feedback-discussion

[vital drum]

Movement alone with no inertia turned hunt into a bit of a circus back them

Games change significantly once the player base adapts, that's one of the biggest source of change always

[hot vigil]

The Saber Dance Meta!

[vital drum]

I preferred the Machete Dab Dance

You covered your head and there was no limb penetration

So it was ultra difficult to headshot you

[native lodge]

crouch spam

[hot vigil]

Poor machete it was nerfed and never recovered.

[bronze quail]

Uppercut speed reload

No recoil avto

Medium ammo dolch

[vital drum]

Hunt was more emotional and felt mysterious when everyone was exploring it

[bronze quail]

winfield rof

[vital drum]

But a lot of things about old Hunt I wouldn't want back

[hot vigil]

And yes @vital drum I agree, we can always muse back upon the past think them of better (or worse) times. But nevertheless, feel there is merit to the criticism of such things as dualies feeling wrong after we've been dealing with them for this long and still feel this strongly about them.

[upbeat ivy]

crysis when

[vital drum]

Yeah there is always room for criticism of course

Even changes I might like can be strongly disliked by someone else, doesn't mean they're wrong of course

[bronze quail]

I think that the best days of hunt were between 1.0 and 1.3

Or maybe between 0.6 and 1.3

[vital drum]

I don't have an issue with duallies, but I also die to them very-very rarely

And I like taking good ol' dual paxes for a spin from time to time

[burnt mulch]

any horror/mystery game will stop being horrifying/mysterious when it's figured out.

[hot vigil]

I would love to do that, but man, Scottfield just feels so much better

[vital drum]

Pax feels a little nostalgic to me, I've had really good times with it when duallies were released

[bronze quail]

Double pax god

I have some clips with double pax

60m hs

Crazy af

[hot vigil]

I love the Pax, my go-to side-arm, but dualies and Scottfield spitfire makes it feel like a bad choice :b

[vital drum]

Pax spread is so tight though

Although in general yeah, I like scottfield and its variants more in almost every way

Hope pax gets some love with variants too

[hot vigil]

But there conversion outclass it :b

[vital drum]

but conversion looks like a toy gun

I gotta feel cool

[bronze quail]

I liked conversion back on Qs days

I remember taking sparks + conversion and every kill that I got was like:
Shot with sparks, miss
Shot with conversion, headshot

It was so funny to use for follow ups

[hot vigil]

I can admire that, I'm too much of a numbers guy tho. I don't want every weapon to be S-tier, but I want them to have a reason to exist.

[bronze quail]

Looks like a lot of weapons have been forgotten

[hot vigil]

Machete, Centennial & Pax comes to mind, maaaaybe the Nagant.

[bronze quail]

Duster variants with extreme stamina usage

[vital drum]

I enjoy memes nowadays more than optimizing tbh. But yeah, there are further adjustments I'd like to see. Long ammo is still quite prevalent in my matches, which is so stale at this point. And I really am not a fan of the nitro comeback with dumdum

[bronze quail]

Centennial is fine atm imo

[vital drum]

I've had a good time with centennial+spitfire

[bronze quail]

Dum dum makes no sense

I can't really understand why they decided to make that exception

Dum dum nitro*

[vital drum]

I think spitfire's addition was an indirect buff to centennial, giving it a more competitive sidearm

[bronze quail]

Scottfield in general was a centennial buff

For fmj imo

[vital drum]

Yeah fmj can feel nice for sure

[hot vigil]

I just want a slight crosshair spread and faster firespeed for the centennial.
Crosshair, just BC levering is not an option at all, like I get it can't be Winnie level, but with the overall nerf, the Centennial is just laughable tbh.
And the fire rate, just change it with the Vetterli, that rifle always does SO many things better than Cenni and it makes no fucking sense a bolt action have faster fire rate than a lever action

[vital drum]

Oh yeah making levering viable on it would be nice for sure

I agree in general, I wouldn't mind it being buffed further

[hot vigil]

Just slightly, BC it was always really bad pre-nerf, like crouch levering had worse spread than most shotguns 😂

[bronze quail]

I would like a little bit more of his range too

I stopped using centennial after hitting too many out of range headshots

Last time a tagged one in the head, then i tagged him in the chest and he was still running lol.
Never.used again

[queen jungle]

@vague patio cut to Lebel, crying in the corner

[safe mountain]

Crytek y la conchas putas de sus viejas, fixeen las putas hitbox hijos de re mil re puta.

[queen jungle]

I don’t speak English sorry

[safe mountain]

xD

They need to fix some hitboxes of objects and trees in the world. I constantly having issues at the hour of shot between branches or wooden boards.

[jade zodiac]

fix this

it happens randomly after matches idk why.

[frigid folio]

Like i said, the time it takes to banish is plenty of time to cross the entire map from corner to corner once the banish has started. I've had to do it multiple times, without stam shots. So the team who has done the objective should not be getting punished because you're team is being too slow to get to the objective. And as for the tension of combat, that is the best part of the game for YOU. It's your opinion on whats the best part, a lot of people; myself included would agree with you. But for some people they arent interested in fighting every single last person on the map. They are happy to play objective and fight people when they have to, because at the end of the game they are technically winning by extracting with the bounty. And that alone is thrill enough for many gamers.

"Surviving by having something to survive" would be like saying to a soccer team who just won a game 1-0 after scoring because the oppositions keeper wasnt in the goals (maybe he ran down field or something i dont know) that they didnt win because they didnt beat the keeper to score a goal. No they won, they beat the other team. Same with hunt, no they won. They got the bounty and managed to get out of the map. It is your job as a non-bounty team to prevent them from having the chance to banish, pick up the bounty and then extract. There is plenty of time to get there and stop them, I personally have banished a boss when the other bounty was at 20% banish and still had time to get to their bounty compound to fight them before they left (admittedly yes with the help of a stam shot). So in my opinion (again all of this is an opinion, im not saying what you said is wrong. Just that I don't agree with it) there is no reason to extend the time of extracting.

[spice topaz]

In a nutshell the banishing team owns you nothing. If you are too hung up on getting that one kill to not disengage and go for the bounty then you live by that. If no one shows up at the lair when you have banished the boss on a single boss map why would you go out of your ways to search for those other players. Personally I always go for the gauntlet on a two boss map with few exceptions but again that is not something to be expected from everyone.

[frosty garnet]

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[queen jungle]

@feral crag IIRC the devs once stated they decided against leaning in Hunt as they want engagements to be more "direct", same reason why there's no prone position.

[vague patio]

what is left out in player control is incorporated in map design

[vague patio]

already has such a big magazin, plus has an internal tube mag.

berthier would be weird, as it would remove the gimmick of the gun

the only other rifle o can see would benefit to an reasonable amount would be the vetterli. but its also has a tube mag

[rocky orchid]

@half stag they said yesterday on gameplay devstream, that they are already in progress to implement newest cryengine into hunt, but it is not easy to implement a complete "new engine" into a running/live service game so this will take a while

[half stag]

great to hear

I normally don't view the gameplay devstreams, so I didn't know

[rocky orchid]

i dont watch it either.. this time i wanted to know if they were talking about the current situation / state the game is in

[half stag]

prob explains also why the roadmap for this year is a bit lackluster when it comes to gamechanging features or content

would be better if they just did all the major changes like 2d replay and custom hunters on the newer engine rather than doing it on the crappier version, and then needing to port it over to the new one

[rocky orchid]

yes.. i would love to see all the implements in update 2.0.. so it is like Hunt 2.0

from 1.8 to 1.9.9 it should be all about bug fixes

[steady prism]

Agreed

[vague patio]

1.10.0

so is there a roadmap (blog post) or is it just dev talk in the streams?

[half stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSG3gegBLLI

[vague patio]

oh, ok. watched it, so nothing "new"

[jovial lodge]

No blog post as of now

[vague patio]

just expected something came out in the last 2 weeks

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[clever prawn]

@brittle glacier hey man, this is already in the game! It's a really small icon in the southeast side of the screen.

Southwest*

[brittle glacier]

Oh thats my fault. Thanks for telling me!

[clever prawn]

It looks similar to this I believe

It's really small, to the right of the event icons

[brittle glacier]

thank you!

[vague patio]

@onyx edge dont stop there, remove triggering any soundtraps through walls

[wet saffron]

👆 This. Also tune down the fire sound at Fort Bolden. Can't even hear your own thoughts, when you are there...

[vague patio]

the wheel in weeping stone 🔊

[wraith pecan]

The content of this video is hilarious.
With the 1.8 update, both my friends and I felt that the game frame rate dropped significantly.
Server stability, I believe you have seen. Every day the game peak, the server is not enough. (The key to this problem Crytek is not prepared to solve, it is very, very bullshit.)
There are also some bugs that have a very serious impact. It is surprising that they can persist for months. (The reconnect save hunter has been around for half a year.) Recently, there is another bug that ignores walls. I don't know how long it will bother players again.

I don't know about anyone else, but for me, new guns and features are a much lower priority than game stability and game optimization.

Of course, for Crytek, the new guns represent new DLC and money.

Not that you should not release new guns, new DLC. But at least you need to ensure the stability of the basic services.

[wraith pecan]

Really? Any news on when it will be released approximately?

[clever prawn]

@queen jungle if you press aim you will stop the reloading

[rocky orchid]

i am surely think that this will not happen before middle of next year.. i mean he just told they are working on it, but as someone who worked long years into IT myself i know how rough all the testing is.. so this could easily take 1-2 years.. if hunt would be a new game it would be much easier of course.

exactly.. riding a dead horse is never a good compromise..

@broken moat to your feedback at #feedback .. i guess you got unlucky by facing some narrow minded guys who exploiting the wall/ladder exploit.. just report them and move forward.. there is nothing right now you can do more

[cosmic charm]

@merry ridge mb just miscommunication. ask support kindly to get your charys back. after that denied you can come back rage.

[merry ridge]

it's not miscommunication when they write it down in black and white text for all to read, they made their stance and so I voiced my feedback, don't assume you understand my apparent "rage" or position as you cannot see it the same way as me because we are two different people

also I don't understand why you feel the need to message me or voice your thoughts on my thoughts when you don't even work for Crytek, so you are essentially just out to cause an argument on a discord server and I won't give you the satisfaction of that, so go bother someone else please and thank you.

[burnt mulch]

because this is feedback-discussion and he’s trying to discuss your feedback?

[merry ridge]

No, he is tell me to do something before I voice my opinion, that's not the same thing and perhaps you missed that with my comment compared to his quote and quote "feedback"

[vague patio]

you know that the event got longer

[merry ridge]

Had he said, "Lion perhaps you should contact support over this becuase I heard they might be giving people the chary handout back"

[vague patio]

thats the compensation for downtime

the contract thing, they do cause peope spend bbs

[burnt mulch]

sure you can voice your opinion, but isnt it understandable to think of you as “just whining” if it’s perceived haven’t actively done anything to try to actually do anything about it?

[merry ridge]

Yes, correct, hold your statment there

you have perceived and not even asked

you assumed I had done nothing

[burnt mulch]

well, have you? I mean, nowhere is it mentioned as far as i can tell

[merry ridge]

Now we have broken ground with each other as instead of making blanket statements about what you assume you are asking the question or offering help.

[burnt mulch]

I’m not saying it was right to assume it, but that it’s understandable that someone would come to such a conclusion and not to instantly condemn them as “trying to start a fight”

[merry ridge]

I mean, bro the person litterally typed "contact support before going back rage"

You tell me how that reads as someone not trying to start a fight in chat

[burnt mulch]

and bro you were literally raging and didnt mention a thing about support?

[merry ridge]

Who is raging?

I voiced my frustration about an element of a decison Crytek has made

[burnt mulch]

you can nitpick all you want but you’re doing the same thing as they did as far as I’m concerned.

[merry ridge]

see you are the only person taking issue with it, but I am entitled to my opinion

[vague patio]

not if your opinion is stupid

[burnt mulch]

I’m taking issue with how you handled the response lol.

[merry ridge]

Well GG boys, we achived the level you where all looking for

[burnt mulch]

“anyone who talks back at me is just trying to start an argument im the better person for ignoring them” is what I’m hearing.

but go ahead.

[merry ridge]

It's not a hard thing to understand, I have voiced my opinion about the company based off my experience, your apparent need to correct me or stand up for other has now placed me and you in an argument which you somehow thing I feel above or better than when you have now sank to the same level to make these comments and opinions on your perspective known.

and the whole response to your last comment is wasted by the person three comments before calling my opinion stupid because his personal experience and opinion is different to mine

The very fact you fail to grasp the difference between the two worries me greatly.

Also, you could have chosen to stop this any time, but your happy to keep it going, so you have zero moral high ground to stand on here aswell.

[burnt mulch]

welp.

Im trying to tell you that you could stand to be less of a stuck up petulant child.

[rocky orchid]

everything fine 🙂

i got what you said.. totally missinterpreted your writing..

maybe it is just at a specific location?

where did you got killed?

[merry ridge]

Shows the true intellect of a person when they cannot get their point across without getting mad and resulting to name calling, good job taking that moral stance.

[burnt mulch]

im on a phone dude I don’t want to quote shit and write essays. I’m telling you the way that you’re coming across.

you might think you’re being oh so intellectual with your long sentences and moral high ground but you end up sounding immature.

that’s it.

[merry ridge]

Yep, ok, got you bro, you are right I am wrong, understood

[burnt mulch]

lmao.

[vital drum]

Alright guys, enough going after each other, let's leave this channel for actual feedback and be respectful to each other.

[merry ridge]

Called it.

[burnt mulch]

shrugs lead a horse to water..

anyway, @fluid osprey I’m not sure when I would use this over just switching to my 3-slot and bringing a sabre instead?

[queen jungle]

Point is, Lebel, Mobrez Drum, and Avto should be the only big mag long ammos in Hunt

Lebel serves the niche of being a standard bolt gun with a lot of ammo loaded
Mobrez drum has an even bigger mag, yea, but is balanced by having g a r b a g e sway also a huge XP grind
Avto also has a bigger mag than the Lebel, but is locked to III burst minimum and a huge XP grind

I don’t think the Mosin should get any new variants

At all

While I would love an Obrez deadeye, the tree is just too huge as is

[fluid osprey]

I jusz thought of it as a good idea. If you think of it, id be just a cheaper version of a bomb lance, since its projectile originally serves the same purpose.
Also id be faster to just aim and shoot than to switch to your 3 slot

[burnt mulch]

more like a tiny MH riposte, but maybe I guess

[fluid osprey]

Or like that yea only that it takes 1 slot

[burnt mulch]

could also just use any of the melee attachment pistols though, right?

well, actually stamina consumption on those is fucked.

that should probably get looked at tbh

[fluid osprey]

... Yea technically. But i think that the melee aspect of the weapon should be the priority there. Also the stamina consumption on it is lower

[burnt mulch]

shrugs aiite, sure. y’got me

why tf not

[fluid osprey]

Id love to see it in the game since i love the melee thrill of chasing down players and the weapon choice in melee is just so damn low. (4)

[burnt mulch]

in terms of main weapons yea but have you tried meleeing with throwing axes?

assailant makes the heavy onehit hunters to the body and you can fling axes at running people

[fluid osprey]

I tried since the event they came in but the hitbox of them feels so off and unstable

[burnt mulch]

mm they’re a little clunky

[queen jungle]

I’d love melee weapon variants

Like imagine a poison tipped cavalry saber

[fluid osprey]

Atm i use the sabre bc i can outrange lance players with right timing. Its also a little weird that heavy melee on sabre doesnt inflict bleeding.

What? A long blade right through my arm? Nah its fine.

[burnt mulch]

piercing damage just doesnt bleed shrugs

[queen jungle]

The hunter kinda uses the saber all wrong

You’re supposed to slash with it

Not stab

[fluid osprey]

A heavy slash on it would look weird though

[burnt mulch]

saber estoc skin when?

[queen jungle]

I also never understood why the hunter feels the need to put their arm up when doing a heavy melee with the saber

[fluid osprey]

Sure xD yea just having a hole though my organs isnt big of a deal. Doesnt bleed am i right?

[burnt mulch]

makes sense that rending does the bleed from a mechanical abstraction point of view shrugs

[fluid osprey]

Does it? Am i dumb?

Or was that sarcasm

[burnt mulch]

well a wide cut would bleed “”more”” than a clean stab

[fluid osprey]

Yea but it WOULD bleed

[burnt mulch]

i mean im sure if you got punched in the nose you’d bleed too

man if you got shot by anything you’d bleed

[fluid osprey]

xD dusters now inflict bleeding on headshot

[burnt mulch]

if I got shot with a nitro I’d lose a leg

[fluid osprey]

True

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[unborn smelt]

@indigo patrol real flashbangs dont only work with light to beginn with...

The combination of bright flash and very loud sound and overpreassure "overloads" the sense of balance...
And it can lead to permanent hearing damage or loss.

So they absolutely work if you dont look at them irl

Altho admittedly it does lessen the visual impact, but not the auditory one

[indigo patrol]

no, i mean, if you want and if you can add a temporary hearing damage of 5 seconds ( like the rapid fire effect) if the FG detonate near a hunter even if it's not in sight but do something about the flash when the FG is in our back, that's absolutly not normal to be flashed like 5 seconds when we don't even look it

[opaque moss]

We want Hunt for Linux :DDDDDD

[signal parcel]

Whats there to discuss?

[queen jungle]

I assume weighting possible pros and cons such as potential customers vs resources needed, etc.

[signal parcel]

Its effortless enabling eac support

Literally a checkbox

[vague patio]

source? "just a checkbox" without any repercussion or further work, sounds to good to be true

[queen jungle]

But it has to be the right version of EAC, EAC_EOS to be precise. Many games, including Hunt, use the one without Epic Online Services integration.

[soft tendon]

@soft sparrow fire ammo already has tracers

[soft sparrow]

I know, but as a separate ammo with buffs.

[trail carbon]

@fluid dock The Nitro used to have no aperture sights. This was back when it was busted as hell. Then they put the aperture sights on it, now it's a bad gun. In short, it is a balancing reason, the devs didn't forget to add that or anything.

[fluid dock]

But now a lot of guns have improved since then and the nitro is left behind

[trail carbon]

I don't think buffing the nitro in any way is a good idea. I use the nitro a good bit because it's fun. However, I really don't think it should be buffed, and it definitely should not get that aperture sight removed. I do not want sniper nitro to make a return.

[vague patio]

nitro dumdum.

[rocky orchid]

but it was fun.. don't forget that 😄

[queen jungle]

@fluid dock The devs have said in the past that the Nitro sights are intended to not be foldable as it's part of the gun's balancing

[trail carbon]

Shhhh, don't say anything about that. They'll catch on

[queen jungle]

Cheaters, Servers, Bugs .. HS is falling apart.

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[native lodge]

no the the nitro doesn't need to be buffed

also it always had an aperture sight

it not having one is just myth

[thick elk]

Question when will the hell hounds the update that fixes hell hound spawns and bugs related to hell hounds because I keep getting swarmed by like 4-6 hell hounds and I just lost my second character to hell hounds in a row because of there be so many and how they sometimes don’t take damage (hit box issue I think) and teleport..my ping is 90 it’s not my internet 😐

[queen jungle]

4 Hellhounds is a possible normal spawn, 6 happens if two packs of three spawn close to each other.

[thick elk]

it happened twice in a row is dam I must be unlucky

I saw so many hell hounds I gave up and would just try to go around them after my 5th pack of them in 1 game within like 20 min to

[fluid locust]

Flash BANGS sure but the in game ones are literally a fecking light bulb.

Flash bangs are as dangerous as frag grenades in close proximity. Clearly flash bomb aren't since they only do one damage lol

[unborn smelt]

It's almost like games, pretty much all games, treat them diffrently than realistic

[fluid locust]

So the excuse that "that's how they work irl" doesn't apply then lol

Especially since it's not even a real flash bang

It's a dinky little light bulb with some bullshit magic powers apparently lol

[rocky orchid]

magic powder or amonium nitrate

[unborn smelt]

The original argument was them claiming they won't work IRL either if you don't look at them

[burnt mulch]

why does it matter anyway? Who the hell would bring flashes if they were so unreliable?

[silent tartan]

They are unreliable tho There is a bug where sometimes people dont get full flash effect when they are supposed to

[burnt mulch]

well I mean

if they made it so that you could turn away from a flash it'd be even less reliable

[silent tartan]

that true

[lavish grove]

Love randoms

Guy missed his melee against an immolator, so he shot it

Lost a bar, and rage quit

The other, tried to blow up a meat head and accidentally held the dynamite a bit too long

I just left.

[lavish grove]

||After picking him up ofc||

[hexed whale]

@rocky orchid they are doing nothing. The servers have always been terrible and have somehow been getting nothing but worse. This game is a cash grab at this point, releasing new content without fixing core gameplay problems/server problems. Even releasing an update from test server with known game breaking bugs/glitches.

[queen jungle]

Shotguns are ruining this game

[fluid locust]

maybe don't shove your face into one lol

[lavish grove]

Shotguns are good in shot gun environments

Same reason why long ammo dominates in long range

[fluid locust]

I mean long ammo dominates all range except within shotgun range and even then you can still get away with some EZ kills if someone is missing a bar or get a clean headshot because of the near hitscan velocity at close range

[late wind]

Shotguns are pretty much only viable with slugs. Without them they get demolished by pretty much everything except melee weapons.

[fluid locust]

the only good thing shotguns got going for them is the one shot ability at close range and no moving inaccuracy

[hexed whale]

how is this not being discussed? I dont get how this isnt a main discussion or even a main talking point in the "community"

[fluid locust]

meanwhile most other guns 2 shot and things like spammy weapons (duel wield, etc) can easily outrange a shotgun or beat one at close range if you get the first shot off

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[limpid vine]

I am so damn tired of that hotkey bug on consoles. Its got me killed multiple times today. It can't be a hard fix 🤦‍♂️

[unborn dagger]

Hotkey bug?

[tribal wyvern]

@mossy narwhal
C&K is probably (without slugs) the worst shotgun in the game.
It's spread is god awful, it tosses the aim around like crazy.
Everytime i ever heard C&K it takes people like 5 shots to kill anyone.

Slate is in a reaally good state. Maybe even to good.

[jovial lodge]

The right d pad hotkey just swaps to your other weapon until you rebind it every match

[unborn dagger]

That certainly sounds frustrating

[jovial lodge]

Yea, esp when you forget

And try to pull out your vit shot to heal and instead shoot your nitro or something

[unborn dagger]

Yeah stuff like that is really pushing me away from playing Hunt rn along with everything else from this update

[jovial lodge]

That's fair. Nothing has been too tough to get used to but your feeling is understandable

[bronze quail]

Cause there is nothing to discuss. I mean, everything has been told.
The game is trash and looks more like an alpha version that 2y old release. But what can we do?

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[outer imp]

MORE boss bounties. More variety of smaller mobs , player v player bounties mid game, literally a second mob in the water , a Gator or something … oh yea MORE BOSS BOUNTIES! #game-ideas

[warm zephyr]

@soft sparrow have you heard of incendiary ammo?

Also black powder shotgun shells are already anemic as it is. You want a shotgun that can only kill in 2m?

[tribal wyvern]

This games hitreg is just dumb as hell

Shoot a guy in the back with romero + nagant silencer at 10m. He didn't even loose 100hp

I might even got video

at 10m, he walks infront of me?

nah dude

I'd say it was 13m at longest.

Ye but nagant silencer + romero

not even 100 dmg

[tranquil sparrow]

might have been an arm shot or he moved out of the way just in time

[tribal wyvern]

nagant was on his back

100%

[unborn smelt]

Incendiary has tracers - but the desired effects asked for (tighter hipfire) in tracer routes are not part of incendiary ammo, and it wouldn't have the reduced pen either - so it doesn't matter if they heard of incendiary or not...

As for the shotgun shells they likely wouldn't be a popular ammo type - but could be fun

Romero has more than 10m range - but even aiming off by a bit can make you deal pitifully low dmg

pretty hard to say without a clip - but the nagant sil can be very treacherous

[tribal wyvern]

I would have gone for headshot, but i expected romero shot to register

[unborn smelt]

painfully slow velocity and very steep dmg dropoff

it starts to drop at 10m and if you hit a limb it's not looking great

[tribal wyvern]

You even see the blood from his back, twice

[unborn smelt]

at barely 50 dmg

[wind stream]

You got the clip?

[tribal wyvern]

yes

youtube just need to render it

[wind stream]

Nice

[unborn smelt]

I mean hitreg isn't without fault

it can happen

but usually it's people overestimating their shots precision

which is why we tend to default to that

[wind stream]

Yeah that's why actual clips of issues are key

[tribal wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri9ZRfNu2vo

[wind stream]

It's difficult to differentiate between bad aim and hitreg in the heat of the moment

[tribal wyvern]

Thats clear a direct hit on his back + a 2nd back hit with the nagant.

Mostly were on him

[unborn smelt]

it was not mostly on him...

outline of the guy is marked in red

you hit his arm

That one should be upper torso

[tribal wyvern]

So got f'd by a buggy ironsight

As to me when i was goin for the shot it looked like on his back

ye if the ironsight had been much further down as it should be

i wouldn't have

oh well, thanks for the investigation on it

[unborn smelt]

I mean the buggy ironsight is definetly really bad

[tribal wyvern]

just a bummer

[unborn smelt]

but your shot was too far left too - which is not only bugged ironsight issues

[tribal wyvern]

nah i wouldn't

not a killshot on first

but it would have dealt far more dmg than 10

ditto

[near reef]

what happens if I win another quickplay while my soul suvivor's rooster is already full ?

[maiden pelican]

@queen jungle crouching makes you not break sticks already

[hoary mortar]

@queen jungle also the value of your suggested trait for investing a trait slot is almost nonexistent

[vague patio]

would only make sense if the trait would silence glass/stick sounds when walking

[vague patio]

@maiden pelican agree so much, cent and bow unlock so laughably late. Especially the centennial suffers, cause you can find it on the map but never want play it cause you dontr have it unlocked and when its finally unlocked, you basically have other options that are "better"

i love the cent, but it has those weird issue which underpowers it a bit too much

[maiden pelican]

Imagine the perfect world we'd live in if they gave the silencer snd riposte to the Centennial

[unborn smelt]

Nah

In a perfect world we wouldn't have riposte variants making all of melee weapons obsolete

[vague patio]

centennial should get a melee variant, still hoping for a blunt damage variant

[maiden pelican]

Def not blunt if they treat it like the mace

Only weapon to do less damage when out of stamina

[vague patio]

lol

consistency pass

[maiden pelican]

Was because of me

Because it did less before and I said "Oh this is the only weapon to do less damage when out of stamina" then they went "ahh, gotcha man we'll lower it to light punch damage"

On the plus side I know that thats the way it works, and I have had an enemy die to an immolator with the mace because they ran out of stamina

[vague patio]

i think they hate the sawn offs

[maiden pelican]

Only way to explain it really

Crazy to me that they got their melee damage nerfed

But precisions didn't

[vague patio]

like, all their upsides just get completly wrecked by the sway. and then they nerfed them

[unborn smelt]

medium slot rifles are simply in a very bad spot because of the sway - and whenever they do smth with melee balance they seemingly forget those attachments

[maiden pelican]

Though I bet the melee damage nerf was when a rifle butt melee could headshot kill

[unborn smelt]

striker variants still have 10 light attacks even tho the knife was nerfed to 5 ages ago

[maiden pelican]

Ahh striker, at least they are unique now

[unborn smelt]

Tbh i think melee needs a consistency bast at the very least or a rework at bast

[maiden pelican]

I am fine with melee variants having different stamina consumption

[vague patio]

attachments > tool> melee weapon should be stamina balance

[unborn smelt]

from tools where the heavy knife sucks since forever - the forgotten melee attachments like the brawler and striker - to machete being obsolete and melee weapon slots as a whole pretty damn weak

[vague patio]

machete should do something like near ohk damage but cause severe bleed

[unborn smelt]

and the dmg types barely matter too - it's all about will it explode immo or not because of a lack of interesting features to the dmg types

[vague patio]

immos here to make you take a blunt option

[maiden pelican]

The cure for melee weapons is being able to dual wield with a single pistol that can still ads

but worse hipfire

heavy knife is only bad because of sweep hit registration

[unborn smelt]

I don't think that's the cure... it'd be a start but they'd just be weird medium slots then

[maiden pelican]

and it being a particulary egregious example

[unborn smelt]

not an interesting standalone choice

[vague patio]

love hiting something random to the right completly fuckin the swing

[unborn smelt]

THB i don't think so - it's got shit stamina for a dmg increase that helps with nothing important

[maiden pelican]

I am pretty sure most sweeps are like this
/--
( )

[vague patio]

light swing grunt can be good

[maiden pelican]

light swing can HS players

[unborn smelt]

If you wanna take out grunts - but be less effective against dogs and armoreds a Duster does the job way better

[vague patio]

but usually you can just avoid them and regen stamina inbetween the stabs of a knife

[maiden pelican]

but I just go throwing axe and deal with no stamina

[unborn smelt]

if you don't wanna sacrifice PvP the knuckle knife does it altho not as efficient as dusters

[maiden pelican]

because it can kill literally everything easily

knuckle knife is just better dusters after the buffs

it was terrible everything beforehand

[unborn smelt]

Not really dusters are far more stam efficient

[maiden pelican]

I think it was like 6/2 or 3 melees that did less damage than now

How much more effecient do you need

[vague patio]

i settled my differences with dusters, they ok

[unborn smelt]

you don't need efficiency at all

that's why the knife is so popular

[maiden pelican]

you just need 4 grunts dead quickly

[unborn smelt]

it deals with everything fast and easy while having enough stam to take everything one

[maiden pelican]

or 4 grunts in 4 attacks, which throwing axe attacks faster than knife even accounting for the 4th out of stamina melee

[unborn smelt]

the heavy knife has too little stam to deal with packs of dogs

it's more expensive and the animation is a bit worse

[maiden pelican]

Throwing axe was a good addition in the sense that its basically the best melee tool if you know how to use it

I just do 2 lights on dogs with the heavy knife

[unborn smelt]

throwing axes are great - no doubt altho i don't think they replace actual melee tools

[maiden pelican]

really no need to use the heavy on it, similar to the machete its heavy is worse than spamming lights

[unborn smelt]

I pair them with dusters which works amazing

[maiden pelican]

They do for me cause I have whacked people to death with 1 out of stamina melee

what do your tool slots look like then

[unborn smelt]

I mean you can ofc use it to replace a melee tool

but in general it's not worth it for most people

i like em a lot and they're propably in my top 3 fav things in Hunt

But i do think they are best combined with dusters to deal with immolators and conserve stamina for movement,

[maiden pelican]

One of the main reasons I use them is because you can get it in the first match of a prestige, because knife and dusters take forever to unlock stuff witb

[maiden pelican]

Stamina doesn't effect movemrnt beyond the time it takes to kill something

[empty oasis]

Throwing axe is good for silent map movement

[maiden pelican]

And a rifle butt can work wonderfully quick

I know you know that though

[unborn smelt]

yes i know

[maiden pelican]

Throwing axe to me pairs best with a scoped rifle

[unborn smelt]

I can pair that with axe + dusters too

[maiden pelican]

As you'll be in melee less and need a higher damage hit when you are in melee

[unborn smelt]

i mean yes i know and agree - but i still think that adding dusters adds a lot of versatility on top

[maiden pelican]

I guess I just like having only one tool for melee

and filling my tool slots

decoys 4 ever

[unborn smelt]

granted i hate how essential chokes are so i don't bring any out of principle (unless my mates need me to because they play a hunter they wanna keep for example)

[maiden pelican]

Psychopath not having chokes in slot 4 like literally every player

[unborn smelt]

that's how i end up with a pretty unothodox tool setup

[maiden pelican]

Its fun but with loadouts I always just pick one that I have already set up

[unborn smelt]

But in the end i still think melee needs at least a consistency pass or even a rework

I hate how the riposte essentially is just a sabre on a gun - and as such a big F-you to everyone that brings an actual melee weapon

[maiden pelican]

To me changing the brawlers to the same as the dusters damage wise would be a good first step

[maiden pelican]

The ripostes light attack is the only one I can never get used too

it feels like its actually mostly the top third of the screen that gets hit

way over grunts heads

and that its a terrible angle too, from mid left to just a bit off the right side of the screen

[unborn smelt]

What i think is the minimum - is making all the attachments be consistent with the standalone version, then balance the rest by stamina cost

[maiden pelican]

Strikers can be better stamina wise, since they are a medium slot

but also strikers should be more expensive

[unborn smelt]

no reason a fit adult that's hunting supenatural stuff is winded after swinging an axe 3 times - that's quite literally designed to be swung for longer periods of time

[maiden pelican]

seriously $5 more for a striker winfield than a base one, but its butt ugly

[unborn smelt]

and ideally i'd love them to revisit the dmg types to actually matter a bit more

[maiden pelican]

Knockdowns on heavy blunt hits (for AI, maybe the sledgehammer for players)

[unborn smelt]

so that you don't pick say sabre over machete because sabre is better - but because piercing fits you better than rending dmg for example

[maiden pelican]

because if you get hit by a sledgehammer they could've just had an axe and killed you

[unborn smelt]

or that you may pick the heavy knife for it's rending heavy over the knives piercing

[maiden pelican]

I think in addition to that pass they should have pistol+melee medium slots

[maiden pelican]

If only they didn't ice pick the knife

so we could have a stabbing light attack

I seriously want a stiletto type stabbing only knife

[unborn smelt]

oh i still agree to that

i just don't think that alone solves melee's shortcomings

[maiden pelican]

Cause right now medium slots are

terrible rifles, dualies, or slightly better pistols

[unborn smelt]

i'd rather play a conversion + machete than a winnie vandal

[maiden pelican]

Pax+saber sounds extremely fun

though in the end it would probably just be spitfire+saber

[soft tendon]

@vague patio Terminus and Slate have the same spread, so swapping them wouldn't change anything.

[queen jungle]

Another hacker today

[devout forge]

do people actually not like desalle? i have seen multiple people claim that in the suggestions now

[vague patio]

no

some people are just salty, and pretend that majority hates it

[devout forge]

thats pretty cringe

[pallid idol]

Desalle have some excellent compounds that wouldn't fit aesthtically in Lawson or Stillwater

[lethal oyster]

I think Desalle does some things nice and some things not so much. It's a mixed bag. I'm kinda meh towards most compounds. Most are kind of fine. Some are good,some are awful, weeping is great. I'd say all in all it's worse than Lawson delta but not terrible by any stretch. On par with stillwater I'd say

[quartz viper]

I think from a design point of view it's the strongest map, but it's still pretty new and more complex than the old ones. I guess it will be a while till people really know it as well as the others.

[devout forge]

yeah, I dont find it being new and me not being used to it as a negative though

I think thats exciting

[quartz viper]

I agree

[dim heron]

@wispy rampart Doesn't look like SBMM is on.

[wispy rampart]

It is on

[dim heron]

none of the others have it on, 2 of them went solo which would lower their mmr as well.

Unfortunate matchup, good kill though

[wispy rampart]

Solo player match MMR was 4.5 and 5 while ours was 3. There were also two trios with MMR 5. That's clearly matchmaking issue

[dim heron]

well when SBMM isn't on it fills matches to ensure a full match over fair match once the timer runs out

[crystal plume]

If a team has SBMM on they have a scales symbol next to their team number

And in that screenshot none of them have it

Which makes me assume it was off

[tribal wyvern]

Thats known to be bugged tho, did it get fixed?

[crystal plume]

Yeah already a while ago

[tribal wyvern]

Cuz before if it was not showing, it meant they had it

[queen jungle]

@gritty sky What button exactly did you press?

[dim heron]

@gritty sky To contact support there is a red button on the bottom right of the page. Open that to start a ticket 🙂

#customer-support has more information on how

[gritty sky]

Yes that button doesnt work, it loads the supp page for 1 second then it moves me back to main page.

[dim heron]

Do you have popup blocker activated?

[queen jungle]

There is no info in that regard, usually these things are announced on rather short notice before an event or a new patch.

[gritty sky]

I dont have any addon on my browser.

Whatever. My fps drops to 30 from 90-100 since the 1.7 is there any news on that front? Is this considered okay now or does Crytek plan to do something about it?

[dim heron]

it wouldn't be an add on, it's just a feature of the browser. Which browser are you using? When you go to the page, does it show "popup blocked" in the top right?

There are performance patches all the time.

[queen jungle]

@queen jungle all twitch drops are coming back sooner or later, as well as all event unlocks

Some have already returned throughout this year, so yes it's verified. We just don't know when specific legendaries will return.

[bronze quail]

Me ^^

[vague patio]

afaik, theyre looking into it. But no confirmation when or what will be available again.
Seasonal skins, like winter or halloween event were available again, so were some older twitch drops. There were actaully three not two. But the later two have partially skins from the first one

the first one was in august 2020

and it was... not good

but it was the first time they did something like that

likely, i think its a shame too, and for the dev teammorein interrested to share these skins again

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[gritty sky]

Look i m going to be honest its chrome, i use a pc since i was 5, now i m 30. Its not using any popup blocker, i never used any of those features as i never go to sites i dont trust and most of the time popups come from "weird" sites, i dont get any notification but it leaves the support page instantly. I had no problems with kayako, when the support used that. Now i cannot reach out to the support to report a gamebreaking bug, as in an fps its important to be able to use your mouse. The servers are worse than ever, since 1.7 the fps randomly drops to critically low. Seriously if Crytek cannot get their *** together people will leave as soon as a clone of hunt comes out with a proper background. I would bet serious money on the fact that if someone were to make this game in unreal with a normal server host, Hunts playerbase would drop to near zero. Cmon Crytek, people paid for this game, act like you care and fix the issues, stop with the skins, its a bad message that you throw out skins every month but cannot pay for a better host than leaseweb and cant fix netcode and such. I know skins are made by other people, not programmers, but its horrible to have a constant flow of skins, with zero improvement on servers or the game itself. I have been playing since the beginning of Early Access, and quality dropped a lot in every regard. This could be the next big game, but you loose all non paid streamers when they realise that the game is more rng than skill based thanks to server quality. Try to grow up for this title.

[gritty sky]

Yes and none of them fixed my issue. My bet would be if you were to cut the AI amount in half, it would improve a lot. I have a 2070, it shouldnt struggle, when this game came out there was no 2070, it should run flawlessly.

[karmic ivy]

@gritty sky I think your best course of action would be to use the "profiler" crytek put in the game recently and then send them the data output. At least then they would be able to see what your problem is.

The only thing I can suggest if you have performance issues still is try disabling the steam overlay. It is still an issue for some players.

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[fluid locust]

I kinda liked it when it was new but honestly I don't like how open it is and how it gives the cringe long ammo meta players who hide a mile away dominance in basically every situation. Plus really hard to see people imo with the bright ass orange trees distracting my eyeballs and the perfect camo dirt mounds everywhere

[outer jungle]

but cain is dead !

[lavish grove]

Honestly a nice bornhiem buff would be making its reloading better

Wanna partial reload? Lose a bullet on your already scarce ammo supply

Wanna full reload? Use up all your rounds on your already scarce ammo supply

Iirc its actual irl partial reload didnt require you to eject a round but dont quote me on that

[burnt mulch]

just give it 5 more reserve. it’ll be fine.

[half stag]

^ and maybe a bump down in price (back in the day, bornheim was used quite a lot when the price was low, and then they nerfed it, and it was occasionally seen, then dual-wielding came in and completely screwed it over)

[lavish grove]

Bolt seer imo is a qol perk

You dont need it

But if you have spare points go for it

Like kiteskin, magpie, etc

They arent necessary but if you have 1/2 points left and already have your default perks then why not?

[ruby magnet]

Desalle feels like a split map for me. On the west end near seven sisters, king snake mine, fort Bolden, Moses poultry you have large open fields and pastures where long ammo has a field day. Where once you get into the east side of the map near first testimonial, weeping stone, Stanley and coal and fishery there's so many bushes.

[queen jungle]

@earnest nimbus A similar idea was rejected in the past as it would potentially reward PvP too much and distract from the objective (extracting the bounty).
You used to be able to sell contraband very briefly on the test server when it was introduced, but quickly changed because it negatively impacted the game.

[earnest nimbus]

i see the point but i would be cool to be able to do something with them hell you can only keep what one of each maybe some kind of high cap on them or something the higher you prestige

i mean even the prestige needs to be done different i know its there just to do but like there is no reason to other then boredom and bragging rights i think one patch needs to address alot of the underpower weapons and balance stuff and just tweak things like the prestige

[queen jungle]

@pure jewel I'm fairly certain crows do have an agitated state as you approach them, just like all sound traps. . Running around the corner straight I to them will likely just skip that.

[pure jewel]

I swear I just hear the same "caw" sound no matter the distance anyway, no difference no matter how close/far I am, if there is, it's barely as noticeable as the other soundtraps.

[queen jungle]

IIRC they start to ruffle their wings as you approach and caw a little more frequently.

[pure jewel]

Now that I think about they did ruffle their wings I think, although it was less the caws and wings but their volume and frequency in between that screws me over

hell maybe it's the same deal with the horse being an unnoticed bug, what do I know though.

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[spice topaz]

Runs worse than other maps, is a camper haven with all the vegetation and colour palette, random fall damage, spawn points too close to each other. No more comes to my mind right away but there's some reasons to not like it. I personally don't mind it that much but when a serious DeSalle streak happens I do dislike it more than when it happens with the other maps.

[eager widget]

I dislike it as I seem to get it more than other maps. I don't like the verticality. Performance is usually way worse. And several compounds need reworking.
It's definitely the worst of the three maps now that the other two have gotten reworks. But thats my opinion that I know many won't share.

[queen jungle]

DeSalle is by far the most beautiful and diverse map imo, but it lacks a little water.

[stoic sable]

this man works for ign

[queen jungle]

Nah, I like DeSalle the most, although Stillwater has the nostalgia factor going for it.

I suck on any map, but that's up to me and I don't blame the maps for it

[bronze quail]

Dessalle is beautiful to look but not play imo.
Compound design is good cause compounds are bigger and made for trios instead for duos like the first 2 maps.
Overall is a good map, but there are so many elements that i don't like and combined with the average playstyle i can't really like it.

[queen jungle]

The compounds being so large and close to each other is one of the things I dislike the most on DeSalle tbh. Should have kept things simple like the other maps.

[bronze quail]

They are not that close to each other. The problem about older compounds is the fact that are not designed for trios, and specially playing solo bounty can be a pain cause on a lot of compounds there is no space for all the teams and there is no room for pushing

[queen jungle]

I mean yes, the game is and continues to be balanced for duos. The"Rule of Two" is at the core of Hunt's design philosophy, its something the devs have always emphasised.

Playing trios makes it easier in general while solo poses a challenge

[bronze quail]

Dessalle and the the new changes that are doing on the older compounds are made for trios

And i like that

The other thing that i like about the salle is that the space between compounds is really dense making fights outside of compounds more visible

On dessalle outside of compounds is fine, on other maps most of the time you end up rushing the closest compound to get cover

[keen bolt]

@stoic sable I think roaming boss is a great Idea but won't it completely kill shotgun loadout?

like

boss route would obviously be on open path

open path = good sniping location

[rough wyvern]

plz fix

[fierce trench]

make a button to disable compound names
i just realized whenever im entering a compound i lost a little bit of fps just to get a display of a banner name LAWSON, SCUPPER or DESALLE on top of my screen

[stoic sable]

the game has enough cover to make shotguns still viable if that was the case

and i get the feeling its only shotgun users downvoting it aha

[empty oasis]

Lol, outside of buildings, which account for 90% of the map(outside, not the buildings), ranged weapons are already meta

Besides, if only shotgun boys hated the idea then it would have more than 0 upvotes

[empty oasis]

That's not because of the names, that's because of the game loading the next zone

[empty oasis]

@wind rune
I mean, that's all cool but everything aside from the KJ rifle is already in game

[wind rune]

That's right. Wanted to show the historically accurate equipment.
Should I delete the last two pictures? 🤔

[empty oasis]

It's a nice backstory for a legendary char.

I wouldn't have any of the equipment since leg's come without anything on them

[wind rune]

Thank you for the compliment. 😄 👍
Tried to delete the last two photos, don't know how to do it.

Thanks for the advice. Changed the text. 👍

[fierce trench]

there is one broken compound
da saloon on desalle did devs fix dat automatic door fps drop or not yet

[empty oasis]

I've never encountered that so I'm not sure

[queen jungle]

@static rock The MMR system only takes into account the elo rating, KD does not matter at all.

[static rock]

you dont see a problem in the system when a 6 star 4.8kd 5khours player gets matched against a 5star team with highest kd of 1.2k?

[bronze quail]

yes, but high kd most of the teams equals high elo cause more kills without dying = more mmr
Average players shouldnt be matched against top tier players

its dumb that a guy with 1kd can reach the same mmr of a guy with 5kd

[queen jungle]

KD and hours played don't matter. While there is some difference between 5-star and 6-star, it's ultimately only a single star. Just like 3-stars getting into matches with 4-stars.

[bronze quail]

we need more brackets, cause low elos are well divided, but on 5/6 stars you can find every kind of player ranging from the 1kd casual guy to the 5k hours 4kd pro player

I cant understand how there is people that thinks that this is not a problem

[queen jungle]

If the casual is good enough to be 5/6 stars, just imagine how much better they would be if they could put in the time of a "pro"

[bronze quail]

the point is that casual 1kd most of the times is not good enough and gets stomped by the pro player

thats the thing

everybody is complaining about that

a "pro" player shouldnt be able to have the same mmr of a casual guy.
Mmr is not supposed like that, mmr works only if there are more "ranks"

[queen jungle]

The point is, put simply, that KD is not a good indicator for skill. That's why competitive games use an ELO-rating to matchmake and not KDA, hours played, prestige, or whatever.

[bronze quail]

i'm not saying to use kd for mmr

how do you get more mmr? by killing without dying, and what happens when you kill without dying? your kd increases

[static rock]

and thats why the mmr system doesnt work

thanks

[bronze quail]

So a player with high kd is MOSTLY better than a player with low kd.
Its not a rule, obviously there are eceptions, kd farmers ecc

A player with 2000h and 0.5kd is obviously worse than a player with 2000h and 3kd, and thats a fact

[queen jungle]

ELO matchmaking systems have been proven to work in dozens of competitive games and there are no major differences in how they work across games.

[bronze quail]

the point is atm is too easy to climb up ad down

and there is the problem

[static rock]

there is no competetive scene in hunt xd

the highest on the leaderboards are fcking new accounts that have 200 : 1 ratio

also, lets put it otherwise

how can a person that statistically kills 5 ppl per match get matched against someone that kills 1

how does that mmr work

how is that fair

[bronze quail]

an average "low skilled" player can climb up to 6 stars even by mistake, and a good player can drop down for dumb reasons like getting killed by a 1 star player on quickplay camping on a random bush

[unborn smelt]

Because the KD that you see on the deathscreen is not the way it plays out in MMR

[static rock]

yea and THAT IS THE PROBLEM

[unborn smelt]

the KDA stat tracks all kills, assists and deaths ever since you started playing

[static rock]

u can kill 20 4 or 5 stars

and your mmr doesnt moove

great fcking system

[crystal plume]

Gonna have to disagree with the first part of your claim, I know people that I wouldn't consider low skilled that want to reach 6 star for whatever reason, but they either can't or it takes them ages

[unborn smelt]

The way MMR works is it changes based on who you killed lately, who you died to lately and how high their skill was in comparison to yours

[bronze quail]

and im finding players with terrible stats that currently are 6 stars

[unborn smelt]

Which makes MMR way way more fluent than the KDA people are presented on the deathscreen

[bronze quail]

i'm 6 stars, and for my opinion i shouldt be on 6 stars

[static rock]

welp, will just keep playing qp to derank myself in mmr so we can have normal matches

luckily this system is so fcked, there are enough ways to exploit it

[queen jungle]

Oh I thought it said "would"

[jovial flint]

Well for every squad wipe I managed to win out of a war of attrition is a long streak of dying so I am perpetually in the 3-star realm.

I saw myself reach 4-star for one or two round before being back in 3

[queen jungle]

Slug needs to be nerfed to the ground. 2 Matches in a row with a team full of shotgun with slugs. at least less damage

[unborn smelt]

@frozen swift Mr chary can give legendary unlocks or instances of legendaries

In your case it was likely not an unlock - but a single instance of a legendary item

[frozen swift]

I get that

Doesn't change that it's stupid

You show someone a legendary and they think they got lucky just to immediately let them down

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[hexed whale]

Hunt is disappointment incarnate. Why should Chary be any different?

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[fluid osprey]

I havent posted any "Suggestion" about it yet but i sincerly wanted somre opinion of the community/other players with different playstyles.

I know, the Caldwell Conversion Uppercut has been in the game for looong long time, but since i started playing (about 2 years i think it should be) i think it is for many reasons op and gamebreaking and it absolutely disgusts me.

First, theres a reason why you have 4 slots and why the perk Quartermaster exists. Right! Because you have to be careful what you choose as a loadout that you can defend yourself over different distances and situations.
Why on earth is this gun 1 slot? Its performance, accuracy, damage and muzzle velocity are more than enough to outplay some rifles. (which are 3 slot!!) That automatically means just by purchasing this gun you covered your loadout for atleast the range of 90m and below.
I always try to "hear" what my enemies have as equipment so i can prepared for shotguns, nitro whatever. But this gun just throws my effort and knowledge out of the window since you can run literally EVERYTHING with a uppercut. Basically you can be completely fine over most of the games situations by this gun + any shotgun. Why a rifle for 3 slots if you can have a uppercut for 1?
Then comes the damage and wall penetration. I mean yes it shoots large ammo so it makes sense, but in the gameplay aspect its so annoying that a (1 slot) revolver deals still 90-80% of its full damage to targets about 60 metery away! And i dont know about others, but me and my friends get wallbanged for 110+ damage by it on a regular basis.

And at last the accuracy.
It is a heavily modified revolver that shoots large calibre rifle ammo. Why on earth is it more accurate and has less sway than a tiny winy nagant or pax which are NOT heavily modified and shoot the bullets they are supposed to? You can easily snipe with it and everyone who ever held a uppercut knows that scoring a headshot with it is not a hard task.

[clever prawn]

@pure jewel , crows already have that

[unborn smelt]

Oh boy get ready for some heated comments...

I tend to agree with you as the Uppercut has prettymuch dominated the Meta since forever

[fluid osprey]

I am, but i know others have other opinions and im ready to hear it

[unborn smelt]

and we literally had it have an over 50% playrate in top elo. That's more than all other secondaries combined

As for accuracy i'm pretty sure it doesn't have less sway than a nagant or pax. I think it just feels easier to land hits due to the velocity

on the other hand i think the uppercut has a place in Hunt (even if i think it could use some changes / smol nerfs) because it's what enables CQC focused primaries to be somewhat competetive

because you can very easily make a rifle loadout good on almost any range - there's a lot of short ranged secondaries like semi autos, fanning, the Le Mat, sawn offs and melee attachments - so CQC focused primaries need some ways (IMO more than we have now) to extend the range in the secondary slot.

altho those admittedly shouldn't outvalue as many rifles if any rifle the way the uppercut does

[fluid osprey]

It is fine that it exists dont get me wrong, i just think it should not be a better option over many rifles

Ah you just said that too sorry slow reader

[unborn smelt]

yeah i agree wholeheartedly

[fluid osprey]

Im also a little salty about the new go to loadout of about 90% of my enemies... Im on console and 5-6 stars and they all run slate slug plus uppercut. Its so annoying.

Barely see anything else

[vague patio]

i love the uppercut but on the same i hate it so much

uppercut makes basically sidearms obsolete

for the longest time it was, do you take uppercut or dolch/officer

the uppercut is stupidly strong and snuffs out actual diversity and choice

any of its stats arent a problem tho, but all combined are just

yea, its one of the closest things we got to say its op

pax nagant conversion pistol eat ass comparedto damage, pen and muzzle velocity

and then there are sawn offs, all of them are way way worse by just the sway

not to mention that most of them also got less pen and some less damage

the uppercut is insane, and its actually one of the things in hunt that frustrate the most

i think its also funny that it is the faster long ammo gun

i think devs might be afraid to nerf it in any way cause so many love the gun

[fluid locust]

I think adding high velocity to pax or Scott field would add some decent competition

[vague patio]

no

[crystal plume]

Uppercut needs competition/alternative, not a nerf

[fluid locust]

And having another long ammo secondary

[crystal plume]

I would love to see a martini pistol or such

[fluid locust]

^

[vague patio]

the only competitor is basically fmj conversion

[fluid locust]

Uppercut has been nerfed more than pretty much any other gub

[crystal plume]

But I do see people use other pistols as well quite often

[fluid locust]

Gun*

[crystal plume]

I wouldn't necessarily say that uppercut is the most common sidearm that I find in my matches

[fluid locust]

And it's still dominant because no competition

[unborn smelt]

TBh i think it needs both...

[vague patio]

ok, let me ask this. what can be a viable competitor

not which gun, but just stat wise

[fluid locust]

I don't think people realize the uppercut isn't op because of anything other than it being long ammo

[crystal plume]

I mean I wouldn't even call it op in the first place

[fluid locust]

If velocity was so important high velocity nagant would be op. But it's shitty compact ammo and nobody wants to run that

[unborn smelt]

We know for a fact it had over 50% playrate in the past on top ELO.
And while it's true that it needs competition and that would likely drop it's use rate, over 50% is so hilariously out of order that it definetly is worthy of a smol nerf

[crystal plume]

I hate using pick rate for balancing

[unborn smelt]

well it shouldn't be the only argument

[vague patio]

the thing is, it would artificially drop the rate. Cause if it gets an equivilant competitor it would not help any of the other guns, just split the playbase to those two guns

[unborn smelt]

but it is a strong indicator

[fluid locust]

Yeah that doesn't make sense in real situations. People typically only pick something because it's the only viable choice.

[unborn smelt]

and many many games use pickrate for balance especially at the higher skill levels

that's usually how Meta's are born and how they shift because of nerfs or buffs

[crystal plume]

I use what feels good to use and I imagine I'm not the only one

And I don't think something deserves to be nerfed for feeling good to use

[fluid locust]

The only acceptable uppercut nerf imo is making it do less than 125 damage. Anything else would just neuter the gun

[unborn smelt]

Well to many winning feels good, so they pick the strongest gun.

[unborn smelt]

I don't think so - with how strong and popular it is it needs a lot to neuter that thing

[vague patio]

making it 124 damage would be such a good start

[unborn smelt]

people claimed it would be neutered when they made it perform not like a mosin anymore which was a huge step down in power

people claimed it was dead after the reload speed nerfs

and yet it's still the gun i found on every second body... and it was still the gun with the undisputed highest playrates

[vague patio]

probably cause it got cool skins

not otherwise explainable

[unborn smelt]

I personally have to admitt tho that i am so tired of people complaining about everything new or strong until it gets nerfed, arguing with playrates but the moment it comes to their fav secondary as everything else was nerfed so much they backpaddle and find every excuse in the book why it's diffrent there...

So i wouldn't be opposed to the uppercut being nuked to unusability either... maybe then people would learn to wait before crying OP at everything

[vague patio]

they dont

[unborn smelt]

I mean i know they won't - but i very much like that people struggle to defend the uppercut being a bit too good

it usually boild down to people that before cried "dolch in every match - nerf!" or "everyone plays Dolch" suddenly changing to "playrates don't matter". In almost all convos i had this is what happens

[vague patio]

dolchlowkey needs a buff

make it long ammo

[unborn smelt]

all while there are still valid arguments for the uppercut being slightly overtuned, like it essentially being a small slot vetterli, being the only pistol that OHK's 125 hunters, it having too much ammo to be in line with pax / conversion

[vague patio]

reagrding nerfs, i kinda hate what they did with both of the new guns

[unborn smelt]

I'm glad dolch is ded. I don't think balance wise it was needed but i don't mind not seeing it anymore either

[vague patio]

it reallyfeels like the devs are afraidto change damage and rof

[unborn smelt]

as i do agree it felt so unrewarding to a point it warranted at least a rework

[vague patio]

just remembered when people called vetterli silencer op

[fluid locust]

Pax and conversion need more reserve imo. Pretty sure conversion single only got nerfed because duel wield. And pax only had 12 because dolch medium ammo. And they just forgot it existed and never gave it more. All medium ammo rifles got more ammo but not the pax

[unborn smelt]

they reduced all pistol ammo when dualies hit on purpopse, including pax

i have to say i'm a fan of overall lower reserves so IMO the Uppercut needs to loose 3 rounds rather than buffing the rest

Also the uppercut was the only pistol not to get ammo nerfs for dualwielding

[blissful jackal]

delusional

[vague patio]

you? sure

[queen jungle]

@queen jungle Traditionally, Crytek uses new releases to show off new features of CryEngine. DLSS and RT were showcased in the Crysis Remastered Trilogy so it's unlikely they'll ever be added to Hunt.
The next full release to feature all the major CryEngine improvements will likely be Crysis 4.

[half stag]

They did say they are updating hunt to the latest engine tho in their latest gameplay stream . . .

@queen jungle they confirmed on the latest gameplay stream that they are updating hunts engine to the latest version which does include dlss support

[ruby magnet]

Well I've more recently come to an opinion that first adding a long ammo pistol to challenge the uppercuts place as the go to long ammo pistol... because it's its own kind

Which would allow a further tune down to be less of a ball breaker.

I agree a 6/6 ammo uppercut would feel fair.

[unborn smelt]

I do agree - but even then there's enough reasons to nerf the uppercut otherwise.
Don't get me wrong - 6 months earlier and i'd have been hellbent on seeing the uppercut die and be nerfed to uselessness

[ruby magnet]

But at the moment... I feel a challenger would bring more in perspective of why it's so strong

[unborn smelt]

But i dont think it needs a big nerf

i think the absolute minimum is making it 6/6

and proapably a price increase...

altho that could wait a bit

[ruby magnet]

And I think that's all it'll need. And then the price can drop a little

But we need another pistol to compare it to

[unborn smelt]

I dontt think the price oin the upper should ever drop

[ruby magnet]

And currently there isn't. We're comparing it to rifles because there is no pistol alternative.

[unborn smelt]

unless they givce it the dolch treatment and make it super bad for the money invested

[ruby magnet]

And that makes finding its balance a mess.

[unborn smelt]

and because it literally competes with rifle firepower

[ruby magnet]

Well... dolch... I don't know... its a clutch cannon.

[unborn smelt]

it's a pretty much pocket vetterli

[unborn smelt]

as is the upper IMO

[ruby magnet]

Well it literally is a vetterli

Yup

[late wind]

Special ammo.

6/6

(Probably should but unlikely) Make it a two slot.

Uppercut problem solved.

[unborn smelt]

That'd be too much

[late wind]

It's as big as the romero handcannon. Which is a two slot and not even approaching as good.

[unborn smelt]

i could see it be a 2 slot - but then not with the ammo type change

i could see it be special but then being a 2 slot is overkill imo

but no matter what it should be 6/6 imo

[late wind]

They went overkill on the officer, bornhiem and C96.

A nerf being overkill doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.

[unborn smelt]

I disagree - while it would almost be poetic justice too loose the uppercut to the same crying for nerfs as many other guns - i would love to see that trend stop

[late wind]

People will whine regardless. I mean ffs people are calling the 1893 OP. But the trend of people whining doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.

Whatever killed them most recently needs a nerf. You just have to tune it out.

But when something is as pervasive and pattern forming as the uppercut, it's time to take a good look and act accordingly.

Better to over nerf it now, and slowly bring it into a decent spot.

[unborn smelt]

I do agree with others that we should first see competition to the uppercut - and then get back to looking at the uppercut for potential big nerfs.
But i agree that it needs to be looked at.

[late wind]

The uppercut had competetion. And people cried for like 3 straight years over it.

[unborn smelt]

My issue with that is crytek are very slow if they don't forget it completely to bring stuff back up

melee is essentially dead, crossbow was very scarce for a long time, poison is dead, explosive ammo is dead

[unborn smelt]

I can mostly agree to that - altho the dolch was only competition for top tier sidearm - not for long range sidearm

much less cheap long range sidearm

[late wind]

They were both pistols that allowed the player to work outside traditional pistol rules. Either by rate of fire and capacity, or by being a rifle.

And people could not handle the C96 for some reason.

[blissful jackal]

uppercut is fine how it is

[fluid locust]

That's because those are no skill spam guns. Even then they're still pretty good lol

[late wind]

So wait it's no skill to spam and kill someone with three body shots, but does take skill to kill someone with one body shot or two leg shots?

At least be consistent.

[fluid locust]

Those all kill with 2 body shots at close range other than bornheim

And pretty certain the upper never kills in 2 leg shots lol

And can only one shot if you lost a bar

[unborn smelt]

Upper kills in 1 bodyshot if the guy lost HP - doesn't get easier than that

and the Upper has so much overkill dmg that as long as you don't hit legs it's a 2 tap

unlike compact or medium which drops off in dmg faster and lacks the high dmg to 2 tap to arms

and the velocity makes hitting on longer range easier too

[fluid locust]

Imo the only thing the only thing they need to do to nerf it is give it the 20m dmg drop off of comp/med or reduce damage to 124

[unborn smelt]

It has 20m dmg dropoff

[fluid locust]

It doesn't have the long ammo dropoff?

[unborn smelt]

doesn't really bother it tho

[unborn smelt]

It does

But pistol long and rifle long are diffrent

[pseudo peak]

Immediately joins conversation lmao

[unborn smelt]

rifle long ammo drops at 40m pistol long at 20m

stay civil pls

it's not exactly polite... and it has the potential to escalate to smth that's a problem

that sounds worse than i want it to, because i lack the words to put it right

[stoic oyster]

do you run faster with your knife out?

[queen jungle]

No

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[radiant river]

guise uppercut is very op 😭 😭

[pure jewel]

Well then it's barely noticeable in comparison to other sound traps

[hexed whale]

@rain pier based.

[rain pier]

Yep

[dense sapphire]

@broken agate (Double Rival Shot)
Would be uber busted. Double pellets means more damage which means longer kill distance. Imagine if the romero was even more reliable at the cost of guzzling ammo. Now apply this concept to custom ammo, especially slugs and flechette. Slug 1 tap range would be bumped up to ludicrious levels and flechette would be nasty too.

[late wind]

Shotgun

Busted

Lmao.

[unborn smelt]

I mean are they wrong tho...

shooting 2 slugs at one would 1 tap at like 60m

It'd make the rival a nitro with 1 more lethal shot

[late wind]

1. The nitro is a further OHK. Even more so with dumdum.

2. The nitro gets two shots before reloading versus one with the Caldwell.

3. Dualies Can OHK further and only take up two slots versus 3.

4. If it's that big of an issue just remove slugs.

Shotguns are meme weapons that require a 200$ ammo type to even be viable at ranges greater than like 10m. Saying that a shotgun in any capacity would be busted is just too silly to not laugh at.

[unborn smelt]

1. No Nitro is ~40m OHK, slug 2 tap is ~60m so if you can shoot 2 at once it has a ~60m OHK, almost on par with a nitro DumDum

2. Yes ofc - it's a 1000$ + gun... The caldwell wouldn't have shit sights and could still do single shots if need be at less than a third of the money

3. Dualies are inconsistent. they can but they aren't likely to, and no matter your skill you can't ensure they will.

I'd normally agree that shotguns as a whole are weak an in no way busted - but transforming one into a 300$, 60m bodyshot OHK would absolutely cross the line to OP

[late wind]

Then take slugs off the caldwell if it's that big of a deal.

[dense sapphire]

@lucid lion (Playing the Objective)
Hunt is a PvP game with PvE elements. While you technically don't need to fight anybody to "win," the entire game is designed around PvP interactions. Making the game more objective based is entirely backwards.

[unborn smelt]

a higher objective focus doesn't mean less PvP, necessarily

I do agree that the idea wouldn't really be good for gameplay

But a higher objective focus would mostly mean more Pvp happens sround the objective

[dense sapphire]

Not "necessarily" but it's focusing on the wrong thing. And by encouraging play based on the official objectives, you encourage only doing objective which results in less PvP.

Probably not a significant amount

But would still happen

[unborn smelt]

I think the point where i disagree is that "encouraging play based on the official objectives doesn't necessitate encouraging to only do the objective

It would put extra emphasis on the objective / objectives but that can be combined with more PvP incentives or at least be implemented to not take away from PvP

i think what makes or breaks this is rewarding the objective - before extracting would help with PvP, or even make the rewards help with PvP (like getting bars back) and it could be new objectives rather than just adding smth to old ones

[dense sapphire]

Depending on how it's implemented, it could be a good change. But adding an incentive to grabbing the official objective will, in general, incentivize more play focused around it. We already have enough players who refuse to fight for various reasons and I'd really rather not see more of them.

@late wind (Don't start lobbies until everyone is loaded in)
At the same time, is it fair to hold 11 other people back for the sake of one person? Yeah, you might be at a disadvantage but does that warrant screwing over everyone else? Either outcome is unfair so might as have the one that's better for more people.

[late wind]

You're not getting screwed over if you have to wait a couple minutes.

To say it's an unfair advantage to have everyone start at the same time is to imply that you need a head start to ensure a fair game. In which case: git gud.

[frigid folio]

Or just "git gud". The only disadvantage to starting a bit later than everyone else is you won't be first to the compound. And this isn't really a disadvantage really, just means you're pushing a compound instead of defending.
If you're worried about it being a 2v3 just "git gud" m8. It's not like hunt is a game where you need to loot anything like battle royals. If anything starting late can be advantage because nobody thinks you're there and then next minute you're sneaking up behind them

[devout forge]

putting "get gud" in quotes doesn't make you sound less like one of "those guys"

[alpine gust]

another farming round

[clever prawn]

It is noticeable. Take beastface and study the birds, what happens when you get close to them and further away. It's the same without beastface but easier not to fuck up with beastface

[clever prawn]

Gotta collect your challenges m8

[eager widget]

No reason for it. If you don't collect them by the time you prestige, they still get claimed. They also get claimed when they expire.

Same with Mr. Chary.

[queen jungle]

@alpine jasper All three maps are the exact same size, 1x1 kilometre

[alpine gust]

they should just really create a game mode with hardcore mode, with hunters forced to kill each other.

i hate killing bosses after 3000 hours of this game

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[alpine gust]

exciting Match - it should be like this all the time

boring match - first 2 minutes of judgement

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[spice topaz]

We often have the best shot analysers having a go on clips so I'll present you one:
https://youtu.be/pi7-Um3iI98

[dense sapphire]

My counterargument: no u

[hot vigil]

Yeah, not sure how that didn't hit.

Nope they haven't been moving at all

[gritty root]

Probably you were dead at the moment when you fire or he wasn´t there... standard poor crytek server communication after 4years from publish or another idiot playing on not his region

[vague patio]

"you were dead" cant happen tho

if you shot someone on your screen it does hit

theres no "they were somewhere else" or "you died before shooting" (anymore)

[gritty root]

We are talking about same game? 😁

in numbers of desync, kill trades, rollbacks it is pretty normal in this browser game

[vague patio]

ok, watched the vid and i actually think its not even the aim. Its the jump. You are barely in the air shooting probably either having mid air accuracy or "aimpunch" accuracy by landing (dont know if that a thing gameplay wise)

[native lodge]

no you are right he is in the air

so thats jump shot accuracy

which means its going to be effected by rng

[gritty root]

there is no jump inaccuracy in this game when you aim

[vague patio]

lol

maybe you want o inform yourself more

[native lodge]

there certainly is

[hot vigil]

oh there darn is, SO many times I've died to that

And I hate it!

[native lodge]

so the reason that shot didn't hit above, is because it wasn't pinpoint to begin with

[gritty root]

ok guys, where I can learn more about that?

[hot vigil]

There is nowhere in the game where it tells you sadly 😦 But you can go into a match and do some jump shots against a wall to see.

[native lodge]

you can actually see the bullet impacting the tree because of the jump shot

[fluid locust]

The only guns without jump inaccuracy are non slug shotguns. You can easily see your crosshair increase in hipfire if you jump as well.

[hot vigil]

Yeah, but most people's (I'm most people) brain kinda assume that ADS is king, so ADS while jumping should use trump the crosshair, but alas it doesn't.

[fluid locust]

Yeah if that was a thing a lot more people would do it. I've died to some jump shots before. First bullet dolch shot from like 60m. But it's incredibly lucky and bs.

And would honestly ruin the flow of the game. Kinda makes sense only shotguns can do it

[hot vigil]

Still happy I got this, tho it is a shotgun kill

[trail carbon]

@alpine jasper all three maps are the same exact size

[normal horizon]

You jumped and shot when coming down. It makes the shot go anywhere on the screen and it hit the bottom of the tree the person is standing next to

[maiden pelican]

I was testing jumping with the martini in training, the bullets would literally hit off the screen at 90 fov

A note is that while jumping you are perfectly accurate until you start fallinf

[hoary crescent]

Just got hacked by the ladder exploit, couldnt really get a good screenshot, but we jsut got railed by what appears to be a player inside a wall..

you are a low life piece of shit human if you think you are kool exploiting this stuff in that manner. I hope you get banned forever..

[spice topaz]

Thank you, good input. Being just an inch off the ground is plausible. I must say that having your iron sights on the dead center of your target and having worse accuracy than with dualies is BS. I do understand that it would be a bigger thing to signal that inaccuracy by making the gun move in your hands or disable ADS while in air (and probably add some more buggy stuff) but as BigOwOMcCree stated this is very unintuitive.

[hot vigil]

Especially bc your ADS already sways more when you jump, so my logic was always: "Well that is the cost for trying to pull off a jump shot"

[fluid locust]

It's not overwatch or cod. Jumping should always be a non viable option

[hot vigil]

Well by that logic, so should hipfire???

[fluid locust]

It is for most weapons

Except at close range

If given the option to aim or hipfire a rifle at close range I'm always going to aim

Unless like it's a scoped gun which I never use anyway

[hot vigil]

That is fair, not saying it is unreasonable it is like it is. Just that the train of thoughts to reach the conclusion is a little faulty. And most importantly, how well the game convey its mechanics.
As I said, it is easy to assume that your ADS accuracy remains when jumping as there is no indication that your aim should default to that of an invisible crosshair aim while in the air.

[fluid locust]

I mean yes it should say somewhere but like all it takes is one try to notice your aim is completely off while jumping

Unless you only do it at very close range and get lucky or only did it with shotguns and are unaware

[hot vigil]

Would argue (from experience) that it can easily be missed in the heat of the moment how far off your aim is while jumping.

[fluid locust]

I can only imagine the amount of sweaty bullshit people would pull if you were perfectly accurate. People camp rooftops already and only show their head. That'd be even worse

[hot vigil]

If it had increased sway while in the air it would be a balance. Again, not that I feel strongly to change how it is. But dunno if it would become too strong.

Biggest reason why I wouldn't want it is just that it would be goofy, like how side-stepping used to work or the crouch spam meta.

[frosty garnet]

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[sharp arrow]

@hollow crypt The knuckle knife has the same range as the knife, instantly kills for the head like any other melee tool, and is the second most stamina efficient melee tool in the game.

If I’m not using a stamina shot, it’s the only tool I’d want to use for melee.

[hollow crypt]

it cant kill hounds with a body hit in one hit

youre wasting more time killing armored

and generally has a terrible attack without stamina

if you want blunt melee just take the dusters

[eager widget]

It can kill Dogs in two light punches. It doesn't take that much more time to kill an armored, if any, than regular knife. It 4 shots immolators.
And most melees have terrible attacks without stamina

It's the most versatile melee tool slot weapon, with the ability to take both immolators and regular AI out super quickly. It also is able to stab two times more than regular knife, meaning you can kill 6 grunts instead of 4 super quickly.

[cedar coyote]

@static rock Your post in #feedback was removed as the Steam account contained the n-word

[bronze quail]

is crytek actually banning for the ladder glitch abusing?

[dim heron]

yes

[eager widget]

Good.

[bronze quail]

do we have some numbers?

i mean, is 100% sure that people abusing it every day is going to be banned?

every day and every match*

[eager widget]

They don't give numbers, we probably won't ever get numbers. Don't hold your hopes up for it

[bronze quail]

i hope so, cause i know a couple of guys that use it every single match

and i hope they will be banned for sure

[hoary crescent]

did they nerf the nitro, I jsut shot two pricks in the chest with it and no kill..

[native lodge]

no, so it was just not hitting where you thought it was

[plush ledge]

or to far away even with dum dum you need to be at 74m max and it won't matter if you hit upper or lower body

[hoary crescent]

a chest shot is a chest shot, if its off that bad in this game, why take it at all?

[plush ledge]

you would be surprised how many "100% upper body hit dude!" is actually a arm hit but anyway you never said how far away he was

can't be that close or a arm hit would've also killed

[hoary crescent]

20m

thats how far..

you tell me...

even my teammate wondered wtf.

not the first time either..

[plush ledge]

16m is one tap range for the arm but yeah BS happens in Hunt

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[lucid orbit]

@quartz viper Red skull revive is one of the worst development choices made by Crytek. It removed urgency from burning and now people camp harder than ever - they don't need to do anything in the moment to save the teammate so people continue to do nothing.

[hoary crescent]

👍

[vague patio]

@pearl summit 40m one tap to torso, 73 m with dumdum

if you can handle the aim, thats not the problem of the gun

[burnt mulch]

yk they got burnt right?

[brittle glacier]

I keep seeing people pressing the space bar to try and make there text go down a line! Shift + Enter on keyboard is easier! lol

@random quartz I see what you are going for there, but my worry is that if this was implemented that would take away (part of) the point of going to banish a boss. Atm banishing is the only way to get your health bars back in a game, so that means that there is more need to go there if you are low on health bars. If you took that need away from people a new objective could form around these "special med-kits", instead of the boss. That's my view on it.

[random quartz]

If banishing the boss were always a possibility for every team and not the lucky people that spawned at said boss, I'd agree with you. I can't count how many matches the bosses have already been banished before I've had time to grab more than a couple clues. In my opinion there needs to be an alternative way to restore health that also carries risks equal to banishing a boss such as having your location exposed to all. Currently, spawn luck is the largest factor determining whether or not you'll get your health back.

[unborn smelt]

Some food for thought - more often than not in my experience people that miss bars leave the match rather than risking a banish. And more often than not a banish is not an option, because you spawned bad and theres people there already or its even already banished

[rain rune]

FIX THE SERVERS

shit is embarrassing FFS

also trading occurs way too often. pay someone to rewrite your netcode

The game wouldn't have to be bogged down in microtransaction BS if they'd invest a little in the actual game part

[brittle glacier]

I see your point, and I've also been in the same situation where the boss was banished in the first few seconds of the game (-_-) So if there was a way to replenish health bars, then that would be nice. I just think having it at a resupply wagon doesn't require any skill to getting it, compared to banishing a boss, because you have to fight it first. But overall I agree with the point.

[manic current]

I've been having issues with hit reg with shotguns. I've point blanked people with a Romero 3m to the chest and not get the kill. Yet they can 1 hit me at 15m? I don't know if it's server issues or what but it's getting irritating.

[brittle glacier]

Yes, so if there was a second chance people wouldn't have to immediately extract. I get that.

[random quartz]

I get your reluctance, one simple mechanic change can lead to far reaching issues. For example the red skull revive is just as much a curse as a blessing... I'm not saying my suggestion is the ONLY way, just throwing an idea out. Perhaps like the vault on Vigor there could be a set amount of time you had to stay at that spot to "crack" the safe while your location is exposed to other players. In the end the community will either approve or reject as majority, most likely reject as this community doesn't seem to keen on change...

[hexed whale]

Well with how the game has changed it hasnt really changed for the better how can you blame people for that one? People keep throwing out these new ideas and Crytek really needs to focus on polishing up the core game before they start doing new things. The game is in a broken messy state and that has to be priority number one.

[rain rune]

they haven't done shit to address the core of the game in years

not really sure I have faith they'll turn around and do it now

[cursive lava]

I see you commenting a bit on comments related to styles of play. Would you like acknowledge the issues plaguing the Asian servers, and let us know that Crytek is actually doing something to resolve the issues?

[unborn dagger]

I haven't played in a couple of weeks cause of them bringing in more issues than fixing them. Especially with this new update. It sucks cause I was really hopeful that this patch would fix the major performance issues

[rain rune]

I feel like performance has been much worse if anything

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[rain rune]

then again I haven't checked player count stats

[queen jungle]

@fluid narwhal We do not tolerate name and shame on this server. Please make sure to report any suspected players to Crytek's customer support.

[fluid narwhal]

@queen jungle i have, multiple times, doesn't seem to to anything tbh... but im curious, what is the punisment for using the current ladder glitch?

[queen jungle]

There was a statement made on the issue a few days ago, check #general-announcements.
Players found abusing the issue will have their accounts banned.

OK, looks like it's not linked in general announcements

It's a post on the Hunt subreddit.

[fluid narwhal]

I'll look forward to seeing those people i reported banned then, if not, i'll call bullshit on the report system

[hearty belfry]

Banned? Last time i read the statement, it pointed out that only through repeated use of cheats/exploits will you be punished for longer durations

[unborn wadi]

Announcement put out, yet the number of players replicating this bug are increasing. A bug that has been in the game for YEARS and crytek has done nothing about.

[queen jungle]

If the number is increasing, you may thank those people who kept sharing how-to videos throughout the community.

[hearty belfry]

you know, how about

insta ban

permanently

[unborn wadi]

Those videos were shared to force crytek to fix an issue that had been in the game for YEARS!

[fluid narwhal]

an insta ban announcement and the fact that Crytek would actaully do it would set fear onto the minds of men, thus DRASTICALLY reducing the bug beeing used

[cursive lava]

There are so many issues in the game that have been around for far too long. The ladder glitch is an example of the measures that players have to take to get something fixed. That’s not the way it should be

[queen jungle]

The issue was barely known until a few weeks ago, when some players started distributing instructions on how to use it. The current epidemic of people abusing the exploit is entirely up to them.
The right way to handle such exploits is to report them to Crytek with as many details as possible so that QA can have a look at it and schedule it to be fixed.

[queen jungle]

Crytek has always and continues to ban for abusing exploits to gain an advantage, as stated in the post regarding the ladder exploit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/u2p6uo/developer_update_addressing_the_ladder_desync/

[fluid narwhal]

they continue to ban for a limited time, going up by the amount of times you do it, it doesn't state insta perm bans

[cursive lava]

No, this is wrong. Reports of this issue have been going back for years. Please don’t spread misinformation about Crytek and their policy regarding bugs

[hearty belfry]

So the issue isnt the fact that a gameplay ruining bug is in the game, but that people brought it to light?

[queen jungle]

While there have been reports in the past, the issue and how to abuse it were unknown to most players. It wasn't until those how-to videos to "force" (lol) Crytek showed up that many people started abusing the exploit.
In any case, those found abusing the issue will see their accounts banned.

[cursive lava]

That’s not what you just said. Want to try again?

[fluid narwhal]

lol

[hearty belfry]

Funny how ive been running across a certain player for months abusing this bug

but what do i know

[cursive lava]

On a scale of 1 to Finall, how much do you know?

[queen jungle]

It is exactly what I said. The issue was known, but barely so. The vast majority of players had no idea about it.

[cursive lava]

And yet, Crytek chose now to do something. After the player base “forced” (lol, right?) them to do it.

Stop talking about things with authority if you have no idea. Either Crytek didn’t know about the issue and the players made it known, or they did care, chose to do nothing, and now the players have forced their hand

[queen jungle]

Inciting possibly thousands of players to ruin the game for others is truly a great achievement. /s

[fluid narwhal]

" First offenders will receive a temporary ban but repeat offenders receive longer bans which can and will lead to a perma-ban. " <--- this is a poor way to punish the people using this exploit

[cursive lava]

Holy crap. I’m done. It’s like arguing with a brick wall. Actually a brick wall could still stand on its foundations. You’ve got nothing.

[fluid narwhal]

you, Nero, i like you XD

[queen jungle]

It's normal for publishers to have various steps of escalation when it comes to punishments. Most publishers only straight up permanently ban for actual cheating, i. e. using third-party software to manipulate the game to gain an advantage.

[fluid narwhal]

i'm pretty sure glitching through SOLID objects to shoot through them is getting an advantage

You: can shoot through SOLID ROCK

Enemy: cannot shoot through SOLID ROCK

seems like an advantage

[cursive lava]

Thank you sir. Honestly, I wouldn’t bother anymore. Finall has no idea. Nor do any of the discord mods really. They’re community managers. Middle men. They just have power for the sake of having power and if Crytek ever decided to manage this discord themselves, the mods would be even more useless than now. Hard to imagine…

[queen jungle]

I gave a definition of cheating, yet you choose to just focus on one aspect.
Cheating and abusing a bug or exploiting a mechanic are not the same. The latter is usually not punished as hard (for first time offenders) as these things can happen by accident, whereas using third-party software to manipulate the game to gain an advantage (= cheating) is done deliberately with malicious intend in any case.

[queen jungle]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

[hearty belfry]

sorry sir, i accidentally performed a desync glitch on the ladder and then wiped a trio through a wall, i really didnt know that was wrong

[cursive lava]

Yet nothing happens regarding cheating…

[hearty belfry]

how can you even defend yourself about exploiting

[cursive lava]

So I’m on Finall levels of knowing things?

[queen jungle]

Curious that you seem to have insight into Crytek's customer support, because otherwise you wouldn't have any such knowledge.
Here's a statement by our Senior Community Manager regarding cheating and how it is being dealt with: #hunt-general message

[fluid narwhal]

we've even confirmed that going back on a lader fixes the glitch.... there's no reason for people who "accidentally" performed the bug to still have it after doing it

[cursive lava]

Can you explain why I see cheaters in almost every game if Crytek is so on the ball about cheating?

[hearty belfry]

Whatever, we'll see how this plays out, hopefully a fix is gonna come out soon to at least fix the desync exploit

[queen jungle]

Read the statement by our community manager. It's rather long, but provides a good explanation or the situation.

[cursive lava]

Hey @queen jungle without making multiple YouTube videos, is Crytek aware of the plethora of server issues? Or shall we, the player base, help more there too?

[fluid narwhal]

he gave up, that's what he did

[cursive lava]

He did.

[fluid narwhal]

probably because Crytek can't fix their game

[hearty belfry]

desync wont be fixed in my opinion since that issue has been in game since closed alpha so i reckon theyll find a way to get around the ladder glitch, unfortunately creating 5 new ones

[queen jungle]

As was stated during a recent dev livestream, server stability is something that is continuously being worked on. There won't just be a patch some day that fixes all issues, such a thing is impossible in a dynamic, constantly changing live-service environment, but any server issues are being worked on.

[cursive lava]

So we’ll find something out soon will be? Because this shit is unplayable.

[spice topaz]

@queen jungle Bad Hand isn't an event hunter skin and has been there to get for months now and will still be there after the event. The chance to actually get it remains very low still.

[unborn wadi]

Oh ho, this was excellent

[fluid narwhal]

light reading for you

[unborn wadi]

This was heavy. I support.

[hearty belfry]

Im sure i speak for the majority of players here that we want this game to thrive, but the ladder glitch is just the straw that broke the camels back as of right now, desync issues, input issues, server issues, guns not reloading, animations/actions not being registered, guns "jamming"
The list goes on, the game is in a sorry state as of right now
but hey, at least the map spinning bug is fixed so thats a plus

[cursive lava]

The map spinning bug was game breaking. Literally unplayable. Glad it was fixed within a week

[fluid narwhal]

true, i'm so glad Crytek put their whole team into fixing that bug as fast as possible

[cursive lava]

I sometimes wonder if PTBs are just so players know what bugs are coming

[plush ledge]

you know what would be even better ? If crytek would stop releasing patches full of bugs they know about on release day

[fluid narwhal]

i'm sorry, what's a PTB? i'm sure i could get that joke better if i know what you mean cx

[burnt mulch]

what if.. just hypothetically, what if

some bugs are easier to fix than others

[fluid narwhal]

no

[hearty belfry]

impossible

[fluid narwhal]

it's been in the game for years, should have been fixed by now

[plush ledge]

any bug players reported to them could've been listed as known in the release patch notes , that's what triggers me . they know it's a buggy mess and they give a fuck

[fluid narwhal]

they do

sort of...

kinda...

ish...

[plush ledge]

they only start fixing when enough players complain loud enough

aka set reddit on fire for every bug or it happens nothing for years

[burnt mulch]

a combination of low visibility/impact and difficulty of fixing can easily push a bug down the backlog pretty damn far.

I'm not really trying to defend crytek here but shit, sometimes y'all be unfair as fuck

[fluid narwhal]

it's unfair that this bug can be used so easily and nothing can or won't be done with it

think about it

[burnt mulch]

think about what? nobody seemed to be bothered by this bug until like a month ago. the impact of it wasn't exactly high

[hearty belfry]

as it was only abused by "higher elo" and ruined the game for a minority of players?

[burnt mulch]

if it was ruining the game, don't you think someone would have heard of it before now?

[plush ledge]

worst thing about it many dudes who would never found out this exist in the first place will now claim it was a ladder kill every time they get wall banged

[hearty belfry]

so its better to leave it like that and quietly work on it and hope it just wont spread, right

[bronze quail]

^^

[fluid narwhal]

i think the majority of players can distinguish blatant exploit/hack from a simple wallbang

[burnt mulch]

that's literally one of the best ways to mitigate the impact of an exploit.

[plush ledge]

nah of course they should fix it but trust me 90% of the playerbase wouldn't find out such things , like the "Berthier crouch bug" ....

[burnt mulch]

you can't exploit something if you don't know how it works

you can't learn how it works if you don't know it exists

[plush ledge]

70% of the players are in low elo , for those guys a headshot at 40m+ when they're moving is already cheating

[burnt mulch]

like, while I don't really think crytek's handling it super well, blanket statements like that are seriously stupid asf

[spice topaz]

Well my partner got called a cheater in between racial slurs for hitting two consecutive shots with an officer just yesterday. And the player wasn't even that new. You put too much faith in people.

[bronze quail]

A week ago a guy on the feedback session was complaining about cheaters cause he got killed while running by a mosin from 80m. He was pretending that it was an impossible shot lol

[plush ledge]

that's the point tho , 80m Mosin shot is easy af at least it should be when you're not completely bad or new

[bronze quail]

But the best of the best was a guy on steam discussions who was saying that every player with more than 2kd is 100% cheating

[plush ledge]

what scares me when those guys have 2k hours and complain about such a shot being impossible

[plush ledge]

90% of my regular mates are cheaters ....damn I wouldn't notice without him

[bronze quail]

Cause they play crouched on a bush and shot only when the enemy is standing still. That's why they think that every other player is a cheater lol

[bronze quail]

Same, i'm going to avoid these guys now that I found out that they are cheating

[plush ledge]

I'm kinda curious what those guys would say when I show them the stats of a mate with 13k kills and 4.5 kd ^^

[bronze quail]

His brain is gonna explode

He is calling the police

[hearty belfry]

Yes and we see how it backfired?

[burnt mulch]

backfired how? because people started using it?
If people knew about it it would have just exploded earlier.