feedback-discussion

[keen violet]

then thats a whole nother problem.... though

still back to the topic

[digital nacelle]

as it is I agree it needs a buff, but it certainly isn’t the worst in every way possible

[keen violet]

the thing that gets me though. is.
why does it lay were it does......

[digital nacelle]

it’s supposed to be the starter pistol

personally I prefer it to scottfield or bornheim anyway tbh

[keen violet]

shouldnt a start pistol be more "forgiving" than the others?

but that i feel fits more the style of
lemat "more shots in chamber"
or
convo "better accuracy and higher RPM"

and it being the "best when fanning"
doesnt help when talking about "starter pistol" cause how the hell would starters even know that. hell i have 300hrs. and only now i even found out fanning have its own stats

[keen violet]

borheim. is sadly a travesty of a pistol..
3 fuking shots...

[digital nacelle]

yep lol

[keen violet]

and for 200.. even that too

nagant could have less sway but more recoil maybe in comparison to the precision nagant
(also doesnt the precision nagant got 63 rpm. which even if it HAD the same sway and recoil as the nagant would still make it a worth pick
boasting wild 23rpm MORE than the base nagant)

for 5 dollas

[digital nacelle]

not really

it’s a 2 slot with terrible range

it has to be good in every other way

[keen violet]

still the base nagant could at least have as much "handling" as the conv... which is 1 slot. too

[worthy mauve]

Its purpose is ammo count for the carbine and to unlock the silent pistol 😬

[keen violet]

having a weapon ust to "unlock" others is needless to say a bit stupid
and having it as ammo count as stated before

would be the same as having a slot for a ammobox instead of a gun

[digital nacelle]

all it needs is to fire faster

I’d say 48 rpm

[keen violet]

honestly anything..

but ye 48rpm would sell me on it

for damn sure

[worthy mauve]

It seems like you either throw HV on it or poison on the silent. It's a lackluster one

[digital nacelle]

I love the sights and the ammo pool

it’s one of my favorite sidearms with crossbow

click lots of heads

[keen violet]

ye i was about to say that imo crossbow puts most sides to shame FOR me personally

but the sights are .. decent. (in the end its personal opinion and thus i dont think its fair to use as balance point)

[digital nacelle]

hmph

mayyybe

[keen violet]

its like saying well. we should buff the veterlli cause i despise its sights..

convo sights IMO are also pretty damn amazing.

only sights i start to dislike in this game are when it coes to rifles

especifically the aperture sights

alll the rest of the sights are serviceable

and thus id neglect it as balance points

ammo pool is "coo" but not for the weapon itself USUALLY peope like big ammo pools cause it gives more buffer for other guns
coff coff winfield with HV

[digital nacelle]

I will throw hands over this statement

but fair enough

[keen violet]

see that was the whole point of mentioning it

[digital nacelle]

I’d say it’s even more important if you’re not combining ammo pools

since that’s all

for example officer has 7/14 and it runs out quick

[keen violet]

whens the last time you runned out of compact ammo in your convo revolver though?

[keen violet]

yes officer .. bordheim "poor thing"... dolch all eat through ammo realllll quick

[digital nacelle]

yesterday, and I had four of them

[keen violet]

now the lemat (unles we are talking shotgun shells)
the conv
the nagant
all have big enough ammo pools as is..

[digital nacelle]

to be fair I was shooting out every door I saw

so

[keen violet]

i mean.. yes. but at that point. nagants wouldnt really solve the issue hehehehehehe

ps: i'm also running a lot of duallies. turns out you can get decent kills up to 50m. and i now wonder. why i ever tried to learn the winfield [when i could just stick with duallies and my spurks]

[digital nacelle]

he’s learning

every loadout without a pair of pistols is bad

[keen violet]

exactly
whats better than 1 fanning revolver? or one semi auto revolver?

TWO OF THEM of course..

[digital nacelle]

dolch pair is really good

66% handling

but no one uses it since it’s so expensive and no fmj

[keen violet]

but in this regard again. nagant ends up behind

sure they now have (2 extra shots in advantage to the conv)
BUT HO HO HO
no FMJ
no shotguns lemat (aka pistols with handcannon)
and still worst spread

nagant seems to excell in only ONE thing
and its fanning.

and when comes to that.. it STILL... isnt the best of all [falling behind in precision compared to conv, and ammo in cilinder compared to lemat]

[digital nacelle]

I mean its specialty is HV

not many revolvers have hv

I agree it needs a buff but so do both medium ammo pistols

[keen violet]

maybe.. cause they dont need it much...
sure 490mv. is PRETTY DAMN IMPRESSIVE...

but whats theuse of it.. in a compact ammo with a handling worst than the dolch pair "a you mentioned 66" while nagant have 63%

[digital nacelle]

that’s really good handling

[keen violet]

and uppercut already have 410m

[digital nacelle]

66% is great

conversions only 60%

[digital nacelle]

uppercut is also $275

come on now

[keen violet]

if you have 2 of them you mean?

[digital nacelle]

if you compare pretty much anything to uppercut it falls short

[digital nacelle]

yes

or was single nagant 63

[keen violet]

that the catch thoug...

a SINGLE nagant have 63%

[digital nacelle]

oops

fair enough lol

point made

[keen violet]

the vandal have 71
the compact spring striker have 66

[digital nacelle]

springfield compact striker is ass tho

so

not a fair comparison

[keen violet]

EXACTLY!

its fucking ASS.. and have a better handling than nagant

lol

[digital nacelle]

even with more handling I’d way rather have the nagant

springfield compact has a lot of sway and only one shot and bad dropoff and a lot of other things

[keen violet]

"BUT.. it still doesnt have it"
and thats the thing

[digital nacelle]

yeah nagant doesn’t have omega sway

and more than one shot

still shit dropoff tho

preaching to the choir though, nagants need help I agree just they’re not as useless as you suggest

[keen violet]

unironically i think the drop off is worst than the spring strik.... which is sad

[keen violet]

i mean sure they are still viable.. unlike some poor springfield compact striker....

but the thing is daring when the stats even compared to the spring. is worst..

[digital nacelle]

well duh springfield is medium ammo

and does like 50% more damage

that makes sense

also, we’re comparing a two slot to a one slot

[keen violet]

ye good point lets go back to nagant 1 slot revolvers..

and it goes back to still being worst.. which it doesnt deserve

[digital nacelle]

cough bornheim cough

gimme nagant over bornie any day

[keen violet]

and that costs 200..

[keen violet]

same.. 3 shots..
200 dollars

just no

[digital nacelle]

bornie ass

[keen violet]

i heard bornie match is decent
AT SOME range it can 2 hit

[digital nacelle]

bornie match is REEEALLY good

[keen violet]

i mean.. at least.. incendy ammo makes sense with it since it doesnt kill in 2 shots

[digital nacelle]

it can two tap lightning quick up to 25m iirc

but it also has very low recoil and great sights compared to standard bornheim

it’s a great headclicker

[keen violet]

its got something going for it
VERY VERY niche? yep but i mean if you have the money and skill it goes

[digital nacelle]

no it’s really good

esp with dual nagants and hv on everything

[keen violet]

esp?

[digital nacelle]

especially

[keen violet]

imo
bordheim should go to the cost of old officer

i think its worst than it (although having more spammy capabilities) but you need 50% of its mag to land (thats if you have bullet grubber and thus one in the chamber

the base one not the match one

thats good as is

especially if you do as mentioned HV for days

[digital nacelle]

needs price cut to $99 and double ammo reserves

also removal of semi auto sway nerf

unlike dolch & crown it doesn’t need that

[keen violet]

idk about THAT part. but sure needs to cost 100 or under.. imo

we could start by that and see how it goes.

if it was the same price as officer. i think id still pick officer in fact..

[grizzled mural]

or maybe, it could just be removed from the game 😄

[digital nacelle]

nah it would be semi decent with the changes I listed

literally only good if you spam it but you can’t cuz omega sway

[keen violet]

i think it would. for real

[digital nacelle]

wow wee

good when: spammed
if u spam u don’t hit anything

[grizzled mural]

semi-auto = out of place, with people asking for spam nerfs I'm surprised there's people asking for bornhiem buff

[digital nacelle]

bornheim is shit lol

[keen violet]

i mean. its 4 shots over 50m...

[digital nacelle]

needs a lot of buffin’

[keen violet]

with a 5 shots mag

if you spam the whole thing...

it still might not kill if 2 of the shots lands in arm lol

[digital nacelle]

lower mag size than officer

but can’t two tap

[keen violet]

^

and if you make it dual wield. you might stil miss the bigger side of the barn LUL

imo. dual wield should be removed ?
100

but its not and so ithink guns should be balanced taking in account the other existing ones

[digital nacelle]

no

let me keep my quad con fmj

[keen violet]

i mean i started using that just cause if i dont
others will

and unlike mosin dolch

i can buy 2 conv+fmj

lol

but i still dislike its place in game

same with the levering swift
(andits un ending barrage of fire...)

[digital nacelle]

no

it’s good

balanced

very balanced

don’t a-toucha my dual wield

[grizzled mural]

no need to touch dual wield stats, just remove crosshair

[keen violet]

ACTUALLY BRILLIANT!!!

[digital nacelle]

idk how that makes a difference lol

I never focus on crosshair with them

just aim in the middle

[grizzled mural]

say that but try hip firing with no hud /shrug

[keen violet]

hunts crosshair position always throws me off when pinging stuff without crosshairs

[grizzled mural]

you're gonna spend your first couple bullets figuring out where the bullets are going, at least until you're highly practiced with them, and at that point who cares if they're powerful

[keen violet]

just cause thatsthe catch
it AINT the middle

[digital nacelle]

as a certified dual wield professional I have no such weakness

I mean I’ve literally tried no hud before

doesn’t really affect muh dual wield

[grizzled mural]

as a dual wield professional I have no problem with you kicking my butt, just raise the skill floor a bit

[digital nacelle]

other hipfiring is annoying tho

[digital nacelle]

fair point

[queen jungle]

@digital nacelle if you mute all the channels and then hide muted channels, it automatically hides the category

[digital nacelle]

damn, didn't know that, thanks. really helpful

[queen jungle]

no problem sir

[grizzled mural]

Community seems salty 0.o no wonder the devs don't come around here 😄

Poor bastards work so hard, only to get abused and pulled in 18 directions. My experience is that, they probably want to fix every technical issue and work at the speed of thought, but they have to negotiate the priority of these things with the suits, and you can't win every negotiation.

[keen violet]

and i feel lke thats why we need to speak up
so they got something to show the suits

the devs are sure good and the passion the put in the game shows undoubtely

but the suits at crytek are one of the worst ive ever seen

this game is having server problems for more than 5 years

[grizzled mural]

the suits only speak $$$, dashboard, and powerpoint

there's nothing the community can do, this discord is here to make us FEEL heard

[keen violet]

and thats what makes me fucking pissed about it. and thus why we need to speak up
cause if we dont EVEN speak here. then devs wont have a thing to show to the suits in matters of discontent

[grizzled mural]

w/e they are doing, its working, player count is going up, dollars are going up

why would they stop

[keen violet]

exactly and thus why i say
we need to speak up here.

since thats the only placce theres a "SLIGHT" chance devs can gather evidences and thoughts to show their bosses

[grizzled mural]

if they made a change and saw a significant drop in players, that's pretty much the only thing they'd respect

if the graphs are going up, the suits are happy

[keen violet]

thing is
if it drops
discord is the thing that they are going to use to tell "what change specifically is making it drop"

[grizzled mural]

nah, I swear to god even if they weren't sure because they released a ton of changes all together, they'd just be scratching their chins, not reading discord

every community, games or otherwise, is filled with a bunch of passionate people yelling back and forth -- that engagement is good for the game, but the content of that engagement is unimportant, just the quantity

people complain about EVERYTHING, in both directions, how could the developers ever glean meaningful insight from that

they spend all their time thinking about the game, its their job, they have their own ideas

[keen violet]

man idk you but i work in a hospital
if theres a complain.. it gets to the heads. no matter how fucking stupid that thing is...

so i'm pretty confident samehappens here in varying degrees at least

[atomic cipher]

@ruby harbor hehe, "Huuge who? " - dev team

[scenic oar]

they should make it allow you to check kill view after your partner got away. and they are not allow us to see damage done is like they are covering something to me.

[outer wedge]

For the love of Hunt, please reduce the overall AI, its just too much, whats up with double spawn Hives and Immolator every corner... its like we are playing The Walking Dead. !

[ripe basalt]

@bitter jacinth Your post in #game-ideas is being deleted for being low-effort. Please repost your idea with more detail/context regarding the description of your idea, thanks.

[unborn dagger]

Nope

Some people practically don't want PVE in this game which is part of the game. If you're getting killed by pve a lot of the time you really need to be more aware of your surroundings and change up your tactics.

[glass fable]

I explain it earlier this morning what happens. Got a night game, head for the extract right beside us. As we arrive the boat horn goes of, i aim down and see 2 players looking at us and boom they leave the map. me and my friend laugh and we go to the extract too... 10 sec by the end of our time the boat horn goes of too and we see 2 others players coming for the boat, i scope to looked at them and they do the same but don't shoot and let us leave. They where probably leaving too.. That is 3 teams of duos inside 1min of the start of the game heading for the extract.... i think it says a lots.

[spare roost]

@elfin rapids foldable stock for non-single shot weapons is a great alternate concept for weapon modes. with pros and cons for being in both forms being nice.
good suggestion.

@chilly scaffold this was mentioned in an official outdated roadmap. ive not seen them mention the implementation recently.

[elfin rapids]

thx senpai

[ruby magnet]

Could someone explain to me why people consider hunt showdown a competitive shooter?
Yes it was built with engaging and accurate gunplay in mind, but as far as I remember it was never intended to become soo competitive go be an e-sport.

[cerulean wraith]

Hunt can never be a true esport the way it is now

There is too much random chance in spawn, clue locations, boss types etc

[ruby magnet]

Bigger question is... do we really want to. I think if we do then a lot of the cowboy fantasy setting would be lost for the sake of it.

What would specify a hard-core shooter from a competitive shooter though?

[cerulean wraith]

There is something about esports games that fosters grassroots esports creation. You can't force an esport from top down

If Hunt hasn't evolved an esport in 5 years it probably never will, and it's financially suicidal to try to force one

Honestly neither do I

It'd be cool if we had one but I don't want the game changed for a competitive league that doesn't exist and will almost assuredly fail

Ye

[ruby magnet]

the reason I ask this is because I read so many people hammering on the fact that dualies, levering, fanning is just a spam to win type of deal. While those traits were meant to give a close range combat option to an otherwise mid/long range weapon

dual wielding being the obvious exception here of course.

[unborn dagger]

I would never want Hunt to be a competitive shooter for the sake of esports but that doesn't mean I want every part of the game to be random like fanning, levering, not being able to choose contracts or the time of day.

[cerulean wraith]

I think contract randomness is important because it prevents metagaming the boss. Know the bounty is a butcher? Kill him in 1s flat with 2 stickies. Stuff like that

Though I wouldn't be averse to seeing a rotation of specific contracts, maybe with limited rewards or some other factor in play. I'd probably always select the random contract though

As for time of day, I think it should also be random, but I wouldn't mind seperate day only and "adverse conditions" (day/night/fog in original % chances) contracts

Again, with day only having lower rewards because easier

Not really

Fanning is more effective if you tap it rather than full on spam a lot of the time

It's useless on the Uppercut unless you tap it

Basically. Playing a corner will usually provided better results but it will make your play slower and less agressive

They have their place but I can do without most of the time

That being said, chain fanning is pretty bad in my experience

And levering is flat out superior

[unborn dagger]

Contract randomness sucks ass cause you never get to prepare for anything. That's why people leave night and fog matches cause they don't know what time of day it will be. Butcher, Scrapbeak, and Spider die to 2 stickies so I don't understand that point at all. Only boss that can't be stuck is the assassin and even then you can still kill him quickly with a poison bomb since he loves to start backstabbing you.

[steady vapor]

@lethal silo miner with pickaxe skin ⛏️ ⚒️

[unborn dagger]

If we can't know what the boss is let us know what time of day it will be. That's more important than having to fight the boss.

[cerulean wraith]

There were a number of suggestions for that

[cerulean wraith]

When I asked on FB I saw someone recommend a cycle system

With the game switching from generating day games to night games every 3 hours or so, with dawn/dusk occuring near the cutoff time

And of course always letting the players know which part of the cycle they're in

I think this is a workable solution but I prefer being forced to adapt on the fly, both with bosses and time of day

Not saying your preference is invalid, just that mine is different

Which is why I could absolutely see q day only contract type or a known target rotation

[steady prism]

You see thats where you are wrong. Ofc you CAN be killed by random spam, when someone starts fanning/levering, but its not some cheap trick that makes you a god, even though you are a bad player.

1. You still have to hit. Just because there is some RNG in way doesnt mean you dont have to aim your crosshair at the enemy

2. You have to be skilled in using that trait. Just like neon said, you cant just bash the button until your target dies. You have to get close enough, without giving your enemy clear shot on you, before you reach effective distance. Then you have to bait the enemy to miss his shot / tank the round and wait for aimpunch to settle. And at last, you have to shoot correct amount of rounds, before actual RNG kicks in and your chances get too low. Then you have to either disengage or try your luck by pushing even closer to negate the inacuraccy or switch to melee and mace your target.

Its not easy to pull out perfect, 100% fanning and it will ALWAYS be inferior to shotgun, that is much easier to use and provides safer cqb option, but thats exactly why i love fanning.

Levering is much more versatile, since you can potentially use it up to 40 or so meters, but its not exactly strong weapon for cqb, there are much better alternatives...

[cerulean wraith]

Pretty much yeah

Although I'd say levering is pretty strong in cqb, fanning is stronger point-blank.

I think it's okay as it is now

[midnight plume]

ngl if you had a choice in which medkit you take (the current one or the 5 charge 25 hp one) that'd be cool

[main kayak]

imagine leaving fog and night maps

[solar monolith]

@queen jungle I’m not calling it game breaking or even a problem, I just think it’s kind of dumb. And a bit silly

[cerulean wraith]

I know, right?

[plush ledge]

@sudden wing you can already tell the direction of the killer. The feet point in the direction also the reason why silencers aren't that good after the first kill the enemy team has direction and distance aka your position

[sudden wing]

Thx. i have never been sure about this considering the aukward way hunters are falling

[vague patio]

@queen jungle said it once before, the current dual firerate should be a trait

Second suggestion id prefer elliptical crosshair instead of two

[unborn smelt]

It's not a cheap trick making you a god by any means - But it's usually also nowhere as skillful as you make it out to be.

1. Yes you have to hit, and for that the hipfire crosshair needs to be at least partially on target, but seing as it's a hipfireing pistol not a shotgun the spread can hit anywhere in the crosshair increasing RNG aspects in both directions, you can fail more easily if aimed well but you can also still kill if not centered good.

2. You'd need to be skilled to use the trait if it were you're only/primary means of attack (leke 2 single pistols with fanning or fanning pistol+melee), but usually it isn't. It's most often a fallback option for when an ememy needs to push you through what you describe, because he has a CQC focused Primary, while all you do is try and tag him with the Rifle and swapp to fanning if he's too close, completely circumventing the skill aspect you describe. And compact ammo works perfectly fine for spray and pray fanning and medium ammo to a degree, the only ones where you need trigger control are medium ammo on longer ranges or the uppercut.

And that's also why shotguns are IMO inferior to fanning as a whole package, because with fanning you get an easy tool to make any loadout, for example rifle + pistol very much CQC capable. Not necessarily better than a shotgun but it can compete. With a shotgun you severely limit the range of your laodout as a whole, also doue to the very limited selection of ranged and even more limited good ranged secondaries.

[solar monolith]

Shotguns are currently hilariously bad compared to what you can get. Between duel wielding and fanning, there isn’t a point to even running one as a secondary weapon. It’s a shame really. Shotguns can be great fun.

[unborn smelt]

Shotguns do have their place

they are generally also the best short ranged option, as nomatter how good the RoF you don't beat a OHK

But the very small selection of ranged secondaries, even smaller good ranged secondaries is a bit of an issue for shotgun laodouts

especially because ranged focused weapons have a lot of very good CQC options available already, meaning you get overall way more balanced rifle + CQC secondary loadouts that ranged capable shotgun loadouts

[steady prism]

I mean yes and no

Its true that people use fanning as their second option just like you said and yes pistol + fanning is much more universal than shotgun

[pseudo shadow]

I agree 100%

Hunt is a game with many variables, and i dont like to go all in with shotguns.
Yes, it works wonders in a few cases, but you cant guarantee that those situations will happen. And there is nothing good you can do to also be a threat at medium, let alone long ranges.

[steady prism]

But i dont agree that its easy to fan effectively

Levering quite is, since you have quite slow RoF compared to fanning, so you just blast as fast as possible...

But fanning is a bit hard to do correctly.... People tend to miss all of their shots when they use fanning offensively

[unborn smelt]

I mean my experience is that fanning is very reliable with compact for spray and pray if you aim the crosshair well

And playing against others we don't know if they fail to kill because fanning is unreliable or because they aimed bad

[steady prism]

The issue here is that the crosshair is very susceptible to movement... If you crouch and dont move its very reliable but when you re moving it goes awfully wide

[unborn smelt]

even in movement its good

[steady prism]

And another thing is that after second shot it also gets pretty wide so firing in short bursts is usually better idea

[unborn smelt]

sure it's better if crouched or standing but the very high RoF and general high precision for fanning does make quick work of many enemies

[steady prism]

Tested with caldwell conversion you can hit up to 30m this way

[unborn smelt]

Yes of tapfiring, crouching etc is ofc better - but even without it's good enough

a shotgun is realistically only a threat up to 12-15m

no need to be reliable at 30

[steady prism]

I mean for shorter distances ofc... But on 15m you are in shotgun deadzone so gotta be careful

And shotgun almost always beats fanning on less than 10m

[unborn smelt]

true - but you do normally also have a primary available yourself

[steady prism]

Ofc IF there is a shotgun against you... If its not then fanning rules

[unborn smelt]

on top of the regular fire of the pistol you aim to fan with

[steady prism]

That is also true

[unborn smelt]

that's what in general fanning is for

[steady prism]

I personally love fanning but imo its inferior to other options

[unborn smelt]

if we were talking about 2 single pistols with fanning (very fun laodout btw) i 100% agree with you

[steady prism]

Simply because its not readily available

[steady prism]

Thats so much fun

[unborn smelt]

because then you suffer the same shortcomings of all CQC loadouts + have to fear shotguns if too close

[steady prism]

Ye

[unborn smelt]

But the typical long rifle + pistol + fanning, isn't forced into the skillful pushing nor into making fanning work on long range

as that's what the rest covers

[steady prism]

Ye that is true

[frosty garnet]

@stuck sigil, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

Implement an opportunity for earning money with Hunt. Could be linked to cryptocurrencies, or u could organize tournaments, in which every player can take part. Would be great to make a job out of my passion ❤️```

[cerulean wraith]

@stuck sigil miss me with that shit, cryptobro

We wanna play games for fun, not as an investment/job

[stuck sigil]

Bro i just thought it would be nice if we had like tournaments or smth like that. My secons thought was them crypto, because it could help growing the number of players, but i didn‘t thought of collateral problems that could occure. But tournaments sounds very nice to me, think there are some other guys that love the idea

[cerulean wraith]

1. tournaments sound nice but like we discussed earlier today here, you can't force an esport. It usually fails. A tournament would likely generate a loss for Crytek.

2. crypto in gaming is a pox. It wouldn't help with players, it would help create more bots and hackers. Not to mention, inch and a mile. Next thing you'll know, all of those hacking crytobros will be asking for Hunt NFTs. Don't event go there.

3. follow the post format and post separate suggestions seperately

@stuck sigil

[solar monolith]

Rather not have Crytek follow BHVR and welcome NFTs with open arms

[cerulean wraith]

If Crytek announces Hunt NFTs I am uninstalling

I love this game but I won't support that crypto bubble

proceeds to right click furiously

[wind stream]

I think you aren't alone with that sentiment

[solar monolith]

Yea, hopefully many would agree with you. That’s a sickness and sickness must be purged.

Dropped Blizzard after their thing, would drop Crytek like a lead weight if they do something like NFTs

[digital nacelle]

but my valuable pixels

[cerulean wraith]

PURGE THE HERETIC

EXTERMINATUS THEM, THE GOD-EMPEROR KNOWS HIS OWN

[calm hawk]

if it makes money then its gonna be norm at some point

[somber walrus]

Hunt NFTs and crypto would totally rank the vibe of hunt. It’s like the only FPS/Sorta Battle Royal community with an actually super friendly and welcoming environment and not a lot of rage.

[cerulean wraith]

I would rather stop playing games altogether if that happens

[somber walrus]

And those cryptobros would ruin it

[cerulean wraith]

But it won't because nfts are a stupid bubble and it will burst

And the more we right click the faster that will happen

[digital nacelle]

also you know

kind of a weird when your set in 1895 game has a crypto tournament

[calm hawk]

i dont think all games would have it , there are still those one in a 100000 indie games that dont even have dlcs

[cerulean wraith]

Right?

[digital nacelle]

very well hunters let’s trade crypto before anyone has heard of a computer

[calm hawk]

people making money dont care tho, its just an asset they can make more money from

it could be set in caveman era and noone would care

[cerulean wraith]

It shouldn't even be a AAA standard because it blows donkey kong's konkey d*ng

[solar monolith]

And indie devs are growing while the AAA publishers are really losing supporters

[digital nacelle]

I know, but of all games, this is a weird one to implement that for

[normal horizon]

I mean in the same regard it is kind of weird to play a game set in 1895 on your 2020 pc set up

[cerulean wraith]

FARCRY PRIMAL NFTS OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Typing that made me sick 🤮 🤮 🤮

[digital nacelle]

big difference that

[cerulean wraith]

Yep

[digital nacelle]

when it comes to ingame elements it’s mostly consistent with the time period and setting

for example, most of the skins have a grittier feel than other games instead of sporting super bright colors

[normal horizon]

not really sure what a crypto tournament has to do with in game elements

[somber walrus]

I mean I already hated Blizzard for bending over backwards and punishing people in the esports community for speaking out on certain topics, but then they totally lost me after all that

[digital nacelle]

it would be weird

[normal horizon]

but the crypto wouldnt be in game

[digital nacelle]

I presume it would be promoted ingame

assuming it’s “official” or whatever

[cerulean wraith]

I wouldn't care about a crypto tournament if it had 0 effect on the game. Anything more would make me delete the game.

Because if you add a way to earn crypto though gameplay you are doing nothing but inviting hackers trying to make money via ruining everyone else's experience

And making my escapism a job would just suck the fun out of it

[native lake]

CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY CRYPTO CAIN GIGA NFT HIDDEN SKIN

amiright lads

[normal horizon]

I dont know how a crypto tournament would work but it's detached from nft's, crypto currency and nft's arent the same thing as far as I understand it

it was just a weird thing to read what I commented on

[cerulean wraith]

They use the same infrastructure (blockchain), but one is money and the other is a useless PNG that anyone can right click

[normal horizon]

one is money the other is a token

not specifically a png jpg etc

[cerulean wraith]

Same shit

[upbeat geode]

no

[digital nacelle]

technically, an nft isn’t an image it’s a link to an image (basically a receipt). if the site where the image is hosted goes down for whatever reason you no longer have the nft

[stuck sigil]

Okay, i‘m noticing i didn‘t think far enough when thinking about implementing crypto. Many of ur arguments directly changed my mind: would be a stupid idea. But what do you all think of a tournament and how it should be organized? I‘m collecting some ideas here for a tournament and will post a new post in the suggestion ideas channel

[normal horizon]

there have been a few different tournaments in the past

[cerulean wraith]

It's a png when I right click it. I don't care what it is technically

[wind stream]

there is the bayou bowl, a community organized tournament that happens occasionally

[upbeat geode]

lol

[cerulean wraith]

It literally is

[normal horizon]

this isn't really the place to discuss this in depth

[cerulean wraith]

I agree

[upbeat geode]

no, it's not, the problem is that you don't care about technicalities.

[steady prism]

afaik NFT = ownership of certain digital art

[stuck sigil]

Really? Didn‘t hear anything about it and i‘m following hunt showdown for almost 2 years now, no more playing other games 😂

[steady prism]

so ofc you can download or printscreen that or whatever...

[native lake]

This concept is stupid - Copyright already exists when art is created

[steady prism]

but it has its own value

[native lake]

NFT is redundant

[cerulean wraith]

NFTbro spotted

[normal horizon]

they haven't been official, just community organized

[steady prism]

no NFT is a way to sell your art online

[upbeat geode]

I'm not into NFT Art but believe in NFT usability for other stuff

[stuck sigil]

Ahh that may be the reason

[digital nacelle]

you technically own it but storing data on the blockchain is really expensive, only $$$$$ nfts are actually yours. most are just hosted externally as images

[wind stream]

lets keep the NFT talk out of feeback discussion now please, you can take it to #off-topic

[digital nacelle]

fair enough

[native lake]

I am personally speaking as someone who has commissioned art and looked into copyright law. -- Sorry Ahorn!

[upbeat geode]

Anyway, when is the dev stream?

[steady prism]

im also not really interested in that shit but i dont see any issue with it

[cerulean wraith]

I mean yeah throw your money out the window on a stupid monkey png / stolen art if you want lol

[stuck sigil]

SORRY I DID DESTROY THE FEEDBACK CHANNEL WITH THIS FUCKING CRYPTO COMMENT, PLS STOP DISCUSSING, THIS ISN‘T THE RIGHT PLACE AND I DON‘T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SPAM

[wind stream]

😆

[cerulean wraith]

No worries.

[upbeat geode]

any date on next dev stream?

[digital nacelle]

soontm

[wind stream]

@stuck sigil https://www.bayoubowl.gg/

[upbeat geode]

soonNFT

[cerulean wraith]

furious noises

[upbeat geode]

🤣

[stuck sigil]

Appreciate it bro ❤️

[upbeat geode]

Let's discuss going back to pre-alpha looks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zqk_X9-he8

[vital drum]

That would do more harm than good most likely

At that point it was designed more just for atmosphere without much consideration to competitive elements

Shedding that and giving players visibility is probably one of the reasons why it has grown over time

[upbeat geode]

Atmosphere is a big element for Hunt: Showdown, as of competitiveness there are games like EFT which have wider audience probably for sticking to it's thing.

I remember having immersive and intense fights at night time on 2018, now the night still somewhat limits visibility but its dull/less appealing/atmospheric

[vital drum]

Well, the amount of players playing night raids and daytime raids is also incomparable in EFT, so even there people do prefer good visibility

By a long-long shot

[cerulean wraith]

It's only natural, really

That people prefer to see well.

Damn it, I am getting more and more seperate-night-contract-pilled every time we discuss this

[outer wedge]

How the fcking shit i'm running away from a flashbang and get full blind for 3s ? i'm running away with my eyes in the opposite direction

[cerulean wraith]

Yeah flashes are a bit bs

[outer wedge]

the people who downvote ideas , do you even play the game @wispy folio or you downvote just for the lols

[cerulean wraith]

It's because you miscategorized it

What youre suggesting isn't a nerf per se, more of a fix/rework

[outer wedge]

people are fcking trolls, so many good ideias on the suggestion with so many down votes, i'm starting to agree to the youtube change to dislikes

people are pieces of shit who downvote just for the lols

[unborn smelt]

Well the thing is we had flashes be diffrent in the past

they work the way they do becuase they war so bad back then

[cerulean wraith]

Huh.

[outer wedge]

I'm fcking running away from the flash, how the fck i get full blind for 3 or 4 s.. its bullshit

[cerulean wraith]

It's not ideal but I can see why this is

[outer wedge]

how is that fair or logical

[unborn smelt]

because they hit you anyway despite running.

[wispy folio]

What are you taking about? First off i've over 3.5k hours and secodly i plain disagree with your suggestion. Flashes work just fine imho. Its not my fault you rigidly hold an angle without moving. Thats literally the only way to die to a flash. Unless of course you let people run up to you in the open field. Which once again, your fault.

[unborn smelt]

you need to try and get smth to block Los of the flash to you

[cerulean wraith]

@wispy folio >becker shotgun

Patented in 1899, produced in the 1920s. Even more anacronistic than the Auto-5 and (arguably) the Avtomat. Pls no.

[wispy folio]

Well the Crown and the Auto are already in the game. both arguably better than the Becker would ever be. So...

[cerulean wraith]

Yeah, I can also suggest adding a 21st British straight pull AR-15 in .22. Just because it's outclassed by other weapons doesn't make adding something so anacronistic okay

[unborn smelt]

Honestly i don't think clinging that much to dates is good in general

[wispy folio]

It was patented before the 20th century are you really that desperate for a point?

[unborn smelt]

pattentet in 1899 means it could have been produced from that time on making it fit better than quite some other things in HUnt

and the concept of revolving shotguns is already well established in the time too

For example in the Colt 1855 Revolving rifles and shotguns

[cerulean wraith]

A prototype or two, yeah. Iirc, the Auto 5 was patented in 1898 IRL (although ingame its 1892 according to the markings on the model). Personally a Colt revolving shotgun would just fit way better

Same stats and everything, but fits way better with the setting and timeframe

Besides, the Becker heavily is associated with WW2 now thanks to dipshit ww2 games like Vanguard using it ad-nauseam

[unborn smelt]

which is not a good reason to keep it out of Hunt IMO

It may be a reason for personal disliking it tho

[cerulean wraith]

I'd really rather see a colt revolving shotgun instead. More American guns are always welcome given how many foreign designs exist already

[unborn smelt]

I mean okay that's an opinion one can have - but i really don't mind about the country of origin of guns. Hunt isn't a "cowboy" game per se and we have lore reasons why there are anachronistic and foreign guns in the bayou

[cerulean wraith]

Late stage paranormal cowboy simulator

[wispy folio]

I wouldnt mind the Colt the Becker tho looks steampunk as hell and it has a unique blow forward mechanism that moves the barrel forward with each shot which would look much cooler than the Colt which would look like the pax but in officer carbine form. Now imagine the Becker getting some bronze legendary skin like the Bingham Brash, damn that would be fire.

[cerulean wraith]

Yeah bronze is fire.

[wispy folio]

Thats bronze? Looks like Tan to me, maybe i should have said copper to better illustrate my point. Something like this:

But on this gun:

[cerulean wraith]

It's cerakote bronze

Yeah that would be pretty steampunk

[wispy folio]

yep

[unborn smelt]

Also while on the topic - with how many people say we need more/less weapons of "insert random country" we should just get more "alternate timeline" style weapons that can't be reduced to just that

base them loosely on guns/stuff of the time and think how the incident could have affected weapon manufacturing both "industrial" and improvised

[frosty garnet]

@queen jungle, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

-+```

[steady prism]

this is great... how about (just an idea, bear with me...) you guys make a separate weapon suggestions?

working the same way like #game-ideas but for new weapons only?

it would certainly made our life with @cerulean wraith easier

[crystal plume]

No more channels

[steady prism]

😦

[crystal plume]

Please

Anything but more channels

[normal horizon]

Channels, channels everywhere

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-woody-everywhere-toy-toystory-gif-10833476

[steady prism]

i mean thats understandable from mod viewpoint 😅

[digital nacelle]

just delete #feedback tbh it’s a cesspool

[cerulean wraith]

I think it would just make it worse because we'd have to check 2 channels

[steady prism]

i mean it is... but im glad that it exists

[calm hawk]

dude you do that and all the filth will end up in #hunt-general

do you really wanna read all that rage all the time there

[steady prism]

cuz rn there are 2 channels... one more or less serious = #game-ideas and one thats just a cesspit that i dont have to constantly check out 😄

[digital nacelle]

Imao fair enough

[steady prism]

exactly... it has a reason

it is the saltiest place i ve ever seen...

[digital nacelle]

ikr

[steady prism]

mainly bcs im not in any other official game discord server 🤔

[calm hawk]

the level of salt in feedback is not matched by many servers

[digital nacelle]

I’m not a fan of cain myself but people get so mad over him in there it’s unbelievable

[calm hawk]

im sure there are a few but this is mythical levels of salt

[steady prism]

you see it works like this... you have a game, you die, you get salty af, you smack a bit of your rage in #feedback

[cerulean wraith]

#feedback be like

CAIN BAD

ME NO LIKE

AM ANGY

[calm hawk]

its like therapy but free

[digital nacelle]

[steady prism]

🤣 👌

[digital nacelle]

“damn it that McLovin and his dual wield again! imma go complain in #feedback”

sincerely, my opponents

[steady prism]

bastard! using such a cheap trick to hit my face!

[digital nacelle]

[cerulean wraith]

"I knew you would outsmart me, so I outsmarted your outsmartness"

[steady prism]

how dare he! it should be prohibited to play weapons that kill people! how am i supposed to counterreact?

[digital nacelle]

so violent too

[steady prism]

and best shit... is that community cries about EVERY single weapon in game

[cerulean wraith]

Even the single shots (except sparks)?

[steady prism]

too much campers with long ammo!
shotguns too stronk can OHK on 15m!
fanning too spammy!
Dolch exists!
Dualies way too OP!
Crossbow too quiet!
Dynamite too explosive!

[cerulean wraith]

when was the last time you saw AVTO OP?

[steady prism]

tru actually

the only weapons i know that are not a source of massive outcries are nagant and sprngfeld

and thats only because people are constantly trying to get them buffed 🤣

and once they get buffed the shitstorm will start again...

life of a dev is not easy...

[cerulean wraith]

Nobody uses that automatic scheiße anymore even though it's pretty good

[steady prism]

i wouldnt say pretty good... i would say usable, maybe interesting

but definitely not worth the price

[cerulean wraith]

I've had pretty good results with it. High risk medium reward at best

[steady prism]

which is imo fine... it is an one of a kind weapon

ye true...

but it costs you both kidneys to run it

[cerulean wraith]

And you gotta use 2 uppercuts

[steady prism]

• that

[cerulean wraith]

laughs in 18 rounds of reserve ammo

[steady prism]

its the perfect... fuck it imma prestiging weapon tho 😉

which is more than fine by me

[cerulean wraith]

How it feels to Avto

[steady prism]

tru

btw... can we get this badboi even tho its a bit anachronic?
#game-ideas message

[cerulean wraith]

Still wish it had the old sights tho, or at least something similar. Maybe with a thicker front sight

[steady prism]

im drooling all over my lap rn

[cerulean wraith]

Okay then

1903 rifle is cool ye but

How about colt lightning instead

[steady prism]

oh the things i would do with this beauty 😏

colt lightning is cool as well

https://tenor.com/view/drool-drooling-hungry-starving-food-gif-12342155

but 3 slot bornheim

[cerulean wraith]

I'm gonna photoshop that

[steady prism]

i could finally run that badboi without having to resort to awkward 2x 2slot weapons

i would just take this badboi, smacked a silenced nagant to my side and unleashed hipfire hell :3

[cerulean wraith]

After I write up like 4 more night fix suggestions lmfao

[steady prism]

make it 5

[cerulean wraith]

Dunno what the 5th one would be

[digital nacelle]

watch it still have 5/11 lmfao

[cerulean wraith]

I have 15/18

[digital nacelle]

wym

oh nvm

avto

[cerulean wraith]

Avto+dual uppers

[digital nacelle]

why not empty the uppers and have 15/30

[cerulean wraith]

I could but it gives away my postion

Besides 15/18 is usually serviceable

[keen violet]

@sudden wing you can know where the guy was shot from
look at the direction his feet are pointing thats from where he was shot

[digital nacelle]

good

let them come

you have a mfing avto

[cerulean wraith]

But I don't want them to know that

"An enemy who doesn't know you have an Avto is not redy for your spam" -Sun Tzu

[digital nacelle]

sun tzu needs grammarly

[cerulean wraith]

Chinese is complicated, cut the man some slack

[steady prism]

Poor sun 🤣

[digital nacelle]

oh so you’re on first name terms with him now huh

[cerulean wraith]

Ya bet he is

He went through 125 pages looking for dipshit weapon suggestions

That's like

Worse than going to war in ancient china

Worse odds at making it out sane, that is

[steady prism]

i mean i cowrited that book of his yaknow 😏

we re like... sitting in ancient china pub...

and he went... damn killing people is fun... but i dunno... dont you think i got more to offer?

and i was like... i dunno... maybe you can write a book or something?

and he was like... ye but whats the book gonna be about? i know shit... the only thing i know about is killing people...

and i was like... well then write a book about killing people duh?

boom art of war

how about this? interesting enough?

@cerulean wraith come on... you gotta upvote shitposts..

[cerulean wraith]

Can't bring myself to do that

[cerulean wraith]

I remember this

Would prefer a bittner pistol tho

[steady prism]

ye thats cool as well

or this

[cerulean wraith]

Dat charging handle

[steady prism]

😄

safety first

[cerulean wraith]

This was during the time when Browning held a patient on bolt carrier mounted charging handles

I bet

[steady prism]

possible

@cerulean wraith day only > night only

they will have their crybaby bask in sunshine gamemode... while we will have the true Hunt experience 💪

[cerulean wraith]

until they go flat broke due to reduced rewards

[digital nacelle]

[craggy pike]

i'd let them have the same rewards, just quarantine snipers in there

that's a reward for the whole community

[cerulean wraith]

Meh snipers ain't that bad. It just sucks to have one on your team most of the time

[pseudo shadow]

@cerulean wraith I respect your commitment to trying to make the game better by providing ideas how to improve the day/night cycle. But i think 7 or 8 parts for a suggestion is a bit excessive. Youre clogging the channel and at this point, youre just voicing your opinion in the wrong channel.

But maybe thats just me ...

[cerulean wraith]

I needed that many posts to lay all the options on the table.

Parts 5 and 6 aren't really bona-fide night fixes, just something that could help

You need to keep suggestions sepeated for proper voting, and there's also a 2000 character limit

[oak iron]

@cerulean wraith you keep doing you man, maybe make a TLDR portion next time if its long(er) but I like all the idea's. anything is better then what we have rn as far as Day/Night go. keep up the big brain dude.

[cerulean wraith]

thx

[pseudo shadow]

Yeah that i agree with, not that its ruining the game or something, but anything is better then what we have now.

[crystal plume]

Anything such as separate contracts that will negatively impact SBMM's efficiency even further as well as extending matchmaking times further during off peak hours or essentially driving people away from playing at certain hours irl because of there being X times of day available ingame?

I'd love to have separate contracts and such, if we had let's say 3-5 times the playercount we have atm

But we don't currently so that would be a direct negative impact on the game

[crystal plume]

@prisma knoll There is no skill based matching for random teammates, it only use skill based matchmaking for when searching for a match

For the same reason as QP not having SBMM, not enough players in those modes

[atomic cipher]

preach

[wicked steppe]

(moved from feedback to feedback discussion) Everyone knows cain needs some changes to not be a ghillie in the mist, and if you dont agree youre the mosin spitzer cain who sits in bushes. But for every other rational human, do we think headsman falls in the same category or severity?

[vague patio]

no

[atomic cipher]

yep, pretty much. and not only in the bushes. inside the dark building or simply in the shadows not moving.

[vague patio]

if you disagree you are a pooopoo player who does have bad aim!

cain isnt that bad, and im sure if it wasnt for cain, nobody wouldve complained about the following skins

headsman and reptile

[wicked steppe]

can you see the headsman in this?

bc he sure is there

and tell me that isnt a problem

[atomic cipher]

HELLO white knight

[odd cosmos]

He can be seen, but at a "regular" distance I would never spot him (in the context of these images)

[vague patio]

🤨

[wicked steppe]

everyone can be seen when walking normally, i dont think cain and headsman are walking around in Crysis with their cloak engaged

but for a regular hunter or a skin like sheriff, youd be able to at least see some detail in dark spaces like that

[wicked steppe]

what? are you in this picture and dont like it?

[vague patio]

it was about the white knight thing, cause it cant followwhy that response came

[wicked steppe]

ah i see

my bad

[atomic cipher]

Really, you cant see why? Saying that cain skin is not bad is either an LOL (in this case - my bad), or a white knight defending whatever is wrong with the game

[vague patio]

isnt that bad

i didnt say not bad

themain problem of him is his silouette with the skulls

[atomic cipher]

what about his color?

[wicked steppe]

idk because headsman doesnt have that and we still get the above images

i think its just monochromatic skins that make them become completely obscured by shadows

devils advocate has a hood and that bushy silhouette breaker but he has bronze and brown coloration that make him visible

[atomic cipher]

monochromatic and dark/grey

if they were all white no one would complain

[wicked steppe]

yeah and i havent had any problems seeing advocate for that reason im pretty sire

i mean yeah but i dont think anyone wants that

[queen jungle]

let me guess headsman is p2w

[wicked steppe]

dark colors and earth tones are cool and make sense thematically, i just dont feel like passing a Rorschach test to tell if a hunter is there

no bc headsman was event

but unbalanced? yeah id say so

[queen jungle]

not really

[wicked steppe]

youre trolling

[queen jungle]

he’s not really unbalanced compared to a lot of tier 3s

his camo is quite situational

[wicked steppe]

hes practically the same, but with even less light color

any dark corner? thats a lot of situations

[queen jungle]

less light colour can be a bad thing

[wicked steppe]

if youre standing on the sun yeah

[queen jungle]

he’s a pretty uniform colour which is generally bad for camouflage

[wicked steppe]

in a dark bayou? not rly

[wicked steppe]

is that bad camo to you

[queen jungle]

headsman is situationally decent but he doesn’t really stick out from the pack as far as him and tier 3s and boys like bone doctor are concerned

[wicked steppe]

are you actually blind? we're looking at the same picture right?

[queen jungle]

again all camo is fairly situational

a single 240p screenshot proves nothing really

I can post plenty of screenshots where he sticks out like a sore thumb

[wicked steppe]

thats zoomed in and you still cant see him

wanna see the original vid?

[queen jungle]

learn what situational means genius

[wicked steppe]

you can put it at 4k all you like

[queen jungle]

there’s situations where he’s bad and situations where he’s good

same as a lot of tier 3s

[wicked steppe]

in dark ass game, any situation can be beneficial to him, smartass

[queen jungle]

no

just no lol

[atomic cipher]

What tier 3 skins do you mean? "again all camo is fairly situational" - it so happens that these situations are way more common than you make them seem to be

[wicked steppe]

even desalle during day has plenty of inky shadows to slither into

[queen jungle]

there’s literal ghille suit tier 3 skins

[wicked steppe]

even they can have white shirts or skin showing

[queen jungle]

In reality 9 times out of 10 the camo actually makes zero difference and it’s really a skill issue

[wicked steppe]

headsman is the smoke monster from lost

[queen jungle]

nope

there’s ones that are totally camo

[wicked steppe]

no skin showing? at all? might wanna check that

[queen jungle]

headsman has skin showing

[wicked steppe]

and lets say that there was a tier 3 that was in a full modern ghillie. you may not roll that hunter for a few rounds. you can get headsman every game

[wicked steppe]

what, his nosebridge?

[queen jungle]

his eye holes

[spice topaz]

And how often can you recruit the ghillie ones? How often do you see them? (pun intended)

[queen jungle]

if you get one in your quickplay lineup you can recruit them infinitely if you don’t reroll

for free!

[cerulean wraith]

You mean this dude/dudette?

[wicked steppe]

so 1% of his surface?

[queen jungle]

old mate on the left here also only has 1% of his surface exposed

[wicked steppe]

even those tier 3s have color differences and belt buckles and stuff showing

[cerulean wraith]

Best tier 3 by far

[queen jungle]

you’re not going to see those when old mate is crouching behind a rock like with that screenshot you posted

[wicked steppe]

headsman is black leather, head to toe, practically no interuptions

[queen jungle]

you’re still not going to notice him in the half second until he shoots you in the head

[queen jungle]

you realise being 1 solid colour is bad for camouflage right

[wicked steppe]

youd at least have a chance to see their arms or hands

[queen jungle]

nope

the face is the most important part of camo

[wicked steppe]

have you not seen the picture i posted bro

[queen jungle]

that picture you posted is irrelevant

[wicked steppe]

and thats "bad camo"

[queen jungle]

if it was the same guy you would have died the same way

[wicked steppe]

my fuckin ass

[queen jungle]

yeah man your one image totally counters the decades of research and R&D that has been put into camo

better go tell every army on earth they got it wrong

[atomic cipher]

lol there's no skill in blending with 90% of surrounding

[wicked steppe]

maybe i wouldve, maybe i wouldnt have, but i know that he is straight invisible

[queen jungle]

he doesn’t though

[wicked steppe]

oh so irl research and physics apply to this arcade shooter?

[cerulean wraith]

Fringe situation, moving on

[queen jungle]

visuals apply to a game with visuals, yep

[wicked steppe]

fringe? this is every 5 star+ game

[cerulean wraith]

Hmm yes, the floor here is made of floor

[cerulean wraith]

Wasn't that Cain just a day ago?

[queen jungle]

you might just need to get your eyesight checked man

maybe you need glasses

[cerulean wraith]

Like where are all these P2W skins I keep hearing about. Nobody uses them in 3-4* mmr (EUR).

[wicked steppe]

look i know im not proposing an alternative but you have to recognize the problem yeah? and so what, if it gets brought up frequently, its probably a real issue

[queen jungle]

that’s a fallacy

[wicked steppe]

is the invisible headsman in that picture a fallacy?

no

[queen jungle]

yes actually

cherry-picking

[wicked steppe]

youre joking

[cerulean wraith]

I could say that the Winfield 1873C is stronger than the Mosin every day. Doesn't necessarily make it true.

[queen jungle]

I can pick plenty of examples where headsman sticks out like a sore thumb

[wicked steppe]

yall are actually nuts

so you all agree that headsman is balanced where he stands?

[queen jungle]

ad homenim

[wicked steppe]

just to make sure i know where yall stand

[queen jungle]

yeah I think he’s fine

[wicked steppe]

stop quoting your english textbook and thinking yourself a lawyer

[queen jungle]

the only debatable one is Cain and even then people exaggerate

[atomic cipher]

lmao

[cerulean wraith]

Cain's head is sometimes hard to pick out because of the skulls on the backpack. That's it imo

[atomic cipher]

dualies are also super balanced @queen jungle

[queen jungle]

dualies are fine yeah

[cerulean wraith]

They are. Shut

[queen jungle]

if you can’t deal with dualies it’s a skill issue

[wicked steppe]

and the monochromatic color scheme gives no benefit either?

[atomic cipher]

yes yes. Shut

[queen jungle]

nope, solid colours don’t benefit camo much

[cerulean wraith]

The only issue with duallies is that they fire a bit faster than 2x the RoF of a single pistol, that's it

[cerulean wraith]

There is a reason why no major military uses monochromatic camo anymore

[wicked steppe]

i think the issue is that you guys wanna play cabelas big game hunter, sit in your bushes and hit 200m shots to post on reddit

[queen jungle]

nope

[cerulean wraith]

Headsman is more ash colored. That stands out against wood and grass

[wicked steppe]

so grab your spizter and dawn your ghillie suits, fine by me

[cerulean wraith]

Honestly the T3 ghillieman is better

[wicked steppe]

not if its in shadows, which is half the stuff in this game

[queen jungle]

my most used weapon is nagant carbine and cav saber so try again buddy

[queen jungle]

blatantly false

[cerulean wraith]

Need a protractor to measure that tilt?

[wicked steppe]

you sound rly cool rn

[vague patio]

dont you mean, nagant mosin sniper

[cerulean wraith]

Turn your brightness up and dim the light bro

[wicked steppe]

the issue hurts your playstyle so you dogpile on strawman arguements

[atomic cipher]

accuracy?

[cerulean wraith]

Moist nugget blyat

[cerulean wraith]

Accuracy is shit, therefore it's fine

[vague patio]

accuracy by volume

[cerulean wraith]

Still shit

Just ask fanning if you hold it down

[wicked steppe]

look all i want is firefights where i lose bc the other person was better than me, not bc they found the darkest bush or corner to sit in

[cerulean wraith]

Then what was the original complaint about?

[wicked steppe]

different recoils but thats not my argument rn

[vague patio]

positioning was always a part of hunt

[queen jungle]

i think that's already happening, but you're blaming the game instead of yourself

[wicked steppe]

that that are dark as fuck. and blend into those dark spaces better than most or all other skins

thats been my argument the whole time

[queen jungle]

your argument is copium

[wicked steppe]

im waiting for one of you to flex your kd or rank and think that makes the argument in your favor

[cerulean wraith]

I think he's got a point at night / basements. I could see that skin blending quite well there

But in like 80% of situations there are better skins

[vague patio]

it doesnt tho

why none does that

[wicked steppe]

yes. precisely that

im not saying theyre always invisible

[cerulean wraith]

Then what's the issue

[wicked steppe]

but when its dark, they are less visible than others by a longshot

[cerulean wraith]

I see, ok

[wicked steppe]

what did you think i was saying before?

[cerulean wraith]

Didn't catch that

[atomic cipher]

lol 1st shot especially. nice trolling

[cerulean wraith]

Your screenshot was day time.

[devout axle]

The game has a lot of times where being dark just makes it hard to see in general

[cerulean wraith]

Have you ever used rifle ADS? How is duallie ADS good?

[vague patio]

darknessmakeit harder to see in general, thats how eyes work

[wicked steppe]

does that not support my argument rather than detract from it?

[cerulean wraith]

It's night, that's the point.

[devout axle]

The main thing that annoys me is the the lighting transition in windows

Well yeah I know I’m fine with night I’m just talking about the crappy lighting in certain situations

[wicked steppe]

if hes that hard to see during the day, he is often actually imperceptible during the night or in otherwise dark areas

[atomic cipher]

check some of the Huuge videos

[queen jungle]

huuge you mean captain clickbait

[devout axle]

Like night is going to be dark lol and you can always leave if you don’t want to play in it so Ive never cared much

[queen jungle]

zzzz

[vague patio]

[cerulean wraith]

Link to exact video

[vague patio]

can we unpatch huuge

[vague patio]

pay to win series, he got

[queen jungle]

dualies are pay to win?

[cerulean wraith]

They are not lmao

What the shit

[vague patio]

no, lol

it was about the skins

[queen jungle]

he asked about dualie ads

[vague patio]

dualies is, something different?

[cerulean wraith]

Oh he has 2 bideos about the reptilian, Cain and headboi

[vague patio]

bideo binted

👽

[queen jungle]

he doesn't even compare them to t3s in that video
pure clickbaito

[cerulean wraith]

Let's be honest here, those skins are good, they just aren't better than a lot of T3s. Maybe that's where the "pay to win" angle comes from, you can always have one of them but you can't always have a good T3

[vague patio]

and the most fatal bug of all, the one where you bit higher or something

[wicked steppe]

t3s are good but i see them so rarely and the other so often that i hardly consider them

[vague patio]

cause they random

[wicked steppe]

^

meanwhile you can run headsman every game

and cain but im mainly arguing headsman here

[vague patio]

but on basis of quickplay u usually only see t3 hunters

[wicked steppe]

thats true too, i hardly play it tho

[cerulean wraith]

That's not an issue with the skin necessarily them, but with the legendary system I general

[wicked steppe]

i mean i guess? but if its only two skins, i dont think the rest of them need to be reworked

and if theyre not the issue, why did crytek change cain in the first place?

[cerulean wraith]

Because pre nerf Cain was actually a problem

Legit p2w

[wicked steppe]

cain aside, im talking about headsman rn

[cerulean wraith]

Those white lines help a lot

[wicked steppe]

who you couldnt even buy

but is still op in my opinion

but ive said my peace on it

[cerulean wraith]

I mean none of this is pay to win you can buy all of it with BBs that the game is pretty generous with?

[wicked steppe]

ive spammed enough already lol

yeah im not big on the p2w argument, unbalanced yes but you can still headshot any skin

as long as they arent totally obscured by shadow

[cerulean wraith]

Slap some white lines on him and call it a day lol

Make him wear adidas

[atomic cipher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjMAUfXSo9Q&t=0s

[wicked steppe]

id love some gopnik cain haha

[cerulean wraith]

I know about this

I literally said so earlier

It's a bit bs but has minimal effect imo because you'll just straight up miss if you fire that fast outside fanning range anyway

[spice topaz]

What I have been getting for a while is out with the old and in with the new. Player counts are on the rise and there seems to be vocal people supporting any aspect of the game. So Crytek can be happy. In any case Hunt supports many playstyles and it is not for one to say how others should play. I can live with that. If only they would do something performance and server wise. I've had my fun with Hunt and can or should even move on.

[cerulean wraith]

Yeah those are issues

That we should be talking about

Not stoobid shit like duallies and cain

[wicked steppe]

yeah but what else is there to discuss besides that they exist? we know they do but not all of us are software engineers who could weigh in on how to fix it

unless yall are lol

[cerulean wraith]

Stability and performance first, other shit can come later

[cerulean wraith]

Talk about it a lot

Get attention

[spice topaz]

It is not like server issues aren't getting attention from the players.

[wicked steppe]

so basically

crytek pls

[atomic cipher]

White knights everywhere

[cerulean wraith]

Salty 1-2* everywhere

I don't disagree with you on the dual wield thing, it's bs and shouldn't be that way

But it's not a problem at all

Because if you shoot that fast outside of fanning range, you'll miss anyway

[atomic cipher]

1. pathetic rate of player base for this time period. 2) where is this vocal group of ppl?

[spice topaz]

You will still hit enough of shots

[cerulean wraith]

Not in my experience

(3-4* mmr EUR)

[spice topaz]

1. way better than when I started 2) have you followed the conversation on this channel?

[cerulean wraith]

1. true and 2) probably not

We have debated all of this already and I'm kinda sick of it

So miss me with that schieße

[atomic cipher]

1. doesn't make it less bad 2) this channel in particular is packed with ppl pointing out the same issues Anyways, I'm back in the bayou rocking cain and spamming ppl with bullets! Cheers

[cerulean wraith]

Have fun losing to a bad play on your end and blaming everyone and everything except yourself lol

[atomic cipher]

have fun white knighting lol

[spice topaz]

1. makes it better than when the game was more like I liked it (so my opinions about the skins and dualies probably aren't the most lucrative) 2) and all those issues are labeled non issues

[solar monolith]

@atomic cipher I’m not sure you know what white knighting is.

[queen jungle]

Hunt is a niche sort of game ofc it’s not going to have fortnite level playerbase

[wicked steppe]

1. 2, 2) 3. And your mama

[cerulean wraith]

I don't think he knows either

[frosty garnet]

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Let us see are exact mmr I was slapping some people while I was a 5 and had no idea if I was going to go up anywhere.```

[cloud sparrow]

@prisma knoll welcome to forced skill based matchmaking with a small player base and an impossible way to calculate skill in a game mode that heavily favors being passive.

[bronze quail]

Kills.and deaths mean something, but on a game where people actually play and fight, not on a game where people like to sit in a bush waiting for someone to stand still in front of them

On the past 2 weeks i had probably some of the worst matches that i ever had in 2000h hours

And is getting worse and worse every day more.
Looks like people dont really want to play. They like to wait for 30 minutes only to jerk off over a headshot.

[frosty garnet]

@strange ruin, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
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Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

I'm mad about this again so I'm adding a little addendum for our HMMMM? Brother and sister out there. 
A weekly that is neigh impossible unless you're a professional streamer (in which case the reward becomes completely worthless in comparison), vs a weekly that anyone could farm in a single match if they were determined enough. 

Come on now. I get making the """""""challenge""""""" and the ""reward"" variable in scope. A little bit of randomness goes a long way. But did they lock the intern in the closet and force them to write out a hundred of these before they were allowed to leave? 

You can do better crytek, and it wouldn't even take all that much effort. 
Yet for some reason you don't? 
Shame. 
Shame on you. 

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[strange ruin]

Swear to god you could reply as to old posts if you had differnt ideas.
I won't post it again.
But I will repeat

SHAME

[digital nacelle]

you just have to format it lol

title: adding on to x
description: xx

[strange ruin]

I am aware, and I refuse.

[digital nacelle]

why? it’s such a minor detail

[strange ruin]

I will not have a robot dictate to me how I am to rant.
The title and description were in the original post I was replying to, as per their rules.

[digital nacelle]

alr man you do you

it’s not a channel for ranting anyway

[native lodge]

alright its gone I guess

[digital nacelle]

@coarse geyser I don’t think springfield compact deadeye is the “most used” springfield compact variant. most people do not equip the scoped sawnoff rifles as their high amounts of sway are exacerbated by the magnification of a scope

[strange ruin]

the rant contained a suggestion.
a suggestion that crytek do better.

But i've now spent more time thinking about this than they have, so I'm out.

[digital nacelle]

it wasn’t very constructively put

if you just insult people they won’t listen to you

[coarse geyser]

ive only really seen people use the deadeye, and tbh the compact could use better sway since its a Springfield and isnt that great in the first place

[digital nacelle]

well, it has to have downsides as a sawnoff rifle

[coarse geyser]

but i understand what ur saying

[coarse geyser]

right i just think they could be reduced a bit, but still there

[digital nacelle]

I do agree variants w/o skins should be prioritized

instead of a sixth uppercut lmfao

[coarse geyser]

or 8th mosin

[digital nacelle]

there’s 5 mosins I thought

[coarse geyser]

i think ive ounted 7 but i could be wrong

[digital nacelle]

-centenary
-escheton
-bone veve
-wormwood
-bear’s tooth

did I miss any?

[coarse geyser]

dunno im mid game

[digital nacelle]

fair

[spare roost]

Pretty sure levering does get affected @visual dirge

[visual dirge]

oh well that is actually nice, levering really isnt that big of a concern of mine

[frosty garnet]

@astral wraith, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
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Hey there hunt guys, I was wondering if we could get some type of feature in the store menu where we have a limited time after making a purchase where we can sell it back for full price? I was buying a tool earlier I don't remember which one it was, and my mouse unfortunately is a bit broken and sometimes I left click once but the mouse ends up clicking two or three times, and I bought the tool twice on accident. It was ok because it was a tool I probably commonly use and haven't a second one is not bad, but I started thinking what if I had accidentally just bought two mosin nagant snipers or one of the higher end items? I think 10-15 seconds after making a purchase being able to sell it for full price would be nice, or something similiar if you guys come up with something better. (I put this in 'feedback' but I realized it was supposed to go in here)```

[cerulean wraith]

every post must contain a title and description. The automod exists because too many people posted without reading the rules.

[strange ruin]

I refuse to accept your reality

[cerulean wraith]

It ain't my reality

It's our reality soviet anthem plays

[vague patio]

The robots won

Matrix 1984

Anyway

[vague patio]

Should be all, uppercut and base mosin have around 5

Think the only ones competing might be healthkit and knife

[cerulean wraith]

Plenty of health kits about

[vague patio]

But yea, wish some ideas wouldve been aplied to non slin weapons

[cerulean wraith]

Winne and lebel aperture skin pls

[vital drum]

Resistance is futile, humans.

[crystal plume]

🤖

[marsh garden]

Yea, what they said.

[cerulean wraith]

Good bot

[frosty garnet]

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[cerulean wraith]

@sudden forum >colt lightning

This has been suggested numerous times before. Reposts that add nothing new to an idea are generally discouraged because they make the ideas page harder to read and cause repeats of discussions. Please use the search function to check if your idea has been posted in #game-ideas before.

[sudden forum]

Sorry, i thought it would be the case

[cerulean wraith]

Np

[sudden forum]

Yo it has been mentioned a million times, also thanks for teaching me discord has a search function lol

[cerulean wraith]

Yeah no worries

You learn something new every day

[cerulean wraith]

If you want to just check a specific channel, use the "in:" function. For example: "in:suggestions-ideas colt lightning" (without "")

[steady prism]

https://tenor.com/view/boston-dynamics-spot-jumprope-robot-gif-20198938

[solar monolith]

Is this Detroit: Become Human?

[steady prism]

No thats Hunt: Become Bot

[sick anvil]

1.7.2 dev stream prepare your pitchforks

[vague patio]

we have aperture winfield skin

[olive goblet]

Crytek should honestly remove the leaderboards, no point since majority of them are hackers, and the rest are KD farmers. KDA leaderboards don’t even belong in an objective based game like Hunt.

All it does is give incentives to KD farmers to ruin games and change the gameplay dynamic from fighting for the bounty into farming kills and extracting.

[plush ledge]

I mean almost nobody cares about bounty anyway, most people go just for the kills and I doubt that would change without the lb

[cerulean wraith]

Oh.

[cerulean wraith]

I'd argue that most players at 3-4*mmr care about the bounty

[olive goblet]

Even 5-6 stars care about the bounty; they should incentivize the bounty more then tbh, or even give an incentive for having held the bounty

[cerulean wraith]

Or slightly reduce the kill bonus

Game gives a lot of muneh already

[plush ledge]

When I've the choice to go for a fight or the bounty I take the fight any day unless it's pitching.

[cerulean wraith]

Would you like to explain why? I always go for the bounty myself

[plush ledge]

I play the game for pvp and not pve, most of the time the big bounty is where the fight is aka you get it anyway but I'm also not sad when I get to fight 2 teams while the last team runs off with the bounty. Most people have no clue how to spend their money and the only purpose bounty has is to give you money or make sure people find each other for pvp

[lethal oyster]

Just checking the server again after a while of absence... Guess what I see:

• Cain OP 😭
• Dual wield OP 😭
  God this is getting stale.

[rocky orchid]

the issue with what @queen jungle is pointing out...

hunt was a PvEvP game in its early access and first year states...
hunt nowadays has morphed into a PvPvE game..

Not everyone likes it.. I am into more PvE too.. but i dont run away from good PVP fights.. But with all this Dual wield bullshit lately and other very annoying stuff pvp is not fun any more except you have long range fights which takes more than 5 secs of fight

[solar monolith]

Gauntlet or death.

[plush ledge]

With pve only I would've stopped playing 2800h ago, for me pve is just annoying at best when you got dogs mid fight or something like this. Thr ai in hunt is such a push over I can't imagine playing a few k hours just killing it

[digital nacelle]

^

[solar monolith]

That’s why you fight the whole lobby and take both (if applicable) and leave.

[rocky orchid]

yeah i agree.. but if they would change the worth of the bounty ... i mean.. would make it WORTH to extract with it, more than anything else.. this would also boost the PVP, because anyone would run to the bounty, because of that.. at the moment fighting the bounty isnt really worth at all..

[sick anvil]

Also how is a solo supposed to run a gauntlet ?

[solar monolith]

That’s what if applicable means?

[sick anvil]

even if a solo has to extract with both bounties they can carry it will just kill solo plays completely because there is no reward running solo in to a team of 2 or 3 when both teams have a bounty , on top of that in Trios absolutely impossible to win at that point

Also forcing teams to go for the 2nd bounty makes plenty of situations where the team camped in a boss lair has very little restrictive entrances all they need is to sit there example church in Blanchet , Stanley , Kingsnake , Pelican

[solar monolith]

You can absolutely fight a team of 3 alone. Gotta be careful about it but you can. Most people get cocky if they realize it’s one guy and play stupid. Besides, I was merely saying I go for everything or nothing.

[sick anvil]

Yes it is possible to fight a trio as solo not if they have the bounty you are not 150 meters out and you do not carry a token

[solar monolith]

Dig them out. It’s not hard to siege a compound. Often I find violence of action shocks people. Fast and loud.

[sick anvil]

3 players 12 constantina bombs at the enetrances people camping with shotguns at the entry point how you do fast and loud ?

[solar monolith]

Lol then they aren’t leaving either

[sick anvil]

So one hour passes and no one got nothing out of it just wasted every ones time

[plush ledge]

Does it make a difference if the bounty is worth 20k or 1k when you sit already on a few hundred k in the bank? The only way I could imagine would be something like you can only leave the map with bounty like it is in qp. Only the bounty team survives but that would bring a whole lot of other problems to the table

[sick anvil]

It solves one problem creates 99 different ones

[rocky orchid]

well.. maybe it could be something like... bounty gives a small amount of BBs? or extraction only be visible with bounty.. otherwise you have to "find" the extractions

[sick anvil]

Also it favors playstyle that favors being at and advantaged position with a specific loadout , knowing that if i want to leave i have to have all bounty my team can carry , i will not be running out in the open but will be in a concrete box with as little as possible entry points ideally not combatable at any other range than close and then my loadout shotguns or DW

[plush ledge]

Or you wait 55 minutes for them to come out before the timer runs out and gun them down in the open, sounds like fun gameplay

[late wind]

They didn't win if nobody wins.

[sick anvil]

And what is the point of having a situation where no one leaves because of that is an option

[late wind]

Fuck 'em. That's the point.

[sick anvil]

i rather run a bounty and a fight in 20 minutes than being forced play out 1 hour matches of boring shit

[solar monolith]

I’ll waste someone’s time. My hunter costs like $250. I didn’t lose anything worth it.

Then you do that. I’ll keep going for an hour.

[late wind]

I'm willing to wait one minute longer than you. I want the bounty above all else. It's kind of the whole point of the game.

[solar monolith]

And if they want the bounty too or leave at that point, they have to come out

[late wind]

A lot of people seem to forget that fortifying a compound works both ways. Harder to get in sure. But also harder to get out.

[sick anvil]

The whole idea promotes only camping nothing else and twisted brain where they do not find it boring as shit to sit for 60 minutes because if i do not win no one else does

[late wind]

Well then you shouldn't have thrown concertina everywhere and locked yourself in.

[solar monolith]

God forbid someone have a different play style than you

[late wind]

^

[sick anvil]

Well but you are literally forcing your playstyle on others , you want to sit blockaded in for 60 minutes go for it others are free to leave

[late wind]

Lmao no you aren't. They locked themselves in. If anything they're the ones forcing it. They could have run and fight. But they chose to camp.

[sick anvil]

I am saying forcing only team having all bounties can leave promotes playing it safe

[solar monolith]

Yea, they can run out and challenge you to leave. Nor did I say you have to have all bounties to leave. That’s my preference.

[late wind]

Then don't get all the bounties. You can leave with one.

[sick anvil]

Gauntlet

[late wind]

Or none, even.

[solar monolith]

I prefer to take everything if I can and I’ll take the whole game time to get it. If that includes forcing someone into a building because they won’t leave, oh well

[sick anvil]

and its completely fine , i am saying being only able to extract if you run the gauntlet is a bad idea

[late wind]

I don't think anyone is advocating for that currently.

[sick anvil]

here

[solar monolith]

Wrong.

I was stating what I do

My OPINION

[late wind]

LORD

[sick anvil]

and here #game-ideas message

[late wind]

So because one heavily downvoted suggestion exists then it's obviously a huge problem.

And you know what? That actually sounds fun as hell.

[solar monolith]

I’d you view the thumbs down on that, you will find my name

Just because it’s how I play doesn’t mean I’m going to force others to do it.

[late wind]

Which is why it was suggested as a mode that you have to knowingly opt in to.

[mossy junco]

red skull revive, should take the one who revives a real health bar. like the mate transfers his healthbar to his red skulled mate. so it ends that the bounty team is only reviving the hole time and unlimited. and than you should become a kill if you kill the revived guy

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red skull revive, should take the one who revives a real health bar. like the mate transfers his healthbar to his red skulled mate. so it ends that the bounty team is only reviving the hole time and unlimited. and than you should become a kill if you kill the revived guy```

[digital nacelle]

I agree it should count as a kill for redskull revived players but many people will just leave their teammates behind if they have to spend trait points on reviving them

[craggy pike]

could always do away with that thing for buying back health bars and just give them back if you escape

[digital nacelle]

I like this idea

[vague patio]

@digital nacelle i guess itsmostly semantics, but those weapons wouldnt/shouldnt be mace variants. morelike hammer or swing variants, macewould be on sawn offs. Similar how striker and talons are separated

[digital nacelle]

hey maybe you could put a bigger mace on the back of the stock

[vague patio]

winfield centannialhammer would be really nice

[digital nacelle]

yeah, especially since it’s gotten so little love in terms of variants so far

[vague patio]

i really hope we get as blunt damage update

a shame that in my whole playtime of hunt there has been axe, but no hammer

[cerulean wraith]

Need a hammer and sickle here

Gonna start a commune in the Bayou

We farming meathead trait tokens boys, who wants to join the revolution?

[vague patio]

we already have a sickle

but yea, that wouldve been my first idea as a meme loadout

throwing hammer/clubs would also be cool

[cerulean wraith]

Oh right, as a heavy knife skin

[cerulean wraith]

Bertheir Sledgehammer when pls

[odd cosmos]

The Bonk-Baguette 🙏

[ruby magnet]

[lethal oyster]

@queen jungle a free way to earn blood bonds? Are you out of your mind? We at crytek want money god damnit!

[unborn smelt]

I mean yes ofc they want money - would you be fine with working your job for free ?

[lethal oyster]

Yes because I'm a better person