is the only reason I still use the scottfield

[warm zephyr]

Spitfire is a game changer

[rigid plinth]

Since personally prefer the Caldwell sights but spitfire too good to be annoyed by them sights

[plush ledge]

Spitfire and fmj for medium ammo the only reason to use a scotfield

[warm zephyr]

It's like the vetterli. 130dmg with negligible drawbacks

[fluid locust]

long ammo is too good lol

[rigid plinth]

It's very nice.

[warm zephyr]

You forgot the swift

I think long ammo is just right. They just need to buff medium

[fluid locust]

ah yes the ammo that has been meta for 4 years jUsT rIgHt

[rigid plinth]

That said, looking back on my suggestions, feel like the only ones are now more genuinely believe in are the uppercut change, since it's just faster velocity, hits harder etc. And the slugs change since. Truth be told, making a lot more weapons not one shot when missing health

Might make the game into a bit slug fest were people just

Don't fuggin die haha

[warm zephyr]

I think it should do what it is doing

[wet saffron]

there is always gonna be a meta

[warm zephyr]

Medium just needs to be better to be more competitive

[fluid locust]

yea sure but to have the same thing meta since it's existence is ridiculous and means that the thing that is meta has literally not been dethroned because it is TOO good

[warm zephyr]

It's meta because it has no competitors

Vetterli is just shy of that range

[rigid plinth]

@warm zephyr Do you think the uppercut should be changed, assuming they never touch medium ammo?

[warm zephyr]

Because of medium ammo

Idk. They need to add more long pistols.

[rigid plinth]

Since it bought if making it have way more sway so it makes sense to use a medium mosin or something for long ammo when you want something small

Since the uppercut is a pocket mosin. That isn't the half stock mosin

[warm zephyr]

Because it's the only option i don't want it to be bad

[rigid plinth]

And it has less sway then a half rifle

[warm zephyr]

The half rifle needs buff

[rigid plinth]

Definitely. Like. Either nerf uppercut to be unwieldly. More sway so it's less precise when it comes to shooting

Or buff half rifles so it makes sense to bring them rather just go. "I'll just use an uppercut"

[wet saffron]

It's always gonna be long ammo, unless you nerf it to shit in comparison

That's just how it is

[warm zephyr]

There is also the option of buffing other ammo?

[vapid garden]

thanks dude, hoping the idea gets some more recognition after your suggestions too. Don't think a blowpipe is a top priority for crytek but it would work as a great alternative to the throwing knives or axes.

[wet saffron]

yes, but it won't affect the powerlevel of long ammo in general

[warm zephyr]

Agree to disagree.

[wet saffron]

it will remain at the top no matter if you buff medium

[warm zephyr]

There's only so much space on the pie

[wet saffron]

unless medium becomes better than long

but i don't see that happening

[warm zephyr]

It can be in closer ranges

[wet saffron]

it already is in closer ranges

[steel shoal]

yeah it'd be an awesome option

[wet saffron]

it has the firerate advantage for that

[warm zephyr]

Thats the point

Yep. Bye lads

[wet saffron]

it's already alot more diverse as it was before

but long ammo is still meta

and will remain meta

[rigid plinth]

Wonder how the idea of giving long ammo less bullets sounds like. Like less spare ammo on long ammo guns, then buffed medium ammo. So long guns are more powerful and heavy hitting but missing shots is way more detrimental then medium to compact

[wet saffron]

that will be an unshakeable constant in this game

[rigid plinth]

Might encourage long ammo users to always bring the ammo box. Which in turn shakes up the go to 2 health items 2 fragbombs consumables

[wet saffron]

Idk who you play against, but i rarely see 2 Vit 2 frag nowadays

[frosty garnet]

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Titel: Rebuilding the weapon equipment menue.

My issue with the current way u equip weapons is that there are soooo many variants including the ever growing amount of skins which are added to the game. What about including the skins in the variant they represent. Like mouse click on the weapon and THEN the skins pop up. Would make it a lot easier. And yes I know the menue has filters to sort out what you need. However since I normally scroll and scroll until I reach the end, I find this pretty ineficient.
Maybe someone thinks the same. 😅```

[fluid locust]

or it can literally just not be good at everything lmao. one shot downed hunters? check. best velocity? check. can have near hitscan velocity with spitzer? check. best damage and damage dropoff? check. best penetration other than FMJ/special ammo like nitro? check.

[rigid plinth]

Generally when it's an explosion, it's usually a fragbomb in my experience.

[fluid locust]

and the downside is... absolutely nothing

[wet saffron]

i don't think that will change the weapon meta too much. The community is already happily playing slow and steady, it will just become slower, since now they have to "make the shot count"

[rigid plinth]

That is a fair point and can't nerf the ammo too hard since then

It's downright dumb

Though then again it's hard to say what would happen if you suddenly only had

One reload with like 3 spare bullets on all of those long ammo guns

Specially with wallbangs being appealing a fair bit of the time

[wet saffron]

i'm not even getting into that argument, cause its silly.

[rigid plinth]

@wet saffron curious on your thoughts about slugs

Think their a bit too powerful? Considering every other shotgun ammo type has a gimmick that makes them not be a straight upgrade?

[wet saffron]

i like the slugs personally

gives you more options to play agressive on medium range

can be kinda meh close range, since you can miss the onetap alot easier

[rigid plinth]

Feel like my dislike for them comes naturally since, I'm a pretty agressive player but tend to use rifles/non shotguns

So like my only way to "counter" a shotgun indoors is to be very careful, generally peek from range and wall bang corners I think someone Is waiting for Me on. The distance part gets countered by the slug and guess it can feel unfair that regardless if I was far away, or close, I'm in one shot range

And I gotta land a headshot to match him in that regard

[wet saffron]

indoors you are at a disadvantage regardless of him having slugs or not

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My issue with the current way u equip weapons is that there are soooo many variants including the ever growing amount of skins which are added to the game. What about including the skins in the variant they represent. Like mouse click on the weapon and THEN the skins pop up. Would make it a lot easier. And yes I know the menue has filters to sort out what you need. However since I normally scroll and scroll until I reach the end, I find this pretty ineficient.
Maybe someone thinks the same. 😅```

[fluid locust]

ah yes because there is no argument lol. it's a fact

[wet saffron]

yes.

[frosty garnet]

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Would be great to be able to block with melee weapons```

[rigid plinth]

True. But there's definitely in my opinion, more survivality against a buckshot that can miss a lot of the shots and not kill you vs the slug just one tapping you

Regardless of what your trying to do

Funny enough, despite using rifles n stuff indoors. Buckshot shotguns are way more fun to go against then like, a slug. Since with buckshot, I have a chance to bait out the shot/damage

While slugs, I ain't got wiggle room except I hope he misses

Not to mention they gotta be pretty darn close to even be allowed to one shot me

[wet saffron]

i don't understand why you have less of a chance to bait out a shot there. Against a shotgun indoors is the same for both, you hope he chokes and misses you.

most corridors are well within effective range for a shotty with buckshot indoors

[rigid plinth]

Because indoors, you can bait out if your next to a wall, a bit of a jiggle peek where you show your body but immediately return to cover, they might shoot and it might hit your hand, which you the. Run to make distance if their too close and the fight can spiral from there, vs slugs just possibly downing you in for doing that jiggle.

Unless of course he's in front of you with no cover or anything between you in that case

[wet saffron]

you can just die to the buckshot as well

[rigid plinth]

Buckshot or slug, your eating the dirt

[wet saffron]

and the slug can easily just hit arm/shoulder

and you cry

or go through, below your armpit

no hit

[rigid plinth]

Yeah haha. Guess my salt comes from like, usually if I'm dead you. Shotgun, it was a slug

And usually at a range that you don't expect to die from

Unless they fair and square got super close and buckshot dumpstered me back to the main menu

Guess it's hard to say if slugs are an "issue" or it's just an issue that only comes up with a player like me. Who plays a bit aggressive without shotguns and generally survives buckshots since as long as you ain't kissing the barrel of the gun and got some cover n distance and you jiggle peek every corner, very likely you won't insta die, hopefully.

Anyways gonna be heading to bed, been a long night. Been quite the fascinating discussions

Goodnightooo

[wet saffron]

[rigid plinth]

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A Firing range (singleplayer). Where there are moving targets in various distances in walk and running speed. So you could learn to know better how much you need to lead with what weapon in what distance. Would only let new players to get familiar with weapons faster.```

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Maybe someone thinks the same. 😅```

[lone aurora]

we are getting to a point where the announcement could be "we are taking the servers online" 😄

[steel shoal]

@rigid plinth me, a new player, writing down the meta guns for future reference

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[round maple]

@fathom geyser Maybe if you played the game for as long as many of us you would be jaded too. Time and time again Crytek releases patches where old bugs get re-introduced after a "fix." Render bug was already a known issue from a previous test server that was fixed and re-introduced. It should have been caught.

[fathom geyser]

cry about it

[steel shoal]

to be fair, if you fixed a known bug and it began to reappear the next update after the fix presumably worked, it'd be reaonable to presume that the cause of the bug is different this time. Pinpointing the origins of such bugs is already a challenge in its own right, especially when the solution that worked for x amount of time stops working.
It'd be great to see the devs be more forward in communicating with the playerbase in what they're doing, but they have their own cost-benifit analysis they have to take into account as well. Get potentially bad press by openly admitting that your game has some serious bugs? or stay silent and take care of it? Both have their pros and their cons.

[fathom geyser]

^

[unborn smelt]

Especially the first part of this is something many people fail to understand... often times bug fixes arent actual bug fixes - they are workarounds. Because to really fix a bug you need to know the exact origin which is oftentimes really hard to barely possible to pinpoint

Way too many people think of it as black and white - a bug being fixed can but doesnt necessarily mean the underlying issue is fixed too.