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[tribal wyvern]

Theres nothing that says the boss building is your only allowed area to stay in

[wispy snow]

Yeah most boss compounds had lots of sightlines longer than shotgun range, even inside the boss room itself. Slugs change that a lot.

[bronze quail]

Can you send the message link?

[wispy snow]

You can try to rotate and push but if you were both on a different metal roof, it means crossing pretty open ground without great cover. Frags are super deadly when tossed from high ground. It'd be easier to push if they could leverage some damage by peeking first but again, no good ways to peek.

[bronze quail]

I've been thinking about that on the last few weeks.
I think that slugs changed the game way more than people thinks

[radiant river]

Its the most recent one

[bronze quail]

There is never a good and safe way to peek, but this isn't a valid reason to not do it

[wispy snow]

Shotguns, on average, could one shot kill to 10m. 10m is very short, and can't cover much of the boss rooms. Crossbow could, but crossbow doesn't have ammo capacity like slugs do.

[bronze quail]

Every time you decide to peek from a window or a hole you are risking something, but waiting inside doing nothing is not the solution imo

[wispy snow]

I'm just saying, Bradley lacks options. Few angles, little wall bang potential. Not saying they were right to clam up inside, nor were the attackers right to hold up on metal roofs and never push. it's a compound that doesn't provide great play IMO.

Peeking is always a risk but when you have few angles to peek from, it becomes an even greater risk because it's predictable.

[bronze quail]

Oh yeah definetly. Full brick compounds are trash imo

[tribal wyvern]

@mighty mortar
Guess non of those u asked were a solo player, that idea would be fucking awful.

[wispy snow]

As an aside, I do find Bradley is best attacked by being aggressive because if you can get on their roof, it gives you a lot of options.

But slugs have likewise changed the viability of that.

[tribal wyvern]

Well i had no frags, otherwise i would try that way.
But why would they need to cross anything openly?

And if they have shotguns, you're dead if you do that, goin on their metalroof.

Which we assumed they had, since the only shot we heard being shot at us, was a pistol

[wispy snow]

You're asking them to push you, while you don't push them, and then wondering why in order to push you they'd have to cross an open space? I don't understand.

It's a rough compound, blame that instead of other players for not playing how you want them to. They could likewise blame you for sitting on a metal roof and not moving.

[tribal wyvern]

I guess you didn't read anything i wrote. So let me retype it.

They had berthier & vetterli, we thought they had shotguns.
We had winfields.

Why would i push shotguns, with my winfield? They never peeked anything to shoot at us

It was never "play how i want to", alot of projecting here.

and again, there was never any need to cross open space

[wispy snow]

You're whining that people didn't play like you want them to, regardless of what weapons they have. Either leave the match or push them, don't expect other people to make your life easier.

[tribal wyvern]

Stop projecting, i never said any of that.

And how is shooting long ammo at me making it any easier?

It would be harder for me if they did push out

Your reading comprehension is worse than a toddler

[devout forge]

putting words in your mouth is not projecting

[bronze quail]

He was asking them to do something, they had a berthier and a vetterli, so they were able to shot from inside

[tribal wyvern]

Ye might be a misschoice of word there, but it's not like thats any better.

[bronze quail]

I mean, nobody is saying that they had to play on the way we wanted

[wispy snow]

Again, he was sitting static on a rooftop not doing anything himself. Bradley has bad peeking angles toward those rooftops, very limited and predictable options. Sitting on a metal roof for 20 minutes waiting for the other team to do something is just as lame.

[bronze quail]

But can we agree that waiting inside without doing nothing for 30 minutes it's not a good thing?

[tribal wyvern]

You're an absolute tool. Again you're making stuff up.
This is ridiculous

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[tribal wyvern]

Ye iam just add a bunch of stuff out of context and then claim he did it

[wispy snow]

Cut it with the petty personal insults.

[tribal wyvern]

Then stop making stuff up.

if you're goin to have a discussion atleast pretend like you know what you're talking about

[wispy snow]

Don't bother typing anymore, you're blocked if you're gonna resort to that.

[tribal wyvern]

Ye lets block the guy cuz you get pointed out for spouting nonsense

Even the other ones

are calling you out

Not just me

[bronze quail]

.

[tribal wyvern]

Have some selfobservation

If 3 people claim you're wrong, you might just be wrong.

[wispy snow]

Can't see what you're typing, but if you're gonna keep ignoring the first rules on the discord server it's not going to work out for you.

[wispy snow]

Absolutely, I agree. As I said, I think it's a compound issue. People don't want to push out, others don't want to push in. Some compounds used to be fine, but the threat range of slugs had shifted the dynamic even more.

People used to just not push up to the boss room itself, now they're more likely to hang outside the fence line because slugs have a threat range that basically covers the whole compound.

[bronze quail]

I think that if you are outside and try to shot and throw stuff and after that the guys inside are still doing nothing then the only thing to do is waiting outside

[wispy snow]

Depending on the compound, yes. Basements, even the reworked ones, absolutely.

[bronze quail]

The difference between Freddie and the guys inside is that Freddie at least did something, the guys inside did literally nothing.

[bronze quail]

Sorry, i was talking about brick compounds, i forgot to point that

[wispy snow]

Again, you can leave any time. If you value your loadout so much that you won't push a boss room, you can also just decide to leave and take another match. IMO both teams in this, regardless of their loadout, bear some of the responsibility for not making things happen, and it's the compound that discourages making moves even more.

[bronze quail]

Yeah cause now there are slot of thinks that can ohk, so if you are playing with "normal" guns you are forced to stay more away than before if you don't want to get random one tapped

[bronze quail]

It's not about valuing the loadout, it's about the fact that nobody wants to lose like an idiot. I take risks, but risking that much is just stupid and not funny.

[wispy snow]

At the same time, we have like, 70m nitro one taps to worry about too. If a compound has few angles for pushing or peeking, that can be really scary. They don't even need the headshot.

At least with the normal nitro ammo the one tap range is kinda awkward for the sight.

Dum dums push it too far.

And I mean that in both directions, a nitro hiding in a building holding long angles is also scary.

[clever prawn]

@upbeat vigil that is exactly what de assassin already does?

[bronze quail]

And this is way camping has increased, cause people who camp inside can do it more easily and people outside is more forced to stay far away instead of pushing if they want to play fair

If they want to run and kill relying only on skill then they can just push

[wispy snow]

Again, I'd hesitate to call either one camping or playing fair. Both staying far away and taking pot shots and clamming up inside a boss room result in low engagement playstyles.

[bronze quail]

Cause people inside can cover every angle without risking anything, and if you are outside and you don't want to risk getting one tapped you are forced to stay at least 40m away

So everybody is standing still

[wispy snow]

On bad compounds, yes. Which again I stress this is partly a compound problem.

[bronze quail]

But, for my opinion, inside campers are the biggest problems, and almost always is the team inside who can do something to unlock the fight

[queen jungle]

Hunt doesn't dictate how to play, it's just players who dislike the way others play the game. But ultimately, as long as you successfully extract with the bounty (and don't violate any rules), everything is fine.

[bronze quail]

Yep, I'm taking this for granted

[bronze quail]

Yes, but can i say that waiting 40 minutes without even touching the mouse is not playing?

[wispy snow]

But also if a team of 3 snipers holds up out in the woods and I'm playing with an axe and an nagant precision, sorry I'm not just gonna push them across an open field.

[wispy snow]

The people who never push a room also do this.

[bronze quail]

Well yes

[queen jungle]

It's certainly not the most entertaining strategy, but as long as it works out for them, why not?

[bronze quail]

I mean, at the end of the day the point is that everybody tryes to play the safest possible way without getting even a little risk

[wispy snow]

If you're so scared of pushing boss rooms because they might have a shotgun, you can also bring a shotgun. If they can't push out into a team of snipers because they brought a shotgun, they could also bring a rifle. It's not entirely one sides fault.

[bronze quail]

Cause this forces other people to not play or die pushing inside on 50 traps. (Or leave and leaving is not fun, is a waste of time)

[bronze quail]

I always push if i have something for pushing

[tribal wyvern]

Cause one might think a strategy that goes on boring the other person to death is perhaps not something thats good to encourage. And perhaps the devs should encourage player interactions.

You're just going to get people to quit the game, if it goes down to people just camping 20-30-40minutes a game, not wanting to move out.

[bronze quail]

But i don't want to play the same 3 guns every match

[bronze quail]

This ^^^^

[queen jungle]

Yeah, generally I think teams that do not plan for as many fights as possible are at fault. If everyone just takes long ammo rifles without so much as a bayonet and you end up at a disadvantage having to push close spaces, that's just poor planning on your part.

[tribal wyvern]

So what would you say, can fight at 100+meters & at 10m?
Which includes being able to challenge a shotgun.

I don't think such a loadout exists.

Unless you wanna spend BB on removing traits to get quatermaster

[wispy snow]

I'll agree slugs have made pushing rooms harder because you can hold longer, more dangerous angles. Crossbow could always do this but has its own downsides, so it never felt like a huge problem.

[queen jungle]

Not every member of a team has do be able to do this. When playing trios, we usually have two guys with rifles for medium/long range and one with a shotgun or some other short-range main weapon.
At least take a revolver with fanning or something to cover close ranges.

[tribal wyvern]

And we also go in with the expectations that the person can aim.
Not like a 3star i punched to death with medkit when he had a rival.

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[tribal wyvern]

It's probably easier to cover longer ranges than to cover short ones.
Even with winfield you can Headshot people at 60+m range while they're moving. Without HV it can be trickier.

But unless you have a shotgun, you're not killing a shotgun player, unless he majorly fucks up.

Don't think i've ever died to someone with fanning/nagant officer, unless i whiff my shot so badly. Usually i die to someone at 20+m

Where my shotgun tickles them

I don't disagree with your idea tho. But i just think the game has weapons that are to strong in their areas, that you can't even challenge them with anything else than the same.

[upbeat vigil]

In a really bad way yes

[clever prawn]

what do you suggest then? the only lethal frenzy is the spider form since shes the only one running faster than u

[upbeat vigil]

You have to run from the other bosses during their entire Frenzy state. Most of the time the Assassin is just whooshing around and "blinding" people. He attacks only once at the end of its frenzy. It is awfully long and boring, you can just stand inside the lair and outrun his final attack (or just tank it). Proposal: He should instantly attack you after you get blinded by his clone.

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[clever prawn]

Sooner attack sounds good yes. I agree with that, but as long as you stay inside it's as short as possible, going outside makes it terribly long

[clever prawn]

I have changed my vote in your suggestion now I know what you actually mean with the quicker attack

I agree with that

[unborn smelt]

If one player is affected by the crawling bugs of an exploded clone you can't interrupt his attacks anymore, so you're stuck with tanking a hit or running away, just like all the toehr bosses frenzy

[upbeat vigil]

He does attack you once at the End of his Frenzy and that attack is uninterruptable . That is not comparable to the other bosses Frenzy Modes. I dont know what you mean in your first sentence.

[unborn smelt]

during the assassins frenzy mode he creates 2 clones - which if not killed explode near you and cover your screen in crawling bugs

If a player in the boss lair is hit by this attack - the assassin will stop creating clones and attack. And this attack is uninterruptable as long as the player affected by the crawling bugs from the exploded clone is inside the boss lair

As for the frenzy of the assassin - in lethality it's not comparable to butcher or spider - but it still serves the purpose of a frenzy mode for the most part - which is increasing the time it takes to kill the boss by adding a period if hig dmg resistance every 25% of health

If it needs a change - i'd remove the ability to stunlock the assassin with an axe and stam shot.

[queen jungle]

The thing that’s dumb about this attack tho is that sometimes the assassin spams his clone ability

Like sometimes he does it 3, 4, 5 times in a row

You have no tell when his enrage is done

@oblique linden Frag bomb does not deal explosive damage, that's why the trait doesn't reduce it.

[queen jungle]

They should deal explo damage

I’m sure an exception can be made in the code that makes them deal bleed too

[oblique linden]

i know and this is totally stupid

how many times you got killed by explosives? not a lot, but fragbomb omg

[late wind]

@tranquil terrace that's a sweet idea. But Karl would never agree to it.

[upbeat vigil]

While I´m not entirely sure if the Frenzy works like you said, we can agree that the Assassin in general is not as lethal as the other Bosses. I´d like to change that, firstly because "not lethal" in a game like hunt seems pretty odd and boring and secondly I´d like it to be in line with the Assassins description in the Lore (as a deadly Assassin). But making him to hard would discourage people from killing him, which is why I thought of changing the Frenzy mode. Buffing other parts of him would also work, but that with the Stunlock may be a little too less.

[late wind]

Also, unrelated. But there really needs to be kind of a rework as a whole to Shotguns, Slugs, and the relationship between the two. Because standard buckshot is pretty pathetic, while slugs arguably make shotguns into budget, repeating nitros. Which sucks because it makes them unfun to play with/against.

[red cedar]

i just find it weird that the only long ammo gun that is American is just the sparks

[half stag]

feels like they're scared of U.S copyright infringement laws or something, cuz its only been till recently that we've been getting American guns. And even then, some of them have had their names changed eventhough it is perfectly fine to use (ie the Scottfield), with the game even still coding in their actual names as you can just search "Schofield" in the search bar and it will work, as if they changed the name last minute.

[late wind]

Coulda had the Krag. But no. We got the Berthier.

[red cedar]

the krag jogerson is a norwegian gun

hell

[red cedar]

don't get me wrong

i love the berthier

[red cedar]

((i don't think they will add a krag because its a gun that doesn't require a contrived and stupid trait like bullet grabber compared to other bolt actions))

[red cedar]

i feel like this should of just set this game in the pripyat marshes

lmao

[half stag]

😂

[red cedar]

oh yeah

the funniest fucking thing

they renamed the sharps rifle

a gun that was designed by a company

that went defunct

a fucking century ago

[half stag]

yep xd

[red cedar]

filter words

wait is the f word auto removed

lmao

this shit gets annoying

[half stag]

feel you on that, typed a long ass suggestion before, and then it got filtered cuz of one random word

[red cedar]

too much of pansies to use the name of guns centuries old, no wonder why the auto mod has such a insane amount of flitered words

[ripe basalt]

Its called copyright. And the sparks isn't the only weapon in Hunt that is named different from its real world counterpart.

[wispy snow]

I doubt Spencer was gonna come after anyone for that gun but they still renamed it Specter. It is funny how some guns keep their names and others don't though.

[ripe basalt]

World of legal and copyright

[late wind]

National armories and individual armaments produced by governments aren't copyrighted for some reason. It's why weapons like the Springfield, Lebel, and Mosin have their real names. But weapons made by private companies or individuals had to be changed. Bergmann to Bornhiem. Sharps to Sparks. And so on.

Or why you'll never actually see a "Glock" in a video game. Closest you'll ever get is "G-something". Because Glock is super protective of their name and properties.

[wispy snow]

Huh, good to know about the national vs private difference.

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[cinder jasper]

I suggest allowing booting from the matching engine results and the booted player suffers the timeout penalty. So many times one lovely human just sits there while the rest choose to begin. If you dont want to play with the other two then leave.

Can we get more minority representation? I dont think 65% african and 60% female properly reflects the true fabric of society, your user base or actual cowboys.

[tulip pulsar]

Is there an official response as to why the servers are still dogshit after all this time?

Hell, just region locking and upping the server scaling budget seems obvious.

Still blows my mind that devs nowadays avoid self hosted dedicated servers as an option in addition to official/ranked match making. That right there would offload a ton of players from their servers

[umbral garden]

[gaunt lantern]

@winter nexus Nope, It's a very bad suggestion for a multitude reasons.

-Splits player pools
-Even with crossplay between PS and Xbox, you can't intentionally group with cross platform friends
-Nobody on console wants to fight mouse and keyboard players

Add on loading time differences, hardware differences liable to cause either LOD/pop in issues and major frame rate differences. It's a bad recipe

[clear nacelle]

really ought to have a new boss

[zinc solstice]

if it went by that logic we wouldnt have the slate

specter except i dont need bulletgrabber and it reloads faster

[oak quartz]

@steady shard some of the pellets can hit your head, and the overall kill will not be counted as a headshot.

You can check the DMG of each pellet in the damage history

[steady shard]

It just says 150 flat. Theres no pellet damage in history

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[violet flax]

When will Hunt be available to play on the Steam Deck?

[plush ledge]

Doubt it considering how weak the steam deck is

[alpine gust]

For Veterans, likely they can predict if this is a boring or exciting match. I hope many shares the sentiments of this being a boring one, and Developers will take note. Gunfight at mid-west edge of the map. for our team, this is an AI killing game. predictable stuff. Hunt doesn't reveal where the hunters are in a game, but I played long enough. I played with US servers, compared to Asia, the gunfight is much more alive there. It's not so difficult to guess. 12 players of 4 teams. 1 of the team is coward, and happens to meet the boss with an exit right beside it. How many Hunter teams are left? ~ idiom

[violet flax]

Why do you think it is weak. Hardware? Or not enough steam decks being sold?

[plush ledge]

the hardware , it's not fun playing hunt with 40 fps

[violet flax]

If it can run control it can definitely run hunt at 60fps

Hunt isn't as demanding as Control.

[plush ledge]

What do I miss here? You banished the small bounty just move on to the big bounty or just to the shots you heard . When you want to run off with the small bounty without pvp that's up to you

[plush ledge]

60fps is the bare minimum for a fps game and I highly doubt it considered how bad Hunt is optimised especially past patch 1.7

[violet flax]

Hmmm I may be selling my steam deck when it is in my hands

[plush ledge]

I mean a 4c APU with shared RAM don't sound promising but that all depends what you expect . Will it run Hunt? sure . Will it be playable compared to a decent rig? I highly doubt it . But when you want the Hunt Console experience the steam deck might be the way to go

[violet flax]

Or try installing windows on it.

My main rig is a 5900x CPU with a Red devil 6800xt GPU. For the deck I would make a new steam account just for the steam deck so not to mess with my stats on my main rig.

I know I would not be able to do as well but I just want the opportunity to play on the go

[alpine gust]

it depends. In US server, its a fight to the death. In Asia. No your team mates will run away. can't speak about EU coz latency is too high for me to try.US is already 200

[plush ledge]

you're playing randoms? that might be your main problem

[alpine gust]

unfortunately yes.

[plush ledge]

With regulars I would say just move on the small bounty is almost worthless after the banish but with randoms yeah you need to be kinda masochistic to play randoms

[tribal wyvern]

Counter strike has Glock, no?

[alpine gust]

i think a matchmaking or a game mode that will split AI hunters to Player hunters will be the best. Btw, US random matches don't do this. They also kill each other. No bloody shotgun hiding behind a door for like 40 minutes. and players kill each other even with bounties. unfortunately, the latency is to slow

[vague patio]

ai hunters?! what are you talking about

[pure quest]

this has shown to have a severe impact on gaming

its not recommended to do this 😄

[sick anvil]

Makes me wonder can the APU be ovefclocked and yes can you hook up a Single stage to it . the back draw would be you would have to play with severe frost bite on your fungers but if overclockable you could maybee get something like 70-80 fps out of it

[alpine gust]

AI hunters. Hunters that play Hunt to Kill AI Boss and exit. Why don't they just play RE instead? I just had one game now, we got the first bounty. We are moving in their position to fight and they went to the exit opposite us and escape with their bounty. its was a 6 player game with a very huge map. For all I know, they will play another round. So why not Crytek makes a server with what we have now, and a separate one who wants to play this to the death. I have 2000 BOss kills. Please

[vague patio]

forget it, this is not worth the discussion

[plush ledge]

I've 3500+ boss kills the question is how many duos wiped do you have in comparison,the boss kills alone say nothing

[zinc solstice]

I only play randoms

[queen jungle]

@rugged wigeon @rocky geyser Please keep #feedback for feedback posts only and use this channel if you want to discuss or reply to a post made in #feedback

[warm zephyr]

@mighty mortar lmao idk what kind of players you asked

the sample size is sus

[alpine gust]

exactly the point mate. there has to be a mode leaning towards PVP and less PVE

[queen jungle]

Choke Bombs should get "nerfed" it lasts waaaayyyyy too long. push the duration a little bit down

[zinc solstice]

Just wait

[queen jungle]

it still lasts way to long

90.sec maybe

would be good

[fluid locust]

I mean I think it'd be better if they had a counter

Like everyone carries them and in trios they can have up to 9

Kinda sad they're one of the most effective area denial other than concertina. Poison and fire is not a great deterrent in comparison

(both of which have counters while already not being good area denial)

[karmic ivy]

I have been playing Hunt for over a year now and it is my go to PvP challenge. One reason I play hunt over other games (like rust) is because it has great west coast servers that give me crisp clean low latency gunfights... (I don't get disconnected either) How do I square MY experience with the fact that players seem to be yelling their heads off about the bad quality of the hunt server machines? What is it that explains this? Anyone want to take a shot? something HAS to be the cause of the complaints... What do you think it is?

[devout forge]

@steady shard I like the idea of merging the perks but not the damage reduction ones, I would hate that

[ruby magnet]

I have basically the same experience. Overall nothing bad about so called ping or lag related issues.
Only thing I experience are gameplay bugs that everyone else has.
Don't have fps issues either and my ping is chill on West and decent on Russia

I can relate to frustrating gameplay and getting cheated by desync or getting stuck on terrain by it costing you a life, but disconnects? None other than a crash once in a thousand games.

[devout forge]

I have no issues running the game but I have friends whos machines are as good as mine or better and they have so many issues with the way the game runs

[tribal wyvern]

Same with me & my 3 friends. We have 0 issues, besides the occasional bugs & desyncs. No fps drops, no lagg.
Only time i ever had major lagg it was cause of my own ISP.

And they have equal or worse pcs than mine.

[crystal plume]

@queen jungle You can skip the animation already

[queen jungle]

You can? Since when and how

[native lodge]

hit escape as during the animation

[normal horizon]

Since it got introduced and by clicking back after give offering or pressing esc

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[burnt mulch]

@mossy narwhal splitting of the playerbase. Which would make matchmaking worse and full lobbies less frequent.

[queen jungle]

@floral tusk How does the event require you to pay to complete?

[floral tusk]

@queen jungle for the meridian turncoat $9.99 then you don't HAVE to pay for the smoke bomb. But the extra 800 isn't able to be got unless purchasing the dlc.

[radiant river]

what?

thats not the event

[floral tusk]

@radiant river it's under the event

[radiant river]

so?

its a cosmetic skin

[floral tusk]

That you have to get to complete the event 100% yea

[radiant river]

you can get all 10k points without paying, that is what the event is

[floral tusk]

That's just part of the event.

Go to details friend

[burnt mulch]

whats the difference between this, and an event-sale?

[radiant river]

^

its just a weird method of doing whats basically a sale

[burnt mulch]

the only annoying part is that the sale is bundled.

that 800BB isnt part of the rewards of the event

[floral tusk]

The ardent prize. Is only able to be completed by paying. They should not have included the dlc with it

[burnt mulch]

it’s a rebate

the ardent prize?

[floral tusk]

Do you not even look at the event? Like the event page?

[cedar coyote]

It’s not needed to complete the event, it’s an optional extra

[floral tusk]

The way it's put in there. It's apart of the event.

It's on the event details page...

[burnt mulch]

the way it's put in there. ok please explain.

[cedar coyote]

Not necessary to complete it however

[floral tusk]

Why not leave it with the other dlc

[burnt mulch]

because it's a sale that's being promoted via the event.

[floral tusk]

In order to get the extra 800 it's required

[burnt mulch]

the extra 800 is not part of the rewards track.

[cedar coyote]

But the 800bb are optional

Not required to complete it

[burnt mulch]

the 800 BB is a rebate, a discount, on the choke bombs.

"buy the choke bombs, get 800 BB back"

[floral tusk]

Complete event by unlocking final reward (check)

Purchase the legendary choke bomb cicada from the event store.

Purchase the meridian turncoat dlc

[burnt mulch]

"unlocking final reward" you've already gotten the final reward lol.

so you're saying that because it has "completing the event track" as a prerequisite, you're entitled to it?

[floral tusk]

Yes the event is so easy to get the points

No not the 800 no

But the extra blood bonds from completely finishing it. I'd use towards getting the choke bombs and then the 800 buut you have to pay money for that.

[burnt mulch]

... what?

the extra blood bonds is the 800 BB

what are you talking about

you mean the hunt dollars for getting points over the maximum?

those aren't BBs

[floral tusk]

For the event progress bar you max that and you get blood bonds from that. The 800 is separate

Omfg that's even worse

[floral tusk]

Just saw it was hunt dollars

[radiant river]

thats how it always is

[burnt mulch]

wdym that's even worse? they haven't done blood bonds for overfill points for an insanely long time

[floral tusk]

Makes my pay to finish more a point.

[burnt mulch]

??????????????????

I'm gonna need you to be a bit more coherent my dude.

[floral tusk]

I consider everything in the event page done as the event being done. If it's on the event details page then if you don't have everything on the event. The event isn't completed

[radiant river]

ok who cares

[floral tusk]

In other words I finished the free part of the event

[wind stream]

Complete event by unlocking final reward (check)
final rewards kinda means you finish the event, right?

[radiant river]

you have to pay to "complete the event"

[burnt mulch]

that's kinda your own definition of "completing the event" then yeah?

[radiant river]

but it doesnt matter because the free part of the event is the important part

[floral tusk]

@wind stream do I have to pay to finish the ardent prize or is it only able to be finished with cash?

@radiant river I'm a completionist

[radiant river]

ok then pay the money

[burnt mulch]

... cope.

[wind stream]

I get completing stuff like skins, but blood bonds?

[burnt mulch]

oh it's called the ardent prize lmao

[floral tusk]

That's just a part of the ardent prize

[burnt mulch]

funny, I have so few fucks to give about it that I never learned what they called it

[floral tusk]

Which is in the event

[wind stream]

the ardent prize is just 800 BBs

there is nothing else to it

the prerequisit for that prize is to "unlock the final reward", which means you finished the event

[floral tusk]

It's in the event. On the event details page. I'm a completionist so these things do matter when trying to do everything you can on an event.

There's 3 things you need to do to get it

[wind stream]

if you care that much about completing it you should buy the Turncoat

its like saying I want to have all DLCs and being mad that it costs money

[floral tusk]

One is free, one you can have enough bbs saved for but the turncoat is a mandatorybuy

[wind stream]

no, you cant save BBs to buy DLCs

[burnt mulch]

"completing the event" is unlocking the last reward on the reward track.
Just because you consider "completion" as "do everything on the event page" doesn't mean that's what they consider completion.

[wind stream]

you have to get them with real money

I dont see the difference here

[floral tusk]

Yea you can lol save up to get the smoke bombs

[wind stream]

Im talking about DLCs

[burnt mulch]

y'know what I'm gonna let you handle this one

[floral tusk]

I know. I already know that.

[wind stream]

if you are a completionist you probably want to have all skins, right?

[floral tusk]

At a certain point when I get another contract

And have the money I can spend on not bills

[wind stream]

then I don't get it, you dont miss out on anything in the long run, you will have 800BBs less than some other people

[floral tusk]

Js an event isn't completed till you have the event page completed

[wind stream]

you can earn those simply by playing

to me an event is completed when you got everything unique you can get

which in this case means getting to 10k points

[floral tusk]

Not to a completionist

[wind stream]

I dont know, seems you are pretty alone with that one

but I see what you would like

[floral tusk]

We are different the the normal casual or hardcore players even

[wind stream]

I still think it's a bit weird to be upset about having to buy a DLC for this sense of completion when you eventually want them all anyway

[floral tusk]

I just wanted an answer to why the meridian is in the event as a required to finish

[wind stream]

isnt that obvious? To encourage you to buy it

[floral tusk]

But he was out before the event even started...

[wind stream]

he released the day the event started

[tribal wyvern]

Well so were the rat, the kid, loronas heir, yet they were encouraged to be bought aswell because they gave the 10% bonus.

[floral tusk]

I could be wrong but I think it was like a week or a few days prior

[wind stream]

it was the same day

I know because I received him after I started playing the event

[tribal wyvern]

Was prob on steam a week before, but not able to be bought.

[floral tusk]

I'll accept that one. That's understandable

But just sucks that he's put in to block my completion. Without that I could grind and grind to get the smoke bombs but I can't grind to get turncoat :(

[tribal wyvern]

But all DLCS are blocking your completion then.
Rat, Loronas heir, Phantom, Bone Doctor, Cain, The kid, etc etc are all DLCs that BB cant buy

[floral tusk]

Guess you didn't see where I said I'm just waiting for another contract?

I do construction so it's by contract not by hour or however stores do their pay

Dlc should have been in the dlcs though not to complete the event entirely. But it was specified that he is an event skin so all I can do is be salty I can't finish the full event

[radiant river]

you can buy the skin after the event ends

[floral tusk]

I know. I'm not worried about that. It's just seeing the page incompletes bugs me

I 100% games I don't just casually play them. So when I like a game I want to do everything. Complete every challenge. I only have 2 more achievements for steam and it's 100%

[wind stream]

@coral thicket you need to contact #customer-support

[coral thicket]

@wind streamthank! I'll try to appeal!

[floral tusk]

That looks like a call to the principles office. Best of luck

[coral thicket]

this is my steam URL:https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198957830644/

[wind stream]

I dont need it, there is nothing I can do, write official support, they are the only ones that might be able to help you

[queen jungle]

whats with the servers ??????????????????

[floral tusk]

@coral thicket might not want that floating in here too btw. Can't trust society.

[wind stream]

linking your steam profile is rather harmless

the worst thing that is likely to happen is some scammer trying to tell you they accidentally reported you 😆

but I havent seen many of those lately

[vague patio]

people harrassing you

[wind stream]

yeah but they can do the same on discord tbh

[coral thicket]

I cherish my Steam account and hate cheating players! I won't use cheating software!

[fluid locust]

Crytek greed I thought it was obvious lol

[bronze quail]

@coral thicket did you abused some glitches or bugs to get some sort of advantage? Even by mistake

[queen jungle]

servers again

pls crytek

in the middle of killing the boss

[rough wyvern]

DENIS MAN!!! DLCs every day........ but bugs and servers suxxxx

[midnight tapir]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[queen jungle]

true

and not a single time the game can reconnect me, this needs a fix asap

[rough wyvern]

nahh they work on new dlc

[mint coral]

Good job Dennis

[queen jungle]

and not a single answer or tweet from them

[mint coral]

Dennis is swimming in his pool right now

paid with dlcs

[rough wyvern]

but u can buy a new dlc soon...... like next map in 10 years... 0 new content... but DLC

[potent wagon]

Awesome Dennis

[vague patio]

i bet he cant even afford and blow up pool tho

[wheat flower]

FIX THE SERVERS!

[vague patio]

yall can stop, everyone knows servers crashed. Dont need to vilianize devs right now

[rough wyvern]

go buy a dlc to feel better

[coral thicket]

@bronze quailI bought and used crosshair x on steam on the recommendation of my friends. I don't know if it will lead to ban. A lot of people buy and use it for games!

[mint coral]

Servers back up, Thanks Dennis

[queen jungle]

then why not a single word from them

[wind stream]

third party software is against the TOS

[queen jungle]

they said they are gonna be more transparent

[mint coral]

Because they stop working at 3pm in germany

[rough wyvern]

dude i met a aimbot user prestige 96..... does this answer your question about 3rd party, and bannsss????

[burnt widget]

Why is reshade whitelisted on EAC

[vague patio]

no

[wind stream]

I didnt ask any questions

[wind stream]

ask EAC that

[coral thicket]

@wind streamMany people use it for games, including some game anchors who recommend it! That's why I used it!

[burnt mulch]

you can contact crytek's support for help then.

and if the.. "game anchors" are playing hunt, they're also risking getting penalized.

[bronze quail]

Crosshair x is the same as using reshade

I can't understand why the first is bannable and the second isnt

[burnt mulch]

reshade is bannable.

[queen jungle]

You should always avoid using any third-party software that influences the game, unless specifically permitted by a game's publisher.

[bronze quail]

Is bannable and is not at the same time. I've asked blakki so many times about reshade and he always told me that the only way to get banned for reshade is manually, and this is something that can almost never happen

Only softwares that modify game files are bannable by eac afaik

[burnt widget]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMfH5X56a4o

big content creator advertising reshade

very banable

[burnt mulch]

it's bannable if you use it to gain ingame advantages, which is an extremely gray line.

[bronze quail]

And reshade is actually whitelisted by eac but you can still get manually banned for that. The point is that is almost impossible to prove that you are using reshade only by watching clips, so you can never get manually banned cause of lack of proves

[burnt widget]

there is literally not a single thing in reshade that doesnt give you a advantage

[queen jungle]

Content creators are not special when it comes to the rules. It's pretty inappropriate and irresponsible for popular influencers to recommend using third-party software tbh.

[burnt mulch]

so it's bannable.

[rough wyvern]

again????

[burnt widget]

Why isnt he banned

There is a lack of logic behind it

[burnt mulch]

because crytek doesn't go around youtube/twitch looking for people to ban for reshade, and I've never heard of this guy? lol

[coral thicket]

I'm sorry, because I saw many game anchors use it. I like this game very much. The game is banned. I'm very sad!

[burnt widget]

There's a video right now, right there

[bronze quail]

I have a color grading monitor, 4k, Adobe RGB and shit, settings on my monitor are better than using reshade sometimes, what I'm supposed to do? Dont use it and take a shitty TN gaming panel only cause i have a slightly advantage over other players? Cm on

[burnt widget]

So let's see if anything will happens

[burnt mulch]

there's like 2 people who work at crytek that hang out here

and one of them is a digital artist

[potent wagon]

Dennis what is going on

[bronze quail]

Wallhack and aimbot are advantages, looking slightly better a Cain in a bush or 10m more of visibility on night time can't be considered a game breaking advantage

[burnt widget]

Gotta wait a few months to get a respond on their ticket thing then

[queen jungle]

I am just a Discord mod, not a member of Crytek's customer support team, so I cannot provide any insight into the rules.
All I can say is that using third-party software like reshade may have consequences, so I recommend avoiding using any such software.

[burnt widget]

there are way more things you can do with reshade

[burnt mulch]

like, you're free to use it if you want, just like you're technically free to use aimbots. you just can't really complain if you get banned for it.

[burnt widget]

Than sharpen contrast and brightness

[rough wyvern]

i never heard of someone get banned in this game... so feel freee usin cheats

[queen jungle]

Reshade aint bannable

[bronze quail]

The difference is that eac bans softwares that change game files, reshade doesn't change any game file

[mint coral]

true, I think one of my teammate is cheating

[bronze quail]

You can get manually banned but you can't actually get banned cause there is no way to prove that you were using reshade

[burnt mulch]

good thing I'm not talking about EAC?

[burnt widget]

it is considered 3rd party software so apparently it is but i never heard anyone getting banned for it

[queen jungle]

You cant

[bronze quail]

You can't what

[queen jungle]

You wont get banned for reshade

[coral thicket]

@burnt mulchUse: will crosshair x lead to game ban?

[queen jungle]

No @coral thicket

[silent tartan]

many streamers would be manually banned already and tbh, I never heard about anyone getting banned for resahde

[wind stream]

contact the official support, there is nobody here that will tell you that actually knows

[silent tartan]

even tho there is other stuff than changing colors, you can add crosshair, you can toggle zoom for iron sights etc

[bronze quail]

That's what I was saying

[queen jungle]

I personally know the guy that handles all the bans, u wont get banned

[silent tartan]

didnt we get an actual offical answer already

[wind stream]

good for you, tell them I said hi

[queen jungle]

Tell them yourself

[silent tartan]

#hunt-general message
I wonder what counts as "getting an adventage" tho

[burnt widget]

Crytek already gives you free wallhacks with low object qual recently, so i am fine with everything

[bronze quail]

Yeah, no need of reshade atm if i can see people behind walls only by changing game settings

[queen jungle]

Regarding crosshair overlays: Dennis literally on his stream said that it doesnt matter since you can have a close to permanent crosshair with gunslinger already so it doesnt matter

[wind stream]

tell that to the people coming in here complaining about getting banned for using crosshair software

[queen jungle]

Tell dennis to tell them that

[bronze quail]

This sentence means everything and nothing at the same time

An that's what blakky told us when we askd

[silent tartan]

ok but what are the limits then

[bronze quail]

Idk

[queen jungle]

Please only rely on official statements made by Crytek's customer support representatives. They are the ones enforcing the rules and when in doubt they are the ones who can give you a reliable answer in writing.

[ionic kernel]

gotta love it when the line about being banned is blurry

[bronze quail]

I mean, im fine if devs decide to ban reshade and stuff, but atm they need to clarify a lot of stuff

Every time they have been very vague about what "getting an advantage" means

[queen jungle]

Please only rely on official statements made by Crytek's customer support representatives. They are the ones enforcing the rules and when in doubt they are the ones who can give you a reliable answer in writing. <- this

[bronze quail]

Is it that hard to stay clairly if is it bannable or not?

[burnt mulch]

then quit telling people that reshade isn't bannable.

[queen jungle]

Its not banable

[silent tartan]

[queen jungle]

[tacit kiln]

pretty sure that is altering the game in a fashion that may give an advantage, or bannable

[bronze quail]

It is but at the same time it's not

So you decide

[queen jungle]

its not altering the game tho is it? Technically?

its just like screen settings?

🤔

[bronze quail]

If you are fine to risk that 0.00001% of getting banned then use it

If not, then not use ir

[queen jungle]

what can you even do with reshade that you cant already with game or monitor settings

[burnt mulch]

... a lot. have you used reshade?

[tacit kiln]

I could make a reshade that just made my game pitch black and I would still prolly find a way that it give me an advantage, which is the boon of a vague statement like that

[bronze quail]

Screen settings + some extras

[queen jungle]

make your screen brighter?

[silent tartan]

Ive never heard about someone getting banned for using reshade in hunt, never seen stuff that could actually give adventage there, so idk
You can change colors, make custom crosshair, "zoom" button but still, nobody got banned for it

[queen jungle]

Yeah I played around with it but whats like the big thing that makes people go "omg this should be bannable"

[queen jungle]

Nobody except for Crytek's customer support is in the position to give you an answer to such a question.

As a fellow gamer, please please please only listen to what a publisher's customer support tells you. I've seen too many people trusting streamers or other players and getting punished as a consequence.

[silent tartan]

Some people even said "you can remove fog" in reshade but obv, it doesnt interact with game so its impossiblu

[silent tartan]

ngl kinda curious who got punished for what

[queen jungle]

Some people said you can remove fog with nvidia filters too, absolute idiots

[silent tartan]

cant remember any big drama

[radiant river]

you can do some insane stuff

[bronze quail]

What are the "advantage" settings that are only on resahde?
Changing contrast? I have that on my monitor setting
Adaptive sharpening? I have that on my monitor
Eye adaption? I have that on my monitor
Zoom? I have that on my monitor
Gamma correction? I have that on my monitor
Adaptive contrast? I have that on my monitor
Color correction? I have that on my monitor.

Reshade gives you better tweaks, but nothing that game breaking to compare it to cheating imo

[silent tartan]

There was nvidia filter feature "Auto greenscreen" which was the best thing ever, you could greenscreen hunters or some objects realtime

But ofc gone

[radiant river]

idk if it works the same in hunt, but for some other games you could make players bright pink and keep everything else the same. reshade actually effects how the game is rendered, its not just an overlay like on your monitor

[bronze quail]

I was asking that to devs. Is it that hard for them to tell us what is ok and what is not?

[queen jungle]

Did you open a ticket with customer support?

idk bruh, if you argue that reshade is bannable cause people can brighten their screen you might aswell argue that using discord is a third party program that has advantages over random trios that you play against since you have fluent, uninterrupted communication, same thing

[bronze quail]

It was a retoric question. As I said me and a fried asked blakky on pm a bit less than a year ago about that.
I don't think that they are going to answer me if i made a ticket. It's been more than 2 years since everybody started asking that and we still don't have a valid answer

[silent tartan]

Ngl im tempted to download reshade and try my best to use settings that would give adventage

• there is some tools that could be useful for me, like "auto cinematic black bars"

[bronze quail]

I think that maybe crosshair can help sometimes, but you still need aim to kill ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bronze quail]

If you are into cinematics then on resahde you can find a lot of tools for that

[silent tartan]

the crosshair might be good for new players, for me it would just be annoying

[queen jungle]

TBH it's not surprising that you never got a reply via DM as that's not an official channel of communication.

[bronze quail]

Hunt looks way more better with reshade imo

[queen jungle]

A custom crosshair will never make you hit a shot that you wont hit without one

I tried it

[bronze quail]

I've got a reply from him. I told here what he answered

[queen jungle]

There is zero difference

[bronze quail]

I know, is A BIT useful playing hunter mode for quick shots, but is far from being an advantage

[queen jungle]

But yeah idk, they should just come out and say "this and that is not allowed"

[bronze quail]

Yep

[queen jungle]

instead of letting people do this fearmongering of "you will be banned or should be banned" lmao

People praise crytek for being transparent yet here we are

🍵 🐸

[wind stream]

Its simple, the use of 3rd party software to gain an advantage is against the ToS. If you want to use 3rd party software but aren't certain if it counts as gaining an advantage contact #customer-support or use it at your own risk.

[queen jungle]

servers crashed again....

wtf

so no hunt today i guess

[mint coral]

wait it will come back

it crashed like 3 times already

[queen jungle]

i know. but even my kills are gone, like i never killed a single enemy. this is so annoying

i got a disconnect 4 matches in a row

[rancid monolith]

servers gg

[lethal silo]

@bronze quail hey I liked you suggesting about adding starshell ammo to all the shotguns but I put my own spin on it on my own suggestion of it

[sick anvil]

serversare the true killers in this event they killed more hunters than the top 100 on the leaderboards

[queen jungle]

yep

[queen jungle]

is discord included in this?

[wind stream]

if you are uncertain you can contact #customer-support

[queen jungle]

or MSI afterburner if I overclock my GPU to gain more FPS!? Like, wheres the line 😵‍💫

Ok ok I will message

[sick anvil]

wishy washy

[bronze quail]

Upvoted ^^^

[bronze quail]

They are gonna tell you that if it gives you an advantage then it's bannable ¯_(ツ)_/¯

So we are going to be here again asking ourselves what getting an advantage means

[sick anvil]

hmm does this apply to 3rd party cooling too ?

do i really have to run stock cooling ?

[bronze quail]

@sick anvil if you cool your cpu and GPU that means that you get more fps and more fps = advantage

[sick anvil]

thought so

[lethal silo]

thank you I hope you liked it

[bronze quail]

It's like my suggestion, but better

[native lodge]

oh god C&K star shell with more ammo, I can feel the frame drops already

[lethal silo]

I was personally thinking about the Terminus and how fun it could be just shooting flares everywhere

I was even thinking of maybe at some point we could get a legendary version of starshell where each shot is a different colour

[native lodge]

it may actually be fun but I do think it would tank performance to allow shotguns to spam out flares like that

wouldn't know without testing

[unborn smelt]

Yes yes it would

On my old rig a fuzee or flare tanked my performance - to the point i never used them ever

[lethal silo]

I don't think it with tank the performance too much because a lot of people don't take flares or Starshells and just because it would have more ammo reserve and be on all shotguns doesn't mean people want to meme all the time I think it would be used the same amount is concertina arrow and dragon's breath which both I like

[native lodge]

yeah if one tanked performance, a wall of them certainly would for a lot of people

[lethal silo]

but to actually maybe fix an issue if a lot of people start using it and it starts taking performance resources maybe they could make it so starshell disappears faster compared to a normal flare

which would not be a problem because you have more of them if we get this update

[lethal silo]

I would say that's you own equipment at fault and not so much the game

[native lodge]

not being able to handle one flare would be his rigs fault

not being able to handle a wall of flares

would be the games fault

I doubt they are gonna but to much effort into trying to make meme work, as funny as it would be

[lethal silo]

yes I see where the problem would show up because I tried where me and my mates all three of us use dragon breath and we started losing frames but as soon as we stopped firing it was back to normal

with the Terminus by the way

[native lodge]

alright so even if the effects were gone quickly there would still be a noticeable drop in performance if it was spammed

which is why I doubt they would do it

[lethal silo]

then maybe instead of getting starshells on all shotguns we just get increase reserve with it I would be happy if you just have 50% more ammo with starshells for example on the Romero you only get 3 in reserve and then 6 if you take in both slots

I think that's insane compared to if you take penny rounds I think you can get up to 20

when they are both auntie AI and cost the same amount

[tranquil berry]

Did something happen to servers?

[lethal silo]

are s*** here we go again

[tranquil berry]

2 of my games just completly cancelled in a row

[native lodge]

EU servers have been having some trouble it seems

[tranquil berry]

Maybe I should change my server choice for now

thanks

[native lodge]

NAE has been doing fine if you don't mind the extra ping

[tranquil berry]

I will try it and see if it is too bad or playable

[ancient lava]

Fix your servers pls

[frosty garnet]

@spring ginkgo, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

PLEASE for the love of the holy grale!!!!

Bring stability to the backend servers !! After 4 years with a massive increase in newplayers, the servers need to fullfill the demands.

If you would put more dedication and focus on working for more stability in regards to the servers rather than all these new fancy ingame changes and new skins etc. people would eventually start enjoying the game.

Stabilty before ingame features!```

[ancient lava]

@tranquil berry exactly

[tranquil berry]

Thanks for the replies people 🙂

[lethal silo]

I'm really starting to think people don't know how to write a suggestion or they don't care🤣

like he didn't even try

like it's a valid request but why all the big letters in the middle of the conversation like you shouting

[spring ginkgo]

Bring stability to the backend servers. After 4 years with a massive increase in new players, the servers need to fullfill the demands.

I suggest you invest in more dedicated time and focus to bring stability to the servers rather than all the new fancy ingame changes, new skins etc. People might eventually start enjoying the game again.

Stabilty before ingame features, changes and modifications.

[lethal silo]

and not just on this one but I've seen so many who use suggestions to cry about problems when we have other channels for stuff like this

[lethal silo]

you not supposed to write it here and you need to put title

detail

in that order

like look at all the suggestions they are all written

title

detail or description and then you suggestion

[steady shard]

Wrong person lol

[safe mountain]

Ey developers, I saw this post in reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/nudmil/ideas_for_tracking_other_hunters/) a while ago. There are some good ideas to implement in the future. What do you say?

[distant scarab]

fix the servers

[sturdy drift]

guess the server stability is in its worst state ever or im wrong? pretty crazy how many outages i've encountered the last weeks. that will have an impact on the playerbase for sure... so sad.

[frosty garnet]

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Fix the game, would be lovely to get to extraction when you have finished everything else in the map and not get kicked by the game. Ty in advance```

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Would be cool to put people on fire with 2 incendiary shots instead of looking for a lantern for half an hour```

[crimson sinew]

ops wrong category lol

[sick anvil]

Give it time it will become easier losing characters .
Perks are optional , you can easily get a character from 0-50 with out a single perk

[frosty garnet]

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Hardware utilization and optimization : add in dx12 and or dx vulkan support that is already implemented in cryengine 5

Legendary silence veterlli

(don't implement) immolator dogs```

[winged perch]

Been playing for a few hundred hours on PC/PS4 and the best piece of advice I can give is that you can overcome all of the best perks and weapons with free characters and lower tier weapons by just investing time to see what your fav play style is. Grind out some quick play or use cheaper weapons of certain types (bolts, levers, shotguns, etc.) with friends to get used to different ways to play. Gunplay is the end-all for Hunt. Perks make some things easier, but getting used to rotations and when to/not to push enemies after hitting them will always be much much better. Don’t even give them time to use their stuff.

[crimson sinew]

Honestly if this game is going to keep being stale and stagnating on progress, I'll just find another game. Not all games are for everyone.

[winged perch]

Thats fair. Hunt is definitely my favorite FPS at the moment because of the gunplay and tactics used. They have added a lot more content in the past year with events/maps/weapons than they did in years past, and it’s helped keep me invested. But even without all that, I enjoy the hell out of the game, even solo. But like you said, not all games are for everyone. Definitely recommend being patient if you intend on continuing to play. It took me quite a bit over 45 hours to find the weapons and play style I like best. And I believe Hunt is versatile enough for everyone to find something they enjoy in it.

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Please add a single shotshell to the flairgun.```

[ruby magnet]

@queen jungle I understand your suggestion, but is this only for the weapons that have split ammo pools? Aka the singleshot weapons and the berthier?
And you are aware we can't swap ammo type on magazine fed weapons?

[wind stream]

thats not entirely true, the berthier has 2 custom ammo slots

[ruby magnet]

Read closely. I put the berthier together with the single shot weapons.

[wind stream]

my b

[ruby magnet]

No worries.

[wind stream]

tbh Im not sure why the berthier has it 😆

but if I could buy 2 incend rounds on the sparks sniper I would always bring it

just for those sweet barrel kills

[ruby magnet]

Something something enbloc magic and giving the berthier something unique in advantage instead of it being a carbined lebel

[supple helm]

I mean I'd honestly find it interesting to give the Flaregun the capability to have 2 different ammo types

Slugs + Flares?

Would be dope

[ruby magnet]

I mean... having 1 stack of incendiary ammo on your long ammo rifle is actually a nice touch for said barrels.

The flaregun?

Slugs on a flare gun... somehow that doesn't click in my head. Just getting obliterated by a flaregun because it was loaded with a slug

[supple helm]

It wouldn't be very different from getting railed by the slugs in a Lemat

[ruby magnet]

Getting obliterated by a flaregun period is something I've never seen before

Well..... umm.... you are correct there.

To be fair it does make the lemat 10x more reliable to put the invader down when you're in a scrape

I'd say the same about penny shot if that ever gets added to the lemat. Can't make the spread wider than it already is. And even when facetaking at 2 meters the lemat in buckshot can let you down.

I think penny shot at least makes the kill 5x more likely because of the sheer damage of penny shot

[supple helm]

I managed to not kill someone with the Lemat that was in melee range lol

Had the crosshair on that guy's chest

[ruby magnet]

Yeah... thats a feels bad... because some pellets decided to go over the mountains.

[supple helm]

Yup

[ruby magnet]

Penny shot is just as much kill or bust. But you need to hit less pellets to kill em. Even grazes at that distance with penny shot will absolutely hurt.

[supple helm]

Shotguns without slugs tbf are very inconsistent in general xD

[ruby magnet]

Well... not really... but thats really about how you want to play your shotgun.

[supple helm]

But on the other hand I can headshot ppl at 30m range with Slugs and destroy their will to live

[ruby magnet]

I've had plenty of good experience with shotguns because I'm not gambling 15m range shots. When I shotgun someone... its close enough that any type other than the handcannon would do the job.

To share my opinion on slugs... I don't like their current itteration. Not one bit.

Yes they are strong, but there's no give and take. It's take is literally... no ads no power.

[supple helm]

Shotguns in general are in a weird spot for me, considering that I rarely get killed by them anymore They just don't seem nearly as strong as the other ammo types

I find the crossbow and bow to be more powerful at this point for close range engagements

[ruby magnet]

Bow and crossbow are lethal bastards. Bit more unforgiving, but way more sinister.

[supple helm]

A player that is good with the crossbow is scary Because hot damn it's powerful

[ruby magnet]

I'm usually the one shotgunning and besides fighting a crossbow or bow... I have no qualms fighting a slug up close.

But thats mostly because I've found that people with a crossbow play more quiet and silent than shotguns.

So whenever I roll in with my shotgun at a measured pace I get nervous that there's a crossbow waiting around the corner.

Where people with shotguns are running fast and throw caution to the wind when turning a corner at Mach 3.

Probably been playing too much rainbow 6 siege and just holding the corner with my shotgun the moment I hear a shotgunner running at me blaring gotta go fast.

[supple helm]

What about Crossbow players that breach corners at Mach 3?

[ruby magnet]

Never met em.

And thats coming from someone who rarely sees a crossbow shooter because it's all long ammo/ slugs I face. With the occasional stray centennial and vetterli

For those medium ammo connoisseurs

[supple helm]

Centennial makes me sad

It's such an akward gun rn

[ruby magnet]

It's... almost good.

[supple helm]

Vetterli though Now that's a good gun

[ruby magnet]

Yeah but why is it a good gun lol

It's quick, hits hard, good ammo.

And has good variants

Cent sniper... is... like a Springfield. Marksman... hit the head or bust.

And not being able to down hunters at 125 max hp sucks.

[supple helm]

But at that point I'd rather play Lebel Marksman

Or Springfield marksman

[ruby magnet]

Hm. I like my Springfield marksman. It's an absolute skill cannon. Makes kills rewarding.

[supple helm]

Or Martini Marksman

Anything but Centennial Sniper xD

[ruby magnet]

Martini for sniping I have my gripes with... its... trying to be a sparks? But it gives up close combat ease of use.

But back to the centennial. I really like one of the suggestions on this channel involving a new long ammo pistol, the uppercut and the centennial

[supple helm]

2nd long ammo pistol would be dope

[ruby magnet]

well there's 2 suggestions I try to combine.

1. Swap the centennial damage with the uppercut damage. That allows the centennial to be more dangerous to downed hunters. Its slow cycle rate makes 2 taps against enemies at 125 difficult because they are often in a do or die mindset anyways and will unlikely duck away from the follow up and will just try to outshoot you with rof.

this also nerfs the uppercut I know, but it's still long ammo will still pen like crazy and keep good damage at range for shotgun back up firearms.

the second one involves the new pistol
2. Add a single shot long ammo pistol with 1 + 9 ammo pool and nerf the uppercut ammo pool to 6 + 6, but keeps its damage. This way you can still stack long ammo on your lebel, but doesn't make ammo on your mosin even more ridiculous to resupply. Uppercut still a decent back up for shotgunners, but less good for mosin/ lebel users.

Combining the two would look like this: Long ammo pistol has higher damage (around 137), Uppercut swaps with cent (so 123?), but ammo stays the same for the uppercut.
Want more oompf in your side arm? take the singelshot. Want a reliable fallback? pick the uppercut, but dont expect to cheapshot 125 hp hunters through a wall. Use your rifle or shotgun my gamer...
Centennial becomes powerfull, with medium ammo downsides.

[vague patio]

agree except centennial changes

[ruby magnet]

nani?

uppercut is basically a small slot vetterli with better pen.

[supple helm]

I think those would be decent balance changes @ruby magnet 👍

[ruby magnet]

still kinda falls flat without a weapon to challenge the uppercut in the pistol department.

[vague patio]

making the centennial +125 damage erases its identity. it should be buffed in another way

uppercut nerf is imo necessary

or a general rework/rethink of sidearms

there are just super weird inconsistencies and weird balancing decisions

[lethal oyster]

It has become remarkably boring to read #feedback atm. Yes servers are bad but c'mon is there nothing more interesting to complain about? -.-

[jagged wagon]

I don't think the feedback section was ever intended to be an exciting read, its there for people to feedback whats going well and whats not, and right now the servers are certainly the no. 1 example of whats not going well, hence people complaining about them.

[gritty root]

So you can choose from: bad hit registration, fps drops in compounds, menu bugs, desync, reconnect bugs, crosshair bug, banish percentage bug, change special ammo bug, texture missing/crytek ingame wallhack for free bug, Immolator unable to hit bug, and other bugs that are in game for years now 🙂 There isn´t section in this game that working properly but fixed servers are No.1 in FPS game

[lethal oyster]

Yeah obvs it's not meant to be entertaining but it usually still is. Mainly because a lot of issues spark a lot of discussion, like the Cain debate recently. But the server thing pretty much everyone agrees on, which is good for the community but bad for someone just looking for people arguing.

[vague patio]

to be fair, the servers crashed and there was nothing better to do lol

i dont share the sentiment of bashing the devs or shittalking, only show how bad the community actually is

[iron yew]

I feel the uppercut is protected from nerfs cos its a "skill" weapon. They are always protected by high skill players. when i make gun build its hard not to include the uppercut. its so damn good at so much

no 3 slot rifle/shotgun weapon dwarfs the rest compared to how the uppercut does to pistol class

[ruby magnet]

What typifies the centennial in your eyes? And does it feel good to play?

To me it feels cumbersome. Speedy bullet yes, but sound and cycle speed compared to the damage feels off. It feels like a heavy weapon. Some might say it sounds like a small cannon you're firing, but when you hit something 50 to 60 meters out it feels... well... flat.

[iron yew]

yeah devs should never be bashed. managers and CEOs on the other hand.... 😛

[vague patio]

medium rifle headclicker

and it feels good as that

cycle speed would be the best thing to buff imo

[vapid garden]

you put what I dont like about the centennial perfectly

and you are right

[vague patio]

making it plus 125 damage would make it just vetterli but leveraction basically

[vapid garden]

I don't really think thats much of a problem considering you'll probably fire the centennial slower despite the lever action

[supple helm]

But don't all these weapons pale in comparison to the grand Crossbow?

[ruby magnet]

I'm not saying to buff both sides though. Either make it faster or bump the damage up a little.

[vapid garden]

I just think it needs far better damage range considering its muzzle velocity

I shouldn't find myself having to 3 shot torso past 70

[ruby magnet]

Mv doesn't translate to damage range though. I don't mind it being a zippy bullet with low damage, but make it not feel like a 140 damage bullet being cycled with each shot

[vapid garden]

although I'm not sure how that stacks up to other medium ammo rifles and their damage drop off.

[ruby magnet]

Ammo type translates to damage though and that's where the cent is having a drawback. It has speed of long ammo, but not the damage retention over range because of medium type ammo

[vapid garden]

I suppose id just expect it to have some better damage range is all

[ruby magnet]

Vetterli is more reliable because of its higher front loaded damage

There is more damage that tapers off before you get the same centennial result

[vapid garden]

vetterli do just be better idk what the point of buying the centennial is

levering can't save it either

[vague patio]

i also thing, the cycle of the cent feels particularly awkward.

remember, when it got added it was 307 and had 4 bullets less

rn it remains good muzzle despite fmj, thats a niche some prefer to use it

[ruby magnet]

I do agree FMJ on the cent makes it a springfield with magazine capacity, which makes body shot damage still feel respectable. It's basically my go to whenever I am stuck with akimbo trait and want to run centennial

run double scott fmj + cent fmj

and just body tap things with springfield bullets. It's good, but I'm no headclicker so I generally go for the body and then the damage feels flat on regular ammo.

[supple helm]

Besides the massive hit on bullet velocity

[sick anvil]

its not the bullet velocity its just AMD ammo more IPC less clock

Sorry could not resist

[supple helm]

Wtf? xD

[crystal plume]

@queen jungle Do not post troll suggestions

[queen jungle]

sorry for my late answer but Yes, it was meant for single-shot weapons like Henry, Springfield, etc... im not sure how it would work with Berthier, maybe buy amount of 3 (because magazine), anyway ppl doesen´t like my idea so nevermind

[rocky orchid]

i like your idea.. more settings to play with.. like in "world of tanks" where you can buy X amount of AP, HE and "premium ammo".. I really would like to have X amount of bleed rounds, X amount of FMJ and X Amount of normal ammo..

[outer jungle]

@pure quest .. so basically like bleeding , poison effect

[pure quest]

but one that stops by itself

[outer jungle]

5 seconds ... that cannot be stopped ?

[pure quest]

you can stop it

but if you dont, you wont keep burning till eternity

[outer jungle]

i think incendiary ammo should be buffed to the level on bleeding , poison ammo .. 1 hit you catch fire 🔥 .. trait protection can be buffed to 3 hits .

keep in mind catching fire means chain reaction with oil 🛢️ on ground & nearby teammates

[pure quest]

well you've got dragonbreath for that

that usually does light people on fire in one hit

but the single incendiary still feel too useless to me

the immediate short burn (perhaps with reduced bullet damage again) would make it more worth it imo, without changing the 2-tap kills that both already have anyway

[outer jungle]

i don't get bad dragonbreath for poison 🤭

one thing i learned before starting this game is incendiary ammo is useless in PVP .

[pure quest]

ideally, i'd suggest to remove all special ammo anyway... but that ship has sailed im afraid

[pure quest]

its super situational, but mainly fun for memeing. 3 teammates with bornheim incendiaries jsut trying to panic burn people

rarely works. very fun if it does

or you have to camp on a spot next to a red barrel where you know people will walk next to

situations like these:
https://youtu.be/kRMpSqfHgbQ?t=54

[outer jungle]

all i see is FMJ , sludges meta .. coins for shotgun maybe ?

i still equip dragon breath and hope for a night map .. every shot is epic with the lightening even on console . still dying vs coin shot

[pure quest]

keep your range a bit more with dragonbreath

longer range, at least for the fire effect, then coins/buckshot

[lavish grove]

No one uses fire rounds for long but fire rounds do work for shotguns (mainly to annoy or cause panic) and compact weapons for long range fights where it takes 3+ shots to kill someone

Mainly winne users

But that was until fmj was added for it so idk

[pure quest]

yeah there's no real point into bringing it anymore

other than AI killing

small change like this would make it a bit more worthwhile to bring for pvp as well imo

while not being terribly unbalanced

[plush ledge]

@velvet ingot Now I'm curious what would be the purpose when you can't see the boss icon? Yeah you don't know the boss but so what?

[pure quest]

Just a minor surprise. People tend to avoid scrapbeak or spider if given a choice

but it wont affect gameplay that much i think

[plush ledge]

wait People dodge the easiest Boss in the game ? I get Spider because it's annoying due to it running away but Scrapbeak?

[crystal plume]

Just seems unnecessary to me, it would also make the current boss specific daily/weekly challenges even more painful

[pure quest]

scrapbeak is also annoying

butcher and assassin are the easier ones, spider is jst annoying

I mean, if anything, it fits the whole 'finding clues' theme as well. Part of the clue finding is that you find out which boss you're chasing 😄

[plush ledge]

All you need is a knife or knuckle knife and you get the first enrage for free without him hitting you once , what's annoying about him?

[pure quest]

the sound, concertina, running heavy knife (or axe), no supplies

[plush ledge]

don't hit him while he rages and there is almost no concertina at all and yeah playing heavy knife is on you

[pure quest]

i also dont bring a melee tool if im running romero hatchet for example

[plush ledge]

that's why I play knuckle knife

[pure quest]

still, im not avoiding bosses, if its scrapbeak and i lack a pokey thing, i'll just shoot it

but i get the 'hide bosses till you have clues' thing, i do feel its more themetically fitting, albeit it with a minor impact on the game

[velvet ingot]

Quality of life to be honest and unknown factor so you don't have people leaving bounties just because of boss or when you get there and your loadout may not work, improvise....why/how should we know?

[pure quest]

carrying a pitchfork from compound to compound because you know you'll be getting scrapbeak 😉

[plush ledge]

might be a elo thing , I've never heard someone say "oh not this boss let's switch the bounty "

I switched the bounty due to going for big instead of small or the Compound but that's it

[pure quest]

plenty times. You spawn in a new game, on the border between 2 roughly equal zones.
"scrapbeak or assassin?"
"assassin".

[velvet ingot]

LUL fair and more understandble thing for pitchfork...more of just quality of life but yes it does exist

[plush ledge]

Beside Spider all bosses are dead in 30-60 seconds , even faster when you bring a sticky

Butcher with stam shot is more like 15 seconds

[pure quest]

but this is seperate fromloadouts, or any other solution you're now mentioning.

Themetically it fits. You're hunting down clues to find a target.

Once you have all the clues, you find and know your target

[velvet ingot]

no i get killing the boss but why/how should be know, why shouldn't it be unknown and would be a refreshing item and fits wha....^ yeah that

[plush ledge]

I never thought about something like immersion in this game , for me a boss is just a push over AI and something needed to bring people together for PvP

[velvet ingot]

Concept originated with theme of discovering boss but added bonus of people swapping or loadouts not neccesarily worthwhile so now you have the decision while at boss to do it or swap....

[plush ledge]

I don't get the loadout thing , Butcher, Assassin , Spider nothing is needed find a Axe or worst case a Hammer on the Compound. Scrapbeak pull out your knife you need nothing else

[pure quest]

something needed to bring people together for PvP
the amount of people i encounter that just get boss and run without any pvp... 😂 (thats 5-6 star lobbies)

[velvet ingot]

lets say poison build and you show up at spider...little more challenging as now melee only...or fire build against butcher...just concepts

[plush ledge]

That's why I hunt down players as soon as I hear shots and ignore the boss , especially when it's the small bounty I don't care at all

[velvet ingot]

i mean i do that with as a 5/6 star too LUL

[pure quest]

and none of your gameplay is affected by the hiding of the boss till you got all 3 clues 😉 all it does ad some minor immersion

[plush ledge]

When you choose your loadout to fit bosses I highly doubt that you ever made it past 4

[velvet ingot]

kind of where the idea came from too...it changes nothing just QoL really

[gaunt lantern]

It's just not fun, I fail to see where this adds FUN

[pure quest]

eh, i run poison and fire ammo because i think its fun (and i got in 6star several times!). it helps a lot on bosses so i'll take that

[pure quest]

it doesnt take away fun either. But it might add FUN to others

[plush ledge]

Yeah but you put yourself at a disadvantage on purpose because you want something fresh, most people run poison or fire loadouts because they thing it's good

or need it to clear AI

[pure quest]

yeah its bollocks till some situational thing appears

still, worth it for shooting someone with a poison crossbow bolt and then following up with a derringer shot for the kill.

1 game in the... i dunno how many games i've run those

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**weapons on trial maps**

Since trial maps are the only way to look at compounds freely without any time limit, please place more weapons in the towers. this is important for looking at angles in details. It would help with accessebility a lot. when one is lucky it might take 4 towers to find a weapon, but often enough I have to walk at least half of the map to find a weapon. Make it less random. Maybe place even one in every tower.```

[vapid garden]

@timid iris I think a better alternative to this is having it use your currently equip hunter like going into training does.

[queen jungle]

@fresh hornet Please add a detailed description to your suggestion so others know what exactly it is you want to see in the game.

[alpine gust]

it was suspicious as the dolch aim was like nobody's business. but his team mate killed me by a shotgun. I followed him after i died as he is chasing leading the back with 2 bullets left in his pistol, and Viola, not only he chase like he knows they are not stopping, it was a headshot while walking.

name not revealed, I really don't know what is the reason why do it this way!

[urban ferry]

There's been a serious uptick in hackers in the Asia server, from once a fortnight/month to 1-2 a day now. The type that are one tap headshotting everyone in my party through walls.

[queen jungle]

I earn contracts to increase event but you just start the timer. That is fkd...I had to go to work (24 hour shift) while I lost my contact. Thanks, glad I supported your game buying DLC You should at least le me decide when to apply it

[wraith pecan]

@paper goblet@sharp veldt@high belfry@zealous citrus@crystal plume@queen jungle@ripe basalt@jaunty falcon Someone posted a tutorial on how to use the ignore walls bug. Now there are a lot of people using this bug (which is directly similar to cheat software). Does Crytek have the ability to fix this problem? How long will it take to fix it?

[queen jungle]

Please do not mass-mention community managers and mods.
The devs are aware of the issue, but there is currently no public ETA as to when a fix will be deployed. For the time being, please avoid further sharing any guides as to how to abuse the issue.

[wraith pecan]

Many of my friends have stopped playing hunt after the bug appeared. So have I. I am pessimistic about whether Crytek can quickly solve this, reconnect save hunter bug continues to be so long still not fixed. So I hope to get a clear answer. Not a vague answer like this.

I'm aiding a large number of managers because the bug is too serious and Crytek's problem solving skills are too weak. So I wanted to get Crytek management's attention instead of continuing to fix it for months like the previous bug.

[queen jungle]

As I mentioned above, the devs are well-aware of the issue. And I'm certain everyone at Crytek would like to see it fixed ASAP. But sometimes these things take a little time.

[wraith pecan]

OK, I'm not asking for time here. But I must make it clear that Crytek's bug handling is so slow that it doesn't even look like a commercial company, but rather like an open source product maintained by a single person.
In addition to the speed of bug fixing, including the stability of the server, and the frame rate of the game, etc., have made a large number of people extremely disappointed with Crytek.
I wish Crytek would adjust the ratio of resource usage between multiple projects. Don't let Crytek become the most crap game company in the eyes of gamers. (It already is in my eyes.)

[alpine gust]

yeah, just had another one. darn I worked so hard to up the stats.

[timid iris]

but maps are restricted in training. so actually no it isn't. What I'd really like to have is a free roam mode for the maps just without the PvP. So up to three players with their loadouts and PvE on the maps. so you can explore the maps together and use it as a testing sandbox. accessibility is problem in this game (like in most hc-games, because devs don't handle it well), which would be easy to fix that way. But I guess that's not gonna happen soon.

[urban ferry]

I had 2 in a row and we just decided to call it a day. The 1st time a guy just used Avto to wallbang us all down through the glass of Blanchett church within 10 seconds of us reaching the lair. The 2nd time, someone just stuck his barrel from the lair through the concrete wall of Iron Works and killed my teammate

I might just give this game a rest

[urban ferry]

Okay so turns out that both times we just died to the exploit. Nice.

[gaunt lantern]

Exploit has been in the game for years, but it's starting to get more attention now

[urban ferry]

That's kinda ridiculous that it still hasn't been fixed.

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I know we've had the suggestion of a roaming boss before and back when this was proposed, i suggested the idea of a Scarecrow/Jeepers Creepers type enemy that lurks in  the cornfields. would be cool to have dummy scarecrows as part of the encounter.```

[tribal wyvern]

@hollow peak
Buckshot at 20m? Picture or thats bullshit.

And twice? I call even bigger bullshit

[bronze quail]

In more than 2k hours I've been killed from 19m full hp only one time and it was a romero buckshot back on 1.1 days.
I can't really believe that a slate managed to beat that record
Twice
On the same match
On the same team

[hollow peak]

unlucky that hunt has no match history

but i was wrong my team mate died on 12 m

but still i died from 20

[bronze quail]

F12 is your friend

[hollow peak]

?

[tribal wyvern]

Unless you got screenshot from that, It's just pure bullshit.

Unless it was slugs & you just missed that.

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[queen jungle]

nice. getting killed throu a brick wall from a FragBomb ❤️ this game is flawless

[vocal blade]

can we discuss the feedbacks overall? I mean there is a lot of bitching, complaining going on around here, want some constructive feedback
think the developers will get annoyed one day and will stop giving a shit

[lethal oyster]

@vocal blade i don't really see how quad lemat is OP tho. Wouldn't it have been the Same story if the guy had, for example, 2 Caldwell rivals or even a crown & king?

Also i don't mean to be rude but how is 'dual lemat op because I got killed by it just now' more constructive than any other bitching?

[vagrant pike]

maybe if they made the servers decent, people would have some constructive criticism, since they'd be able to talk about how to make the game better, rather than having Crytek's incompetence shoved in their face every 5 seconds

think it speaks for itself

death sounds over 10s after

seeing how much of a buggy mess the game is, as well as how every update breaks something, and there are still major exploits in the game that have been here for years... they probably need to spend an entire year just fixing bugs, nevermind making new maps that are also buggy messes

[warm sable]

Seems like devs stopped giving a shit long ago. Judging by the amount of long lasting issues, glitches, balance issues and overall Stubborn direction they do what they want. Unfortunately the only way I see anything changing is if they put someone else as a lead. Meanwhile due to the game having so much potential, people do want to see improvements and so they are expressing themselves here. Calling it bitching looks weird. Or maybe you have some specific motive behind it, I dunno.

[vagrant pike]

In other words, they need a solid foundation to be able to do any building

Otherwise, anything they build on it is doomed to crumble

[fluid locust]

They stopped giving a shit when they started monetizing so aggressively

[desert slate]

@sterile willow yeah I think having maybe just a few, like 3 or so.
They could even just vary in pitch a little, so the Kid had a higher pitch one, maybe beast hunter had a lower one. Those two feel like easy examples.
Yeah custom voices for each would be a lot, but would also be rad…

[halcyon spade]

They stopped giving a shit. Period. The servers keep getting worse, the game keeps getting bogged down with more textures for the game to have to STREAM to you, I just cannot wrap my head around why anyone thinks "Add more skins" is going to make people happy. How about; and I know this is a foreign concept in this day and age- FIX. THE. GAME. FIRST.

[sterile willow]

Clearly not true

[halcyon spade]

Oh clearly

[sterile willow]

In what world would a game want to have shitty servers

[halcyon spade]

The only reason they keep trying to get the servers back online is so they can keep making money.

[sterile willow]

Yeah

and thats a pretty good reason lol

turns out you want to make money

[halcyon spade]

They don't care about the people playing the game, nor the people even working on the game

[sterile willow]

so they want to have good servers, so they can keep everyone online and playing

[halcyon spade]

I can only imagine how the devs feel about it.

[sterile willow]

I can tolerate just about every argument when it comes to hunt

but when people say the devs dont care I just get confused

[halcyon spade]

The devs do care?

[sterile willow]

Ive never seen such a committed and attentive dev team

[halcyon spade]

The devs aren't the ones monetizing the dumpster fire

It's whoever makes executive decisions at crytek

And whoever oversees what things are being prioritized in development

I doubt any of the devs want to add more content to a game that they literally have to bugfix constantly

I'm sure if it was up to them they would rework and remake a lot of the game's foundation so that it actually can continue to be used as a "service" for longer.

Honestly I just cannot fathom why they continue to add more skins and content to a game with such notoriously bad texture streaming flaws.

But god knows the only people that look at these chats can't actually do anything about it.

So this game is about to join my 400hr uninstall list.

[sterile willow]

alright

my server issues havent been good either

But I have faith in the devs

[halcyon spade]

Yeah well, good luck with that. The devs don't actually have a say, and I'd bet money on it. They get directed to make more content for a game that will crumble under the weight of it all.

[sterile willow]

they clearly have good intentions

and that goes a long way

so ill be patient

and youll just have to spend a couple minutes reinstalling once issues are resolved

in the meantime, Im going to try and enjoy the game despite its faults

[halcyon spade]

I literally can't enjoy it anymore. It doesn't even function properly.

[burnt mulch]

.. then don't play it.

[half stag]

y'know, maybe he complains a lot cuz he wants the game to succeed and it's not like, Idk, its literally the only game with this setting on the market that's actually decent, so its not like he can even go and play something else for the same fix.

[burnt mulch]

and maybe there's nothing to be gained by discussing his "feedback", which consists of "game's shit, greedy company, servers bad"

[half stag]

fair lol

[burnt mulch]

also, "stop making skins, fix game" which is unfathomably stupid.

[pseudo peak]

He literally just wanted someone to try to argue with him and didn’t know what to do with such casual responses lol kind of funny

[soft flame]

How to keep $$$ to run the service/game/servers going without turning it into P2P? DLC/Skins like PD2 did it. You buy the game once, 3 years of running and development maybe 4 years don’t remember when 0.100 was out. Yeah… if you still play you got your money’s worth 100x but it still costs company to host and staff the servers even with 0 further development.
Do i think monetization is getting a bit aggressive? Sure but nobody forces you to buy and it’s not p2w. While Devs need to be paid, server hosting has to be paid, maintenance/it/support staff all need to be paid. Or do you think money grows on trees or people are selfless saints that only live to provide you with what you want having no other goals or purposes in life?

There’s no magic bullet to keep the show going unless someone wants to become angel investor and flush money in to keep the show going we have to accept that monetization will happen in one or another way.

[halcyon spade]

That is precisely it, actually.

But everyone else just wants to see it as "game's shit, greedy company, servers bad" and continuously ignore anything I say about texture streaming and the issues it causes.

Any time I level actual issues this game has, the people who don't have the capacity to criticize anything they enjoy outside of getting frustrated with losing just act like snobby elitists.

[halcyon spade]

Also, you literally ignored the core part of my argument, which is continuously adding more content onto an incredibly unstable game, but you can just keep acting like my arguments have no merit.

👍

[halcyon spade]

I actually could care less about what other people have to say, but the discussion needs to be had about the issues that have been present from the beginning.

[burnt mulch]

which is "stop making skins, fix game"

1. Skins and content earns money directly. Fixing the game does not directly generate revenue. A company needs to balance both.
2. A lot of content is created by non-developers. I'll be sure to tell the artist in charge of making skins to start working on code.

[halcyon spade]

How about this, alright?

Stop acting like I literally don't have a point here, and trying to bring up the fact that the development of the game and the art team aren't doing the same job.

I am more than aware of how this works. My point is- If they want to keep dumping funds into making more assets and such for the game- great, but it should have a foundation that hasn't been stable since release.

Anyone who wants to boil my point down to "stop making skins, fix game" obviously doesn't care enough to see what adding more content of ANY KIND is doing to it.

Or you just have enough money to dump into a computer that could simulate god himself, either way, it doesn't really apply to the people who are having the issues I've stated previously.

[burnt mulch]

Whether or not you have a point is irrelevant. It's a matter of whether or not you have a purpose beyond complaining.

[halcyon spade]

And I'm the one just trying to argue?

That's golden.

[burnt mulch]

Is any of this new information or are you just frustrated and trying to get someone to argue with you?

[halcyon spade]

So you're gonna gatekeep the people that can criticize the game?

[burnt mulch]

Is any of this criticism constructive?

[halcyon spade]

I literally have never seen anyone mention the impact the addition of new content has on the game's overall performance both serverside and clientside simultaneously, but sure let's just sit here and pretend it's plastered all over the dev blogs and everything.

[burnt mulch]

then you're blind.

[halcyon spade]

Please, point me to them.

I would love to be wrong in this scenario, because maybe then I have a reason to have any kind of faith that the problems actually will be addressed. God forbid maybe even solved.

You want to sit here and act like I'm flame-baiting

But I just want to know why the game I love isn't being taken care of.

[burnt mulch]

kind of hard for me to do a live search of "new content, instability, etc etc" in terms of complaints by people in this channel and feedback (though if you really want to you can probably scroll up the feedback channel and bathe in all the tears you want.
and it's standard policy for a company not to disclose information like that outside of official communications.

so who are you complaining to? cuz it's certainly not crytek

if you just want to yell, that's what feedback is for

but who are you looking to have a discussion here with

[halcyon spade]

I literally am only looking to see if anyone else has the same issues, I got into a conversation because I saw a post someone made that I agreed with and it started a conversation.

[burnt mulch]

They stopped giving a shit. Period. The servers keep getting worse, the game keeps getting bogged down with more textures for the game to have to STREAM to you, I just cannot wrap my head around why anyone thinks "Add more skins" is going to make people happy. How about; and I know this is a foreign concept in this day and age- FIX. THE. GAME. FIRST.
yes. that's all you were doing.

[halcyon spade]

I wanted to see where some people within the community stood on the issues. I've already posted my gripes in the feedback channel.

[burnt mulch]

w/e. this is going nowhere fast.

[halcyon spade]

Yeah also look at the message I responded to?

[burnt mulch]

not exactly a conversation when you're just jerking off your hate boner in solidarity with another salty soul.

[halcyon spade]

Ah, right. We're salty because the game we spent money on actively continues to degrade.

I understand.

[burnt mulch]

sure. but was it constructive?

[halcyon spade]

You just gonna act like the rest of what I said doesn't exist, or just continue to harp on my initial comment?

[burnt mulch]

I'm harping on your initial comment because you mentioned how you got in the conversation to see if anyone else had the same issues.

glad you can discard talking points as soon as they become inconvenient.

nah

[halcyon spade]

Yeah, I did. I just got off the game after losing probably 5 or 6 hunters to things that shouldn't have even happened, so my anger was pretty fresh. The only reason I checked back was to see if anyone else is also seeing this downward spiral.

And was just met with people being salty that I called the company out for seeming pretty damn greedy.

But it's cool, just disregard my entire point because I was already clearly pretty distraught about my own situation.

[fluid locust]

Committed to milking every penny and that's about it lol

They were committed in the past before skins were part of the equation. But the monetization has been going on a down ward spiral

[faint sparrow]

Literally have to spend money now in order to complete an event

Atleast before they like had monetization that was mildly reasonable, just waiting for the battle pass now

[fluid locust]

Pretty much

1k officer skin, 1k choke bomb skin

Laughable

And the mechanic of getting more points with paid dlc legendaries

Sad

[faint sparrow]

Yeah before even if you spent money it was atleast 5$ for a character skin and items

Now it's 10$ for a skin

[fluid locust]

Yea and the other items were usually good quality. Now the only thing in the hunter dlcs worth buying is the hunter. And the other stuff is kinda shit

[faint sparrow]

Honestly kind of sad what happened to the game. Finally got a bunch of new players but instead of like continuing with good updates they switched to just monetization

Like literally feel as if in their heads they just thought "oh hey we finally have a good player base, guess the game doesn't need updates other than new skins"

[fluid locust]

Not to mention the events being very recycled and nothing unique. Just grind for the sake of grind with the fear of missing out being the only driving reason to participate

[faint sparrow]

Worse part is that now it doesn't even come with a character

Latest event is a shit load of points for some items, and shitty gun skins

[frosty garnet]

@sterile willow, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

Add him as a legendary skin```Attachments:
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[tawny meadow]

@fresh hornet deleted your suggestion since it was a little lacking of explanation.

(the first one, the second one is a full explanation and that's ok)

@desert nest deleted your suggestion since it's a bug report for a known bug.

[desert nest]

Alright, no worries

[vague patio]

no?! you can complete the event normally

and they also added a free trait to boost points

[tawny meadow]

I finished the event yesterday. 0 money spent, no rush, no sweat

Slow and steady

Just because someone can't finish it on day 1, it doesn't mean you need money to complete it

[vague patio]

i mean, for the average job and not excessively good player it is hard

[tawny meadow]

Well, i put myself in that category

[vague patio]

even if true, there are people who did that

[tawny meadow]

Yes, rushing it was totally possible too

[vague patio]

i think there are points to critizes, regarding monetization, especially with the event. but just spitting bullshit and accusing devs of "milking" the player base is simply destructive

on many levels

[faint sparrow]

I meant for the challenge it posts

If which you could spend 2k bb you farmed on a choke bomb and pistol skin

Or probably in their mind, buy the bb

[burnt mulch]

the.. challenge?

you consider farming the bloodbonds for the skins part of the event?

[vague patio]

i mean, with the gold cash register bug it was doable

but fair point, the ardent prize is bad imo too

[vagrant pike]

servers are shit, once more

literally unplayable

here's some feedback: fix the backend

come on, really?

[vague patio]

i think we got it

[frigid folio]

@narrow narwhal there is plenty of time to get to the bounty compound while it's banishing? You can cross the entire map in the time it takes for a bounty to banish. Considering that hunt is technically an objective based game (the bounty) we shouldn't really be punishing players for playing the objective because others are taking their merry old time to get there or are sitting 200m away holding an angle on a single window. Like sure there is nothing more depressing than seeing a bounty run off while the rest of the server was fighting somewhere else, but nothing was stopping your team from rotating out and around to fight at the objective

[vague patio]

there are already lots of ways to block the banishing team, if they run and get out, its your mistake

[vagrant pike]

agreed. either exfil camp properly, or get laughed at as they either kill ya or leave and ya only get wasted time

[frigid folio]

^^ and having been a bounty team that's sat there and waited out the banish and then a little longer as well. There is nothing more boring so you just say "eh fuk it, onto the next if nobody wants to fight over bounty" the bounty team isn't always just running from fights. It's a huge tactical disadvantage to go looking for people you only know the rough direction of on the map but meanwhile they know your EXACT location because it's shown on the map

[vagrant pike]

unless we're talking about the 6 star aim gods who use DSB with FMJ waller spam to wipe out everyone nearby

and since they turn off skill-based matchmaking, not hard to run into them if ya ever make the mistake of turning it off

[bronze quail]

"normal" 6 stars players are forced to play without skillbased

I'm 6 stars and my friends too, but we are not tryharders, we just rush and shot. For us playing with sbmm on is a pain in the ass, we can only get matches full of tryharders, KD farmers and idiots who plays like stars are a rank and camp forever only to save their stupid star and KD

The only way to get fun matches is by turning sbmm off

[outer jungle]

@narrow narwhal isn't part of the fun to be in the run or chasing other teams ?

i think the game presented that on high level immersion . its basically hunting

[rocky orchid]

anyone knows what will be in todays "event gameplay live stream"? Will they just continue to play trio and do like there arent any issues right now or will they actually talk about the massive bug fest/server issue/exploits using?!
i dont wanna see a "Beedyboy" talking about what coming "soon, soon, soon" all the time to be honest

[normal horizon]

it's a gameplay stream

so there will be gameplay

[rocky orchid]

ok.. maybe that should be canceled for some community livestream to discuss about some things instead? i don't know if a gameplay stream is really a good idea to be honest right now

the whole community is ready to pull out torches and pitchforks right now, if i read all the comments right now at reddit and here

[normal horizon]

I don't have any say in it, I am just letting you know since you asked

[rocky orchid]

and i appreciate your time and answer nixa 😉

[hoary mortar]

I'm curious why people think my suggestion for a soldier grunt is a bad idea. It should be made in a way that you'd have to be pretty careless to set it off, and hearing a shot in a compound is about as big of a deal as setting off dogs and shooting the lantern

[pliant wren]

Doesn't seem like a bad idea, just seems a little unnecessary. Other suggestions of grunts that drop ammo have been upvoted alot, so I'm guessing people either think a soldier grunt should try to shoot you, or they don't think the grunt should be able to shoot at all.

[tawny meadow]

@pliant wren about your prestige suggestion: the dev said in a recent livestream that the prestige system is being looked at and will be reworked 🙂

[pliant wren]

Oh I know, I just figured I would give a suggestion people could vote on so it might be considered in that rework.

[tawny meadow]

oh ok! Nice, every idea is welcome!

[hot vigil]

Not an all bad idea, but I can see some concerns, but I will pre-face, people here rarely likes things that adds depths or complicate plays. Hence most buffs addition of power is always welcomed and nerfs/balance/enemies that requires to change play patterns is generally downvoted. Personally I think such notion is silly, but I digress.
My main concern with your suggestion is:

• I be worried about the amount of damage a "shot" would deal, I think I (and most people) see the worst possible scenario of getting shot for 50-75 hp, which is really scary and I would gauge would be more a "feel bad" scenario than an interesting one. Even low damage grunts can be a menace in a fire fight.
• I personally dislike another venue for ammo collecting, even think there might be a little too much of that in the game already, it would drastically change the power dynamic of low-ammo weapons.

[hoary mortar]

I actually said in my suggestion the grunts would shoot the ground only and deal exclusively melee damage to players, just like normal grunts. The second point is fair, another opportunity to get ammo might be a bit too much

[pure quest]

I'd change the ammo box on it, maybe a 'chance to drop a small package of either compact/medium/shotgun/long ammo' with only one use would be better than a small ammo box (which gives a lot of ammo).
I've upvoted simply because i want more AI variations, although the current AI setup is already quite terrible imo. Every single entrance is either guarded by special AI (immolater/armoureds) or (several) soundtraps. Adding even more soundtraps doesn't really appeal to me. However, I would find it fun if you'd set an ammo-grunt on fire and the ammo would explode like the small chaos bolt.

[hoary mortar]

Scratching the ammo box out of the design and adding the option of making the grunt a possible walking chaos bomb sounds nice as well

[hot vigil]

My bad, I read that the shooting of the player could only happen on the second attack.
But yeah, another thing the more layers a suggestion have, even if one thing is disliked amount 10 suggestions, it will more likely get downvoted due to players not wanting to risk that 1 thing they deemed bad getting included.

[pure quest]

some people will downvote regardless

[hot vigil]

But once again, my bad for misreading the first part 🙂
And I think a balance is instead of an ammo box he could drop a tool box, being an opposite to the doctor.

[hot vigil]

well, we can't account for twats :b

[pure quest]

sadly 😄

[hoary mortar]

Could it be interpreted that the player would get shot? I might have to take a second look, I think I wrote that the grunt would shoot the ground only after some delay on aggro, giving the player some time to react and kill him before triggering the gunshot

[pure quest]

you wrote it fine imo

[hoary mortar]

initially I was thinking the grunt would melee attack with the gun but that would create confusion about whether it would be a shot or similar to players' heavy melee, could have been a different damage type if the grunt would carry a bayonet weapon etc.

[pure quest]

clearly says its shooting at the ground

[hoary mortar]

I'd just be happy if there was some form of a "louder" audio trap that would also be hard to distinguish from player-made sounds, the form and balancing doesn't matter that much to me as long as it would be well-balanced

[pure quest]

but what if you sit below him? headshot through the wooden floor by a grunt if you happen to be below your teammate 😄

[hoary mortar]

you'd have to be really unlucky about that lol

[hot vigil]

Naw, just me who is like, really dumb.

[pure quest]

Not speaking out for most ofc, but i do think most ppl will downvote it because in general people are fed up with the amount of special AI and soundtraps at every corner

I'd like non-loud traps though, like foxes/badgers going around, but once hunters have passed, they've run into their den/hole. So you can see hunters have walked by (foxes are missing/den entrance closed off), but no noise was made.

[hoary mortar]

Personally I don't mind that at all, it rewards stealth, speed, skill in dealing with the AI silently and a corresponding loadout to go with it - most of the time I carry throwing weapons or a silencer if I want to leave a low sound footprint on my way to the boss/enemy players

[little carbon]

There is not a lot more they could say at the moment. Whenever issues are popping up they are looking into it and resolving it actually relatively quickly.
As someone who has worked with server providers before I can say that they often take a good chunk of time to respond.

And as far as I am concerned the upcoming changes that were announced satisfy the demands the community has for more transparency for upcoming features and they also address some long standing issues (ie Camping and prestige)

[pure quest]

which is an issue most people have. You dont want to change your loadout jsut for the PvE aspect for a mainly pvp focused game. It's getting to the point the AI is so numerous it doesnt matter. There's quite often literally 1 entrance without soundtraps at some smaller compounds

you dont need skill to shoot a zombie with a silenced nagant. It's starting to turn from skill to tedious

[hot vigil]

Its a hard line to balance, issue is that at some point it might be too cramped with AIs. Personally I would love 5-6 more AI types, so at every round the game can take a handful of them and remix it into the match.

[pure quest]

I'd love them to be more dangerous, but less numerous

like the hives. they've got their fixed spawnlocations. Turn it into a change to spawn, or spawn some regulars instead for once

[hoary mortar]

Weird, I consider Hunt a PvPvE game, equal parts P and E, each with their own challenge - while the E is easier, it can bend you over on the P part

[pure quest]

nah, the E part is there just to facilitate the P part and provide a dynamic to set this game apart from other BR games

:d

[hot vigil]

That could be a solution too. Also the issue with an enemy that can make a gun shot, is that it is really punishing and sometimes you can just be unfortunate to trigger a chain of AI enemies, so some people might see it as a "oh fuck off game" scenario. Again, is it fair? Ofc, you have every opportunity to slow down and asses the situation, but players don't care about fair games, but perceived fairness.

[pure quest]

Getting fucked by a pack of dogs while in a firefight is a sure way to go down 😄

but with the aggro-ranges and intelligence, it doesnt feel fair either

dogs get alerted but run at you instead of wahtever set them of, simply because you're closer but not even in the same direction

[hot vigil]

Issue with dogs is that they never go towards sound, but nearest target.

[hoary mortar]

I dunno, I think people would be unhappier about stronger AI than about more AI types, because if you get unlucky with stronger AI, you get really unlucky - people already get mad at hellhounds and immolators being in the game